Etrian Odyssey General

playing IV

I started with a party of
Dancer - Landsknecht - Nightseeker
Medic - Sniper

I've hit 22 now and rested to switch around some points.

I got some questions:

Do binds count as status ailments for the NS passive ?

DMG wise I've been doing ok-ish till now. Dancer - Landsknecht with links and chasing do good job on FOEs.
The NS is giving me some trouble. The throws barely if ever work, I've resorted to dual wielding status inducing weapons and then once it gets some ailments going it shits out dmg, but otherwise it's trailing behind the Dancer/Sniper. Do NS bloom later on more ?

I've been using my Sniper for binds till now and it worked pretty well. Got some more luck getting binds in than ailments, but once the binds are on it's missing a bit. I'm then only autoattacking and hoping for crits (which do happen quite often tho). Can I split up the points between binds/atk skills or should I just focus one ? I'm afraid if I go to the dmg route my party will lack any kind of control in form of binds/ailments and just being about dmg could fuck me up later.

Also whats the best way to grind money early on ? I never find myself having enough to buy the new stuff I unlock.

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>fighting an FOE
>attack uses lightning damage sound effect and animations
>lightning wall doesn't block it
Why is this allowed?

>>152150995
Yes.
It takes time to build him to be useful and is based on LUC so if his low on that it will take a while to inflict stuff with a NS.
You can go full attack, you'll be fine.
No clue. Invest in some gather skills

>>152150225

>cia is still there

It's still summer for spoon-feeding? Good job, OP. You totally blew it.

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How do I get the chest on the north?

>>152151723
Okay.

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>>152151862
>playing the japanese version of untold 2
>why?
>not paiting the floor pink
>double why?

>>152152117
It's just a screen I grabbed from google.
>paiting the floor pink
???

>>152152117
Not him but why pink if the default floor color even in auto is green?

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Where are the mods?

>>152152383
Just ignore and report these turbo autist.

>>152152383
mods please delete untold shits

>>152152985

No, anon. You're the blight. Now get out of my comfy general.

ignore and report

what's the best way to use an Arbalist in EO3 from the back row? Not only for bosses (for which I may simply switch it to the front row for front mortar) but also for random encounters

For now I've been carrying a
P/H
N/Z/A
and my tactics has been spamming dark ether with the ninja for the meassly cost of 1tp and every turn cast meteors with the zodiac alongisde firing Armor Piercer with the arbalist and trying to get lucky with double action, but perhaps there is something better

TL;DR: how do i use arbalist on the back row?

>>152153260
Anon please. Stop this shit.
We have enough with the retarded shitposter.

Besides, the thread lasted less than 20 minutes after it hit page 10.

>>152153403
Just ignore him too. This will never go anywhere unless his autism is pleased. I can't believe we have people or someone who gets triggered because not everything is cramped in a pestabin. EO5 is the new shit and everything is in the OP for simple 1 click convenience if you need help with the game. Instead of digging in the pestabin and copy pasting. Besides, is not like is a permanent thing either.

>>152153331
Man i wish i had my r4 with him. Shit died on me years ago

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>>152152212
>>152152208
>not painting every stratum with a different color
>not painting second orange, third blue, fourth pink, fifth yellow and sixth dark green

>>152155323
>unnecessary effort just to make it (arguably) more visually pleasant

jesus christ the autism

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>>152155510

>>152155727
No arguments here

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>>152155727
anon...

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>>152155510

Mapping at all is unnecessary effort when you could just turn on automapping.

>>152155928
>mapping is unnecessary
>turn on automapping

I fucking dare you to play the games without drawing the fucking map

>>152156223
I use automap and just draw in walls, gather points and exits

>>152156475
>just draw in walls, gather points and exits

that counts are drawing the fucking map

I mean not touching the touchscreen

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>>152155928
Don't you mean turn off?
The automapping is on by default

Do Trick Samba and Chase Samba stack ? The Dancer follows up the party and the party follows up the Dancer ?

>>152157731
it does

>>152162094
>only dumb bunnies get into this box

Man, I just can't into the Untold games, anyone else with this problem?
I completed 1-4, even 5 and I can't Japanese at all.

>>152163009
I'm going to ask just to make sure, but you are playing Classic right?

Grimoires are kinda shitty but otherwise the Untold games are pretty good.

>>152163009
You are not forced to play them. But you are missing them because they are really good.

Fucking Dinogators.

>>152163009
how are untold classic expert any different from the others

>>152163009
Just play classic. It's really fun on expert.

>>152090143
Reposting.

>>152167010
I understand the autism, but not your specific autism. What doesn't feel right about your party for you?

Don't feel afraid to change it up I suppose. You should have a guild full of benchwarmers maxing out the skill that gives them passive EXP - Sea Quests also make it absurdly easy to level up new members. Took me a while before I settled on a party I felt good with too.

>>152167387
I guess it's how the portraits and my perceived personalities of them gel. And a little bit of how the classes work together, I suppose. My EOIV team feels like a family, so much that I refuse to get rid of my medic even though I unlocked Arcanist (I just subclassed him as Dancer).

But even then I had a couple team members that I booted early on.

>>152164483
Yeah, classic. Guess I'll try again.

>>152168314
Once you get subclassing you'll be able to patch up how your classes match together, though really there's nothing glaringly wrong with your party anyway except for maybe the lack of a proper tank, but even that's not unmanageable. I guess the rest just comes down to your perception of their personalities.

>>152169041
If it's any consolation, U2 is much better than U1.

>>152172118
Before what?

>>152172659
pregnancy.

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>>152172817

>>152173249
Source?

>>152177005
sauce was posted in the previous thread

>>152177005
Dogfuckdamnit not again.

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>>152177005
I'll give you the sauce if you can give me the sauce of Kupalate

Faggot who was asking about 7th Dragon last thread again, asking more stuff.

Changed party to Mage, Fighter, Knight and Healer.

>Will a Fighter's and Mage's damage output carry my team ok?

>On that note, sword or axe Fighter?

>Are Samurai better than Fighters overall?

>How similar are Knights to Protectors/Hoplites/Fortresses?

>Why is the blue haired Princess the one that gets posted all of the time? There are far better girls, like angry redhead Healer.

>>152180262
Literally doesn't matter because 7D is easy enough to beat with any team

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>>152180262

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>>152180262
Just started playing it myself
>dumb commies are the first ones to get hit by dragons

Are status builds like Dark Hunter Princesses viable for dragon killing or are they all going to be virtually immune even with Fighter support?

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>>152150225
why is Shaman Potato so slutty when Herb Potato is so pure?

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>tfw no bandana hugs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE7JK2_fRug
Is any superboss beatable in one turn?

>>152184220
I wasn't going to try today.

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>>152184312
The Fallen One

>>152184876
Retrying until assassinate lands doesn't count.

>>152185301
What if you land it in one try?

>>152184876
wow is that thing really not immune to it

>>152185402
Then you have to reproduce it.

>>152185691
Do you question the quick kills that use double action procs, too?

>>152185752
Only if their victory ratio is lower than 10%
You can't really call it cheesing a boss if you can't pull it off consistently.

>>152185861
No one said it was cheesing though, just that it was possible.
Shmemantics.

>>152188021

breed

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How do I stop this talking Whale from binding me? I've got prevent order for Grand Berry/Beryl and it's paralysis, but the leg binds on that hard hitting row/party attack are screwing me over.

Or rather how do I deal with binds in general?

If I could just stop that Ice Ripple, I'd be able to easily win.

>>152191414
Kill it before it even tries to bind you.

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>>152191414
I suppose you have a hoplite considering how much you post twintails (aka best hop)

use anti ice, nigga.

For the leg binds, bring unbind skills and/or items: EO works with cumulative resistance, so if you can tank the leg binds and heal them, you'll be less and less susceptible to them.

Oh yeah. If you have a Zodiac, Etheric charge on a turn then use hellfire, it hurts like hell.

>>152191414
>>152191703
OH YEAH and also I dunno if you have them yet, but there should be accessories that give resistance to leg binds.

Hope it works, Have fun and enjoy this marvelous series

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>>152191703
>post twintails (aka best hop)
Okay

If I retire at 30 to get the initial skill point boost, do I lose access to the veteran skills until I'm 20 again ?

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>>152191507
Kill it in less than 3 turns? Mate, I wouldn't even know how to begin doing that.

>>152191703
>>152191947
>twintails (aka best hop)
Yeah, I'm currently out of Twintails pictures though. Gotta go fill my collection later on.

So my best bet is to bring in items and skills that can unbind my party.
Use Ice protection.
Use Farmers to farm some money for leg bind protection.
I didn't know about the cumulative resistance, I just assumed it was a set chance to get binded like every other game.

It only just occurred to me, but I always seem to go on the defensive in these RPG games.
It's much more fun when the boss doesn't just get completely wiped out.

>>152192458
You do.

>>152192776
No problem, worth saying that the cumulative resistance system applies to the enemy as well.

EO has some hidden mechanics, so try to talk with all the NPCs in the bar on every floor you reach. That or just being around the community will make you aware of those quirks and you'll be dominating the system in no time

>>152192779
So lvl 40 would arguably be the better point for the first retire before 99

I have a few questions about Chain Fencer. Without relying on Sanzu, how are you supposed to proc more than 4 chains per turn? Skills like One-Two only proc one chain as well even if multiple attacks go off, right? And wouldn't this make Chain All pointless in almost all cases? Why do I need more max activations if I can't even hit the default max most of the time, after all. Unless Chain Double counts towards the activation max. Does it?

>>152193179
At the end of the third stratum, Kibagami gives you two scrolls that can level a character up to level 35 (which is pretty much the same level you have when you beat the 3rd stratum boss) so you can retire to members at that moment.
Retiring isn't really necessary for the main game, anyway. When you reach the post-game, this will make you more comfortable but then you will have more options to level up your party.

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>>152192776
>I'm currently out of Twintails pictures though
I'm surprised there are that many in the first place.

>>152193347
I haven't played the game but doesn't the Necromancer's Ghost Dance proc multiple chains? (every ghost attacks three times)

>>152193763
Turns out they still only chain once per ghost, even for Sanzu.

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>>152193019
I appreciate the help you lot have given me.

I've just gotten stuck in this groove of leaving my Gladiator dead while my Hoplite takes the brunt of all the whale's attacks.

If it wasn't for Twintails I don't think I would've made it this far, she's easily my most useful member.
Ninja and Gladiator not so much, although two Ninjas make nice vending machines.

>>152193701
For every Twintails picture, there's at least 4 of the Boblite or whatever pet name she has.

>>152193347
I still don't get the point of Chain Fencer. With a party of Fencer/Dragoon/Cestus/Warlock/Shaman, only Warlock and Shaman can use decent attacks to proc a chain. Dragoon and Cestus will have to use shitty-ass infused normal attacks to feed chains instead of using their actual good moves.

>>152193763
How would that work? Ghosts don't do stab damage, so they wouldn't proc anything. Or can ghosts have their attacks infused too?

>>152193347
Combo Cestus activates individual skills in a similar manner to Peerless Combo in the Untold games, and get extra attack chances if their bind attacks fail or they take damage(i.e. from using Giving it Everything). Their passives should be enough to get at least 3 attempts at chaining if used right.

>>152193763
Each ghost's set of attacks probably counts as one attempt to proc a chain if it's a triple attack instead of 3 attack actions, but I haven't tried that yet so I wouldn't know how it works. Having 3 ghosts out and using that IS at least 3 attempts at chaining though.

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>>152194224
Yeah my hop carried me all the game too. They're really solid all around and my favorite tank in the series.

Ninja is more of a weird support/ailment class, but ailments kinda suck in 3, iirc. You can do more shenanigans after that boss, you'll have a shitload of optons to work with

Glad is actually pretty cool but they need those options I just mentioned to reach their full potential. Hop as well gets bonkers when they get access to it

>>152194387
Oh you're right, they only chase Stab, I don't know why but I thought chains were something like Fire/Bash, Lightning/Stab, Cut/Ice.
Now I'm disappointed

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>>152194224
>For every Twintails picture, there's at least 4 of the Boblite or whatever pet name she has.
I didn't think there were that many hoplite pictures period.
This must be my only boblite. Because I ran out of twintails.

>>152194387
If you infuse Cestus, its counterattacks will trigger chains if they work like ones from previous games, Dragoon has a basic skill to draw aggro to a specific character while boosting its defense and that counter can activate up to 5 times. The question there is, can a Cestus get away with eating at least 5 attacks from an enemies(Possibly less if each counter triggers Giving It Everything, but that's not a scenario I've risked taking)

>>152194387
Didn't dragoon have one stab skill?

>>152194387
Dragoon has Bunker Cannon, so going with fire chases can get you pretty far. A Hound can feed a couple hits with Ice Peck and Finishing Arrow.
Or you could just go Chain Killer along with a Clinch+Ailment sort of deal. That along with the bonus hits from plus can ruin shit.

>>152195604
Can Chain Double proc with Chain Killer too?

Fencer/Dragoon
Shaman/Warlock/Hound

Now I feel like this party won't be all that good for chains. Do I have to replace warlock with cestus?

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>>152195040
Yeah my team is really weak right now, though I can still win. Just beat the whale after 50 turns.

Once I get Subclasses and a better knife for my Ninja I'll be able to actually have an effective party.

As it stands now, It's just Princess and Hoplite keeping everyone alive and buffed while Arbalist does all the damage.
Gladiator is okay, but nothing spectacular right now.

>>152195087
From what I've seen there isn't many, but Boblite takes up the majority of them.

>>152195887
Cestus won't proc a single Fencer chain. Not even one.
Warlock will.

>>152194387
Most attackers also have at least one element to work with though. Gun Dragoon gets Buster Cannon, though that's a 2 turn move so you'll want to set up before using it. Necromancer has elemental ghost explosions, Status Reaper has an Ice attack, Masurao has a basic skill that does Stab damage while lowering defense, while Sword God gets the Volt cut attack, and 4 swords can infuse its chasers to be chased if you want to break the game, but you probably already knew that.

>>152195887
Dragoon, Warlock and Shaman have Fire while the Hound has stab. 4 chains.
Warlock, Shaman and Hound have Ice and Dragoon has no stab attacks. 3 chains.
Cestus has only one lightning spell and no stab attacks. Shaman and Hound equails 3 chains for lightning which is pretty damn useless since the majority needs ice and fire.

Cestus is a bad choice.
Shaman's elemental buff only triggers chains out of normal attacks and out of his Oracle: Dance which can only be used every second turn.

Can Chain Killer activate multiple times? If Cestus inflicts 2 binds with One-Two and Dragoon inflicts sleep with Hypno Cannon, will that proc 3 Killer Chains or just 1?

>>152197440
Probably 3 or that skill would be completely useless.

>>152197440
Just tried binding with Chain Killer. Cestus bound both arms and legs at once, and Fencer only chained after One-Two was complete. I feel gypped.

>>152198047
>>152198110
Chain Fencer is the disappointment that keeps giving.

>>152198187
Oh well, so Chain Fencer is only usable with Sanzu.

>>152198969
The game's easy enough that you could easily get away without it, to be fair.

4 chains a turn would only equate to around 1080% damage, and at least one party member in any given party would need to use something shitty like an infused normal attack, which means you're losing damage from them not using a good move.

Granted, if Chain Double activates you're looking at better damage, but a mere 40% activation rate isn't reliable. So yeah, I guess chains need Sanzu to be reliably good.

>>152199164
For sure. I was simply just writing about efficiency.

I see the thread has been taken over by spoiled IVbabbies who want everything to be easy mode like links.

>>152199661
Yeah.
It's especially broken if you have Chain Plus and Chain All active.
Too bad the normal three turn setup doesn't allow that since the Shaman buffs are party wide. Or you sacrifice Eradication Prayer which would need some calculating which is superior.

So did anyone know whether or not Double Chain procs count towards the max chain amount?

>>152201663

It does not

>>152202405
All right, no need to bother with Chain All in boss or FOE fights then. Thanks.

Okay, I've been testing Chain Killer a bit?
Does it have some internal shit that actually increases the targeted enemy's resistance to binds and ailments?
Ever since I started using it the success chance has gone significantly down.

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Gunner's done; guess who the alts are supposed to be.

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>>152204210
Here's the last one.

Who should I do next?

So are Dancers reliable healers in EO4 or should I stop trying to be a special snowflake and get a Medic? This is my first time attempting EO4 and I've only played EO3 before it.

>>152205575
I used a Dancer as my healer all the way up until the final boss, at which point I replaced her because I needed more damage.

>>152205575
I would argue that Dancer is far superior at healing than Medic. I would also argue that Medic in general is fairly useless as a main class in 4.

>>152205923
What skills did you focus on first?

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>>152204420

bandana

>>152205923
My medic is subclassed as dancer.

My runemaster is subclassed as arcanist.

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>>152181531
>pure

>>152206062
Mileage may vary GREATLY and I'm not exactly good at EO but essentially I just did Regen Waltz up to 4 + Proficiency, then Attack Tango until Guard Tango was unlocked, then mained Refresh, Guard, and Regen until 20. Honestly I pretty much ignored all non-defensive Dancer skills and probably could have done better than that, but it still worked out fine. As soon as subclassing was unlocked, I gave her Medic sub and then slowly put points into Revive and Auto-Revive. Naturally, Quick Step, Freedom Waltz, and Healing Step also got some focus.

I've never played EO2 before and I decided to make an alchemist
I though it would be just like a Zodiac or Runemaster and auddendly when I'm about to put the skill points I see that besides the usual ranged magical attacks it has a line for palm attacks from the front row

Sounds tempting, are the palm attacks good or not worth it?

>>152206680
They're cool as fuck but unfortunately not quite as good as Generic Mage.

>>152206642
>>152206642
I did the opposite

I focused my Dancer into being a damage dealer subbed into bushi and oh god it was fearsome. I put a bit into refresh waltz because its invaluable and the rest into skills to chase attacks from allies alongside stunning with attacks. It wasn't broken, but really fun to use

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Boner

>>152206881
Cool as fuck?

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>>152204420
Red War Magus

>>152204210
I don't know who the second one is but the third is Naoto from Persona

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>>152204210

>>152206380
its the only one that fits!

Since I more or less completed all EOs, what's you guys' opinion on Persona Q?

>>152209416
My waifu.
I've only ever played Persona Q

>>152209824

Good dungeons.
Subpersonas are cool.
Underwhelming battles
dude protein lmao

How's Etrian Mystery Dungeon?

How do I turn a Beast into a decent tank?

Protector bores me

>>152210518
Give it a slutty bikini.

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>>152181531
>>152206380
because Puré in spanish

>>152210743
Im not a furry you cunt

>>152210778
Por favor, pedro, no hagas chistes tan jodidamente malos

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>>152210794

There is nothing furry about appreciating a well-toned bear in revealing beachwear.

>>152210978
My beast is the wolf, not the bear

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>>152210778

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>>152211426

You sick fuck.

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>>152211426
>using the wolf
A man of good taste here.

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>>152209824
It's a really good game, even more so if you're into the Persona 3 and 4 characters.

Pros.
>Has well built dungeons, except Inaba Pride Exhibit.
>The sub Persona system and the Skill cards are really good and allow you a lot of freedom.
>Top tier OST.
>Enemies look great.
>Great UI, basically the menus look great.
>Character interactions are great.
>Persona Fusion is done really well.
>It's pure fanservice for Persona fans.

Cons.
>Inaba Pride Exhibit.
>It's really easy to break the game, you'd have to try hard to find a way to fight that isn't OP.
>Naoto is straight up broken.
>Characters are more focused and pretty basic even for Persona characters.
>It's pure fanservice for Persona fans.
>Pathos Recorder.

>>152210268
>>152211661
Sounds good. Going to try it.

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>>152211854
Just remember to expect a ton of Senpai and friendship speeches.

Aigis is best girl, followed by Elizabeth.
Group Date Cafe is the most fun dungeon.

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>>152210778
I want to fill the potatoes with my own puré.

>>152212872
Don't worry. I like that stuff, as long as it isn't dubbed.
If it is, I'll need to undub the game first.

>>152212985
It is dubbed, don't know if there is an undub or not though.
I don't mind dubs, but they should always keep the senpai, Kuns and Chans to the Japanese script.
Nothing worse than English speaking people using senpai to address someone.

I think Aigis and Elizabeth dubbed are great, but then again I'm biased.

>>152213415
I can undub it myself, that's not going to be the problem.

Will delayed heal ever be good again?

>>152218110

It is good, they just renamed it Lingering Scent.

>>152218275
>What is Delay Herb
Lingering Scent is more of a Dancer gimmick they didn't bother balancing.

>>152218540

Yeah, and it's better than Delay Herb.

>>152218593
But it's not Lingering Scent.

>>152218664

I know it's not literally Lingering Scent, but it's better than Delay Herb in every way with no drawbacks.

>>152212872
>let's do a cross over with EO and even try to imitate the artsyle, instead just having Himukai do it to begin with

And that's why i never bothered worth PQ

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>>152222070

>>152222206
too many male characters/0

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>>152222070
But they're so CUTE

>>152222070
They still had to keep the Persona aesthetic, which is why it's a glorious broken mess that's worth playing.

If it makes you feel any better the art guy for Etrian Odyssey did design the two Zeus Personas and his battle theme was made by the EO people too.

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>>152222656

>the art guy
>the EO people

>>152222798
Mate, I've only just gotten into the series.

Persona Q and Strange Journey were the reason I even tried EO out, I don't know who does any of the art or music yet.

I just know that Zeus, Warrior Zeus and The Person Is Then Called Away To War was a homage to EO.

Teach a best

>>152223356
Teach a bitch

>>152223356
>>152223462

I have no strong feelings one way or the other regarding Teach.

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>>152224670
If regularly making doujins about minor NPCs that show up less than 5 minutes and then die isn't autism, I don't know what it.

>>152225390
Huh, i don't remember attaching a picture, the fuck

>>152225390
You're just mad you can't draw for shit

>>152225390

>less than 5 minutes

Confirmed an untold fag who refused to play the DS games.

>>152225808
>reading at a rate of 5 words per minute

The final boss in EO6 should be a giant Teach.

>>152226362
Only if it's dlc. She's gotta eat.

>>152226290

>reading fast in a game that requires immersion

Why don't you start a TAS for EO5, you shitter?

>>152226487
I'd watch it

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>>152225390

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>>152225808
die

>>152227735

No one likes you, dicky. Especially after you fed your party to the ants.

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>>152227851

>>152227851
I like Ricky.
She's daughteru material.

>>152229059

But she's like a thousand years old.

>>152229059
Daughter I'd Like to Fuck

>>152230586
>not posting the full webm

I'm not sure what the point is with subclassing.
Do you need a Rapier to use Rapier skills? It seems pretty useless if you can't.

-Ninja/Zodiac for the no SP needed spell use and general help.
-Arbalist/Gladiator for Charge and Berserker Vow.
-Princess/Monk? Not sure about this one, but passive healing+healing spells seems good.
-Gladiator/? I can't think of anything, multi hit attacks would be good though.
-Hoplite/? I got no idea, she doesn't really need any more skills.

So far I figure I'll go with these, although it'd obviously change if I don't need the weapon to use those skills.

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>>152231297

Hoplite/Ninja

Putting a point into a weapon mastery allows you to use that weapon.

>>152231297
It might seem a bit redundant, but Arbalist works as a good subclass for Gladiator. The club attacks are highly inaccurate, and benefit greatly from the accuracy skills in the branch.
Zodiac also works if you want to abuse Freezing Blow. If you wait until after third stratum, you have about a 50% chance of unlocking another great subclass, so there's that.

>>152231297
I like hoplite/ninja because you can clone yourself to both front and back rows and just defend everything.

Monk/Princess is better than Princess/Monk but princess is more kawaii.

Gladiator/Zodiac or Zodiac/Gladiator, I forget which, to charge meteor.

>>152231398
Fucking hell, that file name is killing my fucking sides.

>>152231594
Meteor is TEC based, so you'll want zodiac making use of it until you can amass about 80 skill books for a Gladiator to catch up in TEC, at which point you only issue will be TP management. And that takes fucking forever compared to most gimmick builds to set up, even zodiac won't need anywhere near as many power books for Freezing Blow to bypass Ice Star in damage(assuming you can afford to put one in the front row like I usually do with mine).

>>152231398
Guess I'll go back and rethink it now that I know I can use other weapon skills.
Just to clarify, can I use the Rapier skill if I'm holding a different weapon? Like a Mace for example.

>>152231585
I sided with Olympia so that makes me unlock Yggdroid. That one isn't subclasseable, right?
Cheers for the advice too.

>>152231594
I've already got a Ninja that uses shadows, so Hoplite/Ninja won't work.

I'm willing to forgo usefulness for more appealing visuals.

>>152232015

No, you need a Rapier for Rapier skills.

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>>152232015

>I sided with Olympia

Blunder of the century.

>>152232015
The only way you can use skills from 2 weapons at the same time is if you use a specific later class' ability to dual wield, the only exception is a Fist Mastery related exploit that treats your first armor slot as an empty hand for using fist skills with if nothing is in it. Your weapon damage affects the damage those skills do if you have a weapon in your weapon slot.

>>152232039
>>152232203
Damn, I can still work with this though.

>>152232148
I side with who ever is cutest.
You think I'm gonna side with Kujura and his nose? I stay true to my instincts.

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>>152232357

Enjoy your unfeeling, murderous robot.

And Edie is the cutest.

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>>152232148
remove ayy lmao
deep sea master race

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>>152232015

Yggdroids take a while to get useful, so most people take that class on their second run through the game. They have high str and def and really high HP though so they make okay Hoplites and fist monks, and they're immune to binds aside from the ones they get from class skills, which serve special purposes, namely TP regen and HP Cannon spam. Their primary skills take thinking to use effectively, and their bot skills aren't incredibly effective with a full party, but they can be pretty fun to mess around with when used properly.

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>>152232652
remove murderers and child killers
armoroad master race

>>152232471
The point was that it's a CUTE unfeeling Murderbot, and therefore earns my help over some dude with a sword, a Granny and a Princess none of which will even tell me their objectives.

>>152232691
I didn't think that far ahead, I just figured I'd eventually do both and so the order didn't matter.

I will take note of what you said though.

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>>152232742
>some retard and his bimbo wrangler run off into dangerous fish territory
>we dindu nothin
I bet you'll defend your city's practice of harboring illegal aliens too!

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>>152233132

As a citizen of Armoroad and an adventurer in a guild registered with the Senatus, it is my duty to act in the best interests of the city. Treason or espionage against Armoroad is unthinkable to me. I hope you like it down there at the bottom of the sea because you're certainly not welcome back on the surface with the rest of the civilized world.

>>152232878

>he doesn't want to help an imouto reunite with her oniichan

What a shitty anon.

>>152233457
I dunno, the town seems fine with letting only its most competent explorers go down there collecting shit, especially since the guildmaster and merchant firm will have a fit if anyone representing them were to die down there. Not to mention it's kind of presumptuous for a ruler who keeps both their motives and the secret to their longevity from the town to assume IT'S acting in their best interests.

>>152233976
You can still do that while siding with Derp City, you just have to be a bit more discreet about how you pull it off.

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>Armoroad fags
>Deep City fags

The White were right.

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>>152234018
>it's kind of presumptuous for a ruler who keeps both their motives and the secret to their longevity from the town to assume IT'S acting in their best interests.

You mean like a King that orders his personal assassin to indiscriminately murder anyone that strays too far into the 2nd Stratum, without warning, because it's in the best interests of the city?

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>>152234158
fuck off Etriafag

>>152234158

>he cannot survive in a world of ARMOR

Get a load of this guy.

>>152233976
I will, just in another playthrough.

They're both kinda on the same level honestly.
One is a feelingless murderbot and the other is an imouto who sends countless people to die for her own gain.

They're both killing people by causing their deaths, one of them is just a little more direct about it.

>>152232148
I did too. I want to say I regretted it, but I wouldn't have used a Shogun either due to the whole starting at lv 1 or retiring thing.

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>>152234187
You're right, they're both inhuman assholes, but that's nobility for you.

>Side A sends leagues of incompetant soldiers to their doom, and encourages foreigners to do the same in pursuit of their goal(Crusaders)
>Side B acts like Xenophobic Isolationists(Pre-Perry Japan)

>>152234248

I will if you post more cute ninja.

>>152234339

Kujura the fuccboi at least has the decency not to set up traps even when you have joined his side. And Armoroad knew nothing about a tincan swindling everyone to their death.

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>>152233132
DELETE THIS

>>152234339
>>152234445

>who sends countless people to die for her own gain.

Those people were dying because Olympia was funneling them into a murder pit on the Abbyssal King's orders; she didn't even clean the pit inbetween slaughters.

The Senatus did their best to quell the murders by limiting the number of people allowed to enter the second stratum by proving their might against Narmer. Once you've done that the Senatus asks you to find out why all the competent explorers, who should be able to handle themselves, are disapearing left and right. Once you've identified Olympia, the Senatus and Kujura immediately take action to find her and lock down the 2nd stratum. It couldn't have been handled better on the Senatus' part.

Am I supposed to go wandering around the areas behind the sealed doors in EO2U once I get the key? I've killed some dinosaur there and it unlocked an armor piece that costs three times more money than I ever had over the course of the game. Also how do I beat those magma FOEs?

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>being deep city apologists

Literally hitler

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>>152234454
I won't!

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>>152234804
You got the wrong game there.

>>152234804
>No alt portraits for all the girls wearing nothing but Necro's hoodie

Himukai pls

>EO4 gets 2 model kits

How many would we be getting for EO5?

Untold gets shit because they suck

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Things supporting Deep City will give you:
>cute fuckbots who may even wear glasses for you
Things supporting Armoroad will give you:
>retard fang who will kill everyone you love with kaishaku
armoroad not even once

>>152235425

But the Deep City has a retard murderbot that will kill everyone you love.

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>>152235425
>Armoroad
>Cute fuccboi that looks up to you
>Jew goddess

>Deep City
>Ugly cameo from a dead franchise
>Jew goddess' inferior sibling

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>>152235637

Best girl in EO3 patched that up, though.

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Most of Deep City's issues stem from that asshole tree in the first place including:
>Sinking that part of Armoroad in the first place
>Separating the Royal family, leading to the mess that results in that pact
>Advising the King, and possibly brainwashing him or erasing his memories
>Coming up with the design and orders for his Xenophobic bodyguard
>Chasing a monster across space and trapping it under its roots only to keep anyone from doing anything about it
>Blaming a group of explorers for its failures in one ending

Fuck trees.

>>152218762
The drawback is that it won't heal the full party unless you use party herb and it fills a buff slot.

>>152237040

It would take 2 turns for the healing to take effect whether you use Delay Herb or Lingering Scent and then Area Herb, but you get to have Area Herb every turn for 8 turns instead of every other turn with Delay Herb.

Taking up a buff slot is definitely a factor but it doesn't require any limbs or even for your Herbalist to be alive in order to work, as opposed to Delay Herb.

>>152234445
>but that's nobility for you
Like that other time a princess with daddy issues sent countless people to their deaths and put an end to centuries of research just to turn her daddy into a monster claiming her city would die out otherwise?

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Flat is Justice

>>152237950
>glasses Yggdroid
I'M NOT ALONE

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>>152237950
>worst himeko as top himeko

>>152237995
She is cute.

CUTE.

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>>152237681
I'd still hit it.

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>>152237995
You never have been. My main complaint about the other model is its hat.

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>Drills Princess - purple hair
>Arianna - purple hair
>Gradriel - purple hair
>Gutrune - may have had purple hair before deep ones
>Mascot Princess - blonde hair

What went wrong?

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>>152238423
Lesser royals were allowed to be a thing, and brought their recessive hair with them. I'm okay with this.

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>>152234454

Himeko is the etrian we deserve.

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>>152239082
>absent in EO5

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>>152237950
I was too lazy to make mine but because of you I finally did.

>>152241123
>all of them have pretty much the same face

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>>152241442
He seems to be an anon of exceptional taste. Expressionless faces and triangle mouths are the best.

>>152241442
That's why they're above the others.

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I'm not willing to do more than 1 game, that would take way too long.

>>152242535
That only took me 45mn.
Great taste in princesses though.

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>>152242535
It's never too long.

>>152242664
>>152242694
>45mn.
That's way too long man, I don't have that kind of attention span.

I might consider it, but my top 2 probably wouldn't change anyway.

>>152242694
>141
How do you get this when it should be a multiple of 4? What is missing?

>>152242996
>Fang shogun
There's the extra. The rest matches up. 12 EO2 classes, plus 12 EO3, plus 10 form EO4 and highlander make for 35 classes, times 4 140 portraits.
And then fang shogun

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>>152242664
>>152242694
Well I stand corrected, only Twintails remains the same.

>>152244294
>arbalist dropped 30 spots
Whew

>>152244480
She appeared about twice man, plus there is no brown Arbalist.
I'm not fond of literal redheads, only orange redheads.

I think I went into a trance halfway through.

Would a team of Chain Fencer/Cannon Dragoon/Hawk Hound/3element Warlock/Healing Shaman be able to go through the game+postgame on advanced if I play properly? I know I don't have any of the top shit like Necro with nuke ghosts, Sanzu or Cestus, but I just like the portraits for this team and think its synergy would be fun even if it's not the best or most efficient.

hi I've never played any of this but wanna try it out with one of the 10$ eshop games
Should I go with 4 or untold 1 as a complete noob?

>>152249035
4 is a game for noobs, so that's will fine as a first game

>>152249035
You can go with any of them but 4 is better.
Untold 1 is fine but not really interesting, Untold 2 is way better.

Untold is still a good game to start since Picnic and Standard mode are easier than EO4 (which is easier than Untold's expert mode)

any tips on beating elder dragon in EO3?
Can't do enough damage to kill the fucker before it all goes to shit.

>>152249035
Untold 1 is the better game by far (on Classic Expert at least) but if you're new start with 4 which is much friendlier.

So when does VFD become horribly broken? I just unlocked Rune Knight.

>>152249035
Start with 4. The quality of life changes in the Untolds make 4 rpretty hard to go back to for some beginners. 4 Is also a lot easier and gives you a better feel of what EO should be like.

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>>152253374
Once you get the skill unlock for Brave Sword
Even easier once you get Banishers and Earthquake from the third skill unlock

>>152253437
>Is also a lot easier
>gives you a better feel of what EO should be like.
Pick one and only one.

EO shouldn't be that easy, subclassing was a mistake.

>>152254104
Oh fuck off.

>>152254104
>EO shouldn't be that easy
EO3, EO4 and EO5 are that easy.
EO1 and EO2 aren't.
Sad to shatter the dream but your statement isn't true anymore.
inb4 Untold. Untold is both things at once

>>152254312
>but muh floor jump!!

>>152254104
You were a mistake

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>>152254104
>subclassing was a mistake
EOV did the opposite and is even easier.
Check mate athietists.

>>152254104
I really don't think it has anything to do with subclassing. They're just letting classes powercreep even without subbing, see shit like Imperial. Linking has also gotten stronger and easier to pull off. Encounters have gotten easier until the extremely late game. Shorter stratums means very little emphasis on team endurance, and teleporting to floors trivializes that even more.

>>152254312
3 was still a lot harder than 4. Especially without Shogun.

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>>152239308
And EOV is confirmed worst EO up to date (EMD is not a real EO game)
Coincidence? I think not.

>>152254104
not him, but I've had a better experience and more fun playing the untold games in standard difficulty than EO3

To put it in a way, the only difference between the difficulty is the amount of damage that you deal and receive, meaning that less difficulty=less grinding
To put it in perspective, I was very glad to see that when I started EOU2 classic in standard difficulty (thinking it was the same as the regular difficulty of other titles) I was gladly surprised to see that it was the first time that I didn't have to grind in the first area of the game right after starting.

Regardless, I would suggest starting with EOIV as well, its easier not mainly because of the numbers but because its harder to fuck up making a build for your characters and pretty much any party can work, which can't be said for other EO games

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>>152254486
>Shorter stratums means very little emphasis on team endurance, and teleporting to floors trivializes that even more
Just make the floors tougher and floor jumping will become a non-issue. Move the attrition from retreading old ground to the new ground you're exploring.

>>152254486
That's like saying EOV is hard without Sanzu.

>>152254643
Sure, but they've been reducing trap frequency and the number of dangerous random encounters, so it's just getting easier and easier in multiple ways.
Retreading floors is still more interesting than warping to the newest one every time anyway. It was the whole point of the labyrinth.

>>152254662
I haven't played it yet but it sounds like there's plenty of other broken combos too.

>>152254775
>Low similarity results have been hidden. Click here to display them...
Sauce?

>>152254901
>Retreading floors is still more interesting than warping to the newest one every time anyway.
I beg to disagree. It was just me praying I didn't get into that one pointless random encounter and make the trek to the corrct floor even longer.
>It was the whole point of the labyrinth
What a sad labyrinth.

III = IV > U2 > U > I > II > Story modes

>>152255329
3>1>4
I won't forgive them for making it so short

>>152255329
>4 that high
This is just shitposting

>>152255329
agree

>>152255329
But I.5 goes above I

>>152255412
IV did well with breaking the constant routine by adding side smaller dungeons

>>152250931
>EOU
>better than anything

>>152255329
U2>3=4>U1

all are amazing.

I know 4 has problems and is easy, but it's weirdly alluring and nice to the eyes. I don't know why, but it feels like a PS1 JRPG

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>>152258823
>impossibly horrible chef girl

Japan pls. This stopped being humorous decades ago.

>>152256304
they were shit and 14 more regular floors would've been better
only the boat was redeemable because you actually had to plan a little bit to use it

>>152259183

>expecting a drunk noble to know how to cook

Pleb please.

>>152259183
>expecting people with money to know shit about the world

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>>152259801

She handles herself just fine in the underground death forest. No excuses.

>>152254430
>>152254312
EO3 and 5 are still harder than 4.

>>152259369
as I said, it broke the monotony

14 more regular floor (btw: wishful thinking at its worst, more like 6 more regular floors) that were just the same isn't better

>>152259801
I'm rich as fuck nigger, fight me

>>152247038
Hello?

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>>152261463
Allo'

>>152261463
nobody can help you with strategy of a game that has come out so little ago

>>152261587
I'm not asking for strategies though, just whether or not it's a viable team. I figured enough people here would've played through the game to answer me that.

>>152260775
14 as in what was missing
the fact that it didn't come close to making up for the missing floorspace was the biggest problem

>>152261775
sadly, not enough people here have played through the game to answer you that

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>>152261560
Best Merchant. Brown is a best.

>>152261824
What if the people who have are just sleeping right now?

>>152261818
>missing floorspace
that space was used for the 5th stratum, in which you were teleported throughout all the previous dungeons, if I recall correctly

>>152261883
or masturbating to trypopphilia on /d/

what if?

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>>152261883

What if they died?

>>152262074
Those who have conquered the world tree are immortal.

>>152262235
but they never took a step outside their house

hilariously, considering EO is a game on a portable

>>152261934
not for misty ravine

>>152262339
>not playing EO in a park, taking in the sun, napping in the grass
Who gives a damn if you look like a manchild playing a 3DS in public, shit is comfy.

>>152262519
that one was bad, you get a point

>>152262547
how the fuck am I going to see the screen with all the sun?

>>152262547
>>not playing EO in a park, taking in the sun, napping in the grass
>playing your DS alone in a public space.
It's like you want to get killed anon.