/kfg/ - Killing Floor General

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First for no anime

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Second for demos killing themselves.

>>151717690

Do not bully the Demos.

>>151717690
I'm the guy from last thread stating m79 rounds teleport, you won, thanks for the gifs

>Plays as new Support for the first time.

One man should not have this much power.

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>Can't leave failed game until Hans is finished insulting you
>Not even alt+f4 works
At least i got a drop

>>151718308

Open console and type in "disconnect".

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>>151718308
>>151717567

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>>151717567
>>151718729
Didn't have a more appropriate reaction image, sorry

>>151718854

It's ok anon.

dis new support lads...

>>151719456

Don't worry, TWI will nerf it to the point where it's useless.

Do you all use grenades?

I subscribed to the classic wilkes skin but I can't see it in the folder they specify. I can see some maps and stuff but not the skin.

Anyone lend an anon a hand?

>>151720168
Do you use a mouse?

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>>151720220
Fixed it.
My steam downloads were paused.

i am a retard

>>151717567

Anime will always come, anon. You cannot escape it.

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>Black Forest HOE
>Yellow Hans
>Despite one death, the rest of us have this shit locked down
>All is going well
>We just need to keep it up an-
>YOU HAVE LOST YOUR CONNECTION TO THE SERVER

>>151720254
No, I use a touchpad.

>>151720449

I've' been getting a lot more disconnects in the beta than I ever have in KF2.

>>151720863

I heard a rumour that whole servers of people have been crashing out because some guy uses the Server Takeover option KF2 just says WELL SORRY GUYS NICE GAME YOU GOT HERE BUT JOHNNY NO NAME OVER THERE WANTS A SERVER NOW SO GIVE YOURS UP.

IDK if that's true, but knowing TW it wouldn't surprise me.

>open up store to see what kind of shit they've added
>in 60hours of gameplay I have not seen a single fucking thing from this store but a shitty bandanna and balaclava
>everything is $10
So it's safe to say this cosmetics system has failed; so why do they keep adding hundreds of items that don't even try to fit the theme? Is the one guy who buys a 5dollar skin for a single weapon supporting their development?

>>151721642
this 100%

and the fact that skins have CS:GO tier qualities is just retarded

Are you guys having fun playing /swat/

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>>151722139
Hell yes I am. So far I'm not feeling very useful, but it sure as fuck is fun.
>5/6 teammates are SWAT
>Fleshpound spawns
>everyone unloads their Krisses and stun grenades on it all at once

>>151722268
>vector shitters
>not being a peaceful explorer with the p90
Big mags big damage.

>>151722385
I prefer the P90 as well, but I like the Kriss for unloading as fast as possible on big zeds. And naturally because it shoots so fast it's way more fun to hear 5 of them at once.

>>151722268
>tfw try commando after playing swat

'no'

>>151722448
What's that supposed to mean? That Commando is better than SWAT or that Commando is boring?

>>151722635
Probably commando is boring. Commando wasn't that interesting in the release; the guns feel like and sound like shit and they got bad perks much likeSWAT. But atleast SWAT has fun guns.

>>151722385

>First 5 mins playing SWAT
>Wow what a fucking ugly gun it looks so bad I'm not using this shit after this match

>Playing SWAT now
>Wow what a fucking great gun it works so well I'm using this shit every match from now on

Today I learned that beauty isn't just skin deep.

>>151722674
nigger please

this preview commando received great new sounds, 20-50% damage buffs on the primaries and good perks

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>>151722735
>wow they're giving SWAT the MP5, I'm gonna use that all the time since it's my gunfu
>oh, it's tier 2, but surely it can't be that bad
>it's literally worse than the MP7 in performance and has a horrible iron sight
>don't even buy it as a spare ammo pool for boss waves anymore

>>151722139
So far my only gripe is that there's no UMP45.

Vector, P90 and MP7 are all guns that I love.

>>151722635
I feel like level 1 swat plays better than my 15 commando

I just don't like the guns I suppose

>>151722831
I like to use it when I have dosh to spare, I enjoy the feel of it. But technically there's no point wasting money on something that at best is on par with a gun that you already have.

and in the faint distance you can hear the gentle whirring of the fleshpound fucking make it stop holy shit

It's the recoil.
Commando has to work around it with taps/bursts/stayingstill/crouching/ADS/pullingaimdown.
SWAT is easy mode and basically doesn't have it.

>>151722635
>>151722674
Still I would say that in skilled hands, Commando is a better perk to have in the team.

>>151723429
Yeah the recoils quite bad, and that vector's recoil is nonexistent.

How's the damage between the vector and scar anyway? Are there any worksheets on that anywhere?

>>151723603
>Are there any worksheets on that anywhere?

disregard this, i skipped OP

>>151723603
SCAR does twice as much damage with a bullet, but Kriss have better DPS with its high firerate.

>>151722385
>>151722441
Only time iv used the P90 is part of a CS:GO meme build of P90 + C4 + Dual Barretas/Single Deagle sidearm. It works surprisingly well since the P90 has good ammo c4 is good against big zeds and the sidearms are good for ammo or burst damage respectively.

>>151722831
Pretty sure its bug that its T2 and the silenced mp7 is T1, they'l very likely be switched when the update officially releases.

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literally what the fuck
>evacuation point suicidal
>hordes of zeds everywhere
>hordes of bloats and sirens
>ayy lmao 3 gas crowlers in your face is like okay situation
>3 fps 4 scs is fine too
>entire team is literally btfo every wave
>intense running around whole map every wave with sirens bloats and husks around every corner
>about wave 10, 5 members of the team have around 400 kills and more
>mfw

>>151723954
literally what the fuck are talking about

>>151723603
AR SA80 30, AK 40, SCAR 50
MP7 20, MP5 22, P90 30, Kriss 33
I think.

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>>151723954
>playing 6 man suicidal
>holding corridor alone as support

dunno whats happening to you bro

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>Get to Lvl 25 SWAT
>mfw Vector Rapid fire with a competent Commando
>It becomes a portable GAU-8

On another note, the Perked up achievement still doesn't unlock.

>>151723954
Just got to wave 9 HoE infernal grounds, we had killed 2500 zeds.

It's pretty epic for the win desu senpai

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I love you guys

>>151725404
I like you too now, after meating your white brother.

>tight choke
I lost my mindless crowed control on the dbs and I can't hit those sanic crawlers
help

>>151723954
>farmhouse
>gs solo
>killin fps
>killing scs
>get in the corner behind the farmhouse
>past corner 4 husks insta flaming me
>ded in 1 sec

Truly amazing.

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We're playing the most gorgeous game released to this day, post screenshots

>MA was so not set in stone they scrape it now
Their roadmap is a fucking joke.

>>151726138
>released

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>>151722796
>new sounds suddenly make it fun
Nigga please, let me know when is actually fun to play mechanically

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>AA12
>DBS
>P90
>medpistol
What a killer combo

>>151726626
desu I don't play Commando since it's at 25 so I can't say much

>>151726461
just post screenshots baka

>>151723954
It's called another no firebug and support combo in your team episode

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>medic gives firebug a speed buff
>he's running around at sanic speed setting everything on fire
Make it stop!

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>>151726138
daym graphics

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>>151726138

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>>151727140
fug ye

>>151727428
JUST

>>151727751
DOSH

>>151728740
OR

>>151728828
COCKS

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It was a decent attempt, but we simply didn't have enough __gas__

>>151727119
>hating fast

VGS

>>151729252
I don't hate the fast, I just hate when the firebug can zip to different sides and stand in front of everyone blazing zeds

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>reminder that this spawn mechanic is intended

>>151729630

What's the problem?

>>151730064
4 scrakes and a fleshpound all spawning in same area

>>151730296

Alright.
So what's the problem?

>>151730296
You want them to spawn from all directions?

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>>151730781
just the way i like it

>>151730781
>>151730851

What if silly gun perks are just Kraut space magic in action?

>play demo in pubs
>SWAT fucks who can't aim keep taking all of the ammo boxes

Please god make it stop.

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>>151730781
bizon sidegrade when

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>Firebug passives
Resist zed fire damage
(100.0% + 2.0% / level)

So.... this stat makes me invincibler to husks?

>>151732362
Mod it in

>>151733519
It did in KF1, so probably does here too.

I feel that swat needs a skill that allows him to repair his own armor, since as it stands his armor is even shittier than medics and I don't believe he can spec into any DR either.

Perhaps add it to the Battering Ram so that each zed you run into regenerates 10% of your armor or something.

>>151733519
>>151733609
You still take damage from husks tho... Projectile and flamthrower

>>151733519
It should be (30.0% + 2.0% / level) but TWI don't have time to test anything.

Is sharpshooter viable using the left side of the skill tree?
It's a pain in the arse standing still and crouching all the time. It doesn't help that the core gameplay is all about getting chased by zeds

>>151735080
You want rack em up. Everything else just helps.
You can probably ignore stun as well unless you're using the railgun now.

So how good Cripple is in actual game? How many shots you need to activate it, how long the effect last?

>>151735080
Yes, that's the only way you can 1shot scrakes on 6man hoe

>>151727349
map?

If you could design and add a new ZED what would you like?

>>151735878
Classic KF1 manor remake, it's on workshop

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>>151727349
visions of the past?

SWAT perk when
>>151727140

Is this a mod? classic flamethrower doesn't show on my shop

>>151736971
Whoa, are you from 12 months in the past?

>>151737146
I launched the game yesterday and have none of those

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>>151737201
the newest patch is a opt-in beta, you can go to Properties in Steam and under the BETAS tab there's a menu where you can choose it

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>>151737201
Opt, you dummy
Check KF2 properties and check the beta tab

>>151736884
Who dis?

>>151737326
>>151737334
OOOOOHHHHHhhhhh AIGHT

It's been awhile since i played it

Just found out the ZEDs don't teleport anymore finally, so no artificial difficulty no more

And wy the fuck would it be optional if we're already on an """""""""""""""""""early access"""""""""""""""""""" done right?

Does it crash or have bugs or something?

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>>151737453
Instead we get special zed spawn groups, which can end up in something like 7 scrakes or 5 scakes and 2 fps spawning in the map almost at the same time

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>exploding crawlers leave gas for what feels like 1/3rd of a wave with a huge radius
>they just keep piling up
>also sanic fast and can dodge you
What is this?

>>151737785
Still better than teleporting, at least now you can kite those

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>>151738017
cmon now, take a deep breath and calm down

>>151737669
its definitely got bugs

doesn't seem to crash

>>151737669
it has both

>>151738175
Okay i'm calm now, thanks animeme poster

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>>151736884

>>151737453
They don't teleport but they spawn at every corner.

>>151737669
It crashes and disconnect from the server a lot.

>>151738130
I really wonder why did it take so much time for Tripwire to fix the teleporting ZEDs

It takes me to the conclusion they indeed didn't played or paid attention to KF2 for the longest time, considering the teleporting ZEDs fucked up the balance, game pace, and complete design of the game and maps over, making it rendundant and useless to run, hide or crowd control them.

It fucked the concept of Killing Floor in so much ways it's seriously incredible, not to mention it's giganticly stupid and unfun.

And it took what? 8 months? almost a year i think

It's like doing a shooter that guns don't shoot, a platformer with broken jumping, and leaving it like that for a year.

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>>151738348
good girl

>>151737669
3 bugsplats in 30 minutes of play today for me, but 2 hours before that without problems

got 2 bugsplats yesterday as well

seems to be random

>>151738573
That's exactly like Killing Floor 1

The first seconds/minute the wave started you knew you should run and get the fuck out where you are to spawn them all and start kiting them, otherwise you get surrounded by the first wave. But that's fair, they spawned already so that's it.

KF2 you ran to reload, turned around the corner and found the same Scrake you've been running from on leaving the bathroom in front of you. Ran again and he's reading the newspaper again on your way out. Fucking retarded.

>>151738616
Honestly I never noticed zed teleporting in my 100-or-so hours

I didn't know it was in the game until i saw people complaining about it

>>151738616
I think zeds just had shit path finding algorythm, so TWI decided fuck it and just made them teleport all over the place in time for early access launch. Now they spent some time figure out path finding and finally got rid of teleporting.
That's my theory.

><Demo> kills <Fleshpound>
><Demo> suicide
favorite kf2 mini-meme

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>>151738830
You beat me

>>151738616
>its like doing a shooter that guns don't shoot

but this is a shooter

honestly though I don't think they considered it a big problem because the way to win HoE was finding 1 spot and stacking zerks in the front with medics in the back

now the gameflow seems a lot more dynamic, with the special squads and more enemies, so the teleporting isn't required

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>>151738830

>>151738927
*akbars in heaven*

>>151738980
>>151738890
That's why it was a big deal having the enemies to teleport around the map

You're now remembering there's welding in the game

The most awkward thing was to weld a door in a room, look back to the other side, and suddenly they're INSIDE THE ROOM with you

And you welded one of your exits so you were fucked

It's their game design they were not respecting, all i'm saying

Maybe the pathfinding or a more technical issue was indeed at hand. Thing is people really didn't trust them because they kept silent for the longest time, and that's a big no no for EA games.

>>151738830
How didn't you

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>ywn be a kfg meme

>Team usually comprised of at least 4 SWAT
>Can never make it past wave 3 on sui
How is this happening?

>>151739565
special weapons guy isn't as strong as you thought

>>151739565
no big guy specialists

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>MP7 deals 20 damage, MP5 deals 22
>MP7 has 40 rounds by default, MP5 has 30
>MP7 has faster reload speeds across the board EXCEPT the un-elite half full reload
>both weigh the same
>MP5 has a godawful iron sight you can't see shit out of while the MP7 has a red dot with good visibility
>MP5 costs money, MP7 is free
>MP7 has a higher rate of fire, MP5 has a total of 40 rounds more ammo capacity
>MP5 has ever so slightly stronger stumble power
>identical recoil values

What's the point of the MP5? Even if it was the starting weapon instead of the MP7 it would be a worse gun.

Guys when the SWAT update comes to the live servers?

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>>151739752
To look pretty

>>151739752
Burst fire, and making characters say quotes about it.

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>>151722863
Yess exactly, i was a little dissappointed we couldnt get my favorite sub the UMP. Hopefully they add it in later

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>support and commando are just natural enemies
>support and swat are bros that mesh pretty well together

>>151740590
Who has lines for it, besides Strasser?

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>>151723837
Will try this out for keks

>>151740952
Rob Briar.

>Put off playing KF2 for ages so I can get back into it with this update
>It's only just hit me that for a week after the update all difficulties will be infested with low level SWAT shits
>After that first week the game will then have a free weekend adding even more fuckers

Yeah the game's unplayable because of this looping machinery sound when a fleshpound dies. Let it die.

>>151741168
wow, what a gay

>>151741168
hasn't happened to me yet

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>Patriarch takes x1.3 damage from being hit in his right arm and x1.0 damage from being hit in the head
And that's not even mentioning the beyond retarded x0.1 damage he takes from being hit in the jaw.

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Is there an actual decent spot to hold out in Infernal Realms?

>>151740934
>lv 15 swat pubbie in hoe game
>keeps taking my spare AA12 and using it, then dying
>never flashbangs scrakes/fp that we call out
>almost as few kills as the medic

Ironically support/commando are great together since Tight Choke gives them good range + AA12 stumble

So how does one get into that beta right now?

>>151741792
go into KF2 properties on steam, then the beta tab

select -preview

>>151741619
There is this center bridge like area with the big rocks creating some very good chokepoints with zeds only being able to enter from the front and back. Backside can usually be covered by one person. Worked out pretty well so far everytime I've been there.

>>151741940
Thank you. Is the game saved/worthwhile yet?

>>151742284
I've been doing the double door sets with the raised platform in between, it's pretty good against outbreaks since so many people can fire down on the crowd but gets busy quickly

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>put down staticmesh of a window (one of the unbreakable ones from biolabs)
>I can walk through it, shoot through it etc.
>"oh no problem I'll just use the right click option to make a blocking volume the same size as it"
>it blocks me and bullets
>"alright neat"
>grenades sail straight through it

send help
google turned up someone from TW themselves saying to also make the staticmesh of whatever "block weapons kickable" but that doesn't stop my nades passing right through either

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>>151742826
What are you trying to make anon? Tell me and I'll help you out

>>151719596
Damage will remain the same, but you will get 8 AA12 shots per ammo pickup and have a maximum of 40 shots just so you can see the reload animation one time.

>>151743074
Can you be my boyfriend?

>>151743074
Literally just a glass window in a map, don't want it breakable, hence me choosing one of the biolabs meshes. It'd technically be fine if I just left it sitting only blocking players and bullets, but I don't want it to seem like I couldn't be fucked to fix the nades going through it when someone notices.

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Remember when you only had 80 shots with the aa12? You get almost 3 times as much now, its insane.

>>151744447

Don't worry anon; it'll get nerfed back to 80 soon.

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>>151744447
Truly this is the golden age
We gotta enjoy it before it gets nerfed

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>>151744447
>those tits

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>>151744447
>literally infinite DPS

>playing as SWAT
>run into a Crawler
>gun it down like any dime a dozen crawler
>it blows up in a bloat type explosion leaving bile and gas in the area

What the fuck? Can anyone explain this, I have never seen this in my 95 hours of playing KF. If it helps, it was a lighter tint then the others, I thought it was just a graphical bug

>>151744972
one of the new special zeds
there's also a pale clot that's faster and can rally other zeds

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>>151744972
Your game must be bugged out anon

>>151744972
Part of the new update, white crawlers are now basically moving hans grenades
White clots will buff enemies nearby too, keep an eye out for those red auras

>>151745150
>>151745062
Don't forget the albino Bloat that leaves puke mines

>>151745062
>>151745150
>>151745231
Do any of you have a link to all of these? I want to see what I should be looking out for. Also thanks a ton for not just laughing at me, I was majorly confused and googling it gave no results.

>>151745313
They're originally from the PvP mode, they brought some to Survival to add some variety

This is an old Tripwire stream but they go over most of the PvP Zeds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCg33Qh_6IA
The match starts around 13:38

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>>151745231
>See headless Bloat wobbling around
>Run past don't minding him
>Suddenly bam, I'm dead
>He shitted mines when he died right next to me

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Why does swat feel so un-unique, not really bad but for what I feel like should be the "tank" its skills and level bonuses dont really do much

>>151745929
Thanks a bunch man, I wonder if the FP and the Skrake has special modes.

>>151746817
I feel like the tank part of it would only be if you don't have a zerker and your team gets mobbed a lot. Besides that, it just seems like another mob clearing character. Plus I feel like the P90 sometimes overperforms the Kriss

>>151746817
They dropped the ball by not having a riot shield. They could have kept the SMG and had it be really inaccurate past close range. Hopefully they actually consider it down the line.

>>151747225
They already said they're interested in a Riot shield but it'll be a post-release thing

>>151747326
What like a perk weapon or a standalone class? Not sure how they could do the latter.

>>151743774
Try another window?
If it's one of the biolabs ones it might not have collision enabled if its in an area that players can't reach. IIRC if you double click on the mesh it should bring up the mesh properties window. Near the bottom of that window there should be a few checkboxes referencing collision, if you check (or uncheck) those boxes the mesh should have fully working collision.

>>151747520
for SWAT

>>151747520
For SWAT yeah

>>151747520
>Prevents clots from grabbing, or can swipe it to knock them off and stagger small/medium enemies
>Blocks % of damage from the front of ranged attacks
>Can charge through a crowd to knock over small/medium zeds

Goddamn the eviscerator is amazing. managed to do the new map solo hoe with my 19 zerker first try

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>on HoE medium 4man
>start of wave 7 we get 7 scrakes and 3 fleshpounds appear within a minute of each other

>>151746817
Because it was supposed to have a riot shield, and be different, but they decided that it should be early access done right.

>>151750390
I haven't played since Gunslinger. Did they buff the damage? People said big zeds got nerfed, is that all that changed?

It feels like there are much easier Evicerator combos than before.

>>151751398
Evisc has been pretty much the same, it's just that nobody ever uses it because it's weird

I think it blocks more damage than other weapons, though

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>>151751981
Alright, meme with me here:
10% damage reduction as a Zerker
40% from new parry
30% from new medic skill

60% damage reduction from blocking, not parrying from an Evicerator.

I think the berserker stuff is additive. I don't know if the Medic stuff is. Blocking is obviously multiplicative.

You could be taking anywhere from 8% to 22.68% damage depending if near all of it is additive, or all of it is multiplicative.

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what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu *slows into infinity* uuuuck

>>151753190
>rae

>>151753403
Whats wrong with Rae?

>>151753495
What ISN'T wrong with Rae?

>>151753403
STRAYA BEST COUNTRY

TATS AND METAL BOYS

>>151753539
Dat body?

>>151753539
She has cute japanese voice lines, onee-chan.

>>151722831
>not using MP5/C4 for RA2 SEAL build

>>151752591
i thought the whole point of the parry skill damage reduction was to make perfect parries reduce damage taken to 0 when parrying

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>>151753705
>not using RPG + M16 for IT AIN'T ME build

>>151754063
It gives you +40% dmg resist for the duration of the buff, it seems to make your parries very strong too

2 hp dmg with parry vs sc on hoe
6 hp dmg with resistance vs sc on hoe

>>151754384
>tfw Demo main
I'm still salty about no M32 but this update is pretty fucking fun

stalker nudemod for kf2 when

kinda looking forward to losing all my levels so I can start again, mix-matching weapons without worrying about missing out on perk bonuses

>>151753190
turn that fucking bloom off you mong do you want to be blind

>>151755034
They wont reset Perks, if you want to reset them yourself then open the console and type
>resetstats "steamname"

>>151754384
still not sure which one is overall better to use, but i really like parry due to how it's skillbased

>>151755358
Parry is so much better it's insane. The damage is bugged too and is always active. The buff lasts so long though that you never have to worry about it.

Normally you have 30% damage reduction: (175+100)/.7 = 392 Effective HP

With parry you have 50%: (175+100)/.5 = 550 Effective HP

158 points of raw damage taken more. And if you have a medic giving damage reduction it's proportionally even better. There is no way that this won't get fixed.

>>151753190
God damn turn off that bloom man, fuck

>>151755671
is the parry reduction a flat reduction to everything or just melee damage

>>151756068
All damage for the duration of the buff.

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>697 rounds for the Kriss with the ammo pouch skill

IS THERE GOING TO BE A NEW BOSS?

WE NEED NEW BOSSES

THE MATRIARCH

>>151756110
the fuck is even the point of resistance then
how long does the buff last exactly

>>151756629
10 seconds. And that feels really long too.

>>151755218
is there a way to reset one perk? I cheated one perk up for reasons and never play it now because I'm inexperienced with it, and want to play it from the bottom without having to cheat the rest of them back top where I played them to

so I'm just now getting good ahem, decent with sharpshooter and I wanna practice taking on the bigs in HoE.

Could someone spoonfeed a retard on how exactly I do the fakedplayers thing so I can play "6man" difficulty without like, having 5 other people?

So what the fuck is up with the SWAT and it's passive benefits? According to the doc literally everything is wrong.

There is no damage increase per level.
Bullet Resistance is 5 + 1/lvl, so 30% at max.
Mag Size is 4/lvl, so 100% at max.
Weapon Switch Speed is -1% time/lvl, so -25% time taken at max.

Why do date miners know more about the game than the average programmer at TWI?

>>151757404
Go to the workshop and find KF-sometestmap, it has everything you could ever possibly need to practice or test stuff
Be sure to read the instructions

>>151756772
I don't think so

>>151757532
it's a beta

>>151757532
The reality of it is they don't pay enough attention to the stuff that displays your stats, that system has been inaccurate in about a dozen cases now

>>151756772
Not so far, but resets are going to get some attention post-release, they said.

>>151757657
Sharpshooter and resistances update was in beta too. What did they change in release? Nothing.

>>151756772
cheat engine the same way you cheated up the perk, but instead set it to level 5.

>>151757570
Hm, thanks, I'll give that a shot.

FPs give me problems for obvious reasons so I think I need to really grind out being good at that, then, oddly, fucking sirens head movements are so goddamn janky and fast on HoE that I'm not consistent on them either.

Also - do you guys bother with the sniper spec for SS? The damage potential seems off the charts, but in practice it's rather hard to maintain a >3 stack of Rack 'em Up under pressure with the decay rate

>>151758159
keep in mind the perk choices you make in solo and an actual game are gunna be pretty different since solo is usually all about kiting while MP is about camping

>>151757971
It's quite clearly a bug


>>151758159
the rack 'em up decay rate is super fast right now - you literally can't get more than one with the railgun because it doesn't reload quickly enough
hopefully they change it later, right now it's only good for focussing down big zeds with the m14

>>151755130
I like bloom :3

>>151758605
What I've been doing, which is excessively hard to pull off/contrived, is building up stacks with the m14, dropping the gun, grabbing a rail and dropping shit

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>>151757532
My issue most of all is >bullet resistance
Not only was it a funslinger thing, albeit a pretty silly resistance since the only time it was useful was when the bosses did ONE of their attack types on you, but its just transferred to SWEAT and its not even something like general resistance to armor, its just straight up slingers trait which was already gimmicky but a lot stronger

>>151747005
>Plus I feel like the P90 sometimes overperforms the Kriss
50*30=1500
33*33=1089
lots more per mag, dumps it slower, though

>>151759067
Also a somewhat noticeably longer reload

>>151754586
this combo is really fun

http://puu.
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>>151757532
Shhh don't talk about it, they might revert 234 round AA12 too

>>151718278
it's almost like I'm playing KF1

>>151760023
Is that with AP rounds?

>>151759067
Yeah, but you can just walk the tracers in while moving. Harder to do that with the Kriss

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>Reminder that this weapon has been in the game since before the release of the kf2 beta
>That means this weapon has been in the core game loop for a MINIMUM of 16 months
>That's a MINIMUM of 486 days
>This issue still exists

>>151760652
Yes, concussive does literally nothing, or so it seems

I get one headshot in this clip but it really doesn't matter

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lmao 2pat

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Tasteless displays of wealth anyone?

>>151760861
didn't think to make sure recoil happens only after it has fired?
same shit with kf1 husk gun

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Is Nuke still worth taking for trash? It doesn't feel like it does much

>>151761308
>no animemes in chat
literally why bother

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>>151764038
Nukes still fine, its just gone through a long cycle but its enough to get rid of trash and medium zeds while not completely cheesing big zeds unless you can fire off more than one explosive

>>151764619
you blind?

>>151764038
It makes your shots do about double damage in zedtime + cause panic on everything in a decent radius, for a good duration

your alternative is mad bomber's bigger aoe + possibly 2 shots in zedtime, more if you have commando

>>151757404
Mod on workshop called Imaginary Friends I think

What do you guys normally take for level 15 perk on Swat? I figured that the stumble would be good, but aren't I just going for headshots anyways?

>>151769278
Ammo. If I wanted to unload of zed bodies I'd still take the ammo

Anyone else's kf2 take ages to load up when you first launch?

>>151771306
It's been that way for a while yeah

>>151771306
Mine does as well, but only when it's the first startup since my computer turned on. My Black Forest is still epilepsy inducing and I can't open a chest or craft without it bugging out and the audio freezing until I turn it off or go into a game.

Best part is that I don't even get anything from it, my friend gave me 5 USBs for this game for my birthday, exactly 1 month ago and I've only been able to open 2 of the crates I had.

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>>151717374
4u

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>>151764619
I don't know what you're talking about, fampai

>>151772446
fucking noice

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working as intended

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>Support "buff"
CAN'T HANDLE IT

>>151773315
hahahaha look at scully go!!

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hey /kfg/ what should I draw

>>151774793
kfg

>>151774793
Hans laughing while unleashing a horde of abino crawlers

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>>151774793
You forgot the helmet.

>>151774962
>wearing a helmet with leech written on it
Nah pham

>>151775013
Let's not start this shit again you motherfucker.

>>151774793
A cute support girl with a double barrel

>>151774793
The missing tenth perk.

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>>151775110
Fine, i'll take my memes elsewhere....

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>>151717398
Heard about Martial Artist, what should the last perk be though?

>>151775674
>a friendship that never happened
I'm in tears right now bros, our loli melee duo just weren't meant to be

>>151775674
;_;

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>>151775674

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>>151775674
DELETE THIS

>>151775674
Y-You too

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>>151775674

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>>151775674

>>151775674
I don't understand this.

>Hit a freshly spawned Fleshpound with dynamite
>No stun
>Do it again later with another fresh FP
>Stun

Why is this shit so inconsistent

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>>151775674
While it is sad, it's probably better this way. I don't think another melee perk would have worked out and because of its weapon niche it would probably have ended up the same as SWAT.

>>151776969
I LOVE YOU DEMO POSTER

>>151775674
the dragon becomes you now.

>>151777442
I'm not the demo poster, I just like that image.

I need a cash injection

>>151775674
>what should the last perk be though?
We have absolutely no idea.

>>151777663
neither does TWI

>>151775674
>>151777663
It'll be a scientist based perk with utility debuffs and energy based weapons developed by horizine.

>>151769278
stumble has saved me so many times against both hans and scrakes. FPs just kinda do whatever they want though

Either energy weapons or traps and turrets

>>151778376
>traps and turrets
sounds awful, especially in a game that's supposed to be "mobile"

>>151775674
THERE'S SOMETHING INSIDE YOU
IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU, BOY
BUT YOU'RE STILL THE SAME

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>>151775674
>katana will remain a shit 100 dosh drop weapon forever with no impact whatsoever

>>151775674
I still don't understand this.
>>151778645
And now people are bringing Nightcall into this and it's making me even more envious of the secret I'm missing out on.

>>151778961
if you haven't watched Cowboy Bebop, go do that
Nightcall doesn't have much to do with it beyond being a good song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RodrZ2we_hQ

>>151778865
But it sells for 450 dosh now since it's a Berserker tier 2?

>>151778961
Okay, let me actually explain it to you.
The guy you're replying to was the guy who made /kfg/'s perk girls. Basically every perk was personified into a cute anime girl.
These were all made before the perks were actually out. And since Martial Artist has been scrapped, she's now "retired" and gives the katana to Berserker instead, just like what happened with the latest update.
Do you get it yet?

>>151778865
>shit
it was pretty good before the patch, it's absurdly good now

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>>151779261
>Martial Artist has been scrapped

Oh...

>>151775674
Well, we have SMGs, ARs, longer range weapons, melee, high explosives, fire, medic, and handguns.

There's little left to add, besides battle rifles and LMGs. I hope we get battle rifles to be honest.

>>151780652
we have battle rifles, the SCAR and M14
really they should just port all the RO2 guns to KF2 for extra variety

>>151780652
Laser guns are coming

>MP7 does 20 damage with a rate of fire of 952
>MP5 does 22 damage with a rate of fire of 895
What's the point of the MP5

>>151781281
I said this exact same thing earlier in the thread you know.

>>151781281
It looks cool

>>151778865
its just a cheaper zweihander now

>>151780652
Oh, I know, a perk with only kraut/slav space magic guns- G11, AN94, sort of thing.
They're all expensive and he starts with full m9 ammo.

>>151779261
Yeah I get it now. The only hang up I had was the anime girls. I don't get why they were making a second melee class to begin with. It seemed like a bad idea since it would just be putting an arbitrary barrier in the middle of a role that's already be niche'd out.. Almost like making a second Sharpshooter or Commando. If they split weapons that could've been going to those classes and just made them their own class for no discernible reason, that'd be really out of place.

>>151782197
at the time it was possible since zerker was more solidified as the tanky role, but since the recent perk changes where you can either be tanky or fast and squishy the MA role is pointless
>It seemed like a bad idea since it would just be putting an arbitrary barrier in the middle of a role that's already be niche'd out
well you could say that about sharp and GS or commando and swat
KF2 perks are supposed to be more specialized than their KF1 counterparts

>>151782434
>well you could say that about sharp and GS or commando and swat
The last two sentences are me sarcastically saying just that.

>>151781281
317 dps vs 328 dps aka fuckin nothing

add to that the obstructive sight, lower mag size and higher cost and there's little point in it

>>151782197
>Almost like making a second Commando
>What is SWAT

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>>151775674
>Nippon Steel perk out
>Electricity perk in

I'm ok with this.

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>>151775674

>MA girl is gone because MA is cancelled

It only just hit me now.

>>151742284

Careful with this spot though.
If you're gonna use it make sure you aren't playing like shit.
Between white crawlers and the hordes of big guys, you need to hold your ground flawlessly.
There's not clean escape routes on that spot, so if you lose your position it turns into a killzone extremely quickly.

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>in a pub server as you do
>team can barely hold a composition for shit and spend 3 waves just trying to find a spot
>was kind of entertaining at first but eventually got bored of it and told them to follow me to an area that works well
>get through with no deaths thanks to it
>"this spots shit too"
>they were all hiding literally as far away from the action and up against the back wall as possible when I told them a formation
>one pubbie suggests kiting is the only way
>doubt.jpg (only because its pubs)
>everyone agrees to it though
>as soon as a fleshpound roared everyone just froze in spot unsure whether to move
>shaking my head as i'm dealing with a scrake too just tell them to move it
>zerk gives me a hand in dealing with the fleshpound on our tail
>up front everyone dies from, I kid you not at least half a dozen sirens all round a corner

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>>151784326

Yeah I've seen Sirens spawn in groups of four.

Forget RULES OF NATURE, this is some THE ONLY THING I KNOW FOR REAL shit.

>>151784326
Joined a pub last night where they attempted to camp at the last trader used.
It went about as well as you'd expect.

Fucking pubs man.

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>>151784840
I'll be honest, between all the lumped screams of sirens pouring in and this non-stop crawler/medic gas blurring my vision, flashing of explosives/fire and how shits chucked at you at every possible second, it gives me a literal migraine sometimes. I can't really enjoy this in large doses without one side of my head hurting and an eye feeling like it will burst from the inside.

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I'm making a custom map at the moment, haven't make one in years or used unreal to make one before but it seems to be going alright.

I've already been over the stuff in the OP but would happily take any tips you might know.

Also curious as to everyone's opinions on dark maps.

please ignore the minimal graphics, this laptop is all I have to work with until I get a job

>>151785613
I'm the opposite. I embrace the slaughter.
This update has been great for LOTV roleplay.

>SWAT has heavy armour and rapid fire weapons with huge mags
>Like a Terran Marine
>Zeds spawn nasty stuff all the time everywhere and now crawlers explode on you doing big damage
>Like the Zerg and Banelings

Shit I love it.

>>151785841
>Also curious as to everyone's opinions on dark maps.
Really overdone as far as custom maps go, even most official ones.

>>151785841
wouldn't mind a brighter version to actually see something so I can give some feedback.
what I can see so far looks quite moody and nice.

>>151785939
Oh i'm not against the rumble the game offers, don't get me wrong, its just its hitting me way harder than I expected it to right now. Doesn't help my vision wasn't the strongest to begin with ;_;

>>151758768
What the fuck
You have god-tier LAR

>>151786068
So you'd rather something more like blackforest or outpost?

>>151786252
If you don't mind some dev textures until I finish getting the outside of the map done then I could upload it now.

>>151786331

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGoUsd-RHqU

Start at 3:30
For my KF2 SWAT beta experience.

>>151786602
was more talking about some brighter screenshots.
On the matter of dark maps, I don't dislike them if they're done proper. Which means they can be dark but:
- shouldn't be too dark (as in if your flashlight is off your whole screen turns black)
- should have some places with some light no matter what

I think Suburbia is a good reference on how to make a dark yet not too dark map with a very nice feel to it.

>>151786997
now that everyone has a flashlight, i'd like to see some dedicated dark maps with minimal forms of lighting.

>>151786997
oh yeah, the screenshot was literally a quick snap to go with the post.

As for the map it's still possible to see where you're going even where there is limited/no lights. I haven't done anything with destructible lights yet.

>team of full-auto scrubs spraying everything they see
>firebug shitter dies in 5 seconds
>big guy wipes out several teammates at once
strangely fitting

>>151789037
meant for>>151786880

>>151789198
you got there eventually

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so what should my swat loadout be by the time i reach the boss? mp7/p90/kriss? have you guys been enjoying swat so far?

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>>151789498
P90, Kriss, DBS or gunslinger weapons of your choice

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Are you SICK and TIRED of that french woman talking down to you?
Would you rather have a japanese lady commentate on your zed killing?
Fear not as I have your needs covered!

This rar contains all the japanese trader lines, just drop the files in the correct folder and you should be good to go, offline AND online.
If you experience issues with it please let me know though.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w8396ctd1vhg1ac/JapTrader.rar?dl=0

Say good bye to that annoying french trader woman!
ALL HAIL GRORIOUS NIPPON!