/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist and Payday 2 General

___ _______ art gallery mod when

Overkill:
39.85 - two headshots for a tan
53.13 - three headshots for a tazer
79.85 - one headshot for a tan
111.79 - one headshot for a cloaker
159.69 - one headshot for a tazer

Deathwish:
39.24 - three headshots for an elite
44.98 - four headshots for a tan
60.21 - three headshots for a tan
90.32 - two headshots for a tan
117.93 - one headshot for an elite
120.42 - three headshots for a tazer
180.98 - one headshot for a tan

>>152192818
what is this

anyone that wants breakpoint information can just go here:
tonyfox ws/payday2/breakpoints/

also those numbers are inaccurate

>>152193120
They are taken straight from the most autistic guide on the internet and accounting for granularity 'n' tables 'n' sheit, that website is the inaccurate one

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4th for original crew best crew

>>152193398
>original crew
>houston

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7th for misunderstood weapons

>>152194137
>silent shitter

Why are there so many shitters playing at the moment, holy shit. I don't have high expectations while pubbing but I expect people with infamy 5 or more to know basic shit like not shooting cams.

>>152194249
To be fair, it's not like you haven't got a ton of spare points left over on a stealth build nowadays.

>>152194249
>61 damage without it

XD

>>152194279
first rule in payday 2: never stealth with pubbies on any jobs that aren't jewelry store or Bank:Heist.

You're just asking for a disaster otherwise.

>>152194447
>using it in the first place when you could just use a gun that doesn't need crutch points spent on it

>>152194407
If it's for stealth, the damage is irrelevant.

>>152194581
>If it's for stealth, the damage is irrelevant

alerted guards cant be taken down in one hit, and usually you're not killing guards unless they're alerted

>>152194480
I know. I used to play CoH looking for the worst pub teams I could find, I'm used to pd2's low tier of pubbie. It's just, it seems even worse recently. Like it's a sale period or something.

>>152194685
Then use a gun that will take them down in one hit instead of the cavity, which won't.

>and usually you're not killing guards unless they're alerted

You're trying to imply you're very good at stealth, but what you're actually implying is that your computer is shit.

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>>152194787
>Like it's a sale period or something.
>implying you won't feel the difference when the time will come

>>152194991
>You're trying to imply you're very good at stealth, but what you're actually implying is that your computer is shit

what did he mean by this?

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>>152194581
If it's irrelevant, then why do you care?

what's the point of primary AKs when there's a secondary AK

>>152194480
This
I am genuinely amazed by how many people can get spotted out front or on the side of the building when I'm inside steal thing Firestarter day 2
Especially shameful considering it's one of the more fun heist days to stealth

>>152196739
To have 2 AK’s

>>152196739
because ammo pickups and invisible stats

>>152196739
More ammo and better stats except for rate of fire
Also more utility since with dmr kits you can get a sniper basically and you can use the Izhma for a shotgun and rpk for an lmg

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Christ. I sure do wonder how this is going to turn out.

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>>152197261

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>>152196739

>>152197261
>john wick with the bodhi mark
Pure shittery

>>152197392
Pretty much. Host sounds like testicles have yet to grace his underside.

>>152197506
Naw man it's irony. Irony! I actually had no idea who John Wick was when I started playing. I don't watch movies.

>>152197678
He was talking about Milkman. You're obviously Mexican Bodhi.

>>152194991
run at solid 60 fps for all maps

once again
usually you dont want to kill guards, because pagers are valuable

so you try to avoid killing them, even when you're approaching max detection

usually you only kill a guard that is cool if you need to for an objective or if it's a control map (like GO bank, for example), or if it's for quality of life, like killing the upstair guards in ED

cavity one hits basic guards and can double tap murkies if you HS them, while having pretty good concealment

i'm not trying to imply im very good at stealth, i just personally avoid killing guards to the extreme

xth for
>hit art gallery for elephant
>take the paintings that the senator wants
>hit art gallery for bain/profit
>still only take certain paintings

???

>>152194581
I use whatever I want, cavity is a dlc item just because over kill memed all over dlc items, doesn't mean anon can't enjoy his purchase.

>>152200443
The point of the red stickers was that they were the good paintings and the rest were shit that nobody wanted to pay money for. It still makes sense.

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>>152196934
>only 2
If you're not gonna be the hardest motherfucker, why even try?

>>152203312
>Not fully modded
>Not even boosted
You aren't even trying

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>tfw absolute shitters join your dw stealth missions and host hasn't learned to just kick them on sight even after 4 straight fails caused by sub-50 retards being retarded

>>152204376
why hide your name senpai I want to fuck up your games aswell.

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>>152203581
>not modding your guns for style
pity the fool

>>152204376
>isn't host
>"YOUR" mission

>>152203581
>putting a scope on your AK
don't do that

>>152204773
You are really scraping the barrel this time.

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[s]I used to love playing PD2.
Then it went to shit.
And I've been trying to get back into it but doesn't feel the same.[/s]

>>152206197
thank u 4 bein fortrite :)

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Hey guys I finished that thing
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=747038449

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>>152091149
>>152099316
>>152099495
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Bulldozer (any_25_tank_kills)
- Dentist Appointment! (dentist_4_jobs)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

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I hate this new "eeeeverything is viable!" balance.
I used to have one full page with just ARs.
Weapons used to be different enough to have small niches, I used to pick the JP35 to have high ammo count at the cost of a little accuracy, the Commando to have a little higher firerate at the cost of no extended mag, the CAR for faggotry, differently built weapons for with and without the headshot bonus, with and without the 5% damage bonus, etc.
Now every AR is exactly the same. They demolished all the niches and there's just one big niche of all rifles being the same shit and everyone having the same bonuses. The JP35 is now IDENTICAL to the Commando, except slightly worse.
No shit everything is viable, it all shoots exactly the same (or slightly worse).

And whose bright idea was to make damage variations in mods 1-2 points each?

So do any of the melee skills apply to the saw? I kinda want to try and make the saw viable to murder shit with and not just utility, but I'm having a pretty rough time coming up with something that just can't be done better by cutting a bitch with a katana or flag pole.

>>152208645
No.

It a strange feeling I have with payday, they put a lot of effort into marketing and I assume into the dlc that follows. The prices are not always worth it but the steam sales mean if your patient you can just buy the dlc on the cheap.

I can't decide if payday 2 is a good game run buy developers who love their game but are incompetent and make mistakes.

or a mediocre game with awful stealth run by guys who don't know what the fuck is going on gameplaywise whose only really talent is marketing.

>>152207251
>not using the AMR-16
It's one of the least molested weapons that has been top tier since launch

>>152209050
It would be so much better if it was handled by some different developers but Overkill has put a ton more love into the game than most real big modern game development studios
Also Overkill does not deserve the time and effort of our glorious lord Simon Viklund, he is literally the sole reason I bought this game when it first came out and by far the biggest reason I've stayed

>>152212206
Of course I do, it's the winner of the 90 niche. Which is about one of the two niches that exist anymore for ARs.

>>152212489
>ammo economy was one of the most important features that essentially defined how weapons were best used
>overkill just said fuck it and gave everything enough ammo for anything
forget damage and accuracy and stability and weapon mod values, changing ammo pools was the biggest mistake they made

>>152213043
I think giving everyone free helmet popping was a mistake too

anyone still play old payday

>>152214037
I miss tier bonuses even though I'm alright with perk decks
There was just a certain magic to getting a build with most everything you wanted in it when you had to tactically place an arbitrary number of points in each tree

>>152206582
fuck you

new side jobs when

Does the DLC unlocker also unlock steamcornmunity content if you get banned from it?

>>152218185
>getting banned

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>>152218687
I'm not of course.
I just want to know how little of a shit to give about the possibility of butthurt pubbies reporting me.

>>152218185
It should.

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63th for our cute pdg-tan

>>152219950
>not opening the bottom row or two, standing on the open doors, sawing the top row, then hopping off and sawing the middle
Kawaii please

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>>152219950
>there will never be kawaii character pack complete with voice lines and lewd implications
Why is overkill such a shit company

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*tips overkill certified fedora*

Anyone play Death Wish+, or any other difficulty mod here?

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wake me when there's a shark mask

>>152221436
>>152219950
i am completely new to /pdg/

who is this meme-haired bitch

>>152224224
irrelevant weeb shit

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>>152224224
Nothing more than an anthropomorphic of the kawaii mask.
She doesn't really have a name, some people call her /pdg/-tan, some people call her Kawaii. She's a meme.

>>152224224
there's an anime mask in the game called the kawaii mask

>>152218185
Yes

YEAH

TIGHTEST CREW EVER

>>152192560
>that feel when your friend sexually identity as a highly modified Car-4

>>152230102
So your friend is a lie

Confirmed for never ever going to become or even be close to the original/natural thing, a sniper

sale when

imagine unironically using the steam group chat

>>152230632
>Not using the steam chat
Maybe you are too much of a shitter to join

No matter how bad they fuck this game up, nobody can ever take This Is Our Time from you. Remember that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek_EVouA-CI

xth for fuck stealth

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mGIKl:eGHJL:tPr:ibcdea:pM8:::
what should i put the remaining points into?

>>152233405
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACDfGIjKl:eGHJLr:toR:fPr:ibcdea:pM8:::

>>152233405
Weapons, man!
Where's the guns!

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>>152233405
>>152233493
>mfw noone takes Duck and Cover basic and Parkour aced
your armor won't help when you move like a brick

>>152233936
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACDfGIjKl:eGHJLr:toR:fPr:ibcdea:pM8:::
happy?
the whole point is to be an unkillable cockbag so when your team inevitably fails you keep going

>>152233936
shit forgot about that when doing 'essential' skills
>>152233405
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mGIKl:eFGHjkLmNPr:tloR:gJlr:fPr:ibcdea:pM8:::

>die hard aced with ICTV
+20 armor to BALLISTIC vests, not 'all armor'

How do you judge distance in this game?
Like, how far reaching is 18 meters?

>>152235165
Use a sniper you nerd to see the distance

>>152235165
look at an objective and see how far away it is
really the only important one to keep track of is 7 meters shout distance for Inspire basic and ace

what's the best stelf heist where the main loot is gold? i just love gold as a loot item

>>152237794
Big Bank will have a bunch of gold
Framing Frame's big end thingy is gold
Shadow Raid I'm sure you'll find gold

94th for memes

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj0-DdRGy_I

>finish go bank solo stelf DW
>bain: "We won't even need a cleaner crew after that one, smooth!"
>i killed literally 25 civs

S
M
O
O
T
H

>>152238569
>GO-fuck-yourself bank solo stelf DW
Jesus christ, why would you put yourself through that?

>>152239051
I'm not sure if I'm just really lucky or what, but I rarely have issues with it

Completed it without any restarts

>>152201209
No, the red sticker indicates that the painting is sold, you retard.

GUYS, THE THERMAL DRILL, GO GET IT

>>152243613
FUCK OFF, BAIN

>>152243613
DRILL YA PIECE A SHIT

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>that feel when you'll never do lewd things to dragan

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>>152245501

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>tfw your gunfu is in this game
>tfw it's good

>inb4 silent killer

>>152192810
sexy midna art gallery mod when

>>152247945
bzzt wrong gay scalies art gallery mod when

>>152247892
>tfw the guns you like are steaming shit
Well then.

>>152247996
>love the SPAS
>tfw it's outclassed by all the other shotguns

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>mfw the Patchett L2A1 can't go above 68 accuracy even with silencers and technician accuracy skills


why does it even exist ?

>easily get 40+ stab boost from skills
>barely get 16 acc boost from skills

procc

why the FUCK can't i get above 65 acc on the famas
I need this dakka to be more accurate

>>152249563
That dakka is used for rof only. Fuck accuracy.

>>152249667
Then a sniper fucks me up because i can't shoot it
I can't shoot a sniper with an assault rifle but the mini pocket cannon called the bronco can
What is realistic behavior

i put sode

LISTEN UP

>>152249783
Well get a secondary that can deal with that or hope someone kills the snipers. Thats the price for the 1000 rof and lots of ammo.

what are some fun shot guns to use?

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I am so fucking bored of Day 1 Rats

It makes me want to literally throw up.

The thought of having to play that day again is physically painful

It's so boring, it's been played so many fucking times, there's nowhere to go, no variation, you just camp inside the house and wait, wait, wait.

>>152194581
What the fuck do you put the points in then show us your perfect build. He probably has a crit build what else in that tree are you going to put the points into nigger

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>>152219950
>Artist puts his shitty custom mask in the comic

>>152249783
>I can't shoot a sniper with an assault rifle
I do just fine with my Auto-Fire CAR-4.

Maybe you just need better aim.

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>everything going perfectly fine
>get cloaker'd once
>everyone dies

what the fuck happened

>>152241841
And they were sold because it was good...

>mod stream
wow
hyep

>mod stream
Prepare for shittery

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So I started playing again after fucking years, loving the overhauled skills, but am i a scumbag for using a dodge build?

Convert me to alternative paths of hilarious destruction, /pdg/

overkill is using big lobby, start the bets on how many crashes

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>start stream
>all these fucking meme masks

>>152251676
>Everything going perfectly fine
>Suddenly that one hero cloaker who downs everyone in 10 seconds

>>152253552
Not a single good mask, holy fuck

>>152253407
>but am i a scumbag for using a dodge build?
Only if you're wearing a BV.

The meta was always suit dodge, suit grinder, or ICTV.

If you want to go the armour route, grab an ICTV and maybe Frenzerker Aced and go ham.

>>152253552
>those overkill niggas that are infamy VI or XII
They must be better than all of those XXV-25, I can feel it.

>>152253552
Where did they even find so many people?

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>>152253742
*XXV-100
fuck me

>>152253667
Thanks senpai.

Yeah I use suit dodge, kinda funny when you're in a fucking two-piece and have more suitability than pubbies using ICTV and miniguns and shit. I might give frenzerker a try, didn't think it was viable desu.

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>>152253870
>someone saved my oc

>>152250549
So play other heists then. It's time to start making your own choices, buddy.

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>>152253552

>>152250549
There are 25 infamy levels and 400+ achievements.

So much shit to do and you decide to just spend all your time and energy on the grind. That's the easiest way of burning yourself out on a game and never having fun.

Take your time, do other shit. You'll finish XXV-100 eventually. The question is what you'll do in the meantime. This isn't Spring Break, you don't have a reason to ECM rush SR DW non-stop.

>stattrak

stop

>crew downed: 65

>>152257524
>Houston players are good at stealth
This chart was never good.

How's the stream?

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Are there any good sights in this game?
For some reason whenever I use anything but the default sight I feel like I shoot worse; it's harder to aim.
Is it just me?

>>152224072
wait, there isn't?

>>152260937
Personally I can't live without the Speculator Sight.

Everything else blocks the sides of the screen or the zoom makes it hard to aim. This is also why I hate the iron sights on the FAMAS

can someone tell me how the fuck the headshot damage multiplier on deathwish work?
are they different for every unit?

>>152257524
eh/10

HEY YOU, GET ON YOUR FEET

update when

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>>152265201
never

Crimefest when, i need those halved prices

>>152265995
DELETE THIS

>>152266330
Hair's too short to be /pdg/-tan.

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Literally perfection

>>152193471
fucking this
why do faggots think that the 4 default characters in pd2 are the original crew

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>>152253552
>all those Overkill_shitters

>14 peoples without c4 or saw for the objectives, being forced to wait for the drills like fools,
>host is using a plainsrider bow /china puff loadout,
>devs are accidentally killing each others with the RPG,

tightest crew ever/10

If I wanted to put together a build that's specialized at completing objectives rather than killing cops (since my aim is fucking awful) what are some must-have skills for it?

>>152271916
Drills/C4/Saw/ECM

>>152273114
So something like this, assuming a CTV and cover is enough to keep me from dying?
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACEFl:ejkLNQr:tCefHKl:gaBCDfJl:ibcdea:::

>>152271916
Why not just use shotguns?

>>152273403
I do on my other build, but sometimes I like to be the guy who actually gets shit done. Specifically when pubbing.

Anyone knows at what exact day and hour the safe drop resets?

>>152273287
Well, you would just roll with suit or whatever instead so you'd be fast if you've got people protecting your ass

>>152276623
I guess I could bust out a rogue or crook deck for that build.

>>152274506
I've heard that it's one week after your last drop, but I don't know if that's true or not.

>>152270069
Chains is not the OG either, don't care, he's better.
Old Hox a shit.

>>152254385
>>152254621
You slightly misunderstand anons. I'm not grinding rats currently and I havnt played a game of it in months, I've just had the game since launch and the thought of even playing that job hurts, just because of the first day.

>7 bags?

>>152271916
insider skill.

>>152279530
>only 7 bags
>he hasn't done Kiss the Chef
Oh you sweet summer child.

>>152248423
>patchett used to be a secondary car4
>it's now a secondary AMCAR
literally.

Saw Massacre Aced any good?
Is it ever possible for the saw to be passable?

>>152279950
>patchett used to be a secondary car4
That was the Compact-5.

The best thing about playing Dragan is no cunt steals your character

>>152280005
It's shit, you really need to get every single saw skill, maybe play with Jiro or Sydney perk decks.
And for the price of playing at low hp to do any real damage, you get be.
Flash banged,
Tazed
Cloacked
dazed by gun buts
sawing through shields is stupid HE rounds and shock and awe both do that job better.
Saw doesn't even benefit from any melee skills.

>>152280775
AND have no ammo and no ammo pickups!

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>yfw you realize the boat on Birth of the sky can actually hold bags in it,

Too bad the ladder is worth shit.

>>152286039
>cheating with extra bags
>can't go down ladders
>VH
anon pls

What are some good ARs I left well before the re balancing of everything it all just seems weird to me now. car-4 still king?

>>152287374
no,all guns are good now

>>152287374
M308 (Full-auto mod)

>>152287549
Really?
How the hell did they manage that?

>>152287585
Cheers.

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>>152287374
AK 7.62 or M308

You can forget about all the 40 damage rifles, their accuracy suck balls.

>>152287985
gave basically everything a shit zillion ammo
also weapon mods now do almost nothing for the most part, base stats are far more important

>>152248078
>tfw m4 is gunfu
>tfw it's good and fun to use

>>152280750
dragan is my favorite heister, im always surprised when i join a lobby and someone took him from me

>>152287985
All guns are the same shit now, that's how.

אוי ויי , אתה הגויים רעים ! קנו התוכן להורדה שלנו ! אנחנו נמצאים במרחק של סטודיו עצמאי קטן ואנחנו צריכים השקלים שלך ; )

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>>152291487
Alright I chuckled
Nice one

is this game good again?

>>152253552
>some overkill fuckhead stole my mask design
guess i better make a new one

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More toys when?

>>152294763
>rc tank deployable
>benefits from/is an addition to the turret skills
>manually driven but automatically targets enemies

>>152295059
>AT mine "throwable"
>actual 30mm APC cannon primary weapon
>LAW secondary weapon
>SABOT (raycast, +damage, -explosion radius) and HEAT (-damage, +explosion radius), and Frag (slower, -damage, -explosion radius, +max ammo, +ammo pickup) rounds for rocket launcher based weapons

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>>152206582
>>152217921
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Wasn't Even There (i_wasnt_even_there)
- Situation Normal (slakt_3)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

>>152296536
Piss off

>>152249563
suppressor skills and acc boost,
72 acc 100 stab

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>>152257524
>sokol players
>gay

bitch you guessed it

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>"i'm going to the vantage point"

>>152300817
The only good vantage point is the one in Rats day 3 where you can play LMG sniper with a bipod.
Provided ally name tags don't get in the way.

>>152300817
>>152301205
The only good Vantage Points are:
- H&T
- Rats Day 1 (Day 3's is stupid)
Because ziplining is fun and they're not that bad of a spot to climb to in an assault. They just suck as sniper perches.

Jew Store's is okay but once the assault's going, you ain't comin' up or down there without getting downed.

>>152301514
Okay I take that back about the Rats Day 1 Vantage Point being "not bad".

I just think it's a great zipline, like the Dockyard one.

>>152301205
>LMG sniper with a bipod
if you enjoy every single cop in the entire map instantly snapping onto you and shredding you with laser accuracy sure

can someone suggest a good build for a shitter who just reinstalled this?

>>152304454
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACEFGIKl:eGHJL:gl:fGhIL:ibcdea:pM8:::
be an unkillable asshole by regenning 9% of your max hp every 5 seconds with a roughly 50/50 shot to ignore getting downed, and even if you do get downed, if you kill someone you get back up

>>152305109
cloacker!!

>>152305109
thanks friendo

/pdg/ I'm going to be cancer tonight. recommend me a weapon to use while using the kawaii mask.

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>>152306202
This, or a Bronco .44

>join a first world bank
>host says STEALTH DUDE TAKE OFF UR ARMOUR
>load in with 3 concealment and throw 3 grenades isntantly.

Since we're posting builds and I recently got back into the game, I figure I'd share mine so y'all can tell me how much of a shitter I've become.

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mlr:eACDFgIjkLr:tKlQR:ggJKL:fMnOR:ibcdea::w40-27-5-3-7-29:s49-2-10:a1

Suggestions for improvements are welcome. I'm rusty at optimization.

Unlisted:
Perk deck is Anarchist. What fuckhead idiot at Overkill thought Anarchist was a good idea, by the way?
Both the Raven and the Judge have Concealment boosts equipped, pushing me into a Detection Risk of 4 (and therefore 15% suit dodge).

>>152303173
nice

then that gives my three other teammates an easier time

Worth it to get Jack Of All Trades just to bring ammo+C4?

>>152308714
I do it only ever to bring two doctor bags and like seven first aid kits, I'm not sure if it would/ how much it would reduce shaped charges and if it's enough to fuck with actually doing objectives then I doubt one ammo bag would be worth the cost

>>152308714
jack of all trades isnt worth it unless one of the items youre bringing is sentries

anyone wana do some chill loud heists?

>>152310098
join group chat nigga, im already in game

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jesus fuck, can they do the goat simulator heist even more unfun ?

>Doing DW hoxout because I'm bored and need the money for more mail-order raifus
>Host is spamming all-caps about how he wants to do the daily and not use any keycards on Day 2
>Sure, why not
>Holy fuck why are they so bad
>I held the bottom floor of the garage for five minutes solid, alone, while being swarmed by greys and shields and tasers and shit and waiting for these retards to realize the hack was done and press the button on the computer to lower the bollards
>The entire time they're spamming shouts at me because I'm "not with the team"
>We get to Day 2, and I politely ask them to chill it with the shouting - I know what I'm doing, I never went down once
>"haha sure :)"
>In-game, endless shout spam from all three of them
>Alright, I see how it is you fucking monkeys
>Do the entire heist, save all of their asses multiple times, traded hostages twice to get them back in the game
>Every time I'm nearby or within their vision range they shout at me
>Finally, Hoxton is done downloading his porn stash
>I grab the server and make it to the stairs to the garage while they're tied up with the shields and shit I zipped past
>They catch up to me, and as soon as I hear the first shout
>Card the door
>they freeze
>"WICK - - PLEASE FOLLOW"
>You have been kicked.

Life is good, my friends.

>>152311535
Forgot to add: host was your stereotypical Wick shitter, his friends were a Clover and a Jimmy, and I was playing Jacket.

>>152311673
if wicks are all shitters, what about the other characters, like bonnie, sokol, rust and the rest?

>>152314908
Chains a best

>>152315273
that doesnt fully answer my question
what about the other 12 or so characters

>>152314908
OG PD2 crew players are usually good players, both in temper and skill
Hoxton players are meme loving fucks
Bonnie players just want to be different or are into THICC
Sokol players are undoubtedly all gay
Dragan players are chill, typically really fucking good at the game
Rust is too new for me to form an opinion yet
Clover and Sydney players 100% weaboo trash, they only play clover or sydney because they are their waifu. they're also terrible
Jiro players may be either weaboos, actual japanese players, or picked jiro for no discernible reason
Bodhi is usually the wick player if wick is taken
Jimmy players are usually cool people, skill wise they're either pretty good or pretty bad, no inbetween. expect banter
Jacket players are either fucking garbage, or will carry you the entire time. no exception. not objective focused, likes hurting other people

>>152315685
as a rust player let me say this
im generally good/above average but cannot into stelf to save my life and will not hesitate to bully shitters/kick people, but at the same time help legit new players

>>152315685
>Bodhi is usually the wick player if wick is taken
this falls apart when you realize when your preferred character is taken you get a random one
the worst day of my life was when I was forced to play as jiro

>>152315685
Guess that makes me a meme of questionable skill.

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>>152316326
you can set multiple preferred characters

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>>152316621

>>152306424
what ar is that?

>>152314908
>>152257524 has a pretty good rundown. My personal rankings are:

>Dallas
Usually a bro. Commonly good at getting people's shit together.
>Chains
Always bros, always hilarious. Typically armor-heavy, 99% of the time has a saw.
>Wolf
ANGEREY WOLFE KIL COPS
>Houston
Rare, usually quiet.
>Hoxton
Meme machines.
>Wick
Worthless garbage. I have never met a good Wick player.
>Bonnie
Dykes or chubby chasers. Moderate skill level.
>Clover
Waifu fags or GAMER GURLZ. Typically garbage.
>Dragan
See Chains.
>Jacket
Either likes the unique soundset or is really, REALLY into Hotline Miami. The latter has become more rare as the Hotline Miami hype has died off. Good at murder either way.
>Jiro
You've got a 50/50 chance of a total bro and a Wick-tier piece of garbage.
>Bohdi
The resurrection and sex change from Baldur's Gate did not go well. Bohdi players are losers and idiots.
>Jimmy
Complete wild-card. Could be unstoppable and amazing, could be an idiot who gets distracted for ten minutes by tying his own shoes.
>Sydney
The choice of waifu fags into shemales because Sydney said "sit on my dick" once. Usually bad.
>Rust
Similarly to the character, more often than not a veteran player who is tired of Overkill and bored with the game.

>>152316859
m308

>>152315273
do bad chains players exist

get the f*ck up XD

>>152317303
WICKETY WICK WICK
ON MEEE M8

What's the name of the mod that forces cheaters to play with permanent bulletspeed?
Too fucking tired of BRs with literally every single skill in the game unlocked

>>152319110
some chode joined my game with that shit when I was using dlc unlocker like fuck off guy who are you

>>152315685
dragan a best

>>152319165
If possible, allowing DLC unlockers and such obviously

>>152307801
If you're using shotguns for both weapon slots, why ace overkill? May as well use those 8 points elsewhere.

>>152308714
jack of all trades is worth it on all builds tbqh, and only costs 12 points for just the skill

for stealth builds, you can bring an armor bag/tripmines/etc. along with ecms, or for loud, maybe a small sentry with your double med bags to cover a power box for a few seconds

or hell, maybe even a plain ecm to convert a swat turret on your way towards the escape

either way, it's pretty damn valuable to have a 2nd deployable in any situation

>>152319912
Speaking of Go Home, Jack! is there anyway to rebind the swap deployable key?
I use X as my deployable but it also swaps it, so I need to select the deployable I don't want to deploy then use X to deploy the deployable I want to deploy and it gets mighty confusing and I trip over myself.

I would like to install a mod that lets me see my drill/buff/etc. timers.

What's preferred: hoxhud or pocohud?

>>152320117
Poco's floating labels lets you keep an eye on both drill positions, and, if you look at them, their status and time.
Hox's static labels will always tell you a drill's status without looking at them, but you'll need to figure out which drill is which and where it is.

Aka Poco > Hox2

>>152319493
The swap speed. Being able to have an HE Judge out in an instant when I'm suddenly faced with a skulldozer has saved my ass at least three times since I started playing again.

>>152320216
OK, I think I did something wrong. Unzipped the pocohud archive to my payday folder and now the game won't even load. Am I missing something here?

>>152321129
BLT

>>152320408
can't live without aced overkill anymore

>>152323292
I know, right? With Aced Overkill, I don't have to git gud and stop running around DW like a jackass.

>>152320408
I actually didn't know Overkill Aced had swap speed bonus.
Implications...
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mlNR:eADEFMNoR:tMnOR:gJL:fHjl:ibcdea:pM8::w61-3-6-17:s49-23-1-7-11:a1
I don't know...

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>that one guy who pretended he couldn't live without critical hits anymore

And you still fucking blew the lab, asshole.

what are body expertise breakpoints?

>>152327218
Underrated.

>>152327292
Well since body expertise is headshot multiplier * 5/8, just do:
Cop HP / (headshot multiplier) * (8/5)

And then figure out rounding and damage granularity shenanigans in-game because I'm personally not going to look that up.

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>>152327218
kek

>>152327292
The long guide has a table. I'm not going to sift through it so I'll say 50, that's enough to 1 shot body shot anything that's a shield or lighter on non-DW, with body expertise ace. 45 is enough for tan bodyshots on non-DW, and 60 is enough to 2-shot the elites on DW. 40 for 2-shot otherwise.

I legitimately just got caught in day 3 Framing Frame because I was looking at a fucking painting.
Do I kill myself now or later?

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>you can get boosts for weapons you don't have the DLCs for
thanks gage i'll do well with this total ammo boost for the plainstrider bow i won't fucking buy from you

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>>152329978
>2016
>not having an unlocker

>>152330153
why would I want this memeval shit even for free

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>>152330153
>having an unlocker
>not banned yet

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>>152330634
>thinking unlockers are bannable

>>152330958
>2016
>thinking

>>152331518
>2016
>existing

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>>152331745
>current year
>verb

>>152331745
>2016

>>152331745
>2016

>>152331861
>>152331868
don't act dumb

THIS PLACE IS CRAWLING WITH COPS

is it possible for twitch to die before the escape even becomes available on watchdogs day 1 or is that just desync because we were all sitting on top of him as he pulled in and he just died

>>152335056
I don't remember if they fixed it but his car was just behind the corner so you could rocket it and kill him

>>152335056
Should be some hardcore desync here although it should be possible in theory he dies before reaching the point.

>tfw my friend cant solo stelf jew store
>tfw he has 100 hours

is he terminal, doc

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Daily reminder the Overkill developers are composed of sane peoples who totally understand how the game work or it should be balanced and it's entirely your fault if you find some weapons or perk decks unusable.

>>152316869
>Worthless garbage. I have never met a good Wick player.
I think I'm one of the few good JW players.

>>152340006
I hate to break it to you but you're bad

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>>152337273
>it's entirely your fault if you find some weapons or perk decks unusable
That's something I've usually said in the steam forums. Now with update 100 you can really build for that specific heist if you wanted.
>>152340204
Rate my character choices over the past 2 years.

if we can move 400 pound safes the same speed we move gold or guns, how heavy are artifacts?

>>152342476
a pound

>>152342612
same

lol this game

I have maybe 80k kills with the m308. Since the 100 update I can meme build with the Predator. It's now my #3 most-kills gun. 4? w/e

Just sad. You don't even need health regen in this game. If you do you're a scrub. Sentry players are probably the worst because you can skill build yourself to be a walking turret

i really want a vietnam pack
>LMGs
m1918
stoner 63
type 99
>rifles
m1 garand
m1 carbine
mas-36
>SMGs
sterling
m12
ppsh
>pistols
hdm
nambu
>special
law
m20
y/n

>>152344128
>that many weapons in one pack

hah

>>152344128
We arleady have the sterling in game though, GL-40 is basically m79 which is also a vietnam war gun.

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>>152344128
>If you do you're a scrub

Come on, m-muh grinder build

>>152198729
This is a dumb strategy. For maps like Framing Frame, Murky Station, Election Day D2, Big Oil to a lesser extent, Big Bank and so on it's always a good idea to remove guards from rotation. Makes bag-moving quicker and smoother - and harder for your shitter friends to fuck up. Fuck you Philip every DOG DAMN time.

>>152345501
i like to leave 1-2 pagers just in case personally

you never know just who is gonna walk through that door

>>152345965
I used to be the same way until I started properly utilizing trip mines. Nine heists out of ten you can control the area with them well enough that you always know what's around the corner, at least if you choose a single bag-moving route and stick to your guns. Besides, saving pagers just in case you fuck up is planning to fail and then pop it for damage control - in my opinion, it's just smarter to set yourself up for winning by killing that guard and removing him from rotation entirely.

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Post most used mask
Rate most used masks

I rate mine 6/10 stole the idea from /pdg/

>>152346297
but for elephant heists, killing 3 or 4 guards (cant remember) triggers an inspector

>>152307801
Fucken retarded build senpai

>>152346515
In Framing Frame day 3 there are 6 guards who patrol. If you kill four, you have two left. At that point a third shows up, patrols the entire house then bugs out completely, leaving you with two guards again - those two are easy as shit to track by placing tripmines and spycams right, and after that it's just a matter of moving bags.

In day 1 it's even easier, because the guy who arrives when you kill for is mostly content to dick around outside the building where he's always predictable and in plain view.

As for Election day, that one I'll give you - it's really only worth it to kill three guards, because if you kill a fourth then the backup shows up and you go even anyway. As to whether or not he fucks off after 10 minutes like in FF I don't remember/I've never tested.

>>152346475
i just use wicks shades on sokol, dont want hude that qt face. plus i prefer stelf, wearing a mask that sticks out doesnt make sense thematically

>>152346707
>stelf
Can't spell stealth?

>>152346794
stealph? i can type stalvv just fine

>not knowing ancient memes

>>152346909
it's called soft

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>>152346794

Best stelf soundtrack?

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NOW PUT YOUR CUFFS ON BITCH

>>152316869
>chubby chasers
The best thing about Bonnie is that she is *not* your fucking waifu. She's a big, crass, northern lass, like some kind of violent career criminal or something.

Plus her civ shouts and pager responses are gold.

songs you play when you heist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeCEkcvT_XQ

also what are the new break points for accuracy and stability?

>>152349947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HA-tMN1wE

>also what are the new break points for accuracy and stability?
100/100 or go home

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>>152346475
I've never seen anybody with my unique mask.

Don't steal or I'll nut in your eye

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>>152351123
>r9k tripfags in my /pdg/

>>152348963
do you think she has a big, crass, and northern lass pussy?

>>152351323
puu sh/qHvtl/084e352b4f.mp3

underbarrel weapons when

I need more shit to hang off my gun

>>152351123
Golly. LBV, Thanatos and fucking Faks ! It must be Hanukah.

I like the falcon but really locking all its mods through dlc achievements you can't solo fucking thanks overkill.

>>152353406
>not using gewehr over falcon
Find some mates?

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>>152353406
give your steam id, get help from professionals, you know the drill.

>>152353406
Which ones you need? If >>152355860 is up then I'm down too, from there we just need 1 dickhead

Also, Entrapment + It Takes Two To Tango + Sweet Sixteen + Don't Bring The Heat are all pretty easy to solo. Takes Two needs a lot of luck though.

>>152353406

>>152355860
>>152356120
I'l be the extra dickhead if you guys are up for doing funding fathers.

>>152346680
He does fuck off but I'm pretty he comes back periodically so it's a 50/50 toss on whether you think 4 guards is worth killing.

DARASU

ISSHONI KOI

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I can't wait for @OVERKILL_TM to release #Payday2 #TheBigScam for #XboxOne and #PS4 on October 11, 2016!!

>>152363284
>consoles getting exclusive shit
EVERY. GODDAMN. TIME.

>>152363697
>exclusive shit
They are going 485 days with no updates.

It's not exclusive shit, they're paying $49.99 to rebuy the console version with the past year and a half's content.

>>152363284
>>152363697
how did payday ever make it to console?

>>152364405
The nose smelled the profits, and they went for it.

>>152364405
You could do it poorly by just taking existing code and then twiddling paths, special values, and library includes and then pointing your compiler to target the console platforms.

And then you spend 3 years debugging bugs that you wouldn't have noticed otherwise in the PC version, and shit that your poor understanding of computers and the console architectures that make the code not work properly.

Should I just wait for payday 3?
also any speculation if payday 3 will have
better heists
better stealth
better ai
LESS FUCKING DLC FUCK YOU
kawai hiester as pre order bonus possibly.

>>152317194
GeneralMcBadass

>>152364405
It's really odd that offshore gambling was a permanent thing on console before it was on PC.

>>152365760
payday 3 will never come out, this is tf2 level milking.

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>>152365760
Payday 3 is a meme, it will never come just like safehouse customization.

>>152365760
Given that Payday 2 support is officially extended to end of 2017, it's not coming anytime soon.

why did they add micro transactions weren't they making enough from the dlc? and all the merch?

>>152367692
>enough
No such thing, goy.

>>152367692
Almir's Update 100 post said "Oh we did it for the sake of the community because we needed the money, We ain't apologisin' for shit".

>>152366405
I think it has something to do with the way microsoft and sony patch.
consoles apparently take ages to approve patches unlike steam where updates seem to be done weekly.
They probably just enabled it so they didn't have to do burn your cash on this shitty cash dump mechanic events via going through sony or microsoft.

>>152367979
>Oh we did it for the sake of the community because we needed the money, We ain't apologisin' for shit"

I used to like overkill, I could deal with the bugs, the shitty stealth and the fact a lot of the dlc was over priced. Because I genuinely enjoyed payday and thought the developers were pretty cool dudes. but fuck what a waste of time and money for everyone.

>>152367979
Almir is our friend. He seeks to liberate us from the material wealth that burdens us.

Hey guys I'm looking to spice up my payday experience anyone recommend any mods?

>>152368491
Uninstall.exe really makes the Payday 2 experience a lot more refreshing and fun.

>>152368767
What game could I play instead?
I could try playing the first game but I don't think any one still plays it