/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist and Payday 2 General

Memes

First for forgotten gay scalies.

>>151345153
That's like 8.8 mil exp from 0 to 80.

You can do 0 to like..40 depending on infamy level with a DW UK Job.

Then it's just straight grinding 8 mil exp from there so just do some Rats cooking. 2 or 3 rounds of 7 bags should be enough for 7 mil exp.

>>151346020
What's some options for solo stealth?
I can't solo rats ovk easily at lowish level, I don't have enough points to invest for a good build. Stealth is super non-rigid in terms of points needed

sixth for Armorer, Biker, and Maniac are shit

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Post masks, rate masks.

>>151348169
>Armorer
>shit
no

>>151346658
You can probably do a couple H&Ts with only a saw to 50-ish. The big stelf exp heists (aka. give more than 1 mil a pop) are like, FF, GGC, and Big Bank but they're long as fuck even assuming you finish them in one try with no resets. Don't know about ED, haven't done it in months so I don't know what the payout is like anymore.

Murky Station I think also gives more than 1 mil exp if you get all 16 bags on DW.

Grinding with solo stealth is pretty slow compared to shooting cops because of how many time barriers there are in each. SR DW used to give like a mil a pop but the Infamy 2.0 debacle had the devs (and mostly the Steam forum shitters) permanently buttflustered about ECM rushing.

>>151348169
>Maniac
>shit
Stop afk'ing in a corner and shoot some cops.

>>151348427
Armorer is a downgrade to both Anarchist and Infiltrator in every way

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>>151216475
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Diamonds Are Forever (diamonds_are_forever)
- High Times (voff_2)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

>>151348650
It's a lot like crew chief, it's nice to have one in the group but they're gimping themselves to help everyone else when they'd probably just be better off having a teammate taking a more effective perk deck instead

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14th for sexy houston

>>151350793
It's not that much of a gimp in this ridiculous Frenzy meta right now so it's not that bad in my opinion.

Armour damage reduction + 36 extra damage reduction means I can do laps at the top of the mountain base and get all the extra Murky loot bags while snipers keep shooting at me, it's pretty great.

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16th for qt sokol

oh man I just love coming back from a along break. Shit tons of mods and broken shits to update/fix

>>151353558
Well I mean even Crew Chief is great with Frenzy right now because Frenzy is busted

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>>151345436
>>Perk Deck Guide (out of date,somebody update this shit already):
it already is

>>151345436
>>151354964
Is anyone doing the updated skilltree guide?

I was thinking about doing it if no one else feels like it

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>>151354015
Enjoy spending the next three hours trying to figurate what the fuck to do with the new weapon and skill balances.

>>151356493
do you actually know what youre doing
will it be nothing but "pick frenzy to win"

>>151356493
I'd say give it a shot because chances are if you wait around for someone else to do it in a general as dead as this it will never get done

>>151356493
Just wait this week update so we know if frenzy still is king of useless shit

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>>151357995
>will it be nothing but "pick frenzy + anarchist + ICTV to win"

ftfy

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>update in 12 hours

27th for YEAH

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O53PMGrM3HM

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28th for more sokol a cute! CUTE!

Why is jacket a part of the PAYDAY gang?
How did he negotiate his way onto the team?
Why would he even join the PAYDAY gang?
Beyond the time discrepancies, I highly doubt 50 blessings would threaten him into heisting, considering what their motives are.
And I seriously doubt he would get into heisting on his own accord. The reason why he even committed the crimes he did, is that he wanted to avenge Beard's death in a way, to get back at the russians. Hell, even when he was killing the cops in Assault (another point, despite assault im pretty sure jacket isnt very keen on killing cops, since after crackdown he only knocks them down on his way out despite being very easily able to kill them. im pretty sure the only reason why he kills cops in Assault was to get to richter for revenge and information)) he was doing it with a russian-killing motive in mind.
Also what the fuck is that tape recorder bullshit? Like I know they didn't want to force a voice on him, but god damn it's canon that he can speak

>>151364713
also another thing that falls under time discrepancy, jacket's fucking dead and the world is nuclear rubble

and jacket fucking hates russians, why would he ever work with one, and why would he ever take orders from one

>>151364713
>>151364810
Not canon.

>>151364810
Dragan is Croatian, slav not Russian.

Sokol is totes Canadian now ;)

>>151364919
I know it's not canon, but it's so fucking stupid. Every other character is fucking canon except for maybe Wick and maybe Jimmy. Even though it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Jimmy to be in the PAYDAY gang, it at least makes sense why HE would be A working with them (to secure the EMP and get into the lab) and B why he'd do it (because he's very much against Akan, and the whole exploring-different-personalities-with-avatars thing). Can't say anything about Wick, need to actually watch that movie.
But boy, Jacket has absolutely 0 reason to even exist outside of being a fucking advertisement

>>151365345
>Can't say anything about Wick, need to actually watch that movie.
Movie doesn't have anything about it.

It's just purely the Chains trailer. Wick wanted a crew, accidentally blew Chains' cover, then asked for a job.

>>151365490
I mean sort of like, judging from the movie, if he would ever actually become a heister. Jacket most likely fucking wouldn't, Jimmy probably would (but I'm also pretty sure coked out whore house jimmy wouldn't be the avatar he would choose), and I don't know about Wick

>>151360880
source?

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>>151365968
Secret serious sources

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>>151367156
So you pulled it out your ass, thanks.

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>there will never be an actual Kawaii Character Pack
>will never spread my toxicity through the entire playerbase
Can I transfer my money to another bank that won't be robbed?

What the fuck is up with all the new players all of a sudden?

>>151364713
>The reason why he even committed the crimes he did, is that he wanted to avenge Beard's death in a way, to get back at the russians.
No, it's because he liked hurting other people
Get that Hotline 2 shit out of my face

>>151374230
What was wrong with Hotline 2?

Besides windows HOLY FUCK FUCK WINDOWS

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>>151373820
>tfw it's not even a free-weekend

I don't see how people are so afraid of this game going full Free 2 play, it's not like we didn't have already the horde of shitters at our gate and hackers doing whatever they want.

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Would you this as an epic skin /pdg/ ?

>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
So why do they encourage griefing all of a sudden?

So instead of just putting frenzy back to what it use to be, I think they nerf'd it into the ground if you wanted to use self healing stuff with it like infiltrator.

Frenzy: Basic now receives 10% less damage taken instead of 30% health damage
Frenzy: Aced now receives 25% less damage taken instead of 60% health damage and healing received is now

>>151381049

Frenzy fags BTFO

Time to git gud

Also time to update the Skill Tree guide now that the nerf hammer fell

>>151381049
Hahah get fuck frenzy shitters

>>151381049

Frenzy: Aced now receives 25% less damage taken instead of 60% health damage and healing received is now reduced to 0% from 50%

>The RPK Light Machine Gun can now use grips from Gage Courier Mod pack

So where were you when the brenner-21 was cucked to oblivion ?

>>151381121
>>151381134

I used it before they broke it, I liked that it was able to get me down low enough to proc berzerker and I could absorb some damage because of the reduced health damage if my armor did break out in the open.

>It took them this fucking long to fix the detection bug with bags

>Big Oil , On day 2, made the engine bags lighter
WEW

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Fuck the KSPfags

>>151381049
Overkill doesn't know how to reasonably balance anything. They just nerf whatever they deem overpowered until it's unusable. You should know this by now.

>>151382402

I just don't get why they didn't return frenzy to how it was before. It was fine how it use to be.

>>151382496
>just don't get why
Because it's Overkill.

>>151382402
>Overkill doesn't know how to reasonably balance anything. They just nerf whatever they deem overpowered until it's unusable.
Doesn't help that the retards on the Steam forums and Reddit relentlessly bitch non-stop about how OP the FOTM tactic is instead of just asking for proper fixes.

>>151382496
It wasn't though, the reason Frenzy was changed to reduce also armour damage was because it didn't reduce health damage properly and actually made damage units proc multiple times a hit or something.

So they moved the damage reduction to a different layer in the system. The multi-hits disappeared but they couldn't separate the damage reduction from armour so instead of fixing the system they just went "IT'S A FEATURE!"

The fact that Frenzy is now going to stay as an armour damage reduction perk means that it will be like Grinder where somebody will always find a reason to call it OP.

Payday 2 balance is pretty fucked.

Thanks Starbreeze.
Thanks OVERKILL.

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>>151382496
>I just don't get why they didn't return frenzy to how it was before. It was fine how it use to be.
>removing more than 60% of your health for a damage reduction that would only apply for the rest of it,

If you were using the muscle perk deck, sure it can get some "uses" as a berserker user to compensate the loss of health but even then it was too fucking expensive for what it was worth.

The nerfed version we have right now is okay although it's really on the edge of being bad.

Am I misunderstanding you guys or did they finally nerf Frenzy?

>>151382769

I use to run it with gambler to keep myself healed and give the teammates the pretty much full benefit of gambler every time because I would have the lowest health.

>>151382845
What are you, fuckin stupid?

>>151382665
>The fact that Frenzy is now going to stay as an armour damage reduction perk means that it will be like Grinder where somebody will always find a reason to call it OP.

Since it's only 25% damage reduction for the aced version (instead of the old 60%) and you still have to spend a lot of points to get it, people will get more the feeling it's balanced unlike grinder since any level 0 shitters could get the full bonuses easily.

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>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health

>>151383280
>>151380969
Doc Bags I can understand but FAKs?

Why?

Do Doc Bags even check if you are downless?

I just don't understand how devs can be so bad at this shit.

>>151383280

They should have made it so you can always use Medikits if you are black and white

That change was moronic otherwise

K, so jules just confirmed that you get the full benefit from healing with frenzy aced. It's not reduced healing anymore.

Time to try it out with lbv grinder then.

How quick do you think the goonmod guys will update?

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inb4 patch dosent touch any of the fucked weapon animations as per usual

>>151382876
>run

fuck off

I just woke up, where are these patch notes?

>>151383865
What, did he proc you?

>>151383756
I wonder if they have any animators left who weren't sniped for the Walking Dead or Dead by Daylight games.

>payday 2 birthday in a few days

sale coming soon?

>>151383906
Here you go you lazy son of a Wick
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/252584970555376917

>>151383906
The same place they always are idiot.

>1 GB of bug fixes
>still no arms and legs hit boxes

JUST

>>151384575
>aiming anywhere other than the head

>>151382891
Yes, for sure.
D-did they?

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>>151383540
Just harass him on his twitter or steam profile page.

Heisters,

We’re live with Update 105.2!

Update 105.2 changelog

Update size: 1GB

General
>Gadgets will now remain activated when switching between weapons!
>Fixed an issue where car windows couldn’t be broken from both sides
>Changed description for ECM Jammer to reflect the correct duration time
>The secondary deployable will now be shown in the inventory screen
>Fixed an issue with the outline on traded converted enemies
>Fixed an issue where bags could not be interacted with when a painting had fallen over them
>Fixed issues with the ammo cost when deploying and picking up Sentry Guns
>Made some critical mission notes readable when on low texture settings
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Fixed a crash when a friendly AI tried to target the SWAT Van Turret
>The sentry gun will no longer fire at a cop in the early stages of domination
>Fixed so that it is now possible to deploy the bipod during the inspect weapon animation
>Fixed a crash that would occur when a money stack with a Sentry Gun deployed on it was picked up
>Fixed outlines on Cloakers not displaying correctly when moving too far away
>Added collision to cop cars to prevent player to accidentally get inside of them
>Fixed an issue where cop’s guns would not spawn correctly
>Fixed an issue where player’s weapons would not show correctly if swapping weapons while in shooting position in a car
>Fixed an animation issue when killing cops that are repelling with fire damage
>Optimized the way steel sight automatic marking works
>Disabled Cloaker attacks on a player in swansong state
>Recoil animation will now play properly when enemies are moving and firing
>Fixed an issue where enemies would not take any explosive damage if standing inside of each other
>Fixed an issue where clients could duplicate the Sentry Gun
>Fixed an issue where Captain Winter’s Phalanx would spawn wrong helmets if killed by a headshot

Anyone else having trouble with concealment?

After the update came out, I went from 3 concealment before the update to 9 concealment after.

Seriously what the fuck???

>>151381049
i'd go with 20%B/35%A

>>151385881
>Fixed an issue during stealth where Sentry Guns would continue firing even when broken
>Fixed an issue with detection while carrying bags
>Fixed an issue when having the armor bag equipped. The armor initialization values would still use the equipped armor. This was present until the armor will regenerate for the first time
>Updated the German, Spanish and Italian translations
>Fixed an issue where clients could be tased while inside vehicles
>Fixed an issue where you would get stuck in tased state if looking through a security camera while getting tased
>Fixed an issue where the team AI would remain in stealth state when going loud too quickly
>Fixed an issue where the amount of Suppressed Sentries would be shown incorrectly in loadout

Levels

General
>Changed the contractor video for the Meltdown, Goat Simulator, Santa Workshop, Aftershock, The Diamond, Hoxton Revenge, Birth of Sky and Beneath the Mountain heists.

Biker Heist
>Fixed an issue where players were able to lockpick certain doors that were not supposed to be lock picked
>Removed a defense waypoint icon that wrongly appeared over Mike during certain objectives
>Fixed a helicopter that would not despawn correctly
>Added a collision to prevent players getting stuck behind a shopping cart outside the clubhouse
>On day 2, moved some boxes in the train that players could get stuck behind
>Fixed an issue where additional loot from day 1 would not be added in the payout on day 2

Counterfeit
>During stealth, the level now automatically goes loud when the player blows open the safe
>Added a yellow outline on printed counterfeit money stacks

Hoxton Revenge
>Fixed an issue where the front doors collision would remain if blown open by explosives.

Shadow Raid
>Fixed an issue where civilians could not be moved into the camera room

Cook Off
>Fixed an issue where enemies could move through a shed door

>>151386478
Golden Grin Casino
>Synched cut animation speed to correspond to drill time when BFD is upgraded
>Fixed an issue where debris from skylight would get stuck in mid air after being destroyed by the BFD
>Fixed some cameras that were facing walls

Art Gallery
>Fixed an issue where you could get paintings stuck under cars

Undercover
>Fixed an issue where some of the bigger cardboard boxes would shoot out feathers when hit

Boiling Point
>Fixed an issue where players could get into the compound by jumping over the wall
>Aligned the drill position on certain doors to match keyhole position
>Increased the collision of wood piles to hinder player getting stuck inside the collision
>Moved a can of paint that would appear inside of a log

Firestarter
>Added collision to metal beams sticking out of hangar roof
>On day 2, fixed an issue where one of the windows at the front entrance was unbreakable
>On day 2, fixed an issue where some guards could not be marked during stealth

Goat Simulator
>On day 1, increased the escape zone trigger for the car
>On day 2, removed a hiding location where the cops couldn't find the player

First World Bank
>Fixed an issue where a part of the vault entrance roof was missing collision

Hoxton Breakout day 2
>Fixed issue where you could pick up the servers through walls
>Aligned collision on certain walls and pillars
>Moved a Gage packet that could spawn on the same location as a keycard

Big Oil
>On day 2, made the engine bags lighter

Framing Frame
>On day 3 moved a door to align better with the floor

Street Escape
>Fixed an issue where enemies could move through a wall

Alesso
>Fixed an issue where bags could be thrown through a gate in the basement

Skills
>Removed an extra line for the cost of buying skills in the skills menu
>Fixed an issue where Second Wind: Basic would also give the Second Wind: Ace skill
>Fixed an issue where the saw wouldn't benefit from the Bullet Storm skill.

>>151348390
what's the mask bottom right?
I tried googling payday 2 predator mask

>>151386660
>Fixed an issue where the Close By: Basic skill would trigger on all weapons if interacting with bags
>Captain Winters and his Phalanx are no longer affected by the Heavy Impact skill
>Fixed an issue with the armor bag not working properly when using Jack of all Trades: Aced
>Inspire: Basic now shows correct value of increased speed of revive in description
>Frenzy: Basic now receives 10% less damage taken instead of 30% health damage
>Frenzy: Aced now receives 25% less damage taken instead of 60% health damage and healing received is now reduced to 0% from 50%
>Fixed an issue where it was not possible to mark SWAT Vans when using High Value Target: Ace
>Third Law: Basic now reduces the cost of deploying sentry guns with 5%
>Eco Sentry: Basic now reduces the cost of deploying sentry guns with 5%
>China Puff will no longer trigger Lock ’n Load: Aced
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced can now activate automatically if all players are in custody, at least one player has the skill but has not used it yet and at least one hostage remains on the level
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced can now use hostages taken after the player entered custody
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced is no longer usable in stealth
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced no longer shows a trade prompt for other players when used
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced skill now triggers correctly during assault
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced prompt now appears correctly for the player when the skill can be used
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced will now trade the player who has the skill and not the one that spend the longest time in custody
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced now only works for players with the skill
>Fixed an issue where Equilibrium: Ace was not applied
>Fixed an issue where Optical Illusions: Ace would apply to all weapons

>>151386801
Sound
>Hitting a vehicle or a Sentry Gun with a melee attack will now play the correct sound
>Increased bullet hit sound max distance from 20m to 40m
>Fixed an issue where the drill’s break sound would play indefinitely when upgraded by clients
>Improved the weapon sound balance

Steam Market
>Removed drill counter on free safes in the steam inventory


Weapons
>Microphone Stand will now be properly aligned when charging
>Tweaked first person camera for the Akimbo Compact-5 and Akimbo Krinkov
>The RPK Light Machine Gun can now use grips from Gage Courier Mod pack
>Fixed an issue with accuracy not being correct with shotguns while aiming down sight while using steel sight

Perk Decks
>Fixed the description of Maniac: Excitement to show the correct amount of damage conversion amount

Achievements
>Fixed an issue where "Healer-Tank-Damage-Dealer" achievement required 10 points in every subtree
>Fixed an issue where community grenade would not be counted towards the progress for the "Fire in the Hole" achievement

Hope you’re having a great summer!

>>151386734
Looks like Mega Kevin.

So with Frenzy nerfed, what's the new perk deck of the month? Anarchist still good or was it only viable because of its Frenzy synergy?

>>151387383
Depends on whether 25% damage reduction is shitcan tier or still good.

>>151387716
>>151387383
I just tried it after the update and it isn't that good as it used to be before. Back to ICTV + Muscle.

>>151387383
ictv with frenzy and muscle perk deck might still be usable

>>151388632
>more health with a skill that reduces your health
I don't get it.

>>151383393
quick fix ace. get the DR from faks without having to break your armor/take damage first.

>>151389036
Chugging FAKs just for the damage reduction.

That's just its own tier of special right there. Goddamn.

I heard that sentries now use common ammo pool. I guess it's time to refund my 42 skill points.

>>151389130
Well if you already have a FAK lying on the floor and you know you'll never come back for it, at least you'll get some DR from it

>>151389491
I was thinking more like running along, drop a FAK, eat it, then keep running until it runs out again.

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>>151385881
>>151386478
>>151386660
>>151386801
>Overkill Andreas

Hey everyone, it's the cool dev too cool to get his achievements legit.

Been running Frenarchist for a bit. As long as you're not fucking retarded with it, it still works, but it's definitely not a free ticket to Death Wish anymore.

Literally all it means is that anyone running the build just needs to GIT GUD now. Otherwise it's fine.

>>151386261
same desu, my crook build's 4 turned into 9 too

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Anyone else hope schumddle really kills himself?

>>151354964
Stop forcing your shitty edit.

>>151391898
yeah i was using crook too

were you also using the raven and the judge? maybe they changed the concealment on those guns or something

>>151392364
They could've fucked up and a skill's concealment bonus is gone now or something too.

Quick, somebody check for another Arkansas Toothpick with 230 concelment.

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>RPK for a Sneaky Bastard/Low Blow build

Shit idea or not so shitty idea ?

>>151393259
LMGs with crits are pretty fun

>>151392364
Nope, AMR-16 + crosskill

>>151391357
>running

Frenzy suit anarchist is still pretty good. So I assume it's good with ICTV as well.

>>151393259
just use clarion. rpk is terrible

rip mods

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what did he mean by this ?

>>151397343
That better be bait

>>151397343
>Cloakers are hard
>Frenzy nerf is bad
>Silent Shitter is good but don't nerf is plz
So...this kid's a Silent Shitter Ghostfug/Ghostforcer, probably with Crook since he seems to care about armour while still using stelf weapons.

I think this qualifies for a JUST

>>151397164
Not at home so I haven't updated yet. What happened?

>>151397708
Update 105.2.

See >>151386478

>Frenzyfags btfo this patch

I love it.

>>151398091
Then who will carry the dodgefags?

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>>151398091
fun haters, everybody.

>>151383280
I could get using a FAK, if the person deploying them had the damage reduction perk and let's say you were trying to brute force your way through to the escape.

But it probly doesn't consider that, so it is a bad change overall.

>>151398045
Oh shit, BLT kill?

>>151398091
>BTFO
It's still good

>>151398814
No, but goonmod crashes the game if you force load it

>>151398578
>Abuse a broken perk with a broken perk derk
>"W-wow fun hater, I-i just want to get baby-mode DW."

>>151398814
>>151398968
Try deactivating the gadgets module.

>>151398968
Not him but what do you do if you force load and it crashes after? I barely downloaded goonmod yesterday

>>151399276
Delete goonmod_options.txt in mods/saves

>Really like the Broomstick pistol and it's mod (even if it makes it look like a rifle)
>Can't use it on DW since it's base stats are so shit and it can't even break 40 damage with mods.
I hope they buff the dmg on this thing.

>>151399425
Ah thanks anon, I was starting to freak out, I'm new to modding this game. So what should since forcing it will make my game crash?

>>151399110
Still crashes, even with fresh install of mod

I dont really understand Berserker, especially in relation to Frenzy, considering the latter skill gives you such little health, Berserker should always be on right? And apply on all guns minus Rocket/grenade launcher right?

>>151400114
https://www.reddit.com/r/paydaytheheistmods/comments/4x8760/goonmod_is_broken_in_u1052_so_dont_tick_the_force/d6d9hzg

>>151401550
right frenzy's just to keep you in berserker range at all times

>>151381049
>>151381121
>>151381134
oh no, time for it to go back to just easy

So did they finaly fix the health invicibility period being broken with frenzy or what?

>>151402873
Everything is clean. Only the rust perk deck is meta now.

>>151404038
What do you mean by this?

Is "high value target" worth taking? Even with just an assault rifle? It seems good but, as usual is hard to believe Overkill's description of the skills.

>>151383537
>IBV
>Grinder
you stupid or something?

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>frenzy haters

You're all fucking pathetic, i bet if the devs nerfed even more your inspire or iron man skill, you would shit your pants and cry.

>>151386261
Same problem with a 553 and a Judge, as well as a CAR-4 and Judge. Super weird, I had to bring out the Akimbo heathers to get down to three again. Fuck me. I think they broke something.

I also feel like the rapid reload stuff you get off of getting headshots doesn't proc anymore, reloads are super slow again.

>>151407965
Frenzy was a one crutch fits all. Didn't matter what build or play style you had, as long as you had it DW wasn't an issue.

Inspire and iron man don't push literal shit builds/players into DW farming tier on their own.

It's honestly an insult to the old frenzy to even suggest that these skills were even close to it in power.

>>151386261
>>151391898
>>151410105
Are all of your weapons silenced?

Aced Optical Illusions used to apply to all guns, silenced or not. So if any of your guns are unsilenced and you aced AO your concealment would have gone up after the update.

>>151410659
All weapons silenced, yeah. I think they might just have broken OI entirely actually. Takes some looking into.

>>151410659
>AO
OI*

daily reminder that frenzy + infiltrator is still viable

PROC

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Daily reminder to never activate any endless assaults on your DW jobs for fun

>>151414949
>not wanting to have fun

>Fixed outlines on Cloakers not displaying correctly when moving too far away
I thought that was a feature since cloakers are supposed to be all sneaky and if you highlight them when they go to find a hiding place it spoils the surprise

>>151415645
but then again...

>playing pd2 to have fun

>>151379236
hotline 1 is an objectively better game gameplay wise and I personally found the story to be better as well

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>buy the almir asset on Go bank Dw,
>he still refuses to go for the roof of the bank,

Fuck this neckbeard weaboo freak.

>>151416745
>objectively

how does it feel to be wrong

>>151418943
I don't know, how bout you tell me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
seriously though, Hotline 1 is far more polished and better designed than Hotline 2

>>151419150
>far more polished
Not when it crashes all the time.

>>151420192
I'd rather have periodic crashes then getting shot from off screen and less accurate weapons

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>yfw we get an anniversary update for the 13th august

Man I love waking up late.
>Gadgets retain states between swaps
>Sentry gun ammo consumption is fixed
>Sentry gun no longer shoots mid-dominated cops
>Saw now benefits from bullet storm
>Sentry placement skills reduce cost further
>Shotties are no longer pinpoint accurate while ADS
Good.
>Optical Illusions Ace is now fixed
FUCK.

>>151419150
Wholeheartedly agree, Hotline Miami 2 was more about learning the maps by heart than it was about twitch reactions and skill. There were rarely moments in HM1 where you got shot from somewhere you couldn't see or predict first time you run through a level, but it happens every damn time in HM2.

They're both amazing games though.

>>151418943
except hotline 1 IS objectively better designed than hotline 2

hotline miami's strengths are its tight level design and emphasis on variety
HM2 has large open levels and an emphasis on using guns to either shoot an enemy or lure them so you can shoot them, because thats the only viable way to engage them

>>151420192
>game crashing on my machine is the game's fault
I just played through HM1 and HM2, and neither of them crashed once

>>151421518
>hotline 1 will never have carpenter brut's music
why live

>>151374230
>he liked hurting other people
he puked after he killed that bum

he was also compelled to commit the crimes because of threats from 50 Blessings if he stopped killing

Anyone else having a problem with loading the safehouse? It goes to 98% or something and then it starts from 0% all of a sudden and slowly goes back up to 100%. Usually I need to wait like a few seconds for it to load, now its few minutes what the hell...

>>151422147
he also gouged a man's eyes out with his thumbs, punched a man's face into paste, stared into a man's eyes as he choked him to death, smashed a man's head into the ground busted his arm and then lit him on fire, blew someone's head apart while practicing his golf swings, and shot a defenseless old man in the face
and that's discounting the 380+ other people that he killed as well as the dogs he slaughtered

>>151422643
same
also everytime I walk down the stairs in the safehouse the first time there's a huge lag spike like for a second or two before the game catches up and play like normal after

>>151422859
but the bum

also everything pre-trauma is jacket in-coma remembering what happened

>>151423042
>but the bum
one of the first people he kills, he very clearly gets over it pretty quickly and goes on to do much much worse things
>also everything pre-trauma is jacket in-coma remembering what happened
and that doesn't mean it didn't happen

>>151423328
i know, but things are a bit exaggerated, usually made clear with the static that appears

>>151423041
When I first started Payday 2 years ago I didn't have that huge freeze problem, but after some xy update it started happening and it still exsist to this day. I got used to it, but jesus waiting a few minutes to load the safehouse is godamn bullshit.

>>151423541
Except he chokes Richter out, smashes the club owner's face in, and shoots the mafia grandfather in the face all after trauma

>>151423678
He doesn't kill richter.
Either way, he was compelled by 50 blessings for everything pre-trauma, and compelled by avenging beard for everything pre-trauma and post-trauma

Favorite heisters?

>>151424162
fuck off

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>>151424162
sokol

>>151423974
>He doesn't kill richter.
If you walk on top of his body after hurting him in his jail cell you start to choke him to death
>Either way, he was compelled by 50 blessings for everything pre-trauma
He also like hurting other people
>and compelled by avenging beard for everything pre-trauma and post-trauma
He was avenging his girl's death mostly
To imply that Jacket would have an obscene hatred for everyone and everything Russian doesn't really make sense, especially given the context of the first game not taking place in an alternate history where the cold war turned hot and his military experience
It is ridiculous to imply that Jacket isn't a major sadist after all the shit he does in the first game coupled with the commentary from his consciousness between chapters

>>151424162
Dallas, Houston, Clover and Sokol.

>>151424162
Clover's hips

>>151424393
I think he meant canonically richter didnt die

>>151424387
Cloaker smoker.

>>151424393
Since HM2 is canon whether you want it to be or not, Jacket does not kill richter. Richter is alive at the end of HM2, before nuclear annihilation.
>He was avenging his girl's death mostly
He killed russians. Killing richter would be avenging her death, but canonically, he doesn't.
Jacket fought in the Hawaii conflict alongside beard and some others. Beard saved jacket's life. It's shown in a cutscene that beard and jacket are still close, or at least in touch, before beard is killed by a russian nuke.

And considering the last thing you see of jacket at the end of HM1 is him letting go of the polaroid of him and beard, it's to be assumed that he finally has a bit of closure, and it's probably why he turned himself in.

>>151424162
>Dallas, Chains, Wolf, Hoxton
>original crew buddying it out like the good old days; Dallas as the leader, Chains as the serious muscle, Wolf as the absolute madman, Hoxton as the wiseguy
>Houston, Clover, Dragan, Sokol
>Houston trying and failing to fill for Dallas as the team leader, Clover as a smarmy wise cracker, Dragan as the more serious type like Chains but barely able to communicate ideas because of his accent, Sokol like Wolf as the wild one of the group going out of the way to almost ruin everything
>Wick, Jacket, Jimmy, Bodhi
>all do their own things in their own ways since none of them are career heisters
>Sydney, Bonnie, Rust, Jiro
>Sydney and Bonnie shlick to Rust pounding Jiro's glory hole

>>151424227
y

>>151425663
your ruining this general

>>151425663
>>151425841
Yeah, don't you know this general is for Hotline Miami discussion only, no PAYDAY discussion allowed!

>>151425841
how

>>151425958
your shit

>>151426078
how

>>151425938
Speaking of hotline miami, what do you guys think of the master detective Manny Pardo and his epic quest to find the mysterious and enigmatic miami mutilator?

>>151426193
you use frenzy and silent killer

>>151426298
I'm still surprised they would choose some lame low level criminal like the masked killer, instead of clearly a much more dangerous psychopath, a truly sick individual, the miami mutilator, for the cross over.

>>151426456
o shit got me

>>151425262
>Since HM2 is canon whether you want it to be or not, Jacket does not kill richter. Richter is alive at the end of HM2, before nuclear annihilation.
Dennaton never planned on or wanted to make a sequel when making Treating the sequel's canon as overriding the first game's is just stupid, especially since giving Jacket these new motives in the second game renders the id, ego, superego scenes of the first game pointless
>He killed russians. Killing richter would be avenging her death, but canonically, he doesn't.
Again, there's little reason to believe that he was going out of his way to hunt down the rest of the russian mafia since without the secret ending for HM1 you wouldn't even know that them being russian was of any significance
The secret ending's revelations is espcially noteworthy since the whole alternate time line of the cold war going hot doesn't really correspond to how the janitors explain their plan at the end sounding like they just don't trust the soviet union
There would be no reason for Jacket to hunt down the russian mafia after Richter tells him he's not the mastermind behind his girlfriend's death if he wanted revenge on just Richter and if he just hated russians then there'd be no reason to go after Richter
>Jacket fought in the Hawaii conflict alongside beard and some others. Beard saved jacket's life. It's shown in a cutscene that beard and jacket are still close, or at least in touch, before beard is killed by a russian nuke.
And that's likely what breaks Jacket, not just him going on a revenge rampage against russians because they're russian and he fought them in the war
>And considering the last thing you see of jacket at the end of HM1 is him letting go of the polaroid of him and beard, it's to be assumed that he finally has a bit of closure
Him looking off into the distance corresponds with the generic hero looking over the sunset, plus why would he suddenly stop hating russians after just taking out their miami mob family

>>151426298
it's a shame that those stupid furries wearing animal masks are getting more coverage than the mysteriously elusive miami mutilator, the game would have been a lot better if it focused on a more complex and interesting antagonist

>>151424162
Jiro.

I love screaming at people in moonrunes.

>>151426481
Of course not, adding such a brutal, cunning and sexy individual to the game would be too much for the payday gang to handle. After all, if they added the exotic shadow killer, they would also have to add the Hansome and barve cop Manny Pardo who wouldn't let him get even 5 minutes of fame

>>151426778
Jacket's motives don't really change that much from HM2. His primary compulsion for the first acts is 50 Blessings, and his primary compulsion for the final act is closure.

There is reason to believe he was going for the rest of the russian mafia. Not only does he storm the police station for information to the place, he isn't being ordered by 50 Blessings to do this.

Obviously Jacket was seeking revenge as well when he stormed the police station, and spares Richter when he richter mentions the 50 Blessings phone calls.

The Russo-American coalition, which IS mentioned in the secret ending (as well as beard's line about "i haven't felt this way since san francisco") means that the world as it is in HM2 is the same canon world in HM1, that the 50 Blessings wants to topple the RAC - and that the RAC exists - by killing the Russian mafia.

>corresponds with the generic hero looking over the sunset
But the polaroid is significant, at least to jacket. It's his only keepsake of Beard.
I don't think he stops hating russians at the end of HM1, I think after killing the Father and the Grandfather, he is brought at least a bit of closure. Richard's "never see the full picture" makes sense in this context as well - killing the Father and the Grandfather wont change anything

Reminder that if you have goonmod, add this to the end of "mods/GoonMod/lua/NarrativeTweakData.lua"

it will prevent crashing

function NarrativeTweakData.init(self, tweak_data)
self.orig.init(self, tweak_data)
Hooks:Call("NarrativeTweakDataInit", self, tweak_data)
end

>>151386975
>>151386975
>Sound
>We still did not fix that annoying bug that makes hoxton use his "get down" lines instead of his "stay down" lines in most stealthable heists,making him repeat the same 4 short lines over and over again
makes crowd control in jew store a pain in the ass

>People arguing over the plot of a game that was made vague on purpose.

>>151431054
More like people are confused over an accidental abortion baby sequel's retarded plot and confuse its convoluted mess of a story for depth

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i haven't played this game ever since it started going downhill fast after big bank
is it worth coming back to

>>151433281
also be honest with me
how common is it seeing full retard glitter gun skins

>>151433281
>snek
BEHEAD

VIGILO CONFIDO

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>>151433964
here is a doggo 4u instead

http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/payday-2-the-big-score/133638
Everytime i see this i feel bad for the people who wasted money on the console version

>>151434049
I hate doggers, something to do with my childhood.
As for your question, yes, probably. Pretty much everything (aside from Overkill being jews) has changed since Big Bank's release, it's worth checking out at least. And the game is still fun desu.

>how common is it seeing full retard glitter gun skins
I sure hope you don't intend to play with pubs. :^)

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>>151434841
please don't do this to me I just want the tightest crew ever using non-retarded guns
speaking of, the only mod I used was "disable john wick" please tell me there is something to disable every shitty new character I don't care about

>>151435142
>I just want the tightest crew ever using non-retarded guns
Try making friends.

>disable john wick
You know, I was about to say that they aren't all as bad as Wick.
But then I realized
They're all on Wick's level.

>>151435574
you are meaning to tell me the tightest crew ever are now OUTNUMBERED THREE TO ONE by john wicks

Need a good AR/Pistol build any suggestions

>>151435845
That is EXACTLY what I'm saying.
I'm guessing there is a mod to disable most of them, but I wouldn't know where to find that, sorry.

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>>151433964
pls don't kill snek

>>151414116
fuck off

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>>151410105
>proc

>>151427135
oi jacketo ishoni konkai

>>151428661
>Jacket's motives don't really change that much from HM2
Except for the whole avenging beard, killing russians, and essentially forgetting about how he likes hurting other people themes
>There is reason to believe he was going for the rest of the russian mafia
He doesn't storm the police station to find information about the russian mafia. He storms it to get Richter, but hunts through the police files for info about the phone calls after he learns Richter's not the mastermind, and since the janitors were using the russian mafia as a front and they kept themselves hidden the only lead he could find from the police was the russian mafia
>Obviously Jacket was seeking revenge as well when he stormed the police station, and spares Richter when he richter mentions the 50 Blessings phone calls.
Except you make the chose to kill or spare Richter though I guess if you're wiling to dump so many other things from hm1 into the trash this can go in there too
>The Russo-American coalition, which IS mentioned in the secret ending (as well as beard's line about "i haven't felt this way since san francisco") means that the world as it is in HM2 is the same canon world in HM1
That is far less likely a reference to an alternate timeline Dennaton hadn't invented yet and more likely a reference to the fact that during the late 1980s the soviet union was collapsing and a truce forming between the US and Russia
Beard's reference to San Fran plus his entire overblown significance only make sense with the alternate timeline
These were referenced in the sequel to build off of the original story
>I don't think he stops hating russians at the end of HM1
Then why would he surrender himself to the police
>Richard's "never see the full picture" makes sense in this context as well
That line is a direct reference to part 5 where you play as Biker, so because Jacket did exactly what the janitors wanted they'd disappear and he'd never know who was sending the calls and got his gf killed

I have 7 detection rating with car/judge now and 9 with clarion/judge. All weapons silenced with Optical Illusions aced. What happened. I don't understand the fix they made. Why is my shit worse now

fucking dumb motherfuckers I swear why the fuck does everyone say cloacker kill yourselves dumbass motherfuckers god damn how can so many people be so retarded

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>>151441530

clk
cackler
CLOACKER
CLOCK
I FUKIN HATE CLOKERS
clicker
claocker

>>151439629
>1-2 dodge
>making a difference

>>151442048
haha how the fuck are cloakers real haha nigga like use the electrical knuckles haha like nigga just use a shotgun haha

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>>151442048
I fucking hate cockers

Reminder to kill the civs on ground floor of HM day 2 so retards don't tie them and cause them to be the tradeable civ

>>151450046
>Kill the civs that the cops will never path to because I'm too stupid to navigate the apartments.
k

>>151450046
they will basically never be found and released by police and will be very easy to get to since basically no cops spawn on the lower floors

>>151450516
>>151450795
>trusting a pub to remember the path

>>151450046
I always thought that the tradeable hostage is chosen based on the distance, so if you stand next to a tied civ when the trade is announced, it's guaranteed that this civ will become tradeable.

>2 months since last DLC
something really fishy is going on

Cloakers ignoring characters on swan song is stupid, literally why

>>151454183
There be a storm a jewin. A shekel storm.
>>151454320
Shut up Cloaker.

fuckin cloyka

>>151439513
please commit sudoku

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Hey, remember that part in the diamond trailer where hoxton fucked up the stealth and exhibited his akimbo assault rifles ? Yeah it was my favorite too.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eaK60YLCGU

>>151454183
>crimefest coming in a few weeks

you might wanna hold onto those words, anon

>>151457001
>Implying they won't cancel Crimefest this year.
You big bad mean goys got mad at us because you misunderstood our intentions with the Black Market update. Now we're too traumatized from your misdirected bullying to have another Crimefest.

>>151456830
Why did they change them?

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>>151454320
If you're enough of a shitter to get in swan song mode, you deserves to get this down counted for the custody, not to have a cloaker saving you from this.

Is modelswapping still possible? Any way to at least hide parts?

>>151450046
>can't dom your own hostage before assault ends

>>151452320
It is. So if you dom a cop before the assault ends, the game will pick the dom'd cop instead of the ground floor civ.

>>151456830
STEALTHFAGS BTFO

jesus fucking nigger I have 800 hours in this game and I get auto kicked from a death wish lobby get the fuck over yourselves ngbto fags you aren't good

>>151457001
isn't crimefest comes annually in October?

Why do people join a heist and ask stealth when I set the tactic to loud

>>151461129
Most people doesnt give a fuck if it says loud/stealth, literally who uses that shit m8

What is even shooting me on Goat Simulator when there are no cops around and it's not a sniper. I just get instantly shredded by nothing

>>151462502
BRONCOs

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>>151462502
protip on goat fucker simulator: you're never safe wherever you are, pic related and smg cops will find you and make sure you regret buying or unlocking this heist.

>>151462502
FORTY

TWO

BRONCOS

>>151460549
Yes, Crimefest is not the games anniversary it's the franchises.

Which I find weird because the franchise has two games, and one of them has had massively more time put into it, but whatever.

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>>151435142
>join a pub
>something feels off but I can't quite put my finger on it
>oh yes it's the FUCKING WEEB CONSTANTLY SCREAMING CROAKU TAYYSU CHIP CHUNG NIP PONG
this is not hoxtalicious

>>151465428
>hating on based Jiro
Jiro just wanted to be part of a crew again after getting backstabbed and being thrown in the clink for 900 years.

He is having the time of his life. Why must you fault a man for loving the heisting life, especially when it's the only thing he has since OVK will never help him find his son?

Yes he's a cash grab but that's not Jiro's fault. It's Almir's.

>>151465684
No amount of backstory or character exposition could ever make up for incessant moonrune chanting every time someone marks or kills a special

>>151465848
DARAAAAAAASU

IISHONI KOI YO

>>151465428
>>151435142
Isn't there a sticky on the Steam forums saying that discussion about mods that block / kick people for playing specific heisters is banned?

Bet you could get Ashley to ban you from the Steam group if a butthurt pub notices and reports you.

ngbto needs to be removed this mod is pure cancer

>>151466097
If that kind of bad mannering exists, then everyone using NGBTO would get booted because
>automatic kicking based on playtime
>automatic kicking based on perk decks
>automatic kicking based on private profiles
>automatic kicking based on deployables
Among other things.

>>151465428
That's the best part, and he's hardly weeb. He's like 60 and pretty ugly.

If you can't find the fun in just fucking screaming at people, I pity you.

>>151466690
Kicking based on heister choice is special because you're denying a person's right to RP as their chosen heister instead of just kicking them for lack of skill.

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>>151466097
>>151466874
Back when I played, the "disable Wick" mod just removed him from the pool of available heisters, so if a guy was set to Wick they'd just join as someone else
Is that not possible anymore?
>>151466874
I'm very sorry but there's nothing I can do to help them with their shit taste

>>151456203
Hotline Miami 1 is an objectively better game than Hotline Miami 2

>>151466961
I was paraphrasing Ashley's sticky.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/15/618458030656902228/

>>151467306
They can only ban you from the group, right?
Seems like they'd be doing me a favor in any case

>>151467306
"... and any other mods that will have some kind of influence on another player besides the one using it."
I fucking knew it. >>151466690

Is there a mod/cheat that allows me to unlock all masks/mask stuff? I just want really good fashion, I don't care about actually affecting gameplay.

>>151467780
Modify goonmod's gagecoins SHIT and make things cost 0 coins, bang, you can now unlock things at will, including masks, materials, patterns, and colors. So long as there's no achievement requirement or unmet DLC requirement.

>>151468015
Will download goonmod. Is there a tutorial up anywhere for doing the modification?

Also, I don't imagine there's anything similar for weapon skins is there? Seeing as they're actually trying to make money off that.

>>151454320
sometimes ill get downed on purpose to use swan song and just spam my shotty, then a cloaker will run up and instadown me before i can have fun

>>151468193
Follow goonmod download instructions and get that shit to function.
Enable Extended Inventory, Gage Coins, and Mod Shop in-game, close game.

Open .../GoonMod/mods/gage_coins.lua with your favorite piece of shit text editor, notepad++ recommended.
Line 60 has a value that's 1, change that to a high number. You can then complete a gage pack and get lots of coins and then it's pointless to change the costs. That's what I do.

Else.
Open .../GoonMod/mods/mod_shop.lua
Lines 27-33 refer to the cost of masks with Gage Coins and lines 24 and 25 is, I think, for the patterns, colors, and materials. Change those to 0.

Gagecoins and Modshop only effect masks, their parts, and weapon mods. Good for easing grinding.

>>151460134
btfo

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>>151468820
Thank you my friend. That's hugely helpful

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>>151466649
Led Combo needs to be removed, this weapon mod is pure cancer

>>151467629
You should make a thread asking to denounce it.

>>151468820
Is there a mod that allows you to use achievement masks without the achievements?

Also, shit, forgot about the update today. Guess I'll have to wait till the Goonmod guys get around to updating.

>>151466649
>t. II-67 Wick Akimbo player

>>151466649
>ngbto
I'm not hip with the jive slang, what does that mean?

>>151472514
Newbies Go Back To Overkill, it's an automatic hosting mod that, basically, automatically kicks people if they do not meet a buncha checks set by the host, like, concealment or deployables or if they're on a blacklist or if their profile is private etc. etc.

>>151471606
Fuck it. I'm diving straight into .lua's

Problem is, I can't seem to get my first one to work, and I'm following the instructions and links from the pastebin.

>>151473349
I think it has to do with my computer not being able to read .lua files. I can't edit it while it's a .lua.

>>151473747
.lua files are just source files so just tell Windows to open them up in Notepad or whatever editor you normally use for programming.

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>This fucking poster
Stop

>>151473936
Yeah I'm pretty dumb, but I'm actively trying to be not dumb.

I just don't know where I'm going wrong here.

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shit, this is not jimmy's idea of a good time!

>>151474079
when's hamtaro

>>151474112
never

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>just want to do overkill loud for a comfy time
>first time hosts telling people what to do when they don't know the heist
>kicks everyone
why can't I just have fun in this game

>>151474491
Shit isn't hard, just say who is crane, who is server, might be a team to find the right computer and who is the roof to open the door/hack it

>>151474652
but then I'd have to type in chat

>>151474786
And?

>>151474849
Maybe he isn't using a keyboard?

>>151474849
aaaaahhhh

>>151474491
Host
Your
Own
Game

Overkill fucked Angled Sights in this update
Just another reason to hope they all get raped by Ahmeds.

>>151474491
>Connection to the host has been lost.
That feeling when you're such a pussy you install a mod that hides the kick message.

>b-but the game is buggy, I didn't install anything
Yeah sure buddy.

>>151475382
I saw that comment about changing automated highlighting.

How did they break it?

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>>151474491
>Heather smg

you're a special kind of special

>>151475942
You can't switch from angled to scope while ADS'ing anymore. It's also finnicky to switch while not ADS'ing. I swear the sights themselves also suck now, I'm missing shots that I wouldn't have before.
As for automated highlighting, I don't know. I run HVT Aced (for damage) with a Theia and I didn't notice anything.

>>151475382
if you use your bipod during the inspection animation you may not be able to use it for the rest of the heist unless you try activating it again during the inspection animation

So running ICTV is still for noobs, right?

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>>151476619
>noobs

Are akimbos shit /pdg/?

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>>151350013
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Elephant In The Room (elephant_4_jobs)
- Hot Lava 2.0 (bob_8)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

/hmg/ pls go
i still haven't bought my jacket Jacket

>>151477682
noob

>>151478440
hmg is dead, I havent seen a general even when the level editor finally came out of beta.

Anyway, back on topic, I still dont feel comfortable playing by myself but how does one properly test a LOUD build? Considering a good team in DW will make it feel like OVK and a bad one can ruin even the best builds.

>>151478716
play VIP (very important pub) in an overkill heist
force that level 30 pub to victory making them do all the major objectives and not letting them go into custody

>>151478940
interesting, alright, I will try to carry. Thanks.

>>151478716
>and a bad one can ruin even the best builds.
git gud

>>151481428
bulldozer best girl

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>>151481459
>~uguu

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>>151481428
but i do

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So I haven't played in what feels like ages, and want to know how good are the akimbo smgs? The dual krinkov do an absurd amount of damage, but the ammo is lackluster. Are akimbo smgs viable for DW? And what should I pick up in the skills?

>>151483879
They have retarded high dps but terrible accuracy/ stability
it's basically like the famas on steroids

>>151483879
Whatever you do, take fully loaded aced and inspire. It can and will save your life.

>>151484964
I'm going for a dodge/inspire/akimbo smg build, so inspire is always in my build since none of my friends specced towwards it. So fully loaded aced is worth it for akimbo smgs? Does the walk-in closet not give you enough?

>>151485282
I would implore you to use the semi-auto trigger if you're using Krinkovs. You can treat them like really big Deagles with lots more ammo and base stats.
Akimbo Comp-5s are better if you plan on going full-auto. I only used them for my sentry build so I don't know if Fully Loaded is needed.

>>151486351
I want to like the krinkovs, but damn do they run out of ammo. The comp-5s really made a good impression on me. Is silent killer worth it? Increases the damage by a pretty good amount, plus I can pick up low blow as well. Is low blow worth it?

>>151486736
So I'll take that as a 'no' to silent killer and low blow

>>151483879
Akimbo on it's own is a huge ammo sink and with Krinkov's damage in full auto you'll get more wasted shots. It's viable but takes a lot of skill points and you'll chug through team's ammo pool very fast.

You'll probably want to pick skills that let you hip fire and reload while running, faster reload for smgs. I've been using low blow with this kind of build too but IIRC it was bugged or something, I don't think it works the way description says or maybe I don't understand it well.

>>151486659
If you have leftover points, go nuts. Just remember that Low Blow needs the low detection risk which means high concealment which means no heavy armor, and that also means high dodge which means Sneaky Bastard, and concealment means...
Fuck, you already know this shit. Go nuts. Just consider everything, If you're going full auto, it's better to use Surefire Ace and Body Expertise Ace.

>>151486901
>>151486947
more or less, this is what I have.

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mABDefl:eJkL:tKlR:ggiJKLnOPQr:::

>>151486972
Perks? Infamy? Armor?
Stable Shot Basic helps, Ace helps greatly too as long as you remember to sit still.

>>151486901
>>151486947
oh and I have max concealment, so that's not an issue. It is a dodge build too after all

>>151487085
Infamy 2, lbv and crook.

>>151486947
>Body Expertise
Honestly I think it's pretty useless with a dodge build because you can get close enough to tans to headshot them with hip fire and circle around shields

>>151487147
Where's the 2nd infamy point on? The cheaper tree requirements help.

>>151487236
oh sorry. It's enforcer

>>151456830
I know what happened. They fucked up the coding for the videos of both Hoxout Pro and the diamond. They keep fucking up, why are they so bad at everything?

>>151487347
Mmmrr...
It's good enough. If you hit Infamy 5, then there's room for improvement. You might consider removing drillskills for Transporter Ace, Shock and Awe Basic, and Iron Man Basic to increase your defense by a good sum.
Or you could consider dropping the LWBV for a Suit and use Rogue or Grinder and remove points in Armor for more damage.

>>151487671
okay, thanks anon

>AMCAR needs Level 4 to unlock
>RPK is unlocked at Level 0

Well fuck me silly