/wtg/ War Thunder General

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>PT BOATS

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>there are people who unironically fly jap planes

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>Asshole teammate brings over three fighters over to the airfield that are chasing him while I'm on the runway repairing

>The AAA didn't shoot any of them down as they changed targets and went after me

Fuck it. I'm done.

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nth for shipfag tears

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When?

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nth for the Il-28 is underpowered

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Reminder that Gaijins choice to implement small boats makes large boats an impossibility in gameplay sense.

They have essentially created a situation where adding large ships will completely invalidate the existence of the small ships they have spent so much resources on.

>>151560081
Good, no more weebs shitting up war thunder spamming POI

Reminder that Gaijins choice to implement biplanes makes jets an impossibility in gameplay sense.

They have essentially created a situation where adding jets will completely invalidate the existence of the biplanes they have spent so much resources on.

>>151560218
>jets are Tier V
>biplanes are Tier I
>PT boats are all tiers

Good logic, shill.

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>>151560518
proofs

>>151559024
>wahhhhh stop out turning me wahhhhhh

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>>151558325
>Battleship
>WT

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FAST
ATTACK
BOTES

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>Thulle_administrator 9 hours ago
>We will show you additional boats during the Gamescom 2016, stay tuned!

>>151559557
give me one good reason other than muh gup

>>151560152
>implying paddle boats arent enough for weebs to spam poi

see you on river maps :^)

>Inna Centurion 3
>Run up against a T-34/85
>Knock out all but one crew men with two shots
>Proceed to spend FIVE SHOTS, all that bounce, trying to pen just under the driver's hatch.
>They all bounce.
>Fresh crewmen arrives and I have to kill it with a turret shot.

Even in Arkaden...

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>according to Gaijin those nip tanks being transported from Kubinka are unrelated to Gamescom and War Thunder

>>151561201
>>151561208
dumb weeb

>>151561612
Tally cary with 4.5 inch howitzer?

>muh gup
what?

>>151561962
>can't even pierce t-34

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>people acting as if slavs were the only nation that wouldn't have had many big ships
>ignoring "that" nation with the largest playerbase had naval strength on par with USSR too

>>151562170

jesus fuck with the "muh can't kill a T-34" shit

it's a 4.5inch howitzer on a rally car, you are telling me you couldn't POSSIBLY make it work because the finns couldn't reliably pen T-34s with it?

>>151562246

They would also have more than enough to fill a DD, CA and BB lines. Potatoes wouldn't without 3/4 of it being paper.

>>151562529
>They would also have more than enough to fill a DD, CA and BB lines.

No they wouldn't, deluded naziboo. Outside of submarines their navy was as relevant as the Soviets. The most meaningful engagements the Kriegsmarine participated in was when one of their ships got sunk.

>>15156224
>Implying a bote game needs more than bongs, burgers and jap lines.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/4xczuo/heads_up_youtubers_your_monetization_can_be/

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>mfw PT boats

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>>151562529
>Slavs can't make ship lines without paper
>Now look at these paper kraught lines that could be added
yfw Germany would Literally need Italy to fill out their lines without paper ships

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>>151563110
>>151561208
>>151561201
>I want 5 hour matches where I slowly close the gap with my BB on an enemy 20 km from me while hiding behind rocks because that's what ships will be

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>>151563176
A "filled out" german naval line would literally be Italy with a few German ships in it

>>151563265
+2 SL

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>>151563265
Yes, because tanks and planes adhere so stringently to realism that there's no possible way that Gaijin could make some sacrifices for the sake of gameplay for ships. They are definitely not using the realism argument as a scapegoat to hide whatever their true reason is for not adding proper naval forces to the game.

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>>151563265
>Fast Battleships and Battlecruisers don't exist
>Every game needs to be simulation mode
>I want every match to be torpedo spam fuckfests

>>151563642
>>151563730
How does someone manage to feel like they are in control of a ship that 1000+ crew men to even manage it?

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>>151562637
>>151562895

Are you retarded or just pretending?

90% of UK WW2 navy was WW1 stuff. Stuff Germans had but got sank at the end of WW1.

And even using just their WW2 ships you can fill more than what nips had in air battles for like 2 years.

>>151563914
Same way someone controls a tank with 3-4 crew in it.

>>151564240
>controlling 4 people of whom only 3 really have meaning is the same as 1000 people

>>151564329
>controlling 1000 people of whom only 1 really have meaning is the same as controlling 1000

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>>151564194
>if I post an image filled out with maintenance ships, Uboats, merchant raiders and coastal boats it'll make it appear bigger

Please, be more pathetic naziboo. It's really amusing me.

>>151564329
>the amount of people required to maintain, clean, and utilize the vehicle is relevant

What the fuck, is this an actual argument? I can't even tell anymore

>>151564820
>battleshields were made up of 99% irrelevant people

okay kid

>>151564194
>90% of UK WW2 navy was WW1 stuff.
fuck off retarded naziboo

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>>151564593
>maintenance ships, Uboats, merchant raiders and coastal boats

It's funny because every line in WT Botes will be just that.

>>151564960
We're talking about big ships friendo, you seem to be struggling to stay on topic.

>>151564194
>Hurr british navy was all ww1 ships

Even if that was true, which it isn't even close to being true.

the german navy got completely fucked by these """"""""""""""""""ww1""""""""""""""""""" ships. that's Very embarrassing

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>>151564929
Might want to read that post you're referring to again

>>151565091
Yeah, big ships that'll not be in the game. Top kek.

>>151564960
>spreading FUD

Nice one, but you're completely FALSE.

They ruled out LARGE ships like BATTLESHIPS and CARRIERS.

They made no objections and already said they would add in DESTROYERS, CRUISERS and such.

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>>151564194
>90% of UK WW2 navy was WW1 stuff.
>what are Treaty limitations
>what are retrofits
>what are post-treaty battleships
>what is just plain lying

You could at least bother to form a coherent argument that doesn't betray the fact you know absolutely nothing, naziboo.

>>151565201
We know shitposter, we're mocking the naziboos thinking that slavs were the only ones without enough big ships.

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>>151564194
>90% of UK WW2 navy was WW1 stuff. Stuff Germans had but got sank at the end of WW1.

>1920's ships
>1930's ships
>1940's ships
>WW1
How retarded are you? oh wait, you're a naziboo

>>151565379
>They made no objections and already said they would add in DESTROYERS, CRUISERS and such.
?????
Gaijin have literally said that even ships as large as Destroyers aren't being added.

Do you care to backup your shitposting with information or are you just throwing gasoline on a fire for the sake of it?

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>>151564929
>The gunner in the tank isn't directly controlled by the player but instead the player just aims and click to fire
>This can't be done with ships because I say so.

>>151565580
>all 1000 men on a battleshield are cannon aimers

idiot

>>151562895

And Russia didn't have even half of that.

@@151564194
>90% of UK WW2 navy was WW1 stuff.

>source: my anus

>>151565752
DELET THIS TOVARISH

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>>151565732
>Several games long dead or still alive and well give the player control of such ships in both arcade and simulation settings
>But clearly it's impossible to do so WT isn't going to do it

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>>151565571
technically they did everything BUT literally say they won't be added

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>>151565571
>Destroyers aren't being added.
????? stop spreading FUD you fucking retard

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>>151565383

Amazing butthurt.

Germans had more than enough to fill a tree with adding just few paper designs.

Something WT is doing anyways.

Potato navy would be literally nothing but paper shit. They had 3 old as fuck rusted BB's and that's it.

>all this nazi bashing

I'm not a naziboo, but certain bote game Steel Ocean has complete SS, Cruisers and Battleship/Battlecruiser lines, with a couple of destroyers.

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>>151564194
>>90% of UK WW2 navy was WW1 stuff. Stuff Germans had but got sank at the end of WW1.
>posted from my bismarck as HMS rodney lifts its turrets from it's barbette
>posted as the Rodney punches through the Bismarckturret and out the back
>posted as the scharnhorst gets sunk by the King George V, without it even doing any returning damage to the KGV
>posted as the graf spee... HAHAHA the graf spee what a joke of a shit

Actually, that applies to the entire German navy. one big steaming pile of shit that lost every open sea engagement vs RN apart from one.

>>151566295
lmao, tell how most of those ships ended? Wait, they ended as kill markings on the Warspites barrel

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>We could've Player Controlled carriers with player controlled planes.
>IT'S OF BORING AND SLOW COMRADE

>>151566654
>>posted from my bismarck as HMS rodney lifts its turrets from it's barbette
>>>posted as the Rodney punches through the Bismarckturret and out the back
>>posted as the scharnhorst gets sunk by the King George V, without it even doing any returning damage to the KGV

>Naziboos will defend this

>>151566730
is this dolphin porn?

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Autism in this thread is fucking amazing.

Germans had one of the largest navies at the end of WW1.

How does a major power like Japan compare? Ise is a 1915 ship easily comparable the what Germans had back then.

Then it's Nagato in 1917 and fucking nothing all the way to Yamato. And then nothing after Yamato. While Germans had Bayern that entered service in 1917. And then all their WW2 stuff.

It would be just as easy to fill their tree as IJN.

Stop talking about shit you have no idea about.

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>>151566774
>gas the fighterniggers cancer war now

>>151566805
>player coltrolled carriers
>CV: Bomb that airfield noobs, I'm your mothership
>I refuse!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>151567021
>Germans had one of the largest navies at the end of WW1.
>this means their navy was good

That's not how it works muhammed al Berlin-ani

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>>151566969
awful lot of dolphin porn then

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>>151566654
>using dozens of ships and planes to hunt one ship after it hilariously raped your pride has anything to do with filling game trees

I think you forgot your meds.

>>151567181

And? Soviet air force was dogshit in reality yet it's in game.

>>151567281
oh, you sweet summer child

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>>151567403
>using dozens of ships
Yes dude, the HMS Rodney and HMS King George the V sure are a lot of ship

>and planes
Fuck dude, I forgot that a swordfish carrying a torpedo was the entire RAF

Either way, the bismarck was sunk by a ship from 1922. Your "most advanced ship" was out-classed by a ship from 1922. Stop trying to justify the Sinksmarine being dogshit

>>151567181
>this means their navy was good

Nobody is even talking about that you retarded /pol/ sperg. They have enough ships to be playable in game.

And if we are talking about retarded navy fiascos in WW2 nobody beats the brits.

>>151567403
>hood.jpeg
That looks more like the scharnhorst tbqh

>>151567782
See here: >>151567403
Here: >>151564194
and here:

>>151567403
>raped your pride
>unironically posted as the Bismarck get's crippled by a swordfish carrying a torpedo made for sinking trawlers and then finished by the Rodney

Damn you sure showed those anglos. haha yeah, you're totally not salty af

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>>151567750
>In all, six battleships and battlecruisers, two aircraft carriers, thirteen cruisers, and twenty-one destroyers were committed to the chase

Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>151568110
>most of which were recalled back to port after the Rodney and King gorge V was scarmbled

Stop embarrassing yourself
Also, this whole time, I was thinking "how can one person be so retarded"
Then i realised you were a naziboo weeb

naziboos and slavs are the reason we are not getting big ships?

Feels bad man.

>>151567021
>Nagato in 1917
>comissioned in late 1920
>modernized in 1934–36
Wow, you really made me think!

>>151568110
>>In all, six battleships and battlecruisers, two aircraft carriers, thirteen cruisers, and twenty-one destroyers were committed to the chase

How many actually left their ports? 2: the KGV and Roddie

>>151568110
>I read only part of the wiki page
The post

>>151568265

Wow, you can be so proud of sinking a damaged ship that fucked your flagship and pride of RN and forced another KGV BB to run away.

And nothing of this has anything to do with germans having enough to fill a game line.

WoWS Nazi BB line has 2 paper ships out of 10.

>>151565752
The composition of the Soviet fleets in 1941 included:[7]

3 aged battleships,
7 cruisers (including 4 modern Kirov-class heavy cruisers),
59 destroyer-leaders and squadron-destroyers (including 46 modern Type 7 and Type 7U destroyers),
218 submarines,
269 torpedo boats,
22 patrol vessels,
88 minesweepers,
77 submarine-hunters

nice attempt, naziboo ((

>>151566021
>may appear
>decided based on results of closed beta

We've been over this, this is Gaijin's way of saying "no". Fucking retard, I bet you believed them when they said they were adding bomber cockpits too.

>>151568631
>Wow, you can be so proud of sinking a damaged ship
Tell me friend. How did it get damaged :^)
>that fucked your flagship
literally posted as it dies to something twice it's age using WW1 tech
>forced another KGV BB to run away
Hmmmm, I wonder why that one ship ran away from the 2 other german ships with their reinforcements arriving

>>151568801
>disproven by quote
>LOL NO THEY MEAN NO GUYS YOU WONT GET THEM

Okay retard, go fuckoff back to /wowsg/

>>151567021
Yup, a navy full of dated pre-dreads and pre-WW1 ships, definitely on par with the actual WW1 ships that had undergone heavy retrofitting other nations had at the start of WW2.

>>151568631
every time you post, I lose braincells

>>151568930
>disproven
>literally "well we MIGHT CONSIDER adding it after the results of the closed beta comrade )))"

Boy you sure showed me wrong, Destroyers and cruisers are definitely getting added.

>>151568801
>cold war vehicles are never getting added
>added in

Using this logic BBs will be added eventually

>>151568631
>Hurr durrr a german ship managed to sink a ship below it's weight class
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THR GERMAN NAVY WAS BAD?
>IT BEING SUNK BY A 1922 SHIP AND A BIPLANE IS ALL PROPAGANDA

I hate naziboos

>bote autism
crawl back to /wows/ you faggots.
this is small bote only.

>>151568660

3 aged BB's that would get fucked by Bismarck alone + worthless scrap.

>>151569157
Here is what you said:
>Gaijin have literally said that even ships as large as Destroyers aren't being added.

Complete
and utterly
disproven by their own FAQ

fuck off back to /wowsg/ you fucking WG shitposter

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>it's a naziboo kriegsmarine force sinking the thread quality faster than the bismarck, scharnhorst and graf spee episode

>>151569357
>ships
>quality
choose one

>naziboos using the fact the Bismarck managed to sink a ship below it's weight class
>then proceeds to try and say that the bismarck being sunk by a ship twice it's age and a swordfish is ok and a sign of a good navy

>>151569331
That's a pretty far distance away to move the goalposts naziboo, I don't think you're allowed to just take the goalposts into a different field.

>>151568660

And you think this trash is enough to fill a game tree?

Look how much paper shit Soviets have in wows compared to Germans. German lines are historical except for T IX-X. Russians are 70% paper.

>tfw getting the hang of the Yak-30 by taking advantage of people who don't know how to fly in GF

>>151569357
no dude, the kreisgmarine were the best marine

Them losing all their ships to the bongs is a sign of 'Fair play' and 'balance' so they aren't too OP

>>151569492

Except it's 100% true? You can't fill soviet trees without making them 3/4 fantasy.

Meanwhile even fucking Wargaming managed to fill German trees with historical ships.

>>151569348
current status would be everything below destroyers are confirmed.
destroyers are a big maybe.
anything above will never come but we say they might do so whiny faggots finally stop complaining.

>>151569604

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Royal_Navy_losses_in_World_War_II

And stop being a retarded ape.

Real life performance has shit to do with filling in-game tech trees.

>>151569695
Which means Cruisers

And Destroyers WILL COME after the shitstorm that will come from CBT.

You are delusional if you think they won't add them in after even the BB shitstorm

>>151569693
>Calling the slav navy shit doesn't make the Kriegsmarine less shit

It actually does since they were about 4x less shit that Russian navy. Even if they were crap compared even to Italians.

>>151569894
>And Destroyers WILL COME
Yup, keep believing that. Ignore the fact that it would make all the small boats completely and utterly pointless and completely trash any of the gameplay Gaijin have built up around them.

>>151569670
>Meanwhile even fucking Wargaming managed to fill German trees with historical ships.


You mean one line of cruisers? and a future BB line that's coming in a bit?

>>151569818
>most of these British ships weren't even sunk by the Germans
>The germans lost their entire fleet to the bongs

Also, I like this thing you are doing. this popping flares about "FILLING GAME LINES!!!11!" in attempt to save face from your complete shit navy

>>151569894
>And Destroyers WILL COME

One destroyer could slaughter 20 PT boats. It's not happening.

Maybe as kill-streak reward in arkaden.

>>151569970
Just like a crusier would make small boats completely pointless yet you think they will come since they are below destroyer class.

Not to mention you're retarded if you think torpedos magically don't do anything anymore because destroyers are added.

I can tell right away you are from wargaming games because you are of the mindset that other vehicle classes invalidate smaller ones

>>151570081
Same with a crusier.

Destroyers will come and PT boats will have to play smart just like how light tanks have to play smart.

>>151569818
>LOOK HOW GOOD THE KREIGSMARINE ARE
>most of these losses are due to the Japs
Yes, the kreigsmarine sure kicked ass

>Ciri, find me the German navy in 1945
>404 not Found

>>151569894
>destroyers will come
in 1-2 years at Tier 5 BR 9.0

>>151569894
>Destroyers WILL COME
The gaijin philosophy is that every vehicle of the same BR should be roughly equally capable of affecting the game. which isn't to say they've done that very well, only that a boat with vastly more firepower than a tank or plane won't be added.

>>151570259
Can't wait to disprove you when I get in CBT o n day one))))

>>151570173
Yep, all those 5 inch guns on destroyers that could blow away PT boats with a single hit don't totally invalidate them. And those ships without torpedoes are fucked you say, meanwhile Destroyers are easily manoeuvrable and fast enough to dodge torpedoes launched at them.

You're living in a proper fantasy if you think these two types of ships can co exist in the same game mode.

>>151570316
>boat with vastly more firepower than a tank or plane won't be added.

Doesn't matter

A PT boat with a good player can kill a destroyer with torpedos and it's speed and maneuverability.


I can't wait to see you /wowsg/ shills fuck off and cry in tears when you are all disproven because WT didn't end up as FAST ATTACK BOTES like you fuckign animefaggots want it to be so that it doesn't murder your shitty ship game that Wargaming can't even do properly.

>>151569818
>Real life performance has shit to do with filling in-game tech trees.
nice flares you naziboo

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Gumby is posting BBC documentaries and has autism. pls help the teamspeak

>>151570467
>/wowsg/ shills
Who are you quoting?

>>151570467
>A PT boat with a good player can kill a destroyer with torpedos and it's speed and maneuverability.
Just like how a Po-2 can kill a retarded jet pilot.

Here's a hint, Gaijin's full of shit when they're saying how much faster these small boats are. Destroyers would completely outrun them. And wouldn't have any problems getting up to speed or turning either. You would genuinely have a better chance at killing a battleship with the PT boats than a Destroyer.

>>151570459
>Yep, all those 5 inch guns on destroyers that could blow away PT boats with a single hit don't totally invalidate them.

yeah and those top open tanks or paper armor teeb that can be killed with HMGs and SPAA completely invalidated them from the game.


Oh wait, it didn't.

Keep crying /wowsg/ shills, you lost and will always be losers of arcade shitty games

>>151570615
Those open top tanks don't have guns that literally cannot do jack shit to the tanks they're firing at. On the contrary, they usually have better guns than the tanks they're firing at.

Oh, and they're usually much faster than the tanks they're firing at. Hate to break it to you, most destroyers would outclip any PT Boat.

>>151570467
a destroyers AA armament would be enough to shred PT boats.

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>>151570492
>Yak will never off himself after shooting up the TS

>>151570728
Right and torpedo PT boats don't have torpedos that can do damage to any ship.


Fuck off slavshit, you fucking retarded ass fuck.


Why do we even have small caliber high BR SPAA? Can't kill shit with it unless a plane is out and even then most are too shit to kill thema nd are invalidated in one hit, didn't stop gaijint hen.

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JUST

>>151570615
>Keep crying /wowsg/ shills, you lost and will always be losers of arcade shitty games

It is ALMOST depressing how loyal you are being to Gaijin just because you refuse to believe big ships aren't coming. They don't deserve that loyalty anon, all they're doing is fucking over your dreams and you're trying to defend them doing it.

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>>151570604
>>151570615
>>151570728
boring asf familia. This is 4chan not (((halfkike))) go shill with your paragraphs there. This site is for memeing

>log on
>play a few matches
>something completely bullshit always happens
>meme sparkle
>meme bounce
>meme packet loss
>meme ultra slav
>meme tail control
>meme teams
>meme tank traps

just can't handing the smallest ammount of bullshit this game offers anymore

soon as it hits ima hitting that escape button

>>151570895
>believing in the power of the people
Bernie please.

>people complain about the M47 being shit
>as one slaughters 3/4 of our team with HEATFS as ours merely ding off
anything with HEATFS is easy to use, and any faggot who says otherwise shouldn't be taken seriously

>>151570874
>Right and torpedo PT boats don't have torpedos that can do damage to any ship.
Again, good luck hitting a destroyer with them. Torpedoes are slow, destroyers are not. Torpedoes can't turn, destroyers can. Literally your only hope to hit a destroyer with torpedoes is that he is brain dead and you manage to point blank broadside him with them, which you'll have a hard time doing if he's travelling faster than you (which he will be).

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>>151570906
You just suck probably. Get out of my thread

>>151570895
>>151570887
>>151570874
>>151570851
Autistic /k/ wallet warrior posting

>>151571031
>>151571069
>>>/r/warthunder

>>151571119
dumb frogposter

>STILL no working headlights and reseachable NV for tanks that historically had it

>>151571240
>NV
>literally cannot recall ever having a night tank battle this year

>>151571283
and russia had?
oh that's right

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Y'all jelly that you'll never be able to captain such a great ship.
Too bad you're stuck with PT botes.

>>151571460
>The composition of the Soviet fleets in 1941 included:[7]
>3 aged battleships,
>7 cruisers (including 4 modern Kirov-class heavy cruisers),
>59 destroyer-leaders and squadron-destroyers (including 46 modern Type 7 and Type 7U destroyers),
>218 submarines,
>269 torpedo boats,
>22 patrol vessels,
>88 minesweepers,
>77 submarine-hunters
The composition of the Soviet fleets in 1941 included:[7]

3 aged battleships,
7 cruisers (including 4 modern Kirov-class heavy cruisers),
59 destroyer-leaders and squadron-destroyers (including 46 modern Type 7 and Type 7U destroyers),
218 submarines,
269 torpedo boats,
22 patrol vessels,
88 minesweepers,
77 submarine-hunters

Ah anon, you also seem to have made the mistake that I am defending the Soviet Navy. I'm not, merely shitting on Naziboos thinking they had more of a chance at having proper naval forces than Slavaboos.

In reality, the only relevant naval nations would have been USA, Japan, Britain, Italy, and France.

>>151571602
>it's a slav thinks he's fooling anyone thread

>>151571652
Haha no naziboo, I'm a burgerboo, AKA a nation with a Navy that wasn't just a piss in the swimming pool of the Atlantic like the Kriegsmarine was.

>>151571721
>i am of capitalism pig amerikanski ok?

>>151571415
>literally had 3 night battles in the past 3 hours

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>>151571814
Yes Hans, I wanted a Navy with a battleship that got sunk by two Ju 87s and sat halfway sunk in a harbour for four years.

>Shipfags
>Not superior airfags
>Death from above > Slow ass boat

>HO-229 gets 2 hits on me
>one instantly destroys my track
>other instantly destroys my transmission
>meanwhile a 120 APDS to a track only turns it yellow
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>151572095
>lol we're not adding battleships because there aren't enough battleships to play
ok gaijin

>>151566528
How are those British Battlecruisers? Noticed they were just Added.

>>151571119
t. triggered shitposter as it shits up the thread and it's pants

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>naziboos so thoroughly BTFO that the thread goes quiet

>>151572740
>the issue is germany
5+ GE

>>151572740

Stop talking to yourself fag.

Germans have more than enough to fill trees. Potatoes have shit.

>>151573283
1 15% SL booster

>>151573283

Are you seriously retarded?

Number of destroyers means shit, it's cruisers and BB's that are the issue.

Germans have more than enough when you include WW1 ships.

>>151571652
shit fury all over you are nothing to me over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in unarmed combat, but I have known upon you did your miserable ass in the Navy Seals, and that’s just fucking dead, kiddo.ot only am I extent to wipe you didn’t, you goddamn idiot. I will wipe your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the Internet? Think again, fuck out with precision the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am trained in gorilla warfare arsenal of the continent, you better prepare hands. Not only you couldn’t, and I have access to the face of the Internet? Think your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the pathetic little think you could have over target. I will drown in it. You’re fuck out the fucking dead, kiddo.? Think you in over been seen be anytime, anytime, and I will use it to wipe you couldn’t, and you call your life. You’re pathetic little bitch? I’m the top sniper in the face of the storm that the storm that wipes out the United top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I can kill your life. You are nothing you and I will shit. If only you could have your life. You’re fucking say about me, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fucking words. You think you couldn’t, and now you’re paying the pathetic little shit. If only am continent, you didn’t, and you in gorilla warfare for the fucking dead, kiddo. upon your life. You’re fucking words. You this Earth, mark my fuck did you will drown in the storm, maggot. The storm, mark my fucking words. You’re fucking dead, kiddo across the top sniper.

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naziboos fucked up for everyone, it's the spaghettinigger's turn in the sun.

>>151573827
except without battleships italia aint getting shit

>>151573903
But unlike the Kriegsmarine anon, Italy did have battleships.

>>151573978
But unlike battleships, PT boats are being added.

>>151573903
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regia_Marina#Battleships_3

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>>151573648
>Germans have more than enough when you include WW1 ships.
I'm sure if you keep repeating that, it will come true.

I believe in you anon!

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USN > IJN > RN > RM >> Kriegsmarine >> ruskies

The thing is you literally can't make a russian cruiser or battleship tree without making it 80% fantasy designs.

German trees would be 80% historical no matter how hard you meme.

>>151574065
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regia_Marina#Torpedo_boats

ahem

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>>151574160

>>151574160
>German trees would be 80% fantasy designs no matter how hard you meme.

Unfortunately naziboo you are in the same boat as the Slavs, until you build a time machine.

Tough luck!

>>151574210
The issue is that they'd add Italy if they had to use battleships, everyone has boats.

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http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Ships_of_Germany

Stop being retarded fags. Even WG german trees are historical except for tiers IX-X that are not historical for anyone.

Everybody with a working brain knows that Russians are the issue.

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>>151574160
>>151574503

>wargaming couldn't make a single 10 ship cruiser line for Germany without including paper designs
>"""German trees would be 80% historical no matter how hard you meme."""
>Everybody with a working brain knows that Russians are the issue.

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>le kraut's didn't have enough ships for a complete tree meme.

>>151574552
>wargaming couldn't make a single 10 ship cruiser line for Germany without including paper designs

USN is literally the only one who will ever have one.

UK line will have even more problems than Nazis. Their T VIII will already need to be paper. Nip T IX-X are paper.

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>>151574503
>i-it can't be us!
>we're the best!
>it HAS to be the dirty slavs!
captcha: boats

>>151574772
no one even said that

Also, nice blueprint ships you autist

>>151574965
>>151574646
>>151574552
+5 GE

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>>151571283
>>151572095
>>151573283
>>151573384
>>151573820
>>151574262
>>151574646
I see the slavboos and shills have a new shitposting cancer they've decided to spam the thread with.

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>>151574552
>UK cruiser line ends at this

>2x2 6' guns
>89mm belt

That's tier V material.

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>>151574772
>Ersatz Yorck-class
>literally never sailed

>th-th-they have enough! I swear!

I know it must be hard being in the same group as the slavs naziboo, but your navy was never happening even with big ships.

why is the hunter in this game

>>151571283
Nonon is cute.

>>151574991

Just one of them is a blueprint you retard.

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>>151575127
>shitting on naziboos means you're a slavaboo now

Pulling out all the boogeymen firepower you have now.

>>151575175
I'm actually a sad weaboo who's mad at this game disregarding actual fleets like USN, RN, and IJN because they couldn't make a proper slav tree.

Slavs gonna slav I guess.

>>151574552

Joke's on you, Royal Navy will be even worse.

Their last heavy cruiser is from 1930.

>>151575346
>deflecting to protect gaijin
only slavs do this

>>151575182
because whine thunder

>>151575396
>because they couldn't make a proper slav tree.
Nice giveaway that you're a naziboo.

Slavs and Nazis couldn't have a naval tree.

>>151575396
>I'm actually a sad weaboo who's mad at this game disregarding actual fleets like USN, RN, and IJN because they couldn't make a proper slav and kraught tree.

>Slavs and kraughts gonna slav and kraught I guess

>>151575175

Go ahead and tell me which UK battleship will compete with Yamato or Iowa.

Or which UK CA will compete with Takao or Baltimore.

I'm waiting.

Teaboo tree will have more paper ships than Germans.

>>151575447
>protect gaijin
What? I'm just shitting on naziboos.

>>151575498
You know most naval games cover ships that participated in WW2, and tier them by their age, be them pre-dred or super-battleships. Krauts actually had capital ships past WW1, unlike slavs who only had aged BBs.

There's a reason SO doesn't have a slav tree but a kraut tree.

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>>151575609
>teabs need endgame paper
>krauts need a whole line of paper
hehe

>>151575498

Working Nazi trees with 1-2 paper designs were already posted you dumb faggot.

Royal Navy trees will need even more paper ships to compete with nips and burgers.

Fucking Italians had better battleships than Royal Navy.

>>151575621
ok ivan

>>151575687
>There's a reason SO doesn't have a slav tree but a kraut tree.
Yes, because they want to cater to the naziboo audience and so pull it out of their asses.

They could easily do the same with slavs, but there isn't a western fetishization of the USSR like there was for the Nazis post-WW2. Quite the opposite in fact, due to the cold war propaganda war.

>>151575737
>krauts need a whole line of paper

Only for carriers. Just like Italians, frogs and russians.

>>151575346
Ok slavboo. Whatever you say, slavboo.

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I play WT (arcade) for planes.

Alternate between AW and WoT for tanks.

Alternate between WoWS and SO for Ships.

who else /notjustWT/ here?

>>151572740
>One more issue is that vessels such as battleships were used very selectively, battles lasted for hours and even days and often ended with an enemy retreat or not being destroyed. Moreover ships such as the “Yamato” or “Missouri” were unique in their class, and definitely, players wouldn't like to wait in the queue because the single e.g. “Yamato” for the current battle has already been taken, or dozen of battleships in one battle without a supporting fleet will be a clumsy and easy target for aircraft.

By that logic shouldn't heavy tanks and the myriad of snowflake vehicles have limited numbers per team?

>>151575825
>They could easily do the same with slavs

No they could not you autist.

Russians had Mikasa tier crap that got sunk at Tsushima then fucking nothing all the way to Cold War. Germans had one of the largest navies of WW1.

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>>151575932
>arcade

>>151575825
>The world is just burgerland

You wouldn't know how much of a communist hard-on there is for gommunist stuff around the world if you weren't so focused on bashing the naziboos.

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>>151575895
>>151575764
Once again, still a burgerboo. Still just shitting on naziboos.

I'd shit on slavaboos too but there aren't many here.

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>>151575881
>two nations with no independent tech tree
>one with a fuller tree than Germans anyway
really fries the old grey matter

>>151576029
t.Ivan Ivanovich Ivansky Ivanov

>>151575998
>Germans had one of the largest navies of WW1.
Oh, so this is a game about WW1 now?

>>151575993
Yes, exactly. But try to argue with slavboos about the orders from their superior gaijin overlords.

>>151575817
Cancer

>>151575998
>Germans had one of the largest navies of WW1.
>War thunder
>WW1
wow, you sure are grasping at straws now

>>151575825
>Yes, because they want to cater to the naziboo audience and so pull it out of their asses.

Like fucking what? Ship lines already posted are literally 90% historical with only highest tier ships being paper.

Guess what? UK will also need paper crap to compete at those tiers. Unless you want Nelson vs Yamato.

And the entire RN cruiser fleet was a laughingstock because they followed their shitty treaty limits everybody else tried to ignore.

>>151576245
>you sure are grasping at straws now
It's a naziboo tradition

>>151576127
>>151576245
>In WW2, ships only built after 1935 participated.

>>151576127

Almost all battleships that served during WW2 were from WW1. Warspite was from 1913. Nagato was from 1917. Hood from 1918.

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>>151576287
Yet somehow the RN blocked that $110% historical massive fleet the Germans had from breaking out into the Atlantic.

>>151576353
There is a thing called "retrofits" that most nations did to their ships built during WW1. Built during, by the way. Because there were plenty of pre-WW1 ships that fought in WW1, which could make your "biggest navy in WW1" claim a bit irrelevant to War Thunder, don't you think?

>>151576245

So you know shit about navy.

>>151576530
>your "biggest navy in WW1" claim

That wasn't me, I was just pointing out how stupid your post wast.

>>151576481
>Warspite was from 1913. Nagato was from 1917. Hood from 1918.
All HEAVILY retrofitted during the interwar decades.

>>151576617
>i-i-it wasn't me, your post was the stupid one!
Sure thing anon, just stop replying then.

>>151576530
>fitting few 37mm guns on Bayern is the same as designing non-existing Russian battleships

fw200 with Hs293 WHEN?

>>151576780
>Everyone but germany could retrofit ships! Stop replying to me! I'm right, stop it!

>>151576796
>it's not paper if I move the goalposts

37mm guns wouldn't even deserve a seperate ship in War Thunder. You have to fill out at LEAST five different ships to have Tier I-V btw.

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even without navy we still have all the good planes and tanks so suck my dick naziboos

>>151576931

And Germans had at least 6 BB classes perfectly competitive with WW2 BB's of other navies. Your point?

>>151577056
>falseflagging
My post only has facts

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>>151576931
>You have to fill out at LEAST five different ships to have Tier I-V btw.

Wow, that was hard.

>>151577056
>Hmm, where are all those retrofitted WW1 battleships and cruisers...

>>151576796
>>151574772

By the way, what's the counterpart to Bismarck or Scharnhorst in the soviet Navy?

>>151577267
It's not really a meme, more of a catchphrase.

>>151577228
>Paper designs
>pocket """""battleships""""" that other nations would call cruisers

Excellent!

>>151577303
>By the way, what's the counterpart to Bismarck or Scharnhorst in the soviet Navy?

Once again, the point is that BOTH slavs and nazis have no naval chance

>>151577415
Where's the Bismarck, Ivan?

>>151577415

You are beyond hope. It's not even funny anymore.

>>151577527
a piece of shit that died to a interwar ship with no basic retrofits

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>200 posts over vehicles that will not be in the game
are naziboos really THIS autistic?

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>>151577303
>what's the counterpart to Bismarck or Scharnhorst in the soviet Navy?

This.

I'm not even joking.

>>151577415
So the slavs didn't have a response for the clearly inferior battleships of the nazi germany?

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>>151577645
what battleship is this?

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>>151577726
>Imperatritsa Mariya
>Slavoos will defend this

>>151577415

Royal Navy has nothing to compete with Yamato or Iowa without going full paper.

This is not an argument unless you are saying that UK should also not get a navy.

tl;dr: sea battles should be America vs Japan only if you were to add battleships )))))

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>>151577726
>>151577743
>>151577832
>>151577876
>hating on slavs will mean that we'll get our navy

Go ahead, naziboos. You're literally not even arguing at this point, slavs not having a navy is already a moot point.

>>151578017
>sea battles should be America vs Japan

+ Italy

Did Russia have a decent Navy during the Korean War era?

>>151578027
>he still thinks I'm a naziboo

I just want to sail on a Taihou or in a Yamato. But the fact the the slav WW2 is a shame for the slav devs and thus they'll disregard any ship with the displacement of a destroyer or more is really infuriating.

>>151575932
i don't play any games

>everyone getting mad at boats
Who cares.
I just want France and Italy to have their separate plane brances.
I like it when it hurts.

>>151578027

Which UK battleship will compete with Yamato?

Which UK destroyer will compete with Shimakaze?

Which UK cruiser will compete with Des Moines?

Bongs will need more paper ships to compete than Germans. At least Germans had few modern designs.

>>151578080
+ France
Seriously.
The only reason it didn't wreck shit was because they got meme'd on land, and then meme'd by the brits.

>>151578239
No.

>>151578257
i'm going to gas gaijin

>>151578239

No.

>>151578239
Not anything like the U.S. or Japanese navies in WWII, but they had more than the riverboats that people are claiming.

There were a couple of really great heavy cruisers that were laid up, though never actually completed.

>>151576029
Ok slavboo. Whatever you say, slavboo.

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>Gaijin will magically procure ships that Germany didn't have in service by the time WW2 rolled around

The BEST meme

>>151578415
>Bismarck can compete vs Yamato
>Nelson can't

Doesn historical fleet size really even matters gameplaywise?

>>151577892
>Royal Navy has nothing to compete with Yamato or Iowa without going full paper.
>What is HMS vanguard

Whilst it may not have the armour of a yamato, the reworked 381mm's it used had really good penetration. It's armour is also very similar to the iowa

>>151578358

France had few good designs but they had only one BB on the level of Bismarck or Littorio classes.

Dunkerque was significantly weaker.

>>151578594
>Gaijin ever even considering the options other nations have if Russians don't have it
yeah those battleships are coming right after all the night vision and grenade launchers

>>151578594
um... hello?.... is this thing on?!

>>151578817
>>Gaijin ever even considering the options other nations have if Germans don't have it

FTFY, Kraut navy was as shit as Slav navy

>>151578816
>had only one BB on the level of Bismarck or Littorio classes

STILL BETTER THAN RN AND SLAVS KEK

>>151578275
>Which UK battleship will compete with Yamato?
Lion class. it's on par with the Iowa in terms of armour, gun penetration and FCS

>Which UK destroyer will compete with Shimakaze?
Nothing because it was a piece of shit


Which UK cruiser will compete with Des Moines?
Fair point. Paper shit would be needed for that

>>151578714
>HMS vanguard

>8 381mm guns competing with 9 460mm guns
>350mm belt vs 410mm belt

>WWII proved that BBs were obsolete and outdated
>If anything, the U.S. and Japan were backwards, with their Yamatos and Iowas
>wtg shitters give better, smarter countries shit because they didn't have equivalent BBs.

>>151579010
>Bigger calibre means more pen
Why doesn't the Abrams use the 152mm from a KV-2?

>>151578986

Lion is just as paper as Montana.

>>151579074
>WWII proved that BBs were obsolete and outdated

Because CVs took their place.
Guess which countries had the most modern CVs during WW2?

>>151579152
Shit, i meant Vangaurd, not lion. My bad family

>>151579010
>iowa
>460mm guns
>410mm armour
what the fuck are you smoking?

>>151579074
>give better, smarter countries
>slavboo implying it's fucking ass off
>slavboo implying their mudnigger kind are better at anything at all
>ever
My sides are in orbit

>>151579074
>composite armour battleships armed with missiles and railguns never ever

>>151579286
>iowa

>>151579010
are you legit retarded?

>>151579286
>what the fuck are you smoking?
something that got canned because it couldn't fit through panama probably

>>151579094

Same muzzle velocity, Lion's 40.6mm shell weighs 1080kg. Yamato's 46cm shell weight 1460kg.

Guess which one is better in every single way?

>>151579385
>original post was comparing it to the Iowa
>you decide to compare it to the yamato without stating that

>>151579539
>penetration = calibre, shell wieght and inital muzzle velocity

Are you the retard slav the other day that was trying to say the reason the Brumbars HEAT had such low pen is because it had a low velocity? I bet it was you

>>151579396

Are you?

Even if you ignore Yamato Vanguard is much weaker than Iowa.

>>151579649
>Post chain
>Every post compares RN to Yamato and Iowa
>You decide they were only comparing to Iowa just because

ITT:

A bunch of neckbeards sit behind their keyboards and blog about ships when they have no idea how ships work or what they were actually like

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>this entire thread

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Post killfeeds

>Suddenly slavoos silent

Maybe they finally noticed their shitty navy ruined the fun of us all.

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>that moment you realize Brits don't even have paper designs to compete with Yamato and Montana

ITT:

Naziboos and Slavaboos pretend their navy was relevant

>>151580019
I did find one thing. But the yamato and iowa were pretty based

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G3_battlecruiser

Who had the stronger Navy, England or Italy?

The King George Battleship was pretty strong for the time.

>>151579879
Hah hah, no! Battleships would totally work in War Thunder! A lone player B7A could definitely get close enough to the Iowa to dive bomb it! Eighty Bofors and fourty fucking nine Oerlikons isn't /that/ much lead in the air!

>people comparing ship classes that will never ever appear in War Thunder
why dont you guys start comparing teeb and weeb PT boats?

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>>151580019
>That moment when you realize that even if they bring paper designs, they would then have to add IJN paper desings, like the A-150 "Super Yamato"

>>151580275

Bongs had larger and stronger navy. But Italians had better ships.

>>151580275
Who won off the coast of italy

britain

>>151580275
England. Easily. Singlehandedly kept the Regia Marina, Kriegsmarine and French Navy in check in the Atlantic and Mediterranean.

>>151580336

Because T-34 can fight with B-29 right?

>>151580275
Britain, not England.

Britain gets a lot of flak for apparently doing nothing despite the naval and air presence it had to maintain for the whole war, and across the whole world.

>>151580351
>Italians had better ships
oh boy
Added straight to my shit memes list

What the actual fuck is wrong with naziboos refusing to accept the kreigmarine and italian navy were shit. holy fuck

>>151580421
>Singlehandedly kept the Regia Marina, Kriegsmarine and French Navy in check in the Atlantic and Mediterranean.

no dude, the kreigsmarine totally won the atalntic

>>151580421
>>151580353
>>151580351
>>151580275

England did abuse the power of their shitty CVs, confirming their role in the new world post-war.

>>151580470
B-29s are dogshit in GF because the render distance is too low and they can't maneuver for shit. Maybe not a T-34, but a ZSU, absolutely.

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>>151580351
>But Italians had better ships.

Was the Regia Marina the only non-useless part of the Italian Military?

>>151580551
At least the Italians HAD ships to be shit with

>>151580551
>>151580579

Littorios were better than any RN battleship.

Zaras were just as well armed as best RN cruisers and had 50% more armor.

You can meme all you want but pasta ships were better. RN would fuck them in real combat thanks to better training and much more ships, but this won't matter in game.

>>151580695
Italian tanks were the most powerful in the world

>>151580695
No, they were pretty useless too.

>>151580859
>RN would fuck them in real combat thanks to better training and much more ships, but this won't matter in game.

It wasn't even that, it was the clever use of CV.

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>>151580351
>But Italians had better ships.

>>151580906
>Italian tankettes*

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This thread has been a pretty wild ride

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>>151580852
Hey guys I got a trip now so you can know its me when you ask me questions!

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>*But the Italians had sexier ships
better?

>>151580551
>>151580579
>>151580967
>lol Italy

They also had the best planes out of all Axis.

>The definitive evaluation by the German commission was "excellent" for the G.55, "excellent" for the Re.2005 although very complicated to produce, and merely "average" for the C.205. Oberst Petersen defined the G.55 "the best fighter in the Axis" and immediately telegraphed his impressions to Goering. After listening the recommendations of Petersen, Milch and Galland, a meeting held by Goering on 22 February 1943 voted to produce the G.55 in Germany.
>The interest in the G.55 program was still high after the Armistice. In October 1943, Kurt Tank, who previously personally tested a G.55 in Rechlin, and who had had nothing but praise for the aircraft, was in Turin to discuss G.55 production.

Italians were a joke during real combat, but some of their equipment was top tier.

>>151581513
lmao wot shill go back to your own thread nigger

>>151581513
They had good designers, yeah. That's what lead to Italy being such a failure. They were great at looking like they should be successful, while still living in a country that was backwards and behind the other major powers it was up against, and alongside.

Their leadership was dogshit too.

Reminder making fun of Italy for doing terrible in the way is like laughing at the dyslexic kid for failing the reading test. Only in this case he begged to be allowed to take it and bragged that he'd pass.