/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

Posted in the dead thread.
Let's say there's a bunch of objects that have to move in a certain pattern. Should these objects contain their own pattern or should it be held in a manager?

>>152252270
man I don't mind anime op but at least try to make it gamedev related

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Can we have a minute of silence

>>152252431
>qts aren't relevant to lewd jam
anon pls

>>152252427
neither, send each of them a command
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_pattern
if you're using C# this is easily done with delegates
in java it's done with streams

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Made the bare basics of a turn-based combat system.

>>152252270
Here are the things you forgot:

Helpful Links: http://tools.aggydaggy.com/# (Still in beta)
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
AGDG Logo: http://pastebin.com/iafqz627

> Chats
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vgamedevcrew
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=vidyadev

> Engines
GameMaker: https://www.yoyogames.com/gamemaker
Godot: https://www.godotengine.org/
Haxe: http://haxeflixel.com/
LÖVE: https://love2d.org/
UE4: https://www.unrealengine.com/what-is-unreal-engine-4
Unity: https://unity3d.com/

> Models/art/textures/sprites
http://opengameart.org/
http://www.blender-models.com/
http://www.mayang.com/textures/

> Free audio
https://machinimasound.com/
http://freesound.org/browse/
http://incompetech.com/music/
http://freemusicarchive.org/

>>152252641
You stole my battle system idea.

I mean, I can't exactly complain since I'm a nodev, but still.

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Making the tall rectangle flash white was going to give me a seizure with a box at that size, so it will use the toned down version. Ice Block is also now functional [again] with improved hit detection. It can block projectiles [fire attacks 1 shot it] and hinders enemy movement. Also damage enemies if it spawns inside of them or falls on top of them. Now to plan out the thing's attacks.

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Will i become a gay if i start coding? I heard u may become a gay if u do so. Pls answer quick, very important.

>>152252943
alot of people think this but its not true, it's just a correlation. in reality you turn gay if you dont finish a game.

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decided to get the menu basics done now to save some headaches later - a lot of graphics are wip, but easily swappable
i'll add either gamepad layout types or custom layout configuration somewhere down the line

>>152253139
why do you have frameskip?

>>152252881
what kind of weapon the player is supposed to have to do attacks like those?

>>152253260
it's for maximum toaster-compatibility

>>152253139
I wish I knew where to even start with at least making UI graphics that slick.

>>152253371
m8

>>152253139
dude, I have a mechanic suggestion for you. when the umbrella is open, let the player tap a button to have the character blow up into it giving them lift.

>>152253296
He's supposed to be using magical based attacks. The idea is he's using a catalyst that can change shape. The magical-slash/physical attacks are supposed to be the only actual attacks where he uses the catalyst itself as a weapon though.

>tfw can't dev because obseesed with playing weeb bait pandering games on my vita

>>152253617
Cool. Hope you'll find good artist.

>>152252631
The Wikipedia definition is kind of obtuse can, can you provide a better definition?

>>152252881
You've always been my favorite dev just for having a very clean and observable debug information. I imagine you have a (relatively) good debugging experience.

>>152253737
>tfw addicted to smite

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I wish blender wouldn't be so tsundere with me this morning.

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>>152253828

>tfw addicted to spuds

>>152253819
>60 thousands lines of debug info
>clean

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>>152252943
if you abandon too many games you literally get cuckolded

>>152253940
don't lose your head over it

>>152253813
rather than create a class that handles all the movement for all your enemies, create a class that creates an object/function that dictates how the enemy moves and then give that to the enemy. This way you can easily switch it out, modify the AI and have each enemy react individually. It's a much cleaner way to do it.

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>>152254073
Don't tell me what to do

Modeling hands is bullshit.

>>152253990
didn't you abandon your one and only game because you got cuckolded

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>>152253426
thanks
>>152253557
the umbrella is already a massive boost towards the jump distances, so i am not sure if extending that even further is a good idea
thanks for feedback though

>>152252504
>random qt
at least try to use one of agdg's cuties.

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Added enemy that dodges player attacks. It has wan mirrion hp just for testing purposes and graphics are obliviously placeholders. It's really annoying to fight against and there are still some bugs in it's AI.

Waiting for my artist to come up with something.

Next I'll add blocking enemies.

>>152254274
>one of agdg's cuties.
I would if we had one

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>>152254228
no I abandoned it because I was too busy being in love with my qt ex
I got cucked because I abandoned a game. don't worry though I'm making a new one!

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>>152254193
>box
>make flat rectangle
>loop cuts, 3x3x3
>shrink bottom loop to create palm
>extrude fingers

>>152253793
>>152253819
Thanks anons. And yeah, I don't know how I'd live without the debugging info text.

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>>152254370

>>152254370
how new?

>>152254398
You should work on your game more instead of dogposting on /agdg/

>>152254451
>how to make shitty model

If I wanted to half ass it, I'd be done with my game by now.

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>>152252943
Only if you plan on becoming a top notch coder.

>>152254485
Bunny isn't cute though.
>>152254487
I've most likely been here longer than you.

>>152252943
Depends. You might avoid that by making lewd games that arent full homo.

Otherwise you might become a gay.

>>152252641
Megaman Battle Network for old people?

>>152254597
The you just have bad taste. Got it.

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>>152254597
>Bunny isn't cute though.
You crossed the line.
Leave and never come back.

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>>152254532
Nigga, if it's troubling you, than start simple and work your way up.

>>152252725
That's fine anon, the game is only gonna be a small demo with 3 levels. I'm doing it to learn rather than to release something commercial, so get back to working on yours.

>>152254731
>>152254743
wwwww

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If your game worked on both ways, platformer or top down, which one would you choose ?

>>152254854
both at the same time

>>152254854
topdown. Plaftormer market is oversaturated.

>>152254703
Synopsis: Programmer, Artist, Musician and Ideaguy venture together into dungeon of dev. There they'll have to battle chadbros, their mother and even depression to reach the end and finish their game.

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Different (arguable) bullet patterns generated on button press.

>>152254854
The hell is happening in that gif?

Top-down. Not enough of them out there.

>>152254854
Make it likem Blaster Master on NES. Some parts are sidescroller and some are topdown (well more like in zelda but still)

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Well, all the clutter models i've done so far are having the intended effect, I figure if I make perhaps 50% more of them it will really start feeling like a exploration cabin. (Need clutter like tools, have none of them right now).

But man, do I hate that you can't "recenter" objects in UE4. I often model things in sets, for example 8 different food cans. But they are separated in the FBX scene so that they can easily be textured, but when imported into UE4 every separate model has its pivot point offset by how much the model was offset in the FBX scene.

§I could save literal hours if anyone know a easy fix for this.

quick, molyneux me a simple gameplay idea that would only involve clicking

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>>152255098
except with cute girls

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>>152255098
tree growing simulator where you decide where to grow branches so you can best house woodland creatures
basically sim tower, but a tree

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>>152255098
A cursor PvP game where damage is done by clicking on the other cursor

Bunnydev here, I've been thinking about the control scheme settings.
Should I make a sort of test track so the player can try the controls to pick the one that feels the best?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11027307
http://www.strawpoll.me/11027307
http://www.strawpoll.me/11027307

I have to work on a prototype for a 2D menu-heavy game in Unity. Do you guys use any Tweening assets from the store?
I see that iTween and DOTween are the most popular.

Basically it's to make all those animations that bounce around when you press buttons and shit.

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>>152253139
Here I was, proud of my gui/menu progress, and you post this.

>>152255323

Fund it

>>152254076
That sounds much easier to implement. I'll give it a shot,thanks.

>>152255393
I find it better to use normalized functions and coroutines rather than deal with that

>>152255098
a diablo clone

>>152255048

What the fuck man there is literally "Import transform" setting in mesh editor that let's you do exactly that. Set new values, reimport (there is a button for that, don't throw the mesh out and then put it back in.)

Also when you import in all those useful settings that lazy fucks skip there is also Import Transform tab. So you can recenter your meshes when you import them.


Seriously did you think they centered every model at Epic instead of adding this to their engine?

>>152252943
a lot of devs end up being trans, it's a serious risk. I'd estimate there's a 15% chance you'll end up in panties.

>>152255485
yeah, doing it by myself shouldn't be too hard. But there are 2 reasons why I want to use something already made:
1. I will work with artists, so they can change the behavior later if they like, easily, without me having to setup a lot of editor stuff.
2. It's supposed to already work without bugs.

But thanks for your input though.

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>>152252270
>Decide to take a break from gamedev to focus on coding and webdev
>Only been a week

Well here I am again.

>>152254335
>It's really annoying to fight against
Do you think it'll make for an interesting challenge rather than frustration?

Local game dev competition, have up until the 31st of october or so, can possibly win fully paid trip to GDC, any ideas guy wanna do some free work?

>>152255786
A drop-down of easing type enums will take all of 10 seconds and easing functions are already well documented and not prone to non-obvious bugs

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>>152255315
this is LITERALLY an ass-kissed award-winning mobile game already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT3HxcZDLYo

>>152254335
I have question about blocking.

I was thinking about making 2 types of blocking enemies
>with normal shield, has 2 blocking stances, low and high and if you do high attack and it blocks it with high block, you can do low attack and damage the enemy
>with tower shield, blocks both low and high attacks

And then magical variants of those which can block spells too. How does this sound?

>>152255849
It takes some time to get used to. If I set HP value to like 100 or something (so they can take around 5 hits) I can kill them without getting hit once, so they are not complete bullshit (even without using spells, which will make the fights easier). It just feels annoying because they are only enemies currently that aren't like braindead.

>>152255554
you know what I hate though? when you add the skeletal mesh component to a Character, you have to rotate it 90 degress and lower it to the floor. And you even have to do that with their own Mannequin guy. Why the hell didn't they just build that shit so it's facing the right direction to begin with?

>>152256084
People underestimate the love of A E S.

>>152255554
>Nicely ask for help
>One guy not even having read the post calls me names while describing how to fix an unrelated problem
>I'm the lazy fuck

Sometimes I forget I'm on 4chan.

The problem was that since the meshes separating on import caused a "reimport" request to import the whole model back in previous versions, I'm glad to see that they apparently fixed this recently in blender since I can now properly import sub-meshes from an fbx made in it which is something i previously was unable to, so you misunderstanding my question actually helped me in the end.

Now I just need to go back and re-export and import all models made with previous versions of blender, which thank god is only like 7.

Music popped into my head and it took me a full five minutes to identify where it came from. A short and simple, but pretty MIDI track for a collab I spend a long time following, years ago.

One day the forums it was hosted in collapsed, causing the loss of much work followed by the death of the project. It fills me with a vague feeling of melancholy that's hard to shake off.

Here's a moment of silence to all the dead games out there, to all the devs who didn't make it.
Time wants them forgotten. They will not be.

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>he hasn't gotten himself a deal with a publisher yet

>>152257107
> he got a deal with black shell media

>>152256463
so much this.

Seriously dude try ask around on reddit the community there is so much better not to mention they're not a bunch of racist and sexists

fuck 4chan

>>152257127
They're not even a publisher, are they?

>>152256084
The bar for mobile games is incredibly low because of shovelware and megacorp freemium bullshit. Anyone who cares about mobile games enough to give them awards is going to absolutely asphyxiate themselves on any sort of passable art game that isn't aimed at ADD riddled children or designed to jew you every 10 seconds.

Also, the creators are probably the typical Seattle hipster crew who are friends with the right people and can get their game promoted by reviewers and award groups. Or yanno, they paid for the publicity.

>>152257202
I thought they marketed/published

>>152256463
>>152257145
Grow a pair you fucking pussies

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>>152253139
Holy shit motherfucker. I just noticed that your characters use the umbrellas for, well, everything.

I was going to make a game about umbrellas too, with a completely different mechanics, however. You're not gonna sue me are you
>>152257145
>try ask around on reddit the community there is so much better not to mention they're not a bunch of racist and sexists
Kill yourself or just fuck off back to r*ddit, newfriend

>>152257282
they do marketing and PR
basically shills for hire, not publishers

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>>152257145
>>152257317
>Le old everyone is always mean on 4chan and all communities must be mean 24/7, and if you comment on someone making an ass of themselves you need to grow a pair LEL aint I random and edgy?
>Its on old reddit meme but it checks out

I never understood why spoopy consistently get this amount of hate. Except for the reposts has he done anything but actually sticking to his project for a long time? Why does he trigger nodevs so much? His game isn't even that impressive compared to alot of the other yesdevs here-

>>152257629

*slow claps and steps out of the shadows*

well well well... if it isn't reddit... I thought I might see you here

>>152257629
Are you still crying
Are you done

>>152257613
sounds like a publisher to me

>>152257846
Do you even know what publisher does?

>>152257887

Get credited for shit they had no creative input on?

>>152257887
do you know what a joke is?

>browsing sprite sheets for references
>discover Ding Dong Never Die
>no progress shall be made this day

>>152257774
>>152257825
>N-n-n-no we aren't triggered!
>But we sure are going to feed the trolls more b-b-because reasons!!!

>>152257997
Excuse me? Don't ever use that word again. Got it? Great.

My god, some people here.

>>152256097
To me the best use of blocking mechanics is for the player to have to block enemy attacks to get a safe hit in. Enemies that block are kind of tedious unless you make getting blocked dangerous and the enemy's block behaviour unpredictable.
For instance, I would retool your 'fast' high/low block guy as a guy who is constantly dodging and trying to tag you and will block you if you try to button mash attacks on him, then when you're blocked he will punish you with a big attack (that you could counter attack, maybe) or disarm you or something.
For you big constantly blocking guy, I might do something like making him completely invulnerable from the front, so that you have to dodge through him and hit him in the back, but if you're too slow he can swing around and nail you with his shield or quickly block you and punish you.

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>>152258096

>>152258096
>waaaaaaa

What were some problems with CoC that aren't content? So far I have:

>Combat is a dps race so the game is always grindy and never difficult
>All builds are the same in the end
>Certain combat options are too good at the start and the ones that to take time to get into yield the same results as the easy option
>Appearance doesn't matter much
>Lots of specials are worthless
>It is uncomfortable to reach T and 5 for one handed mode

And what could be improved about the UI?

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Whats up with that guy who has been ironically been posting aggressive shit all day?
Did someone shit in his muesli or something? And why is he shitposting here instead of /b/ or /pol/?

>>152258109
Why are you whitebois so triggered by 'nigger'?

>>152258364
Pretty sure he meant you misusing "rhetorical"

>>152258330
corruption of champions is a text based game

Say, I'm starting a 2D twin-stick shooter with some friends, and we're weighing our options on what to build it on.

None of us has the slightest idea about Unity, and we're miles more comfortable with game maker, but we agree on the thought that maybe learning Unity would be more beneficial for the project in the long run. Are there any major advantages to Unity if we're gonna be working exclusively on a 2D environment? Like, are there any things that Unity facilitates over game maker?

As a side note, we don't know C# either, but we kinda know our way with javascript, which is apparently also supported by Unity.

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>>152258330
>Appearance doesn't matter much

That's my main problem with the game. You could become some crazy monster but you can wield a sword perfectly fine. Also the harpies in the game are the worst kind of harpy. Wings and regular arms. Probably due to the 'you can do anything as anything without repercussions' aspect of it.

>>152258583
Just stick with game maker if your game isn't particularly complicated

>>152258583
no point in learning unity for a 2d game lmao kiddo wt are you smokin gimme some o dat

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http://www.strawpoll.me/11027608

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huehuehue

>>152258583
If you don't know Unity, but do know gamemaker, then there is no reason to learn unity for a simple 2d project.

>>152255389
>0 mathematics
Every single one of you is going to fail Including myself because I'm terrible at math

>>152258920
Really needs some minor looped motion rather than rigid poses

>held back by incompetence

>hate asking for help don't want random people doing the work for me/ thinking im trying to get them to do the work for me

>ask for help just told to get good

>keep getting frustrated because computers are so dumb

>just do it you fuck you know what I'm trying to do just fucking compile you piece of shit

Overall pretty good. I would rate programming a 7/10 experience.

in Unity 5 (Csharp) , is it necessary to create header scripts separate from main scripts?

e.g. in C you would make a
.h
and
.c

>>152258583
>javascript
Unity has it's own special version of javascript.

>>152259352
no, however it is necessary to have the basic cognitive abilities required to operate a search engine such as google

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>>152259345

>>152259309
read one of those 700 page mathematics for games books

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>>152259345

>tfw too intelligent to make games

>>152258920
You're pretty good..

>>152258920
how long have you been working on this? thinking of making a 3d game

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>>152255678
why would I be wearing panties if I'd become a man?

>>152259643
comfort.

>>152259336
Not that guy, but idle motion on a anime mech doesn't seem right.

>>152259470
really, I couldn't figure out a way to word that question so that google could properly interpret it

>>152258583
>2D
Unless you want your game to look 3D, using Unity provides no clear benefit over using Game Maker.

>>152259345
>>hate asking for help don't want random people doing the work for me/ thinking im trying to get them to do the work for me
>>ask for help just told to get good
Sounds like you're both 1) asking the wrong people and 2) having some anxiety issues. If you can afford to, find a therapist and a better community, buddy, it'll improve your progress tenfold. I know it did for me

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>>152258891
care sunteti tigani/bucuresteni/olteni de-aici, ma?

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>not a single dev is working on a lewd pokemon game

what the fuck

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Jet Set Radio with guns

>>152259717
actual mechs wouldn't have rigid locked gear joints as those wouldn't be able to absorb nearly as much shock as something with more give
just look at excavators, they're mechanical but have a lot of wobbling when moving

regardless, as it stands it looks very amateurish, and some motion would add a lot of life to the game

>>152259829
sorry mate, you are the only gypsy here.

>tfw I hurt myself today

>to see if i still feel

Trying to create a menu in Gamemaker

Is it possible/practical to draw a sprite without an object? Looking to draw buttons for my menu, but not sure how to make them appear

>>152258676
>>152258695
>>152259230
>>152259389
>>152259770

Alright, thanks!

>>152260208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0bZtf5MCzY

>>152260379
Didn't know they did a cover of this song, but they missed the whole feel of it and fucked it up.

>>152259969
>Play Overwatch
>Pick Lúcio

>>152260147
Actual mechs might not, but his mech is clearly an honarbru japanese mech that doesn't need rattle, bounce or need shock absorbents.
That perfectly stable side slide he's got going is a classic mecha trope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=932mooNi5ak&t=2m21s

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>>152259336
I suck at art and just can't get it right, always looks a lot shittier than simple poses. Thank god at full speed it's hard to pay attention to the animations thanks to all the particles and blur

>>152259621
Hard to say, I started working on this project 4 month ago but it used to be a lot different back then. Ported it to Unity in early May but then thanks to my HDD crapping out I lost lots of progress and dropped the project for a few weeks. Revived it 3 weeks ago and I am making steady progress since then.

>>152260178
rude

>>152260459
Nine Inch Nails wrote the song. Whatever version you're thinking of is the cover.

>>152260459
lel

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so if theres a win state, lose state, and player input does it count as a game by definition

>>152260257

don't. just don't do it that way.

make a parent object for all buttons instead.

>>152260880
But is it fun?

>>152260686
The game looks cool. Demo for DDX?
Ill definitely play it

>>152260924
yeah its pretty fun when door creating functions fuck up and place doors everywhere

>>152260880
Generally I would say yes, especially if your pic is your game. That looks very game-like

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the more I near the finish line, the less motivated I get. so close and yet so far

>>152260459
I know man, I feel the same way about Michael Jackson's parody of Eat It. He stripped it of all it's humor.

Do you agree that games shouldn't have gamey features?

>>152260880
the nice thing about roguelikes is that you can implement whichever crazy mechanic/feature/gameplay you can think of in relatively short time

so don't settle for a dcss clone my friend. I'll play your game in demo day if you submit it

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>>152260459

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Devs are nothing more than a game to me. spend months at a time strategically planting ideas into people's games, and shitposting. i get bored of someone after a while and move on to my next victim but that's okay because there's literally billions of you dirty little yesdevs to play around with.
Some devs actually believe I care about their games but the truth is I only use them for my personal advantage and entertainment

>>152260971
Thanks mate, I am doing my best to get a demo up and running till DD.

>>152261076
They say the last 10% of a project takes 90% of the time. And the last 10% of that time takes another 90%. That's why most people never complete a project and games get released unfinished. Because every time you reach that last 10%, it becomes the first 10% all over again on into infinity.

>>152261182
hey my dude it looks like dcss honestly only by accident

i started with dungeon array, so i put it at 0,0 in top left
then i added stats in whatever order i felt is the most important
then a log at bottom because that was the only space left

colors are a pure coincidence too because i fired up windows paint and just picked the wall color from the pre-set ones there and stats being the same color is yet another accident of which my dev skills are the cause

i dont even like dcss

>>152260880
>1 hits you for Slime damage

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>more and more people are joining the lewd jam and its still 27 days away

this gon be gud

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>>152261315
even me?

Need to practice my 3d.

Recommend me a reference image bros.

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>>152261458

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>>152261423
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that

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>>152260379
>Nine Inch Nails song besides 'Head Like a Hole' or 'Closer'

>>152261423
thats very interesting because 1 doesnt refer to amount of damage done but the ID of the monster

which happens to be 1 as well

>>152261581
Why are stock images such a prolific source of memery?

>>152261709
If you can think of a possible situation or exaggerated expression, then someone has made a stock photo of it.

>>152260257
Look up draw_sprite or draw_sprite_ext in the manual.

Don't listen to >>152260918 - this approach only works if your menu is no bigger than Continue/New Game/Quit.
If you're doing a 'Settings/Controls' sub-menu, for example, creating an object for every single fucking button is going to become a real mess real fast.

As a compromise, you can create a "menu parent" object that knows how to handle an array of strings (your options) and automatically display the appropriate text along with a button sprite.
Then make every single menu and sub-menu in your game an object inheriting from "menu parent". List every option in its array and give each of them a corresponding event_user that executes the right piece of code (toggle fullscreen, etc.). When switching between menus (i.e. main menu and settings menu) just create the new menu and destroy the current one.

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>>152254915
A friend told me that having both platformer and topdown on a game can be very unpleasant, and he may be right

>Starts game as a topdown
>gets in the mood
>next level is a platformer
>wtf just happened

Players can see this a insult, and they are right to feel it his way, maybe that is why there aren't many games that mixes platformer and topdown graphics out there

Anybody else want to comment on this ?

>>152260379

Post vintage dev music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqmRDV0a_70

>>152261938
The best way to implement this would be to start as one type and then do vehicle sections that are the other, like metal slug did.

Another way to do it could be to allow the player to flip the perspective papermario style. I've never been able to think of a way to make the idea not a gimmick and rip off though.

>>152259875
>>>/vp/
>>>/trash/
>>>/deviantart/

>>152261938
there arent many games that mix those two is that they are for quite different types of games

honestly if a game uses both equally (and topdown isnt just for hub world or level map or whatever) then its probably shit in both views

>>152261938
no you don't get it
both at the same fucking time literally

>>152262425
>top down platformer

I cannot remember one that did that.

I cannot imagine it being fun either.

>>152262176
>The best way to implement this would be to start as one type and then do vehicle sections that are the other, like metal slug did.

what if it is a game that involves puzzles and some puzzles are better topdown, meanwhile others are better platformer

>>152262303

>honestly if a game uses both equally (and topdown isnt just for hub world or level map or whatever) then its probably shit in both views

they would be used dfferently tho

>>152262425
are there any examples to this ?

>>152262065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k07cflKCl-Y

>>152261938
It's difficult to make multiple gameplay styles fit together with equal importance (i.e. there's no 'minigame' to the 'main game').
You've got to clearly market the game as both at once. You've got to keep the feel of your game in both. And finally, you've got to tie them together so they aren't entirely disconnected, and transition between both states if not seamlessly, at least cleanly.

In the end though I'm pretty sure it's doable. But it's not easy.

>>152262593
That would be a hard transition to pull of unless you pulled a paper-mario/fez and allowed the player to rotate the perspective at will. Failing that you would want to introduce the changing perceptive in the first level and change it regularly so that the player understands that it's part of the game and it doesn't feel out of place.

>>152262635
I love this movie I watched it dozens of times

>>152262303
>then its probably shit in both views
According to that Super Contra is shit then?

>>152262702
And sometimes the elements by one are overshadowed by the other.

Like, I'd say that the Quest for Glory series felt still more point and click than RPG. Because those elements basically only let you choose three different solutions, there was no way for you to make any lasting decisions or have an impact on the story.

>>152262510
>>152262593
lol i dunno make it fun
maybe double screens, or if you could switch between the two for puzzle gameplay, or have one of them as a minimap-like thing

>>152262425
ALttP tried that, when you get the feather and are allowed to jump. It was clunky as shit.

Many top down or isometric games with jump mechanics end up feeling off somehow. The best use of it I've seen is when it's a switch from side-scroller to top-down for certain areas, similar to Blaster Master.

Jumping when all you can see is the ground and the character's head isn't all that fun. You'd need a tilted perspective to make it work.

I cannot imagine a game built around that though, but give it a shot. There's obviously not many out there.

>>152262936
I love the Mortal Kombat movie I watched it dozens of times

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I've never really done 2D so I'm trying to learn.
I'll make sprites and 3D of them as well, already made some progress on one model.

Are they cool at all?

>>152263054
Crap I meant Link's Awakening.

>>152263071
They look pretty good for never having done 2D. My only real gripes are their hands and the one on the right's face.

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>School starts on Monday
>Demo isn't ready
>I'll only be working on my demo between classes, homework, and possibly a small job

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>>152263208
I wouldn't call that a platformer as much as it had a few platforming elements.

>>152261938

Plenty of games do it and are fine

Link's Awakening has side scroller sections

TMNT for the NES has both

Etc.

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Man I thought having arm IK would make thins easier.

>>152263302
Aw crap, didn't mean to post that yet. Anyway, I'm not sure whether the chest should be in there.

At least the standing idle sprite is done.

Now I only need the side, front, and back view.

And animate them.

And add other animations.

If I hurry I might get most of them done by the end of November.

>>152262510

Gremlins 2

>>152262941
that game is neat thanks for sharing

>>152263340
Love the ears wobbling.

>>152263238
I completely cannot into hands and feet yet.
What's wrong with the face?

>>152263340
CUTE

>>152263302
That was my point. It was an example of a top-down with platforming elements, which were terrible.

I can't think of any top down games that are actually focused on platforming.

>>152263058
Still one of the best video games movie

>>152261938
Bionic Commando did it, and that game is RAD. AS. FUCK.

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>>152261315
you have no power over me Machiavelli.

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>>152263071
very good

>>152263814
I wouldn't call it terrible. They never were so prevalent that they annoyed me, and you still knew where Link would land by his shadow.

>>152263816
Warcraft beats it now, but it was pretty good for two decades with the crown.

>>152263565
>What's wrong with the face?
Just looks a bit man-ish to me.

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Please help me decide on the main character
http://www.strawpoll.me/11028028

>>152263983
True, they weren't so prevalent to be annoying but they were my least favorite bits.

It's an awkward angle for platforming.

>>152263340
just copy the arm bones, apply the ik solver and make a switch that the movements into the fk bones. they probably have scripts for that in blender (im assuming you are using blender).

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If I have time I'd like to make a Game Over Animation where she sits down crying. I guess I should implement the game over state first though

>>152263989

Nah, Prince of Persia unseated it

Haven't seen Warcraft so I can't judge there.

>>152261424
>tfw no time to make lewd game

>>152263071
Fingers and arms in general are pretty fucked up.
boobs looks pretty awful too. There was at least on tutorial pic floating around agdg on those.

The texture on that staff is also pretty awful. Try to look for guides how to draw wood texture.

Other than that, looks pretty good.

>>152264270
Goddamn what did they do to strawpoll?

>>152264418
>Prince of Persia
Kill yourself

>>152264271
I actually remember trying to make impossible jumps with the feather + pegasus boots combo. I think I even made it into the Signpost Maze with it despite being supposed to get there only with the hookshot.

>>152264405
Obviously you will add another facial expression for that. How does a texture change like that work?

>>152264542
It's definitely better than their most recent redesign, but there was no reason to change it in the first place

>>152260686
add sparks when feet are touching the ground and going full speed

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>>152264559
>he doesn't like Prince of Persia

>>152263872
>Bionic Commando
looking at it right now

>>152263989
never played warcraft on original servers so I don't know the lore very well, hard to tell for me, but I found the movie average at least - but it is a very good representation of video game movie

>tfw can't get mobile controls to be smooth on input.acceleration
even with the lerp / lowpass filter it still feels jerky when moving in and out of the deadzone.

>>152265110
You can read up on the lore with the manuals for 2 and 3. Blizzard has made them available for free. I do think a good deal got retconned though later.

>>152264270
>No loli catgirl option

>>152265278
I thought it'd be an overkill

>>152265274
I know a little about the lore from 3 since I played it quite a little, but not much the campaign

LOL I totally had forgotten that WoW is the lat game on the series

3 is by far my favorite

>>152265427
make loli (male)

>>152264270
Grown up guy who ends up being turned into a loli catgirl

>>152265551
now that would be shota and not loli

>>152264559
>not liking prince of persia

Games being "too short" isn't a problem that exists. Games that are forcefully inflated to meet arbitrary length requirements are the worst.

>>152265689
>Games being "too short" isn't a problem that exists.
Can you explain why it isn't outside not liking the other extreme?

>>152264559

What are you, some kind of fun-hating faggot?

>>152265689
>Games that are forcefully inflated to meet arbitrary length requirements are the worst.
most AAA games

idea guy here

what if cartoon opening were on spotify

>>152265689
>Games being "too short" isn't a problem that exists

It is when the price/length ratio is way out of whack.

2,49 to 4,99 for Gone Home? Sure. 19,99? No way.

>>152265945
>what if cartoon opening were on spotify
what did he mean by this?

>>152266029
*she
i'm actually a girl xD

>>152265278
.swf

>>152265264
That's because mobile sensors have like 0.1ms latency even on the most new and expensive phones

>>152265639
did you forget about
>Catgirl (male)

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>>152265945
>what if cartoon opening were on spotify
what did he mean by this?

Would learning C++ be a a good starting point if I wanted to learn python? How similar are the languages as an absolute beginner?


Kind of a weird question, but I have a book on C++ programming and I would hate for it to go to waste.

>>152266229
Python is easier and it's a better starting point to learn programming in general, so I'd do it the other way around.

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>>152264615
Yes, I already have a "crying" face.
What I do is swap the texture on the face material when the event is triggered, then swap it back when it's over.

>>152266229

not even close. Just learn python, if you want to learn python. It's easier to get into python than it is to get into C++.

There's plenty of python tutorials online.

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idea guy here
a game about smelling cute girls' gloves

>>152266229
Python is literally the easiest thing to learn, just learn Python. C++ is harder than Python.

>>152266229
Start with python.
But learn another langauge afterwards, python is terrible for gamedev. C#/java or C++ will be good.

>Trying to Voxel
Would a god game still be a god game without midifiable terrain?

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>>152266348
>smelling

>>152266332
So that's how it's done in all those low poly games.

>>152266467
>midifiable terrian

Wait. No. Okay.

Terrain that makes midi sounds.

>>152266414
>python is terrible for gamedev. C#/java or C++ will be good.
Why?

Only reason I want to learn Python is so that I can make stuff with GODOT which they claim is similar to python

>>152265689
It depends on the price. If I spend 60$ on a game I expect 60$ worth of good content. This is why cheaper games and shorter games are fine. Bite sized content is something people want now a days, the entire mobile game market is evidence of this.

LEARN GODOT THEN

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> make huge amounts of progress
> get the skill system functional
> get character generation working
> added skill targetting
> can't show off to AGDG since no visual progress has been made

feels bad my dudes

>>152266656
I WANNA BE FUCKING LEET THO


GAWD

>>152266550
I'm not sure if all low poly games do that but I know Animal Crossing uses this system. In fact, in ACNL, the face is split in two parts, eyes and moth, and both texture get swapped for different expressions.

>>152266025
I don't really get the whole moral angle when it comes to game pricing arguments.

It basically just comes down to supply and demand, right? And they figured that the demand for their supply would be willing to pay 20 bucks for their house simulator, like how those train and truck simulators have thousands of dollars worth of DLC.

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/joy-of-coding-book-bundle


Awww shit nigga

I'm trying to come up with a good division of story & gameplay. We have a calendar with each chapter having roughly 12-16 usable days. Each day is split into Day & Night. During the day the character has to interact with an NPC, however during the night they have the option instead to organize missions/training/research, and doing so takes up a time slot.

These missions/training/research give rewards to make you better at doing future missions/training/research. Most missions are optional but every chapter they are 2 required missions that get progressively harder.

What is a good balance between days where they plan missions and days where they interact with NPCs at night (some NPCs are only intractable with at night). Should they be able to scrape by with 30% of their nights? 50%?

What strikes you all as a good balance?

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>>152266879
lmao just 2 actually useful books out of 16

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>>152266879
> each book is about a completely different language

Unity Personal's page says:

>Can I use Personal for commercial development?
>Yes, you can! As long as you have an annual revenue capacity or funds raised capacity of less than $100k per fiscal year, you can create with Personal.

How do they know if someone reaches this amount? Couldn't people fiddle the accounts very easily?

>>152267196
to make more than 100k a year you have to be successful, which means your game will be well marketed.
Unity will know about it

Is it okay to use tutorial code in a game because writing it yourself would be tedious and most likely wouldn't work?

I feel like if I stray too far from what the tutorial had I won't get anywhere.

>>152266785
The difference is that Gone Home only has a relatively short storyline to offer and not much else.

If you are a train enthusiast or like job simulators you get way more bang for your buck.

When you spend a decent amount of money on something interactive, you want it to last more than just an hour. I think the backlash wouldn't have been that vicious.

It probably didn't help that it wasn't entirely clear what the game would be about.

How to make TD not boring as fuck.

>>152266785
it's because you haven't lived the life I guess. There's a litany of unspoken rules that can(and should) be written out to explain what is acceptable to the general populace and what isn't. It's definitely complicated.

t. guy who's friend's dad photocopied manuals for games to get around copy protection for home computer games like Indiana Jones

>>152267374
It's fine but you should learn to code so you can do more than what the tutorials offer

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>>152267346
get with the times

>>152267560
Is that the new one?
They made it 100x worse

>>152267560
cuck

>>152267447
Steal ideas from WC3 custom games

>>152267447
More than just enemies, fast enemies, strong enemies. More than just arrow towers, fast towers, strong/slow towers.

Nice aesthetic. Oh and maybe this >>152267693

Unity games that use the default shader are like artists seriously using Photoshop's dodge and burn tools for shading and highlighting.

>>152267319
100k is peanuts though, you don't necessarily need to market it to make that much, word of mouth would work if your game was good enough and you emailed around to a few big review sites (don't think sending a few emails would count as marketing unless you are pedantic enough to believe that).
I know it's the oldest line but I have some ideas that would appeal to a large segment of /v/ as I believe I know what /v/aggots really love, so they could do my marketing.
I still don't get how they know for certain if you're fiddling the money or how much you're making unless it's some stupid simple equation of Google Play installs x cost. I could release on something like itch.io and I don't think they even report the number of purchases.

>>152267872
Unity games that use the default shader are like artists seriously using Photoshop's dodge and burn tools for shading and highlighting.

>>152267845
Unity games with the splash screen are just like "unregistered hypercam2"

>>152267872
>>152267319
Also what could they do if you develop on Personal and then switch over to the Unity Plus right before you end development? Has someone actually thought this shit out or have I noticed a little exploit here?

>>152253139
FUCK that's a nice menu. Bravo!

I'm using My Own Engine.

>>152268098
I don't think the user buying the license to sell their game before selling their game is a loophole buddy

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>>152268098

>>152268178
MOE?

>>152267998
Why? It's not like it leaves a watermark on the game like Hypercam does.

>>152268178
>I'm using M.O.E.

Don't touch me weebscum.

>>152253139
I wish I had the motivation to juice up my UI like that, it looks amazing but I hate doing menus so much

>>152267346
What's with the jaggies?

how can I compose a soundtrack on the same level as NIN's for Quake?

>>152267447
Titties

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Idea guy here with significant background on art and music and some background on JS - I also played a lot of old school video games (I'm old)- currently learning how to develop levels and create sprites for a 2D game - Also learning all I can about development and programming.

looking for people who want to join in development

So far I have decided to use Unity and Photon for multiplayer - but up to discussion.

The game is a cooperative where players must band together to solve puzzles and kill mobs.

The puzzles and monsters are almost impossible - but not impossible - to solve/kill alone, so this is a multiplayer only game.

What makes this game different is that every event only occurs once, if you kill a monster he never re-spawns, if a puzzle is solved it is permanently disabled, there will be a random loot generator, for unique loot. And a log with what players have accomplished.

I have many more ideas for the game that I can explain in private, and I want to make this game on 2D because of the costs of production.

Currently looking for all kinds of developers, be artists, programmers, music or any other, even other idea guys are welcome.

If you want to join me on this ride - we may sometime in the future greenlight this together - Add me on Steam 8bitsupera (also try bitsupera if you can't finde me)

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I got kissed by a girl today, aggydag.

What have YOU gotten done today, you big nerds?

>>152268469
>Idea guy here
I commend you for putting so much effort into that post but I stopped reading there

>>152268226
I know, I just thought they could start getting funny about the royalties you owe them and just bypass that shit.
I'm not even sure if I should just go with Unity or use some simple open source 2D engine, that's really all I would need for my game/s. It's kinda shitty that they don't have a Linux version of Unity.

>>152266989
Any thoughts on this?

>>152268469
>Idea guy here
>typed on phone
that's nice

>>152268528
>I got kissed by a girl today, aggydag.
Ew, she probably kissed and sucked other guys with those lips

>>152266551
>Why?
Python is slow. It's great for a lot of reasons but speed is its Achilles heel.

If speed doesn't matter for your game, like if you're making a simple-ish roguelike, then Python is fine and you can go ahead and use it. It's very popular with real programmers, because it's readable and reliable and there's tons of good tools for working with it.

>>152268548
:(

>>152268686
unf

>>152266348

It's not about smelling you retard it's about putting them on

>>152268528
>tfw 23 kissless virgin
>tfw don't even have a finished game yet
I'm just a disgrace in every way.

>>152268645
not on the phone tho

>>152268469
>idea
stopped reading there

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What game(s) are you taking the most inspiration from?

Me: Sonic Adventure

>>152269149
:(
maybe I will come back when I have something done, which will be for the next week or so

>>152268469
>facebook frog
Didn't read

>>152268469
>Idea guy here
>significant background on art and music and some background on JS
>currently learning how to develop
An idea guy is someone whose only contribution to a team is to blurt out "we could do X" without any particular path towards making X happen. With that kind of skillset you're more like a one man army. Respect, anon. I hope you find people to be on your team.

>>152268469

>Id..

didn't read

>>152269236
>not sonic adventure 2

>>152269390
i've only watched speedruns of sonic games

>>152269236
You better be making a motherfucking Chao game. That was the best part of SA1 and 2.

>>152269086
...my dick, right?

>>152268469
It would help if you could make some mockups of your ideas or outline the entire game. Otherwise, I don't think you're going to interest anybody.

If you're not going to post it publicly, nobody's going to be interested in contacting you. If you want to keep it private, you're better off just directly e-mailing people you already know/watch on social media.

>>152268469
>you can't finde me)
>finde
stopped reading there

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BadPong http://www.mediafire.com/download/ro35zb1anz0r4d6/BadPong

using advanced compression technology, the file size has been reduced to under 14KB
unfortunately, a side-effect of its state-of-the-artness is that is for Linux users ONLY


you probably have to chmod +x BadPong
if you don't have ncurses installed for some reason (e.g. you're a looser) then you'll have to install that

File: Enemies shooting patterns + bullet manager.webm (2MB, 800x600px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 800x600px

>>152269236
I would say Gigawing 2 but I don't have anything done yet.

>>152269559
Not him
I am

>>152269758
Joke's on you: Everything important was said after that

Stopped reading over there

>>152269236
Bomberman

>>152268528
I worked on my game!

>>152269236

Prince of Persia

daily reminder that world building > gameplay

>>152269582

No your hand

Pleb

It's like warm, soft, indirect hand holding