/wtg/ War Thunder General

FIRST IMPRESSIONS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjwCdI1rz7A&feature=youtu.be

>>151388973

>torpedo ships when every ship will be a race fast
>submarine chasers when we have no subs

What the fuck are the point of these?

>>151389098
Only "Ships" the USSR had successes with

Daily reminder: Teebs are not welcome here, and we will gas them on sight.

/kspg/ refugee planning to burn /vg/ to the ground this weekend

AMA

>>151389250
>/kspg/ refugee planning to burn /vg/ to the ground this weekend
explain
I haven't been to kspg for years and the last thing I remember was mechpleb shitposting

>>151389250
Will you gas the teebs?

>>151389089
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!

>>151389376
What was it?

>During the closed test, we will gradually fill the naval line which will take us to the start of the open test where we anticipate having enough boats of all 5 ranks for every major nation.
>having enough boats of all 5 ranks for every major nation.
>every major nation.

So they could have said 'every nation', but chose to say 'every major nation'

Who isn't a major nation /wtg/?

>>151389472
WT trailer with flipstagram

wouldnt be suprised if gaijin is already on full damage control

>>151389570
Anything not US, IJN, KM and slav?

>>151389570
britain :^)

>>151389570
Italy, Australia, etc.

>>151389570
>'every nation
would imply every nation ever
the nations we have in-game are the major nations
or at least that would make sense

>>151389723
good goy

>>151389325
We're being moderated by someone claiming we can't be a general unless we love our developer

He's also selectively excluding anons he doesn't like

>>151389354
Maybe we can help each other out. Tell us about their crimes.

>>151389570
Nippon wont get botes

>>151389250
>some of you are right, don't go to /vg/ this weekend
w e w

Man all I wanted to do was be a comfy carrier and help all the plane bros at sea.Can we remove Gaijin from this plane of existence yet?

>>151389570

It's fucking PT. Do you realize how easy it would be to fill all tiers with them? They are literally all the same shit.

Do i need to buy both boat packs or just one to get into CBT?

>>151390284
gaijin firebombed when?

>there are shills right now astroturfing this thread
wew

>>151389941
>We're being moderated by someone claiming we can't be a general unless we love our developer
>He's also selectively excluding anons he doesn't like
Post proof, shitposter.

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>big ships are too slow

>PT-109
>41kn

>Shimakaze
>40.9kn

Even fucking Bismarck is just 1/4 slower.

>>151389098
>Larger vessels, while not available for control by players, but will be presented under the control of AI in some game modes. One of the main tasks of combat torpedo boats will be the destruction of larger ships.

We dont get big ships because AI need them for lemmings to get free kills

I think having destroyers be the largest vessels is a good thing, lot less guns and armor than BBs and if you don't want ballpit-level gun dispersion or undervalued torpedo bulges to compensate the best thing would be to stick to smaller vessels that can more easily harm each other.

>>151390561
I would play the fuck out of DDs, but fucking PT botes are a no.

>>151389941
They shit up the whole thread talking about people that play every other faction than their own saying things like they collude to hide how overpowered their things are. Meanwhile, their own things haven't been nerfed since the game went into open beta years ago.

>>151390445
This is an example of a teeb. He's just really going all out to shitpost and derail the thread because he can't spend his welfare money on a Gaijin fix anymore now that everyone is awakening to their bullshit with the torpedo boat release.

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>tfw speedsluts never

>>151390346
You need to buy both packs and make another purchase over 50 usd in order to get in. This test will only be open for valued customers.

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>>151389472
>>151389572
>>151389089

SORRY, uploaded the wrong video, meant to upload this one which is edited correctly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr-EdRnATZQ&feature=youtu.be

PROPER first impressions.

>>151390774
i dare you to post it on wt live :^)

>>151390774
Fucking kek, yea, this is a much better video.
>Subway
had me on the floor

>>151390490
it's pretty odd
gaijin also don't want one-shots, so it makes no sense to only have small botes

>>151390561
I think gaishills belong in the chamber.
>>>/gaschamber/

>>151391026
>Gaijin doesn't want one-shots.
>Get shot with AP.
>One single fragment of the shell passes through the postal code of my ammo, igniting it and killing me instantly.

>>151391276
Ammoracks being the obvious exception. Even then it's not guaranteed.

>tfw I am a gaishill
>tfw just hearing anyone say gaschamber in real life triggers me now
>tfw I can never wake up
>tfw I do it for free
>tfw they will never understand
>tfw

>>151391073
>I want boat gameplay to have artificial and unrealistic values that need to be constantly fiddled with to offer a 'balansed' shitty WoWs clone but without healthbars.

>>151390660
t. triggered shill as it shits up the thread

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>>151390774

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>>151391546

what is your main tank?
l luv my t34
managed to kill the shit out of a tiger II with it once

>>151391770
kys shill

>>151391546
>>151391576
t. man defending gaijin for not simulating ship flooding

>announce boats
>)))))))))))))))))))))))))) no big boats tovarish ))))))) too slow

This is just fucking sad. I can't even laugh at this.

>>151391861
fuck off. botes are gamerelated now

>>151391950
meanwhile we have longrange strategic bombers in low earth orbit

>>151391861
Gassing teebs is always a contribution. Now get into the chamber.
>>>/gaschamber/

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>no large ships

Game is actually dead to me with this announcement.

THIS WHOLE THREAD IS A GAIJIN HOLOCAUST

Can't believe Gaijin realised that big ships are a mistake and can't be balanced.

>>151392523
+10 GE

>>151392523
>this is the cancer mods refuse to ban

>>151392523
>teeb detected
>>>/gaschamber/
Heh, got one.

>>151392498
Killer yourself you cancerous attention whore

>>151392549
>battleships destroying battleships
tip top kek

thats what planes and torpedos are for.

>>151392825
+10 GE

>>151392825
>planes

Do you enjoy 12 whirbelwinds gunning you down instantly?

>>151393027
fuck off to your thread and bring your shit pets with you

>>151393101
thats what would happen if you get player controlled big ships.
with AI you simply get the current clouds of ineffective AA.

>>151393103
>>151392803
>This incalcuable teeb asspain
>>>/gaschamber/

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>>151393027
Know your place

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>>151393027

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>Guys i would like to remind you that encouraging players not to buy is a violation of the rules. Please keep this in mind when replying. Thanks

>1.1.7. Encourage other users to stop playing the game, or encourage users to avoid purchasing any content from the store, in order to prove a point.

>>151393283
Then fuck off, period

>>151393447
don't you want to burn squadcast with us?

today at twitch dot tv slash ksptv

6pm est

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>>151392523
>WG did this and WoWS is slowly gaining popularity and players with almost 10x more streams on twitch than WT

>lol guys it can't be done, bravo Gaijin!

>>151393374
oh man, a new thing for me to report people for
I wonder when gaijin will realize muting people for peanuts only hurts the game

>>151393563
>>151393563
It's just a teeb shill doing it for free. He will say literally anything so long as he can get the last word establishing he'd suck Gaijin's cock if it splurged GE all over his obese beady-eyed crooked yellow teeth face.

been playing for like a week now with joystick. I can't even remember last time I got a kill

why do i suck so damn much

>>151393374
That's not actually a thing, right?

>>151393374
fuck off gaijinshill

Who here bought both packs?

Bote club when?

>>151394021

Buyers remorse edition?

>>151393820
>why do i suck so damn much
It's not even you at least two thirds of the time. Most of the people that played this game in simulator with joysticks quit because hackers would enable mouse-aim in simulator or use gunships with an aimbot to just kill everyone in sim battles

Mouse-aim is controlled by a bot that makes the plane fly in impossible ways, andnevermind it also lets you make regular shots from one kilometer way which you can never replicate with a joystick because that's the least of your worries. The Bf-109's compressability problems at high speeds aren't even a problem for mouse players because the bot just compensates for them. It's like having a vectoring jet engine. It's so fucking stupid.

>>151394021
Nice try shill no more money to Gayjew

>>151394021
I think it's dumb to write botes off as shit before any actual gameplay is shown, hopefully gamescom will put me off buying one of the packs.

>>151393820
what this anon said >>151394209 plus planes in WT dont really have flightmodels

>>151394346
>he said this in tanks cbt too
Fuck off, Teeb shill.
>>>/gaschamber/
Heh, got one.

>>151394209
well that's depressing

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HOLY FUCK I AM SO HAPPY NOW

GAIJIN LITERALLY SAVED SHIPS

THEY LITERALLY CANT FUCK UP SHIPS NOW

THERE IS NO WAY GAIJINCAN STAIN MY PRECIOUS BIG SHIPS WITH THEIR HAND NOW

MY EUROPA-FU AND H39-FU ARE SAVED, NEVER TO BE TOUCHED BY GAIJIN

ALL BATTLESHIPS, CARRIERS, ALL CAPITAL AND ESCORT SHIPS ARE FUCKING SAVED FROM THEIR FILTHY PAWS


THANK GOD

>>151394515
ok yak

>>151394482
DCS is alright. You should give it a shot if you're serious about keeping your joystick. There's also Rise of Flight which is WW1 planes.

>>151394021
>2016
>giving gaijin money

i just cant wait for the videos of shilldaily and cuckvongames

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>>151394515
ALSO I FUCKING CALLED IT LIKE TWO DAYS AGO

I FUCKING TOLD YOU

>RUSSIA VS BURGERS RELEASE

I FUCKING WARNED YOU AND YOU DIDNT LISTEN

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>>151394021
https://store.gaijin.net/user.php?view=purchases

proofz

>>151394724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU-kuEymL30
I haven't even watched it.

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>wows is surprisingly fun
>wondering how gaijin is going to fuck this one up

Amazing. They exceeded my expectations.

>>151394761
most of us already knew

>>151394982

You can't play as large ships.

Only small boats.

Exceeded expectations, indeed.

>nips tanks nearly nonexistent
>gaijin doesnt add them
>slavs fleet is nearly nonexistent
>gaijin adds it as first nation with premium

>>151393563
>slowly gaining popularity
nice meme. the game had a real chance but even Wargaming themselves don't know how they should balance this clusterfuck.

also Wargaming doesnt plan to combine tanks, planes and ships into a single match.
player controlled battleships and cruiser would have no enemies on the battlefield besides subs which dont exist.

>>151394681
thanks for the recommendations

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>>151395152
>start trailer
>wew those ships look like crap, straight out as they are ingame now
>holy shit those gun effects literally don't exist

>read further
>NO big ships at all, not even fucking frigates

THEY ALWAYS FUCK IT UP

>>151395407

Are you even playing wows? You get games in 10s even at 3am. Shitloads of people play it. Much more than WT right now.

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>>151395407

>submarines
>not exclusively merchant ship bully
>not getting rekt by any actual fighting craft

Inb4 Kongou was sunk by one.

>>151395407

Gaijin can't even balance tanks and planes. Ships wouldn't make it worse.

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>>151395728
>expecting a destroyer escort in your fat unmaneuverable battleship when people cant defend a single bomber

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>>151395407
WoWS has stabilized at around 12k players at prime time, and is now very slowly growing.

>Wargaming themselves don't know how they should balance this clusterfuck.
True. But they're trying to do it anyway, every single patch. Which is more than what gaijin does. The soviet ships are strong, but not outright, blantantly biased as WT.
>also Wargaming doesnt plan to combine tanks, planes and ships into a single match.
And? There are carriers in WoWS, which is all it's needs for an arcade naval game. Tanks are irrelevant.
>player controlled battleships and cruiser would have no enemies on the battlefield besides subs which dont exist.
How about, you know, planes?

>>151396043
>The soviet ships are strong, but not outright, blantantly biased as WT.
the fact that WG added the slavs who had a completely irrelevant navy during WWII before the Brits still blows my fucking mind.

>>151396043
So what you're saying is wows is an okay arcade naval game but will never have a semblance of realism.

>>151393249
>>151393283
>>151393503
>>151393563
>>151393609
>>151393697
>>151394021
>>151394469
>>151394515
>the shitposter keeps spamming his forced, cancerous meme
>shills are actively shitting up the thread alongside him and the ksp autist
Where the fuck are the mods?

>>151396043
>WoWS has stabilized at around 12k players at prime time

At this very moment there are 20k players in EU and 20k players in RU. +5k in USA and another 5k in Asia.

How the shit is that 12k?

>>151396236
mind you, I'm just as upset that Gaijin is doing the same shit.

Oh boy, I can't wait to play tanks in the water with a bunch of papershit that they had to think up because the Slavs didn't have a relevant navy.

They're fucked and they know it. The only real chance they had for success was American tanks and they fucked that up real good. None of their players spend any fucking money and none of them play for a particularly long time either. The rest of this game's sad life is gonna be nonstop cash grabs until it finally flounders and passes into the history books.

Maybe when the game is struggling to break 1k concurrent users they'll finally consider unfucking it.

>>151396043
>12k players
I played with around 17k during prime time. the game has been losing players since Open Beta with no end in sight.

>planes
>a single good german AA can keep the sky clear
>battleships hiding behind over 150 AAA guns with player controlled gunner seats while the enemy needs to torpedo your shitty ass below 500m and slower than 300 km/h

>tanks are irrelevant
they arent in war thunder. who doesnt want to see 4+ players sitting in their yamato lugging 18 inch shells all game long on helpless tanks while any plane thinking about going for their asses gets obliterated?

Hey, apparently Aces High 3 is in production.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6KNtHrAshc

Some shill will complain the graphics aren't going to make your eyes have orgasms, but frankly I think it's not worth the time to put so much care into something like the graphics because people just turn them to minimum anyway.

>>151396236

Russia has the largest server right after EU. USA is behind.

It's not that strange. At least they were not in game since the start while in WT they will be.

>>151396713
Coming to gas you.
>>>/gaschamber/
Fuck off, Teebshit shill.

>>151396782

Tanks and planes are not balanced. At all. And never will be.

Why are you expecting ships to be balanced?

And AR is by far the most popular game mode. Planes in AR are literally killstreak rewards.

I don't think I've ever felt this level of disappointment from a video game before. Like I'm almost nauseous.

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>Russian Navy

>>151397037
I fail to see your argument how Battleships would ever be balanced in War Thunder.
People cried about the TU-4.
Battleships would be TU-4 firing heat guided Air to Air missles.

>>151396757
Because it's not prime time in NA yet, dumbass.
And yet, 5k players is enough to fill in decently-balanced games in less than 30 seconds.

>>151396795
this just looks like it'll be even more niche than WT. Even IF it was free to play it probably wouldn't break 5k concurrent players.

>>151397180
Then why are bombers ingame? They are big and boring after all ))

>>151397272
WT is trying to be as mass market as possible right now, I have not clue what you're talking about. Everyone just sick of the blatant lies, p2w, and grind extensions they keep shoving down everyone's mouths.

This will probably use the same (far better in every way) vehicle access system that keeps rare ship on a points basis (you earn them by using regular shit to kill things) and the better it is, the more points it will cost.

It's also open map, which is basically what people wanted from world war mode, but Gaijin will fuck that up for profits, like always.

>>151397608
I'm saying nobody will play it because it looks like a game for autists.

>>151396782
That why I said STABILIZED.
Yes, it began with 20k, it has now settled for 12k. 12k at prime time, 5k at any other time. It hasn't gone below that number for months, and this is at a time where no new content has been released. Everytime a new line comes out or an interesting event is up, the numbers shot up to 20k.
>a single good german AA can keep the sky clear
>battleships hiding behind over 150 AAA guns with player controlled gunner seats while the enemy needs to torpedo your shitty ass below 500m and slower than 300 km/h
That worked out so well for the Bismarck, right? I mean, a fucking biplane crippled her LMAO. Or Yamato downing 10 whole planes. AYYYY

There's a reason why Carriers, not Battleships, dominate the seas.

>>151397086
GOY WE HAVE DESTROYERS

YOU CAN USE DESTROYERS GOY

>>151390490
while shima wasnt the fastest dd she was one of the fastest, dd mostly had 35-40kn speed, cruisers around 30-35, battleship around 25-30, with some exceptions

also that wasn't a normal shimakaze's speed, i believe it's her result from speed trials with a partial load etc

>>151397257

NA is the smallest server for WoWS.

>>151396338
>So what you're saying is wows is an okay arcade naval game but will never have a semblance of realism.
>Implying WT ships will be MUH REALISM

>>151397706
Ok teebshit. You're the most autistic thing on the entire internet, and yet people tolerate your existence for reasons I can't understand. I think AH3 will be just fine.

oh, and i forgot to mention, the speed feels only when the travel distance and obstacles allow you to feel it, close engagements of torpedo boats allow to feel the speed while long engagements of larger ships don't

>>151397719

Even if NA server dropped a bit EU didn't. It's common to see 25k people during primetime.

Game is gaining popularity. German and UK ships will only increase the numbers.

>>151398087
What did he even try to mean by this?

Link the forum post

>>151397719
>There's a reason why Carriers, not Battleships, dominate the seas.

you are like 50 years too late

nuclear submarines with anti-ship missiles dominate the seas

>>151396338
>but will never have a semblance of realism

Neither does WT.

>>151398229
>Send from my loud as fuck alpha

>>151398229

You mean carrier strike groups dominate the seas.

How do you turn on ultraslav mode?

>>151398219
when you fly a 600kmh plane you feel the speed less than when you drive a 40kmh tank in a city fight

>>151398345
subs dont need to even go especially close to launch missiles

carriers nowadays exist as the means of punishing rogue states

>>151398453
nope, they dont
not against an equal opponent

>>151397719

Bismarck is a meme.

Yamato lasted for hours under attacks from several super-carriers and about 400 planes.

>>151396919
Project harder shitposter. Why your cancerous thread derailing is allowed is beyond me.

>>151398554
>nope, they dont
>not against an equal opponent
You kinda proved his point right there

>>151398554

Not this shit again. You people fail to realize how effective modern CIWS are. Especially with railguns and laser CIWS in advanced testing stages. Sinking carrier groups won't be easy even with nukes.

Chinks are doing everything they can to get their own carrier groups. I guess because carriers are useless right?

>>151397719
>pulling the historical card when it fits me
the amount of ship to ship combat was tiny. most battleships and cruisers either shelled islands, escorted transports and carriers or simply denied enemy transports by shipping around important areas.

>>151398839
>Chinks are doing everything they can to get their own carrier groups.

sure, but not because carriers are the kings of the sea but because they are the best for a limited coastal offense

subs are long ago became the best ships to sink any other ships or ship groups

>>151398616
The Bismarck class was very well built. Bismarck itself sustained a shitload of damage before sinking, in fact when the Tirpitz managed to hide in a fjiord RAF bombed the shit out of it, but only a whole squadron of Lancasters dropping Tallboy until it sank.

>>151398685
Because you're a Teebshit shill that needs a good dose of Zyklon-B.

Breathe deep, cancer.
>>>/gaschamber/
Heh, got one.

>>151398839
>Nuke goes off hundreds of miles around carrier group
>Advanced prototype CIWS shooting in useless fury all over because they can't reach the target
>entire carrier group keels over from the explosive force
>eagles and babies begin crying in america
>armchair admirals clench their anuses
>I laugh

Did Gaijin not add big boats because they didnt know how to handle multiple big guns at once like youd find on a BB?

>>151399998
Because they don't want to bother programming water tight compartments for ships, also the slavs had no good surface fleet until the coldwar. This really rustles their ushankas.

>>151395987
this guy had a dd escort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdrISbwy_zI

>>151399998
I think it is because their favorite nation had a shit navy

>>151400154
HAHA LMAO

>>151389098
>>submarine chasers when we have no subs
ai subs))))

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>>151399685
>cancerous shitposter calling anyone else cancer

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Is this mod a woman btw?

>largest naval gun will basically be on the su100y
Ayy lmao

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>>151400171
Stop the bias

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>>151399964
What fantasy world do you live in you mong. That situation would only happen in the head of a complete retard who doest know shit about war or nuclear combat. please do us all a favor and kys

>>151401053
just some polák shitter

https://aww.moe/e1za9o.webm
sneks are evil

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This is perhaps the most disastrous news they could have dropped. The fuck is the point of playing World of Speedboats: Torpedo edition? Who the fuck imagines the smallest shits when talking about naval warfare. Who would want to play those tin cans when there is fucking Yamato firing overhead.

Gotta download World of warships I guess, it aint getting any better.

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>the playerbase isn't retarded

>>151399038
>pulling the historical card when it fits me
Well, you /wtg/'s like to point out the "muh realism" card everytime somebody brings an arcade game, when WT is already arcade as fuck. Fuck, WT is even worse, because Gaijin doesn't give a shit about balancing, unlike a proper arcade developer.
>the amount of ship to ship combat was tiny
Because they rarely encountered each other. Because the ocean is fuck huge. You're guaranteed to meet an enemy ship when playing a game, because it's a fucking game. So your argument is invalid.

>>151401712
>IL-28

Fuck off cancer

How does one turn on ultra low quality settings?

>>151401634
B-b-but anon these are unique speedboats no other game focuses on. Just think about how fun the 20 PT boat variants well get

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>someone tries to head-on my gunpodded F-82
>I simply draw line of fire, up and down, at 1km+, at rate of 280 rounds / second
>next thing, guy 2-3km behind previous one tries to head-on me as well, completely ignoring red lights show he just saw

>>151401634
>hurrdurr WT is going to be World of Torps!
>I'll go to WoWS which is totally not a torpedo soup at all

>>151401634
I'm very disappointed too.

But downloading WoWS isn't going to help anything. All the ships handle like remote control speed boats anyway, including BBs.

>>151402129
>HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRR

not my point at all retard

>>151401712
>718°C
W-what?

>>151401712
OKAY HELMET

>>151402260
new thermodynamics working as intended )))))))))))

>>151402146
I know, I already tried it out. I was just hoping WT would do it better.

Navyfield should come back. It could be awful but damn ... not really anything better around.

>navy is now dev focus
Looks like well never get the new SPAAG, or nazi Toptier tanks or any new Teeb tank at all.

>>151402471
Right. Just like they stopped adding planes when GF came out.

No spaghetti planes or tanks or navy coming soon :^)

>hear the news
>am ok with it

guess im the only person who doesn't see how giant battleships could be implemented realistically. you guys know wows exists, right? like you can literally go and play the game you want to exist RIGHT NOW. wows is also pretty fun, for comparison I don't like WoT at all but I would rate wows as a pretty cool game / 10.

>>151402557
They pretty much did

>>151402413
I don't blame them for having a PT and small gunship heavy game. I think that's something desperately lacking in other naval games. Nor do I blame them starting out with those boats first. I'd think any naval mode would have to rework the entire tiering structure with tiers based on class not era.

But no big ships at all? Not even destroyers? We're talking five inch guns. The tanks already have five inch guns.

I thought having no subs was a stupid idea. Total lack of any warships is just retarded.

>>151402735
You know WoWS is garbage, right?

>>151401568
i think we can equal polaks to women

>>151402735
Tell me whats unrealistic about BB?

They arent as slow as Gaijin claim they are
They have huge shelling range that is big enough to be able to attack right iff rhe bat with current maps

So tell me whats unrealistic for us? Sounds more like Gaijin being lazy and dont know how to implement them in a way that would make slavs pure shit. So instead we get ahitty pt boats and slavshits with missile launchers because reasons.

>>151402804
Except, you know, for the massively expanded trees in the last two years.

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>motherfucking patrol boats

>>151402706
Just like in Wargaming's games.

>>151403141
Is better comrade much more action then slow big ships )))))))))

>>151402735
who gives a damn if its realistic. What you need is reasonable ballistics, adjusted ranges for fun and reasonable damage model.

>>151402953
Well imagine ground forces with tankettes only .... its about comparable.

>>151403046
you sound mad.

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I bet they'll add Destroyers and Cruisers sometime during the closed beta. They can't ignore it when the whole playerbase starts complaining about their retarded decisions.

>>151403590
... you dont know Gaijin very well then.

>>151402953
idk, i like it. it could be better, sure. but i really don't think WT would have implemented battleships any better. small ships are cool, you can actually implement them realistically.

>>151403046
what's unrealistic about BB? nothing inherently, what I said was I don't see how they could be implemented realistically. that's not entirely true, I think if a big dev company dedicated themselves to JUST that they could do it. but the thing is the ships are fuckhuge big and have really complicated systems. damage modelling is actually, in my opinion, really good for WT tanks. even for a really good damage model, there are still so many annoying problems. and people complain all the time. how would you even begin to model a battleship's huge and multi-faceted complicated systems? it would probably suck. i mean look how much what they are showing us now sucks already. even the graphics suck, even the water graphics suck. there is no way they could even make the graphics for large ship damaging work.

>>151403383
>who gives a damn if its realistic
well, me. but if you don't, like i said, you know wows exists right?

>>151403590
>They can't ignore it when the whole playerbase starts complaining about their retarded decisions.
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>Project 1124 armored river boat
>river boat
>T34 turrets
>rocket rack

>PT torpedo boat
>no cannon
>mg and 4 torpedo

LOL "boats"

>>151403590
Fuck no let them keep it I want to see Gaijin fail

So, are there usually this many Gaijin shills around, or does it only happens during huge releases?

>>151403669
You know they already have battleships in the game right?

>>151402129

Another retard who either never played wows or is a complete shitter.

Torps are performing like crap right now.

>>151403669
There is a difference between realistic and retarded. Also there is a scale. You know games are about compromises when things from real world are involved, dont you?

>>151403686
They should have just made more water capable tanks because thats basically what were getting.

>>151403985
>You know games are about compromises when things from real world are involved, dont you?
You mean like the one Gaijin has already made for ships? Like it or not that's what they're doing - trying to make it fun instead of a perfect simulation.

Do you guys honestly and legitimately want to be plinking at one another for hours on end from 20 km away? That doesn't sound like my idea of fun.

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>>151403590
>They can't ignore it when the whole playerbase starts complaining about their retarded decisions

Anon...

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Schnellboot is the best.

>>151403985
i literally have no idea what you are trying to say. yes, games are about compromising between what you want to deliver and what you can deliver. if you had the reading comprehension of a 12 year old you would understand that what I am saying is is "wow, why is everyone complaining, i think gaijin made a good choice in compromising in what they are delivering because look how SHIT even just shitty little torpedo boats look. can you imagine how nonfunctional and unrealistic battleships would be if they tried to deliver that?"
like seriously, did you finish grade school?

>>151403890
??????????
are you guys all retarded?
what does the existence of a battleship model have to do with literally anything? you think that they've modelled in the rudder jamming if you hit its rudder with torpedos? you think it even has a rudder modelled at all, as a matter of fact? don't make me laugh

>>151403686
Just by the looks of it they will play like tanks assuming Gaijin gives us cover.

Im buying the project 1124 for this exact reason, sit back and just snipe pt losers. Hell i bet the 12 7 mgs can kill the PTs.

>>151403890
what did he mean by this?

>>151404315
Oh man gaijin would have such a hard time modeling a rudder for us and then modeling a red rudder that requires you to repair before moving again

Wew

>>151404413
Cancer or a shill

>>151404413
>giving gaijin money for this pile of shit
Kill Your Self

>>151404413
Im buying the PT. It goes twice as fast and they said big navel AI ships will exist so those torpedos = easy RP and SL off AI.

>>151404540
LOOOOOOOOOL
rudder isn't for moving, retard

>>151403046
to begin with, i already wrote you that being slow it's not the matter of their speed only, it's also the matter of the distance which they should travel and their maneuverability. if you played wows, it's much slower than the tank combat (despite ships move faster than tanks) and battleships feel especially slow indeed. they also feel slow because their main caliber has a pretty long cooldown. they are also hard to turn and have a meh acceleration

it's not the main problem with battleships though. the main problem it's how to make them balanced. you see, irl they cost a lot and while it's usually said they were rather useless, it's because they were relatively easy to destroy with aircraft, in a direct ship to ship surface combat they certainly were superior to the lesser ships and their numbers were limited only by their cost against their vulnerability to aircraft. if they cost as much as a destroyer (which is not only weaker in a surface engagement but also is more vulnerable to aircraft), certainly they could use them instead of cruisers and destroyers for most of the tasks. now, you can't release a ship class which is stronger than any other ship class in a pvp game, everybody will be frustrated about it, either it will be the world of battleships or if you limit their amount artificially everybody will be mad that they either wait for hours to play a battleship or are the cannon fodder for battleships. therefore battleships should be either excluded or artificially weakened in some way either directly or by buffing other ship classes, that's what wows did. but warthunder wants to be realistic, and realism means no battleships

>>151404198
I already said you need to adjust ranges for the game. It has been done before many times. A compromise.

>>151404315
Wow what an astute observation on your part. Games are about what you are able to make in the end. Call up the nobel people, I am sure they got an award stashed aside for you.

To reiterate in a simple way, so that YOU can understand it. You can never have 100% realism in a game. Doesnt mean you cant deliver a realistic experience which is also fun. There is no reason not to include bigger ships. Other games have proven that in the past. Playing speedboats is not what many people waiting for this want.

So, managed to get through it this time? Good.

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>inb4 torpedo boats on eastern europe

>>151404585
>being this mad over a video game
the one that should consider suicide is you

>>151404740
A rudder is needed to steer a boat, steering requires movement

You are retarded, do you also not know how repairing works? Youre not allowed to move retard.

>>151404850
>Wow what an astute observation on your part. Games are about what you are able to make in the end. Call up the nobel people, I am sure they got an award stashed aside for you.
buddy, you're the one who tried to pass off that retarded observation as insight, not me.

>You can never have 100% realism in a game.
no
>Doesnt mean you cant deliver a realistic experience which is also fun.
shit
>There is no reason not to include bigger ships.
you
>Other games have proven that in the past.
fucking
>Playing speedboats is not what many people waiting for this want.
ingrate

still waiting for you to type something relevant to what i said but i guess all you are capable of doing is stating random obvious facts that have absolutely no bearing on what i said
go back to grade school, retard

>>151404768
>speed and distance

Good thing we have tiny maps that would put you in combat range from the start

>you can't release a ship class which is stronger than any other ship class in a pvp game,

Didnt stop them in tanks nor planes

>river boat

Its confirmed, MOBA lane based maps

>>151405130
>Didnt stop them in tanks nor planes

neither tanks nor planes have anything like that... ship classes are vastly more different in power between each other too

>>151404972
>A rudder is needed to steer a boat
yes
>steering requires movement
yes

>this is relevant to me making fun of how retarded you are
nope. just a reminder, you typed:
>a red rudder requires you to repair before moving again
and i made fun of you for not knowing how a ship works. haha. retards.

>>151405335
Are you trying to claim that we dont have planes or tanks that are completely outclassed by other planes or tanks that are better in every way?

Do you even play this game?

>>151404768
Battleships aren't that slow. The tank game has far slower vehicles.

The problem with BBs is that they can take out ships over the horizon. They can take out ships far before they get into range. And it's an issue for game play.

But all those issues can be solved if they just set the battles at night, like all the great surface engagements of WWII. They already have the planes game 99% set during the day.

If they have night battles for the Naval game. Smaller ships can close the distance with BBs. Secondary armament becomes faster. Battle times are short, and as intense. The graphics can more than handle flares and spotlights. So visiblity becomes an important part of the game. So playing a BB becomes a matter of fire control and damage control. Maneuvering is important because you're in tight quarters with both friendlies and enemies and there are torpedos everywhere.

The idea that you can't have a fun, action-packed game with with large surface ships and keep it realistic is bullshit.

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W H E N
? ? ? ? ?

>>151405462
In the tank and planes modes, any tank or plane can take out any tank or plane it sees. Save a handful of exceptions like bombers without any defensive armament.

On the hand a destroyer has no hope against a BB. Furthermore, ships didn't go through the development cycles that planes and tanks went through. For example, a mid 40s fighter will probably completely outclass an early 40s fighter.

Whereas an early 30s battleship will still outclass a late 50s destroyer.

>>151401053
Nah, the only moderator or cm female I know of was some girl on reddit that rage quit the thing because both the game and the people on that subreddit are legit retarded

>>151405552
It's called FW-190 in the game

Plane RB matches last 30min to hour
Plane EC never ends
Tank RB are good 20-30 mins
Tank Sim almost always ends with camping and waiting it out till someone peeks and easiky lasts as long

Even plane and tank arcade can last 20mins due to respawn.

The idea that we need quick and fast naval combat is Complete bullshit and retarded. If tanks didnt have caps for ticket drain and timelimits they could easily go on for hours because people enjoy playing defensively like real tanks and not some CoD in vehicles.

Fuck this WG cancer that is turning iut game into tiny shit maps that last 10 mins long

>>151405818
t. shitter

>>151405818
>posted from my Ki-Spaceship

you guys ever have those really hype tank RB games that last really long and it's getting really exciting and then the game just ends because "lol 25 minutes"

>>151405886
>Plane RB matches last 30min to hour
no they dont

>>151406049
I love scamming wins by timer

>>151405783
Torpedos dont exist in your lala land i guess

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I want ships to fail and shipfags to cry.

Fuck ships.

>>151405462
we don't have plane or tank *classes* that are so much better than other plane or tank *classes* so those become useless

>>151405484
yet again

they *feel* slow

because they travel a lot more than tanks

have you played wows? it is slow meantime the speed of ships there is increased by 3 times, i mean if you divide the traveled distance by your play time. also the size of ships is increased by about 3 times there too with 100m ships looking as 300m... because the realistic accuracy of the shots was like 10 times worse than in wows and it would be unplayable otherwise

>The problem with BBs is that they can take out ships over the horizon.

gosh... do you know that a) horizon it's not a fixed distance and it depends on the height of the observation b) any ship can shoot at targets over the horizon

>>151406067
Yes they do unless your team is full retard and fly straight st then without climbing

>>151405886
>Plane RB matches last 30min to hour
More like 10-20 minutes

>>151406471
not anymore with game-ending trucks that spawn 10-20 minutes into the match

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HOW TO SHIPS IN WAR THUNDER:

INSTEAD OF A SINGLE SHIP, EACH PLAYER CONTROLS A CAPITAL SHIP AT THE CENTRE OF A GROUP OF LESSER SHIPS, WHOSE MOVEMENT IS AI CONTROLLED BUT WHO FIRE AT WHAT THE PLAYER TELLS THEM TO FIRE AT

CAPITAL SHIPS INCLUDE BATTLESHIPS, AIRCRAFT CARRIERS AND LARGE CRUISERS, WITH SPECIAL MEME SUBMARINE HUNTING GROUPS FOR ADDED FUN

PLAYERS UNLOCK BOTH CAPITAL SHIPS AND SUPPORT GROUP SHIPS IN THE SAME TREE, AND CAN CHOOSE WHICH SUPPORT SHIPS MAKE UP THEIR BATTLEGROUP, HAVING TO BALANCE OUT AIR DEFENCE, RAW FIREPOWER, FLANKING ABILITY, RADAR AND RADIO CAPABILITIES AND SONAR FOR MEMEMARINE REMOVAL

GAIJIN YOU OWE ME FOR THIS ONE

>>151406049
I rage when i loze to tickets and timer runs out in tanks when i still have a chance to turn it around or im on the comeback. Makes me so mad.

Gaijin didnt even give PT-109 the correct armarment. It just keeps getting better.

>>151406794
you should've done something about the tickets then

tickets and objectives exist for a reason

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After line of nothing but Corsairs, this ugly as sin thing is a nice suprise. I don't even remember last time I had something that agile in US tree, not to mention acceleration and climbing.
If it wasn't getting sluggish as hell at low speeds it would be perfect.

>>151406579
>implying Gaijin is competent enough to program this
>implying Gaijin cares enough to program this
lol

>>151406579
>capital ship

shit desu

I want my cruisers so I can screen battleships from SBDs

>PT-109, a torpedo boat on which the future US President John F. Kennedy commanded and performed acts of heroism.

acts of heroism!

>>151406579
so... turn it into MOBA?

>>151407175
Its nearly impossible to solo three cap battles when enemy has more tanks and is ahead and time is running out unless they are lemmings.

Ive also had games where i literally have lost by 100 tickets and its the most gay thing that could ever happen.

Once the enmy is up by tickets they can easily just camp back while you have to be aggressive on the attack or lose to time. Take away time and battle could be played out very differently than rushed.

moba it would be that your ship farms creep ships (river torpedo boats) sailing the river and becomes stronger and stronger. there is also a jungler ship which farms merchant ships in the jungles

>>151407690
The Teebshit gaishill does it once again. He will invent any reason, no matter how improbable, to defend his masters. Just do us all a favor and gas yourself. The mods are coming, it's time to switch to a differnet proxy again.
>>>/gaschamber/

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>they promised us warships
>we get boats instead

>>151407045
No you dont understand, it will be in the tree as a variant!

>>151403890
Yeah, I know, tried shooting at the current Tirpitz model with a tank, you can only hit the turret which gives you a critical hit, but that's it. Tirpitz is also currently the most finished model (graphically), so if that's that, it's nothing special really.

I dont understand how Gaijin is going to give every nation boats to tier 5. We need atleast 6 boats a tier. Are they just going to fill it with variants?

Are we going to get attack rafts? Navy seal rubber rafts?

Like what the fuck could they add when they restrict themselves to nothing bigger than a patrol boat.

>>151407940
>>151408219
good

mass weeb suicide when

>>151408219
>>151407940
INVENTED PICTURES WARGAMING SHILL SHILL
OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING WHITE MALE

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GF were a disaster and Gaijin refused to fix all the issues people were complaining about. In fact it got worse.

If you think ships will get better after people complain enough you are delusional.

It's over. Game is shit. It's not going to recover.

graphics is much worse than in wows...

>>151408080
You used to be able to kill ships off the coast of the island beach map when GF first came out. I think now those ships are gone.

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Look how sad this cruiser is over your fuckup Gaijin

>>151408442
yeah because people were getting RP from it so ofc they had to stomp that out ASAP (((((((((:

>>151408451
This looks like a mobile game.

>Somehow make the ships look worse than wows

lmaooo gajoob....

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>>151408319
>mass weeb suicide when

pretty much the moment navy goes CBT
lmao

>>151408451
>that smoke
Holy shit

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>>151408319
>teeb jealous because his shitty nation can't even make aircraft carriers anymore

Teeb extinction soon.

>inb4 HURR DURR IT CARRIERS HELICOPTERS
Only officially, Gaijin.

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All of my planes look like this, even with custom camoflages disabled
wat do?

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>>151408407
why are you mad ?
if you want ships you could always play world of battleshits
it's good that gaijin is offering variety and not a clone

>large ships may be added later
Its never happening, you cant fill 5 tiers of attack boats with no armor that can be killed by fiddies and then introduce destroyers, cruisers, BB, etc.

WT navy is going to be a joke and just a fishing pond for planes

>>151406265
In my lalaland, BBs can survive multiple torpedo strikes.

HOLY FUCK

BOAT CT ALREADY OUT. DOWNLOAD:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/10250/

>>151409209
lawsuit when?
>The company gained notoriety for pursuing legal action against the owner of gaijin.com, an unaffiliated website that predates the company by 7 years.[17] The lawsuit was settled in November 2013.[18]

>>151409209
they stole the name from an older game lmao, good job Gaijin..

>>151409165
>implying a long lance torp wouldn't rape any BB
Those things would seriously fuck the shit up of an Iowa class.

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AHAHHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>151409691
russians get a main gun, cannons and rockets, americans get torps and MG's, how is that balanced at fucking all?

>>151409691
>you thought you are free from T-34?
>too bad!

>>151409691
>Goyim will buy this

>>151409691
>t34 with flak and rocket attachment tank

>>151409691
>people bought this

>>151409691

This would be great April Fools.

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>>151410068
Why wouldn't you?

Ships will play just like tanks with less friction on the movement. Given rock cover it'll be peek a boo all over again

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>>151409691

>introduce boats
>it will still be dominated by t34s

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Reminder:

>>151410634
HOW DID YOU GET A HOLD OF OUR SECRET MAP DEVELOPMENT METHODOLOGY

OY VEY

A THIRD HOLOCAUST

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>>151410778
please don't put plutonium in my tea (((

Lets see what will be in the soviet tree.

Project 1124 is premium confirmed.

In the tree:
Boats line:
Project 1124
- This will be the T-28 turret variant
Project 1125
- There will be two variants of this, one with T-28 turrets one with t-34
S-40
D type armored boat

Sea Hunters:
MO-1
MO-2
MO-3
MO-4
MO-D3
OD-200
BMO

Torpedo boats:
Sh-4
G-5
D-3 seria 1
D-3 seria 2
Komsomolets


and um...... Yeah that's about it since anything bigger is too unrealistic and hard to model for Gaijin.

>>151410281

They still didn't fix gokart tanks.

Just imagine how boats will handle.

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On break from game and Internet in general , came back just to tell you niggers you are still worse than /b/

>tfw we assblasted the teebs so hard they have begun the ultimate false flagging in history

We did it, lads.

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Ships will SAVE WAR THUNDER

>>151412318
>>151412239
>>>/gaschamber/
Fuck off, Teeb.

>GAijin refuses to do warships
>we get no armor meme boats
>just so happens Slavshist get the PT-76 that can double as a bote with HEAT-FS
>Gaijin did this so slavs could club other nations in PT-76s

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>see the news
>watch the trailer
>battleships, destroyers, cruiser fleet
>suddenly torpedo boats come out of no where and rape a battleship
>read below
>lol just kidding only attack boats 4 u

WTF

http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/326775-large-ship-naval-battles-some-clarification/

>with our “craving” for realism
>Gaijin
>realism

>Do we speed up ship travel?
There are BB, destroyers that are as fast as the shitty russian river boat that you are releasing


>maps could be made bigger but that would involve hours and hours of traveling only to get taken out in the first few minutes of contact

This pretty much confirms we'll keep small as fuck maps which means a BB would be in range anyway and traveling would be a non-issue

>Economy
>lol it takes too long to kill a battleship

fucking shit excuse, this isn't real life where we're sitting 15-20km away from each other. The maps will be 5km long probably at best with Gaijin's current goals and logic.


>battles lasted for hours and even days and often ended with an enemy retreat or not being destroyed
Once again our maps are tiny, you can't just outrun a BB shell range

>dozen of battleships in one battle without a supporting fleet will be a clumsy and easy target for aircraft.

It's almost like SPAAG in GF that do nothing and leave Heavy/Med tanks unprotected and vulnerable to dive bombers, yet Gaijin does absolutely NOTHING about it.

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>they make official thread explaining this disaster
>posts disappearing every minute

Ebin. Simply ebin.

I winder how many people got banned.

>>151413919
>read post about negative ones being deleted
>refresh page
>it's gone

epic

>>151413303
>i-it's okay that's what I want anyway

t. BenchBro

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L
O
L

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These people are so delusional

HEY, GUESS WHAT?

SHIP FUCKING SUCK IN COMPARISON TO TANKS AND PLANES!

>people thought shits would be cool
lol

>>151414000
So apparently their """research""" indicated it wouldn't be fun. I wonder if it included how fun it would be trying to stop people inciting riots on the forums for the next three days.

I can guarantee this is going to have the opposite effect they intended in playerbase retention.

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>wake up
>botes are confirmed
>but only PT botes and destroyers
I fucking knew something was up
at least I wasn't hyped for it

I didn't think Gaijin could stoop lower than GF, but this 'naval' branch is just really topping the charts.

Did they make a deal with Wargaming to not be good at warships to not kill WoWS?

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>>151414536

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>NOT EVEN DESTROYERS ARE GOING TO BE ADDED

>>151414606
>So apparently their """research""" indicated it wouldn't be fun

But climb to win and bomber gameplay is super fun.

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>devs make Q&A thread to ask them questions
>they delete posts that speak negative of them
>they don't even answer the ones with questions in it.
>mods are calling people entitled spoiled brats

damage control, It's good to know WT will die before WoT, WoWS and WoWP

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>>151414739

>all I've been doing lately is fly around in user missions
Don't even feel like playing this shit anymore, but I like the planes too much to uninstall.

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>>151414739
that is amazing

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>The development time and investment to produce a single capitol ship would be incredibly large, to what end? Nobody plays them?

This is glorious. They probably already lost hundreds of players and it's soon going to be thousands.

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And here we have the real reason we won't get big ships: "We're too lazy"

>>151403867
It's only gotten worse recently with the mods actively shielding and protecting them along with shitposters and the ts pedophiles.

>>151405818
posed from my MiG balsa wood UFO armed with twin repeating phase polaron cannons

>>151407929
>>151412608
t. triggered shitposter dragging down the thread with it's forced cancer

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>>151414739
savage

>>151415168
that's one THICC-ass finger

https://youtu.be/FGZv3VDOnDA?t=91

>Stona (Posted just now)
>And it's still to fast to stand near anything that is trying to be realistic (I played both of the Battlestations, great games btw).

They still are using the "muh speed" argument when their fucking slavshit PT boat is about as fast as some BBs were

>>151415168
Quality homer simpson hand there, weeb.

>>151415181
Well Scarper knows shit-all about Gaijins development tbf

I ALMOST feel sorry for him having to try and work overtime defending Gaijins retardation on the forums right now.

wait so, why aren't we getting battleships?

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>>151414739
Greatest of OC

>>151415574

Ruskies had shit for a navy so nobody gets real ships.

I hope you like floating T-34.

>There is quite a significant gameplay difference, between a Maus for example than a 70,000 odd ton Yamato class fleet flag battleship.


He's right, the Yamato goes twice as fast as the shitstain that's the MAus

>>151415574
Because ))))))) is all the explanation we've gotten from gaijin

Literally "our research indicated it wouldn't be fun"

Gaijin could fix all of these problems with the slightest bit of creativity. It's baffling that we're regressing in game design as time goes on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-uuEaEWa_A

Even this fucking kid's game handles Gaijin's simple to solve problem better. It's fucking jaw dropping stupid of them to not figure out a creative way to handle transport time.

>>151415704
why would anyone give a shit about sailing dinky little patrol boats around? literally what is the point?
the entire point of ships was to have ships, not boats

>>151415727
>someone replied with "Yeah the Yamato saw more combat"
>minute later deleted

LOL

>>151415704
>Ruskies had shit for a navy
Nope, but that's not the reason

>>151415783
but why would floating t34s be any fun at all ever?