/fog/ - Fallout General

Anyone have any advice for a melee character?

I don't care if it's melee or unarmed, and I can't decide between going for a drunken brawler with Party Boy, or investing heavily in luck/agility for VATS stuff.

post your headcanon
X6 stays with the SS after the Institute is destroyed. Eventually he learns to stop being such a dick and hooks up with Curie

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Besides the Basher perks what can I use to increase bashing damage? Would the weighted arm mod affect it?
I want to bayonet motherfucks

>>152362460
>DLC's and updates constantly killing mods
>restarted several times never even beat the game
>Go to do Far Harbor, Vault shop comes out and breaks my shit again
>Say fuck it, I'll wait to play when the games finished

Recommend me some NV mods while I wait.

>>152362842
A guy I know made a quest/companion mod called Strangers Abroad. I thought it was pretty good although I'm sure it probably breaks the lore in some way because the companion is a Britbong.

So was Gage in one of the gangs or was he just the Overboss's Lieutenant? Was the Overboss guy in a gang?

>>152363137
You seem to have missed the point of the Overboss. They're an intermediary for the three gangs.

>>152363412
Ah i havent played Nuka-World yet, thanks for clearing that up

>>152362693
The minigun shredder is one of the better melee weapons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYys3O_zyz0

Post operators operating in an operational environment

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>>152364665

>>152362693

Low levels are much tougher than higher levels. It'll be hard for you to get the rhythm of blocking, but you'll get the hang of it eventually. You can trigger a special animation by double-tapping the key when attacking a human opponent; I recommend doing this because these animations seem to override an enemy's block. But be careful, because an enemy's execution move can also ignore your block!

>>152364828
I want a SCAR-17S so bad.

I am playing an explosives character on New Vegas Ultimate Edition. First time I've really used explosives. What are some good explosives I can craft? What materials should I be gathering?

>>152364828
>>152364665
Why is /k/ one of the worst boards?

Yo /fog/, I never had a companion, well except Dogmeat, in Fallout 1 and was wondering if companions need ammo in the second game. Of course with a weapon I've given them.

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>>152362743
Oh boy here we go...
>Nat is Piper's Daughter
>Sarah Lyons faked her death
>Legate Lanius' suit is Power Armor
>Vulpes Inculta is a Synth
>Most, if not all, of the Institute's "technological breakthroughs" were co-opted from a pre-war source. The Molecular Relay was either stolen from the Zetans or a damaged Big MT probe, Bioscience's research into rad immune vegetation was made possible through GECK, the Synth Fabricator is basically a jury-rigged Auto Doc that prints people, Gen I/II Synths are streamlined Assaultrons, etc.
>The Institute had once created groups of reproductive-capable Gen III Synths to help repopulate with science staff in the event of disease outbreak/total underground societal collapse. Members of this group included A2-31 (Harkness, once cited as an "advanced prototype" by Zimmer), G5-19 (Curie's body) and M7-97 (Danse)
>The Synth!Shaun you were given at the end of the MQ was patched with all the extra organic bits to make him a real boy. He grows up to travel with the SS, and eventually gets with Nat
>The Children of Atom were formed by survivors of the Children of the Cathedral. Where they once believed in the Dark God that would lead them to Unity, after the Cathedrals destruction they came to worship the power of Atom in the hope he will lead them to Division.
>The Gunners are the functional descendants of the National Guard units that existed in and around Boston, it'd be cool to have their upper leadership actually be a small group of Enclave officers and troops, running things from the shadows.

What the fuck did I miss, why does /cfog/ exist. What made you guys split in two?

>>152365682
Plain and simple autism.

>>152365596

Yes, they do. If they come equipped with a weapon, they need ammo for it too.

>>152365682
No fucking clue.
Fallout 2 and New Vegas are my favorites, but the whole new Fallout thread was so fucking retarded. I don't know what they're bitching about, I usually get some classic Fallout discussion in here at times.

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Post ur waifus or prepare to get nothing personnel'd, kid.

>>152365170
Weaponsmith extended includes a FN SCAR-H fully modular, but the character holding it animation leavs much to be desired...

>>152365682
There have been regular New Vegas threads in /v/ for a while. And by "regular" I mean "constant, with links to the previous thread". It was functionally a containment general, because Bethbabbies and Obsidbabbies refuse to get along. I hear mods moved it to /vg/ one day, and so it's been here ever since.

>>152365931
I mean a real one.

>>152365682
/cfog/ is mostly a result of so many people talking about New Vegas

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>tfw just wiped out the nuka world raiders with best girl Ada
JUSTICE
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so is there a new companion in nuka world?

>>152366965
Gage, male raider.

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>>152366965
Porter Gage.

Max Affinity Perk: +5% Kill Experience, +10 Damage Resistance.

>>152367129
Goddamn, that is the face of a broken man. Solid screenshot.

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so far, 2 areas for operators 1 for disciples 1 for tribal, but I am gonna give tribal the zoo which is the last one, what will I lose without splitting the loot this way?

>>152362693
melee has more and far better weapons.

Also blitz is your friend and party boy is also your friend alongside chemist and chem resistance because you want to pump up your strength as much as possible.

>>152367125
>>152367129
aw fuck
bland as fuck companion
does he at least have a funny accent

>>152367706
He's actually one of the more enjoyable companions to have around.

>>152367706
No
Also he dislikes it if you take drugs apparently

>>152367793
>>152367864
guess i shouldn't judge a book by it's cover
thanks /fog/gots

>>152362842
TTW

>>152367864
I'm pretty sure that dislike is a bug.

>>152364424
you can 1 or 2 shot swan at level 21 with crit melee stealth though

>>152368215
He doesn't seem to care about jet at least.

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>more mutated animals called Rad-animal-

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>>152365624
>He grows up to travel with the SS, and eventually gets with Nat
I choose to believe this too. And also
>Nate was friends with Elliott Tercorien (from MZ) in the army
>Minutemen victory is canon
>Once the Institute is gone Nate throws himself into the role of General
>Vault 88 becomes the Minutemen's main R&D facility. Curie becomes Chief Scientist, and Barstow becomes Assistant Chief
>Sturges becomes Chief Engineer, Isabel is Assistant Chief
>Vault Tec Rep becomes Chief Administrator, Sheffield becomes Chief Provisioner
>Preston and Ronnie are 2nd and 3rd in command respectively
>Danse is given command of the most elite MM unit consisting of Cait, MacCready, Strong, X6, and Ada
>Longfellow acts as commander of the Far Harbor detachment
>Jezebel becomes the Minutemen version of PAM
>I'm sure I'll contrive some insane reason for Gage to become a Minutemen officer too
>Piper has unrequited feelings for Nate, who never loves again after Nora's death
>Years after the end of the game Nate launches an attempt to reform the CPG. The Minutemen are absorbed into it as the military branch, and they grow into an NCR-tier nation.

>>152368215
Just because he is a raider does not mean he is a degenerate as well.

>>152368190
I'd like TTW more if I could start in NV instead of F3. Might just reinstall it and say fuck it.

>>152365624
>>Vulpes Inculta is a Synth
How and why?

>>152368215
It's not, he explains it. He says that drugs dull your senses and make you less effective and only chumps use them.

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>more giant bugs

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>Can't build cages/inhibitors in Vault 88
Goddamn it, I wanted to make an animal testing lab, maybe have some deathclaws patrol the caves. Although in hindsight I guess it's like that so you don't just make all the monsters in the caves friendly. Still, could at least let me build them after the caves are totally cleared.

>>152368431
You can. If it's not in the main TTW (I can't remember if they put it in) there's an official mod that lets you do it.

Naturally it fucks up their jury-rigged story about LW traveling west to become the Courier, but whatever

Hello!

Did I just stumble upon an unrepeatble bug? Or has someone else managed to merge two conveyor belt lifts into one so it can be served by two or more manufacturing machines?

>>152365624
I've been wanting to make a mod centered around the gunners and making them more a faction instead of just Raiders+ but I'm not quite sure about everything.

Being descendants of the Massachusetts National Guard and secretly lead by the Enclave sounds like a great idea.

I probably won't be making anything for a while though and instead work on minor mods first because I'm a dumbfuck who has never made a mod before, but I'd love to learn eventually.

>>152368696
>animal testing


suuuure

>>152362743
The SS encourages every settlement to field a baseball team.
The WRVR radio station is brought to full functionality.A 50,000 watt transmitter can be picked up in Penn from Boston.
Moe Cronin becomes the radio play by play guy.

This leads to baseball being brought back to unite the North East and fulfilling John Henry Eden's dream.

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>>152368254
The shredder doesn't need stealth, can cause criticals without VATS, staggers, cripples and if you have Big Leagues, gains a disarm chance.

I should not need to sell you on the chainsaw dick. I bet you only have a ripper.

>>152369084
what else would I be doing?

>>152368473

Not him, but I can see it. He's skilled at infiltration, and I think Caesar says his frumentarii are all skilled warriors as well. Being one of the replace-some-wasteland-fuck-for-kicks synths that went rogue would provide an aptitude for both.

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Anyone figure out what happens if you give all the parks to 1 faction? can you even do that? do the other two turn on you as well?

>>152369770
It doesn't really make sense logistically though. How would the Institute even know what's going on in Nevada, much less manage kidnap someone and replace them

>>152369785
yes

>>152369225
muh dick

>>152369785
Are you trying to oppress me?

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Rate the nuka gangs

>>152369906
Not aligned with the Institute, just a rogue Synth.

>>152369906
I think he means more that he was in the Commonwealth, went rogue, and then went west of his own free will.

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>>152368473
Robot eyes

>>152370426
operators : no fun/10
the pack : communal litter-box/10
disciples : running with scissors/10

>>152370426
>Operators
>Sexy Edgelords
>le Pack

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>tfw you get to the point where you've got so much ammo, money and stims that you don't even bother picking up loot anymore
>can 1HKO most enemies with my weapons/perks
>all settlements in the green and built the way I like them so I don't need junk items
>just walk into a place, shoot everything, and leave, the only things I bother collecting are magazines and bobbleheads

>>152362085

>why the fuck cait looks like sakura, the useless ninja bitch

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Is there a hidden cache of tickets somewhere or do they really expect me to play the shooting gallery 90 times?

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>Lmaooooooooo
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/17570/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_19f9vELXmM

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>>152364665
>>152364828
>>152365315
B I G
B L A C K
G U N

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Should I put Buddy at my personal fort in Sanctuary, my seaside lounge in front of the castle, or Partytown, Spectacle Island?

>>152370426
Operators: Boring as fuck
The Pack: Basically Joker's gang but animal themed
Disciples: Ultimate edgelords

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>>152366697
>>152365682

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>>152362743
>Mister House was part of the Enclave. He was planning to use their facilities to bring Mankind back to the space-age. (and colonies)

>The Bright Brotherhood had the same target. Jason Bright was a Politican involved in the US's space-plans. The Radiation screwed a bit with his memory. This is why he knew where the REPCONN facility was and its purpose.

>Germany was selling licensed 9mm Pistols and Gauss Rifles to both sides of the War.

>The Oceans are full of kaiju-like beasts. Once a while a ship from the old World reaches the Coast. This is how Vadim and Tenpenny came to the Country.

>No-bark Noonan was part of the Enclave. This explains his knowledge about old-world politics and creatures that are not native to the Mojave.
>>152365624
Nah, i think the Gunners are descendants of the original Vault 75 dwellers.

>>152373445
>Germany was selling licensed 9mm Pistols and Gauss Rifles to both sides of the War.
Germany was a wartorn shithole because of the Resource Wars, all of Europe was actually.

>>152362743

James (as in, the Lone Wanderer's dad) was a rogue Enclave scientist.

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>>152362743

>Nora was in the military originally, that's how she met Nate, she only left and 'dusted off her law degree' after she got pregnant and got discharged
>Doctor Madison Li is an Enclave agent. She killed your mother to delay Project Purity, she sent you to the Lincoln Memorial which was full of Super Mutants, she let the Enclave know when you were out of the way, she let them know where the GECK was, she only helped the Brotherhood build Liberty Prime because she felt Colonel Autumn had turned against Eden, who she personally had a hand in programming originally. Naturally after everything falling apart in the Capital Wasteland, she headed north to get in with the Institute, whom she had already been in contact with via Zimmer.

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>>152376113
he is either from the enclave,a Vault or the MIT, there aren't much options.

Remember the Picture of him and his wive they accidentally put in a vault in New vegas? in my headcannon thats the proof.

>>152368481
desu wish he just disliked it if you got addicted. Get his logic but the occasional combat drug can make all the difference. Why do so many companions hate drugs?

Saw a screenshot where you can build an improved fusion core that costs 100 nuclear material to build.

Is it part of the expansion or a mod?
What stats does the core have?

If I leave the beta Nuka-World files installed, will they automatically be replaced when the release version comes out?

>>152377370
Mod

voiced mcs means backstory set in stone means no alternate start mods

goddamnit why did voiced mcs happen

>>152378445
>goddamnit why did voiced mcs happen
Bethesda is retarded and wanted to appeal to a wider audience so they did something that a wider audience couldn't care less about and would only serve to piss off their current fans.

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RIP in peace, Harambe.

>>152378445

We knew this would put heavy limitations on things as soon as it was announced. For instance, most companions have zero dialogue when it comes to Far Harbour, Automatron or Nuka World.

Fallout: New Vegas >>> Fallout 3 > """"Fallout"""" 4

>>152377372
No, you'll have two instances of Nuka World and it could potentially seriously fuck up your game.
That is unless its an official beta key.

>>152379434
Fallout 3 did nothing well, Fallout 4 at least did the gameplay okay.

>>152379434
>F3 > F4
kys, my man.

>>152379434
2>NV>1>4>3

And all of them are good games

>tfw Bethesda will never take Fallout seriously and will just use it as an engine test for Elder Scrolls
>tfw we will never get a good Fallout game ever again
>tfw the only good 3D Fallout game has tons of missing content that will never see the light of day

>>152379907
>>152380023
Fallout 3 had a better weapon pool, better locations, no retarded dialogue wheel or voiced character, and actually had skills.

>>152380027
>4
>good

>>152379907
Gameplay is at the very bottom of priority for Fallout.

>>152380027
2, NV and 1 are, yes.
3 and 4? No.

>>152365914
How many times are you going to post this?
its pretty sad at this point.

>>152380239
>gameplay is at the very bottom of priority for games

That's fucking retarded.

>>152379907
>gameplay is combat
Is that what you're saying? This meme needs to die. Gameplay is so much more than combat, it's literally the entirety of the game, including RP elements, location/level design, loot, crafting, and yes, combat. The only thing Fallout 4 does good is combat and that's only because we're used to the combat from 3 and NV were the character fights like he has a stick up his ass.

>>152380239
A turd with a strawberry on top is more edible than a plain turd.

>>152380226
>Better locations
No it didn't, the whole Capital Wasteland was a fucking bore, and one of the few video games I've never completed alongside GTA4 because it was that dull.

>no retarded dialogue wheel or voiced character
And as can be seen by Fallout 3, even without a voiced character the dialogue is still fucking stupid

>SO YOU FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT
>EDEN, THIS IS WRONG AND YOU SHOULD LITERALLY JUST KILL YOURSELF

>>152379361
i know, i've been saying this since it was announced, it seemed like a harmless gimmick at first and then i realized what it would mean for quest trees and then suddenly it became the root of all problems with the game.

if they wanted a FPS that told the story of Nate who survived the war, they should have just forced you to be Nate. why pretend you can roleplay?

>>152380023
>Fallout 3 had a better weapon pool
Most of the weapons in Fallout 3 were useless though. In fallout 4, many weapons can be made feasible. You would have made a better arguement saying that legendary weapons are lazy and forgettable as hell.
>better locations
Opinion.
>no retarded dialogue wheel or voiced character
But it was still written atrociously and was entirely forgettable.
>had skills
But that doesn't adversely affect the gameplay for Fallout 4 because they were compensated for (albeit, clumsily). It's only crime is that it's not what (you) wanted.

>>152380693
>backstory is mostly set
>that means you can't roleplay
It was stupid when this argument was first made and it's still stupid now.

Where do I get some decent armor at level 25?

>>152380934
>Most of the weapons in Fallout 3 were useless though. In fallout 4, many weapons can be made feasible. You would have made a better arguement saying that legendary weapons are lazy and forgettable as hell.
Opinion
>But it was still written atrociously and was entirely forgettable.
Opinion
>But that doesn't adversely affect the gameplay for Fallout 4 because they were compensated for (albeit, clumsily). It's only crime is that it's not what (you) wanted.
Opinion

>>152370426
Pack: Warboys if they were designed by the Joker
Operators: gay /k/ tryhards MUH OPERATOR
Disciples: PSST NOTHING PERSONNEL KID

>>152381104
Hoover Dam has the chinese stealth armor and OWB has the stealth suit. Check there.

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>>152380693
>He can't look past gameplay and story limitations to roleplay
>He can't use his imagination to create a new backstory for characters because the game says MUH SON

>>152381125
Here's an opinion. Your opinion is shit.

>>152381014
It's a stupid argument to tell somebody that the backstory of the PC and the prevalence of it has no impact on roleplaying.

There's a reason to go to start in most RPGs are vague as hell and start the character with amnesia/in a prison. It gives you complete freedom to craft your character, instead of just tack on plot points to an already defined character.

>>152372085
>I want drinks all the time
Your most used/ personal home that you go to the most to get drinks

>I want his happiness bonus for my shitter settlers or because he suits the theme
Partytown

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Wait there is actually a faction called "the operators" in the new DLC?

bethesta confirmed for browsing /k/ and /vg/

>>152381014
every other word out of your goddamned mouth is whining about your baby and crying about your dead spouse
you are locked into "vanilla upper class well-to-do american family"

if you're gonna roleplay you have to pretend that your character changed from middle american housewife to a remorseless killing machine who loves drugs and brutally tortures raiders.
and that's dumb.

>>152381268
>New backstory

You mean tack shit onto being a soldier/lawyer, getting married and having a kid. Being rushed into Vault 111 and being cryogenically frozen.

>>152381292
>Planescape: Torment
>set backstory
>Baldurs Gate:
>mostly set backstory
>Dragon Age
>select set backstories

Guess these aren't RPGs.

If a character doesn't have a backstory then the story must be written where their backstory is irrelevant. That makes your character far less interesting.

>>152381370
They use an AK clone built out of shovels.

>>152381014
I want to roleplay as an old loner with a shotgun who survived the war. Can't do that with a wife and her son.

>>152381360
Yeah the only things at my personal home right now are my assaultron maids that grow my adhesive farm.

>>152380226
Fallout 3 also had worse locations like Little Lamplight. Also actually 5 has more weapons by 3 even when it comes to unarmed weapons. There are very few actually unique weapons that look aesthetically different with most having a name and damage tweaks. The legendary system and drops just makes it seem like there are less real uniques.

>>152381268
are you fucking stupid.
of course i do those things. it's just proof of a shitty RPG if the story forces you to pretend it's not happening in order to roleplay.
That's the mark of a game that wasn't built for roleplaying.

The thing that New Vegas did right was that every mission you went on and story that you progressed, your character didn't bring anything to it. Your character is only invested in things that you the Player are. That's good roleplaying.

I do it, but I shouldn't have to ignore the words coming out of my characters mouth. Whatever comes out of my character's mouth should be adaptable for any roleplaying scenario.

>>152381284
Opinion.

>>152381587
He said most RPGs

>>152381434
congrats, you just proved my point.

>F3 starts you as a vault dweller looking for dad
>Can easily RP as anything you want

>NV starts you as a courier looking for revenge
>Can easily RP as anything you want

>Fallout 4 starts you off as a soldier/lawyer and with a kid
>NOOOOO I CAN'T ROLEPLAY I HAVE A PRESET HISTORY REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>152381791
>He said most RPGs
And yet the most well respected have set or mostly set backstories.

>>152381587
"Select set backstory" isn't the same as "set backstory". There's still an element of choice.
Less choice == Worse roleplaying. Not necessarily a worse RPG, just worse roleplaying element.

Oh boy it's the "you can/can't roleplay with a set backstory only my autistic definition of what an rpg is matters" discussion again this definitely hasn't been done to fucking death hundreds of times. Sure looking forward to the same shitty autistic arguments and spergs from both sides.

>>152381878
>New Vegas
>can be an old grouchy cowboy, musclebound retard, naive goody two shoes rookie, strict supporter of various factions or follow ideoligies to a T

>bethesda games
>set ages, only 2 types of dialogue, SPECIAL plays no part in your dialogue, set backstories.

>>152381878
You are a colossal retard.

>Compares having a father to having a son
One is a completely impossible to avoid scenario for anybody who isn't black, the other is a life changing choice made consciously by the character.

>Having a job is the same as having a son
I can make up a million reasons for why the Courier has his job, whether he was low on caps or somebody berated him for being a free loader who can never keep a job down. Explain how I roleplay away "was a soldier, fucked a woman he clearly loves dearly and had a kid."

>>152381658
Fallout 4 has virtually no uniques. It has the Deliverer, Kremvh's Tooth (technically) and maybe Grognak's Axe. And the only unique I've found in the DLCs is Atom's Judgment.

All the "unique" weapons are just weapons with a certain assortment of mods with some useless legendary effect. They look identical to any weapon with the same mods aesthetically.

>>152381878
>Courier looking for revenge
>being as set as "upper class married soldier/lawyer with a happy marriage and a child"

What did Courier 6 do before that final job? What was the job right before it? What was their last delivery? What was their love life like? Their education?

The Lone Wanderer in 3 is a blank slate, who you were in the vault didn't matter that much because you were a kid and you were born in the vault. Who you are as a person gets developed AFTER that. That's a real clean slate.

You can't compare those two backstories with F4. You honestly can't.

>>152381913
Yet none of the ones you mentioned are well-repsected.

>>152382081
time to go do something else i guess let the autists pass over

I want to roleplay a character as a beefy lesbian who becomes a raider and punches things.

It's doable, and I'm doing it, but i literally just ignore the story, and that's a bad game.

Fallout 4 clearly wanted to be a FPS with a very linear story and plot. It shouldn't have been a Fallout game.

>>152382006
>you are the child of a dead god who intended to use you to bring himself back to life
>you are a nameless adventurer
Guess which most people would find more interesting.

>>152382361
The is probably the laziest attempt I've ever seen.

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>>152382167
>One is a completely impossible to avoid scenario for anybody who isn't black

>>152382618
We're not talking about "which one is more interesting" we're talking about roleplaying.

If I want to play a game where I'm the child of a dead god that's awesome. But what if I don't?

If I'm a nameless adventurer I can be anything, and that's the POINT of Roleplaying.

>>152382618
>Guess which most people would find more interesting.

Do you really want me to bring up the overwhelming popularity of the Elder Scrolls series, and new titles like the Divinity: Original Sin games? All of these games define themselves on "you create your own unique character with a very vague backstory."

>>152382081
>definitely hasn't been done to fucking death hundreds of times

Considering the fact that we've had the last bit of DLC getting leaked and everyone who was interested in it having already played it and talked it to death leaving nothing new for this general to discuss, you must be looking forward to the next 1-5 years. One year until we get some really good mods and another 4-5 before we get the next game. So i suggest you either get used to waifu faggotry and Old vs. New shitposting or just close the tab and forget this thread.

>>152382618
>The is probably the laziest attempt I've ever seen.
At what?

>>152382883
I would rather have the waifu shit because at least that's new instead of the same arguments you retards have been shitting out for 11 months.

>>152383070
>I would rather have the waifu shit because at least that's new instead

A woman's ass is a woman's ass. It's the lamest attempt at keeping a thread going ever.

>>152382807
If you want to roleplay get some friends to play DnD with.

>>152382854
Do you really want me to bring up the overwhelming popularity of fallout 3 and 4?

>>152383156
And yet /tesg/ has been going strong for years and actually manages to bring new shit to the thread. It's nowhere near as bad as the same shitty conversations from sperglords with far too much invested in their preferred game/studio.

>>152383070
Dunno, i despise them about equally. At least the shitposting i can kinda understand but the gushing over a character is just too much for me.

>>152383226
You're a retard for still believing Fallout 3 doesn't allow the player to roleplay well. You can't choose your parents, literally nobody complains about that. You decided key factors throughout the LW's childhood and young adult life, that is proper roleplaying.

Fallout 4 is massively disappointing

>>152382807
>If I'm a nameless adventurer I can be anything, and that's the POINT of Roleplaying.
I just got to this thread, but I wanted to point out that you don't understand what roleplaying is. Roleplaying is playing a role. Whether you establish the role yourself or someone dictates it to you is irrelevant.

>>152383226
Popularity =/= good roleplaying.

stop trying to move the goalposts.
If a game has medicore roleplaying it's a bad roleplaying game. It may be a perfectly fun very popular game, but it's not good for roleplaying.

Fallout 4 had the oppurtunity to be a good roleplaying game like New Vegas and it wasn't and that's sad. That's all I'm saying.

>>152381292
Fallout 1 you are a Vault Dweller and it hints that you are one that thinks leaving the vault might be worth it at one point.
Fallout 2 here is your elder and your fellow tribespeople and everyone will call you a tribal.
Fallout 3 you were not born in this vault but raised in it by your father and Amata is your friend and you escape and eventually find your father.
NV. You are a couriet and have been one long ebough to do enough jobs to pass bye Hopeville at least twice and to get captured.
4. You are a lawyer/military vet married hapilly with a loyal robot in a place seemingly largely safe from the resource shortage and looking for a dog and get frozen in cryo and set out to get revenge and find your SON!

I would agree that 3 and 4 are more restrictive but 2 also has some holdups and 1 and NV have their own limits.

Prison is popular but generally implies you have committed a crime unless you want to pull the I WAS INNOCENT route or amnesia.

Also there are a lot of rpgs with more set backgrounds that are fondly regarded and then there is stuff like jRPGs where you have almost no narrative control and sometimes not even build control.

>>152383448
Funny, that's exactly what your parents said about you.

>>152383447
>nate was in the army
>had a kid
>nora was a lawyer
>had a kid
Wow this backstory is really restrictive.

>>152383308
yeah because anyone who couldn't deal with the waifu faggotry left years ago.

>>152381410
The psychological damage of all the terrible things made you go crazy.

>>152383448
This is basically the sum of the arguments here.
It really truly is a massive disappointment.

>>152383605
They're straight, upper class, white bread americans. They are well educated. They love each other very much. This is extremely restrictive.

>>152383593
Stay mad, Todd.

>>152383573
>I would agree that 3 and 4 are more restrictive but 2 also has some holdups and 1 and NV have their own limits.
3 has the same limitations as 1 and 2 though, in all of them you're some green as grass shitter who has never left your vault/village and your father/overseer/elder has a quest for you to go do.

>>152383741
But not crazy enough to not care about your husband and child.

>>152381913
Except for ES, the looser Fallouts, and a lot of other classics and new revival crpgs.

nuka world is pretty good desu

>>152383605
>Sino-American War went on for 11 years before before the bombs fell
>Nate is referred to as a decorated war hero and veteran

Hmm, it's almost like the game is telling me that Nate was in this war most of it as an enlisted soldier.

>>152383680
so the tubroautists left and the thread is better? shame /cfog/ isn't containing the autism

>>152383948
yeah

>this fucking discussion again
Nobody has ever explained why a irrelevant backstory matters so much to roleplaying when you are already limited to the developers vision in plot development after character creation.

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If Obsidian made the contraption workshop first, how would they have done it?

>>152384107
>Comparing the lore of the world and the main story to intrinsic details stapled to your character

People have explained plenty of times, you just appear to be too fucking stupid to even understand the difference between character baggage and the fiction they reside in.

>>152384107
Or in a less confusing way. Why do you accept the restrictions placed on your characters future but restrictions on their past is a deal breaker?

>>152384057
No, the people that actually wanted to talk about the game left and the only ones who are left would be content with any other program that has a character creator but somehow chose this one taking over a thread about a game and pushing away anyone else with their faggotry.

>>152384280
>Past events were not decided by the player
>Future events were decided by the player

This isn't difficult.

>>152384248
Obsidian wouldn't have fallen into the Minecraft meme trap.

I am going fucking crazy trying to get a wounding ripper to drop

>>152384402
So if you played through the backstory, while still being almost entirely linear, you'd have no problem with it?

>>152384468
There's a stagger one in far harbor at the lumber place it's retarded as fuck nothing can resist your struggle snuggles because they're stun locked permanently

>>152382807
I just wanted to expand on this >>152383497 to make it easy to understand.

In life, you're more or less an unknown entity that can lead any life they choose. You aren't roleplaying a blank slate.

Now when you dress up like a police officer and your mulatto wife acts like a Black Lives Matter protester and you pretend you're raping her, when she yells that Kill all cops! as she climaxes, that's roleplaying.

How much health do enemies have on survival?

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>the only thing with spoken dialog in the dolphin porn is bottle

help pls

>>152384561
If I have no choice in key decisions, then no it's still the same.

You've basically just described a typical Bethesda quest where I'm railroaded into decisions I would never make.

>>152384278
Why does your ability to headcanon baggage completely irrelevant to your characters future matter so much to you?

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http://www.mediafire.com/download/j9x9a5fcdmtp8sa/CompanionDonaldTrump+v1.zip

Somebody got the files to the donald trump mod on media fire after nexus took it down, grab while you can.

>>152384640
Exactly the same health doesn't change only the damage you do and in survival you both shit damage. You get up to 4x with max adrenaline.

>>152384695
I dunno, having a wife and son, and said son being a key point to the entire major quest when I hate kids and would never have one kinda ruins the experience.

The best I can do to rectify the situation is shoot Shaun in the face and leave his synth abomination to smoulder in the ruins.

>>152384770
Does he build a wall?

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>>152362460
>Dark souls refrences in nuka world
I'm ok with this

>>152382215
Cryolator
Tesla Rifle
Severed Assaultron Head
Alien Blaster
Deliverer
Broadsider
Atom's Judgement
Grognak's Axe
Junkjet (you can technically get two, but it's otherwise unique)
World Series Bat
Krvemth's Tooth

Are all unique aesthetically with some even having special legendaries and there are more of them that aesthetically look the same but with unique legends or legends not normally on those types of weapons.
Pickman's Blade
Zeta Gun
Striker (which has a mod that is a minor change of ammo)
December's Child
Automatic Laser Musket
Shem Drowne Sword
Lucky Eddy
Final Judgement (Rapid-Fire does not spawn on heavy weapons)
Death From Above (Nimble does not spawn on heavy weapons)
Survivor's Special (Bloodied is normally a melee effect)
Big Boy (Two-Shot does not spawn on heavy weapons)
Skipper's Last Stand (Resilient does not spawn on heavy weapons)

and Nuka World adds a few more like democracy wackamole and zapper gun which you can unlock a unique gun.

I like NV's weapon variety more and consider the legendary system a mess but 3 really doesn't have as many as you think.

>>152384818
if he doesn't I'm gunna fucking uninstall.

>>152384770
>after nexus took it down
Why did they take it down?

>>152384561
Not him but I still would have no choice in the matter. Unless they let me choose between being a family man, loner, etc and different occupations and whatnot throughout like a flashback or something, kind of like the intro to Fallout 3 where they skim through the first 19 years of your life and I got to make choices that molded my character. I'd be okay with that.

I still prefer no backstory so I can literally make shit up if I wanted to. My courier was actually part of the alien race that was marooned in the Mojave and the alien with the Alien Blaster attacked me because I betrayed them back on our home planet.

>>152382618
Neither because people lile games with vague backgrounds and set ones alike. DESU I never loved Baldurs Gate.

does anybody even bother playing survival difficulty? i've played until i saved nick but then the lack of fast travel annoyed me too much when i wanted to go back to sanctuary

>>152384587
I'm in croup house with a ghoul dropping rippers, I've gotten every legendary effect except wounding, I don't get it.

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>>152384891
>>152384770

It was taken down due to copyrighted voice clips apparently, nexus just being dicks.

>>152384994
I do, I enjoy walking through the wastes

>>152384807
So your problem is not that 4 has a set backstory but that you don't like the one it has. That seems like a pretty big difference from what you are arguing.

>>152384807
>I don't like kids so I can't roleplay as someone with a kid

Honestly, the problem is in you. You're shit at roleplaying.

>>152385024
maybe you have just bad luck, i think it should be possible to farm one

>>152385024
Do you really want it? It makes the game way too easy because you melt everything basically instantly.

There was a unique ripper in F3 called Jack that had a crit bonus and could crit like 7 times a second so it melted everything in seconds even behemoths, this is that but even better.

>>152384994
I only play survival there's a lot of people who do.

>>152384828
I'm talking about weapons that are unique counterparts of normal weapons. Like the Deliverer is a unique variant of the common 10mm pistol. Weapons like the Cryolator, Broadsider etc. are cool but there not unique versions. I'll give you the world series bat, though. I forgot about that one.

We're on the same page when it comes to NV's uniques though. Literally every unique weapon except for the Liberator looked different than their normal versions, I liked that a lot. For me if you can't tell the difference between the normal and unique when it's in your hands, it's not unique.

>>152385104
You don't seem to understand how much I hate kids.

I can roleplay as a Brotherhood of Steel member, an Institute member, a Raider. You name it.

Absolutely none of those characters of mine would ever have kids.

>>152385296
You really can't blame a game for your own personal issues.

>>152385380
Anybody who has ever worked in retail will hate kids, likewise it makes you racist as fuck.

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The best thing about Nuka World is that most of Nate/Nora's dialog doesn't mention Shaun at all.

Cept for when you say you always wanted a squirt gun.

>>152384994
I'm going to start a survival playthrough after I beat Blood and Wine but I'm 99% sure I will give up due to no fast travel. What if I want to store items after my inventory is full? I have to trek all the fucking way back to store one item? That shit's retarded, I wish you could choose to have have fast travel, I'd keep everything else active though.

>>152385529
>doesn't mention Shaun

How is Shaun related in Nuka World

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Fancy shiny robot.

How Codsworth was intended to be.

>>152385473
Kids are fine, it's old people, blacks and asians.

>>152385206
At this point I do t know if I want it enough to keep doing this, might just settle for a furious or staggering.

>>152385473
I don't like kids either but I can empathize to a degree with a parent having their baby kidnapped.

>>152385473
Most people have worked in retail. Some of us even grow up and get real jobs.

I can't say you'll ever want to have kids, but I thought the same thing. As I get I get older and between the nature of my work and the degradation of my health, I'm faced more often with my mortality. Having a kid lets a part of myself and my values live on.

anyway you can finish nuka world with gage and the radier leaders alive but the park is open to traders?

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what the hell is causing this

fucking nightmare. high lvl shit spawned and i can't even see what im fighting unless i charge into them

>>152386024
exitsave and reload. sometimes the textures with invisible portions maintain their long-range appearance for some weird reason

>>152385959
Literally nobody cares about your biological instinct to breed as you get closer and closer to dying, faggot.

>>152385959
>Probably works some shitty office job where he fills out excel sheets and considers it a "real job"

lmao

>>152382271
>Their education?
"What the hell is a fish?

>>152386024
It's a Legendary Invisible Alpha Deathclaw

Holy shit, godrays are so hard on FPS, and if I put them on anything other than ultra I get really janky pixelation.

Who the fuck thought this was okay?

>>152383804
4 is most restrictive. 3 is less compensating with fastforward flashes of your childhood. 2 then has the tribe and family limit. All of these are the most restrictive on age (3 the most though). Then there is 1 and NV with the least restricting but 1 still has you starting from a Vault and the other has you having done at least 3 courier runs.

>>152385529
Damn that stupid Chainlink shit all over the armor. I need to learn how to edit things so i can remove that shit

>>152386812
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/15211/?

>>152386812
>turn godrays off
>it puts them back at low
REEEEEEEE

>>152386447
Kinda like no one gave a shit about how the other Anon couldn't get over his child hatred to enjoy a video game.

>>152386581
I was a licensed electrician before I joined the army out of a desire to serve my country.

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How do i make a good automatron?

>>152387271
~gr off when you need frames
~gr on when you don't need the extra f[s

>>152387091
Oh, does this actually work? I was looking at it yesterday and wondering about that.

I'll have to try it. I have a shitty 970, so I might be better off just disabling them.

>>152386447
nobody cares about an autist who hates kids sperging about muh roleplaying either, welcome to the fallout thread

>>152387336
download RILF

has anyone found where to make nuka cola yet

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Vim brand Bleach, drink it.

This isn't my bathroom, this was in a dirty ass AirBnB when I was in Rome, I'm not the bleach guy, god rest his soul

>>152387271
try that http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/102/?

Anyone know where to find the Bradburton head in Nuka World?

Oh. The game kind of looks better with godrays off, that's weird.

>>152388401
do Sierra's quest

>>152385264
Oh I get you then. I was just comparing 3's to 4's uniques.

I vaguelly recall a few more but I could be wrong (I think one of the machetes and maybe the that guns and the sorts but could be wrong on them ao take it with a grain of salt) I do kinda wonder how they could keep uniques unique with how mods change speed and damage and if they had brought back ammo varients. I eould admittedly be satisfied with even just reskins though.

Anywhere know where the Medallion machine at the Ferris Wheel is? Or where the Nuka Racers ride is?

Guys, where is the dolphin porn?

>nuka red rocket can't be activated until power is restored to nuka world
what the fuck is this
i wanted a real base in nuka world from the get go, not some halfass "house"

To the people who've played Nuka World; what is that electrical power armor from the trailer like? Is it a new set, or just regular raider PA with new upgrades?

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lmao i ain't never seen the nora park dialogue

Isn't there a mod that removes those stud things from dog armor? I swear I saw it somewhere once.

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>>152390490
New set, but same type of upgrades as normal PA. Also it's only electrical when the other guy's wearing it.

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>>152390490
fancier raider power armor with a legendary effect.

>>152389808
I don't remember where the ferris wheel medallion machine is, but I'm pretty sure Nuka Racers is in Kiddie Kingdom.

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>safari zone at night
>thunderstorm
>these guys are silent
scary shit

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Why the fuck does a crouch even exist if you can't climb through anything.

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>>152392519

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I noticed my barbells were cycling through there animations without any settlers attached to them. It's made me wonder why they never just have objects play there animation when you're in a spooky area.

Does nuka world add any new legendary effects?

>>152392805
>have objects play animation with noone there in spooky areas

Ideas for Maxwell's World, is Train here?

>>152392936
furious can be attached to guns now, outside of that I haven't found any.

>>152392225
literally borderlands
I love it

Anyone know where the cappy in the bottling plant is? I've been looking for hours.

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>If you're in a suit of power armor and are wielding a large melee weapon such as a Super Sledge, the character wields it in two hands in first person, but only one hand in 3rd person
>Additionally, in 3rd person they swing faster compared to in first person

>>152392225
>>152392378
Alright, thanks. Shame about the electrical effect though.

>>152393954
in third person he swings it as fast as a medium weapon

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>>152393954

>>152362743
>The New Vegas era Bishop patriarch may have been fathered by Shadow-Who-Walks, not the Chosen One

>>152373445

I also like the rather gonzo theory that No-Bark Noonan is the Chosen One (presumably one that picked a lot of the wackier dialogue options).

>>152379907

Fallout 3's world is at least fun to explore. Fallout 4's world could have been shrunk by 50% without losing anything, and most of the little stories and things you can find feel like they have no resolution.

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What does the new rank of Attack Dog in NW do?

>>152395885
has anyone else's dogmeat started going invisible when you sneak for just a second?

i have no mods that affect him at all

>>152395881
>Fallout 3's world is at least fun to explore
The one problem I have with 3 is when you're walking through the Wasteland there is too many encounters. I never felt like a lone wanderer because I was always running into something.

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MY QUESTION STILL REMAINS

what kind of evil things can you do in Nuka World?

Two questions:

1. Should I harvest my crops, or will they automatically be deposited into my workbench?

2. What the fuck do light boxes do? I set up a red one, and it's not lighting up the area around it. It's on. It's set to bright. I can see the red screen. It doesn't light anything up, though.

>>152393974
I feel like that can be fixed quite easily with mods, right? I beat it can also be applied to the tesla armor from automotron.

>>152397074
Murder
Enslave
Take settlements from people

>>152397550
So it's just some Radiant quest and shit you already do?

that is dissapointing

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>>152397261
>What the fuck do light boxes do?

>>152397261
1.it deposits very few. You should pick them yourself.

2.light boxes are for pixel art, nothing else.

>>152397772
No, where did you get that from my post?

The settlement takeover stuff is fully fleshed out. With a new system where you capture a settlement and turn it into an outpost, then enslave surrounding settlements to feed the outpost because Raiders are allergic to physical labor.

Is it worth it to set up traps in my settlements? Will my settlers take damage from them?

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Sentient deathclaws confirmed?

>>152398757
?

sierra petrovita is cuter than before desu

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>>152398757
disregard this post, I'm retarded
he clearly meant a super mutant

>>152398972
At least you admitted to your fault.

>>152397772
It seems like most of Nuka World is Radiant, with the ability to to conquer settlements and build them raider style open to anyone that succeeds the main quest. The only difference is that you don't need the Local Leader perk to build raider stuff.

The radiant stuff might be considered reduced in that each raider settlement needs normal settlements to control for it to have food, and when you set a settlement as a dominated settlement it no longer is build-able and doesn't need to be defended.

The parts inside the park are more fun exploration/survival but the only really morally negative thing is that you are giving over parts of the park to EVIL raiders.

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>>152398757
Yeah, like 18 years ago

Also as a member of the unofficial beta tester group ala russian leaker who should I contact if I do think there is a bug.

So, how'd you guys handle Bradburton?

Also, is that the same VA is Graham?

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How do I fix the monorail crash?

>>152399806
Play on an updated copy.

>>152398757
This is actually a real entry right? Not some sperglord anon making journal entries again?

>>152398961
Enhanced graphics desu senpai.

>>152393349
Does that affect legendary drops globally, or just for the Handmade Rifle? Because we could already correctly attach Furious to guns with mods (and it's gloriously powerful).

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Wonder if we will ever know what happened to Goris

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what is this? it was on top of the disciples hideout, and when i tcl through it theres a ton of tiny bodies underneath it

>>152400721
yo han solo

>>152400721
Han Solo?

>>152400721
Starwars.

>>152400721
I would have figured Fett would be more of an Operators type of guy.

>>152397772
instead of make settlement; take 6 points in charisma and 2 in local leader to set up supply lines the raider system is make outpost; do a few quests around the area; get loot

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>>152400801
>>152400815
>>152400817
i thought it was star wars, but whats the deal with this being underneath it?

>>152398757
there was sentient deathclaws in fallout 2 though?

>>152401304
nevermind i realized why

>>152398757
All deathclaws are sentient :^)

>>152399917
Do you have a link?

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So I just learned that the whole huge section of highway over Greygarden is buildable area.

This settlement just got a lot more interesting.

Can Automatrons do stuff like work scavenger benches, run shops and man guard posts and minutemen artillery?

>>152398020
How do you wire all of them and do letters like K, Q, X, A, etc?

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>>152399917
thanks a lot

Is there any reason I should go massacre the Disciples right now? Will giving the Pack 2 areas and the Operators 3 areas make the Pack angry? Will attacking the Disciples early cause everyone to go hostile?

Also as a side note, I really liked being able to just kill Harvey after finding him in the park and having no one give a shit. Even accidentally killed another slave and no one cared.

>>152402307
*shouldn't not should

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>>152401958
With lots of wires

>>152402447
You wont get to see THICC women everywhere.

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>>152401958
>do letters like K, Q, X, A, etc?

>>152402621
What. They look normal to me.

>>152402729
some of them are on the well-fed side, some are just regular.

>>152402729
Their armored skirts make them look THICC. At least compared to the rest of the npcs.

>>152402824
Well okay then. They're also sadistic freaks. I mean they're worse than the Pack even. Have you looked around their main area? Fucking freaks.

>>152402934
i dont know why anyone would think its a good idea to surround yourself with mutilated dead bodies

its just asking to catch a disease. completely unsanitary

>>152402934
My headcanon is that the SS would find them useful for interrogation and torturing enemies.

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So I just redownloaded fallout 4 (again) and I still have the bug that causes the game to not start a new save. When I press new game it just gives me a loading icon at the bottom right and the intro video keeps looping.

How the fuck do I fix this bullshit

Will anything terrible happen if I give all the park zones to the operators?
Will the pack revolt if I only give them kiddie land?

>>152403186
use a cleaner to clean the regestry? files and then reinstall it
that should fix it

>>152403562
Yes.

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Can we agree that when it came to the monster and robot design, Bethesda absolutely blew Interplay the fuck out?

If there was one single thing Beth did right, it was visual design.

>>152403186
Weird.

I got that my first time playing, but I ALT+F4'd and never experienced it again.

Didn't have to reinstall.

>>152403618
should i just use ccleaner or something?

>>152403186
dont you have a save from inside vault 111? just start from there

>>152401630
??

>>152404415
i deleted all my saves as that was a potential fix, so now i have no save and the only choice is to start new game

(right now i have no mods installed either)

>>152403845
I can agree with that. Fallout 4 is a roller coaster of ups and downs. The design for all robots is quite good especially with automotron. The new deathclaws are goat. The only robot I don't like is assaultrons, they're cool but don't really fit in. They seem too strong lorewise for their size. New sentry bots are goat.

>legendary sentry boys explode twice upon death
Never forget about that on survival mode.

>>152404561
You could just download a character save that's at the end of 111 and start there since it lets you edit all your stuff before leaving.

>>152404824
that fixed it thanks dudebro

>>152404540
they used different bodies to mimic hon solo frozen in carbonite

a body for the hands, another body for the feet, another body for the torso, so on.

hope that makes sense, its hard for me to explain

>>152403186
Load up a game, then start a new game.

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Who said a little radtion hurt?

>>152405292
No, that's good, I was kind of assuming that as well, but wasn't sure if it was something else. Seems like a lot of work for a little easter egg.

>>152403845
Yeah, definitely. Not a fan of the radscorpions, but the robots and Deathclaws are fantastic.

>>152405373
You're back. You're finally back.

Cock is now out. Post 'em up, nigger.

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>>152405569
I find the fallout 4 radscorpions to be the best.

That being said I never liked their design in general since the first game.

I mean the first game is just "giant scorpion" but there's not much else you could do with that concept and graphics level at the time. I just found them to be uninspired.

The digging ability in 4 was a great feature though.

I'm getting random crashes to desktop with fallout 4; no rhyme or reason to them
already tried googling it; no luck. Anyone here got an answer for me?

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>>152406382

>cock out

thanks for remembereing Harambe

>>152406882
>The digging ability in 4 was a great feature though.

4 was pretty good about diversifying the enemies in general. Look at how in 3/NV feral ghouls were just fast zombies but now they play dead, crawl in through windows and crap and will really sprint and completely throw themselves at you, the dismemberment is neat too.

>>152406882
Wasn't the digging ability inspired by them being famous for clipping through the ground or is that just a fan theory?

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>>152406964

Glutes like this, takes work my man.

What's with all the fags that play as girls?

>>152407238
And the glowing one's rad blast reviving nearby non-decapitated dead ghouls.

>>152399196

Sentient deathclaw romance when?

>>152407527
Her dialogue is generally given better and Nora as a character makes sense desperately goin through a wasteland to end up disappointed.

Does nuka world allow slave trading/selling?

>>152407527
>he doesn't play as a girl

what a homo

>>152407527
i dont mind playing nate, but his voice sounds like hes kinda bored all the time, though nora isnt much better

>>152406882
i just hate them teleporting behind you

>>152403845
Fallout 3? Hit and miss. Fallout 4? For sure. Still miss floaters and F1&2 centaurs though. Those things were creepy as fuck. Also always liked the weird boils and stuff on Super Muties.

Bethesda especially in concept artwork are brilliant though. Assaultrons feel a bit off for me and I would have rather it been some sort of Institute or even Enclave invention built post war before the Institute made more human gen 1 synths but they look cool and terrify me.

Sentry Bots have got to be their best improvement aesthetically with mirelurks being second best.