/scg/, /edg/: Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous General

GAMESCOM SOON

>>151758025
>>151757364

Small corridors and coffin hotels make sense from a logical point of view, but they play like shit.

Want as few tiny spaces as possible.

I expect this thread to be fast, so next thread I'll make Gamescom edition.

>>151758183
b-but muh wasted space!

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nth for doctor smort

I just want a first person EVE: Online.
Is that so much to ask?

>>151758586
Of course it is you silly shit

>>151758586
Well technically there is Eve Valkyrie. Except that's a tech demo for VR gimmick and nothing more.

>>151758282

One like. Could he not bribe someone in his family or something like that to like his post?

>>151758586
Weren't they making an eve themed arcade-y space sim?

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>>151757932
>3 german news magazines are now reporting about Derek's harassment

Must be nazi genes or something

I am thinking about getting a combat vessel, is the diamondback explorer any good?

>>151758282
Well, looks like he personally made himself into an ex-developer as a first step ;^)

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>>151758183
It's funny that the only ship that actually has private cabins is a prisoner transport.

>>151758183
>Small corridors and coffin hotels make sense from a logical point of view, but they play like shit.
I absolutely agree on the corridors, but the sleeping coffins would simply be the logout/save points, or places where NPC go when they are 'off duty'

Not an area where you ru naround in, fight in when you get boarderd or whatever.

It'd be better to have a sort of 'community area' with a few tables etc. for just goofing around in etc.

>>151760343
>Private cabins
>Transparent-walled cells that no player will ever be in

rero

FED UP seeing the other guys and gals walk off with the BEST of EVERYTHING? Tired of your stupid JOB, of being overtaken by your peers, of lacking the willpower to get the things you want... of being HALF ALIVE?

I know how it is BECAUSE I TOO was once an under- achiever. Hard to believe that of Cliff Ganymede — Best Selling Author; Decorated War Hero; Clinically-Recognised Supertaster; Zinc Magnate. But it's true. I dithered. I put stuff off. I failed to KNUCKLE DOWN. That's because I didn't know I was Elite. Now, let me tell you a secret: everybody can be Elite. You're already ELITE! You just don't realise it yet. Elite. Say the word out loud with your mouth. Think about what it really means.

Each one of us has unlimited potential.
Life is there to be L-I-V-E-D
I isn't a dirty word — put yourself first.
Time is now!
Each one of us has unlimited potential. (It bears repeating.)

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>>151758790
>>151758943
>>151759397
Not necessarily an EVE-clone but a space sim with the levels of social interaction that EVE has.

Why the fuck are both E:D and SC this shitty "you are just a small, insignificant person in a big galaxy :^))))" with artificial limits of what players can do.

The glorious thing about EVE is the options available to a player.
You can be an insignificant hauler if you want OR you could be one of the most powerful leaders on this side of New Eden.

It's so frustrating, Elite could have lots of potential if Frontier wasn't run by forumdads.

>>151758183
Considering that people outright live in their ships, not having private cabins is insane with the size of these ships. It seems not even the CAP SHIPS have cabins, it's fucking mad.

>>151760605
Because EvE's player agency directly leads to teamfights that involve hundreds and hundreds of players which aren't sustainable in a first-person or direct-control environment.

>>151760440
A can of spray paint fixes the transparent problem and a hammer fixes the lock part.

It's still better than sleeping in the retailator's crew compartment.

>>151760605
Organizations will play a role in this game (SC). We will have to wait and see to what extent that is, but CR knows that player interaction is key to longevity.

Why is the Reliant shit-tier again? It looked fucking cool to me.

>>151762871
Terrible maneuverability + massive profile + shitty guns + shitty survivability make for a less than useful vehicle thats only notable characteristic is "I can change flight modes!"

>>151762871

Well as usual people are driven to exaggeration. But it clearly dont have the cargo space advertised, it also have a fairly massive profile and it is so broad that its hard to imagine fixed guns will be able to hit smaller ships simultaneously.

>>151763478
>>151763596

God dammit. Back to waiting for a cool ship worth grinding for to make its way out of the woodwork again.

https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/764889244456275968

>>151763478
The guns aren't that bad. 2xS3 2xS1s is actualy quite nice for a 65 dollar ship. But they're all on those huge, fragile as fuck wings and you can't hit shit with them because yaw basically doesn't exist for the Reliant in vertical mode.

There's also been alot of unanswered questions about how the Reliant could possibly hold the 30 units of cargo its stated to carry.

>>151765334
Cargo and the fragile wings are a fair point but its not hard to hit stuff with the guns if you just roll and pitch and use the yaw to supplement that. I am not sure how to describe it but I usually end up yawing out of a roll when lining up a target, it works well.

>>151758282
I'm pretty sure none of them work in the shitposting industry though

>>151765743
No, I get it, use normal flight sim maneuvers. But no other ship in SC has yaw this bad, and a vertical reliant is the absolutely *last* ship Id expect to have weak yaw movement. The big ass space oil tanker literally turns faster.

>>151765334
>>151765743
Is it true that if one of the wings go, it's impossible to fly?

Does this happen to other ships as well?

I havent ever gotten any fly time, just keeping track of the game.

Daily reminder that No Man's Grind was a $15 game that got AAA-tier recognition through sheer shilling power

>>151768232
If you lose a wing in space, you tend to just lose what you had attached to that wing. I havent flown all the ships but weapons are a common thing.

However if you lose one in an atmospheric environment, i imagine you will probably be dying soon.

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I HAVE ORDERED THE DELAY OF SQUADRON 42 UNTIL 2018

THE ROBERTS MUST OBEY MY BRILLIANT LUMINESCENCE

UNLEASH THE POWER OF THE SUN

Is this game supposed to take an hour to load into multiplayer?

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>it's a I get chased down by a sabre I can't get away from in my avenger episode

and even if I turn to fight he just fucks off at max speed everytime

>>151768232
Yes, since it has maneuvering thrusters mounted on the wingtips. On other ships you tend to only lose weapons because the thrusters are mounted closer to the center.

>>151768663
delete this

>>151768232
It varies by ship. But losing a wing in a reliant means you lost half your firepower and of half your mav thrusters.

any infos about the upcoming event and preload?

have slow internet and have to test the game when we have the free flight

>>151768663
Was a kickstarter really shut down because the dev said the sun made them

>>151769320
So why the fuck... Would they make it so easy to destroy? Sounds like an awful design choice.

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>>151769369

>>151767542
It makes sense from a physics perspective but yeah it should not yaw more poorly then the star fairer.

>>151768232
I can fly the reliant enough to land at cry-astro with one wing, just barely, but if you lose both or both thruster blocks are damaged you are done.
You can't even get out of your seat and bail because you have to be at stop to get up and there is no way to arrest you motion.

>>151769369
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1820893788/katalyka/posts/239764

If you look through the rest of the updates, apparently the crazy bitch finished it.

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>>151769624
Also >>151769369


so basically, she was fucking insane

>>151769729
>Ever since about December, I've been harassed by a voice that is claiming to be the sun, and its been attacking me and harassing me almost every hour of the day.

>This is the best way I can explain what I am going through... if anyone has any advice or can offer help with this problem, it was not really what I was hoping for and it was very much NOT what I was told making this game was going to be like last year when I started working on it:

>Voice says: "The sun doesn't want you to publish Katalyka, because it wants to be almost exactly LIKE Katalyka, but it keep it all a secret. If you publish your game, it is going to let people in on too many secrets." (paraphrasing)

>My response: The giant glowing mass of hydrogen that lights up our entire planet with heat and color wants to remain a secret?

I thought mandalore's video was making a joke holy fuck what is wrong with people

>>151769857
That's a classic schizo hopefully a family member or friend will get him to see a doctor.

>>151758586
Eve is shit tho.

t. someone who played Eve for too long.

>>151769729
Is it just me or is she apparently naked on her pic?

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>what a lovely day, flying around a planet being torn apart exploding star in my new ship.
>Oh look, here comes some vanduuls. I wonder if they have anything to trade?

I wish a slav would add erectile dysfunction to homeworld

>>151771358
Would not tap.

>>151771358
fucking gross

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>tfw participating in civil war for the first time

>>151771358
Is that a kitchen or an autopsy room?

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>>151771131
>Ahhh! Those brutes shot off my thruster!

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You ever think about how much the Anaconda looks like a Narn carrier?

>>151771025
People backed this? >>151771358


How could they not see the crazy?

>>151771467
>>151771526
>>151771870
>>151772010
I found the picture on her devianttart.

>>151771984
An arrowhead is a pretty generic design.

>>151771973
>Th reliant emerges.jpg

Also
>super fragile and wide wings
>super exposed main thrusters

This ship is terrible. It's a shame they spent so long making something that's no more than an NPC ship.

>>151772207
The top-down shot in particular though, with the second bulge in the middle.

>>151771358
She seems pretty fucking naked in her profile picture.

https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1820893788

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>>151771973
>Oh drat. There goes a wing. Now I can't steer my ship.

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>>151772695
>well, at least I have a nice view as I die...

>>151772886
So, you're just left going straight until you die?

That sounds like easily the worst ship in the game.

>>151772886
>EM
>1800
Why does it have twice the EM signature of a Constellation?

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>>151772605
?

>>151772497

I really like the idea of having ships in the game that are not military ships.

I would like to see more multi-purpose ships with their own living quarters, the Buccaneer was a disappointment in this regard.

Optimistic for the Aurora/Cutlass/300i reworks though, as well as the Herald.

>>151771358
>>151769369
>>151769624
I like her

>>151773810
She is fucking hideous.

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>first roll hit this

thank you rngesus

>>151771358
I'd fuck it. If she wasn't crazy, that is.

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>>151767375

So after looking at some of the videos from No mans sky and hearing the devs blather my instincts told me to stay away from it.

Yet still desperate for some space "action" i installed Elite dangerous again.

So, what do?

I have a Vulture and 1.9 million spacebucks and havent touched the game in 12-16 months. Where is the fun at?

>>151771358
3/10 if genetic girl
5/10 if trap

>>151759682
Its not a combat vessel. You can use it as one and is cheap to outfit

Vipers, vulture, dropships,fdl, eagle. In no paticular order.

>>151775883
You did right, NMS doesn't have much in the way of action, and what little it does have has poor mechanics.

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>>151775965
>>151759682

>>151776081

Yeah. And it annoys me a lot.

I was in the mood for a good space game.

>>151776251
Same. desu, I expected the space combat in NMS to be at least on E:D's level and be a fun interlude to exploration, but no, it blows.

>>151772497
Also the ridiculous but often over looked problem with the Reliant... You literally can not leave your seat in vertical mode, nor does it have an ejection option.

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>>151776398
>>151776251
Same same, though I expected the combat to be more akin to the simplicity of Freelancer.

Game feels like a tech demo you'd send to investors to explain that you need more time.

It's been a long time since I regretted pirating something.

>>151776792
desu, I'm satisfied with walking around, exploring samey worlds and unlocking tech so far. Don't know how long it'll last.
The 18 quintillions world is such bullshit though, I've already found 3 worlds that were p much the same with just a different sky color.

So Horizons, Yay or Nay?

I got the original game, should i pay more for the expansion?

I understand you can explore moons, what else is there?

>>151777135
I might have just been indifferent about it if it didn't routinely dip to single digit FPS and occasionally crash. On a rig with a 1080 that runs Elite maxed at 70-100fps in 1440p.

>>151777542
You can upgrade your ship with engineers. Like going from F to A rating all over again.

>>151776792
>Regretted pirating something

Jesus christ this. Last game to do that to me was Bioshock Infinite, but at least that game didn't control like asshole. I have buyer's remorse and I didn't even pay for the game. I can't play with controller because it's like I'm in that Polygon doom video. I can't play mouse because flight is terrible.

>>151777542
You can get some more RNG with engineers. Horizons is pretty shit. I regret paying for 15 dollars for it. Driving on empty planets is not enjoyable. The SRV controls like shit and takes damage to the slightest touch.

>>151777542
So, I was playing Elite: Dangerous - Horizons in the past few days, and I found a planet, with a mountain in a crater. I figured I’d be “Crazy”, and land on the top of the Mountain, so I did.

I was there, landed a few minutes, dozens of lightyears from anywhere, and this twinkly piano piece began to play. Looking out, over the majesty of stars, sitting so Small and alone, I admit that I teared up a little. I did. I was overcome by it all.

It’s incredible that the life’s work of a Cambridge scholar, to create a believable simulation of our galaxy, has all but come true. And it’s only going to get more real. Imagine the next generation of Quantum computing, a Thousand times faster than modern Machines. Though most likely, some of that will be swallowed up by larger displays with Higher resolutions.

Still, The Stars My Destination.

>>151777632
Yeah. And a lower price tag wouldn't hurt.
At this point in playing it, I wouldn't mind buying it on -33% or -50% sale. Especially if they fix the framerate issues. I mean, I've seen the video of it running just fine on an nVidia Shield, my computer's way better than that crap, damnit.

>>151776792
>>151777791
Supreme Ruler Ultimate, my m80s. I had buyer's remorse just by looking at the download bar slowly filling.

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>>151777871

>>151777542
You can unlock engineers to mod your ships with longer jump ranges, faster boosts, more powerful weapons, etc. Coming "soon" is 2.2 with ship launched fighters like the condor as well as passenger missions that actually make the Orca useful. The other two passenger ships, Dolphin and Beluga, might come with but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Eventually there will be volcanic activity on worlds, comets, multiple players in one ship, and maybe Aliens, but that's a ways off. Unless you have money burning a hole in your pocket and just have to land on planets, I'd wait. The content they have out right now is not worth regular price I'd say.

Okay an anon asked for this yesterday.
Here is a x52 (pro, I don't know if it will matter.) profile for both Star Citizen and the Saitek profile editor.
Both profiles are needed to work together.

http://pastebin.com/bCdFkAKq
This is the SC xml profile, download, rename appropriately as a .xml and place in StarCitizen\<Public or Test>\USER\Controls\Mapping.
You will need to import it in game.

http://pastebin.com/1nfrRLNf
This is the Saitek profile, download, rename appropriately as a .pr0 and place in C:\Users\Public\Documents\SmartTechnology Profiles
You will need to load it in the by right clicking on the x52 tray icon and selecting it from the available profiles.

This is a work in progress for me as I muster the will to polish it. But the saitek profile might give somebody a head start on making their own profile.
There are a few problems with the set up right now that are beyond my control like that fact that SC will not let me rebind the mouse function for launch counter measures to a keyboard one.
Also some other things to note, Mode 1 is a default, unbidden, with no clutch, with the mouse nub disabled. (This is so I can turn off the nub when it decides to freak out when I am working.) Mode 2 is a default, unbidden, with no clutch, with the mouse nub enabled, this is for Elite Dangerous. And Mode 3 is the Star Citizen set up with key macros linking to the mostly standard SC keyboard controls with a clutch enabled with the pinky trigger.

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How would you make Elite Dangerous better?

>>151779361
ban dads

>>151779361
Ban anyone over 30.

>>151772497

It's designs like the Reliant that make me want some of ED's blocky designs. The Cobra might be an ugly dorito but it's all sloped armor and recessed engines.

>>151779690
Age doesn't determine daddage, attitude does. There are plenty over 30 (myself included) that think dads are cancer, play in open, and welcome pvp. And there are plenty of much younger carebears who have the same mindset as dads.

>>151779361
Add more ways to rice out ships.
Turn the game into a ship blinging simulator.

>>151779361
Fire Sandro and half their staff. Hire a competent team. Find a publisher to actually give us money to actually work on features. Whore ourselves out properly with micro transactions while being fair nobody needs a fucking bobblehead for example, but it can be cheaper, find the best price ratio server solution and implement that in game.

Actually, why not just make Star Citizen

>>151777791
>The SRV controls like shit

It drives the wrong way around. I ended up learning to drive backwards with the turret and pretty much entirely stopped doing donuts or sliding down grades almost immediately. The fucking thing can roll over bigger rocks without damage and climb up nearly 90 degrees as long as it's going backwards.

>>151780467
>Need to go backwards so it doesn't drive like shit

What in the fuck?

>>151780660

Almost all the vehicle's mass is in the ass end. Whoever designed it doesn't know shit about literal balance.

>>151779361
I havent really played much of ED but something cool would be maybe a battle ground type match of two opposing factions. The style would be pretty similar to battlefront 2 space battles and you are limited to smaller ships that launch from your factions colossal super carrier. No on foot boarding battles because i dont think ED has that type of stuff.

The objective of course would be to destroy the opposing teams carrier. Maybe even include several gunnery positions you can switch to while docked in the hangar.

I dont know if it would be an improvement but it could be something to break up the grind?

>>151780979
So, CQC?

>>151781354
Like I said, I havent really played ED that much. I think I got an eagle and quit. Whats CQC outside of Metal Gear Solid references?

>>151781526
It's ED's arena combat. Small area and you fly around in the smallest ships fighting each other in various modes. It was quite literally DOA.

>>151780979
You should plat angels fall first

>>151781974
Has CIG said anything about polishing the IFCS

>>151773302
>aurora
don't remember it being scheduled for that

>cutlass
will wait for

>300 series
unsalvageable.

>>151773302
We'll get a new ship at Gamescom. It may or may not be the Terrapin.

>>151779361
Release all of game files for modding.

To fix all of the issues in E:D would basically be remaking the game itself.

>>151783030
It will absolutely be the Terrapin.

>>151776180
The scout is still not a combat vessel.

Its okay but a viper is better. Now if you just wanna dick around with agility eagle.

If for some bizare reason you need agility and jump range sure the scout fits the bill but its paper thin armor and shields arent doing you any favors.

The courier....is oddly better. Its got slight heat issues but its small, agile, 3 medium hardpoints 4 utility slots. Shit armor but strong shields. Id put it about even with the viper.

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>>151783030
>>151783262

This sounds like a stupid ship †bh, but much like how the Dragonfly has had some changes to the design philosophy, I'm hoping the Terrapin becomes the medium mining ship at around 80 - 110m. "Long range surveying" sounds retarded, especially considering we already have the 300 series exploration ship Carrack, the Taurus, the DUR, and the Endeavor. Every size slot for exploration has been filled already. Mining still needs a medium.

This thread needs more ships.....maybe even a theme like this thread is scout/patrol ships and next thread is frigates.

Just an idea to kick around. I want to see more giant engines strapped to cockpits. Maybe even an ork vessel.

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>>151783831
I might as well post them all.

>>151783831
anon, it was supposed to be a starter ship. There is no way it's going to be even 50m+.

Apart from that, it's not even a dedicated mining ship, just that people like to use it as one because of its armor.

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>>151783995
It's you again

>>151784450
No need to be sad. Ill go back to lurking if you keep on posting.

>>151781974
Huh. Never heard of that game but it looks like it may be able to give me my battlefront 2 fix...

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>>151784919

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Which game has the closest approximation of a 'Zig', and can I move it for great justice?

>>151783352
>The scout is still not a combat vessel.

lolwut

The DBS is a better combat ship than the Viper MkIII in all respects. Faster, more maneuverable, better hardpoint layout, bigger internal space, higher hull hardness (resists small weapons well, and some mediums somwhat). It also has more hull and shields, not less. Then there's its miniscule heat signature that makes you hard to target.

And the jump range? Luxurious.

It's the go-to fighter until you can afford a Vulture.

>The courier....is oddly better.

It's a miniature tank with those shields and has the highest straight line acceleration of any ship in the game. The problem with boom and zoom jousting though is that the weapons in ED aren't particularly suited to that style of combat. You can run rails or PAs but that's about it, else a different ship would be more suitable.

>>151785241
You forgot the DBS' ultra miniscule landing footprint on planets thanks to the landing gear placement.

>>151779828
Despite being THE dad ship I like the Cobra. It's kind of oddly sleek in a blocky as shit kind of way. Also it's fucking cheap so zero shits are given if I get it blown up.

>>151779361
- Orrery system map
- Improved wars with mini-missions. Destroy the supply convoy, hit the ammo depot, recon this well-defended base. The military can lend you vessels to fly for the duration of the combat. If you steal it they chase you until they destroy you (no insurance). Give medals for achieving shit during the war.
- Improved exploring. Maybe solar flare dodging to make jumping less sleep inducing.
- More ship differentiation. EVE-style bonuses to certain modules for some ships.

>>151780164
This. Get rid of the RNG shit and let me do shit like swap out the fuel injectors and ionisation manifold in my engines for more thrust.

>>151783056
This anon is probably right in the end though.

>>151785241
>It's a miniature tank with those shields and has the highest straight line acceleration of any ship in the game. The problem with boom and zoom jousting though is that the weapons in ED aren't particularly suited to that style of combat. You can run rails or PAs but that's about it, else a different ship would be more suitable.
You certainly notice those shields when you fight one in a RES or CZ. Takes so fucking long to take them down, but once their down the hull just melts. The biggest problem with the Courier is the hardpoint placement. I found two fixed lasers on the left+middle or right+middle can work. But otherwise you really have to use gimbals or seekers.

>>151785714
You could fix exploration (for me anyhow) by adding a 0 to the base payouts and making systems pay more dependant on how far from the bubble(s) they are.

>>151786201

Imperial ships in general just have bad hardpoint layouts because they insist on sticking them on goddamn pontoons on all of them.

>>151783831
Since that, they've released a new mining ship and said they want mining to be more of an involved group effort. The terrapin will be re-purposed for something else.

>>151786498

Yeah 10-12K for a planet made of solid gold or 50-70K for discovering an earthlike planet you could go live on right now is bullshit. Why would anyone sell the data that cheap when they could claim the whole thing for themselves?

>>151786498
That would make it more profitable which would be good.

I wish that they hadn't gone with the one button push ADS system. Something like using supercruise parallax to find things would have been nice. Or having a use for sensors in exploration, needing to do orbital cruise passes to map the surface. Lots of options, maybe not all compatible with their server/database system but something could have been done surely.

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>know a guy who's utter shit at SC Swarm/AC matches
>buddy goes on and on and on about how you need a HOTAS to play SC properly.
>he buys this $500 A-10 setup
>lords it over us in voicecoms
>Fast forward a few weeks, we all finally update the client to 2.4.
>He's constantly getting BTFO'd by npc pirate spawns that I usually just tear through non-issue (he's in a Super Hornet)
>Spawn him a Sabre after he calls my ship OP
>same results.
>Nigger is now in the process of buying pedals and a vive

How do whales rationalize this shit?

>>151786579
Yep. In one of the forum threads about the iEagle someone said "They should put two of the guns in the nacelles like other Imp ships"
No, fuck off. The iEagle is the only Imp ship with decent hardpoint layout and that's only cause someone else designed it and Gutamaya only tinkered with it.

>>151787016
Post purchase rationalization. Sad thing is, game'll get balanced for him.

Anyone got a spare dreadnought beta key?

>>151787016
VR seems to make pretty games look better.

>stickfagging
>peddals

He probably thinks spending more money will make him a good pilot.

>>151787016
Someone needs to redo that "muh dik" image with "muh hotas".

>>151787016
Think of him as the one helping those products to the mass-market stage.

It doesn't make him less retarded, but at least you'll still be able to treat him nicely.

>>151787557
I wouldnt mind HOTAS and VR for immersion sake. Mouse and keyboard do have their benefits though.

>>151787016
>Warthog Hotas

Fuck I want one of those. I'm not about to drop 500 on a HOTAS right now though.

>>151770424
t. miner

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>>151785714
Braben actually talked about adding an Orrery map at the end of Horizon's season if there was time. Seeing how delayed 2.2 is I doubt that will happen though.

>>151790719
I can't imagine why it's so hard. I mean you basically fly through an orrery map while in supercruise. FDev must be hard at work adding more RNG I guess.

>>151787557
>>151790243
The real problem is SC dose not and will not support vr in the foreseeable future.
Chris might say he is all for vr but he values the cinamaitc character animations that take away player control and make vr unviable to much.

>>151790908
Didn't some people get some hackjob working for VR? Or was that trackIR stuff?

>>151790908
The procedual planets guys are also the VR guys so until they are done with their tasks and whatever else they have to do don't expect VR

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Why does ED even have these systems that are so far away, they should implement a system into which star you want to warp to in the system. It would save so much time.

>>151790843
Maybe they have to change or gut some of the current gameplay to implement it. I would honestly prefer it if they removed the current implementation of USS's and made it so when the map comes out signals spawn in certain parts of the system for everyone in there, rather than just shit that spawns randomly right in front of you. Or maybe the dev team is just incompetent.

>>151791247
inb4 dad pasta

>>151791247
>Why does ED even have these systems that are so far away
It's realistic.
>they should implement a system into which star you want to warp to in the system.
Yep.
>It would save so much time.
And this is the problem. Too much of the fanbase loves the time it takes to do shit. At least in Eurotruck Simulator you have to watch the road.

>>151791045
Yeah, some people got VR working. Can't comment on the quality, though I suspect it sucks.

>>151770424
Someone wasnt in goonswarm

>>151790719
Hey that's pretty good

>>151791526
>Maybe they have to change or gut some of the current gameplay to implement it.
Possibly, but I think a orrery map showing your current location would help the player feel in the system. They could plot courses to bounce between planets while exploring to minimise time depending on what side of the sun the planet is on rather than just selecting the nearest unknown.

>Or maybe the dev team is just incompetent.
Certainly fucking Sammarco at the least.

>>151760120
Not that he ever truly developed anything

>>151791558
I still never understood the systems where you travel 50k ls or so and find another star surrounded by planets.....why isnt that a seperate fucking system?

>>151792269
There was discussion about in system jumping to other stars. I assume it's not even a consideration right now.

>>151779361
add ships that arent just fucking geometric shapes jfc

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new meme

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>>151792583

>>151792583
Why is there a butterfly tail on the wing?

>>151792269
50k ls still isn't very far. That said it's just how a quirk of how the galaxy generator works. There's at least one case where two separate systems are closer together than the stars in a binary system which is considered one star system by the game.

If they introduced micro-jumps it would help clear this quirk up.

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>>151792583
>the reliant is the new cutlass

Outfitting SRV's when?

>>151793175
Since its ftroop thatll be 60 dollars or never going to get passed dad QA

>>151792776
The winglets pop out after you exit landing mode.

>>151795421
True. All the dads that did the Hutton run will be up in arms.
"I stared at a screen for an hour and I am proud of my ability to watch paint dry. Others should be forced to do the same".

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>>151794008
DELETE THIS

I kind of miss the look of the older Idris. Hopefully the Polaris can satisfy our need for a main command ship or something.

>>151795870
Im suprised they didnt complain about drones...they were so adamant about making mining even shittier.

Still trying to figure out the smallest viable mining ship in korean grindfest.

>>151794008
Why are all the best ships implemented so badly?

>>151796803
How could you make mining shittier. Originally it was kind of like EVE mining but more annoying with having to pick-up bits all the time and with none of the actual connection to the economy that EVE mining has.

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>>151796754
forgot pic

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>>151797194
Fat Idris looks much better (spaceshiply speaking) then the old Idris. Feels like a proper fighter carrying frigate.

>>151796896
Did you have to pick up 1/3 of a ton individually then sort it in a refinery making only small ships viable?

Its only slightly better now with the drones and mining missions.

>>151796803
>Im suprised they didnt complain about drones

Oh you naive young-in. FD proposed/planned to make mining even more streamlined and automated, which caused a dad shitstorm in the Gulag. That's how we ended up with the half-assed solution we have today.

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>>151797576
I did mining before drones for maybe 10 mins before deciding that it was fucked.

I just want to slap one of these on an asteroid or moon and then come back later when it's full. Though maybe a smaller one than the one in the picture.

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>>151797549
Well, the new Idris is going to be a lot more useful for carrying fighters and shit, but I simply miss the slenderness of the old Idris. It had cool turrets and everything.

I'm a rabid fan of small-but large military vehicles, so smaller than things like destroyers but larger than fighters with OK weapons and (relatively) high maneuverability, so corvettes fit my fancy perfectly. I really just want to be part of a little battlegroup with the centerpiece being a Corvette. Hyped for org shit tbqhfamilia. I want to fuck up some orgs stuff and watch the salt role down into petty warfare.

>>151798168
I remember dads being upset over tractor beam proposals. That mentality needs to die already

>>151798201
>Secret mining location
>takes up an actual location on a planet, will be there in open even if you did it in solo
>if someone discovers it, however unlikely, they can loot what youve earned

>>151787709
muh stick nigguh

>>151792583
>every ship should fly like a quake game
you went too fast and turned too late.

>>151792460
What geometric shape is a corvette?

>>151795430
What purpose do they serve?

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what's the point of 'light' fighters anyway

shit like the gladius will probably never maneuver fast enough to avoid fire from S3 ballistic guns that every medium fighter has

and when the biggest shit you have is 3x S2 tarantulas well

>>151798298
Is there even a combat-oriented corvette?

>>151793175
>There's at least one case where two separate systems are closer together than the stars in a binary system which is considered one star system by the game.

At least one case? The galactic core is absolutely flooded with systems less than 0.22ly from each other, which is the distance between Alpha/Beta Centauri and Proxima in the Alpha Centauri system. Examples literally number in the millions.

in the end, what will star citizen be?

>>151798895

They didn't even want hopper auto-allocation. They wanted you to manually move every fragment to a refinery bin as it came in.

>>151796854
Well cig knows they have a problem with the cutlass, honestly I can see them just making it harder for parts to come off on all ships in general.
Even if it makes sense that bits come off there is a practicality difference between losing some hard points and your entire propulsion pack.

With the way they want to imperilment short term ship repairs, I.e. the star trek way of everything being internal they are going to have to toughen the structures and components of the ships up and say that most damage that is incurred it forced inwards in to the ships "pipes" doing its toll there.
The line between a part is not operational and a part is gone is razor thin on a more ships then just the cutlass and reliant.

>>151802037

a game with nice ideas that are poorly implemented and a retarded playerbsee

but the flying will probably be fun at least

>>151800760
Are they cheaper? That's pretty much why they exist in real-life isn't it?

>>151801964
Forgot about the core. Someone found one in the bubble, that must be what I remembered.

>>151802037
freelancer 4.0

>>151802768

In real life a light fighter generally has the advantage of bring cheaper and more agile in a knife fight since bigger fighters can't just decouple and fuck you up

>>151803071
Faster and cheaper might be good. At least then the light fighters can run from what they can't fight.

>>151799514
Hell even if they made them only appear to the owner (or friends in wing) it would be fine. I don't think FDev's server/database is up to the job of making stuff like this shareable.

>>151802332

Stuff like this makes me appreciate how tough ED ships are. You pretty much have to fire right up the thruster ports to do significant damage to the engines on most ships, and they can still take a fair bit of punishment.

So excuse me, how close is Star Citizen to being done?

Me and a friend got triggered by how bad NMS was, and we resolved to make EVE in first person, but now that I look at Star Citizen it seems like it's pretty far along, despite the memers claiming scam.

So will this be done soon? Cuz I don't want to go through the trouble of making first person EVE if this game will do it for me.

What is best trade route ever in ED?

>>151805827
ask again in 2017 and find out if 2.6 and 2.7 properly released the FPS component, procedural world component, and framerate fix for the online game

>>151787016
>super hornet
>HOTAS

lol

>>151806495
How do gimbals and sticks work these days? M+KB was the best way to fly gimbal gun ships last time I checked in on SC.

>>151805827
Gonna be a while still. Big updates should be happening around fall/winter. Pay attention to next week when gamescom happens, we hopefully will see some good shit.

Is there a complete guide to powerplay and faction rep grinding for gay retards?

Is the Imperial Hammer as cool as it sounds?

>>151806674
Depends on what you got. Some people use hats. If I wanted to use gimbal I could potentially use the mini joystick on my CH throttle

>>151806674
If you fly stick it's best to avoid using gimbals

ded

Selling 34 Palladium and 161 gold to Qwent grants you a whole six (6) percent progress at level 1.


Turns out there's specific commodities he wants. Fuck.

so How bout that space?

Do combat bonds give rep? If so, is it worthwhile to go get my shit pushed in?

>>151810369
Combat bonds should give rep. I always found CZs more annoying than RES though. RES you can just pile on with the cops for easy kills.

Does the automatic "Plot route" thing pay any attention to the filters you have on the map?

>>151779361
Add in planetary landing/invasion missions with the ability to give fire support to ground units from low orbit.

Also add in an orbit mechanic

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>>151812012
>Even a Small Plasma Accelerator will destroy a well armed hundred tonne ship with a single shot. The large version has been known to be used as a planetary assault weapon, destroying selected areas of cities from orbit. This has a devastating effect on the local population, because the terrifying noise of the beam cutting through the atmosphere can be heard for hundreds of kilometers, and will deafen anyone unprotected in the vicinity.
Man the old description for plasma accelerators was awesome.

>>151779361

>replace p2p with dedicated servers
>make missions worth running
>make mining worthwhile
>separate solo, private and open universes

Thats honestly all they ever needed to do to make ED half-decent

ED:H 2.2 when?

>>151813953
I expect they will give some details at GameCon or whatever the name of that upcoming event is.

>>151813953

What's going to be in the 2.2 anyway? Avatars? Ship launched fighters and multi-crew?

>>151814205
2 features in one expansion anon? Lol no.
2.2 Guardians is ship-launched fighters... and that's all.

>>151800687
They look neat.

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Haven't followed SC for like a year. Doesn't look like there's anything new in that time. When's persistence and a point to play the game?

VISION BUMP

>>151816531
look harder faggot are you fucking blind

>>151817047
Do tell, anon. I see nothing new.

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>>151816531
read
>>151817047


Persistence was added in the last update


Do you guys think they'll start streaming Star Marine/2.6 Wednesday? Flying in streamers and paying for food/hotel just to stream 2.5 is rather expensive.

>>151757932

Thinking about getting Elite Dangerous with the DLC but the mixed reviews are putting me off, Should I get it?

>>151818042
Watch some gameplay vids and then decide. ED's sound and sense of flying in the ships is quite good. Unfortunately the missions, trade, bounty hunting, mining, exploration etc. are fairly shallow and get predictable pretty quickly.

>>151817976

They have lots of money, and love spending it on stupid shit.

Trying to outfit a viper 4 with railguns is suffering

>>151783352
>viper better than DBS
>when DBS is faster
>more agile
>that jump range
>and has FOUR utility mounts
>Courier not superior than viper
>when it is faster
>more agile
>those shields
>and has FOUR utility slots

yeah no. Viper is alright but it's an entry level fighter

>>151818891
What's hard about it? Power?

So what can I do in SC right now?

From what I understand its:

>Walk in a stupid hangar and look at your $40-$10,000 meme
>Fly (Some of) your $40-10,000 memes


Is there anything to do? Like long term? Because I understand that it's aiming to be basically EVE in first person, from what I've read. But in EVE you could trade, do arcs, fight groups of players, etc, but is there anything like that yet?

I don't want to buy a $40 meme until there's a reason to.

>>151819318
did you just come here to shitpost? fuck off. a youtube search would show you what's in game right now.

>>151819412
Scott Manlet hasn't made a video on it in a while. I don't feel like looking up some literal who trying to play the game on their integrated graphics i3.

>>151818042
Get it when it's on sale. Don't pay full price.

>>151819109
Yeah, have to gut everything else.

>>151819318
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/feature-list
literally on the front page of the site

>>151819713
Post build. Maybe someone has some ideas.

I want commander creator so I can create my space waifu in a skintight bodysuit

>>151780138
>dad supports other dads
Colour me surprised.

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>>151820165
That and npc crew you can customize so you can end up having a harem in your ship. The wait is agony.

>>151819318
Star Citizen is still years away from achieving a fully persistent world with dozens of solar systems, a dynamic simulated economy, dynamic procedurally generated missions, faction reputation, mining, permadeath mechanics, and territorial conquest. They haven't stopped working on any of those features though, and through the magic of whales they haven't run out of money.

You can currently dogfight (although some parts like missiles are currently broken) in a separate module, you can race in a separate module, or you can go to the (somewhat) Persistant Universe and do missions that involve dogfighting or getting out of your ship and shooting people with firearms. You earn money from these missions which can be spent on firearms, armor, and clothes.

Before the end of the year they will add procedural planets, trading, and a separate FPS module. They will probably also add shops that let you buy ships and ship equipment with Persistent Universe money by then.

The netcode currently fucks up your framerate and won't be fixed until year's end, so at least wait until Alpha 2.7 if you want to experience the ongoing development of Star Citizen. If you want a somewhat complete game, ask again in at least another year.

>>151818895
The one edge the viper has over the courier is it has good hardpoint locations for fixed weapons, while the Courier is forced to use gimbals in the two wing hardpoints.

But yeah, DBS will run rings around any viper. The viper was good before it had its speed nerfed because it could dictate the pace of the engagement.

>>151822054
I use pack hounds in all three hardpoints

fuck your external modules, and fuck your shields. Pack hounds eat shields like fuck for some reason

>>151812848
Mining would be more worthwhile if they didn't start the limpet meme and added functional tractor beams that function the same way. Fucking limpets taking up cargo space I can use for rocks and limiting my mining time.

But dads think a type 9 or anaconda should manually scoop every little rock you break off an asteroid, so they can't make mining work like it should.

>>151821514
Ok. So you're telling me these fags aren't gonna be done by the end of 2016? Because their website says they're aiming for the end of 2016.

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>>151771131
>>151771973
>First thing I said about the different flight modes was that they were pointless and just made you more vulnerable

>People tell me I'm an idiot when I point out it exposes the engines much like the Cutlass

Feels good to be vindicated

>>151821514
>Star Citizen is still years away from achieving a fully persistent world with dozens of solar systems, a dynamic simulated economy, dynamic procedurally generated missions, faction reputation, mining, permadeath mechanics, and territorial conquest.

Not in any way is that the case.

>>151822537
That's the squadron 42 date isn't it?
Star Citizen itself isn't even out of alpha yet. I'd say beta will begin sometime in 2017 if they keep going at the rate they are.

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>>151822702
Squadron 42 aka the single player which should provide around 20 hours of gameplay or more may launch in 2016. Personally I think it will probably be delayed into early 2017.

>>151822823
>20 hours or more
>tfw I probably got 1000 hours of play time between WC3, and WC4.

My favorite fucking games when I was young.

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Should I, /edg/?

>>151823068
>/edg/

who

>>151823105
>>151757932
>/scg/, /edg/: Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous General

>>151823068
>no money for outfitting
>no money for insurance
>in a starter combat ship

no

>>151822702
I don't think. I could've sworn I saw 2016 earlier. But I just ctrl-f'd the whole website for "2016", and didn't find anything. Huh, maybe I imagined it. Wierd.

Although I don't think it'll take as long as you think. I've just watched a few youtube videos. It seems the game is mostly together. Aside from some framerate issues, and the game seeming very rough(the camera is shaky, and you have to look DIRECTLY at things to get the menu to pop up), it looks like they just have to connect the pieces and smooth out the parts where they join together.

I dunno. Maybe it's really shitty when you play it or something, but it looks to me like they are nearly done. Just gotta connect, smooth, and expand from here it seems. Although they need a new running animation. Holy fuck that looks retarded.

>>151823354
The running animation always triggered me. I think it may have changed already in 2.5 but it will probably change in 2.6 I hope. They are removing the use key and replacing it with a different system.

I'm a dad

I clocked literally thousands of hours into First Encounters. I'm enjoying the FUCK out of E:D. I don't think the game is perfect as it literally has less content than its predecessor 23 years ago had. But its damned good. I wasted 3 hours ice mining yesterday.

Ask me anything

>>151823463
The menu was the only thing I really could bitch about. It just seemed really glitchy. Players would look at something, and then the "use" option would disappear, because of how shaky the camera seems.

I don't know why, but the sharpness of everything in this game triggers me very hard. Also, aiming and shooting guns looks very... Hollow? I don't know how to describe the feeling. It just LOOKS very glitchy, and fake to me. I watched a video, where this guy snuck inside a ship, and shot the guy in the back, but he had to aim at the guy for a good 10 seconds before shooting through his seat.

E:D felt very solid when shooting other ships. This game gives me a sense of hollowness in nearly everything.

Once again, I haven't played it, maybe it's different from that perspective. But it looks very glitchy, but also looks polished at the same time. Everything seems in working order, and if you put them together, I think it'd work nicely. But it doesn't seem SOLID enough.

>>151822648
>>151823354
What makes you think that all of the things I listed will be done in less than two years?

We're getting our first full solar system by the end of the year, and if we're lucky we'll get a procedurally generated ArcCorp (i.e. an urbanized planet). They will then have to go from one system to dozens of them, and that will take time to do properly. Not to mention rolling out the subsumption A.I. that will power the economy and generate missions.

>>151823986
By virtue of the fact that we have no idea what they've done, and they've said it will be out.

We had ZERO hints at Crusader's assets until they were completed. Makes logical sense to assume that there are things that have been done we have no idea exist, be that PU systems or locations.

>>151823986
All I need is 2 or 3 planets to be happy. As long as they've got content on them.

Quality over quantity. They could release new systems once a month after that, and I'd be fine chilling at the old planets as long as there's people to kill and things to do.

>>151824249
When did they say that those things would be out by 2017? If I recall, the most recent answer from Chris was "I'd rather take my time and do it right". They are also clearly no longer aiming at the end of 2016 for the Persistent Universe release, and I don't remember than giving another date since then.

>people getting excited for Pay Real Money For Each Ship: The Game

seriously?

>>151824794
Which game does that describe in your head, anon?

>>151824794
You'll be able to earn them all in-game, goy. And they say that they'll stop selling ships for real money once the game releases, and instead switch to selling in-game currency with a monthly cap per buyer.

>>151822702
I'd assume they are aiming for 2016 because it won't need other game systems like mining or other 2017 stuff.
They've been working on sq42, for the most part, separately from star citizen so I think the actual progress on it is yet to be determined. They did say they want to have it done by 2016, but they have not said anything was an official release date.

Things like the damaged idris were probably pushed forward for sq42, rather than other capital ships, although it could just be that they have enough people to do both of these things simultaneously.
I mean, almost 300, probably over that by now, they have a lot they haven't shown us. I don't think they would even release sq42 to public beta or alpha because if they did everyone would play it even if it was completely broken.

>>151823640
Doesnt water sell for 40 cr a ton? You could have mined in pristine mettalic rings for 9k/ton gold.

>>151825126

there's other stuff in icy rings

Low temperature diamonds that sell for 50k a ton and bromellite that sells for 7k a ton and is pretty common

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>star citizen beginning
"cheap" packages with nice ships like the SH etc.
"naaa citizen will never come out, SCAM"

>star citizien today
expensive packages with shitty ships
"naa star citizen will never come out BUT IM FUCKING HYPED AND WANT TO PLAY"

>beeing poorfag

>>151825298
Considering your dad/10 did you scoop out each piece of rock indvidually like you think you should? Limpets are for entitled millenials

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What is this yellow icon? Looks kinda like the Empire symbol from Star Wars.

Does vaporizing criminals in Federation space/claiming Federation bounties do anything for my reputation, or do I absolutely have to grind missions to get rep?

>>151825512
Community Goal

>>151825512
Here be turtles

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How do I clear my bounty? Accidentally shot law enforcement once while in combat with dirty wanted peasants. I'm tired of seeing the "WANTED" on my HUD by my fuel.

>>151823640
Why can't Brabo's employees code properly?

How would you rank all of the Elite/Frontier games, from best to worst?

>>151825613
Make like a tree and leaf

>>151825518
Yeah bounties do something for your rep, though I have no idea how much. I've been doing like 80% bounty hunting lately and twice tonight I've noticed my rep has gone up with The Federation.

>>151825613
jump away and back, then it becomes a fine that you can pay.

>>151825506
>did you scoop out each piece of rock indvidually like you think you should? Limpets are for entitled millenials

I did but only because I cant mount limpets on an Adder. Thats why it took 3 hours.

Never take liquid oxygen mining missions, you only get 1-2% a pop and its too much of a fucking tedium even for my autistic self

Okay so now I have my endgame ship - Cobra MkIII

I never killed a single ship. How do I get into combat with minimum risk

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>There are people who still think Squadron 42, the single player aspect, will release this year

>There are people who still think that Star Citizen, the Persistent Universe aspect, will release before 2019 or 2020

I have no problem with people being optimists and all, but I still don't see how anyone can even think that Star Citizen will release within the next 3 - 4 years. The company has been focusing on Squadron 42 for most of the time, and yes, a lot of those assets can and will be used in the PU, but that's nothing compared to what's supposed to be in the PU. I'll just repost what some other anon said on this last thread because I'm lazy, but it's all true. This game as a long ways yet, especially so considering that they will make Squadron 42 episodes back to back without stopping to make PU dedicated assets.

I think it's a shame that they will make Squadron 42 episodes back to back. If they had the entire company focus solely on PU assets for 2 years before making Episode 2, I think everything would be more well off, but they aren't doing that. Just please do no expect Squadron 42 this year, and do not expect Star Citizen within the next 3 years. This way we aren't ass blasted when it takes longer than they said, and we would be surprised if they actually made it all faster.

>>151826198
Thanks for your hot opinion, as wrong as it is

>>151826198
>This way we aren't ass blasted when it takes longer than they said, and we would be surprised if they actually made it all faster.

There are always going to be people who get assblasted over it, anon. But yes, my expectations were already set for late 2018 anyway. I've had this prediction since summer last year. I'll reconsider it if I have to in late 2017.

>>151826297
Where exactly is he or the pic wrong?

Right now they have essentially nothing compared to what they will need for release of this game. It took them fucking forever to make Arccorp, the space stations, and ships too. There was a 2 month delay between adding a single pirate base, and even after all this time we have none of the stuff listed in the pic. How exactly is any of that wrong?

>>151826779
Its wrong in that its based on the assumption that none of the shit required for the PU is completed or close to completion, when in fact he has no fucking clue what state its in.

The "focus on SQ42" is in direct opposition to the monthly reports, which speak of lots of work being done on systems we haven't seen yet.

3-4 years until its released? Ridiculous by all accounts.

>>151826297
>opinion
anon, I'm just trying to help you not be dissapointed.

>>151826884
>Its wrong in that its based on the assumption that none of the shit required for the PU is completed or close to completion

I did not say that NONE of the stuff required for the PU is close to completion or done. But consider this anon: if mining mechanics and a mining ship weren't done, why wouldn't they release it? We have asteroids available. If cargo were close to completion, why wouldn't they implement it? We have plenty of cargo ships. I can follow this logic forever, but the thing is, they have no evidence of these things being close to completion.

But, we DO have a timescale of when they started working on other things. Ships take 4 or 5 months if rushed. Arccorp took almost a year from when we first saw it. This can be applied to everything they've shown us. We have zero indication of almost all of the game careers being "close" to completion. The same with the hundreds of landing zones they plan to make, the many other space stations, the ships we'll need for those careers, etc. 2020 doesn't sound too bad for all of the things they will make, and I'm willing to wait that long for a game this good, but anything before that, for the PU at least, is delusional.

>>151827298
I didn't say done or close to completion.
Just that they could be 6 months away from completion, a stage in which you wouldn't release it to the PTU.

3-4 years is utterly unrealistic.

>they have no evidence of these things being close to completion.

We know they have released things before that we knew nothing about until they were done, ergo its perfectly possible that is the case for some systems and mechanics.

Do you read the monthly reports, by the way?

>>151827298

>Ships take 4 or 5 months if rushed
>if rushed

How does a single ship take 4 months. What the fuck do they even do all that time? I program for a living and I can't imagine how you'd ever take FOUR MONTHS coding a ship.

SC looks more like a scam the more I read about it and even in this thread you have these cultist posters who gobble up everything roberts and co say.

At least braben actually does shit sometimes instead of money milking people for a product that doesn't even exist

>>151827452
>coding a ship
???

>>151825834
I feel the asp is the smallest ship you could legit mine in and not want to pull brabens thinning hair out. The python is most likely the smallest vessel that can mine and defend itself reasonably well.

Havent done any mining yet to see if res sites spawn better ore in the hazard res vs low res

>Beginning on Wednesday, August 17th we’ll be streaming five days of live Star Citizen game play directly from the our Show Booth in Hall 9 on the Gamescom floor. Hosted by CIG and members of the Star Citizen Twitch Community, tune in to see the latest Star Citizen game play, interviews with developers and fans alike, and have your chance to win digital goods like hangar flair, game packages, and spaceships.

>have your chance to win

so how do I participate exactly? Im new to this kind of stuff..

>>151824853
>>151824904

>Replying to retards

>>151827854
By being there?

>>151827931
>tune in

sounds to me I dont need to be there?

>>151827447
>a few concepts of capital ships and fighters
>some how supposed to make me think they have 10 space stations, 20 landing zones, 6+ game careers, and many other ships in a close to completion state or in active production

And yes, I watch and read everything about SC except for their lore shit. This game has a long time to go. Even if they had half of what I just listed, this game will take at least 2 more years. They only have around 320 people, and not all of them are 3D modelers, texture artists, coders, among other things. I will not assume they have a ton of shit until we're given evidence of its existence.

4 more years isn't the end of the world if this game comes out the way they described it.

>>151827452
Multiple iterations, plenty of game systems and shit I don't understand goes into them. I think it's a long time, but this only helps my case more as this game will take a while longer.

>>151827854

You will probably have to be at their gay little convention, or enter a raffle to win on their Twitch, which is also gay. Make sure you have a game package and account, otherwise you cant recieve shit.

mining is so boring and so slow, its been 2 hours and im at 60/500 to unlock Selene Jean

is there a faster way?

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>playing oculus E:D for first time in months
>seen plenty of vids of capital ships jumping in
>finally go to a high conflict zone myself
>get the notification about a capital class
>looking around tryin to get a good view of it
>literally jumps in right where I am
>bashes into my ship and sends me spinning
>shields instantly popped and 65% hull strength is lost
>ship taking heat damage
>enemy fighter breaks off of his dogfight and targets me
>manage to fly off with 7% left

What are the chances we'll get huge spacetrucks like these?

>>151829164
Prospectors, collector limpets and a ship with a decent sized hold.

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>>151829719
Forgot my image

>>151828869
great.....

I will see how my pc runs this game and then decide to buy or not (hope for some ne packages)

that feel when want the Cutter so bad but it will probably take a real life year to get it

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>mechanical components

Vulture or Diamondback Explorer?

>>151829825
damnit, i have all that
i guess i just gotta buckle in, this game is shit

>>151829164
>he hasn't embraced the grind

>>151829164
E:D is a game based around grind; the actual content is shitty and shallow, so it attracts those people who want a massive timesink.

>>151830425

diamondback is prettier

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i'm not quite sure where to go from here,

i'm currently having fun doing the Witchhaul rare trade route, but have no plans on where to drop all the money i'm making.
I'm thinking of building a ship to do the 71 stop trade route but not sure whether i should keep to a fast medium ship, or go all out on a hauler.

>>151828289
Yes, clearly what that anon was talking about was ship concepts trying to convince you that game mechanics were in production.

Not at all that the state of those mechanics are completely unknown, so asserting that they are 3 to 4 years away is completely baseless and makes no sense when reading what the PU team is up to every month

>>151806798
All the guns are terrible.

>>151830425
So fighting or exploring/missions?

Which one are you doing? Unless they boosted the turning radius on the explorer its pretty much a flatbed truck.

>>151809731
It's based on your profit.

I get to Tirbesbes.
What now for grind?

>>151831086
i wish they didnt hide clearly combat orientated upgrades behind the lamest fucking playstyle

Anyone here speak German?

>>151831394
Combat. Trying to hunt RES. I just got rid of my Viper, looking to up hunting I do... Can't afford a Vulture yet, only have 4.1 mil.

I've just heard mixed reviews about both and was looking for fellow CMDRs opinions.

>>151831515
oy gestault

>Bought NMS
>It's unadulterated garbage
>Refund it and buy E:D:H
>load up
>no tutorial
>no nothing
>get in my ship and crash it around a spaceport and into a planet and smash the fuck out of it for 25 minutes
>learn the controls
>start to get the hang of things
>loving some space trucking
>Start running Data around for some coin
>Get 100k up pretty quick
>Toss up between an Adder and a Hauler
>End up getting The Adder, she looks like a space minivan but she's getting the job done and is a bit better rounded out.
>Hauling shit from place to place
What weapons should I buy for some low level combat missions?
I've only been in one fight and I got saved by the cops.
Not sure I've even seen another player desu.

>>151831515
نعم بالطبع!

>>151831640
DBX is for exploring. You want the DBS.

>>151832045
Gimballed multicannons.

>Elite Dangerous Horizons is a full price stand alone expansion

fuck and I just bought the base game

it said on G2A that horizons requires base game. Stupid slavic fucking niggers

>>151832045
There are training missions. They're not that good but they're something.

>>151832045
>No tutorials
There are training missions, m8. Includes landing on stations.

>>151831515
a nuuuu cheeki breeki iv damke

>>151831515

مرحبا انا الألمانية

>>151831515
cyka blyat peestol eco round rush objective blyat )))

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New Star Citizen article by a German website


Looks like their is hardly any new info though

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Star-Citizen-Spiel-3481/Specials/Studio-Preview-1204131/

The weapons in SC seems to have more polygons than the standard NPC in the Witcher 3 though.

I think the guy asking about german speakers is asking for this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/4xsr21/german_pcgameshardware_visited_foundry42frankfurt/

There seems to be a translation already.

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>>151829719
>>151829829
Already is; MISC Hull series

>>151832367
it was recently changed, Horizons is now classed as DLC if you didn't already buy it

What are the best mods to put on beams and MCs? I want a ship that reks NPCs in order to farm combat rank. I've got a Corvette.

>>151833453
Beams: thermal venting, multis: overcharge

>>151832734
>>151832701

Shame that their weapon design is garbage

like hi-fidelty PBR excrement.