/edg&scg/: Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous #15

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Retribution!

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post sexy spaceships, anons

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How do I get gud at piloting in SC? I have an Avenger, loaner Hornet, and loaner Constellation. Most of my dogfights are reduced to me strafing in a circle around my target shooting them from a distance until they decide to come straight towards me and I usually get rammed to death or can't get away from them. I feel like there is a whole other realm of movement I'm missing out on that would help me evade and escape someone who is chasing me. Also what range should you try to be to your target to land good hits?

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>>152370612
Sexiest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gStAqq4zj0M

Well shit, now I want this to happen.

I'm not sure why OP decided to merge these two games into one thread. I hope Star Citizen will be nothing like elite Dangerous.

what happened to /nmsg/?

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>>152370747
Federation stronk
>>152370790
You've been gone a while. Welcome back.

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Reminder that dads are unbelievably horrible people, who have to shit on every quality of life feature every single time.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/281824-2-2-s-Instant-Ship-and-Module-Transport-Yay-or-Nay

>>152370868
Did it die already?

>>152370868
Why would we know or, frankly, care.

>>152370790
Thank you would be nice for starters

>>152370686
I wish I could help you, but I have the same issue. Murdering the AI is easy though.

Using the rudder a lot recently though.

I had a blast in PTU by engaging the fastest speed mode and and dancing around whatever tried to follow me in the 300i, issue is because of shields these kind of boom & zoom attacks aren't all that effective.

>>152370868
>>152370990
This. Why care about a game built on lies. It's also ugly and you could tell it was doomed years ago.

>>152370790
So do people from /edg/. Our threads die without one another, we are best buds now.

>>152370879
So I take it this is not new and that I'm not the first one to think it is strange?

>>152371030
Why?

>>152370686
>>152371041
The problem is most likely your weapon loadout

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>>152370612
there is none sexier

>>152370790
there was a vote
we decided to merge both generals to stop them from both dying so quickly

this was a few weeks ago, anon

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>>152371138
/edg/ and /scg/ die quickly. Merging them ensures there's always a thread up.

>>152370868
It's a shit general for an even shitier game, even shitier than elite.

It's no surprise it failed.

>>152370686
>>152371041
>>152371148

Yeah, you guys need the download on what's the latest meta meme build for pvp, there's always some broken overpowered weapon loadout. I would help you out but I don't follow that shit when there's basically nothing to be gained from engaging in it.

>>152371182
shame it's fucking shiiiiiiit

seriously why even own one?

>>152371148
I purchased 2 S2 gimbal mounts for my avenger and put Tempest II missiles on the rack. What would you suggest for a loadout?

>>152371308
Elite is addicting but I hope they go through with the quality of life changes.
>>152371363
I'm waiting for betaPU. There's too many issues currently and 20GB patches are horrible.

>>152371293
w-why's there a Rathalos in the picture?

>>152371293
i'm pretty sure even a sidewinder would absolutely wreck a full grown dragon
>can fuel scoop hydrogen out of the corona of a fucking star
>can equip railguns

>>152371148
Got a suggestion for the 300i? The standard wing lasers seem to pack quite a punch outside overheating easily.

The massdriver feels meh though due to the long reloading time. Tried the Panther repeater now with the free ships, as a sort of fast firing "light" gun to use when the wing lasers need to cool, but I'm not impressed by it. It hardly seems to do anything.

>>152371108
>>152371231

If it was that bad then they should just have died. It's not like there were any SC new in a while. I just don't get why ED would need it if the game was worth a general since it has been out in a while.

But hey, if it works for you guys then I'll stop judging and you answered my question.

>>152371460
I would play a space sim version of monhun...

>>152371472
well no shit
dragons are not made for space
but if you move the fight in a planet amosphere, i'm pretty sure it would be a fair fight

>>152371460
dunno but it should be our maymay

shoop MH monsters onto images of SC and ED ships for no raisin

>>152371617
I think sometime in 2013 when the game was first revealed I had a wish in me that NMS would have giant space creatures you could encounter.

>>152371713
my premise assumed the fight happened in an atmosphere
>sidewinder build to withstand extreme heat and armored against kinetic attacks
>dragon not built for impacts by a multi ton flying object going mach 1.8 and railgun rounds going mach 14

I have the urge to put 4 Mantis GT-220 on a freelancer, is this a waist of rec?
Knowing that the idea is stupid is there any gun that is worth replacing the Tarantula GT-870 Mk3s with on the freelancer with?

>>152371404
Speed is everything, you can't hit something you can't track unless you're literally sitting in place spinning your ship in which situation you will be fucking shredded, and it has a good amount of firepower, maybe could do with a little more, hopefully you can customize/mod it with more weapon hardpoints in the final game or whatever.

A ship that fast and light with two heavy BRRRT size 3 weapons that do a shit ton of damage at close range can't not be a good combination if they balance it properly.

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>>152370612
>sexy spaceships
Mi-24 in spehs

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>>152370948

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>>152371617
Land on death-world class planets with friends and kill gigantic creatures with ridiculously large melee weapons in order to harvest their bodies for even crazier weapons and armor? Sign me the fuck up.

>>152371917
Shouldn't the Rathalos be able to easily land onto it and start ripping off its hull? A sidewinder will fall apart if it hits something while traveling slightly too quickly.

>>152372119
>not outfitting military armor and HRPs for dragon hunting
>not jumping to SC as soon as you get grabbed

cmon

>>152371957
Once you start to black out there's no point in being able to change direction faster. It's about flying smart, not fast.

>>152371930

You probably want the S3 Broadswords but I have not seen any 2.4 or 2.5 weapon data.

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my b o i

>>152372279
>Jumping to SC as soon as you get grabbed

Oh yeah I forgot that's a common tactic legitimately in game among the shitters

>>152372119
>>152372279
also, shields

Finished outfitting my FAS with lv5 heavy duty HRP and armor.
>dat 3000 armor

flying this space brick into other ships is so satisfying

So smuggling missions are dead, right? How do I make money?

>>152372391
That's why I mentioned the second half of my post. Shields are easily disabled just by hitting stuff at high speeds.

>>152372359
o shit

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http://imgur.com/a/nmWw2 4k 3.0 screenshots

I would recommend ship loadouts but I haven't played AC in a 5 months I would just to experiment and look up guides on youtube

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>>152370612

>>152372553
pucciboi missions at sothis ceos

>>152372830
This helps me figure out what I want to do with my loadouts. I think it gets updated every patch as well.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10wHxIWJ_y5aUixfrhwNPwUpqYqm0eJEI6yUkQklvLVA/edit#gid=998208401

>>152372830
Smoke and mirrors, not impressive, why couldn't they show off more people? etc.

Do you guys think for me, a guy who got about 40 hours of enjoyment out of elite, alpha 2.5 is likely to be a good time to jump on board SC with regards to present and future content?
I mean, considering the fundamental tech they release at that point, in my naivety Im inclined to believe content can be added more quickly from that point on

>>152373306
Because the ai system isn't done :^)

>>152373349
fucking cunt we tell you no every time

This isn't steam """"early access"""" this is an actual alpha where shit barely works and isn't implemented

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>>152372848
btfo pussyship

>>152373349
No wait for 3.0

There is literally no reason to buy into the game right now

There is just not enough content for it to be something you spend a lot of time in

It's not meant to be a game that you play right now, it's a tech demo

>>152373595
>This isn't steam """"early access""""

Lets be honest, Yes it is.
Chris even said so much himself earlier today on stream.

>>152373595
Alright, I'll forget about it for a long time again. Thanks for grounding me, my imagination went a little wild after the new demo.

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>>152373767
Did he? What time?

>>152373796
We hype too there's just nothing for us players there yet

>>152373767
I mean it's not like subnautica where the game is clearly done for the most part and they just keep the EA tag to deny flaws

that gamescon demo was fucking brilliant.

>>152373864
ahahah what the fuck

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>>152373767
Steam early access usually connotates a mostly working full game. This is an alpha alpha, like what most companies only do internally these days. Massive overhauls are a regular occurance, most of the game isn't in, including major core features, everything is subject to change, and things not working is par for the course. The whole point is actual bug finding and stress testing. It's a test bed, not a demo.

>>152374176
no shit they just saved the project

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>>152374234

>>152373864
>>152374262
I'm not gonna go hunt the timestamp but it was when he was talking about when the game will be 'released' and then went back and corrected himself by saying that's not really how the game is as it's already a living world that is being added too.

This is not a 'test bed' that's what the PTU is for. Star Citizen, as it stands now, is an early access game that is being added too.

>>152370498
http://i.imgur.com/aF55DyJ.png

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>>152370331
>ayylmaos can and most likely will interdict you on witchspace
oh boy i sure will enjoy being pulled out of my way by the same alium npc here in the ass end of nowhere where there's nowhere to run and nothing that can save me

>>152374358
>brown skin
Le fu.

>>152374406
Was early during the stream at least? I only caught the end.

>>152374453
>women actually try to tan

fucking kill me

>>152374406
>It's not an alpha, it's an alpha with a different name

Okay. Can you stop posting dumb things now?

>>152374453
>Brown skin

I didn't know you could be color blind with skin tones

>>152370948
Holy balls those people are fucking retarded. No wonder brabo and robo love them theyll do summersaults to give them money and take away qol features.

Is shields or armor more useful for bounty hunting?

>>152374717
t. American

>>152372340
I found a data sheet for 2.5

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13LzkKzDOKIdrhwL5E2n2Co6THa74A2izxn8lykDuPAk/edit?pageId=113703985130396978893#gid=1241570521

>>152374745
Actually Sandro was saying in the stream they wanted to add more quality of life stuff and cut out the boredom between it. I guess they got tired of dads never being happy with anything.

>>152374862
Magyar living in America

>>152374923
there's british crime man in bottom left

>>152374441
you have to go back before it's too late

when it drops, fdev are going to have fucked the spawn rates of thargoid interdictions and every single explorer outside the bubble will be simultaneously raped by horribly overpowered ships twice the size of a conda the moment they jump anywhere

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>>152374712
Around the 6 hour mark is when Chris came on to talk, it's in there somewhere.

>>152374712
I never said it wasn't an Alpha, I said it was an early access game.
It stopped being a strictly testing thing when they released the PTU.

Not saying the game is base-line fully fleshed out and now they are adding content (well they are almost at that stage desu) but we definitely aren't in the 'technical test' stages anymore.

>>152374923
>dat brown chink

>>152375254
whoops, meant to quote >>152374490
first

>>152375254
We are definitely still at technical test. Until networking is fixed and more than one solar system is implemented.

>>152375254
>>152375402
Thanks.

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I want to open a organization in which only people with black female characters are allowed. Our goal is to kill them silly white boys and those that our cute get enslaved and used as sex fuck puppets. Who's in?

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>>152375186

>>152375707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR5jufwSqm8

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>>152375664

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>>152375253
>all those shieldless forumdads out there when the patch hits

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>>152375472
Well, I guess that's your opinion.

>>152375664
might have fapped to this if it was fucking coherent

>>152376146
>That movement

Bleh. There's no way to do that without taking away half the control from the player

>>152374970
Well heres to hoping. Honestly they could shit out anything they like at this point and the dads will hate it right up till they stick it in game and then the dads would gobble thier cock and praise them for it being the best thing ever.

>>152372585
desu the stuff you hit would be much worse for wear when it's made of meat and bone

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unnnnngh

>>152377949
UNNNG QUICCC

>>152377949
How did it get launched though? The freelancer didnt move... Is there a reverse?

Went from Type-6 to Anaconda in a single week.

Sothis Longrange Hauling is absolutely crazy.

>>152378631
>is there reverse

Yes.

>>152378631
What get launched?

Dragonfly is space-capable. Its under its own power.

>>152378631
>Is there a reverse?
of course there is...

>>152378802
>>152378817
>>152378781
It just looked a bit weird the way it almost rocketed out in reverse, is all.

>>152378671
Yeah but according to the dads you're literally cheating.

>>152378916
Well the Freelancer was moving away from it too.

>>152378916
It is very fast.

To the anon who said Roberts talked about the game like an early access title, I just sat through his conversation and didn't hear him mention anything about that.

>>152378990
No it wasn't. Thrust and velocity both locked at zero the entire time until he was out.

>>152378942
Good that no one really cares about NEET dads.

>>152378942
It's extra funny because they clearly use it, too. Hypocrites.

>>152379103
Alright then it was just fast.

Why is the star citizen space bike speeder thing so slow? In the demonstration it looks like it caps out at 40m/s in cruise mode. That's literally the slowest vehicle in the game.

>>152379372
It looked like it went faster going in reverse, rather going forward...

>>152378942
They are afraid that that their game will die once most got their ships and people see that this game has nothing going on except getting better and better ships.

>>152379372
Its in Precision flight mode, all ships go that slow.

>About 2 months ago I read here (I thought on the 300 discussion) that the 300 series wouldn't replace these models with a new ship (i.e.Freelancer or Hornet rework); instead that they were (at least toying with the idea) going to bring out "this years model" of the 300 line. In other words, people with existing 300 series keep them and they are now considered classic cars.
I hope this guy is wrong.

>>152379372
40m/s when its in space because its always in Precision mode.

40m/s on the ground because its in ground mode, to avoid you going SANIC probably.

>>152379475
to be fair, over the years fdev have added a lot of things to do to grind for better ships

hopefully they will flesh out the different things they have in place more now but we all know everyone who isn't an apologist dad is basically playing while waiting for star citizen at this point

>>152379720
It would be already neat if the game added a small economy aspect to the game like paying money to send colonists to some deep space star system you surveyed to build a refinery etc. to mine for your (kinda like games like Anno but just in a much smaller scale)

Small things like that would make the game more enjoyable. I hope Star Citizen doesn't blunder (probably will though)

>>152379720
I'm surprised the dads didn't hop on the NMS band wagon. It's pretty much ED lite just with pastel colors and animals

>Same amount of grind
>Same concept of pointless "sandbox" gameplay with no real goal

Maybe they bought it for their wive's sons

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So does anyone else, that isn't a close follower of the game, want Star Citizen to succeed?

It's really odd to me that so many people seem emotionally invested in seeing it fail.

So far I've been pretty impressed with the progress, particularly the 3.0 demo.

Can someone give me the tl;dr of what's new for both ED and SC please ?

>>152379613
That's not going to happen.

300 series is being redesigned because they were made before CIG's ship design process was more refined.

>>152380075
>ED
Ayys and QoL Improvements

>SC
Seamless Plantery Transitions

>>152379986
same

I don't really care but It would be neat if they succeeded and the stuff they showed was actually impressive

>>152380075
updated sc pastebin with patch features for next 3 versions

>>152379986
Personally, I could take it going either way.

If it succeeds, then it might be one of the greatest games ever made and the bar gets raised, devs will shoot for the stars from that point on.

If it fails, the idea of crowd-sourcing takes a massive hit and maybe we stop wildly throwing unregulated money at pipe-dreams and get better quality control and more grounded developers.

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>>152380075

>>152379947
1. It's not called "Elite"
2. pastel colors and animals almost sounds like fun

>>152380243
This.

I really do want an expansive space game like what they're proposing. It's something I've wanted for a long time.

>>152380439
when's that coming out?

>>152379986
I am pretty much like >>152380396
I want it to succeed so I can buy a good game for once but I also want it to fail so I can watch it sink into the abyss of dashed hopes and broken dreams that many games have fallen into these past ten years in the space game genres

it would give me either satisfaction of good game or satisfaction of the disappointment and anguish of many people

either way I would be happy

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>>152370747
>>152370612
You guys ever want to fuck your ship? I do.
All the time.

>>152380752
>wanting to fuck a corvette

absolutely relatable

>>152379986
>It's really odd to me that so many people seem emotionally invested in seeing it fail.

I'm not sure who that would be besides maybe derk smart

I just feel cynical about it and similar projects simply because I've seen them fail over and over again for the last 20+ years I've been playing space games and following their development.

E:D is actually one of the more successful ones.

>>152380706

Unspecified date at the end of the year

>>152379986
>It's really odd to me that so many people seem emotionally invested in seeing it fail.

There's no purpose in spending time arguing with them. The people from /v/, orgposters, smarties, etc. Regardless of what they say and want to believe, the progress for this game continues. I guarantee you with 100% accuracy that all of the shitposters who have adequate PCs will buy and play SC eventually. Even those who got refunds for their game packages will come back when the game is fun, even if they spend the next 3 years shitting on it.

>>152380706
End of year. Late November or early December.

>>152380706
February or March. Anything before then will be mind blowing but please don't count on it.

>>152380989
more like January or February

>>152380972
And Derek will continue shitting on it, even if it came out with every single thing they promised in, he'd still find stuff to nitpick, all the while his own game continuing to be utterly unplayable.

>>152379986
I'd like it to at least partially succeed so my $45 isn't wasted, but it's not like I'm gonna an hero if it fails because I've only spent $45.

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>>152380751
We need more space genre games, not less.

I don't want a failure for SC to sour crowd founding or the space genre.

>>152380851
>E:D is actually one of the more successful ones.
It is, I have issues with E:D though that keep me from getting really hooked on it.

The scale of the galaxy is incredible, but after awhile you realize it's a lot of the same things. It lacks the certain charm of designed of smaller more crafted game maps like pic related.

Another issue I have is with the philosophy of the E:D developers. They seem to want to make my experience in the game to be a second job. I'm not interested in endless grinding just because it's realistic or something.

>>152381108
>>152381143
Isn't 2.5 on time?

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>>152381354
>EnB map

Aw man, why you gotta make me feel these feels man?

>>152381548
lol

sadpanda

>>152381354
>It lacks the certain charm of designed of smaller more crafted game maps like pic related.

Pic related is an example of devs compromising the dream for something that is easier to develop. A valid approach if you want to get shit done I suppose.

The Elite series is the only one that consistently sticks to the insanely huge scope and still manages to be halfway decent games.

>>152381356
The entire 2.X series of updates are off by 4 or 5 months at this point. From an old backer who watched development from Jan 2014, never ever count on their dates. Add large amounts of extra time every single moment they make an estimate. Don't believe them until it's in our hands.

>>152381108

When they promise an end of year update then they deliver an end of year update, even if it is a PTU-only bugfest on December 19th.

From PTU to live is normally only a week or two, so I'd expect 3.0 to be live by mid January at the latest.

>>152380972
Unfortunately some shitposters seem to have an effect on many people who have no knowledge of the game

>Saw a post in which someone thought the game had dried up funding and was dead
>Was surprised it was still alive and asking how to pre order

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Anyone else realize how ingenius CIG is with developing AC/SM as a "game-within-a-game"? It provides a way to pass the time in a genre that has proven (with E:D and NMS) that you can't play a massive universe space sim without a lot of downtime.

>Traveling from to the outer edge of a star system at the relatively slow pace of 0.2c? Play a round of Arena Commander.
>Waiting for the cargo to be loaded onto your ship in a excruciatingly slow manual process because "fidelity"? Play a few rounds of Star Marine.
>Trying to finish a lap on a race course in an Aurora? Fuck that, you can just use your virtual 350r to experience what it's like to not be poor and finish a race in the time it takes for your Aurora to get to the next ring.

It seems like such an obvious solution to downtime in sim games I'm surprised no one has thought of it before.

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>>152382593
>When they promise an end of year update then they deliver an end of year update

found the newfag. I don't want to waste my time explaining missed their promised release schedules, but know that they're never met/early. Considering their track record, you're going to be disappointed. I could be wrong (hopefully I am t bh) but over the last few years adding time to release dates has proven effective.

>>152382663
Their opinions still don't matter. The community is 1.5mil strong with around 120mil in pure crowdfunding, which isn't stopping anytime soon. When the game finally becomes more fun than it is testing, the shtiposters will either: pointlessly continue, in which they're left out of the fun that SC will be, or they get their game package and join us. We have enough people to populate the game (+ the advanced AI) and we have enough money to complete the game, and both of those numbers will increase with time as they already have/ are. Let them be salty all they want. Like I said earlier, the progress continues with or without them, so I really don't give a damn what they think, and neither should anyone else since their angry rants change nothing.

>>152383363
I already did that in EVE, set destination then alt tab and play WoW on second monitor

>>152371713
Elite ships have ridiculous armor and heat radiators, to the point they can survive impacts with each other at hundreds of m/s (ramming is a viable and effective combat tactic in several ships), and fly through the atmosphere of a star for extended periods.

>>152383558
this, except i would mine while playing a dozen idle games and masturbating

>>152383363
>>152383558
WoW has a peggle addon for flight paths and shit

I eventually just stopped playing the game and just played peggle just

>>152383889
The proper way to mine.

>>152381354
>>152381548
>look it up
>MMO
Oh well.

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>>152383387

A truly uncompromising vision

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>>152381548
>Aw man, why you gotta make me feel these feels man?
I know that feel.

E&B was my first MMO and space game in general. It really shaped my expectations from that point on.

It's also why I despise grinding in MMOs and E:D.

>>152381749
I think you're missing my point.

I'm saying E:D makes me see the value of quality over quantity.

E:D has many star systems, but they're all mostly the same in how you interact them. Of course they're quite beautiful and expansive in scale and quantity, but they always have the same features.

Crafted universes like in E&B or other games can have more unique features like in your typical fantasy setting. The way you travel through the game universe also shapes your perception of it too.

Earth & Beyond for example had several ways of traversing the galaxy. Each class had a sector with gates only members of that class could use that led from moons in Sol to far ends of the galaxy (seen on this map).

If you had good reputations with the pirates you could use their faction-locked gates to enter their secret sector which counted four distant ends of the galaxy.

One class had a unique wormhole skill that let them teleport to any of 6 destinations no matter where they were at the time. A popular activity was for members of this class to sell Wormhole trips from Saturn to Valkyrie Twins and vice versa. It's because this was part of a popular trade route. I did it myself.

So yes while the universe was much smaller its size also meant it also had more charm and never felt empty.

>>152384192
Shut down in 2004.

There is however an emulator project that started years ago. I'm not sure how many people play it now: https://www.net-7.org/

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What weapons should I put on my dad mobile?

>>152385609
good ones

>>152385609
small beams, medium multis, all gimballed

that or small beams and pack hounds

>>152383387
To be fair, they were on time with 2.0 in December. The one and only instance of them being on-time AFAIK, but it happened.

>>152385609
>tfw i cant change my hud colors
I dont know why
Whatever i do it just doesnt work

>>152386063
same

>>152386063
I tried others but default orange seemed to work best. I don't want orange.

>E&B
Who /jove/ here
Explorer ships were boss as fuck with their warp animations.

Where were you when the >Asp became the greatest ship in the game?

>>152386651
Progen Warrior and Jenquai Explorer were the two classes I played the most.

>>152384467
>I think you're missing my point.
No, I understood perfectly.

Games with "small" universes simply don't interest me. They are not in the same subgenre with the truly massive space games that Elite represents.

>>152387502
The distant future?

>>152387738
>Games with small universes simply don't interest me

So you play a single video game.

>>152387978
Should have specified, "space games"

I can play non-space themed games because I don't take them as autistically seriously.

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>>152387502
When it penetrated the barrier between universes to enter Star Citizen.

>muh realism
>ship transfer is now instant

So what are the forumdads gonna do?

>>152388220
lewd

>>152388348
Bitch on the forums and start polls to get it changed. Oh wait, they're already doing that.

>>152388348
Petition FD to get rid of FSD.

>>152388348
>muh realism
has never been an argument

>ship crashes, character dies
>have to buy the game again

>>152388348
see
>>152370948

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>>152388493
You probably won't be surprised to hear there is a hardcore subset of dads who play self-imposed iron man by deleting their save every time they die

>>152388828
EVE is the worst for forumdads, just go on the reddit for it. Because the 24 y/os who played it in 2003 are now 40 all they do is complain about the good old days and put shit tons of money into ISK and PLEX.

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Which community is worse?

SC or E:D?

>>152390101
>reddit

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>>152390101

>>152390101
this is some high level autism

So im trying ED out again... how does a newer player find legal ship combat?

>>152390624
save yourself and uninstall.

>>152390101

Dads

>>152390101
>people still arguing for player character stats/skills despite it being a fundamental aspect of the game that stats only come from gear/ships/items

LOL

Who was alluran? I recognise the name...

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>>152390101
oh boy oh boy is it that time again?

>>152390671
Dont worry, not going to get sucked in. People praise the combat in this game so i wanted to test it out a little more.

>>152388449

>they're turning on FD

I actually thought they'd defend it fully and end up showing their hypocrisy even more.

>>152390787
>People praise the combat in this game so i wanted to test it out a little more.

I find that questionable at best.

Its very arcade.

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If this wasn't just made for the show, large ship destruction is going to be baller

>>152390950
Probably a little of both

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I asked in some thread ago about a missile build for BH and some anon told me to grind for a courier
Now i have the courier, how do i make a missile build with it?

>>152391061
The center has whatever you want, maybe a laser to take out shields faster, then 2 packhounds on the sides.

>>152390950
we don't know if that wreck is part of the damage modelling or hand crafted for the scenario.

I think it was the latter.

>>152390726
I remembered, he made the holoxplor app thing for fixing loadouts without having to fuck with the disaster that was the holotable

>>152390950
I assume it's both made for the show and as an early version of a wreck that can spawn in the PU for salvaging/exploring/as part of a quest. Pretty sure that normal ships won't end up like that in combat.

>>152391221
thanks kind anon
any good laser i should priority over the others?

>>152390950
They're going pretty ham on damage, I guess they want it to be a big selling point and have quests for it work easily

https://youtu.be/ZNV-Y5hauZ0?t=1193

>>152390101
Star Citizen

>>152390101
Star citizen has the worse community, but ED's is more damaging to the game.

>>152390950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10TAH5LVCow

>>152391405
fixed beam

alternatively, use a MC for the true jet fighter experience

>>152390950
I'm pretty sure that's part of random salvage quests that can show up. Salvage the black box from a wrecked ship, etc.

>>152391882
this 100%

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>CIG releases a gameplay demo with massive promises and implications that all of the game's problems will disappear and it will become great soon
>Promise that this god patch is right around the corner but in the meantime here are some ships to buy to take your mind off the shitty tech demo you have at the moment
>Fans feel vindicated and brag about how the detractors got rekt
>Hype train goes out of control through the end of the year sale as DREAMS happen
>Eventually a bug ridden, unplayable barebones version of what was promised is shat out after inevitable delays
>Radio silence from CIG for a year outside of the monthly sale of the latest and greatest jpeg
>Discontent among the fandom begins to forment and outside detractors tear into the game even harder
>CIG releases a gameplay demo with massive promises and implications that all of the game's problems will disappear and it will become great soon
>...

This has all happened before and will happen again.

I call it the Star Citizen cycle.

>buy medium cannon for shits and giggles
>it rips serious ass

why did I never see you guys talking about fooken cannons just MCs? That shit is bomb. Only 100 ammo but I just bagged 800k bounties and still have 50 rounds left. Only use that shit when their shields are down

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>>152391882
Correct.

>>152390101
>>152390734
this is some next level shit jesus christ

>>152392304
(You)

>>152392407
Not this faggot again

>>152392325
Because nobody plays anymore. /edg/ is just a place for us to grieve over what the game could have been, and REE at forumdads while we die of old age waiting for SC.

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>>152392407
can't wait to hunt admiral dog and his ai javelins

>>152392035
I'll try going for a BRRT, might switch to a laser if i find it uneffective

>>152392998
furries ruin everything

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>>152392864

I think they're back

gg, thread

>>152392304
Autism.

>>152392998
Lizardman vanduuls not enough antro, huh?

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>>152392864
=CLASSIFIED=

=FOR YOUR EYES ONLY=

>>152393496
>piracy is a tax
time to sue my local goverment for piracy

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>>152392998

Can they have their own instance and Yiff themselves into a supernova?

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>>152392864

>>152394054
>taxes are piracy
Fxd

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Sharing E:D dadtism:

https://imgur.com/a/5IQf0

>>152392304
>jpeg
>cycle

obvious goon is obvious
i know ur memes cheeky lad

>>152393496
Oh God dammit.

On the one hand I want to be a trader, carrying goods, joining a convoy all that.

But I also want to fuck up shit heads like this.

Maybe I can work on the treasure ship of a pirate band, get the best of both worlds..

Currently trying to decide between a viper mk4 and a DVD for bounty hunting with three friends in eagles. I was thinking of a gunship kind of build for when the guys drop the target shields. I've read about how much better the DNS is at everything, but rule of cool demands the viper. What do?

>>152394353
I am torn on whether it would be satisfying to harass them as pirates in game or if that would just encourage them.

>>152394502
DBS. Viper mk4 is a gimped pile of crap.

>>152394470
Pirate fighters will want someone to carry the loot yeah

Might as well be a hauler that watches shit explode

>>152394502
DBS for both of those, jesus autocorrect

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>>152392304

>>152391061

are missiles even viable?

I'm rolling pulse laser/cannon and its pretty good

>>152394502
viper mk.IV is useless

>>152394448
>Needs to hang his arms out to the side and up just to use the HOTAS

Fucking retard has never seen a cockpit before I see.

>>152394804
missiles are great

pack hounds are god tier

>>152394873
Maybe he's flying a harley

How long until Jaques station offers super smuggling/shipping missions and becomes ultra Sothis/Ceos

>>152394804
I just like the idea of firing loadsamissle agaisnt shit
Can't get the Hound Pack since i'm not pledged to the dumb powerplay shit

>>152393496
I'm always shocked that the people with the edgiest avatars are always the cariest of carebears.

>>152395113
Never. There's already diminishing returns the higher you go in tonnage, sure it works the same in distance.

>>152394653
I really want player piracy to be a thing, for groups to join up and decide that the best way to make money is to attack other players, because them doing that can stimulate all manner of other things in the game. Hiring security groups, making certain places more difficult, and thus more profitable, to go through for goods, making the game a little more dynamic in that you don't really know if someone is going to double cross you or not.

>>152395012

but is there enough missiles for a stay in RES?

I also would enjoy firing loadsamissiles but gotta keep up the grind man

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>>152395595
Can we just skip the middleman and turn this into Crimson Skies in space?

>>152395595
Just gank orions and prospectors in asteroid belts.

>>152395113

Never. Even if it offered missions in the billion-tier it would still be beat cr/hr by Sothis. Even if they ramped up the income so high it could compete per hour, non-autistics still wouldn't prefer it. A 70m Sothis run takes an hour. Getting to Jacques takes days.

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>>152395595
We are going to wait for a few things to make piracy in SC viable as an actual career rather than just shooting ships indiscriminately like we do now.

1: actual cargo with missions for that cargo
2: a way to stop ships without exploding them
3: a place to sell the stolen goods
4: group mechanics/larger playercount with some basic AI (so it's not fucking empty)
4.5: good netcode so that it's not a hassle.

Without these, piracy is simply just killing other ships. If CIG is to be believed, we should have most of these within the next 4 - 6 months or so.

>>152395872
not really

missile lady is your friend

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>>152395595

You want organized crime, that's what everybody wants. Profitability is the main concern with that group and results in cool interactions and agreements between different factions... but then there are people who just want to shit on everything.

>>152395936

Our little group is going to try piracy first, and I'm expecting Starfarers to be our bread and butter.

Big ship, obvious engines, only really dangerous in one direction. Lots of entry points.

The dream is to steal something like a Carrack or even one of the Capital ships, but they are going to be a lot harder to disable.

>>152395936
looting an orion sounds like a massive pain in the dick compared to freelancers and whatever the fuck heralds carry

>>152396638
>but then there are people who just want to shit on everything.

This is what's going to make organizational play so much fun. The backstabbing, the bad blood and wars, the lying, stealing, and all around evil shit is going to make organizations to die for. Literally and figuratively.

I want to crush the skulls of carebears so bad.

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WHEN

WHHHEEEENNNN

>>152396835
>wanting more space planes

>>152394470
>On the one hand I want to be a trader, carrying goods, joining a convoy all that.
>But I also want to fuck up shit heads like this.

Just play Elite. For the carebears there just manipulating the background sim so their favorite trade route dries up constitutes as griefing.

>>152396835

All they need to do is change the turret to a SH-style remote one and make the gunner a copilot with turret control, torpedo control and some shield/power control.

It would still be too small but it would be a big step in the right direction.

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https://youtu.be/ZNV-Y5hauZ0?t=1185

Nice Halo music shitters

>>152396569
>a way to stop ships without exploding them

That presents a interesting problem, weather you disable a ship with your regular pew pew or LTL ones a dead in the water ship will still maintain is momentum, making it unbordable.
The way I see it is we will also need either electronic warfare, to tell the ship to stop or tractor beams.

>>152397043
Gladiator has been flight ready for more than a year, dad.

>>152396569
>a way to stop ships without exploding them
Emp ships like avengers and vanguards.

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>>152396835
>rocketpods

my motherfucking nigger!

I hate missiles on these fighters. They're shit. I want S1 - 3 rocket pods available as a substitution for missile pylons but the devs haven't made or implemented them yet.

>Gladius/Gladiator/Freelancer MIS with all exterior missiles replaced by rocket pods of equal size rating

Strafing large ships and dogfighting with that would make me jizz

>>152397043
Do you even know what he's talking about?

>>152370948

>Toumal

wew lad

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>>152396741
my group is sort of a free for all thing with different interests, but we all decided that if any of us stumbles upon a derelict Bengal we'll all get online, repair the thing then escort it and crash it into something really important.

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>>152396741

>Big ship, obvious engines, only really dangerous in one direction. Lots of entry points.

And one of their main features is floating aimlessly into lawless space, alone and tits up.

>>152395940
I would do it once, if the price was comparable, but only once, and only for the exploration shit for Palin.

Hey, speaking of, how do I acquire UFs? I heard something about anaconda wrecks, but Google gave me nothing useful.

>>152397174
I'm thinking that tractor beams would be the key. Although, requiring something like that complicates the fuck out of stealing ships.

>>152397350
But the ships keep their momentum

>>152397429
>they think that doing all of that shit is feasible or will be as easy as 1, 2, 3.

Ganking with reclaimer!

>>152397450

What do you want me to do, rob people who aren't retarded?

That shit's dangerous.

>>152397887
I'd hope there'd be several things for such tasks.
From a lowly harpoon to slow down ships and incapacitate them to a tractor beam to capture ships relatively unmolested.

>>152398021
I want to dismantle a ship inside my bay, pilot included.

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Well /scg/ (and by extension, /edg/), do you?

>>152398348

I am really better off not knowing the context behind any of this. Let's just not.

>>152398118
pretty sure we've already got the tools. Avenger with EMP boosts into convoy takes out itself, the cargo hauler, and it's escort.

Your pirate friends then boost in from their hiding spot outside of the EMP's range, incapacitate the ships and steal the loot.

>>152397429

>if any of us stumbles upon a derelict Bengal we'll all get online, repair the thing then escort it and crash it into something really important.

IF and by the time you're able to repair and man said bengal you'll probably start reconsidering your lifes choices. Maybe buy a boat.

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>>152398348
Here's some pro inspiration for the shooping fetish you guys have

Last I checked here was like half a year ago or so. Where are all the >scam citizen meme arrows?

>>152396569
>>152397174
>>152397887

Lads you can just shoot big ships then loot them, it's fighters that poof into nuts and bolts

>>152399505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucYhhLwIxg

This stopped it for a week or so

>>152399630
The final damage model will be based on component damage which you might want to steal. Also entirely possible for you to blow great big holes in the cargo.

>>152399505
They come around every once in a while. Most have luckily stopped caring when the thread was dead for months. Others stay on /v/, but I've noticed a drastic decrease in the amount of /v/fags who scampost in their own threads about SC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l-epO6oUHE
watch this if you haven't.

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>>152399460

>>152390101

>implying suburb dwellers are incapable of wearing helmets for extended periods of time

>>152399826
yeah you've lost me there, most of us don't follow this game as intently as you guys do

>>152399826
omg why was he in the hospital?

>>152399935
Ben's responsible for a lot of the shitty decisions and terrible PR.

Only thing he's ever done well is telling the goons to fuck off

>>152399906
I guess he means being in a vacuum for that long

rp over gameplay needs to be flushed down the cutlass toilet though

>>152399826
>bringing him fucking donuts

God damn enablers.

>>152399505
They're on /v/.

>>>/v/349080964

>>152397665

>Hey, speaking of, how do I acquire UFs?

You can find guides via google. From what I can remember, UAs will spawn in USSs found in a 100LY~ radius from Merope. They'll be marked with something like "Anomaly: Threat level 4". Drop in, shoot UA, scoop fragments.


>heard something about anaconda wrecks

Removed, according to various forum posts.

Are there any plans to overhaul the sound effects for weapons? They don't dazzle me at all.

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>>152398348

As opposed to what? Standing with cancer incarnate? You tell me.

>>152400181
>God damn enablers.

Implying they weren't hoping to finish the job

Took my courier against a NPC deadly cobra and lost like a fucker, didn't even manage to down his shield
I was using two seeker missile racks and a fixed multicannon
what the fuck did i do wrong?

>>152399985

blood infection

>>152400198
>removed

ffffffuck. Thanks anyways. Time to grind.

>>152374337
the project was never in doubt, unless you get all your info from /v/

>>152390734
this one's pretty good tho

>>152400230

WIP. It's a common complaint. Hammer it long enough and they'll address it eventually.

>>152400751
How in the fuck is that meant to work in actual gameplay?

>wtf why did you shoot me I was only pretending to go for my gun to increase tension

>>152371308
elite isn't shit ;__;

>>152379196
>>152379103
I believe a major value of the dragonfly is it's extreme acceleration, though it's top speed is low

>>152370868
search for "png", some mouthbreather made a shitty thread

>>152379372
I think it was in the compressed/compact mode that only allows the maneuvering speeds?

>No man's sky basically dead in a week

kek

>>152402650
Nothing to do, man. More nothing than E:D. Which is saying something.

>>152402924
Just imagine the mods if E:D hadn't included the always online DRM...

So what was that 'gateway' for in low Levski orbit?

They said you can fly around and land anywhere so why did they go through it?

You think it might be for more busier planets as a sort of 'checkpoint'? Like I doubt you could land anywhere in earth so perhaps you have to use those gates to enter an on-rails segment while landing

>>152403157
might b security shit so they can scan ur butthole

>>152403157
Just cargo scanner that allows you to land in dock.

>>152403157
pretty sure it's a scanner, we see something similar in the Freelancer commercial, don't we?

>>152402924
At least ED has shit to work towards. Ranks and Ships. Though that's not saying much.

>>152403998
Also ED actually has gameplay.

Can we please stop bantering each other? let's just hate developers together

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Even this game has better planets lol

>>152404360
The ship combat is p. fun. Shame about the literally everything else.

>>152404360
That too. ED just needs content, that and a lot of fixing. NMS has neither gameplay nor content and lots of bugs.

>>152404513
No one's made, calm down man.

>>152390837
Now if only they did it for something important. ED is already riddled with immersion-breaking, unrealistic shit. There is no reason to keep the game mediocre in the name of >muh realism.

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

>>152397154
>disparaging the work of Marty O'Donnell
even if you hate halo you must admit the music is grand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dG_hbVoqCo

>>152400181
the donuts were shooped in

is this new shit on the ED youtube channel like port variants going to be available in the base game?

which things are horizon only?

>>152395872
It's not hard to spend like 20 minutes farming up the mats for a shit-load of missile synthesis. Also there's the high-capacity missile mod from Mrs. Missiles

is ED a fun game?
like stuff to do ?
dont care if its grindy

>>152406246
Port variant should be base game. Passenger missions (I think) ship launched fighters will be horizons. This whole horizons base game thing is retarded.

>>152406340
It's comfy fun

now that SC has ground locations and you can fire on pedestrians with a spaceship, what are the chances we really get "muh space A-10" close air support spaceship? also do you think they'll add anti-air or SAMs?

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>>152406852
We already have S5 brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt