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A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.
>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/
>/simg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
>Experimental website
http://nogf.moe/simg/
>/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral
>BMS download links
http://pastebin.com/2CDSgvZq
>Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in
>Tankfag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX
>Boat- and subfag pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE
>Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web
>OP pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/yXeNzrpg
>Example of welcome sims
Falcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro truck sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator
>Example of non-welcome games:
Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____
first for Foxbat
2nd for CMANO
>>152209664
>dcs b1 never ever
I would prefer the B-52 and F-111 anyway. :^)
If Death had a face, it'd something like this.
i might actually join my first blue flag to shit on f15s with magics
But quick question
Will i be able to switch sides after the round ends?
>>152223293
Red 4 lyfe
>>152223293
Yes.
You pick your team every round.
From the series "Shitty BR cities seen from above in FSX with low res" comes to this thread "São Paulo seen from above in FSX with low res"
1 - We start above the central-south part of the city staring south. From here we can sort of make out the jockey club slightly above the engine pod and the billings and guarapiranga dams, south of the city. Our journey will take us over a few of the city's most important regions and landmarks
>>152223354
2 - Close to the Jockey club is the USP Cidade Universitária campus. Flying above it you can see it down from the Pinheiros river. The small green strip between the campus and the river is the Raia Olímpica. When the river still had a flood zone and wasn't rectified, they dug there and after the flooding, they trenched it in, treated the water and now it's a huge ass pool which they use to practice rowing.
>>152223498
3 - Another picture of the campus. Up north you can see where the Pinheiros and Tietê river meet up.
>>152223643
4 - Here's the view of the Paulista Avenue region, lots of business and rich people here, it is widely considered one of the most expensive zones in São Paulo to live in.
>>152223963
5 - Here's the view of the Republica region, home to some of the city's most recognizable buildings: the Copan building and the Italia building, you can almost make them out here, it's the curly building in the center of the picture and the one next to it. To be zoomed into in another photo.
>>152223750if they did add the mig 25 blue side would cry
>>152223498
>>152223643
Se joga na USP viado :DDDD
>>152223750
never
>>152224112
6 - In this picture you can see the tamanduateí river left of the wing and up from the engine pod. To its banks there's the Dom Pedro II park and bus terminal, in blue and yellow, right from the wing you can also sort of make out the Luz train station next to the train tracks
>>152224321
7 - Close up of the park and terminal
>>152224446
8 - To the right of the wing you can see the Anhangabaú Valley region, there used to be a river there but the people eventually canalized it and made it an underground river. This considered the old downtown part of the city. Immediately in front of the wing you can see the Altino Arantes building, it's the pointy-empire state building-like tower, commonly called "Banespa Building" or "Banespão" for being the old headquarters of the Bank of the State of São Paulo, which was called Banespa
>first day of FO campaign
God I can't wait, any ideas what kind package simg is going to frag first?
>>152224580
9 - Here's a close up image of the Copan and Italia buildings, the Copan is the curly one and the Italia building is the slightly rhombus shaped one to the left of it.
>>152222226
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, they have never developed a "foil" or contemporary opponent to one of their full fidelity modules and likely never will, let alone theaters to play on.
Sure, we got the P-51, but they were going to do that anyway, it wasn't picked because of either the Dora or 109 variant we got.
Shit, we're getting a fucking Corsair and no jap birds at all.
>>152224717
There's speculation that leatherneck are making a zero
>>152224695
10 - One of the most known parts of the city is the Ibirapuera park. It's like a BR modernist version of the Central Park in NY.
>>152224819
11 - Here's a close up of the Jockey Club, horse races happen here. You can also see the Pinheiros river.
>>152224793
I'll believe it when I see it.
>>152224940
12 - Here's the Ponte Estaiada, another well known landmark of the city. To the right of it is the headquarters of Globo TV.
>>152225054
13 - Another picture of the city, this time of the Paraíso region, in the south. You can also see the Ibirapuera park.
>>152225250
14 - This is the Paulista Avenue, arguably the most famous avenue in the city and state of São Paulo, and probably in Brazil aswell. It is build in the highest point of the city. At a time the most rich people in the entire country would build their huge ass estates here, coffee barons and industrialists and whatnot
>>152224985
Check Rudel's profile on the ED forums. He went full weaboo with the descriptions. Plus his profile pic is from that Studio Ghibli flick about the Zero's designer. Also, he had a thread where he was teasing a WIP mesh of a landing gear. If you are a rivet-counterfag, you can probably make out which plen's gear is that.
>>152225376
15 - Another shot of the Anhangabaú Valley region, the city's tallest skyscraper is built in this region.
>>152225493
16 - Near the Anhangabaú Valley region there's the Mercadão Municipal, sadly it's just a painting on the ground in this scenery
>>152225625
17 - Coming in for landing on the Campo de Marte airclub, ICAO code SBMT
>>152225748
18 - Looking to the left you can have a nice panorama of the city as seen from the north
THE END
>Blueflag is going SRMs-only
>Mirage moved to red
So have the blues starting crying about imbalance because they only really have the F-15 (do they have the F-5?) yet?
>>152225438
Not the guy you were originally replying to
I don't visit the ED forums at all but now I am curious. Can you post a link?
>>152228529
Yup just check the thread.
Though, honestly I'm confused why the Mirage was moved for this round. With BVR missiles sure it makes sense on red but with heaters only it's arguably one of the best performing aircraft, combined with WVR already being the Russians' arena.
>>152228740
Maybe he wants to shit on f15 users?
>>152228740
I still say they should allow an "east german" MiG-29 spawn or something just to appease the crybabies.
>>152228740
>>152229175
>yfw this is all a ploy by buddyspike to show that blue is actually the underdog and that red are just a bunch of mean old bullies who only complain about balance when it's not in their favor
>>152229546
I mean, it's better than BLUFOR.
They find things to whine about even when balance is clearly in their favor.
Shit, they seem to think that only BLUFOR has issues coordinating and getting strike packages organized and operating together.
I can count on one hand the number of times REDFOR has been pushing an area and actually had an Mi-8 ready to go without having to wait on someone to go get it. across the 3 rounds I've participated in.
>>152230297
I know I was shitposting
Buddyspike have a very clear blue-leaning bias, the same way the DCS community at large has a blue-leaning bias. It's only natural, I suppose, given that most people in the English-speaking DCS community come from NATO countries, or at the very least not-former-Pact-countries. Why wouldn't they prefer the aircraft that popular culture has shown to them as a superhero against the two-bit supervillain that is the MiG or the Sukhoi?
I'm not even a slavaboo I'd just like to see more not-NATO aircraft in the game and for the "red" side to stop being treated like the bad guy who's supposed to lose.
>>152231012
>commies
>not evil
I bet you are underage.
>>152231436
I don't think I said anywhere there that commies are anything other than shitbags
but if you want a game to actually have decent, asymmetric PvP with lines drawn at NATO aircraft v. USSR/Pact aircraft, you have to actually give the Pact guys something to fuckin' fly, and you need a community for those aircraft to actually develop. I think the numbers in recent blueflags shows that that is not the case in DCS right now- MiGs and shit are basically punching bags for the eagle drivers to shoot down and brag about.
>>152231012
We actually need more NATO planes and we are rightfully getting them.
Regardless of what you slavboos want.
>Su-27
>MiG-29A
>MiG-29S
>MiG-29G
>Su-33
>Su-25A
>Su-25T
>MiG-15
>Mi-8
>MiG-21
>KA-50
>L-39
Meanwhile on blue....
>A-10A
>A-10C
>F-15
>M2000
>Huey
>gazelle
>F-5
>hawk
>c-101
>F-86F
>>152231582
We bullied F-15's in our Fulcrums and Flankers every single round. The problem isn't the planes, its finding people who are ok with flying FC3 shit forever because new russian planes FUCKING NEVER
>>152231582
Reason that there aren't many REDFOR full fidelity planes is Russias shit laws that prevent ED from making them. They then have to rely on 3rd party developers that take a million years to develop a jet and when they do its the monkey model version.
>>152231773
>literally every upcoming modern aircraft is an aircraft that saw service either exclusively or primarily in service of NATO countries
>only two upcoming aircraft- the Mirage F1 and the F-14A, can be reasonably put in a Redfor setup
Red has ZERO full-fidelity modern fighters, whereas at least Blue has the Mirage
>>152231773
For Red:
7 of the 12 aircraft are FC3, 4 of which have SFM.
For the Blue:
Only two of them are FC3, and those two both have PFM's
Planned for Blue:
>F-18
>F-14A
>F-14B
>AV-8
>Eurofighter
All of which will be full fidelity, have PFM's, and be viable in modern scenarios.
You're soon going to have entire teams of these awesome aircraft. Blue flag will die because nobody will want to be stuck flying FC3 SFM MiG-29's against that.
The sad part of it all, is a full fidelity MiG-29 would fix that shit.
Its a plane that could do everything. Its THE quintessential OPFOR plane. The legendary bad guy MiG. Matches up against every single nato fighter in the game, and the ones that are on the way.
I think the only hope is that some third party group decides to do one.
>>152232183
I mean I don't even give a shit if we get specifically Russian aircraft, I just want more "bad guy" planes. More stuff like the F-14A and the Mirage F1. More stuff that a mission maker could conceivably put into a semi-realistic PvP mission and have it believably be an aircraft in whatever the not-NATO guy's inventory was
Hell, make the fucking Phantom so we can say it's a Turkish/Iranian one
>In the opening minutes of the 1991 Persian Gulf War on 17 January 1991, an unarmed, United States Air Force (USAF) EF-111, crewed by Captain James A. Denton and Captain Brent D. Brandon scored a kill against an Iraqi Mirage F1EQ, which they managed to maneuver into the ground, making it the only F-111 to achieve an aerial victory over another aircraft.
I'd also really dig seeing DCS's EWAR modelling open up. Live, even if it was just FC3-level shit where it isn't 100% simulated but it's enough to be functional- I want offensive jamming and shit to be a thing in DCS.
>>152232132
>>152232183
>slavboos want more planes
>Russia wont let ED make them anymore
>FUCKING NATOBOO BIAS
>I FUCKED HATE ED
>BURN ED
>MIG 29 NEVER THANKS NATOBOOS
Harmtards retardation is fucking infectious I swear.
>>152232783
>Russia won't let ED make them
where are the proofs
even then, there are plenty of developers from places that aren't Russia making shit for DCS
>>152232183
>EF2000?
Time to invest some cash into a gaming rig and DCS World.
>>152232926
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2872161&postcount=40
>>152233091
oh my poor naive young thing
the eurofucker is being made by the least competent, most hated third-party developer for dcs world, and we have zero concrete information on it aside from that it's being made
don't spend your money on disappointment
>>152233091
Don't. The Eurofighter's being made by the worst third-party dev whose only other released module is still absolute dog shit after being out for almost 2 years and doesn't even have a finished flight model yet.
It's the last thing anyone here is excited about because it's universally expected to be worthless.
>>152233163
>mod says "we shouldn't argue about things we don't know"
>this means the russians won't let ED make shit
still, why couldn't a third-party dev make, say, the Luftwaffe version of the MiG-29?
>>152233281
Because they still need the rights to use Mikoyan-Gurevich shit.
It's the same reason the Ace Combat games have splash screens showing all the manufacturers featured in the game, they had to pay for the rights for very likeness and branding.
Compound this problem x25,000 when dealing with sensitive (possibly classified) information detaling exactly how every bit and piece in the plane operates.
Subsystems might require yet more licensing if made by a third party, etc, etc.
>>152232783
Your bait is getting really stale dude. You need to spice it up a bit like >>152232880
Nothing wrong with Nato planes. Just gonna get ugly once nobody is going to want to fly any OPFOR because there is none to fly.
>>152233442
So the Razbam devs didn't run into this with Dassault? LNS didn't run into this with Mikoyan-Gurevich?
Why couldn't a third-party dev make very specifically an aircraft from before the USSR fell (keeping in mind the international IP/copyright laws in relation to the USSR, and copyright law within the USSR at the time), and release that?
>>152233185
>>152233201
Damn,well hopefully a better developer goes for it later.
>>152233572
>So the Razbam devs didn't run into this with Dassault?
There's a very specific reason the Mirage-2000 is branded as DCS: M2000C, anon.
>>152233516
>opinions i don't like are bait
spotted the harmtard
>>152233634
Your post wasn't an opinion.
Your post was putting words in my mouth.
Have you forgotten the fundamentals of bait?
>>152233705
>Your post wasn't an opinion.
So what was it fact?
>>152233628
Then brand the MiG-23 like fucking DCS: Fencer 23 or some shit.
Hell, call it DCS: Satan's Flaccid Penis if you want, just give me more ASM/EFM non-NATO planes
>>152233801
>Your post was putting words in my mouth.
>>152233862
Honestly, calling it DCS: MiG-23 might be fine so far as I know, I don't think slavmanufacturers give as much of a shit about acronyms so much as they do the full name and the logo (which wasn't even in use back then).
>>152233865
poor little harmtard
he just cant stop replying
>>152234056
who r u and why do u do this
>>152234056
Kill yourself craig
>>152233982
That, coupled with the dubiousness of if MiG could even actually claim copyright over soviet-era designs internationally, makes me believe the lack of USSR-produced aircraft is primarily a lack of will to make one rather than a lack of ability to make one
and I can understand that- NATO jets, especially USAF/USN jets, draw in the more casual aviation fan a lot more. They're easier to fly, they're generally better for their timeframe, and they're more recognizable. A Russian jet isn't going to bring in very big sales numbers from the English-speaking crowd (The MiG-21 aside, I feel its sales numbers are probably mostly because it was the first ASM fighter with a proper fire control radar)
I dunno, I see reasons why it isn't happening, I just wish it would happen. I want to live in a world where there are well-populated asymmetric PvP servers with no FC3 aircraft in the lineup.
>>152234260
>and I can understand that- NATO jets, especially USAF/USN jets, draw in the more casual aviation fan a lot more. They're easier to fly, they're generally better for their timeframe, and they're more recognizable.
>Slavboo think their jets are harder to fly and take more "skill" because their aircraft are turds
>In reality they're just shit, terrible planes that are harder to fly because of how shit and behind they are
Kek
>>152234237
>creating a trip just to false flag as me
How can one person be this booty blasted. If you are into ERP i know some people I'll hook you up lmfao
>>152234260
Yeah, I'm not certain, anon.
I still have my fingers crossed hoping that Leatherneck'll do a MiG-23 after the Viggen, F-14, and Corsair are out the door.
Shit, they already have 90% of the avionics done in the form of MiG-21bis, it'd be quick, easy, and painless for them.
I really want the FC3 menace to either go away or all be converted to full-fidelity modules. Even though I'm a massive slavaboo, the F-15 is unironically also one of my favorite airframes, too.
Maybe in a couple years we'll start getting some slav modules? I think it's more doable the earlier they go, MiG-29 might be a stretch but planes from the 70s are probably mostly doable.
>>152234520
This is why I'm 100% for a movement towards 3rd gen DCS.
All of the planes should be possible to make
Third gen is fun as fuck.
and it means we could eventually get this baby
>>152234517
>Flasks flagging to discredit my trip
Fuck off
>>152234514
remember that shitposting only devolves the quality of the general
>>152234620
All my favorite planes are from 2nd/3rd gens too, anon.
At least based RAZBAM are doing Mirage III and those spanish fucks that never finished the C-101 are doing Mirage F1 (which'll probably never be finished, too)
>>152234676
>Post I don't like are shitposting
Slavboos need to get out.
They're the only thing devolving this general
>>152234260
How can an aircraft that is more advanced and complex than slavshit be more casual? You are delusional.
>>152234945
>>152234742
Here's your (you)
>Tfw no naval planes yet
Is the bms harrier playable at least?
>>152234945
>>152234514
To a Slav being more challenging is having to put up with your aircrafts faults and poor design. We are speaking with delusional people here, mind yourself.
Does the F-5's tailhook even fucking work? Haven't tried it yet.
>>152235193
It is, but the F-18 is better, especially for Carrier obs
Also reminder that DCS is the most cucked game ever made:
http://www.thebattlesim.com/
>>152235226
Reminder that slavshit needed to be so simple that farmers were to be able to fly it.
>>152235072
Your delusion cannot break reality and in reality slavshit is the more simple design.
>>152236232
>and I can understand that- NATO jets, especially USAF/USN jets, draw in the more casual aviation fan a lot more. They're easier to fly, they're generally better for their timeframe, and they're more recognizable.
>NATO jets, especially USAF/USN jets, draw in the more casual aviation fan a lot more. They're easier to fly, they're generally better for their timeframe
>they're generally better for their timeframe
>>152236316
Please stop responding to his obvious bait.
Seriously. Not even I'm that fucking dumb.
Just ignore him.
I do enjoy this wgg tier shitposting.
That's how the thread died, because of one autistic fuck, that probably posts on reddit.
You fucking autists really need to stop shitting up the thread.
Natoboo, slavaboo, I don't give a fuck. You're all arguing over shit you know nothing about.
Why Eagle does what it does and doesn't do what it doesn't do is a mystery. We can hope for the planes we want and fly the ones we get.
Also, stop getting triggered because people like different planes to you. It's cancer, and when you act like cancer you are cancer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwGGYIEBKZY
>>152238103
they're fucking roleplaying this x-boo banter to appear like they're having fun or some stupid shit
While it would be nice to have modern slav jets, only airquakers need them. The rest of us just want a dynamic campaign engine.
>>152238692
But there's already been a "dynamic" campaign for MiG-21 out for 2 years.
Maybe I want to fly something else while doing my dynamic campaigns?
>>152238898
Then you can fly new and upcoming non-slav shit like F-5, viggen, F-14 and F-18.
>>152239084
Now you are just changing the angle of you shitposting.
Please end yourself.
>>152236316
>USN jets are easier to fly
Did you include the takeoff and especially the landing of such aircraft on a carrier or are you talking out of your ass?
>>152239793
>takeoff
This is actually the easiest part. You put your hands on the handles placed in the cockpit.At least for the F-18, the FBW will give you the correct AoA to not drop in to the pond at all times.
ДABAЙ, БЛЯДЬ!
>>152243158
ДABAЙ, БЛЯДЬ!
Where's the guy who makes skins?
Can you reproduce this one? I'm begging ya!!!
>>152224793
It's an AI plane to help fill out the map that is going to come with the Corsair.
>>152245128
is that Lock on? Because I've been wondering for a while whether anyone still plays that game or if it's had a BMS-style overhaul.
>>152245128
Why, it's ugly?
>>152245324
Everyone plays DCS World now.
>>152245369
The colors are a bit pale. But I'd like to have that pretty mouth on a variety of skins.
>>152245324
One of early builds while still under Laszlo Becz's direction.
>>152245520
The mouth looks super gay, desu.
>>152224694
I'll probably be flying mostly A2G when we've got 2-3 people on. If it's just me then I'll probably do some barcap or similar.
>Only one post about FO
I wish the controls were easier to setup so we could get more people involved
>>152233572
M-2000C, MiG-21bis, and F-5E-3 are all unlicenced products developed without any input or recognition by the manufacturer.
Though most modules are at least developed with the tacit approval of the manufacturer, the only module that is actually a licensed product is the Huey.
>>152233281
>why couldn't a third-party dev make, say, the Luftwaffe version of the MiG-29?
This is our only realistic hope, the 29G being based on the export MiG-29B.
Just include some """fictional""" Russian skins.
Maybe some checkboxes in the editor to remove the TACAN & Western ILS too.
This is how desperate I am ffs, 3rd Party MiG-29G when?
>>152248169
The only reason the Huey is licensed is because boeing are a bunch of fags, and they'll start suing in order to scrape off a few more shekels.
>>152246623
>I wish the controls were easier to setup so we could get more people involved
That's the major roadblock for me at the moment. There's also the slight problem of normal 3D viewing controls (hat switch/mouse dragging) not working because of my head tracking, so every time I wanna dick around for a bit I have to set that up too.
>>152232880
>>152233516
>>152234620
>>152234638
>>152248581
Honestly, does anyone else find it extremely amusing that all these aviation hipsters are super into Soviet planes? It's like when hispters like shitty beer just to be different, I don't think the Russians ever made one truly great fighter literally ever.
DCS needs more NATO planes, we can fly American jets vs American jets and have a more even matchup. I'd rather do F-15 vs F-16 than have any shit Russian stuff.
>>152251619
(you)
>>152250780
I was looking into the syntax of the key files earlier to see if I could come up with something wherein you put in your setup and it gives you a nicer UI to set everything up, then just spits out a keyfile which you can whack in the menu in game
Will add it to the ideas pile but there are a fair few combinations
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2878393&postcount=16
Big update lol, anything new on the shit21 and m2000c?
>>152254679
Yeah the Mirage had an update but they never make into the official patch notes.
You can pray for a MiG-21 update but don't delude yourself.
>>152254816
Cobra said the upside down radar thing should be fixed this patch and that the stabilization of the radar was wrong.
>>152254679
>>152254816
>>152255764
Is the red floodlight fix for the mig-21 official now, or are we kek'ed yet again?
>>152254816
Where can I read mirage patch. notes?
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2878286&postcount=44
Weekend news, has some nice screenshots of 2.5 Georgia & Normandy.
>>152259539
Finally the bf-109 I bought almost a year ago might get used.
Friendly reminder
>>152259539
What did they mean by this?
>>152259862
>those significantly less jaggy mountains
>>152259862
Mig-31 got a new model sometime in the past year or so and it looks really nice so it shows up in screenshots fairly regularly. Don't read too much into it.
Based on this pic, the Normandy map is gonna be p. gud tbqh, famiglia. (pic from ED's fb page)
>>152259859
>Krause
Kek, the most man child, man child to ever exist.
>>152261156
Fuck off Ivan
>>152261156
Could we do France vs Britain ops on this with jets you think?
>>152262457
Noice, but you can bet the only chance of getting it cheap will be to buy it bundled with WW2 planes.
>>152261651
>the furry doesn't have the patience for WW2 air combat
He can only manage CS:GO, where rounds last a few minutes.
>watching FSX on twitch
I'm surprised there are this many people to begin with, what the fuck?
>>152261156
If the runways are paved
Would it be possible to use jets on normandy? Or are the airfields to small?
>>152263703
ED are adding in placeable grass & metal airstrips to the editor so you could probably put down a long enough metal one in the editor.
>>152262931
Furries: Not Even Once
>>152224154
If they added anything blue side would cry. Blues just want to meme on everything with eagles loaded with slammers and then pat themselves on the back.
WW2 OPS WHEN
>>152263041
What's the point of a FSX stream?
>>152264273
>Go up in shitty mig29
>kill 2 F-15s head to head from BVR using TWS
>mfw they didn't uninstall their games 15 seconds later.
>those off boresight shots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq3AMnAVC6Q
>>152265291
>That rudder input
Get out with your ace combat tier plane.
What if I wanted to get into train simming?
Any hints and tips?
>>152265664
>What's FBW?
Go snap your wings off you slavshitter
>>152264281
I feel like I need to clarify
DCS WW2 OPS WHEN
>>152265291
How do you do that with the radar display
>>152266748
I don't see how FBW has anything to do with a rudder that doesn't induce roll.
>>152250434
So is the Gazelle (as will the Bo-105).
>>152267101
theres barely any rudder authority senpai
http://imgur.com/cBoGAES
>>152268421
That's bullshit because my dad is the top authority on rudders.
Holy shit.
Winners of the second MiG-21 vs F-5E grudge match get a free copy of the Viggen.
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2874571&postcount=1
>>152270429
Registrations open early September.
>>152270219
6x MORE effective you say.
>>152270219
This looks about right.
>>152262931
Uh, what? Just because I haven't played Clod yet doesn't mean I don't have the patience for it.
>>152270429
I wonder what'll happen if Greg tries to register...
>>152272451
If you're anything like the other furries you won't get off the ground and then quit because you can't autostart the planes.
>>152274958
Yeah, no. I've played my fair share of WW2 stuff.
FYSA: they're removing all the stupid unlocks from the new Il-2 (fucking finally)
http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/168-developer-diary/page-4?&p=378896
>Today we announce that next week we will unlock all modifications (weapons, equipment, skins) for all planes if you own either the Standard Edition or Premium Edition of BOS or BOM. The Starter Edition, primarily sold in Russia, will not be changed. Unlocking all modifications is the first step in a new direction (or old direction depending on your point of view) for our beloved IL-2 Sturmovik series. More interesting details will follow soon after we finalize our development plan.
>>152275106
>the Starter Edition, primarily sold in Russia, will not be changed.
Keep this in mind that if you bought the sekrit slav edition on the cheap.
>>152275048
faggot
>>152275048
>>152275470
>>152275506
>The furry hatin is back
Fuck yes
>>152222602
THIS
>>152263703
Likely way too small.
>>152280256
those are some big missiles
>>152281556
for you
>>152280619
That facebook group is just all laughs
Here we have a new species of Gazelle, the air-to-air Gazelle. It is ready for it's first air-to-air hunt, ready to fight the enemy C-130 circling it's airfield like a hawk.
IT'S SUCH A MEME IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL
>>152285307
protip if you press right ctrl numpad + you can track missiles off the rail
>>152285478
Thanks senpai, I'll use that for the next webm
Poland is based
>>152283996
>>152285307
is multicrew implemented yet for the gazlel?
>>152287119
Yes, it was added with the latest patch.
>>152285652
>Poland is trying *too hard to be nato.
I AM IN DISBELIEF
>>152287594
Poland is a NATO member tho
>>152287632
10 billion times more capable than legacy ka-50
tfw gazlel is the only anti-ship flyable aircraft in the game.
>>152259862
2.5 looks gorgeous. I wonder if we will see it by the end of the year.
>>152289328
That's their plan, but we know how much their promises are worth.
>>152289328
*profuse sweating*
Why can't we get more sukhoi variants?
Like can't ED just go to another country besides Russia to get their dokuments?
>>152290114
It's not about documents, they have those. it's about the Russian government being paranoid fucks and passing very broad anti terror legislation a few years ago.
>>152290114
Fuck off slavboo.
There will never be any more Russian planes because nobody gives a fuck about their shitty aircraft.
You faggots are ruining this thread
>>152289778
Unff
Makes me want to abandon 1.5 and migrate to 2.0. Or stop playing until we get 2.5
>implying we need a new soviet plane when the MiG-21 already comes with a cute waifu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmtYGjXKNfU
>>152291045
>More planes are bad
Fucking kys matey, I don't care what we get I just want more planes but at least Russian shit being added give more scope for stuff to be added
>>152291045too bad im a bagguetteboo
I just want more shit to shoot at to be honesto. If Putin doesn't being a bitch, DCS servers will just be Blue vs Blue which is pretty gay.
>>152290114
That is a bit of a stretch. I'd rather just have a Su-27 full fidelity (never ever) or a MiG-29A full fidelity (Literally why don't they like money?)
Slavaboos like me will be eternally happy, we can have real 4th gen PvP instead of FC3.
I want BST to make some soviet jet, they are Belorussian (That's what the Bel in Belsimtek means btw) so I'm sure the laws are different.
All these gazlel webms
The gazlel turns into a bigger meme everytime
This one works, too. A -lot- of the A2G weaponry works in A2A with the Gazlel
>>152293613
>Implying the Belarusian government isn't essentially just a Russian puppet state and Belsimtek are gonna get fucked in the face by the FSB for doing it
>>152292776
>>152292964
Why would you willingly pay money to fly objectively inferior shit?
Why would you not want the best aircraft to be in the game? (i.e USA and Israel)
How fucking stupid can slavboos get?
I swear harmtard is infecting more and more people every day.
>>152294484
I'm not even a slavaboo you dense fuck. It's nice to have the option to fly more shit, why is having more aircraft in game bad regardless of what they are?
It's even still nice to have more player controlled slavshit to shoot at if you're so inclined.I know you're baiting anyway, god damn I wanna strangle you ye fucken mongy weapon
>>152294703
harmtard will never learn will he?
bodied
Slavboos on suicide watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq3AMnAVC6Q
>>152295320
>mirage already out turns all of russias """""""super manuverable"""""""" fighters
>can now shoot off boresight making the R-73 irrelevant
>F-18 will have IRST and helmet mounted sight and aim-9x
hahahahaha holy shit how will slavboos ever recover. Kill your selves.
>>152295320
>>152295685
Yeah, it's all fine until the missile bugs and refuses to leave the rail.
>>152295916
>slavboos flooding to the mirage because their shit FC3 SFM planes are now irrelevant
>can't figure out how to shoot missiles
Please stop my sides can't take much more of this.
>>152296232
I've had the Mirage since it hit early access, you dumb frogposter.
Shit was bugged for like the past month.
>>152296232
Mirage missiles have been bugged for awhile
Reminder that the MiG-29 has an atrocious kill record.
0-10 against US fighters.
Most notable air to air kill was a georgian drone
>>152296351
>>152296482
yeah sure blame the plane right
>>152296810
Also reminder that the one people want a full fidelity model of (the A or the G) has a shitty radar and no R77s.
>>152297210
What's the point of R77s if they're never going to be modeled properly, anon?
>>152297130
Not the plane's fault so much as the dumb spics that are responsible for it.
>>152297210
The MiG-29A will get fucked by the F-15, F-14, F-18, Harrier, Mirage, Eurofighter.
Its a piece of shit plane that slavboos fly because "muh aesthetics"
The proof is that they flew migs in blue flag exclusively and got their asses blown the fuck out every time. So much so that they quit playing all together.
>USAF HINDS
SHEEEEEEEITTITT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlric6pDNhw
>Mig
>>152297735
>suckhoi
>>152298330
faked image, its wings are still attached
>>152297735
>he thinks we don't play blueflag
good forward that to xcom while your at it senpai
>>152297735
2
>all these dumb niggers thinking people only fly planes because of how modern and capable they are.
I bet all these fags would switch to an FC3 level F-22 if it were released just because they like winning and not flying like this is CoD or something.
You shitposters never cease to amaze me. This is what's wrong with this community.
>>152297735
3
holy shit this afternoon blowout
how can people continue being slavboos after this???
>>152297735
4
>when godsplane is defeated by a missile that shouldn't even be able to fucking catch up to it
>>152297735
5
This is the one that got Jester "Logbook" Darrak p***ed off
>>152270429
Any news on or pics of the Viggen?
>>152297735
reminder that blue got blow out a BMP driven by an autist.
He also shot down RALFI DOG DOOD DICK INSIDE MES wingman in his F-15.
>>152297735
6
For your baguette breathers
>>152299360
>>152297735
why is the DC-8 so fucking comfy?
hey guys what's going on this thr-
oh.
Anyway the Bf-109 is apparently //released// now, does it have gunpods yet?
>>152300131
>my only kills on those two are in Mirage
got bleds, Tony.
Excuse me while I interrupt your regularly scheduled shitposting to post the MiG-21 patchnotes.
>There are no major changes in this patch to weapons or radar. These are fixed, but still being tested thoroughly for inclusion next friday.
>Implemented Cockpit Night Lighting
>Corrected missile performance for R-60. R-3's pending.
>Corrected NURS issues with AI
>Corrected a few joystick inputs
>Flight model performance adjustments to adhere to documentation
>Deleted legacy headtracker profile
>Corrected kneeboard custom page issue
>>152300431
So we have to wait a whole extra week or more for MiG-21 shit to get fixed?
I don't even want the Viggen or F-14 anymore. Leatherneck is a WASTE.
>>152300556
I want it fixed too but don't let that stop you from me from shooting down shitloads of F-5s on the BASIS server. I've been doing just fine with the crappy radar that only above 3km.
>>152300387
He also killed like 5 F-5 in that grudge match.
SLAVSHITS AND FURRIES OUT!
YOU WANT COMMUNISM AND SLAVSHIT GO TO CAMBODIA AND STARVE TO DEATH
>>152301598
It can't be helped.
hello?
h-
ello?
Removing Chechen Ops when?
>>152304401
>>152304813
>>152304984
It's time to give this thread new legs.
>>152305829
What does the jappo text even say
Do people here play strike fighters 2?
I had much fun with the single player of that. Also like the plane selection and the theaters like Israel.
Flight and weapon models are at most mediocre but damn. We could have lots of this fun in dcs.
>>152295685
Oooh shit hornets when
Can't wait to ripple fire TEN FUCKING AMRAAMs
>>152307694
There's a few that own and have played it but since there is no MP it can only be played for so long.
>>152308436
>yfw no server allows the REMOVE SLAV loadout because the flood of slavboo tears would drown the earth in a second Genesis
>>152308969
Yeah, because there are SO MANY servers that restrict usage of the slammer already, right?
>>152308969
How many amraams can a super bug carry though? 12?
I've really been starting to like the Mi-8. When I first bought it I thought it was fat and dumb but now I like it, it's very comfy.
Too bad BST will never ever give us our door and rear gunners because they've basically abandoned us at this point.
>>152294484
>1959+57
>not flying in God's Plane and its derivatives
wew laddie
>>152309936
>door gunners
They said they'll add it with the release version.
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2847337#post2847337
>>152310548
Released never ever.
>>152306718
Matt Wagner is sitting all day, in the original position of CIA agent.
Or something like that.
>there are ace combat skins that unironically look good on the mirage
Fucking kill me, I might have to go do it.
>>152313274
boy he bout to do it
>got the CLS BAe-146 a while ago
>thought it was broken because I couldn't control it
>thought it was because I torrented it
>now I just figured out that it default starts cold and dark and I have to actually boot the damn thing up manually
jesus I am fucking retarded
>>152308969
>inb4 12 amraams make it fly like shit, and the wings snap off.
>>152315970
>what is fly by wire
>>152316019
>what is fly by wire
>>152316078
>what is fly by wire
>>152316225
>what is fly by fire
>>152313274
There's no shame in liking both arcade and sim shit, anon.
>>152316579
>Mirage
>Sim
>wire fire by fly dire mire gas the furries
>>152296810
>The Russian Air Force grounded all its MiG-29s following a crash in Siberia on 17 October 2008.[26] Following a second crash with a MiG-29 in east Siberia in December 2008,[27][28] Russian officials admitted that most MiG-29 fighters in the Russian Air Force were incapable of performing combat duties due to poor maintenance. The age of the aircraft was also an important factor as about 70% of the MiGs were considered to be too old to take to the skies.[29] The Russian MiG-29s have not received updates since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
>>152318160
Mig-35 is their last chance. Really hope it becomes a thing. Keeps the aesthetics of the old Fulcrums, but avionics like the Su-35.
But until then, it looks as though Russia friendship with Mikoyan ended, Sukhoi is now best friend.
Are light tactical fighters just an outdated thing?
I think its only hope is that people look at it as cheaper and simpler Su-35. I'm sure thats what its marketed as.
HOW DO I RUN BMS IN WINDOWED MODE FUCK
>>152318930
nvm
>>152318160
Fuck off Stipe Žeravica
>>152318806
Light fighters are perfect for countries that don't have millions of square miles to protect, or are neutral but still need an air force for defense. See: F-5, Super Tucano, T-100, the myriad of other small fast jets used by trainers in large air forces but are still very much combat operative.
>>152299642
BMD-4?
>>152320014
No, T95
>mfw all of the bait in this thread was me
I united the thread against the true nato menace.
>>152321296
Please kill yourself for the good of the thread.
>>152321814
bodied :^)
>>152321296
>harmtard is an insufferable cunt
stop the presses.
>>152323635
mad as fuck :^)
>>152296810
>>152297735
>>152298330
>>152318160
holy shit slavs btfo'd so hard, this is why I stay out of the TS and away from slavaboos like harmless
the only thing I ask if they stay out of the thread and quit spamming slav propaganda
F-14 when? I wanna blow apart Mig-29s with this thing
>>152324380protip : 90% of the TS thinks hes a total moron beside his slav jerkoff crew of two other retards
>>152324380
>quit spamming slav propaganda
Not gonna happen comrade, the USSR has some awesome propaganda posters.
>>152324380
i wonder who could be behind these posts lmfao
>>152324938
>slav jerkoff crew of two other retards
So the entire TS?
Can we go back to quality content?
>tfw you will never be this happy
>>152222265
Not sure how modding works in DCS, but if I install Caucasus better textures, will I still be able to join 104th or any other dcs server?
>>152325616
DCS: OV-10
Fucking
When
>>152327097
meme plane gazlel tier
almost as useless as a trainer
so how are the mistrals on the gazlel
can you fuck up eagle drivers with them?
Best helicopter? I've got the KA-50
>>152330206
until we get a cobra or a hind, ka-50. it's the only gunship in dcs right now.
>>152330206
You already have it man
>>152330380
I realise that.
Let me rephrase. Best one to get after the Blackshark
>>152330824
Huey is ballin'
The Mi-8 is basically more of the same from the Huey but more complicated and with the capability to carry a shitload more guns
The Gazlel is neat but it's not super useful
>>152328368
the missles are fucked up right now and not very useful. I was just reading the ED forums though and Polychop said they will be fixed in the next patch at least
>>152330824
Get the Hind next
>>152331296
>Polychop, Belsimtek, and RAZBAM are all able to get fixes pushed into patches when they say they will
>when Leatherneck says they have the MiG-21's radar fixed, it takes 6 weeks or longer for the fix to make it into a patch
???????
>>152332417
These are the people in charge of arguably the most anticipated simulation of all fucking time.
>>152332838
It'll essentially be abandonware after 2 years just like the MiG-21bis.
>>152222265
I installed flyables mod, buuut I can't seem to be able to pilot any of flyables
What the heck
They're yellow in mission editor tho
There are not enough aviation videos in this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw8YJ0zqMqs
>>152334295
do you have flaming cliffs?
This thing rolls up to the dmz one day and slaps your U-2's ass at 98,000ft. What do you do?
>>152335984
GO FAST
Sleepy thread
>Magic II hits MiG-29 square on the nose
>no visible damage taken
and I thought the baguette's damage model was horse shit
>>152340821
Damage in DCS in general is shit tБh. I hit an Mi-8 square in the ass end with a mistral earlier today and it flew on fine. Put a burst of the Kurfurst's 30mm onto a P-51 and it flew away under its own power.
At this point I can't really take DCS as an air-to-air combat simulator seriously. If they unfuck the missiles, damage modelling, proximity fuzing, their godawful netcode- MAYBE then, but for now I just use it for shitting on Georgian tanks in the Ka-50.
>>152334585
nope, rip
>>152341016
I have much more fun doing A2A in BMS than in DCS
>>152341058
That why.
You need it to use the flyables.
>>152341016
It not even that bad stop being melodramatic you furry faggot.
>>152341158
Stop shitting up the thread thinking everyone here is from the teamspeak
>>152341067
I just can't get into BMS. I don't really give a shit about the F-16 and I got used to having the tooltips to help me find specific shit for ramp starting in DCS.
>>152341016
DESU anon this is the first time I've had something blatantly ridiculous happen so I'm inclined to let it slide.
It seems to be isolated to certain modules more than anything. The Mi-8 being able to fly while on fire is nothing new though, shit's been doing that forever, it's not like it's a notoriously hardy chopper or anything..
the P-51 scenario may be fucked however. Or, you know, all sorts of shit could have happened because it's a fucking cannon shot.
>>152341313
kill yourself furry
>>152341313
>I don't really give a shit about the F-16
That's fair enough if you don't like the aircraft. I'm not particularly bothered by it but it's pretty fun to fly. The lack of tooltips can be a bit of a pain but the ramp start is so much more simple than the A-10C that you don't really need them after your first ramp start.
BMS is also much improved by multiplayer
>>152341731
I mean I played it some, and I enjoyed fucking around with infrastructure attacks and looking at my own BDAs, but the F-16 is kind of a boring plane IMO
If they get a full-fidelity F/A-18 I'll slob on their fuckin knobs though.
>Shitposting just as rampant as ever
>Seems to fizzle out as we move from American hours back to Yuro time
Why does the rest of the world not just collectively nuke America again?
>>152342857
>>152342857
most of the shitposting I see is during the early-morning hours, and I'm in one of the early US timezones.
It's not just Americans.
>>152342930
>Country isn't even there
Get fucked :^)
>>152342857
its not so much americans as morons who think posting stuff like 'THIS IS WHAT DEATH LOOKS LIKE' on a b-52 pic
which is an international disease of the mind
>>152341905
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. The F16 doesn't excite me but dat dynamic campaign
>>152343541
*who think posting etc is cool
accidentally a word or two
>>152343678
Yeah the dynamic campaign is why I still have BMS installed
Goddammit why can't ED actually fucking use the results of that goddamn poll and make their game not-shit?
>>152343541
>large single-engine design
>2006+10
This concerns me every time I see it, even on older birds. It's like saying "SHOOT HERE, FUCKFACE!" to whatever manages to get on your six.
At least with twin engines you might be able to awkwardly limp home after one takes a hit.
>>152344000
The f-16 has very and reliable engines though, there are videos of the engine taking a bird strike and still working enough to get the plane home.
>>152340821
Well you know the mig-29A doesn't even have visible damage model in yet.
>>152344206
Anon, a bird and a 20-30mm high explosive shell are very different things, and we're talking about completely different points of entry.
Still pretty cool that Vipers/Falcons have managed to get to base after sucking in a bird, though.
>>152344348
Yeah, birds are a lot bigger
>>152344330
I mean, it didn't seem to have taken any other damage either, but the shot was fired from within no-escape range and the dumbass was coming head-on. I expected it to do a bit more than nothing.
>>152344348
No aircraft are designed to take accurate fire, especially not cannon hits. I doubt a single fighter airframe could withstand a burs. Watch any guncam footage of post 1st gen guns kills.
>>152344206
>>152344348
thats because f-16s have a backup engine
>slavboos BTFO
>>152345293
(you)
>>152344912
That's what I'm thinking - pretty much any shot, especially right up the tailpipe should be more or less catastrophic for the airframe getting dunked on.
Even with two engines like on an F-14, F-15, MiG-29, Su-27, etc, I'd be surprised if the explosion from one engine getting blasted didn't kick out enough shrapnel to fuck the other up as well.
>>152345636
It's more the issue of the fuel igniting, so much guncam kill footage from the various Israeli wars have a hit MiG burst into a huge fireball at the slightest hit from an ADEN.
>>152345740
That was gonna' be my next point, yeah - even if hitting a non-critical component there's still fuel practically all over most airframes just waiting to burst into flames.
>>152344000
>fighters
>2006+10
don't kid yourself
Why do so few sim games neglect the actual "game" part of their makeup so much? There's so much effort put into modelling and simulating aircraft and tanks and ships and shit so well, but then when you get to the actual directed gameplay shit it almost always feels like it was a secondary concern to the developers
I'm not talking exclusively about dynamic campaign systems (though those are a very good example of directed gameplay being a serious development consideration), but just like... actual mission content and shit, ones that don't break if you fly or drive or cruise slightly out of spec or do something out of turn, and are actually more complex than just "find the bad guy in this area and kill it". Or, mission editors that don't rely on shitloads of unstable user-coding to actually do anything beyond make some AI units rigidly follow a series of waypoints. This shit can't be that hard, can it? To actually make a simulation game fun to play beyond the initial rush of learning how to operate a new vehicle?
Just stayed up for 20 hours and played the invasion of Korea in CMANO
There's a piece of shit bug where F-80s zoom past the slow Yaks and get shot down every time they overshoot. They haven't implemented energy fighting because most scenarios are based around missiles REEE
>>152347070
That's actually a good question and the answer I think stems from the obsessive demand for ultimate realism at all costs and prioritize it above all else. DCS (and modern sims in general) have raised the bar for realism so high that it's been at the cost of making an interesting game.
The developers of these sims are all small teams, and even if they wanted to make a cool ass mercenary campaign where you buy and maintain your own plane and squadron through a cool campaign with a story, there's just not enough budget or time left over to do those things. There's also no demand for it as the "simulation value" of a sim is what's apparently most important to everybody and supposedly what brings in the money. I think there's also an aspect of the developers just loving the simulation aspect of it, and the kinds of people attracted to this kind of job are the very analytical engineer types and not the creative types.
There's no pressure either internally or externally to really make a game out of these sims.
Simracing has this exact same issue these days as well.
>>152347070
I think it's because developers who are good at gameplay design get snapped up for normie projects.
A lot of devs on realistic games are egotistical and defensive and say 'duh war is boring' or something to that effect to cover up the lack of gameplay.
>>152348337
>and even if they wanted to make a cool ass mercenary campaign where you buy and maintain your own plane and squadron through a cool campaign with a story,
A simulation general full of neckbeared NEETS who have insane amounts of time on their hands couldn't even pull that off.
>>152348143
>losses:
>1x binoculars
How did that happen?
>>152251619
Need more modern stuff, F-15 is too easy to shoot down in the Su27.
>>152348449
Planes and mercs died because nobody fucking did anything with it. There were ideas there, but nobody would take initiative to act on anything.
But what should you expect from a group of lazy autists
>>152348337
It's just so fucking mind-boggling to me, man. If I got even a token campaign with some degree of persistence- like, if the jet I took into combat and took light AAA to the wing had to be taken off the flight line for a couple of days to plug the holes, which meant that I'd be one plane short for a following sortie- I'd be happy.the conspiracy theorist part of me is saying that DCS actively avoids making their game more interesting to fuel the hype for new aircraft, as that's basically all that adds any variety to the game and it guarantees some degree of sales even on boring-ass aircraft like the l-39
>instead we get A-10 meme campaigns voiced by a furry faggot
kill me
>>152348689
>Planes and mercs died
It died because it was a dumb idea that was never going to work in DCS where you have to buy aircraft with real money, many people only have a handful of modules.
It would only work in a game like IL2 1946 with gorillions of planes all included in the same package.
>>152349621
The main idea of planes and mercs isn't buying planes, it's buying weapons. Bombs, missiles, rockets, shit like that- if you read through the OG planes and mercs shit most of the pilots stuck with the aircraft they started the campaign with.
In DCS, it was really just a neat idea to force a bit more variety in aircraft weapon loadouts. There are a lot of missiles in DCS that just aren't worth using because there are much better ones available. Same goes for bombs- why ever use a standard mk.82 when you can drop a JDAM? Adding in pricing for weapons would force a degree of variety to player weapon loadouts, as those more capable weapons would obviously cost more and thus would only really be worth using if you had money to burn or were accomplishing some high-paying objective with them.
>>152349849
Tyrannik & I discussed it in ts a while back and didn't see a way to do that save for out of game pen & paper RPGing, which given how autistic /simg/ is would probably not work out well. The armoury system for airbases in DCS is not particularly fleshed out and can be buggy if you try and do fancy things with it.
>>152350021
I'm aware that it'd have to be done via pen and paper- I think I was talking about that being the likely route in the thread back when planes and mercs was one of the things we were talking about. So yeah, you couldn't just open the floodgates and let in everybody with a /da bois/ tag join up, but I still think it was an idea worth exploring a bit more than we ended up doing.
Blue flag is up for testing and it's running dog fight missile only settings
>>152348505
Some dude with binos on air raid watch caught a stray one
Any of you print out/bind any of the manuals?
I've been tempted as it might be nice to have something in hand rather than having to scroll through a digital pdf.
>>152352469
I made my own abridged manuals for a few aircraft, with the full startup and emergency procedures. I'm not a fan of the formatting in many of the official manuals.
>>152349621
>>152349621
It died because everyone expected someone else to do all the work, and then just review it and say what should be changed.
Fuck that you bunch of commies.
>>152353810
t. entitled shitposter
The usual people who make missions talked about it and figured in the end it wasn't worth the effort / was impossible.
Fuck you too, tt was never going to work in dcs.
anyone want to fly ka50?
>>152354207
The usual people who make missions don't even know how the editor works.
>>152354469
I love weekend shitposting too :^))))
Arma 3 has following jet mods
Su-22
Su-25
Su-27
Su-30
Su-34
Su-35
Mig-21
Mig-29K
F-14
F-15
F-16
F-18E/F
F-22
F-35
A-10
EF-2000
L-39
etc
It also has
SA-2
SA-3
SA-10
SA-20
SA-11
SA-15
SA-17
SA-19
NASAMS
MIM-23
MIM-104
etc
SAMs
Why do you play shitty DCS with 10 or so jets?
6x more effective than legacy aircraft
>>152355301
Because ArmA 3 is shit when it comes to aircraft simulation.
For infantry and mechanized combat it is decent, at most. That's what I prefer using in it.
>>152355301
plz tel me ur joking m8
>>152356795
I don't. I can post screenshot of any jet/SAM from this list if you wish.
AFGHAN OPS WHEN
OPS WHEN
>Watching documentary about strategic bombing
>In 1940 British bombers lost more crewmen than the number of people their bombs killed
>44% of all British bomber crewmen killed
>American bomber crews over Europe had a 0% chance of completing their tour
>>152357725
I'm a working man, I only get weekends to develop the op, and that's if I'm not spending those weekends going out. I'll prepare mission 4 and then we'll see what happens tonight.
>>152357843
>44% of all British bomber crewmen killed
*in the whole war
>>152358018
Your effort is greatly appreciated my man
Can you make it at a kinda yuropoor-friendly time at least
>>152358018
Thank you for your service
>>152358018
God's work
Hit me up with a link to the mission file if you want it present on the planefag pastebin. I plan to update some mission links there soon and including Afghan ops would be nice for potential hosts.
post canards
>>152357368
Arma is an infantry game first and foremost. Everything else is there to support infantry, and is limited by Arma's engine. The only thing close to decent is their advanced helicopter flight model.
Falcon Online is live!it's going to crash!
>>152365593
The helo AFM is shit anyway
>>152364416
>>152365593
>>152366220
Arma's helo AFM isn't THAT bad but only if you've never played DCS which has the most accurate simulations of helos in it. Then it feels like shit.
Also noone plays with AFM in Arma because it's almost never enforced and puts you at a disadvantage.
>>152366023
How do I sign up. I probably won't be able to play for a few days anyway, and I'm shit at BMS
>>152366023
Anyone going to be flying after 10:00pm EST/2:00 Zulu?
>>152367938
Get greg to add you into the simg squadron.
>>152368239I might already be in I'm not sure
What would be the average altitude that a world war 2 plane would release their bombs against an enemy ship? Both for diving and level bombing.
>>152371136
I'd imagine diving you don't want to be too close obviously, but you're still trying to hit a relatively small and potentially moving target. As for level bombing? I didn't realise they were used against ships.
>>152373109
>level bombing? I didn't realise they were used against ships.
I don't know either.
I can hit a ship in DCS at 1000ft level bombing with the mig-21/F-5E tho
>>152334409
pure sex
>>152373520
Level bombers are far too big to be attacking a ship with if you're going to be flying a predictable path with consistent speed and altitude in order to hit the target accurately, and you're gonna need to otherwise your bombardier sight is useless.
I'd say dive bombers were the way to go, and altitude of release is really just whenever you can loose them to hit consistently and not get fucked by enemy fire, There's a reason the US navy used a fair few dive bombers in WWII, and it wasn't only because they were smaller and easier to operate off a carrier than say a heavy bomber.
>mfw blue flag testing went up and Blue lost in a day
>>152371136
I guess skip bombing is technically level bombing? So you would fly perpendicular to the ship at very low level, then release the bomb in such a way that it skips over the water until it reaches the ship. Ideally the bomb would then detonate.
The other option is to fly along the centerline. Again, you need to be as low as possible. For one, the lower you are, the less time the bombs are in the air, thus reducing CEP as well as the target's time to dodge. The other thing is that by flying low, you are harder to make out against the horizon (than for instance against the sky) so flak gunners have a harder time.
Level bombing ships from high altitude is not a tactic that is a thing.
What you need to account for in both those scenarios is the time-delayed fuzes you have on those bombs. Obviously you need a minimum delay of a few seconds as to not frag yourself. If you're attacking with wingmen, those need to be over the target either in the same timeframe (i.e. when the first bomb is still counting down) or much later. However, you don't want the timers to be too long either, because generally, bombs don't float on water. Now, the bomb detonating in the water under the ship causes considerable damage as well (sometimes even more than it would had it actually hit the ship) but if it goes too deep, it does nothing again.
>tl;dr
Fuzes are important but mostly guesswork.
cont.
>>152376458
cont.
For dive bombing, drop altitude is a function of your own fear of the enemy gunners, and eventually the ground level. Quoting from literature, "with targets that small, they had to dive as low as possible, but on the other hand didn't have to start their dive all the way up at 4000m" (that being the typical cruising altitude of a StuKa. Typically, you would "stair-dive", i.e. select a target, start your dive, target moves, abort the dive, select a new one, etc.
Diving (keep in mind the StuKas did vertical dives, scary shit yo) to 500m and then releasing the bombs was considered the lower end of the spectrum then, and really 500m is not a lot to pull out of a 90° dive. But still with ships being somewhat nimble (compared to, say, a bunker) and most importantly moving in unpredictable patterns, hitting them with your average 250 or 500kg bomb is largely also a matter of luck.
Quotes and paraphrasing from Cajus Bekker, "Angriffshöhe 4000", Gerhard Stalling publishing house, pp.122, 126-128, 286-289.
>citing sources on 4chan
fuck you, I do what I want
>>152376458
Doesn't matter as long as you are low as shit.
The Norden bombsite was actually designed so that high altitude bombers could hit ships. Of course in practice this didn't go to plan as was seen in the battle of midway
>>152377343
>Doesn't matter as long as you are low as shit.
Uh... which part?
Yeah, hitting ships with (unguided) bombs from high altitude was a bad idea as soon as the ships figured out that "random zigzags as soon as a plane is in sight" massively reduces the chance of getting hit
>>152367689
Not him but.
I can't fly the standard flight model in arma at all, the AFM can sort of not crash, but the feeling of your helicopter not having any weight especially in transition just wrecks my brain, while i'm pretty good at DCS helis.
>>152377849
I know that feel
>couple hundred hours in DCS
>literally thousands (yes plural) in IL2
>playbattlefieldwith friends
>nope
>>152377343
>that A-20G with 6 .50 cals on the nose.
God I fucking love the A-20G.
>>152377169
Doing my dissertation on the effects that precision guided munitions had on warfare so your source might be useful for me when talking about the birth of the concept
>>152378085
>>152377849
Flying helicopters in other games is so disconnected from reality that I don't even see it as the same thing. It's a totally different set of skills and has nothing to do with how anything flies in real life. I don't have a problem separating the two. I can fly just fine inBattlefieldand in DCS.
>>152378612
then by all means use it. Pic related, middle one. Yes its fixed with duct tape.
Kinda doubt though that an English version exists...
>>152379049
When I get round to writing it if you wouldn't mind sending me some relevant translated texts it'd appreciate it greatly
>>152377719
Unless attacking an armoured target such as a warship, low level skip bombing os the way to go and angle of incidence doesn't matter as much as you'd think as seen in the image with the A-20. Not the one in this post tho
>>152379437
numberedfolders is my 4chan email address
with aol, yes people still use that
best ask specific questions though, cant be arsed to translate the whole thing. gotta write my own bachelors thesis someday too
>>152379437
>>152378612
oh, and you want to look into ISBN 978-1-907446-59-7
>>152380067
>>152379887
Cheers laddy
So seeing books here decided to look through mine to see if I had anything.
I found these, the one on the left is a fucking gold mine. It literally goes through every single air war from WWI-the gulf war in extreme detail. Super interesting stuff, it's like 500 pages long. Turns out you can buy it for real cheap online too:
https://www.valorebooks.com/vb/cart/addItem?product_id=9922787&listing_id=&sellerMarket_id=1635461411&shippingType=Standard&condition=Very+Good
>>152385304
Fucking want.
Does it talk about specific engagements?
Does it say anything about the MiG-29 shootdowns over Yugoslavia? I can't find much info on how those engagements went down.
>>152385526
I'll look and get back to you.
>>152385526
>Does it say anything about the MiG-29 shootdowns over Yugoslavia? I can't find much info on how those engagements went down.
There's a serbian documentary about it, probably on youtube.
Basically half the planes didn't have functioning RWR and were in various other dilapidated states.
Did the Serbian mig-21 pilot who works for LNS actually scramble against any muricans or bomb kebab?
I mean LNS are swedish so they probably wouldn't stand for that...
>>152385782
Fucking rip.
So they just flew straight into AIM-120's. Amazing.
https://youtu.be/q-gJxd2K7H4
>>152385526
None that I could see, there is only a few pages on the yugoslav wars. There's 4 pages on Bosnia and 2 on the fall of Yugoslavia. I might have just missed it. If you're super interested I could take some pics, I can get in pretty high resolution so you could read them.
>>152386032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IrERHrzC1s
They would have either just been kept in hangars or done a last minute scramble so there's no time for Americans to do BVR like in the second part of this video
>>152387430
sorry is this your thread?
oh wait.
>>152387430
>Not your blog
Wew lad
>>152387905
>anime posting
fucking kill yourself
>>152386032
Yeah pretty much, one pilot was flying, and he pretty much felt the plane just bounce, and flames everywhere.
One good thing, those Russian ejection seats, every pilot that ejected survived, i think 1 or 2 only died but that's because they never ejected.
This thread is my blog.
>>152387430
Shit, you got me anon.
how hard are dcs hellies
>>152390364
One thing nobody can give DCS shit for is its rotary wing simulation. Its the best ever made basically.
So, to answer your question, exactly as hard as they would be IRL.
>>152390110
why was she so perfect ;_;
>>152390347
>photoshop
>>152390727
YF-23 was too good for this world.
>>152387430
Hey whats your address so we cna meet up and discuss how we hate blogs
Something about the MiG-25 with its 4 R-40's just looks so fucking right.
>yfw one of these fuckers killed a god damn F-18C
>>152390727
I think it's pretty ugly desu.
>>152390938
Just got the Afghanistan textures for dcs working. My God this shits aesthetic.
Been sending the Ai to do tank battles and gun runs and shit all afternoon.
Might actually fly some plens later
>>152391053
NASA's F-16XL (or whatever that is) looks like a spaceship out of shmup.
>>152390718
cool. i just started getting to learn how to fly them and its p hard to land. flying is ok but everything else is so fucking hard. i feel bad for the cost herd pilots that have to fly in bad weather.
>>152391192
2bh i'm amazed there aren't more helicopter crashes aboard navel vessels desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJIZTL2ZyEw
>>152390938
>tfw the F-18C is actually cheaper then a MiG-25
slavaboons absolutely blown the fuck out
A flight of 4 MiG-31's can cover an airspace 900km wide, detecting targets that are on the deck to near space.
For reference, in DCS the distance from the most north-western air base (Anapa) to the most south-eastern airbase (Tbilisi) is 730km.
4 Foxhounds could cover the entire Caucasus map.
If you've ever wondered why Russia still has a dedicated interceptor in service, there's your answer.
The MiG-31BM is an absolute beast.
>>152391891
It's almost as if you want to give me a heart attack
>>152392415
Mig-31 is a Russian solution for a Russian problem
Though canada would probably do good to have that as well.
>>152392443
>AMD
Who is this semen demon?
>>152392781
Bottom text
>>152391891
>that fucking swell
muh dik
>>152393110
Amazing.
>>152391891
Everytime I watch this video it stresses me the fuck out.
Like you're flying something that operates on spinning blades, you have to worry about VRS, you have to keep it in a hover. All the while you're moving and the thing you are landing on is also moving.
Like fuck.
DAILY REMINDER THAT THE MIG-25 COSTS MORE THEN THE F-18
>>152393123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx57-LnuuFs
>>152393662
Fuck off wat/craig
>>152391952
>>152393662
Genuinely surprised at this.
But I guess that's why the F-18 is 0-1 against MiG-25's :^)
>>152393765
unnf, I wish we had a proper naval module in DCS with seas like this.
>>152393949
Don't we all.
Funny how the migers talk good about their out aircraft while the f15fags autistically shit on everything they dont like
>>152393949
Not quite the same, but eventually we will have some pretty fucking good carrier ops.
F-18's, F-14's, Harriers.
Best part is we will get to fly off a carrier, over sand, and drop bombs on disgusting brown people.
Its gonna be a good time.
no one cares about soviet planes lol
>>152394156
Its just one guy who likes to bait. Don't dwell on it too much.
Reminder that you are allowed to like all planes.
>>152394173
INB4 some slavboo starts crying about how we aren't getting any Russian planes
>>152394362
is his nameharmtard
>>152394402
but I'm a slavboo and I'm still excited.
Besides the F-14 is literally an American carrier-based MiG-31 that isn't as fast but can actually turn. I'm hype.
>>152394402
You need to stop
>>152394402
I mean people shit on the Su-33 a ton but I'll definitely fly it a bunch when the PFM comes out. It will be lit.
>>152394637
Tbh I want to fly it now. But nobody wants to here.
DAILY REMINDER THAT THE MIG-25 COSTS 50 MILLION PER UNIT
AND IT'S A PIECE OF SHIT
>>152394605
> it was able to take off with that load but it wasn't able to land with it
I wonder who's going to be the first person to try it in DCS when it comes out
>>152394362
K thanks
>>152394735
I'd be down if you have some ops with it.
Its fun to fly because its an Su-27 with 2 more ER's that doesn't wing snap.
It feels really scrubby to fly it online against others, because really the only reason to fly it is because the SFM makes it easier.
>>152394742
>implying unit cost is relevant
obliterate yourself
I appreciate the fact that your trying to bait the MiG-25 butthurt brigade, but seriously kill yourself.
>>152394987
>implying unit cost isn't relevant for a poor shithole
L M B O
nice try delusional slavaboo
>>152394156
I'm very fond of the F-15 and wish it was a fully fledged module. At the same time I love the F-5, the MiG-21 and the Mirage. All fantastic aircraft. I'll make my debut in WWII with the Spit IX. I don't understand where all the hate for other modules and the people who fly them comes from. Perhaps it is a good thing that I don't play Blue flag
>>152394883
Did they never go up with that many then? 99.999% of patrols never fire a missile so I wonder what the standard load out was. Maybe 4?
Since its DCS I fully expect everyone to go up with that many, and just jettison them into the water if they are coming home.
>>152394987
Please stop replying to this dude before I get blamed for it non stop in the thread.
CA Update when
>>152395238
Having 2 was the standard
>>152395238you did this to yourself harmtardenjoy it senpai
>you will never slog it out in the ruins of a syrian city with full-fidelity BMP and T-72 modules and a thrustmaster force feedback chair
>>152397319
shut up nerd
>>152397257
You can do that in Steel Beasts
>>152394402
>inb4 everyone whines about no good sea based battles because slavs only have the su-33
>>152391891
Jesus christ.
ADD GOOD ASS PLANE AND MILITARY RELATED SONGS HERE
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLGfGalIdY7DatF5tBP4hSBMgXMlualFd&jct=Sx_xgoSZUktkKR1RnJWyepVA4lv84w
This is the only way I'd ever attempt to land a chopper on a ship.
Anything else is too spooky.
>>152222408
why, its fast but it can turn without bending the frame.
>>152403026
I'm about to take the uh1 out to the Nimitz but I am sight seeing right now
Is there any updated mirror for the CMANO DB images pack? Google drive is a bitch and kills the download after 100mb.
>>152397590
>cities
>in SB
hope you like getting like five frames per second
How do you guys keep your fingers from getting tired when holding your stick for a long time. Ho homo.
>>152404659
What the fuck are you doing that makes your fingers tired?
>>152404659
are you fingering your butthole while you grip the stick? of course u would u faggot furry
>t. ivan
>>152398773
I have filled the playlist with a smattering of autism from NATO and Pact. Try not to fuck it up this time.
>>152404659
My fingers are the least of my problems right now.
>>152405448
>salad fingers
>>152405873
i use them for fingering a fretboard and also ur mum lmao
>>152404894
>>152405097
>>152405448
Maybe I just am griping it too tight
Also I crashed on the way to the Nimitz and are too lazy to make the long trip again
>>152406058
>this is from DCS
Fucking 2.5 WHEN
>>152406319
December 31st
>>152406076
>that image
More autismal than any MiG image I've ever seen, shit.
Also you prolly are just gripping it too tightly. I'm an x52 pleb and have to keep my hand fairly relaxed or just rest my fingers along the plastic bit that juts out in front of the stick while just cruising.
>>152406076
a light grip is good. most of the time when I'm flying i just have two fingers on the stick, lightly pushing and pulling on it to do whatever.
Also, center-mount your stick. Sidestick on most desks is shit.
>>152406721
Yep December 31st,2019
>>152406076
Stop jerking off you faggot.
>>152404659
With trim you dumb fuck.
>>152406945
>>152406721
>>152407137
>What's FBW?
Kill yourself slavcuck
>>152406741
>>152407137
Trimming a uh1 is hard
>>152407242
Retard
>>152391891
Thank fucking christ for the beartrap
>>152407434
>>152391891
ok even with a hauldown that shit is dicey jesus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p1xx0ysfeM
>>152406319
but thats the new updated MiG-29A model. Its already in 1.5
>>152407305
>Trimming a uh1 is hard
Not really. Get it close enough and then gently adjust with a light touch.
>>152407782
Oh shit.
I must not have noticed because I haven't launched an FC3 plane in months. Neat.
>>152407725
My chest hurts
ATTENTION
If ANYONE here speaks Italian and can do some /simg/ espionage for us, the entire DCS community will thank youwe can get some Italian's huge ass well made private modpack with literal tons of planes and modeled cockpits
>>152409118
Mission 4 previewtfw DCS infantry have fuck all for animations
>>152411203
The VDV do, but the regular riflemen are very high quality. They even have idle animations ffs, they blink too.
>>152411203
VEH DEH VEH
S NEBA PRIVET
ULTRA MARINIVI NABOK BERET
>>152411203
Some screenies
>>152413053
>>152413053
afghan/10
>>152413241
>>152413409
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2847587&postcount=27
wheeeeen?
>>152393836
>yfw you take off and you haven't even put your gear up and you already have a <31> on RWR
>>152416569
>tfw you're sick of a Mirage's shit
AFGHAN OPS STARTING
GET IN TS
>buying a single FC3 plane instead of the entire thing
laugh my fucking ass off
>DEVELOPMENT UPDATE #3: Phoenix Rising!
>http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=172708
>>152422956
slavboos will squirm at the sight of this
>>152423046
>implying my slavboo ass wont pretend to be this while flying the Tomcat
Get hype nigga
>>152422695
>not just any FC3 plane
>JUST the fucking F-15
That's one of the fastest ways to tell if someone's a 104th babby
>>152423353
D E L U S I O N A L
>>152421414
Now kill someone that isn't a South American with no idea what they're doing.
canadian internet service strikes again
>>152424954
:^)
>>152425118
Looks like they REALLY didn't know what they were doing.
>hold on, i'll just climb straight into space like this is ace combat, surely that will help
>>152421414
>non maneuvering mirage
>using radar assisted gun sight
>mirage at 15k feet
>F22xRaptor
OFF YOURSELF YOU FUCKING MEMESHIT
>>152425261
>>152425346
:^)
>>152425346
Wats wrong with dar assisted guns
What new features the updated Kuznetsov model will bring to DCS, besides being "high-definition" and foreseeably costing 60 usd?
>>152425679
I think that's the 'fully modeled interior' part. I.E you can be super autismo and take the elevator up to the flight deck. Will probably give you the ability to store a lot more Su-33s on it as well.
>>152425512
>HAVING THE GUN CAMERA ENABLED AT ANY TIME
YOU ARE LITERALLY RETARDED
I KEEP SEEING YOU POST WITH THIS ENABLED
IT DOES NOTHING BUT BLOCK YOUR VISION
STOP JUST FLIPPING ALL THE SWITCHES WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THEY DO LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT
>>152425968
But it's more aesthetic this way
>>152426069
You don't even know where the switch is do you?
>>152425968
what this anon said, desu.
If you need help, I can translate shit from the cockpit for you at any time. Or you could just set your cockpit to english, you clearly need it.
>not being able to read russian in 2016
Afghan ops restarting at 2100 PDT. Hopefully internet won't shit itself this time.
>>152426069
>giving up ability to look at whats below your gun-sight with the mig 21 for looks
>>152426298
>>152426430
I know where it is.But I like it on
Raptor kills himself when?
>>152426613
>>152426904
Hopefully soon
>>152426613to be honest, I used to turn it on too, thinking that maybe it did something if the plane's black box actually records shit to a data file. I thought it was faking up guncam footage somewhere, fucking something had to explain the 30fps I lose when flying MiG-21
>>152426572
>>152426904
>>152426982
>>152426993
>being this upset about someone else's preferences
>>152426462
>2016
>not using UTC
nigga the world doesn't revolve around you.
>>152427164
Shut up raptor
>>152427108
wait so does it actually record or no?
>>152427164
i am not upset anon, only disappointed in you
>>152427436
No. Not that I could tell after spelunking in all the folders related to MiG-21 for a while.
Here's what the SARPP does though.
>>152425892
I'd really enjoy walking around in the bridge for example. But yeah, it's probably going to be primarily the hangar, just as you say.
>ability to store lot more
Nah, I don't think they'll move past the real world aircraft carrying capacity. It can carry about ... 12-24 aircraft? Not that much, despite being in the ~50-60,000 tonne displacement category (it's still essentially a super-Kiev). The russkies are still holding over the stripping of anti-ship missiles, ergo there's no aircraft storage space increase to justify that...
the ww2 modules for DCS are 40% off until the 22nd, given the choice between Dora and Kurfurst which would you get and why?
>>152430039
I think I'm gonna buy the 109K. You guys think there is any chance of a sale on the Mi-8 soon cause I might snag that too.
>>152430815
Soon?
At the very least winter sales
But it should be sooner i imagine
>Autism Folder Update
I've added Panzer Tactics like I said I would for Tankfag.
>>152433452
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3EQDvufMNdeZDdIN0RCWVpMcHM?usp=sharing
>>152425081
aesthetic as fuck
>>152437207
vas is das?
>>152437282
Ka-50 cockpit.
>>152437282
>Was ist das?
>>152437530
Bon app the teeth!
>>152438326
>>152438567
much more intense with sound
>>152441848
>>152439943
>>152442161
>>152442161
what settings and program did you use to make that webm?
Its just as long as mine but is higher res and looks better.
>>152430039
Kurfurst Kurfurst Kurfurst
The 109 is actually kind of terrifying to fight in shit like the P-51 if the pilot knows his shit. It climbs like a rocket.
>multi-crew on the Gazelle 342M works
>first third-party module to get it is by the newest dev
Belsimtek needs to step its game way the fuck up.
>>152446746
it'll be the best as soon as they actually fucking animate the skids so that there's some feedback to the pilot while he's picking it up off the ground
that being said polychop are ABAP and I'll probs preorder the bo-105 as soon as they open it up for that. I hope they do more helichoppers, I fucking love whirlybirds in DCS.
>>152446696
Outmaneuvering someone in a dogfight and obliterating them with a cannon is the best feeling, but diving on someone with the 109 is a weird delayed gratification kind of thing (depending on armament).
>I see you're tailing one of my squad mates
>It would be a shame if you got some 7.92 in your fuselage
>cya later fag, enjoy that oil leak and those holes in your wing
>>152446746
>>152446974
Oh yeah
>Polychop releases their first module
>It's a helicopter with actual thermal modelling
>so you can't just keep the collective fucking ridiculously high all the time like you can on every other helo in the game
>actually forces you to plan your loadout and understand how slow a fully-loaded combat chopper can be
Are you simulating death, guys?
>>152450352
I just got done flying ops with some dudes for 6 hours, now I'm comfy in bed with my kitty.
Someone else needs to come on station to relieve me, all out of shitpost missiles, sir.
>>152450352
We simulate everything we can, including high yield shitposts.
>the F-35 is going to be rendered obsolete within the decade by Russian and Chinese advances in infra-red sensor systems and anti-stealth ground radar.
>>152450901
Why would ground radar defeat stealth? Sure, knowing proper terrain height is important to avoid crashing when flying low, but dirt is pretty easy to see.
>>152450901
>Implying these will render the aircrafts' sensors useless
>>152450901
>>152451165
I was proving a point to the anon I was replying to by posting stupid b8. US stealth technology is going to be the thing to beat over the next 20 years and it isn't going to happen easily.
On topic tho, how do you think the F-35's sensors will effect SEAD operations? From what they've hyped up, it seems like it would make air defenses a non-threat.
>>152450901
Holy shit the absolute madman it actually worked.
We're using this warhead again.
>>152430815
>You guys think there is any chance of a sale on the Mi-8 soon cause I might snag that too.
I'd wager the Mi-8 will be fully released with it's door gunners before Christmas, I reckon it'll go on sale then like the Bf-109 just did.
>>152452167
For a planefag, what would be the best modules to grab? All I have is FC3 that I got during the summer sale. I would generally prefer something a bit closer to modern because lolnopedals
>>152452167
I thought the Mi-8's already had its release?
>>152452284
Even though it's very much finished afaik it's still technically early access kek
>>152452271
MiG 21 is always relevant in ops. F-5 is good and the Mirage is the most modern fixed wing module so far
OPS WHEN
NEVER ANY OPS FUCKING HAPPEN
OPS WHEN
>>152452271
desu it all depends on what you want, the A-10C, Mirage 2000C, and MiG-21bis are all very different, fight different opponents etc.
The Mirage is very much an FC3+ experience, you'll be doing the exact same things, just simulated to a more accurate degree. The Mirage is FBW and doesn't require pedals for any more than taxing.
Flying the MiG-21 or F-5 is like that period at the beginning of STALKER where you're more or less a hobo. They have rather limited weapons, the systems are much more finicky than the 4th gen jets and you need to be far more mindful of your energy when flying them. Both are flyable without pedals, but having them will certainly help you turn tighter in the '21. The F-5E doesn't seem to sideslip much if at all at the moment and so I never really touch the pedals in flight, howver this lack of sideslip could be a bug with the FM.
If you want a nopedals heli the Ka-50 is the most forgiving of the choppers.
Remember that most people don't have pedals, if you have a rotary stick you'll be fine most of the time.
>>152447348
109Ks had two 13mm mgs on top pf the cowling and a 30mm mk108 in the spinner
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>>152390110
what did they do with the prototype
im sure it was dismantled but...maybe.....
I'm the only one that finds this plane scary as shit? Everything in it says it's going to fuck you, your planet and your mom for the next few centuries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-MHEiOUK6c
>>152456347
Jesus just look at this and see if you don't get "The end is close" feelerinoos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTnEfRMSbbM
>>152456347
>>152456502
Does look rather sinister.
Unfortunately
>NEVER EVER
>>152451496
I suspect it will make HARMs obsolete. I've been wondering why it doesn't even seem planned for the F-35 to carry them, but after playing BMS and using SDBs to take out SAM sites, I think that's why. Imagine having a HTS with the HAD screen but integrated into your HSD that you can slew a super TGP over to any time any kind of threat appears. Then you just lob an SDB their way and that's that.
>>152451496
>>152459074
Not a non-threat certainly, but a VLO craft with modern sensor and the ability to datalink back to missile trucks would certainly make things a lot less painless, probably.
>>152455765
Both YF-23s are on display in museums. I've seen the Gray Ghost in person at the USAF museum in Ohio.
>>152453603
>but having them will certainly help you turn tighter in the '21
and how exactly do you do this?
>>152459875
Coordinate your turns to eliminate inefficient sideslip. It actually makes a difference in the MiG, being a pencil it's a sideslip machine.
>>152460434
Oh right, I thought it was another one of those bullshit HUR RUDDER IN YOUR TURN FOR MOR TUR RATE
Don't forget to roll with the rudder at high AoA!
>>152460434
>all those starfighters in close proximity
That looks like an accident waiting to happen.
>>152447547
>so you can't just keep the collective fucking ridiculously high all the time like you can on every other helo in the game
Yeah try doing that in the Ka-50 you'll drop out of the sky at the worst moment, usually in a hover.
>>152427987
It's a missile cruiser that happens to have aircraft.
Which is why it has a diesel engine.
>>152460434
whats that on the belly of the jet, a TGP?
>>152461981
recce pod
>Canadian defence cuts see Mk82s replaced with bricks.
Supposedly the f-104 would beat the F 106 in a dogfight
SLAVBOOS ON SUICIDE WATCH:
http://www.scout.com/military/warrior/story/1697094-air-force-massive-high-tech-f-15-upgrade
>>152469559
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>Two degenerate MiGGers taking off from Sochi
>Catch then just at the right time
>Ralph one of them right in the Dood with an AIM-9
>The other one panics and slams into the water
>Circle around
>They've both respawned on the ramp
>Rake them with the 20mms
>Circle around with Osas firing at me
>Chaff like mad, strafe a taxiing MiG
>More Osa launches
>No chaff left, pull too many Gees evading and black out
>Pic related myself
Is there anyone more delusional or pathetic than MiGGers?
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>>152470342
I love that gun, like a big ass revolver.
>>152469950
>"Ralph one of them right in the Dood"
Holy shit I'm crying
nice job anon
A e s t h e t i c
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>>152474879
a b s o l u t e l y f l a w l e s s
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>>152474690
>ultra slav mode
last one
>image limit
how will we cope?
New thread?
>>152480508
Start shitposting about slavaboos and gods plane.
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>>152481167
bread bread bread