/evog/ - Evolve General

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>tfw I've wasted 400 hours of my life on a game that will die before I feel like I'm done playing it for good
>tfw already wasted over 1131 hours on a game that died before it got a full release

y do id godda b lyk dis

>>152656023
Let us enjoy it while we can.
Want to play together?

>>152656023
They're only hours wasted if you didn't enjoy them, anon.

ded

>>152660134
>XP weekend starts
>Everyone gets their characters to high levels
>XP weekend over
>No reason to play now
>Game worse off than before

>>152660206
>playing monster is too easy to have any fun
>playing hunter solo is pure hell because pubs have literal brain damage
It's impossible to have fun with this game.

>>152660413
Not if we make an /evog/ premade.

>>152660413
>tfw too autistic to try and form premades
>others seem just as autistic

>>152660206
>>XP weekend over
>>No reason to play now
>needing numbers to tell you you have fun
sure is a disgusting time we live in

>>152660593
>>152660695
I would gladly make a premade as long as basic things are in check:
1.)Either the person is already good or wants to get good. Nobody wants to have a faggot on the team that puts in minimal effort to distinguish him from a bot and have fun at the teams expense.
2.)Minimal autism during an actual match.

200 players is a bunch!

>>152663203
Good thing both of those checked out the last times I played with the gen, but good luck playing more than once or twice.

>>152666882
>but good luck playing more than once or twice.
Why?

>>152667946
Because the chat is ded.

>>152674767
People should idle the chat more. Let others know if they want to play.

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>evolve will die its second death before the devs even monetize the F2P

What a disaster

Anyone know how far Rogue Val's healing field extends? Is it literally just that tiny green circle I can see around her when i'm playing?

Anywhere where we can meet up and play together?

Why did they stop giving early patch notes?

>>152677623
What went wrong? Where are all the third worlders playing a free and subjectively fun game with no microtransactions?

>>152678546
Steam group chat.

>>152682302
They tried, then their computers exploded.

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Sup nerds, I see a lot of people here crying about monsters being op, I don't understand how you shitters lose with hunters.
I premade with my team and have over 400 win streak by stomping monsters

so like, what's happening
http://www.evolveupdates.com/deepestdark/

>>152684342
Guess we now know how laz has the highest win rate.

Does anyone else play Parnell just to hear all his really chill dropship conversations?

Whats the ETA on the next update? I just want to see party pants Parnell.

>>152686329
I play him for oldschool shooter feel

>>152656023
It happened to me with Bloodline Champions.
Don't regret them, enjoy it while you can

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>>152684342
It's disgusting playing Lazarus, every retarded pubbie thinks they're being so helpful picking Bucket, in actuality they're just going to be entirely fucking useless the entire match.

Bucket is pretty much the only reason your ever going to lose as Laz.

>>152691247
>>152684342
It's a coop winstreak retards

>>152691247
>typical bucket on team
>match starts
>trapper pings
>almost instantly the bucket player presses 3

they have no clue

http://www.evolveupdates.com/deepestdark/ WE DON'T GET PALADIN PARNELL UNLESS WE ALL WIN ENOUGH CO OP GAMES

>>152691518
The fact Bucket isn't a 8000 keys character is so fucking absurd.

>>152691635
>100k co-op games
>1 co-op game counts as 4 wins
It'll be fine
I just hope that gorgon queen is actually a surprise variant

>>152692289
They said there'd be a coop only variant map. This has to be it, The Gorgon queen is probably a stronger and slightly bigger (maybe) version of the normal Gorgon and AI only.

>>152691635
Sure, right after a weekend of coop grind
Amazing

rip paladin
you died even before your birth

>>152693037
>stage 1 Nest repurposed with a stronger monster spawning stage 1 Gorgons
I can dig it
Too bad its probably nothing like that though

>+25 account levels
Why? For what? Nobody even can't see your level right now, and don't give a fuck about it.

>>152694151
I hope they at least add some fucking badges, if nothing else then for color unlocks. The current badge color unlock system is ASS.

>>152691518
Why is this bad?

>>152695334
Because its doing nothing
Bucket has to wait for the satellite tracking to end before he's actually refreshing it

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I feel bad for the monster.

>>152695876
why is slim's map up inside a dome?

>>152695876
>focusing the assault

>>152695876
I've played against monsters worse than this. But only a couple.

>>152695876
>monstershitter will proceed to call slim and sunny too toxic and OP on the forums

Patch notes where
If you're gonna push the patch back I want to know exactly what's in it
I just want that paladin parnell

>>152699621
you won't get him in the next patch, he's being held hostage for coop wins

>>152699832
Hopefully he'll never come out that way.

>>152700184
He'll probably end up unlocked in one day

>>152699832
>you won't get him in the next patch, he's being held hostage for coop wins
He'll be released either way, but if you participate in the challenge, you get him for free.

Right now there's fucking nothing that makes it worth it to be a founder. Just a few shit badges.

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what

>>152704441
That's for your 60$ pre-order!

>>152704573
Looks like a MEC trooper from XCOM: EW

>>152704665
>tfw the page doesn't load on chrome

>>152704649
nah I bought mine for a much lower price when stage 2 came out

still feeling ripped off

Are we playing together?

Someone wanted to

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uhh this is what i see when i go on the update page

>page 10
this game is so dead.....

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dedity ded

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Alright /evog/, I experimented with perks over the weekend thanks to the extra keys, here's what's new.

>Gave Slim Leadership/Command
>Torvald now rocks Reload perks to try and salvage what we can from him
>Lazarus and EMET have Bionic legs, the jump height was interesting to use, up to personal preference I guess
>Added Renegabe pic, the Evolve wiki needs to fucking post an actual thumbnail pick already
>Added a disclaimer at the bottom for the anons complaining about "muh rocket perks"

As you may notice, the Monster perks are a bit fucked at the moment. What are some solid builds from our Monster players?

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weird bug

>>152710094
yeah had that happen to me exactly once so far

>>152704573
oh god why

>>152704573
wow he's really packin

is he a support or medic though? we already got a medic variant but not a support variant, "paladin" could be either

>>152704573
>+25 account levels
more grinding, yay

>>152712491
yes, friend

life given purpose once more

I wonder if they will adjust exp gain to tolerable levels so the last 5 levels won't be absolute torture of 100 matches needed for just one level.

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>>152712118
The Trello updated.
"Unannounced Medic" moved from ready to next update and changed to "Paladin Parnell". It's definitely a medic. Don't know where him being a support came from.

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>>152714217
>new medic

>>152714217
>get two fucking medic variants
>now there's 8 of them
>still only have 6 supports

who will be the support variant next month?

>>152714217
Misreading on my part. It's still under ready, not next update.

>>152714510
Why not Lazarus? He'd be the equal of any support.

>>152714672
it has to be either crow, lennox, jack or laz

>try Kala in solo queue
>she is SUPER fun to play
>but she sucks in any comp

life is suffering

>>152715283
her shields are really shit

I wish they'd at least lowered the cooldown on those considering how little they shield

>>152715409
at least she's a good pairing for emet

>>152715409
Shield Burst is the same for each Support, anon...

>>152715664
Both hanks give less I think

>>152715283
She can be pretty murderous with either a good comp or just clever play. Heading off the monster with her teleporters, stripping Krakens and Wraiths of armour constantly to make them die stupid-fast due to their lower health, and...okay nothing much to say about her mines except that they hit things I guess. But yeah I often find having one is EXTREMELY useful.

>>152715841
No. shield burst ability on 4 gives the same amount of Shield, I don't remember I think 200 or 300 points.

It's the Shield Charger or Shield Projector that differ

>>152709061
My best perks

>Markov/Blitz
Gunslinger
Energy
Superior Energy

>Parnell
Gunslinger
Reloader
Speedloader

>Lennox
Gunslinger
Reloader
Speedloader

>Slim
Extra Fuel Tank
Reloader
Speedloader

>Sunny
Afterburner
Reloader
Speedloader

why does hyde have the worst assault ai?

>>152718776
AI is terrible for any character

>>152720349
Torvald's is actually half decent, since at least he has no choice but to empty his weapons on every trigger pull. Hyde fucking pulses his flamethrower so slowly it's stupid.

>>152718776
Because the same people in charge of his AI were also in charge of administrating, balancing, and UI design for Evolve.

>>152704573
WE WUZ PALADINS

>>152720349
yes but some are worse than others

AI Hyde fires his flamethrower in bursts instead of continuous fire and randomly switches to the minigun and if fighting a kraken he sometimes doesn't even shoot it when he clearly has line of sight

>>152714217
>still has a fucking rocket launcher
Even as some kind of googly eyed iPod robot, Parnell is still a doom marine.

>>152717448
My best perks
>Rocket
>Rocket
>Rocket
>Swap
>Rocket
>Rocket...

>>152722580
>inb4 he shoots healing rockets

>>152722683
>tfw no medic Torvald with healing mortars

So is Laz good or bad? Everyone in Stage 1 said he was a huge game changer for being able to heal with no strikes, but nobody likes him now. What gives?

>>152723220
He doesnt really work that well with stage 2's changes and most of the community doesnt know how to play him or work with him
He's still usable and fits into a few compositions, but you can usually expect trouble when pubs pick him

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>>152722580

>>152723220
in S1 the mobile arena was not linked to monster health or downed hunters (except the trapper)
Laz can revive people but he is a shit healer. you dont want downed hunter, doesn't matter if you can revive them or not.
dropship timer increase the pressure on you to revive in time.
monster in stage one are also tankier and can camp downed hunter and even eat them.

its not just the balance that fucked Laz over, the mechanics of the game are against him

The devs are hinting at the coop mode for the next update being different. Maybe we're getting a version of nest?

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Guys, I found a leaked image of Torvald's adaptation.

>domed in phase 1
Welp back to read the thread for a while I guess

>>152726491
If they start getting close just ambush them. They'll have no jetpack, their support/medic probably won't anticipate it and if you're quick enough you can down someone and get the hell out of there before they can dome you.

>>152728442
>Only nearby hunter is assault
>He activates his shield
>Medic and support arrive before you can kill him
>It's Val and Hank
gg

>>152728786
You can literally see them through the wall

>tfw want to play Caira because she's the only girl who isn't crazy or action badass grrrrrl but landing those grenades is tough as balls

>>152729376
Caira is a cutie and is worth it

>>152729659
Tracer is cuter.

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>playing gorgon
>hiding behind a wall, sending mimics at them and walking out only to shoot web and acid
>the assault and cabot charge at me instead of chipping me with the rail gun and forcing me to come out
monster op guys

/evog/ premade fucking WHEN
im ready to go pro

Laz keep this thread live

>450 seconds tracked as Abe, 220 slowed
>The monster still manages to get to stage 3
What the fuck man?

>>152729203
Yes, but you can't see them if they are far away. If all you see is an assault, you could ambush him knowing that he is alone for now, and waste effort when what I said happens. A good team knows that the assault should stay in front, giving some time to the medic to regenerate the jetpack if the monster comes for him.
This happened twice in my last game. I managed to ambush the trapper, but the assault's shield prevented me from downing him before his mates arrived. The medic was always well prepared.

Which medic has the highest DPS?

>>152739427
VAL

>2500 players right now

DED
E_E
DED

>>152742097
It's really fucking terrible, I was so excited to see it go f2p. I knew it would never be super popular but god damn this is just sad.

Why is Daisy such a retarded mutt? They should just put her out of her misery honestly.

>>152742346
>>152742097
People been telling this for a long as time now.
>monster is too easy and thus boring
>pub hunters get wrecked and leave

And people keep saying delusional shit like
>b-b-b-but it it will stabilize
Yeah, and the number of complaints is at an all time low, guess soon they will have a perfect game.

>>152742346
What went wrong? I think the game is insanely fun with friends. I don't understand how people can call this repetitive and then play de_dust or Nuketown.

>>152742949
>I think the game is insanely fun with friends
EXACTLY
It is only fun with friends.
But pubs are suffering and that's why it is dying.

How many players on consoles?

>>152745916
Supposedly there's still a small dedicated community, but that never got the stage 2 changes
I have no proof of this supposed console base

I want to know the person from Turtle Rock Studios who designed Wraith and thank him.

>>152742949
I think the problem is it isn't accessible. It isn't instantly rewarding or obvious what you need to do. Most other shooters have this. Evolve doesn't. The game is in a lot of fiddly details that just aren't intuitive or rewarding. Blasting, shielding, healing, cycling weapons is simple, but you spent all that time just to burst the monster's armor. Then the real game is just whether you can chase or the monster can shake you effectively. Or the game is just in whether the medic jukes just enough to dazzle the monster player and get enough seconds to undo all the damage he did. The monster mostly just tries to remember who was the medic from the pre-match splash screen and then just cycles powers while aiming at her

All the stuff that should be fun and important just really isn't. It's brain dead usually. It's all these fiddly little edge things that aren't obvious, intuitive, or rewarding given the theme in play.

Phase 1 wasn't much better. The dome guy being such a make or break job. Then I think hunters outsmarted TRS with that hold the dome strategy.

>>152745916
Stage 2 hasn't come out of beta or hit consoles yet.

>>152747515
Hold the dome strategy?

>>152749469
You don't need to use the dome when you immediately find the monster, only when they're about to escape. Any damage you deal before putting the dome down improves your odds of dealing more health damage before the dome breaks. In extreme and really stupid cases, a hunter team is able to hold the dome until the monster is completely out of armor, meaning they're guaranteed to beat several health bars out of the monster before the dome timer drops from damage.

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>>152742949
>I think the game is insanely fun with friends.
I don't, the game isn't fun or insanely fun neither way.
I played it with other 3 friends and we usually beat the monster pretty fast.
When we played like 30 min we are all bored and move to other games.

Even winning, the game isn't rewarding or fun enough to play it, gets old fast and it's even more repetitive if you play it with friends that know what to do. I started to play it at Evolve phase 2 and all my 3 friends, that had it from phase 1 dropped. So I was playing the game in pub this past weekend and the game went so bad that I dropped too.

>>152751370
There's a big difference between winning and winning against a good monster.

>>152749979
Oh I get it, TRS told you to dome ASAP in the tutorial and going against the meta?

>>152749979
(Assuming this is relevant to stage 2)
Dome timer only drops through direct health damage and hunter downs as far as I know so chipping off armor before a dome doesn't matter as much since you have a solid 5 minutes to do it in.
Not doming (When your team is with you and the dome area is good) only matters if the monster is still interested in a protracted fight or if you have a way to damage the health of the monster directly before it can flee out of your dome range as both of those options will likely run out the dome before it becomes a disadvantage to the monster otherwise.

the x10 weekend was another bad idea because now people feel like there's not much to do anymore aka gain levels until they add them but not all grind enthusiast will come back just because of that, should have kept it at x5 max and never go beyond that

TRS made so many other mistakes, too, like not having some kind of anti-cheat in f2p since day one because that alone drove off thousands of people

why is there an announcer? like it's some sport or some shit

that doesn't fit in with the lore

>>152753509
If they ever get around to making an anti cheat I'm taking bets on how much the inevitable false positives finish off the remaining players.

>>152755254
they're not working on anti-cheat, they are just trying to modify the game so that it's not hackable

>>152753509
If you didn't realize the "10x weekend" was a last hurrah you weren't paying attention.

>>152755332
By introducing new bugs?

>>152757121
yes

>tfw you quit this game on the cataclysm patch and now you just check the steam game player stats of it once in a while to laugh
6k peak 3k current players lmao

>>152751990
How many times do you get a good match? 1 of 10? 1 of 20?
I think that the game is not working because most of the time isn't fun.

they need to make wraith-chan viable again

Are they going to make coop playable? or this goliath bullshit is all that we are going to get?

>>152761020
gorgon is probably the next addition to it that comes with the map variant

>>152758754
>How many times do you get a good match? 1 of 10? 1 of 20?
you could think fixing match making should be priority number 1, but not with TRS

What are the worst hunter combos? Obvious are those with redundancy, like Crow and Kala. Also Laz and Val waste their weak spots on many of the assaults.

overwatch destroyed this game

>>152763476
It destroyed himself.
Himself=devs.

>>152763476
Dirty Bomb general is over there

>>152753509
I'm not so addicted that I had to level fucking everything over the weekend. Played some, got a few favourites to 40, got some perks I've been wanting, still got lots I haven't even bought.

>>152763648
>implying there was anything left to destroy
Dirty bomb lost the moment it became a
a)Nexon f2p
b)sd
c)non advertised
game.
Not enough people know about it, and those who do sneer at the f2p system- with reason, and finally it was abandonned at birth. Damn shame, really.

>>152764763
Dirty Bomb wasn't successful because it didn't advanced the formula at all, It actually regressed from Enemy Territory which is still unparalleled to this day.

don't die

>>152766118
It's not the gameplay that's the real problem. And I say that despite the amount of glitches.

>get targetted as medic
>cant do shit

>>152771672
>cant dodge

>>152773309
>dodging is useful against being consistently pursued

>>152773680
It is
git gudder team

>>152773680
I tend to play a tinkerbell build if i'm medic, specifically Val. It probably won't work against certain monsters - Kraken and Kelder come to mind with their heavy ranged focus - but it lets you just hover above most monsters for fucking ever, enough to keep yourself alive between healing bursts. Best hope you can keep yourself safe during recharge time, but hopefully that's given your team time to wreck the shit out of the monster if it tunnel visioned you.

>>152777163
great on kraken since he can't use LS or banshee mines and he has to look straight up to target you. Electro griffin works wonders against a kraken that tries to focus someone pulling a tink

>>152777163
>>152778273
Had not thought of that actually.
Also, to clarify, tinkerbell is either triple Rocket <X> so Rocket Man, Rocket Lord, Rocket King, or it's Extra Fuel Tank, High Energy Fuel, Rocket King.
If you have the perks, very worth trying out. Miiiight not work against a Gorgon because it can web you to fuck you over, but haven't seen them enough to say.

Updates out
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/live-now-update-2-07-and-the-deepest-dark-beta/99959

>hank nerfs

>kala's 4 buffs

>kraken can't fly as high anymore

>cabot rail reload time increased

>blitz lockon angle increased, making it easier to keep the beam on monsters

>hyde has 1 more second on his grenade cooldown

>abe's 4 reduced to 45% damage reduction

>qcaira's barrier reduced to 30 seconds from 33

>slim's reload increased by .2 seconds

>electro's harpoon gun reload time increased by .25 seconds

>fuel efficiency perks nerfed

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>Play monstro
>Hunters retarded
>Play hunter
>Teammates retarded
Why always this?

>electro nerfs, hank shield nerfs

it's official, they have no idea what the fuck they're doing. Looks like it's almost time to switch to the time scam team comp and never fight

>>152780683
>hank nerf
>cabot nerf
>rabe being a problem at all
>qcaira nerfs
>more useless perks for hunters
fuck off

>>152781163
Quaira was a buff, I didn't phrase it properly

>>152781259
No, it's okay. You did word it fine, they're just looking for any excuse to complain.

>>152763476
>>152781163
>>152780735
>>152780683
Why does everybody act surprised every update.
They have blatantly shown they will shit on the hunters for as long as it takes to reduce the "number of complaints".


>Cabot

>Rail Cannon
>Reload time increased from 1.4 to 1.6 seconds
>Dev Insight
>This reload nerf was mainly done to hit Cabot’s ability to chip at range. Also with the frequency we saw reload perks taken on Cabot we wanted to bring back his reload for 2.07.

We are just assuming everybody is using the reload perk and so we are nerfing the weapon to act like it would normally, only with reload perks.
KEK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24_GBI65hLs

Could be fun

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>>152780683
>hank nerfs
>cabot nerf
>hyde nerf
>slim nerf
>elegriffin nerf
>rabe's shield even worse now
>one of the few relevant hunter perks nerfed

>>152780683

> Hyde

>Toxic Grenade
>Cooldown increased from 12 to 13 seconds

LOOK OUT, OP HUNTERS NERFED YET AGAIN, MONSTER MAINS REJOICE!

>>152780683
>>slim's reload increased by .2 seconds
so making him even less viable again?

>>152781510
Dazed. Reeling. About to break.

>>152781513
>slim nerf
One step forward buff.
20 steps back with nerfs.

>>152781667
>so making him even less viable again?
That's right, we were hoping that the buffs would be just fancy number mumbo jumbo, but he is actually played more now, so we have to nerf him to worse levels than he was before the first buff patch.

>>152781513
>one of the few relevant hunter perks nerfed

The thing that gets me is they didn't touch rocket lord at all.

>>152781972
Don't worry that comes next patch!

>>152781972
yeah, you get like 5 or 10% more efficiency with full efficiency, but with the rocket perks you gain like 40% jetpack recharge 225% jump height in addition to the efficiency.

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>>152780683
>hunter nerfs nerfs nerfs nerfs
Thank you TRS you are my greatest ally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OZeDS9TrO4

>>152781619
>Hydes grenade is too strong
t. no one ever

why did TRS even touch him?

>>152782729
IT'S TOO STRONG, NERF THE DPS, NERF THE COOLDDOWN, NERF THE RANGE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Protip, with good positioning you can have a dome that traps a hunter in a unreachable area if another hunter throws the dome while chasing the monster, if this happens and you have a kala you can teleport all the other hunters out of the dome and leave the trapped one inside so the dome doesn't drop. Sounds hard to do but is really easy when you get the positioning down for it. You can do this 2-3 times and win without the monster being able to do anything about it.

>hunters need to not fuck up and coordinate perfectly to beat the monster, otherwise any mistake might cost them the game and rely on eachother
>monster player is allowed to make plenty of mistakes thanks to armor/evolve health bonus and doesn't rely on other player's skill to win the match
>every patch has nerfed hunters over and over again
Geez TRS, I have no idea where the playerbase went. I mean, if only 1/5 of the players get to enjoy a match and you continue to spit in the other's faces with constant nerfs that are based around the 200 players(20% of the whole playerbase) that play competitive, this game is set to thrive

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>>152780683
>Buff Slim
>Nerf Slim
>Nerf Slim
>"After all those buffs, we felt Slim needed a nerf"

It seems like people like me who like Slim's kit are doomed to suffer for all eternity.

>>152782904
TRS giving a detailed information on how they plan to balance the hunters over the next month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWfVszfi8y0

>>152783634
TRS here
We feel hunters are not punished enough when losing a match, its a team game after all. So when they lose a match (and we know they are favoured so hard they should win 90% of all matches by telemetry!) they lose 500 keys.
We hope this additional motivation will bring back fun for monster and hunter.
Stay tuned.

>>152781510
Monster main here; At the begining I though that TRS is making the game even easiest for us, I starting to think that what they are doing is delete the monster player and creating a coop aganst machine.

>>152784839
With the way things are going, they will need hunter bots as well.

They endgame vision is hunter bots playing vs monster bots and pretending it's a competitive game.

>>152785016
>gambling scene rises up with bets on which AI is better

Serious fucking question, are they're actually people in this thread that thought Hank was fine and wasn't in need of a nerf?

Because I refuse to believe /evog/ is that bad.

>>152780683
Haha holy shit. Even if we pretend for a second, that Slim was way too powerful, they are still neglecting the fact that the Spore Cloud Launcher is completely useless and bugged right now. Instead of actually working to fix the character, they are just nerfing the only aspects of him that are actually ok.

>>152780683
The only good thing about this is
>kraken can't fly as high

Why nerf R Abe when he was already the squishiest assault and deals the least direct damage of all assaults?

Oh wait, because TRS's telemetry says hunters have 90% winrate so its fine :^)

>>152704573
>Just got regular Parnell to elite
Kill me

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where did it all go wrong in Stage 2?

what did the devs REALLY need to do to provide a back bone for this game?

>>152785274
The way I think we think is more like, buff the bad characters, don't touch the good ones. Is Torvald who needs a buff, not hank who needs a nerf.
With monsters I think in the same way, buff behemoth don't touch kraken.

>>152785639

They need to stop their balancing over their make believe competitive scene. There is no potential for competitive. The fact that TRS thought they could make a competitive scene for an asymmetrical multiplayer game is fucking retarded.

>>152704573
I said back in threads that parnell needs a hemelt... becareful with what you want, guys.

>>152709061
>Not capacity on parnell
Explain

Why perks exists?

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holyshit this is bad
map design is okay but the gameplay on that map is terribad

>>152785832
>not swap speed
mag sizes are literally perfect for just switching every time you empty one

>>152786072
I havent had it come up yet
Is it really Nest+Hunt or is it just Hunt with extra gorgons?
At least they finally added other monsters to co-op

>>152785832
capacity nerf reduces the number of shots in the shotgun by 1 and rocket by 1. meaning there's no point taking it since you get better value out of damage or reload.
damage swap damage is considered the best by comp players last I checked.

>>152785639
They didn't listen to bad players, Monsters are being crushed in the top 20% but destroying the hunters in the bottom 80%.

You see it on /evog/, half of the thread doesn't even understand the concept of roaching and then complain how overpowered Monsters are.

>>152786310
>stomp 80% of players with ZERO effort
>lose vs the best players in the game that have mic and practice together all the time

>WAHHH NERF HUNTERS, because I'M LOSING!

>What's that? Get gud? Yes, I think hunters should be nerfed and anybody who protests is a bad shitter and needs to git gud.

Oh boy...

How can i turn off the anticlimatic voice of the halloween guy in the gorgon map?

>>152786647
>lose vs the best players in the game that have mic and practice together all the time

I'm winning 90% of my games playing solo, usually I play Lazarus but I've been branding into RAbe and EGriffin lately.

The reason why your losing is because you have no clue how to use your jetpack efficiently.

This game is going to be a coop against AI soon.

>>152787024
you get 25% more health, 13% faster movespeed and 13% faster jetpack recharge by playing solo and all of those stack with buffs/perks

How do I use Hyde?

>>152787024
>The reason why your losing is because you have no clue how to use your jetpack efficiently.
Look at this guy, he thinks hunters are SO OP that 1 hunter can literally win the game vs the monster even if the other 3 teammates are picking their nose and doing nothing.

>>152787503
melt the monster's fucking face
throw the grenade at where the monster will be or on a downed hunter if the monster's camping him
only use minigun when chasing

>>152787646
You realize the only reason your teammates are this bad because you've got a sub 1.0 WR right?

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>>152788006
ohhhhh boy....

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>>152788006
this is some TRS tier logic right here

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>>152788006

If only this was true.

>Deepest Dark is just a linear path with preset fight areas
That's horribly depressing

I can't even try this new map variant..

The fuck did they nerf Cabot's reload speed for?

All they achieved was making his Rail Cannon slow as molasses without reload perks.

>>152780683

>No buffs to Wasteland Maggie even though she is literally garbage and the worst hunter in the game

>>152789115

TRS works in mysterious ways.

Has anyone noticed that they changed Paladin Parnell's eyes to yellow from blue? Could that possibly mean that he is a support and not a medic like many of us first though.

>>152789115
>The fuck did they nerf Cabot's reload speed for?
Because if you run double reload speed perks, his reload is faster than intended and because EVERYBODY is running those perks, they just decided to bring it down and make the 2 reloader perks mandatory.

>>152789301
>buff hunters
ARE YOU INSANE?! Don't you know hunters are OP?! >>152684342
LOOK AT THAT INSANE WIN STREAK clearly laz has the highest win rate for a reason.
Besides if we buff wastleland maggie we will need for nerf her for 10 patches in a row to balance it out.

>>152788062
>>152788957
>I'm the exception to Matchmaking, every single one of my loses isn't my fault

It's really like I'm playing LoL again!

>>152789550
>playing assfagots
I can see where the mental retardation is coming from, do everybody a favor and go back to it.

>People with hundreds of hours of playtime don't know anything about the game
>Monsters are overpowered, trust me I've got 9 hours playtime!

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>>152789550

>actually putting words into people's mouth
fucking hell man, I'm dying over here.

>playing LoL
Kek, that explains it.

>>152789948
Don't forget

>Why isn't anybody playing Monster those overpowered shameless fuckers, it shouldn't take 15 minutes and several dodges to find a game!

>>152789948
>monster only main cries about hunters being op
>here have 10 patches in a row nerfing hunters and buffing monsters at the same time

>hunter players say monster is OP
>LOL GIT GUD SHITTER

I don't even know how delusional you have to be to live with this mindset.

>>152790120
>Why isn't anybody playing Monster
Nobody said this ever.

>>152790346
>Nobody said this ever.
This folks is how you know they've only been playing a couple of weeks.

>>152725794
kekd hard

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>>152789527
He's not kidding.

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>>152790564
>bitter monster main wont rest until this game is dead

>>152790817
I hate the Abe trapper - abe assault team...
Now another one.

>>152789527
Good, support has the least amount of characters currently. Hopefully he's as fun to play as renegabe

>>152790120
Something can be overpowered and still not fun to play.

>>152792161
I don't believe TRS is capable of pulling a bait and switch like that.

How would Parnell work as a support anyway? I can see him as a medic with healing rockets, but just how would he "support"?

>>152793210
Shield rockets, duh

>>152793210
He's actually regular parnell with shield burst instead of shield and stims that buff a player's movespeed/jump/damage resistance instead of supersoldier.

>>152793663
God if that's actually what it is I will be fucking disappointed.

>>152793663
It could just be that his goggles change color when he enters rage mode. His body suit is still blue in the updated image.

>>152793210
Rocket nets that disable traversals

>>152790972

post the picture, you know the one

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>>152795129

>>152783329
yeah keep doing that and TRS will come up with a "fix" that ruins the game further

Some of these patch changes are agreeable, like the electro Griffen slight nerf.

Sometimes monster is countered and punished so hard for one or two mistakes that it's an uphill battle the entire game, but monster can do that to hunters as well. None of the changes are so significant that they will change the fact that good play is what wins games in evolve stage 2. Skill, luck, and both at the same time etc.

I wish they would hurry up with behemoth and new maps. Like *new maps* not new variants

So I just tried to queue up for a coop game. Decided to leave before start but couldn't. What the fuck is up with that? It would be impossible to even switch classes with people because "Back" does not seem to work at all.

>>152797473
nice work TRS

http://steamcommunity.com/app/273350/discussions/2/355043117530579158/

>>152797045
I wish they would just release the old maps. Were using a third of the maps they have a vailable

>>152786310

Wow I've waited for some time for an intelligent person to come here and post. Please! Come in! The water is just fine on /evog/ :D Really!

With that being said, man the rest of you lot are fine examples of shit sacks.

I know some of you are actively memeing the whole ">TRS balancing" just to kill this general and the game as a whole, but what fascinates me is that even the smallest shit TRS changes is wrapped up in this infantile hyperbole for the other retarded half to gobble up and regurgitate.

To respond with a You to this guy, yeah, the problem is that TRS does not have a FUCKING TEST SERVER where people can give feedback and the devs also have time to modify changes before the shit hits live servers.

But nooooo, all you retarded motherfucks just have to ruin the fun for everyone by crying like babies instead of providing and inciting the developers to accept your feedback.

This is why people can never take your sorry asses seriously, y'all people need to stop playing video games, because you aren't the intellectuals you think you are.

In fact, the people that do believe sad motherfucks like >>152787024
>>152787086 should seriously uninstall the game right now. DED GAME ANYWAY RYT????????X-DDDDDD

Dumbasses...

>>152797962
>Getting mad somebody is calling you out on being a shitter and thinking you have a opinion

Topkek

>>152798056

I'm not even the guy that responded in the first place. Did you read the post? Of course you didn't you fucking waste of planetary resources :))

How long till the game is back to a few hundred players?

>>152798212

When everyone finished banging your mom :>

>>152798345
I'll take that as a "Soon"

That new coop shit is AWFUL. Who thought that announcer shit was a good idea? Do they think everyone wants to hear that shit every time? Just rush to the end and fight a big clusterfuck of one bigger gorgon and a bunch of smaller ones spitting acid everywhere and the eggs for the smaller ones just keep on reappearing.

>Hunt game starts without even trying to find a 5th player
I know the game's on life support but is everyone really just playing coop now?

>>152798795
and every retard wants to play it

and quit if they don't get assault

as if they were any good at the most important role in that shit map with their 15 hours of game time

>>152798212
Maybe they earn 50 players at the end of all of this...

>10x over
>totally lost incentive to play

RIP in peace

>>152803003
You can play co-op.

That announcer though. What a shitfest.
TRS please waste your time and money on something more cool and enjoyable.

So instead of improving the coop AI, they just made the goliath retardedly fast? Either it was packing full movespeed improvement perks in last match or they made it cheat even more.
And a shitty Crow that doesn't keep the monster slowed doesn't help much.

>>152804198
it's all cooked in-house
they don't have any money
do you really expect 2k to give them anything

>The 4 same maps over and over.
>TRS is working on the rest but they're making them desolate wastelands
>In their place they add variations of 3 out of 4 maps currently in the game
>They're bad
>No signs of when they'll add the rest of the game

The game will be back to where it was before Stage 2, before they get out of beta.

>>152804769
it hit 2500 players yesterday
today, even with update it barely holds 4k

So, just tried out Slim. Neither a Wraith nor a Meteor Goliath going full ham on me was enough to actually kill me, although the Moliath got really fucking close. Running Regeneration and two Reload perks on him and just mashing 4 constantly as I spam the leech gun. Fucking hell he's insane.

>>152805272
they were really shitty monster players then because this is the second weakest slim has ever been.

>play coop match
>didn't really pay attention what happened with monster pick while alt tabbed
>everyone thought it was goliath
>monster is retardedly fast, like fucking completely gone when you get there with almost no sounds and tracks barely anywhere and it's not evolving
>it doesn't even trigger any of the spikes
>some retard calls me garbage when the monster is clearly bugged and it's not like anyone was ever trying to cut off anything and followed either me or whatever tracks they saw
>eventually it just stops in its tracks
>it's a fucking wraith

jesus christ
they added other monsters or what?

if there's a fucking wraith that won't even trigger sound spikes I definitely won't be picking trapper in coop since you get the blame while that shit is cheating its way across the map

Is 2k games even okay with what TRS making with their game? Are they know about that game is not only dying again, but also that they're not making any money of it?
I'm clearly see that TRS is don't give a fuck, but 2k games. They're publishing this game.

>>152807042
Honestly, I don't know what are they trying to do with this game.

bump
we at 3k players now

>coop AI is now a turbo retard instead of just a retard
>runs lightning fast just to artificially lengthen matches
>sometimes it's a wraith which is even faster and just as retarded

way to go TRS

there were no patch notes about adding wraith or this big monster speed increase

>>152809434
I think Wraith being in coop is a glitch. Character select has always shown Goliath while the VS screen sometimes shows Wraith with no character portrait
I'm amazed how the AI manages to get worse and worse with every patch. Monsters and AI hunters just stop moving altogether now

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>>152809434
>see goliath in cave
>tracking dart
>suddenly runs and leaps halfway across the map
>try using all of the movement speed perks and still cant keep up with it

>>152812070
>lul trapper git gud
>*smacks lips* u shit trapper lmnao

>>152812198
>*smacks lips*
*unzips dick*

>>152812396
AYYYYOOO NIGGA U GAY OR SUMTIN

TRS is taking the concept of beta a bit too far with garbage like this latest update. They are trying completely stupid unfun things instead of trying to deliver a good game. Are all the SJW women working there pushing for this garbage?

>looked forward to Gorgon mod
>its more repetetive than Goliath hunt
TRS, please tell me the "(BETA)" is there for a reason

>>152814064
I hate SJW as much as everyone else but there is nothing SJW-esk about the update. the people at TRS are just stupid in general

>>152749469
Hold the Dome in Evolve 1 I think was predicated on the fact that a good chase team that skirmished with the monster in phase 1 could always pursue it and wait to dome it until it evolved. By the numbers, certain monsters could not, with the best conditions, EVER get enough distance to evolve safely. And post-evolve armor was A LOT less than it was in season 2, if memory serves

The fact that this game came out more than a year ago and it still has retarded bugs is mindboggling to me. How did this game run on original launch? Did it just fucking crash nonstop?

>>152814385
They're clearly SJW cunts and SJW cunts are cancerous and stupid.
And since they are women they are extra dumb. They're the ones responsible. I am sure of it.

>>152814064
I just can't believe we only have 4 maps still. I never played old Evolve, what exactly was wrong with the map design before that they all needed to be remade?

>>152814919
Nothing. They trimmed everything down to be more F2P friendly
Gotta get those people with toasters to play

>>152815769
not necessarily a bad thing to remove clutter and boost performance.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198319980856/

>he isn't even hiding he is cheating

How the fuck do I get new badge colours?

>>152816546
why should he? he knows that TRS wont ban him or they'll lose more player

>>152814919
If you can find their original Stage 2 posts they detail what was wrong.

I played only a little bit at Pay2Play version so I don't know what the problems were with the map design. There were too many more bigger problems to deal with first.

>>152817409
chokepoints were the big issue. most maps were basically sectioned off into 2 or 3 areas with easy to secure chokepoints making it impossible for the monster to escape

>>152814519
Post evolve armor didnt exist in stage 1. Or at least it did way later into its death throes

>>152819427
it was 0% for the first year, then 25%, then 4 months later it was 50% and it's really fucking stupid in stage 2 mechanics. the fact you can lose all your armor, move to some pain in the ass to get to corner of the dome then evolve without worry is fucking stupid.

>>152819712
It's one of many mechanics that is tough to justify. It was supposed to be a time of vulnerability for the monster thematically, but mechanically, he was too vulnerable. So now we have this big fancy evolve sequence that means very little because there's no consequence.

Not to say it was better the old way. Losing because of an evolve where people found you outside sniff range isn't exactly a satisfying way to get outplayed.

>>152819993
And you can't just take evolving OUT of the game. It is literally in the fucking name of the game.

>running a GIANT FANCY COOP CAMPAIGN WITH RARE CHANCE TO WIN RARE CHARACTERS
>before even getting out of beta
So... I'm guessing consoles are never ever going to get stage 2 are they?

>>152819993
It's fine if you RETAIN 50% of your armor, it is not fucking fine if you have 0% armor in a dome, find a corner, hit the evolve button and the moment you become able to select your skills you magically gain 50% of your total armor back.

I wonder how this fucking co-op vs AI event is going to go when the fucking goliath is managing to bunny hop across the fucking maps at mach 5 forcing you to hope its AI drops dead so you don't spend five years chasing it.

QUICK IM IN CHAR SELECT WHICH TRAPPER IS BEST

I LIKE THE DUDE WITH THE MUSTACHE

>>152821246
None of them.

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>>152821513
then this will be a short game

>the monster has reached stage 3
Welp time to find a new game.

tutorial voice overs are less terrible writing than the pre-match banter desu senpai

>>152823369
>pre-match banter desu senpai

Out of all the things wrong with this game, pre-game banter is at the bottom of the list. Probably one of the better aspects of the game.

>>152823369
>pre-match banter
>terribe
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1470990191438.webm

>>152823369
A lot of things is wrong with Evolve.
A lot.
Banter is not one of them.
At all.

I can get Linux, Torvald, Emet, Slim, or that girl with the nappy hair. Which should I buy next?

>>152824436
EMET or Sunny.

>>152824436
Add Kala and Jack to that list.

>>152824436
best boi Emet

>>152824436
>I can get Linux, Torvald, Emet, Slim, or that girl with the nappy hair. Which should I buy next?
Slim is a top tier hunter if you can actually aim, Sunny is one of the best. She's eaten probably 30 nerfs since her introduction and they still can't keep her down. The rest are gimmick or trash tier.

so is this game any good now with all the patches and whatever updates they brought? i was going to purchase it back when it first released, but all the dlc and stuff turned me off and the game seemed to die overnight.

>>152827223
Ha. Ha ha.


God, no.

>>152827223
it's worse now than ever before, i'm amazed they've managed to kill their game even harder the second time.

>>152827614
>>152827830
so really not worth it at all? not even fun to play with friends or people here?

>>152827980
it's fun if you plan to play monster or can get a 4 man team for hunters. otherwise you're going to have a shitty time.

>>152827980
Everything's fun with friends
I don't think there's even enough people here at one time to make a full group

>>152827980
I find it pretty fun to play in solo, usually as Hunter. But i'm also not a scrub screaming into the sky because they're stuck with other scrubs by skill-based matchmaking, so I may just be enjoying having competent players to play with/against.

>>152828126
>>152828171
oh well

>>152827223
It's better but still shit. It might be fun to muck around with for a little while though but it's got too many fundamental weird design flaws. No amount of patching could fix this without an overhaul of the game more series than the F2P overhaul.

I do not think F2P will ever make it out of beta. They will NEVER make money on this game.

>>152833807
I cannot believe they havent monetized this fucker at all. They must be shitting their pants over the player numbers

>>152834412
>this will be our beta
>and we're building more and more scenarios and heroes and maps and changes onto it than even fucking Overwatch is doing after release
>before instituting the cash shop
>before porting to consoles, where consoles are left hanging with crappy digital sales while they all wait for the F2P

Evolve has been an uninterrupted streak of bad decisions since release.

STILL better than fucking Battleborn though

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>yfw you realize abe is mcree

>tfw playing Deepest Dark
>tfw we will get more coop vs AI stuff
>tfw Evolve will become Left 4 Dead and Hunt will become the secondary mode

Maybe that was the endgame all along?

>>152839142
If they want more coop vs AI stuff, just bring back the other game modes and adjust them with some added gimmicks
I want Rescue back with Wraiths constantly abducting you and civilians purely to piss people off

>>152834964
they've removed like 5 maps and nerfed most of the cast that they're literally who's compared to legacy. i don't think there's been any actual new content besides the tracker and shield burst abilities.

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>>152840191
>they've removed like 5 maps
http://evolve.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Maps

>>152841101
All those maps left behind
At least they're working on bringing them back. Too bad the game will be dead before that happens

so with just one patch TRS managed to
>make some wildlife really fast
>introduce Wraith to coop unintentionally
>make bot monsters retardedly fast
>kill my winstreak by making it get stuck and I need to lose on purpose to see if it will fix it
>make more unnecessary nerfs
>make more people leave the game

good job TRS

>MORE HANK NERFS
REEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>152843949
TRS didn't take into account that his winrate is high because everyone is playing him, including the good players that play the game more, because he was one of the remaining viable supports. But they did take into account the Slim+Hank combo.

Instead of reworking Slim a bit, they nerfed both. And didn't even boost Hank's damage which would have offset his nerf a bit while making Slim+Hank less "toxic" for the monster player.

>More hunter nerfs

I'm slowly drifting into

YOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUU

>all these fucking mongoloids that want to play the new garbage map

for fuck's sake

>>152844658
Hank isn't "one of the remaining viable supports" he's fucking ridiculous and objectively the best hunter in the game.

>>152847758
lol

>tfw no /evog/ lobby to bully shitters and laugh at how bad you guys are

>>152847758
you realize he's now in fifth place for most survivable support when focused right? only Cabot has shittier self-sustain than him. he's practically useless when the monster focuses him.

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>this new map variant
>that announcer

>>152851736
>le ebin spoopiness halloweenie map
>in august
>it's short
>dumb
>and boring

>Pick Laz
>Those horrifying moments your support doesn't pick anything because they're debating Bucket
Please stop.

>>152853457
Why is Bucket bad for Laz? Isn't what those pro teams ran in this recent tournament.

>>152853605
Because you're not a pro team.

>>152853742
Why isn't Kala or Cabot worse for Laz than Bucket since they don't even provide any additional defensive measures? I don't understand why Bucket is the worse support pick for Laz.

>>152853605
Bucket without Laz is bad enough, pubbies have literally no clue how to play him, they often don't have the correct perks, don't place the turrets in the correct place, waste their recharger etc.

Bucket with Laz is everything above and two levels of communication required.

>Trapping the monster so hard as EGriffon people are asking for your perks
>tfw running level 1 health regen and level 1 acidic rounds
I need to focus on unlocking shit more.

>>152853605
Okay since you obviously too lazy to think for yourself I will take you through the process.

>Why is Bucket bad for Laz? Isn't what those pro teams ran in this recent tournament.
First point out why you think running bucket with laz is better than any other support.

>>152854442

Please actually read through the thread See:>>152853868

The way you phrased your post makes it seem that Bucket is the worst support to pick for Laz? Could you explain why that is so?

>First point out why you think running bucket with laz is better than any other support.

I'm not saying ANY other support since Hank and Sunny and TechHank are probably mucher. I'm specifically saying that I think Kala and Cabot are more worse supports to run with Laz. I will iterate it again, why is Bucket seemingly more worse to run with Laz when supports like Kala and Cabot exist?