/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

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Year four is a tad late to finish the offices for the mayor and guard captain, but at least they look good.

This happened a couple times so far: one dwarf loses an argument and is angry about it, then he gets enraged, and starts fighting. Last couple times it was just three or four dwarves fighting, but now half my fortress is running around and punching people. Why does this happen and what should I do?

>>151369765
jail them

>>151370291
That's not possible.

Anyone know if there's an alternative to bodyswap for dfhack? Or a mod that does something like it?

>>151370729
put them in a squad and turn them into wrestlers

Why is it almost constantly raining, no matter which biome I settle in?

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>fucking around in one of my weird caverncanoglacier sites
>cutting trees for more lumber
>notice water draining in the cavern lake which wasn't linked to my mist-supply
>trees I cut down were linked to an air pocket?
>water falls down onto a magma flow instead of casting obsidian immediately
>cut down the rest of the trees above the air pocket and just watch to see what happens

>>151369365
The set has come along really nice comfyanon the engravings look better than I expected.

>>151371648
I think it's the biggest hole in the dfusion changeover, I'm still not sure what the replacement is, worst comes to worst I'll end up fiddling around to write a script for it, I think I have the general idea of what I'll need to do.

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>>151372226
Here's the airpocket and the frames I set up so I can plug the drains easier if necessary.

>>151369006
Why aren't DFVIDTUTS recommended in the OP pasta?

Why do my dwarves just start fighting for no reason? It's like some seasonal event were one gets enraged and attacks another and it just spirals out of control.

>>151376290
Arguments, are they brawling or fighting to kill? Brawls happen and are fine, one will stop when the other backs down or passes out.

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>>151376290
>>151376627
I've never had a brawling caused by an argument in my fortress, yet when I decided to venture In the real world with an adventurer, pic related happens
Geez, those city people are really on their feet about everything, amirite?

>>151377135
>picture = feminists

>>151376627
Yes arguments, they get angry or annoyed after having an argument, and then they fight. I think they are brawling, because if a dwarf is unconscious they don't attack him, but the problem is that they attack everyone they see, or everyone they see attacks them, I'm not sure. So far I've lost nine dwarves in two of these events.

>>151377135
I once had a human maceman visit my fort. He was in a constant state of rage because of arguing. I had a dwarf who was moping around for years. And then finally the one who threw a punch was a lasher who wasn't even flashing red before that moment. There might be a lot to the personality of a creature which makes it brawl more often.

>>151374410
You mean captn duck? I have no idea, they used to be.

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For building a magma forge can I just get to the top of a magma pool, channel out a hole in the "roof" of the magma pool, and then place the impassable tile of a magma forge over the gap?

Is that all there is to it?

Will my dorfs fall into the hole before the workshop is built?

>>151379357
They shouldn't fall inside even when it's open. They do that only if they try to dodge something.

>>151379515
But otherwise that process should work?

Its my first time with magma so I don't wanna have too much fun.

>>151379571
Yeah, they gotta dodge an attack to end up swimming in magma generally.

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>mandrills triggering all cage traps

god fucking damn I fucking hate monkeys

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When will the elves start selling booze again?

>>151381223
Around elves, watch yourselves!

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post forts?

I will encase the existing wall with stone blocks, for aesthetics. Then I'll build some smaller houses outside. Then I will assign the useless bums to those houses. Let's see how this works out.

Huh, I can make adventurer camps in the underground dwarven highways, even though there are dorfs and buildings there already. I wonder if they can be embarked upon.

>>151380203
back2/pol/

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>>151381661
this isn't on a dwarven site like you're suggesting, but I made my current fort around a worldgen tunnel and I have to say it's a little disappointing. nobody enters through the tunnel, not even if you block off your surface connection
living by the cavern is kind of cool though
also relevant to >>151381569

Does this give full coverage to a soldier:
Helm, breastplate, gauntlets, greaves, high boots, or should I switch high boots for low ones, since it looks like greaves can sometimes cover lower legs?

>>151381223
I wouldn't expect it until the economy goes back in. It's (probably) close enough that any work in caravans today would be wasted effort.
That said, Toady didn't remove alcohol from elven caravans on purpose, and there's always the possibility that he'll accidentally add it back.

>>151382282
Tunnels strike me as unbelievably cozy.

>temperature is cool year round
>almost no enemies, though I ran into some reptile men off the beaten path
>plenty of water to drink
>extremely roomy, not at all claustrophobic
>vast helm plum fields

>>151382464
Add a mail shirt and a cloak and you've got full coverage.

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>equating monkeys with negroes

um racist much

>>151382464
High boots are universally superior to low boots, there is no reason to use low boots except in 1 in a million corner cases.

I would give them cloaks and hoods as they become available. Very minor protection tho

>>151382464
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Armor
Don't forget a shield.

>>151382704
Ah yes, forgot mail shirts, which are da bomb. They protect the neck, legs, and arms, at least sometimes.

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>>151382641
>plenty of water to drink

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>tfw memes are becoming real
At least he isn't the general any longer. The current one is a dorf.

>>151382724
Keas can fly so the analogy doesn't work as well.

>>151382641
I agree, and I hope that when start scenarios/hill dwarves/deep dwarves and all that shit eventually gets put in, there's some sort of option to play as deep dwarves. the stuff you describe would be even better if travellers, invaders, etc. actually moved along the tunnel

I would be ok with an embark scenario like that where you had no access to the surface and had to rely on rumors from visitors to find out what was happening up there

>>151384492
NPC dorf settlements seem to get fucked up fast just in the default types of settings, so I could imagine its up to a player fort on tunnel watch duty to keep invading goblins from getting all the way through to the Dwarven Halls. Additionally, it may be up to the player to watch for forgotten beasts, subterranean animal tribes, and night creature migrants passing through.

I've only now noticed that when I use the workshop profile to order, let's say, 20 barrels and 20 buckets, that it will alternate between those two instead of making 20 barrels and only then 20 buckets.

Is there a way to make the works stop the alternating tasks, or should I just be content that there even exists a way to order stuff in bulk?

>>151379571
The advantage of putting the impassable tile over the channel is that you stop magma dwelling beasts from giving you a visit

>>151385521

Order it to a specific workshop.

Y-you do have 2 carpenters right?

>>151385521
You can suspend one at the workshop out have multiple workshops and set your orders to a single workshop each

Right, here is the scenario. When you are embarking, you can bring 3 items (excluding the caravan), and 1 of each of these items. You can have skills as default.

Which ones do you bring?

>>151385764

2 picks and an axe

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After four years, those vile forces of darkness finally decided to make a move. Can't wait until they start sending real armies, though.

>>151385314
would be pretty cool.
>extremely limited population because you're just an outpost, but about half of the migrants that do arrive are competent warriors
>listen in on tavern conversations to catch rumors of relic-hunters that might try to sneak past you to the mountainhome in an attempt to steal shit
>regularly have to fight off invasion forces larger than your entire population
>provide escorts for dwarven pilgrims travelling to some distant temple

>>151386131
Why people with such tile/graphic sets is allowed to post?
Really, it's too goofy to be taken seriously

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>>151386370
Anons be hatin' on my comfyset.

>>151385610
>>151385661
Nah, 60 pop cap and I didn't cross train enough. And a bunch of them died so I'm missing some legendaries to keep the sailing smooth, and I'm on a 2x1 embark so there isn't much stuff except rock, so there is not much rough material.

The question is actually concerning armor pieces. To make it concurrent I'd have to have 6 armor smiths and that's a no go in most cases. I want best of the best armor pieces.

>>151385764
anvil, axe, pick

>>151387407

I'd just do it manually, for something like armor it isn't that important to automate.

>>151385764
3 copies of "The Dwarf: My Only Mistake"

>>151385764
1 lignite block
1 magnetite block
1 wooden block
all skill points into consoler and pacifier

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>>151386683
>using a custom tileset that is non-square

>>151385764
Three books:
>The World Without the Dwarf, by Båx Berngerxung
>The Dwarf: My Only Mistake, by Inire Cacameamala
>Against the Dwarf, by Urist Tholtigcog

I just embarked and I found out there is a good population of giant brown recluse spiders and alligators.

Should I be too concerned?

>>151388895

depends how close to the water you are, sometimes you embark right on the river and as soon as you unpause they swarm out and rip your shit up

>>151388969
I am right next to a stream. It has been about 20 minutes and nothing has happened.

>>151388895
Depends, are you an ecologist?

>>151388075
Authored by Tarn Adams.

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>>151388542
Square sets are for square people, fampai.

>>151386370
Rude. Comfyanon is family, even if he hasn't learned to use square tilesets.

I noticed that my human solders are practically armor less and started doing armors designed to people larger than dorfs.

>>151390163
be warned that they're often very weak and have low armour user skill, so they sometimes end up moving unbelievably slowly when fully dressed up

>>151388895
Not really. GBRSs don't have the webbing ability that GCSs do, but they do leave webs behind in the environment that can be gathered for silk without having to open the caverns. You might lose a dwarf every now and then to them but overall they're a net benefit to your fort.

And if you can catch some alligators you can tame them up, set up some nest boxes and breed them as a source of meat and eggs and guard animals. You might lose a dwarf every now and then to the wild ones but overall they're also a net benefit to your fort.

>>151390659
>You might lose a dwarf every now and then to the wild ones
Dwarf Fortress goes didney worl.

>>151390614
Even in leather or bone armor?

>>151390980
oh, that should be fine
doesn't protect them much, mind

>>151390659
What if those spiders are captured and trained? I know GCS are trainable.

>>151391270
You can't make them shoot web(since tame animals will just panic when they see enemies) and they'll die after like two years. It's not worth it.

>>151391119
Not him. True, but the absolute first thing you want is just stuff that will keep your guys from being scratched up by every wandering creature, plus a helmet isn't too big of a problem.

Does silk, pig tail, (rope reed?), and jute cloth offer any noticeable distinction in terms of protection?

>>151390004
That's like saying he hasn't learned to be an elf.

Are you an elfaboo, anon?

When did this:
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Become hotter than this:
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>>151393227
Elfabooism was completely pointless back in .34.11, but nowadays elves are flat out amazing with the tavern and wood updates; great stats for being bards (musicality +, linguistics +++, intuition +), rare and valuable recuperation + and disease resistance +++ (which means elves, like Legolas, can drink dwarves under the table), and the universally useful agility + and kinesthetic ++. They're also fast as fuck.

Now, elves as a CIVILIZATION are basically always going to be relegated to just the sidekicks of the dorphs of course.

>>151394401

You've convinced me to make a gay ass elf adventurer next.

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>>151394821
their plan is working

How do I efficiently clear up remains? Do I use a stockpile for refuse or use a zone?

>>151395439
Around elves, watch yourself.

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Alright so I'm trying to dig down to a magma pool I found the side of in a cavern.

I start my dwarves digging above where I'm pretty sure it is, and eventually they stop.

I hit the magma tube, but the top 25% of it is hollow.

So my question is:
>Can I get dwarves to drop water down this hole until there is a layer of obsidian over the magma, and then go down there and build magma forges on the obisidian floor?

Or,

>What is the optimal way to build forges on a magma lake?

>>151396738

buckets and an empty pit

>>151396969
Fill a pit in my fort with magma?
Can I make a magma well?

Do I just make 1x1 channels and fill them with magma under my magma forges?

>>151395578
Neither is more efficient than the other (or very efficient at all). A stockpile requires less micromanagement than dumping, but takes up more space.

>>151397363
You can fill a pit with magma, but not using buckets.

>>151395578
just dump them into magma

>>151398014
Then what was >>151396969 talking about?

>>151397363
>>151398205

water buckets into the magma pit with an empty pit area..

>>151398014
>>151396969
>>151398306
OR I could create a waterfall from a nearby cavern layer to turn it all into obsidian at once.

Would that be any faster than buckets?

>>151398587

depends how good a plumber you are

>>151398696
Alright I'm gonna do it.
I feel like an underground waterfall into a lava pool to make a floor is the Dwarven Way.

This has to be the most overrated game of all time? Has anyone ever bought this game? Or even played it? I get that some games don't really need amazing graphics to be great but seriously......this looks atrociously bad.....and yes I did try this game once but quickly thought.......no way.... Just not fun.

>>151399413
0/10

>>151399413
Anon... ironic shitposting is still ironic.

>>151399413
Like Skyrim with Guns

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>>151399413
wtf ur right - Toady I want a refund

>>151399413
It's """fun""" if you don't use any of the features.

Otherwise it's paint drying simulator.

enjoy that sub 10 FPS.

>>151399413
>overrated game
It probably is. It's pretty shallow once you learn the game mechanics.

However, every time I try to go back to other games I find out that they're so much worse, so I'm basically stuck playing DF.

Games in the genre which can compete are Daggerfall, Morrowind, Unreal World, Elona, Gearhead and Mount & Blade.

Is there any advantage to gelding?

>>151401358
prevent catsplosions.

>>151401358
Keeping personal pets with bad genes from contaminating your livestock.

Having two cats to keep the vermin at bay, without risking having a catsplosion.

>>151401582
There are genes now?

>>151401801
They've been in for years. Basically, attributes, size and appearance are inherited from parents. This means that you might want to cull the smallest individuals from a livestock population.

What's a fun animal man to play?

Thinking of something that can fly.

>>151401985
Oh shit wasn't aware of that.

>>151401582
>>151401985
If only you could cull dumb thoughts from the populace.

>in a time before time somebody attacked somebody

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>Download a mod that adds a bunch of adventure mode crafting options
>build a home in the woods, live off the land and hunt deer
>Make bone and wood crafts in my spare time, stockpiling them and honing my skill until I have enough to make a trip to a city to buy some metal equipment

This is as cozy as Dwarf Fortress has ever been. Except for when that Olm woman burst into my house and tried to stab me with a spear. Threw her out the club tho.

>>151401358
When the romance and law update collides, You'll be glad to know that no woman will sue you for childcare
That's a good enough reason to me, do you really wanna suffer the complete weight of the law in a game like DF? come on, don't risk it and get your balls AXED™

How long until a scholar writes something? They are going mad from boredom complaining about the lack of this ant that while being couped up in that tower library I made them.

>>151403621
Your wife actually can leave you for the goblins as is, even though its stupendously rare.

>>151404258
About once every 5 years or so. I'd just personally make an ass load of paperworks for an adventurer or two to write on.

>>151404662
Do you know if they have to be a scholar during all that time, or can they take breaks? for example I've just now decommissioned one of my scholars back into the general populace because he was getting stressed about not producing anything in a long time. The thing is that he's not the only woodcrafter around. the free one(s) would take any crafting jobs while he was busy pondering about the lever.

>>151402842
Ain't it though?

can u get a wife in adventurer mode?

>>151405467
no, but you can crash the game near dark fortresses.

>>151404964
The 5 years thing isn't a hard and fast rule, its meant to convey that once in a blue moon, once in a VERY long time, they will decide to make something. There's a forum thread on the topic.

iirc, they will VERY SLOWLY decide to do non scholar jobs if no one else does them.

>>151405467
>can u get a wife in adventurer mode?

This needs to happen. You should be able to capture a harem and use the genetics system to produce a host of offspring to enact your will, be your slaves, or whatever you want.

REMINDER THAT TNC IS MORE NADOTA THAN DC BECAUSE OF JIMMY

>>151405467
Yes, not conveniently.

You need to find someone within 10 years of age. The game of course will not actually tell you this.

You will need to get a high friendship level with her. The game of course will not actually tell you this.

You and her both need to be straight or bi. If you or she is a gay or asexual, the game of course will not tell you this.

During downtime the game will gradually have a very very small chance of getting you hitched with her, about the same chance as anyone else in the world getting married.

I would bring the two of you to a player fortress and isolate the two of them for a few years and it will probably happen.

>>151405525
maybe you should go at night

I went at night to a dark fort with over 3000 goblins, stole the demon lord and left, easy peazy

>>151406637
Yes, I do too enjoy not playing the game the way it was intended.

So much fun one shoting sleeping goblins.

Can't wait to siege the next one!!

>>151404346
bullshit, dwarves are monogamous
>>151405567
I mean, I think it highly depends on the scholar
In on of my experiments with adventurers, I designed one adventurer precisely meant for that job (had sharp inteligence, a way with words, etc. and his personality was very research-oriented)
And retired him at an old fortress of mine
After a couple of seasons, I asigned him to a scholar, as I couldn't toggle jobs on him because he was a human and had not yet asked for citizenship
In the time it takes to say 'elves are fags' three times, he had written a racist book against mi civ

I truly want to think that his celerity at writing that book was because he was a naturally born scientist, and not because he needed to stomp on corpses of dwarves to go from his room to the tavern

>>151406485
>>151405467

You also may find it easiest to use Legends Viewer to check age and relationship level and give them both compatible personalities.

Once the potential for a romantic relationship pops up you will see Relationship: Friendly (300 or whatever), UNKNOWN (0) pop up, that's the time to bring them to a fort for their love shack.

>>151406406
Ironically while there's a way to have a harem (using the animal breeding system) I don't think they inherit the father's genes

>have large wood stockpile right near tavern full of Elves

>>151406993
Are you a r-retard, senpai? There will be enough awake goblins and trolls, and way more than enough beak dogs, to satisfy your fighting urge.

>>151407328
Yeah, I took control of a dorf from my fort to adventure at one point, later on I found out they had gotten married while retired back at the fort, used dfhack to pop out a kidventurer and had to go in and reconnect all the linkages so her mom and dad were actually her mom and dad, since it listed some random histfig as the dad for some reason.

>>151407517
I've been playing the game a long time.

It's a broken piece of shit.

enjoy not being able to use every new feature, wouldn't want to tax your machine.

Keep making excuses though.

>>151407068
>bullshit, dwarves are monogamous

No, she can still run away, join the goblins, and call one of them "Master," leaving her children behind.

>>151407703
>waaa, fighting 200 monsters in one sitting isn't enough
>I want to fight 2000

I'll be honest, even going at night there will probably be too many enemies for you to stand fighting.

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Giant pushed one of my dorfs down from the bridge connecting the plateu on which I built my fort to the rest of the mountain. The drop is at least 20 z-levels.

Can some artfag please draw this?

>>151406406
I mean, it's gonna happen eventually, and when the whole psychology/romance thing gets polished, I can't wait for anons to post their waifus, and the stories they have together
Truly, it will be the new combat log posting

>>151407871
Not at all, just stand in the hallway, hold down the arrow key towards the enemies.

You'll massacre all of them if you trained properly.

Who am I really kidding though.

>Dwarf fortress is not responding, would you like to send an error report?

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>>151407935
Now he attacked one of my farmers. Seems like she's not about to go down without a fight, though.

>>151401985
Size and appearance yes, but attribute heritability has never been demonstrated. And people have tried. Many times.

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>>151407935
>>151408415
One who got pushed down landed right on her head. RIP in pieces.

>>151407971
I'm not gonna lie, I fear this thing righ there too much
I usually get too atached to my dwarves, so if in the future, communication and romance are well done, I fear that I won't be able to play the game for fear of my wife dying

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>>151408723
At least my militia managed to save the other dorf before she took any damage.

>>151406485
Adventurers are all asexual by default. You'll need dfhack to fix it before that could work.

>>151409232
Do you offhand know what the command to check an adventurer's orientation is?

>>151409558
gaydar works for all units, but it's pointless to even try with adventurers, since they are asexual by default

So I learned last thread that the Nemesis error that kept crashing my fort meant that the fort was fucked.

Can I retire and unretire it and fix it that way or is the whole area in general just fucked? I haven't set up very much so it wouldn't be too great a hassle to unretire.

>>151409558
No, sorry. It's probably some gui/gmeditor hoodoo. I've never messed with it.
But if you just want to hack the gay away, fixster (or fix-ster) is the command you want. I don't know if it works in adv mode or not, but it probably does.

>>151409898
I've heard of people dodging the nemesis crash by retiring/unretiring to time skip past when the problem unit would appear. It's not reliable, and may not be a permanent solution, but it's worth a shot.

I'm thinking of making a program where you can before hand draw out a designation and then have it converted to a macro. Does something like that already exist, I don't wanna waste my time. Maybe I'd do it as a programming challenge.

>>151409931
>I don't know if it works in adv mode or not, but it probably does.

It does, thanks.

Guess I fucked up.

So... looks like I need to gen worlds and adventurers in .03, and then export them to a later version. I can't immediately think of any features that'd be loss in so doing.

I wonder how easy getting couples together actually is with fix-ster in use.

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Built a comfy palace for my qt 13yo baroness. Baronesses love comfy palaces.

>>151411519
Wow it really IS just like one of my animes

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Dumb ass miner ate all the ground

this nigga gone die

begone page 10

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Am I the only one who always only uses two guards, the captain and the hammerer? I imagine them as a buddy cop duo.

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My first Forgotten Beast in this Fort.

Nothing to be exited. It killed one of unlucky civilian but it was later killed by one dwarf who went ahead of rest of military and cut beat in half in one swing.

>>151418842
I never appoint justice workers. I don't want random civs getting their shit kicked in because I have douche mayors and barons. Maybe I'd consider that if the punished dwarf don't get a bad thought after getting punished.

>>151419757
Dude, just make sure to have enough prison cells and use adamantine hammers for justice. Also make the prisons luxurious by engraving them and giving each prisoner their personal booze stockpile.

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>>151418887
>first forgotten beast appears on 3rd cavern
>eyeless cuckoo with deadly dust
>proceed on opening the drawbridges to throw dwarves at it
>they'll probably get fucked but I enjoy testing my militia
>forgotten beast won't come
>battle reports says it's fighting a cave dragon
>dragon doesn't stand a chance
>nor does the voracious crawler, ogres and crap on its way
>pussy out and call dwarves back
>cuckoo's been there for a while
>killed about 200 crundles, rutherers, floating crap and whatever
>gigantic page describing all his scars

I'll let the goblins kill it. Turns out I'm the cuck.

Do children count towards idle dwarves?

>>151421172
Now I'm a #CuckoldForCocoPuffs

fuck digging pits

>>151421172
It killed all those animals because animals are shit.

There is no reason to be afraid of any beast, except for those that use webs, dust and vapors.

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Tell me /dfg/, what do you see?

>>151421951
Did you miss the deadly dust part?

>>151421968
the female reproductive anatomy with a dick entering it

>>151422192
Sorry, only skimmed the story. The dust changes everything. Just throw some marksdwarves at it, I guess?

>>151421951
it's a dust cuck, I only got crap forgotten beasts

>cuckoo

>fire blob that caused a cave in trying to kill a rat
>said rat escaped and got killed by cuckoo

>a retarded slug trapped on a pit on the fucking end of the map

I'll throw makrsdwarves at the slug and trap the cuckoo

>>151421968
3x3 memecases

>>151422348
Just make sure your dorfs can't actually charge it to melee

>>151422704
What's the problem with 3x3 stairs?

>>151423249
Kobold shitposters don't like them

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>>151423249
They're just bad, okay?

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>>151421968

>>151420152
How about training hammers? I never appointed a justice official before, How do I tell him which hammer to use?

Newbie here, I have an injured dwarf but I have no water source since the nearby river just turned into ice, and so did the murky pools.
Is there any hope for the dorf?

>>151424587
You don't. When it's time to dole out a hammering he'll pick a hammer from among those available in your fort. If he's in a military squad and assigned a hammer he WON'T use the one he's assigned. He'll drop it and find one that isn't assigned to any soldiers. To make sure he doesn't use a good one, only make as many as you need for your military, or forbid all excess hammers except the one you want to be used for hammerings.

>>151424806
Caverns.
Or tap an aquifer from below. Carefully.

>>151421968
Two bears high-fiving

>>151425214
there's no way I'll manage to do either of those on time, I guess didn't have much use for a bookbinder anyway
isn't there some way to make water out of snow or ice?

>>151424806
>>151425774
HOLD IT

PAUSE THE GAME

What's wrong with him? like exactly what's wrong with him? don't let him dehydrate in a hospital, free him so at least he has a chance unless he's completely fucked

>>151425774
Piercing an aquifer isn't as hard as you think. if you do it from above, then it's a piece of cake. If you need to do that from below then check out how pressure works, it doesn't spread diagonally.

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>>151411519
I had a 12 year old baroness who didn't have any item preferences, so she never made any mandates.
She's a 17 year old duchess now.

She's kawaii as fuck nigga

>>151426251
just a fractured leg, I even have a decent doctor who could help him, too bad he'll just die of thirst...
>>151426308
I'm pretty sure there isn't even an aquifer on my embark. I thought the river would be enough but I stupidly forgot about it freezing in the winter.

so what exactly does assigning more spears in on an upright spike trap tile do? Is it like a greater chance of impalement or something?

>>151426815
Okay. instead of killing your dwarf via dehydration, maybe you should just let him put up with the broken leg and delete the hospital zone for now and deconstruct the bed if it doesn't work?

he will probably be able to survive crawling around until you get water

>>151427134
done, but it looks like he won't make it. I'll take a break for today, I'll try to do something about it tommorow

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You know your adventurer is badass when he kills a roc with a wooden sword.

>>151429203
In the current version, it's pretty impressive. Not so much back when a broken nail was enough to render any creature unconscious.

>>151426929
Additional spear attacks when it pops up/something falls on it.

>fort filled with masterwork roasts
>dwarfs still complain about the lack of decent meals

What the hell man. How do I make them eat the good stuff only? By burrowing them to a certain stockpile?

>>151431567
I believe "decent meals" is defined by item preference not item quality.

>>151431567
You have to find roast yeti or whatever they crave.

>and they said we were autists for making our own adventurers for use as fort denizens

>>151432134
So he's supposed to mope because I don't have sunberries and camel tripe in my fort?

>>151432960
Yes.

>>151421172
I wish I had so much fun in caverns. Maybe later something FUN will spawn. Or I will try to reach third level.

I remember in previous fort, FB with dust were so much trouble to deal.

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And what do you see now?

>>151434289
Not as bad as webbers, dust spitters kill themselves a lot, webbers just kill everyone else.

>>151435458
Can't unsee the mutantgina after other anon annotated it for us.

>>151435542
I know. Web beast have chance to beat untire military if everyone is webbed. Every time I was dealing with them I had massive lossed.

First time:
>Magma
>Magma sea
>Obsidian making
>Forgotten Beast
>Siege (a few casualties, my fault entirely)
>Adamantine veins
>Caged Gobbo
>Cavern collapse
All in one day.
It's been a pretty intense few hours.

>>151435458
It's meant to be a demon head, so maybe the mutantgina works in an H. R. Giger sort of way.

Also:
>How many dwarves should be in my military if I have a population of 130?

>>151432960
Yep, you can't make 100% of your dwarfs 100% happy 100% of the time.

>>151436182
if you can mass marksdwarves and get them all to fire on it at once (ideally when it rounds a corner and enters their LOS), you can mitigate casualties. even if they don't kill it outright they'll usually fuck its shit up enough that melee dwarves can kill it with only minimal casualties (but don't let the webber get at your marksdwarves)

I assumed or correctly remembered that cave in can plug tunnel with water and separate it from water source so i could deal water inside.
Intended cave in did it's job it seems. However I accidentally when digging for it caused another cave inn where my poor cheesmaker on mining duty fell into water, sand and dust were everywhere and he was unconscious for while. I tried to help him out but in end this dorf managed to find way out water.
That's makes me happy when dwarves survive consequences of my mistakes.

>>151425774
Digging to the caverns takes seconds. Literally just dig a staircase down.

>>151436361
>>How many dwarves should be in my military if I have a population of 130?

all of them? military makes everything better, help prevents tragic accidents, boosts stats for crafting, etc.

for plebs a copper pick, a silver hammer, etc., leather armor, a leather or wooden shield, a metal cap, and the rest with bone armor will suffice, set training to be infrequent and/or low priority and occasionally they will boost a little

that way they can defend themselves a little bit if attacked

>>151437694
I have 30 dedicated troops on a two-month-on-one-month-off training schedule.

I'll go ahead and make two months of training a year mandatory for the rest of my population.

Thanks for the advice!

>>151438119
You should exempt miners, woodcutters and hunters.
http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=1451

>>151438119
>troops on a two-month-on-one-month-off training schedule
I actually trained them all time with some occasional breaks from time to time without changing schedule. Didn't even notice military being unhappy.

>>151437694
Hmm interesting idea to just train rest of guys too. Usually when some civilian put fight it was miner or wood cutter (usually dying anyway).

>>151438119
You're welcome.

Another reason is just because many dorfs have the 'martial training' need

Anyone tried switching game modes in adventure mode with dfhack?

Since bodyswap no longer exists could you switch to arena mode, take control of someone, then switch back to adventure mode?

Or would that fuck things up?

>>151438557
Its not necessary to exempt them, just be aware of who has what.

>>151438637
I think people underestimate how much irrelevant scratches can hurt, how much protection even against blunt trauma accidents a few pieces of armor like a metal helmet can provide and what large protection even a random ass wooden shield provides.

Couldn't you make every dorf a part of the military just to make them wear a uniform?

That way everyone will be in armor at all times, so they'll be much safer if something goes wrong?

>>151438781

That sounds VERY interesting. Though yes it could fuck stuff up

>>151438781
It's possible but glitchy. Once dfhack catches up I'll spend some time and get a bodyswap script set up if it isn't already.

local trg=dfhack.gui.getselectedunit
trg.hist_id=ftrg
df.find(figures).hist_id[ftrg].flags[0]=true
df.global.world.units.active[0].id=trg.id

That isn't a working script, just an outline of what I think will be needed generally, there will be a couple other fields I'll have to change too I think to handle the transition fully.

>>151439604
Yes. Of course normies get sluggish in normal armor, hence endorsement of leather+bone+metal cap

>>151439807
>>151439687
Why can't toady just make it easier to equip companions or use them as pack mules

>>151435458
Still two bears high fiving.

>>151440347
Just trade their gear for what you want them to wear? Though I haven't tried to get one to wear a backpack, not sure how that would go actually.

>>151442924
You don't want to. Once you give them a backpack they go full retard.

>give them shit
>they equip it

>give them backpack
>give them shit
>they put it in their backpack and ignore it
>die naked unarmed and with an inventory full of gear
AHHHH

>>151439604
Read the bug report in
>>151439604

Anyone doing civilian military service to any degree needs to be aware of it.

>>151443210
What's more is you can't take the stuffs back without trading for it so it's kinda pointless to give them a backpack to begin with.

>>151444596
Shit, bug report in >>151438557

>>151444659
The trick is to give them items they can't use and won't keep as a weapon (NO JEWELRY, GODDAMMIT STOP HITTING PEOPLE WITH THAT FUCKING CROWN YOU ASSHOLE, YOU'RE HOLDING A GIGANTIC MASTERWORK BETTER-THAN-STEEL BATTLE AXE FUCK!) like gear in the wrong size or whatnot so they just drop it right away.

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>>151423249
>>151423498
>>151423536
large sets of vertical staircases murder framerate due to pathing and are horribly boring/tedious to look at.

>>151449913
>murder framerate
They're not especially efficient, but that's a gross exaggeration.

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About tired of werechameleons.

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>>151452117
First responder is a dual shield wielder who's never seen combat. Should be interesting at least.

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>>151452420

>>151429502
I'm in masterwork I wouldn't be surprised if the diffuculty is cranked up a little to compensate for new stuff like mithril and gunpowder.

/dfg/ please

Why am I no longer getting necro/goblin sieges, dwarf caravans/liasons, kobold thieves or anything other than elves? I need more dorfs but I can't get any to show up since the game hasn't recognized I have produced a ton of wealth since there's no caravan to do so.

>>151452819
...and Doctor Zuglar Tradedrunken ran up and stole Asen's first kill with bronze pick-axe to the head. Poor show, Asen. Dick move, Zuglar.

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>>151453307
Problem with your world brah.

>>151452819
Shields are brutal when wielded by a strong enough user.

>>151447876
I suppose but it's still a pain... guess I could spawn in items with createitem.

Can you create items of various sizes? What's something they won't keep that's not different sized gear?

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>>151402842
here, I finally got around to getting better tiles.

I built up my trade goods and headed to the city. I had to dodge a bunch of bandits on the way, and at one point won a fist fight with three hooligans. I stripped their weapons and armor while they lay beaten on the ground.

When I got to the city, it turned out my lovely crafts weren't worth shit. Didn't realize how worthless they are. Thankfully, I had the hooligans' stuff to sell. Long story short I bought an iron weapon but some armed thugs were in the city chasing after me, and at some point it turned into a massive bloodbath. I think I stumbled into some kind of warzone. Going to pick the bodies clean and get the fuck out.

>>151453153
Rocs are probably not changed.

>>151455658
The enitre game was rebalanced. I wouldn't be surprised if they changed something. Could be they just added new stuff though.

>>151455658
New stuff like frog demons when you start a big camp. The amount of right feet that when missing was strange and terrifying. Pretty much every warrior in my home village is missing a right foot.

>>151456760
They really don't change much at all in the new one, except that which lies within the premise of one of the mods.

>>151456984
That's a side effect of the succubus mod, not intentional.

Ya, I looked it up, rocs are same as ever. The Wanderers Friend mod bundled with it optionally does increase it.

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>>151454506
Yeah, I always mix a few into my squads. They're less efficient at killing than just about any weapon user, but they're hard to kill and make for fun combat reports.
I'm trying out a squad composed of 3 speardwarves, 3 steel buckler/bronze shield users, and 4 marksdwarves. I wish there was a mechanic to order dwarves to move in formation, so I could make them act according to my mental image of how a squad like that would function. They're likely to all be legendary before they get a chance to fight, so they'll be fine anyway, but it would still be cool to see spears and bolts flying from behind a tight shield wall, barreling into a goblin horde.

Pic isn't really related, but it's as close as I could find. So I'm posting it.

>>151457850
>buckler/shield
>not shield/shield

Is there a practical reason?

>>151454538
Well, they drop mugs, but they drinnk anything inside, so if it's not something you mind destroying you can put it in a mug (put it in a bag first if it's too big to fit in the mug) and use the value to get stuff back from them.

>>151459573
Not at all. It's just because I like the idea of a dwarf with body length shield for defense and a smaller slab of steel strapped to the opposite arm for bludgeoning enemies with. Practically, two shields would give a marginally higher block rate, and probably slightly increased damage from the extra weight of a shield vs a buckler. I don't really care about the practicality of it, though. I got bored with high-efficiency set ups years ago (else I wouldn't be using dual-shielders at all).

It doesn't make much of a difference, anyway. Legendary+ combat skills make a dwarf damn near deathproof. My beards are in more danger of dodging off the cliffs and falling 80+z to their death than from an enemy's blade or bolt. Military training needs a nerf, and combat skills need a cap.

>>151460860
So even though adventurers can't see their legendary++++++++++ values they're still there?

>>151461109
Yes.

>>151461385
Badass.

>>151461109
Yeah, I liked when you could see the exp to next level, the bars are fine and all but once you hit legendary they don't serve the same purpose.

>>151464983
There's something like 100 levels of legendary for combat skills now I hear. That's insane. My adventurer killed a roc with a wooden sword. That shouldn't even be possible.

>>151465296
They're technically not capped but I think the game doesn't register over something like legendary +80 last time I checked?

If I link my upright spike trap to a lever and a creature falls into it, can I just spam the lever like a motherfucker for repeated impalement?

>>151466859
Yes. That's their primary function.

>>151467019
oh baby

>>151466859
yes, as long as it doesn't leave the tile, obviously

that mechanic is the basis of many cheesy strategies

>>151466118
Oh I assumed that was the case because of the way the wiki put it. It doesn't say it's capped at all. Though it does mention +100 legendray warriors.

I can't know for sure but I killed a roc with a wooden with a +20 legendary fighter and talented swordsman.

>>151467630
Rocs aren't exactly great fighters, they have a few combat skills at a meager natural 6. And they're just meat. Big as they are, they're not very difficult to kill. Also, since you're playing masterwork, not all woods are created equal. It adds some metal-like woods to make the elves a little less wimpy (or at least it used to), so that could've been a factor as well.

>>151468680
Actually it standardizes all wood. I realize it wasn't a big accomplishment but it is pretty unlikely if you look at the raws for wooden swords. They have 10 impact strength by default which is basically fucking nothing.

I embarked with a wooden training axe, but my dwarves won't cut trees down. I have 2 of them with the skill, and a bunch of trees designated. They're on embark, so none of the dorfs are doing much of anything. Why won't they cut? They can access the trees, as I'm on a shore and the land is fairly flat.

>>151469206
training axes can't cut trees anymore

>>151467630
Yeah, there's a point with dfhack where it rolls over from higher levels and doesn't work right as I recall.

What's the most "visitors" you've ever had in you're "tavern"?

>>151469082
It doesn't have any of the special woods anymore? It used to have ironwood, steelwood, and the good/evil/underground woods, with all the rest standardized.

>>151469284

Fuck. Well now what do I do?

>>151469537
Make your own, or wait for the caravan. Your dwarves will be sleeping on the ground for a while.

>>151469437
Well I haven't been playing masterwork for long. So I thought it standardized all woods.I don't know for sure in any case. Though I think I got the wood for the sword from a palm tree.

>>151469636
The worst part is I have a ton of coke available to make a copper axe, but I can't get the initial smelt off without wood.

The circle of liiiiiiife

>>151421968

Icon of Sin

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>>151469827
>embark into a site with no wood

>run any migrant without useful skills through the pump chamber until they're legendary operators
>then put them into militia

Is this worth the months of "training" to raise attributes? Seems like all my pump operators are incredibly strong, but I didn't check their stats beforehand.

>>151469827
Nevermind I read the previous posts. lol you're fucked for a while. Why woulkd you bring training axes instead of real ones? On the plus side you can now start training your militia.

>>151470778
>Why woulkd you bring training axes instead of real ones?
up until 42.x (I think?), you could cut trees down with wooden axes no problem, and people would do that so save embark points (take copper ore and make your own later instead)

>>151471208
>you could cut trees down with wooden axes no problem

Oh I never actually thought that would work in the first place.

>>151469827
break down the wagon

>>151469284
>Wood axes can't fell real trees.

I'm playing Masterwork as a Beak Wolf adventurer, what is the best build for them? Should I get a weapon or do they not have hands?

>>151474541
>Masterwork

>>151474803
yes

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>>151475019

>>151475149
I like the more varied races ok. I dont play fort mode all the bloatware doesn't affect me.

I can't wait until the new noob pack comes out
should I even bother playing 0.43.03?

Is there a way to disable the inability to fast travel near water? I'm on a glacier and it won't let me fast travel because I'm walking on frozen water.

>>151476980
There's an estimated month or two wait until they figure out the memory mapping, so yes.

>smash wrist
>can't play df because it requires two hands

Ableist scum

Is there a way to filter/search for armor materials in the military screen so I don't get about five hundred different results for leather?
On a related note, why am I not seeing bone in any of the materials? You can make armor and shields out of bone, right?

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Magic is HUGE but I can't stop myself from thinking of the utility/possibilities opened by boats/moving fortress parts.

Do you think toady will use that functionality to make carts and wagons actual carts and wagons? Will we see gobbo chariots?

Anyone using the historical armory pack? How good is gambeson+copper chain mail? Are brigandines worthwhile?

>>151470047
Only Correct Answer Here.

Playing adventure mode and noticed that if I spill someones cuts I can target them with wrestling
is there a way to rip out the guts afterwards?

Anyone have the image with the dwarf throwing a lion into another one.

>>151480215
Bite and shake > walk around with guts in your teeth.

>>151479201
I hope we get siege towers and rams. Chariots would be even nicer.

Also, just imagine having a massive armoured cart pulled by jabberers, with dozens of gobbos ready to deploy inside, some of which shoot arrows through the cart's fortifications.

>>151480416
Yeah!

And judging by some of Toady's plans/stuff in the stories, does anyone have a guess to how mechanical limbs and other innovations. will work? A secret that gets generated and spread? A potential artifact type for mechanics?

I want to have more knowledge-spreading stuff. If your fort dedicates a decade to making cave croc training guides and sending them to the mountain homes, that civ should be able to domesticate them.

So how long until we at least see this artifact stuff in the game?

>>151480898
Six or seven years, give or take a decade or two.

>>151480898
The toad's been working fast but now he's doing site map stuff which he even says will take a while. Magical effects and stuff after that? Who knows.

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>>151402115
I went with brown recluse spider man.

The venom is underwhelming but the arms are cool.

>>151480898
According to the dev page, he's finished about a fourth of the intended features. We can probably expect a late 2017 or early 2018 release. After that, he'll focus on the myth stuff(worm people, living deities, RNG'd ancient races, spirits, giant flying eggshell continents, et cetera).

>>151481106
You WILL kill after a couple bites, but it takes a long time. It's good for hit and run.

The arms are rad.

>>151481515
>late 2017 or early 2018 release
Fuck, I actually meant late 2016 or early 2017, although what I wrote instead probably applies to the myths.

>>151477164
Senpais please help

>>151481687
No, you can't. Have fun being encased in ice.

>>151481640

I just want the necrosis to kick in, so far I haven't seen any of the supposed effects kick in (nausea, pain, fever, necrosis) with multiple bites.

>>151481870
fug

huh just had bogeyman attack but they're peaceful towards me for whatever reason, and there's a bunch of "madman" and "madwomen" here attacking eachother too

>>151482907
Are you the anon who played as a brown recluse spider man?

If so, the bogeys won't attack you because you can't feel fear. The nofear token makes creatures friendly towards bogeys.

They'll still pester you and stop you from sleeping or travelling, though.

>>151482998
Yeah I am, good thing I don't need to sleep to

also I guess these guys are from a mod

>Download the basic game here. Current version is Dwarf Fortress 0.43.06
Is this a meme now? There is no fucking .06

>>151402115
I had mighty fun with insect and snake people with particularly strong venom.

Also big size means you can punch things into gore and bite heads off so I recommend Hippo/saltwater croc/alligator man.

Hyena or Leopard man if you wanna wear armor.

>>151484331

I'm using a mod to craft armor so it's not a big problem.

Anything within 5000 size of humans/dwarfs can get armor in adventure mode though.

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:List_of_creatures_by_adult_size

I was just attacked by boogeymen but I'm a vampire. What gives?

>>151484495
They aren't [NOFEAR].

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>http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=159915.0
Nice game discussion, gay12.

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>>151485138
>FREE
>but not really

I was just attacked by boogeymen, they had me on the ground and I was for sure a goner.
I try to dodge then I end up teleported a few tiles away from them, with my injuries no longer bleeding. I check my status and I'm enraged, the boogeymen spawn around me again but they aren't fighting
"Really start a conflict with the bogeyman?"

What the heck?

>>151485506
Maybe being enraged temporarily makes you fearless?

>>151485594
I'm still pretty new, what does me being fearless have to do with them not attacking?

>>151485651
>>151482998

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>http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=156726.0
Seriously, what a fag. I bet that guy is also the one who shitposts about "ded fps ded game" in the general.

>>151460291
Wait seriously? They drink literally anything?

>>151486140
Yup. If you put a cage with someone inside in a bag, and then put the bag in a mug, you can have anyone drink the cage, killing and destroying the creature inside.

>>151486223
What the fuck... That's such a weird very specific bug.

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>>151486223
Including if you use dfhack like I did and put someone in a cage, but don't clear their position so they're also standing there, and then put the cage in a mug and hand it to them.

>>151486620
Fair warning: don't try to get something to drink you, it is possible, but the game just crashes to desktop.

>>151486620
By the way, tilesetanon, exactly how DO you use dfhack to put someone in a cage?

With the recent updates, wouldn't it be time to redo the gem cutting/gem setting labors? Who the fuck cares what kind gems it is? Move that into "details" and streamline the basic labors.

Also, why can't we designate cleaning labors?

>>151487063
I agree. Also, the kilns seem to have been left behind in development. You can't choose which kind of clay to use without messing with stockpiles, and there's still no way to make mugs out of clay.

Why even have porcelain in the game if you can't drink from porcelain cups?

Do I really need to worry about Slight needs?

>>151487063
Don't tell us, make a thread in the suggestion forum.

>>151487356
Just slightly.

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>>151487356
slightly

>>151487467
>>151487483
oh

How do I fill a bag in my inventory with water from a bucket?

>>151481640
>>151481928

Sorry lads but necrosis don't do anything. Only if the brain gets necrosis does a creature die, or necrosis in the eyes causes blindness. Other than that, it doesn't even slow creatures down.

I once tested this on a Giant Wolf, first I poked its eyes out so it poses no threat and startid injecting venom in every bodypart, and in the end every one of its bodyparts was red, had necrosis or started swelling and it still walked around.

Black Mambas and bushmasters have great and effective poisons, they even work with ambush techniques like quick bite and run away, come back to find your prey bleeding and vomiting uncontrollably.

>>151488269

It makes them look like a ghoul which is cool.

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I wonder if using divine_1 as a creature name will let me assign graphic tiles to angels.

>>151488841
I wonder if the HFx part is needed. That would ruin it, since the deities have different IDs in every world. In any case, I'll give DIVINE_1 a try.

>>151488841
>>151489084
has anyone checked how "accessible" the world raws are through the ordinary raws, anyway? If I use GEN_DIVINE as an entity's language, will they actually get angel names?

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>>151489345
>If I use GEN_DIVINE as an entity's language, will they actually get angel names?
It seems like they actually do! Fuck, this should be on the wiki.

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>>151489936
Holy kek, it really works.

Putting "GEN_DIVINE" as the language of an entity really gives them generated angel names.

>>151487997
You press shift + I and select the bag.

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>>151486751
gui/gm-editor > check the unit, find their unit id, open the cage, hit i to insert an entry, add the necessary contains_unitst and contained_in_itemst references, point them at the right item/unit and they're listed as being in the cage, until you flip the caged flag though they're still running around so you can then put that cage in a mug and hand it to them.

>>151490082
Wait, has it always worked like that?

>>151490568
No idea, but it does now, so I'm adding it to the wiki. That is, to the entity token page as well as the language page.

is there a mod to remove handedness from gauntlets?

How do i turn on the life vision as a vampire, it just seems to randomly happen/?

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My fellow human and mecenary succubus in masterwork have the worst names...

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>>151491841

>mangy carnal sack

>>151491498
It should always work but sometimes I've noticed it doesn't always pick up life forms properly

From the Dwarf language page on the wiki:
>The coincidence of Å being a separate letter in the Nordic alphabets and the ring diacritic only being used on A in Dwarven is probably just that, a coincidence. If Å is distinguished from A in Dwarven, then it is quite strange that no other accents are ever applied to it.
Who the fuck wrote this? 'Å' being a letter in the Nordic languages isn't a "coincidence": it originated there. Toady wouldn't even have added Å to the dwarven language if it wasn't already a real letter.

Why are we allowing Americans to edit the wiki?

>>151492981
>Why are we allowing Americans

Ftfy

>>151492981
If it's wrong information then go fox it.