/edg/: Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous #14

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1st for Mako Laser Pistols

(That won't get put into the game)

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In E:D, does the acid rounds effect have any difference based on multi size? Like small vs huge?

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gay video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-3YBuFI3iI

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>>152309841
>>152309853
>>152309954

why even bother

why is this even here

why
why
why

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>women driving

>>152310378
Sorry anon. I understand your frustration through my own experiences.

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>yet another Vanguard in 2.6

>>152309632
>I wonder who holds the rights to the IP.
Atari.
>On June 22, 2014, Atari announced a new corporate strategy that would include a focus on "new audiences", specifically "LGBT, social casinos, real-money gambling, and YouTube".[49]

>>152310473
Vanguard pod, really.

>>152310473

It's because they couldn't unfuck all the things objectively wrong with the Redeemer before 2.6 comes out.

Yeah that's right, objectively. Deal with it.

>>152310521
>I wonder who holds the rights to the IP.
>Atari.
Abandon ship. Just have to reinstall the original and play through it again.

>>152310473
Are they changing what the Vanguard is meant to do or something?

I thought it was spaceBRRT

>>152310409
>that poor guy
>trying to act like he can't just kill her right there
>it's painfully obvious
Man, that must have been painful. Noticed the vehicle took zero damage, and got zero hit mark pips when he did hit it though. Kind of weird.

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>>152310598

oh it's this guy again

the actual objective truth is that it's easy peasy to just make a new variant and charge another 200+ for it and whales will gobble it up

>>152310521
>>152310521
>Atari
>Leading the gaming world in brilliant decision making since December 1982

>>152310473
What is an info runner?
Hoplites are some kind of troop or power armour?

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this guy KNOWS space sim fans. To ashes.

>>152309893
>no /scg/

>>152310709
probably CR's idea to throw it into the fight before it was combat ready

>>152310923
true, he fucked up, but if people are too lazy to ctrl-f "star c" welp.

>>152309893
>>152310923
Nice job OP, you failed at copying and pasting.

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>>152310595
It's still stupid to convert it into a dropship instead of strapping some benches into a cargo ship. The interior is tiny.

>>152310692
They thought it would be a briliant idea to make a separate variant for everything the Vanguard was supposed to do originally. Somewhere during that process it also lost all the firepower it should have had.

>>152310835
"Hoplite" is the name of the variant. It doesn't fit at all, but apparently CR doesn't care.

>>152310881
frame him as a homosexual kafeer then dox him in a muslim forums

>>152310995

that or the guns were too small to do anything to the armor

>>152311068
>>152310995
>implying /edg/ isnt just intimidated by SC after gamescom

>>152311178
Nah, we're still bris. I'm happy for your 3.0.

>>152310995
There looked to be some hit detection issues with the FPS portion also. Probably thanks to the netcode they're still working with?

>>152310598

I thought the redeemer was a gunship with a secondary dropship role.

>>152311232
bros*

>>152311232
JUDEN

>>152311450
bully

>>152310279

No. It applies the same status effect regardless of the weapon firing the rounds.

They also don't stack so you don't need any more than one.

>>152311178
The trailers and shit look nice. Lots of life and flavour which we all know ED is sorely missing.

>>152311102
>It's still stupid to convert it into a dropship instead of strapping some benches into a cargo ship. The interior is tiny.

Maybe because its for special forces, and requires a tough combat ship with an extreme range, not some converted truck.

Sorry to repost this from the last thread but I need encouragement/to be told if I am doing wrong.

I am thinking about melting down my Reliant Kore and upgrading my Aurora LN a Freelancer DUR.
It pains me to do it since they are both LTI and for some reason my brain thinks two small LTI ship are better then one medium LTI ship.
Am I doing the right thing?

>>152311560
Nice. Gonna put it on my corvette's small, with incendiary on the rest.

>>152311608
Without considering any logic, I sometimes wish ED and SC could actually be combined into one game.

>>152311773
Yeah. The KORE is pretty much a side-grade to LN. LTI won't matter much in the game anyway, as hull insurance is supposed to be very cheap. Or you could try your chance on reddit's greymarket and make some profit selling one of the LTI ships.

>>152310378

They put them there for explorers to find. You can find large caches even further out.

IDK why they thought anyone would even consider picking them up when your jump range is your most valuable asset on an exploration run.

They're also illegal and worth 2.5K on the black market for a small cache or 7.5K for a large one

>>152311773
the freelancer is just a giant aurora anyway, better guns, more cargo, and not much more of a boat.

the reliant is a gimmicky shitbox and CIG's recod on fixing ships is not great. do it

>>152311773
you can upgrade for free after game release
don't do it

>>152311773
Yes. Reliant is trash. Just get a regular freelancer.

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>>152312213

>Derek Smart is so devoid of creative thought that he steals his bants from twitch chat spam

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>>152312213
>"she's lip synching my name"

Adorable

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>>152308185
>>152309627
I'm pretty sure one of the ways they're going to fill out the universe is with player-made mission system.

>My ship blew up and I need rescue, will pay $$$
>I want to trade my cargo through pirate infested asteroids because my life is too boring, escort me for $$$
>Looking for someone to handle my "cargo", will pay $$$

Could be fun if the system is robust.

>>152311102
The name "Hoplite" seems like more of a nickname than an actual variant. It's probably just going to be a Harbinger with a different central pod anyway.

>>152311916
>forcing a special on your weapon costs you rank with the engineer
>specializes in DAKKA
>ranking back up to 5 only takes a few minutes of bounty hunting

Todgineer best engineer

>>152312213
>lip synching my name

That unwarranted self importance.

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Do you think Fdev will add Planet Coaster elements to ED?

>>152312213
One day Sandi-senpai will notice me~

>>152312707
Yeah, also just love multis period. All I've used since my Viper. RIP original Viper, I will always remember your maneuverability and speed as it was.

>>152312761
They already do, it's called their dev cycle.

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>>152313092
No, this is their dev cycle. Complete with snowstorms that stop you for days. :(

>>152312675
wait what was that last mission?

>>152312675
that'll be a big part of it, and from the sounds of it NPC generated ones will largely work on the same system, so you may never know if you're going to a player or AI job, because they're all on the same board. simple text, 'go here and do this for me plz' type stuff. then there will also be the high production value arcs like we saw today.

>>152313253
>NPC generated ones

Only bad thing about this is that there will most likely be a large sum of missions lacking voiced content.

>>152313253
Maybe if there are NPCs called KappaBoi92

>>152313375
I don't really see that as a huge problem. when you get a voice one you know it's going to be something a little unusual, but not in a glaring way, more like 'oh, this doesn't look like your standard escort job'

>>152313619

I loled

>>152312675
>My ship blew up and I need rescue, will pay $$$
Amazing that Elite already has this. The problem is instead of player to player it's player to dev.

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Alternate ship variants?

>>152313728
The voiced missions spoil and hype me. When exploring Covalex I absolutely love the audio logs you need to collect. It's why I really dislike interaction with the generated NPCs in ED, aside from their ass ugly faces.

I appreciate some good voiced content, and I can of course enjoy them being text only.

>>152313862
If only the dads could die and people could convince FDev to finally add in payer to player trading and economy.

>>152314132
>If only the dads could die and people could convince FDev to finally add in payer to player trading and economy.
But, but Chinese gold traders will flood the game.

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Vulture and Python body kits, coming soon

>>152314550
Good. I could use easy targets.

2.2 looks neat

neat!

>>152314550
I know you're not serious; but seriously, the chink bots would have no interest in ED. The playerbase isn't there and it's not easy enough to bot.

So is 2.5 supposed to come to live tonight or is it being held back until Monday?

>>152314840
>Implying they'll be farming in open

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>>152314641
They're like what $10 each or some shit? Only the Eagle one looks any good. At least they're adding them to ships that players actually use now though.

>>152314949
Can't earn them through gameplay?

>>152314641
I'm getting real sick of this f2p cash shop model on this pay to play game they're abusing. Is that the Python bottom right?

>>152315139
No.

>>152314860
>The playerbase isn't there and it's not easy enough to bot.
IKR, but the fucking forumsdads don't understand logic. There's easier, more profitable shit to bot.

>>152314641
I refuse to spend money on this shit until they make some kind of Forza Paint Job system

>>152315203
>No.

lel, fucking jews

>>152314641
That planet looks cool though.

>>152315589
Those planets fucking suck. At least the way the game is now. Takes forever to find a landing spot and if your SRV falls down the chasms you're fucked. If you can land in a chasm, there's a good chance the SRV will get stuck anyway. And POIs/tip offs spawn on the fucking walls. Shit is awful.

>>152315589
That's their special screenshot planet. You can't actually find anything like that in the game. They used it for the impossible menu screen and the occasional screenshot.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/vss5beargks2fr/source/JumpPoint_04-08_Aug-16_Grim-Realities.pdf

New JP

>>152313375
Aren't we also getting normal sidequests, like the Imperial Cartographer ones are now?

>>152315839
Monoto A 2 A looks just like that. Monoto system.

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Should I?

>>152316346
no

>>152316346
Both suck.

>>152316346
Are you actually having trouble killing people in PVP?

>>152316498

the avenger is actually pretty good aside from the fucking weirdly low top speed

>>152311949
I cant figure out any part of ed thats redeemable other than being out and sort of playable.

I like sc's ship asthetics but after playing a whopping 5 minutes it doesnt seem cool anymore.

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>>152316346
Try renting.

>>152316941
How many hours of vanduul horde is that anyway?

>>152317038

>hours

you can make 2000-3000 REC in one game if you're not a window licker

>>152317038
Depends how good you are.

If you're experienced, about an 1.5-2 hours

>>152312761
They should have....and also combined thier stupid passenger mission with it.

Take these passengers to planet coaster....where the ride never ends.

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>>152315827
Why isn't the SRV a small ship/shuttle of the same size? Something that flies would obviously be superior for planet exploration, due to the .

Is it impossible to create a craft that small that still has space for cargo? Is it just a cost thing? Does the game address this at all?

Kinda reminds me of how nonsensical the buggy was in Star Trek Generations. There was no reason for it to exist in the same universe where shuttlecraft were a thing.

>>152317125
I'm not shitty with my Titan but a single match only earned me 1.5k with many kills.
>>152317135
I might do that. Been meaning to try out other ships.

>>152317374

2000 is about my average with a stalker

what's your wing weapons?

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So... new Freelancer HUD?

>>152317359
*due to difficult terrain, like you mentioned

>>152317498
>Stalker

No, no. I'm a different anon with a Titan. Default weapons.

>>152317510
>still haven't fixed the giant annoying as fuck window blocking things

>>152317617
Unfortunately, they need that giant fucking dashboard for holographic projection units. If you don't like it, MISC probably isn't going to be for you.

>>152317584

I'm asking because a pair of tarantulas on my wings shot my earnings up immensely because I was able to bring everything to bare on a target with a mostly aligned pip

i can kill 3 vanduul back to back within a 15 second time frame if I get a good angle

>>152317725
The top window doesn't have to be taking up a third of my screen.

>I took more cargo to Jacques than the granddaddy forumdad himself

SUCK IT SCOTT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FThGAb11l8o

>>152317824

can an ed player explain to me the significance of Jacques?

Why do we need yet another explorer?

>>152317941
Something else to gank

>>152317785
Cool, I'll look into earning some more and equipping them.

>>152317925
The station was lost and people found it. Essentially.

>>152317816
>M-MUH VIEW!!!!!!!!

>>152314641

>Python
>needing a kit

It's already the best looking ship.
Also wow they're serious about ship kits. That's the dumbest thing they've made so for.

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>>152318016
>Ganking something with size 5 guns
That sounds like a bad idea. Unless the guy's a shitter.

What do people mean when they refer to people as "dads"?

>>152317925
It's gonna be a new hub. New hub will likely have more emergent shit with aliens, leaving the old hub for dads to do their boring space trucking in.

>>152318197
Men going through mid life crisis play ED and some are moving to Star Citizen. They generally enjoy shitty gameplay and hold back games.

Is it feasible to use Connies and other multi-crew ships in the PTU yet? They feel extremely unwieldy and getting in and out of them while space walking usually kills you.

>>152318150
no m8, that's going to be awesome for the Python. Get a big ramming grill on and wreck shit. See, the parts have a hitbox but don't take damage or transmit damage to the ship. You can plow into shit all day without a care with the current body kits.

>>152318197
It's just the fucking worst of the worst pvp griefer scum that get mad not everyone can autistically grind elite dangerous for 1000 hours per day like them and so they blame everything wrong with the game on us being relatively satisfied with what's there because we dont' have the time to plow through the content in a few days.

>>152318219
hub = bubble*

Too much Deus Ex on the mind.

>>152318197
Forumdads are people who played the original game when they were kids, and want ED to be a HD ELITE instead of the MMO with fun combat that it was advertised as. They also think pvpers are real life psychopaths.

>>152317824
By literal definition he is a forum dad, and he dose not openly criticise the game very often but I think one can tell with out much reading between the lines that he dose not appreciate the game outright quality of life failures.

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>>152318195
np I am arena warrior with s5

>>152318316
>shitty gameplay
such as?

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Been playing SC with the free pass and it's fun enough that i'd drop $45-60 dollars on it, (assuming the 2.5 patch actually comes out soon like they say it will.)

But I heard that there might be a sale soon, does anyone know if it's gonna be worth waiting for it?

Also, I really like the free saber ship, but apparently I can't get it. Which of the < $60 ships is best / will i get the most similar experience from?

>>152318079
>having good visibility when flying in a 3Dimensional environment is bad

not him, but I agree. It's fucking stupid that we can barely see shit.

>>152318195
this thing looks pretty cool.

>>152318079
Seriously dude, why are you being so defensive?
How hard is it to just make that top part transparent? Why does it need to take up so much space on the screen when there's nothing actually on the top part anyway?

>>152318443
Go to bed, dad.

>>152318492
Such as sitting in supercruise for literally half an hour. They consider this a skill and don't want it changed. They actively avoid dog fighting of any kind.

>>152318520
The sales usually just mean limited time rare pepe ships are available

So I guess if you want saber wait for one, usually a sale around Christmas

>>152318364
No. At least, not until they add things like cargo or true multicrew occupations.

>>152318485
Vanduul fighters are trash though. The vanduul fight in numbers, not individual skill, so they make up for their lack of a good fighter with more fighters.

>>152318576
Glass is fragile. Why do you want a big weak point right where your crew is?

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>>152318576
>How hard is it to just make that top part transparent
forums

>>152318769
>glass is fragile
So why do we have a glass window at all?

>>152318730
Citizencon sale will probably have almost everything.

>>152318443
shouldn't you be fixing your boys squeeky bike wheel?

Sabre vs Superhorny

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>>152318735
Blasphemy

Current stats are just tuned so dads can faceroll in swarm mode

>>152318801
It's not glass, it's transparent metal.

>>152318790
Hahaha, that second design is hideous.

>>152318801
I completely agree, but if I have to have some amount of glass, I would prefer as little as possible.

>>152318769
In SC, it's some metal-diamond laminate or some shit, apparently as strong as the rest of the hull. Which is why everyone doesn't get one shotted out of the seat every dogfight with ballistics.

There's no reason to have shite view in the Freelancer when it's so easily fixable.

>>152318485
I love how shitty the Glaive is. Especially for the price. It makes me laugh. Those fixed S5s are near useless, even with the maneuverability of the ship.

>>152318569
It's got the aesthetics of the Gladiator while being a lot more boxy and full-bodied. It's going to be a joy. And I also agree, the view on the Freelancer is pretty balls. It could've been solved from letting the pilot be closer to the window, but that's not going to happen. Strangely, the Starfarer is slightly less bad about it, though it still has the massive fucking dashboard.

>>152318591
>>152318838
Get a job faggots

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>>152318769
>>152318801
Cameralancer when?

>>152318943
If that's true why not make your while ship see through?

>>152318917
So why not have transparent metal on the top part of the thing, so it doesn't block the view. There's no HUD elements there save for the little tab bar, it being there serves no purpose.

Is it easier in terms of button placement to use a proper stick and throttle? I sometimes feel I'm playing hand gymnastics when I'm dog-fighting and every time I get back to this game after a long absence I have to relearn everything.

>>152319108
Artistic license.

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>>152319007

>>152318730
How much would the saber cost, if it appears? Or does nobody know?

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>get all hype from the gamescom footage
>decide to try out SC for the first time
>site says all this shit is in 2.4
>download it with freefly pass or whatever the fuck

>it's actually shit
Why did we merge with their general again /edg/?

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>>152318435

>the devs make an FDL kit that is purposely made to cover the whole front of the ship and be the most annoying thing ever added to the game

>4 days later they sneak in an update that causes ship kits to transmit damage to the ship and they also nerf ramming

>>152319246
Stupid frog poster.

>>152319246
Because our threads kept dying, you fuck.

>>152318790
The forums voted to keep it close to the concept because the more open cockpit in the second rendering is ugly as fuck. If they actually bothered to do another pass with that feedback they could have established something of a happy medium between the concept and having visibility that doesn't look hideous.

>>152319246
Because we die in under 20 posts on our own.

>tfw I wasted money on both Elite AND Star Citizen

I'm a double-nigger

>>152319093
because it looks stupid? They can easily make ships with good view. Mustange series, gladius, Reliant, etc at no cost to survivability, so the Freelancer needs a small adjustment.

>>152318986
Shhh, you might wake wittle billy.

>>152319246
we never survive on our own. also, wurks un mi mashin

>>152319238
lodsemone

like nearly 200 usd

fuck it just get it in game

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>>152319238
Last time it appeared it was $170. It's a fun little ship.

>>152319093
I don't want system security getting on my case that they can see me banging my loli sexbots

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>>152318483

In the video he actually shits on FDev's microtransactions, but he was the top forumdad for KSP.
Watching him stream with his kids was some lulzy shit.

>>152319358
k bye

>>152318986
Shouldn't you be in bed for work in the morning? Gotta feed your wife's son somehow.

>>152319417
I was wondering where I recognized
>>152314641 that bottom right design.

>>152310881
>Derek Smart (does not honor his surname)
He is a faggot.

>>152319490
omg imagine having to be around children urgh

So what has E:D shown? What's the next major game-fixer for them?

Did the artists for Freelancer also work on star citizen? This gamescom presentation station looks really similar to Pittsburgh

>>152319649
ayyyylmaos

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>>152319614

Imagine having a kid named "Orion."

>>152319842
>Not naming your kid Daedalus

>>152319728
Chris probably has most people from Digital Anvil working with him, makes sense.

>>152319842

>imagine /kspg/ constantly talking about sexually abusing snakes and also your daughter.

>>152319093
Presumably it's expensive. And if you lose your shields and someone shoots lasers at you it might not end well.

>>152319649
So you can now carry cargo that are called "passengers" for missions.
Also you can launch little ships that are exactly the same as your bigger ship but weaker from your bigger stronger ship.

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>>152319417
Looks nice. Is there a tower I can buzz in it?

If you guys don't stop using forumdad as an insult we're gonna have problems.

>>152314641
Holy shit that planet is fucking awful

Does all of ED's planets look like generic pop+clif noise with whatever awful interpolation that is?
Does the procedural generation have any 3d elements or is it just shitty 2d heightmaps?

>>152320301
You can do more than that. You can buzz other people as they try to enter their own ships like an asshole. It's the best.

>>152320332
It's funny both groups look at the other game's planets and go "Nice generic noise map you've got there". No game (that I have seen anyway) has made nice looking planets so far.

>>152320554
No Man's Sky

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>>152320301
>>152320379

top buzz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVf1GKqaoMI

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looking at the mustang page it shows 2/3 of the guns listed as 'optional'

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/mustang/Mustang-Alpha

does this mean if i get the mustang starter i need to separately buy 2/3 of the guns for it with real money?

if so i will kill myself & not buy it, pic related

>>152320687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iOoiEbtf2w

>>152320554
I'm not citizen backer either. Just came here from the stream. At least star citizen has some actual 3d elements, granted they are "artist driven" or whatever.

But NMS has some good terrain despite how fiction the sci-fi looks. The caves and cliffs are well done. Not great but fun to look at and has another dimension of depth to them compared to fucking 2d height maps.

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>>152320330

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>>152320301
I like putting 4 mantis gt 220's on my saber and brrrrrrrrttttttttt'n the security station, it's amazing as CAS role. I gun down all sort of fuckers running to/from their spacecraft

>>152320813

Fixed mounts are a bitch to use alongside a gimbal turret anyway so you won't be missing much.

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>>152312213
lol goons like this guy are pathetic

>>152319304
Backers didn't want any compromise at all. They kept bitching that "SHIP IS NOT CONCEPT I WAS SOLD [CONCERN] [CONCERN] [CONCERN]"

>>152321089
I'm sure goons are just doing it for dank bants like we would if he tried to establish himself here
just trying to keep him going by encouraging him

>>152320813
Not real money, in game money you big silly. You can rent the M50 for that already anyway, and by 3.0 you will be able to buy it in the babby PU too.

>>152321184
Because the other option was UGLY AS FUCK
If you're presented two options, one that looks good, and one that looks terrible, you're going to vote for the one that looks good.

>>152320119
>>152319740
That's it?

Is this truly all they're bringing to the table?

>>152321479
VIP passengers supposedly behave like the non meme entitled millennials and throw a fit if you give them a bumpy ride or don't buzz a planet close enough to enhance their "experience".

>>152321479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UssBtjEQ150
Friday showed off some passenger missions, and that's about it.

>>152321479
- Ship launched fighters (including 1 new fighter)
- Passenger missions
- 2 new passenger ships
- More varied station interiors
- Aliens
- Cryovolcanism on planets
...even as a dot point list it still isn't much.

>>152321638
>video was removed by the user

>>152316346
Wait till 2.5 and gladius flight buff goes live. The Gladius still blows in 2.4

>>152321751
>2
Just 1. Orcas already ingame.

>>152316651
They put it back to 240m/s in new patch

>>152321479
Supposedly planets you can land on with active volcanism and shit but nothing has been shown of that.

>>152317510
All that useless empty space on the overhead bulkhead... And they decide to put status text in what little viewable area the ship fucking has.

What's next for SC?

>>152321774
It probably got deleted again because it spoiled the pink Tharlons. Here's some shots of the station interiors:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/bilderstrecke/bilderstrecke_3298445.html?back=3298273

>>152318364
They made the connie handle worse in 2.5 actually. And the various enter/exit bugs still happen. You clip through the ship less often now though.

>>152316346
gladius is literally the same ship as avenger right now. the s2 mounts on wings are shit and need to be gimballed to s1s anyway and theres no cabin to haul random noobs to kareah with.

rent it if anything but you wont see much improvement over avenger.

>>152322247
>That new station approach graphic

Literally the most exciting part of this whole update.

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>>152322020
2. Dolphin and Beluga.

>>152321751
You forgot fighter paintjobs.

>>152322350
With 3.0 the Avenger's other features will actually be relevant, so the Gladius is just a downgrade.

>>152322446
That's just the fighter docking guide hologram or whatever.

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>New Star Effects for 2.2

>>152322350

>gimballed

no you don't

running 3x fixed tarantulas is pretty good firepower

>>152322970
When did they hire JJ?

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>>152322970
New fumaroles for volcanic planets.

>>152323140
Can I fuck it?

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>>152323140
New Alliance fighter engaging in combat far more exciting than anything you will ever see in-game.

>>152323204
it would be extremely painful

>>152323305

I'm hoping that fighters make combat more fast paced but I just fucking know they'll be completely worthless and pop with 2 direct hits. Will definitely be completely useless for PvP.

>>152316346
The Gladius is real shit. I don't know why but it always feels like it's drifting.

>>152322970
>>152323140
>>152323305
Where are these images from?

>>152323727
Broadcasts from the VISION

>>152323727
The bible of "Things you Will Never Find in Elite: Dangerous, even when the update is out."

>>152323683

because it is always drifting

supposedly that got fixed in 2.5 though

>>152323838
Why does it drift?

>>152324024

fucked up IFCS for it that they never bothered correcting until recently

been like this since 2.0

>download sc because free
>literally unplayable, doesn't get past loading screen
o boy i am feeling the vision now :^)

>>152324024
>>152324137

anyway apparently the made the handling actually snappy like you'd expect, here's a vid with some annoying nerd talking about it over gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74q7GZ3z2_8

What is a Sabre's niche?

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>>152322194

More development

>>152324376
You're not missing anything. It feels like and is actual shit.

>>152324537

Going fast and having big fixed guns

It's glassier than a super hornet so trying to directly headon with one isn't advised

>>152324537
Low profile, quick, fragile. It's the fighter alternative to the Hornet.

>>152323807
>>152323795
But for real, sauce. I want to look at more pretty pictures.

>>152324376
wtf i hate trump now

>>152324727
Isn't the hornet the baseline fighter all other ships are balanced against?

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>>152324376

Have you tried turning it off and into the trash?

>>152324805

i hope not

cig would do well never to balance ships according to shit like AC where you're stuck in a cage with hornets

>>152324805
I don't think so, that wouldn't make much sense.

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Outside, pitching arse over nose, the freighter they'd murdered scattered its guts and prolapsed its crew. Shat its atmosphere with hideous grace and an undeniably romantic sparkle.
And so:
She laughed her breathless laugh. She groaned her mannish groan. She rolled her eyes and repositioned her legs, a lizardlike yank, a feral smile, to pull him deeper inside.
'Myquel,' she whispered, gripping him. 'Myquel Dobroba Pela-LeSire Lequire.'
It had become her habit, he'd noticed, to murmur his name at least once during sex. Just as it had become his to wonder, when she said it, if she were adoringly savouring the syllables or mocking the pomposity of his having so many. Whichever it was (and with Teesa there was a good chance it was both) the neurotic uncertainty was always banished within moments. Her next movement, her next shudder, her next moan. There simply wasn't room in his brain, he'd accepted, for both her and rational thought.
'We should rabbit,' he mumbled, clinging feebly to common sense. 'Right? Snag the goodies and go.'
She ignored it. Another flex of her legs. A groan. A re-anchoring of her hips. He'd known she would.

Why can't I switch the front gun out on my Avenger?

>>152325048
>>152320898
what am i looking at?

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>>152325168
What's wrong Ronald-kun?

>>152325048
hot
Almost as hot as being forced by a Thargoid to mate.

>>152325369
The sad part is if you take E:D's not planetary stuff, and add NMS's planetary stuff, but fix it up a bit you'd have an amazing comfy game.

>You will never be comfy in your python as the snow falls gently around you.

>>152325817
I want Star Citizen with ED's sound design.

>>152325817
As long as the creature generation is refined and given rules. Goddamn the creature generation is terrible.

>negative 90C planet
>Green grass everywhere
>Poisonous creatures that belong in a jungle hopping around
>Fish with Sabre teeth
>Some other creature with sabre teeth
>But are herbivores

>>152325940
SC only needs better weapon sounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVf1GKqaoMI

>>152326024
don't repost my sound stuff cunt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfCyuv7VF3A

I've been skeptical of SC for years but that new demo was incredible. The only things that seems subpar are the movement and FPS mechanics, are they going to be overhauled at some point?

>>152323727
http://www.gamestar.hu/gamescom/elite-dangerous-horizons-2-2-guardians-update-gamescom-2016-frissites-ujdonsagok-215519.html

So, I was playing Elite: Dangerous - Horizons in the past few days, and I found a planet, with a mountain in a crater. I figured I’d be “Crazy”, and land on the top of the Mountain, so I did.

I was there, landed a few minutes, dozens of lightyears from anywhere, and this twinkly piano piece began to play. Looking out, over the majesty of stars, sitting so Small and alone, I admit that I teared up a little. I did. I was overcome by it all.

It’s incredible that the life’s work of a Cambridge scholar, to create a believable simulation of our galaxy, has all but come true. And it’s only going to get more real. Imagine the next generation of Quantum computing, a Thousand times faster than modern Machines. Though most likely, some of that will be swallowed up by larger displays with Higher resolutions.

Still, The Stars My Destination.

>>152326024
>SC only needs better weapon sounds.
SC weapons sounds are awful. ED isn't much better. House of the Dying Suns's weapons sounds are awesome. Has a really nice muffled bassy sound for the autocannon.

>>152326809
The FPS mechanics are rather unique in Star Citizen. It's based on your third person movement. This makes things a bit clunky, but once you get used to it, it doesn't feel all that bad.

>>152310473
>redeemer sucks so badly they had to make a vanguard variant to replace it
eat shit paul

>>152327259
BRUTUS REPRESENT

>>152327249
I guess that's what I hate about it. I thought having a dedicated FPS team would mean polished traditional mechanics.

is there a way to fix the long load times in ED when you open menus like the mission board or open the system map?

>>152327692

You can sit in SC for 2 minutes but can't wait 10 seconds for a menu to load?

>>152327692
Nope, because it has to contact the BGS.

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>>152327692
>fix

>>152327624
Yeah, I sort of grew to like it, though. It feels a bit more meaty and less floaty, if a bit clunkier than most other things out there. Once they get the equipment into the game and fix armor protection versus firearms it'll be pretty solid.

>>152327775

no. it's infuriating, immersion destroying, and literally gamebreaking for me to wait so long for a damn menu

>>152322970

I can't wait for someone to jump right down the barrel of a polar jet and cry about unavoidable death.

>>152327624

ILLFONIC was hired initially to handle the FPS portion of the game because of their previous experience with cryengine. They screwd the pooch and their contract wasn't renewed. Thankfully the F42 Frankfurt studio was formed and will sprinkle their german superiority over ILLFONIC's shitfest.

BUT Christ's vision demands more unorthodox FPS mechanics. Clunky = Fidelity.

We'll see.

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>>152325048

>>152328752
>demands more unorthodox FPS mechanics. Clunky = Fidelity.
>If it's not muh Cawadoody it wiw awways be cwunky!

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/edg/ fags

was there any more info about the ayy lmaos aside from that one teaser trailer where you see a ship for a couple seconds?

>>152329684
Thargoids will attempt to mate with you

>>152329481
To be fair, there's a reason Halo and Call of Duty controls have become standard for FPS games. Not to say explorations haven't been successfully tried, or that they shouldn't be. I personally really like the way you have to actually think and consider where you need to go because you're committed when you move but it's definitely not everyone's cup of tea.

Should I melt my redeemer and my vanguard for this package, both ships are LTI and aside from my old game package with 325a they are the only ships I have.

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>>152324137
>>152324024
It always drifted, even before 2.0. It was just that before 2.0, the flight mechanics and mav thrusters let it fight off the drift so well that it really only happened if you let it, so no one cared about reporting the issue until after 2.0.

>>152330697
It would help if I linked it.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/UEE-Exploration-Pack-LTI

>>152324537
a p2w Super Gladius of course

>>152330829
Why did they change the mechanics?

>>152330095
Of course, there's always a "standard" for everything until someone does something better or different in a good way. Retards will whine their heads off anytime you try something new.

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>>152325157
They broke a bunch of equipment slots on ships for the big item overhaul that they've been promising since 2.0. They broke the ability to change shields, they broke the avenger's main gun, they broke the super hornet's middle slot they broke the Delta's rocket pod (they fixed them so they're removable again in 2.5 though) they just broke missile racks in 2.5, etc

>>152330840
completely up to you. Personally I would prefer the Redeemer and Vanguard, but I'm not a fan of the Carrack. The package you want does provide a lot more ship per dollar though, in terms of size, if that's what you're going for.

>>152331320
Eh, realistically I would still be melting it all for the Polaris, whenever that happens, and just getting the other smaller ships again later now that I think about it.

>>152331386
I guess the real reason why I want a carrack is that I am very interested in seeing what they have for the surprise mentioned for the ship and because it would be cool to have a dedicated exploration ship.

>>152329684
We'll get more information in the last GamesCon stream, probably on Sunday.

why are we clumping SC and ED together?
The game versions are confusing.
also, is there going to be any more ED reveals? Or is that horseshit that FD gave out the only shit we're getting?

>SC has atmospheric flight model now
>"If you have a ship like the gladius you'll handle better than something like the aurora"
spaceplane whiners BTFO

>>152330948
A) SC's equivalency of forum dads kept bitching about ships 'not feeling like they had any mass' (mass in this case meaning slow and sluggish as fuck) and how it felt too much like a FPS in space

B)they wanted to add a new physics system that would actually take into account a ship's thrust mass ratio when determining it's speed and handling... which they then deactivated because having the game recheck speed calculations for dozens of ships every time someone took some damage or fired off a missile bogged the game down bad. Also it lead to silly things like the connie getting faster when it got an engine shot off, or racers intentionally smashing their ships into the walls to knock parts off and get a speed boost.

>>152331386
then I guess keep it as 2 separate LTI ships as opposed to the package so that if you decide you want something else down the line you have the option to upgrade one of them and retain LTI.

>>152331804
Could I not CCU the terrapin if I dislike it as part of the package?

>>152331849
isn't all that shit grouped under the same package? All or nothing?

>>152331596
I honestly never thought we'd see the day that 'but they fly in atmosphere' bullshit was actually vindicated.

cant wait to see the starfarer and caterpillar in atmo

>>152331926
I dont know, that is why I am asking.

>>152331926
>>152331849
nvm looks like you can't melt the ships in the package individually, but you can CCU them. Go for it then.

>>152331930
probably about all they'll be able to do is slowly hobble down to a landing spot. I'm curios how some of the weirder small ships will handle, like the mustang or cutlass.

>>152332068
>but you can CCU them
I can CCU the shitty Terrapin then?

Also should I melt my old package, it only really had this:
Digital Game Soundtrack
Digital Star Map
Digital Star Citizen Manual
Squadron 42 Digital Download
Star Citizen Digital Download

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>>152332226
they stupidly broke up packages awhile back, so if you have a package that still has both SQ42 and SC you should probably keep it.

>>152332375
The one I was looking at had them both as well, just no star map, soundtrack, or manual.

>>152332226
ya you can

You'll only lose
Digital Game Soundtrack
Digital Star Map
Digital Star Citizen Manual

Some people care about these things some don't, you could always pirate them all afterwards anyways seeing as how they are digital.

BUT if you want the Polaris and it doesn't come in a package you'll need another package

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>>152332208
>losing enough engines on a freighter that you have to crash land in the middle of nowhere and defend the ship on foot, or with dragonflies

>>152332526
>you could always pirate them all afterwards anyways seeing as how they are digital.
That was my plan, but you do raise an excellent point
>BUT if you want the Polaris and it doesn't come in a package you'll need another package
I doubt it will come with a package, the other concept ships havent so why would this one?

>>152332226
Do not melt a package with both Squadron 42 and Star Citizen. You'll have to rebuy one or the other.

So is the Argo not even on sale for some LTI token?

>>152332691
argo sale will go up when 2.5 goes live.

>>152332691

nope

rip my dreams of an ez ccu lti

Argo doesn't have a jump drive does it? It's just a short range transport ship

>>152332878
>>152332897
Any guesses on the price of that thing?

Really just want that M50 tho

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>Fly the hornet, sabre, or any 300 series
>constantly get fucked over by missiles in AC
>fly avenger
>dodge missiles without even thinking about it

is this placebo or is it actually really hard to missile an avenger

Hmmmm...

Melt all my ships except the Freelancer MIS and add 30 dollars for the Exploration pack.

Or be satisfied with a Carrack, Reliant, LN and Delta.

I am not that impressed with the Reliant so far even if i expect improvements.

On the other hand, do i need two Exploration ships?

How do I get into multiplayer in AC? Ican't seem to find any people whenever I go to spectrum or whatever.

I can't earn REC via singleplayer can I?

>>152333013

>The ARGO MPUV with the Cargo Module will be sold individually for $35.
>The ARGO MPUV with the Personnel Transport Module will be sold individually for $40.
>When the concept sale arrives, there will be a 2-pack (one of each) for $70.

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He rides the Cobra of space!
He guides through all storms
Into the land of gentle winds.
Though we sleep by the snake's den,
He guards our dreaming souls.
Shunning the desert heat,
He hides us in a cool hollow.
The gleaming of his white teeth
Guides us in the night.
By the braids of his hair
We are lifted up to heaven!
Sweet fragrance, flower-scented,
Surrounds us in his presence.
He comes from the east,
The sun stands at his back.
All things are exposed. In the full glare of light-
His eyes miss no thing,
Neither light nor dark.
Vision writes on clean sand!
Braben . . . Braben . . . Braben . . .
He stills all storms-
His eyes kill our enemies,
And torment the unbelievers.
From the spires of Achenar
Where dawnlight strikes
And clear water runs,
You see his shadow.
In the shining summer heat
He serves us bread and milk-
Cool, fragrant with spices.
His eyes melt our enemies, torment our oppressors
And pierce all mysteries
He is Braben . . . Braben . . . Braben . . .Braben . . .

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>still no storage

>>152334637
You have a massive galaxy that will never be fully explored to roam in, anon.
What makes you think you could store anything in it?
~VISION~

>>152318520
Avenger stalker.

What happened to nmsg? I can't find it.

>>152335393
Some fuck messed up the OP so it just died

>>152335393
check /trash/

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God damn that Star Citizen presentation was disappointing. Why was that fat fuck making a big deal out of every single feature? Functioning elevators, NPCs with schedules, procedural missions, and dynamic soundtracks have all been a pretty regular thing in video games the past 10+ years.

The best part had to be when he talked about how one player could do the mission in the station while another player went and did something else. Wow two players in a multiplayer game doing different things. What innovation.

>>152333113
Please respond.

>>152335393

it is still up but OP fucked up the thread title

search 'png vs jpg'

>>152335865

Probably didn't want to reveal the good shit till CitIzencon.

>>152333113

You can get REC from Vanduul Swarm, but to get to multiplayer you have to click Spectrum Match

>>152335865

People didn't give a shit about that stuff so much as the seemless planetary entry/exit, which actually was somewhat impressive.

>>152335865
The crowd reactions were even worse. They cheered anything and everything.
>guy opens door
>ladder extends out
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
what the fuck, that was one of the earliest features we saw ages ago

>>152336304
>the good shit
3.0 was pretty nice, and we all know sq42 is just the same game but single player

>>152336465
it's bait anon
the only shit other people had done in big games like this is dynamic soundtracks, planetary entry and NPCs having simulated lives (cities skylines)

>>152336632

I think it was a joke, like the guy saying "wow!" when he was getting out of bed.

>>152335865
>implying modern games aren't made of tiny levels with "elevators" that are really just buttons that move you to a loading screen
You may be literally retarded

>>152323008
well for most people having your primary and secondary pips anywhere near eachother at long range is really useful

then again im that guy who runs m3a and m4as on every mount of every ship

>>152336632
The ladder coming out was kind of a joke feature to spotlight. I believe the freelancer's side door was fucked up for a while now.

>>152336372
Fair enough, does it show somewhere ingame what you get when playing swarm? Spectrum seems to put me into an endless queue though or is it just really slow in general?

The Thargoid sets upon you as a hambeast sets upon a block of cheese. The sickening odor of its unwashed nethers assaults your nose, taking every ounce of self control to not regurgitate your last meal, unsure as to the effect this would have on the creature already aroused from your receptive position beneath it. The engorged mating rod of the thargoid pulses and emits a thick slippery substance over your lower body. Horror fills you as you begin to feel it dissolve your flight suit. A heavy weight forms in your stomach and forces its way upward. As you let your stomach contents loose upon the floor of your besieged ship the thargoid detects the odor and lets out a loud howl. His mating rod is now fully engorged. With one swift motion he penetrates you. Your apparent tightness taking him by surprise, he wheezes inwards and bucks upwards nearly dislocating your hips as your colon strains to not rupture. As soon as the ordeal began it ended, the Thargoid now expired from the mating process lies next to you, his member still fully engorged.

However terrible your pain, you wager you dodged a bullet, as the female was not present to deposit her eggs into the helpless host. A steady 'clink' 'clink' 'clink' emits from the back of your ship, a reminder of the female impaled by a failed structural reinforcement when she forced her way in. Her eggs dropping out of her at a regular pace and rolling around as your ship's thrusters attempt to steady its course, thrown off balance by the two hulks attached to your hull.

It will be a long trip home.

>>152336869

i have a freelancer and I don't remember a problem with the door although i've only had it for a few months

>>152334339
brabo flies the >asp though

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Yes yes, well done Star Citizen, however!

when is 2.worthplaying coming out?

>>152337000

thargoids are all female

delete this

>>152336689
Bethesda games alone have had literally every single feature listed in that post at some point.

>>152337135
>Bethesda
Todd go home

>>152337135
>bethesda
an MMO running Oblivion's shitty """schedule""" for NPCs would still be fucking revolutionary, but it sounds like they're taking it further than "sits in bar eating from 7-10, sleeps 10:15-8am, stands at market being a vendor 8:30-6:55"

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Friendly reminder that Raxxla will be found far before Star Citizen is out of alpha/beta.

>>152337193
NEVER
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3773823

>>152309893
Anyone here play the free Oolite?

what is todays vision out of the gamescom?

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>>152337193
You gave a con artist hundreds of dollars for keys to a virtual ship to a video game that won't ever get released. That money would have been better spent on Fallout 4 and its Season Pass. Our new Contraptions DLC adds functional elevators to settlement building.

When is netcoding being fixed?

>>152337983
They didn't give any dates

>>152337584
Is SA ever funny? I hear it's supposed to be a comedy website but in not seeing any.

>>152337983
3.0

Is Star Citizen being a scam still a meme? Why is it still a meme?

Can't people see that buying a ship is literally donating? That it acts as a virtual fundraiser?

Why are people so quick to call big concepts scams? Sure No Man's Sky is a scam, but Star Citizen is delivering slowly but surely. Do people have no patience? "Never released" when there's a public alpha available that receives free updates.