/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

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>>151121078
Lazy immigrants AND nobles!

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kobolds aren't cute when they're dead sub-edition

>>151119310
they often freak out when they see corpses. a few severed goblin ears stuck in a tree is enough to do the trick sometimes.

>have to leave to do real-life things
>save and exit
>come back
>wait the two in-game update weeks as usual
>the dwarves have fucked everything up
Apparently they decided dumping all of my food stockpiles onto the floor so they could move the barrels that it was stored in to the furniture stock pile was a good idea

my party was interrupted by a page ten. no, that's not annoying

>>151121525
And why the FUCK did they move the cabinets onto their fucking beds
what the fuck

>>151121525
>>151121880
By the way, are these things common occurrences? Like, should I expect shit like this to happen every time I save and exit? Because now I'm going to have to redo all of my food stockpiles and all of my living quarters too.

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>>151122209
Wait, did you save, or retire?

>>151122209
this is the weirdest bait I've ever tasted. I need to bite down on it to figure out what it is

you're talking about retiring/reclaiming, that shit happens during the 2 week sim. saving and exiting doesn't involve retiring the fort

How do you specify specific images again? I go into details but all I can specify is the stone type.

>>151122387
FUCK
I retired
this is my first time playing Fortress mode and I've played adventure mode so long that I didn't even think to look for a real save option
Fuck me

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>>151121525
>>151121880
>>151122209
>He thinks retiring is necessary every time you save

>>151122521
what type of job are you talking about? some things don't have an image associated with them, eg. doors and cabinets (if you want an image on them, it has to be done via decoration, which can then have its image specified)

>>151121880
They tried to put them atop the ends of their beds for "efficiency" and it all went terribly, terribly wrong.

>>151122652
Rock crafts.

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>>151122569
>>151122469
At least it wasn't too much of a set back
My food stockpile is already ready to go again and I designated an emergency furniture stockpile while I redo all of my bedrooms
I have been playing this game for three years and I didn't even know you could save
you learn something new everyday I guess

>>151123305
>playing for three years
>didn't know you could save
mein sides, anon, haf ju zeen zem?

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>>151122536
You don't have to retire an adventurer to save and exit either. Are you fucking serious?

Some migrants have arrived.

>>151123119
The only rock craft that have an image specified for it is figurines. You have to choose those specifically (not the general rock crafts job) to be able to specify an image for it.

>>151124000
yes

>>151123119
Oh duh, rock crafts don't necessarily have an image, I have to specify figurines for that.

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>>151124268
I don't have an appropriate reaction image for the strange combination of mirth and consternation you've caused me so I'm posting Gamera.
Pic unrelated. It's Gamera. And telephone poles or something.

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>>151120921
How the FUCK are the beastmen in adventure mode? I've never controlled any before, but they seem pretty useful.

>>151125414
Birds fly, bugs have extra arms, big things are big. About what you would expect. Good luck finding armor.

Can I make a custom 32x32 tileset or is the game 16x16 exclusive

>>151125746
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/Tileset_repository
They can go to at least 64x64.

>>151125728
How are alligator men?

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>Dig into cavern
>fps drops from 100 to 40
>"Well its still relatively fi-"
>Siege
>3fps

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>>151125746
>>151125884
They can go quite a bit bigger than 64x64 but you really need a screen that is like 5120x2880?

>>151126218
Annoying to gear, probably fun to chomp the shit out of people.

>>151126218
Big, bitey, amphibious.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Alligator_man

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>>151128506
The nonsquare version also.

ADVENTURE MODE CARAVANS WHEN

>>151132076
Probably after boats, or bundled with boats given their economic implications.

So this is weird. Dorf veteran here with some weird shit going on.

Playing through a new fort on 43.05 (By the way is there an update for dfhack and dwarftherapist this version yet?)

Embarked in a pretty normal area. Kobold, Goblin, human, and dwarf civs within range at start. Plenty of caravans still going on. Got a couple of thieves and finally I get invaded by a force of darkness.

I'm eager to get the action ball rolling and stay out of the caverns as much as possible for this fort. I check the siege and its about 6 goblins. I find this pretty weird, shouldn't that be classified as an ambush? I wait for more to spawn but thats the whole force. I kill them all and the [siege] mark goes away.

Shortly thereafter, some kind of giant or titan megabeast spawns and immediately I get a migrant wave very close to it. This is unfortunate and it kills every migrant before my military reaches it.

But my military reaches him on the bridge and he ends up getting tossed in the water and drowning along with a couple o dorfs.

Their sacrifices are memorialized of course but then something curious happens. Years pass. its been at least 2 maybe 3 years. In this time I've gotten plenty of caravans, but only two waves of migrants. Each wave only had one single migrant!!. And there hasn't been a single goblin or kobold at all, not even a thief nor snatcher.

The fuck is going on bros.

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>>151132370
Dying civ?

No dfhack yet, no clue on rapist.

>>151132861

Nope theres been really no other deaths, and my fortress wealth is growing, especially since I just got a bit of adamantium

>>151132861

also all the other civs are still listed on the 'c' screen for civs

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>five years
>60k exported wealth
>still no gobbos

>>151134251
Were they listed as neighbors when you embarked? Did you embark far, far away from any actual goblin settlements?

>>151134502
No. I know that goblins should be sieging, they're just not.

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>Today is the 10th anniversary of the first release of Dwarf Fortress! Apparently it was time for us to get a taste of what we've been dishing out, as we've been showered with crayon drawings through the mail. Thanks to everybody that has played the game, enjoyed the stories and supported Bay 12 through the years. On to the next decade!

Does anyone else add hooves and antlers to elves? I feel like it fits them.

>>151136708
I make them turn into logs when killed. Not only does it fit them, it also turns them into a precious natural resource, crucial to my industries.

>>151136853
I'd change it to be a wooden statue of an elf but I can see how your method would be more efficient.

>>151134251
gee I wonder how Gozru got the name Banditthief

>>151136708
why, because they're bosmer shits, cannibalism and all?

>>151138118
Pretty much yeah.

Any advice on making a fortress by digging straight into the ground instead of a hill or cliff?I'm a total newbie and all my forts have been hill forts, but my new embark has no hills

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>tfw carving out your new homes from virgin rock
The elves wish they could be this intimate with mother earth.

what's the deal with cave dragons? haven't seen any in a few versions

>>151140750
There's no advice to give. So long as you secure the basic needs (food and alchohol + a defensible position) you can do whatever you want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C6oaUFeYJQ

Best theme for Dwarf Fortress y/n? Pay attention to the lyrics. I feel it fits almost disturbingly well. It makes me feel things.

>>151142181
The best theme for DF is the theme it already has. It's too impersonal for vocals.

>>151141272
I haven't seen any either, but I thought they were supposed to be fairly rare?

>>151142668
I'll have to kill off all these damn troglodytes and bugbats to keep the spawns coming I guess

>>151143352
I like to cage everything then drop them all in a pit for archery practice.

Has anyone ever built a fort entirely out of stairs? Just one big cube with no structure. I wonder how insanely deadly combat would be.

>>151143639
I can't decide would that be good or bad for the fps.

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>Rimworld getting more attention and news than dwarf fort on DFs tenth fucking bday

>>151144652
plebs gonna pleb

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>>151144652
I don't give a fuck rimshit. Is it even in development anymore?

As long as DF and Toady gets the donations they need, I'm happy.

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If a tree falls in the forest and nobody's around to blame, do the elves declare war on nature?

>>151134251

I really really wish these descriptions explained the reasons, the races of whos attacking/being attacked, where and WHY these attacks happen. Otherwise it all just seems so meaningless no different than "THINGS ARE HAPPENING, BYE".

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Guys

I'm getting into DF, embarked nicely near a little delta and the area north seems perfect to dig into if I can find a cliff face there

Question is how to I even move the view north of where I marked on the screenshot?

It seems retarded to dig into the cliffsides on either side of the river delta here, I gotta go north

what do

>>151145289
abandon fortress

embark north

>>151140750
Ramps can be used in combination with 3 width tunnels to create a path to an indoor trading depot. Tie up a dog or some other animal near your entrance as a lookout. Use a bridge to seal your fortress so that no one can get in or out. If you settle near a stream try digging out an aqueduct very carefully so that you can have a well indoors. Have your farms somewhere where there is dirt and you won't have to irrigate them. You know, the general stuff.

>One of the adventure start locations no longer available

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD KILL OFF ALL THE HEROES

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Hey guys, the first slab I found in a necro tower turned out to be made of divine metal for some reason. It's actually light enough to be carried around, so I wonder: is there anything I can actually do with it once I read it, like smelting it into weapons?

>>151149104

use it to smash important figures faces in

>>151149263
I tried throwing it at people but it just falls 1 tile away. It's still weighs 60 units despite being made of rare candy

>>151149383

just wield the thing, 60 is pretty heavy and will smash faces up good

>>151140750
Never stop digging down

>>151145050
They kindly ask the nature to stop falling trees, or else...
They are pretty dumb t b h

>>151120921

Is there any point at all to immigrants? I read that after two years they'll apply to be a citizen and then you can force them to work, is that true?

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>sort dwarves by sexuality
>see this

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>>151152445
>he doesn't mod out aberrant behaviour

>>151152440
You mean visitors. So yes.

The wiki claims that once you accept a goblin/elf/human into your fort, you will learn goblin/elf/human recipes as well, so big swords, pikes, whips, wind instruments, etc.

>>151149104
If you want lots of divine metal just raid an angel vault, they each have 25 angelic warriors and often have extremity armor and lots of weapons.

>>151148262
It seems so. I've gotten adventure embark sites that are no longer an option... while there's still population there.

There's only one last elven forest retreat in my world, which only had 24 in it and dwindled to 18 in short order, so I made a bunch of heavily trained and powerful elven adventurers to protect it.

>>151152440
You can assign migrants labors as soon as they arrive. It's long-term visitors that apply for citizenship after a year or two.

>>151152526
makes for effective military members, and I honestly didnt even know asexual was a thing in DF

>>151145153
Have legends viewer open in a separate window to help parse.

>>151132370
Migrants can decide your fort is too dangerous to visit.

If I make a support out of non-magma safe material, then flood it with magma, it should deconstruct right?
I'm making magma tombs for my fallen warriors, and I don't want to disrespect them by fucking it up.

>>151153202
wait until you get a rare breeding pair and they turn out to be fags that's where the funs at

>>151153446
I was under the impression that constructions are impervious to lava etc. So yes, holding up a mountain on one pillar of ice submerged in lava and on a pillar of soap submerged in water should be safe.

>>151153446
>>151153561

supports are not magma proof

>>151153561
But supports aren't constructions they're buildings. I want to collapse the staircase rather then submerge it and have it blinking in the lava.

>>151154078
Thanks


Now that I think about it I can just connect them to a lever just in case they keep standing.

"He is distracted after being unable to acquire something".

What could that something be? An item made out of material he likes?

>>151154468

new threads

how remove cavy boar coprses? the tunnels are full of miamsa and I need to use them

>>151155262

refuse/corpse stockpile?

>>151155262
haha eppiiiiiiiiiiiiin friend ill meme this right away!

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>>151155658
go ahead, it's all yours my friend :)

>>151154197
>supports aren't constructions they're buildings
kek
only in dwarf fucking fortress

Anyone know what the stats on bogeymen are? Are they fire proof?

I'm dying to see the crayon drawings Toady got on DF's anniversary. Will he ever publish them?

>>151154078
Supports made from magma proof materials are.

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>>151158329

are you sure

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Fuck, this looks nice. I'm still mad about the blocky landscapes, but the way AV reads and renders the maps of distant sites is just gorgeous.

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>>151158374
Yes

What pop limits, settings, etc. do people here use to avoid FPS death, or at least limit it as much as possible? I made the mistake of running a 140pop fort thinking my recently built computer could handle it, but sieges and other random times cause it to be unplayable. I've been trying some things on the wiki to no great result, and if there's a sweet spot pop cap or animal cap to keep in mind that I'd be better off starting over for, I'd like to know what it is before doing so.

>>151158963
I like to mod it so blood, meat, sweat, redundant (colors included) stone, bone, leather, scale, common brown woods, etc. are all of a unified nature.

On the other hand what makes, say, NPC forts and gobbo dark forts horrendously laggy isn't just that they're busy, but because they have 1 square wide ramp ways and hall ways everywhere and the game sometimes implodes due to having that much pathfinding issues.

>>151158963
Soft limit 84, hard limit 94.

>>151158963
there's no magic cure-all, no. generally what I go for is
>pop cap ~90
>embark size 2x2, at most 3x3
>limit domestic animals to 20 or so
>don't overproduce anything
>worldgen shit: 1 cavern layer, no circus
>avoid fucking with large bodies of water, tap into aquifers or murky pools instead
>wall off obsolete mines or parts of the fort that aren't in use

Is there a goal to adventure mode other than genocide?

>>151160261
>DF
>goals

>>151160456
Genocide followed by suicide then.

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>>151160261
>becoming a far-famed musician and starting your own band
>building a comfy cottage in the countryside and retiring there
>raiding a vault, challenging the forces of the heavens themselves
>exploring miles upon miles of uncharted wilderness, while taking notes of the local geology, flora and fauna

Hey, thinking of starting a new Masterwork game (newest .13 version).

Currently looking through the options, and I see half the stuff is disabled by default (like invading civs, some sub-mods, etc).

I imagine it's because that's Meph's suggested "first try" setting, but I'm curious if anyone else plays it:
What kind of settings do you run?

Personally, while I like the concept of invading civs, I imagine turning them all on would be hell on world generation and history, so what would you recommend for it?
Thinking of starting as Dorfs if that matters, maybe creating a human settlement if I get bored of it/it gets achieves maximum fun. If that matters.

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>>151160719
>thinking of starting a new Masterwork game

>>151160625
>tfw your drummer gets his arms cut off

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>>151160768
>Not trying new things
>Not embracing that it might turn out you made a bad decision, but you learn from it and it was your bad decision to make, in a DF thread

When I make a new squad, what should I do so that when I am assigning dwarfs to that squad I am shown their weapon wielding skills at the top of the military screen? I sometimes see weapon wielding and sometimes if they are wrestlers or not.

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>>151161042
Mastershit is bad, okay?

>>151161042
>can I ask about rimworld here?

>>151160261
>attempt to save a nearly extinct race or faction
>rescue children from goblins
>fight off goblin invasions singlehandedly
>fight through an angel vault to get armloads of divine metal for your fort and a true name to either enslave or banish the demon lord of the goblins fore
>bring human or elven adventurers to your fort so you can learn how to make long swords and wind instruments
etc

>>151161341
>Stop liking what i don't like

>>151161191
preferred weapon will show any weapon skills

no weapon will show wrestler

assigned weapon type will show skill in that weapon type

I think

>>151160719
I do a lot of changes.

One thing, vampire civ just plain doesn't work at all. They're just normal people.

The enemy races should probably be modded to have kill_neutral:required like goblins.

You should experiment with a given world and see how many civs you can cram into it. You can always re-gen the world with same settings but more races.

>>151161341
Well, the way I look at it, pretty much everything can be turned on and off, so why not tell me what's so bad about it, and I turn it off.

>inb4 "all of it", including unrelated but included mods, extra creatures, extra resource types, world generation/embark configuration and all that stuff down to the very last bit of data.

>>151161605
Alright, think I'll try that, thanks!

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>>151159525
>Don't overproduce anything
I have the feeling that I went very wrong with this.

>>151161453
>"rescue" children from goblins
And what do you plan to do with those children anon?

I am a DWARF
And I'm DIGGING a HOLE
DIGGY DIGGY hole
DIGGING a HOLE
xD

>>151160719

This isn't the thread to discuss modding DF, this is for unmodded DF only. If you want to discuss modding DF to make it easier, feel free to start a new thread about Mastershit.

>>151161805
Bring them to their parents obviously.

So is there a way to order things made from a central production menu, or do I seriously have to track down individual workshops to click on them?

>>151161502
hi meph

>>151161961
man, not even him, but you are an idiot
this is /dfg/ not /unmoddeddfg/
It's content related to the game

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>>151161961
>This isn't the thread to discuss modding DF

STOP liking what I DONT LIKE

>>151161673
Another thing is you should consider the amount of secrets enabled. The mancy stuff adds a shitload of them, which range from impossibly borked (cheese and wine-mancy) to useless (watermancy) to automatic win (cryomancy, which lets you... shoot webs... for some reason, and thus instantly paralyze and get unlimited opportunity attacks on anything in the game). The Earth Strikes Back stuff adds 4, which amount to not being attacked by certain kinds of rock creatures.

If you use the mancy stuff, remove the ones you don't like.

Be honets /dfg/, is the myth update gonna be dissapointing in your eyes? what do you expect from it?

>>151162324
Hey Meph, where does it say mastershit, lazynoobpack, and pony fortress in the OP, out of curiosity?

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>>151162718
SERIOUSLY stop LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE

>where does it say lazynoobpack
>>151120921

>>151162550
I expect many 1000s of worldgens to try to get the stuff I actually like. And not disappointing, just frustratingly uncontrollable.

>>151161789
The "items" entry at the bottom of the list is a bug thag's fixed in the latest versions. You don't actually have 5 million items.

>>151162718
>Lazy Newb Pack in the OP
Not him, but I'm fairly certain right here:

>>Starter Pack (Out of Date):
>http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126076.0

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>>151161961
Hating on masterwork is the right and natural order of things, but that is just a stupid fucking thing to say. You're giving mastershit hate a bad name.

>>151163007
I would hope not. I'm on 42.03 or whatever the latest LNP compatible is. Anything I stockpiled too much off that jumps out? This is my first fort that lasted past the first siege so I kinda just made as much of everything as I could just in case.

Also do traps contribute that much to lag? I have cage and weapon traps all along the border of my embark site as well as multiple trap hallways.

>>151161961
I think the distinction here would be that we are cool with modders, modding, and fuck it if people want to use a pack or something go for it... collecting mods and then using donations to go get your bike stolen overseas is another matter.

>>151158392
The lower res distant landscapes are better than the flat green planes that were there before.

>>151162989
How do you feel abou the hostility and fantasy sliders to have more control on the outcome of each world?

>>151163568
Sounds good, we have no idea how it'll be in practice.

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>>151163568
Not thatanon but I expect a lot more granularity to be exposed just by those two dimensions, especially when combined with the existing options for world-gen.

I can use PW and a general feel for what the different sliders do to produce the worlds I want, but being able to have overlaying changes to the raws without having to go in directly and do it will be awesome.

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>>151163568
>hostility slider>>151163669

Oh boy, we know exactly the kind of stuff we are getting into


BERSERK LIKE WORLDS CONFIRMED BY TOADY

>>151162209
>click
Assign a manager though the (n)obles screen, make him a nice office and press j-m-q.

>>151163428
>Also do traps contribute that much to lag?
No, they're completely unrelated phenomena, until you start talking engineered defenses, which can have an fps cost.

>Anything I stockpiled too much of that jumps out?
You've gone way overboard food, you shouldn't have even a quarter of what you have in unprocessed food. Maybe a bit far on ammo, depends on how much you burn through in training. Too much armor and clothing, you can probably stop producing for at least a few years, and either sell, smash or magma some excess. You have a lot of stone, well into the impractical range, but if you're digging a big fort that just comes with the territory and isn't really solvable. If you're very concerned about fps you should dig big forts, though.
Overall your item count shouldn't be hurting you too badly. In the testing thread on bay12 thag demonstrated a connection between item count and fps loss, the numbers had to get well into the hundreds of thousands before a measurable decrease appeared.

>>151163983
The game is already, or can be fairly Berserk like. I tend to set night trolls to 1000 and enable boogeymen, so as soon as night falls towns are surrounded by night trolls searching for humans to rape, and adventurers are frequently set upon by bogeymen. In addition, goblins appear to be digging down into Hell, and the ones that reach there (only seen one dark fort succeed so far) free demons to roam the countryside.

But yeah, I can't wait to see what the maximum horror slider will be.

>>151162550
I feel like it will be the most amusing bloat ever
Jk

From all the interviews he has done on the regard, I feel he is/has been doing a great job researching how myths work for the game
It'll surely, along with magic, become the recognizable new pillar of dwarf fortress in the future, and we will ask ourselves how could we play the game without them

>before anybody asks
here's the video where Toady talks more about the update, also shows software about it
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8zwPdPvN10

>>151164314
*shouldn't dig big forts
Is what I meant.

>>151163983
>"Try to look at the bright side."
>Urist McWormdorf has been ok lately, she lost another loved one to the lake of bile, she was haunted by dead loved ones in her sleep recently, she endured the decay of a child recently, she endured the decay of her own bodyparts recently, she was joyful at only having to choke on miasma lately, she felt a general sense of oppressive fear about her existence lately.

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>>151158392
Do you see how close this is to isoworld?

>human merchants panic and leave when they see a weaver/woodcutter hack a crundle's head off on her way back from gathering webs
welcome to cavern life, you soft topsiders

>>151162550
No, it won't be dissapointing, I think it will be the completely oposite

At last this game will deserve the title of 'Fantasy Simulator' everybody calls it

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>>151164314
How about the animals? I have war dogs tethered all over the embark site and cavern to alert me early to werebeasts and such, but if they cause a bunch of lag I'll kill them off.

The ammo is mostly due to training, plus a thousand arrows picked up from goblins. Honestly I think I'll not make a marksdwarf squad again this update anyway, too much work to put together, much much longer to train than a conventional squad, and their AI is a lot worse. I have 3 squads, hammerlords, axelords and marksdwarves, and the lords put in 4x the work the marks do.

But yeah, from what I've read and eliminating the items as a likely source of the lag, its probably my base layout. I've used 3 wide hallways throughout the entire fort and have a couple layers completely dug out, so I imagine that's pathfinding issues out the ass.

>>151162718
Right in your mother's cunt
It's a great hiding spot for info, because nobody wants to get near it

>>151165493
Nuffin' personal kid, but there's a whole rest of 4chan for this shit.

>>151165484
A tethered animal or a caged animal isn't pathing anywhere, so that's fine.
And if you only have 1 squad of marksdwarves 6k ammunition is definitely excessive. Sell or smash the gobs' arrows, make another squad, and stop producing for a while. You can have your squads rotate on and off duty so you don't deprive yourself of too much labor. Marksdwarves are most effective en masse anyway.

Any idea why my militia commander's designated weapon would have been dropped in the hallway and forbidden?

He hasn't been in a fight there and his equipment status was showing that he has a weapon (or at least thinks there is one for him). Did he just drop it for some random reason and go on to practice misc. object usage instead for months?

>>151166472
He's not dead is he?

Was it damaged?

>>151165305
Merchants can be triggered by butchering? That would explain Dwarf caravan panicking on emergency Depot near butcher shop.

>>151166671
I think it was combat that did it. bizarre because I've seen the human merchant guards fight off trolls and ogres by my depot before and that did nothing, maybe the merchants that came this time were particularly flighty

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>>151166449
5k of it is bolts, half metal and half wood. Maybe I just don't keep track of them very well, but I find on the off chance the marksdwarves actually start training they burn through the training bolts like lightning. I definitely don't need that many metal bolts in reserve, but I was training my weaponsmith with it on repeat and forgot about him.

Speaking of caged animals, am I the only one that enjoys putting caged gobbos and their creatures all around their fort?

Amazingly strange, I ran into 3 goblin recruit zombies, 1 of which had a steel helmet. That must have meant that some fucking how a goblin got a steel helmet from the dorfs, and died during worldgen in an evil biome. Unbelievably weird.

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>>151166604
The weapon seems fine, no reason why he shouldn't be wielding it.

He was chilling in the barracks practicing with his other stuff. When I unforbid the weapon he immediately went to pick it up and continued his drills, so it was probably the one he thought he should be using. He had just left it on the floor and it had been forbidden for some reason.

>>151167443
Actually, seems that it happened as a result of the three goblins that died taking a dwarven hillocks nearby. It fucking amazes me that the game has the level of detail.

Now I have goblin bone jewelry galore.

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Hey guys, I have never played dwarf fortress, and don't really think I'll be able to get into it due to my casual nature.

But I do really like the idea, and I really want to experience a dwarf fortress world. Is there any kind of sandbox-type option available either in vanilla or through mods?

I would love to see an AI build a fort without me having to do anything, leaving me free to look around and inspect all the inscriptions, witness the conflicts, watch the place grow and laugh at the dumb shit that seems to happen nigh-constantly in this game. I think it would be very comfy.

is this a thing I can do?

>>151152445

Wait what, since when did Toady add sexual deviancy to DF?

>>151168047
not really. you can go into adventure mode and explore generated sites, complete with temples and taverns and libraries and stuff, but they aren't really functioning forts

bear in mind that the difficulty of fort mode is massively overstated, and the majority of the learning curve is adapting to the interface, learning the key commands, and getting a grip on all the choices you have (most of which you'd end up doing for what you want anyway)

>>151168605
.40 I think? Now you can wonder if you're going insane when your farm animals that you only embarked with one male aren't breeding, and it turns out your one pig is gay.

>>151168047
You can make your dwarves invincible, never having to eat, etc. and turn off invasions.

In fact, as food and booze production are ridiculously trivial, embarking on a lone island is already practically sandbox mode.

>>151161892
disturbing

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>>151167443
Zombies get spawned with armor now sometimes.

Similar stuff happens with mummies if you wake them and then get far enough away or save so they disappear from the tomb, they show up later in the world somewhere.

I was bashing on this one for skillups, most of the damage on that training axe was from bouncing off of the steel helmet they wore.

How about we post greentext about the game up to 20 years in the future
>be me
>this dwarf has aproached me in the tavern and she seems to think that I'm cute
>Aparently, that's what the non-verbal comm. tab says
>buy her a procedurally generated drink
>When the bartender comes, tip him so she thinks I'm a nice guy
>Her trust bar towards me augments
>'Just as planed'
>I tell her about all the monsters I have slayed
>She tells me about all the other female dwarves she has fucked
>Thank Toady for removing the dumb ' Can only have love with the same guy for all of your life rule'
>We head towards my place
>The dwarferina seems pretty drunk at this point
>Weird, she only drank one bottle, and I didn't give her the dwarven ruffies I bought from that weird alchemist on the road
>Think that she simply must be a litghtweight
>Wait, the door's lock has been broken
>I head inside my house, which the king gifted to me after I saved his daughter from a were-cat
>Sober a bit, because the golden lock was a good gift from the king for not having fucked his daughter
>Push the button that opens the secret room, fearing the worst
>Thank god, they didn't stole ''Melek illnesesgone the red pants of love''
>Come out of the secret chamber, all the torches are off and the dwarf is gone
>I trip on with a metal box that wasn't there before
>'Your pride takes the full force of the impact'.jpg
>Open the box, still lying on the ground
>-Gotcha, you elf lover, signed -your mom
>Suddenly am unconscious
>die
>Later in legends it appears that it all was a carefully planned robery of my artifact pants, and the girl I picked from the bar's job was to entertain me until they figure out where the treasure was and then take me to my house to kill me
>Not even mad
>send Toady 10 bucks along with the story written on it to his retirement house

>>151169714
It's a good song. And should be the official thread theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytWz0qVvBZ0

>>151170663
cringe

When is toady going to let you impregnate females of all races with your dwarf adventurer.
>tfw you cant fuck a forbidden beast and come back 10 years later to fight your horrific hybrid monster children

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>>151170663
>>be me
>dwarferina
>Your pride takes the full force of the impact'.jpg
>Not even mad

>>151170769
?

>>151170663
>putting in all this effort
>not sparing a paragraph to detail the femdwarf's luscious beard

If you approach the Vamp Dwarfs den
Turn round dont enter in
Lest the fang of the almighty fall on you.

He'll drink you up (he'll drink you up)
Yes, the Vamp will drink you up
If you dare to be alone with him.
He'll drink you up (he'll drink you up)
Dont you know he'll drink you up
So you better do some drinkin while you can.

Long ago a dwarf named Lot
Had a wife he thought was hot
But she could not stop her profaning and necromantic ways.
You know it was her own damn fault
When a Deity cursed that bitch to salt.
Thats the way they used to work back in those days(Age of Myth):

He drank em up (he drank em up)
He really drank em up
When the dwarves went and turned their backs on him
He can drink you up (he'll drink you up)
No shit he'll drink you up
Just like he fucked the dwarves up back then.

I used to have a dwarf named Ray
Who walked that evil profaning way
He cursed and drank and raised his neighbor from the dead
You know Ray was full aware
That some carp were over there
And he knew them in the Biblical sense.

His deity fucked him up (he fucked him up)
He went and cursed Ray up
Went and paid him back for all his wicked sins.
He fucked him up (he fucked him up)
Fucked that boy completely up
Now hes married to an elf.

>>151170576
Hmmm. Yeah, but I figured the armor was what they had when they died. Examining the steel helm says it was sized for goblins, ie. gobbos stole the secret of steel from dorfs and made their own, it seems, due to the dorf hill town being occupied.

That must be why sometimes I see NPCs with items they shouldn't be able to have, like I've seen occasional human weapons in dorf sites.

>>151173624
Now translate it into dorf and make a Swerwer styled song from it.

>Poet have Fey mood
>I need shell
God dammit, this will be my second dorf lost to strange mood. And here I asumed I prepared fort for moods this time.

>>151175316
>not making sure each workshop is enclosed in a room that can be turned into a tomb in seconds.

How exactly do insurrections work? There's no gobbos at this hill site, as far as legends/world populations say, and inviting people to insurrection and then waiting a bit results in them saying the oppressor has been vanquished... but then when I ask about troubles they still say they're occupied and that there's no local ruler. Wat do

>>151175316
damn, that is some rotten luck my dude. haven't had anyone demand shell in ages

Since I started playing I had this fixed idea that pretty much anything except beds had to be made of stone or metal, if possible.

Lately, I came to the realization that basically not even a single elf is getting pissed off by this type of fortress. Now I build with a large above ground section, all made of wood. Furniture, unless required, is made of wood. Curiously, the first petitioner to join my fort is an elven poet, who seems to not have any problems with living in a room entirely made of murdered trees.

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My first attempt at a reservoir, will this work?

>>151176263
where are the floodgates? why is there a direct connection from your main staircase to water?

>>151176625
he's just emptying a pond, anyway, so it's not like it can cause any major harm

I agree that it's stupid, though

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r8 my entrance, anons.

Basically, the entire fort is situated on top of a huge artificial mountain plateu, but I won't be able to show it in all its glory until AV becomes compatible with the current version.

>>151177360
Really nice, actually. Works well with the tileset, too.

>>151176625
Putting a pump at -5 for a dwarf to use.

>>151177360
what if they come in from above?

>>151120921
no multi-threaded pathing, no care.

Fps death = ded game.

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>>151178351
Like I said, I've created an artificial plateu which can only be accessed via two bridges.

Pic is the top of the plateu. The shadow in the upper central part is from the other bridge. The two big buildings are my temple and tavern. Below them are my tempoerary dwellings and mason/carpenter workshops.

Sure, the enemy CAN climb to reach me, but they won't as long as the two bridges are acessible.

>>151179251
That's great! I suppose this is a 43.05 game, so there's no chance of seeing it in a 3D visualizer?

>>151179251
Why don't you just floor off the access routes for safety.

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>>151179251
I love building on lone hills like that, I always wall off whether it's necessary or not though
for reasons more to do with looks than security, I usually have a row of walls around the hill on the level below (on top of the natural ramps), and then another layer of wall on the main fort's z-level

>>151145050
Are there beavers in the game? Imagine them cutting trees and the elves blaming you, haha, so funny, not.

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>>151179858
Yeah.

>>151179865
Not my style. What I did with this mountain was that I cropped it on its sides, resulting in high vertical cliff faces in every direction. Now, I'm just starting building at the top of the hill, and then let the buildings gradually "climb" down the slope. The cliff faces act as the boundary to my settlement.

If an enemy manages to climb up in an unexpected place, that's just fun.

>>151180238
Loving that fort senpai. Reminds me of those iron age hillforts.

>>151182481
>Reminds me of those iron age hillforts.
kind of what I was going for. I think the z-level below (you can see the outline of it) was also eventually walled off and used as a pasture for animals
sadly that was all very early in the post-tavern era and I had no idea what I was doing, eventually the neverending hurricane of uncleanable vomit, blood, beer, and god knows what else that caked the whole surface of my fort drove me insane and I retired it
so many people died in that tavern

So is there a screen for companions other than 'c'? I swore I hit some button that talked about equipment and such at one point, that was unlike any other adventure mode command.

>>151180238
fuck, now I want to make a pretty hill fort. maybe I'll wait til we have a working visualizer though

>>151184870
>night creature not in his lair, only his spouses

Any tips on how to find him?

>>151184870
We do. It's called Stone sense.

>>151185274
doesnt that require dfhack?

How do insurrections work? What happens if you convince the people to revolt?

>>151185706
you pretend it works.

>>151167743
>>151174252
I hate to disappoint you, but the reality of it isn't as interesting as you're interpeting it to be. The zombies didn't spawn with steel because they died with it, the game doesn't track creatures' equipment in worldgen. The goblins didn't steel the secret of steel, that's not a thing that can happen, every civ has exactly the tech they're set to have in the raws from the begining of the world til its end. The reason they had steel gear is because the necromancer faction can have steel gear. Literally any humanoid zombie in any world has a chance to spawn with steel. The game just rolls the dice the first time they're loaded into a map with the player, and sometimes the dice come up steel.

I want to make a massive tomb fort for an adventurer to explore later.

Just outside my fort there is group of peach and apple trees grouped tightly together. I made stepladders, set a gathering zone, and now my dwarves have gallons of cider.

What to do with all these apple and peach seeds tho?

>>151186875
k

>>151186997
Plant them in magma. Not joking, they have no use.

>>151186997
dump them via the stocks menu

#1 most annoying thing about herbalists and fruit in general, but if you can set up your dump zone near your seed stockpile, I think it's worth it

>>151187216
>Not trading them to elves in exchange for the few actually usable items they own, making sure that their civilisation keeps growing trees and selling apples for all eternity so that you can continue laughing at them from your pioneering bastion of industry

how to fuck do you beat a bronze colossus

every goddamn attack glances away

>>151188295
in fort mode or adventure mode?

>>151186091
It wasn't worldgen, they had defeated the government and 3 gobbos had died in the attack. They were also reanimation biome zombies, not necromancer zombies.

>that's not a thing that can happen, every civ has exactly the tech they're set to have in the raws from the begining of the world til its end.

I'm not so sure about that. I'll give you an update later.

Question. I know dwarves can worship deities, and I've had one visit my fortress before (I killed it to see if I could). Is there a mood penalty for having a dwarf kill a deity that it worships? Is it even possible?

>>151188395
Absolutely not, deities barely exist in game.

Now, I think the [POWER] tag still works on megabeasts. Not sure if they impersonate specific deities like demons did. If so, an intelligent, can_speak, and power megabeast may be able to impersonate a certain deity. Who knows what a dorf will think, if anything, of the impersonator?

>>151188374
adventure

>>151188945
Yeah I guess impersonator is what I meant. Dwarves do worship impersonators don't they?

I wonder if there's a way to test this.

>>151188945
It's not impersonation I don't think, dwarves will literally worship a megabeast sometimes. a hydra was one of the most popular deities in an old fort of mine, complete with morbid spheres. presumably it happens over time if they do enough scary, violent things in worldgen/sim

>Human scholar comes to my fort
>Stays months here, drinking my drinks, eating my food and sleeping in my beds
>He suddenly writes a book
>it is titled 'The Human and other travestities' and concerns his coming to my fort

wow rude

>>151190173
>finally figure out how libraries and the paper industry work
>a dwarf scholar in my fort writes a book
>first book I've ever had a dwarf write
>first book written in this fort
>"Can the Fortress Save the World?"
>the book relates to the founding of my fort
>bunch of other dwarves in my fort take turns reading the book

Cool shit.

How do I issue an order to kill all the monkeys

They're stealing my shit and running away

>>151189556
I'm talking about impersonation, not megabeast worship, which is rare and not something I've seen since .34.x.

>>151192149
If they're in a tight group you can order squads to kill everything inside a rectangle, or you can hold down Shift while picking their names from the kill order list to assign multiple targets. If they spawned at the same time they're probably next to each other on it.

Be careful when doing this to cave creatures; the game will usually instantly spawn something else once a layer is depleted of creatures and if it's a GCS things may get very fun, fast.

>>151191607
Nice. I'm about to get into this business too.

Neat game, my artifact coffin got duplicated after unretiring my fort

If I forbid all clothes from a dwarf, will she get naked?

>>151197969
Assign military uniform of nothing and replace clothes, or let her wear boots and gloves.

Guys, this is depressing
Is there anything like ptsd in the game, because one of my dwarves sometimes ceases to do what he was doing because he watches some corpse or something like that, and he stays still half a minute before moving anywhere
He is also flashing the overwhelmed by horror! message

>>151199912
PTSD isn't a thing in DF. The horror is just from being spooked by seeing a dead body.

>>151199912
He's probably just bad at dealing with scary things. Dead humanoids are quite high on the list of those.

>>151199912
sort of, there's loads of stuff like that. dwarves get upset seeing any (non-animal) dead body
they'll also get upset when they find out that one of their relatives has died, and often they find that out through seeing their body

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Aw fugg. Had an incident in the caverns. He lost his head just as the military was a tile away from attacking the jabberer. He didn't keep it together.

Rip in pieces, Fath. ;_;7

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>>151201660

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Ok, what the fuck.
I just had two dabbling weaponsmiths make two masterpiece steel battle axes. Is this a bug, or does it have something to do with their attributes? They're both legendary hammerdwarfs.
and yes, I'm artifact farming

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does this whore have diplomatic immunity or something? she seems to have fallen through the cracks of my vast bureaucracy and has gotten more brazen with every killing and subsequent lack of consequence. I could just summon the marksdwarves to the tavern but where's the fun in that? I don't really want to traumatize the place and blood up all my masterful engravings, I'd rather tie her to a post at the firing wall.

>>151202689
>does this whore have diplomatic immunity or something?
All visitors do. Treat it as the act of war it is and send in your militia.

>>151203451
I've had them arrest numerous other vambards who did the same thing. on that topic, why the fuck do I get so many vampires visiting? there's been at least one here almost consistently throughout the seven years of the fort's life, often there's several.

>build a catapult on the battlements to science trajectory
>designate a stone stockpile beside it
>look back later, entire stockpile is exclusively full of gold nuggets
guys. I get you want to impress visitors but come on.

>>151203810
>I've had them arrest numerous other vambards who did the same thing. on that topic
Sure they didn't belong to your civ or something?

>>151142181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0U84ZbNgcw

>>151204295
Love me some folk metal.

Also check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXbTXfoloNc

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>>151202418
Again!

>>151142181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfu4vfVjmcI

>>151204295
pretty much anything korpiklaani fits this game actually
>those lyrics though
shit, it's perfect.

>>151202418
Yes military dorfs often have high stats, and thus can make monsterpeace theatres 24/7

>>151204295
every video of theirs I open is pure DF
>a guy forging weapons while some dudes party next door
>a guy operating a still so he can get drunk, people outside are playing instruments made of ice
>antlered beastmen wandering through the forest

>>151204295
>>151205278
Wow these are also pretty good :v

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normally I'm not down with wanton elf abuse, but this is ridiculous. she was fighting 1 (one) crundle, AND she had help from another elf merchant
>I've been injured badly. This leaves me so shaken.

If a dwarf uses the well to clean themselves will they contaminate the water somehow or will they NOT spill whatever has been raining along the northern edge of the map into the emergency water supply?

>>151206804
The dirty water will form a pool next to the well. I don't know if said pool can somehow find its way back down, but I don't think it does.

>>151207292
It doesn't leave a pool of water, it leaves whatever contaminants the dwarf had on them when they washed. Contaminants aren't liquids and don't flow, water is a liquid and does flow. The distinction is important.

Guys my greatest fort yet is now suffering from fps death, what can I do?

I haven't even gotten adamantine yet.

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>>151208513
>greatest fort
>haven't even gotten adamantine

>>151208790
I'm lazy, what can I say

>werecapybara comes before the first winter, mid-migrant wave
>SHIT SHIT SHIT, SEND THE FIRST DRAFTEES
>Militia commander dies almost instantly
>it turns into a dwarf and runs away
>captured by the pack of stray dogs milling about outside the fortress.

Well at least we won't be having any werebeast outbreaks.

My mayor/baron was going into the caverns to haul back an article of Fath the miner's clothing and got his liver smashed beyond recognition in the fight with another jabberer. Really rethinking why I thought it'd be a good idea to make giant versions of shit like jabberers.

>tfw a dwarf with a broken liver

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>>151189189
I've got a shot of a dragon impersonating a god somewhere that I talked too after becoming a god myself (with dfhack you go to the convo screen and change one of the entries to talk to your deity to yourself, at which point you can convert others by talking to them) which was rather amusing.

>>151192504
I've seen it in legends a few times in 43.05 alone.

>>151209881
A liver can regrow itself from a single cell.

There is hope, anon.

>>151209881
Livers don't do anything

>>151188384
>It wasn't worldgen, they had defeated the government and 3 gobbos had died in the attack. They were also reanimation biome zombies, not necromancer zombies.

If they were reanimation biome zombies then they couldn't have died attacking a dwarven site, as dwarves don't settle in evil biomes. Not without modding, at least.
But if they were indeed not necromancer zombies, then they could be members of either a dwarven civ or a dwarven civ's bandit group. If they were already zombies when you arrived then it could be a bug with how the game determines site affiliation, improperly equipping zombies of creatures from a goblin civ with gear creatable by the owners of the site they spawn in at.
It is certain, though, that a goblin civ didn't equip them with steel unless you modded the game to allow goblins to create steel. Every entity has a list of allowed material classes, reaction, buildings and items in entity_default.txt that the game refers to when it places civs at the beginning of worldgen. Those determine the full extent of a civ's technology. There's no mechanic for learning new reactions, or how to use new materials, or make new kinds of buildings. It's a long term goal that has only the barest of frameworks in place with the library system.
You can read the details of how the game determines what a civ can produce here:
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Entity_token
Particularly under the flavor and available resources sections.

>>151154468
create enough crafts items of quality and quantity, provide the dwarf with a room with a suitable container (or even just open floor space) to store his possessions inside of, and if the dwarf likes the item he may choose to claim ownership of it.

Not sure on the actual rules for claiming items, but generally if you have 5-10 times the number of items to dwarves, they will end up claiming a few of those items when they try to haul it. Especially if it's high quality or high value.
Make 100 stone crafts, dwarves will claim a few of them randomly as they haul them depending on their needs and personality.

>>151210112
Your character's last name is Gloryhole?

>>151210525
>If they were reanimation biome zombies then they couldn't have died attacking a dwarven site, as dwarves don't settle in evil biomes. Not without modding, at least.

Of course they do, I'm getting worlds 24/7 that have huge amounts of evil biome intrusion. The central area needs to be nonevil, but the surrounding fields can be. I especially like it when there's purple evil glacier encroaching on an elven forest retreat, spoopy.

>There's no mechanic for learning new reactions, or how to use new materials, or make new kinds of buildings.

I think people from other factions can teach you nowadays.

>They could be a dwarven civ bandit group.

That could be.

>>151208513
Depends. What do you consider fps death? What's your fort like? Post some screenshots.

>>151210619
>>151154468
Ironically common quality platinum crowns don't do shit, but a simple -slightly above quality- piece of bone crafts will do it for them.

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>>151211412
Here's my ground floor. I have 130 Dwarves.

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>>151211691
production

I'm getting better at use of water in this game, can comfortably aplly flood gate.
Now operation to recover body and items of unfortunate dorf who was cutting underground wood and fell into cavern lake. And even most of wood what fell in.

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>>151211937
thumbnail got swapped on that one

and here's beds and dining

>>151202689
red wedding that bitch

>>151212164
This is obviously the worst "workaround" but I just got used to playing a 15-20 fps. The trick is to pass time by letting DF run in the background while you touch yourself to Chinese cartoons

>>151211691
>>151211937
>>151212164
Is that the whole thing? There's no reason that fort's fps should be so low, even on a toaster.

First thing: cage or kill those animals. Leave 2 or 3 cats out and tie up a few dogs as lookouts. That's awful, I see more animals than dwarves, and they're just roaming free.

Second: While you work on the first thing find any "tightly closed" doors or hatches and make them not tightly closed. You've probably got a dog or 5 bashing their head against a door trying to path to the other side of it, murdering your fps.
Third: If your caverns are open, close them.
1 and 2 in combination are probably your issue. Unless you're playing on a potato, but there's nothing much to do about that except by a new computer.

>elf diplomat arive after previously warning me about not cutting wood
>he pass dorf felling tree on way into fort
I wonder if he will be mad.

>>151211691
>>151211937
>>151212164

you won't find much here besides what's already on the wiki page, which is population caps, smaller embarks, less animals and so on

and this >>151213132 is the best option, I'm playing at 50 right now, will probably stop at 30 or so, just lower it 10fps each fort

I'm currently in the raws of a mod-added species that's giving me trouble. If I want to stop insane amounts of livestock/animals from appearing in towns/hamlets, would it be better to get rid of [USE_ANY_PET_RACE] or [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PACK]?

Iron Whip - is this cruel weapon?

Is dorf fortress multithreaded?

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saucy. this is a migrant that just arrived, her husband has been here for a couple years

I'm guessing it's a bug

>>151216050
Or maybe the husband arrived first and the wife followed later on

>>151215282
Depends on what else the mod does. use_any_pet_race is probably the issue, but if a lot of creatures were modded to be pack animals then the other could be a problem as well. Further, if the pet tag was removed from many animals then the use_any_pet_race might not be a problem at all. It's hard to know without more information. Your best bet is just try removing them alternately and seeing how it affects the worlds.

>>151215670
We've got pig tail thread, brown recluse spider man thread, yak bull hair thread, draltha hair thread, even adamantine strands if that's how you roll. Take your pick. Strike the earth.

>>151216280
Ok I'll give it a shot.

Is 0.43.05 performance noticeably better than the previous, non-x64 versions? I'm eager to start a new grand project, but I can't really do without Dwarf Therapist

>>151216786
no

>>151217607
Why? Wasn't x64 supposed to safe DF?

What's your favourite Z-level, anons?

What fucking stockpile do empty bags go in?

>>151217843
Finished goods.

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>>151217708
0

>>151217671
he's just memeing

right now I'm running a 32x32 embark with 11 thousand dwarves but goddamn I really miss the rapist

>>151218098
nice. with a waterfall in each dwarf's bedroom, I hope?

>>151218201
>water

do I look like a fucking elf?

I see that dwarves happily harvest plants that don't flash on the screen, but for some reason they don't wanna touch the flashing ones. Does that mean that they have no place left to place those?

My military is overleveled, I reached caverns to late or trained them to early and now my Legendary dorfs are hunting troglodytes in caves.

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>>151218920
my fort has a "don't touch the trogs" policy out of respect for our most important and popular deity
she's watching after all. just something to think about

>>151218920
What are the top 5 most dangerous creatures in The Caverns?

>>151219493
You mean in general or cavern in my fort? (I barely reached and explored them)

I'm not sure about what are top most dangerous creatures and if Giant Cave Spider is in top 5.

Hey /dfg/ how aggressively do you burrow you're dwargs?

Fucking eerie, there's a HUGE amount of forces crawling across this hillocks like ants... goblin zombies. I've never seen anything like it. Looks like necromancers invade NPCs in adventure mode now, or maybe its a slaughtered goblin army.

>>151219493
1. forgotten beasts
2. giant cave spiders
3. POWER GAP
4. POWER GAP #2
5. I don't know, I guess like cave dragons and blind cave ogres and jabberers and shit, which will slaughter civilians effortlessly but not put up any sort of fight against a militia

>>151219835
Where do Plump Helmet Men rank?

>>151220040
just slightly above actual plump helmets

this game sounds awesome, but i will fully admit i am a weak sack of shit and cant get past the graphics issue.

any advice for getting over it? or can you install better graphics?

>>151221464
There's some nice graphics tilesets.

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>>151219698
I don't even use burrows unless the fortress design calls for it.

I tell you people, those trees are nothing but trouble! I forgot to chop down all of this season's growth and the mechanic climbed up one of those and died of thirst. I don't know what the hell was he doing there, there was nothing to spook him so he would climb up or anything.

>>151219493
1) magma crabs
2) magma men
3) fire men
4) some forgotten beasts (they become number 1 if they're made of fire)
5) gremlins

>roc attacks
>military kills it
>roc corpse gets butchered
> over 1300 meat
>fort already had 1000+ meals and 1000+ drinks

Send help. The stockpiles are overflowing.

>Elf diplomat show up to threaten me about some trees.
>Order the military to sally out and meet him at the gate.
>He had a coati man parchment scroll on his corpse titled "Against The Mountainhome" authored by himself.
>The writing has a hint of viciousness to it.

lmao

>>151224541
You should make a bunch of copies and export them to the elven civ for the giggles. Bonus points if you use unicorn parchment.

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Now I have to flood my third cavern layer with magma too. Fucking hungry heads and crundles did this. There's blood everywhere.
We've had awful luck with deadly blood, more than half the FBs we've gotten have had it.

Seriously lads.
Did x64 improve performance or not?

>>151225150
I happen to be in a joyous biome, so I could do that. But, I've been having a problem with wild animals not showing up ever since I made a tavern. Has anybody else had this issue?

>>151226227
Why would it?

>>151226754
Because it'd allow DF to feed on larger amounts of RAM, wouldn't it?

>>151226630
No. You probably just have crundles or troglodytes stuck in trees in the caverns blocking new spawns. There's a limit on the number of simultaneous wildlife groups you can have on your map at a time.

>>151227258
Nah, that's not it. I had some rutherers stuck in a tree but I killed them by spawning lava, and not there's a forgotten beast down there killing everything.
Could it have something to do with me playing on 43_03? I should have mentioned that in the other post.

>>151227258
I have exactly the opposite problem. I have a huge ass tavern, and no one came to visit. could it be that I'm to far away from everybody? I do get a dwarven caravan each autumn normally.

>>151227784
No. There aren't any bugs with wildlife spawns unique to .42-.43.05. Creatures getting stuck on the map (from climbing/flying/swimming) and aquatic creatures spawning very rarely are the only bugs with wildlife spawns I can think of at all.

>>151228371
The mechanics for what attracts visitors aren't well known yet. Proximity to potential visitors is probably a factor, but it definitely isn't the only one.

>>151228732
So you're saying there's mechanisms involved?

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>>151227042
It lets it use more ram, world-gen is faster in later years (I ran the same parameters on 32 and 64 bit, first for three minutes, getting I think 6 extra years, then for 300 years, which took a couple extra minutes on 32 bit, while the 64 bit population was higher in both cases), and it seems to handle high site pops better too.

>>151211140
Vathez means Virginal, so it is Virginal Gloryhole the Blockaded Glade of Taking.

>>151210525
There are weird site pop bugs.

>>151229656
If you touched that blood, would you die?

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I have a dwarven child beating the shit out a terrified troglodyte with her bare hands while playing make believe lmfao.

>>151230057
>she dreams of ruling the world
she won't be stopped. after she sorts out the "clumsy, weak, quick to tire, and slow to heal" stuff anyway

>>151229750
Yes, peer pressure plates.

>Haven't cut down trees since several years ago due to a large coke spawn underground
>Goblin siege arrives
>Immediately after, they say something along the lines of "quit fucking cutting down trees you asshole!"
>6 goblins die to traps shortly after

I have no idea why the goblins of all races cared. The elven caravan doesn't arrive for another season and a half

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>>151231179
Nice

I don'tknow where, I dont know how, but creatures, even ones that can't climb shit somehow appear in my fort from time to time. I dispatched two fighters to take care of a giant cave spider because I know that he will eb busy trying to bte through the steel cap of one of them while the other hacks him up. The better fighter charged in first and the other one is in the library pondering on embryological development. He's real close to getting atom smashed.

>>151231656
check for holes in the ceilings and floors, I guess
also, were those creatures fighting outside by any chance? there's some combination of charging/dodging or something that can lead to warping through 1-tile thick walls, although I think you'd know about it if the spider had been fighting someone right next to your fort

>>151231993
I have a spiral minecart track, and one long staricase leading down to the place where I fill the cart with magma. There were some accidental holes made, but I walled everything off. I even tried stationing my military inside the natural caves and the destination is unavailable. Can creatures pass through tree trunks in any way?