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/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #404

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"Why is Warryn even here" Edition

Previous Thread: >>152379841

Life is Strange is an episodic interactive drama from DONTNOD Entertainment. Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Maxine Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to turn hella gay to rewind time. At the prestigious Blackwell Academy, Max must prepare with Chloe Price for the incoming storm of returning to her hometown after five years. Available on Steam, PSN and Xbox Live.

>Official Website:
http://lifeisstrange.com

>Steam:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/319630/
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4chanlisg

>/lisg/ Permalink:
http://orph.link/lisg

>FAQs, Old Threads/Strawpolls, Soundtrack/Music & Leaks:
http://orph.link/lisgarchive

>/lisg/ Community Written Fan Fiction:
http://orph.link/story

>Compilation of Fanfics:
http://orph.link/fanfic

>/lisg/ Content Producers:
http://imgur.com/a/DOAKn

>/lisg/ sings Glass Walls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQJgF3NToUg

>Strawpolls:
http://strawpoll.me/10882668
http://strawpoll.me/10909518
http://strawpoll.me/10936261
http://strawpoll.me/10990015
http://strawpoll.me/11005852
http://strawpoll.me/11012705
http://strawpoll.me/11013698
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Our Father who art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
And forgive us our debts,
As we also have forgiven our debtors;
And lead us not into temptation,
But deliver us from evil.
Amen.
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pricefield OTP
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>it's an episode where you're resting your head on Kate's lap and she pets you and then you wake up
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>>152469835
Thank you for being here, Kate.
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It's pretty difficult being happy when you keep desiring Kate.

To be happy you must rid yourself of desire.
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I want to hug Max.
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>>152470467

Whenever I make friends with a girl I make it an effort to be friendly enough to them to the point she'll hug me in a way where I can feel her boobs press against me.
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Hello? Are you even listening Maxine?!?
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>>152470467
I want to kiss Chloe.
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>>152470613
t. Warren
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>>152470905
>Max
>boobs

nope
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>>152470613
>make friends with a girl
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>>152470965
Max's bebs are alright
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>>152471790
No lewd.
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>>152472040
But she can be very lewd
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>>152470881
Calm down, Max. I'm sure Chloe would have any issue with that but you don't need to announce it.
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So did Max and Chloe head to Seattle after the bae ending?
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>>152473657
no, they went straight to the hell, as their souls couldn't take all the murders they've committed
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>>152473657
Of course they did. And after a brief meltdown where Chloe freaked out on Max for killing Joyce, they patched things up and lived together happily indefinitely
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>>152473657
That's what I (and many others) seem to think.
In would say Max and Chloe drive out of AB, stop at a motel for a day because they both need actual rest, then get to Seattle the night after the storm. Then they stay with Max's parents, Chloe hears from Joyce/ David and Max hears from her friends once cell service is restored.
A week or two later, Max and Chloe go back to AB for Rachel's funeral and to see their family and friends. Then they go back up to Seattle to stay for a bit longer until the attention in AB has died down.
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I LOVE KATE!
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>>152474576
gr8 k8 m8 i r8 8/8
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>>152474576
Kate does't love you back.
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>>152474894
Kate loves everyone as long as they aren't sinners.
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>>152474576
KATE IS TOO GOOD FOR YOU
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>>152474958
If she loves everyone, she loves nobody.
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>>152472040
It's not lewd. We are talking purely from a practical, mature standpoint that max has great bebs.
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>>152475169
Beloved, let us love one another; for love is of God, and he who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love does not know God; for God is love.
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>>152473918
Max freaks out because she thinks she killed Joyce. But Chloe tells her whatever happened is in the past and keeps her focuses on making sure Max is alright.
Which is why Chloe learning that her mom is alright, and their eventual reunion, will be great. Chloe would even be glad to see David.
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>wake up in a 2 story house
>Kate is resting beside you
>you two have kids
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>>152469790
I really hope Warren matures as a person and is able to get past his "puppy love" stage, as well as his boisterous teenage one. He's not a bad human being but it's clear Max has no interest in him, and he needs to see this. I hope maybe one day they can become good friends. That said I really hope that anyone who posts Grahamfield on here gets brutally murdered.
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>>152476154
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>>152469835
Thanks for the prayer Kate
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>>152476197
What's the point of being friends with your love interest? It's self-destructing.
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>>152476197
On the flipside he may never mature and he might become one of those fedora tipping "nice guys".
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>>152476527
It's quite possible to get over love for someone. especially in teenage years, if you mature as a person.

Source: me.

>>152476548
I hope not.

Can someone draw/photoshop Warren with a fedora?
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>>152476154
Victoria detected.
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>>152476197
This is a sensible way of thought that I agree with.
Some people also forget that he's 16 in the game, he's either a grade or two behind Max or he somehow jumped ahead (I doubt it). So there's still plenty of time for him to see why he's doing wrong and change. All it takes is for him to find someone he really likes and not just forming feelings very quickly like he seems to do.
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>>152477631
>16 year old hanging in 18 yo's classrooms
He should've had his ass kicked for even coming into the room.
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>>152473657
Makes sense, though Chloe does say when you're in Frank's RV that she imagines going down the coast past Big Sur (i.e. California)
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>>152477754
Blackwell doesn't seem to have the undeclassmen bullying like other schools, it just seems to be those in the Vortex Club shitting on everyone else regardless of all other factors.

>>152477903
I'm sure they'll make it on their road trip eventually. California, Portland, and all across the US. They can do it after they finish school and have saved up money.
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>>152477754
The entire structure of Blackwell is messed up.

>It's a senior's only art school
>There are students there who clearly aren't seniors

I'm guessing Dontnod just guessed what the American education system was like.
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RE: Metamorphosis of Chloe Price

1. This is the creator's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/HellaHappens/submitted/
She uploaded a higher quality version on her vimeo (now deleted as pointed out in the last thread).

2. She shares our low opinion of the finale: https://www.reddit.com/r/lifeisstrange/comments/3phdnu/ep5_spoilersdo_you_guys_remember_my_metamorphosis/cw6a6rl ("This is my last post here and I won't disturb you anymore. I know there will be a lot of people here saying they found it perfect and that I'm complaining too much, blah, blah...."), which might just be why she ended up deleting everything.

3. On youtube it is set to private, so maybe it's not completely impossible to get at the source video (it also contained that short video of Chloe singing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQOBiy0umqU

4. Here is a HQ reupload of the Episode 4 version on some obscure Japanese site: http://www.bilibili.com/video/av4512658/

5. And on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0Dn29M4LQY

6. Video was actually posted several times here, too: https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/123679587/#123738516
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>>152479039
Yeah, I only noticed the 'seniors only' think on my second playthrough and it was very strange. At least it explains why the entire student body consists of only ~48 people
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>>152472115
>Love
>Lewd
Okay, Kate.
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>>152479220
Good finds, Anon.
That makes me sad. Polarized left a bast taste in my mouth but I was able to mostly get over it by just thinking things through, arriving at conclusions, and talking about it here.
But it seems that she just lost all hope for LiS and said she regretted it. I wonder how many people got that feeling where they said at the end that is completely negated the rest of the game's strengths
I wouldn't go that far but I would say Polarized, or at least the epilogues, deserve a revisit and addition to the Sacrifice Arcadia Bay ending.
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>>152479220
>which might just be why she ended up deleting everything.
Yeah, probably. It's tiring when everyone gives you shit.
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>>152479220
That's, um, pretty thorough.
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Have you guys ever read this?

http://mugflub.blogspot.com.br/2016/07/why-life-is-strange-screwed-you-up.html
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>>152479491
Don't forget there are a lot of triplets and twins there too.
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>>152480473
Yep. The penultimate paragraph is pretty depressing in itself
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>>152479581
>>152479851
Thanks! Note: The Japanese site version is the highest quality one. Download as long as you can!

We could also contact the artist. Obviously most here understand why you could hate the endings so much that you begin to despise your contributions that were made in a hopeful feeling and optimistic tone, but maybe we can make her realize how cool her art is and how important that she finishes her video with at least the optimism in mind that we have carved out for ourselves. I think I'll try to contact her.

Btw.: Scriptfriend, this "criis-chan" artist has made among a few others 3 chibi LiS pieces that she apparently never uploaded anywhere (pic related is taken off her youtube speedpainting video). Maybe they are on her twitter? Not feeling like going through ~1.8k pictures, maybe your script can do that? https://twitter.com/Cruuuuuuus

>>152479624
I really think it was the endings, not the fandom. The last post of hers on reddit was a cross-post to a tumblr blog rant about the bummer finale. So I don't think she felt alone. tumblr has always been vocal in their disapproval of Episode 5 and the endings altogether. She also wrote this: "Those meaningless endings made me hate my own fan art -.-"
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>>152480473
I don't agree that "Max and Chloe's relationship is not sustainable". Take away everything involving the tornado, time powers, etc. You have the same result; Max and Chloe still end up together.
At the heart of things is two friends that have been separated for five years, underwent hard times and changes, and then reunited and realized they still got along (Perhaps even better than before). That's entirely sustainable, the only thing the events of the week did was make them makeup quicker so they could focus on the important tasks they faced.
They could have again just by walking past each other in the street or seeing each other at Two Whales. It may have taken a little longer butt he same result would occur.

>>152480715
That's an neat idea. But I think if someone deleted everything then that means they're done with the fandom and want to leave it behind. But if you wanted to contact them and arrange a sort of AMA here or just show them we've talked about their wok and shared their feelings, it may make her feel better if she's still thinking about LiS as much as we are, which may inspire the desire to do more art/ add on to the animation.
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>>152481572
I agree with you overall, but it's worth noting that Chloe was reticent about everything until she finally put two and two together and realized it was Max who saved her life in the bathroom. Max even writes about the sudden change in attitude in her journal.
It's probable that this same rebuilding of trust could have happened without any violent and supernatural shenanigans but at the same time it could have been the catalyst that set everything about their revamped relationship in motion.
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>>152480473
I didn't until now, I can agree with a lot of it. I felt a lot of the same stuff and related heavily to
>I was embarrassed to tell anyone who hadn't played the game (i.e. everyone in my life) how I felt

Thanks for posting it.
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>>152482354
>>152481572
I think the circumstances led to them repairing their friendship at a greatly accelerated rate, given the state Chloe was in, and otherwise it would have taken a lot more time and a willingness to put effort into getting through the guilt and hurt of those five years. But we see how easily they fall back into each other's lives in the AU though too, though that's helped by the timeline being different and Chloe's demeanor being softened. The pair still work after 5 years, is the point.
Either way, I think it's absolutely ridiculous to argue that Max and Chloe can't sustain a relationship. They love each other, they both want to be together, both are willing to push past their own insecurities and issues to stay together. They have a more solid foundation than many of the greatest love stories out there.
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what's she drawing?
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>>152484257
Jefferson impaled on a stake.
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>>152484257
Max and Chloe holding hands
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>>152479220
Anon who asked for it here

excellent fucking work. wow!

do you have any idea how to download the video from that japanese site? I'd really like to get that nice high quality video
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>>152481572
>>152482354
>>152483673

I agree with what you guys are saying, but I think what the writer of that blog was trying to convey is that it is not realistic for people to long for a relationship like Max and Chloe's, because their bond was galvanized over something supernatural, apocalyptic...the adventure of a lifetime and then some. And Max saving Chloe's life over and over, risking her own, and risking the lives of others to do it. It's not sustainable to believe something like that is possible. In fact it is entirely unattainable to an everyday person.
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>>152483673
That's what I thought. The week and circumstances made things move very quickly.
But we also see that even in lives without peril, they meet up again and quickly reconnect.
That's a pretty good indication of true love to me and I see regardless of how they met again it would eventually result in the two of them being together. Their past history, their desires in life, and the balance they get together ensures it.
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Have this stupid pic I did because I apparently have too much free time.
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>>152485485
kek
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>>152485485
>that warryn
kek

I found Carol kind of boring desu
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>accidentally tried rewinding in public
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>>152485680
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm expecting typical hollywood melodrama for when I do.
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>>152485485
Whoops forgot to enable filters
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>>152485130
Well the supernatural part is obviously fictional and not achievable, but that doesn't even seem like a point worth making. People can wish they have powers and stuff but unless they're children, they will (probably) not think that stuff is possible. That desire usually doesn't go beyond 'wouldn't it be neat if i could do that?'
In the context of the writing it looked more to me that they were saying that "Max and Chloe will never work or be sustainable" as if it's doomed to some sort of failure just on the basis of who they are. But that's just the way I read into it, since as I said, you shouldn't have to tell mature people that superpowers are not the right basis for a relationship.
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>>152486052
And as soon as I've posted I am proven wrong by >>152485723
gg.
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>>152486006

Neat.

I'll just bring my money order to school so that my teacher can send it to the publisher and I'll get my book in 2 weeks.
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anyone know how to download the video from this site? I have absolutely no clue how to do this kind of thing but I'd really love to have this video

http://www.bilibili.com/video/av4512658/
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>>152486006
B- But nothing changed?!
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>>152486380
https://my.mixtape.moe/pjyxgp.flv

>>152486490
One thing did.
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>>152486665
Have I told you how much I love you, anon?
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>>152485020
>>152486665
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>accidentally said something stupid at a party
>try rewinding
>girl I'm with thinks I'm trying to grab her boob
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1 day and 20 hours until deus ex comes out

1 day and 20 hours until we can start searching for the Life is Strange references.
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>>152486361
Why don't you, uh, send the money to me?
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I leave you all with gorgeous Chloefied Max.
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>>152487410
I pre-loaded it 2 days ago. The instant that play button shows up, I'm in. If there wind up being no references, it's up to us to mod them in.
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>>152487464

Alright.
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>>152487596
The preload option only came up for me about 12 hours ago, before then there was no option. in 1 day and 20 hours we'll download the rest of the 20 gigs.

>If there wind up being no references, it's up to us to mod them in.

lel as if they wouldn't drop us some references. Eidos are bros and they're Frenchies so they've gotta drop a ref bomb for that sweet dontnod from the true motherland. France
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>>152484257
Probably Alice along with doodles of angels and crosses.
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1/2
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>>152486052
I'm not saying I agree with the logic, that's just how I took it. They were kind of saying "What Max and Chloe have is unattainable so longing for what they have shouldn't be something you dwell on."
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>>152487871

>want a Polaroid like Max's
>have to pay $1000
>have to pay $100 for film
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>>152488140
2/2
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>>152488339
>>152488140
Molli! I like it!
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>>152488302
same here bud. You can get polaroids for 100~ that look aesthetic and film you can buy in bulk for cheaper than singles.
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>>152488469
Gonna get Molli's clock with this picture on it. Looks aesthetic AF
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>sitting on bench
>Kate accidentally sits on my hand
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>>152487589
I don't like the idea of Max going full punk like Chloe. But as a costume for a party, or for a photo shoot it would be cool.
I wonder if Chloe would want to learn how to take pictures like Max. She will never love it as much as Max does, but it could still be fun. Just like Chloe teaching Max how to skate and stuff.
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>>152490018
A wallpaper version someone was kind enough to make for me once.
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I don't like the idea of never being able to be Kate's friend.
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>>152482354
>>152483673
>>152485401
Chloe was not just "reticent" either. The opposite. From the car drive to the first scenes in her room, to the fact that she brings Max home with her to begin with - Chloe cannot really be mad at her. It's obvious that she wants to be, and has reason to. But even with all the shit in her life and between them, she is excited and elated. Very much so before Max was a literal life saviour rather than a potential, figurative one. She takes her back in.

Posted this before: Chloe being positively euphoric that she brought Max back home with her. "You can see how goddamn happy she is to have Max with her. Imagine how often Chloe came back driving home having nothing to look forward to. And now not only did she pick up someone to bring back, but it is freaking Max. She can't help but be euphoric, and the thought that she went out "looking for people" and came back empty-handed like a failed pirate all the time, but now has that Caulfield booty in tow? Her "treasure"? So adorable."

>>152486052
I agree. I didn't read the blog, but if they are implying their relationship is unattainable because it exists because of the supernatural shit: that's wrong. The supernatural is narrative device. The devs and writer themselves have stressed this over and over. At the center is a human story, something more tangibly authentic than tons of people have ever felt in video games (and elsewhere). Obviously since the supernatural kind of exists through and even because of their relationship (powers as manifested love; a love transcending time, defying the universe), it has this "soulmate"/"destined to be together" narrative quality. But at the core it is a believable dynamic between two characters that are impressively, heart-capturingly human. That doesn't mean it is reasonable to expect to ever find someone so dear and complementary, romantically and otherwise, to us, but it also doesn't mean it's not worth striving for or at all attainable.
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>>152490916
>Chloe's adorable smile when looking at Max
my fucking heart
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>>152486665
Stop it. Stop making me feel.
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>>152491369
I have messaged her btw.

Hopefully she will read it, somehow. We need an ending to it. Chloe's metamorphosis is not yet finished.
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>>152491960
>We need an ending to it
Making demands has never been a good strategy for getting people to do things. Hope you phrased it more delicately.
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>>152491960
Nice.
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>>152491960
Cool. Will be awesome if you get a response and the animation goes to the end of the game.
Her criticisms of the ending are like are, it's not even a bad ending. It's not an ending at all. It's just the story stopping.
Too bad Dontnod seems committed to saying everything was fine and most people were happy (When those people probably picked the Bay ending).
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>>152469835
Our father
Who art in hell
Unhallowed be thy name
Cursed be the sons and daughters
Of thine Nemesis
Whom are to blame
Thy kingdom come
nemA
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>>152494612
REWIND THIS
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>>152494612
REWIND NOW.
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>>152492195
I like to think I did.

>Stuff about me (and a larger "/lisg community") sharing her sentiments regarding the endings
>[...]
>Anyways, I don't want this to get too long and rant-y either. What I wanted to say is: Despite all the bullshit, there is a great optimism in the end. Dontnod didn't completely disappoint. We *can* save Chloe. Max and her can be together, alive, healing, powerfully in love. It is this story of a love that transcends space, time and tragedy. We see them overcome, throughout the week, all these imaginably horrible obstables together - and this storm is nothing compared to those. Entire universes bend at the strength of their connection - a storm won't tear them apart, either.
>"We all loved your "Metamorphosis of Chloe Price" video. And we can understand why you would start to despise your work in the disappointment that Episode 5 mostly brought with it. But as it is, your video is not finished. What dontnod only partly managed you can try to achieve for yourself and us. She does not die in the junkyard. She can never die, because she has Max and Max does not eat the bullshit "life" wants to feed her. It's impossible, just like sacrificing Chloe is impossible. Even if she had deceived herself into sacrificing Chloe on that cliff, she would always go back and save her. There's no fate, but they are destined to be together. What are Max's powers if not the manifested evidence of that - that love, that connection, that destiny. And they deserve to be happy. You can give them that happiness. Chloe's metamorphosis is not yet finished.
>...Theatralics aside, we would just really appreciate it very much if you finished and re-uploaded your awesome artwork.
>Thanks and bye! Hope you are alright."

But it is pretty unlikely she will ever read it, seeing as how her reddit account as the only way I've found of contacting her hasn't been active for 9 months now.
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>>152495623
Very well put as well as friendly. Good work.
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>>152495945
Thanks. Hopefully she will read it and think so too.

>>152455096 mentioned a name, but I couldn't find anything. Could be a way to find other means of contacting her though.

...Or we could finish the video ourselves.
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>>152496826
I think the /lisg/ artist closest to her style would be QTori. But I'm not sure how someone would feel about taking their work and adding on to it.
Some people have done it with Renderanon, but they asked him prior to doing it.
I honestly just want more people to build off the ending with videos, animations, art, and stories. It's the only way to give some semblance of a concussion.
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>>152497162
No god damn it. Not concussion.
*Conclusion*
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>>152497162
>semblance of a concussion
>concussion
that's what Michel's endings already felt like, anon
I know you meant conclusion
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"Chloe and Max's Coastline Crusade" should be a rom-com about their road trip down Cali.
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>>152497154
Max's eyes are open like "Oh shit, he was going to kiss me?! Nope."
then she back away leaving him with his eyes closed, and lips puckered, like a fool for a few seconds before he realizes.
Then she's wondering if she told Chloe, would she take it as a joke like "HAHA,, what a dumbass!" or if she would get made and decide to kick Warren's ass.
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>>152498285
gtfo REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>152498285
>>152498060
>>152497154
rewind this
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>>152494612
>Chloe corrupted Kate into becoming a Satan worshiper

I think she went a bit too far.
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>>152498285
Okay. If you fell that way, you can date him (If you can find a way to actually enter that universe).

Max, on the other hand, is quite committed to her feelings for Chloe and nothing will change that.
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>>152498904
no u
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>yfw there are warrencucks in this thread RIGHT NOW
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PRICEFIELD CUTEPOSTING
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>>152499376
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>>152498881
I don't think that was Chloe's doing. If anyone is into the Satanist stuff it's going to be Alyssa.
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>>152499376
Chloe's face is exceptionally unimpressed with Warren's desperate photoshops. She knows she has nothing to fear.
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>>152499376
>Warrencucks are so cucked they have to stay in a community that doesn't welcome them
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>>152499464
The-they look like they're doing something lewd, anon.
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>>152499754
Of course. Chloe knows she's not in competition with anyone for Max's love. She's won that long ago.
And Max isn't in any competition for hers.

>>152499901
Let's just look the other way and give them some privacy.
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>>152499376
54% of people are confirmed shit eaters who sacrificed Chloe. Of course there are Warryncucks everywhere.
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>>152475383
>1st John
Good taste senpai
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Post proof you're not a confirmed shit eater. I'll go first.
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>>152500480
>yfw this is the first time some people have seen yfw warryncucks
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>>152500972
>Prove you're not a shit-eater
>Picks an ending
What are you doing newfriend? That's not how it works.
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>>152495623
Still seems just a little needy with the "finishing" bit, but I might just be too sensitive.
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>>152500972
the lesser of two evils, but I wish I could just go back in time and tell myself to turn the game off at the gallery

>tfw its been 10 months now
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>>152501725
> the stats changing over time
> more new players choosing to sacrifice bae

Why can't I rewind this?
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>>152499901
I bet Max does really lewd things to Chloe after they leave the Bay.
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>>152502985
Yeah I bet they held hands and argued over who loves who more.

Truly degenerate.
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>>152503693
This is a blue board you sick fuck.
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>>152499776

uh excuse me Warren is welcome anywhere!!! chloe hella sucks!
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>>152504487 (You) (You) You)
Have a (You) or two

(You)
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>>152504487
> chloe hella sucks
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>>152504487
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>>152504487
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This must be Nightmare-Max's final attempts to mess with Max's head and abandon Chloe. We won't let her in!
Post Pricefield to help Max get free from this nightmare!
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>>152506909
Shut up warryn, you're not a real scientist.
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>going back in time causes storm
>go back in time to prevent storm

Michel logic
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http://pyx-1.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/game.jsp#game=46
>password: lis
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>>152507406
>>152506909
Guess that means that there's only one real choice, huh?

RIP Arcadia Bay
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>Sacrifice Chloe
>Marry Warryn

What choice do you make /lisg/
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>>152507650
Honestly even if I was convinced that going back would stop the storm, I still wouldn't have done it.
The storm is not Max's fault, she didn't ask for any power, and she shouldn't have to suffer for the rest of her life (And let Chloe die like that) over something she never intended. Especially over something as natural as a tornado that could just as easily pop up in a few weeks because of the weather.
It was never a choice. It always lead to saving Chloe.
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>>152504487
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>>152507540
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>>152509668
>tfw 2 A.M.
meh
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>>152508137
Sacrifice Warryn
Marry Chloe
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>>152509942
Good job, Anon
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>>152510375
No, good job /lesg/
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>>152510726
"Thanks for all your help! We really appreciate it! Come by one of Max's gallery exhibits sometime or hit us up at Two Whales if you see us."
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Good night /lesg/!
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>>152512426
But its only 6 pm
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>>152512426
Night.
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>>152471790
honestly feel like Im looking at child porn. Maybe is just because Im 26 now.
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>>152475558
silly hugbox. We die.
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>>152513785
High unlikely when the Diner did not suffer an explosion/fire in the final timeline.
Something that changed by Max/Chloe not going to the party resulted in Two Whales just having some slight damage. Those inside were either fine aside from minor injuries from glass, took safety in the bathroom, in the freezer, or in a cellar. Of they may not have even been in there and could have been brought to the Dark Room by David.
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She's the cutest.
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>>152514598
She really is.
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>>152513785
>W ay DI E
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>>152512426
Night night frienderino
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>>152514598
>Victoria will never confide her insecurities to you

;_;
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>>152516113
>why even live
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>>152516113
Only ones she'd tell that stuff to would be Nathan, Max, and Kate.
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>>152499776
omg where can I find more of this art
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>>152514372
characters lie, plot points frequently misdirect. This game does it all the time, like making a somewhat creepy and touched character like Samuel have scarves and shit in his closet.

symbolism in shows and movies never lie. Because doing so would destroy any credibility the symbolism has (would make it useless, pointless). Learn to film class.
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>>152517808
One point the game made was how one change can result in larger ones. That's the Butterfly Effect.
Max and Chloe made changes and without seeing anything to contradict it, I'm going to use my ability as the player, going by what I witnessed, to conclude that one of those changes was that the diner did not explode.
If Dontnod wanted to prove me wrong then they could have shown it.
Don't tell people "use your imagination" and then tell them they're doing it wrong.
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Sup lisg, how is everyone doing?
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>>152517808
W =/= "We"

Besides, yes, in that timeline the Diner is set to blow up and the occupants likely to die - but that doesn't mean this is necessarily the case in the final timeline.

Here's film lesson for you: Absence of confirmation of decease equals presumption of survival.

That said, I personally don't have any particular headcanon either way as far as the ramifications of the storm goes. That's not what that ending is about to me anyway.
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>>152519242
highly suicidal due to the fact Chloe doesn't real and even if she was she wouldn't like me
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>>152519485
Too real. iktfs
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>>152513785
>W stands for Warren
>Warren confirmed for the only death in the whole storm
>as Max and Chloe drive away, they pass a ginger bearded frenchman cradling the boy's body and sobbing softly
>the man goes on to create an episodic adventure game about his experience, making sure to give Warren all the unlikely chances he never had in real life
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>>152519242
Meh, I guess. Not really feeling much right now.
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>>152520410
Apathy is death
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>>152519242
Really frustrated at Unity, as usual. The only thing keeping me sane is this thread's comfy.
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>>152518519
>Dont kill us max!
>Dana: I guess I'll never dance again.

Yup, dont believe the spirit vision or anything. Was wrong about the twister and Rachels burial site, must be wrong about this too. Toplel.
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>>152519242
I'm pretty good. Hope you're doing well anon.
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You cute thing, what happened? :(
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>>152519273
"Oh max, what exactly was the point of saving me if you're gonna let me die?"
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>>152519273
"I was happy just being your friend. Why do you want all of your friends to die?"
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>>152521063
>>152521560
>>152521782
>using screenshots as arguments
>spirit vision
Oh, it's you again.

>2+2=5
>Nah, more reasonably it's 4
>Dude, read between the lines, do you even know how magic works

Do you listen to yourself? Max calls it a nightmare. The game calls it a nightmare. The game files call it a nightmare. The devs call it a nightmare. Max calls her visions visions. The game calls her visions visions. The game files call her visions visions. The devs call her visions visions.

And this doesn't change anything about the points I listed which you again do your best to ignore in favour of using unrelated dialogue and screenshots incoherently.

Max is afraid people will die in the tornado. Obviously she is concerned. And she blames herself for it ever since she realized it might be a result of her doing - her subconscious giving that feeling of guilt a visual correlative - you know, allegory, the very thing dreams are.

But ok, so your argument is that all those people die. Possibly. Possibly not. No effect on the narrative whatsoever; the choice in the end is made with the assumption that it doesn't matter who dies and who doesn't anyway. Because it is not a comparison. It's dedication.
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>>152521063
It was nothing more than the negative part of her brain trying to scare her into thinking she'd been doing everything wrong or that Chloe didn't love her/ wasn't worth it.
I won't believe it, and Max was also right to not believe it.
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>>152517808
>ike making a somewhat creepy and touched character like Samuel have scarves and shit in his closet
I'm 90% sure this was part of a plot point/reveal that they just dropped. Either that, or Samuel was implied to be a cross-dresser with a fake identity: at one point, there is a basket full of some of the weird stuff that Max identifies as not being fit for Samuel, and on the side the name 'Sanay(?)' is written
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>>152522953
>Maybe Samuel can be your girlfriend tonight....oh don't mind them, the squirrels like to watch.
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>>152522953
>Warren goes on a blind date with someone he met online
>Arrives at the spot
>His date is "Sanay"
>They have a lovely time
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I want to get OFF Samuel's wild Sanay!
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>>152522073
Doesnt really matter if you call it a nightmare or a spirit vision. Call it what you will. I noticed at the beginning there is a sarcastic amount of dead birds though- almost funny. Like "get it through your head and listen to me"

Welp, as long as Im pissing you off.

I kept finding references in the nightmare about how Max was a puppet, multiple lines about it. A puppet like Rachel. Rachel was muling drugs for Frank and probably got mixed up with Nathan as a result, which killed her. I keep wondering if it was Chloe that kept forcing her to mule drugs into Blackwell, since she was expelled.

The more I think about it, the more I realize that maybe Chloe planned to get Rachel Amber killed (or at least was simply using her to get out of Arcadia Bay- a common theme with Chloe- get out at all costs). She didnt know about Frank specifically was who Rachel was cheating with, but the crumpled note in the trashcan was probably enough to spark jealousy. Im not sure on the timeline though since none of the notes are dated, Ill have to look at the school/David records to find out more on this.
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>>152523524
The more I read your posts, the more I wonder what game you played.
These are Mari-tier theories.
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>>152522953
I'm 98% sure the box says 'Sammy's stuff' on the side.
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>>152523802
That would make sense, my computer is garbage so the resolution is pretty bad. The runway model magazines, colored glasses, etc still seem to imply something along the lines of him being a crossdresser though
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>>152523524
You are a special one.

At least you knew to take PNG screenshots, so you have that going for you.

I'm gonna leave you to "catalogue your thoughts" in peace. I wish you would do that elsewhere since some core assumptions of the interpretations of yours are so narrative-deaf and character-blind that I can't help but get pissed off, but as I told you before, there's also an interesting idea here or there among them.

And I truly do appreciate your curiosity. The new people we get here these days are not seldomly either just bland or do worse things than misinterpret the game. You seem interested in the game on a deeper level and willing to look into it. That on merit of its own is already better, so I think I don't actually want to drive you away.
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>>152523905
They probably dropped that plot line when they realised tumblr would tear them a new one for making the creepy janitor a trans woman.
Girldicks on qt grills only.
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>>152524287
I think that plotline could have been done in a decent way if you saw Samuel being shy and kind of quiet, but then ran into 'her' later and she was a lot more confident.
I probably would have gone "What the fuck?", but that's beside the point.

Still not as bad as this person currently trying to make Chloe look like some kind of Yandere or Max's hallucinations look like 100% fact.
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>>152525140
>Still not as bad as this person currently trying to make Chloe look like some kind of Yandere or Max's hallucinations look like 100% fact
"Remember my first rule of shitposting: always take the bait"
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who'd win in a fight:

Mr. Jefferson or Ellen Page from Hard Candy?
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>>152522953
I think they planned it from the beginning and wanted to catch a few dumb players to think he was the culprit. A passing glance and he is just a weirdo, but the more you talk to him, the more obvious it becomes what an introspective softy he is.

Any Samuel Fanart btw?

It says Sammy's btw. Also, the photoshots of Rachel are her in nature/the woods. He calls her a chamelion, a Prism. And to him, she of course was all about his nuts.
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>>152525872
In Michel's world Jefferson wins because he's a fighting master who can take down a trained soldier.
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>>152525894
also I always assumed Rachel was using him to mule the drugs in. And probably stole his heart.
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>>152525894
He's the janitor so maybe it's all just stuff he's found and collected. Maybe to try to find who it belongs to or maybe he gave asked Rachel if she wanted it for her modelling.
He is indeed kind of creepy, but I couldn't see him hurting anyone. I never thought he was a villain, but I did kind of expect him to be connected to Natives and stuff.
Samuel, and homeless woman, show that as weird as a place as Arcadia Bay is, it's still nice.
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>>152526443
Someone had a theory that there was a pagan group in the city, that actually wrapped up a lot of seemingly ignored plot points and other curious things. Rachel's blood oath with Frank, for one
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>>152526572

Because Kate is important and I am a cuck.
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>>152526572
Because we like to beat the horses into atoms.
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How do they expect to adapt LiS to a TV show anyways?
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>>152526572
Why would it not? We have almost daily /trek/ threads on /tv/ and that franchise is 50 years old, LiS was first released not even 2 years ago
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>>152526740
At least you're honest, Warryn.
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>>152527007
But Star Trek has hundreds of episodes, films, books, comics, and a new upcoming series. LiS is like 6 episodes of a game and maybe a miniseries.
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>>152526709
Rachel/Frank's Bloodoath has been something I've thought about more than a few times. If it was something related to the Native American stuff in the the area then I think it's what gave Rachel the ability to manifest as a spirit after death, as well as to bestow powers onto people and watch them.
I get that the powers were just to help the narrative driven by the characters, and to help Max gain more confidence in the end, but it would have been interesting to see some official explanation. But in the end it doesn't matter very much.
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>>152526572
Because people keep coming in to ask that question.
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>>152526709
where is the evidence for this blood oath?

Did I miss something?
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>>152527446
Max talks to Nathan in the Diner in Episode 3. Nathan talks about Frank taking a bloodoath for Rachel, but that's all that's said.
No specific about what it entailed or if it was connected to anything.
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>>152527446
When you are in the diner trying to steal Frank's keys, one of the dialog options with Nathan involves him letting out a secret about their blood oath. You can use this info on Frank IIRC
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>>152526937
Do you know the game "whispers down the lane"?

LiS draws major influences from popular and cult TV. It is inherently a cinematic experience, with a twist on it. Well, from my experience with "whispers down the lane", what starts as a "twist" on a word quickly turns into a completely different word. And so in what is essentially re-translating what has flown into LiS back into TV will probably be something very foreign to both the source material and the game.

That said, there's hope. They said that they want to use Blackwell and the larger Arcadia environment. Which probably means they will also try to get close to the cast. But if they just use that all for the atmosphere, the feeling and tone of it, the characters as stereotypes, and then develop something altogether (plot, character development, dynamics, relationships, story, even themes) different with it and just take it as a basis for a PNW mumblecore YA film, I can see it. ...But I assume they will definitely be using the time travel thing, and that already makes it a very tricky outlook.
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>>152527932
>Do you know the game "whispers down the lane"?
If I'm understanding you correctly, we call that game (at least in New England) 'Telephone'
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>>152527932
As long as the characters are cast well, the story makes sense, Pricefield is a thing, and Max and Chloe bother survive in the end, I will be happy with it.
Since DONTNOD has little to do with it, I think there's a lot of potential. No offense to them because they made a great game, but their storytelling skills are nowhere near as good as their ability to create settings/characters. But if you take the pieces and then put them in a good story it could be fantastic.
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>>152528201
Everybody, tell us how you call that game in your language!

Stille Post.

>>152528439
I'm hoping it won't feature "Max and Chloe", and won't altogether follow LiS too strictly. But obviously they must have a very specific reason to even get the rights to LiS for it to begin with. I hope that it will just serve as a sort of framework of concepts, stereotypes, themes, imagery, and so on, but be something very distinct especially in their characters and the plot. And that it will be based on a different premise of what growing up means, not something pivoting on the strange idea that there's "misery for misery's sake".
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I hope the TV series is just this but with Rachel Amber.
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>>152529247
I would like to see a focus on another character, but it Max and Chloe appear as side characters or even in the background, I won't have a problem.
Maybe it could even be post-storm and it's a new group of people discovering the secrets of Arcadia Bay and getting involved in their own mystery. Like the Prescotts are involved in something that gets uncovered.
But it's hard to say what I expect because right now we have no information and I'm trying to stop myself from getting my hopes up. I think it goes without saying we've been promised/ expected things in the past and have been let down.
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>>152529543
A Rachel prequel really is the lesser evil of what could happen if they were to stay close to the game, its cast and story.

>>152529960
I could see some post-storm mystery series work. But yeah, no expectations. First because we've been let down before, secondly because I feel like it is still a good two years away.

>>152529247
Just realizing that it's too late to expect much lingual diversity in here.

And time for me to sleep, too. Some oldschool Dementiaz.
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Why is Jefferson on the plane? Did they just copy his model or is this supposed to be indicative of the fact that you're in a time-stream pocket thing?
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>>152529543
Seeing Rachel would be neat. But it would also be hard to watch at some point because you know how much some people art hurting as well as because he story does not have a happy ending. But it could still be really good, and the final shot could be in Rachel's mind; her passing out, but having a vision, a hill by a lighthouse, a massive storm, and a girl with brown hair and a grey hoodie trekking her way up, and then things go white.
End it at the beginning if they're going for a prequel.
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>>152530425
Good night, Anon! I miss the Dementiaz art.

>>152530567
He shaved part of his beard and thought that would be a good enough disguise to fool the Police...it probably was.
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Bitches I *told* you LiS and Deus Ex take place in the same universe! It's not just me obsessing over birth dates!

aug Chloe when?
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>>152531598
Just be like those other anons and keep an eye out for any references in the new game.
I sure as hell don't know what Deus Ex is aside from some futuristic thing nearly everyone loves. Plus the few memes I've been seeing for years, Maybe I'll get around to it eventually.
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>>152530567
Probably reusing Jefferson's model due to budget constrains.
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Chloe is a romantic softy!
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>>152533238
Chloe is exactly what Max deserves. I want them to be happy forever. They need to have very gay cuddles
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>>152530567
I see Michel is in the row in front of Max. I hope Wells kicked his seat during the entire flight and I hope the plane hit turbulence and caused the stewardess to pour hot coffee onto Michel's lap.
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>>152533393
It makes me happy thinking of them getting over everything they've been through and finding the happiness they deserve.
Chloe acting like her father and taking inspiration from all the stuff William probably did for Joyce. Then doing it herself for Max.
Stuff like getting flowers for no specific reason, leaving cute messages/notes around the house or in packed lunches, dancing together in the house. Granted, things will never be 100% perfect because of their problems and experiences, but they will find joy in life.
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>The series is just a comfy Pricefield domestic romcom
Instant 10/10
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This is the only way.
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>>152473918
>>152474294
>>152475558
>all this wishful thinking
>implying anyone in that flimsy diner survived
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So pure... So innocent... So beautiful...
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>>152537254
How can you resist that?
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>>152514372
Have you ever even walked inside a diner before? It is nothing but a tube of aluminum and glass.

Taking shelter in the bathroom won't help you when the walls are less than a couple inches thick. The freezer, if big enough to hold anyone, would be like climbing into a metal box. You ever seen Crustal Skull? Physics doesn't work that way. You're going to be turned into paste once that thing gets air borne.

Cellar?
Diners do not have cellars, dude.

Dark Room? What is David going to do; drive through the storm through impassable roads in town, pile all of those people into his little truck and then make it all the way back to the Dark Room safely?

The people in the diner are fucking dead.
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>>152536504
Plenty of places to hide.
Cellar, freeze, bathroom, even behind the counter would shield them from flying debris.
Tornadoes really are inefficient at killing people when you consider the destruction.
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How did you guys cope with the ending?
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Huh. Apparently, if the game figures out that you're in love with Chloe, it won't even give you the option to kiss Warren at the end of the game. Neat.
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>>152537486
>What is David going to do; drive through the storm through impassable roads in town
Max managed to do it just fine.

This is Two Whales at the end of the game. The only damage appears to be some of the roof missing and the windows blown out. There's no scorch march from fire, no blown out walls from explosions. As for the freezer, I'm talking about a walk in one or a storage room. Honestly, any room without windows can be enough to save occupants.
If the people inside are dead then they should have shown it, because I do not care one bit what they "imply".
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>>152537848
But why not? He's gonna die either way because bae > bay, give him some good memories to die with

He doesn't deserve brokenhearted death, let him think he means something to Max
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>>152538012
It does still give you the option to hug him, and I take it every time because despite bae being more important than anything, the dude does deserve some credit.
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>>152537848
I played completely pro-Chloe and still got the option to kiss him, or at least I think it did, I can't remember.
I didn't though, just a hug.
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Night /lesg/
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>>152537921
>that guy on the ground
isn't that the dude who told us the stuff the papers said about the atmosphere was bollocks?
died in a storm next to the newspaper stand
poetic justice
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>>152537921
>If the people inside are dead then they should have shown it
They didn't have enough budget, but it's clear they intended that the Choose Chloe ending meant sacrificing everyone else and the town.

They were just really shitty trying to portray it. With a storm the size as the one in the game, there would be literally nothing left.

They should have had a meteorologist on the staff.
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>>152537576
read the thread, look at all these people that couldn't handle it and are trying to deny that the people of Arcadia Bay are dead in the save Chloe ending, despite every narrative in the game telling you otherwise.

Im willing to wager 100 4chan-bux that there are at least a few people here that have convinced themselves that no one dies at all and the guy in the street is just sleeping. And that the town is lifeless and no one is around because they had a long night and also went to sleep somewhere out of sight. They dont need to dig through the wreckage because no one died, of course.
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>>152539184
Well they didn't and damage from the tornado, compared to real life events, shows that it was not nearly as bad an EF 5.

>choose Chloe ending meant sacrificing everyone else and the town.
>>152522073 is right with their final point in the post. " it is not a comparison. It's dedication."
You don't know who lived or died because they were not Max's priority. Chloe was her priority and the one she was tending to at that time. They will find out/ see the storm's true aftermath at a later point. But Dontnod said for the players to determine that for themselves.
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I'm kinda drunk right now - and I'm playing the game again. The game is asking me to choose between Chloe and the Bay. I have to choose Chloe. I know that 'technically' the moral weight of all of arcadia bay outweighs her value as an individual, but I can't help but feel personal responsibility - as Max I left Chloe when we were young, and I think that abandoning her is responsible for Chloe's fucked up life path so far, which means that it's my fault she died in that bathroom at Blackwell. She deserves a real chance at life. The body count might be on my hands, but at least she gets a shot, right?
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>>152539464
I don't understand this. Is it just guilt? Are they in the Denial stage of grief over the ending?

The choice is clear cut; prioritize Chloe over the lives of everyone else. It's not really fair to have the choice be between, 'this character you love' and 'everyone in town, except the people you like, so only randoms die'.

The other thing is Max just condemned everyone to die just for Chloe.

How will she even live with that guilt? Choe is already self-destructive, but now she has her mother, Rachel and everyone's blood in town on her hands. Same with Max. Even if they were together, I don't think any relationship could stand up under that type of burden. And it only makes sense to save Chloe if you're actually romancing her.

Are all lesbians murderers?
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>>152539538
Max has no bodycount on her hands from the storm. Even if she (unintentionally) created it with her power, it's just a storm.
People have the ability to run or hide and while people died, most of the town likely survived. Besides, if Max gives up Chloe then what comes next? What if some other disaster appears? Is Max supposed to give up her mother, her father?
What if another tornado comes along in the future and it has nothing to do with Max or her power? No stopping that.
Max has no reason to take the blame, or the hit, for what happens to Arcadia Bay. You can pick Bae > Bay with a clear conscience.
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>>152531598
>that pic
awwww fuck yeeeeahhh!!! 1 day and 11 hours to go to see the references BABY!!!

https://twitter.com/deusex/status/632220068928188417
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>>152539806
All I know is that Chloe deserves to live. No matter what. She's to special to die. The world is full of boring, normal, jaded adults. But someone like Chloe, so full of life, still so rough around the edges, so rebellious and untainted....


deserves to live. She's too pure for this world.
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>>152531598
>>aug Chloe when?
NOW! Chloe is now even more badass and death proof!
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>>152540320
Can you imagine? Max would stay unaugmented, because she thinks there's a purity to it, but Chloe would turn herself into a multi-skilled, immortal post-human just so that she could protect Max and ensure that she has a perfect life. Unatco and the Task force would try tearing them apart when the Aug Segregation act went into effect but they'd get smacked the fuck down by CyberChloe
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>>152533393
imo what you people fail to understand is their relationship isn't sexual oriented at all.

It really is purest love. They just really fucking love each other.
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>>152537848
how do you achieve that?
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>>152540558
> imo what you people fail to understand is their relationship isn't sexual oriented at all.

Kind of like Elsanna. They can be sexual, when they want to. But the true love, giving themselves entirely to the other's well being is way, WAY more important than the sexual component.

It's true love, is what it is.
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>>152539538
That's right anon. I think that way too. Chloe deserves a shot at life and she deserves to be happy.
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>>152540670
I did *every* pro-Chloe action except for taking Kate's call at the diner. I even let Chloe take the handicapped fund money, rationalizing it away as "Blackwell is corrupt,they'll probably spend it on something else". I was lucky that I got to save Kate at all, but I made it happen because she's a precious cinnamon bun who deserves to live.
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>>152539806
>Max has no bodycount on her hands from the storm. Even if she (unintentionally) created it with her power, it's just a storm.
>Officer, I know I set the building on fire, but I didn't kill anyone.
>The fire did.
>They could have ran out.
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Power went out again.
How uncomfy.
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>>152541041
What an awful comparison.
Max is innocent of hurting anyone. She never asked for any power or to make a storm. But it happened and so it was fate.
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>>152541272
Max is very cute. Look at how she looks at Chloe. You can feel her beaming love to everyone.
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>>152541272
Max was given a choice.

By using her powers, she creates the storm.

She can choose not too, and let Chloe die as Fate intended, or prevent that and sacrifice everyone else.
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>>152541425
Fate is cruel. It deserves to be spat in the face. Fate wants Chloe to die for no reason - this is proven in the timeline where William lives. Chloe dies from respiratory failure despite having a good life. Fuck fate. Max's goal can and should be to tell Fate to leave Chloe the fuck alone.
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>>152541573
That's my point. She saved Chloe without trying to. She never said "let me just get superpowers to save this girl" it happened without any effort. That is fate.
Max getting those powers and saving Chloe is her fate. Chloe was not meant to die, she waa meant to live and reunite with Max.
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>>152541573
Chloe is destined to die as the timeline with William shows.

You just said that it was fate she got her powers to save Chloe, but when fate says Chloe has to die, you ignore it? It sounds like you don't have a problem with fate, just when it doesn't give you what you want.

Max's goal is up to the player and if she has any goal in the game, it was to prevent the storm and save the town, both her and Chloe spend most of the game trying to accomplish that.

Sacrificing a town of people for one person isn't noble, it's selfish. Sacrificing one person for the better of many isn't noble either, but it's the choice of least suffering. Even Chloe admits this when she literally pleads to Max not to let her mother die.

>>152541780
Chloe is destined to die no matter what. The William timeline shows that. Through the game, Chloe can die a multiple of ways and is only safe because of Max's powers. If the deaths in Arcadia Bay didn't set things right, which it probably didn't since the storm is going to happen in the William timeline anyway, then it's only a matter of time before Chloe gets struck by heightening or ran over by a car when Max isn't around to stop it.
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>>152533238
I can totally picture Chloe going to buy flowers for Max and not knowing what to do.

>Walks in to the flower shop
>Tries to look confident and like she isn't extremely out of her element, but ends up just looking weird like she's on drugs or something
>"Can I help you, ma'am?"
>"Yeah, uh, I need some flowers. Stat."
>"Are we looking for something romantic like roses, or sunflowers for a friend, or..."
>"I don't know, just give me some flowers. Something all lovey dovey and shit. For someone special."
>The guy at the counter ends up just finding some simple but nice looking roses, she pays for them and is on her way
>Mumbles to herself "The things I do for you, Caulfield..."
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>>152542049
If Chloe was destined to die then it would have happened. Max would not have gotten the chance to stop it. But she did have a way to stop it so she took it
Simple as that.
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>>152542049
>You just said that it was fate she got her powers to save Chloe

I never said that. I don't know what gave Max her powers. It could have been spite or tenacity, not fate.
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>>152542259
Likely not either since she was never meant to use her powers in the first place.

Chloe living was an accident and the storm is the result of that.

Chloe has to die.

>>152542235
She took it and a town of people were murdered.
She'll have to live with that guilt.
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>>152540868
that's crazy

i-i want true unquestioned love with chloe too...
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>>152542471
One day we'll have the kind of AI and VR to make Chloe real...
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>>152542174
Cute! I could see her talking with Joyce and sheepishly asking "what did dad used to do for you?"
Then her and Joyce have a long talk about William, laughing, crying, and just generally bonding. At the end Chloe thanks her mom for the ideas and as she goes to leave, Joyce asks her to let her know how whatever plan she has goes and how Max reacts. Chloe just nods her head and leaves with a smile she hasn't worn in a while.
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>>152504487
say that to my fucking face not online and see what happens.
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>>152542471
I would say there is no question they are in love, regardless of what ending you choose or what choices you make.
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>>152542343
> entire town
>murdered
Stop being a drama queen and look up what the term murder actually means.
You're in the wrong place to try that way of thinking. People here are too smart for it. Max is no murderer and she did nothing wrong by refusing to kill someone she loves on the chance it -may- fix something. Again, what happens if another storm comes along in the future and hits Arcadia Bay?
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>>152542764
It's a beautiful thing what exists between them. I really adore it...
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>>152539740
>>152539740
I had to turn to the symbolism and deeper hints about Chloe's past. Ive managed to make sense of the game in a fun way. There are certainly answers for those who want to see them.

/lisg/ hates that though because they would rather pretend the story is shit and that the entire 5th chapter plus the BLATANT symbolism plastered all over the game is meaningless/ rewrite hell. Even though they clearly planned the whole thing from chapter 1.
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>>152542896
Fuck off Mari.
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>>152540165
>Oh, Max, you poor thing.
>I understand how tempting a personality like Chloe can be to a naive girl like you, but you have to understand something.
>Chloe Price was nothing special.
>When I was in LA, I was surrounded by Chloe Prices. It's lousy with them, like clones churned out of a meat factory
>They're a dime a dozen where I come from, flooding the streets, begging on the sidewalk, desperately trying to get that one acting gig that will break them into the big time.
>With their daddy issues and their claims of independence while they act and dress like everyone else.
>Every time they let a producer or ad executive feel them up, they think that it's finally their chance at the big time.
>I've taken pictures of thousands of girls just like Chloe and none of them were special, from their electric-blue, store bought dye job to their punk boots they bought at a retro store along with everything else they own.
>Those girls all end up in the same place.
>Either going home to mommy and daddy in defeat and shame or in an alley with a needle in their arm or a gun in their mouth.
>LA would have ground Chloe into a bloody paste beneath it's stiletto high heel and not even bother to yank her off the spike.
>That's why I had to kill her, to protect you.
>To protect that wonderful innocence you have.
>That's what makes you the special one, Max.
>Now...smile for me again.
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>>152542836
What happens if another storm comes along wherever Chloe goes?
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>>152543160
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>>152543160
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>>152543160
>Implying anyone is truly unique
ell oh ell.
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>>152543362
Why would it? If it does then they warn as many people as they can.
If the price of Chloe's life was Arcadia Bay then why would there be more disasters when the price has already been paid?
By that point it's just the universe tormenting Max and even if she let Chloe die it would probably continue. Keep in mind that Max used her power before saving Chloe so if the storm is because of using her power at all then there is nothing she can do to fix it.
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If the storm happens because Max saved Chloe, why did she have a vision about it before she saved her? Or was there a timeline that was altered before the start of the game?
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>>152544049
Shitty pacing and lack of continuity.
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>>152543026
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>>152544049
Because the storm was always coming and Max got a vision so she would know what to expect and where she and Chloe would be safe
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>>152543707
>why would it
>keeping the stormbringer alive
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>>152544489
>>152544049
would have made much more sense that all of this was happening at the same time, not that just Max using the powers or whatever lebringing le tornado or whatever. This way she had the power to warn and help everyone she could within a week.
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>>152544603
You have gone from Max to blaming Chloe. Make up your mind.
Your ideas make no sense, have made no sense in this thread, or in any of the previous. You are either missing many points of the game and characters, incapable of seeing how not every sigle thnig said is true or fact in the game, or are intentionally shit stirring.
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since I'm new I decided to go back and watch the rollercoaster of emotions when ep 5 was JUST coming out

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/119512383/#119525538

this is highly amusing
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>>152545330
I was in that thread. Stayed up until 2am after a week and a half of those shitty teasers only to get the first taste of Episode 5's disappointment with that line where Max said everything was her fault.
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Well, I did it again. RIP Arcadia Gay. Sacrificed for the blue bae
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>>152545590
You replayed Episode 5?
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>>152545590
There is no other option.
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>>152545742
I replayed the entire game. I know /lesgen/ hates ep5 because of how polarizing it was, but I sill enjoyed it. Although the main reason I re-played it was so that I could save kate
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This is EXACTLY how I see Max trying to act tough

>>>/wsg/1257026
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>>152545590
>The way she smiles at max
muh fuckin heart
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>>152545238
Im a different person
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Reminder that if the game has caused any sort of trauma to you that we are here to help and if you need more severe help and if you need to talk to someone then you can visit

www.lifeisstrange.com/talk

Good luck to you and we are always here if you need us. There is no shame in admitting your pain, remember Kate having someone to talk to saved her life too.
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>>152545590
Do you feel like a hero yet?
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>>152546626
I cried the whole time I watched the tornado tear through the town but yeah... I saved Chloe. I did it. I'm an hero.
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>>152546726
>I'm an hero.
a real human bean you might say
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>>152546640
Holy shit.
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I don't even care what the circumstances are, for me there was no other option than to save Chloe.

IF the moral of the story is that saving Chloe's life caused the tornado, and that allowing her to die will prevent it from happening, and IF the game is suggesting that saving Arcadia Bay should be the #1 priority...there was really no point in playing the game at all. You are literally forced to save Chloe over and over in order to continue only to be told in the end that it was for nothing, and that you should not have done it in the first place.

In my opinion, it always was what was right. I believed it was the right thing to in the bathroom at Blackwell before we knew who Chloe was. And it is the right thing to do when it comes down to Chloe or the Bay up there at the lighthouse. Max made the choice to save her in the beginning, and she should stand by it. She owes it to Chloe after she bolted to Seattle and left her there to suffer alone for 5 years.

Maybe, in the end, it IS all Max's fault from whatever angle you look at it. If she didn't desert Chloe, chances are Chloe would never have ended up in the girl's room with Nathan trying to get cash to pay off her car and drug debt, and would not have died in the first place. No, it isn't fair to the people of Arcadia Bay to pay the price for Max's mistakes, but she doesn't owe Arcadia Bay anything. She does, however, owe Chloe the chance to live a happy life.

If that means Max will have to live with the blood of Arcadia Bay on her hands for the rest of her life, she also owes it to Chloe to carry that burden for her.
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>>152546813
You want to see more of this Kate Chase cosplay?
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>>152546887
>You are literally forced to save Chloe over and over in order to continue only to be told in the end that it was for nothing, and that you should not have done it in the first place.

Literally what the devs intended.
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>>152546931
Y-yes, please.
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>>152547148
I have three more!
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>>152545330
If you ever stray away from being mad at dontnod, visit those 5-10 post-Episode 5 threads. And summon a storm within you all over again.
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>>152547067
They do give you one final decision, which you can use to spite them in the end. Do it, you know you want to.
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>>152547226
Yeah I realised that as I was reading through, i was getting the rush of emotions of sadness, disappointment and anger. kek

dontnod dropped the ball.

le moral of the story bros haha! is french make good story haha
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>>152547189
>>152547320
Thank you very much! She is beautiful.
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>>152547426
Sorry, I can't live knowing that Max will be responsible for the deaths of all those people.

Besides, I didn't even like Chloe that much anyway. After she stuck that gun in Max's face as a joke, she was on my shit list.
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>>152547453
You're welcome friend. Have some Max too. This is probably the most accurate cosplay of hers that I've ever seen.
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>tfw Anzu could have cosplayed Max really well but she didn't even bother with anything, just put on some freckles and took one picture and never went back
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Holy shit, Warryn is creepy
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>>152547990
is this in the game?
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>>152547990
>blaming Warren for something Max imagined in a nightmare
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>>152546640
>>152546931
>Kate Chase
Is Kate Victoria's wife?
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>>152548281
Yes, but as >>152548390 said, it's a product of Max's imagination. Warren is pretty cool IMO, but it's clear Max has been a bit intimidated by him.
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>>152547574
Either way you look at it, Max fucked up. Maybe you don't personally like Chloe, but they were everything to each other, and Max more or less threw her to the wayside and forgot about her completely. If she hadn't done that, it is arguable that none of these things would have happened in the first place. Chloe probably would have not fallen into depression and drugs. She probably would have never met Rachel, and just maybe Rachel never would have ended up dead, thus Max never would have gotten the power to rewind in the first place.

Considering her powers, Max will be responsible for the death of many people in her lifetime...or at least responsible for allowing them to die. If you have the power to rewind like she does, you may as well be God, even if fate has the final say in the end.
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>>152548540
I have a hard time thinking that Max sticking around would have done much good. It's clear Chloe became very self destructive after her father died and it's just as likely that Chloe would have pushed Max away even while she was trying to be supportive of her.

Even if Max had stayed, there's no way to tell what could have happened. Chloe's dad living had such a dramatic effect, who's to say what would have taken place if Max had never left Arcadia Bay or had stayed in contact.
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>>152548793
But Max loves her so much, there's no way Max wouldn't have healed Chloe if she'd stuck around. They're the pirates of arcadia bay ffs
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>>152548454
It's Victoriafied Kate
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can anyone find the animation of this?
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>>152549583
Looks like Freddie Mercury from a distance.
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>>152549769
I don't see it
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>>152548793
It sure as hell would have helped, though. We can't say for certain how much, but when you take in to consideration what Chloe was going through at the time, this would have been an almost unimaginable turn of events.

And I don't think it is fair to say that Chloe would have pushed her away, either. Immediately after Max left for Seattle, Chloe latched on to Rachel and I think it's pretty obvious that the reason it happened so quickly was because there was a massive void left behind by Max. Sure, Rachel was much, much more than just a "replacement Max", but it seems fairly clear why Chloe so quickly built her world around her. She needed someone to be there for, someone to live for.

Just look around Chloe's room...pictures and mementos of Max all over. Old drawings they made, BOXES of photos of the two together, and they weren't stowed away in a closet somewhere. They were out in the open, daily reminders of the time they spent together. She clearly did not go a single day without thinking of Max and how much she meant to her. But Max? Max didn't have so much as a photo of Chloe in her room. For fuck's sake, she didn't even recognize who she was when she saved her in the bathroom. Max was wrong that, even if she was just a kid when it happened and had no ill intentions.
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>>152547990
I felt like this locker was mostly pointless though. We already knew he was obsessed. He shows up wasted at the vortex party drinking over max presumably...

Actually, if you go Warren hard and snub Chloe daily, is he still drunk at the end? And if so, over fucking what.
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In case anyone was wondering what Nathan's sister looked like

Here's Kristine Prescott
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>>152469790
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't doe,or butterfly,bluejay or even shit.
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it.
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget
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>>152553497
qt
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>>152549976
Max did think of Chloe. She writes in her journal about it. She has a picture of Chloe and her together in her dorm room drawer.

And are you seriously saying Max deserves what happens to her in that week because she moved away with her parents when she was 13 and was too scared and anxious to contact Chloe? Yes, it was "wrong". But something terrible happened and they were both way too young to handle it. Plus, childhood friends do drift apart. And with these circumstances, it is completely understandable - between William dying and Max moving, Chloe would be too hurt to contact Max; would first think of it as abandonment and then that Max must have forgotten about her, that she probably never mattered so much to Max anyway. Max on the other hand also having to deal with the pain of William dying, which we know was close to her too. Not knowing how to deal with both that and Chloe in it. Scared to contact Chloe because she would also be feeling like she abandoned her, thinking that Chloe must hate her now. This anxiety only growing with time and distance, their minds automatically trying to block it out to avoid the associated feelings. But also always drifting to the other sooner or later, never forgetting. Their growth stagnating without each other, putting on layers to hide away in and protect themselves with instead - layers that they peel away at in reuniting, growth they start to rapidly, wonderfully catch up on in catching up with each other.

You can blame Blackwell Max for not contacting Chloe in that month, but that obviously still doesn't at all mean Max is to blame for Chloe's problems and deserves the shit coming her way.

For whatever reason, Max has these powers. And she puts them to best use - the use her heart dictates. That's all she can be blamed for, anyone ever could be. And you take that blame if you are your own person.
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>>152553827
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.

This triggers me. I know its all simpleminded bait but. Whole game teaches you not to listen to scientists/ science doesnt have the answers etc. Anything Warren says is wrong other than "I dont know"
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>>152555534
it's not bait.
it's compilation of our thoughts of episode 5 before/after its release.
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If, hypothetically, Chloe were to be sacrificed, how would Max actually live her life?

I could imagine her sitting the junkyard everyday after school, photo in hand, contemplating rewinding once again.
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>>152554745
in reality she was recording it
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does anyone have the gif of the ep 5 prediction with the missing poster? I find that haunting
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>>152556814
I'd rather Max not live in a world without Chloe, realistically it would be too much pain so yeah it might really be better for her to end it.
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>>152557226
what's wrong with newfriends?
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>>152556814
I must admit, I do like reading post-bay fanfiction, if only to see how affected Max would be.
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>>152545536
Ouch.
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Did the game mean much more than just a game to any of you? This thing hurt me like a motherfucker with so many of my emotional wounds opening up throughout the whole game. so many painful memories of all sorts of shit I had to deal with through my life

the fact that the endings are so shit makes me feel so much more incredibly powerless in my life like there really is no hope at all for anything.
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>>152552382
>>152552502
Is she related to Dana?
>>152557747
I really thought it was going to be something once-in-a-lifetime, but then ep5 happened.
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>>152557820
>I really thought it was going to be something once-in-a-lifetime, but then ep5 happened.
why did they go for cliches when they could have had ultimate perfection?

why does nobody shoot for perfection?
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This game sure changed a lot during the development.
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>>152536052
STOP
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>>152542896
>There are certainly answers for those who want to see them.
=kek. so you solved everything with that pic which's we had been talking about it how it doesn't make sense by giving evidences since Episode 5's release?

>/lisg/ hates that though because they would rather pretend the story is shit and that the entire 5th chapter plus the BLATANT symbolism plastered all over the game is meaningless/ rewrite hell. Even though they clearly planned the whole thing from chapter 1.

yeah. ''NOTHING WAS CUT :^)'' right?
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>>152558520
not him but some parts of episode 5 were really nice but it was a painful and mean emotional rollercoaster with lots of feeling of false hope given to be snatched away hard
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>>152558950
>some parts of episode 5
>were really nice
>emotional rollercoaster
>episode 5
>emotional rollercoaster
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>>152559064
When they fool you and think everything has finally gone alright and you're in the plane and then Zeitgeist museum stuff. That was so mean to take it away from us.
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>>152558926
>''NOTHING WAS CUT :^)''

haha
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>>152559220
whats this?

also don't save kinda file as a jpg it's unnecessarily big, make it a png
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>>152559416
There was a lot of cut content in the game files that got cleaned up when dontnod released the collectors edition patch (or maybe it was the jpn patch). Most of it had the audio recorded too, which anons here found.
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>>152559416
>jpg is unnecessarily big

Do you live in sub-saharan Africa?
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>>152559416
>what's this

nathan's knowledge about storm visions (they only deleted it after episode 5's update)
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>still can't listen to the soundtrack without tearing up
the pain never ends
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>>152542896
>thinks butterfly is directly chloe and it doesn't metaphor of dontnod's non-sense butterfly effect/summoner of game's events: storm-max's powers-chloe
>talks about BLATANT symbolism (like there's anything deep about the story other than spiritual doe Rachel and summoner of game's events butterfly) but doesn't mention Rachel's role in game
>giving non-sense examples to defend the idea that it's written like this from ep1 by giving example of game's major symbol blue butterfly (like everybody here hating episode 5 because of the reasons that he gave)
>interpret the story in his way so he tries to imply that save Chloe ending's unreasonable by giving these dialogues since it doesn't serve his purpose

>There are certainly answers for those who want to see them.

and it all depends on how you look at it.
by following events in game or by adding non-sense things from your delusional headcanon
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>>152559641
It's just a lot of unnecessary space on my pc

>>152562539
>that pic
mfw listening to pure jazz radio
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>>152563042
We all left temporarily... a la during the release of Episode 4 and Episode 5.
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>>152563042
we come here from time to time
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Post cute Alice!
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>>152563042
we're still comfy posting and discussing the game whats wrong with that ?
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>>152563316
I would much rather post cute Kate but if you wish
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>>152563316
Kate posting is the best posting
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I find this picture really unfitting of Chloe, I know she smokes weed but this doesn't seem like her.
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>>152564612
I meant that if she was alive and held captive
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>>152565195
yeah that's me but I only meant it as Rachel being held captive the whole time it would make more sense why nathan would scribble "rachel in the dark room" rather than rachel dead or whatever.
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>>152565293
wait sorry I was distracted when finishing that sentence. It would have made more sense when he wrote "rachel in the dark room" because he should have been writing "rachel dead" or something like that instead.
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http://pyx-1.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/game.jsp#game=22
>password: lis
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Victoria smells
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>>152480715
>criis-chan
Yah, sure, but I'm limited to ~800 pics because I don't use twitter's api yet. Will post if there's anything lis related.
>@criischan as signature
>username on twitter iis Cruuuuuuus
What.
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>>152566992
great
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>tfw we're going to see something like this in deus ex confirming bae ending and max+chloe's eternal love
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>>152567463
MAKE THIS HAPPEN
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chloe is magic
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>>152539464
>despite every narrative in the game telling you otherwise.

game's director said that it's up to player's imagination.

>Im willing to wager 100 4chan-bux that there are at least a few people here that have convinced themselves that no one dies at all and the guy in the street is just sleeping.

nice try.

but nobody here was saying 'nobody ded' or denying the few corpses on the road.
we're saying it's pretty retarded to think WHOLE TOWN DED by the tornado which they've presented in game and no you can't pretend by saying ''muh of course they couldn't show it because budget issues''
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>>152570119
this.

it was an EF6 tornado tho
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>>152559124
Yeah that was the best timeline up to that point
>Max and Chloe still become best friends again
>Jefferson and Nathan carted off before they can do further damage
>Kate is happy again and doesn't attempt suicide
>David's success makes him rethink his life and reconcile with Chloe
>Max isn't in any amount of trouble
>Chloe is informed of Rachel's death and comes to terms with it
Max had her journal with her in the gallery. It would have made much more sense to simply photo-focus back to the 'little pieces of time' selfie AGAIN and re-do everything the same way but refuse to attend the San Francisco reception so she can try to deal with the storm. It's not like they can force her to go on a free trip.
Of course, Michel's meme-ending renders it all irrelevant because both choices would destroy all the good things that happened in the timeline.
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>>152572116
>'little pieces of time' selfie
which was that?

I totally agree with you. they dropped the fuckin ball on that one. the game could have been perfect. it was so near perfection.
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I saw a red haired Chloe today
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>>152572249
And now it seems their daughter has entered our world. She must have a purpose here, I wonder what it is.
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>>152570696
>ef6 magical tornado (which doesn't actually exist in real life)
>is defined as the most powerful tornado since it's magical (more than EF5 tornado etc.)
>tfw it could only give EF2 tornado damage
>tfw even animals (non-sea) managed to survive but some ppl couldn't

Life is Strange in Michel's universe
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>>152572249
What does хлopкa mean?
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>>152572224
>which was that?
The original selfie you use to go back to Jefferson's class. I just called it that for lack of better name because he's giving a lecture like
>Alfred Hitchcock once called film 'little pieces of time'...
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>>152572661
I thought she might use the photo in jefferson's class or the selfie she took in chloe's room or any of those other selfies but she only goes back to a few of the photos sadly
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>>152572249
If blue haired Chloe summoned a tornado, what natural disaster would a red haired one bring?
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>>152572508
kkek
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>Max saving Chloe caused the storm
>Her using that power was selfish and she never should have done it because it was defying fate
>Even though she never asked for any power and thus her getting it in that moment was fate
>She got that power for a reason but then that reason was to never use it
>She should have destroyed her own life and chance at happiness to save others from something occurs naturally and could come again at any time in the future
Sorry, I'm not an Olympian. Not going to try to compete in the mental gymnastics.
Unless there's a part of the event that involves Polaroid ripping.
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I want to hold Kate's hand
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>>152573532
Way too lewd for me.
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>>152469790
>daily reminder that it's confirmed that the blue butterfly is storm summoner (the harbinger of disaster) This means, it became clear that storm's still coming in Bay ending
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>>152573558
>>152573821
>>152573997

b-but :(
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>>152573402
If ur dad Michel summoned a tornado, what natural disaster would shit-eaters like you bring?
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I want to give Max and Chloe some extra money so they can enjoy some burgers and shakes together.
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>>152574227
>what natural disaster would shit-eaters like you bring?

shit storm. duh
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>>152574212
We've already discussed and confirmed how she doesn't like you Warren!
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When are we gonna have another /lisg/ sings?
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>>152574525
Imagine when she finds out her video was still on his flash drive along with his cannibal movies.

>or pic related
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>>152574723
=kek
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>>152574723
>d-does he please himself while watching me?
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>>152575005
wrong picture? she'd be more like this
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>>152574723
wat lmao
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>>152574723
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>>152573456
>Unless there's a part of the event that involves Polaroid ripping.
Yeah, what's up with that? Are polaroids in France made of a different material? In the US they are more or less impossible to rip in half but Max does it with ease
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>>152575836
It was a fake.
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Some nice breakfast before Max goes to school and Chloe leaves for work at the Diner.
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>>152575871
Do not doubt the power of SuperMax
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>>152554881
Okay, so maybe the picture part was a bit of an exaggeration, but I think that further proves my point in a way. Max did have a photo but it was just thrown in a drawer somewhere, not a constant reminder. And she only mentioned Chloe in her journal after moving back to Arcadia Bay, which is logical. I would hope moving back to her hometown would trigger thoughts about her former best friend.

And no, I am not saying Max deserves any of it. No one deserves to have to make such an impossible decision, and especially not Max. But too scared? Too anxious? In the end, those are just excuses. She was a kid and meant no harm, but a mistake is a mistake. Her mistake caused, or at the very least intensified, a huge amount of emotional trauma for Chloe. If Max would have called and Chloe flipped out or accused Max of abandoning her... that would have been on Chloe. Saying nothing at all? That's on Max.

It would all be a lot more clear if we knew where, or why Max received her powers in the first place. From what the game tells us, it was given to her for the purpose of saving Chloe's life. But why is that? Did Rachel, in death, give Max the power to protect Chloe? Was it God? Totally random? Does anyone else have similar powers in the universe? I don't know. We probably will never know. However, all signs point to the fact that whoever (or whatever) bestowed that "gift" onto Max did it because Chloe needed someone to rescue her at whatever cost.

Does Max deserve to be responsible for that because of something stupid she did when she was a kid? No. But maybe, just maybe, the universe, or Rachel, or whoever/whatever placed that responsibility on Max did it because she is the person who owes Chloe the most.
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>>152575836
Max is hella strong.
Ripping Polaroids and dead lifting a wooden board from one end. She probably could have been useful in helping rescue people in AB. Then again her father is quite possibly an actual lumberjack so I guess it runs in the family.
Chloe's no slouch either. She carried/dragged Max uphill for some some not insignificant amount of time. That's probably the better part of a 100lbs.
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>>152576193
The trail-head at the beach advertises the walk to the lighthouse as '15 minutes' but it goes up a giant, nearly vertical cliff face. Chloe must be on roids
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>>152572413
She was the fakey red you see, like Chloe's blue.

Though I do know someone else who looks a little like that.

>>152572561
I think it was mentioned in the last thread.

>>152573402
Supervolcano?
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>>152573402
>>152575981
>>152576697

Are you a special snowflake?
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>>152576896
I don't understand you post.
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>>152469790
>friendly reminder that turning off your game at the decision screen is confirmed canon ending
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>>152576621
The only performance-enhancing drug she is on is love.
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>>152576971
Yeah sure
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>>152576621
How do you think she has the 6 pack abs?
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>>152577160
Exactly. Max cannot be blamed for any thing with the storm because apparently the powers she has are self aware to some extent and only making certain changes can result in stuff like a storm.
So Max's only option is to use her powers more, learn how they work, and to master them to serve her. Become Goddess of Time and Cute.
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>>152575836
The devs just said they did it that way because they needed to kek. they said pretend it was a bad polaroid like an old one or whatever
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Redpill me on the theoretical location of Arcadia Bay, /lisg/
I've seen some stuff here before involving coordinates and photos, but personally based on the visual surroundings, some labeled maps in the game, and Warren's claim that you are '60 miles from Newberg', the area south of Cape Meares Lighthouse seems most fitting to me:
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4755245,-123.9733395,3722m/data=!3m1!1e3
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>>152578498
>Redpill me
/pol/ pls


Arcadia Bay is based off Tillamook Bay and the surrounding area (not sure if there is a lighthouse though). There was an anon travelling there a few weeks back but s/he stopped posting photos :(
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>>152578221
Coming from the same people that had:
-An FBI investigation end, without looking in a place the missing frequently went (Or without speaking to people she associated/ was seen with).
-Based their whole dilemma on their own definition of the Butterfly Effect (After they already showed the correct one).
-Fire Sprinkler systems that required electricity to work.
-A small bullet, fired from a relatively weak revolved, bounce directly back towards the shooter with the force of a .50BMG
-Changed the laws of Chemistry.
-Had TWO moons, but no massive tidal disturbances that would have killed millions more than the storm.

I cannot say I am surprised that they would mess up a minor detail like how hard it is to rip a polaroid.
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>>152578498
Good find though by the way. It's possible that it was based off more than one location.
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>>152578753
>>-Had TWO moons, but no massive tidal disturbances that would have killed millions more than the storm.
didn't you pay attention? there weren't two moons, it was an illusion
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>>152579032
>>152578753
>two moons
Max rewinding time caused local changes to the Earth's gravity.
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>>152578498
I remember someone typing in GPS coordinates or something and they were off the coast in the ocean.
But >>152578715 is right on what Arcadia Bay is based on. Even though that area in real life seems to be pretty successful and not in the decline we see Arcadia Bay in.
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>>152578715
>>152578498
do these places get tornados?
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>>152579142
Rarely, though of course this one is a magic one.
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>>152579128
In the game the 2nd moon vanishes, it was one of those cool illusions that can happen in the sky.
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>>152579032
I'll give them that one. But the Eclipse, and dying animals, were certainly no illusion. That was implying that Max's power was messing with more than just reversing time. And that makes no sense.
That's some weather and ecosystem change that is related to something going very wrong.
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>>152579517
>that makes no sense
I dunno I thought that was cool anyway. everything was all topsy turvy and cool. The storm was shit though. fuck that. fuck max not telling anyone.
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>>152579710
>Washington
This confused me, isn't washington in the east?
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>>152579851
ohhh ok. Now finally I'm no longer confused cause I was hearing about Washington being on the border with Canada or whatever and I was confused before kek thanks.

>>152579959
why would anyone live in tornado heavy areas?

>Oddly enough, 3/4 of the tornadoes experienced by Tillamook County were in the same week in 1997.

Max?
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>>152579657
Even though it was never said (Which is entirely stupid), it seems to me that Max truly believed the storm was either not going to come or that it could be stopped by finding Rachel/solving a mystery.
If Max truly believed it was a storm coming that could not be stopped then she would have warned people. But that's the beauty of Max's ability: She can go back and do that. The game just decided to never show it because it wouldn't have been the sad ending they wanted. But that is likely the thing Max would do within a few days, so that even if a lot of people don't listen to her, she and Chloe can at least say they tried everything they could.
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>>152580217
God itll never stop frustrating me.
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>>152578820
>>152578715
Zooming out, Tillamook Bay (with that city there, Garibaldi) is literally right behind the Cape Meares lighthouse area. Arcadia Bay almost seems to be an amalgamation of that general space
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>>152579959
>Oddly enough, 3/4 of the tornadoes experienced by Tillamook County were in the same week in 1997
prequel confirmed
>tfw one tornado wasn't enough to satisfy Michel's thirst for tragedy
>season 2 will have three tornadoes in one week, caused by three equally lovable lesbian couples
>the player must decide which couple to save, or whether to sacrifice 3 girls to save the town
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>>152580997
But zero people died in those storms.
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>>152581862
In our world, sure. But just think what might have happened with a little bit of imagination :)
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Storms, sometimes really bad ones, happen at least a few times every year. But true love only comes once a lifetime.
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>ywn go to SummerSlam with Victoria
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>>152575981
Is she supposed to have a Chloe portrait framed on her wall (and there acould actually be a Chloe among her memorial wall)? She brought a photo of Chloe with her from home. And we can look at it and have her reminisce. It's not thrown carelessly under the bed as something that's just around. She explicitly brought it with her and placed it somewhere safe. Besides, the things I said about it being easier to avoid the thoughts and the associated feelings still applies - that's why she wouldn't want to have a "constant reminder" to begin with. Who wants to be constantly reminded of being torn from their childhood friend after their father died? And constantly reminded that they fucked up by not keeping contact?

Yes, she fucked up. Especially in that Blackwell month. But at 13, with a situation like that, there's nothing to blame her for. This idea that it's Max fault what Chloe has gone through, and even that she ended up in that bathroom, is just ridiculous. That's equally as out-of-her-hands as the storm is. Even Joyce is more to blame for Chloe's misery than Max.

She doesn't "owe" Chloe to save her. Especially not at the cost it comes (the terrible week and ending; the burden of everything, entire universes). She doesn't save her because she feels guilty or like she owes it to her. She does because she feels it's right, and because her love compels her. Always did. That love and connection maybe even being the reason for her powers (plus Arcadia magic I suppose).

And even if Rachel or whoever/whatever chose her, it's probably because they saw that love - so she'd still have indirectly gotten it specifically to save Chloe for Chloe's sake, not as a chance to "make up for" moving away.

But you are not wrong. One narrative theme certainly is "making it up to Chloe" - the guilt thing. A guilt however that both Max and Chloe at latest in the AU overcome, leaving everything they are to and do for each other an act of friendship and love, not guilt.
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>>152585408
>She does because she feels it's right, and because her love compels her.

this
this
this
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>>152582290
Everyone could teleport into safety.
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>>152581862
in real life yes.

but in Michel's universe, at least 70 million people can die from a light breeze
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>>152586805
>Michel couldn't even Google to see the most powerful tornadoes and base Arcadia Bay's damage off that

Why would I trust him?
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>>152585408
I agree with this. Max owes nobody anything, not even Chloe. Chloe doesn't blame Max for anything that she went through, Chloe just blames life in general/ the universe as a way to try to find culpability to shitty circumstances, and also because she was immature and didn't want to admit to her own mistakes.
Chloe went through a lot of pain. Some of it because she felt nobody was there for her and also partly because of her own doing. Now that doesn't mean at all she deserved what happened to her.

People forget Max didn't fare very well either; we see from the start of the game that she clearly has issues with her own confidence and has a somewhat stunted ability to socialize outside of her small group of friends.
The powers helped them both. Helping Chloe learn the truth about Rachel, about her father, about David and Joyce, and about life. And they helped Max do what she's always wanted to do: get back in touch with Chloe, make new friends, and be assertive. First because she could rewind and then because she gained confidence in her own ability without relying on rewinding. Up on the roof with Kate, that's not Max's powers doing the work, it's Max. Outside the party with Chloe, that's Max speaking.
That is why I think the source of the powers is someone close to Chloe, knew about Max, and wanted the both of them to succeed and thrive. The only two things I could see doing that are William, or (more likely) Rachel acting from the afterlife.
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>>152585184
>ywn see Victoria, Kate, Max or Chloe again
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What's happening with /lisg/-sings? Is it still being edited?
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>>152587831
It's in the OP towards the bottom.
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>>152480715
I don't really know what was or wasn't posted anywhere.
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>>152547189
>>152547320
she'd have nailed kate if it wasn't for the excessive makeup desu
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>>152588470
>>152588642
>>152588820
You have no idea how much those filenames scared me for a second. I misread "Criis" as "Chris".
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>>152589106
He's too busy transitioning and drawing sonic comics.

>tfw I'm not him
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Hello again /lisg/, we're organizing the next iteration of /lisg/sings! E-Except we don't know which song we should do next.

Please vote :
http://strawpoll.me/11054607
http://strawpoll.me/11054607
http://strawpoll.me/11054607
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>>152589545
Oh and poll closes in a day or two so don't forget to vote.
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>>152589106
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>>152589545
Obstacles is gonna win that poll easily.
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>>152590075
I don't see any more right now.
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>>152588470
>>152588642
Had these.

>>152588820
>>152588976
>>152589139
>>152590075
>>152590260
Not those.

You are an angel.

Pic related is the ones I had been looking for. I guess >>152590075 and >>152590260 plus the youtube rip will do. Unfortunate that she doesn't properly upload her stuff. Oh well, I guess she wants to sell.
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Very cute series of images. I like how well LiS translates into both really simple or cutesy styles, as well as more realistic.
Hell, you could draw stick figures and give them a few features to show what characters they are and you could still tell a nice story with them.
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>>152590408
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>>152469835
fuck off, viral slut
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>>152591221
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>>152591221
Victoria, your overcompensation is showing
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>>152591221
If you

>bully max
>bully chloe
>bully kate
>bully vic (or any qt grills)

we'll k8 you
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>>152591660
>no lesbians
>that nose
Pic related.
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Kate truly is an hero
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>>152590586
Thanks lots. WIP :DDD

>>152589545
>>152590218
"What A Day" would have won if it had made it! ;;

Will we sing Spanish Sahara one day? :v)

>>152587061
I agree with this. :) (Might as well go all emoji now.)
It's this interplay of the powers allowing them to (re-)connect, their connection simultaneously being the reason for the power to begin with; them getting each other out of their figurative cocoons, helping each other grow and overcome - both with and through the power, but the power also being merely the manifestation of this relationship and this each-otherness. ...Or something like that. I guess this ambigue not-this-not-that-but-also-both quality stems from the fact that the surficial supernatural stuff is merely a narrative device serving at the core a human story, magical realism and stuff. In that sense better that we never did find out just what's behind her powers, because that would have put more outlandish things at the core of a story that is, as it is, best interpreted as an inherently human story, and one about love, not a magic or sci-fi story. (https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/119759857/#119761124)
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>>152469790
>friendly reminder that you will never know what the VA cast truly believes because michel stands behind them in every interview
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>>152592301
>Will we sing Spanish Sahara one day?

Why would /lesg/ sing a song that isn't in the game?
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>>152592301
Sure, anytime.
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>>152592494
But anon, Glass Walls isn't in the game either!

>>152592812
W- What is Chloe doing btw.?
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>>152591660
Looks like their facial animation is as lifeless as ever.

Cool tone and atmosphere though. Maybe I'll get it.
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>>152593041
This >>152588976
She just doesn't have any arms here.
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>>152593041
Glass Walls is in the trailer.

And to me it looks like Max saw something, got surprised and nearly fell backwards, but Chloe caught her. But it doesn't look like the piece is entirely finished.
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>>152592301
That's what it boils down to: The source of Max's power doesn't matter. What she does with them, and thanks to them, does.
In the end she cannot be blamed for a storm created by something she didn't do.
Max can only be held accountable for her actions. Her past mistakes (Which she has more than made up for), her actions during the week, and her triumphs in the future.
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>>152588470
>>152592301
Bigger, different pose, no butterfly.
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>>152593126
But >>152592812 looks more polished than >>152588976! WiPs are Strange...

And that's still a very lewd side-hug...

Or maybe Chloe just caught her from falling like >>152593235 says. It's a cute thought and wouldn't be the first time either. Max is just usually unconscious for it.

>>152593778
Only God can judge her! Which is: Only Max can judge Max!

>>152594061
Bigger, better, Scriptfriend.
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>>152594345
One was probably a sketch, the other the final thing on a different layer but not yet done.
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>>152594569
The final thing that she never uploaded either... ;;

Or she is still working on it, possibly.
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What's the chances of LiS series 2 having a Warren like male protagonist?
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>>152594734
Oh my sweet summer child.
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>>152594798
The chances are always too big.
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>>152594798
I'd like to think someone in Dontnod is smart enough to realize 99% of the fans would hate this
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>>152594798
Pretty high.

All the Youtube commenters would jump for joy that they could finally have their Warryn get the cute girl.
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>>152594838
She is still possibly working on it!
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>>152595292
>they make Warryn the player character in lis2
>there is no good end and he gets cucked constantly
I would pay for that, but never play it.
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>>152594798
I hope they include a male love interest.
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>>152594345
What would God even say to Max?
>Good job helping Kate and all the others.
Then if there is a God that means they most likely gave Max that power.
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>>152595527
In Michel's world every possible ending would be a good ending for Warryn.

>Marries Max
>Wins Nobel Prize in science
>Becomes a UFC fighter in a month
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>>152595815
>they include a male love interest
>you can go on a date with him
>and then when he expect a kiss, you get a choice screen
>"RUN AWAY" and "TELL HIM I'M A LESBIAN, THEN RUN AWAY"
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>>152595931
God would punish Max for her deviant sexuality
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>>152595931
>WowserZ Max, you almost hella saved that shitpit. <.< Why was that even option, are you cereal. >.>
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>>152596530
>Chloe faints in the background because God is using emoji
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>>152595527
People thought following some of Max's plans later into the game were bad. Especially with the writer-induced stupidity like not being able to take evidence/ call someone about the Dark Room. Imagine playing as him.

>Play as Warren
>Players gets endless frustration because Warren keeps shooting himself in the foot by pursuing Max.
"She doesn't like you! Get the hint, you dense fuck! Just ask out Brooke, Stella, Victoria, or any other girl!"
>'Huh. Max seems to be pretty close with her friend Chloe, what other ideas can I give her to hint that I like her?'
>'Another text? Oh, it's another from Chloe about "Staying away from Max". That girl really likes that joke'
>'I know. Maybe Chloe has some ideas on what Max likes and maybe she can help me ask her out!'
"RAAAAAARRGGHH!"
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>>152596530
>Get to heaven
>Go to meet God
>It's Rachel
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>>152596965
Have you never been 16?
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>>152598404
One of my favorite shots of them from the actual game. The expressions and lighting are great.
Plus you can see how content they are to just be together. Even when they're working on something very serious at that moment they look relaxed.
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>>152597228
If I was that oblivious/ in denial about someone not liking me back, I would go back in time and kick my own ass.
I crushed on a few girls that didn't return the feelings but I didn't lie to myself that they didn't like me. I just kept my advances to myself and was glad that they were my friend.
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Looking through old theories I came across someone pointing out that Kate Marsh actually bought acid from Frank according to his logbook. Never really noticed that when playing.

A couple days ago some anons here were arguing for a while over what extent Kate 'wanted' to be part of normal teenage life and how it clashed with her faith. Her doing drug deals is intriguing in that regard.
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>>152600135
It wasn't Kate.
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>>152578498
>>152578715
>>152580595
Oregonfag here, I think I've chimed in before on these. It's an amalgamation of Tillamook's neighborhood there, Cape Meares location as a lighthouse (but not look, Cape Meares is kinda squat down on the cliffside). It's theoretical location is definitely Tillamook though, based on how Warren mentions going an hour to Newberg for the movie marathon - puts it dead there.

Looooads of visual references to other spots though. Seems they drove from Portland up to Astoria, then down the coast aways, then looped back.
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>>152599282
I mean, it is the scene where they are watching Jefferson leave, Chloe (teasingly) going on about how she finds him hot.

So not a favourite shot of mine, even if it is implicitly between the teasing and Max's "My... friend, Chloe" about the romantical tension between them.
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>>152600135
The devs confirmed it was someone different in Frank's book. So no, she didn't buy any drugs. Besides that person was written down as "Katie" when Kate didn't go by that in the game.
The only thing Kate did was go to a party once to see what it was like and had a little wine. Illegal? Technically. But Kate's morals are not necessarily associated with legality, they are what she feels is right for how she should conduct herself. Maybe having a drink contradicted those slightly but that is hardly worth dwelling on or saying she did everything to herself. Not that I think your are saying that.
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>>152600484
Fair enough. I just thought it was a nice looking screencap.
Like that's the look they would have if you were walking down the street and saw them. Or if caught a glimpse of them as you walked into Two Whales and they were sitting at their table chatting away.
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>>152600343
Garibaldi and Bay City specifically. Those have come up frequently, anyway.

>>152600821
It is a nice-looking shot. Like you say, the idle comfortableness with each other that it radiates.

And it's obvious that the flirting Chloe does with Jefferson is really flirting with Max (and she does call herself "Max's date"), but it still rubbed me way wrong to see Chloe give him flirty eyes and words.
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>>152601303
> And it's obvious that the flirting Chloe does with Jefferson is really flirting with Max

It didn't seem that obvious to me. To me it seemed like both, she was flirting with Jefferson and Max. She brings up 3-ways again right after Max kisses her. Despite both of them being played off as jokes, there's a bit of truth in every 'just kidding'. I wouldn't be surprised if Chloe was down for group play, as long as it was cool with Max. Max doesn't strike me as being particularly interested in it though, she responds negatively both times.
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>>152601836
Destiny Smasher, out.

And I am just realizing how fitting that name is.
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>>152601303
I understand how you feel. Making comments about Jefferson, even if their intentions are to get to Max.
But Chloe knows that Jefferson is a big hero to Max at that time, why she came back to Arcadia Bay. But as you said, she's also making a bit of a claim by saying "I'm Max's date". So even if she may find Jefferson physically appealing, her loyalty is entirely with Max. If she reeeally wanted to flirt with Jefferson then she could have easily done so- but she didn't and she wouldn't because she is not into him.
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>>152583946
Max looks pretty here

I've noticed that its either Max or Chloe who looks really good, it's rarely ever both.
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Kate :(
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Never posted here, but just wanted to say that to me the best part of the story is the beginning of Episode 5, Jefferson talking and taking photos of Max in the dark room. It sucks for her, but seeing into is mind it was marvelous, at least for me.

Still, I like Max, Chloe, Kate, Victoria... It's just that Jefferson seemed to have a "reason".

Is this a "normal" opinion? I mean, I never came here before but I feel bad for liking that part and the Jefferson character so much.
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>>152603891
It does take a certain level of talent to draw them both and accurately portray their faces. Because they are very different, the shapes, the colors, features, etc. If you can get one right it probably means it's close to a style you're familiar with so you'd have to be versatile to do them both well.
That's why I don't focus on it too much unless it's a glaring mistake. As long as the image itself is cute, the style is nice to look at, and Max and Chloe are to proportion then I have no problem.
If you really want true to the game then there's the 3D stuff but I find a lot of people cannot do emotions/ expressions with those a lot of the time.
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http://pyx-2.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/game.jsp#game=296
>password: hella
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About as subtle as an earthquake, I know,
My mistakes were made for you.
And in the backroom of the bad dream, she came,
And whisked me away, enthused.

And it's as solid as a rock rolling down a hill,
The fact is that it probably will hit something,
On the hazardous terrain.

And we're just following the flock,
Around and in-between,
Before we're smashed to smithereens
Like they were, then we scramble from the blame
And it's the fame that put words in her mouth,
She couldn't help, but spit them out.
Innocence and arrogance entwined,
In the filthiest of minds.
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>>152604445
> Is this a "normal" opinion?

Nope. While I agree with you, the most common thing I see is Jefferson being called a "Disney villain"
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>>152587061
>>152585408
You guys can't just say this, Max owes a LOT to Chloe.

It's imperative that Max saves Chloe, yes even if it means she has to have the town destroyed.
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>>152604445
Jefferson had the potential to be an interesting character and terrifying villain, but they made him do a complete 180 between episode 4 and 5. I found myself laughing more than being scared.
I expected him to start dancing/ singing when he turned the radio on.
Max was far more intimidating than him. Facing death, staring him in the eye, and cursing him out. Or going back in time to the classroom, encountering him, and instantly shutting him down.
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>>152589060
That's why I call it Kate Chase, it's like a Victoriafied Kate.
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>>152603891
Could be that many artist's styles lend themselves more to the phaenotype and "mood" of the one character and less the other.

>>152604445
Liking interesting characters is nothing to feel bad about. It's just that Jefferson wasn't really interesting. If anything, it was those Episode 5 Dark Room scenes that completely took everything that could have been intriguing. He is criminally stupid and his "vision" inconsistent and quite pathetic. His artistic obsession established more through his self-indulgent ranting than through his aura and behaviour. We generally refer to him as having turned out a "Disney villain" here, describing that over-the-top and almost goofy way his darker side is explored and how it is a too stark contrast.

He could have been an interesting psychopath with a fleshed-out artistic obsession or even involvement in something more sinister (ritualistic stuff, satanism, native magic, etc.), but all he was is a pseudo-rapist whose entire operation should have been blown open years ago, judging by how he behaves in this week.
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>>152605069
Was it popular opinion that Jefferson is a villain before ep4?
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>>152604952
Max does not owe Chloe. Max wanted to make up for the five years apart and she did that, she didn't have to. She wanted to spend the future with Chloe, regardless of what it may hold or what may happen in the Town.
Saying Max must do something because of a past error is belittling the meaning of it all and insulting the characters.
The same lines of those that wrongly believe "Max owes everyone in the town and must let Chloe die."
She's following her heart, not some obligation legally/morally placed on her.
It all comes down to Max and Chloe's desires as people, as friends, and eventually as a couple.
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>>152605479
We had leaks, so most people couldn't get around knowing he was involved somehow.

But honestly, just going by game logic it was never hard to call that he would be involved. I obviously will never know for myself, but I wouldn't have been surprised by the Episode 4 reveal either way. He was already iffy to me when I started playing the game, the leaks only confirmed my vague suspicions.
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>>152605479
I never suspected him honestly
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>>152605479
Most people saw it coming, but also thought he was at best a lackey. personally, I thought Sean Prescott was behind everything and that was why he was telling Nathan to keep calm.
My reaction to seeing Jefferson at the end of Ep 4 was pretty much meh. They didn't give him much of a character or buildup aside from the one line at the start of the game.
My main thought was who would rescue Max and how long would it take to get Max back.
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>>152604697
wtf is meant by disney villain
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>>152606359
Have no depth, being easy to hate and obviously "evil."
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>>152604445
Jefferson is great. He's smart, sexy, and obsessed.

He's clearly been broken by a life of fame and the photography business in general. It echoes Victorias hints on what becoming an artist really means, and look how much of a bitch she is just starting out. Also, you have to wonder why he's so into the innocence angle- he probably doesnt really have any innocence left. I imagine a young Jefferson as ambitious, smart, funny, cheerful even. You can see him faking his old self when he confronts Chloe and Max together by the dorms- the person he used to be. But he often slips up, like when he's talking to Kate- "maybe the lady doth protest too much." Its getting harder for him to fake it.

Also, since this is Twinpeaks lands, this game is always about the darker side of people underneath their bright exteriors. Everyone in this game has a dark side hidden somewhere if you keep your eyes open. His is ripped open for us to see, but Rachel, Frank, Warren, Chloe, and many other characters all have something- off about them if you look for it. "I'm so sane that no one will even suspect me" Jefferson almost senses whats fucked up about Max.
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>>152605656
This. If Max was compelled by anything other than her dedication and love for Chloe, she would have stayed in the AU. I have written extensively about this revelatory significance of the AU. Initially, Max does feel guilt. And Chloe "guilt-trips" her at times. But they quickly and completely overcome that.

Insisting something foreign plays into it (be it false guilt regarding Chloe or false guilt regarding the storm) is taking away from what it really revolves around - these two characters, their respective feelings, those for each other, what they mean to each other and the story.
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>>152606737
He is really over the top but I can forgive it on the basis of truth being stranger than fiction. Jeffrey Dahmer, who I have to assume inspired the name 'Jefferson', was a totally normal and likable guy on the outside. He lured people to his living space, photographed them, and them murdered them and cannibalized them, before finally being undone by his own careless stupidity.
I don't see how Jefferson is much different in terms of plausibility.
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>>152604364
Why the sad face anon?
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>>152607197
I killed you.
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>>152607623
At least Kate is in a better place.
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>>152607784
A warmer place anyway.
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>>152607861
I don't think a few inches into the pavement is really that warm.
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>>152607861
I bet there are comfy beds in Heaven. Much better than than a wet roof.
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>>152607784
Laying on her back on a couch, head resting on Victoria's lap, while Alice sleeps on her stomach?
That does sound pretty good.
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>>152578498
The maps of Arcadia Bay are actually depicting Garibaldi, OR, on the shores of Tillamook Bay. I forget the exact spot but one of the Bayside roads contains the spot the Two Whales Diner is modelled after, complete with the truck stop across the street.
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>>152607006
you wrote extensively on why Max would prefer to be in a universe where she's a uncaring and selfish bully in the vortex club? I hope you didnt write too much.
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Was Kate in AU if you saved her? How was she?
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>>152607006
Glad you agree :)
Everything boils down to what they want. The storm does not matter and may as well not exist.
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>>152608851
>she's a uncaring and selfish bully in the vortex club
Is there really any hard evidence that she's a selfish bully? The only person who vaguely alludes to it is Alyssa saying 'I thought you were different', and Alyssa chews you out in the original timeline for petty stuff.

>>152608945
I always find it funny when people to try argue that disregarding the bay is 'out of character' or 'max could never live with that'. Not 30 seconds before making the choice she tells Chloe
>NOTHING ELSE MATTERS, YOU ARE MY TOP PRIORITY
and it's only Chloe who tries to appeal to the people living in the town.
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>>152608851
While those are highly debatable points (straight-up false as I see it - just mentioning that she kept up contact with Chloe, sending her photos and letters on pirate paper is enough said), they have nothing to do with the point. Because once she is in the AU, ~she~ is in the AU. Whatever "AutoMax" was or is supposed to be here, it is MaxMax. And it is MaxMax leaving this universe behind. I won't go into it all over again, you don't wanna read it anyway.

>>152608945
As weird as it sounds, the storm really is one of the more minor obstacles they've overcome that week. The biggest being their own selves.
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>>152608941
She wasn't in AU at all anon
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>>152609739
Thought she'd be if she were saved.
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>>152609389
If you read through all her texts in the AU you can see that she has a completely different personality. I'm interested though, does this apply to Max after she's found herself there or is she still the Max we all like?
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>>152610234
That's a peculiar take on nature/nurture on Dontnod's part, especially considering Max spent most of the gap in Seattle where Chloe's situation didn't really matter anyways.
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Post cute Kate pictures pls
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>>152611653
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>>152611653
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>>152613406
Is that supposed to be Kate? Looks like non-punk Chloe tbqh
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>>152611653
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Some Kates.
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>>152616179
Does it include a Max?
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>>152616469
There's a boy with her kinda hair and freckles kek but real spoilers, definitely don't read if you're going to watch:

There's a girl with powers but not the same as Max's

one of the main characters' mother's name is Joyce too.
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>>152616620
I've just started watching, 35 mins into first episode

no qt Kate/Max tier girls, the only pretty one is a bitch

where my innocence at
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>>152616718
You just started. Let it go on more. Also it's only 8 episodes anyway there's not much to lose
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>>152616179
I like classic horror/mystery, and it was an ok watch, but I didn't like it too much. Child actors... I can't say I really got a LiS feel either.

>>152616469
Nope. There's "Eleven", a gifted, shy young girl, and I guess the series is also about her "growth". But she is not like Max.
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>>152616853
I enjoyed it a whole lot, thought it was a fun watch, good cast and pacing, great atmosphere and music.


A lot of people seem to have gotten a LiS feel from this, lots of similar things were around that reminded people of LiS. Even a nice little junkyard.
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>>152617203
Well, tons of LiS imagery is obviously nothing new. The cool thing about it precisely being that it takes (TV) stereotypes and tropes and puts twists on them.

But yeah, it is not a bad little series to watch, and it is a story about friendship, growth, very americanized in its themes and imagery - coming of age tales that use the supernatural to draw an older generation in, instil that sense of wonder and adventure in a nostalgic way. So they have similarities without a doubt.
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My heart is still fucking broken
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Seeing all those Kate pictures only made me more sad

This was a bad idea
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Just venting but was one of the saddest parts of the ending of LiS for you the feeling that you'll never experience a level of friendship/relationship like Max and Chloe? Was for me.
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>>152618224
Lemme help you out
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>>152618417
Indeed, anon. I feel like I'll never be able to have to such a deep connection with anyone. And with Max being rather introverted, it is even worse - quiet people never open up for me, let alone show this much of affection
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>>152618417
Yep.
Or that I'll probably never meet people like this 2bh
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>>152618664
Do you try to open them up? to know them or anything? If not it won't happen. Max needed someone crazy and fun like Chloe to open up and be herself to the open. Max is just so adorable, so lovely. I identify as Chloe and Max is just incredible to me.

I want to hug her and kiss her
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>>152618291
This?
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>>152619091

Yes, thank you.
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>>152618898
I try, but I'm never the right person. I get along with extroverts quite nicely but those relations don't satisfy me because I know I'm just one of shitload of other people they interact with

too autistic to hang out with normal people, not autistic enough to hang with other autists
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>>152618664
>>152618806
I'm unsure that nice people even exist in my area and age group. If I ever found someone like Max I'd probably question my reality.
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>>152616179
I've only watched 2 episodes but I think it's pretty good. I don't get the LiS vibe from it, except for maybe the look of it. The ambiance and colors/lighting/etc. of many of the scenes in Stranger Things feel like they could fit straight in to Life is Strange and not feel out of place in the least.

I could see the how you could see the stories as similar in a way but I don't personally see it. And the characters for sure aren't very similar.
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>>152619346
> If I ever found someone like Max I'd probably question my reality.

You'd just get excited too quickly about that person and she'd hate you

I had this with a girl similar to Kate I met, her quirk is maths instead of arts though
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>>152619269
Good luck anon.

>>152619346
There's a waitress in my town and she actually looks like Max and I couldn't help but stare at her cause she's so beautiful but she has longer hair tied at the back but she really looks like her and is super sweet like her. I spoke to her for like 10 minutes but I don't feel comfortable trying to get to know her outside of there.

but it's nice that people exist irl that look like our beloved video game characters.
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>>152618417
>>152619346
And the best part is, even if you made a connection like that, chances are they'd be straight anyways
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>>152618417
Yes.

I'm identify like a Max that tries to be somewhat sociable but never gets past the superficial friendships. Even my oldest friends know barely anything about me.

Ironically, even though I'm Anonymous, people here (not this board, I'm new, but in chans) know more about me than anyone else. Everyone may know my name, but those who don't are those who really know me.
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>>152619412
Yes. The look and feel. The story isn't really the same, there are similarities but the show itself feels LiS-y in general.
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>>152619606
Are you a lesbian?
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>>152619567
Is she nice to you anon? I'd try talking to her some more when you can! You never know. At least some Max-alikes are out there to be discovered.
>>152619606
Well, for me that would be good but tfw unattractive so they wouldn't be interested.
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>>152619735
>not being a qt lesbian
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>>152620235
She's very nice. She didn't serve me but I went over to her and we chat for like 5-10 minutes and I took her photo cause there was a quirk on her eye. She has big beautiful blue eyes just like Max's btw and qt freckles.

I've never asked anyone out who I didn't really know. This adult life is very weird, I'm only used to asking out people in my class and even then I had to know the girl.
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>>152620582
Always take the shot.

Worst thing that happens is she says she isn't interested.
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>>152620520
Warren I think you might be projecting a bit
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>>152620771
I'm feeling pretty alpha right now.
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>>152620751
True but at the same time, you don't shit where you eat. I would find it hard to go back there if I ask her out but at the same time I'll miss out if she quits working there.
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>>152620582
>>152620751
>>152620928
Basically what that anon said. From how you've described her she sounds pretty QT and friendly, it would be better to try and find out than to never know.
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Wow this thread got lively for a while. And still comfy.
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>>152621772
It actually turned out really shitty but I rewound and fixed everything
Of course, my city is now going to be destroyed unless I un-fix it
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>>152621173
I'm not autistic at all but I'm pretty nervous about asking her out. I'll at least try to get to know her better. Thanks guys.

>>152621772
This thread is always comfy, people just fall for bait a lot.
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>>152621881
/lisg/ > city

thank you anonMax
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Are people here friendly? First day here and it seems to be quite cool, not crowded, somewhat personal.
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>>152621901
>This thread is always comfy, people just fall for bait a lot.

Compared to other generals I sometimes visit, this is definitely most comfy one. Should've played the game sooner.
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>>152622178
It's the best general I have ever been in by an order of magnitude. Occasional showers of bait, but most of the time it's relevant cuteposting and polite well-reasoned arguments.
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>>152622178
I've been here for a few months, it's pretty sweet and I spend a lot of time here when I'm winding down from the day cause it's just so comforting, most of the time.

I wish I could have been here while the game was coming out.
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>>152624164
>ywn experience /lisg/ when all the fanart and fics were first coming out
>ywn debate crackpot theories over what was going to happen and why Max had powers
>ywn share the hope of a satisfying Pricefield ending
>ywn join the hype when a new episode was about to be released
Well, at least we'll be here for Season 2 if and when it comes out
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>>152624715
Don't make me feel, Anon.
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Goodnight /lisg/

I have 5 hours till I have to go out to work, no good sleep tonight for me
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>>152625547
This is the qtest Max moment from the game
Prove me wrong.
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>>152618080
This is beautiful
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>>152618471
>Old 1970's lamp sitting on top of an HP Windows Vista computer

Who does this?
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>>152624715
They're making a AAA historical vampire masquerade type game and its going to have a guy main protag. They only made this game because there studio was on the verge of bankruptcy. Our best hope is someone rips them off since clearly theres a market for it, or they make a B studio.
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>>152627551
There are 3 teams at Dontnod now, one for action games (Remember Me and Vampyr) and one for story focused games (LiS) and they picked up an indie studio last month and they're doing some competitive game.

Season 2 is almost certainly in the works but there probably won't be any info about it until next year.
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>>152627551
I was under the impression they had made vague allusions to an LiS continuation, but made clear that they were done with the story of Max and Chloe
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>>152627882
>>152627906
thanks for the info /lisg/ cuties.
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>>152622624
>>152624164
Yeah, I'm part of another general that is comfy too, but I might hang out here.

I hope you guys are receptive, you seem like a a fun bunch.
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>>152628737
How and under what circumstances did Victoria get invited to this?
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>>152629232
Part of her post-storm debitching therapy
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>>152625529
Night.

>>152629232
And sometimes she just sneaks into Max's dorm and crawls into bed with them. ...B- But not because she likes her or anything!
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So is there an option to bang the beta orbiter in this game or no?
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>>152630151
You can give him a kiss at the end, that's as far as it goes
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>>152630224
So there's no option to be a turbo slut and rewind time just before climax for unlimited orgasms?

DROPPED
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P
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>>152630427
No there's no option to do stuff like that. We are playing as Max in this game, not your mom.
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>>152630427
Victoria isn't the one with the powers, anon.
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>>152630583
Ooooo you got me good.
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>>152630427
I wonder just how many smutfics use this as a plot element
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>>152630427
Well if you're anything like me, you can use the rewind over and over again for unlimited kisses from Chloe
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>>152631056
Max doesn't even need a power for that.
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kiss~
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>>152630026
When Max is sleeping like that, Chloe probably stroke her her (or rubs her back if she can), sings to Max, talks to her, or takes pictures of her with the camera.
All those things subtly influence Max's dreams and make them more pleasant.
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>>152632919
oops. stroke her hair
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possible for Justin to get a happy ending?
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>>152631209
That makes me super jealous of Max
or of Chloe
or both...
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>>152632919
>Chloe probably stroke her her
>her her

Does this mean what I think it does?
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>>152633318
It's possible for everyone to get a happy ending. They just have to write it.
I am so sorry for how cheesy that was
Justin seems like a pretty chill guy, he'll find someone or something that makes him happy. Maybe he can work with Chloe at the Diner.
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>>152633318
No. Dana gave a happy ending to Trevor instead.
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>>152630026
Lying on a bench can't be that comfy
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>>152635539
It's not the bench that's comfy, it's the thing she has her head on.
that combined with the warmth of the sun and the sounds of nature are comfy.
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>>152627882
>>152627906
God I can't wait for some more LiS. These guys obviously write stories very well and create very heartfelt characters. I'm itching for more of this shit but please oh god please I want a good ending this time, I don't think I could take another tragedy. I already cry myself to sleep every night as it is right now.

I want to cry of joy this time...
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>>152637728
Well there's always the series as well. But there's almost no news of that beyond who's making it and that DONTNOD have given them nearly free reign to make what they want.
Honestly, the only thing that needs to be improved for anything else LiS is making sure that the story flows smoothly, that it's consistent, and that it's believable with the information they give. That is not a very hard thing to do.
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>>152637982
I'm seriously hoping if they're going to bay that shit up that they at least give us a choice at the end to pick.

Another thing is that I hope they manage to create strong chemistry between max and Chloe and the internal monologues show us that max is really falling for Chloe you know what I mean?
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>>152638267
If they go with the same story, and don't do a prequel or something else, I hope they either have Chloe alive at the end and show the after effects. Or they write a new ending where Max does something spectacular to save both Chloe as well as as many people as she can.
I'm open to any ending or story as long as both Chloe and Max survive it.
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>>152638930
I'm still sad Horny was able to come. Apparently keeping a goat in an apartment is frowned upon...
Hella lame.
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>>152639360
Do you mean "wasn't"?
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>>152641102
>>152641102
>>152641102
NEW THREAD WHEN
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>>152640943
I did. It's been slow so I didn't even reread it to see the typo.
Also, sick trick Kate! Chloe would be proud.
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>>152616469
>>152616620
>>152616718
What show are you talking about?
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>>152641173
why
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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