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Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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kToS Patch notes are translated: http://pastebin.com/fu4Tx4S5

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=610 - Rank 8 Update Preview
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=616 - Transcendence System
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=620 - Latest Patch notes

Previous thread: >>152500289

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Late September™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Frequently Asked Questions:
http://pastebin.com/z0nHSEjH

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vaivora (바이보라)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
Cute (Merigolds)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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Coffee can buy a slot, there are also inactive slots if anyone is interested
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Have you prepped your goddessfu's big black demon bull today?
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futurecuck is the nu-male containment guild
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>>152566883
I thought dvineposting hour ended a few hours ago
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>>152566883
shhh, nothin personnel kiddo
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Reminder that R10 archer will be cossack!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4USCdWD7Ipc
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>>152566883
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Give me one good reason I shouldn't quit my shinobi I have since r8 completely fucks it over.
protip:you cant
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>>152567775
It's a not Roddel Shinobi?
Well, just reroll
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So now that cards were removed from quest rewards, how do you bokor c2?
They don't expect you to do world bosses at level 70, right?
Do you still get at least one card before R4?
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>>152567775
isn't shinobi+murmillo meme meta?
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>>152566675
I missed you.
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>>152567847
Only if you're a shield shinobi.
Everyone laughed at them when they were suggested as a build, so I doubt he's one.
Look who's laughing now
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>>152566883
How do you tards even fight there.
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>>152567928
>tfw that one tosg autist who repeatedly made thread after thread arguments for it was right all along
and they say /tosg/ doesn't know the game at all :^)
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>>152567997
why not? i'm pretty sure i killed the most people outside of gvg at bee farm. it's a pvp zone in my mind.

>>152568209
it was a one-sided slaughter. that sums up my feelings nicely
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Anons what would be the major difference between


Cleric2Krivis3Druid3

Cleric2Priest3Druid3

I mainly want it to revolve about lycanthrophy, and what about my stats?
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>>152568209
>>152568378
UMMM
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I know what you've REALLY been doing in this general you're all in huge trouble
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>>152568489
err let me add

Ceric2Bokor3Druid3
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Any Falconer C2 around?

Why are guys masochists?
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>>152569010
>I can only play cookie cutters
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>>152569010
I have fun with the class, I don't need all my builds to be META APPROVED, just one.
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>>152536386
>necro
>trash
fite me m8 1v1+skelbros+skelarchers+shog+pet+tower+pole
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>>152569205
>fun
Big word

How do you sleep at night?
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Any Bokorfags here? I have a few questions

>which skills do i max?
>how do i do on both pvp and pve?
>do zombies scale late game?
>how are bokors in general?
>are zombies bad?
>am i futureproofed?
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>>152566883
God damn your autism is cringeworthy.
How can you still post here without being ashamed of yourself?
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Mimics when?
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>>152569567
Not enough treasure chests to fool players
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>>152569567
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>>152569501
>which skills do i max?
The only "always max" skill is Samediveve. Everything else depends on your build and goals.
>how do i do on both pvp and pve?
PvP relies on maxing Effigy, Samediveve, Mackangdal and Hexing. You usually get MVP because you're one of the few cleric classes capable of good sustained DPS from a range that doesn't rely on the enemy standing on a specific spot like a retard. When the enemy has Bloodletting, you play defensively and support your allies until it expires. You're still a cleric, after all.
For PvE, assuming you go the PD/PD2 path you should have no trouble solo'ing your way through R8 with a hexing and effigy combined with plague vapors and incineration.
I have little experience with zombies, it's not very often played in PvE and it's pretty much nonexistant in PvP.
>how are bokors in general?
Monsters in PvP, pretty good with PvE once you become a PD.
>are zombies bad?
Yes, but better than before.
>am i futureproofed?
Yes, assuming you go PD2.
For PvP it's hard to say. Most R8 classes have onehitKO skills now, but you have Mackangdal.
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>>152568814
>>152568489

Supposedly lycanthropy is based on your physical stats, so I guess stats wise you'd want dex since the base attack of the werewolf is very high.

Out of the classes you picked, I think Bokor would be the strongest base for a Lycanthrope build. Mackangdal is 20 seconds of invincibility provided you cancel the end damage with sterea troph, and samediveve is a permanent +7 move speed with divine might.

Priest could be a good base too but Stone skin and blessing, two of their best buffs, scale with Spr very hard, which you won't have since you'll want to keep your max SP low to make SP regen via potions to werewolf take less time. Krivis is more of an Int nuker/support and wouldn't do as well for a lycanthropy focused build.

However you can cast all your skills as a werewolf and people say the hedgestone gives double p.attack/m.attack, so you could still use the werewolf to do typical Int focused nuking.
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>>152570050
>nu-male
It's the autist's favorite insult. It's already strange enough that you actually know the term "nu-male" but why let us know you do? Aren't you embarrassed?
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>>152570050
Do you not have self-awareness at all?
You should be the one feeling embarassed.
Also what the fuck is a nu-male? Can someone care to explain what this autist meme is?
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>>152570193
>>152570246
thank you anons, id go bokor 3, there really isnt no way to summon zombies in tbl huh?
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>>152568489
>>152570246
Bokor is terrible with Lycanthrophy, IMO.
Lycanthrophy is full of low/no CD skills. You're better off relying on persistent effects from other builds (buffs, statues, ground AoE) rather than a class that already revolves around spamming a no CD skill. Wasting 3 ranks for mack and samediveve alone seems like a huge waste compared to what you'd get from going Diev3.
If you still don't want Diev3 for whatever reason, I'd still pick Priest3 over Bokor3.

>>152570529
You can throw pokeballs that summon a zombie and have like 27 sec cooldown or something. Unreliable.
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>>152570246
Yep on hedgestone:

"Summons a Henge Stone that increases the level of land deployments cast around it.
It also doubles the Physical Attack, Magic Attack, and Max HP stats of druids while they are transformed
Cooldown: 27
Duration at Lv5: 11.5 seconds"
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>>152570640
>>152570246
>>152570193

can you use damballa and throw pokeball on it? if you have level 15 zombify and all of thsoe zombies spawn at the damballa, wouldnt it explode with 25k+ damage?
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>>152570945
It's one zombie per pokeball. At best you could use it for an AoE knockback, but damballa's damage is terrible with just one zombie, even if it spawns more from its death.
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>>152571036
where do i get pokeballs though?
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>>152570656
>doubles max hp
>full con druids
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>>152571134
Bokor master(s)
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>>152571160
can i get away with 1 hex and 1 eff?
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>>152571257
>literally your best spells
>can I get away with 1 point into them?
Are you retarded?
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>>152571257
Nope.
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>>152571310
>>152571323
does it mean that I have to specifically max both eff and hex? or only eff?
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>>152571415
You don't have to max either, though it's generally advised to max Effigy.
You just can't leave them at level 1 and expect them to be useful. Hexing's duration is specially important in PvP, but shouldn't be neglected in PvE either. You have to remember it's actually pretty easy to resist hexing from stats alone.
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>>152571636
thanks lad, really appreciate it
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are you legit retarded to play this pile of shit gook mmo with 2 fps, animation lags and insane exploits that are not even ban-worthy according to IMC?
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>>152571257
>>152571415
>>152571636
Hexing also gets +1 AoE Attack Ratio per skill level
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>>152572328
I stop playing when the event rolled in.
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>>152572328
I have fun :)
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>>152572939
it's also a mutant table
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Klaicucks playing when the population is literally less than a private server, how pathetic are you guys
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>>152569567
Right here >>152572939
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if i turn a red truffle into a zombie, is the zombie as strong as red truffle?
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>>152573882
Not everyone lives in Pinöylånd anon.
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>>152574232
It becomes twice as strong.
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>>152570656
>>152571135
That will probably be a thing for gvg/tbl. Carnivory has high base damage as is and wolf attacks look strong as well
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>>152574232
Zombie's stats are based on the mob's level, not the mob's stats.
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There is a character simulator for TOS? The in game one at TP shop is horrible.
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Is open GvG still a thing? I hardly see any wardecs anymore.
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>>152575198
we're boycotting it until we get more than 2fps
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>>152569919
Sorc1 is just a filler class.
Kino2Necro is futureproofed.
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What's the difference?
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>>152575878
Demonas sounds cooler
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>>152575878

Ohgmar gives +30% strike damage against leather.

Demonas gives +30% slash damage against plate.
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>>152572415
>>152571636
>>152571310
>>152571323
appreciate it anons

40 con and SPR vs INT? last question anons i promise
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Database is looking for new friends! We're slowly growing, we're up to 10 players now.

Now and in the future, my most important goal is to make everyone feel welcome and feel as if they are an important part of the guild. When we have enough high level players, we will be doing guild events and if enough players show interest, GVG. No one will be forced to participate in anything they do not wish to take part in however.

If you are interested in joining, please send Cattly a whisper, any level any timezone, the only requirement is that you must browse /tosg/.
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>>152566675

No
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>>152576275
Hidden stat? How did you find out about it?
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What is the fastest way to get the White Hair?
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>>152569205
>>152569186
Enjoy the game Falcucks. SRs are the best AoE archers while Falcons are extra baggage. At least monks can heal.
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>>152576765
>Enjoy the game Falcucks
Thanks.

I hope you enjoy the game as I'm enjoying it.
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>>152576765
Who needs aoe archers when circling + magic missile deletes entire ET waves on a lower CD than retreat shot?
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>>152576672
It's just not translated properly. Just check the KR version.

It's like it's your first time playing tos.
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>>152576706
be a fletcher
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>>152577056
B-but I'm a wizard...
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>>152576425
>mfw Ohayou has more members than Database already
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>>152577161
Well you asked for the fastest.
For any other class farm corpse hands and make Zalia Leather Boots, you can buy the recipe from npc. Costs like 100k total to get it so keep that in mind.
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>>152576706
Zalia boots recipe from the blacksmith.
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Post alchemist c3 vids.

The new magic missile looks like pure garbage (charged single hit) with attributes costing hundreds of gorillions of silver to level.
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>>152577285
Good for you! It is not a race, I am happy with the members we have.
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>>152577285

You guys better do GvG it's fun

Maybe I'll even join
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>>152577563
Well, we are the better guild after all so it's natural we get more members.
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>>152577637
We already secured us a free win yesterday

Also the new map is way better imo,
though we didn't really have a fight there.

Currently just waiting for a couple of our members to at least level up
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>finish a mission
>everyone is saying ty to each other
>I say "you're welcome"
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>>152577723
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>>152577786
>everyone quiet the whole run
>we finish
>someone says ty for party

the fuck are they thanking for? the carry?
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>>152577786
I should start doing that too

>get 1st place pretty much everytime unless there's a wugu/fletch
>tank the boss too and make it stay in place the whole fight
>direct the party around to stack the bosses properly for more efficient dps
>everyone says ty4p
>say nothing because the others barely did anything in the first place and I carried them
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>>152577959
Thanks for putting in effort you retard, how hard is that to understand?
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>>152577786
that is alright.
you carry them. they thank you.
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>>152578097
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>>152578392
>Fedimian
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>>152576909
>magic missile
Not an archer skill. 2 SRs will be faster.
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>>152577786
When I say TY I mean thanks for queuing in this dead game so I could get my daily done
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>>152578554
you welcome buddy. i dont mind to carry.
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>>152577637
ehehehehehe
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Who /swordsman/ here

I can't wait to fuck wizards and clerics shit up in arena with r8
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>>152577786
>Be Fapper
>Always in 3rd or 4th in DPS
Of course I'm gonna thank them for the carry.
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>>152578740
can't wait to fuck up your whole team up with incinerate while i'm literally invincible
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>>152578720

D:
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>>152578740
delusional meleetard
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>>152578654
r u a gurl?
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>>152578720
Man, I wish they would remove that [North America] shit already.
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>>152578097
I had a mission the other day as a full SPR paladin at level 130. Two archer and two swordsman. I tanked, healed and was top damage. How can people be so bad at this game? I just don't understand.
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>>152579396
>Remove North America
I agree.
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>>152571636
>>152572415
What would you say is the sweet spot for Hexing?
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>all this nightclub tier music
There isn't a single redeeming factor about tos, if it wasn't for the RO nostalgia goggles this game would've crashed and burned on release.
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HELP
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I liked Ragnarok Online. Will I like this game?
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>>152580407
No
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>>152580278
>capyba partying with azebu

disgusting...
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>>152580407
Depends if you valued mechanics or audiovisuals more.
Mechanics - no
Audiovisuals - yes
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>>152580407
They are quite different but there's no reason you can't like both.
I like Ragnarok, this and WoW for their own merits.
Games are games.
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Daily reminder that Kupoles and the Goddesses are evil
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>>152580753
Does it change the fact I would spread my D across all of them? No.
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>>152580753
>All new items have Holy Resistance
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>>152581031
>what is pvp
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>be wugu3 falcon3
>circling overwrites your 1st poison with another one which means you don't get 2x damage only 1x

Ahahaha topkek.
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I legitimately don't understand why scout3 discussion dominates the entire archer sub forum on the ToS site.

It's like some asshole just decided to make an extremely detailed and autistic guide on his pet build, and every dumb fucking shitter decided to roll it because it was such an in-depth guide, when in reality the build is pure dogs hit when it comes to doing anything besides dungeon clears.

Now you just have a legion of scout3 retards trying to justify their build and convincing other new players to roll their terrible build as well.

What in the fucking fuck
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>>152581320
That's what you get for not going the route of the beastmaster.
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>>152581127
>Wugu3falcon3
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>>152581320
>>152581612
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>>152581567
Hunter2 Scout3 has potential for PvP.
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>>152581567
>I legitimately don't understand why ToS discussion dominates the entire /vg/ sub forum on the 4chan site.
>
>It's like some asshole just decided to make an extremely dead and autistic thread on his pet game, and every dumb fucking shitter decided to play it because it was such an annoying thread, when in reality the game is pure dogshit when it comes to doing anything besides shit posting.
>
>Now you just have a legion of ToS retards trying to justify their playtime and convincing other new players to roll their terrible game as well.
>
>What in the fucking fuck
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>>152582259
No one ever convinces anyone to play this trash heap though
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sup goys, has this game improved at all since the buy in beta?

Is trading still shit?
is the auction house still shit?
are bosses still camped by elitist guilds and no one else can get shit?
is pvp still shit?
is lvl 200+ still a shoah in terms of quests?
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>>152582992
all of the above
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>>152582992
Yes
Yes
not that much anymore
Yes
No
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Anyone else get dc frequently?
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>been doing Saalus 5 days in a row now
>not much money so I don't really reroll on the blessing cubes just yet
>just want to have 10 shards so I can have my first trancended item
>2nd run of the day
>dced at the last minute
>now at 9/10 blessing shard

I was really looking forward to it.
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>>152582992
Outside of potential system, no.
10% tax is the only issue now.
No one can't get shit because damage evaluation is fucked now.
It's fun if you play a good class.
No.
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Awww yissssss
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>>152583567

wait there's jtos now?!
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>>152566675
What's the lore behind this?
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Can we take a moment to appreciate the best player?
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>>152583378

>well fuck Saalus I'll just do the hunting season event
>silver anvil as reward
>ooh, if I can't trancend my weapon today maybe I can upgrade it for fre-
>fail
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>>152583650
Yeah and there is R8 there already!
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>>152581320
I TOLD you not to play wugushit
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>>152583784
sure
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>>152583650
Open Beta starts on Wednesday, you can predownload the client.
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>>152584071
I like the discord one more
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Any of the guild leaders on?
I'm playing pretty casually but leveling with no one to talk to ingame is pretty boring.

Just let me know which guild and I will contact you, thanks.
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>>152584123
Yeah the first one was the best
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>>152582074
you really dont need scout 3 though, if you're using hunter you're more or less telling people where you are anyway
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>>152584237
>high3
hop2 drg2 or no invite
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>>152584123
I didn't save it.
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anons havent tried going cleric before, where do i put my points at clerc 1 and 2?
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>>152584336
That's not true.
t. hunter
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>>152583846
Not yet, r8 at end of open beta.
iToS and jToS gets rank8 the same day
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>>152584359
>>152584123
>>152584264

I thought the IMC one was better. Maybe I should do /tosg/ bingo next.
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>>152584448
Max heal, cure, divine might. Rest in safety zone, maybe one in deprotect zone and fade if you want.
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>>152584459
shoo shoo azebu
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>>152584353
No thanks, I don't want to level a second swordie for PvE
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What stats should I aim for with SR2?
I know that kTOS players go for 440-470 STR and 220-250 DEX with equips, but where should I put my points?
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>>152584686
What?! How?!
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I decided I really want to make a Linker FF today but I'm kind of stuck on what I want for R6

Should I go Necro for FC and Necro Decay to stack with the FF Decay? Is Necro Decay different from the FF Decay in anyway? I heard they stack for some reason

Or is that too gimmicky and I should just go Linker c3? Everything dies too quickly with the broken JP so its not like I need the higher hit count, and Linker C2 has always been enough in my grind parties.
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>>152584679
thank you anon, i still cant grasp what exactly is cure for? I know it cures status ailments but is the damage from it good?
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>>152584914
mad deeps
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>>152584914
Yeah you will actually end up mostly using it for damage since it has a high number of hits and is holy element which a lot of enemies are weak to.
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>>152584870
That's a decent build I think if you want it for pvp
PvE you rather want link3 still
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>>152584914
>>152585010
Also has one of the best stat scalings in the entire game.
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IF YOU DONT GO WIZ3LINK3 YOU ARE A GIMP FOR WHEN R8 RELEASES. OTHER FUTUREPROOF ALTERNATIVES ARE WIZ3LINKTHAU3.
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>>152585421
>Thaum3
>futureproof
I agree on the rest though.
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>>152585241
What do you mean?
>>152585010
>>152585005

Is this bokor build good enough? i kind of want zombies and eff
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>>152584237
Whisper Cattly, I can invite you to Database if you'd like.
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>>152585537
>i kind of want zombies
No you don't, believe me.
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>>152585504

>Ignoring all of that MAtk, INT and boost from trancendense
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>>152581567
Blame dreamy's shit theorycrafted build

At least all those retards who fell for his meme didn't roll fletchers or SR and thus there's less competition in pve
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>>152585617
but i do anon, I have 2 r8 ready toons already, and I just want a goofy/fun toon
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Feels nice after weeks of setbacks and invisible arrows, we finally got our first grown hamster
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>>152585946
>we
>clearly yours only
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>>152585421
>tfw Wiz3Link3FF was the most futureproof Wizard
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I saw a Centurion class master in Forest of Prayer. Is this a hidden class or was it removed from the game? Doesn't show up in skill builder for neet/tosbase.
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>>152586351
Yes.
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>>152585421
>>152586350
>Featherfoot2's self-explosion is MaxHP based
>mfw went full INT with Swell Brain, Transpose, Levitate, and ALLAHU AKBAR
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>>152580105
If Bokor 2, 10 hex 10 effigy 5 samedi 5 mack is the best approach.
If Bokor 3, 10 hex 15 effigy 10 samedi 10 mack is the natural progression.
Sacrificing skill points for zombies is a mistake in my opinion, unless you're a PvE-only carebear or something.
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>>152586351
It was removed before iCBT2, though you could still take it by abusing some bugs.
They plan to add it back at a later rank since the class is designed for supporting large parties and there's currently no content where that's relevant other than maybe Guild Battles.
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>>152585946
>Cake is alive
holy shit, what do you guys do? how many members do you have?
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>>152587146
too bad they fixed the transpose bug

does recasting transpose still reset your hp to its original value?
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>>152587753
Last time I checked, it did. The transpose bug was overkill anyway, I can already get over 70k life with just my own stuff.
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>>152587204
Well what do you know, I am a PvE-only carebear and want some zombies. What now?
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>>152587514
We are pretty much doing Hamster runs, and preparing for R8. We have 13 members so far
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>>152587753
The issue with transpose is that its a buff so its susceptible to getting bumped off by retard teammates or it will just get dispelled by PD2 and you're suddenly 8k health
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/Bullies/ when?
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https://soundcloud.com/spadow/where-is-the-silence

This is probably the best part of R8.
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11 burgers and 40 fries until jtos

what are you rolling and why?
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>>152588742
Rolling ur mum cuz she can't walk
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>>152588742
it's going to end up dead just like ktos heck most of them japs already played ktos and went back to ro
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>>152588595
That is indeed great.
Which map uses it?
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>>152588040
That sounds pretty comfy. We plan on doing the same for hamsters once we get out tower up one more level. I'm happy to see that Cake is still alive and here!
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>>152587990
Different person here, this is my zombie Bokor build.
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>>152588969
Ruins of the Capital
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DISCONNECTED

ARE WE DATABASED?
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>>152588742
by the time you even hit R8 in jtos since you're starting from scratch wtihout even a token, r8 would be out in itos, whats the point?
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>>152588595
I think you mean Over the Clouds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxWXFzf0Udo
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>>152589046
Good luck anon
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>>152589119
how are the zombies 200+??
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>>152589309
RARE
A
R
E
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Any spell shop Pardoner in here?

I'm going to quit the game soon and I would like to gift my Sacrament and Aspersions gems to anyone willing to take care of them.
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>>152590276
CANELLE NO
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>>152590276
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>190dg run with no healer
>be link1
>dumb cata wanted rush
>say how about no
>slowest run of the day
>fletcher desyncs all over, cata's useless too
>clear 5 mobs by myself
>meanwhile 4 of them struggle on 5 mobs
>dumb cata swash on mage mobs
>after 40mins finish the dungeon
>they say TY
>like /tosg/ mentioned, say you're welcome
Fucking carried useless shits
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>>152589451
They do well enough against enemies that don't spam CCs or AoEs.
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>>152590474
should i bother with large zombie att? or just wheelie?
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What should I do at level 154? As a monk. I have no idea how I should be leveling (where to grind I'm assuming) and I want to hit r6 before the end of today.

Also, looking for a guild to join!
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>>152590786
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I don't like this shit on Fedimian
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>>152590786
If you'd like an invite to Database, whisper Cattly. Also, I personally just recommend questing and doing your level appropriate dungeon and mission.
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>>152590786
Cute!

Quests, missions and dungeons(if you can stay awake)
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>>152588969
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>>152590593
It's up to you. I use both, and though I rarely get any large zombies due to how rare large mobs are the extra CD doesn't bother me too much with 15 Zombify and most of my zombies tend to come from Hexing anyway.
If you didn't know, if a zombie gets the killing blow on a mob affected with curse, it spawns another zombie.
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>>152590786
CNL has a few spots whisper plasmagica
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>>152590276
Why are you quitting?
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>>152591493
>CnL
>recruiting more boys
for what purpose
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>>152590786
If you're in to hard gay porn and anal devastation, join Database.
If you like PVP but are shit at it join futureproof
If you like roleplay join CnL
If you're a boring normal fag join any of the others.
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>>152591735
Honestly, if the hard gay porn and anal devastation is optional, Database looks to me the best choice out of all of these.
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>>152591965
but your templar admitted to sucking dicks
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>>152591735
holyshit. when did guild recruitment get so intimidating.
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>>152592062
I don't see what sucking dick has to do with what goes on in my guild!
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We need more boys to post in the thread
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TFW ohaiyou make you feel sometypeofway
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>>152592332
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>>152592332
turning into a giant has its benefits~
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>>152590276
i'm making a pardoner, and will play forever. can even give them back to you if you're gonna come back, are you on klaipedia?
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>>152592426
There seems to be one of those for every occasion. How many are there?
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>>152592498
Cute!
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>>152592563
Hmm, I'm only willing to give them to an already established Pardoner C2 and yes, it's on Klaipeda.
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>>152592332
I liked lalaco when he was a boy.
Now he has disgusting cowtits.
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>>152592571
Lots
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>>152592062
Please don't use my favorite Ohio to shitpost.
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>>152592738
This is not cute.
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>>152591735

or you can just join Ohayou
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>>152592918
What are the cons of Ohayou?
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This shit sounds like I just stepped into Miami's most renown gay club.
https://soundcloud.com/spadow/tornado?in=spadow/sets/tree-of-savior
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>>152593002
It exists
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>>152593002
looks pretty good to me.
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>>152593002
No con! Only Ohayou!
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>>152593002
you have to Ohayou post in every thread
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>>152593002
/clique/
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>see a few CNL in town
>there's a heart eyed cow in heat going around kissing all of them
I don't know if this guild is for me.
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Fucking secondaries.
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>>152593002

Pros:
- OHIO
- cute
- Probably more active than than the other guilds despite having less members
- Baethoven is the leader
- buzz buzz
- Winning in GvG

Cons:

...
???
- you might get bullied for being a Monk
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>>152593594
>- you might get bullied for being a Monk

only if you're already super cute AND carry arena
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>>152593594
Add erp with Evergarden.
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>>152593534
but if you like cute anime like dog days i think cnl is the best guild for you
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>>152593897
but you can but ERP with 3j in the PROs column
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>>152593534
Honestly I'm put off joining for the same reason.
It's kinda cute at first seeing them all having fun with their little erp cow.
But after a while it gets annoying and seems more like attention whoring.
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>>152590474
that 300 damage from zombies make is sound like 300k HP R8 mobs will be ze death knell of zombies and damage will be mainly with PD's help
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>>152593219
/kill/
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>>152594386
Zombie stats are proportional to the mob level they're turned from.
R8 mobs also hit like trucks.
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>>152594363
If you want a non-autistic non-circlejerk guild I suggest Clover
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>>152594363
It's not attention whoring. Just stop looking at them and their erp cow, pervert.
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>>152593002
>joining a guild named Ohayou
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>>152595389
desu I wanted to be named Konbanwa
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>>152594386
It's not that bad for a fun minion build. She didn't use Ogouveve in that screenshot I think, which makes their bites scale from INT. Weren't we supposed to get the 3x stats patch too?
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>tfw joined ohayou a few days ago and so far everyone has been cool and have offered to help

Honestly, if this is the extent of circlejerking i dont think you guys know what one really is
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Why would they make me kill something this cute?
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How the fuck do people stay commited to a single character or continue grinding? I've made literally dozens of characters and none of them have gotten past 160. It's probably because I'm super bored from grinding quests or missions or the boring dungeons (110 and 145).

If i join a guild, will it be easier? I won't be so bored if I have someone to talk to since I've been playing solo all this time.
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>>152596280
Wait til they go about distributing hamsters and GvG TP

You'll be the one with the short-stick everytime
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>>152596441
>yfw EG is getting everything
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>>152594928
Sounds nice! Is there some formula somewhere for zombie stats?
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>>152596379
How do you not at least level the character to r6/r7. that's when builds usually start getting good
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While we're on topic of zombies, how is this skill distribution?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#444.162a3146516175
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>>152596351
>cute

take a closer look
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>>152596657
Well, that's kind of my problem.
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>>152596351
Boys are NOT cute.
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I think I'll join CNL but I have to make sure they didn't let any males into the guild.
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>>152596351
tfw i still dont know how to do this emote
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>>152596280
The fuck do you even need help with in this baby ass gook game faggot?
Do you get 3j to hold your dick while you piss or something?
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>>152596379

Klaipeda?

I'll level with you if you want, pick a character you'd like to get to r7 most, hopefully one that does decent damage (or has linker) to help carry my support-ish cleric through quests faster.
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DONT LOOK AT MEEEE
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>>152597146

Everyone in CuteNotLewd is a male, silly
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>>152597236
Nothing at all, hostile anon.

People have offered leeches or to run dungeons. Even though i dont need the help its the gesture.
>>
how far do the new map quests go?
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>>152597236
RUDE
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How come meleecucks managed to become the new wb meta?
A ranged class like fletcher should still be able to dps more in practice (less downtime running around, less knockdowns, etc).
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>>152596928
I wouldn't recommend a build with zombies and not be bokor3. You lose a lot from not having ogouveve and damballa. Zombie train is only good for farming in demon prison.
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I came back to this game recently. I'm nowhere near the level cap. What Klaipeda guild should I join?
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>>152597458
>a guild like that
>anyone but cute girls who play TOS all day in their pajamas
Pull the other one.
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>>152596379
I have the same problem anon expect I never make it that far. My highest is 80.
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>>152594386
I don't think Ogouveve was active when I took that screenshot. Usually with Ogouveve active they deal somewhere around 500-700 per hit for me and there's up to 19 of them hitting fairly rapidly.
That said, the damage is really not that amazing and you shouldn't be expecting to top DPS charts or whatever but I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as people make it out to be.

>>152595849
We should have gotten it, but we didn't. I compared zombie damage and HP before and after the patch and then again just recently and there was no change.
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>>152597236

Not that anon or in Ohayou but there are tons of ways guilds can help their people get where they want to be or whatever faster:

- Powerleveling new characters to skip <lv 5 card quests
- Carrying people through dungeons (especially important since queues are pretty dead now, and with the silver increases you just set loot to individual and they get their time's worth)
- the overnight afk bee leech meme

to name just a few
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>>152597783
Up to a 323 map, there are only 3 maps without a quest at the moment
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What if that new canon kneeling shot skill works with running shot? At least the atk speed part?
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Should I take Diev or Priest on my Monk? Cleric2 atm.
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>>152598080

This, anyone who's been in CnL discord knows the guild is full of actual cute (not lewd) grills.
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>>152596379
>bored from doing same quests, missions and dungeons
>makes more alts to suffer the same fate
I see where's the problem. The core of most builds comes online once you reach r6, pick a viable one you had most fun with so far and main it! Also, subjective opinion but joining a guild motivated me to level up faster once I saw everyone doing high level stuff, so there's that.
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>>152598571
Ohayou just got 2 new grills!

One of them is even brown!
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>>152598372

Cleric3 so people stop complaining bout heals
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>>152598571
After seeing those cowsplay pictures there's not really any room for doubt.
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>>152598242
Can you get to 320 from 280 without grinding?
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>>152593219
Ohayou's a clique?
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>>152598242
the quest database stops around grynas for the fansite, is that just not updated?
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>>152598934
ANSWER THIS!!!!
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>>152599037
>CnL has voice chat and a discord clique group
uhhhhh
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>>152598934
>>152599109
I reached 300 with cards, but a good amount of the new maps gives really good exp and has decent spawn.

This map (https://tos.neet.tv/zones/3290) seems like a popular korean grinding spot
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>>152596280
stop posting and go back to work
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>>152598069
You'd be welcome in cute. It's meant to be a comfy social guild, which is drama free with no requirements to participate in GvG or talt donations. If that sounds interesting, whisper Majiene or Merigolds.
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>>152598954
That's literally the foundation of the guild. They're good people, but it's a guild born of another guild's clique.
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>>152597146
what if I'm a boy but I wear panties with lots of ribbons?

doesn't that make me a girl?
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>>152599890
No, but it makes you suitable for cock.
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>>152599242
>tfw you get cosplay pics and lewds without actually being part of the clique because you ERP with one the inner circle on the regular.
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>>152598069
Pretty sure every guild is recruiting, just whisper any of the guild leaders to join. Futureproof is supposed to be much more focused on PvP and i think the rest of them are just kind of used as chat rooms
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>>152600081
can somebody please post lalacow's cosplay pictures already
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>>152600108

Uhhh

>>152578720

hello???
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from what you've seen so far, which are the classes more suitable for solo grinding and farming past r8?

I know there's still a lot of balancing happening, but fletcher 3 seemed to be too op and and people claimed it would be nerfed and it never did so....
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>>152600145
Lala's pics are not even that good honestly.
I could name drop who the real cuties are but why would I.
I'll keep them to myself while you keep chasing the cow.
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>One person asks about guilds
>thread devolves into guild metaposting and even further into shitposting

Every time.
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I-I'm a new player who just hit cleric 3... I'm looking for a guild that needs a healer please...!

Thank you!
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>>152600598
is she at least thicc?
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>>152600670
I'm not even looking for a guild, I just pretend I am because it's fun watching the shit show unfold of everyone stumbling over each other to get their hands on a new member.

I swear this is the easiest general to troll.
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>>152600959
I'm not even in Ohayou
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>>152600959
>HE WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED
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>>152600904

If you're serious just add/pm leaders and ask them about what their guild's like etc. I'm sure plenty would love to have you
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>try zombies
>circle disappears before I can kill enemies
>enemies constantly run away from it on low health
>need to keep up 8 to match my damage
>gotta heal them
>hexing keeps getting resisted when they almost finish pummeling enemy to death
This is the last time I asked you fuckers for advice.
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>>152600670
>>152600904
>>152600959
>>152601238
>>152601285
>>152601473
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Why are the Klai guilds so desperate for members?
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>quest boss summons shitty Slow totems
>get Slow debuff
>kill boss
>Slow debuff doesn't disappear

Uninstalling.
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>can put regular xp tomes in team storage
>do hunting season bullshit
>get limited duration xp tomes
>can't put limited duration xp tomes in team storage

What the fuck am I supposed to do with those fucking things at 250+? I get more xp grinding than waiting on missions and my alts can't use them. Fuck you, IMC.
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>>152601975
Thanks for the update. See you tomorrow.
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>>152597146
>wanting to join the guild that houses the most cancerous, retarded attentionwhore monk and an equally cancerous attentionwhore cow
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Was it a mistake to roll Cleric as my first character? I want to go full support but auto-attacking enemies is taking ages.
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>>152601965
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>>152601965
I've got a member for some cute guild leader
(Are any of them irl girls?)
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If Hitler played this game which class would he be?
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>>152602161
First characters should be QS3 SR so you can make money from 130 dungeon, farm mats and be able to fund whichever other character you prefer.
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>>152602152
At least koenigger had the excuse of being drunk all the time.
What's the cows excuse, just plain retardation?
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>>152584870
Link3 for longer hangman knot in pvp
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>>152602161
go like 1 Con : 2 SPR and buy a set of cafrisun armor, once you get 15 blessing and sacrament you can pretty much kill any monster till 200 in 2 hits. Then at that point you just party for the rest of the game
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>>152602528
Thanks. Are there any guilds recruiting on Klaipeda?
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I been avoiding meme builds since the beginning of the game trying to be a special snowflake, but I always end up dissapointed.

I just want a cookie cutter effective (borderline OP) build of any class that will get me easy farming, wanted in groups, not full support cuck with no damage, I don't care about pvp at all.

Any input appreciated
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>>152602572
hangmans knot never works in pvp tho
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>>152577161
Alchemist
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>>152602363

Plasmagica is an IRL girl come join CuteNotLewd
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>>152601772
It gets easier once you start getting more points into Hexing and Zombify to increase their duration. Divine might is also very helpful for those early levels.
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>>152602518
PD
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>>152602572
my PvP char is a cancerous Oracle PD, I think I'll just go Necro, it's more fun to have more options.
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>>152602619
be a linker3 chrono3 like a good fag
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>>152602612
all of them.
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>>152602612
>Thanks. Are there any guilds recruiting on Klaipeda?
cnl whisper plasmagica
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>>152602161
>>152602528
While a QS3 is not an absolute necessity, getting a DPS character first so you can farm mats/money/solo dungeons is extremely important.
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>>152578720
>unsullied
>loss

Guess they be sullied now
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>>152602363

Lolipan basically counts as a real girl.
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>>152602619
a2qs3sr3 should fit all that
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>>152601965
Because they are a bunch of small dying guilds instead of just one big dying guild.
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>>152602619
Elememelock
Necro
Sorc
Necro Sorc
Linker Warlock
QS3 SR2
R3 SR2
R3 Fletcher 3
Doppel 2
Dragoon
Fencer 2
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>>152602703
Awesome thanks.
Looking forward to creeping on her already.
See you orbiters soon.
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>>152602935
Ohayou is growing in active members every day
It's the opposite of dying
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>>152602704
Are you pulling my leg again?
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>>152602897
Lolipan is interesting. I think so many people dislike him because he's just so... distanced? Is anyone ACTUALLY friends with him or just cordial? He's a nice guy, he's friendly, but he's just... I'm sure most of you get what I'm saying. It's like he's RPing as a leader instead of just being himself and leading wholeheartedly or something.
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post best 2hander build and best fencer build please
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>come back from work yesterday
>game is running like complete shit, basically unplayable
>huh that's weird
>restart game
>everything's fine
>go to bed
>wake up
>game is running like complete shit, basically unplayable
ToS has a new memory leak or something. The performance goes to complete ass after the game's been running 9 hours or so, it didn't used to be like this.

Any of the bee farmers seeing this?
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>>152603262
Sword>High>Barb3>Fencer2 or Dop2
Can switch between high and peltasta. Peltasta is better for Fencer than Dop.
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Ippiki are you here?
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>>152602358
Don't post that. I'm going to have nightmares. 0/134 now.
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>>152603328
every single time and lowering graphic settings don't help it'll still be like that 9-12 hours later
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>>152603245
It's called being a boring cuck with no personality

That is also why the passive-aggressive beta circlejerk likes the guild so much. They don't feel triggered by an alpha guildleader in there.
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>>152603473
dvine please, your alloted shitposting time only starts 2 hours from now
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>>152603352
Yeah whassup
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>>152603352
>Ippikek
Back to /xivg/ with you. Actually, dvine seems to have the same mannerisms as him so you might be in luck.
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>>152603646
Not dvine, just saying how it is
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>>152602924
I thought limacon buff negates qs3?
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>>152603682
Stop the lies.

Tosg couldnt handle true drama
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>>152603646
dvine cant use capital letters
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>>152603197
No.
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>>152603994
>Kabbagelist
post build
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>>152603994

Those horns can't be trusted
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>>152603994
does wheelchair zombie actually have better stats than normal zombies? or is it just cosmetic?
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>>152603104

Welcome aboard anon-kun
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>>152603780
>Limacon buff
>+1400 damage to your auto attacks with your gun
>replacing QS3 with super didel grand cross
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>>152604169
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>>152602363
you should come join cute!
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>>152604363
you have a templar now?
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>>152603734
I'll be utterly frank with you
I thought Ippiki was dvine so I figured I'd poke the waters
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>>152604129
sanic speed tzombis
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>>152604436
we do. for about a week now!
haven't been online much due to moving, but that's all situated.
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>>152604169

As fast as QS3, more damage than QS3 and it hits more than 2 monsters.
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>>152584768
Pls help!
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>imc made your beloved cute underrated class OP as fuck
>every mafia retarded is already rerroling
>you can't compete with people who already banked up money to push r8 attributes to 80

this game
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>>152605160
>SR
>underrated

burn alive you sack of trash
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>>152605160
R8 enhance are pretty cheap, though
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>>152604119
Actually, Red Horns are one the purest, if not THE purest head accessory that can spout from your head.

You can definitely trust anyone who wears them.
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>>152605160
Which class do you mean anon?
Fencer?
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>>152605419
That's cow headband!
Don't lie!
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>>152603994
Thanks Kabbalist, my greatest ally.
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>>152605443
He said 'cute' Anon
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>>152605594
Sacré bleu! Fencer is cute.
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>>152605701
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>>152604092
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4114448f.1a25355565.1527314f5161758595.324155617195.113545516181
I made this long before oracle-kabbalist became FotM for PvP.

>>152604129
They move faster and their attacks deal strike damage.
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>>152605525
>Trusting herbivores
Those niggas'll eat your salad the moment you look away.
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>>152605443
>>152605594
>>152605701

Fencer, of course. The cutest.
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>>152605034
so QS>SR is garbage?

I want an SR but ranger is boring as fuck, sapper shit doesn't work mounted... there's no other way?
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>>152605525
>headgear that's ERP incarnate

ohyaousgaspingNO.jpg
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>>152605883
Wugushi
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>>152605594
>fencer
>not cute
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>>152605883

why not a2 for swift meme
followed by ranger 2 rogue 1

can you use feint barrage mounted? snake hit works mounted? if yes, now with WW cards, I can see this working
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>>152606025
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>>152605883

QS3 would be useful if limacon didn't had 100% uptime.
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>>152606226
>ranger 2

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>152603349
best stats for pve?
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>>152603197
>>152603994
https://youtu.be/zKwH5IlQv08
Zombokor is fun, I promise.
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>>152606226
The only skills that work mounted for rogue are sneak hit and evasion. Everything else forces dismount.
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Fresh off the KGC.
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>>152603349
Why do people want Barb3 in their fencer build?
Isn't skullswing better?
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>>152605883

Ranger has really shit skills but that Steady aim is really good.. especially with the recent power creep.
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>>152606313

>he don't know the slavcute olga
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>>152606742
Barb gives more utility and is also marginally easier to level
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>>152606702
He beats his mail bride?
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>>152606702
you think we care about this why?
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The new serpentine attribute says it affects physical attacks and not just melee. Is this true?
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>>152607193
"mistreating"

Sounds more like he's being a passive aggressive bitch while she cheats on him
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>>152606742

4 stuns, 500+ atk bonus from warcry (now that the uptime is amazing) and cleave burst is not bad at all. Also, fencers weakness is cloth mobs (they resist piercing attack, so you only deal 50% of your damage), and barb's slashing skill covers this fine.

Fencer 3 new stance will lock you into piercing forever so your warcry from barbarian is the best hting you can bring from your lower rnaks to improve your dps.

Also, since they act as a tank too with a single single of peltasta, having barb's 4 aoe stuns overheats also helps your job.

A option is barb 2 corsair 1, you get a shit warcry, no pouncing but gains dust devil for cc and flag+hook.
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>>152607081
>Ignoring warcry
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>>152607610
Keep in mind physical attack doesn't really matter that much in R8, it's all about skills with absurd base numbers.
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>>152607582
>>152607610


Isn't warcry based on the number of monsters you have around you?

Isn't Fencer built for bossing now?
Wouldn't you want to have more dps than "utility"
I just think Skullswing is way better since high level bosses have absurd def values, you just get Barb1Highlander3Fencer3 for tip top single target dps
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>>152605883
With the recent R8 powercreep noone cares about low rank skill damage anymore. Now you take any lower circle that can boost the new shiny R8 skill and never look back

This is also the main reason why cleric in a good position, almost all of their support skill will stay relevant forever
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>it's a /tosg/ theorycrafts episode
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any videos of that cannon 2 siege stance?

is it as OP as people expected? or shit?
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>>152607898
>Attaque Coquille
>[Physical] - [Strike] Attack an enemy with the guard of your sword. The enemy's defense is ignored when attacked again with [Pierce] attacks.
It has a duration of 5s with a cooldown of 8s, plenty uptime to do your things.
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>>152607825

My friend, fencer 3 will be locked into using piercing skills because of how broken epee stance is (imagine running shot working for skills as long as you crit). and Fencer already has a much better skill ignoring defense: Attaque Coquille. Lower cooldown, 100% uptime at lv 3 with Venier. Forget highlander. The only thing that skull swing will do for you is increasing the other party archer's damage.

Warcry is better with more mobs around, yes, but it works with traps and other stuff like icewall and etc, it's not that hard to get a +180 atk boost from a boss alone.

again, nothing in the early ranks gives you mosre raw atk/damage to boost your fencer's skill, except weapon swap hoplite (spear lunge) and the not so great stabbing.

While Spear Lunge is great, it demands you a rotation of spells that is not that practical to use:

Attaque coquille -> equip spear -> cast spear lunge > swift to rapier > cast epee stance > cast preparation > cast your dps spell.

I can see this working in a WB hunting party with a pardoner cleric (discerning evil to prolong your spear lunge's debuff), otherwise, just stick to barbarian
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>>152608352
its shit senpai
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>>152608424
>I can see this working in a WB hunting party with a pardoner cleric (discerning evil to prolong your spear lunge's debuff), otherwise, just stick to barbarian
A WB party will most likely have an Hop3/Dragoon anyway.
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>>152608424
Thanks dude, barb sounds definitely better now

Since you seem to know alot about fencer, are you able to apply the crossguard pierce debuff properly through weapon swapping or is that a lost cause too?
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>>152607898
This. Elememes are on suicide watch.
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>>152608757

You can but frankly, the game don't want you to use this properly.

Evasion rolls before block so you need to NOT evade an attack to have a CHANCE to block and proc the super stagger debuff. It's cute when it works, but very hard to pull. On a very high str plate armor build it works, but fencer 3 screams for dex, just forget highlander.
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spr gives you mdef?
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>>152607898

>shiny new R8 skill

I ONLY HAVE ONE

I hope it'll be enough
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>>152606492
4str:2dex:2con
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>>152603349
isn't sword 3 like a must for all dps swordsman now?
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>>152608709

Just imagine Hop 3 Doppel Dragoon 2 high str + Fencer 3 high dex, pardoner + chrono linker 3 for stats sharing.
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>>152609320
I have zero hopes this will be relevant. They're throwing us a bone, but it'll probably be better to save the points for Templar C3.
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>>152609320
>deals quadruple damage in PVP and GBL
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>>152609320

This shit seems to hurt with cleave's debuff
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>>152609605
Don't forget a musketeers buttstroke
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I expected nothing and im still disappointed
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>>152609456
>con
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>>152609589
Why would it be? Spear lunge and Cleave exist.
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>>152609771
>fixing the dungeon entry problem is nothing
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What would make Highlander relevant again?
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>>152609995
Skyliner
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>>152609964
Guild missions and party questing will break again.
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>>152609964
IMC will find a way to fuck even that up
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>>152606618
>fast forward to 10:00 minute
>zombies nowhere to be seen
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>>152609964
its probably not even fixed, it'll just make more bots show up
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>>152609918
did you not see the new bosses being rolled out with 2 billion hp?

are you seriously neglecting con?

are you kidding me?!
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>>152609456
So, 2str:1dex:1con?
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>>152609964
It's not even fixed. I took me 30 tires to get into a mission yesterday evening.
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>>152610379
8str:4dex:4con

get gud fgts
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>>152610020
Never ever 0 CD.
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>>152610482
Those patch notes are for the maintenance in 6 hours. They aren't already implemented.
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>>152609320
It'll be at least 3x better than alchemistic missile.
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>>152610360
Did you not see all the new gear with con?
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>>152609320
>1h;x / 2h sword only
rip spears
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>>152610995
Katzenberg was right all along
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>>152610805
Please don't remind me, I haven't recovered from that depression.
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best costume collector archer build

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#314289ef.15244551.1545..14213545.152535.112135455162.15243145
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>>152611213
I just have to wonder if the people in charge of r8 ever played the game. A single hit spell for r8 is just pathetic. It's not even instant cast. Fucking energy bolt does 2 hits and knocks back.
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>>152611257
>flare shot 5
>barrel of 4

uhmmmmmm
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>>152611383
Oh and it can't even be given to homunculus. Glad I stopped believing in the alch meme before I put too much time in mine.
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>>152607898
Soon every build will be sword/archer/cleric/wizard 3.
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>>152611383
>he fell for playing the game meme

fucking neck yourself loser

nobody that is smart enough to develop a game is dumb enough to play this shit
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>>152609715
That would make it not pathetic. Though still, considering how many immunities are at play during pvp/gvg, it's still nothing.
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>>152611529

barrel overhated as fuck outside of pvp, also, skill caps at even on divine might
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>>152610031
Where can I get images like that?
They seem fun
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>>152611837
reddit
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>>152611837
Someone posted a link with 100+ of those images on /jp/ once.
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>>152612474

Do you need talt anon?
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>>152612474
fuck off ahmed
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>>152612583
http://imgur.com/a/1mwn6
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>>152611837
Kanker
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Is alemeth + onward new questmaps enough to push me to r7 job 3? I don't mind grinding a little bit, as long as I'm at r7 at least. Currently I have cards enough for R6 job 14 15%.
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>>152611837
This artist drew a ton of these for whatever reason.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=4325914
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>>152605883
Ranger is needed literally for steady aim anon.

Power creep is real. 15% or 20% extra damage is going to be huge as fuck, you need it. Imagine rank 10 when 20% is an extra 200k damage. You'll be regretting taking something like wugushit who's poisons will always stay basically the same damage
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>>152612596
pls
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>>152612583
>/jp/
OUT
GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>152612835
Is album downloading broken or something?
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Seeing that rank8 is getting added has there been any major changes since April? Is the game any better now?

Does it still run like shit?
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>>152613585
Kim saved the game!
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>>152613585
>tos
>run
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>>152609320
>killing one those lil knights
Ahahaha
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>lolipan gets autism mad that a 0 con pve build trying to get 50 points can beat him just by using a barrel and holding down Z

That's genuinely hilarious.
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>>152608352
Literally the worst. Cannon2 is pretty much trash except for blowing up magic circles and causing blind. The damage is lacklustre as shit
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>>152611383
>slap a generic magic bolt last minute
>not reworking awakening+briquetting into transcendence
They probably never intended for the class to be good or viable. It was most likely conceived 7 years ago (dev blogs) during the initial class brainstorming but became a neglected child halfway through, only keeping it to fill the class quota.
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>>152613679
>>152613738
Can I get something other than memes?
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>>152614281
4u
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>>152614281
Refreshment?
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>>152612583
>>152612835
Thank you!
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fuck IMC, just insta-lost yet another TBL because I got bugged in loading screen and had to relog, this is the third time now.
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>>152613765
post logs
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>>152609995
Attribute giving 50% more crit damage instead of 50% more crit atk.
Reduced cooldowns/increased charges on Skull Swing and Moulinet.
Increased debuff based damage scaling on Vertical Slash to 50% or completely reworking formula and making % per debuff based on your str, let's say 1%/3 str or something.
Buff bleeding somehow or make Skyliner bleeding bonus also scale with str.
Maybe make Catar Stroke plate bonus also increasing with str.

Biggest disadvantage of HL is lack of really good scaling on top of other limitations like "lack of shield". Barb gives 50% debuff to cleave that will always be relevant as long as you'll be getting slash attacks, lot of stuns that will probably work on enemies regardless of levels while HL has scaling only on Cross Guard, his Skull Swing has long cd with 1 charge, but even this doesn't matter that much because fencer pierces def and Doppel gets his own def piercing skill. Not to mention barb works well with every class you pick later and doesn't share circle with pelt which is often considered mandatory for swordies to taunt.

Unless HL gets scaling or higher level monsters get fucktons of def, barb will alwas be in better position. And even then 1 charge with long cooldown is not enough for farming or questing.

In fact, every class should get scaling with stats to prevent skills dropping off later on. I think it'd be possible to make it such way that as you're getting new skills, your old skills with stat you can get on that level do similar damage to new skills. To use this system for so many ranks you'd have to give bigger stat multipliers and division by level for low rank skills and the opposite for later ranks. That would solve many problems, including mass rerolls on every rank update because your old tricks will still work the same way, you'll be just adding more tricks on top of the ones already in your posession. Well, at least it would limit rerolling a bit because this system doesn't affect synergies.
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>>152613991
LEVEL 10 CANNON SHOT

CANNONEER C2 ISNT SHIT!!!!
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I just noticed that the rank 8 post has nothing about Shinobi rank 2. Whats that about?
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>>152616275
Hidden classes only get one rank, anon.
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>>152616275
shinobi 2 is a hidden rank
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>>152616321
Oh okay. Good thing I didnt pick it. Im still not sure what to make my bad build swordsman take for Rank 7-8. My build so far is High3-Cor2. Thinking of cor3 for more Jolly roger but dunno.
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How are sorcerers handling the r8 powercreep? Seems like they got the worst of it, having shitty scaling while being a class that finishes c3 at r7, and I'm guessing sage can't clone their summon either.
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>>152616275
Shinobi c2 is so well hidden not even the devs managed to find it and put it into the game
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>>152608463
Does it stack with Running/Kneeling Shot? Improved by AoE attack ratio?
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>>152616072
Ahah everyone talks about lock getting cucked but that's only because elememe was the meta. Archers are cucked way harder than elememes except for sr3 and maybe musket depending on how that plays out. But cannon2 and fwee3 are both pretty fucking shit compared to othe r8's
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any room for improvement?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/1x7erlun32/

Are you sure about 2str:1dex:1con?
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>>152616025

luck, highlander 3 barb 1 > Barb 3 HL 1 already for doppels, the only thing that saves barbs is warcry. highlander is okay, but I agree with some str extra scaling on their debuffs
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>>152616627
>"I don't play the game" the post
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>>152616669
drop some helm chopper, grab 10 warcry
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>>152616831
Tell me anon, what archer build is able to deal with 250k hp mobs? Include R8 in your answer
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>quickcast is OP muh 50% damage boost!
Barb1 (50% slash), Rode3 (200% strike), Murmillo (50% strike), Dragoon2 (100% melee), Doppel3 (50% slash), Fencer3 (+100~160% crit damage), Taoist (50% melee), Musk2 (100% physical or missile, not sure which one yet), Monk (50%? Strike), Falconer (75% chance for physical attacks to hit twice).

Look at all those non-magic buffs. I've been saying all this time that QC was required for dps wizards to just be competitive, but now they've been completely BTFO as I expected. Literally fucking reddit balance.
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>>152617108
qs3 everything else is gravy
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>log in
>qt crush joined a top guild to ERP for talt
>log out


I heard that 145 dungeon instance gives better silver than 130 now. Anybody here to confirm?
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>>152617108
which builds can deal with 250k hp mobs easily?

plz list them all I need to reroll my shit class and can't make up my mind
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>>152617213
Mobs anon, with an s as in there is a group of 7 mobs all with 250k hp that are coming at you at once.
>t-that won't happen, just don't take on 7 mobs at once
It's a quest
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>>152617268
did Evergarden quit Ohayou and climbed yet another stone to get some handouts from Kirito or something?
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>>152617337
Y-you know you can move and shoot at the same time right?
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>>152617274
https://youtu.be/YXg1IApsH50
Plague Doctor 2
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>>152617274
wiz3link3filler2
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>>152617337
Hunter C3 Falconer C3 is a literal god for the 8th district quests
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>>152617274
Look at cleric and sword r8s or wiz3link3whatever
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>>152617154
Those are all debuffs, most can be blocked by Dispeller/Oracle/plague Doctor. Not to mention thye don't have nearly 100% uptime. Quickcast is a buff ON YOU, it works on everything and under all circumstances. And has 100% uptime.
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>>152616627
Are you joking ? The new Siege Burst skill from Cannoneer C2 can clear one big area packed with magic circle, safety zone and other nasty stuff in one clean sweep. It also erase any debuff from you allies.
Cannoneer C2 literally the counter meta for zoning cleric/wiz

>>152617274
>which builds can deal with 250k hp mobs easily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5YdHSxXQkU
Look at 0:51
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>>152617563
Magic can't crit. All those physical buffs can multiply crits. This is precisely why dragoon/fencer are top tier now and elememe is fucking trash.
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>put down captured magic circles
>other rogue captures them again
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>>152617456
Not against mobs hitting 2k with magic.
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>>152617665
MOVE FASTER!
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>>152617154
At this point I'm starting to see the wiz3link2Necro I've started making as basically debuff support build
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>>152617665
Hold hands with a chronosage.
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>>152617732
You can at least still solo mob with wiz3link2.
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>>152617639
Elememe is trash becaused the content got powercreeped, not because of scaling. Quickcast IS fucking retarded and needs to be nerfed. The difference is that now, instead of being used with Frost Cloud, people will use it with R8 spells instead.
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>>152617620
>pvp only
Why you gotta bring in pvp into this, it was already mentioned that that's what cannons will be good at. We're talking pve vs mobs with 250k hp. Don't even bring up lmao70k cannon blast. Because that's the only damaging skill cannon has.
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Database patch soon.

Say your farewells and get ready with your special friend at the meetup.
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Can I quest to 280 now?
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>>152617983
>wizard
>having any scary damage R8 spells
Please
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>>152618042
No
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>>152618020
DATABASE
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>>152618042
Yes. Don't ever bother stopping to grind in Evacuation or Alemeth or anything, they're all bad memes. Pop all your cards as soon as you get them.

You'll hit the 280 mark purely off questing now.
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>>152616627
What imc needs to do with cannon2 is give them an artillery attribute that adds an overheat on top of all their skills.
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>>152612918
I went from 217 to 258 questing and little to no dungeon/missions. Could probably hit 265ish with the zones I have left without fighting stuff that's more than +5 levels above me.
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>>152617983
Even with QC 100% uptime +50% damage wizards were never the best dps in the game, they were simply the most convenient/useful given the aoe mobbing nature of pve, and this is literally just one single build, the elememe build. Fletchers still wreck any wizard build on single target damage right now on r7. Take away QC and they're utter fucking trash. QC is the only thing keeping wizards from not being a full support class/tree and it doesn't even boost them to the top, and now with r8 that edge has been completely negated.

You really need to play the game my man.
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>>152618394
Thank you agent smith. Your work is done for the day.
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why is everyone sucking link 3 cock, isn't link 2 almost as good and leaving you room for a much better build?

I mean 2 targets is worth a whole fucking rank? because lifeline is shit, people break it all the time and the uptime is meh.

Instead of link 3 I could go something like wiz3>link2>chrono3 and use pass for more JP usage instead,and go at high speed and still be able to deal a lot of damage like those link 3 videos no?
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>>152617983
What wizard r8 spell plus quick cast is overpowered, exactly?
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>>152616690
HL3barb1 has an edge for doppel mainly due to skill point savings. Doppel has many skills worth maxing or getting high so all skill point saving you can get is huge help. Deeds 15 will probably be free 50% on top of 100% with drawback, Cyclone is still great, Redel and Zucken require at least lvl6, then 1 point enablers or getting some skills as high as possible. Skull Swing saving points on Sturzhau is blessing, even though it looks like not many monsters reach 400 def right now so for a while Sturz will be better with 2 charges.
Besides this HL gives Doppel 2h sword attribute (but HL1barb3 gets it as well so the point is irrelevant) and Cross Guard. That's all. Well, and I guess Catar is superior to barb strike skills.

Still, it shouldn't be constant extreme swing between 0cd Skyliner, 50% slash debuff and again buffing damage to make one or the other class better than the other. IMC should have added stats based scaling insetad of giving 50% bonuses. Actually, now that I think about it, 50% crit damage buff I mentioned in previous post is also bad idea unless we aren't gettind rid of cleave 50% slash and maybe double crit fencer, or moving these bonuses to C3s so they would be class flavors.
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Question about hammies.

Do hammies dies after they grown? I heard someone saying that their lifespawn was 1 month or something because you can't feed them, is this true?

I play with 3 other friends and we're planning to make a guild just to get hammies, but we don't know how they work, everywhere has some misinfo.
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>>152618854
based misinfo agent or complete retard
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>>152618854
>HL3barb1 has an edge for doppel mainly due to skill point savings
What.
You can't use HL's point for Doppel, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>152618760
Because you'll literally take an hour to kill story bosses solo without an r7/8 dps class as a wizlinker, and if you wanted to just be support in the first place then you wouldn't build wiz3.
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>>152618854
Most R8 mobs have 1k+ defense.
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wiz>cryo>linker2>sorc>necro3

enjoy
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>>152619043
Sturzhau is poorsman Skull Swing. If you have Skull Swing, you don't have to spend 5 skills points on Sturz on doppel.

>>152619113
Then tosbase isn't updated or I checked wrong.
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>>152619256
enjoy what? being shit? nolol
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>>152619256
>I want to summon shit scaling minions powercreeped to oblivion in r8 and really only be a walking joint penalty
good build
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>>152619327
>tosbase
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>>152618969
>Do hammies dies after they grown?
no
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>>152619406
It'll clear dungeons fast and with a shield won't care much about magic mobs.
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>>152619581
r8 dungeon mobs will be even stronger than regular r8 mobs which already have 150k hp minimum

you're kidding yourself if you think that shitty build will clear dungeons fast in this shitty game with shitty summons that have shitty scaling
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>>152619784
You stupid? We know that, I'm saying it'll clear low level dungeons fast solo for silver.
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>>152618969
They used to have a limited lifespan, but they changed that
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>>152613183
Wugushi and other multihit classes will remain relevant until at least rank 9 because of the transcendence system. Non scaling buffs and non scaling attacks that don't have multihits are the ones that will become obsolete.
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>>152619913
Meanwhile a real build will be farming r8 mobs/dungeons fast for way better silver.
>calling others stupid while shilling a garbage build
You know what, go ahead and roll your original snowflake build. I won't try to stop you.
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>Buildshaming
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>>152620258
If you're not an optimized meta meme build in this game you're literally trash.
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>>152620084
Don't forget it won't be limited to 3 runs per day.
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>>152620387
Say that to my secretly overpowered hunter rogue build kid
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you guys actually think they aren't going to balance out the classes after a few weeks of having only 3 builds work

>inb4 muh wizards doe
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>>152620258
>he didn't take pelt for swash
>he made monk
>he has costume collector wizard
>he plays wugushi
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>>152620387
>your meta meme builds become trash
Highest form of vindication. I'll be denying you eleshit c3s any parties.
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>>152620959
shut up Koenig
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>>152621034
They didn't do it while we only had r7 so why would they do it for r8?
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>>152621074
>he didn't reroll into a fully futureproofed build immediately after seeing how true IMC balance works
Name of the game is picking supportive lower ranks to boost upper new ranks which will only get more powercreeped.
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>>152621330
or just roll any cleric c2...
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>17k frostclouds
>20k magic arrows
Are people really delusional enough to think that a few burst r8 skills can compete with the massive multihit DPS of the two metas?
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>>152621413
Equal amount of funding would produce much better results on actually good r8 classes.
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>>152621413
>17k damage for 4 seconds

woah...so this is the power of elememe...

burst builds are the way forward
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Do we know anything about enchanter bombs yet? Can I finally perform acid demonstrations or will they be another piece of shit like alchemistic missile?
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>>152621413
>Reversi
>Enchanter's Scrolls
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>>152621516
Highest funding actually produces better results on anything that has more hits.

This is because transcendence is a thing, and you can get weapons that get almost as much skill base damage as these r8 skills do while the bursty ones just get some diminished returns.
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>In exchange for three priceless materials found only in the depths of hell at <1% drop rates, my client will give you...
>ONE LEVEL 9 EXP CARD!
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>>152621413
>even a meme pally3/inquisitor is hitting 90k on 3overheat godsmash without even having the extra physical buffs to strike or melee attacks

kek
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>>152621160
But that guy isn't me! I don't even call people "kid"!
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>>152621663
There's a limit to how much personal damage you can gain though. The question is can you get enough to offset the ridiculous base damage advantage the new skills have.
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>>152621513
Enjoy crash within few first loadings. Usually it takes 1-2 loadings for me to crash the game when this happens.
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>>152621630
>Enchanter's Scrolls
Post that webm of a scrolled pixel of agony @ 70 dmg per tick
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>>152622316
I meant Reversi Scrolls silly. I still remember the buttmadness when people discovered for the first time you can use Reversi to steal WB contribution from Fletchers.
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>>152621719
>90k
You mean 9k, right?
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>>152621719
what's a pally 3 supposed to get at rank 7 before inquisitor?

Nothing seems worth it after the oracle "change" nerf. Just fuck it and go pardoner to sell scrolls? or is there something that will actually benefit the build?
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>>152622316
Reversi keeps the original caster's attributes of whatever you use it on, moron. All it does is change ownership.
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>>152622474
No I mean 9
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>>152622551
>hmm cc immunity from pd or 7foldskill for pvp autowin....guess i'll go pardoner lol
retard
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>>152621413
I can crit that much with my cyclone 5, without having to resort to 7 cards at all
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>>152622551
Pardoner to sell scrolls and Discern Evil all the sexy swordsman buffs.
Pardoner is gonna get you invited to every form of endgame content in this sword-centric meta.
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>>152622551
Pardoner has increase magic defense which synergizes with barrier.
It also has indulgentia which is extremely valuable in PvP.

Otherwise just get kabbalist for infinite SP/double HP/r7x or PD for bloodletting and healing factor.
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>>152622703
But can you hit 30 times on a 5s CD?
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>>152622685
who gives a fuck about the shitty mini game that runs at 5fps and gives miserable rewards?

looks who is the retard fucking his build just to brag about nothing, enjoy your 1 hour a day queue just to get butt fucked by bugs and fletchers
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>>152622819
Nope. No one has to if they can simply burst their way to do that much damage
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>>152622474
no, 90k, watch some ktos videos

>>152622551
the ktos guy had 1circle of monk for some filler melee skills

you can go whatever you want pretty much

i rerolled into a monk>inquisitor cause paladin skills seem pretty deadended, can get your conviction+smite to hit for 20k or so but not that great desu
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>>152622886
You forgot your image.
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>>152622474
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5YdHSxXQkU
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>>152622886
PD literally counters fletcher you fucking retard. Literally play the game holy shit.
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>>152622886
>build inquisitor
>don't pvp
So you want to be basically featherfoot except restricted to magic mobs? lmfao neck yourself
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>>152622976
Unless they're a scout fletcher and just wait for the second your BL is down.
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>>152622976
Yeah it's not like their cloaking outlasts your bloodletting or anything.
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>>152622976
again what's the fucking point, oh yeah 400 days for some shit panda

>I'm going to play this game for 400 days
>waste 1 hour a day of my life in this miserable game for some imaginary pet
>muh gem abrassive

no thanks, stupid pvpers don't belong in build topics
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>>152622961
>90k on 3 overheat
so you meant that she had to use all 3 charges to even do 90k damage, okay
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>>152623109
>>152623120
Because you're restricted to only using PD skills in pvp.

I get why you faggots are so salty about pvp now. You got rekt by some memetcher once then never played again, and just pull delusional shit out of your ass to shitpost. KYS

>>152623168
Your claim was wrong. That's the point. Don't move goalposts dumb cuck.
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>>152622954
paranoid retard
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>>152622961
Overbuffed overmemeed overquipped overattributed non-realistic video
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>>152623195
blind or just retarded?
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>>152623437
but 17k frost cloud ticks are realistic right?

elememes on suicide watch
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with alchemist c3 out, which build shall i choose?

wizard3 - linker2 - alchemist3
or
wizard2-linker3-alchemist3
pls respond
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>>152623242
no you were proved wrong many times already you just don't accept it stupid cuck

>bloodletting lasts forever and people can't just wait it out
roflmao kek

also
>Roll a paladin for pvp

Yeah if I wanted to pvp I would do a real pvp build anyways why the fuck would I tryhard with some r7 just for pvp when the rest of my build doesn't help it at all.
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>>152623669
>wizard2
useless
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>>152623686
>hey guys what to pick for *******inquisitor*******
>PD or kabba
>LOOOL PVPFAG WHY EVEN PICK *************PALADIN**************** FOR PVP
You're barely worth a (You).
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>>152623815
im well aware, however im not enlightened on how the alchemist c3 minion works and i was thinking maybe it could be given lv15 link?
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>>152624059
you realize you could pick pyro or cryo instead of wiz2 in any case right?
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>>152623669
Wiz 3 Linker 2

there's no reason to run Wiz 2
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>>152606702
>Numalelite is now having made-up drama with his imaginary wife

There are other ways to seek attention...
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>>152624059
there was a forum thread about how it works. by that addon guy. i dont have it bookmarked.

>>152624151
>pyro or cryo
are shit too
>>
How long have you been playing /tosg/?
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>>152624317
alright thanks, i thought maybe with the new alchemist3 skills that lv15 link might be of use to the minion or something (idk anything about alchemist3)
i know wiz2 is useless
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>>152624415
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>>152624348
they're still infinitely more useful than wiz2 if you're rolling a linker alch. at the very least your homunculus can passively cast fire/ice spells for you
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>>152624415
>>152624537
soon 2k
not counting KTOS
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>>152624415
106 days.
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>>152624415
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>>152624628
>they're still infinitely more useful than wiz2
true

>at the very least your homunculus can passively cast fire/ice spells for you
shit but.. its something?
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>>152624415
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>>152624415
I didn't care until you made me curious.
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>>152624804
Homunculus can use ice bolt/pike/wall, which can all freeze at level 1. Better than literally useless wiz2.
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>>152624415
Didn't play any of the CBTs
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>>152624940
>freeze
oh, yes. that is nice
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>>152624415
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>>152624415
i started about 3-4ish weeks ago
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What does "IMC" stand for?
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>>152625782
Immediate Money Cow
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>>152625782
I Milk Cocks
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>>152625948
DELETE THAT
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>>152620258
Disgusting elememe! You want build shaming? You couldn't possibly think you could go into three ranks of elementalist and still PvP! So stupid. You aren't fit to lick the talt from your guild masters boots, little on compete in minigames. Go back to Alementh where you belong! You couldn't ever satisfy a real Kabbalist or their pizza
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>>152625948
I wish the cow was a futa so I could milk her(his) cock
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>>152626314
>Alementh
Every time.
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>Zucken and Redel have a lower per level skill damage increase than Cyclone
>None of them get one extra hit per invested level
Defend this.
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>>152626314
Elememe is decent at pvp though, just not in 2v2 "scout fletchers only" queue.
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So did FP actually get TP?
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>>152626560
With all the wiping they do, let's hope they picked up some more
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>>152626560
>>152626560
>>152626560
technically yes but Lolipan used it all because he says he thought everyone got boxes.
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>>152626908
this can't be real
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>>152626908
pls be real
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>>152626414
>C3 attributes give flashy fake multi-hit that aren't really worth it
>they also increase skills' CD by 10 seconds
DEFEND THIS
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>>152626940
It isn't.__________________________________
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>>152627074
>only 5 tp left
LOL
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>>152627276
>tp
>talt
uhmm
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>>152627046
>>C3 attributes give flashy fake multi-hit that aren't really worth it
I keep hearing this, is it confirmed?
I really dislike how doppel is shaping up to be Cyclone: the class then. I like Redel and Zucken, but their damage can't even compare with it.
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>>152626414
>>152627046
New attrbutes increase damage by 100% so it's around 2000-2500 times 5 or whatever amount of hits were these skills originally for total 10-12k not including weapon and str atk. Zucken gets shock bonus on top of that. And it doesn't lock you in spinning animation for 7 seconds.
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>>152627404
>maintenance soon
>no talk of meetup
we finally ded?
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>>152627404
>>152627046
>fake multihits that arent worth it
>videos of Doppels oneshotting monsters with 200k with those fake multihits
what is the problem?
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mfw we just got 20 free TP packs
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>>152627726
>>152627046
>>152627474
Please post proofs
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>>152627484
BRING YOUR OWN BEER TONIGHT FOR THE MEETUP!
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>>152627803
>71W3L
how
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>>152627803
where is futureproof?
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>>152627726
Meanwhile dragoon2 uses skill that has 16 sec CD with 2 overheats to rape everything faster.
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Is the patch in 3 hours?
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>>152624415
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>>152628256
>patch
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>>152627853

I'm done with the meetups

Too much cancer pretending to be friendly there when they talk shit behind your back for no reason.
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>>152624415
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>>152627853
I've got plenty of beer but can't make the meetup because I'm busy!
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>>152627843
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#1999.1f31415a61768a91
http://blog.naver.com/king_sop/220792027332
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Reviews on this game aren't looking so great on Steam. You guys seem have played a shit ton, what would you guys say about it?

Assuming you guys aren't spending a shit ton of dough on the game anyway. But I doubt it.

Deciding whether to bother trying or not.
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>>152628710
It's shit, but enjoyable.
>>
>>152628710
If you don't immediately want to play it after having heard about it, don't bother.
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>>152628710
The reviews were done during a time of great unrest and the game was even unplayable at times

Nowadays its kinda better but it's dead as fuck because IMC lost all their customers

If you like these kind of games you can definitely have a lot of fun
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>>152628710
The game was in a terrible state until the most recent patch.
It's funny because it feels like it was the most amazing patch ever, yet all it really did was make the game how it should of been to begin with.
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>>152628710
this game is like a drug
it kinda sucks, and it makes you feel bad, but if you get hooked you can't stop playing, and even if you stop playing you won't stop thinking about it

just avoid it unless you are self destructive and enjoy cute anime girls flashing their panties left and right
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>>152628893
What did the patch do that was so amazing? From a mage point of view, I haven't been really wowed by anything.
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>>152628710
game has a dead end future because it's poorly optimized and will likely never be optimized
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>>152628696
Does that shit stack with Cleave? Never seen a barb doppel3 video there.
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>>152628710
If I wasn't in a guild and if they hadn't just added Arena I wouldn't be playing.

And Arena is broken, so take that however you want.
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How does the necronomicon work? What cards should i put in and do I need four to make it work?
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>>152629239
how bad are you
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>>152628710
>What would you say about it?

It feels like a game where devs don't fucking play it, critical issues are left for months, balance is absolutely laughable, power creep is exponential, game design choices are all over the place, there is no clear focus and most of the solutions this game brings, in any matter, involves band-aiding critical issues which end up biting them back later. Playing this game for months and then playing something else made me literally think "Wow, I forgot games were this polished, huh.", ToS is absolutely horrid. That being said, the gameplay of the game is a big factor people enjoy it, alongside with graphics and a bit of music, so I'd say give it a chance since it is free to play but don't expect anything above an indie title.
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Reminder that Kabba3 will have +300% HP on a 100% uptime
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Today is the day a blue mob is going to appear!
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>>152629424
>Playing this game for months and then playing something else made me literally think "Wow, I forgot games were this polished, huh."

Lmao. I don't think I've even fallen through the floor yet in ToS. It's not a great game but I want to know what kind of polished shit you've been playing,
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>>152629815
Any fucking game shill.
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>>152629424
this so much.
if only they could fix and re-balance most parts of the game. or sell it to someone who can.
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>>152629745

will FF's kyss be good with this?
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>>152630252
Thauma reversi full INT
FF allahuh akbar after buffed with kabba3
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>>152630346
>still worse damage than any real dps classes' multihit skill
Also
>reversi
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>>152629815
FFXIV
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>>152630434
Who cares about DPS when that skill will oneshot anyone in an aoe thats not immune to damage
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>>152630586
You can already do that with necro meteor.
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>>152630681
No you can't kill full con builds with that
>>
What happens if you allahu ackbar while invulnerable like with ausrine?
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>>152630346
Wiz 3 Thaum 2 Runecaster Featherfoot 2

Cast transpose, rune of giants for double HP. Step on kabba circle for x 3 hp. Grab Patron orb in GvG for HP tripled again, then cancel rune of giants.

Kill yourself for a fuckload of damage.
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>>152628696
Wow that guy is ridiculous, melting bosses and shit swinging his 2hand cock around
>>
just ran a dungeon with someone who was so embarrassed by an instakill from an enemy they quit.

then there was another person in the party who just stood next to the monsters we were fighting to 'pretend' he was hitting them. i think his sword was too heavy or he had his hand in his pants and was too busy erping.
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Yo
Orsha
My connection is going to hell, I won't be able to make it AGAIN this week.

This is the second week in a row that meet-up has been interrupted by connectivity problems.

Take care
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>>152630928
>they didn't roll a sorc to afk erp
Literally just let your summon do all the work in dungeons plus lewd costume to boot.
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>http://www.passion-gaming.net/forum/m/2404996/viewthread/26963029-adding-npc-art-to-your-crafted-goods/post/last
>Tutorial to put NPC images on memos is down

Someone has a new tutorial place?
Also what is Jurate's image ID?
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>>152627884
All that +40 gear made from crashing channels.
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>>152631387
It's bannable.
>>
Anyone on ktos care to share their murmillo build and if it is actually any good?
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>>152631060
Is anyone from Orsha even going to be on tonight?

I haven't been on in a few weeks and I wanted to yet Colyo know that I'm not yet, but I'm having similar issues to what you're having.
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>>152631387
>>152631853
I don't really mind if it's banable or not. It's not like GMs will go around looking people's items to ban them for having game files on their memos.

By the way, I was able to find the ID for Jurate which is img Dlg_port_Jurate.
Now I just need the original size of the pic to resize properly and not end like pic related.
Can someone help?
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>>152631387
>needing a tutorial for 1 line of code
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>>152631853
>someone buys a picture memo item
>banned
Don't even give a shit dude, it's for my waifu.
They're not retarded enough to pull that.
>>
>>152632627
>It's not like GMs will go around looking people's items to ban them for having game files on their memos.

Actually, this is specifically what they look for.
Impossible enhancement levels are okay, but pictures are a ticket to the permabanvan.
>>
>>152626908
>>152626940
>>152627019
Fortunately it isn't real. I know how guild storage works. Those 5 are from 2 weeks ago. I don't know if we got TP from last week. We aren't showing in the rankings even though we fought, but I know those rankings are bugged anyway.

Did the other guilds get their TP for last week?
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>>152631060
Everything will be alright, don't worry

>>152632315
We're more alive than ever and yes there will be a meetup tonight. If anyone gets kicked for inactivity just let Colyo know and you'll be let back in.
>>
>>152632627
What is easy for them to ban are those with solid evidence. Go video a bot and post it on the forums and it'll get banned too.
>>
>>152629815
Polish goes to other things than just bugs.

They didn't even get to implement the entire journey of the game before they were forced to push it out. They don't seem to have a clear vision what they're aiming for and aside from the class system the game doesn't have a lot of good things going for it. Even then the classes are unbalanced and there's a lot of cases where things aren't even worth picking.
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>>152632873
We got a 20 pack for our reward
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>>152633237
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/toxic-player-with-abusive-language/320831
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>>152633395
BASED GM_FRANCIS
>>
>>152632627
I don't know how you want it, just go trial and error with some ez craftables.
>>
>>152632978
>We're more alive than ever and yes there will be a meetup tonight. If anyone gets kicked for inactivity just let Colyo know and you'll be let back in.
Thanks. I'll be back this week.

Had a rough few weeks of work, and really I just can't stay up until 1AM much anymore.
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>>152632873
We got 5 packs of 100 TP. I don't know what Loli decided to do with it but it showed up as a popup.
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>>152633395
>>152633473
they say that about the bots that ran around for 3 months straight too. stupid dumb smelly futurecucks.
>>
>>152633375
That's odd, then. I'll wait for maintenance and, if we don't get any, I'll send them a ticket. We have 1012 points too, we should be tried up with you.
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>>152632780
It's more like I needed the pastebin with image IDs and the right sintax but I found it myself.

>>152632851
You're a funny guy.

Anyway, I used the proportion of other goddesses (900x1000) and it worked fine on Jurate I guess.
Same for this other goddess, Dalia.

Now to chose which one I put on my new Petamion
>>
What's the meme build for dragoon2?

Pelt1 hop3 doppel1 drag2?
>>
If you do one of those merc party quests with someone whose 20 or so levels under you and there's a boss involved, what level will the boss be? The highest level player?
>>
>>152633607
bye dvine it was fun playing with you
>>
>>152632978
>Everything will be alright, don't worry
I need a hug.
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>>152633997
>>
>>152581567
>wanted to make a char for farming
>saw that guide on the forum and thought I should give it a try
>now people are saying all around that the build is shit

Sigh, I better just quit at this rate, i just wanted a char for farming some silver...
>>
>>152633669
yes
>>
>>152634123
Arch>QS3>Arch2>SR3

just run the 130 dungeon
>>
1-4 chronomancer (male)
5-8 chronomancer (female)
9-0 stop fucking making alts
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>>152634447
>even considering a boy(male)
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>>152634447
>5-8 chronomancer (female)

nice
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>>152634523
lamia willed it anyway
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>>152634447
>1-4
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>>152581567
The more detailed something seems, the more believable it is. Thats why when you want to mislead people, intentionally or not, a well made infographic can go a long way in getting people to blindly agree because it has all the statistics and details they need, even if none of them are real or if they are taken out of context.
>>
Has anything changed leveling wise? Demon prison grind still something you gotta do?
>>
>>152634123

What's the point of making a farming scout3 when SR3 is not only faster at clearing dungeons but it also superior in every way for aoe damage?

People were pretty much banking on R8 classes not being total shit, meanwhile SR3 is guaranteed to be good despite the C3 skill
>>
>>152634726
No
>>
>>152634726
you can skip all <200 grind and half/much 200+ grind now
>>
You retards dont even know what kind of + weapons they used in those videos.
>>
>>152633595
he got 5 skill resets and already used them on his characters
>>
>every pyro build literally cannot output enough damage to progress through r8 now
simply amazing
>>
You know corsair is a joke when there is no good transition from the third circle into rank 8 classes. None of the classes fit it at all.
>>
>>152635289
>not going corsair3lancer so you can be a SR
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>>152633369
>They didn't even get to implement the entire journey of the game
It's an MMORPG. MMORPG don't have endings. It'd be even more of a singleplayer RPG if it did.
>>
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Does this game still run at 2 fps on a quantum super computer and reaches 1000ms with fiber optic cable internet?
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>>152635370
I doubt you'll be able to use any of the corsair skills while mounted.
>>
>>152635149
You can't reset retarded class choices.
>>
>>152635453
Is that why the whole game is a solo quest grind because garbage restrictions means it's more convenient to just solo?
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>>152635464
Barely
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somebody make a new thread with the meetup info in the OP or else no one will remember to come
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>>152635664
Barely lags anymore?
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>>152636251
HUGE
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>>152636251
>like 8 people at the meetup
ummmmm
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>>152636251

where is this map anyways?
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>>152635289
Could always go Doppel.

Seriously they should consider adding a hidden interaction and whatnot to make this shit more viable. The fact they started this attribute fest to make shit viable is laughable, I have no hopes for this game.
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>>152636251
>>
>>152636251

ugly prostitute
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>>152636391
Nigga calm down, its suppose to start at 12 sharp, some people just come here early
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>>152636408
>>152636408
>>152636408
>>152636408
>>152636408

Time to move on to next week and next thread.
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>>152636391
dad gam
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>>152635289
if they made Hexen work with Shinobi clones it would be pretty fucking danke
>>
>>152635289

>iron hook
>joust
>unmount
>hexen 2x, pistol 2x
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>>152636251
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