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our official guy edition

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://tempostorm.com
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/
https://manacrystals.com/
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/category/analysis/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/
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Autism.
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Rooftrellen
>Is fat
>Got horrible haircut
>Looks like peter griffin
>Awful voice
>Hideous smile
>Acne in face

HOWEVER

>Plays and wins in Hearthstone tournaments
>Is going to the Blizzcon tournament
>Full golden decks
>Wins rematchs despite shaddy DCs
>GOT A GIRLFRIEND

/hsg/, do you even compare? What are you doing? This guy is more successful that you all.

How you explain this?
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any new amazon app deals come out?
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>>152501463
>golden darkfisher
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5 secret priest


When the enemy hit more than 7 damage.You take control of the the minion with the highest attack in the enemy field.
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>abar took priest HP
what the hell were the other choices?
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>>152501526
I just have sex with strangers.
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>>152501526
I started HS like few months ago and I have a boyfriend.
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>>152501718
Pala and War.
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This game = Joke
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>shaman sure is balanced -Ben Brode
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>>152501539
Why do you need amazon app deals? I got over 500 packs for free during the hay day promotion. You should never have to buy anything again if you were smart.
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>start new account
>playing basic mage with a few cards from packs
>rank 24
>play against netdecked aggro Shaman

WHO ARE THESE PLAYERS? DO THEY JUST SPEND HUNDREDS ON CARDS AND NEVER RANK OUT OF THE 20S???
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>"I-I was too fast"
>"No, no, you were perfect!"

Damn these casters sound like me and my gf if I had one
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>>152501731
Do you have a feminine dick?
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>>152501718
Paladin's, which is shit in the matchup because of UTH, even totems are better because most have 2 health and beneficial effects.
The other was armor up.
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>tfw you will never be as handsome and Kibler
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>Rexxar
>Rexxar
>Rexxar
>Rexxar
>Morgl
>Thrall
>Rexxar
>Rexxar

WHY IS EVERYONE PLAYING HUNTER AGAIN?
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>>152501830

I missed it.
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>>152501895
No.
It's pretty masculine but I keep it in check.
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>>152501998
turns out call of the skill is pretty balanced
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>>152501830
>hay day promotion
I just started playing again 2 days ago. What did I miss?
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>>152501526
I didn't just give up on my dreams, I gave up on dreaming. I don't have anything left that I want in my life.

He has things in his life he enjoys. I don't anymore. That's what happened.
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>Handsome
>Articulate
>Has a cute doggo
>One of the most knowledgeable players in the game
>Shitloads of professional experience across multiple games
>Actual cardmaking experience with Magic and now Duelyst

Why do people dislike Kibler?
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>>152501983
>tfw you will always be too shy to capitalize on your handsomeness
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>>152501998
If you Highmane on 6, coint and Call of the Balance on turn 7 and 8 you won the game.
If you Highmane on 6 and 7 and CotW on 8, you won the game.
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>>152502180
>>152502073
lmao
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>>152501998
Cheapest actually viable deck to make since it requires 0 adventures. Has a good match-up with le angry red man of armor.
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>>152502260
drugs are degenerate
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are yogg druid, token druid, and ramp druid all the same deck?
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0SBlSFBeSg
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>>152502260
he's a shill
Brian "please don't call me Brian "Blizzard Shill" Kibler" Kibler Kibler
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>>152502260
they don't
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>>152502403
ramp is different. yogg druid is just token druid +yogg
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>>152502260
I only saw a few priest videos of his and he really is handsome. Also good music. Might watch more.
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What should I do with all this?
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>>152502403
Yogg druid and token druid are very similar, though they differ in regards to a few key cards.
I don't know if there is any specific ramp druid deck in this meta that is not a full-on astral communion meme, or shit.
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fuck u all for supporting this shitty pay to win unbalanced game made by jews who cant even balance and introduce wild to solve their problems. pay them more faggots.
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>>152502658
meme with it
it's not a particularly good card but it's fun
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>Yogg is balanced because you have to build your deck around him
what other things do Shieldbearers say?
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>>152502658
disenchant. those are garbage cards that will never see any play.
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>>152502658
disenchant golden legendaries unless they're really good AND you don't have a plain version
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>>152502260
because reddit like him
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>>152502658
Dust everything except for the rare.
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>>152502260
all those ads he puts in his video with that silly american shill face get me nervous
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>>152502658
Make a golden n'zoth hunter deck for your new golden waifu!
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>>152502658
and here i am all level 200 and got 1 legendary literally fuck this game i bet the ones that pay get a better chance at getting legendaries
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>>152502890
>Arcane Golem
LUL
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should hearthstone add the ability to shuffle your hand so that your opponent doesn't know what you topdecked?
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anyone want to trade play a friend quests so we get 160 g?
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Should I?
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>>152502812
>Discarding your deck is fine just pretend you didn't draw that card
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>>152502754
show me where Brode touched you
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Holy shit this deck completely BTFOs those cancerous revive priest decks. 6 in 6 so far
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Cora looks thirsty af desu
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>>152502890
>look at this deck I copied from Reynad

Go away
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>>152502969
If you play priest, paladin or warrior control variant, yes.
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>>152502969
Depends, how badly do you want to play control warrior when tempo/dragon warrior is a lot better?
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>>152502969
If you want to HEH GREETINGS then go for it.
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>>152502658
Oh, just realized it was a hunter card and not a neutral. Shit, disenchant it is. Gonna craft either Xaril or Edwin with it, if I'm making an N'Zoth Rogue which is easier to play without?
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>>152502969
huge card in c'thun warrior, which is probably the only viable control deck right now
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Anyone want to rate my Good Stuff™ Arcane Golem Warrior deck? It's not strictly OTK, it's more of a "vomit out your hand in a smart way for 7 turns, then play good stuff and Alex+threaten 15 damage lethal over and over"

>>152502954
this time i posted the deck

>>152503030
no way man, look at all these tech switches and shit, it's completely unique and no one thought of this
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>>152502846
I have Golden Grommash, Golden Edwin, Golden Deathwing. Don't have normal versions of any of them.

You really suggest that I disenchant them?
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>>152503030
gaynad plays cycle not good stuff
>>152503203
arcane golem is a 3 mana 4/4
you don't play it
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>>152502812
>overload counts as part of the mana cost
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>>152502812
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>>152502969
It'll cycle out in four months and it's not part of any Tier 1 decks. Yeah it's nice for C'Thun Warrior, but unless you're facing a mirror it's not necessary-- you can just swap in more aggressive legendary cards.
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>>152503186
Edwin is far more core to rogue than Xaril even if Xaril has a deathrattle
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what should i change?
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>>152502658
I wish I had a Huehueran.
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>>152503243
no because you don't have the normal version
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>>152502969
If you want to play control warrior or slow C'Thun warrior, sure.

Control priest also looks like an option, but the current trend looks like cutting Justicar and heal with fat priests while pulling out shit with bishops and Barnes.

Paladin doesn't really need it since you win against control warrior without it, and you typically lose to control priest even with it. It used to be pretty great with Quartermaster, but as long as there is no similar recruit buff card, I don't think it's worth it.

There is one expansion left before Justicar rotates out so there is some chance of her becoming relevant for other classes, but it's unlikely.
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>>152503335
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What kind of minion will Blizzard give Zoo to replace the Boss next year?
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>>152503004
it also #reks Yogg druid
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>>152501526
>>152502225
Anon you spurned on this sad response, are you happy? Apologize to this anon.

>>152502260
Nobody hates Kibler and if they do its because they hate themselves.
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>>152503335
would be perfect if the druid was holding FoN and SR
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>>152503203
Made something *kind of* similar.
Ended up crafting the Justicar. Who knows, she might just be enough of a cool and unique card that Blizzard keeps her in standard.
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>>152503243
>/hsthirdworldgeneral/ doesn't understand the meaning of the world and
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>>152503604
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>>152503203
literal shit

enjoy dying turn 5 because of 3 hueg legendaries in opening hand
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>>152503604
Probably some disgusting deathrattle thing.
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>playing Malygos Shaman against Handlock in Wild
>trading heropowers
>he darkbombs my healing totem, use Wow emote to express my amazement
>That's incredible!
>next turn he is so tilted by this masterpiece of a voice clip that he taps, overdraws his reno, and concedes
>mfw reno doesn't even matter against my combo
S T O R I E S
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>>152503458
Holy shit what happened to my reading comprehension.
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>>152503335
>competitive
can't stand this buzzword
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>Shaman spends whole game delaying, has deck full of spells, barnes pulled out Thaurissian and he played another one.
>Pretty sure whatever combo he does next will kill me
>lay down a yogg
>Buffs itself silly then gives itself charge

THE LIGHT SHALL BURN YOU
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>>152502969
how that much dust?
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>>152502974
but that's literally true, you're the shieldbearer
you "pretend" the discarded cards are from the bottom of your deck, there is no downside unless you hit fatigue
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>>152503737
As ridiculous of an ability as that is, zoo probably wouldn't run it.
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>>152503335
If MTG is so much better, why have Reynad and Kibler stopped playing it?
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>>152503449
this should make you the true cancer build.

-2 ancestral knowledge
-1 earth shock
-1 flame juggler
-2 lava shock

+1 doomhammer
+1 flametongue
+2 thing from below
+2 tuskar totemic
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>>152503604
The Implosion Guy
>whenever this minion attacks a minion with divine shield, summon 0 Imps
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>>152503935
not as much money in it
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wtf is knife juggler good again what did i miss
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>3 mana 4/2 legendary that whirlwinds at the end of the turn
>3 mana 3/3 common that battlecries whirlwind

this game design tho
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>>152503915
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>152503935
m8 there is a bit of a difference between those two

>Reynad
>made small inroads on the competitive scene before being banned for cheating (it absolutely was cheating, regardless of what he now says)

>Kibler
>literally one of the all-time magic greats who had a definitive impact on the game

Like, nothing Kibler could do in Magic now could equal his previous accomplishments. He only plays now out of love of the game, so it isn't critical to him especially because he earns more money streaming HS. And he doesn't really play HS competitively, he rarely plays tournaments.
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>>152503935
cucknard got banned
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>bringing hunter to tourney
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>>152503243
not him but I would say no. I'd dust a golden legendary if it were a bad one, or if I had the regular one and still needed more legendaries.
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>A normal and regular guy wins at HS

huh?
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>>152504140
and the ghoul is in a class that actually benefits from whirlwinds and doesn't just kill their own board
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What? Control Hunter is bad?

Who would have guessed?
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>>152504136
A brain
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>>152503737
I WANT IT
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>>152504140
It's balanced because hunter has a lot of 1/1's
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>>152503935

the online game sucks ass
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>>152503935
Noodledick got b& for cheating. Dunno bout kibbler
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>>152503737
I can't stop vomiting.
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>>152503737
>zoo
>turn 8
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>>152504214
Reynad definitely looks like the type who would cheat at a card game.
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>>152503681
has blizzard even mentioned any plans of adding cards to the classic set or otherwise augmenting rotations to keep certain cards around?
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>>152504214
for those unaware what reynad did in hs terms was sneaking in a dr. boom into his deck in an arena tournament
no chance in hell it was anything but cheating, especially considering it was the baby himself
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>>152501383
>mfw he dabs
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>>152503983
thanks
don't have a second doomhammer so for now i'll keep the second flame juggler so my 2 drops are a little better
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>tfw everyone so salty at how overpowered zoo is
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Is Frodan a semen slurper?
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>>152504842
also consider replacing one of the flame jugglers with a lightning storm if you're see alot of aggro
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>>152505009
Nah. He does look like one, but it's clear he's not.
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>>152505009
hes a renowned cock aficionado
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>>152505031
gotchu fampai
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HEY DON'T YOU GUYS WANT TO GO TO YOUR LOCAL FIRESIDE GATHERINGS?

THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, I BET YOU WANNA GO NOW I MEAN WHO WOULDN'T? :^)
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Bras7-1 vs burger

who win?
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>>152505235
>tfw no fireside gatherings in narnia for dat cardback
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>mfw my favorite playstyle is control
>control is total horseshit in the current meta

Is there anything similar to control that's actually not trash tier in the meta? Maybe mid-range I'm guessing?

Or are we just stuck with tempo shit and aggro cancer memes until the next expansion?
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>yfw lifecoach reached legend with this deck
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>>152505235
once I went to an event in Madrid of HS, I don't know what it really was, they gave us a pack for free and there were some local pros around

It wasn't too bad, there were some autists but it was pretty much some teenies fooling around plus 4 or 5 autist fat asses, I didn't see any dancing retards either
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>>152505520
you're probably just total horseshit desu
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>>152505520
play bogchamp shaman :^)
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>>152505710
I probably am, but that doesn't change the fact that control decks are fucking awful.
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>>152504982
>mfw zooshitters want to tell themselves their nigger retard deck is still good
>mfw next week Tempostorm™ will officially declare it tier 3
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>>152505520
>my favorite playstyle is control
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>>152505469

Why would you even want it when the Pirates cardback exists?
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>>152505520
>heh, greetings
>+20 armor
>12 to 18 hp taunts
>strongest late game in the meta
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>>152505935
started too late for it
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jesus christ
pascoa looks like a gay caveman what the fuck
eughhh
>the city of brazil
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>>152505829
That's right my fedora brother. Control is indeed the first choice of the wise patrician.

Unless you live in the current year.
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>brawl
>priest plays brewmaster on turn 2 empty board
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>>152505951
>strongest late game in the meta
That's still priest and always will be while entomb is in the game.
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>>152505520
Control warrior is still good, especially the C'Thun build.
Anyfin paladin is pretty good right now.
Control shaman is fine, Maelstorm Portal gives you more strong ways to fuck aggro outta the board.
Some kind of control priest might also arise with Onyx Bishops, funnel cake priests, and Barnes.
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>>152505829
let's give this man some upvotes
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>>152506136
brewmaster is pretty useless, you don't need it
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seriously how can anyone say frodan is gay when pascoa exists
look at his mannerism, he can't get his mind off of cock
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>>152506136
not nearly as bad as priest copying shaman hero power and then using justicar
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>>152506136
this is the easiest co op brawl by a mile and brewmasters are one of the least usefull combo pieces in it

the only important cards are double health and inner fire, it doesnt even matter what you play them on as long as you play them all on the same minion
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>>152505520
Just play zoo, it's the most competitive control deck around at the moment.

>>152505827
You misspelled tier 1, friend. I can see it now, something along the lines of "after seeing the results of the summer preliminaries, it's clear zoo is a dominant force in the meta. One of the key benefits is how even with multiple missplays, it is still very forgiving because of just how powerful the individual cards are combined with the warlock hero power. Now here we take a look at our shitty version of an otherwise meta-defining deck." Something along those lines. :^)
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>>152506136
So? Literally doesn't matter. The only important thing is that they don't waste their fucking buffs on anything but the Gargoyle or that Dragonstalker or whatever it's called.
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>>152505520
>Is there anything similar to control that's actually not trash tier in the meta?

Zoo.

It's control.
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>>152506169
c'thun warrior still wins on fatigue most of the time, plus it can put big pressure with the 4/2 divine shields and vek'lor
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>>152506324
Pascoa has really long luscious eyelashes.

It's kind of hot actually. No homo.
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>>152506384
>Ohboyherewego.jpg
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>>152506384
(You)
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>>152506373
>The only important thing is that they don't waste their fucking buffs on anything but the Gargoyle or that Dragonstalker or whatever it's called.
not true, as long as you are buffing something with 5+ life you can easily get to 70+ health and win with it
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Pascoa is cute as fuck, though.
I mean really, look at him. I'd buy a plushie of him if I could.
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>>152506384
>Nyuuh! I'll get right on it!
What did he mean by this
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>>152503758
While that's technically possible, the odds of having nothing to play by turn 3 when 19 cards cost 3 mana or less and I have nine chances to pull one if I hard mulligan a full legendary hand are... well, someone would have to do the math, but it's been low.
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>>152506518
>>152506459
>>152506324
you niggas need to calm down
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>>152506169
>don't play anything for priest to entomb
>win
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>>152506368
>>152506384
>Zoo is control
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Would it be possible to make a deck that is in any way competent with only 2-cost cards?
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>>152506673
Well, you do control the board pretty fucking well until turn 5 lethal.
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>>152506662
>late game
>don't play anything
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>>152506652
>you niggas need to calm down
>you niggas
>niggas
>as
>s
nice one m8
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>>152506687
no because you get blown out by a single AOE
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>>152506673
zoo is control you fucking idiot,

play small stuff, control the board. kill opponent.
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>>152506774
Look at me in the post number and tell me that he isn't an unnaturally attractive male.
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>>152506687
no because there are no good 2 drops on the game except class cards. you can make a paladin deck with an obscene amount of 1 drops and divine favor though
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>>152506802
>this is what shieldbearers actually believe
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>>152506652
Seriously, look at his eyelashes.

Gatdamn, I want to lick
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>>152506687
Maybe a weenie aggro deck with Paladin, but it would get blown out by even the slightest bit of control.
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>>152506687
If you could make a deck with only totem golems, lava shocks, and maelstorm portals, it might work.
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>>152506802
if it runs 14 one cost cards it's not control. if it can win by turn 5 it's not control.
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>fun and interactive
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post your cardbacks.

>season 1 cardback prestige boi
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>>152506802
>>152506931
I swear this is a meme.

Zoo is just aggro with less HP per minion but more card draw to make up for it. Calling it mid-range is already a stretch since it wants to win well before turn 8.
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>>152506905
>terrible jawline
>huge nose
>awful facial hair
>beady eyes
>super long face
i am telling you that is not an unnaturally attractive male
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Zoo is Zoo you faggots.

You can play it as midrange with Sea Giants. You can hoard POs + Soulfires and play it as a salt inducing combo deck with Leeroy. You can play it as hyper aggro/face with charge minions and divine shields. You can play it as a memedeck with discard bullshit. Etc.
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>>152506687

> Yogg Gang Ups himself

Stories!
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>>152506762
Correct
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>>152507075
>play newest zetalot meme deck
>barnes summons Y'Shaarj on turn 4
>Y'Shaarj pulls out Ysera
>"well thought, I concede"
are you implying I'm some sort of aggro shitter
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>Priest is "dead"
ayy lmao
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>>152506931
>>152507075
>>152507103

spotted the shieldbearer newfags
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>>152507175
i put sea giants and 2 PO+leeroy, i still consider it aggro and not midrange
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>>152506802
>>152506751
By this logic, tempo mage and miracle rogue are both control.

Literally everything in the game is control then you dumbass.
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>>152507175
>midrange
no it's aggro
>combo
no it's aggro
>face
no it's aggro

m8, zoo is the classic aggro deck that plays like an aggro deck
note it's not a face deck (unless you're a really bad player) which is why some retards think it's control
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>>152507390
Aggro shaman controls his mana crystals and your life total.
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It's control because you control your opponents health total :)
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>>152503681
Looks alright. I used to run 2x Fierce Monkey and 2x Bloodhoof Brave, but they never felt like they adequately stopped problems when I played on curve vs. aggro.

Bolster/King looks neat, though, might be cool with a Hogger if you want to meme extra hard.
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>>152507320
nice argument, nigger

>>152507280
there's a diference between getting lethal on turn 5 and your opponent conceding
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>>152507295
>winning a game in rank 14
wew lad, you sure convinced me with that high res screenshot
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>>152507295
>rank 14
go away
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(f)rosty
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>>152507647
why is that faggot with his hood up?
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>>152507097
rarest one i have tbqh
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Zoo is not a control deck you retards.

Let's talk about something else please. I'm already triggered from the bullshit I'm seeing in this tournament.
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>>152507525
about as valid as the bullshit you're spewing

I don't even play zoo, but it's not aggro, if you play it like aggro, you're a retard and probably lose with it a lot
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>>152507713
he is playing freeze mage he is cold
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>>152507103
It's a meme but zoo is still the most board control focused aggro deck. It can rarely afford to neglect board control and let opponent dictate trades unlike shaman or warrior who often race you and force to deal with their fat underpriced minions. Zoo is an example of how aggro decks should work, small weenies, lots of trades, board position, vulnerable to AoE. Only Councillor is bullshit fat minion here.
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>>152507781
Trump says it's aggro.

So, you're wrong. It's aggro.
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>>152507713
shitty haircut or>>152507870
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>>152507175
This guy knows

Zoo is a fast deck but you don't run everything into the enemies face like the old face hunter would
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>>152507781
>aggro
>short for aggresive
>deck that runs 14 one drops and a 5/7 charge/leeroy isn't aggressive
waiting for your argument now retard
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>>152507097
>i know 2 people irl who play this game edition cardback
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>>152504571
I agree, that's why I ended up adding 2x Doomsayer.
The Bolster/King combo is crazy if you can pull it off. The deck just needs better ways to stall.
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>>152507920
which is why it's not a face deck
it's still aggro by any sane definition
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>>152508007
google the definition of aggro, educate yourself and then come back, you drooling dickbrain
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>>152508146
oops, directed to >>152507494
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>>152507097
cardbacks should be craftable and disenchantable for 1000 dust

that way new players can stop bitching and old players can get a ton of dust from shitty backs
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>>152508309
>still no argument

Short for 'aggressive', aggro is used to define a deck or archetype which is highly dependent on creature combat and aggressive attacks (also 'beatdown'). The aim is to develop an advantage in the game before the opponent.
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>>152501526
gooby pls that fat blob's the rock bottom of humanity
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>>152507428
No, most Zoo builds these days are midrange decks with several win conditions and play accordingly in various matchups.

They only seem aggro to mentally constipated faggots who fail to get on board till turn 5.

Discard Zoo is the closest thing to aggro Zoo because divine shields with charge are somehow not popular nowadays and if Discolock traded as much as midrange Zoo (with Brann and Giants) they'd run out of resources in a blink.
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So which one of you faggots is this?
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>>152508365
this would kill the amount of packs people purchase since every player would be basically awarded a free legendary at the end of each season
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>>152502076
Why you lie on the internet.
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>>152508585
me
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>>152508585
me
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Wasn't Druid and auto win for Freeze Mage?

What the fuck is Rosty doing? That Fandral has been on the field for 5 turns.
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>>152508585
me tbqh
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>>152508774
superior brazilian mindgames
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>>152508565
it's aggro
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i'm starting to sweat for pascoa
freeze mage is the ultimate cancer this game has ever seen
say what you will about patron or zoo or whatever, but it's freeze mage
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>>152508565
>midrange decks
do you even know what that means?
midrange decks try to play one minion on curve every turn and slowly beating down the opponent
mdirange decks typically don't run much burn and not too much card draw either
pre-standard midrange paladin and midrange hunter and even secret paladin are the archtypical midrange decks

aggro decks vomit their hand early and either run a lot of card draw or are face decks and typically run a lot of burn
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How was the amazon promo exploitable ?
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>>152508959
Hear hear
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>>152508309
I googled aggro deck and it showed me a Zoo deck.

Status of your argument:

[ ] Logical
[ ] Illogical
[ ] Blown The Fuck Out
[x] Where No Shitpost Has Gone Before
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>>152508774
winning
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>>152508774
why would he care? he has all the freezing cards in his hand
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>>152508774
he played this very well
he had no way to not be popped once the minions were free to attack so all he could do as stall with freezes and ice block for as long as possible so he could draw his burn
fandral was irrelevant
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Post cards that trigger Shamans
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How the fuck do I take smaller screenshots so I don't have to edit them before posting them here?
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>>152508774
He should have yogg'd
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>>152509079
google results are tailored towards whoever uses the machine based on the websites they browse.

Kill yourself.
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>>152509246
My giantfu
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>>152509264
snipping tool if you're on windows
also you can not be a faggot and just post the screen
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>>152509264
get puu.sh
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>beast druid
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>>152502974
you're the shielbearer here senpai
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why does he wear the hood?
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>>152509297
You asked him to do that in the first place and now get pissy, retard
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>>152509398
what are you talking about, screenshots are too big sized to be posted here and I cba to edit every single fucking one of them
>>152509412
>can't be found
huh?
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>>152509246
devastating against shamans and zoolocks
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Zoo is basically mtg aggro.
You flood the board with never ending small minions and buff them to deal with trades against slower, bigger creatures, aggressively winning by overwhelming numbers.
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>>152509583
google it you fucking mongoloid
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>>152509748
spoonfeed me
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>>152509481
he has no hair from all those cancer deck
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>>152509654
hearthbabs think aggro means "hitting face always"
it's not the first term they've butchered
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>>152509583
stop being a fatcat with a 4k screen
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>Playing Beast Druid BEFORE Menagerie Warden is out

This guy does not want to win or something?
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>>152509014
Zoo has natural card draw thanks to the Warlock HP. Zoo wins by curving out, controlling the board till midgame and finishing you off with high value midrange minions and spells. Zoo steals your tempo constantly too. Some variations of Zoo run Leeroy for additional burst damage. But it's not the deck's only win condition you fucking dumbfuck.

It's not aggro by any means. The closest description right now is midrange.
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>>152509835
Madagascan mindgames, shieldbearer.
You wouldn't understand.
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>>152509246
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Zoo is a control deck. Hearthstone players, however, having never been exposed to another card game, see control as a deck that has to sit around and do nothing but remove for fifteen turns and don't understand this.
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>>152509847
>The closest description right now is midrange.
no midrange is the least fitting description of all of the following: aggro, midrange, control, combo, tempo
zoo has way too much card draw, way too small minions, way too many chargers, and way too much board flooding to be midrange, all of these are highly typical of aggro decks though
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>>152508023
wait, so you can just make 2 new accounts and get the card back?
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anyone keep track of all the play a friend quests they have completed since the quest was introduced?

i've completed the quest at least 47 times
>tfw blizzard gave me 4000 gold
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>>152509801
>there are people in this thread right now who think Tempo Warrior is actually a tempo deck
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>>152510049
you're opinion is shit
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>>152510190
t.Bestmageu
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>>152510049
>i have played magic and watch reynad's stream so my nonsense is fact

>>152510150
if you have 3 computers in your house sure
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>>152509801
Well, only zoo plays like aggro in Hearthstone.
Midrange is fucked up too.
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>caring about minions as freeze mage with all your freeze cards in hand

hello shielbearer
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>>152509775
I AM
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>>152509847
on the left, typical midrange hunter. on the right typical zoo
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>>152510302
>if you have 3 computers in your house sure

you mean computer + tablet + phone
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>>152510497
Don't ever get a baby
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>>152510525
>>152510302
you just need computer + something else

just use a phone emulator on pc
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>>152510521
>barnes
>typical
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>>152510195
>there are people in this thread right now who think "miracle" means drawing a bunch of cards with gadgetzan auctioneer
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>>152510521
even that hunter list is more aggro leaning with argent horseriders and no 5 drops which most decks run
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>opponent goes first
Haha looks like I lost well played :)))))
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>praying
you deserve to get punished
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>Get god tier hand
>Still have a "I just want to kill myself" face

What the fuck is wrong with Rosty? He wasn't breastfeed as baby or something? Did he sacrified his humanity to play HS?
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>>152510813
>there are retards in this thread right now who think "miracle" doesn't mean drawing a bunch of cards with gadgetzan auctioneer in hearthstone because the name originally comes form the magic equivalent of questing adventurer which barely any hs miracle deck still runs
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>>152510897
American lethargy.
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>>152510897
let me guess.
you have broken something because you were mad over videogames
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>>152511001
>there are people in this thread who think miracle means what it means and not the definition hearthbabbies invented due to not knowing what it means
this is what you just said
>>
PASCOA BM
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>>152510897
His feet hurt.
The room is cold.
He's hungry.
He wants to go home.
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I've never seen two people so unhappy to be playing a video game
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>>152511212
in hearthstone a miracle deck is any deck that relies on gadgetzan to draw a shit ton of cards for combo shenanigans even without edwin or questing
hearthstone isn't magic m8
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>>152510129
>way too many chargers
One or two is way too many?

You're retarded my man.

And how is card draw typical of aggro decks, come again? Card draw is control's schtick.

Most Zoo minions may be small, but their most important attribute is stickiness (to control THE BOARD), not the immediate damage output.

Zoo is midrange because it's not fast enough to aggro you to death on turn 4 unless you're a retard playing some memedeck, and Zoo typically controls the board till midgame, then pushes for lethal with midrange threats more oftne than not. Trying to use 1584158327 criteria that do not fit at all to put an aggro label on it is fucking stupid.
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>>152511427
flow chart syndrome
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>>152511438
yes i'm well aware hearthbabbies butchered the word
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>>152506762
you can play le 30 damage worgen or le concealed gadgetman
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>>152511575
kill (You)rself
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>have a knife juggler, imp gang boss and doomguard on the field
>reach turn 7
>the mage predictably casts flamestrike, killing everything but the doomguard
>in its death the Imp Gang spawns an imp
>the knife juggler, which is at -2 health and 'dead', hits her face
>zero cards in hand
>top deck the other doomguard
>get exactly enough for lethal
>"My magic will tear you apart!"
I feel kind of shitty after that one, I don't think that juggler logically should've triggered.
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>>152511427
>mfw I have a 5 win quest and have won 0(zero) after an hour of playing
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>>152511734
gro up kid
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If I'm playing priest going 2nd and opposing warlock plays turn 1 flaming imp is it bad to use shadow word pain on it?
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>>152510129
>way too many chargers
Dragon Warrior has 4 chargers. It's not a midrange deck according to you?
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>>152510564
>Put food in baby's mouth
>He spits it out

not much more I can do
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>>152511438
in magic there was a card that is literally violet teacher and questing adventurer

this deck-archetype was named, Miracle (currently UW miracles)

people constructed decks containing this card, and a deck full of cantrips

hearthstone is released

original miracle rogue won via questing adventurer and violet teacher

over the time, miracle rogue evolved and eventually ditched these cards but kept the name
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>>152501526
I never understand when people do stuff like this like "this person is successful what are YOU doing with your life??" like you're in the same fucking boat as the rest of us, why act so smug
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>>152511476
>And how is card draw typical of aggro decks, come again?
>zoolock
>(old school) aggro mage
>aggro paladin
>aggro shaman
the most typical non-face aggro decks and all run a lot of card draw
other aggro decks like face hunter, face shaman and pirate warrior are all face decks and do'nt run burn

>One or two is way too many?
when they're as big as in zoo and primarily intended as """"late game"""" finishers yes

>Most Zoo minions may be small, but their most important attribute is stickiness
face hunter ran haunted creeper and argent squires because sticky minions are the most aggressive minions there are m8

>it's not fast enough to aggro you to death on turn 4
hardly any deck is but a turn 6-8 lethal is not atypical of zoo and that's similar to face hunter and shaman

>Zoo is midrange
no it's not, if you actually think so you simply have no idea what you're talking about, it's literally the opposite of midrange
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>>152511141
Not him but I once broke a controller and a window after my little brother overwrote my save file on Valkyrie Profile.
>>
Piece of. Shit Brazilian I swear I will fucking end him
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>>152510897
>mfw playing in this meta
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>>152511476
>not the immediate damage output
abusive sergeant, PO, soulfire, leeroy, knife juggler and doomguard are all ways zoo can do huge amounts of damage to the face from hand

zoo has two game plans: aggro and control

againt slow decks, it plays the aggressor and uses its sticky minions to counter the enemy's removal. trading happens only when not doing so risks the opponent swinging the board around.

against other fast decks, it plays control and uses its sticky minions plus buffs to bully the other aggressive deck off of the board. it either uses the board lead to win the game or its hero power to out-grind the other aggro deck. This does not suddenly make it a control deck in any other context
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>>152511792
Not as hilarious as peddling a boar and PO'ing it twice for exact lethal of 9dmg to the face.

They never see it coming.
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>>152511915
5 chargers + weapons + blackwing corruptors which are pretty much chargers
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>>152511915
those chargers are midrange threats and not late game finishers
dragon warrior is a pretty typical midrange deck only with overpowered 2-drops
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>>152512251
come on rosty don't be like that
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>>152512251
You been drinkin, Jim?
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>>152512159
You motherfuckers need to define what you understand as midrange
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Pascoa
>Smiles
>Shows emotion
>A NATURAL MISTAKE
>MY THANKS TO YOU
>HM WELL PLAYED
>Goes for the full BM and wins

Meanwhile Rosty...
>No emotions
>Lools super emo all the time
>Loses

Props to Pascoa for playing the like it is intended and win.

FUCK all the thin skin faggots that can't stand emotes.
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Bravo to Blizz for printing this healthy and fair card
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>>152510897
because he's a grown adult playing a children's card game UNIRONICALLY HAVING GROWN UP PEOPLE WATCHING HIM PLAYING A CHILDREN'S CARD GAME
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>>152512353
Turn 2-4 is not midgame. How is 2 mana 3/3 charger a midrange threat?
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OBRIGADO TEMER POR MELHORAR O BRASIL
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>>152512418
already did >>152509014
>>
So

>Moroes was trash, as predicted

>Barnes was surprisingly really fucking good

Predictions for the rest of the legendaries?
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>entomb Tirion
>have Y'Shaarj pull it out a turn later
I still hate nigger priest, but fuck me if this deck isn't the most fun one that have come out from Karazhan so far.
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>>152512454
there is no room for emotion in esports

i hope this Brazilian fag dies in an apartment fire
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>>152512501
early-mid game board control threats*
happy?
still far different from doomguard and leeroy, one of which is almost exclusively a finisher and the other primarily a finisher
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>>152512353
>2 mana wolfrider into power word:shield
>kor'kron elite
>6 drop that is shit unless you did enough damage to their face
>b-b-but we run (1 mana, powerful enough to be core in literally every warrior deck to ever see ladder play) removal!!! we aren't like those smelly aggro decks!!!

"""midrange""" everybody
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>europe has so much (((diversity)))
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how often can you get total dominance? once every five days?

i feel like I got it twice this week
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>>152512667
>surprisingly good
Barnes being good was not a surprise, anyone with a brain knew you could build a deck around the lad to get ridiculous swings with him.
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is Brazil white?
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I didn't know Angry Joe was a HS player.
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>Brazil wins
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>>152512891
I would fuck Gaby so hard.
She is deliciously thick.
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>>152512790
it fills out the curve from 1-8 with powerful minions which is what defines a midrange deck
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>>152512891
southern brazil is white
southern brazil needs to split off from northern brazil, maybe join up with argentina maybe not, and become the shining aryan star of the south (rip rhodesia).
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>>152512487

>Childrens card game

>Playerbase exists entirely of players, spectators and pros that are adults all playing/watching/competing in a childrens card game

Did you ever consider that maybe there is no such thing as a childrens card game? Kids dont care about card games anymore.
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>>152512891
>everyone south of the boarder must be golden brown
americans, everybody
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>even the br player says the NA meta is cancer
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>>152510049
Nigga, I play blue/white and blue/black control decks in M:tG, and I've played them since Urza back in the motherfucking day.

Control decks are about removal, staying alive by stabilizing each turn, and countering everything your opponent does until you reach the late game where you have enough mana to play your game winning ultra value cards uncontested.

It's like the exact opposite of aggro decks, which run cheap, mana efficient low cost creatures and spells that do as much damage as possible as fast as possible, but have absolutely zero late game and zero removal or stablizers.

TL;DR, aggro decks do a lot of damage really fast and lose steam. Control decks do almost no damage until the late game where they win all at once.

This is the exact same concept in Hearthstone. Nothing has changed about it, except a bunch of fucking retards think that if you play Zoo like a mid-range deck that doesn't totally run out of steam, somehow that means it's a control deck, even though it wasn't literally fucking designed to do fuck all until the late game, which is the core definition of a control deck.
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>>152513000
>>
>play yogg
>it draws 15 cards until I'm fatigued, then astral communions
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>>152512883

At its worst, its a yeti

Any sort of effect from the card it summons, and it ranges from a better yeti to a game breaking yeti
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>>152512775
>board control threats
This even sounds stupid. Can you just admit dragon warrior uses aggressive chargers to push for face damage and protects them with weapons? It makes dragon warrior more aggro than zoo that runs more expensive chargers as finishers or antiaggro answer (doomguard).
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>This is the face of professional Hearthstone

Uh, /hsg/ays?
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>>152513231
it's an aggressive midrange deck I didn't mean to deny it but it's still a midrange deck in its core unlike zoo which is aggro to the core
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>>152502974
This is correct though. Very rarely will games go to fatigue so there is no distinction between cards not drawn and cards discarded.

The way hearthstone handles discards is really poor though. Lack of a discard pile really limits design space.

In other games discarding your cards can actually be an advantage since you can almost always tutor something a lot easier from your discard pile than from your deck.

For example in Android: Netrunner, a physical card game I play, there is an identity which if translated into hearthstone would say "at the beginning of your turn draw an extra card, then discard top two cards of your deck". In HS this would be unthinkable, you'd fatigue yourself before you could do anything meaningful but in card games with actual depth this can be a big advantage.
>>
I'm new to hearthstone and all my friends say priest is garbage. Why is it so bad?
>>
In before dude is getting Yogg'd again.
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>>152513163
>I play mtg
no wonder you're retarded and don't know shit about hearthstone

fuck off moron
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>>152513163
>Control decks are about removal, staying alive by stabilizing each turn, and countering everything your opponent does until you reach the late game where you have enough mana to play your game winning ultra value cards uncontested.

Hold up. I think Zoo does all that.

>removal
With minions and tokens.

>staying alive by stabilizing each turn
Through removal of enemy threats on board. Whatever is leftover, goes face.

>countering everything your opponent does
In a game where minion trading is everything,, they do it through value trades

>until you reach the late game where you have enough mana to play your game winning ultra value cards uncontested.
WHO DARES SUMMON ME
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>>152513368
because its a reactive class and there are no instants in hearthstone, so you just watch yourself get killed before your turn and you can react to it
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>name is muzzy
>is a muzzy
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>>152513014
powerful minions all designed to go face as efficiently as possible

it's a sad mockery of midrange
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Barnes would be (relatively more) balanced if it summoned the actual card out of your deck and turned it into a 1/1, instead of just copying it so you still have the second Tirion waiting to come out on turn 8.
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>>152513368
situational and overcosted cards with extremely limited early game and not too many "broken" cards to make up for it
most priest decks are just a worse version of a similar warrior/paladin deck depending on the priest flavor
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>>152512132
uw miracles has nothing to do with the original miracle deck
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>>152513535
Then people would whine that it's Mad Scientist 2.0 because it thins your deck.
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>>152513356
Yeah, okay
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>>152513432
would you say tempo mage is a control deck?
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>>152513432
You're ignoring what I said.

The core of a control deck is sacrificing the early and mid game in order to win in the late game. It's -designed- to do that. Zoo is not designed to do that. It's designed to win as early as it fucking can.

Just because it's so stupidly OP and Hearthstone is so shallow that you can have one deck theme that is a jack-of-all-trades doesn't make it a control deck. It CAN control, but the difference is that a control deck cannot aggro, or mid-range, or tempo, etc. Zoo can.

>>152513424
Quite the opposite, it's why I know more about it than you.

Fuck off moron.
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>>152513651
Who the hell complained about Mad Scientist becaused it THINNED your deck? Everyone complained about it because it let you play secrets for free and Barnes does the same thing except you still have the actual card as backup.
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>>152513651
I don't think removing your best cards from your deck counts as thinning your deck
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>>152513368
Because it shines in the late game, but getting to the late game is tough when your early game is lacking and the meta is filled with hyper aggressive decks.

With the addition of Onyx Bishop and Priest of the Feast, it's not nearly as desperate as it used to be since you can actually force people to trade and hold the board midgame instead of cowering before 4-attack minions.
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>>152513651
difference is though you don't want to draw secrets, you want to cheat them out
you want to draw your ragnaros/tirion on the other hand
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>>152512159
>hardly any deck is
Shaman and Face Hunter are both built to rape you by turn 5. Zoo with Brann trades up till turn 6 at least and then pushes for lethal. It's more similar to midrange hunter than anything, with its Dr. 6 and Call of the Skill. Except Zoo has Sea Giants, Brann+Gormok, Doomguards, baffed Leeroy to close off games.

Zoo's natural draw engine only serves to make its late game stronger. With so many threes, tentacles and argus you hardly manage to dump your entire fucking hand until late game. It's the best midrange deck there is, because it has reliable and cheap card draw to back up its explosive early and mid game, if those fail to bring you the win.
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Why the fuck are you guys arguing semantics

Who the fuck cares
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>>152513862
>it's so stupidly OP
t. rank 19 yuroshit
Why are all Magic players so fucking retarded?
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>>152513651
thinning your deck at the cost of removing something like tirion or malygos from your actual deck is a huge downside

it would still be good in something like midrange hunter that doesn't care about getting full value out of its deck, but anything grindy or combo based would be devastated

I think it would be a really good change to barnes because it means you actually consider whether or not to put it in your deck
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>muzzy
>the muslim

Is this a joke? This is a joke, right?

I mean when are we gonna see niqqa the black guy?
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>>152514069
>Zoo isn't and hasn't been OP forever.

Are you actually retarded?

I'm asking you this seriously.
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>>152513163
Nigga, I play Zoo, I control your health.
It's a control deck.
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>>152513991
>Shaman and Face Hunter are both built to rape you by turn 5.
that's nonsense
both decks rarely get lethal before t6 and t8 lethal is far from atypical, definitely more common than t5

and I'm not denying zoo lasts longer than face hunter but that doesn't make it a control or midrange deck
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>>152514192
t. rank 19 yuroshit
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>>152514009
no theyre not. do you even know what semantics are?
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>>152513885
>>152513975
>>152513894
>>152513975
Situationally cheating out the big baddies of the deck is good too if their effect makes enough of a swing.

Oh shit a 7/7, good thing I RNG'd into Ragnaros.

Oh shit I pulled a Cairne and guaranteed a 4/5 next turn.

Oh shit, maybe I don't have a huge Tirion, but I get Ashbringer on turn 5.

The trade-off is some stats for -1 card in the deck and faster effect. And yes, sometimes you would get low drops, but at least you don't draw them later.
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>>152513169
Mutton dressed as lamb dumpster bitch
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>>152513885
How about everyone with a brain?
It played secrets for free, that was a huge plus, but it also thinned your deck - this mean you had way less dead draws. If mad scientist pulled a secret from your deck, it means your next turn you are guaranteed to draw something good, like a minion or removal for example, and not topdeck a secret which no one ever wants in a tempo/aggro deck. It's a hugely underrated effect, makes decks more consistent.

Barnes is different, but I'm not the guy you responded to.
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>>152514280
I'll take that as a yes then.
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>>152514280
but zoo is the best deck to hit legend with (not that you should autistically play one deck regardless of rank and micro-meta) and has been every single season since beta
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>>152514339
Why the fuck are you arguing semantics

Who the fuck cares
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>>152514376
yes but this wouldn't make the card stronger unlike mad scientist which was far stronger playing the actual secret rather than a copy
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>>152514192
It's not OP right now, it wasn't OP between GvG and BRM without Imp Gang Boss, it wasn't OP when patron combo was in full swing.
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>>152514280
Zoo is literally the easiest, fastest and cheapest deck to reach legend with you mong.
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>>152514534
see>>152514448

Another anon already beat me to it.
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>>152514448
>>152514426

Ignore special snowflake shitters, they'll always irrationally hate on the tier 1 decks because of muh honor. Don't waste your time, bros.
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>>152514579
This is not dragon warrior, shaman or midrange hunter.
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>>152514448
It's always been a solid tier 2 deck. I don't remember the last time it was considered the "best" deck.
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>>152514704
no you're damn right it isn't
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>>152514448
>>152514629
You are both blatantly wrong, zoo saw many tier 2 periods
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has anyone tried some meme shit with barnes, brann, shadowstep and malygos?
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>>152514505
If you go to 5 cards - fatigue region, yeah, it wouldn't.

But nigga if you're getting Ashbringer/Minion steal/Cairne/Ragnaros hit on turn 5 and don't snowball it into a win, what the fuck are you doing with the game?

And on the other hand, when you pull your Argent Squire/whatever else aggro runs nowadays - you're one card closer to topdecking Tirion or Divine Favor or whatnot.

CopyMinionBarnes and PullMinionBarnes work for different purposes and gameplans.
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>>152514579
>it's OP because it's cheap
oh right you're a yuropoor I almost forgot
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>>152514751
it and combo druid were the strongest deck before standard
and it's been a tier 1 deck for all of wog
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>>152514881
Not for grinding legendary it didn't.
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>>152514764
Thanks for agreeing with me that zoo isn't as fast and easy ticket to legend as these 3 better decks
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>>152514448
It really isn't the best. It gets hard countered by warrior who currently makes up 1/3rd of the ladder.

Dragon warrior, aggro and "midrange" shaman and totally not aggro because I run 2 8 mana skill card Hunter are the best to ladder.

It's popular for laddering because it's extremely cheap and because games are fast so you don't waste any time playing games. You finish 5 games by the time you finish 2 games as a priest for example. Even if the priest has a 100% win rate, he will be slower than you.
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>>152514704
>Dragon Warrior
>Mid Hunter
>Face Shaman
>epics and legs
>still lose to Zoo stuffed full of commons and rares
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>>152514751
it's not about tier or winrate, it's net wins over losses per hour, which it does better than other decks

aggro shaman and face hunter both intermittently passed its crown as "most played deck" back and forth between it and themselves in their heydays, but since they are countered by zoo then zoo was what you wanted to play to legend
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>>152515019
what is secret paladin
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bets
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>>152515264
BOW DOWN BEFORE THE GOD OF DEATH
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>>152515167
Dragon Warrior beats zoo. It pushed zoo in tier 2.
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Holy shit this general right now, I can't even.

Who do I believe? Who can I trust?

Is Zoo actually a control deck?

I'm so confused senpai.
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>>152515363
face hunter is control
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>>152515239
a really strong deck that was outperformed by druid and zoo in the late LoE era
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is nzoth paladin good? it looks like a lot of fun and seems to have some decent survivability with chess knight and forbidden healing, plus with equality consecrate/pyro and humility/peacekeeper kodo it looks like it has some dank removal too.
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>>152515363
no it's not control, just look up the definition of aggro and you'll see zoo fits the description
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How is Dog rank 10 with astral druid I thought it was a meme deck but he always does consistently good with it and does well in tournaments
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>>152515431
stop
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>>152515537
>How is Dog rank 10 with astral druid I
his deck list is on the left side of the screen
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>Pre-kara invested all my dust into midrange/tempo warrior and have all the standard legal warrior legos

>Mfw seeing how much fun Dog's Druid legendary asspull deck is

I fucked up
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>>152515363
there are no aggro decks friend
zoo, tempo mage, dragon warrior, face hunter, aggro shaman and aggro paladin are all control
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>>152515350
Love this meme.

>no axe turn 2
>no ghouls
>don't run brawl

Gg.

Currently only Worgen War truly beats Zoo.
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>>152515264
DO HIS WILL

ALL WILL BURN

WHAT HE SAID
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How did fibonacci's maly yogg druid work out? its pretty fun
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>>152515350
not that guy but please stop pushing this meme. zoo has always been good against decks that try to curve out with one card per turn, and ghouls are only 2/30 cards in your deck and aren't even necessarily guaranteed to board wipe most of the time if the zoo player isn't retarded and plays around it.

the best argument you could have is that most zoo players are bad, which is debatable, but ideally it's a 50/50 matchup at best. too often have I seen dragon warrior get fucked by drawing bad early on or missing an important part of their curve, and even with the best of draws vs. mediocre zoo draws it's usually close because zoo is the most consistent early game deck in the entire fucking game atm.
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>>152515363
It's aggro, but not quite like other aggro. It's a bit slower than your regular aggro, but has excellent card draw, because of that it plays a bit slower but with more sticky minions.
In case you face a slow deck, you play as aggro, in case you face another aggro, you play more control-ish because of your most sticky minions and infinite card draw compared to them.

Basically if you're facing control, you will go full aggro mode because you can't outcontrol the real deal. But because of your hero power you can easily bully every other aggro into submission by trading until they are out of steam and you just keep tapping.

Aggro with some tiny control elements because of how hearthstone works and hero power.
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>>152515537

Its not astral druid.
He just got astral from turn 1 innervate innervate coin raven idol
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>>152515363
Control your mind, and you will control the board.
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>>152515679
>>152515915
>>152516016
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>>152515363

Essentially it's control because it does the same thing control does, except with minions instead of spells. It doesn't ignore the board and go face, it makes sure it has board control in most cases and only then does it start picking away at the opponent's health total.

Argent Squire + Abusive Sergeant is basically dark bomb except with a 1/1 and 2/1 attached and requires 2 separate cards.
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>>152516016
Bullshit.
Just control the enemy health. That's all you need.
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>>152516248
>Argent Squire + Abusive Sergeant is basically dark bomb
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/hsg/, give me a balanced
1-mana 10/10, and a 10-mana 1/1.
Pic unrelated.
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>>152516248
>Essentially it's control because it does the same thing control does
>Argent Squire + Abusive Sergeant is basically dark bomb
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>>152513362
Is that because the deck sizes in other games are bigger?
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>Based on previous plays, make sure you play the Sea Giant first

Dude, brutal.
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>>152515363
zoo is control, only shieldbearers will not agree
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>>152516458
>>152516638
You're right, it's actually better
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>Hearthstone will never have arena-only cards that do wacky things like make the next pick all Angry Chickens
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>>152516749
>He only has 4800 ranked wins
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>>152516635
you're in a hearthstone general, post the part that's about hearthstone not some other garbage

or just fuck off with your dead game for autistic fat fucks, autistic fat fuck
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>>152515363
>Is Zoo actually a control deck?

From Patrick Chapin book, Next Level Magic (PIC RELATED), we can see the actual definitions and choose the one that fits Zoo better:

Control/Permission
>Control strategies generally seek to survive Stage 1, begin building advantages in Stage 2, and eventually reach a Stage 3 end game that will win the game for them. While these strategies tend to be somewhat reactive and tend to employ more powerful cards than many other strategies, they can typically be divided into “those with permission” and “those without permission.”
>In general, most Permission-based Control decks rely on a good deal of card drawing to compliment either a boatload of Counterspells, or a token amount of permission and a nice selection of defensive control cards appropriate to a given format.

Burn
>Burn decks can mean a variety of things, though most commonly there are four major archetypes that people sometimes give this label to.
>The first is the Lava Spike Deck. Where the idea is to have every card in your deck function like a Lightning Bolt, and quickly kill your opponent with direct damage, ignoring anything he does.
>This strategy is particularly appealing to amateur players, as it is not only incredibly easy to play, but incredibly consistent as well as consistently decent. This strategy is not as common among top players.
>The next type of burn deck that we will talk about is that of Red Deck Wins.
>decks are based on hyperaggressive low mana curves that typically select the most aggressive creatures in the format. These creatures are used to put early pressure on an opponent, while any creatures that might block are burnt out of the way. Once the opponent's life total is low enough, all of this direct damage provides the deck with some reach, giving them a plan to finish off an opponent who has set up their defenses.

You all are just ignorant, should I post all the other definitions?
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>zoo is bad don't play it
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>>152516868
That's okay because they have Tavern Brawl-only cards that also do wacky things.
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>>152516635
>>decks are based on hyperaggressive low mana curves that typically select the most aggressive creatures in the format. These creatures are used to put early pressure on an opponent, while any creatures that might block are burnt out of the way. Once the opponent's life total is low enough, all of this direct damage provides the deck with some reach, giving them a plan to finish off an opponent who has set up their defenses.

Sounds exactly like Zoo, like, literally that is EXACTLY what Zoo is.
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>>152516749
In terms of Hearthstone archetypes

Aggro = Burn
Midrange = Aggro
Midrange = Control
Combo = Combo

There is no such thing as true control because there is no denial, disruption, or draw-go mechanics.
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>>152513163
>zoo
>running out of steam
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>>152516909
Oh lawdy, is it aussie time already? Good night guys, have fun with this.
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>>152516968
>decks are based on hyperaggressive low mana curve
>describing burn and not linear aggro
i shiggy diggy
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>>152516638
>>152516458
>specifically leave out the "except with a 1/1 and 2/1 attached and requires 2 separate cards." ending, taking the quote out of context and acting smug about their victory over a strawman

Spotted the hillary voters
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>>152516968
>Aggro Control

That's the Zoo desu.
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Renolock hype bois
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>>152517030
freeze mage is close to true control
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>>152515526
take a moment to stop shitting your pants about control = zoo and please answer this thanks
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>>152517212
zoo doesn't have removal
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>>152517029
yeah zoo sure ignores minions it can ignore and runs all that direct damage like... uhh nothing lmao?

fucking yuro moron end urself
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>>152517278
the creatures are removal m8

thats why mtg - hearthstone comparisons are so retarded, the lack of instants and how combat operates means that deck archetypes are inherently different
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>>152516248
It would more likely be labeled a tempo deck.
Cheap stuff to make favourable trades (like the aforementioned Abusive) and playing a small threat each turn to keep the pressure in line with the mana ramping.

Zoo doesn't put minions in the deck that can make value trades, nor does it load the early game with removal to it can hit lategame when those minions can be played. The synergy between minions (and spells) help them gain value in trading up, so they can use the remaining mana to play additional threats. Much like Tempo Mage does with Flamewanker and Mana Wyrm.
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>>152517278
Zoo removal is buffed 1/1 tokens
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>>152517278
It uses its minions as removal.
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>>152517201
figures you'd be an american with this kind of retardation

>>152517212
tempo mage is a really typical aggro control deck
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>>152516868
>Magic

This isn't even banned in tournaments.
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>>152517246
yes
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>>152515867
You know fiery win axe is only 2/30 cards in warrior deck but every single faggot has it by turn 2.
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>>152515526
It's alright. But there's no point playing control on ladder.
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>>152516968
Zoo can do very little against an opponent who has "set up his defences"
Zoo has literally little or no burn and basically never runs more than two charges

Board control makes or breaks zoo and if your charge is doom guard it will be used to maintain board control more so than push for lethal
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>>152516868
I never played magic. So would it be like if I chose a card and then my next three picks were all just random? Seems kinda cool
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>>152511876
you use it then or you wait for aoe and save sw:p for councilman
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>>152517278
Only because Ben fucked over the class with meme spells.

If Zoo had good removal that didn't destroy their own fucking board it'd most likely turn into some kind of tempo mumbo jumbo deck. As it is now, it uses its minions and spells that need a minion to control the board and out-tempo the opponent.
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>>152517435
I need to go find that good ol' platinum angel copy pasta.
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>sen'jin shieldmasta
what the fuck is this tournament
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>>152517497
>Board control makes or breaks zoo
that's true of zoo, all aggro decks and no control deck
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>>152517293
Lol what?

>>>decks are based on hyperaggressive low mana curves that typically select the most aggressive creatures in the format. These creatures are used to put early pressure on an opponent, while any creatures that might block are burnt out of the way. Once the opponent's life total is low enough, all of this direct damage provides the deck with some reach, giving them a plan to finish off an opponent who has set up their defenses.

Copy paste the part of that where it says

>ignores minions

My reading comprehension is really poor because I'm a dumbass American, so I might've missed it.
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Why does it sound like half of the people here think zoo is face hunter?
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It would be more accurate to describe decks as being fast/slow rather than aggro/midrange/control at this point
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>>152517705
But Control relies on controlling the board. That's why it's called Control.
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>>152515348
>>152515787
aww yeaaaaaah
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>>152517781
it doesn't
just half the retards think all aggro decks are face hunter reskinned and don't understand that zoo can be aggro and still not a face deck
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>>152517690
>wow look at these shitters using cards that aren't in the most recent netdecks
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>>152517781
Because the term "Face" doesn't exist in mtg as a deck archetype so people are conveniently ignoring it when in reality, Burn is its equivalent.

MTG Burn = Hearthstone Face/"Aggro"
MTG Aggro = Hearthstone Midrange
MTG Midrange = Hearthstone Control
MTG Control = Doesn't exist. Closest thing is Freeze Mage since secrets kind of support pass play.
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>>152516968
>>152517029
>>152517193
>>152517212
>>152517497
Linear Aggro
>These days, the most common aggro decks outside of tokens and Red Deck Wins seem to be Linear Aggro decks based on some inherent internal synergy among the cards chosen. The idea is that you are playing a bunch of quick aggressive cards that get better and better the more you have, each helping all of the rest.
>Perhaps a better way to think of Linear Aggro is that it is a subcategory that can further define a deck. Generally, there are two types of Linear Aggro decks: there are those driven by creature type and those driven by a mechanic. These decks are often very easy to make very powerful—but they do have a tendency to be exploitable, as players can choose hate cards that beat the entire linear mechanic that the deck is built on.

Aggro Control
>An Aggro Control deck is one that seeks to deploy quick threats early and support them with a variety of control cards like permission, removal, and bounce. Against a Control deck, these support cards are used to protect the threats that the Aggro Control player plays. >Against a Combo deck, the control cards are used to keep the Combo player out of Stage 3 long enough for the threats to defeat them. Against a beatdown player, the control cards are used to help create a position where the Aggro Control player has a reasonable control of the board and can win with a superior board position. As you can see, Aggro Control decks attempt to do a better job of what it is that midrange decks strive to be—namely, beatdown against control and control against beatdown.
>Tempo is often more important in these sorts of decks than in most others.
>Defeating Aggro Control is often just a matter of being much faster than them, or just a little bigger
>Remember, in general, a much faster deck wins, but a slightly bigger deck wins, even if it is a little slower. This is a good rule to remember in general.
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>>152517979
this is accurate
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>>152517935
No, control relies on controlling your opponent, which isn't limited to the board.

Forcing your opponent to discard is classic control, dealing with threats before they even get a chance to manifest. That's only indirect board control, but not direct board control, because nothing even touches the "board" at all.
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>>152517935
control decks let their opponent take the board early and then they grab it back through aoes and start playing larger more efficient minions
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>>152517795

Except it's not because against zoolock if you removed their board and have at least 1 taunt up of any size, it's literally impossible for zoolock to win. If they lose the board they lose the game, they generally don't attack face unless they're forced to go all-in against an even more aggressive deck, or they have board control + minions that are free to attack face with.

Compare that to hunter which not only has its hero power, but also direct damage cards like quickshot or kill command. Or mage with hero power, frostbolt, fireball, etc.
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>>152517705
>board control makes or breaks all aggro decks
Are you retarded? Most aggro decks have a ton of damage that can be played directly out of hand with no board presence.
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THE WORST BLUFF IN THE WORLD WORKED!
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>Whoops
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>>152517705
Incorrect. Mage, Shaman and Hunter do not need any board to burn your face down for 10+ dmg in one turn. Zoo needs board or minions at least.

And if the control deck is not controlling the board, then they're fucking dead meat.
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dude looks like ed from ed edd n eddy
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>>152518251
not really
most aggro decks are screwed if they don't get in at least like 15 damage before losing the board
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>>152518116
Thank you, that explanation of Aggro Control is exactly why Zoo is OP and has been since the dinosaurs existed.

Now, I can't wait for some retard to reply to this post and argue that I'm wrong. It's like a litmus test for stupidity, every time.
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POST THE LATEST PRIEST MEMES
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>>152512250
Sounds like a reasonable reaction
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>>152517723
the whole fucking part doesn't even make sense in hearthstone because you can only attack face in magic and every minion has taunt if opponent feels like it
>while any creatures that might block are burnt out of the way
tell me when zoo uses burn to remove taunts u fucking nigger cunt

would a magic aggro deck use burn on a tormented soul? fuck no. but zoo would still clear enemy 1/1s even if they don't have taunt
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>>152518416
>>152518489
>>152518497
what happened?
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that game was sick
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>smash some freezecuck shitter
>he adds me to flame me for playing "no skill" hunter


is there anything better than busting up dipshit freezecucks
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>>152518116
>>152518541
>permission, removal, and bounce
Look at all these zoo mechanics! Holy fuck magic fags should just fucking kill themselves
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>/hsg/ is now full of newfags

"zoo is control" is the oldest meme in /hsg/, stop arguing you retards
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>>152517986
explain it to me then
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>>152518205
>double soulfires your face
heh... nice taunt, kid
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>>152518819
some people just say it as a meme but other retards say it unironically
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>>152518116

Saving this. Zoo is Aggro Control is the new meme, confirmed.
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>>152518627
>let me just ignore your call out and restructure what I said to address some bullshit that has nothing to do with the discussion

You can't even make this shit up.
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What decks is Crazed Scientist good in? Just Zoo/Aggro?
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>>152518665
Freeze mage had 20 damage in hand, opponent was at 22 hp.

Spent the entire turn moving the target of his fireball around as if he was tempted to hit one of the minions. Last second, he mouses over a 1 HP minion with his hero power, and right as the rope ends, hits the opponent with the hero power as he planned from the beginning. Then emotes Oops.
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zoo literally is a control deck you hacks
you control the board

why is this so hard
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>>152518853
>guy who only plays netdecks asking to be spoonfed
you cant make this shit up
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>>152518819
is this screenshot also a meme because holy shit
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How is your heroic menu looking /hsg/ ?
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>>152519128
everyone gets a (You) today
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>>152518819
It may have been a meme, and it may even still be a meme, but it's also a fact that Zoo is control.
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>>152519024
there can't be a fucking "ignores minons" part in a magic article because in that retarded piece of shit game you don't even get a choice in what you attack
point is aggro ignores minions without taunt to go face
zoo clears the board and only goes face when it doesn't have anything else to hit
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>>152519168
>explain it to me then
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>>152519214
thansk senpai have one yourself
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>>152518819
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>>152519208
Same as your fampai. The wolf was a real bitch, but the crone was real easy with aggro pally.
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>>152519078

He had 21 damage, but otherwise yeah. Muzzy ended up playing hellfire so he could pop the ice block and then siphon'd his own minion, keeping him in range of exact lethal. His only out was to siphon his own guy and pass without popping the block, but he probably couldn't have known that.
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Zoo is control, tempo and aggro all in one. Zoo is the very concept of living the dream.

And consequently the best deck because Gul'dan's hero power makes it possible to stuff that shit with literally anything and still win games.
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>>152519357
>aggro ignores minions

Do you even play this game?
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>>152519357
>point is aggro ignores minions without taunt to go face
nice made-up definition faggot
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>>152519432
Would you believe me if I tell you I beat the wolf first try with a standard beast druid deck?
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>>152519208
I didn't think they could make an adventure easier than LoE. I was wrong. The hero powers make it easier for you, as opposed to naxx where they didn't hold your hand at all.

Speaking of which, can you still get BRM and Naxx heroic cardbacks?
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>>152519514
Gul'dan's hero power allows you to go for low cost tempo without fearing about card draw.
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>>152519357
>point is aggro ignores minions without taunt to go face

no, retards do this

even face hunter takes value trades early on because they result in more fave damage ver the course of the game

it just so happens that because of how zoo is built and how good it is at playing off a wide board, for zoo, value trades continue to result in more overall damage longer into the game than they do for most other aggro decks
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>>152519564
>>152519568
it sure is more applicable to hearthstone than your worthless articles about a COMPLETELY FUCKING DIFFERENT GAME WITH COMPLETELY DIFFRENT COMBAT MECHANICS

retarded magic landwhales
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>>152519631
>Speaking of which, can you still get BRM and Naxx heroic cardbacks?
of course
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>>152519631
Yes, if you have the wings.
New player can't get Naxx heroic.
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>>152519372
have an original thought and try to figure out why he would want a senjin in his deck.
some people really do struggle to pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel
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>>152518819
>>152519414
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Jesus christ this is so nerve wracking
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>>152519725
the concept of shitting a bunch of 1 drops to get advantage early crosses over
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>>152519781
>struggle to pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel

I like this phrase, never heard it before and it would be awkward to use in irl conversation but I like it
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>>152519208
>paying $$$ for hearthstone content
disdain for plebs
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>>152518874
>double soulfires your face
>double soulfires
>double
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>tfw you win 3 times in a row with a meme deck for a daily that you randomly threw together

can any feeling compare /hsg/?
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>>152519725
Oh boy, now he's using capslock.

Remember kids, capital letters makes your opinion a fact.
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>>152520083
if that's what it takes to make u morons realize heathstone IS NOT MAGIC THE FUCKING GATHERING then so be it
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>>152520005
getting legend of course

not that you'd know, garbage /hsg/ shitstain
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>>152520005
>#justshieldbearerthings
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>>152520190
I remember when I was 14. Consider that other people might have something to teach you and that you're not the first person in the world to try to figure things out
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so im barely claiming my hay day money and was wondering if it will pull money from my amazon fun bucks or card because the only option it gives me when buying is the 1-click buy option
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>>152520385
i don't give a flying fuck about anything magic babbies try to teach me about magic because I don't play that garbage

no go back to /tg/ or learn how hearthstone works, retarded moron
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>>152520190
not an argument
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So, wait. Hol' up. I just want to make sure I got this shit straight once and for all.

Zoo is control because of the similarity between magic the gathering and hearthstone?

I mean, what the fuck they're both card games I guess. Shouldn't we be comparing it to something more normie like Poker in that case?
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Reminder that we will NEVER get another Hay Day like promotion thanks to russians who made over 4000 accounts.

Disgusting pieces of shit.
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>>152520590
yes it is, unlike your epic reaction images
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Can we all just stop for a second and appreciate how in many cases, dragon warrior isn't god's gift to hearthstone and often gets holes in it's curve?

You see this, faggots? This doesn't happen to zoo 98% of the time. That's the trade-off you make for playing all of your high-end toys. It's fine if you want to circlejerk over perfect curve and answer dragon warrior but please don't try to tell me it's consistent.
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>>152520730
>THIS ISN'T MAGIC REEE KILL URSEFL
nah this is just not an argument
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this FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER shaman what THE FUCK is he doing

I'd have made that warrior concede 3 turns ago
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>>152519781
i don't know why he would want one, so explain it to me
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>>152520982
it's really hard anon, I cant help you sorry

maybe he's a fan of the artwork idk
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>>152519725
>>152520190
>literally REEEEEE the post
>not even memeing it, just literally REEEEE

You need to let it go if it's this hard for you to control yourself.
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I'm glad this fucking peruvian shitskin is getting his shit pushed in

he played retarded all game starting from turn FUCKING TWO
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>Arena still isn't standard cards only
???????????
?
?
?
?
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>>152520841
it's consistent because rng is rigged
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>>152520841
he still won easily
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>>152521203
>>152520845
Great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions
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Seriously, why is this guy dressed like a clown and why is this allowed?

No, it's not because he's gay.
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>>152521295

Because the shaman player was retarded and aggro shaman is the same way. Surprise surprise they don't always get turn 1 trogg turn 2 golem turn 3 golem.
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I hope it's a Blue Eyes
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>>152521394
because he's a baller
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>>152521318
>Not thanking RNGesus after you win in wizardpoker
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>>152521394
because he swallows brode's cum on the regular
>>
Literally 17

A CHILD
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>>152521394
id 100% let him fuck my bf
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>>152521484
>they don't always get turn 1 trogg turn 2 golem turn 3 golem.
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>>152521394
>No, it's not because he's gay.
I think that's the exact reason. No straight guy would ever dress like that.
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>>152521369
cmon bud you gave up the reasonable argument route long ago
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>>152521518
grom

>>152521543
he's 19
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>>152521394
In a word: liberals.

In two words: political correctness.

Vote Trump in November, Make America Great Again. Or vote for pic related. Your choice.
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>>152521394
Don't fuck with Pagan Min
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>>152521629
i don't even remember what I was arguing against I'm jsut trying to insult magic babbies

fuckign retarded morons
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Okay, so old people don't play e-sports usually because their mechanical skill degrades over time.

But what's stopping all the geezers from playing hearthstone?
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>>152521705
For fuck's sake how many times are you going to shoehorn that fucking tool into the thread
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>>152521536
>>152521596
>>152521619
I said it's not because he's gay.

Do not dispute me. I know this. I'm a spy.
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>>152521484
>Surprise surprise they don't always get turn 1 trogg turn 2 golem turn 3 golem.

nah, they just get 1 trogg 2 golem 3 flametongue 4 faceless

every time
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>>152521654
>>152521518
Hey, it could have been Dinkmaster
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>emo kid playing again
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>>152520654
Not necessarily.
Hay Day promotion was run by the developer/publisher/whatever of the game, not by Amazon itself.
There is always a chance some other dev will try promoting their game that way.
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>>152521889
You got a cool leggo at least.
>tfw he'll never be good
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>>152521894
emo CHEATER
almost swiped a win off our guy rooftrellen
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Why do people spam catcam/catcum/coolcat whenever leadpaint plays??? I don't know this meme halp.
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>>152521987
OUR GUY!!!!
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I'm having fun with this game, should I buy the Karazhan thing
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Why the fuck do people want Priest to be viable. The class is cancer to its core.
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>>152521775
GTFO cuck we don't need your kind around here. Take Frodan with you, we've got Kibler.
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>>152520654
So what? I got over 500 packs too. Why wouldn't you get the most free shit that you can? Sounds like you're salty cause you were too lazy or stupid to do it yourself.
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>>152521991
>wanting to get in on memes you don't understand
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>>152522054
sure, if you want to succeed at the game
if you spend any money on the game to begin with the adventures give you the best value for your money
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>>152522117
Can't wait till Trump loses the election and you /pol/turds all hang yourselves :D
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>>152522107
Then let priest be viable in a way that doesn't feel "cancerous", though every single deck from tier 3 and up will always be called cancer.

I want healing to be meta, but blizz refuses to let priests have enough heal synergy for a deck around it.
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>>152522107
This

Reddit always complains that Priest is not good but when it is (Beta Control, Lightbomb Priest) they complain that its unfun to play against
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>>152522107
How the fuck is it cancer, you crybaby? It's got a lot of fun and interesting cards and mechanics. Just because you get buttblasted when you get your minions stolen doesn't mean the class should be in the dumpster.
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>>152522256
>>>/reddit/
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>>152522256
fuck off ralph
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>>152522334
they're right t b h
priest is super unfun to play against now when it's not good because of shit like entomb, i will hate this game when it becomes more viable.
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You know, I keep seeing anons trash talk OC cards. Well, if it's so very easy to make a good card, why don't we see your exemplar skills at design then?
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>>152522256
>Can't wait for the downfall of civilization

Okay.
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who are we cheering for here? the emo or the "cool" church guy
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>>152522561
leadpaint, emo kid is a cheater
>>
WILL RAG SNIPE FACE
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>yfw Yogg carries again

Someone let the emo kid go home.
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>>152522508
looks like its OC time
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>>152522508
Sure, I'm pretty proud of this one, I worked really hard on it.
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>>152522508
That's way overstated for a card that can easily go on for the whole match. 1 stat less for that effect is ridiculous.
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RAG WHIFFED IT
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I love ESPORTS!
>>
PRAISE YOGG
>>
nice esport dorks... 50/50 win or lose.. nice
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>yogg rng
>brawl rng
>rag rng
>juggle rng
>barnes rng


"competitive" hearthstone
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is there a place i can see these decks being used in the tournament here? i want to make a token druid deck but the ones online seem kind of iffy.
can anyone post their decks?
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>another game decided by RNG with a rag 50/50

ESPORTS!
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>>152522798

>that can easily go on for the whole match

what?
>>
NICE GAME BLIZZ

SURE IS GREAT TO SEE COMPETITVE DECIDED BY MULTIPLE INSTANCES OF PURE RNG
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>>152522725
lmao
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>>152521991
catcam is leadpaint
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>All this rng in a SINGLE game

Was this Ben Brode's dream?
Was this his vision of a healthy HS?
Is this his Outer Heaven?
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Why don't they just have them flip a coin an decide the winner? Would save going through 30 minutes of meaningless roping.
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>>152522361
>>152522364
>>152522524
>>152522804
>>
RAG COINFLIPS WILL ALWAYS BE STANDARD
EVERY TOURNAMENT TILL THE GAME DIES
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Guys what the fuck am I supposed to do with this?
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>>152523021
lel
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>>152522989
okay but who is catcam???
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>>152522561
catcum is our guy
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>>152523089

Dust
Its a free good lego of your choice
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Can we just keep these casters and not put gaydan on again please?

>one straight guy, one straight girl
>both relatively attractive
>no minorites
>no fucked up colored hair
>no fatties

Perfection.
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>>152522995
HS is designed for casuals
competitive has never been the focus

go play sc2 cs:go or dota2 if you want esports
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>Big Game Hunter used to be 3 mana

how could they let it go on for so long?
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>>152522672
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>>152523156
>no fatties
>that lardplanet on the left
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>Pally wins because he topdecked Equality
Fuck you nigger.
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>>152523089
why are you opening tgt packs? People are so dumb nowadays.
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>>152523156
can we just have kibler Tbh. women talking about video games is one of my peeves
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>>152523156
>no fatties
ummmmmm.......
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>>152523126
He's Kaceytron's whipping boy on stream
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>>152523126
leadpaint
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>>152523156
>relatively attractive
You mean,
>having the ruggedly attractive face of a Roman statesman
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>>152523258
don't they drop from arena?
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>>152523219
what the fuck
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>>152523258
Extra gold, have everything I want from Classic and Old Gods, wanted to try and fish for some of the fun TGT leggos.

I made a mistake.
>>
>9 months since LoE
>people still falling for the reno meme
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>>152523156
>no fatties
overweight = fat
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>>152523089
>>
>Execute
>1 mana
>Run in every warrior deck ever

>Assasinate
>5 mana
>Run in no rogue decks ever

>Only difference is 4 fucking mana and the damaged trigger

"Clearly they are balanced fairly" -Hearthstone dev team
>>
lel
>>
>>152522508

This is the most exemplar one I've got, famalam. If you post it again anywhere please give me credit.
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>>152523835
sap > execute
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>>152523835
>comparing class cards
I
SHIGGY
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>>152523835
>Basic Rogue cards are to powerful
*Muffled HAHAHAHAH in the distance*
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>>152522508
If by "OC" you mean "Miracle Rogue wet dreams" then sure I've got one of those
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>>152503203
genuinely awful, and kinda sad that you find it original in any way.
>>
Man Priest of the Feast is actually a really good card. You can heal like 12 off it EZ. I wish there was a discover card for Priest spells like there are for Mage and Paladin and Druid, though.
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>>152523897
Post dick. My N'Zoth rogue is letting me down.
I think it's the Karahzan 1 drop that's fucking me. I think I got memed.

Also what kind of Hunter runs Reno?

>inb4 shieldbearer
No, I'm rank 19 since I dropped 3 ranks today.
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>>152523156
Frodan isn't gay. Cora is a fatty.
>>
Is beast druid likely to be a T1 deck after Menagerie Warden drops?

I've got enough dust for a new legendary and I've been wanting to craft Fandral for a while.
>>
what would be the most op card in the game if it was made neutral/moved classes? would it be charge?
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Is this card as shit as I think it is?
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>>152523089
i want to FUCK silver hand regent
>>
get fucked aggro shitters
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>>152524235
no

>>152524278
it's very good
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>>152524226

I said relatively. She's really not that bad, I never said she was a 10/10 model or something.

I'd still take her over Frodan any day. Frodan is gay.
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>aggro shitter BTFO

good stuff you emo dork you
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>>152523913
>when he go to do
>he don't it
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>>152524435
Frodan really isn't gay.
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The idea is to make a deck that racks up in value with heals or have removals with auchenai. What am I missing? What should I add? Keep in mind I'm a f2pfag and expansions are out of the question
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>>152523835
What's interesting is that Hunter's Mark is almost the same as Execute (Execute is obviously more flexible) yet many Hunter decks do not run it, even when it was just zero mana.
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>>152523835
But you can't use Execute on undamaged minions anon. It's not like warrior has a 1 mana spell that damages every minion, or 1 mana spell that deals 1 damage and summons a 2/2. Or a 3 mana minion that damages every minions. Or a 2 mana spell that deals 1 or 3 damage to all. Or a 2 mana minion that deals 1 damage to target minion.

Do you understand how hard it is for warrior to actually damage a minion so that it can be executed?

What's next? Are you going to tell me that Shield Slam is OP? Poor Garosh can barely get 60 armor and you want to take that spell away from him?
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>>152522508
I dont have N'Zoth so it's more a deathrattle deck. Not that good either sadly.
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>>152524278
it's very good in secret shitter hunter because it can pull huntress for your secrets or secrets for your huntress

oh and easy call lategame
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>>152524278
>1 mana choose which card you topdeck

its insane
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>>152524506
That's because Hunter's Mark only works on minions.

Why would Hunter want something that no go face?
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>>152523156
As a heterosexual male:
That grill is not attractive even with that high amount of make up.

But i can't deny the fact that i would like to look like Kibler.
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>>152524495
He really is, though.

I mean, I can say he is as much as you can say he isn't.
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>>152524278
>1 mana draw call of the wild
>shit
you are probably retarded
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>>152524296
>dem nips
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>>152524496
divine spirit inner fire MEGALUL
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It's the little things, like slowly climbing ladder.
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hurtstone
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>>152524278
it should be in literally every hunter deck that has call of the wild
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>>152524506
you can't hunters mark a minion after it kills something, but you can execute it
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I'm the guy who unpacked Golden Cairne in the last thread. Is it worth crafting N'zoth to start running him?
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>About to get to rank 8
>Lose seven (7) games in a row to ridiculous RNG
>Same shit happened yesterday
I hate everything.
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>>152524506
because the only activator for it is unleash, and it didn't have as many targets when everyone ran deathrattle shit

when there was 2 mana buzzard it was a 2 of because you could afford to thrown cards away
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>>152524623
You can but you are actually wrong. He looks like a faggot, but once he talks he doesn't come across as camp. Other streamers when asked have confirmed he isn't gay.
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>>152522508
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>>152524707

I wanna fuck that goat.
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>bringing reno to tournaments
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>>152524737
>turn two 5 attack 5 hp lightwell that heals itself and synergizes with 3 cards in deck or to mitigate dmg with high dmg low hp minions

IDK about divine spirit I need more removal. What should I add then you faggot
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>>152523156
As I gay guy, I would love if I could have two Kibler for casters.
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>>152524925
lightwell GIGALUL
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>>152524861
>not camp (he kinda is, he just doesn't have a lisp and he isn't a little bitch about things)
>other people have said he's not gay

neither of these things mean he isn't gay
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>>152524138
>>152523897
Here the decklist. If you have suggestions, go for it.
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>>152525034
You have pisspoor gaydar m8
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>>152524506
If you're flooding the board as hunter you're probably going face and it's not worth it unless you're going through a taunt. Even then owl used to be better because it'd enable kill command.

If you're playing a slower deck you're probably getting one minion out per turn and really don't want to waste it by having to trade 2/1
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Holy shit this faggot is annoying

Someone needs to slap his shit
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WHAT IS HE SAYING LMAO
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>Sottle's face as he asks HotMEOWTH "I gotta ask man, what's up with the name?" *this face*
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>>152525017
ok now you're just a metafag
I asked with hopes of people that knew how to play the game like kripp autism level that sees synergy

gb2 to playing secret pally on wild lol
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>Warrior doesnt get a single hit on my face entire game, never has board, I never let him have a single thing up for a single turn

>Alex's me to 15 from 30, remove alex with shadowstrike + an SI7 agent instantly
>Constantly have a taunt up every turn afterwards

>The first turn there's no taunt up, he grom's and uses inner rage and one shots me

Fun and interactive game

Never mind the fact that I resurrected about 30 mana worth of minions with N'zoth, because the warrior has a charge minion I lose.
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>come back to hearthstone after a year break
>climbing with tempo mage
>keep getting cucked by warriors at around rank 8
>make a midrange hunter to get past
>now up solely against zoo/shaman/hunters
matchmaking is a scam
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Emeowth confirmed for huge faggot.
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>>152525154
I 'like' this post.
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Hotmeowth

I am getting high amount of second hand embarrassment.
STOP THIS NOW.
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HAHAHAH LE MEMIS XD I LOVE LE MEMESY
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>>152524138
Wrong deck...
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this kid needs to be beaten up badly
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CUT THE MIC
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>team kys
>kind of a meme team

does yung hitler post here
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>>152523089
Is this guy literally the worst card in the game? There are some bad ones, but he's got terrible stats, an effect that more often than not screws you over, and a mana cost that means you never want to play him. I honestly can' think of a worse card.
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>>152525098
but anon, I am gay
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>sottle trying hard to end the interview
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>admits to netdecking from vicious syndicate

LOLOLOL. These are the hearthstone "professionals"????
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>>152525154
>a meme team called 'KYS'
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Is there even one person in this thread who's surprised that Reno Lock is a bad deck?

And don't you fucking lie to me or try to hide. I'll know. I can smell your shame, and I find its stink highly offensive.
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>>152525256
>you can't spell meowth without E M O
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>>152525315
prince malchezaar is the worst
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>>152525204
divine spirit inner fire lightwell is literally babby's first entry memedeck everyone made in early 2015
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>>152525215
Why didn't you hit his face more aggressively and force him to trade with you.

If you're going to be so board reliant that's the condition you should build your deck with, you can't be board reliant and also so heavily reactive otherwise you'll have no opportunity to actually win.
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>that feel when you get Anomalus as a Rogue Deathrattle
Noice.
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>>152525309
of course, he's probably one of the anime autists
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>>152525315
I think he would be pretty awesome in mage, but as a hunter card it's just pure shit.
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>>152502392
quick shot?
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>>152525359
That doesn't mean shit. I bet you hit on straight guys all the time.s
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>>152525430

In control/fatigue matchups whoever has Malchezaar automaically beats whoever doesnt
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>>152525401
i enjoy getting matched against reno cucks
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That interview, wew lads
I dont think ive laughed that hard in such a long time
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The rock and roll casters are back! Time to rev up those harleys.
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>8 mana destroy your whole n'zoth board
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>BLIZZARD PLEASE NERF YOGG

good interview desu don't know what you guys are complaining about

>>152525401
they got powercreeped out and didn't receive any new cards to play with
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>>152525370
VS is legitimately the only HS information site worth a single shit though.
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>>152525430
malchezaar is literally gonna be better than dr boom in arena
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>>152525556
no... having 5 garbage legs means you are much less likely to draw removal when required. you will probably lose board and therefore the game.
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>>152525448

I was trying to

Brawl
Brawl
Execute
Execute
Gorehowl
Slam
Slam
Ravaging ghoul

Etc.
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>>152525430
Malchezaar has niche uses, is okay for new players, and can be fun. Nobody looks at Acidmaw and thinks, "Wow, I'd find a way to have fun with that if I pulled it."

Wonder if anyone's ever crafted him.
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>>152503935
Online is better than physical and online in a game with instants is slow as shit
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>>152525701
i find acidmaw unleash to be a bit more useful than anything that steaming pile of shit malchezaar could ever do
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>>152525485
>play n'zoth
>resurrect anomalus
>TIME FOR A LESSON, INSOLENT PUP
>gg
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>>152525654
you're talking to a general that has tempostorm as the literal first link in the OP and quotes it regularly, though.
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>Shall we put a jap in their plans

What did he mean by this?
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>>152525850
Joke on them. I dont own N'zoth
MWAHAHAHAAHA
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>>152525851
kek fair point
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Which one of you faggots is this? N'Zoth Rogue in Wild, Rank 9?
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>>152503604
Whenever you play a 1 cost minion, add a copy to your hand
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>>152525662

Who gives a shit about board in fatigue

Also assuming the legos are garbage

Also 5 extra cards in deck isnt "much less likely"
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>>152525874
>le wrong card quote
>le no time for gays
>le disguised toast

They like making the same insipid jokes and patting each other on the back at a certain other website you might want to try visiting sometime.
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I hate frost mage.

The whole game is them not playing anything except one card a turn and then they drop two Arcane Golem.
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>>152525975
>idiots keep playing Flame Imp, suicide with it and complain how the card is shit
>>
You have 5 seconds to come up with an acceptable reason basics cards shouldn't have been upgraded instead of making the +stat fillers.

That doesn't involve pure jewery
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>>152526187
>literally rank 17 against a rank 18
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>>152526146
Wait a minute, he doesn't say "heh, disguised toast"? Serious question. What does he say?
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>>152526292
2/3 rifleman when
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>tempo with no card draw
>memegod

Jaina pls.
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>>152526301
I play casually. I literally only play to do my quests once every 3 days.
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>>152526292
>but it's fun for new players to get shit stomped by better stated cards!
>>
>yogg immediately hexes itself

you can't make this shit up
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>>152526292

Because -
>That doesn't involve pure jewery
Oh, okay.
>>
FROGG SARON
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>>152526187
what the fuck did you waste your saps on?
>>
>>152526324
>Heh, this guy's toast.
It's a slightly outdated slang, when someone is "toast" they are defeated or hurt in some way.
>>
Is that the worst Yogg of the whole tournament right?
>>
>>152526292
It's just how card games go, it's good for the game.

It's pretty much impossible to make interesting cards at a certain point if there's no power creep.
>>
>>152526558
What is a sap?
>>
>>152526467
you're playing it correctly my man
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>>152526467
My negro.
I play almost the same deck, the same way and I'm the same rank.
>>
>>152526623
only the single best rogue class card in the game
>>
>>152526449
We already have Rifleman creep, it's called Blood to Ichor.
>>
>>152526692
no it isn't

>>152526708
i need a neutral
>>
What is zoolock's winrate in this tourney? I don't think I've seen it lose a single time.
>>
krippO
>>
>>152526692
HAVE AT YOU
>>
>>152526467

Get up around rank 15 at least, you get a free golden rare and past that you won't face very many meme decks like you do at your rank.
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>>152526589

Thats the lazy answer. There are plenty of new concepts not even begun to be explored.

Pompous thespian is just a shitty filler card

Because blizzard has realised they dont want to give us actual GOOD cards, because then we wont buy new cards

Hence every set since GvG having LOTS of shit cards
>>
>>152526949
Yeah, I usually end up at 14-16 range. It mostly depend if the quests target my better decks like Dragon Priest.
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>When you mind vision their mirror of doom

Does any class get their opponent as angry as Priest?
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>>152526998

You're right but you're looking at it from a consumer-having-fun perspective instead of a company-maximizing-profit perspective. If you do the latter things will start to make sense.

In short though, they don't give a shit and they don't have to give a shit because people keep giving them a bunch of money. Our best bet is getting some competition which forces Blizzard to improve their game or risk losing customers to a different, better game.
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>>152526589
I would understand that if the card he showed actually had some new game mechanics or was interesting in any way.
But it's not. It's a 2 drop with taunt and not a single stat less to compensate that taunt.
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>>152527167

Good companys can make a good game focused on pleasing the customer with a good service, and a happy customer, is a spending customer.

Its how more popular games like Dota 2 or Overwatch make so much money without any obvious jewery.

Hearthstone is obviously blizz's pet project head up by the amateur team, hence its less than stellar handling
>>
>>152527269
Yeah that's what power creep IS
You need to raise the floor before you can add better, more interesting cards or it becomes a mess to balance
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GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS


Can Malkorok equip you with Atiesh?

if so, faggotry
if not, even worse
>>
>>152527269
One is common, the other is uncommon.

This is the same in every card game like hearthstone. The higher the rarity, the better the value most of the time.
>>
>>152527269
How can such slender old guy deal more damage than a massive warrior thug?
>>
>>152527423
no
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>>152527435

Grunt isnt common, its a base card you start with

Thespian is common,
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>>152527423
he can't equip non-cards like rogue dagger n shit
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>>152527423
malkorok cannot equip unobtainable weapons like ashbringer or the sharp fork so it is unlikely that he can equip you with atiesh
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>>152527120
I'm extremely surprised that with 21 damage on board and four cards in hand he had no way to kill you.
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>>152527395
"Can" and "Must" are different things.

They're lazy and focus on the casual audience while ignoring the competitive, but they're hardly being punished for it. You might call them a bad company but they're making a hefty, consistent profit, so from a business standpoint they're actually a good company because they make a lot of money.

Essentially, ultimately, what they've done has worked and is working. The game is wildly popular with no competition in sight, and they continue making tons of money every year. Why should they change? They only care about making a "good game" insofar as they're making a good profit, and thus far they're doing that, understand?

Apparently sounds and flashy graphics are more important than core mechanics, casuals also love RNG. There are plenty of other digital card games, hell even f2p model ones, which arguably much better rules, but they've failed and hearthstone has remained strong. Look at the travesty that is magic duels for example. Or scrolls. Or duelyst. Or Solforge. Or hex.

Understand?
>>
ooga booga where da new thread at?
>>
STORIES TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS
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druid shitter btfo
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>>152528120

They're a good company in the sense of turnover, but they're bad in terms of the product/service they're providing.

Technically, its also a tad irresponsible because the game is attached to the Warcraft brand, and Hearthstone being shit reflects poorly on the brand and on blizzard as a company.

>Understand

No need to be patronising anon, I understand how business works. Im saying, there are more things at stake in a game like hearthstone than just money
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>>152528274
right here

new thread
>>152528424
>>152528424
>>152528424
>>152528424
>>
>all of these Bo5 matches going to 2-2

Literally coinflip: the game.
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>>152528461
I didn't mean to be patronizing, it just seems like you're purposefully avoiding accepting the point. I'll try to be more direct, because I agree with you but:

>they're bad in terms of the product/service they're providing.

Doesn't matter, whatever you may think of it, it's selling.

>its also a tad irresponsible because the game is attached to the Warcraft brand, and Hearthstone being shit reflects poorly on the brand and on blizzard as a company.

Doesn't matter, whatever you may think of it, it's selling.

>there are more things at stake in a game like hearthstone than just money

Except that there aren't, and ultimately whatever they're doing, it's working which is proven by the money they're raking in. You can't argue with that. You can say you don't like it or criticize it's imperfections, but you can't deny it's working well right now.

Things were going to shit with the GvG meta so they were forced to make Standard, and it worked. That was a business decision, to save the game from people quitting and retain customers and grow the player base.

It's literally all about money. You might be mad and say thespain is filler but people are still buying the adventure and that's all that matters. If people aren't buying it then they'll change shit.
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>>152527269
I'd say it's hard to claim power-creep when it's done to "unplayable" cards like magma rager and Frostwolf Grunt.

it's just blasphemy that a frostwolf orc is weaker than a cartoon nightelf.
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