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/scg/, /edg/: Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous General

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Thread #11: Gamescom NOW edition

>What is this?

Merge general of Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen

>Elite: Dangerous information pastebin. Update as needed.
http://pastebin.com/ZT9GWmaC (embed)

Gamescom info (I think?):
https://community.elitedangerous.com/eventseason16

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>Star Citizen information pastebin. Update as needed.
http://pastebin.com/UNEJYGHp (unembed)

>2.5 is PTU now btw
>Freefly for anyone willing to try soon™

SC has a gamescom Idris booth being setup. Details about their event here:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15451-Gamescom-2016-Details

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>other games
if it doesn't have a general, come on in. just don't get upset about sharing.
Here's a pastebin with games you can play while waiting for SC to be finished or for E:D to be fun:
http://pastebin.com/cugkem8w (embed)

Last thread: >>151757932 (Cross-thread)

OK people. Do not get on the hype trains. Keep low expectations to not be dissapointed, as I'm sure SCfags know this well anyway. Also, expect many of the people from many months past to come back and shitpost. Avoid the bait so that we can stay /comfy/ although you guys seem to do a good job at that already. Keep it up bruvs.
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The actual link to the previous thread

>>151895186
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Does any sort of High-Tech Systems exist near Sothis that sells High-End Fuel Scoops for the Type-7? I made the mistake of longrange hauling with a shitty scoop and now I'm stuck recharging with 18.3/s
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First for Gamescom today
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>>152019919

Newholm sells a 5A scoop.
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I'm glad these threads exist. I love you all.
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>>152019967
I bought my ship there and it had no stock for the Type-7 Yesterday
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>>152020003

You can't have two scoops, so you'd need to sell the old one first before you can buy a new one.

Or it could just be out of stock. It carries up to 5A and 6B but they're not always available.
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>>152019930
When's that sale habbenin mang?
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gamescom hype?
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>>152020143
Alright, I should camp there and the scoops.
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>>152020172
Probably starting on Friday, I dunno.
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>>152020031

What size slot did you try to buy for? iirc Sothis has no size 2 or 3 scoops so if you try to stick one in a size 2 slot they'll only have class 1 available.
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>>152020172
CIG's sales and page updates usually go up around 12:00pm pacific time.
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Chris...
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So will Braben have a seizure again?
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>>152020324
Yeah but Gamescom sales usually start on Friday before or during the event.

>>152019930
Is that an Alienware laptop?
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>>152020031
>>152020313

Newholm has been UA-bombed. No use trying there.
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>>152020259
What sale?
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I hate Prof. Palin so goddamn much.
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>>152021179
SC Gamescom sale. New ship + some of the old limited ones.
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>>152021095
fuck im logged out there :o
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>>152021256
That M50 needs to happen.
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>>152020834
Overcome with Vision. No mortal mind can withstand it's glory.
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>>152020471

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds
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>>152021546

So? You can still refuel and enter/exit the station at will. Just can't sell shit or do missions. Try Robigo instead.
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>>152021601
Can't wait for the mini reclaimer terrapin sale


[Spoiler]the reclaimer size increase hasty replaced the mini cutter with the terrapin [/spoiler]
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>>152021220
>mfw already been to the core before rngineers hit
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>>152022314

At least I'm doing 35LY laden each jump. Boring as shit though. I'm not even stopping to scan, I just honk my horn and jump.

I've thought about killing myself when I get there to save time, but then I'd LOSE MY FUCKING ENGINEER MATS THAT I'M FUCKING CARRYING FIVE THOUSAND LIGHTYEARS OUT BECAUSE WE CAN'T STORE THEM BECAUSE FUCK
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>>152022527
>I've thought about killing myself
you play E:D. do it
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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/Gamescom-Free-Fly-2016 It's here

Doesn't look like people will Free Fly with 2.5
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I was thinking zero g unsecured cockpit stuff would be nice to have. All the detritus of a single human being in a confined space for any period of time. Coffee cups, used tissues, empty bags of toffees and powerbar wrappers, fading green and white fanfold printouts of Local Security Office bounty receipts, scribbled notes of trades, dust-bunnies, doodles, Polaroid hard copies of debug camera selfies*, styrofoam trays of chef meal leftovers, Unintelligent Furry Felines, empty Feu Orange air fresheners, wax strip backing sheets, comic books (put The Fang in game), empty bottles of knockoff Lavian Brandy, odd socks, empty stim-pack blisters, slowly decaying apple cores, sachets of graphite lube, handheld video games, dogeared A-Z of The Old Worlds, unfinished scale models of FE2 ships not in ED, plushies, tools, broken bobbleheads and favourite blankets.

They'd slowly increase in number over time since leaving port at a rate depending on the number of crew and the size of the ship, and on violent manuevering, say an interdiction, they would all crash into the canopy and float around like a trash snowglobe. The repair screen in station would gain a 'Interior Valet' item and rich or fussy Commanders could buy a miniature Collection Drone that would keep the worst of it down.
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>>152022991
>people won't fly free in the PTU
Are you retarded or something? They never have
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>>152023225
I mean that 2.5 won't hit public for the Free Fly
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>>152023151
>All that shit floating around the cockpit.
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>>152023269
I can remember no instance in which CIG put out a new public version in time for a free flight.
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>>152022527

Without engineer mods I could only jump 40LY in my Exploraconda
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>>152023151
Id dig that. A while back I thought itd be interesting to have like a cockpit cat, that has a bunch of routines where it likes to laze in certain spots and path around, assuming this has gravity. Maybe one of its spot would be halfway through a virtual display and it doesnt give a shit
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>>152023151

You know a ship's life support system includes recycling for refuse, right?
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>>152019930
Derek Smart on the left hand wall
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>>152023897

This is an almost completely stripped down Asp with level 5 FSD range upgrade. Everything except PD and PP is d-ranked. I'm also carrying 15 tons of engie mats.

The real reason why though is the fact that I've filled all the other internals with fuel. I can jump around 800~ LY without stopping. Pretty sure it saves time overall.

>>152024278

>he doesn't recognise blatant dadposting
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>wake up
>still no free flight
>still cant download

fucking shit........ when will it start?
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>>152025238
Did you even read the thread?
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>>152025304
JUST woke up
still wasted

I dont know whats happening
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>>152025839
>wasted on a tuesday night
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>>152025304
please respond

what did you mean

>soon™
did you mean this?

anon, respong bleeze :D:D:DXDXD
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>>152025056

Power plants are a bit of an oddball in that the A rank of a smaller size is both lighter and higher output than the D rank of the next size up.

So really no reason not to go A rank for heat efficiency. You can just go down in size instead of rank to save mass while retaining max heat efficiency.
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>>152026173
>>152022991
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>>152026140
>>wasted on a tuesday night
the live of a Student in germany while vacation
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>>152026279
>live
its "life" sorry for that

>>152026268
>what did he mean by that
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>>152022527
>Asp
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>>152026452
bud go the fuck back to sleep and just lurk until you're sober
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will the gameplay streaming be anything new or just current version?
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>>152026619
Not sure at least for SC. My guess is that they will stream Star Marine or 2.6 but it's anyones guess at this point. I think the stream starts in an hour
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>>152026675
There's no way they're having 2.6 on the showfloor. At the Friday event, sure. But they'll stream 2.4.1 or some version of 2.5 on the booth.
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>>152026731
Streaming Star marine would be a great incentive for people to come to their booth
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>>152026580

:^)
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>>152020993
I think its MSI
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SC Gamescom stream from the boothstarting in 22 minutes plus the usual delay.
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>>152028464
fuck I feel hyped even though I only expect nothing to happen today
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>>152028464
What are they playing on the bottom window it's too small for me to see
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>>152028647
I think I saw one of the Olisar or Karea airlocks in cam 3.

>>152028629
Look at the categories in the bottom middle.
nothing will happen
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>>152028736
PLEASE BE EXCITED

I wish 4chan enabled sound webms
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Has anyone here played Everspace?
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>>152021095
Tfw just finished my 100 mil grind for the FDL just 3 days before Sothis got UA bombed.
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>>152028464
I'm sitting at work for atleast 4 more hours what is happening ?
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>>152028967
yeah, it's casual-tier and gets old pretty quickly, but it's entertaining enough for a few hours
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>>152029021
Nothing important. Just Lando and some streamers they flew in sperging around at the booth.
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Do I need higher rank with the Empire to get access to their good stuff in high-tech systems?

Every time I roll into a high-tech economy (there are surprisingly few) I can't find ANYTHING to replace my 1G multicannons. I refuse to believe there isn''t anything better so the game is holding out on me

what do
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>>152029275
blow yourself out an airlock, obviously
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halp my speakers broken

pls post whats happen
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I want to fuck CMDR Rhea
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>>152029883
Raffle time
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>>152028990
>tfw just finished my Corvette grind the day before Sothis got UA bombed

A rated and everything, 150M to spare
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>>152026580
>exploring in a conda

never again
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it's gonna be nothing isn't it
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>>152030345
Well we always have the Friday Party stream
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3gOrS251oQ
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Who UA bombed the dads? Lots of 10/10 butthurt going around.
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>>152031793
>dads UA bombed

what?
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How soul crushing is the grind for Corvette and what's the best way to go about it? Just doing fed missions over and over?
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>streamer spent an hour doing fuck all in the hangar
Great stream CIG.
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>>152032157
>implying you'll have a soul at the end

Your soul gets replaced with VISION, anon.
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>>152032223
Alright, but where do I go for the soul-to-VISION transplant?
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>I didn't win the raffle.

>>152032181
Are they going to have any CIG staff on later maby some people from the German studio?
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>>152032462
sothis
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>>152030345
They probably would have shown better stuff during the week but now that they have that gamescom party they will keep the best stuff for that 100 %
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>>152032585
Probably not. 1,5 hours now and they've only shown the hangar so far. Even more disappointing than I expected.
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>>152031765

anyone else expecting the stream to be raided by people asking fdev to unfuck the engineers?
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how big is your spoiler?
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>>152029963
Hows the corvette fly compared to an annie? I despise driving the annie on so many levels from supercruise to docking.
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>>152034713
more agile and a whole lot less drifting

mine has DD3 and even Eagles have a hard time escaping my arc of fire. The two huge hardpoint placements are GOAT, especially for kinetics
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>>152034713
Try the Cutter, It will make you love your annie
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being interdicted and immediately shot down for 4t of engie commodities is so fun and interesting
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>>152034785
Hhhhnnggg. Welp time to grind for one after i grind for ranks. Lt commander now so this wont be too long.
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>>152034917
fed grind is horrible right now
I would suggest waiting for a better opportunity
I feel that passenger update will add additional rank exploits
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>>152034859
I already want to go back to the fas. I keep looking at how the fas is almost perfect for me and maybe i should buy horizons then quickly shake the vision overcomming me.

If hope sc pans out that fidelity keeps trying to get me throw money at it as well.
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>>152035073
implying roberts wont sell rovers for 50$ a pop

they are selling the argo for 30 and its barely a scooter in the sc universe
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How do I free fly if I already have an account? This website is awful to navigate...
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>>152035723
Its worth noting, I input the code and clicked the download now. And I still got nothing.
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>>152029904
Is Rhea a tranny?
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>>152035913
Isnt everything this website touches a trannie? Its the midas touch. Only shittier
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>>152033664
You are signed in and entered GAMESCOM2016 as your coupon code or whatever right?
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>>152036741
Well Rhea is from reddit, not 4chan.
It's just that I heard her voice before and it sounds very off for a female, on top of that she got turbo triggered when I made two joke posts about trannies, which leads me to think she might be one.

I don't have anything against trannies myself, I'm just really curious about it and would like to know.
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>>152036797
Her Twitch says she has some vocal cord disability. Could just be a ruse though.
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>>152036797

This sounds a bit weird... On his/her about me area of the stream.


>I will also mention that I have vocal cord disability, and I can't speak loud. I have to run microphone with amplification, which causes a lot of noise and stuff. Please do provide feedback if you can't hear me or can't understand and I can try to fix it somehow.
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>>152037006
that sounds like complete bullshit
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>>152037006
>>152037004
Well I guess that would explain it, if not who cares. I mean it sounds kinda like bull but I've seen worse shit so I'll believe it.
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>>152037006
>>152037004
>>152036797
Probably a dude.

Pic related, it's his hand.
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>>152037131
Yo what the fuck, my fingers are way girlier than that.

Confirmed tranny.
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>>152035913

Yes.
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>Star Marine not greyed out in the Stream build
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SHARE THE ARTBOOK
>SHARE THE ARTBOOK
SHARE THE ARTBOOK
>SHARE THE ARTBOOK
SHARE THE ARTBOOK
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>>152037497
I knew it!
But do you have any confirmation/proof?
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>>152037634
No.
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>>152037634

the website http://rhea-ayase.eu had a picture of him, it was removed now,trying to look like a chick and all but it wasn't even passable.
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>>152019930
>high spec computers running the game on a lan
>a lan

kek
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>>152037958
Why wouldn't you run it on a LAN
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>>152037951
I believe you anon, sounds convincing enough to me.
You just confirmed what I had though.
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>>152037958
Is this your first convention, anon? Do you know what happens when 10000 people try to access the same internet connection? Do you really think any other dev will not make sure the game runs as good as possible? Am I being baited?
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>>152031765
Looks cool. Having two fighters out in a Corvette should make things interesting.
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>>152038103
seems like pretty obvious bait to me
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>>152038035
>>152038103

I wonder how long per session the LAN version can go before it goes tits up
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>>152037951
post if you have it
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IT'S NOTHING

http://www.pcgamesn.com/elite-dangerous/elite-dangerous-aliens-patch-22
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So what have they shown for Gamescom?

Anything yet? I haven't been keeping up with the convention.
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>>152038284

>we saw what looked like a massive, green Cylon Basestar
>nothing

you can fuck right off mate.
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>>152038284
>massive green Cylon Basestar
ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWERS CONFIRMED
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>>152038323
I don't think Star Citizen is going to show off anything new today
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>>152038323
nothing
>>152037519
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>>152038237
This is all I have.
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So does this general have any worthwhile content, or is it just circlejerking from thirsty ass dads in denial?
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>>152038449
'no'

ED is basically "woe is me, muh grind"

and SC is basically "Oh man, if this game comes out-" theory shit
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>>152038419
Wew lad. That's a man.
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>>152038237
>>152038057

I didn't save the picture, I found this out almost a year ago, the voice had me puzzled and after checking the website I was sure of it. I tried to find the picture again a few months ago when I found out he was dating one of the subreddit's admins but it was changed to what it is now.
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>>152038449
no, we wait for worthwhile content. Otherwise we help people get into games/avoid certain games. We merged two generals that couldn't survive on their own.
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>>152038237
Found something else.
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>>152038498
>and SC is basically "Oh man, if this game comes out-" theory shit
>>152038570
>no, we wait for worthwhile content. Otherwise we help people get into games/avoid certain games. We merged two generals that couldn't survive on their own.

Ok, so it's thirsty ass space dads, gotcha broski. Good luck ;)
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>>152038419
>>152038650
the fact that he is trying to be elusive in it with the covering, and not showing face with the strange voice basically proves it. No real girl streamer hesitates to to prove something like being a girl - if it's natural there's no purpose in being secretive about it.

>>152038704
thanks
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>>152038763
There's like a shitload of "unboxing" photos with just his legs showing, but that's it.

It's a man.
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>>152038857
>>152038763
I fucking knew it!
You know I think my tranny-dar is getting better, I have such an easy time spotting them nowadays. But Rhea had me puzzled a bit still.
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want.
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Man, it's been a few months since I last played E:D, reading this thread makes me miss it.
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>>152038570

>Otherwise we help people get into games/avoid certain games.

what is pathetic about you guys is that ED, as flawed as it is, actually EXISTS and SC will never even go public or approach ED's level of cohesion. They've already wasted what $122 million on that shit and its in barely playable phase. That FPS stuff they're promising? That will never come out.
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>>152039352
Come on anon, you can do better than that.
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>>152039352
k

>>152039298
What is this and where can I get it?
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>>152039352
Is that it?
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>>152038284
> There’s going to be a luxury liner, for example, which is designed to carry individuals from one side of space to another. Using the tech that powers drones, you can partner with a fighter to protect your passengers from whatever evil (or well-deserved bounty) they’re escaping, or let the AI take care of any passing pirates for you.
I wonder if this means a new passenger ship (maybe Beluga) is in (since Orca can't carry fighters) or if that website just has no idea what it's on about.
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>>152039493

From ED Artbook

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6KEY4QJTmolV3Zid1F2bzRmZ3M/view?usp=sharing
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So Chris Roberts and some other lead is showing off a preview build in a press booth so we should expect new articles to be written up about it.
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>>152039643
He is showing of the stuff they will reveal on friday to the press now.
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>>152039643
Which we'll likely be seeing Friday.
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>>152039643
They'll be NDA'd until after the stream on Friday, so someone would need to publish early to find out anything before then
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>>152035402
Im actually fine with that. Wont buy it, or cosmetics. Only ever did that for one game and never again.

Now if they go back and say you can only buy ships with real money after launch that would be sad and probpy the end of space games for me, especially after the dad dissapointment of korean grindfest
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>>152039643
Those writers are NDA'ed until friday. They only let them see early so that they can write and edit their articles before its announced.
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>>152039298
Thats purty. Think it has a jump drive or is it cqc bait?
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>>152039519
Its ftroop. You know the answer.
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>>152039519
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>>152040034

Ship launched like the Condor.
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who this random deutsch?
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>>152039756
Would buying ships with real money be that different to buying credits with real money? They've already confirmed that multiple times.
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This artbook is so comfy.
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>>152040394
Can you buy credits with money, after launch?
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>>152040942
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>>152040957
only a limited amount per month
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>>152039643
why is he getting all this press attention when the game is far from complete?
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>>152041078
It is pretty nice. Cheers to the anon who posted it.
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>>152041225
The game gets its funded through crowd funding. The more people talk about it the more funding go's up.
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>>152029963
So that's what, 5 rebuys?
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>>152040957
Yeah, they've confirmed it multiple times. Can't buy ships, can buy credits. I can't see the difference.
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>>152041476
There isn't a difference
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>>152041476
>>152041504
I only kind of follow SC but would that mean no LTI?
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>>152041225
because it's highly ambitious and purely crowdfunded. People think everything they've done is a scam so I guess proving it isn't is a factor too. Though there's nothing wrong with showing progress to the press t bh
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I wish free flight had been ships I actually wanted to fly.
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>>152041504
The credit cap is so low you can't even buy a complete loadout of guns for a small ship.

If it takes you 4 months to buy a fighter, theres a massive difference. Theres also a cap on how many credits you can have at any time.
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>the goyim aren't spending enough money

oy vey every dollar is used as funding!
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So what separates us from from the dads?
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>>152042367
nice try, dad.
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>>152042367
Dads are not virgins
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>>152042367
About 30-40 years
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>>152041679
>free flight

when?
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>>152042924
Now
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>>152019930
>Woke up and suddenly bunch of new games from gamescom
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>>152042972
where
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>>152043154
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/Gamescom-Free-Fly-2016
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>>152043249
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/Gamescom-Free-Fly-2016

thank you my friend
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>>152038385
>>we saw what looked like a massive, green Cylon Basestar
Can't wait till these start spawning in regular CZs cause ED doesn't check faction properly when it spawns capships.
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>>152038284
The drones sound nice. I've often wished SC would do somthing like that instead of putting world war two style turrets on everything.
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>SC livestream is giving away ships and packages

Fucking hell I have to use that website now.
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>>152043590
Can't wait for thargoids to be buggy beyond belief, likely spawning with no guns or some shit.
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>>152043934
and their twitter.

I haven't won anything yet sadly
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>>152043703
>The drones sound nice.
I think you can pick whether to have an AI pilot it or take it yourself. I don't really trust the AI to take care of my main ship though.

>world war two style turrets on everything.
How easy is it to actually hit shit from one of those turrets?
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>>152043993
Which one? The RobertsSpaceInd one?
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>>152044049
>How easy

It's not. Bomber formations in World War 2 flew with hundreds of planes for two reasons. One to carpet bomb the ever living hell out of massive area and two, to provide cover for each other. Planes hitting each other was difficult as hell. No video game accurately represents how difficult it is to actually hit an enemy plane. B17 formations tried to use sheer volume of bullets to protect themselves from interceptors.
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>>152043983
At least if they spawn with bugged rapid-fire, class-4 plasma accelerators or something FDev can just be like "that's Thargoids for ya"

I worry more that the total involvement of Thargoids will be a "Thargoid Signal Source" that you have to drop into to fight Thargoids. Can't have any gameplay come to the player after all.
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I wonder what they're trying to achieve with that stream. 4 hours in, 1,5-2 of them wasted on fucking around in the hangar, and they only showed arccorp and a bit of AC.
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>>152044049
impossible almost
total wasted space

Im not a fan of manned turrets on small ships
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>>152043993
pls link
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeZtqoydXpc&ab_channel=DualUniverse
The recent interview that chris gave seems more plausible now.
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>>152044190
I know it was hard in WW2, I just wondered if SC is basically the same.
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>>152044469
>chris interview
>dual universe video

???
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>>152044568
My bad, it sounded like you were asking about them in real life.
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>>152044574
he mentioned having hundreds of ships together in the same instant recently.
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>>152044469
this has been around for years, you just hadn't noticed
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>>152044663
No he didn't, reddit.
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>>152044663
Oh, I get it now. Can you link the Robert's one?
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>>152044825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvule1cD_zk
It's in there somewhere can't remember the time.
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>>152044663
hundreds of people, not exactly ships
he meant that you wouldn't get the information of people inside a ship like an idris, only the exterior info like turret positions when you're outside the idris.
this means that you can have multiple capital ships in the same space, along with other multicrew ships as well, just not receiving the data of what's inside.
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>>152044764
He said we could get hundreds of people, and presumably many ships as well.
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>Million mile high club


This is silly.
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>>152045119
He said thousands.

Guess what isn't going to happen
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>>152045257
I don't think he said instance he said area
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>>152044342
Supposedly aft mounted turrets were actually useful, which is Russia kept adding them to planes even after everyone else ditched turrets.

But, of course, that's the one spot CIG never puts a turret at. They even moved freelancer's rear turret further away from aft in the rework so it would have more a blind spot.
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>>152045257
I assume he's full of shit too. I wait until they prove that it's possible, but that's what he said. Until they implement this sort of system I will withhold calling it true or false since we currently have no way of proving either way. Not the original anon you replied to
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>>152045353
see
>>152044993
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>>152045369
>so it would have more of a blind spot

I'm starting to think bubble turrets should be replaced with remote control turrets. In their current state they're useless on ships like the connie. I recall someone rescuing me while I was stranded at the shipping hub. Hopped in their connie and was immediately intercepted by other players and battle ensued. Hopped into the turret and I was basically useless because of the high speed turning that kept enemies out of my sights 100% of the time.
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>>152041447
I bought my vette in LYR space so it was 155M instead of 190M

fully A rate without plating we're talking 21M rebuy

I don't plan on doing PVP with it yet, that's what my DBS is for
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>>152040394
If they want to sell ships for real money after launch, i dont care. I can exert self control and not pay real money for ships.

If thats the only way to get new ships after launch? Then thats pretty much it for space games. Other devs will follow suit without a doubt.

To your point, no difference.
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>>152045760
turrets are just mounting points with a turret attached, in the same way a gimbal puck is. You'll be able to swap them out for anything that matches the size and has an adaptor.
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>>152045953
Still only 7 rebuys.
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>>152046354
I don't plan on getting killed, I'm just erasing NPCs while listening to Queen
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>>152046262
>Swap them out

That's all good and dandy, but just because you can swap them out doesn't mean their fundamental flaw goes away. Unless you're mentioning that to say swapping them out for remote controlled turrets could be possible thanks to this.
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>>152046435
Thats exactly what I'm telling you

Remote controlled my a gunner station, fixed / gimbal slaved to pilot control.. whatever.
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What's the best location to grind Empire Rank?
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So, in Star Citizen, I have to actually pay real money to get a ship?
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>>152046523
But, as I said that doesn't change the fundamental flaw of the bubble turrets.
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>>152046957
Its down to pilot skill as well, you know.
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>>152046946
Right now. Yeah. At release you just buy it with credits.
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>>152046946
In the alpha, yes. That's how they make their crowdfunded money. When the game releases in 3 or so years they will no longer sell ships. You can buy a game package to get started or wait for a free fly like this week.
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>>152046946
After release you'll just buy the game and work for it, or buy credits, although those will be limited.
But currently you support the game development by buying ships

we get this every thread huh?
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>>152047058
Yes and no. If larger ships are just going to focus on jousting on a single plane, the gunners are never going to get a chance to even aim at targets. Which is what I experienced.
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>>152047205
it's ok - new people will be interested. It's up to us to answer with honesty and give what info we can.
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>>152047290
It should be in the OP, a FAQ.
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>>152047205
well what do you expect? I'm sure a lot of people are interested only because of the ship design, so they look up the ships on the website and half the things shown have price tags.
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>>152047378
>Implying even a small amount of the idiots that post stupid things even consider looking at OP links
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>>152047805
>asking questions about a game in its thread
>stupid

who pissed in your cheerios. I, and I assume others here, have no issue answering questions people have.
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>>152047285
>If larger ships fly like retards and perform the worst kind of dogfighting manouver, they're going to have a hard time

really fires the synapses
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>>152048276
>Fly like retards

He wasn't flying like a retard. He was flying like any other ship. Keeping the enemy in his gun's sights.
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>>152048326
>Jousting
>Not flying like a retard

Pick one, friend
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>>152048220
You're an idiot. His post doesn't say a god damned thing about you or other people willing to answer questions, only that there's no point in putting that in the OP because they wouldn't read it anyways. Fucking victim complex baby.
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>>152048496
We were answering question for a newfag and he considered that "stupid things". Fuck off, samefag.
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>>152048403
Why are you resorting to memes now? How exactly are these "larger" ships going to keep the enemy in their gunsights while not flying like a retard while also allowing gunners to actually shoot their targets?

And on another note, what in the fuck would you consider not flying like a retard for these ships that have large surface areas? If they start tumbling around like a dog fight, that means their gunners can't hit the target still.
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>>152048608
Depends on the size of the ship.

If its large enough, you shouldn't be trying to keep your nose pointing at a target unless its far away, because you're just going to fail.

If its something like a connie, you cruise -> decouple -> strafe while flying backwards.

You NEVER EVER joust in ANY FUCKING SHIP
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>>152048598
>hurrrr samefag

Thanks for proving you have a legit victim complex. Go cry about it in your hugbox instead of in a video game general.
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>wait for gamescom
>wait for gamescom
>wait for gamescom

So have they announced fuck all yet?
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>>152049128
Wait for the actual gamescom presentation
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>>152049128
https://youtu.be/JA_FcXnyV5Q

Video showing some 2.2 stuff. New fighter >>152040254 confirmed.
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>>152044342
even on bigger ones like the starfarer or retaliator they're fucking terrible. That presents a problem considering they rely on them for defense
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>>152049953
>New space station interiors

Boy it only took them how long?
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>>152050237
fdev are in this one for the long run, CMDR ;-)
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it just isn't yet enough
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Summary of news from the SC stream


[Will there be DirectX 12 or Vulkan support?] They are investigating future-proofing with DirectX and Vulkan – undecided whether they will go with one or both.
[Will we see anything regarding Star Marine?] They will not be showcasing Star Marine during the five-days stream on the showfloor. It is on track for 2.6. This doesn’t rule out it appearing on the Friday night party.
Disco has just shown off the PC Guru magazine front cover that has a photo of Mark Hamill in-game on it.
The Starmap is NOT complete. There are systems that have not been discovered and are not on the Starmap.

http://imperialnews.network/2016/08/gamescom-2016-inn-summary/
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>>152051094
that is literally no news
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>>152051653
exactly
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>>152040254
is it me or does that fighter looks like it's made by Lakon?
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>>152051094
>not showing 2.6
>probably not showing 2.7
so fucking nothing happening over the next five days?
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>>152051905
Same cockpit as the Asps. Exact same cockpit from the video released.
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>>152051905
ALLIANCE FLEET SHIPS SOON
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>>152051905
>>152040254
let me explain:
- huge reverse thrusters: check
- angles, angles everywhere: check
- huge bulbous cockpit: check

>>152051968
>>152052008
yeah I wouldn't be surprised if that fighter was a Lakon, AND that eventual Alliance ships will be Lakon
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>>152044190
Play B17 The Mighty 8th or IL2 to get some sense of the difficulty. The B17 is luxorious with all its turrets. Try to hit anything in a german coffin.
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>>152052062

I would be ok with that.

I like the Lakon ships.

However the best thing ever would be a fighter with the Hauler engine noises. If i am to be subject to the wailing of the damned i would prefer to have it happen in a more fitting ship.
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>>152052578
what I want is a combat type 7
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>>152019930
why do they hide the computers from the people?
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>>152052720
Is that your OC shipfu Anon?

That's about five times as blocky as it needs to be.
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>>152052720

400 tons of weaponry, no mobility.

...But whatever meanders in front of you is just gone.
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>>152052823
yes

it's Lakon, what did you expect, curves?
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>>152052720

You'd have to make turrets actually useful first.
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>>152052720

that thing would need to be more expensive than an FDL but i like your design, anon.
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>>152052847
>>152052893
FAS tier mobility/agility but shit side thrusters + Vulture tier shields m80s

I know my writing sucks
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>>152052808
Because they want to hide the fact that no regular PC is able to run the game and they're powering their booth with a supercomputer in the basement of course.
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>>152052885
You say that like I don't know fuck all about Elite lore.

And nah just less of a flying block and more of a Volvo.
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>>152051653
we knew nothing was going to happen at Gamescom because they're saving everything for Citizencon
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>>152052903
make it only 2 large HPs then. By the numbers 4 medium > 2 large because with the exception of small HPs, having 2 HPs of the smaller size means 20~50% more firepower than one of the bigger size.
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>>152053114

They spent 100 million on the computer that could actually run the game.
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>>152049953
Did anyone see how much damage that fighter was doing to a Cobra mk4 at the minute mark? I thought they would be doing shit damage due to their size, but it's multi's were tearing that hull up. I'm actually a little hyped to make a carrier corvette and destroy people.
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>>152051094
>They will not be showcasing Star Marine during the five-days stream on the showfloor.
>on the showfloor

sneaky
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So can anyone here tell me the pros and cons to ED? Friend asked me to pick it up, says he plays a bounty hunter. Game looks interesting enough.
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>>152053921
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>>152053921
Game lacks content like hell
Graphics are cool, runs on toasters but the forum playerbase is composed by utter retards, and FD listen to these retards
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>>152053921
Pros:
It is playable
Cons:
Everything else
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>>152049953
holy shit that looked like content

it wasnt just me right, that was content

There is a good change this update may ACTUALLY be good

holy shit I am hyped
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>>152054164
>>152054176
So then why play it?
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>>152054278
I don't?
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>>152054278
It's fun
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>>152049953
Multicrew!
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>>152054278
VISION
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>>152054278
Many of us have stopped long ago and instead discuss what should have been done and could be done to make it better.
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>>152054526
that sounds awful
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>>152053921

Pros:

>The game hooks you in for the first 20 or so hours depending on who you are. The visuals, sounds, and atmosphere are just phenomenal.
>Combat is pretty solid and satisfying
>Space trucking is pretty nice if that's your sort of thing
>Exploration is nice but gets repetitive. Can be okay if you like being out on your own and taking screenshots
>Game can be nice if you enjoy roleplay with player groups

Cons

>Repetition sets in after awhile. There's only so long you can go by roleplaying that what you're doing actually mattes but the truth is that what you do has very little impact on anything
>FD has no idea what they're doing with the game, throwing things at a wall and seeing what sticks. Future of the game is somewhat uncertain and we don't know what lies beyond the next update
>Game is a buggy mess, especially post-updates. Most grievous example was Powerplay being broken for an entire nearly 2 months before FD fixed it
>Game is advertised as "multiplayer" but theres little to do with others besides blowing them up. /edg/ doesn't play together because there's nothing to do together
>One character slot. If you want another character to play, you need to rebuy the game again. Usually isnt a problem since you can do anything with one character but if youre exploring youll find yourself self-destructing once you're 10k light years out to get back to some shootan
>FD releases updates with no regards as to how they'll affect the game later and abandons them shortly after. See: Powerplay
>General bad design decisions like irrelevant ships, Powerplay weapons that take forever to get but are inferior to other weapons, ships that don't handle like they should and contradict what the game says they should be. I could go on, it's quite literally a mess
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>>152054331
but how is it fun?
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>>152054561
There are plenty of alternatives to play. There's a reason why there's a pastebin in the OP that is full of alternatives to play while waiting for Ed to ever be good or SC to release.
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>>152054641
You're directly contradicting yourself, anon

Just saying
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>>152054641
why the fuck would I pay 30 bucks to fly around in space with nothing to do?
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>>152054691
>don't play ED go play other games
ok
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>>152054809

I'm dead tired and have to leave for work soon, just kind of typed it up to kill time. Is it about the multiplayer?
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>hear a lot about Star Citizen recently
>decide to look it up
>looking at all these ships

What the fuck, they don't even have arms.

But I could seriously go for a ship style like the Outlaw Star.
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>>152046946
A starter ship comes with the game when you pledge. You can currently rent ships with in game credits from playing the arena commander modules.
>>
>Imperial Courier
>480T and packs a serious punch in all previous games
>imperial workhorse
>35T and Master rank in ED

screw you david
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>>152055452
Anon what the fuck?
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>>152055452
Weebshit is rightfully staying 2D
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>>152055667
still a great ship though

those shields are disgustingly good
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>>152055667
hold me
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>>152056467

lmfaooooo this

last thing this dying shit general needs is anime faggots shitting it up
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>>152057219
>lmfaooooo this
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go back to your own general, brutor
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>minmatar
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>>152058275
DELET
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Anyone else experiencing crazy load times to get into game?

I just purchased horizons yesterday (though i have like 300 hours on elite somehow). I just made it out to the Pleiades and now my load times are absurd.
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>>152058275
I did an ERP where my Gallente officer character was overseeing joint operations between Minmatar-Gallente forces in some fringe system. She came across this futa-Minmatari and they fugged hard.
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>>152057219
>>152056467
there is literally nothing wrong with the basic design of the Outlaw Star.
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>>152058681
post logs
>>152058651
no
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>>152058651
>he bought horizons
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>>152058869

I have faith in "vision"
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>>152058869
PRAISE THE GLORIOUS VISION
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>>152058869
that pic was never more relevant
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>>152055452
ship designs in star citizen reek of bad design, it's why most of them have fucking wings.

you can also tell by the interior layout that they design the exterior first and try and cram all the shit the ship needs to do into the shell instead of doing interior layout first (the area you're going to be spending a great amount of time in) and wrapping an appropriate exterior around it.
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>>152059632
>>152059806
What happens if the VISION flops?
All the dads will cry!
But will it flop, oh will it flop?
NO! NO!
Can you tell us why?
The VISION is eternal! (Yes!)
The VISION is forever! (Yes!)
Grumble grumble, prattle prattle!
Who is the reason why!?
BRAAABENNN
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>>152060314
>ship designs in star citizen reek of bad design, it's why most of them have fucking wings.


The Retaliator is designed for atmospheric use and deployment from planetary bases, much like other ships.

That said, beats fucking triangles every day of the week.
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>>152058651
Why did you buy horizons? Youre just enabling ftroop to keep fucking up.
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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15457-Incoming-Transmission
>it's a twitter PR episode

>>152060434
The Retaliator is still badly designed though. Turret placement is terrible and especially the interior is far from functional. Lots of space wasted for nothing.
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>>152060314
>it's why most of them have fucking wings.
Why do you still hate wings?
>>
Anyone wanna give me a referral code for Star Citizen?
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>>152060434
>atmospheric use
>vtol craft
>spends most of it's time in space bombing capitals
>could spend more of its time in space bombing planetary targets
>needs wings for reasons

sure thing kid. they can't even keep their own internal logical consistency right. if they have the balls to constantly sabotage themselves at every opportunity I'll sure as fuck stick to flying cheese wedges
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>>152061140
STAR-BDQC-9VX9
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>>152061140
>>152061308
Where do I find this thing anyhow? And what do they do?
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>>152061138
hnnngh descent
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>>152040254
I used to laugh at ED ship designs, but I have to admit the new stuff is growing on me. It's too bad the ingame stuff is drab as hell
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>>152061308
>STAR-BDQC-9VX9

Thanks mate, enjoy the free shit.
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>>152061238
not the anon you replied to

so stick to cheese wedges. Simple as that. The designs in SC could use some work, but arguing here changes nothing. If they wanted to make them without wings they would, but arguing here changes nothing about them nor will it ever have that effect.
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>>152061373
Its in the My Account area. It just gives some small bonuses to you and the referee unless you get like 30-50 people to buy the game.
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>>152061490
>try to play the ps1 version on the psp
>awkward as shit controls
I just wanted to play it on the train.

What happened to that remake?
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>>152061373

If you use it when you sign up you get 5 dollars for the in game store.
Not sure what the code poster gets. Probably 10 dollars?
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>>152061536
Thank ya, see you in the verse, as they say.
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i hate how everything in elite dangerous and star citizen is made exclusively of either hard metal surfaces or shiny plastics

where's the gritty rust? where's the interiors with wood and leather? where's the cheap 90s plastic dashboards? where is the metal foil? exposed insulation? textiles?
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>>152061665
>What happened to that remake?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMUIKfT_SWQ
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>>152061665
there's been a bajillion remakes. some were mediocre and some didn't release
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>>152061665
Still making videos. Have a blast from the past: https://youtu.be/JXapNU5zmhE

And yeah, 6dof is hard on controllers.
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>>152061790
apparently SC will have wear and tear. I doubt it's in right now, but some of their hangars are gritty. Not sure about ED
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>>152061790
I imagine you would want your ship to be as sturdy as it can get while flying around in a vacuum.

Some grime would be welcome though. Here's hoping you can at least make ships look a little less pristine.
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>>152061790
If Frontier has any brains they'll start pumping out DLC to that effect, probably about the time space legs comes out.

SC seems like it would take massive amounts of resources to do the same.
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>>152061790
There is at least a kinda logical reason these things are built from more or less fireproof materials.

Look at airplanes, half of them have interiors that look like cheap caravans mostly because there's very few fireproof wood/fabric materials.

But yeah it'd be neat to see some more of that stuff, or even just a ship that looks like someone's living in it, like the rooms they had in Firefly.

>>152061861
>>152061986
Fair enough, that thing worth it? I only remember some odd payment system for ships for the EA.
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>>152061790

Every ship I drove in ED so far looks like a cheap SUV on the inside
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>>152061986
>>152061861
Bulk from power rangers and riff raff from RHPS are making a video game?
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>>152061238
Its a strategic bomber, launching torpedoes on space targets isn't the only thing it does.

That said, I'd take a "It has wings because it operates in atmosphere, deal with it" over "You can't yaw because lol ww2 dogfights"
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>>152062343
Maybe that's just me because I'm used to flight sims, but what's the deal with yaw-ing anyhow? I hardly use it and at least the 325a yaws quite well.
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>>152061665
PC-only multiplayer arena shooter.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/360950/
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>>152060791
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>>152061665
Oh wait, were you talking about the Outrage guys one? There's a demo out:

http://playoverload.com/
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>>152062916
I wasn't, but that looks good too.
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>>152062583
Pitch and yaw is objectively better than pitch and roll, assuming you're using fixed weapons.

Not even on the same level in SC.
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Minmatar small ships are unironically the best looking in EVE
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>>152063142
Only the Rifter is.
But I haven't played in years.
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>>152061138
I don't, they could have at least made them serve other purposes though.

They could have used them to:
Carry extra weapons
Carry extra fuel
Act as additional surface area with which to dissipate heat
House additional ammo/cargo

But they don't do any of that, they're just useless fucking aerofoils that increase your ship's profile with no benefit at all IN A GAME WHERE YOU FLY EVERYWHERE IN MOTHERFUCKING SPACE

THERE'S NO ATMOSPHERE IN SPACE YOU DON'T NEED WINGS
SPACE IS BIG, YOU NEED BIGGER FUEL TANKS
SPACE IS DANGEROUS, YOU NEED WEAPONS
SPACE IS A VACUUM, HEAT BUILDUP WILL FUCKING KILL YOU

GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER CIG
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>>152063304
>Act as additional surface area with which to dissipate heat

Heat sinks are on the wings on some ships, though.

Plus, who says they don't have fuel in them? Sounds like you just don't get the design philosphy of SC, to me.
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>>152063259
Me neither, and i only played for trial as a highsec miner
I wish i could play EVE solo, missile focus ships give me a boner
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>>152063304
rule of cool :^)))))
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>>152063304
>having your thrusters further from the center of mass gives more control
>ships are capable of atmo flight
>having weapons spread further apart means more flexibility
>HURRR ALL SHIPS HAVE TO BE BORG CUBES OR CHEESE WEDGES :--DD
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>>152058686
There's nothing really wrong with the whole robot arm concept... since the actual space shuttle had them. And the idea of weaponizing them was actually pretty neat. But eventually Outlaw Star took it to stupid lengths by having ships engage in fucking melee battles in space.
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>>152063304
Reasonable standpoint.

>>152063119
I say, personal preference. That said what keeps you from just binding yaw to your y axis and using it like the old space games do?

Again, I know it's an issue with the Reliant, but the Origin I have seems to fly in every direction just fine.
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>>152063304
there's atmosphere on blaneds
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I never liked the dungeon-crawl feel of the original Descent, but I like the idea of one in an urban environment. Maybe a Bernal sphere. ED has made me excited about the idea of a space colony game.
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>>152063304
Then why do Elite ships have somewhat aerodynamic features? Wouldn't Spheres/Cubes be more efficient? Why is there sound in space? Why are there explosions with typical atmo patterns of smoke/burning gas?
Fuck off with your cherrypicking.
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>>152063738
Well the absurd size of the arms looks off.

That show worth watching just to have some more cowboy bebop shit?
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>>152063740
>That said what keeps you from just binding yaw to your y axis and using it like the old space games do?

I do, My point was that E:D arbitrarily limits it to the point where its not viable.

In SC you can because they actually act like spacecraft, but don't particularly look like them in comparison to E:D's boring cubes.
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NMS does spaceships right.
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Am I autistic for disliking strongly people who are obviously not into space games but nevertheless feel like their input about ships having wings, games having sound in space and other platitudes are extremely valued by people who have been playing these games for ages? They have a typical smugness and sense of superiority you'd commonly find in children who just discovered tomatoes are actually fruits.
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>>152063836
>Then why do Elite ships have somewhat aerodynamic features?

Other than the Eagle I'm not seeing it.

Almost all of them aren't aerodynamic at all.
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>>152060791
>The Retaliator is still badly designed though
Indeed. People have pointed out they could have fit *three* modules in and still have had room for a nice open layout compared to the worthless coldwar submarine shit they actually did with the interior.
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>>152064056
Even a sidewinder has a profiled aspect that'd let air flow easily above it in order to generate some sort of lift. They definitely are designed with aerodynamics in mind, much more than ships like the Cutlass or the Freelancer.
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Will Elite Dangerous go on sale due to gamescom this week?
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>>152064049
no. I think they're fucking annoying because it's all just so pointless to argue about, especially the "sound/visual explosions in space" thing. They say these as if removing them will enhance the experience of a GAME. Maybe if you were making a 1:1 simulator like NASA, yeah it would make more sense, but this shit would only detract from the experience.
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>>152063893
It's not like Cowboy Bebop. It is a fantastic series though.
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>>152063916
Oh wait we're talking about E:D? I thought you were bitching about SC having shit yaw.

Never even tried to yaw in E:D frankly.

>>152063973
They honestly look like someone stuck that fighter cockpit from Space Engineers onto every shape possible.
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>>152063973

>GET THE FUCK DOWN FROM THERE
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>>152064248
air flow an aerofoil does not make

Sidewinder's a fucking brick. Don't be a moron.
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>>152064421
I mean, it is at least a triangle, that helps just a little with aerodynamics.

Also you seem to forget about the F-4. Just add enough power to the engines and anything can be made to fly.
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>>152064551
hurr durr lead sled

It had wings, anon.
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>>152064421
It literally is shaped like a sports car front.
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https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/765943646369771520

???
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SC sale when?
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>>152063893
it's a bit more anime-y than cowboy bebop, but watchable if you want some space stuff.
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>>152064636
What triggered your autism? I said it helps it's not a great design, but it's better than sticking engines on a brick.

Perhaps mentioning the 117 would've been better because that's literally just triangles stuck together held aloft by hopes and fly-by-wire.

Also >>152064636 it's just a space wedge.
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>>152064909
>Mentions two jet aircraft which bear no resemblance to the sidewinder, and have wings

really fires the frontal lobe, anon
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>>152064562

not this shit again
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>>152039298
that aint alliance, son, thats the neutral one
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>tfw Frontier's shit """""ARG""""" still hasnt been solved

Literally 0 progress in the past month other than finding that image in the sound file.
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>>152065010
>still ignoring all the points made
k. Here's an actual triangle with a rectangle underneath then.

Don't worry a picture of supersonic airfoils will follow too so you can learn the horrible truth about the use of triangles in supersonic flight.

Why it's so hard for you to accept the fact that a triangle (facing the wind) has a better aerodynamic profile than a rectangle is beyond me though.
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>>152064562
christ, not this viral marketing bullshit again. is this going to be the terrapin or the corvette?
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>>152064846
if one doesn't happen today, then it will be friday
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>>152065504
Thats a hypersonic aircraft that is thin enough to act like an aerofoil.

The sidewinder is chunky enough to burn to a fucking crisp and produce enough drag to strain the heaviest of engines at that speed.
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>>152065504
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>>152065741
Notice how they aren't as thick as an average bus and have pointed ends?

Yeah?

Thats for a reason, mouthbreather.
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>the thread is being kept alive by people arguing if triangles can fly
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>>152065962
Okay, I'll stop responding to the dad

Sorry to bother you, anon
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>>152065710
what are shields
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>>152065710
So? That still makes it better than a stupid brick on the same task.

It's horrid in terms of an actual aircraft, but you could make it fly by just putting some power behind it.

>>152065859
>not as thick
>could probably easily overlay the Sidewinder over it
Alright I like planes as much as you probably do, but this is getting stupid.

>>152065962
>>152066030
At least we agree for once.
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wud u fug a triangle
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>>152066158
>>152065962
>>152065859
>>152065741
Aren't most SF settings about the triumph of thrusters over aerodynamics?
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>>152066116
If you're using the shields, shape doesn't matter anyway
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>>152066246
that was my point. All ships in the ED universe are inside an ovoid shield, even fighters if that video of ship launched fighters is anything to go by
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>>152065962
I, personally, prefer my spaceships to be long and blocky.
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>>152060426
amen brother
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>>152066245
Most settings probably don't care and just use something that looks good or go with "antigrav"
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>>152066245
yeah. Why bother with design limitations when they can be overcome by anger and brute fucking force
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wouldnt a spaceship travelling really fast have to be super aerodynamic as well?
like, space isnt entirely empty
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>>152066507
>Why bother with X when they can be overcome by anger and brute fucking force
Sums up every problem that has ever existed
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Is it wrong that my favorite thing about SC is that they make commercials for the ships?
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>>152066245
Revelation Space is fairly good for that sorta thing.
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>>152066848
I did love the crap out of the top gear parody.
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>>152066774
The generally accepted solution seems to be to just put giant shields infront of them to deal with the debris.

I suspect because aerodynamics are of little use when vaccuum doesn't act like a fluid. Although a really angled ship would probably help with deflecting the debris, or at least keeping them from puncturing, similar to tank armour.
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>>152066774
Aerodynamic, no.

Shielded against hitting some spec of dust going 0.5c? yes
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ah right, i was thinking that clouds of gas would cause some friction, if you were travelling fast enough that the distance between them would seem negligible

im guessing that my line of thinking is hilariously wrong?
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>>152065536
Pretty sure they already ruled out the corvette, so probably the Terrapin.
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>>152065504
Tapered trailing edge (hence, an overall diamond shape if you really wanted to use a triangle as a base) reduces drag by a pretty decent amount. Why do you think literally all fuselage designs have tapered ends?

Experimental supersonic platforms obviously doesn't give a shit about drag, because they're trying to attain highest possible thrust at all costs. Trailing edge just means deadweight to them.
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>>152067756
No clue honestly, All I know is that you'd have to go really really fast to make even those clouds seem dense enough to really do much for those types of effects. The real danger comes from the tiny shit hitting you way too fast.

But that's realism, it'd be interesting enough for some light sci-fi stuff.
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>>152067136
A 0.1g spec of space dust hitting an object at 0.2c has a kinetic energy of 179751035747 Joules

An M829 tank round has a kinetic energy of ~12900000 Joules.

Armor don't mean shit.
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>>152068062
That was just a comparison of the effect angled armour has compared to a flat surface.

Of course you'd still have to have a stupidly thick armour to really help, but it could be less thick than if you just put a flat plate in front of the ship.

>>152067909
Well aware of this stuff. But really, we stopped arguing for a reason.
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>>152067136
>Although a really angled ship would probably help with deflecting the debris, or at least keeping them from puncturing, similar to tank armour.

Modern tank armor has completely let go of angling to increase effectove thickness/deflection chance. Instead it relies on layering. Multiple mlayers of materials of different density and hardness are laid on top of each other, with the objective of shattering the incoming kinetic penetrator or disturbing and dispersing the incoming jet of plasma created by a HEAT round.
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>>152068357
Only thing angled armor does is potentially make something deflecting.

Past that it confers no advantages compared to non-angled armor of the same weight.
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>>152068357
>comparison
An example*

>>152068496
Fair enough.

>>152068582
What about relative armour thickness?
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>>152067756
Nebulae are ridiculously huge and therefore not dense at all, they wouldn't generate significant friction at sub lightspeed paces.
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>>152053114
lol. Substandard pcs shouldn't be called regular. If you can't run SC why are you even pcing?
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>>152066848
I wish they did it more. But i guess thats extra time taken from game production.
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>Star Marine will not be shown on the show floor -Lando
so, nothing until friday
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>>152069410
>memeing around nitpicked words
nothing until citizencon
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>>152066195
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Imperial Explorer when?
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>>152069652
>memeing

He said not to "rule out" it being shown on Friday, dipshit
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>>152070148
Mamba when?
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>>152064056

Elite ships were all designed with atmospheric spaceflight in mind

Because you know, you could land on EVERY planet in Frontier and FFE
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>>152070350
Sure thing, dad
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Post your favorite E:D ship, based on aesthetics only.
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>>152070475
What are they doing in a ice ring?
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so is there any reason at all to tune into the SC livestream
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>>152070475

literally Lego: The Ship

cutter is objectively the best looking ship
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>>152019787
The woman in OP pic reminds me of a girl who liked me in sixth form until I managed to completely fuck up the relationship and I'm still bitter about over 5 years later.
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>>152070642
no, unless you wanted to listen to downgraded twitch "personalities"
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>>152070350
Even I have to agree that's bs. Some of them are vaguely shaped as if they could be aerodynamic but most of them are just blocks.

Look at the Viper or the bigger ships.
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>>152070701
>iShips
>good looking
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>>152070701
>literally Lego: The Ship
Are you implying that's a bad thing?

http://gizmodo.com/5522071/rip-nate-nnenn-nielson-lego-spaceship-builder-extraordinaire
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>>152070701
>imperial flying iphones
>better looking than federal murder fridges
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>>152070701
>literally Lego: The Ship
I'm not seeing it. Also Imperial ships look shit
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>>152070641
Ganking miners.
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>>152070998
that guy was pretty good
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>>152070641
>>152071271
the corvette is actually a great mining ship, even better than the conda thanks to the three class 7 slots and increased agility
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>>152071543
Must be pretty fucking soul crushing getting one of the most irritating to unlock ships in the game and using it to mine.
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>>152070475
I like the fer-de-lance, the nigel thornberry nose makes me cum
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>>152071682
mining is comfy and it's good money. When you need a change from hauling it's great
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>>152071773
Which ship has a nigel farage nose?
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>>152070998
I see NMS ripped off a design almost literally from there.
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>>152070475
viper mk.IV

shame it's utter shit
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>>152072094
So with you. It is incredibly sexy, nearly as sexy as it is worthless.
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>>152070475
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>>152072034
desu seems like nms just rips its ships from BSG
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>>152072707
Shame
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>>152072398

The perspective on this image is all kinds of fucked

>>152072707
I have seen five of these ships land right next to each other before.
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>>152072707
>you will never be Chief and fug a hot cylon babe while repairing dozens of fighters
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>TOP SECRET UPDATE: First level pass complete. More retweets needed. Next level:0 1,000 additional data units required. Continue to RT here.

This whole marketing thing is stupid.
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>>152073136
If it looks stupid but it works, it ain't stupid
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>>152066376
>all shields are ovoid
maybe that's why most of the ships are shaped the way they are
to minimize the waste of space inside the shield.
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>>152072707
It looks so good but the guns are mounted so awkwardly on some versions of the Viper.

On a bunch they look like they're glued on. This one is alright though.

Too bad I lost interest about 3 seasons in. That stuff just turned into drama and too little of the same footage Vipers fighting toasters.

That freespace 2 mod was cool though. Neat flak effects for the battlestars. Dito for the Homeworld 2 one.
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>>152072951
>Not fucking the Vipers
Get out.
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>>152073516
do you think Tyrol stuck his dick in some pipes?
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>>152073136
It really is godawful. You can tell the concept was thrown together in about 5 minutes after someone probably mentioned "hey we need the virals and the trendings and the socials!"
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>>152072951
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>>152073952
>ou can tell the concept was thrown together in about 5 minutes after someone probably mentioned "hey we need the virals and the trendings and the socials!"

This isn't the first time they've used this, anon.
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>>152073282
It makes me think less of cig as a company... Which i wouldn't have even thought was possible.
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>>152073952
Apart from that, this is the..what..third time they've done this now?
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>>152074070
Second time actually.
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>>152074258
What an ugly ship
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>spent the last hour bounty hunting in a high res in a Viper mk3
>helping my empire bros killing this fed dropship that just spawned
>almost dead, my shields are full so i decide to meme
>engage the boost and ram full speed
>die

I don't give a shit anymore, give me a fun ship to grind bounty hunting with
I have 20m, but i don't mind grinding at sothis-ceos if i have to
>>
Star citiscam
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>>152074312
And yet its still the prettiest of the 300 series. Fucking poorly designed space buttplugs
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>>152074432
GOTTEM
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>>152074341
Typical imperial.
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>>152074494
>space buttplugs
Can't unsee.
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>>152073647
Who wouldn't?
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>>152074494
I hope I never have to look at the others if thats the prettiest one.
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>>152074575
>factional shitposting
keep it out of here, i just want a ship
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>>152074494
>>152074649
>>152074312
They're literally just rockets with wings attached to them.
Pretty fuckin' cool T B H.
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>>152074664
>empire bros
I think you're the factional shitposter

FAS or Vulture for your price point.
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>>152074341
>orca
>HRPs everywhere, biggest shield you can get, ram everything
>FDS, FGS or Asp
>all multicannons, never stop firing
>iCourier
>fast as fuck, one fixed MC under the nose and two pack hounds for the true Macross Experience
>Fed Corvette
>point and click to delete shit
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>>152074815
Thanks m8
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>>152074775
Space car biplane more like.
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>>152074775
i disagree
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>>152074775
The way the spoiler connects to the wings and fuselage just offends me in some way I can't describe. The early concepts were way better.
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>>152071836
mining is more mind numbing than bulk trading if you ask me

tell me your secret
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>>152075668
dad rock
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>>152075457
Looks better when it connects to the wingtip frankly. Unless you put guns where the top wing connects with the bottom one to create some sort of break.
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>>152075668
Not him but my secret is netflix and anime since you have so much alt-tab time
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>>152075457
you just don't understand the advancement of aerodynamics in the 30th century anon
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>>152070475
this tight little cunt, desu senpai
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>>152074341
Buy a vulture
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>>152075802
If only that was a joke.

Ring wings and box wings are pretty good if you want to avoid vorticies.
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>>152075996
fed ships are sexy as fuck tbqh
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So, I was playing Elite: Dangerous - Horizons in the past few days, and I found a planet, with a mountain in a crater. I figured I’d be “Crazy”, and land on the top of the Mountain, so I did.

I was there, landed a few minutes, dozens of lightyears from anywhere, and this twinkly piano piece began to play. Looking out, over the majesty of stars, sitting so Small and alone, I admit that I teared up a little. I did. I was overcome by it all.

It’s incredible that the life’s work of a Cambridge scholar, to create a believable simulation of our galaxy, has all but come true. And it’s only going to get more real. Imagine the next generation of Quantum computing, a Thousand times faster than modern Machines. Though most likely, some of that will be swallowed up by larger displays with Higher resolutions.

Still, The Stars My Destination.
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>>152078157
Its a shame that the slave barge doesn't even look that good compared to the Farragut. Its shit in literally every possible way
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>>152078390
I wonder if the one who originally wrote this was just memeing to a supreme level
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>>152078531
Reminds me of the ship from Andromeda (not a good thing)
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>>152075668
Just do it in the haz res. Sure youll make more from bounties but eh
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>>152079190
Fighting off a deadly Anaconda with mining lasers sounds fun
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>>152079291
In ed....fun is what you make with the tools given to you by lord braben.


Sure he handed you a saw, two nails and a scrap of wood the said make a sky scraper out of gold and dont forget the permits. That parts VISION.
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Fuck lads, I've been visioned.
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>>152079625
I think the only one having fun trying to fight things off with mining lasers will be the pirates when you manage to blow yourself up from the heat.
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>>152078390
really makes you think
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What is the most FEDERATION name I can CMDR?
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>>152080318
probably one you auctioned off.
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>>152080318
johnny rico
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>>152080318
Richard Havecock
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>>152080913
I would like to know more.
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>>152080318
CMDR Federation
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Bought in the other day with an Aurora LN package that included Squadron 42. Wasn't sure what to think about it after the disappointment of No Man's Sky.

Been playing Arena Commander all day with AI before finally moving into real matches. Dogfighting is intense. Game looks beautiful.

I am officially hype.
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>>152080913
I'm hoping we get a nice thargoid war so I can be a citizen and kill some bugs for the Federation
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>>152081208
green cylon basestar sounds pretty much like you're going to get what you're hoping for
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>>152081514
Just wish they'd add proper ground assaults complete with deploying troops from dropships and deployable tanks so we can kill bugs properly.
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>>152081804
maybe around the time star citizen pu gets released
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What do you guys do while space trucking? I usually watch videos on my second monitor.
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>>152082229
Alt-tab into other things or read books/kindle if I'm jumping a lot.
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>pls retweet for new ship goy

are they serious
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>>152081939
You can just say never.
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>>152081195
I actually enjoy No Man's Sky, and I'm really debating getting into Star Citizen.

What is there to actually do in the persistent universe game? In games like these I very much like to try and gain the economic system and be a trader, are there things like that I can do? Like are there actual trade routes I can do? In a game like Archage nothing made me happier than being able to load up my character with trade goods, hop into my boat, and be one of the first people getting in to sell my stuff when a new market opened up.
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>>152082518

Not sure, I've had it for seriously five hours, and most of that was spent dogfighting. There are a few Universe locations open, but nothing is really functional yet.
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>>152082518
Not yet, economy has yet to be implemented on this scale. It won't be at least until next year or further.
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>>152082518
Trade routes to the fucking extreme.
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So the claims that SC will release at the end of 2016 are bullshit, right? 3+ years waiting.
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>>152082229
Listen to science programs. Working my way through this at the moment: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8dPuuaLjXtPAJr1ysd5yGIyiSFuh0mIL
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Rank 4 focused or overcharged Pulse Lasers for a FAS with a weapon focused distributor?
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>>152082639
>>152082518
No economy to speak of, and the credits are getting wiped pretty consistently right now. It's probably not going to be for a while. At the very least until the other planets start getting put into the game.

As of right now it's a dogfighting arena and Hangar to look at your pretty ships.
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>>152083016
SQ42 end of year, not SC.
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>>152083016
Probably confused with Squadron 42, which will probably be delayed into 2017.
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>>152083179

Fair, I misspoke. Thanks friend.
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>>152082518
fedex
>not Amazon Prime
>2 h free shipping everywhere in the galaxy
>planets being used as Amazon warehouses which stock EVERYTHING, from minerals to slaves to ships and even ayylium species
>With its own mercenary fleet guarding the absurd number of Hull A through E delivering around the galaxy
Working as a spess trucker, a man can dream
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>>152083335
I'm a little upset that so many of the ships look like various versions of "future planes" I'd love some ships that look like my picture there.

I guess I could get the Aurora package, and then just wait to get the Ford Picklancer.
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>>152083335
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28789342
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>>152083854
>use app or sign in

No thanks.
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>>152083335
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW without amazon prime, not living in Seattle, and receiving FREE 30 minute delivery by drone
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>>152083982
At least I don't live in Seattle.
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>GS2016
>Elite Dangerous Big Reveal
>David Braben walks up on stage
>He shuffles some papers, then quietly sets them down and drops his pants
>He quickly turns and begins twerking
>He does this for 10 minutes
>There is no music and it's dead silent
>Afterwards, he pulls up his pants and waves to the crowd
>Standing ovation
>The forumdads spend the rest of the year coming up with detailed explanations of what it means for the game in a good way, picking fights over opposing theories and generally further slipping into delusion
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>trying to figure out what armour piercing does
>have to use guide written by a furry
>not even the blinking forumdad furry
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>>152083716
your picture reminds me of homeworld's ships, same design
>>152083854
holy shit thats exactly what i meant, but with the packages being dropped from orbit seems a lot like Amazon ODST conquering a planet

>>152083982
eh i have 1 day shipping, only in Milan there is 2 hour shipping sadly, cuz there is a warehouse nearby
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>>152084751
>homeworld's ships
I've never actually played Homeworld, I'd just like more ships that aren't space planes.
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>>152084265

this
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>>152080913
>tfw I'm reading Starship Troopers right now
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>>152085590
Why bother? The movie is a lot better.
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>>152084405
>GS2016
>Braben gets on stage
>suddenly Roberts walks on stage
>they announce that E:D and SC will have reality wormholes to travel between them seamlessly
>suddenly Derek Smart rushes the stage
>they tackle him together
>they pull off the Smart mask
>turns out to be Warren Spector
>Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous now have Spector as lead writer
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>>152086196
I have a Kindle so I might as well read as much stuff as possible.
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>>152083716
Yeah it really is a problem with SC ships, so many spaceplanes. And even ships that used to be more unique, like the Hornet it its blockiness, are now being redone to look more like generic jet fighters, because everything has to be space planes.
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>>152084937
Almost all of the ships are small single-person or small group craft right now, and it doesn't make sense to design them to handle shittily in atmospheres. Capital ships aren't going to be space planes.
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>>152086545
Maybe it has something to do with the planet module.
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>>152082409
Apparently. They even seem to be planning on milking this shit for nine images this time. Hopefully it fails miserably, they have to put up the concept sale up on friday anyway and they never do this bullshit again.
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>>152086456
We've become so starved for content we've become delusional. You're like a man in the desert imagining you are seeing an oasis.
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>>152085590
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIsv1YOFNys
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>>152086852
Don't let your dreams be memes.
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>>152064056
Hauler, Adder, Fer de Lance, Federal Dropship (and variants) all have wings. Not to mention the Cobra IV, Viper IV and iEagle all have spoilers and fins.
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>>152086663
every thing larger than a Freelancer has generally been un-spaceplane like.
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>>152086664
Nope, its just been Chris' own fetish for jet fighters. They release the design documents showing how these things were made, you can actually pinpoint the moment in each ship's development when CR pressured the concept artist to make it more like a jetplane, "sleeker", and more "aerodynamic". They do this for almost every single ship.

We thought Drake were the only manufacturer safe from this, and then they ignored all the concept art and inspiration people had put in on the thread they set up, and made another jet fighter with two wings and the cockpit at the nose.
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>>152086997
My waking life is memes, its too late
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>>152086962
I think the atrocities that were the other 2 Starship Troopers movies were worth it just for this.
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>>152087123
>>152086663
The joy of these games is being able to pick your own personal shipfu that has a unique look and silhouette, with comparable stats to other ships. Other than the Aurora and the Reliant, this is basically absent from SC's smaller ships.
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>>152087123
what is that one between the Freelancer and the Redeemer?
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>>152087138
The last buccaneer design document they released just made me depressed. The ship slowly had every critical feature it was suppose to have stripped away, and each sketch made the wings bigger, the shape more generic and put the guns in stupider locations.

People wanted a small agile two man ship that could hold some cargo and had a docking ring and were given a single seat star fighter you can't even eject from.
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>>152088134
The Idris
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>>152086962
>tfw still no vedforce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E99QhmFe_cE
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>>152088134
The Carrick. It's an exploration ship primarily. Nearest current ship to the Bebop to the Starfarer's Serenity.
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>>152088197
All I really wanted from it was what I said, a ship with a cool new silhouette. Instead we got a grislier looking version of what we've already got a dozen times over.
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>>152088134
The Carrack. Corvette sized long range exploration ship. It's a lot of people's shipfu.
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>>152088454
Carrick is a little smaller than a corvette actually. We haven't seen the Polaris yet, but we know from the original Idris what their idea of a Corvette is, it's closer to the Reclaimer or a little larger.
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>>152088451
Fuck off, we've established in dozens of threads that you "m-muh spaceplanes" whiners are retarded and there's no pleasing you.
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>>152088316
>Nearest current ship to the Bebop

This is why I'm excited to try and get one for my group.
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>>152088746
I have a carrack and a merchantman that I need a group for.
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>>152088454
>>152088316
I like the long look and the foil "wings"

I'd love to have something like that, but in a smaller size, too bad Anvil doesn't have a focus on civilian stuff.

I'm just so torn between something that's reasonable for one person to pilot, but big enough to carry a few friends comfortably on long trips. If the Freelancer didn't have those wing tips on the engines, and a little galley, I'd be in love with it.
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>>152088980
If you are talking real money, just get a starter ship and then earn the one you actually want in game.
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>>152089195
I'm talking endgame, the ship I want for the rest of my life, kind of deal.

I'm sure I'll start with an Aurora with the expanded cargo carrier.
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>>152088746
>you will never float your Carrick on the surface of an ocean planet and go fishing off the deck while your Q.T scumbag bounty hunter shipmate sunbathes.
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>>152088673
In your imagination apparently.

No idea why you are so upset at people wanted more variety in the designs. Looks like even triangles: the game is starting to BTFO Star Citizen with it's new fighter, this is just getting sad.

Brace for the Terrapin being another jetfighter.
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>>152088980
>and a little galley
I'm like 80 % certain that this cabinet opposite the shower is suppose to be a kitchenette thing.
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>>152089512
I've mentioned it before but having some energetic bebop playing in the background while taking on Vanduul swarm made me feel 100% like I was in one of Spike's dogfights. Felt good.
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>>152089721
forgot image
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>you will never have cute scifi outfits and visors ever again
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>>152082229

I listen to old Acquisitions Incorporated D&D podcasts/panels.
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>>152090029
Even the before puts ED to shame. Only game with uglier models is Dragon Age.
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>>152090230
That's because ED is a British game, and there's only ugly people over there. They don't know any better.
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What is this Terrapin people keep talking about?
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>>152090345

All ED models are uncanny valley as fuck. It wouldn't surprise me if FD's narrative is to reveal them as ayy lmao fifth columnists.
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>>152090345
>>152090230
Why is it we cant have hair in ED, I get that it is space and all and shaven is practical but really, you see plenty of real astronauts with hair and even some with really long hair.
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>>152090723
>uncanny valley
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>>152090737
Too much money to model hair I guess.
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>>152090387
Aegis tier two starter ship. Was original described as a tanky little ship able to hold cargo and that is often converted into a mining ship.

Then CIG shit on the concept of viable solo miners with the Prospector, so who the fuck knows what the Terripin would be good for now.
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>>152090387
Heavily armoured and shielded anvil "starter ship".

They had a poll ages ago where people could vote for which design for a starter ship would get made. The Reliant won, but CIG wanted to make the Dragonfly anyway so that got made too, and on a whiteboard in the background of a video people spotted the Terrapin listed as being ready for sale, so that is likely the new ship they are about to reveal with this twitter thing.
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>>152090818

>In aesthetics the uncanny valley is the hypothesis that human replicas that appear almost but not exactly like real human beings elicits feelings of eeriness and revulsion among some observers.

Please inform me where I did wrong.
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>>152090998
No, because this is an anonymous image board and I don't have to admit when I'm wrong or face any shame whatsoever.
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>>152091279

>I'm wrong

Aha, gotcha!
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>>152091396
>it's literally an inflatable raft in space
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>>152090998
They're just ugly as opposed to in the uncanny valley.
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>>152091483
Yeah but you don't know who I am so I am safely insulated from the consequences.
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>>152091518

>implying ugly people aren't uncanny valley

>>152091654

Go to bed, Stuart.
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>>152092290
Nah, uncanny valley is a specific thing where it looks creepily unhuman because of how close it is to looking realistic, ED faces are just ugly fairly low detail faces.
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>>152090345
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>>152092290
Eve's character creator is uncanny valley
E:D's characters are just ugly.
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>>152092461
she's mine you dunce
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>>152091396
glad to see someone else who wants combat variants of space cows
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>>152092791
Apparantly with enough mines the space cows can pack a decent punch to anything not expecting it to shit out a sea of explosions.
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>>152090818
Don't worry anon, there will be hair.
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>>152092891
which is great desu

mines are easy enough to avoid but they you don't expect them they'll fuck your shit up big time. I think they're too easy to avoid
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>>152092961
Will there be blood?
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>>152090029
to be honest senpai, i want that 2001 girl to sit on my face so damn badly
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>>152041225
You would like to know that, Derek?
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This concept art looks like an EVE piece.
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>>152091396
>Launching missiles out the retro thruster ports.
Brave design choice.
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>>152095689
I want to rim the brown girl
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>>152095689
>the badass space heroes exit their T9 and head off to sell more space shit than anyone could imagine, ending the famine and saving the day yet again. Little Billy won't starve this cycle!
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>>152096209
I love all the artwork they used for their short stories & chronicles:
https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/
https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/short-stories/
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>>152096497

>meanwhile CMDR furryxXx_sniper_l0rd has made 100x the money selling slaves in his gold plated anaconda
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>>152096601
wew
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So how capable are you of tuning ships to things they're not initially for? turning would be fighters into cargo carriers, or turning freighters into massive weapon platforms?
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Just a reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HamHFVeAVe0
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>>152097224

In ED?

Depends on the number and size of their internals. Any fighter with lots of internals can become a freighter. Ships with few internals are most likely locked into a role as fighters.
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>>152070701
kys
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>>152066848
The commercials are great they said on the stream today that they plan on making more after Squadron 42 ships
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>>152096497

Admittedly, Little Billy Haversham of the Haversham mining magnates had a family that could afford the 6000% markup.

Little Mike, Jock and Lisa on the other hand ended up as emergency rations
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>>152095689
>two on the left are clearly fucking
>Black guy knows he's going to tap the redhead tonight.
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>>152097378

would racemix.
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How big is the SC download lads? >>>/v/348768102
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>>152090029

Left = Good Sikozu
Right = Bad Sikozu

Farscape = Best Space Waifus
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>>152046656
Google
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>>152098940
Around 30 GB at the moment, some patches are massive, but a fix for that is in the works.
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>>152098940
My install folder says 25.9Gb.
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>>152104605

Ultimate ship the second.
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>>152104605
Anything from The Culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series
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>>152104605
There's a distinct lack of gravitas in these names.
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>>152104605
If I somehow end up with a drake ship I'm definitely naming it the "Ejectile Dysfunction"
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>>152106739
Chop off the front "wings" and the Cutlass is pretty similar to the Clipper.
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I wonder if "Cunning Stunt" would make it past what ever name filters CIG will put in?
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>>152107194
Man I wish we could just have the front section of the Endeavour as it's own jump capable ship, it'd be baller as fuck.
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>>152040130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UssBtjEQ150
Looks like they added some kind of new passenger liner ship.
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Looking at the models and such, I'm really feeling the Constellation series. It's very much Firefly styled, with the cargo area with the ganway around it, and it's got seating area and such.

But can it be run by a single person easily?
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>>152107157
?
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>>152107470
Yeah sure
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>>152107470
(You)
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>>152107194
>>152107339
Can that thing carry smaller exploration ships? I heard jump points have different sizes so something that big might not be able to use all the points.
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>>152107419
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Beluga_Liner
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>>152107585
I've never played the WC series. This is a cool ship though.
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>>152107719
The Endeavour is a generic science vessel, it does ALL TYPES of science. For pure exploration you'd want a Carrick. There won't be any places you can only get to via smaller jumppoints anyway, it'll just be a longer route.
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>>152107339
The whole ship isn't even that bad looking once you ditch all the science stuff. Like if I could have a better armed militarized variant with a couple of hanger modules it would make an awesome battle cruiser.
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>>152088654
they said specifically that the Polaris will be from 100 to 110m. The old Idris was 170m, but that changed.
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>>152107470
The Taurus variant can be run solo. For the others you might want a second person to fly the parasite fighter.
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So can I play SC online at more than 30 fps yet?
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>>152108045
>Endeavor
>better armed militarized variant
>battlecruiser
>>>/RSI/
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>>152108269
nope. netcode still sucks. It's even worse in 2.5 atm.
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So if I'm using the free week of SC can I still give out referal codes for when I do buy in or do I have to actually buy a package first to get a code?
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Doesn't look like SC's viral marketing plan is working well. I wonder if they'll just give up and post the full image once they finally hit 2k retweets
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>>152108656
if it generates you one it should stay with your account
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>>152107724
I hope so, I thought it might just be an Orca variant. But the backside looks a bit too different.
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>>152108656
check the 'referral program' tab on your account page and see if you have a code?
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>>152108921
They specifically say it's a new ship in the video.
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>>152107972
Cheers.

>>152108045
Could you really convert a science ship into a battlecruiser? I would have thought lots of the fundamental design would be different. I mean I don't think you would repurpose an oceanic survey vessel or a container ship into a warship.

Well if you loaded all the top containers on a container ship with these you might be able to do some damage. Not sure how you aim though given container ships probably don't have very good sensors compared to a warship.
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>>152019787
Just popped in here for news on SC, have never played ED. Can someone explain what this whole dad meme is?
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What do you guys think is a good weapon set up for the courier? I am running 1 pulse 2 multicannons atm
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>>152109085
Ah cheers, I was watching at work so no sound.
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>>152108986
Well it shows I have one, thanks.
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>>152108827
Hope so. I don't know why they expected this to work multiple times.
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>>152108045
Nah it's a great looking ship, it would just be even sexier as just the front part, and that would give them a whole new ship type without having to add any new assets, it'd be a more vulnerable but better decked out Carrick
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>>152109357
I went with beam and mcs.

Others like wolfpacs and 1 mc for macross effect. 3 pulse are dumb your distributor empties fast.
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>>152109328
Typical ignorant millenial. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and apply yourself.

Fly safe CMDRs o7
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>>152108045
I'd honestly love to see that, reminds me of that awesome ship in the Rebel Fleet the Falcon docks into, that was a converted medical ship.
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>>152109328
Forumdads. They love all the pointless time-consuming, inconvenient shit in ED.

>>152109357
Do you hit the shields with the laser and then switch to multicannons for the hull? I found I can usually run a beam laser to strip shields quicker (better DPS but worse DPE), though against heavily shielded targets you may hit the capacitor limit. Also beam lasers look awesome.
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>>152108236
Just watched a little tour of the Taurus.
It think it's going to be my go to thing when the game goes live and such, it looks so trashed and like a piece of junk, it's great.
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>>152109981
I just want a brown Carrick to bounty hunt off of and I'm happy
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Just how pay to win is star citizen?

I'm looking at these pledge packages and they look kinda rediculous, but my friends are insisting its not pay to win.

I think they're just delusional because they like the idea of the game, but i'm not sure.
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>>152110906
it's easy enough to earn weapons in game that any p2w is negligible, in fact their website is so obtuse it's almost harder to use real money
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>>152109981
The current Taurus hanger model is outdated. The ship will probably be updated to look like a cheaper version of the current Andromeda when actually finished. Which is shame to some degree as the older model needed work but had a lot more character. I really love the Taurus' kitchen/table area compared to boring one they added in the Andro.
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>>152110906
The thing about the packages and standalone ships is that they will be able to be bought without real money in-game once that system is actually fully in place. There's an argument that it's still pay to win due to being able to buy currency, but that just makes us even on equipment with the dads that can't afford to spend time with the game due to job, but still want to enjoy it fully. There's also a monthly cap on amount of in-game currency you can buy to prevent people from buying millions of credits and sweeping through the game with no build-up.
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>>152111445
Can you acquire all the ships in-game? I heard some like the Javelin can't be bought (maybe found/salvaged).
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>>152110906
There is absolutely nothing in the game sold for real money that you can't get normally with in game money. That is the primary way it is set up, buying ships with real $$$ is just to help fund the game in its development.
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>>152111647
The mechanics aren't in stone yet, but my impression of things were that you could buy Javelins and Idris, it's just not common to find Idris for sale, and incredibly rare to find Javelins for sale. They're also very, very expensive and low utility, but a massive prestige thing to own.
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>>152111647
You are thinking of the Bengal, yeah that ship has never and will never be sold apparently, only stolen/salvaged.
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>>152110906
It's pretty P2W "now".
But NO WHERE near as bad as ArcheAge, Black Desert Online, etc...
Consider that once you disable/destroy a player's ship, they cannot immediately fly that ship again (and the insurance time elongates the more they die or where exactly they fly) and suffer monetary loss in ship equipment and cargo.
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>>152112091
Right now you can't even buy ships in game, so it's pretty irrelevant how "P2W" it is right now.
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CIG twitter finally hits 2k, but it's the image release thing isn't automated, and the web-guy went home for the day.

Somethings it's seems truly amazing that these people managed to scam 118 million dollars.
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>>152066791
if you're a literal idiot
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>>152112578
Top fucking lel, I was watching it click over

Proof the web guy went home?
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>>152112578
Still 6 to go desu senpai
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>>152112693
No idea really. But https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15457-Incoming-Transmission hasn't updated so I have to assume he left.
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>>152113024
It's not even at 2k yet.
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>>152113024
Those poor web guys are kinda mildly retarded anyway. They keep having so many problems with the site whenever anything at all happens. And it's still extremely user un-friendly.
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>>152110906
Nothing in the pledge store is exclusive, you will be able to acquire everything through normal play in the final version.

Buying ships does yield significant advantages though. If you own an Aurora and the other guy has a Hornet you can expect to get your shit pushed in real quick.
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>>152112578
Am I missing something?
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>>152097378
*but it was a hologram* the video
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>>152113290
It's over 2,000 now, no new image, so the shitposter was right.
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>>152113220
don't forget the ship stat pages, some of which haven't been updated in years
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germans are sleepin
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>>152107419

>yfw the new passenger liner is just a longer Orca
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>>152111397
ugh, it's not getting that table out of the floor thing is it? That's so ugly compared to the drop down circular table.
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So have we accepted that Star Citizen was just a big scam yet?
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>>152112091
>P2w

There's nothing to win, so it can't be pay to win.
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Is "carrick" the new meme misspelling since "hanger" went out of style?
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>>152114068
Eve Online is pay2win.
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>>152114123
>tfw all but one of them are me

I seem to be confusing the sailing ship with the Manchester United midfielder.
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>>152114068
(you)
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>>152105963
>Grey Area (aka Meatfucker)

Every time.
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>>152114305

What exactly can you win in this alpha test? Riddle me this.
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>>152113985
Probably. They tend to suck the fun out of things when they rework ships.
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>>152114463
>CLASSIFIED UPDATE (3/6)
>Additional retweets needed.
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>>152114463
at least you can sort of make out a ship now.
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>>152114795
Sandi must've engineered this.
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>>152114002
Still too busy calling NMS a scam atm.

The sad thing is, I genuinely don't think it's a scam. They really are just that bad at managing money and budgeting game development.
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>>152115030
>that bad
so bad they have 100 million and a shitload of content to roll out?
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>>152115030
90 days tops :^)
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>>152114795
did they at least reduce the number needed since it's clear people are getting fed up with this shit?
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>>152115275
t. derek
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>>152114337
desu if I was a machine will a brain the size of a couple cities, i'd mindrape meatlings too
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>>152090945
I've been absent from these threads for like a year now, and have just today started catching up on star citizen. Solo mining / salvaging was how I planned on starting off in the game. What is the prospector and why does it destroy my dreams?
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>>152115395
They went from 1k to...750
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>>152115430
Have fun being treated like a pariah by your peers until you """die""" into another dimension.
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>>152115395
>>152115530
Probably because it's late.
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>>152114463
dat clear double rocket pod turret on the right
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>>152115590
>implying I'd give a shit
the Minds can simulate entire universes in their heads and still have space to spare for everything else.
i'd be a AI-NEET
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>>152115745
Probably because they're pulling this 'bls gib retweets' shit for the third time now.
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>>152115894
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>>152115494
It's a 'solo' mining ship that requires an escort and a cargo ship following it at all time due to having worse weapons and shield than a starter Aurora and only being able to hold a relatively tiny amount of ore at a time (it's stat page lies and includes all of it's collapsible ore bags instead of just what the ship can actually carry at a time).

Also they stated ships need special hardpoints to equip mining lasers and processing equipment. So you're not going to be able to just slap one on your aurora or avenger and start mining away.
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>>152114463
There is just enough information to read something far more interesting then it probably is.
I am kinda seeing an asymmetrical wider then it is long ship, kinda reminiscent of something that team cyro made way back when.
Minus that big dumb shield.
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>>152114767
that interior just lacks all the character the other one has.

sure the grease or whatever splotches were poorly done, and a few of the floors clearly had textures flipped around on them, but when something looks old and run down you know that it's been places and done things.

A ship like that will be with you for the rest of your life.
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>>152115881
Honestly I probably would, too. Though torture and shit doesn't interest me. Interior made of giant piles of junk food, collecting useless information like anime and video games and developer drama.
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>>152116156
So you now need a dedicated ship to mine and the only solo ship is worthless, fantastic. Why does CIG hate fun? The whole reason I wanted to solo mine was because it seemed like a way to make money with little overhead. Once you got the right equipment the only thing cutting into profits is keeping the ship fueled. But I'm not buying an anemic piece a shit just so I can pay other people to finish the job for me. I guess I can still use my cutlass to find and carry salvage but I have a feeling that will be a less reliable form of money making.
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>>152116718
>>152114463
This is what I see. Picture something like the Crusader passenger liner, but more compact armoured and obviously fighter sized, because it's the Terrapin.
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>>152116946
Hopefully the other Constellations will have better interiors.
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>>152116946
I think the Constellation is supposed to be new in the star citizen universe, like 4 years old new. Although who knows what the fuck 4 years is supposed to mean in space. The Tauros should be clean but really barebones, so you can put all the wear and tear on it yourself.

Or you could buy used, I'm sure someone can dirty the hell out of a ship in 4 space years
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>>152117306
>they accidentally posted up the Buccaneer pics again
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>>152117192
How does mining work in SC? Mining laser and processing equipment sounds awfully familiar is all.
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>>152117683
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14522-Star-Citizen-Careers-Mining
enjoy
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>>152117554
I just hope that it's not the exact same interior as the Andromeda,. it's supposed to lack all the "bells and whistles" it should have a pretty stripped down inside, and the thing I saw was most certainly stripped down.
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>>152117306
Fug, some bozo on the forums has managed to cancel out the interference, its pretty clear now.
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>>152118060
looks like it's got some forward facing U shaped wings and a cockpit that sweeps over them.
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>>152118060
looks almost like some sort of ship flying over a landing zone shot from the top
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>>152117554
>>152118029
>tfw still happy with the Aquila
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>>152118187
Either that or it's actually facing the other way, and that large blue section is the thruster seen from behind.
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>>152117554
I thought the constellation had been around for a while, this was just the latest version? Keep in mind that some ships like the Gladius and the Retaliator have been around for centuries.
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>>152118276
seems odd to have a beauty shot of a ships ass.
Though what look like wings could be a landing pad like >>152118235 said.
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>Speed restrictions lifted. Oh-seven, Commander.
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>>152118414
It's also the "most popular" that tends to take a while.

I'm wondering what the chances are that they'll have skins for run down versions.

Who wouldn't want to turn their pristine pretty ship into a flying shithole?
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>>152118513
>watching an RTV
>at the end Roberts says "oh sevens in the chat, guys"
>triggered
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part of me hopes this stupid retweet shit blows up in their face

but the other part knows CIG cocksuckers will just keep doing it
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>>152118437
This is the alternative ship I can see, the blue section being a bubbly kind of cockpit
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>>152118513
>>152118648
I thought that was an Elite forumdad thing. Did it bleed over into SC?
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I quit playing Elite Dangerous a few months ago.

Has anything changed, or is there fun stuff to do now that will take my mind off of the fact that I'm just grinding new gear to no end?
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>>152118673
Why/how could it "blow up in their face"? It's just a silly exercise to keep people occupied before they reveal all the new shit on friday, it's not like this is even the first time they've done exactly this.

Sounds like you are taking this shit way too seriously, Hitler.
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>>152118752
Oh, I can see that, I figured that bit on the right was the top of the thrusters, but with how you've outlined it I can totally see it as a cannon. A big ass cannon.

I'd like an asymmetrical wing ship, I think.
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>>152118630
That' my hope for the Aquila. I want to make it a rust bucket that's been out exploring way too long, flown by a lazy fuck who can't be asked to pay for upkeep as long as it's just surface wear.
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the ED gamescom vid is private now. anyone have a new link?
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new:

>>152118957
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>>152118752
There's a landing gear right below your circle, so that wouldn't work.
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>>152118818
Yeah, I've seen it a lot more recently.
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>>152119037
Where?
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>>152118818
No idea what it means, but Chris is an OG elite dad, just the most successful one ever who went on to make his own spess games.
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>>152118752
that's literally just the reliant.
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>>152118060
>Probably a Reliant variant
God damn it, everyone was hoping for the Terrapin.
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>>152118673
There's at least few people on the forums and reddit that are annoyed about it.
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>>152119542
It's the 90% Terrapin, we are just trying to work out its shape.
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>>152024663
That's a WE WUZ SPACE
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>>152119542
>Haha. That thing before was just a ship we intentionally built wrong as a joke. Here's the real Reliant.
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>>152024663
seriously does look like him
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>>152109273
>aim

you don't need perfect aim right out of the tube
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>>152114002
Chris is off the rails and he knows it. He's been out of the video game industry for so long he's more or less just the grand idea's guy.

His brother on the other hand is trying his damndest to get us a playable fucking game
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