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Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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Pre-maintenance meet-up starting in about 1 hour. Come to Entrance to Kateen Forest, adjacent to Tenet Garden.

kToS Patch notes are translated: http://pastebin.com/fu4Tx4S5 (embed)

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=610 - Rank 8 Update Preview
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=616 - Transcendence System
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=620 - Latest Patch notes

Previous thread: >>152566346

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Late September™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Frequently Asked Questions:
http://pastebin.com/z0nHSEjH

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vaivora (바이보라)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
Cute (Merigolds)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>>152636408

I wish they looked this good ingame
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shit game
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>>152636408
>Pre-maintenance meet-up starting in about 1 hour.
but its starting now. Maint is in a hour

gg messed up
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What am I supposed to do during maintenance?
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>>152636931
jerk your feminine penis
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Sorry for not going to the meetup tonight cuties, theres just nothing to be databased about
good night everyone
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>>152636679
are you the same anon who posted /Ohayou/ when every thread? Cause we were wondering what was going to happen when we made Ohayou
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>>152636931
talk to your crush on steam
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>>152634839
>>152634865
So I just do all quests and pop cards when I'm falling behind on quest level or can't pick up new quests anymore?
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>>152636964
>tfw Ohayou is secretly Beethoven's personal harem
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>>152637135
When you can card to the next dungeon (except 160), pop cards. Your main objective is to keep being able to fall into the recommended range of dungeons and run them (get a token for 3 entries) every day. If you're overleveled, say 160-174, quest your way to 175 DG.
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Small, but comfy meetup underway in Orsha.
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>>152637427
>tfw the Orsha meetup has more people than the Klaipedo meetup
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>>152637206
>secretly
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>>152637458
there is a dozen now and more comin. at klai
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>>152637520
I see you Kora
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A level 280 is born!
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how do we go from this...
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>>152638269
To this
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>>152637520
>Those disgusting brown eyes
Poorfags
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>>152638269
>>152638385
>IMC kills the game
also
>'recently new released game' kills TOS
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Lv 50 dungeon full clear = 63.7k.
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>>152636931
Me!
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>tfw no more like orgies
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I tried
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>>152639129
Why do you bully elememes?
What if you're wrong and come r8 they just become stronger?
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https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449ff.1123354551.14253541.1f293f6571.15213455.192a354155
Is my build will do any good?
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>>152639129
Warlock3 will save Elememes!
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:3
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Sorry if I'm not leaving a free buffs bot like I wanted, but with the constant channel crashes that would be a waste.

Thanks for the patronage and the friendship, /tosg/!
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Anyone know where the artie snake rod comes from? I would like to waste some silver anvils on it
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>>152639458
You will be missed
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>>152639318
r8 is already out in ktos and elememes got btfo
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>>152639318
does not looks like that currently
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>>152639458
Rip Orsha
Canelles buff was the only reason I went there ever

Thanks for the buffs
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>>152639458
There are few people here in /tsog/ that cares about helping each other, and pretty sure that you helped a lot of people starting the game.

Thanks for that, you will really be missed.
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So is balance in this game really that bad? Or is it exaggerated? If so, what is REALLY bad? I don't care about not being the BEST, but I don't want to be complete crap.

Most interested in Squire or that one class that builds wood totems for buffs, forgot the name.
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>>152639770
Squire is shite
Woodcarver is OP and really super good

The balance in this game sucks massive donkey dicks
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>>152639458
See ya, Canelle. You were always a pleasant person to have around, even if we never really talked much. Gonna miss you all the same.
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>>152639458
Pains me every time I see one of you leave. Good luck wherever you decide to go.

Bye bye. We'll be here, in case you decide to come back.
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>>152639458
Fuck off if you're not gonna buff anymore.
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>>152639458
What channel and prices do you usually put your shop at?
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>>152639770
Roll a cleric and you won't have to worry about balance, IMC loves their overpowered healers+dpsers+tanks+utility support omniclass.
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>>152639458
Bye canelle, i know we didnt talk much but i think you are kind!
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>>152639458
Good luck Canelle, we never talked but I'll missed your tats!
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>>152639974
Fuck you. Canelle has always been nice, pleasant, gentle, and helpful! Don't talk shit about Canelle.
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>>152639458
rip, no more inquisitor data
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>>152639462
>artie snake rod recipe
190 dung, pretty cheap on market last time I checked
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>>152640050
Okay, what else is good? Any of the Archer or Swordsman classes?
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Do klaipedos ever not namedrop/attentionwhore?
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>>152639458
where the fuck are you going anyways?

jToS?

or some other gay mmo?
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>>152639458
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>>152639458
Bye mom..
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>>152639462
>>152640263
I got one from 200 dungeon.
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Does pilfering with Jolly Roger get likelier with more party members?

Can you pilfer cards from the mercenary post missions?
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I quit at level 230, how is leveling to 280 with the addition of new quests?
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>>152639458
why do people keep quitting when the game is only getting better?
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>>152639458
Does this mean Trappe is quitting too?
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>>152640483
>this piece of shit got a little less smelly, one day the smell will disappear and it'll turn into a gold bar!
heh
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>>152639458
Y-you can't just get up and leave like this........
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>>152640483
but its not
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I'm going to marry Lalaco!
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It was fun. Night, Kotatsu people. See you all on the next episode.
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>>152640483
>rank 8 aka "We fucked up on swordman during rank 7 so we chose to power up them to God Killers level but at same time we powered up the monsters to Titans status but left untouched everyother class so now we fucked up even more"
>getting better
AH
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>>152639458
adieu
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ToS endgame
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>>152640721
is that everyone?
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>>152640465
I did 217-258 questing and barely any dungeon/missions. Still have a few zones a bit higher than my level that could get me to 265ish.
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>>152640726
Marriage sistem soon!
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>>152639458
I'm sure I will miss you more than anyone else, but I'm glad we've had the opportunity to share so many happy moments here.
It makes me happy to see you've left a mark on so many people just for being the kind, friendly person you are.
You will be missed.
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>tfw no one will give a fuck if I quit because I'm not a big namedrop or anything but I been playing since the first beta
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>>152640726
>he want to marry a sloot
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>>152641105
what's your name?
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>>152640721 uoyahO sends their regards
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>>152641105
Namedrop yourself.
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>>152641103
You better have each other's steam so you can meet up and get married.
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>maintenance starts
>amerifats start cuteposting/ERPing in thread
I hope Hillary wins and destroys your shit nation.
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>>152639458
I never got to ask you but didn't your name used to be Viscont at some point? I could have sworn you had that name when we talked at Nahash for a while. Good luck with life, I hope you come back someday and I don't quit before that too.
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>>152639458
Bye Canelle, I'm gonna miss your friendly manner and motherly charm and crying wolf to restock your buffs

I hope you play something that's truly fun and nowhere near this tier of disappointment
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>>152641268
YAMATE MURBISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>152641481
You do realize that just like in Aliens vs Predators, no matter who wins we all lose, right?
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>>152639458
RIP in pepperoni.

Your memory, will always be Futureproof
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>>152641164
>Not marrying sloots
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>>152640263
>>152640450
Nice, thanks lads.
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tfw it's raining...
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>Wiz3Linker3FF2 is considered new Wizard DPS meta
But FF is fuckling shit, terrible damage on it's own and restricted too
Wizard in rank8 are literally the new swordman for real if a shit class like FF is considered meta
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>>152641169
Who's that cutie getting headpatted.
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>>152641654
>I'm cucked so everyone else must be cucked too
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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>>152641781
>FF2
You mean warlock2. Though really wiz3link3 is all the damage you need for mobbing, and r7/8 is just filler.
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>the only thing you had to do to earn free tp from gvg event is to participate once
>even literal whos never seen before with huge - balance managed to earn free tp
You probably on suicide watch right now.
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>>152641169
next time ill water you even more!
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>>152641914
>everything about this game and this community is depressing as fuck the last few weeks
Yeah, but not because of GBL.
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>>152641908
Lock2 is the other considered option
Right now there are only 2 rank8 DPS wiz viable build
Wiz3Linker3FF2
Wiz3Linker3Lock2
An both are betting on how stronger will the C3 at rank9
Wizard are terrible, if you roll one now you should just go a support/cc cuckslave
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>>152642083
They're also both betting that JP+MM interaction won't get nerfed.
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>>152642149
It's not. They already set it in stone.
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>>152642149
If that happen wizard will lose 99% of their DPS output in rank8
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>>152641914
We got cheated out of ours, but IMC has already acknowledged our support ticket.

I'll shoot some to members as soon as possible.
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>>152641268
has Beethoven always been this much of a pimp?
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>>152642083
>"dont use low rank shit at high ranks anymore"
>wiz is dead if not using one (soon two) Rank3 skills
imc pls
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>>152639458
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>>152642083
>An both are betting on how stronger will the C3 at rank9

Ah, this will be the Wiz3Thauma3 builds
ALL
OVER
AGAIN

Keep the Wiz3Link3 full int incoming until it's nerfed and the class will be for nothing else.
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>>152642302
You don't even need to invest in int to delete 100k++ hp mobs, you just need a decent weapon for JP+MM.
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>>152642302
thaums got fucked hard in r8

all their buffs are pitiful compared to transcendance and reversi is scrollable, top fucking kek
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>>152642302
>mfw cant decide between Linker C3 FF and Linker C2 Necro FF for the Dirty Pole + Ngadhundi decay combo
help
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>>152642302
>thaum vs R8 mobs
Anon please. you didnt even try
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>>152642372
Scrolls aren't usable in GBL or TBL. Thaum is still Futureproof, specially paired with Featherfoot.
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>>152642416
>Dirty Pole + Ngadhundi decay combo
Don't fall for this. Necro1 is lackluster.
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>>152642416
Go Linker3, better than Linker2NecroFF especially with rank8 where no matter what you will be wanted and used for stat sharing link
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>>152642462
t. lolipan
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>>152642083
Can you stop memeing up my build, faggot. Go play necro kiddo.
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>>152642262
I really don't think I can stomach one more cute couple being cute together in front of me anymore. I really can't. It hurts me in deep, dark places.
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>>152642462
>Thaum is still Futureproof, specially paired with Featherfoot.
How deluded are you?
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>>152642262
yes
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>>152642523
For once he is almost right for r8 wizard TBL
>>152642553
>Go play necro kiddo.
How are the C3 archer who die in one hit and deal 0 relevant damage?
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so what is everyone doing during maintenance besides jerking off?
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>>152642686
stress eating
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>>152642627
>C3 archer who die in one hit and deal 0 relevant damage
>I don't play the class so everything it has is shit
Play the game.
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>>152642686
eating
got to go somewhere soon
maybe cry
sleep
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>>152642248
That is assuming they understood you.
Protip: in most cases they don't,
I wish there was a compilation of their support replies.
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>>152642523
>>152642591
>Full Int
>Swell Brain for an extra 145 INT
>Transpose into 100k+ life
>Levivate
>Get the bullshit buff from Sage that makes me immune to arrows
>Float to the enemy team while 100% immune to all damage
>ALLAHU AKBAR
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>>152642686
I might flirt with my crush over steam. Maybe play something on my handheld and browse the thread.
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>>152642627
Trying to reversi shit in 2fps hoglan isn't "right". What's actually right is 3linkFF with a missile hole buff with all settings at lowest so you can fly up to the enemy at crispy crunchy 20 fps, then JP+allah ackbar.
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>>152642724
>>152642769
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>>152642567
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>>152642831
gotta wait for R9 for that though senpai
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>>152642793
The missile hole is now 16 hits at level 5, it's dependent on that if they can bring you down or delay you with statuses you like Raise/Magnet.
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>>152642686
Playing Russian(Alt) roulette so I can decide on whether i level my future farmer, make a pardoner or a bot bullying machine when my main's instance limit is hampering my leveling progress
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>>152642627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D52_xhu8A4
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/necro-sorcs-summons-can-stun-with-minotaur-card/323072
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>>152642686
Watching anime and jerking off to it
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>>152642567
what happened to your steam crush senpai?
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>>152642907
You realize missile hole is a party-wide buff right?
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>>152642262
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>>152642935
16 hits is more than enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZetBFMKWdU0

I wonder if the walk speed attribute works while floating.
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>tfw canelle is quitting iToS because she's going to play jToS full time
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>>152639458
(you)

Rip Canelle. In all my time spent on this game, I knew I could count on you. You've made my dick rock hard more times than I could count, thanks to your motherly charms and stuck up attitude.

Love you always.
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>>152642973
Needs video evidence/testing, the guy could've been getting stunned only by summon bats which count as the player's own damage source, unlike the other summons which count as their own damage source and probably wouldn't use the player's cards.
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>>152643173
This. Bats are directly from the sorc's damage.
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>>152643173
>>152643242
t. misinfo samefag
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>>152643021
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>>152643173
I've fought a Sorcerer whose TempleShooter was stunning me at almost every hit for 3 seconds. Can confirm it works.

The entire Card System is designed around making Wizards and Archers broken.
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>>152643293
t. double misinfo agent
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>>152643313
LICORICEEE
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>>152642973
So where do I get my hands on a minotaur card?
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>>152639458
sorry I got lazy in the end
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who /stillhavingashittonoffunafter2000hours/ here?
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>>152643320
I'm certain its not intended and will be fixed which is a pity because sorc is beyond shit and with status cards it would have its own style, its not even that strong.
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How we do?
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>>152643546
I mean if you're getting stunned in the first place that means you'd be raped by any sort of status so you deserve to die
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>>152643546
>stunlocked sleeplocked
>not that strong
I murder PDs as soon as their bloodletting runs out.
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>>152643515
I wanted to reply positively but I can't.
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>>152643150
T-trappe?
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>>152643515
I've actually made a bunch of friends and I'm having fun playing every day.
I'm not insane enough to have logged 2000 hours though.

I wish the people I partied with in iCBT2 still played
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>>152643515
Haha I am!
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>>152643673
no
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>>152643704
yes
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>>152643601
Thats what any wiz 3 can do with 15 sleep. Or kino doesnt need to wait. Compared to this its nothing.
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>>152643675
>I wish the people I partied with in iCBT2 still played

Namedrop:
Arphage are you still playing? What server?
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Tell me about your planned rank 8 build anons.
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>>152643694
STOP. PLEASE.
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>>152643879
I only played wizards but I might make an exception.
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>>152643564
Honestly that game looks both better and more polished than ToS will ever be
>tfw will never play a game where Aoba worked on
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>>152643828
You need to aim an AoE using an actual CC class. With the cards, you can auto-target people(which is possible regardless of desyncs), perpetually reapply the debuffs WHILE doing damage, and any class can use it(obviously, some make much better use of it than others). It's broken as hell and just perpetuates the perma-CC based PvP we have right now.
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>>152643879
Working on SwPeltBarb3Fencer3.
I have a guildie who going DRG2, can't wait to tag team bosses with them.
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>>152643879
Sword1Pelt1Hopplite3DoppelDragoon2
Boring standard Dragoon build, almost Doppel now after 1 week
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>>152643980
Have even you played any summoner? Your ts and skeletons will be attacking nearby immortal pet or icewall with caltrops. Summons can be killed like nothing too.
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FUCK ALL CORSAIRS AND THEIR GAY HOOKS
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>>152643879
I've been working on this all week in preparation for PD2. It's a build focused on using Incineration and the new Plague Vapor skill. It's doing bretty good so far.

The final version looks like this
https://youtu.be/YXg1IApsH50 except she took Bokor C3 instead of Oracle.

After this caps Im making a Linker FF
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>>152644180
>hold/attack TS on top of enemy
>it targets them first and aims them until they run out of range
woah......git gud
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>>152644246
I did. The problem is everyone else who found it found a new one, and now I have to pick between two separate sets of my friends.

Cute animu girls though.
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>>152643980
>perpetually reapply the debuffs WHILE doing damage
That almost sounds like pp or rush with restrain, wow!
>>152644351
Play the game.
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>>152640803
fk outa here, now you know how swordies felt. Feelsgood to not be a rerolling bitch
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>>152644513
>doesn't know how to control TS aggro
>tells others to play the game
lol whatever kid, stay bad for all I care
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>>152644351
You should really play the game.
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>>152644317
>fps 55+ at all times with the rare 45+ exception
how
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>>152644584
I murder all sorc/necro summons with their masters and their whole team with 2 buttons on daily basis, kiddo. I wouldn't care if they had 100% chance to cc because the moment they summon they're already dead.
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>>152644784
>im so good because i play against baddies
is that you cats?
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>>152644836
>cats
>saying "kiddo" unironically
That's Vanzel.
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>>152644875
who?
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>>152644930
Play the game.
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>>152644930
>he doesn't know the #1 PvPer in all of ToS
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>>152645034
>namedropping makes you skilled
rofl this kid
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>>152645112
t. vankek
>>
Hey guys

Archer C1 - Ranger C2 - Wugushi C1 - Rogue C1 - Falconer C3

This is my super build, Every body knows that Feint and Barrage is top DPS, if you put in Circling attribute, it will 2x the Feint-Barrage damage! Fletchers are shaking in their boots. Not to mention Poison damage x2 !!

Rate me.
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>>152641830
Looks like Moonie
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>>152645280
lol
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>>152645280
wugushit doesn't fit, you'd be better off with archer c2 or ranger c3
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>>152645280
>Ranger C2
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>>152645412
Barrage does not work under Circling, so Ranger C3 is a no-go. And Poison damage is not enhanced by Circling, it does not stack, it's like 2 Wugushis poisoning 1 target.

But since it has Feint. It might just work.
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>>152645917
Then archer 2 for multi shot and crit buff
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>>152645280
ranger 2 is bad, its not worth doing it. Go either Ranger 1 or Ranger 3. You should take archer c2 instead just for the 25% crit rate attribute.

t. archerfag
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so what are the new swords meme builds. i dont have a swords at all and now i want to be a (boy) with a sword
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>>152646163
Hop 2 cor 2 goon 2
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>>152639458
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FUCK

For a PvP Sorcerer Build would you pick:

Wiz3 > Linker 1 > Sorc 3 > Warlock
Wiz3 > Linker 1 > Sorc 3 > Sage
Wiz3 > Linker 1 > Sorc 2 > Warlock 2
Wiz3 > Linker 1 > Sorc 2 > Warlock 1 > Sage 1
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>>152644601
glorious KTOS

i got more FPS with maxed settings there, than with any settings here.
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>>152646503
Wiz3>Link3>Anything not sorc
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>>152646573
But I want to have fun summoning stuff in the face of people and feel somewhat useful.
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>>152646795
diev or inq?
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>>152646795
>and feel somewhat useful
Then do exactly what I said.
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>>152646841
AND != OR anon.
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How viable would this be?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/ep12riguqq/
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>every day some guy would say he's new etc. wants to join a guild
>no follow up, no contact
>these people probably got bored with the game and quit by rank 3
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>>152646917
trash now and even more in r8
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>>152646917
It's trash.
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>>152646920
It happened to me like 4 times already
One guy disapeared literally 4h after joining in and never logged back in the game at all
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>there are people who rolled Ele3Lock and there are STILL people rolling Ele3Lock
AYYY LMAOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=91&v=cQBeE5loqKU
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best build for warlock two, go
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>>152647540
wiz3linker3
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>>152647318
>that pathetic swordcuck jumpzing
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>>152647318
>oh boy. i hate elelocks so much. i will shit on them and post 'better wiz builds'
>oh shit, they all use 'better wiz builds' now and i again hate them so much
dude, you are only fucking yourself in the ass
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>>152647540
Wiz3Linker3Lock2
Literally no other way to build a damage oriented wiz now
90% of your DPS will still come from QuickCast>Joint Penalty>Hangman Knot>Jumping and MM
Lock2 is shit
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>>152647663
>>152647540
Forgot to mention i rather put FF2 instead of Lock2 there
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>>152647740
I changed my mind, FF2 is shit, I'd rather go Lock2.
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>>152647871
You, stop falseflagging
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You people do realize that links are broken in ktos atm and make you hit way more times than you should be. Normally the max aoe damage multiplier is 2, but currently in ktos its hitting like 10 times per attack.
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>>152647871
I changed my mind, Lock2 is shit, I'd rather go thaum3.
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>>152647992
its been the same in itos for like a month now
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>>152648039
Nah its nowhere near as bad in itos as it is in ktos at the moment.
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I dont know anything about how circling works but i want to use a fwee in my build. You only need to take circling up to 4 because the AoE ratio that it subtracts isnt to one mob but to everything within circling's effect, right?
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>>152647318
False alarm. Its bugged and will hit only once with jp when fixed.
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>>152647540
I changed my mind, thaum3 is shit, I'd rather go Necro2.
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>>152648251
>>152648175
>tfw Wiz DPS is depending on a bug which can be fixed anytime soon
Worse thna swordman right now
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What is Wizards bug?
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To be fair, I don't feel like wizards ever SHOULD have been the kings of damage. Wizards are for utility, they do too much other shit. This is the class with sleep, link, millions of freezes, summons, haste, quicken, stop, you name it. I'm a wizard player (wiz3 wizard no less) but I still think this is how it was supposed to be.
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>wake up
>check discord to see what my guildmates are up to while the game is offline
>300+ messages debate on whether or not a member would suck another member's member if it was bitten by a cobra
>go back to sleep
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>>152648873
Make sure not to poop your pants this time, Kada
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>>152648873
is it true one of your members has a double dick?
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>>152648873
cnl
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>>152648873
Would you?
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When does the maintenance ends?
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>>152648873
would you?
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>>152648867
>magic shouldn't do damage
so you're a cuck basically
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>>152648873
Well, would you?
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>>152649345
>the class that has all of the utility should also have all of the damage
xD good reply friend

I didn't say wizards shouldn't do any damage. I said they shouldn't have done the most.
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>>152649448
>the class that has highest hp growth shouldnt have all the damage
>the class that has heals and party buffs shouldnt have all the damage
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>>152649448
Give me a wizard build that has all the utility and all the damage then. Oh wait you can't, and instead you're talking like you can fit every c3 into a single build and have everything so you can be a stupid little cuck.

If you want to build support the you take support classes, if you want to do damage then take damage classes, and some of both for hybrid. That should be how the class system works. Taking all damage classes to deal shit damage is just moronic balancing.
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>>152649448
You're retarded. When maintenance ends, take a look at the character creation screen and look at wizard's stats.
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>>152649512
>the class that has highest hp growth shouldnt have all the damage
This class is melee.
>the class that has heals and party buffs shouldnt have all the damage
And this is a meme.
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So my 1:1:3 scd ratio has been working pretty great for my bowfag build, but a bunch of you fags said it'd be shit. Do you guys just not want other people to have shit that works?
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>>152649601
those arent arguments
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>>152649564
t. an archer
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>>152649621
>trusting theorycrafters
>ever

Some of them haven't played the game yet m8.
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>>152648867
name one build which does all the damage and have all the utility
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>>152649621
Just wait until you reach current end game where all the stat bonuses actually add up instead of the literally nothing 20 stats you've accumulated so far.
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>>152649826
wiz3link3warlcok
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>>152649826
any cleric with an r8 circle :^)
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>>152649826
Wiz3Link3Warlock.
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>>152649826
Wiz3Link3Warlock
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>>152648238
Negative AoE ratio does wonders.
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>>152649921
>>152649949
>r8 story bosses take 5 minutes to kill
>damage
uhmm?
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>>152650017
Sorry, I should have been more specific!

Wiz3Link3WL2 that can find his pixel of agony key.
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>>152650015
So 4 points or 5 points in circling? Is there any reason to ever take more than that?
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>>152649851
Man, you REALLY don't want anyone else to have a good build.
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>>152650053
>I am literally theoryshitting out the ass
You're not going to be one shotting bosses with pixel of agony without madara funding.
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Those who rerolled into barb 3 are fucking fucked, High 3 or Rodel is where its at now
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>>152650193
even for fencer3?
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>rerolling new meta alt for r8
>doing dungeon
>see someone rolling an elememe
how do I break the bad news to him?
>>
https://youtu.be/vPtC0g0xr0Y
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>>152643104
I remember this! Thanks for posting it!
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>>152646503
The new changes look like a disaster for sorc3. Quick cast benefits warlock1 more than sorc3, and dark theurge is deadly already. Transcendence and new equipment are going to ramp up personal damage while doing nothing for the main summon.
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>>152650259
On the same boat man.
I feel bad for her at this point.
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>>152650068
You can check it with lvl 1 circling and lvl 2 circling on small mobs. AoE skills has bigger AoE when used on negative mobs. Multishot, Claymore, Jincan Goo.
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>>152650238
pretty much

High 3's utility will serve you till rank 10, same goes with Rodelero's utility and CCs

Barbarians however were always just something you add in the current meta for more burst and stuns, r8 however has a huge damage hike that the r8 classes are well prepared for with or without barb

so in the end it goes like this, once r8 comes, your barbarian skills would all be for Stuns, the damage would be negligible
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>>152650684
>the new "post good builds" shitposts will feature elememes from now on
>tfw I spent millions on my elememe's attributes

At least I rolled a Dragoon too.
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>already have a necro, plague doctor, sr and cannoneer
Literally fine no matter what balance shakeups fuck with the theory craft and first week ktos meta.
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>>152650238
yeah, Fencer c3 would be doing too much damage in a small amount of time that Rodel's CC actually helps a lot, especially montano.

Plus Shield Fencers are still able to use their shield skills with Epee Stance as is with Dragoon's gae bulg throw, there are still talks of nexon nerfing Epee Stance to disable the off-hand weapon itself, be it a shield or a dagger
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>>152650838
But this is a lie. Your oracle isn't a pd yet, silly.
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>Want to reroll and try making a dragoon2
>Realize I've sunk a fuckton of silver into my fletcher3 attributes already though

Fuck, is swordsman fun?
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>>152651369
I like them for the first 150 levels. After that, no, not really. The fun falls off then. Maybe they get fun again at R7, but they're the only archetype I haven't taken that far.
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>>152650830
>>152651369
tosg weeks ago
>gear is shit, you replace that soon, attributes are forever and highest priority to spend silver on

hehehehehehe
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>>152650954
epee stance has 100% uptime?
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>>152650818

Hl 3 skills get nothing from fencer 3 and they are locked into piercing attack, so only cross guard wich sux with high Dex builds. And epee stance demands high Dex builds. Skull swing is useless because fencer already has attack coquille, bleeding is a joke that can't crit so no epee stance bonus. Skyliner is weaker than cleave nos after the last changes and again, no epee bonus. A crit from composee vs a cloth mobs (-50%) with epee stance deals more damage than a crit from skyliner in the same cloth mob (+50%), this assuming that they bleed.

New Warcry scales with monster's level, with 10 lv 130 mobs you get 330+130 attack already. Pure physical attack bonus that goes into your character stats window and get amped by epee stance. 50% uptime.

Rodelero at least brings a few true utilities. So forget Highlander forever.
Highlander 3 is only, only for doppels except if you want to skull swing for others.

Another options are corsair, pelt 1 (evasion taunt synergizes with Warcry), hl 1, sword 3 for a possible PvP, hoplite 2 with pardoner and etc, but the r8 content slayer is pelt 1 barb3.
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>>152650015
>>152650068
>this negative aoe ratio misinfo meme again
There is no need for negative aoe ratio. You only need 4 circling.
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>>152651523
>>152650818
so its either go BarbFencer or RodelFencer?
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>>152651473
>>152650830
>every week they do balance patch
>surely they won't tune ele3/warlock numbers ever
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>>152651608
>RodelFencer
the only thing good about it is slithering, nothing else
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>>152651608
BarbFencer = PvE

RodelFencer=PvP

at Rank 8

but in itos its still BarbFencer>RodelFencer
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>>152651589

I have a lv 4 circling falconer anxI can confirm that the magic missile madness only happened with divine might on dungeons. Tested vs a mob of demon prison 2 with lv 3 and nothing happened, later that day with circling 4 and when divine might was on, elememers magic missile fps killing magic happened. I have to go back to my fees to test more but my elememer friend give up already

Other skills works fine like circling 4 + multishot.
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>>152651886
>Shield Charge
90% evasion on Missilefags

>Montano
unblockable spin+slow+stun

>Shield Bash
High Dex fags become INT fags

>Targe Smash
3 sec silence

>Shoving
1.5 second stun
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Can I get some comments on this build?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449f.1123354551.14213545.1f2b3f41516171.1521334155.15253144

Do I go full str some con? Or just full STR period?
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>>152651608

Currently, yes. Don't let people fool you, barbs stuns are great as utility too
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>mfw Rodel image is still shit thanks to Lolifag
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>tfw one of my guildmates is quitting the game because Elememe is kill and he invested so much silvers in it to get +15 Corona 90% FC 3/4 Lolopanther
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can someone give me the most meta/optimal fencer c3 build? and how much dex do fencers usually want, do they still cap it at about 100 base?
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>>152651748
Well, they won't.
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>>152651916
>ANYTHING in the swordsman tree trumping pouncing in TBL
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>>152652170
Shield charge is 100% knockdown though?
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What this patch has broken?
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>>152652116
jellyfags will shit on this

>ppl quitting is good
kys
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Why do monsters not drop materials and equip in dungeons like on normal maps?
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>le elementalist is shit meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR_-pM606ys
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>>152650838
>only have wizard characters
>all got fucked because none are full support or wiz3linker3
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>>152652116

Why? Frost Cloud is still the most consistent AoE dps in the game.
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>>152652134


I'm afraid that with current epee stance, you want to crit as much as possible, so nearly full Dex with some con and a lot of critical rate gems and gear.
Maybe str is dead for fencers.

Some mathfag can help with this, but maybe a mix of Dex and str like 3:1 still works because of the last str buffs and +70% from the rank up (r8).
>>
Is there such a thing as tanking in this game? Looking at classes, I see healers and buffers, summoners , trappers and stuff, but I don't think I see any actual tanks that taunt and all that.
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It's up
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>>152652457
didn't lock 2 get some improved version of bwa kamiyan?
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>>152652551
Peltasta
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>>152652457
>max attributes and gear
>still can't kill a mob with just frost cloud
>meanwhile an average inquisitor's meme wheel can
ELEMEMES ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>152652521
It fall off very hard
The average Ele3Lock damage will be terrible
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>>152652457
i like that but

>max/almost max attributes, 3 LP, 100% transc
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>>152651748
You mean like how pyro was buffed to compete with elementalist? Oh wait...
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>>152652740
forgot
>weak as fuck mobs
>>
>they killed Dina bee farm again
F
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>>152652457
>even ktos still has that fucking spell freeze bug
Also that video just made it even more apparent that elememes got powercreeped out like fuck. Basically uchiha elemadara attributes and transcended gear and still has trouble with mobs.
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>>152652457
Lets see what the 90% of Wiz3Ele3Lock would do before cherry picking an RMT tier one
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>>152652457
>all those button press
>meanwhile Wiz3Link3WL simply deletes them in a few buttons.
>elememes will defend this
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>>152652832
in what way?
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>>152652457
Told this retarded, 500k frost clouds, double pixel of agony and this guy is not e even using the new mastema attribute (a mini 1/3 FC).

The only thing that changed is that dragoon and fencer can compete and hit harder on single target assuming the mob has a huge hp


>>152652746

Pyro can compete already and sage pyro 3 wiz 3 sounds great, I have yet to see one.
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>>152652728

Am I missing something? Was there a rank8 class introduced that has insane AoE dps or something? Last I checked all of the new ranks only had high single target burst, with maybe the exception of SR3 and Plague Doctor 2.
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>>152652457
He just died to trash mobs. I didn't believe the ele is dead hype before, but now they literally are dead.
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>>152652886
>Link bug fixed and its useless again
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>>152653048
>implying it's a bug
It's working as intended ;^)
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So Aiming makes the hitbox bigger, so you can use stuff like Caltrops to hit all of them on a single target? If you put a Broom Trap under Aiming, does that mean all three brooms will hit the boss at the same time? If under Circling, does that make it twice while hitting the boss three times at the same time?
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>>152652989
>Pyro can compete already
lmao
>sage pyro 3 wiz 3 sounds great, I have yet to see one.
That's because every pyro rerolled or quit, because what "sounds" good to you is clearly fucking bad. A fully funded fully attributed elememe has to use all their spells to kill a mob and still dies, and that's good to you? You're a retard.
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>>152652457
How in the fucking fuck do they have animation stuck too? Does this mean its here for good?
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>>152653120
As a wiz3linker I have a sneaking suspicion that it actually is bugged. Will do testing myself but if it is I sure as hell won't post the proof. The last thing wizards need are more nerfs.
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>>152652457
That is REALLY shit for someone with such high attributes.
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>>152652989
>pyro sage
is shit

balls are shit and more of them is also shit. and that's all sage does to pyro
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ded game
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>>152652986
3 channels
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>>152652551
This game users pullers instead of tanks. Instead of inviting mobs to beat on you like a fool, avoid their attacks while luring them in.
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What about that sage aoe skill, that thing can hit for 100k at least with QC I think. That on top of a 500k total FC is not that bad
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>>152653884
the skill that does not exist?
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>>152644114
How do you level so fast?
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>>152653884
>that thing can hit for 100k at least with QC I think.
Did you literally just pull this out of your ass?
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>>152653963
>>152654029

I remember that I saw a skill that creates a black mass doing 50k damage (no multihits) and I presumed that this damage was without QC and bad attributes
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>>152646920
I quit at rank 5. At rank 3 there was already a grind to reach 50; pretty sure most get weeded out by that point.
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>>152654116
that was a gm showing off skills for the nexon website.
all skills they show did 40-120k.

that skill does like 2-5k and does 4 hits
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>>152654116
That was an official preview on the nexon website. They used inflated stats from debug to show 50k damage for everything when the reality is nowhere close to that.
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>>152654167
>grind to level 50
oh you fucked up son, too bad you didn't bother asking before grinding
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>drawfag guild member drew some members if they were in-game emoticons
>tfw I got tired Popolion
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>>152654167
>I quit
>still here
uhmm
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>yfw when you fell for the hovering meme

Hovering 0 and Sanic Strike 10 means Pre emptive Strike always uses Sanic.

Fuck.
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>>152654404
And this is probably the case for every new player.
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Regarding elememe again, new mastema attribute is cute. One big hit then 12 multihits. That on top of FC is 46 hits, and DT 10 + possible double pole of agony when needed. It's pretty okay for a c2 class, like fencer 2 used to be. I just have a feel that bugged linker + dt 10 and mastema for aoe will do better at questing (and support swordsman better at parties)
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>>152654404
>you need to ask on an Indian poo design forum to play the game
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Give me the best Enchanter Jew Build
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>>152639458
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What is this I hear that SR needs to be full DEX now?
Is it true?
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>>152654454
I've been visiting the general only still because of all the patches (r8, server merge, etc.) to see if I wanted to play again. I've been in the general just once a week since the start of August.
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>>152654614
If you can't handle a task as simple as clicking on NPCs that don't have minimap icons leading you to them, you'll need help with more than playing the game.
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>>152654529
Skill reset, pay up goy.
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>>152654167

>grinding before 275

Hahahahahahahaa
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>>152654780

>pay up

Yfw free TP from GBL
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>>152654807
>tfw 230 and done every single quest
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>>152654768
It's like saying if you can't handle being stuck in a party quest bug you need more help than just being in a party.
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>>152654679
their skills have high base damage, so criting makes them stronger than STR

unless you can cap crit with gear, full DEX is better overall
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>>152654768
Well after beating Tenet Garden I was 28 then reached 40 after finishing Orsha up to the Novaha Complex. Had to grind those 10 levels to enter the first dungeon. I needed the Mythril for Token/Arde anyways.
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>>152646920
I was guilty of this for a while but finally decided to join one of the guilds based on which had the least amount of shitposting targeted towards it.
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>>152654653
I'm guessing he is going that build, probably Thaum2 then Warlock.
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>>152655017
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Quick, what did they break?
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>>152654870
how did you do 260+ quests at 230?
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>>152655393
my dignity
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>>152655406
Can't do quests i haven't reached the level for it. My point is that i need to grind to unlock the rest.
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Remember to pay your repsects
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>>152655639
F
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>>152655589
>>152654870

>not doing journal kills
>not exploring maps 100%
>not doing mercenary requests
>not doing dungeons when they're in level range

Enjoy your grind
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>>152654929
Exploring is part of the gameplay. The party quest bug prevented gameplay.

>>152655017
>Well after beating Tenet Garden I was 28
Before the last patch I rushed alts to the Chapparition guarding the entrance of Tenet Chapel and they were almost 28 by then. I was skipping almost all of the non-main story quests to get to Chapparition quickly. Someone without a token or team levels would get less exp, but doing one zone worth of quests would make up for that. On the other hand, grinding mithril early is very worthwhile, so intentionally choosing to grind there is smart.
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>>152655639
F
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>>152655815
>journal kill
>not grind

Kek. You don't even have to do those.
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>>152655639
sure you did all? see and pic
>>152655315
>old

and do some >>152655815
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>>152652116
lmfao who
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>>152655854

>not forming a party of 5 with friends and guildmates to clear maps for journal kills in 10-20 minutes each
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>>152655923
>not doing evac parties instead for way more exp
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I prefer grinding and ERPing with other player than quest alone desu
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>>152656012

>prefer mindless grinding to socializing and having fun

Your call.
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>>152655923
>10-20 minutes
>when you can clear the next map within that much time
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>>152654962
Welp, I wanted to go SR, but I have 30 in STR - can I continue like that?
I don't really want to reroll
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>>152647067
>>152646920
>>152654167
>Your guild doesn't even have a Warlock that could spend a few hours powerlevelling some new players/alts while chatting to them and getting to know them and introduce them to everyone instead of everyone forming their cliques and only getting together for GvG.

This is why my guild is alive and yours is dead
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cleric2/kirvis3/oracle/kabbalis/taois
120 con and full int yes or no?
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>>152656254
>powerlevelling
as a new player, i would not want that. as least for the first char
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>>152656254
What's the process for this powerleveling meme, by the way?
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what did he meme by this
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>>152654404
>>152654167
>>152646920
Why is there no dungeon at say level 15 or something? It takes like a week to a month, depending on new player skill/knowledge variability, to get to 50. That's too long for a person to solo. Though this does represent the majority of the game play what with the 2/3 dungeon daily limit kek.
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>>152656460
>how do u want ur r8 family
>JUST
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>>152656460
That build does high small-area pve damage when no elementalists or swordsmen are present.
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>>152656667
>no wiz 3
Nope.
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>>152656602
>>152656460
>>152656667
>i-if i parrot this meme i will surely fit in with rest of cucks!
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>>152656460
What's wrong with that? He can just go necro 3.
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How come so many archers feel good with 9000-10000 health?
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>>152656757
If that build is so good why don't you roll it yourself? Oh wait it's because you're a misinfo agent trying to trick people into thinking shit builds are good.
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>>152640721
Is that chrono on the left Koenig?!
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>>152656810
Range, attack while moving, cloaking.
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>>152653124
Gee, Onii-chan, you wouldn't believe how many Fireballs I can fit in that area.
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>>152656810
with high evasion, 10k hp is more than enough to survive a while
and using cloak to avoid magic enemies on 220+ maps
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>>152656867
nope
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>>152651920
>Tested vs a mob of demon prison 2 with lv 3 and nothing happened, later that day with circling 4 and when divine might was on
2nd demon prison or demon prison district 2? All of those mobs are med sized except for 1 mob in demon prison district 2 which means they only have 2 aoe def ratio or less.
Which means your circling 3 would already have negative aoe def ratio on the med mobs. So if you didn't see anything with circling 3 on med mobs (aoe def 2), then circling 4 + divine might on those same mobs would have the exact same effect. It's all in your head man.
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>>152656867
yeap
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>>152650684
>literally my build from beta
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>>152651920
>>152657210
>I have a lv 4 circling falconer anxI can confirm that the magic missile madness only happened with divine might on dungeons.
Also only bosses have aoe def ratio of 4. So your circling 4 would already have negative aoe def ratio on large mobs or less on dungeon mobs.
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How much dex ellaganos adds?
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>>152656990
>>152657272
Please don't play with my feelings!
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[enchant]Physical Attack +39

or

[enchant]HP + 483?
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>>152657675
hiyo~
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>>152658178
>high roll or low roll
hmmm really makes u think
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>>152658550
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>>152658619

>666
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>mercenary queue pops
>it's just me, a monk and a corsair
???????
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>>152658550
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>>152654424
Who this? Katzenberg?
Cute art anyway
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>>152658789

>monk
>corsair

I hope that you guys are all r5 hahahahha
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>>152658924
I'm afraid not.
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>>152658969

Luck you this scenario with a barb corsair and shit monk at r5 would be suicide indulcing
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>>152658767
what?
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>>152658619
Where are you taking your druid at R8?
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>>152658619
I want you
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>>152658298
I don't understand
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>>152659617
Druid3
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>>152660034
How do you like the look of it?
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>>152660156
Diev3Druid2
Good hybrid support/DPS
Owls right now are very good DPS in static situation like ET gauntlets floor
Carnivory is amazing on single target and can actually compete seriously in WBs, Druid3 Carnivory15 will just get stronger
The other statue like Laima and Sterea are amazing in static defense too, Ausrine is just broken
Only concern with rank8 is Owls DPS but for the rest Druid3 seems a solid choice for r8
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAxume_mmB4

Necro3 on suicide watch.

Seems like the powercreep got Wizards really hard.
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>login after patch
>7 channels down to 5 now in klai town cause everyone is quitting the game
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>>152651496
0s cd or something
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kuiXZHhIA8

>She still soloing the 130 dungeon instead of the 240
>Not making 1m in 45 minutes everyday.

Are you girls bad or something?
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>she needs to "play" the game to actually make a tiny million a day
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>>152661662
>>152661662
>45 minutes is a day
uhmm
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>>152661785
There's nothing else to do so yeah, rushing a dungeon 3 times and then logout makes it a day.
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>>152658825

Yes

There's also this
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>>152661165

>comparing average /tosg/tard with this good player

also

>muh broom traps falls of retards

Yeah, sure.
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>>152660476
how come archer-support, sometimes called necro3, isn't using debuffs and spells?
Only pole from which the boss immediately moves away
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>>152660476
Dirty Pole doesn't do shit on bosses, that guy's retarded.
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>>152660414
Seems like a good build, i like the look of lycan form too. Should provide good sustained damage without relying heavily on owls, especially on flying mobs
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I've seen people say Rexipher card is better than Templeshooter, but what about Mirtis/Helga/Marnox? Do they have cards that can compete with templeshooter?

Mirtis' X lightning seems like it would be fun to use.
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>>152661785
On 6 characters.
Don't forget to saalus also.
Oh and pvp 4 hours + gvg 2 hours.
Maybe you want to add et?
Nice job you have, shithead.
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>>152662697
>Mindlessly doing the same shit every day that you don't enjoy in the name of pointless progress

You guys know you aren't obligated to do dungeon runs and that it's not a race to max your attributes yeah?
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>>152662817
This is an MMORPG, you nigger, so you're obligated to do anything the game puts a daily limit on or else you'll be permanently a day behind.
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Can Fletcher skills be used while mounted?
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>>152662919
MMOTANK
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>>152663029
sure
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>>152638408
I'd buy lenses if there were non-pretentious colors.
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tfw the only good costume for female wizards is the bunny costume. Why did the school and swimsuit ones have to suck so much
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>>152644317
What's your Bokor skill distribution?
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>>152663543
because you're a slut
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>>152663543
Wiz3 costume is the cutest by far.
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Fuck, I'm tired of you assholes. Give me 1 good reason to continue see your faces.
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>>152663543
>school costume sucks
>a wizard right there asking for help

Is she getting bullied or something?
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>>152664093
Well, you don't actually see their faces.
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>>152664392
>she isn't part of skype camera only inner circle clique
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Is Falconer costume the comfiest?
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>wake up, feeling good
>log on
>guild is full of doom
>bee farmers on suicide watch because apparently channels got nerfed
>no buff shops on ch1 orsha
>crush isn't online because busy irl
Just
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>>152665118
>no buff shops on ch1 orsha

You faggots shilled Canelle buffs so hard I started fucking use that cuck shop because whenever I use any other shop I get 1.2k blessing that gives +52 damage. Now he leaves the fucking game and I have to go back to jewdoners.
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>>152664867
Cossack costume for R10 archer will be comfiest!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN7YyaUvupE
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>>152665219
Just find somebody that has max buffs and use them regardless of price, you aren't going to go broke spending an extra 200 silver every 2 hours.
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>>152644317
>seven people in party

Is that bug still a thing, or is this another bug?
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>>152663676
Im assuming something like this

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41144a8e.1a2a33415561.1a2a5575.11243585.21314155617195.1225325261

>>152644317
Yea, thats a good pvp build too honestly. Looks strong in pve single target too which is great and also can do tons of aoe damage with pandemic too. 10/10 would make a cleric out of.
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>>152665961
Nobody has fucking max buffs, people even put "15/15/10" on the fucking spellshop name and end up being something like 8/15/3. I want to kill every fucking pardoner in this game.
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>>152665964
Thats being in another party and queueing in.
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>>152665964
If you enter a mission via queue with people in your party already it shows your current party member as "out" below the temporary mission ones.
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Is murmillo dead or decent?
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>>152666079
Nothing bugs me except the people that don't have maxed attributes. Enjoy your garbage profit you piece of shit, I'm never coming to your shop again.
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Greetings, Saviors

A maintenance is scheduled to take place on 25/08/20167,
The 100TP Event item will be rewarded.
Applicable to those who spent 1 hour logged in on this Sat / Sun
[...]
Character Level is < Monster Level
(Current) : After a difference of 21 levels, the amount of experience gained decreases by 5% per level. If the difference is less than 35 though, you can gain at least 25% of the experience.
(New) : After 20 levels of difference, the experience gained gradually decreases. If the level difference is greater than 51, then no EXP will be gained.

ktos best tos?
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>>152666454
They also nerfed the damage penalty from level difference in a recent patch.
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>>152666454
So, every level after 20 will deduct 3.23% of EXP?

They should fucking can this mechanic alongside with level difference mattering in damage taken/dealt. I fucking hate this with every fiber of my being, old MMORPGs you could fight massive enemies with your party and get actual rewards, now it's brainlessly kill these easy ass mobs because we need to inflate your fucking playtime.
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Hahaha dead game
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>>152667861
No shit sherlock.
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>>152667861
What a clever and original post
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>>152666018
He clearly has zombies though.
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>>152666704
This. In Dofus you took anyone you wanted, what mattered was total level of your party compared to total level of enemy party, and then anyone got experience based on his level.
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>>152666196
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Post futurecuck average online.
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>>152668523
Hang yourself traitor.
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>>152668523
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Database is looking for new friends! We're slowly growing, we're up to 12 players now.

Now and in the future, my most important goal is to make everyone feel welcome and feel as if they are an important part of the guild. When we have enough high level players, we will be doing guild events and if enough players show interest, GVG. No one will be forced to participate in anything they do not wish to take part in however.

If you are interested in joining, please send Cattly a whisper, any level any timezone, the only requirement is that you must browse /tosg/.
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>>152644246
what guild? I'm just starting with a friend and am looking for one
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>>152656515
>It takes like a week to a month, depending on new player skill/knowledge variability, to get to 50.

What the flying fuck. I'm a huge shit and damn slow at playing mmos (being a completionist full of autism) but it takes me only one or two days to get to 50...
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I heard that besides the +10% increase, you can get extra stats from transcended items. Anyone got any info on this? Like what stats you can get, what are the odds, etc?
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>>152669613
Sure ya are buddy
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>>152669274
How will you go about making me feel welcomed? Do newcomers get their welcome blowjob?
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>>152669807
I actually am (klaipeda)
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>>152670140

Ohayou and Database seem to be the new and growing ones if you wanna play with other players who are still leveling, especially if you want to make a pvp build / help in gvg eventually
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what skill from rodel that shinobi can clone?
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>>152669613
You can join Database if you like.
>>152670103
I don't do internet blowjobs, sorry!
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>>152670561
Shield bash and shooting star.
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What are your thoughts on Druid 3? think that werewolf ss would scale at later ranks?
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FiYphmPd5uDSewiRlJAvvV4WoPckvd4dU-RP9CdEwHg/edit#gid=1173731997

>283 Blessed gems needed to go from 0 to 10 on a single item
>that's 2830 blessed shards
>1415 days of Saalus (no reroll)
>or 472 days of Saalus with reroll, 283m silver total
>ASSUMING you succeed every single time
>if you don't, you drop 1 transcendence level
>all this for ONE item

Jesus fucking christ IMC what the flying fuck is this
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>>152671145
Dont queue for 5v5.
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>>152672016
Maybe you're not really supposed to have 5.5x stats on every item?
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>>152670605
There's literally a pic of you giving internet blowjobs to weeabo
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>trying to do hampster dungeon
>have to spam to get in

KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM
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>>152672120
Just like you're not supposed to have +50 items yet exploiters all have them and theres no legit way to catch up to that
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>>152670896
and what murmillo skill can clone? thanks before anon
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>>152672016
MMORPGs aimed at very long playtime and rerolling

seriously, this game is a joke, but the bigger joke is that you subhumans still play it, why havent you killed yourself?
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>>152672694
That's a matter of cheating not a matter of game design. Unfortunately we've got a ekeleton crew staff that will take ages to ban the cheaters.
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Hi /tosg/! Someone can help me build nice fencer skill tree? Actually stuck and have no idea what to do. Highlander or Barbarian? Swordsman C2 or still Peltasta even with % scalling in guardian? And of course what to do in fencer for pure PvE... this game is joke if we talking about PvP
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>>152673427
its either Rodel or Barb

Barb is offense focus
Rodel is defense focus

but it seems like Rodel=Barb when r8 comes, go with Peltasa c2 and dont level Guardian past level 1, damage decrease is 2% instead of 14%
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>>152673636
pelt c1*

sorry anon
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>>152638385
>>152638479
sorry I stop going to the meet ups because it gives me headaches
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>>152673427
go Rodel or Barb fencer, Rodel is kind of future proof as the reason you'd get it will be beneficial to you no matter what rank you are, Barb is too but only for Warcry and Frenzy, all damage skills scale badly, youd basically do it for the stuns
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>>152673427
Pelt will make your life easier with swash buckling for gathering mobs to farm and guardian finally got buffed and is an excellent addition to world bossing and general tanking, those two skills alone are worth more than what highlander or sword c2 would offer you in my opinion.
Barbarian C3 is the best option and it will even allow you to have some fun in PvP.

>>152673636
>but it seems like Rodel=Barb when r8 comes
What the fuck am I reading?
Pretty sure he's asking about a Fencer build, not a murmillo.
Epee stance makes you lose shield stats, and you'll be using that at all times.
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>>152663543
because you get to have a bunny suit, it's the price to pay to have the best already.
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>>152673828
>and Frenzy
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>>152673856
>Epee stance makes you lose shield stats, and you'll be using that at all times.

nope, disables the shield defense only and you can use shield skills with epee
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my memenobillo build
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#1133aaadc.354555.1a2a3565.3f4c5165718a91.253555.114575
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>>152672962
Irony.
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>tfw snipe WBs timer before everyone else
>tfw kill him twice and see how the other people come late and rush around the map looking for it
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>>152673969
I have fencer with barbarian and... Frenzy for High DEX is shit.
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>>152673856
>Epee stance makes you lose shield stats, and you'll be using that at all times.

thats not the case
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I'm gonna be the one and only milofencer
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>>152674105
Not a fencer, but I don't use Frenzy at all. The time I'm wasting AAing someone could be better used by spamming skills
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>>152658969
>priest2
>not priest1 or 3
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>>152674062
Oh my bad, I didn't know defense isn't a stat. I must have missed the part where I said epee disables shield skills, too.
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>>152674217
Let me know when you reroll because you realize none of the murm skills work with a rapier.
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>>152674294
>>152674294
What the fuck? Epee literally disables the shield's defense, all shields skills and stats is still available to you

literally play the game you shitter
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>>152674294
>disables shield skills

lmao, does gae bulg disable spear skills?
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>>152674501
>play the game
>when this particular patch is only available on ktos
This is why this is a bad Memel
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>>152674047
Ironic ERP is still ERP
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>>152674294
>I must have missed the part where I said epee disables shield skills, too.

nice misinfo
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Is it possible to solo/duo the earlier floors of ET now with the new level cap?
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>>152674658
makes one wonder why you kept on pulling information out of your ass, huh?

Epee stance does not disable the shield itself, you only lose the defense, all other stats + gems are still available to you, even shield skills
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>>152674250
>>152673969

So what the point is pick barbarian instead highlander? Some mechanics that further strengthens Fencer damage? Slash I have in both class after all. I understand why peltasta even if you can't use with Gung Ho.
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>>152674783
No, you need 5 people for 4F.
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>>152674828
because of

>muh more damage in perfect conditions


Barb 3 fencers are mainly for the stuns and pounce, those who argue that the main reason they do it is warcry are true shitlords
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Here, /tosg/, I present you: Memencer 1.0.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/4093c2tih3/
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>>152674726
>lack of reading comprehension
Typical tosg shitposter
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>>152674470
NO
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>>152674828
>warcry
>cleave for slash skills
>seism as a stun
Pouncing is alright for normal mobs, but it really shines vs bosses. I don't know how useful barb offensive skills will be at r8, but Attaque Coquille is a thing, so I guess Warcry alone would be a good reason for a Fencer to go barb3
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>>152668057
Yea, i didnt watch the video.
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>>152675060
but it doesnt disable shield skills
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>>152674678
It wasn't ERP though!
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Now I see swordsmen alts in every dungeon and almost each time there is one afking.
What the fuck!?
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>>152674783
>Still doing ET when Manahas set exists
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>>152675228
That post didn't say it did, that's a sarcastic reply.
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>>152674827
>you
>implying
That was my first post on that quote chain. Saying "hurr play the game" when most here can't test for themselves is bullshit
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>>152675137
>pounce
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/10408/
It looks poorly if that makes you move. Why do you prefer this one?
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>>152675135
Why are you happy about that, silly ohayou
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>>152675295
>>152675320
my bad anon
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>Doing a merc mission with a team of 1 fletcher and 4 wizards including myself
>Fletcher is brain dead retarded does not know how to circle bosses
>Lures bosses away from every single high damage spell on the ground
>Fletcher is also from Orsha

Why oh why are people from Orsha so retarded?
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>>152639458
I am going to tell you how much bullshit that you quit only because your computer can't handle this game. If your computer can't even handle this game, what makes you think your computer can handle other better games?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmcbo-0zzpA

If you don't think that this is going to be nerfed, you're retarded.
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>>152675482
you lost on dps race
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>>152675482
>Not just being a cleric
>Tanking, keeping the party alive and doing top dps while being the lowest level

Anon please!
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>>152674828

>warcry = 330 + monster level attack
>cleave debuff = +50% damage slash (barb's own burst and flanconnade)
>seism = big aoe stun 2 oh
>helm chopper = 2oh, aoe stun (strike)

Really, after they killed skyliner, your only loss is Cartar Stroke, but strike damage is not that interesting when your pierce is strong as fuck (100% damage to plate, 150% on leather and 50% on cloth, hence why slash is important).

Epee stance: only pierce matter, so barb at least gives you 4 stuns and a scalling atk bonus. HL only gives you a cute c3 outfit.
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>>152653375
>>152653161
Pyro's horrible if you don't have linker. Pyro2-3 + Linker2-3 is absolutely amazing.
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>>152656153
>not socializing while playing in grinding partys
wew it's like the journal is the only topic you have in common with this weeb perv trannys
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>>152675409
The faster game dies the faster we can leave it behind
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>>152656193
yes that's fine, archer gets a natural higher crit rate anyways

it's not like swordsman who would getcucked out of near perfect crit cap if they don't go full DEX

although those 30 points would have been better spent in CON, but it's fine
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>>152675370
No, you have to move for the skill to hit anything, that's also an old skill footage, Pouncing probably hits as frequently as Cyclone and the channeling lasts for 10s. It's quite easy to hit bosses, either by circle strafing or walking against them, but smaller enemies are harder to hit consistently, the knockback makes it a bit easier. Consumes stamina and you can run while doing it, increasing the stamina usage.
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Are zombies permanent as long as i lay heal tiles?
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How did i do?
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>>152675707
Can you show me some good barb/fencer skill tree? It's will be helpfull.
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>>152676174
C-can I be your friend?
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>>152676174
>Having friends in this game
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>>152676156
alri
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>>152676446
>not having ToS friends, ToS rivals, ToS crushes, ToS BFFs, ToS wives and ToS husbands

Play the game
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>>152675926
And where will people go? Face it, there's a core group here that's tired of WoW and WoW clones.
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>>152676625
I do play the game, I'm unwillingly subscribed to the Kirito lifestyle.
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>>152676446
>>152676798
god, I hate this piece of shit character so much. It's spammed all over the place despite being annoying, fat shit
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>>152676673
You mean RO2?
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>>152676673

Quit MMOs? why cling to a tired old genre that has nothing good to offer right now
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>>152676798
>He fell for the playing the game meme.
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>>152677005
You don't play the game?
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>>152675691
Didn't you quit for Legion?
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>>152676798

Join a guild already, Umaru
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>>152676238

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113666ee.23334554.15243541.5a63718591aabf.112a3a426171

This is my current build but I'm not really sure how I'll spread when fencer c3 comes, they have 3 skills that are surely a 5/5, but we need real gameplay experience do determine if that disarm skill is good to have for pve as a extra burst and if composee 10 can be a thing with alchemist potions lv 15 so killing some points from sept etoiles which has a low scalling besides being a good skill may work
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>>152677080
This child fell for the "play the game" meme so hard he honestly believes anyone here plays this trash.
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>>152676673
We move back to the true MMO.
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>>152676982
Next thing you're going to do is shill Overshit. Fuck off.
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>>152676625
>tfw you gonna marry your ToS crush someday
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>>152677408
>Let's move to a game with even less shit to do.
You're a genius, anon.
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>>152677408
Betty, go fuck yourself
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>>152677095
It's released on 30th
I still intend to play it but now there's also
>R8
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>>152677305
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113666ee.23334554.15243541.5a63718591aabf.112a3a426171

Meantime, I found this build and actually look nice, maybe swap 5 point from Cleave into Pouncing and it will be ok but how would you rate it? http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/oxd1wac6kx/
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>>152677538
There's always shit to do in RO though since there are none of the shitty restrains. My gameplay in ToS is basically: wait for reset. do 3 missions, do a shitty event, do 3 dungeon rushes solo. Maybe do Salus or other shit. Then I log off and log back in two times a day for PvP. I feel that soon I'll be just logging in for a minigame until R8 arrives.

After playing ToS since March I really think about going back to RO. At least before I remember that there are no good servers and the game has it's own share of problems. But "having nothing to do" is not one of them especially if you have people to play with.
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Though about a PVE "dps" but not useless at PVP shield Rodelero - > Murm?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1132aaa8.23334554.15243541.11253544.11213f415165718a91.15253174

>WHERE IS PELT 3

Look, I don't think that even with Murmillo attribute pelt's skills are going to be useful on your rotation, and besides that, on my head at least, Cartar Stroke's 150% 4 hits is way better with High Kick / Slithering debuff than any pelt murm combo that will come because I don't want to commit to pelt 3 so I can have a free ranking to pick Corsair for 2x2 pvp (which I have fun playing, at least farming that daily 50).

Also, with Murms own's skill, rodelero kit and cartar stroke itself, I think that I'll have enough strike damage already for my rotation.

Also, Hook combos with Cartar Stroke to help you reach your target after you land a not so close hook, and dust devil itself can be used to hardcounter catas and rodelero (to disarm rush and cyclone), flag uses is already know by everyone here.

So, any thoughts?
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Why in the literal fuck is everyone pushing wiz3link3 warlock?
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>>152677909
>http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/oxd1wac6kx/

I don't like warcry, it takes too much time to charge it at higher levels (demands more hits) and when you get attaque composee, you'll just spam it instead of charging 20 attacks to get a not so great bonus that don't last that much. It's more a Doppel thing IMO since this bonus works with deeds and shit. Warcry is simple to charge, just taunt and bang, buff yourself.

Also, that guy didn't put not even a single point into helm chopper.

but sure, max pouncing, warcry and spread the rest as you like, but don't overlook cleave, I'd rather took a few points from seism than removing cleave. Remember that cleave has a huge % bonus on stunned mobs, so it's the kind of skill that can net you easily 80k total damage with those three charges damage on cloth monster even on lv 280.
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>>152678354

It's the only relevant futureproof build for wizards.
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>>152678354

>QC
>magic missile madness with hangman's knot negative aoe ratio
>sage bugs magic missile even more
>in case of warlock c2, 10 linked mobs into dark theurge lv 10 = trillions of damage
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>>152678715
A build that will 100% get nerfed isn't futureproof.
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>>152678354
Ele 3 can't kill an entire pack of elite mobs in one cast of a single 30 second CD spell anymore so apparently it's garbage now.
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>>152678821

>Nerfed

They are never going to nerf that and even if they do it's the only useful build anyone can go.
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Do Attendance events still happen
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>>152678620
But they didn't on kToS go afix frenzy and now gonna stack even if you spam skill?
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>>152678715

The fact that you go into warlock2 is counterproof of that.

I can at least see Wiz3 Ele3 Linker2 being a more viable choice, Warlock is terrible
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>>152679216
So, suddenly Ele3Lock2 is not useful anymore?

And if you think that IMC don't overnerf things, just look at Sadhu. Once OP, now the worst class in the game.
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>>152678202
Please. List the things to do in RO. WoE happens twice a day or so. Killing the same MVPs over and over gets boring and grinding is practically the same in both games.

>missions, do a shitty event, do 3 dungeon rushes solo. Maybe do Salus or other shit. Then I log off and log back in two times a day for PvP

Here's an idea: Do shit with your guild. There's the hamster dungeon, party quests and grinding, various raids and GvG.
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This build can not be defeated in single combat. It's futureproof as well as optimal for rank 8. In October, when you see the fencer icon next to the #1 in the arena rankings in both 2v2 and 5v5, you will be looking at someone using this build.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/ddpowvisjn/
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>>152679449
>GvG
5 AM in my country. Everything else is restrained. You do it and then fuck off for the day. And you can't even level an alt since you need to do all those shitty quests again and your friends can barely help you power level.

At least in RO you could keep doing any activity until you are tired of it and not because the game told you that it was enough.You even have the same PvP minigame running 24/7.
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>>152679485
>can not be defeated in single combat
>gets broadheaded and dies
>gets close to a warlock to do damage, dies from DT
>will never kill any cleric with fullcon
>no gapcloser for hook means you basically have to hit it point blank range which means you have to play against retards that don't just kite your shitty ass
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>>152679860
Archers, wizards, and clerics are obsolete in the face of these new swordsman buffs. Everyone will reroll.
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>>152679348

Frostcloud is completely worthless at R8, wasting three circles for a spell that do sub-par damage compared to everything else and miss out on good utility is going above JUST levels of FUCK MY SHIT UP. At least taking lock you assure that you wont die to every average joe in the map cause everything hits really fucking hard here.

>>152679437

Doesn't matter how they nerf it, it's utility that benefits you over everything else available to you.
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>>152679314
The hunting one
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>>152680030
Retarded melee pleb
You will see how useless you are when you still die in raise
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>>152679707
>and your friends can barely help you power level
Do you really need to power level? You can get to r5 in a day.
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>Old /tosg/ had hat hunting fondling activities
>Everybody going along with each other and having fun

I miss those times, no avatarfagging, no dvine edgy sonic hour, no drama and etc.
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>>152680210

Do you play on ktos? Is that the general mentality there?
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>>152674068
Hi friend, thanks for posting this. I have been looking for a murmillo build.
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>>152680473
Haven't seen a single elememe in kTOS so far.
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>>152680420
By doing the same shitty boring quests. I dropped my third alt because I couldn't stand them, I dropped my second alt around 200 for the same reason.

RO was a grindfest surely but it wasn't that hard until the higher levels. And it was diverse, there were tons of places you could go at every level depending on your class/build/equip/party. And if you wanted, your friends could quickyl power level you.

ToS is just and endless hand-holding from start to endgame. Go this map, do this quest. Good, now go here. Now go do a mission but only thrice, you might get addicted to it after all. Then go grind some mobs on this map and then on this one (and grinding is ten times more boring in ToS than in was in RO).
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>>152680473

Yeah, a lot of elementalists are really pissed off.
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I'm doin this

#yolo

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/pynxv6nwyb/
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>>152680472
>hat hunting
>tfw never invited to any of the parties and I'd just run alongside everyone, ultimately getting no hats because NO MONKS
Y-yeah. Fun.
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>>152680275
You'll never get the chance to cast it. In the new world of rank 8, your MMR will be too far away from that of fencers to make matchups possible.
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>>152678821
You said the same about Quick Cast.
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>>152681145
You're right
I'll never be sub 900 mmr on a caster build
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>>152680849
Don't choose a shit meme class next time.
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>>152678620
while we're on topic for fencers, how viable is it to take corsair instead of barb3? fencer3 seems good on its own and barb seems relegated to utility (stuns), but I'd lose pouncing I guess
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>>152679485
>10/15 Gung Ho
>1/15 Pain Barrier
I don't even need to go any further to call you a complete retard.
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I'm literally thikning about taking Rogue1 as rank8 on my fletcher, everything else seems like shit.
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>>152675630
Stay salty.
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>>152680472
>That
>old /tosg/
Thread hasn't changed at all.
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>>152681440
1 Pain Barrier lasts 15 seconds. Since all battles will be settled by one shot kills, that's more than enough. Gung Ho was left at only 10 since there weren't enough skill points to raise it to 15.
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>>152678354
Everyone wants to be me.
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>>152680472
>no avatarfagging
>no drama
you're full of shit
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>>152681907
Gung Ho get 3 (three) more damage each level, there's is literally no reason to raise it above level 3 for the attribute.
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>>152681929
You're a good enough player Vanz and the build is great.
Don't let the haters get to you

Are you gonna go Warlock2 or Sage for r8?
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>>152678354
Because elementalist3 are literally 3 circles for only a good skill that's now supbar and that will be worthless at r9.
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>>152682171

Why would you even bother making a dps class with linker then. Why don't you just reroll into cleric.
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>>152682056
Gung Ho will get % tratment of pelt's Guardian. Screencap this post.
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>>152682401
Are you fucking retarded or something?

Linkers annihilate packs of 250k hp mobs in a magic missile

Just look at this video
Linker is THE dps build for wizards right now because of how well it interacts with magic missile
>>152675630
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>>152682401
Because link + magic missile deletes packs of mobs with ease.
Wiz3link3Warlock2 is not a support build, it's simply the best aoe dps build a mage can make.
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>>152682557
Anything can delete 250k hp mobs under JP
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>>152682557
>how well it interacts with magic missile
u mena how buggedly it interacts with mm, rite?
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>>152682703
And that changes the fact that Linker3 is far superior to Elementalist3 how?
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UNLESS YOUR CLASS BRANCHES OFF TO R8, YOUR DAMAGE WILL SIMPLY BE SHIT. EVEN A FUCKING FALCONER CAN DO MORE DAMAGE THAN ELEMEME SO WHEN YOU BUILD A CHARACTER THINK UTILITY OVER DAMAGE IF YOU WANT TO BE RELEVANT.
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>>152682557
Negative aoe combos was nerfed from circling long time ago, hangman's is obviously going to get same treatment as soon as IMC notices this.
With normal linking the combo will do less than 50k dmg, enjoy your less than mementalist dmg :^)
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>>152682864
I thought a giant aoe hitting 32 times on a 30s cooldown would have never fallen off.
I was so wrong.
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>>152682703
Yeah so?
But only linkers have access to attributed HK you fucking retarded ape

That makes the build the best for its purpose

>>152682838
This is the intended version after the nerfs
Stay mad you cucklord

>>152682930
Circling still works though, they clearly intend to have negative aoe in this game
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>>152682848
It doesn't. Linker is still a support class.
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>>152683074

Sounds good, but linker3 seems excessive. Necro3 seems like a better pick up than warlock2.
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>>152683074
>This is the intended version after the nerfs
LOL
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>>152683380
>Necro3 seems like a better pick up than warlock2
If you're ok in rerolling again once warlock3 comes around then sure.
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GET ONLINE FUTUREKEKS THERE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO KILL REAL QUICK
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>>152683380
Warlocks kit is better for pvp as it stands

But yeah Necrolinker is an alternative that has proven itself well in arena
however Necro3 archers look weak, fleshcannon falls off and we don't know how useful fleshstrikes will be

>>152683405
Keep crying bitchnigga
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>>152682056
>literally
You just explained yourself that it literally increases damage dealt, providing a literal reason to raise it. The additional damage is needed for both big number screenshots and world bosses.
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>>152683074
Where in post did I mention JP scrolls?
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>>152683648
>Keep crying bitchnigga
kys vanhacker
>>
Question anons

Whats the point of putting your guild tower in a specific map? for example theres one in guards graveyard, why? is it possible to warp to your GT and make it so its easier to get Abo?

if I go to a lvl 200 map and use zombify there, would my zombies become level 200 and would they function best if i use them at level 50 dungeon?
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>>152683682
>3 (three) damage
>relevant with R8 skill base damage.
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All these linker shills, you all know that IMC will kill it as soon as normies get wind of the wiz3/link builds and start parroting about them in forums/reddit, right? Where are the misinfo agents?
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>>152683804
You can't transfer those skill points into a rank 8 class.
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>>152684053
That's why you put them in Pain Barrier.
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>>152683930
>IMC
>listening to community input
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>>152681393

It's okay, you'll get a much weaker warcry (which matters a lot for epee stance) but you gain a cute outfit, flag, a semi CC in dust devil and iron hook. A fair trade. To be honest, I don't remember the new warcry formula to inform you how much damage you're giving up in real numbers, but that's much it.
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>wiz3ele3lock is dead
>wiz3link3 is the new meta
Just buy JP scroll
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>>152684092
Pain barrier adds literally 0 damage, which is less than 3.
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>>152683558

I honestly don't expect Warlock3 to be better, the core skills are too shitty for it to scale well into R3.
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>>152683592
The game?
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>>152684383
I fully expect that warlock3 will have a "damballa-like" skill and some summon
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>>152684383
They will literally get dark cloud.
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>>152684243

Unless attributes carry over those scrolls are useless.
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>>152684383
It just needs a r9 version of Frost Cloud.
It's basically a cointoss on what will be better, warlock3 or the new r9 classes.
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>>152684304

you do 0 damage when knocked down

and this happens a lot, trust me. the reason sword 3 is the best pvp guy is pain barrier 17 and restrain. that lv 17 pain barrier opening with durandal is critical.
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Warlock 3 is open to get any kind of skills to make it relevant if IMC wishes so, just look at what fencer got.

Also, c2 warlock is not that bad, DT 10, Mastema is a now mini FC (12 hits), invocation, and they can change some numbers in the next weeks

don't take anything as granted for now
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>>152681649
take Hakapel so you can run to WB faster
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>>152684754
Everyone will die in one hit, so there's no need for a longer duration, and evasion will deal with enemy attacks anyway.
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Does Chapparition card increase MATK based on how much base Matk you have from INT or does it also take the weapons (+transcendence) MATK into account?
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>>152685493
it uses what is shown on your character sheet
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>sitting next to mom's spot, still kind of warm
>confused br hovering around
>"wwere is buff scroll"
my heart cant fucking take this.
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CANNELLEEE
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>>152683728
>>152683728

pls lads
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>>152685457

That's not how the game works

sure yuu may get a surprise double kill with your first ballesta frente IF they don't have that pesky diev 3 (the aoe is small and the dash is shot, also, no overheat), but you're doomed to get close to someone, autoatk until you get a restrain proc, iron hook -> prep -> Fleche and a lot of shit can before that, like stone skin, r7 and etc

also, you land a hook from afar, even on mid-close distance, you have nothing to get closer to your target like cartar stroke after the first ballestra (28 seconds cooldown). If they have oracle/pd, you may not even proc that first restrain hit so you depends entirely on iron hook -> ballestra and we don't even know if this combos works (what if the dash breaks the hook?).


Just stick to the current r7 true duel king: wiz 3 kino 3 warlock full con with very high level attributes. It's tested, approved and ain't falling down because DT 10 / Pole 10 / new mastela is more damage than the HP that you get by going from 280 -> 330 on any full con character.

Magnetic force -> Raise -> DT hug of death + pressure, pole if needed. bypass PD, bypass stone skin, don't give a shit about mdef because of your transcendent superior rod and 60k is enough to tank a full darkness reflect set enemy.
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>>152674726
>>152675228

Holy shit, you're retarded.
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>>152686414
Back when GvG wasn't dead, guilds were all about finding other guild towers and declaring war on them. So putting your tower in a secluded area was a common strategy.
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>>152686414
Before neutrality killed the game, guilds placed their towers in strategic locations to prevent them from getting destroyed along with the resources inside. They could've reworked the system a bit to keep open wars interesting, but crybabies won since implementing a neutrality checkmark is much easier than brainstorming a rework. If you still see towers in secluded places, they're most likely for map aesthetics or legacy reasons.

Yes, zombies are stronger. I did that a lot during grynas torch events (lv250) when my bokor was low level.
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>>152687345

I would like to see a escorted bokor getting a few 230 zombies and teleporting back to a low level map.

lv 10 heal is enough to keep your zombies health from the decaying effect or they will eventually vanish based on a skill timer?
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newfag here, how the fuck do you all niggas deal with this constant microstuttering
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>>152687345
>neutrality killed the game
t.lolicuck
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>>152687941
Deal with it.
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>>152687941

We hate ourselves, join in on the fun! :3~
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Post old gifs
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>>152683074
fuck off vanzel
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>>152687614
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/11501
You only need to be summoned once to unlock the bakarine statue. I never bothered researching heal on zombies since I use them mostly for damballa, not sure if it's bugged since their hp bars don't increase sometimes, someone else can answer this better. I know mass heal works well fine though.

>>152688000
I'm not even in FP, but I liked seeing wardecs and the ensuing twitchchat when towers were destroyed, gave me the feeling the game was alive. Nowadays it's just Kirito vs Jace shitposting.
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>>152688000
we used to average like 15k players before neutrality hit

we lot a LOT of guilds who were in it for gvg
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>>152688360
Anon, this is /tosg/
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>>152687614
You can heal a zombie to keep them indefinitely, but you won't be able to maintain large groups of zombies with Heal alone since one zombie will usually consume multiple tiles since their HP is never full.
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>>152687941
Which microstuttering?
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>>152687941
restarting the client usually fixes it for me
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>>152687941
>constant stuttering
That's just hoe CnL are, it's an ERP thing.
You get used to it after a while.
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>>152689453
>>152687614

Oh, I maybe only with mass heal. Thanks!
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>>152690667
>>152687614
Did it just now

My zombies re 266 and Im at level 50 dungeon, these niggas dealing 500 attack each
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ded
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>>152691153

kek
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How are Cloak+Bleed2Win/CannonBlast+nothingpersonnel archers going to cope with this?
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>>152692204
>tfw just got home from a funeral
>tfw this thread is still the deadest thing I've seen all day
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>>152692517
Buttstroke each other
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>>152692517
They wait for the PD3 to disenchant everyone.

Just kidding, the game won't survive to R9
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How efficient is afk necrofarming if you want to farm items (materials) and not silver?
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>>152692672
>won't survive
That's what they said about R8
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>>152692517
Be hackapelle and shank them with a sword.
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>>152692672
the PD can just use aids gas on them
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>>152692954
Hakkapelle is shit and will never be played except by people like me
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>tfw mafia guild hoppers ask you if there is slot for them
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Who's ready for ebin jukes
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Where can i kill a werewolf?
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>>152693862
217 dungeon
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>>152693862
217 Dungeon and Crystal Mines mission.
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>>152693908
Thanks anon
>>
why everyone wants a ww card, no one plays rogues

>>152693862
217 dg and crystal mine mission
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>>152689984
Ah, that cow sure likes kissing, doesn't she?
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ahaha traitorgarden fell for the wiz3link3 meme
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Tfw guild master summons you for lewd ERP sessions
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>>152693740
just take Kino
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>>152694325
I wanted Klaipedofags to kys
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>>152694459
>>
Spoonfeed me the best rank 8 diev build
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>>152694970
>rank 8
>still taking diev
lmao
>>
>>152694970
diev is shit play the game
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>>152694970
>not going alpha krivis
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>>152694325
But I am the guild master.
I can't ERP with myself!
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>Bokor c3 Druid c3
>Lycan gives you +5k attack
>Henge doubles it to 10k attack, hp to 50k
>level 15 zombify
>17 zombies total
>Wolf zombie train

jesus christ is this the best pve build?
>>
>>152694970

Diev is still useful, hmmm
>>
>>152695645
>zombies
Well it was fine until you threw that in.
>>
>>152693483
And me.
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>>152695645
You deal more damage with wolf skills than channeling a retarded rank 4 one.
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>>152694242
Even if JP+MM gets fixed, those two classes are still futureproof.
>>
>>152695854
>>152695958
Those zombies would deal 5k damage EACH when colliding, not to mention all of them knocks back

if I have 15 zombies, thats 75k 150k with henge
>>
Why sorcerers in Dina Bee Farm are not banned yet? They are using macros/autopot addon to afk all th freaking day.

Wasnt the autopot from willythedoggy deleted already?
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>>152696169
Does Lycan give immunity to channeling interrupts though?
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>>152695645
>>152695854
>>152695958
>>152696169

>gvg
>duel an ally qs
>use zombify on caltrops
>use mack on self
>run through everyone with hypetrain

you cant make this shit up
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>>152695942
my nigga.
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>>152696338
we have very little info about Lycan except the fact that you can use all skills you have during it.

Allowing you to cast spells during that form is a mistake, Bokor3Druid3 new meta

>20 sec invulnerability
>+7 ms
>+ms bonus from bokor
>+5k(10k) attack
>50k hp
>can dash
>lycan has a skill that knocks everyone down
>>
>>152696579
+10k multiplied effigies

FUGGGGGG
>>
https://treeofsavior.com/img2/news/developersblog/20160805/4_db_8rc_druid3.gif

>use link related
>cast hex
>cue in zombie-train, moving at speed of light
>15 zombies deal 5k each
>15-20 sec of invulnerability
>pass through everyone
>go back to safety zone
>spam effy
>cue whine babbies
>"WEREWOLVES SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO USE SKILLS WHILE TRANSFORMED"!!!!
>>
>>152697153
>>152696731
>>152696579
It's physical atk thats increased not matk you mongs
>>
>>152697153
>pain barrier
>>
>>152697332
Hypetrain is physicsl attack
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>>152697332
It increases both, and henge doubles all your stats, plus bwa deals physical damage
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>>152697504
>everyones a swordsman
>>
>>152697876
>Not being the best class in the game right now, Dragoon2

What is your excuse?
>>
>>152649621
>scd

strength:con:dex?
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>>152698187
can't decide the right stats
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Can Hackapell use Fletcher skills?
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>>152698187
I'm pretty sure you meant Fencer3 there.
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>>152698631

Everyoen can use fletcher skills
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Futureproof is recruiting new members. We're a PvP and GvG oriented guild, exclusively for /tosg/ members. We've been around since the Korean Open Beta, and have a lot of experience with PvP on this game. Whisper Lolipan in-game if you'd like to join or know more.
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>>152698957
I recommend any newcomer to not join this cuckfest
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>>152698957
So how many have you lost to ohayou?
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>>152699274
Not that many. He still has Trappe and Rance, and Canelle didn't go to Ohayou when she quit :^)
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>>152699385
t.Trappe/Cats circlejerk

No one in their right mind would consider Trappe a good addition to their guild

Rance maybe, but not Trappe
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>doing quest
>crash during cutscene
>verify integrity of files
>22 files failed to verify
>reacquire them
>45 minutes of redownloading shit
>get back in-game
>do the quest
>crash again

Something is broken since the other computer works just fine, but I can't figure out what.
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>>152699585
Rance will leave FP soon. Pity can only keep him around for so long.
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>>152700228
And nobody would really care since he has zero presence.
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>>152699585
I hope this faggot kills himself now that his waifu has quit.
>>
What do you think they'll do for swordsman R9? Thematically, anyways.
Both doppelsoldner and fencer end here and they're tied down to two-handed swords and rapiers respectively, and there's no previous circles for them to take.
I'm hoping for at least one all-weapon class, maybe something built around buffs or swapping between stances.
Samurai?
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>>152699585
i thought they lived together
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>>152700502
Matador
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>>152700502
Another spear themed class and something random.
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>>152700596
Who?
Trappe and Cats? Maybe, that would explain why they keep astroturfing their circlejerk in the threads
>>
>>152700701
>>152700701
>>152700701
>>152700701

New bread
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>>152700502
Luchador
Fuck weapons, wrestling is where it's at.
>>
>>152700779
Canelle and Trappe you retard, nobody is talking about Cats but (You)
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>>152700895
Then chose your quotes better you braindead retard

Didn't even mention Canelle
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>>152670605
I whispered Cattly with no response
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>>152702513

Whispers are bugged sometimes / maybe he was logged off, try adding Cattly as a friend.
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>>152697153
>15 zombies deal 5k each
thats really not how the skill works you know
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>>152702513
I was making dinner earlier, I'm around now though if you wanna send me a whisper!
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>>152695942
and me
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