RimWorld General /rwg/

Man, the XML for leathers and meats is fucked up...

>there is a <butcherProducts> tag - only used by mechs
>leathers and meats don't get their own ThingDefs, they're defined inside the animal's ThingDef
><useMeatFrom> and <useLeatherFrom> clearly look like hacks

I love the game and I think TS do code well, but come on... I'm almost wanting to edit the core mod and send him saying "hey, I did some house cleaning".

>>152620857
*does code well

>>152606208
i don't see the problem with adding water

let's say you start with some barrels of water that sustain you for so long, they're magically added to any meal you cook so long as you have the water, and you'll need to find some source of water before your supply runs out or you'll suffer dehydration penalties. water can be found on the surface, in mountains, or underground, and you could always build a well anywhere in the lategame for guaranteed water, maybe make it a task to refill your water storages

that's one shitty way of doing it, not the end of the world

>>152621471
It would also add differences between biomes, like water would be scarce in a desert.

>>152621471
your idea sounds like a big pile of shit.

what is the benefit to the current gameplay? none.

there is no need for dehydration as long as there is malnutrition. there are already differences to the biomes regarding your aspect. it's called fertility.

the guy from the last thread who wanted to add water was the dumbest idiot ever.

so

is there any way for me to increase my chances of recruiting? I made the prison the nicest room in my compound...

>>152623428
okay

listen

I agree with you that adding water is a bad idea

but

can we try to tone down the flaming a little bit?

I'm so tired of seeing dumb flame wars here

there are nice generals you know

>>152623996
it's better to talk in extremes, nobody's feelings are gonna get hurt and it gets the actual point across

shit ideas should be called shit

>>152624360
>it's better to talk in extremes
true but only because it's an anonymous board.

>shit ideas should be called shit
true. people complain so much about lack of content in early access games. only add things that actually improve the gameplay. if you desperately want something that everyone agrees is shit, get your ass up and mod it on your own

>>152623996
see
>>152602826
he provoked it to make fun of everyone who wants to add water.

A15 upload please.

Rimworld only gets my money when its $20 or less.

$30 is a ripoff, I can buy 3 episodes of Hitman 2016 for that price and thats a AAA game that is surprisingly great

>>152624360
spoken like a true teenager

>>152624883
I don't care who provoked whom, ignore trolls or stay cool

is everything given equal priority if you don't turn on manual priorities?

I want to make everyone tidy up a little every day by making cleaning priority 1 so things don't get shitty

>>152625628

If you don't turn on manual priorities then everything in the priority list is done left to right.

In other words, cleaning is literally the last thing that anyone will do, and colonists will only do it when there's nothing else to do.

>>152623428
We get it you dont want water other people do. In the end its up to the modders or the dev

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A couple hours ago I sold all the parkas too because it's been the heat that's killing me, not the cold.

>>152625628
everything should be at priority 3 if you don't turn on manual priorities. but work orders to the left still get preferred to equal priorities.

it's better to make one cleaning day with most colonists and afterwards keep one colonist with high priority on cleaning.
if everyone has high priority on cleaning, one of them will stop whatever they do whenever there is a single tile dirty.

>>152626094
>>152625859
gotcha, thanks.

>when you have to have heaters in your freezer to prevent hypothermia

why is my female Husky named Terrorism

>121 F
>Toxic fallout
And here I thought I had overstocked on potatoes. Too bad I haven't researched TV yet...

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I'm gonna ask this question again because I'm a shitter and am genuinely interested in giving it a shot, but I want to play a wild west/deadwood style run and I need suggestions of mods and things to do in order to make it feel like an old west frontier town.

>>152626646
Animal naming raws. There are tags that allow pets to be named after "badass concepts."

I thought it was silly too. But fortunately you can edit pet random naming tags. Just leave it as male/female/unisex.

What's the best way to make money?

>>152626887
>Arid Shrubland starting environment
>Tribal Start
>start with a Muffalo Shaman, Sheriff, Doctor, Blacksmith, Courtesan, Escaped Convict, Teacher, Bartender, Ranch Owner, Drifter, Evangelist, and/or Colony Settler

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>>152626857
warden is off. all settlers confined to the compound.

the million dollar question: will this escaped prisoner die of heatstroke, toxic buildup, or warg mauling?

>>152627994
None, because you'll turn warden back on and rescue them

>>152628127
I dunno, she just collapsed.

I mean, she was already collapsed.

Also, the prison is not contiguous with the rest of my facility and everyone is in early stage heatstroke until I recycle enough steel to build more A/C. They are also all on minor toxic buildup because I had them build hallways between all major facilities before I confined them.

So I doubt she'll hang on long enough for someone to get healthy enough to risk rescuing her. But if I can avoid the hit to mood, I will.

>get attacked by 8 people when i have 4
>they all have sniper rifles and shit
>one of my dudes die
>random sheriff wanders into my colony and joins it
how do i kill the sheriff without ruining everyone's mood

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>>152628127
YOU TRIED TO GUILT ME INTO DOING THE RIGHT THING AND LOOK WHERE IT GOT ME.

MOODY'S BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS IF HE DIES. YOUR HANDS.

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>>152628951
FINE. WE LIVE OR DIE AS ONE. GODSPEED, WARRIORS.

>>152628951
>>152629124
writing in capslock makes you not funnier

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>>152629269
I WAS GENUINELY ANGRY

But everyone survived. We downed four wargs with fists and knives.

Of course, we'll burn to death.

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In a shocking upset, Blue has burned to death.

>>152629759
Unless you've got dusters and hats researched get ready for a one way ticket to Assfuck City unless the heatwave ends soon.

Are infestations still game-ending colony destroyers?

Is the only way to defend against a metal-slug invasion still to have a kill-box with 30+ turrets?

>>152630193
>Are infestations still game-ending colony destroyers?
no
>Is the only way to defend against a metal-slug invasion still to have a kill-box with 30+ turrets?
no

>>152630838
What did they change?

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when are double insulated airlocked freezers good and when is it just not worth the bulk?

especially early on?

Cant someone please fucking upload A15, every other Alpha has been uploaded here.

Please?

Fucking raid in toxic fallout, and apparently immune wtf

>>152631273
Playing in average climates, it's often not a big issue. Single wide is good enough, but more insulation guarantees your things won't rot during a solar flare or bad power shortage.

The higher the average temperature, obviously the better your freezer will want/need to be. Seems like above 41c you're saving a lot of cooler resources if you insulate, even early on.

Then if you're on an icesheet you probably don't even need a freezer, you can put your food outside under a roof. Lategame if you want people to cook food in the freezer you could probably do a heater/cooler setup to keep it at -3c or something.

>>152631474
They aren't immune. Toxic fallout just takes a minute to build up. If your colonists are at 0% toxicity, you should be able to post up and fend them off safely.

>>152630169
I have A/C everywhere, can just barely keep the living quarters tolerable during the day. The colonists actually all survived. Moody has a peg leg now though.

>>152631273
I just double insulated my entire base and stuck 2 coolers and an autodoor on my freezer.

I still need to go back and double insulate my cooler exhaust room though.

uh... is high heat in my battery room going to be a problem?

i've researched gun turrets, do the "improvised turrets" target enemies exclusively?

Are there or will there ever be endless maps? I played this years ago but got bored and switched to factorio after conquering the whole square.

>>152632497
you can make bigger ones than before but it says it may cause performance issues

>>152632283
1. turn them on
2. retreat to designated safe zone
3. ???
4. PROFIT

What kids do y'all think should be part of vanilla? I love the expanded prosthetics and bionics mod.

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>>152624946
get the fuck outta here, If your feelings are that hurt over words in a screen then you really are a dumbfuck

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>>152623996
you sound like a soccer mom

By the way, is anyone else playing the Alpha15? It's pretty fun besides all the glitches, the drugs are alright but there should be a cartel faction that taxes you and sells you slaves

>>152624890
epic

sent :^)

>>152633413
>>152633775
My feelings aren't hurt. It's just an eyesore, like beer cans on my lawn.

what's the required material to craft a charge rifle?

>>152633294
both of those.

Medevil mod to an extent, but fuck those easy ass windows that let you shoot through, too easy with that, rest is great.

Ability to make multiple colonies, but once you change from one it turns into a faction that continues to grow exponentially from Wealth(for better or worse) so you cant go back.

So like, say you made a big colony, lots of tech, then you can move like a max of 3 to start over new in another map region, your current colony stays and grows based on tech+wealth and can be enemies/friends(should at least be neutral if changing)

So now you create some nice storytelling from past colonists who can come trade, wander, or attack you.

Some more history keeping would be nice outside of Art pieces.

>>152627975
I'm making the colonists for this using Prepare Carefully (At least to get the backgrounds right so that my muffalo shaman won't refuse to go anywhere near animals) and Altering the game to give me more wood to start in order to build this frontier town.

Would there be any worthwhile mods to add period appropriate weapons or items I can use in the town itself?

>>152631945
>Zzzt!

>>152631273
Regardless of the climate, I only use a single wall and no airlock.

Reasons:
1. I can protect against solar flares by keeping a low temperature and locking the door while the flare is going on;
2. Space is premium. Space = walking distance = time = colonists doing shit.
3. Airlocks look fucking ugly.

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>>152633874
sounds like you got triggered to me pal. There are other websites where you can discuss rim world without being triggered. I advise you go to a safespace website made for soft cunts like you

>>152635450
>posting desu girl
Go back to /A/ you newgay.

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patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

>>152631273
>not needing heaters in your freezer to keep your people from freezing in it
easy climate/10

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>playing tribal start
>travelers from Old Town Lutin are passing by

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3H_xsdr-Vs

>tribal caravan passing through
>holy shit, 26 people plus animals
>suddenly, maneater warg pack attacks
>don't want to risk friendly fire, just have my best marksman take potshots at any wargs that stray from the battle
>rest of my colonists just stand by helplessly
>in the end, 10 dead tribals, 3 downed, 6 injured
>mood debuts and missing fingers everywhere
>rescue the three downed tribals
>one lost an eye, disfigured debuff with the rest of her tribe
>when they recover they just stumble off the map alone, abandoned by their brothers
>what's left of the caravan is milling about in the rain and dark, dripping blood everywhere
>can't heal them or give them food or shelter
>can only finish off the downed wargs and haul them away
Well that was fucking depressing, those guys get their own section in the catacombs

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Don't make me dig out another room you fucking game.

>>152635558
What modded sorcery is this

you know what really turns me on

leg amputee prisoners in small dirty 2x2 rooms

i only wonder what must be going through their mind

>>152637418
>.She then had Concubine Qi's limbs chopped off, blinded her by gouging out her eyes, cut off her tongue and locked her in the latrine, and called her a "Human Swine" (人彘). Several days after, Emperor Hui saw the "Human Swine", and after realising who the "Human Swine" was, the emperor was so sick of his mother's cruelty that he virtually relinquished his authority and indulged in carnal pleasures.

>>152636728
Tynan should make a proper double-door constructable

>>152637418
>at least I can still fap
>I would kill for some A/C
>When the fuck is dinner?
>So bored
>I wish I had some music
>Who needs action figures when you have hands; look, I can make them fight.

>spend hours making a comfy village in unstable A15
>everything broke between the last revision

RIP Radical, you will be missed.

>Travellers come to my settlement and stick around and because there are no visitor beds they sleep on the floor

oh fuck will that make whatever town they're from mad

>>152641159
Are you using the hospitality mod? Pretty sure it doesn't, I've had settlers stay on the floor and leave saying the stay was great and leaving 'gifts'

prosthetic fingers when? -10% manipulation for a lost pinky sucks

>>152641586
>16 hour solar flare
>lose 200F indoors
>cold kills all of my prisoners
>live because i keep tuque's and mufallo for my colonist

the worst part about this is that you can never get hydroponics to work

it kills your plants every time

>>152641586
It's only natural to chop off the entire arm to replace a finger.

>tfw my tribal colonist I recruited a while back has 15 shooting 11 memes full power armor a charge rifle and 3 tamed grizzlie bears

So fun to use.

More terraforming when?
I want to be able to create springs.

>>152645663
>11 memes

Make him smoke some joints so he can be even more dank.

>>152637820
Can we do that in this game? I mean the former part, not indulge in carnal pleasures.

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:'[

>>152650341
>>152650341
yes

but sadly you can't rename prisoners

also only animals shit in this game

>New colonist joins
>Is father of one of the other colonists
>Father is 2 years younger than colonist biologically
>Father is 60 years older than colonist chronologically

interdasting

>>152650996
Fucking cryosleep.

>>152623996
whoever reads this is a beatiful woman

A water function could work if:

>rain barrels for collecting water (cheap to build)
>Wells (also cheap to build)
>ice can be melted into water (at a stove or campfire)
>canteens that colonists can carry around can be made for like 10 steel (they go to refill them like twice a day)

Just keep it simple.

>>152651798
water is a pointless feature and so is your life

>>152651798
so food but without ressources? how stupid. why would you want an inferior rehash of an existing game mechanic when you could use the time to make something that actually adds content to the game.

even as a mod it's as much wasted time as that guys life.

>>152620572
Why are my assholes eating raw shit when theres over 100 meals ready closer?

The fuck is wrong with them?

>>152652613
did you know that corn and berries are edible raw? colonists don't care (alpha 14) if it's cooked or not as long as it's edible

>>152652971
They tend to eat the ones that give more buffs anyway

>one of my pawns has plague AND malaria
>two of my 3 doctors are sick
Just fuck me.

>>152631273
Does insulation even matter? I always assumed the game didn't simulate heat transfer very accurately so it wouldn't matter as long as it was an enclosed room.

Also does the material you make it of actually matter?

>>152632283
Yes, but they have a big tendency to friendly fire if you stand anywhere in front of them, so plan accordingly.

Can somebody fucking help me figure out how the base stuff like hats is defined in the xml files? I'm trying to relocate them to different crafting tables and not having any luck. I'm in the process of dividing out clothing and weapons into different tables because I have a fuck ton of mods installed. Basically I've been working on a mod pack similar to hardcore SK for like a month now. Once I get everything done I'll post it up so people can try it.

Basically how I have it set up is that you start off with tribal Era people and progress to medieval tech then to modern tech then spacer tech. I'm trying to keep items appropriate to the tech periods which means having to move around and create new crafting benches and items. I'll post more details about it tomorrow. Going to bread. Hope one of you dudes can help me out.

>>152651798
good idea
would add more thot towards choosing a location for your house

>>152654515
IIRC insulation matters but only up to double.

>>152654515
Insulation does matter, but not dramatically. It takes up space, and you could just put another heater/cooler in a room instead. Not to mention heat also leaks through the roof, which you can't do anything about.

>>152652208
>>152652474
along with water we should have plumps and sewers, bathe house etc,
making lake and river important rather than just decor
also could relate to many disease without proper hygiene
but of course it's all anti fun right?

>>152656817
fuck off autist

>>152656817
>>152657246
why they bothered with heat and cold but didnt even touch water is beyond me

temperature management is much more autistic than fucking water

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>>152656817
Rivers would be nice, just for flavor. Imagine building bridges as choke points for raids.

>>152655765
You can dig your fridge into a cave cannot you?

>finally getting somewhere in permadeath classic challenge mode(I've only ever played permadeath challenge)
>after 5 hours finally start replacing wood housing with slate
>infestation
>go deal with it
>zzzzzt
>lose all my housing and crafting/research buildings


God damn, so many statues and shit lost. I tried making a fire popper thing but didn't know walls would block it :(((


Sadly this is leading to a tantrum spiral and I think if the game gives me a single raid before hand I'm fucked

>>152657536
well it's true, game also has shit like peg legs. and now drugs in the alpha 15. I see no reason for not adding water
It could be fucking sweet in desert map, like you need water for bot pawns, cattle and crop, and rain in desert or any map with little rainfall (again this rainfall number now relevant) is truly life saving for once
>>152657707
rive flow could also add another type of electric generator

Is it a bad idea to have all gay colonists?

>oh boy lets start a new game
>I think I'll go to the rainforest and breed a thousand cobras
>spend 10 mins searching the map
>one cobra
>19yo Male with asthma
>spend three seasons trying to tame him with a 14 animals dude
>no more spawn in
>finally tame him
>he has a heart attack and dies on his way to the cozy cobra cavern I'd made for him

;-;

>>152659320
They can't have kids anyway so it doesn't matter much.

>>152659628
b-b-b-but why do couples have sex, when I watch them sleep they wake up in the middle of the night to do the deed

Do any of you guys frequent the official forum?

>>152659762
Mood buff.

TFW lose a 4 hour peram death game that I was doing fine in because pathing in this game is retarded. I shouldn't constantly have to make restricted zones during every encounter

>oh a giant pack of man hunters, rather than take the hallway to the hospital I'm just gonna go and run into the middle of the pack hur dur dur
I could have tried to salvage it and let eveeryone but one guy die but I aint gonna play my homies like that, ya feel me?

What do I do with my doctor who keeps getting rejected by this 20 year old beautiful vat-grown former sex slave? He's constantly getting mental breakdowns and it's driving me nuts, I'm this close to killing him but then who will treat my colonists

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>>152663113
TFW some people just can't take no for an answer

>>152663113
Also you can just keep them seprated, it's annoying but you can restrict zones so they don't mingle

>>152663447
Then the doc fuck would probably get rejected by my pretty 44 year old information broker

And so the cycle of suffering continues

Good morning!

>>152666304
ohayo anon!

>>152666304
>morning
Fuck you, I've been up for 10 hours now.

>>152663351
there should be a berserk state were he goes over and rapes her, could call it "sexual emergency"

it gives her a permanent debuff that you have to treat with drugs

>>152657246
wahh this game is too hard for me

anyone got a guess at when the A15 could come out as "stable"?

Bought the game not too long ago. I'm thinking about getting some mods, but don't want to get comfy on mods if A15 is around the corner

The only thing I would enchance now is the trading and hauling.
We should be able to send our traders away
We should be able to make saddles to ride animals and they would have more space for items
Animals Hauling should be just like its now for Animals that have no masters - if animal have the master it should haul things the master hauls - and be closer to master.

>>152667592
>>152663351
rape mod idea:

can turn prisoners into sex slaves which gives a huge mood boost to the colonist, with negative global mood that stacks except if colonists have the psychopath trait

small chance of them fighting back, determined by melee skill

this gives a huge mood debuff to the raped prisoner so if you want them to not go berserk all the time you remove their legs/spine

can date rape colonists w/o capturing them by setting it as an operation. useful for removing the "rebuffed" debuff

pawns with "masochist" trait love being raped

>>152671241
It should also affect how other colonies view you if your colony is full of rapists.

>>152635537
All of 4chan is /a/ newfag.

>>152650619
Did you roof your entire colony?

>>152669649
I have about 20 mods. I won't be changing to A15 until they're all updated.

>>152650619
Never build you walls out wood past the first building. Fire proof everything. I good defense I like to use is to put wood deadfall traps all along my walls. The ai loves to swarm the walls so they end walking all over them trying to hit the walls. Also remember fire breaks. Finally, another tip is to deconstruct all the buildings you see around the map. This often gives you enough stone build your first wall.

I really wish this game favored melee combat more. What it really needs is a separate melee and ranged weapon slot for each colonist and ammunition. As it is, melee is extremely niche (nice in an ideal situation, otherwise useless). It doesn't help that in the vanilla game there isn't a lot of good limb and face armor until power armor. Plus some enemies *cough bugs* *cough mechanoids* are insanely deadly in melee. Like we didn't need enough reasons to not use it.

>>152674414
Yep, remember steel is still 20% flammable so don't even bother with those walls at all , cutting all plants and building stone floors is also a must to prevent fires


If you really wanna hvae though , plant some trees near your entrance and when a raid comes light them all on fire, watch those fuckers burn!

any reason to keep yorkshires? They sell for shit and they give no meet or leather nor do they bread like chickens.

Post your:
>Favorite RIMWORLD animal
> Animal you would love to see in RIMWORLD
>Unique powers for that animal

>>152679878
>Favorite RIMWORLD animal
Alpaca
> Animal you would love to see in RIMWORLD
Giant ants
>Unique powers for that animal
Tamable, they destroy wood walls on their way

>>152679878
i want to have horses you can ride

>>152667592
I like it

>>152680542
I think every bigger animal should be ridable. For fun.
I want to ride on my bears!

>>152680649
>I want to ride on my bears!

gay

Well, after nearly two years of trying, my forty year old melee fighter has successfully wooed the twenty year old techie. At least the sex will help with her nervousness.

>>152680649
Megatherium cavalry after dosing them up with coffee and combat stims would be glorious, until one shows up with raiders and it zips through your killbox and the guy riding it blows the side of your colony open with a rocket launcher and rape hordes swarm in.

Are there any mods that add animal shields or make it so you can strap guns to them?

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mantis man blog update

he can now eat normally with his brand new bionic jaw

his waifu, the man hating trigger happy military comissar named cathy, likes him a bit better now. but they still don't fuck cus she hates men.

>>152679878
Boomrat
Apes
capture humans for research

Are thrumbos tameable? I'm guessing you need a high animal skill, my colonist never try to tame them when I set it to tame.

>>152682519
Do scythers blades increase melee stat at all? Also in using the expanded prostethis and bionic mod but I don't see a option to craft scyther blades just power arms.

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>>152683403
You have to hack them off living Scythers after you down them.

>>152683269
Yes but I think you have too incap them first and it's still kind of random, they also eat an insane amount.

>>152683910
Oh thanks man. Had no idea, I always just disassemble them

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>>152683403
yeah they do

i find that i end up incapping scythers with the sniper rifle more often than not because if you hit a leg, it'll be blown off in one shot and they'll be considered downed with minimal damage to other parts

Why won't my colonists clean their base

It is bloody hell literally

>>152685671
Work manual priorities cleaning 1

>>152686107
Problem is I'm running some mod that removed the option to select manual priorities, but I'm not sure what mod it is

What do?

>>152686210
>installing mods without knowing what they do

>>152683269
>Are thrumbos tameable? I'm guessing you need a high animal skill, my colonist never try to tame them when I set it to tame.

Yes, but you don't want to do it. They'll eat all of your food stores and trees and provide nothing of value in return.

>>152686390
I think it was the colony manager mod or something

God damn it

>>152679878
>Cobra
>Hawk
>Can hunt a rabbit/squirrel/rat/chinchilla or two each day, and just a fast deadly thing to train release on.

So how the fuck are you guys surviving so long? Are you save summers? Retarded cheap tatics? non challenge mode?

>>152659051
>rive flow could also add another type of electric generator

or water powered machinery like cams for automatic looms and whatnot.

>>152689907
I used to play dwarf fortress.

This is barely Fun.

>>152689907
Embrasures, weapons I stole off raiders or bought with organ money, compartmentalization in my base using stone doors. Temperature seems to have been my worst enemy in A14. 5 out of 8 of my colonists died to a heat spike. Later I got volcanic winter/cold snap/flashstorm/fallout in the middle of winter and it was forty below outside and hovering around zero in most of the colony aside from the dining room and main living quarters.

>>152691050
>Embrasures
so retarded cheap tactics then, alright.

>>152691436
Yet you probably still use killboxes and other cheaty shit. Hopefully someone comes up with a fix for the AI that makes it so they stop and shoot back when they take fire instead of being retarded and still rushing in.

I keep losing people to a manhunter attack because they leave the area I have restricted them to.

for example, my guy just left to eat at a table outside of the zone.

what the fuck

>>152689907
in my first playthrough when i had no fucking idea what i was doing, i had the same settings and survived for like a year until i installed a new version and started over
in my current playthrough where i thought i knew what i was doing i'm having no problems at all with food and such but the raids just destroy me every time

>>152693003
People can still move between designated zones, e.g. if you have two separated areas in the same zone, they can walk on undesignated areas between them if there's no other path. Is your table in the allowed zone? Otherwise it's possibly a bug.

>>152671030
being able to send out expeditions would be nice, either to trade or raid

Interesting/cool base layouts?
I'm thinking about a hexagonal or round base this time; doors are a pain though.

do any skills affect mortar use? current plan is to have non-fighters man mortars and shooters snipe.

>>152699121
>do any skills affect mortar use?
Yes. Better shooting = better mortar acc.

What are your thoughts on Combat Realism mod?

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Oh God not again.

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So, it turns out that traditional forts are viable. Raiders do not stand a chance unless they appear during a solar flare.

Do you know any mod that implements a second planning tool colour? Shit gets annoying to plan with a single colour.

>>152701758
Until they snake through all those columns in the east and set your freezer on fire.

>>152702356
Working on it. But bringing down a mountain is tricky.

>>152701758
>Wood

>>152702338
Nevermind, found one:
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=11249.0
(More Planning)

>>152702515
>>152701758
It's safe to space the columns 5 tiles apart.
Also, remove the thin rock roof and any column that supported it.

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>Try out hardcore SK
>The cat thing got me curious so I tried it
>Couldn't figure out how to make food or beds because I couldn't figure out how to get the shit to make a butchering station
>everyone goes mad from eating corpses
>start over
>Decide to do solo survivor as it'd give me time to get beds and food set up
>Falling debris causes explosions and craters
>neat
>Unpause after checking out all that shit
>Explosion happens
>Colonist is down
>Pet is dead
>It's a crater
>From a ship part
>Colonist no longer has a leg
well fine fuck you too hardcore sk.

I knew nothing about this game until today, is this just dwarf fortress with graphics and mouse support?

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If I ended my game like this, is it cannon that the animals were in the cryobeds and came with me to space on a grand adventure?

Also, are steeltrap labyrinths OP?

>>152703583
babys first dwarfLIKE , it's like dungeon of dreadmur vs rogue

>>152703635
Traps in general are op as hell, hell you can just force them into a giant line and remove your super secret back wall when a raid is coming so you don't hvae to worry about triggering them or being slowed down.


Honestly it's very very easy to cheese this game atm . I never played any game like dawf fortress and after 51-hour sessions of permadeath classic challenge mode I'm now about to win in my latest map.

>>152704340
5 1-hours seassions lol, not 51

>>152686485
Colony manager doesn't turn off manual priority m8y

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Haha, oh, wow.

The game is desperately trying to exterminate me and my impenetrable fort. It sent a pack of like 15 manhunter warns after me during an eclipse, but all I lost were some walls and turrets.

>>152704340
I never really play to win. Sure I could race to build space ship but I'd much rather blow my plasteel on making all my colonist bionic.

>CCL whines about mod order and doesn't let you play the game unless you obey them
Are we in the fucking Minecraft modding community yet, or did someone hire Reika for CCL?

>>152704840
>all the bedrooms are literally a different size and/or have irregular furniture placement

triggered

>>152705891
That poor fucker in the 2x2 room.

>>152705891
>>152706013
Not him, but I've been giving my colonists 4x7 rooms. Is this too much/too little?

>>152704840
>not making swastika with the bedrooms corridors
why are you even here

>>152706107
It's in the middle. No positives or negatives associated.

>>152700212
aw, shit.

well, I guess it's not like I'll be firing mortars by the time the enemy is in sniper range anyway

>>152706416
Well, with enough mortars, artillery and colonists, accuracy is irrelevant.

So, my colonist's mom just fell from space.

Last time this happened, she just wandered off all casual like after we healed her.

Is arresting her really the only chance I have to get her? She has great social and medical, both of which I need.

>>152679861
grind handling

>>152706712
yeah just arrest her

>>152706712
Still have to capture her. No idea why Tynan hasn't changed this yet.

>>152706821
>>152706832
nobody has good social. hope I get that .5%

>>152703380
I had a poison ship land on a colonist in vanilla.

Shit happens.

>>152707197
it was the god damn start of the colony

the first fucking thing I'm greeted with directly after hitting ok is a hail of debris causing giant craters in a giant area in the middle of the map and one of them lands on my colonist.

there's hardcore, and then there's fuck off that's bullshit.

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>>152707197
>>152707590
see this shit is what I'm talking about. Following is what happened prior to this in step by step
>new game
>sole survivor
>choose storyteller and difficulty
>choose a nice looking spot on the map
>load in
>hit ok
>debris and explosions and craters
>colonist spawns
>colonist tries to run off automatically
>gets hit by a ship part
this time he managed to get far enough away that it only tore his right arm off and shredded all his clothing and armor.

A15 close
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=1

>>152709024
can you post a pic of your modlist?

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>>152713949
Here

It's just all the 4.0 hardcore sk mods active minus three independents and some added weapons/armor and minor tweaks mods. I don't see how any of the extra mods would be causing this.

order is from the config file in the zip for hardcore sk with the extras at the bottom.

It also happens in any other scenario that involves coming down from pods, such as crashlanded. No matter what I tried I couldn't get them to not be hit by the ship. Ended up turning on dev and turning off all damage with god mode on and they finally survived being hit by the ship without being completely crippled.

>>152716660
try putting prepare carefully last?

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My first real colony. Everything is going pretty smooth. Researching new stuff just takes ages (best skill is 5).

Right at the beginning of the game one of my Drifters noticed something "evil" in the structure to the bottom left. Im going to take a look soon, wish me luck!

>>152720480
Should be fun!

>>152720480
Yeah you generally find some cool items so go for it

>>152720480
Keep in mind the only way to learn is to die horribly!

so I'm playing desert billionaire hermit

trying not to make a cave base

no electricity allowed

what's the best kind of tree to grow for wood?

>>152722773
Cecropias have the shortest growth time.

>>152720228
I can see how that could mess the fancy start up if it was in charge of the spawn timers, since they spawn before the big ship lands but after the smaller debris which would be when they normally spawn.

It also seems to spawn them twice as the game I dev'd my way into surviving ended up spawning a clone of everyone which I had to dev out of existence. just figured that out after that post as I had saved and quit before. So that's very likely what it is.

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Fort Turbo have come a bit further since the last time.

Balancing crop outputs to not have too much or too little is a bit tricky.

The ugliness debuff needs to decrease over time or something. Yes Emily is staggeringly ugly and can't fight, and I thought we should have left her to the ferals when she showed up, but she's a great doctor/constructor/trainer. We now have a small army of animals because she's here. Stop insulting her you dicks.

Would it be possible to mod in some type of bag over her head?

>>152724827
someone should add an operation--plasteel surgery

>>152727131
>now ugly to prostophobe

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MSPaint time...

I built my base with my south end completely exposed to the edge of the map, and yet there's also a northern and eastern face of the map that are, other than a small hole in the mountains that happens to be right next to my base, completely walled off from the rest of the map. This essentially means I have nowhere to put a killbox because I'm getting shit on on two fronts and one of the fronts is wide open.

However, I think I can "fix" things by walling off the hole in the mountains (green) and drilling a hole through another section of the mountains (black) so raiders from the north have to take the long way around through said hole so they eventually circle around from the south.

The problem is, the last time I walled off the area in green (without having drilled through the black), raiders just bashed their way through the green walls. I'm half thinking that maybe I should just reroll and put my base in a more defensible position.

>>152728738

Forgot the actual question - will my plan work, or will raiders just bash their way through the green wall again?

>>152728738
Why not just take a screenshot?

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>>152730251

Simplicity. But here's a screenshot if you want.

so can I just play on the same map indefinitely? will someone always come along if I keep playing after everyone dies?

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>>152730587
with a bit more wood, or whatever you like to use for building, you could funnel those from the north into the same general location as the ones from the south.

You could quite literally make a killbox if you wanted to fight then further away from your base.

unless you mean that space above your solar panels.

>>152724386
did you make a fucking theater out of a tube television

>>152733913

Well, that was kinda what I was asking, if I build walls, will they actually funnel through to the defenses or killbox or whatever, or will they break down the walls and ruin everything?

That place I have walls right now next to the graveyard I want to wall off 100%, and then drill a hole through the mountain somewhere to the south (so invaders from the north take the long way around and come at me from the south) but I don't want to bother if invaders from the north will just beat down the wall instead of walking the long way around.

And no, the space above my solar panels is a dead end with no exit and a geothermal geyser.

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>>152735371
Generally most the time as long as there is a way to go, such as an open gap, they will go that way as it's quicker and easier than going through the wall.

I dunno the exact situation that they'd focus a wall over a door, but I've never seen them prioritize hitting a wall outside of my base over trying to hit a wooden door leading into my base.

>>152735614
explain

>another goddamn convent child
refuse wanderers when

is it possible to make scenario maps or just starting circumstances?

>>152735614
>not filling only one grave in the bottom right
one fucking job
horrible
you have to go back

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Guys, what about these plans for my base? Criticism/suggestions for improvement?

>>152736954
>not winging it

>>152737040
How?
And how would it improve over the above?

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what's a suitable name for this useless fuck?

pol pot?

>>152737301
Name? This guy needs no name. He needs to wrestle a muffalo!

>>152736954
why is your kitchen so big?

even if you want a lot of space for food storage, it'll be a pain in the ass to keep cold.

also

if you get that rich you're gonna need some good defenses. walls and guns just aren't enough at a certain point.

wall becomes a vulnerability at a certain point, because the enemy will just blow a hole in it and you may not be able to respond before shit's chaos.

>no wild west scenario on the workshop
think I'm gonna make two--one "pure" edition with no technology beyond guns and no weird events (toxic fallout, psychic crap, space junk) and one "firefly style" where it's just cowboys in space.

thoughts?

>>152737361
you've convinced me, i sent him to wrestle a boomalope

can non-authors work on clothing projects? my guy i was using to make clothes died and i don't want to throw away two projects

>>152737520
>why is your kitchen so big? even if you want a lot of space for food storage, it'll be a pain in the ass to keep cold.
The kitchen will grow over time; this is just the reserved space.

I often get more ingredients than I can cook, but I need to store them for the winter. I think the space is suitable for 20 colonists.

>if you get that rich you're gonna need some good defenses. walls and guns just aren't enough at a certain point.
I did plan a space for a killbox in a place I can expand further on later...

>wall becomes a vulnerability at a certain point, because the enemy will just blow a hole in it and you may not be able to respond before shit's chaos.
Fair point - sappers are a pain. Any suggestion on how to deal with them?

>>152738119
>can non-authors work on clothing projects?
Nope. Cancel the projects to get some material back.

How the fuck do you deal with sieges? I planned for a frontal assault, but I didn't plan for a bunch of assholes to sit on the other side of the map and pelt my base with mortar shells. I don't have the manpower for a frontal assault - only two of my six colonists are decent shots.

>>152739016
1. Mortars.
2. More mortars.
3. Six mortars, one for each colonist.
4. Wait until they're asleep, then snipe them.
5. Did I mention mortars?

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what do i do about this

it initially "just" gave a -5 mood penalty, now it's giving -15

i don't wanna fuck with it because it looks scary but will it give me an even bigger penalty later? fifteen is already not managable

>>152739451
Build/move some turret guns at its range. Turret/wall/turret/wall you get the idea.
Call all colonists able to fight.
Put them behind the walls.
Ask one to shoot.

Alternatively, build a wooden bed near it, surround the spaceship and the bed with good walls and molotov'em. Don't forget to roof.

>>152739828
it just got worse, now all my colonists are angry

guess i should've dealt with this when it spawned instead of just waiting

>>152739451
Maximum penalty it can give is 50. Destroy it asap.

>>152739451
the hell kind of space horror movie shit is this

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>>152739967
You really never want to leave a psychic ship fragment because the drone debuff only gets worse over time. I hope for your sake that you're also packing EMP weaponry, too.

>>152740467
it's very early into the game, i have nothing

also apparently my shithole was worthy of a siege, so on top of everyone going berserk because of the -35 mood penalty, i was being mortared

well, that's the end of this colony

>>152735664
I've had some raiders attack with Sappers and half attacked by tunnelling into the base while the other half attacked front the front

Do you guys play with default map size? How much does performance suffer when playing with larger map sizes?

>>152741787
I only really get slowdown on fuckhuge drag selects and I play on the third largest size.

The bigger issue is the shitshow pathfinding on animals means anything you want to hunt or tame is going to be on the ass end of the map because they never move towards the center.

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First game with mods

Seems to be going well

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Am I doing it right

>>152742302
Is that a joke?

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>>152742559
What am I supposed to do m8

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Well, any fortress needs to start somewhere.

>>152742302
I like the natural design, but it's way too compact for the long term. You could get fukt if a larger-scale raid comes along to swarm the site.

>>152737301
>peoples socialist republic
>adolf
nice

>first wanderer is incapable of intellectual, dumb labour, violent, and crafting
>second wanderer is a sheriff
JUST

So I'm loving it, it's the child of two games I've enjoyed immensely.

The only things I'd really like are:

>a Z-axis
>wood cutting and harvesting to be a different fucking ability

Also is there a mod that allows me to select a "type" of settler and have it randomize in that pool rather than spending a year trying to get a hunter, miner, sex slave/doctor etc

So what's the ideal bedroom size, I know 5x5 will remove the negative, but space-wise that's fucking awful.

Is there an easy way to offset the negative with pretty flowers or some shit?

>>152751330
yes there is you casual,
also wood cutting is for lumber jack
harvesting is for farmer
think what you want but cutting huge tree require a lot of experience not just chop chop chep chep

>>152751616
must make it larger than 5x5
because if you put 'pretty flowers' and other nice shit in the room you get a cramped penalty even at 5x5

>>152751616
use the best bed you got, remove the terrible shit you got early game
use some statues remember to check its quality, from normal and above is ok, put 2, 3 of them inside a room
also you could try 5 x 7 room dont be stinky about room you nig,

>>152743376
I get you want to make it "beautiful, unique" or sth but it's not just practical
like your fields is small, the fridge and bed rooms are also too fucking small,

>>152751875
That's fuckin annoying. To be honest, if I'm dealing with that, everyone's getting 3x2 rooms early, once we get like, 6 settlers, we can make larger rooms, but I'll find another way to offset the mood negative with niceley

>>152751803
At the moment, don't they both fall under "cut plant", which really fucks priorities if you want 1 person to go grab some food, while you want another to cut some wood?

>>152751875
>because if you put 'pretty flowers' and other nice shit in the room you get a cramped penalty even at 5x5

>>152751330
I wish animal care and healing humans would be two different skils

>>152752425
Honestly Animal care should fall under Handle Animal

>>152752468
I would be satysifed by that.

>>152752143
about the room, what I did early game was making a big barrack, less bullshit penalties to deal with and the fucker could wait for their room later
then use the barrack and change it into dinning room or recreation center

about "cut plant" only if you forced harvest they bot cut the trees and crops (see the symbols of cutting appear on crop). Or else only colonist with grow job would harvest shit

>>152752613
Hmm, I just noticed that if I use the Order, it's a harvest order instead of a cut tree.

Still, it could be like DF where even with a shit skill you could do it but it'd take a while

>>152751875
>put faggy plants in every bedroom
>designated night owl planter disturbs the sleep of the whole colony when it's time to replant

i didn't know they could randomly get heart attacks

luckily he survived

so what was the point of night shift
only for some hideous colonist no one want to see on daylight?

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First masterwork item ever and it's boring as fuck

>>152752998
if they have the heart condition block sth sth then yes,
expect him to constantly crumble and need rescure

>keep rescuing crash survivors
>They never join me

WHY

>>152754048
You need to capture them. Yes I know its retarded

>flashstorm burns down everything because there's no rain and everything is made of grass
i'm so fucking lucky i decided to make my kitchen out of stone since that structure was the only thing preventing literally everything from burning down

>>152754419
and directly afterwards a raid with double my men and a triple rocket launcher comes

i've never even seen that weapon before, how fucked am i?

>wanderer joins my colony during a pirate siege
>gets killed by a sniper as she passes by

welp

>>152754512
rocket launchers are one time use weapons so if you have turrets it should be fine cause they're likely to use it on those, at least that's what happens for me

>>152754512
rocket launchers are single use. they are gone after using them.

depending on how your defense is set up i'd recommend focusing the raider with the rocket launcher before he can fire. it's possible to kill him before he fires.

otherwise if he get's to shoot it's likely that one colonist dies due to the 3 rockets hitting in a small spread.

it's not the end of the world but a fairly harder weapon to deal with

>>152754409
That is fucking stupid, so I need a prison.

Also, do any walls have beauty or add to wealth?

>>152754961
>Also, do any walls have beauty or add to wealth?
marble and granite have 3 beauty. all other stone types should have 2

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>want to do a neat base design every playthrough
>always do something similar to the last

>>152755046
Cool

I'm trying to upgrade all my wood to granite outside, and the inside walls to be marble, just for fun.

What about floors. Same deal?

>>152755259
all stone tiles have 2 beauty. wood for example has 0 beauty and thus cancely only the negativ beauty of soil.

i'm not sure if i'm right but on the bottom right you can activate colonist view. that lets you see the beauty around your courser

>>152755513
You're right, I just looked up the help in-game to see that

>carpet and tiles are basically the same, carpet just takes less work and some research

Is there a timeout on taming attempts?

Been trying to tame turkeys for fuckin ever now and they just don't seem to try that often

>>152755974
try to do rooms first where colonists are actually spending much time awake.

the bedrooms need only as much beauty as they are not dull. on the bottom right is a tool that lets you see the stats of a room.
the mood of your colonist doesn't change when asleep.
start with your kitchen and workshop. follow with dinning room and rec room

>>152756457
>rec room

riiight, I should make one of those

Can armchairs be used at work benches?

>>152756331
you can't try to tame the same animal for some hours after each attempt.
i'm sorry that i don't know how much time it is. i guess i've seen 2-3 tries for each animal on a single day

>>152756643
rec room is only worth it if its rating is so good that you get a mood bonus from it. don't worry if you don't have one

>Can armchairs be used at work benches?
yes! you should invest in kitchen first and the workbench you use most

Is there really an appreciable difference between granite and slate walls or should i look for a biome or scrounge together as much granite as i can to make the best defensive walls and bunkers from which to shoot from

>>152756860
limestone walls have the most hp i've found, dunno if that makes them the best or not.

>>152756860
granite wall has 3 beauty and 595 health.
slate wall has 2 beauty and 455 health.

but on the other side, raw granite walls also have more health and need way longer to mine than other stone types.

you could also go for a location that has 3 types of stone.

for example:
granite, slate and marble.
you need granite only for the outside. marble on the inside as walls and slate as the flooring.

marble and slate are the quickest to mine so you want to build your base inside them or just mine for the ressources. you use marble for the walls because it has 3 beauty and slate for the flooring because every stone tile has 2 beauty.

>>152756770
I had a room that they ate in, could I expand that into a rec room? Will they get any negatives for eating and relaxing in the same room?

Can you also eat on armchairs? I have so much spare material that I could spend time making some really nice armchairs to replace every-day chairs

Does the table they eat at add any bonuses except to the room?

>>152757274
>I had a room that they ate in, could I expand that into a rec room?

you can but there is also a mood bonus for a impressive dinning room. rec room and dinning room are besides bedrooms the current targets for beauty. if one of those 3 are impressive your colonists get a mood bonus.

>Will they get any negatives for eating and relaxing in the same room?
no! but if you combine relaxing with eating you can only have one of the bonusses at the same time. but still better to have one than none, right?

> I have so much spare material that I could spend time making some really nice armchairs to replace every-day chairs
you can also uninstall them and sell them to traders. an excellent armchair made of trumbofur has a market value of 1300-1400.
even afwul wood beds already sell for 8-13.

>Does the table they eat at add any bonuses except to the room?
no. by the way, small tables are better to get beauty and worth up.

>>152754048
hospitality mod

>>152757584
Fuck, even for escape pod survivors? nuts

>>152757538
Excellent

>small tables are better to get beauty and worth up

Using multiple in the same room or are you talking about what each can do per space it uses?

>>152757803
>Using multiple in the same room or are you talking about what each can do per space it uses?

space wise so it's advisable to use 2 small tables instead of one large if you struggle with getting the beauty for the mood bonus.
but honestly i think it looks just too stupid for me.

>>152757998
Yeah something about an awesome, ornate long table just does it for me

Slowly working on upgrading everything as I go. I'm gonna have to expand my base soon, I have nowhere to store materials

>>152758243
The long table should have more beauty.

>>152758243
>Yeah something about an awesome, ornate long table just does it for me
i absolutely agree. just wanted to share a little trick incase you really want that mod bonus.

>Slowly working on upgrading everything as I go. I'm gonna have to expand my base soon, I have nowhere to store materials
i'm not sure if you want an unasked advice but you can keep things outside aslong as they have a roof over them.

Wait, you can upgrade shit? Or do you just mean dismantling stuff and replacing it with a better quality version of it?

>>152758434
Yeah I know I can store outside, I'm just in the middle of a cold snap at the moment and trying to keep everyone inside at the moment

>>152758374
short superior gold table: 310 beauty
long superior gold table: 365 beauty

the short table has space wise almost double the beauty as the long table.

it's stupid but that's how it is

>>152758569
Sell bad shit and make new one better
This game is all about progress

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>that solar flare feel

>randy random hasn't been doing fucking anything

I think I'm gonna have to start trading with passing ships or something now, I just need some shit and I'm barely getting raided or traded

Is it bad that I want hardcore SK w/o the combat realism?

>>152759220
>>randy random hasn't been doing fucking anything

randy random on extreme gave me like 5 raids in 2 whole years. i thought randy was more difficult because he has no (fewer) restrictions but they go both ways.

i'm sticking with cassandra now.

>>152759383
Cassandra gave me the "chased by" event DURING A RAID

Can anyone give some advise on starting? What type of terrain should i choose (lots of mountains or not)? Do i just start building rooms at the first day? Kinda feel it wastefull using steel to do it, and researching stonecutting takes me like 3 days every time

>Smooth marble floor is 3 beauty
>Marble tile is 2
???

>>152759749
>wood floor is 1
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>152759749
>smooth marble floor has a contiguous grain
>marble tiles don't
makes perfect sense

>>152759616
crashlander scenario
temperate forest, borreal forest or jungle

use wood for the first 2 seasons.

>day 1
build 3 bedrooms 7x7 size (including walls) out of wood. each room should share one wall with another room.
build 4 walls at the corners of a stockpile and make a roof over the stockpile. things don't detoriate outside while under a roof.
let your best grower plant seeds nonstop from 1st day until the 6th. if you have growing over 8 make a 5x5 growing zone for herbal medicine first
>day 2
let grower grow. let one colonist join him if he is good or has fire in growing.

else let 1 colonist chop wood and harvest berries.

1 colonist should be building almost nonstop. stuff like kitchen, walk in freezer, dinning room, defense or power generation.

>day 5
you should have:
- walkin freezer
- kitchen
- 4 bedrooms
- 1 prison
- dining room
- atleast one solar generator and one batter. preferable two of each
- labratory. just a room with research bench.
- sandbags with roof ontop of them. use the walls for the roof as defense

>day 6
start researching. usually i prefer to get gun turrets first and then stone cutting because making stone bricks requires a colonist to work and i've got better stuff to do than cutting stone

that's how i do it and i've played on extreme without any starting ressources.

>flashstorm comes and blows up and sets fire to half my base
>then mechanoid raid

That colony didn't know what hit it, fuck

>>152760145
Wow, all of this with just wood? I guess i'll try, thanks

What about mountains? I feel if i set low then i won't get enough steel and other ore, but if its too high then i have nowhere to build.

What's the easiest way to make silver?

>>152760145
>sandbags with roof on top of them
what

what mods do I need for fighting based gameplay? mostly ranged

do (current) mods work with the experimental branch?

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>>152760973
>Wow, all of this with just wood?
i've got over 300 hours of playtime and i can count the numbers my base got burned down because it's made of wood on one hand.

but even then i have to admit those times it happened it ended my games and it was the only reason that i wasn't able to put out the fire quick enough.

just keep your defense 5 tiles apart from your base and focus enemies that have molotovs and incendary launchers or so.

>>152761523
look at the picture

Can us filthy pirates download scenarios anywhere?

>>152760973
>What about mountains?

forgot to answer that question.

i've played with mountains and without. it's personal flavor.

i've settled with building half of my base outside and the other half of my base in a mountain.
i build like 8-12 rooms outside in the beginning. when i run out of exposed metal from the map i slowly transition into a mountain base and turn most of the space that is outside of the mountain into indoor farming

>>152761701
le ebin ant meme

>>152762187
atleast i got a (You) because of it. but seriously, you shouldn't need a bigger picture than a thumbnail to explain roof ontop of sandbags in rimworld.

>>152753290
because your game has been boring.

>Prepare carefully lets you choose everything

Really not quite what I was lookin for. I wouldn't mind a specific type lock, like locking in a hunter but randoming everything else about them

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To be honest, it doesn't stand a fucking chance.

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>>152659546

I found, and sold, a shitton of gold and jade and bought a bunch of eggs and prepackages meals from a rogue trader.

I intended to make omelettes but they all hatched.

>>152764113

You may want to change your mortar placement.

>>152765208
I have quite a bit of resources. I can handle a few exploded turrets and mortars.

I did move the artillery shells within the walls, though. They take fuck long to make.

Is there any place to grab the game for less than 30?

I like what I've played so far but I just don't know if I want to throw that much at it.

>>152742302
add steel doors to your enterences

Prepare carefully looks fun, but I don't have 40 years to get it all perfect and it takes some of the challenge out of the early game.

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Is this going to work if I assemble it like this?

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What do you think about my plan lads

>>152767245
dwarf/10