Minecraft General - /mcg/ - the source of all your problems edition

First for 1.7 Traincraft soon™

>>152581389
>image.jpg
applefag pls go

>>152581697
I got it for free
And I'm going to milk it as long as I can

>No mod that makes the game prehistoric like early TFC
>Other than TFC

:^)

So, what modloader do people use nowadays for 1.7 and why? I haven't played this game in a few years.

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>testing modpack all day

>>152584151

Forge. You can use multimc or curse (but this thread will yell at you)

>>152584343
Wait, but the OP etherpad says multimc is goats. Anyone-edit etherpads wouldn't lie to me, right?

>>152584508
they will yell at you for curse i meant. but it's easiest desu

>>152584508
multimc is probably the best launcher, lots of flexibility and utility, easy to use and no bullshit, does all of the tricks and more

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I finished my collection of (modular) wall designs.
Again, the world download (1.10) is linked in the gallery:

http://imgur.com/a/oxrl4

I'll post some selections as follow up...

>Place full wood door from extra trees.
>Break full wood door from extra trees.
>drops two wood doors from extra trees,
10/10

>>152586268
more like 20/10

>>152586509
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>152586247
bretty cool anon, definitely ganna use osme of these myself

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>>152584343
>multimc and curse are modloaders

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>>152586247

I'd meant to call them Assyrian walls, but the Assyrians scare me ;_;

>>152586660
>i can't read

>>152586661
>>152586247
Pretty, though some of them seem to be too thin to be practical/walk on them.

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>>152586247
Security walls. Would make a nice wall for Trump-Sama.

>>152586247
those walls would be bretty good to generate around villages in a mod

>>152586817
Multimc and curse are mod managers.
Forge, the simply titled modloader by risumgi or whatever the fuck his name was, meddle, nova, those are mod loaders.

>>152586865
you could always make your implementation thiccer, anon

>>152586865
You can easily alter the designs abit to protect against spiderbro's or widen them a bit so you can use them as walkways. I just aimed for some variation in shape and colour palette :^)

So I installed Fastcraft, Optifine, BetterFPS, and shaders.

For the first time since I starting modding Minecraft I am managing Framerate Cap with mods and shaders. Impressive.

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>>152586247
A wall made for kangs!

>>152587273
capping your fps in minecraft results in lower fps overall anon
don't do that
do it through your graphics card settings or something

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>>152586247
Tha bastion is a flexible design and easy to make, as you just have to terraform your favourite hill a bit...

>>152586957
I said Forge. Just told him which launcher to use to help him out since he was away for a few years.

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>>152586247
Last pic: Simple dwarven design, or whatever theme you want to make of it.

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New project. Will post progress by interest or to save the thread.

>>152588720
save the thread

>>152587824
>>152587573
are those walls in the latest download?

>>152591582
There are 16 designs, just like in the overview picture.
>>152586247

>>152584151
never use anything but Forge unless you want to fracture the community and catch viruses

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i'm starting to miss the old gregtech
i had so much fun back in the versions right before he added bronze age machines.

>>152582278
tfc is easily one of my favorite mods, but I'll never play it single player. it makes serbs much more interesting since it encourages specializing which actually encourages trade
tfc 2 fucking when

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>Opening my old flat map where I used tu do my building stuff 3 years ago
Holy shit, how was my 15 yo self able to build such a minimalistic and overall nice house, and then come with the most bland and uninspired designs (3rd pic)

>>152594469
I have really fond memories of gtech back in 1.2.5
Im not alone right? that shit was cash

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(inside of the house)

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(this one)

You guys got any mods that dramatically increase difficulty whilst not being unbalanced? I'd like the look and feel of vanilla minecraft but with a bit more of a challenge. 1.10 preferred.

>>152596403
>mods
>1.10

you get to pick one

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>>152596875
>yfw my 1.10 modpack has 140 mods

>>152597546
>and they're all shit

>>152598906
>he hasn't seen cyberware

sure there aren't A LOT of really good mods, but there are a lot more since you last looked last may.

>page ten

I tried to download the direwolf20 pack from the FtB site. I unzipped it into my profile's directory in appdata. Forge says [15:55:26] [Client thread/ERROR] [FML]: The mod BigReactors (Big Reactors) requires mods [CoFHCore] to be available

I don't understand how I fucked this up. :(

>>152602416
>using ftb packs
>using the vanilla launcher
>using ftb packs with the vanilla launcher
what the fug
multimc can import that shit if you want to actually use it.

>>152602416
just put in cofhcore... problem solved

>>152602416
what the fuck are you doing

>get FTB Launcher
>DL dankwank20 pack
>get multimc
>tell multimc to import FTB packs in Settings > FTB > Track FTB Instances. tell it where FTB's files are located, for example I have mine in "E:Desktop/ftb cancer/"
>???
>you win

you mcfucked up when you DL'd an FTB pack manually, and kept fucking up unzipping it into your minecraft directory, and threw it all away using vanilla's launcher.

>>152603054
I tried and it complained about the zip not having instance.cfg, which sounds like a multimc-specific thing so wtf

>>152604017
I tried to get the FtB launcher from their site but it tried to give me some Curse thing's client instead. And I loaded that up anyway and it looks like the fucking windows 8 store in there, not a Minecraft thing.

So what's this chunk sorting bullshit and why does it keep eating away all my CPU power?

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>>152584216
>He puts the bus on the front of the controller
>Not putting the controller in the floor
>Not putting the bus on the bottom of the controller
Pic related.

>>152597546
>1.10 pack has 140 mods
>Mine has 47
The fuck kind of shitbloat are you shoving in it? I bet it's all those shitty magic mods that you're trying to peddle, I bet.

>Feel the need for a drone mod
>Find one, looks pretty good, nice content and good looking models
>1.8.9+ only, no 1.7 version
Welp, time to commit suicide

>>152608281
go to sweden and do it on mojang's front doorstep
blame them in the note

>>152606430
Because Minecraft is badly coded?

It sorts chunks to render them in the right order to avoid transparency issues, I guess.

>>152607141

there are enderio cables under there, and having the front available to dump stuff quickly in is handy. also it's just a testing world you fucking autist.

>The fuck kind of shitbloat are you shoving in it?
Magic mods are limited to AbyssalCraft, Roots and Reliquary. Admittedly there are a lot of client mods in it but I don't think there's anything I'd miss atm.

Except OpenBlocks elevators.

>>152608496
Understandable. I seriously cherrypicked the 1.10 mods quite hard and will probably not break 50 until Draconic Evolution actually provides some interesting content, or a good replacement for LogiPipes pops up.

I would say that RF Generation might be an issue, but with Mekanism in the pack I doubt that might be too much of an issue. :^)

>>152608761

Forestry, TechReborn, EnderIO, Advanced Generators, Actually Additions - plenty of power options

Why does 1.10 with half the mods run at half the framerate of 1.7.10?

>>152608957
I've got both Advanced Generators and EnderIO, along with RFTools (Endergenic). Though I'm concerned with the fact that there's no Buildcraft, so no Oil/Fuel to use for combustion generation.

>>152609187
I actually get almost double in 1.10 compared to a built-up base in 1.7.10. I honestly don't know.

is there any way to get a more in depth look at all the items I've scanned in thaumcraft? going to the primal aspects page and hovering over the aspect I want is just a bit too fiddly. plus it'd be nice to see that not only does a dispenser have 5 terra, but it also has an arbor and machina and whatnot

>>152609260
You don't really need any of those when mek's fusion reactor can be made in a couple of autism fueled days

>>152610128
I don't think I could autism that hard, especially with TAIGA in the pack as well.

Keep in mind that I'm the kind of person that would rather have Logistics Pipes instead of AE2, merely because of how Gregtech'd AE2 has become.

>>152610449
Eh, going at a reasonable pace a week is probably about right. Midgame power production may be a problem though.

>>152610551
I usually float around midgame power for a while. Over on Hoboserb I had a full 16x16x7 reactor that was off 99% of the time because "What the fuck am I going to do with goddamn 24k rf/t?" Especially with a battery that held somewhere in the realm of 5.6 Billion RF.

>>152610838

Why would you need a lot of power anyway? Esp. in 1.10 it only becomes a problem once you start making RFTools dimensions

>>152610838
I had a fusion reactor in two days, which is the only reason why I know it can be done :^) at the expense of mostly everything else though

>>152581607
More like never.

>>152610838
get one of those void miners that turn RF into ores
automate Grinding, smelting, crafting and then then destroy the items.

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>>152612204

we found 2 separate github forks being actively worked on m8

oh shit IE just released for 1.10

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>>152612796
>IE released before Railcraft

>>152612796
>IE: now even grindier and for a terrible version

>>152613439
is it really grindier? it was fucking grindy enough already

>>152614119
Judging by Direwolf's videos, nearly every multiblock structure changed, you need more steps to make wires, you need relays to connect those power things instead of wiring everything to the same point and probably more things as well.

>>152615268
But does Direwolf play vanilla IE or does he use some shitty modpack version?

IE is a major iron and copper sink, but it's not really grindy unless you're dumb enough to not automate your steel production early on.

>>152615393
It's on 1.10 Forgecraft, so I doubt there were any pack-specific changes to the mod's recipes.

>>152615268
it's a dead mod then, just like IC2

nobody is fucking learning that microcrafting is cancer and that only FTB wants it to make their modpacks last longer than a week before people are bored

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>page 10

>>152620575
>he doesn't have any screenshots to post
Why even bother

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new conveyor belts are pretty neat

>>152620743

you can still get sloped belts, right? not forced to use the vertical ones?

how do people stand to make mods for these newer versions of the game that take so long to load? every time I want to change something that needs a restart I have to sit here and rip my dick off waiting for forge to load textures and models twice like a tard

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>>152622963

NEWER IS BETTER DIDNT YOU KNOW GOSH

So Curse makes finding and downloading mods ez, but what if i decide nah fuck that I want to use the vanilla launcher or multimc? Can i just copy shit from one dir to another?

>>152625432
do you not know how to mod things without someone holding your benis every step of the way?
>download file
>open up instance
>put in directory marked mods
>run game
I dread to think what all the idiots would have done back during the days of .jar modding

>>152625432
>Can i just copy shit from one dir to another?
Yes.

>>152625653
Don't be such a catty faggot.

>>152625432
Yup. Forge creates a unique folder hierarchy so, regardless of what launcher you use for it, it still looks the exact same and runs exactly the same. It's just a matter of finding where curse saved your instance then copy and pasting the correct folders and files to your new instance provided by another launcher. I recommend using the Multimc launcher since it holds your hand better for creating and handling instances.

>>152625653
>do you not know how to mod things without someone holding your benis every step of the way?

If we're gonna be lewd, I'd rather you hold my hand, tsundere senpai.

Really though, if the answer were "no" you'd have saved me a lot of time and effort by saying so, so why not ask?

>>152625820
Thank you friend

>>152626080
>Thank you friend
Don't be such a clingy faggot. Also np.

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Told myself I would finish touching up the main part of my castle before expanding, but I'm starting to get the itch to build something new.

>>152627719
BUILD BENIS

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>>152629231
This shining black benis is nearly complete. It shall be a benis to surpass even Bible Black.

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>>152627674
what even

>>152629760
Looks like some kinda autistic hobo wizard cave.

>>152627674
Every so often I look at those 1.8 stones and think they aren't that bad. What's wrong with me?

>>152630482
the vanilla texture is garbage, but chisel's versions are alright. I use andesite a lot, but I wish diorite was less noisy. it'd look great if it wasn't hideous

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>have Block Dispensers nearly ready to go
>look on CurseForge
>see this: https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/blockdispenser

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>>152629728
Night shot.

>>152631730
Aw yeah. Really lucked out that the Thaumcraft symbol just happened to line up above the entrance.

>>152631717
The golden age of modding is over. Every mod is already made five times over. People just make them in different ways. But there hasn't been a new concept from a mod in years.

>>152631717
>Blacklist
What?

>>152632759
I just think it's funny, he's using my mod, I confirmed I was working on Block Dispensers on CurseForge, but he just makes regular Dispensers do it because "I desperately need this functionality."
>>152633142
The blacklist is for things like water and lava sources, spider webs, basically whatever you don't normally place.

Hey modder nerds, are there any guides or documentation for updating mods for 1.9 or 1.10? I'm having trouble finding anything. Like there's been plenty that document other version changes like 1.6 to 1.7 etc but these last few version have nothing. Of course just cross comparing versions and manually figuring out what needs to change to what works but that's just a pain in the ass. Even vague footnotes or outlines help expedite the process a lot.

>>152633373
Oh. I thought it was something like I blacklisted blocks from this mod because blah blah reasons.

There's a situation like that, isn't there?

>>152633451
A lot more block methods have IBlockState as a variable, and anything that has to do with item or block right-click functionality has a few more variables for things like EnumHand. That's all I can think of, off the top of my head.
>>152633481
Doesn't look that way, seems limited to vanilla blocks.

So, meming aside, can you have a fun modded experience on 1.10 now? I had an okay time on 1.8 when it was still in flux while I played on dahj's serb. Is 1.10 better than 1.8 in terms of content, or is it still in "enjoy your 1 halfass'd baby's first techmod (neotech) with 0 conveniences" mode?

>>152633451
they changed all kinds of stuff and none of it is documented

thanks, forge

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>>152632686
Ignore me I'm drunk.

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Of course I'm not using wool.

>>152634867
>>152632476
What are you doing exactly?

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>>152636204
Making this: >>152363943

>>152636349
Oh neat!

>>152612313
https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/block-quarry?gameCategorySlug=mc-mods&projectID=237714

Something like this? I won't lie, it seems like a cheaper alternative to the MFR Laser Drill, without the filters.

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Progress.

TFC or

Island Survival Map with Ships Mod and Aether?

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Bamp

I need some wisdom, /mcg/. Let's say I want to play with a new group of people and don't want them knowing my regular Minecraft name, just in case they turn out to be assholes. Do I have to use a cracked client or something? If so, I heard that screws me out of using Forge mods - is that true?

>>152640610
Ooh, the latter, definitely.

>>152640610
What edition are you playing on?

There's a pretty lick island map I've been running if you'd like a seed for your Island Survival map.

>>152641919
1.7.10

Whats the seed and what mods do I need?

>>152642259
I have no idea what mods you'd want, all I know is that this seed works from 1.7.10 up, and its still the same even if you have Thaumcraft on, but not with Biomes o Plenty.

The seed is -503127840466840210
World gen should be set to Large Biomes

You'll have a medium sized island with a forest biome at its center, and a shaft/ravine going straight down a good ways towards the north-east of spawn (you spawn facing south)

I'll upload a picture of it in a few minutes

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>Remember I used to play on Dah's server
>Really getting that itch to play modded minecraft again with a friend
>Look around the servers
>OH IT'S STILL HERE
>Dynmap isnt working
>oh no
>It doesn't work
>None of the others servers work/are appealing

W..Welp..

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>>152643020
No reason anon, I did it.

Very impressive find!

Speaking of seeds, anyone know a good Twilight Forest seed? Seems like I can never find a glacier or enchanted forest.

>>152643483
Its honestly a wonderful little island; enough to where you're not going to struggle just to get the basics, but not enough to just camp there forever.

As for mods I'd recommend;
Archimede's ships (You can make airships and waterships with this mod that are multi-block, but be warned that the second you choose to play with friends it becomes so laggy as to not be playable.)
Journeymap
Twilight Forest
Veinminer

And that's all I can say for basic mods; these all add in fun things without leaning too far towards either magic or technology, but are somewhat a mix of both. I would suggest you at least look at a few of the various mods around just to see what you like, but those mods will get you started.

On that note; does anyone know if Twilight Forest is being redone for more recent versions?

>>152643778
Why not Ships by Cuchaz?

>>152643778
>does anyone know if Twilight Forest is being redone for more recent versions?
Very limited activity on the mod authors github last time I checked. He's not even finishing the last dungeon in the mod, let alone porting everything to 1.9 or 1.10.

>>152643778
>>152644021
1.8 obliterated the majority of modders' motivation to continue their mods. Even the ones who ported don't seem to have any passion left.

I truly think that we're witnessing the death of modded Minecraft. Enjoy it while it lasts, boys.

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I wish I could make Thaumium sheet metal...

>>152643952
I was just suggesting Archimedes's because I have experience with it, if you have another hip mod in mind then feel free.

>>152644021
>>152644160
That's unfortunate to say the least

>>152620743
Which radar mod is that?

>>152643483
>>152643778
Anyone got a seed with an archipelago? Those could be cool for survival.

>>152644160
They could have defied the king neckbeard and stayed on 1.7.10, but nope, they just had to blindly follow him into the bottomless hole. Won't say I'm glad it's over but I can't say I'm sad over this happening either.

>>152644979
the inevitable outcome where lex and slowpoke and the rest of the hired circlejerk are tossed out on their asses when Curse doesn't need them anymore is all the satisfaction we can take from it

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One more for the night.

I bee-lining straight for a Mekanism Digital Miner, got any tips?
I've got tons of Yellorium for a generator, but im not sure what else i should be going for

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EIO conduits are cheap, configurable, and their version of the facade blocks flawlessly hide with the 'real' blocks, including connected textures.

These are making me wet. Why haven't I used them before?

Is ICBM functional for 1.7 these days? I want to destroy the world.

>>152647462
IIRC the facades from Thermal Dynamics also correctly interact with connected textures, and they don't require clay to make so I prefer using them sometimes.

>>152647513
>ICBM functional

Calclavia's version is dead in the water, but DefenseTech by the same author for Mekanism is alive and kicking. Only problem is you need at least the base Mekanism mod plus FMP for it to work.

>>152647726
That's what I used to use. But in my experience they didn't at least not with chisel blocks. It connected to adjacent facades, but not the 'real' ones.

Plus, clay isn't that hard to find on my worldgen.

>>152647775
I see. What about http://builtbroken.com/pages/icbm/ ?

So I finally tried the windows 10 edition out of sheer boredom.

How is it that microsoft manages to fuck it up completely with their DLC Bullshit, and STILL manage to make a better version than mojang?

Seriously, the sheer smoothness of how it runs alone is almost enough to make me overlook all that fucking nonsense with the in-game app store.

If they throw ANYTHING resembling some actual fucking mod support, maybe some ACTUAL FUCKING SERVERS, and I would happily jump ship.

>>152648404
>don't bother/10
The other alternative is this: https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/fission-warfare

I'm surprised how well HGaM's ghosts fit with the vanilla monsters.

>>152650058
What process fo you use for your construction ?
Do you simply expand randomly with dirt around the tiny lake ?
Why not genrating a big half sphere with world edit or whatever the fuck else and carve your project in it ?

>>152648636
Windows 10 Edition is the port of version made for mobile phones. Also, it's not Microsoft's, it's still Mojang's - just a different team inside Mojang.

>>152644160
Most of the modders who left during 1.7.10 left for reasons other than 1.8 - I did the research once. There are a few who did (the most notable one being immibis), and a few who are not interested in moving to 1.8 (mostly Reika) but most just took a longer break and slowly came back to it.

>>152633743
>>152633451
Official Forge documentation: https://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
Less official: http://modwiki.temporal-reality.com/mw/index.php/Main_Page
Updating notes:
* 1.8.9->1.9: https://github.com/kashike/migration/wiki/1.8.9-to-1.9
* 1.9->1.9.4: https://github.com/kashike/migration/wiki/1.9-to-1.9.4

>>152616916
Actually, the main reason is that the previous attempts at balancing mods were universally rejected by the community while microcrafting wasn't so it stuck.

>>152644350

journeymap, just made it smaller

there's nothing else that can be placed down similarly to redstone dust, is there? really wish you could do the same with things like lapis and gunpowder for aesthetics desu

>>152655160
>PlaceableGunpowder
>GlowstoneWire
Yep. Imagine that.

>>152655160
Only string.

>>152586247
Aw shit that's pretty fucking neat. If you pixelized those they'd look great in an RTS/TS strategy game.

Will blowing up multiple singularities work for entangling all of them?
I want to have one main quantum ring on an orbiting space station that links into all the places I live/visit like my main town, a fortress to the south, mining dimension etc. Will that work? or do I have to use different quantum entang singularities for each different location/dimension?

>Mojang's own YouTube channel taken down for trademark infringement
Shouldn't have gone with Microsoft.

https://www.youtube.com/user/TeamMojang

I recently started playing Tekkit Classic again, and It feels like I'm playing minecraft for the first time again

sup /mcg/?
pitfall here

>>152662295
why no ultimate

>>152662591
ultimate?

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MAXIMUM NIGGERDRIVE

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Dear ProjectRed,
THIS is how you make a volcano.

>>152664718
needs more boom
and waifus

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>>152664718

>>152663619
you are like a little babby

you have not yet begun to meme

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>>152661684

>>152612421
They are not forks and they are not actively being worked.

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>>152661684

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This is really starting to annoy me. I can't seem to get a world to spawn that isn't just dominated by Mushroom 'islands'.

>>152667119

did you remember to use the bop worldtype?

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>>152667119
>This is really starting to annoy me. I can't seem to get a world to spawn that isn't just dominated by Mushroom 'islands'.
what
>dominated by Mushroom 'islands'
what

>>152667265
I'm trying to use the RTG worldtype

>>152664718
I'd like lava in a caldera rather than oozing from the top.

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>>152667358
I still like pic above better than pic related.

>>152667320
>'island'
>surrounded by land.

>>152669185
I get that bit, but how the fuck does one get innundated with the rarest biome type?

>>152651349
Oh shit, thanks anon.

>>152669353
Trying to figure that out now. I'm making a server I want to use RTG but I keep getting this shit.

>>152654650
That's pretty cool. I like the way the tech stuff is hidden behind all the rustic stuff. That IE lantern looks unusual. What textures are you using?

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>>152650338
I use a random mesh to get started, and whatever area I see fit for a lake or a pond, I fill it. And you can generate a half sphere? With what seed or mod?

>>152667119
Have you removed the BoP jar from the mods folder? It tends to interfere and want attention like a child

>>152670351
I really think that you're biting off more than you can chew trying to build that island by hand. Check out WorldPainter.

>>152670127
That's a 'custom' John Smith pack I made from combing through the community additions on the github that aren't in the official download.

>>152661798
dinnerbone slobbered all over every version after 1.2.5, that's why

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>>152671128
Meant to post this too.

>>152666083
explain this?

>>152670976
Trust me, I've made considerable progress. Granted, it's a big project, but there IS progress being made.

Still, that WorldPainter program looks interesting enough.

>>152670351
simply install forge and put worldedit in mods (not available for 1.10 atm btw)
>open chat and type "//sphere 64 1" for a sphere of diameter 128 made out of stone
>select the upper part (left and right clicking with a wooden axe to form a coboid containing the area you want to selct
>type "//cut" and it's done, you got a big ol' half sphere

also >>152670976 is kinda wright, but I never used worldpainter myself so ...

>Config offers option the change biome ids to fix conflicts.
>Change the id to something open.
>Id stays old value once the game starts.
Reeeeeeee

>>152671264
Actually, Dinnerbone was hired during 1.2's development process.

>>152673001
and he did grunt work until they thought he could handle it. 1.3 was the result.

>>152673793
1.3 was one of the best changes ever for SMP players. I know, as I ran modded servers since 1.2.3...

>>152673843
if we could have 1.2.5 today it wouldn't be as bad. think about it, you had to install modloader, forge, and bukkit in one big clusterfuck. you would have one api today and they would have come up with a clean way of doing client and server mods.

>>152664718
>>152665137
what mod?

>>152674439
You never really needed Bukkit, and FML was already a thing in 1.2.5 - it was created between Minecraft 1.2.3 and 1.2.5, to be exact.

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>>152677064

>>152677321
Realistic Terrain Generation.

The volcano is made of obsidian, coal blocks (super handy), as well as BoP ash and ash blocks.

>>152678208
Several mods only had Bukkit server versions. That's why Tekkit Classic uses Bukkit.

>>152679489
obligatory
>console
>taking pictures of your screen

Nigga, your planes are pretty cool and all, but imagine what you could do with aesthetic/building mods like chisel, carpenter's blocks and chisel&bits/microblocks - as well as some fancy shaders

>>152679560
No, that's incorrect. Tekkit uses Bukkit because Minecraft 1.2.5 had even less admin commands than we have now.

There is literally no mod which only had a Bukkit server version (except MorePlayerModels, I think?), because all of them were made by porting the vanilla server version using a remapping tool and manually adding in Bukkit hooks as necessary.

>>152680539
>literally no mod which only had a Bukkit server version

That's not true because there was always controversy over modders using one or the other.

>>152679875
i would get it for my laptop but i heard its optimized as fuck idk if it can handle it

if i can run new vegas vanilla could i run mc?

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im going to start working on the panzer base now

gimme a week or so i'll have it done

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>>152683116
>console version

>>152683941
because i have a console

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>>152684306
>he has a console
>he bought a console instead of upgrading his pc

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>try 1.7.10 modding
>half the things I want have updated versions in 1.10.2 but not 1.7.10
>try 1.10.2 modding
>half the things I want have no 1.10.2 support

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>>152684845
its a laptop, not a pc

>>152680965
Every single Bukkit port was created from a vanilla server port. I've archived a lot of 1.2.5 mods, and while there were many modders who refused to provide Bukkit versions of the mods, I am not aware of a case where the *vanilla* one was not provided.

>>152685082
>1.7 comes out
>all is good
>1.8 comes out
>mods split into two versions
>1.9 comes out
>mods split into three
>1.10 comes out
>even more fragmentation
>1.11 soon

The only winning move is to go back to 1.4.7.

>>152685813
>1.6.4 comes out
>all is good
>1.7.2 comes out
>mods split into two versions
>1.7.10 come sout
>mods split into three versions

>>152680539
bukkit and vanilla were so different that you couldn't just run a mod through a tool and output a bukkit mod. it wasn't only a mappings thing.

>>152685984
Only mods left in 1.6 were ded ones, like Traincraft and that retarded zelda mod. And 1.7.2 vas a minor version. The transition from 1.7 to 1.8 was much much more polarizing. It just got worse and worse since then.

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>>152581389
Hey, guys. 4craft v9 is coming out soon!
Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/tdDak
Be sure to add /vg/ in front of your nickname to show what clan you're a part of.
WE WILL GROW AND BECOME THE FUCKING STRONK

>>152686719
nobody wanted 1.7 though, never at any point did they say "we need XXX and YYY in 1.6.4"

people updated because ftb and lex told them to.

>>152687320
Yeah that's why I told you that we should go back to 1.4.7.

>>152687458
1.5 was better for modders though, and 1.6 made it a little better. that's why it's the last good version.

>>152686719
>And that retarded zelda mod
Dartcraft? Because I believe it's coming again soon.

>>152687320
Threadly reminder that Mojang shut off use of the old Authentication servers in 1.7.5 in favor of the new Mojang servers. That's why you don't log in using your Minecraft name, but your Mojang Account. Also name changes are a thing, so you can get rid of the "XxPuSsYsLaYeRxX" that your 12 year old self did.

>>152687674
>Mojang shut off use of the old Authentication servers in 1.7.5

I don't know who or why this myth keeps being spread but it's bullshit. You can still load up a Tekkit Classic server and connect just fine.

>>152581389
NEW THREAD
>>152686660 →

>>152688138
...That's incredibly weird, unless Mojang did some retroactive bullshit. I remember that we had to shut down our Monster server because of this, and migrate an entire server over to DW20 1.7, which didn't fly too well.

I know that if you disable the authentication requirement you can do it, since that bypasses needing the auth token, but opens up the server to cracked/pirated clients.

>>152688235
Am I being rused here?
We've got like 500 more posts

>>152686215
Yes, but it always started with a "mappings thing" - then you edited the decompiled, post-mapping-transposition code and added Bukkit hooks.

Back in the day, I made a mod port to 1.2.5 as the official porter for said mod was busy with life, so I roughly know how it's done.

>>152688235
fuck off

>>152688520
yes
it's literally just to shill those shits servers as the first post

>>152688395
authentication works fine in 1.2.5

>>152688662
maybe that would work for simple mods but bukkit wasn't the vanilla server so bukkit mods were usually made from scratch, and why some didn't make anything except the bukkit version

>>152688989
No, you're wrong. Bukkit *is* the vanilla server, with a lot of patches. What MCPC did is integrate Forge patches under Bukkit mappings into Bukkit.

You're thinking of Bukkit /plugins/. Plugins and mods are fundamentally different in both structure (plugins use a dedicated API, mods hook into Minecraft directly) and functionality (plugins are usually server-side-only).

>>152688848
...Incredibly strange. I'm guessing that Mojang changed it so that all versions can use the new auth system. Because it definitely didn't work years ago, when they effectively killed Monster.

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>>152688235
>1 IP

>>152689148
if you look at the old bukkit sources you'll see that the bukkit server was an old server that they updated over time to work like the vanilla server. it wasn't a direct decompile of the latest versions.

>>152686719
ZSS or Dartcraft?
I like both

>>152689363
That is incorrect. Bukkit's code was always based on the Minecraft sources of the version it was targetting, with a few exceptions around 1.7 and 1.8 when the small amount of changes made it possible to release patches to the previous version's server first in order to let servers function while Bukkit updated in peace.

In fact, CraftBukkit was always a diff of this repo: https://github.com/Bukkit/mc-dev

Case in point: https://gitlab.prok.pw/Mirrors/CraftBukkit/blob/08e2923bd4282579ca0cf7af0e6207cba0591e5c/pom.xml depends on "org.bukkit.minecraft-server:1.2.5", which is applying files from https://gitlab.prok.pw/Mirrors/CraftBukkit/tree/08e2923bd4282579ca0cf7af0e6207cba0591e5c/src/main/java/net/minecraft/server to the mc-dev repo mentioned above. Updates were done by finding changed classes and copying and pasting the "//CraftBukkit"-marked portions to the newer version, perhaps with some automated tools to help.

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Did you know that Erebus adds a smoothie machine with a bunch of different recipes?

I need to get off my ass and get down to that creepy bug world.

>>152693910
>Grind up a bunch of bugs
>Drink them
Sounds goat.

Can I find an insect queen, stick auto milkers on her and turn her into my insect honey smoothie ticket? Or line up all the children she births into a conveyor that feeds into my smoothie grinder? Which is also hooked up to a remote tesseract system that feeds the smoothies directly from my helmet into my mouth as I fly around slaughtering and enslaving other insect kingdoms clad in carcasses of past insect king's carapaces. I never really played Erebus but that sounds really fun right now.

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>>152694562
Yeah you totes can go install it now

>make a few RFTools dimensions with different digits to make sure they aren't the same
>all of them give me slowness and mining fatigue even when I use the effect none dimlet
Well shit

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>>152694562
Actually yes, you can do pretty much all of that.

>>152694562
Wasn't this the plot to the matrix?

What is the worst mod you guys have ever played?

>>152695162
Draconic Evolution
I was reeled in by that dank energy ball, but rest of the mod is utter shit.

>>152695162
Thaumcraft 3

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>>152695162
thaumic potatoes

>>152695162
Immersive Engineering. Almost entirely due to being an overrated microcrafty IC2 clone that's entirely unbalanced compared to all other tech mods.

>>152695162
buttania

And what is the best mod you guys have ever played?

>>152696732
RTG

>>152696732
SDK gun mod

rip :'(

>>152696732
BTW

>>152687674
>Because I believe it's coming again soon.
It isn't. The author instead made a mod called Full Throttle Alchemist, which has a few features from Dartcraft, even more terrible high-resolution textures, and a strange alchemy system where you decompose items into basic elements for research and can later combine them into new things. It also has lightsabers for some reason.

>>152696732
gregtech
and my own mods

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>>152696642
Oh it's you again. You sure do have a hate boner for IE.

>>152696732
In some subjective order:

Redpower 2 for 1.2.5 - it was cool as fuck doing huge towers of lava using pumps, no wire mess because electric blocks shared energy, world-eating machines were hard but cool to design, or even the mossy cobble generators. It was simply nice, you know? I still use Thermal Expansion + Immibis' + Remain in Motion as the poor man's RP2.

Thaumcraft 4 - it extends vanilla gameplay with a magic feel, but it's still an industrial mod at its core. I've spent long hours with it, from the research system (not that great, I admit) to other stuff.

Better than Wolves - yes, post-"hardcore". It's hard, sometimes frustrating, and if you play it dumb you're gonna grind like there is no tomorrow. But if you use all opportunities given to automatize stuff and try to progress at a slow but steady pace, the game's tech tree opens up a thousand possibilities. And everything feels so "simple" yet so "right".

Terrafirmacraft - I like the world revamp aspect, and the mod manages to immerse you as no other mod can do. It gets repetitive over time, but the first time you play it...

>>152699409
fuck back off to count your patreon bucks, nobody here cares about your mod

>>152701380
Who exactly do you think I am? BluSunrise? Are you really that much of a deluded faggot to think anyone other than Vazkii would bother coming here to bicker? Go back to proofreading your manifesto about that digital lego mod you love to seethe over.

>>152701380
IE really is completely unbalanced in regards to everything else (on the opposite end - things are much more expensive than they should be), but at the very least all its blocks look great. It's that reason alone that forces me to keep using it.

>>152704449
I wish we lived in a world where modders tried to balance around the Coal Standard, but we don't. You shouldn't expect 2 mods to balance with each other right out of the box.

Immersive Engineering doesn't try to circumvent Modtweaker. That should be enough. The player is responsible for either using the mod in a way that's balanced with their other mods or taking the time to code in the changes they want.

how is IE more unbalanced than TE machines for example? fully upgraded those kill, and they're just a single magical block

>>152705065
>balance around the Coal Standard
...?

>>152704449
as opposed to ticon, which is lacking in style AND totally fucking busted.

>>152705065
the whole idea that everyone should have to learn to code to use mine/modtweaker to rework mods to make them not horribly be out of whack relative to eachother is fucking retarded. while things shouldn't be expected to be perfectly in line with eachother from the start, that does not mean mods should be put together with costs/payouts all helterskelter because HURR MODTWEEKR.
shit should be aimed for a moderate baseline and have shit tons of config options for all that, instead.

also, you're probably the only person in the world who babbles about "The Coal Standard" so expecting everyone to balance around your personal center-of-relevance is also retarded.

>>152705665
One coal in vanilla furnace allows for 8 smelting actions, so this is how much power it should produce, 8 processing actions worth per one coal.
And now you realise geothermal generators would be the most broken shit ever more than they ever were, with 100 actions per bucket.

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FYI, guys, the new version of Better With Mods with the Block Dispenser is live.

>>152705665
he's got this thing in his head that everything should be balanced around the fact that one piece of coal smelts eight pieces of ore in vanilla.

>>152705406
IE machines have a huge cost to produce for what they do. he's not saying they pay out massively. reading comprehension, anon.

>>152705907
Nice.
What features from BTW are already implemented?
And what are your modpack policies? [Deny/private only/allow public]

>>152705065
Tell me more about the coal standard you said.

How does it balance, for example, RF production?

>>152705869
oh.
OH
and what's the exchange rate for TE already (basic machines, no upgrades) for a full ore process (grind+(smelt*2))? (using the basic coal dynamo, ofc)
what about EIO and BC?

>>152706310
Most of the machines, save the Pulley and Screw Pump are in, and most of the mechanics from Beta 1.7.3 (and some from beyond) are in. My modpack policy's basically "whatever," as long as no one tries to make money by putting the blocks or items up in a server cash shop.

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>>152705798
>complains about mods not balancing with each other
>mocks the Coal Standard
Lol you contradicting yourself, but you're too stupid to even realize it. You're like an angry child tearing up a napkin. If you want balance across mods, you want the Coal Standard. If you don't want mods to balance, then why are you even bitching?

Also the syntax that Modtweaker requires is about as hard as basic HTML. If you can't figure that out, you're a fucking idiot who doesn't deserve any further regard.

Alright, I've started up a Hardcore survival with minimal mods, what are some fun things to try and accomplish in a world with a single life?

>>152707891
>gets told why the coal standard is shit
>you're just a big doo doo head for not liking it
the coal standard is a lazy and hamfisted one size fits all approach to balance

>>152708191
>>gets told why the coal standard is shit
Please quote the post in which you discuss the Coal Standard. All I can find is the post of you bitching about how all the cool kids like you think its dumb.

Maybe just fuck off, cool kid.

>>152706780
Nice. I'm planning to create a modpack, some blocks from BTW would be really useful. (Specially the block dispenser.)

>>152708312
This >>152705869 and my own post. And you've not provided an argument of why it is good beyond namecalling everyone who disagrees with you

>>152707891
I'm mocking YOU for being suprised that something only you seem to talk about isn't widely agreed upon, dingus. try getting people somewhere other than /mcg/ to care, and once they do, then cry about lack of adoption. this sure as hell isn't the root of changing the scene, we can't even get enough motivation together to do something about lex despite everyone here except assie agreeing he's cancer and needs to be excised.

and shove your playground-tier "ur stupid I don' hafta lissen to u!" shit back up your ass where it came from.

>>152696732
terrafirmacraft

>>152705798
>>152707891
"The coal standard" would actually work; as it would any other shit. Really, we just need some vanilla base to do it.

Note there is already an informal standard around Fortune 3, the reason we get ore doubling.

However, the coal standards should be used only as, well, a standard. It's fine to break from it if there are reasons.

c-can't you just edit configs and enforce it? most mods have adjustable RF rates for their machines. of course that goes out the window with shit like solar power.

>>152712195
>c-can't you just edit configs and enforce it? most mods have adjustable RF rates for their machines.
He can. But it would solve balance only for mods that allow such configs.

>of course that goes out the window with shit like solar power.
Actually you can make an equivalency based on area vs. wood production. I can explain the math if you want.

>>152712195
>>152712487
A tree takes something like 3 days to grow and it's something like 6 wood logs tall. So constant tree farming will output roughly 0.5 coal per day per square.

If the solar panel produces the same amount of energy as half block of coal per day, it'll break even.

Of course. Modders might want to raise the value to make it more attractive... or reduce it to cope with the lack of maintenance needed.

>>152705406
Ie machines are magical blocks too. just bigger ones.

"multiblocks" are a fucking shitty meme if they just act like a more space consumptive furnace. The only good multiblocks are ones where every individual block of the machine performs it's own function, and they combine together for a fully customized, non-cookie cutter machine.

>>152713223
>The only good multiblocks are ones where every individual block of the machine performs it's own function, and they combine together for a fully customized, non-cookie cutter machine.
THIS. THIS. SO MUCH THING.

>>152713223
can you give of example of something like that?

all I can think of similar to that idea is a cobbleworks. am I on the right track or am I just a retard?

>>152708569
The only thing that breaks the coal standard is lava, really, so something could be done in regards to it given how modded MC has so many ways to carry lava around or get it in first place, unlike vanilla which is the basis for it.
>>152713223
Funnily enough, the Japanese Multi-Block Mod is something like that despite having that name
http://forum.minecraftuser.jp/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=31081
It's kinda complicated, but it lets you choose individual pieces that can do quite a few things to form a bigger multi-block structure.

>>152714335
That's closer to the right tracks. I'd say by /mcg/ standards, it's good use of "magical blocks" to make a good system.

redpower's frame system was a good example. combining frames, motors, block breaksters, and various transport systems to make a quarry that isn't the buildcraft sort.

Maybe a less good example of a multiblock that isn't literally a blueprinted machine is tcon's smeltery. it still serves a straight forward, mostly singular purpose, but you can scale it from a 1x1x1 interior to a 7x7xworldheight monstrousity, and can chose where to put your inputs and outputs.

Going to go out on a limb and risk getting memed on for unpopular opinions, but many systems in botania are part-by-part if you get into more than "drop coal on endo flame for all your mana needs". the corporea system hooked into autocrafting especially.

>>152708569
>getting upset over namecalling
Cry more.

The argument for the Coal Standard makes itself. The only "argument" (read as:shitposting) against it is that it's not perfect already. No shert, Shitlock. That's why it needs to be developed.

I'm advocating for the concept of a coal-based power standard. I do so because it's the absolute most basic power in the vanilla game. Of course it will never really happen, but it's good to dream, isn't it?

>>152715089
>Going to go out on a limb and risk getting memed on for unpopular opinions, but many systems in botania are part-by-part if you get into more than "drop coal on endo flame for all your mana needs". the corporea system hooked into autocrafting especially.

[average /mcg/er]
WAAAAAAAAHHHH HOW DARE YOU TO SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT A MOD I HATE? FUCK OFF! FUCK OFF! MIGHT AS WELL PLAY CREATIVE! KILL YOURSELF!
[/average /mcg/er]

I agree with you, there are plenty interesting systems, mechanics and features in certain mods hated by plenty people on /mcg/. I don't mess with Botania, but from what I've seen, this is unrelated to the criticisms people often make.

Also people here don't set "this mod isn't made for my playstyle" and "this mod is bad" apart. This applies specially to BTW, the mod is actually good if you're in a certain player niche.

>>152715089
desu I don't understand all the hate for botania. the hate for vazkii is completely understandable as he's pretty insufferable, but botania is pretty neat.

>>152716929
>Of course it will never really happen, but it's good to dream, isn't it?
Bug modders (specially the ones in the circlejerk) enough for that and it'll happen.

I'm considering how to balance stuff as a quarry for that, though.

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tick tock
time is running out

>>152702494
I do think you're one of the people involved with making the mod, because nobody else would get so massively asshurt when someone points out all the problems that broken-ass gimmicky mod has. Get a real job.

>>152717537
Ayy lmao

That's kind of impressive how they can imagine up the most dicked paywalls possible. Like really, what kind of morbid crap can they pull off next? Clicking a hyperlink URL requires a premium account?

>>152715089
I only got as far as 'coal on endo' for buttania, but its active flowers are pretty interesting with lots of permutations for what a person could use.

>>152716929
>argument makes itself
so a standard just makes itself and becomes acceptable because it says 'Standard'?

what about when charcoal only smelted 7? what if I want a charcoal standard, and it should exist because its an easily renewed resource that makes itself
does that mean I have an argument for a standard?

what about a redstone standard? Power can only be transmitted 15 blocks before requiring a repeater, therefore mods should adopt a system based on '15 and repeat' for all power transmission. it argues itself because it exists in vanilla that way!


the 'coal standard' is a neat idea, but claiming it argues itself and mods should base from that is narrow-minded and pretty arrogant. like, people want to do more stuff with what's there. coal is also the ONLY power in vanilla.
redstone controls analog/digital calculations which is sort of power. but you can't cook with redstone, therefore redstone is not power.

>current year
>still arguing about the 'coal standard' stupid shit that literally only 1 retard cares about
wew

>>152717798
Not him (also, he's being a jerk and a faggot), but.

The convenience of the coal standard would be having something in vanilla for all mods to refer to - the power of coal. RF isn't reliable for that purpose, since each mod uses different rates for production and consumption.

>>152716929
>my argument makes itself and anyone who disagrees is just a shitposter!
you wouldn't make it on a debate team, faggot.

Nth for old hobo please make a pack

>>152718430
Anon, I think I have some bad news for you...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

>>152719708
Actually at least three - the ideas guy, >>152719318 and me.

>>152719318
>what about when charcoal only smelted 7?
A charcoal is worth 7/8 CS. Done.

>what if I want a charcoal standard
It doesn't really matter which vanilla item you use as standard, as long as there is one.

>what about a redstone standard? Power can only be transmitted 15 blocks before requiring a repeater
The question is, "what are you trying to achieve with this?". There's a good reason behind a coal standard - solve energy consumption/production irregularity between mods - but what would a redstone standard solve?

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>>WAAAAAH!!! Mods aren't balanced against a standard unit!

>hey guys, how about we use this arbitrary unit

>>WAAAAAH!!! No! Why use that arbitrary unit when we could use this other one?!?! Checkmate, atheists!

>>152720647
>arguing with autists
what did you expect anon.

Hey guys, i put several mods together on my forge install and eventually ran into a consistent crash I can't figure out. Where's a good place to ask someone to look at my crash report?

>>152723772
alright i'll bite, paste the entire log to pastebin and link it here.

>>152723772
here, /r/feedthebeastcrashes.

google

paste your crashlogs on pastebin or something and post the link here.

>>152723864
>>152723996
http://pastebin.com/YcuMLqbp
I get this crash consistently when I click on the right block of Mystcraft writing desk (and only the right block; the left block works). Any insight is appreciated.

>>152724643
Not much we can do to help you, looks like the issue is entirely the code of mystcraft, I wasn't aware there was a new version so it might just be buggy.

>>152720258
>used to getting wrecked
>always fights back with "ur projecting"
>too dumb to realize that's not a valid response in this situation

No circlejerkers allowed, faggot. Get a real job.

>>152725051
Oh shit, you're right. It's a known issue https://github.com/XCompWiz/Mystcraft-Issues/issues/168 At least there's a workaround.

Thanks for your help.

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What to add? What to remove?
My laptop is a toaster, with these mods I get around 30/25 fps.

>>152717537
Truly 1.7.10 was the end. Things can only get horribly worse from this point onward.

>>152727951
1.6.4 was the end, 1.7.10 was the distraction

>page ten

>>152732740
>doesn't like being on page 10

>>152732740
>page 10
>1.7.10
>latest is 1.10

it really does mean the end

>>152730309
1.4.7 was the end
1.6.4 was the 5 minutes of brain activity after death

>>152733925
Then 1.7.10 was the artificial reanimation that was a success at first, but made people way so greedy that they tried to extend it past it expiration date. That's how 1.8+ happened and we all know what came out of them.

>>152696732
StorageDrawers

yo what minimap do you all use these days? I really like JourneyMap

>>152736590
I use journeymap because I like the waypoints in the world and mobs on the minimap, but I think mapwriter is 10 times better. allows you to zoom out more, looks nicer, has waypount grouping, doesn't have too much shit

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>>152736590
Xaero's.
Only downside is the lack of a world map, which JourneyMap does better. Otherwise, the vanilla feel of it is great.

What's your favorite mc version, guys?
I'm still on 1.8.8, don't know if I'll ever switch

>>152736119
No 1.7.10 was the unwanted sequel where the previous death was all a dream and 1.8.2 was the reimagining where all the guns are replaced with walkie talkies.

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>worry

>>152743174
Whatever happened with that map maker that was "xd such a trolllll"? Haven't seen him mentioned in a long time.

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Burp

Anyone know the Ip for Ipwnage serb?
Their only link is their webpage and a blank ip address

why is asie upset about curse bucks? did someone call him out for shilling for curse again the other day?

>>152747601
link