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>>152414174
but pandas still have the best combat animations

big banda benis

>That one item that would make your xmog set PERFECT, but you haven't seen it after weeks of farming

Name it.

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Dwarf a cute!

CUTE!

also name suggestions lads

Should I take Mining/BS for my DPS DK in legion, or Skinning/BS so I can gather bloods faster and sell the leather for anything that i need to craft for BS

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>tfw bad at ERP

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>tfw no Khadgar bf

Hunter t4 is still the best looking hunter set
It also looks legion themed

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Summoning Pylietz

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Why is forsaken the best race?

Will I get banned for doing the invasion reset exploit?

nth for wraith walk looks fucking retarded

>>152414609
What's going on here?

>>152414672
only if you believe in the tooth fairy

>>152414672
nah it's just a meme

i could have leveled 5 characters from 90-100 from all the xp i've missed at the last second

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Doggers

>>152414672
Yeah

>>152414672
if you get reported, maybe. getting stupid XP from invasions is not an exploit. resetting them is

What reason do I have to play Shaman?

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post your character doing this

>people think you will get banned for this
elegiggle

>>152414885
do i have to use tmorph too?

>>152414672
Whats the exploit?

Get to a late stage in an invasion, log off and it resets?

windwalker or unholy

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>>152414575
>mfw king of erp when I was a 11 playing starcraft and erping in sex chat lobbies
>Now I'm shit at it

>>152414521
Not now, but bulwark of azzinoth. Still have yet to seen it drop.
That fucking plate helm drops every run though.

>>152414931
yep

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>>152414624
ya what up kid

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Guhh....

Hnnnhhh....

Heroes...

Help...

Me...

>>152414832
>resetting them is

No it's not, otherwise you wouldn't be able to phase through them via LFG. Hell, the fact that they even adressed it by lowering the shards you get from repeated farming of bosses in the same phase shows they're fine with you resetting them.

>tfw made a female panda just because of the dance
im a degenerate now, arent i...

>>152414868
Best progression healer, some great looking armor sets.

>>152414672
it's not an exploit

>>152415067
you wont be a degenerate if you post a picture of ur panda

>>152414885
I thought the orc was headless for a second.

Fucking hunchbacks man,

>>152415067
kys :^)

Female goblin or female forsaken hunter?!

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>>152415067
>now, aren't i
>now

>>152414697
dragon giving the succ

>>152415106
>not resto druid

Wait what, I thought I was going to be the best at everything as druid?

>>152415067
No just take off her pants and post a webm of the dance from behind trust me anon it cures degeneracy.

>>152415106
>best progression healer

thats not druid
shaman is close second though

>>152415067
Reminder that female pandas are worse than male pandas

WARNING
do NOT use the logout exploitation or you WILL be banned

>>152414521
Primordial Bloodsoaked Pauldrons

getting real tired of killing trolls

>>152415106
is resto actually good in legion?

>>152415067
at least you didnt make a shit elf

Apparently Blizz confirmed that they will be suspending all accounts abusing the logout trick for invasions for 7 days starting Monday.

Shits fucking bullshit, not my fault they cant fucking program.,

>>152415169
Please help!!!

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Who /warchief/ in here?

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>>152415342

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reminder that i've been logging in and out constantly resetting invasions since they've began and nothing will happen

>>152415184
>>152415206
>>152415281

Pretty much agreed that Shaman is the best progression healer right now, especially for Mythic 5man. Coming from a lot of sources.

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>>152415338
(you)

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>>152415270
>>152415338

>>152415270
nice proof

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>>152415338
>blizz confirmed

Which DPS specs have the highest skill ceilings in Legion?

>>152415152
>>152415241
Will never undersatnd the hate for pandas
is it some /wowg/ meme to hate them?

>>152415389
>mythic 5mans
>progression

lmao

>>152415389
i wish healer specs had better artifacts in legion aesthetically
especially considering melees get to physically use them

>>152415452
any druid spec

>>152415338
it is, incidentally, your fault for taking advantage of the bug. they didn't make you abuse it.

>People literally think abusing a bug to level incredibly quickly (Thus taking money that they could have paid for boosts) wont get perma'ed

L
O
L

>>152415338
Maybe you'll finally kill yourself.

>>152415560
Are you aware of how Mythic 5man works?

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>>152414782
I'd give that dogger a litter of puppers

>>152415452

Subtlety

Like always

>>152415619
he's being a pedant because you didn't say m+

I have been running onyxia's lair solo since fucking cataclysm with over 200 kills on my main alone and still haven't gotten the mount
If it doesn't drop within the next 10 kills I swear to god, I'll never stream again

>>152415619
Are you? It's barely a supplement to raiding.

>>152415594
>Any druid spec
>Balance is literally keep up two long dots
>Use Starsurge whenever you get enough power
>Fill with Solar Wrath

>>152414563
respond to me

>>152415053
why would they have put them on a cooldown if their intention was that you could just spam them for hours in a row? why wouldn't they advertise the way you can reset them? it's an exploit.

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>>152415270
What logout exploitation?

>>152415452
ret paladins

>>152415783
DON'T ASK

>>152415727
Whatever you want to believe.

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>>152414929
whats tmorph

>>152415135
but he was a nice orc please dont bully him bully me instead

>>152415783
>kill invasion cunts and collect mad xp
>logout in stage 4
>puts you back in stage 1 so you can get even more mad xp

>>152415776
You're not spamming the whole invasion. The fact that they hotfixed stage XP to only be rewarded once shows they acknowledge resets are happening, and they're okay with it as long as you're just grinding the kills.

>>152415842
>he thinks mythic dungeons will be considered progression

Literally lmaoing rn

>>152415872
okay, uh, your bangs are dumb

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im pretty disappointed with the 300 toy mount, it couldve been so much better

like one of those goblin planes or whatever

I hope when they give casters new animations like melee they give us the ability to use your staff in casting like Guldan does.

>>152415897
They didn't hotfix that, stages always only gave rewards once, including xp.

>>152415842
It's literally what was said in the latest developed interview.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/5921-Gamescom-Developer-Interview-Addon-Changes-in-Patch-7-1

If you're lucky, you're gonna get one piece of gear that is better than raid stuff. Maybe.

>>152414968
"If you're anxious, get excited."

I'd recommend grape juice.

so just found out a fun little tid bit.
going into Voidform as a shadowpriest actually makes you speak in the language of the old gods.
I havnt tested if it does it in any other chat than /s /y.
neither did I test if there were mobs we can understand now just by being in void form

>the mentally ill yuropoor is pretending to be lynris again

go back to bed fucking noob

>>152415615
>>152415338
>>152415270
Its been on Reddit all day, if it was going to be bannable they would be up in arms/mod would lock it

>>152415897
>they acknowledge resets are happening
yep, but
>they're okay with it as long as you're just grinding the kills.
is faulty, cherry-picked logic. more likely it's just an interim solution while they figure out exactly what is allowing the bug to happen and how to stop it. it was probably the easiest solution which breaks the least things.

>>152416064
wonder if you can understand old god languages from older dungeons

>>152416036
yes please god

>>152415776
It wasn't their intention, but after all the crying over the first nerf, at this point they don't care anymore. There's like a week left until legion and people are only getting exp, not gold.

>>152414575
try erpin with yourself

Threadly reminder:
>In Patch 7.1, addons will not be able to access unit position in raids, dungeons, and competitive instances.

>>152416116
It's not a bug unless you consider server transfers also a bug.

>>152415776
You don't get repeated stage xp
You don't get repeated chest drops
All you're doing is farming boss kills. So no, there will be no bans.

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>>152416029
>300 toy achievment is just a recolored sky golem
They could have at least gave the model used by blackfuse in siege of orgrimmar.

>>152416119
mabye, Im just hoping those mobs actually were using the same language filter and not just some random jumble blizzard inserted at the time

>>152416242
This makes no sense.

>>152416242
>using addons ever
senpai, it's a fucking game, just play it the way they designed it

>>152416242

>I have to actually perceive the threats on the battlefield and use judgment in the heat of battle

"oh no"

>>152416242
>shitters will have to git gud

how is this bad

>>152416242
???
so we cant track if we would be near another player with a nasty debuff? i.e living bomb clones

>>152416324
Toy achievement reward a mount is retarded in the first place.

>>152416242
what, that's fucking bullshit. fuck blizzard

>>152416346
>>152416359
>>152416375


t. LFR players

I JUST GOT FUCKING BANNED AFTER I LOGGED OUT WHAT THE FUCK

>>152416242
This doesn't bother me so long as they give you a decent indicator of how far you have to stand when it's time for another episode of 'dont stand within 8 yards of anyone or you explode'

>People think you wont get banned for farming invasion using the exploit when it introduces fuckloads of Nethershards into the game and fucks up the economy

>>152416574
ME TOO IT'S PERMANENT WHAT THE FUCK

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>been playing male humans since BC
>suden urge to race change my Warrior to male NE and Paladin to mael Draenei

What is happening to me

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>>152416495

>He honestly thinks you can't play the game without crutch addons

Best class for horde panda?

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>>152416590
>implying nethershards buy anything of worth

might as well swarm the economy with apexis shards oh wait that already happened and nobody can buy shit with them

>>152416574
IT'S ALL OVER BOYS

>>152416590
>economy
there wasn't a nethershard economy to begin with

>>152416346
Ugly and poorly? No thanks. Blizzard abandoned ui improvements when they realised a million autists were willing to do the work for free.
You can also argue the game was "designed " to use addons. Sooooo fuck off

>>152416701
shaman for dem caster animations

>>152416701
Shaman

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>This leveling speed

Already got my warrior and priest to level 100 today.

starting on my hunter.

>>152416768
>>152416805
Already have a shaman of a superior horde race

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>>152416819
I just started a Shaman because why the fuck not lmao

>>152416679
>male NE
don't
>male Draenei
ok

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Playable lunaras when?

>>152416819
I cba to go the full 100 since 90-100 is pretty fast with bonus objectives and treasures anyway

but getting over that fucking cata + mop bump, praise the fucking lord for invasions

>>152414336
He will turn God no our last hero fuck you billzard.

>>152416685
Link mythic archi kill :)

>>152416819
Is it worth it to go and farm treasures at 93 or not?

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>>152416574
>>152416675
>>152416725

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>>152416819
>mfw invasion leveling is going to create a fuck ton of shitters at level 100 who don't really know how to play their class because all they did was sit afk in invasions.

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Tanks cause all allies to deal 20% increased damage in PvP at level 110

let's assume that a tank does 60% of a DPSes damage, and you are playing 3v3 arena as a tank with 2 DPS on your team

260% damage x 1.2 = 312% damage

with a third dps on your team instead of a tank, you are only dealing 300% damage

tl;dr: tanks are viable in PvP

>>152416991
If you are afk leveling invasions you aren't going to level fast at all

>>152416991
So in other words it'll change nothing

what can I mail across servers? anything?

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convince me to buy legion

i haven't played since icc

>>152416919
>Two invasions rockets me through all of the garbage TBC content

fucking praise

>>152417038
that's not how math works

>>152416991
>Sitting AFK

Uhh no I am spamming Sunfire kid

>>152415338
How would they even now

>>152416485
another dank title wouldve been nice

>>152416978
nigga I have that very same bait machine in my towns esso

holy priest or resto shaman for legion pve?

>>152414563
respond to me now

>>152417084
Dude I was 80 this morning 7 pm I'm 95 now 9pm

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>>152416242
This is misleading when mentioned out of context.
You'll still have DBM to tell if something spawns, or if you're effected by a debuff, and the timers for various abilities and all that shit
You won't get pointed exactly where to gp, nor will there be bullshit with said addons in mind like mythic wrought chaos, unless blizzard impliments their own extended indicators to deal with the abilities (like making the warning lines from wrought chaos extent across the entire room)

>>152417081
Dont. Nothing to see here. no peeking.

>>152417224
umm i know

kill yourself

rofl

>>152417081
come to Illidan (H) and I'll be your buddy
I'm going to college in the fall tho

>>152416970
I persisted on my dk at 90+
If you do the logout at the start of phase 3 at org gate, you can do 2.2mil xp/hr
Jump in demolished and tag everything that spawns. Logout and the end of phase 2. Repeat

Anyone notice exp nerfs for 60+?

What are the image md5s in the OP? How do I view them?

>>152417451
Get a wife first

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anyone done the tanaan pet dailies since the pre patch (howl bomb nerf)?

do you need a fuck tonne of lvl 25 pets to do it now?

>>152417309
>>152417290
i am unconvinced

Just got 90 and now all my looms are about to go obsolete. What's faster these days treasure hunting or still invasions?

>>152417562
unborn valkyr/ikky/emerald proto whelp
ikky/rabbit/emerald proto whelp for the aquatics

>>152417451
warm her up to the idea by getting her to fuck a dog first

>>152416991
We already have boosted faggots
Fighting the invasion bosses have already given me more knowledge about my rotation and situational awareness than leveling a character through questing has

>>152417621
literally who

if 5 hang yourself

>>152417621

who?

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>>152417124
I would love the name The ToyMaker

>>152417621
dew it

>>152417361
yes, I barely get a level for doing the first 3 stages on my 75

Before, I got around a level and 50% of the next level

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Goblin or forsaken hunter?!

>>152417872
Wow it's almost like xp scales exponentially

>>152417621
NOW

>>152417038
200 × 1.2 = 240
240 + 60 = 300
You are not your own ally, retard.

>>152415872
CUTE

>>152417872
>2016
>pretending to be retarded

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Could a toaster laptop probably play the current game if you're not raiding but just fucking around leveling alts to kill time?

Haven't touched this since WotLK.

>>152418075
if it can take some heat or if you buy some cooler to put it on, yes

>>152417910
>decide to watch that anime because the gifs were cute
>robot loli dies in the end
what the fuck, also goblin hunter and use the pipe bow from the demon invasion.

>tfw want to fap but should probably rest for a few days

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How long does it take for garrison to have anything worthwhile in WoD leveling?

>>152418190
why the rest anon?

>>152417682
alrighty ty my man

is there a particular breed for the rabbit that i need or is any rabbit fine?

>>152418268

never until you get shipyard and can get mythic hfc chests

>>152417975
>>152418031

the exp requirement does not double from 73 to 75 you fucking retards

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>>152414885

>>152418268
Garrisons after the gold nerf are worthless and a waste of time and gold

>>152418321
try and get a fast one with flurry/dodge/stampedewhatever it's called

>>152418478
>I'mplying garrison resources -> hexweave bags still aren't profitable as fuck if you have multiple tailorers

>>152418321
Spring one is the fastest.

>>152418423
what

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>>152414885

What's the best ultrabook to buy for school and to play WoW on?

Can cost whatever.

>>152418723
macbook of your choice

just don't be a poorfag

Vrykul playable race when?

>>152418570
by the time he's got all that shit set up, Class halls are going to be around, and those bags made suboptimal anyway.

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>>152414336
>>152414521
>farm t4 on my hunter
>paladin, rogue, shaman
every fucking time

just got fucking banned for using inasions for leveling
serisouyl????

>>152418570
opportunity cost u stupid nigger

>>152418723
you can play wow on a toaster

>>152418748
I don't want a mac. To troublesome too install windows on it and too bothersome to use the mac OS.

which is the best horde race for rogue

>>152418887
really? i thought there was going to be bigger bags

What's the best mobile phone to buy to play WoW on?

>>152418995
goblin

>>152418723
i don't know about books but what about my ultradick?

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>Guildies start treating me differently the moment they find out I'm a girl.

>>152418435
cute femdeds!

>>152417081
horde still thinks frogposting is funny and clever

>>152418887
>hexweave
>suboptimal

>>152419061
imagine how they will treat you once they find out about your penis

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post good mogs

>>152419246
>set mogger

>>152418641
nice mog

>>152418983
mac OS is a godsend on a laptop m89 because of the multiple desktops and the god-tier trackpad, especially for school work. try one out if you have some mac store near you

tell me if you find a windows laptop and windows mods which compare, I haven't found them

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>>152419061
>Guildies start treating me differently the moment they find out i'm trans.
~_~

>>152419246
you first

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>Guildies start treating me differently the moment they find out I'm a boy.

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>>152419061
Only way they could find out you are a girl is because you are a attention whore that wanted them to know. Fuck off with your slut drama

>>152419004
There will be one for a million gold, but other than that hexweave bags are still the bag to go with.

this is fucking wowg not fucking anime central

>>152419246
are you carl from athf

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>No Guildies to treat me differently

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I'm going to marry the strongest character in the game!

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Goblin or forsaken MARKSMAN hunter?!

>>152419410
or, you know, voicechat

>>152418423
(you) can't read

>>152419496
You new friend

>Fly into Lion's Rest
>the music starts playing

How do Blizzard's music team keep getting shit right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahix7xMQSSw

Human or dwarf mage for pvp?

>>152419410
>go on voice comms
>talk
wow somehow its my fault ...

>>152418748
Macbook PRO. The macbook 12 inch is a netbook pile of shit and overheats for everything. can't play wow on it.

GUYS I JUST GOT PERMABANNED FOR USING THE LOGOUT FEATURE

>>152419557
heh thanks for the (You), kid

why are there so many bullies here?

>>152419559

It's the SW Harbor music that I really like.

All these new tracks in SW are great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ua3DAw36o

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>>152419246

>>152419598
>be bron a girl
>boys like girls

ugh wtf why do i get treat different

>>152419539
>>152419598
>Go on voice chat
Your own fault, eat a dick slut.

>>152419705
>I miss my black boyfriend

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>>152419598
Boo fucking hoo

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>>152419763
>black
He was Arabian you racist

>>152419989
>black dragon
>not black
hhhhmmreallymmmakesmmyoummmmmmthinkmmmmm......

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>>152415993
s-sorry ill get them cut when i undelete my character

>>152417997
no i m not okay i am ugly and plain geez

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eQ3kdYBuMG-xsXcJ6jY-PJSNS5zv0cHmdxX6S6dL1_w/pubhtml

reminder if your main spec does not have off-spec synergy in legion you are playing a bad class

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>>152414975
>tfw it dropped first time

>>152414521
steelbreaker's embrace
not even a low droprate but estill evades me after 4 weeks with 4 characters

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>>152419061

>get accepted into a raiding guild
>join their voicechat
>2 girls
>they're both obviously 40+ southerners that smoke 20 packs of cigs a day
>everyone ignores them and makes fun of them

>>152420067
now that's cute

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>>152419568
pls respond

>>152414521
Charmed Cierge

I've NEVER seen it drop

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post orignal mogs, no tier or cm also no hate

guys, what race should i make my fire mage?

>>152420693
goblin

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>>152420047
>>152420047

He's not Arabian, he wasn't even born in Uldum. He just put a turban on because he probably can't hide his horns perfectly yet or something equally cute.

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bye /wowg/ it was nice knowing you, thanks for the memories even though they weren't so great

>tfw can't transmog my brewfest mugs for my dorf enhance shaman

>>152420693
In order: Forsaken, Blood Elf, Human, Gnome and that's it

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>7 day ban for "abusing game mechanics"

>>152420873

bye loser

>>152419061
They're probably just wondering if you're attractive, like pretty gazes and expression.

>Americans are waking up

Whelp, time to vacate the thread lads. It was fun while it lasted, see you all tomorrow.

>>152420997
>Americans waking up
at 11 pm
xdddxddd

>>152420997
and good riddance

female worgens are the best

>>152421334
yes! I want to marry a female worgen!

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>Warning
>Offense: Abuse of Game Mechanics
At least I didn't get banned like some of you faggots

>>152420693

Night Elf for lore accuracy

>>152419705
Post mog?

>>152419568
Human.

>>152421396
autism

What'll be the most profitable professions in Legion?
What are they now?

Why is undead monk so cool, /wowg/?

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>>152421416
>>152420931

>>152419061
Pylietz ...

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Post meecens!

>>152421430
Night elves were "sorcerers" not "elementalists".
Arcane describes them best.

>>152421416
I abused your mom's throat with my dick

>>152421464
do NOT bully female worgens

>>152421512
because it looks great and is a fun combination

>>152420931
Hehehe

troll belf or goblin for femhunter

Is memerons head even worth farming or do too many shitters have it

Do dps just not have utility anymore? I was trying to compare windwalker to unholy for legion and it seems like there is fucking no utility.

>>152421729
no mount is worth farming

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>try some skirmishes
>keep getting paired with shitty Demon Hunters who can't play for shit

Fuck me these cancerous faggots are literally useless, I hate pre-patch pvp especially when there's a new class.

>>152421715
troll if you're not a shitposter
belf if you're a shitposter

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im banned now!!!!!!

tfw no qt tranny gf

This game really would benefit from a LOS tune.

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>>152421454

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Good evening. What're you guys up to

>tfw just got tanned

thanks blizz

hi

>>152421729
>farming mounts

>>152420228
>guild in wrath GM was a girl
>she was literally a high school student who played her shitty music in vent all day
>later found out one of the other members was a girl as well
>she was a 10/10 canadian girl
>actually got her and the GMs facebook profiles

wish i still had them

>>152421940
post tan lines

>>152421734
If your whole class even has one utility spell you're already lucky

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post cool monks

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>hit 98
>get holy smite buff
>go back to invasions

>>152422181
Doesn't windwalker have 10% run speed to all raid members? Do they get that themselves?

Unholy has battlerez

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>>152414560

woa cute as heck dwarf

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What happened?

>>152422321

2016

>>152421557
not the anon you responded to but what do you want senpai?

my guild is a bunch of normalfags who don't care if the person playing is a boy or a girl :^)

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>>152421491
bls advice

>mfw I can play the entire game on a steam controller and it works better than I expected/
>bound jump to A and it actually feels like a platforming game
>mfw using rare tracker addons and flying around with a controller and feet on desk

>>152422321
>horde players
not even once

>>152418723

>trying to raid on my MacBook Pro
>3 frames a second

I did get the 13" base model from 2013 so that might be the problem. Love it otherwise

just woke up. have they nerfed the log out trick yet?

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>>152422206

>>152422574
no but you can get banned for it

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>>152419246

dwarf pride world wide

>>152422453
JC + Mining

Are there any melee specs that just kind of suck? I am choosing between enhance, unholy, windwalker, and maybe fury, but don't want to get stuck with a spec with shit ass damage because "muh cleave" or something like that.

hey senpaitachi, I'm leveling a shaman now and I have no idea what profs I want to have on her.

I have all profs at max on my other alts, whats going to be good to have extra of in legion?

>>152422453
>jc + bs
illijiggle

>>152422625
are you fucking with me?

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I JUST GOT PROMOTED FOR USING THE LOGOUT TRICK

>>152421829
>not buddying
US?

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>>152419246

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>mfw I'm level 79 in lvl 1 gear and rest of inventory is empty

invasions r p cool

what's this logout shit

>>152422673
What if I mine on an alt?

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>>152419246
i dunno

>>152422206
>>152422608
Aww, nice.

>>152422846
>ornate, golden armor
>weapon is a sharp rock on a stick

>friends made me play on a pvp server ages ago, got the majority of my account there, would cost a fortune to transfer out to a pve realm
>getting raped by demon hunters in tanaan
This mini game is seriously fucking tiring.

>>152422868
theres a bug that sometimes bans people for immediately logging out (alt f4 or in a rested area)
you have to use the manual logout button to be safe

>>152422770
>tfw no friends

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>>152422206
>>152422608

>>152422868
If you exit a zone or go to character selection during Stage 1 or 2 of an invasion, you reset it by returning. Thus you can grind the same invasion for the full 2 hours instead of getting the end loot and finishing the event.

>>152422896
Blood of sargeras is BoP so you'll have to do fishing or something to actually craft stuff early for max profit

Who do I whisper in RIP in peace for a ginvite?

Has anyone else noticed that Battlegrounds are rigged? There are always """"""""""""""""""""""""""bugs"""""""""""""""""""""""""" that change the balance of the match. Such as graveyards not resurrecting you, or flags not getting captured. Why is this allowed?

is spriest rotation really as hard as it seems?

>>152422031
>have female guildies
>they are all butch lesbian tumblrites.
JUST...

>>152422673
>>152422751
JC is nerfed a la noslots. Is that getting juiced?

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>>152419246

>>152423059
What is lag

>>152423049
anyone

>spent all day afking in invasion zones and didnt get any levels

am I soft banned or something?

>>152423081
there's no rotation that's more difficult than another
they are all simpleton mechanics

>>152423026
Tits? Destiny?

>>152423059
can't have horde winning now can we

>>152423109
Not gems, the necks and rings are BiS the first few months

>>152422767
HOLY FUCK CONFIRMED LADS

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>target someone to inspect
>they target you back

>>152423190
Nah I had the flag for a good few minutes and it just didn't cap.

>>152423306
Holy shit, and you're right I am Horde. Seriously what the fuck.

>>152422947
W-what

>>152423081

what? shadow priest is easy as shit now

>>152423247

frost mage says hello

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>>152422453
that's a dank lookin' set

>>152423005
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748486378#1