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/cfog/ - Classic Fallout/New Vegas General

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Mormons Edition

>Fallout 1 and 2
>Mods and Patches
http://pastebin.com/mtYCtDLV (embed)

>Fallout: New Vegas
>General Information, Recommendations, Run Ideas, etc:
http://pastebin.com/wVAqLvCD (embed)

>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository (Mods, Rips, etc):
http://pastebin.com/q5ryvSZc (embed)

>VGU (Rips):
http://pastebin.com/v1adFSwj (embed)
http://pastebin.com/S2eDehza (embed)

>Fallout
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38400/
>Fallout 2
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38410/
>Tactics
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38420/
>Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics Bundles
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/45615/
https://www.gog.com/game/fallout
>Fallout: New Vegas
http://store.steampowered.com/app/2028016/

>Old
>>150976593
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Classy thread
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Sorry about the (embed)s, made this in a hurry as the old thread is about to fall off page 10.
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3rd for ENCLAVE
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Why are there no classic looking mp5 mods for new vegas?
All the mp5s i can find are different versions but no classic look like in pic
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>>151249884
please don't devolve these threads into the typical shitty general stuff
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>>151250943
We've already had this general before F4

We'll devolve back into what we once were.
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>26/7/15

Wew lad. This past year has flown by.
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>>151249939
What mod is this that makes NPCs not look like potatoes?
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>>151251420

I don't know, I found it in another thread. The mod is supposedly on the gunetwork.
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>Courier acting like hot shit and as if he's the last of the old guard in the previous thread

You were a faggot before and you're a faggot again now, you faggot

>resident shitposter

No. You're just shit
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>>151249758
It's alright, anon. It's better than no thread.
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Best early to mid-game guns?
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>>151252574
Why is that a question, anon? You just posted the best one.
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>>151251608
Stay buttblasted.
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>>151249939
That looks twice as good as Fallout 4.
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>>151251420
>>151253824
Are you both memeing? He went from looking like his character to looking like generic murrican marine #63859

A w f u l

Even his arm pose looks like the shit I'd expect to see playing STALKER unarmed in third person
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>>151253978
He looks twice as realistic, high poly and well textured as anything in Fallout 4.
It makes Beth look incompetent that NV can look that good.
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>>151254156
Incompetent? Ha. Please, explain that to me when it's Beth that get any money from NV sales and Fallout looking good only makes Beth look good

Keep in mind, I ditched F4 eleven hours in and loathe Beth as a studio

But again, he could have all the polygons in the game shoved up his ass, but he still looks like a generic literally who and nought like he should do
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>>151254416
>a few random modders doing shit for free makes NV make fucking amazing and realistic
>Beth, a rich AAA team of many people can't make their much newer, more modern game look anywhere near that level of good
>this somehow doesnt make Beth look incompetent
Stop defending them, it's obvious you're bullshitting and just trying to defend them.
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>>151254156
>It makes Beth look incompetent that NV can look that good.
>with mods
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>>151254416
zenimax would be getting the money

but you're right, it looks like utter shit
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>Playing TTW
>Doing Moira's quest, last one is Robco
>4 Int and 14 base science, 20 due to books
>Lesko's Labcoat, Skill magazine, Berry Mentats
>50 Science and enough to make the check and get me Survival Guru and 6 DR in TTW
God I love temp buffs sometimes.
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>>151254513
You're a stick up your ass /v/-sort, aren't you, anon?

Yes, a few random modders who are still making New Vegas mods over half a decade later can make shit look "good" (looks like ill fitting no character trash) as opposed to teams with deadlines; if Obsidian were still in NV dev today, then I'm sure it would have had much more HD potato faces compared to what we've got. You spend your time wisely in dev and you don't just focus on one thing like mods tend to, i.e. Vurt's covers plant life and that's that; Hall of Face - faces; Textures Over Time's rock pack? Yep, it's rocks

And so on

Get a grip, Beth are fucking abysmal, but it's not even remotely due to some NV mod which adds in high poly sameface disorder
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>>151254772
So how is ttw doing?
Last time I played it it was still a little buggy
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>>151254962
I haven't updated or checked for updates since sometime last year so I don't really know, but it's definitely playable.
Only massive problem I've had is when the save file gets too large after completely finishing 3 and moving to NV and then crashes start to become way too common.

Also Rock-it launcher doesn't work, although again I haven't checked for updates.
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So lads, I just finished pretty much every quest in my most recent playthrough (first one since the game came out, 2nd one total), and I genuinely tried to learn about everyone and make pragmatic decisions (especially in the DLCs). Literally the only people I decided had to die were Elijah and Dean. I spared Ulysses, Möbius, the Think Tank, and I told Joshua not to kill General Gobbledegook. Heading back into the Mojave, I genuinely have no idea which faction to side with. After hearing about the Courier's past from Ulysees, it seems like, for redemption, the courier's true path is a neutral one. Am I correct in this assumption?
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>>151257339
The Courier is always labeled as a wanderer or a loner no matter what faction you choose anyway. So I think that's right.
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>>151252849
Magnum is better because it does more damage and takes less AP somehow, despite being a fucking revolver. Add the speedloader for 1 AP reloads (because somehow it's faster than changing a mag) and you're set.

And though I like Deagle A E S T H E T I C S, I'm not sure I like them in Fallout.
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>>151253978
>He went from looking like his character to looking like generic murrican marine #63859
You mean, just like it's supposed to be, because he is generic murican trooper?

>Even his arm pose looks like the shit I'd expect to see playing STALKER unarmed in third person
Come the fuck on. Miles ahead than the robotic shit vanilla is.
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>>151258895
In the game he's kind of a tired middle-aged guy stuck in a middle of nowhere doing boring routine shit. Also, he's gay.

In the mod, he's an AMERURRICA FUCK YEAH action movie hero ready to do a backflip and blast Legion scum with akimbo service rifles.

It's a good quality mod, visually, it just completely misinterprets the character, or the tone of the game. Like that awful Legion mod that gives every Legionnaire huge overdesigned armour because WOW AWESOME. You know, the one who gives Vulpes a bear skin. Or like the mods that make every female character a fapbait with anime hair.
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>>151249594
>seems like a very cliche comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVfWcP5fpS8
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>>151260141
4 really is a ripoff and bad copy of Borderlands and Call of Duty though.
Especially with that Legendary garbage.
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>Outfit Studio updated with Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas support

Time to steal that BoS Squire outfit from 4 and add a couple child BoS to Hidden Valley

D o p e
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>>151249594
There's no need to link to Steam store pages in an OP

What an absolutely fucking stupid addition to the thread opener
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>>151260141
I hate fo4 as much as the next guy, but this has to be one of the most retarded video I've seen
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I'm looking for a good texture replacer for power armor and such that can be used with TTW. Tried asking last thread just before it closed.
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>>151264569
Lot's of people use book of water, but some say it looks like ass.
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Enclave or House?
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>>151266132
Yes Man with Enclave
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>>151266132
Enclave wants to rule america, House wants to rule Vegas I don't see why they couldn't co-operate.
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>>151266250
That's cheating
>>151266327
>Implying they won't take the technology that makes him immortal
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Hunting shotgun or riot shotgun?
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>>151266580
No, you can be an independent state within America whose goal is to help America.

>>151266635
Riot
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>>151266635
Modded hunting shotgun
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>>151266132
Use House to take the Dam, once the Enclave is back in power they can just kill him.
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>>151266635
Hunting shotgun.
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>>151266705
>once the Enclave is back in power
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>>151269687
>>151266250
>>151266327
Never ever
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>>151269687
Delete this right now.
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>>151269687
>>151270143
Not like it's even something worth arguing over, the future of Fallout is in Bethesda's hands and they're just gonna do whatever they feel like regardless of past events.
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>>151269687
>BTFO on two coasts
>last member is a literal homo from the literal anti-Enclave organization
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>>151254520
tfw your fog picture from 2-3 years ago is still in use

thanks anon, that gave me a smile
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Are there any good mods to give more of an /x/ vibe to New Vegas? I've played through DUST but want something a little more /x/ and a little less grueling survival
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why does everyone like old world blues?

this "we want the bazinga audience" """""""""""""""""""humor""""""""""""" was just annoying (xd science!!1, lol penis jokes, haha robot bukkake).
a lot of events just made no sense (brain extraction that doesn't work by default but now does, simulations).
every time you finish an objective scorpions spawn somewhere near the exit

the only good thing was mobius in person (before it was just le mad scientist guy)


is it really just all normie casuals who want "exploration"?
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>>151275389
>an /x/ vibe
the only thing I can think of is that Obscurum Pandemic mod but i've never used it
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>>151275771
P R O T O N A X E

Plus the cybernetics were useful and the sink is a good player home.
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>>151275771
>all those new melee and unarmed weapons
>cybernetic implants to unJUST cazador damage
>the ulysses and christine holotapes
>that bloatfly

literally better than LR and HH
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>>151276105
sure, the sink gives some use to the previously trash items, and perks are very good, but at this point of the game my character was already maxed out and there wasn't really any challenge left.

and chance's knife is literally the best melee weapon in the game anyway
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Remember me /cfog/? No one else seems to remember me.
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>>151275793
Just watched some footage, some of those sounds are straight out of STALKER

Looks neat, will go well with spooky vegas radio
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>>151275771
Talking slutsuit
Appliance personalities
Giant mecha-death scorpion
Backstory for Mojave critters
Legendary bloatfly
Jetsons zanyscience amped up to the nth degree
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>>151276617
Nobody likes the Powder Gangers
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>>151275771
It's very story driven and if you don't like the "50s SCIENCE WORKS" theme, then you'll not enjoy it.

Gameplay it is the worst of all the DLCs quite frankly. Suffers badly from bullet sponge enemies and the exploration is weakened by how uninteresting the zone is. Plus, I really don't like the upgrades your character gets. Makes an already easy game easier.
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>>151276859
>Giant mecha-death scorpion
that shit didn't even shoot back
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>>151276617
Who?
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>>151276780
I liked this quest. It was one of the few good ones
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>>151276859
Talking armor a best, the stealth suit is a qt and the medic armor was alpha as fuck.
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>>151251420
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/54460/?

this I think
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>>151277983
FCO is definitely a big improvement over the base game but that webm is in a whole nother league

Are they really the same?
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>>151276859
>Backstory for Mojave critters
desu senpai i preferred "radiation made them" explaination to "a retard made them"
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So this is never going to stop?
If only there was a place to discuss fallout 4 without waifu shitters
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>>151254642
With Jews you lose
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>>151278595
>this is never going to stop?

It never stopped, this is actually what /fog/ was before F4. Current /fog/ is like 5% classic /fog/ with the rest split between /tesg/, /tesg/ waifufaggotry, and people who have never played a fallout game before 4
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>>151278467
The only one I remember it explaining were the nightstalkers, which makes sense because only a retard would put a snake and coyote together.
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>>151278595
What's there to discuss? How absolutely garbage it is?
No point, nobody who isn't a retarded shill would ever disagree about how garbage it is.
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>>151279230
Fallout 4 is a good FPS and Minecraft sequel tho
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>>151276780
Fallout 3's Dogmeat has the same audio as the radiated dogs in STALKER so I'm not surprised
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>>151279454
Yeah it's like they mixed the two best games in the world. Call of Duty and MInecraft!
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>>151279075

On all levels except physical, I am a ghoul.

[gets cancer]
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>>151279454
Its a shitty open world FPS compared to Far Cry and Call of Pripyat
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>>151249594
Can you autistic faggots stop splitting the generals up even more than they are? Why can't we just have one fallout thread for all the games?
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>>151279163
cazadores too i think
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>>151279075
Lies. /cfog/ has no ironic ugly tumblr haired ghoul waifuposters or niggerposters
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>>151279976
>Call of Pripyat
you mean call of chernobyl

because who the fuck would play that stuttering mess when COCk is available
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>>151280170
But that stutters even more
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>>151278356
>Sameface is definitely a big improvement

Noooope
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>>151280114
>implying Bama

But that's old /fog/ and not a Fallout 4 thing

We've had plenty of waifus and husbandos spammed during NV golden age, inc. my very own
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>>151280610
I legitimately can't think of any standout waifubait characters from New Vegas, maybe Cass or the Stealth Suit.
Its hard to imagine a lot of waifu spam coming out of New Vegas, I'd picture there being more husbando shit if anything.
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>>151281357

Vera before Dirty Dean corrupted her.

Ruby Red or whatever her name is.
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>>151281967
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>>151257339
well, Elijah has to die for you to continue and dean is only savable if you don't piss him off, of which the indication still wasn't clear to me.
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>>151280267
cock doesn't stutter at all
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>>151284917
The one in those screenshots looks like ass with the sharpness turned way too far up, but usually in-game they look pretty good.

It's hard to judge their quality from just looking at screenshots though. I thought they looked bad with excessive DoF effects but it's harder to notice when you're playing and the blur adjusts based on where you've got the crosshair pointed.
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Does anybody know a fix for perks not working correctly? Grunt perk seems to be bugged for me, removing and readding the perk with console commands doesn't seem to work
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>>151285292
Bugged in what way?
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>>151285534
It doesn't give a damage bonus, I have one save where the damage bonus does seem to work but as soon as i switch weapons it goes away. Also the perk also seems to work for the mysterious magnum until I switch weapons oddly enough
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>>151285249
Nah, these are just bad. It's Blackout Fag who came back.

He's been spamming for several years now, it's quite impressive he keeps it up. All over some random chat drama ages ago.
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>>151285792
Do you have a merged patch set up? Sometimes mods can conflict with each other and fuck up the weapon tables for perks.
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>>151286279
Nope I don't. I'll look into that. Thanks man
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>>151261427
Wait, what? How does it work with 3 and New Vegas? Do I use the FO4 or Skyrim version, and if I don't have those games installed, how do I install it then?
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>>151276437
I used to like OWB, but then I installed a mod that amped up the suvivalism and realism to the point I'd spend the majority of the time taking one step out, then running back in to heal myself. Now I'm a Lonesome Road supporter.
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I haven't been to /vg/ in a while, since when did you guys split?
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>>151289830
Pretty recently, /fog/ slowly went to shit right after FO4 came out and has recently gotten really, really bad. You literally couldn't talk about any of the /cfog/ games without getting shit on there so it really isn't "Fallout General" as much as just "Fallout 4" general.
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>>151289830
>>151290369
There was never any "split" /cfog/ came into existence for an entirely different reason.
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>>151290369
Eh, I kinda expected that since most of the /tesg/ creeps started posting in there.

It's because of /tesg/ that I turned into a quasi feminist.
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>Blackoutfag is back

Is this real life?
Go spam /fog/ and not /cfog/ you fucking nigger.
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>>151286135
I can't believe he is this dedicated to shitposting.
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>>151275771
I thought so too. Old World Blues was by far my least favorite.

Man, I'm starting to remember how the Legion fags were always debating NCR fags and shit. Wish I could go back in time...
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>>151282606
Hi BoF
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No talk about Fallout 1.5: Resurrection?

http://resurrection.cz/en/
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>>151280029
Fuck off. We want to talk about Fallout, /fog/ wants to talk about waifus
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>>151292193
How long has it fucking been, a two year hiatus? And he's still spamming us. Jesus christ.
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>>151292942
As long as I can have an excuse to play classic Fallout again, I'm game.
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Said it once but fell asleep. Is the curior meant to be neutral in FONV? After hearing his backstory from Elijah about how he essentially and acidently destroyed the last remnant of good American civilization, I feel like it's his duty to attempt to make Vegas great again. This would mean, ultimately, siding with Yes-Man right?
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>>151293221
Daily reminder this is /fog/.
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>>151293840
You're supposed to side with Caesar because it's the only one that makes sense.
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>>151280029
people who actually like to discuss the classic fallout games (1 2 New Vegas)
=/=
people who play fallout 4 for just to be faggots who want to suck on their shitty 3d waifu's dick
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>>151293840
Seems like you'd want House if you want Vegas to be great.
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>>151292942
What about it "anon." I played it.
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>>151292942
Oh wait, it's actually out?
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>>151292942
>>151294697
So this is a mod? Fucking hell how'd they do it. I tried making a mod for Fallout 1 and 2 and gave up because my mod wasn't working. I was following directions and using the tools everyone else was using, too.
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>>151294304

I would without hesitation, but it's undeniable that the Legion needs war to survive. Once they take the dam, they'll crush the NCR. Once the own all the west, they'll collapse. By that point, Caesar will be dead and Lanius, who is literally a savage, will head the Legion when they need someone more pragmatic.

>>151294543
On the other hand, House is an old world relic. He may seem pragmatic, but he hasn't ever really learned from the 2077. He seems to have humanities best interest in mind, but something is off
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>There are people
People?
>People who actually side with Yes Man
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Ok so I installed Obscurum Pandemic, are there "prestige" classes or something? Mad Bomber is my shit but those perks are locked to the "Saboteur" class that isn't available at default?
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There was never a man....
like my, Johnny....
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>>151266132
House with Enclave.
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New Vegas really makes you realize how lackluster 3 is in comparison. Why did the devs think it was a good idea to make 3 so linear with an only Brotherhood focus? How did the Brotherhood even have a grip there? The Enclave are literally the government and they have all of DC at their disposal, it should have been a stomp.
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>>151296389
>hating on Fallout 3 still
Stop
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>>151295434
>Johnny guitar
No get out
>>151296389
F3 is shit but stop talking about it
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>>151296389
Bethesda can't into writing.
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>>151296852

I'm not as I genuinely enjoyed the game. I still consider it a good game, but I believe it could have been a great game if it had more choices. Honestly, there haven't really been that many games that portray a large, post apocoliptic city as well as FO3. It simply lacked important decisions and force allied you with someone that you may not have wanted to ally with.
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>>151295385
And what's wrong with that?
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>>151295434
I got spurs that jingle jangle jingle
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>>151297180

Apocalyptic
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>>151297267
(Jingle,Jangle)
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>>151295012
It was a team of dudes and it took ten years.
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>>151297445
That's not surprising it took that long, modding Fallout 1 and 2 is a real fucking bitch. You think using the GECK is bad? Trying to make a mod for the first two games is a gazillion times worse.
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>>151290826
You mean because they objectify (videogame) women to such a substantial degree by creating their "perfect" or "ideal" woman that you came to realize that real women aren't really all bad, just kind of shit? Especially since they are people (though inherently flawed) and thus capable of being something other than some neckbeard's wish fulfillment?

I'll be honest, I used to be a 2D waifufag (with a big focus on humiliation, degradation, and objectification fetishes) until I found myself repulsed by the waifufags in a lot of these threads, because they seem to take it to a whole other level. There's only so many fucking times I can hear about whats-his-faces fat brown orc or how "Nora was made for dogcock" before it started to grate on my nerves.
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>>151298906
I've been aboard the censor Japanese degenerate trash bandwagon, and staying in safe for work boards for about a year now. I even stopped wanking it pretty much all together, I feel alot healthier and happier, dunno why I ever participated in that stuff to begin with.

I still have a cartoon wife though.
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>>151298906
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>>151290826
>Letting a bunch of repulsive waifufags influence your thinking
For your own sake never do this again
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God dammit, can't fucking wait for Fallout of Nevada to get translated.
http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_of_Nevada

I've heard really good things about it.
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>>151281357
I have autismally posted the same single screen of my PC about 200 times

My favourite is still tradercapwearinganon who had a qt PC holding binoculars in the screenshot; hell, pretty sure it's one of the saves I collected for a mod to add in everyone who had "known" characters in the general as roaming merc-type NPCs

This was all circa the Fallout 4 reveal, mind you
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>>151299994
Uh... Looking at it now from the outside, I realize perversion is a disease and is inherently wrong.
Not only is it a disease, but it's kind of an epidemic. Porn is pretty much taking over our society, more than alchohol and drugs.
People are being exposed to sex at such a young age it should be a crime. It's no wonder the internet is full of them.
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>>151275771
If the humor doesn't work for you, it just doesn't, however even then you should appreciate how it's contained to its own DLCs. Even then, it's better than FO2 humor because it kind of makes sense in context. Plus, it's pretty neat how that zany humor overlaps with disturbing and horrifying things that happened in the Big MT. First you notice the humor, then you notice the horrible experiments on US citizens and complete disregard for humanity the Think Tank exhibits. Then you want to blast their brains out.
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>>151300414
>No fun allowed: the person
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>>151280170
>because who the fuck would play that stuttering mess when COCk is available
I like CoCk, but as of now it's empty as fuck, if you don't want to spend your time only on exploration the only thing you have are shallow radiant quests. Plus CoP has a large catalog of mods not compatible with CoC. Also
>CoP
>suttering mess
You are thinking of SoC
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>>151300887
It's not fun when your kid grows up to be an autistic virgin addicted to porn.
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>>151300414
I see what you're saying
>>151300887
Porn is fine for adults but kinds that tend to find adult material early tend to be little unlikeable shits
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>>151301638
that's why you don't have kids you dolt

anyway that's off-topic
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>>151300931
Who made this?
>>151301789
Kids*
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>>151301832
I don't, but 4chan has about 400,000 of em browsing daily. You know how many people get banned on the "not safe for work" posts alone?
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>>151301983
Dunno, I saved this a while ago from a /sg/ thread.
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What's you're favorite Easter egg? Mines is the delusional car salesman.
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>>151301638
>>151301789

Holy shit is that what's wrong with me?

Well, at least I'm not a virgin.

Anymore.

Haven't had sex in five years though. Shit's expensive.
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>>1513022507
LOL
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>>151301983
I added the text and symbol for the Stalker General when me and Unfucker were trying to Unfuck Misery.
The original was just something I found on /sg/ though
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>>151301638
Literally nothing wrong with being a virgin, especially with how many modern western women are shit now - definately not wife material. And many people do not have the means or money to start some epic quest across the country or even globe to actually find someone worth spending the rest of their lives with. You want less people looking at porn? Then make people actually be worth more then that, because as it stands right now it's actually better to just bust a nut over some whore then it is to waste time and money on someone who more then likely is both a shitty partner and will leave you sooner or later.
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>>151303223
Calm down. How did it go from video games to this off topic shit?
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>>151303223
I got some good news for you, brah.
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why are you chuklefucks discussing /r9k/ shit

isn't this supposed to be the actually good Fallout general

I don't even care about sex or relationships as long as it's not in the context of post-nuclear retrofuturistic Americana
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>>151303223
I didn't mean to say there was something wrong with being a virgin, I am a christian so I applaud people who have the strength to be abstinent, but you're not being abstinent when you look at porn willingly, in fact, it's a worse sin than having sex out of wedlock
.
Also your bitter mentality against women is so obviously influenced from porn and oversexualization of female characters. These things have warped your mind into idealizing your future girlfriend and wife, which is something no one should ever do.

>>151303880
There's nothing wrong with a little off topic conversation.
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>>151303849
>Tape over ghoul nipples
For what fucking purpose? I don't think vanilla ghouls even have them.
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>>151304094
>I am a christian
>There's nothing wrong with a little off topic conversation.
you are so going to burn in hell forever for this
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>>151304094
>There's nothing wrong with a little off topic conversation.
>>>/r9k/
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>>151304206
Bruh she got the tape over her bra "laughing crying emoji"
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>>151304206
It's a fetish thing, I think. She's a dominatrix.
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>>151304094
>but you're not being abstinent when you look at porn willingly
Show me exactly where in the Bible it says to not look at porn. Remember that porn has been around as long as humans have to, so you can't cop out and say that it was never mentioned because it wasn't popular or known.
>Also your bitter mentality against women
Right, because noticing how shit a lot of women are, if not most, suddenly equates to me hating all females and being bitter against them.
>oversexualization of female characters
>HURR STOP SEXYUALIZING PIXELS ON A SCREEN
Nigguh are you fucking serious.
>These things have warped your mind into idealizing your future girlfriend and wife, which is something no one should ever do
Why, because it won't prepare you for the bitter dissapointment of reality? And you were the one chastising me for talking about how a lot of modern females are pretty shitty. And I'm not idealizing anything. You acting like I am, really shows what you think about women as well, if all I'm talking about is finding someone to simply spend the rest of your life with.
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>>151304094
>2016

>Still a christian.
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>>151304809
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>>151303849
Did you
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>>151305304
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why are you spamming ENB screenshots, they're not even interesting (except for this one. it is kind of funny: >>151305304), they're just "I played New Vegas with ENBs and mods", certainly never seen that again

I can understand if the thread would need a bump, but it doesn't
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Why are sawed-off shotguns so fucking shit in New Vegas?

Is there any way to build a character to make them effective?
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>>151304809
Just wanna say your posting style is so rediculous, I completely forgot about it while I was posting on spin off boards for a while.
I know what I said, no need to meme text me everything bruh.

Anyway, the sin I was implying was masturbation when you're watching porn, what else could you be doing looking at porn?
And porn encases all types of sins, sex is supposed to be beautiful, and porn corrupts the fuck out of it.

And you hating women at all is bad, there's nothing okay with that.

Those "pixels on a screen" have grown to become quite more than that as of the last ten years, and besides, people are becoming "anime sexual" nowadays, you can sexualize a stick figure my friend, it's the same thing.

And you do idealize women since you just used the term "wife material", I can only imagine what kind of impossible standards you have.

Your cynical outlook on women and life is not good, consider looking upon yourself and returning to the path of righteousness.
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>>151305690
I like taking screenshots of dead people in funny poses
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>>151305771
>take a gun
>saw off most of the barrels
>saw off the stock
Though to be fair, it's not like Fallout is realistic weapons-wise. I never tried NV sawn-offs, isn't the unique one at least decent with the perks and some custom ammo?
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>>151305896
This whole discussion is "rediculous".
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>>151304842
Go blow yourself up already, Abdul.
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>>151306205
No it isn't actually, I would go as far as to say oversexualization of female characters, and pornography has contributed to most of the corruption in males today. People have been fighting to ban porn, and the UN has tried to ban forms of Japanese porn that has become so out of control.

I only hope Hilary gets elected because she knows how bad porn and sexual video games are.
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>>151306178
Even if you saw the stock and barrels off of a shotgun it still has an effective range past five feet.

Have you ever shot one or are you just armchairing?
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>>151306574
>Have you ever shot one
Nah, don't live in freedomland. Are NV sawn-offs really not effective "past five feet"?
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>>151305771

>Why are sawed-off shotguns so fucking shit in New Vegas?

It's actually really fucking good.

The sawed-off shotgun is second only to the anti-materiel rifle in damage as far as non-unique conventional weapons go, it is an improved hold-out weapon, and has multiple useful ammo types.

To get the most out of it though you have to get up close and personal, as it has the highest spread of any weapon in the game.
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>>151306846
Uh no, most of the time the shit doesn't even work, most sawn off shotguns I pick up go right into the barter pile.
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>>151306982

Not my fault you are using it wrong.
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>>151307085
In my 10 or so years playing Fallout 3 and New Vegas, I have used the Sawn Off more than enough times to know that you're full of shit.
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>>151307186

I'm glad you recognize you have been wrong for 10 or so years of your life.
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>>151306530
What is this "corruption" you are speaking of today? I need to get a real sense of what you actually mean by such a statement before I can debunk your arguments.

Also, the UN attempt at banning lolicon in japan was fucking stupid.
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>>151307506
Loli is literally pedophile apologist crap, there is literally no debating that. You are sexually attracted to children, even if it's fake, you're a pedophile, Loli should be banned, and they aren't gonna stop till it is.

Well to sum it up, this whole website. The rampant bitterness towards women, racism, and self hate has become a culture unironically. So much so, that kids have gone out and shot up their schools.
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>>151307919
Jesus, those colors look.. wrong.
Also what the FUCK is happening in this general?
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What would be the best way to RP as some obnoxious Deus Vulting LARPer?
I figured sucking up to the BoS, Enclave and Legion.
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>>151307540
>that """"Cass""""

Disgusting
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>>151308508
>obnoxious Deus Vulting LARPer

Unquestionably Legion, good sir.
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>>151307991

>Well to sum it up, this whole website.
Yeah a "relatively" small website, which is known for housing anti-social people. A real good representation of the population at large.
(Which is one of the reasons I like this place.)

>The rampant bitterness towards women, racism, and self hate has become a culture unironically.
Racism and bitterness towards women are on the decline, you moron. Maybe you should check your facts before you spout nonsense.
Source: http://pwq.sagepub.com/content/21/1/35.abstract

>So much so, that kids have gone out and shot up their schools.
School shootings is a relatively new phenomena, but you do realize that the homicide rate has declined drastically, right? It’s same thing with serial killers in the 1960s-1980s or so, it will go away with time, and blaming porn of all things for school shootings is quite a ridiculous conclusion.

Now, about lolicon, let me ask you this. Who does it hurt? Not the kids because there are none involved. If so, why should it banned then? Because it doesn’t conform to your sensibilities? That’s probably the most stupid reason to ban something. You do realize that, right?


Most of my sources come from "The Better Angels of our Nature", I won't bother looking up all of the statistics and post them here. You can probably find a free pdf on the web somewhere.
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>>151309973
>4chan
>known for housing anti-social people
/r9k/ doesn't represent 4chan. /b/ includes social people who shitpost here because they're bored.
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>>151310447
I used the wrong word there, but in general 4chan doesn't contain the most "normal" of people, and if you claim otherwise you should probably fuck off to another site.

Are you the same nutcrack I was arguing with, if that's the case then that's a pretty shitty counter-argument.
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>>151310717
You don't have to be bitter m8. I'm not the anon you're replying to.

Normal people have been flooding this site for some time since it became very popular, /b/ is the prime example of it. It probably won't take long for them to start invading the other boards, even /r9k/ is full of women starving for attention. The "not-so-normal" people still are a majority here I guess.
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>>151309973
That's why I said "to sum it up". Places like Tumblr, Reddit, and Deviantart have bad eggs like on here too, and pretty much the rest of the internet. Racism, Sexism, and whatever else isn't exclusive to 4chan, I didn't think I'd have to tell you that.

>check your facts
I just argued with a person who hates women by chance, just because they are supposedly "on the decline" doesn't mean it's still rampant.

You keep saying things are "declining" but they still exist, and at large, I don't have to look up the rate at which people kill themselves and kill others every year to know it's a high number, neither do you.

As for loli, I seriously can't believe you're defending it, it's probably because you're a pedophile yourself or a pedophile sympathizer, but that's besides the point.
Loli is making pedophiles, people who should be put in phyche wards and prisons, comfortable with their disease, meaning they will never get help, and eventually commit their evil deads on real children.
Gotta say, it's really sad that I have to tell you why loli is bad. Next you'll have me tell you drugs and alchohol kill people.

Yes, our world has become significantly better since the old days of slavery and world wars, but we still have BIG issues, you act like just because they're not as bad as they were before, they're no longer an issue. You basically have this mentality that everything is okay in relative terms, that's pretty much how someone who has never been dealt adversity in their life.
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>>151311735
I wholeheartedly agree.
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>>151311735
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>>151311021
A shame that most boards have gone down the shitter these last couple of years. I used to like this place a lot more before.
Whenever I see people greentext outside of 4chan it pisses me off, not because of the fact that they "memetext" outside of 4chan, but because it attracts people from the outside.

>>151311735
Oh, boy here we go.

>That's why I said "to sum it up". Places like Tumblr, Reddit, and Deviantart have bad eggs like on here too, and pretty much the rest of the internet. Racism, Sexism, and whatever else isn't exclusive to 4chan, I didn't think I'd have to tell you that.
No, but they still don't represent the general population, you dimwit.

>I just argued with a person who hates women by chance, just because they are supposedly "on the decline" doesn't mean it's still rampant. You keep saying things are "declining" but they still exist, and at large, I don't have to look up the rate at which people kill themselves and kill others every year to know it's a high number, neither do you.

You keep talking about people being corrupted by porn and as if racism, sexism and murder is a direct result of that, which pretty funny considering that these things were much more widespread in a more "puritan" times.

Your whole argument about lolicon is based on one assumption; that it somehow results people in becoming child molesters. This statement is completely unsupported, and you should back it up, instead of spouting nonsense.

Also, when did I ever imply that there weren’t any issues any more, I just proved that the whole idea that porn somehow results in these things is stupid. You have not brought up a single fact to prove your statements, instead you have only spouted nonsense over and over again without backing it up in the least.
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>This discussion

Who /fireaxe/ here? Knock-Knock's color a shit.
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Did somebody say axe?
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>>151313708
this has gone beyond redemption, let's just wait until the storm leaves
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>blackout spamming still

Oh fuck. How can I be reminiscing over something so mind numbing

>>151300283
Post ass or feet
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ENB FAGS GET OUT
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what is ENB?
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>>151316306
You can get that answer with two minutes of google searching.
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I liked these threads better when they were on /v/.

It's only been a couple of days and it's already gone to shit.

Mods are cucks.
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>>151316003
This is part of our circle of life, friend

>fags

Whilst Courier is an absolute twat, too, this is not plural
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>>151316003
You realize its one guy, and he's been spamming his shitty screenshots for years right?

You're in it for the long haul.
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>>151316702
fuck, I'm new to these threads so I didn't realize that.

God help us all.
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>>151316448
But it's no longer some /v/ thread, it's a reincarnation of pre-F4 /fog/

And we'd all got a bit, well not bored, but yh, close to over the years, so it's just quickly turning back into the stale general, warts and all
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>>151316647
Doesn't all that sharpness hurt your eyes?

I mean the color correction looks good but everything else looks like this weird combination of oversharpening with a blur effect, like someone's attempt on Deviantart to make a screenshot look more "gritty".

Does this ENB have any anti-aliasing at all?
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>>151316448
/v/ threads often went to shit tbqh, it doesn't really make a difference. Unlike here /v/ is a central for shills, shitposting normies and other sperging faggots that often try to derail the thread.
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>making an NV-only general without expecting blackout fag
my sides
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>>151317268
>asking a known spammer's bot questions

K
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>>151317569
>Don't remember seeing him before.
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>>151317569
then you're new, he's been doing it for years
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>>151317569
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New Reno didn't fit.
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>>151317704
>>151317734
I didn't really lurk /vg/ back then. So he's just dumping shitty Blackout screenshots? For what purpose? Just to fill the thread and hit the bump limit?
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>>151317734
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>>151317998
yes.
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>>151317980
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>>151317998
It's actually quite comforting

I haven't experienced this for months after it being a near constant things for years

It's nice to be home
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>>151318068
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>>151317980
New Reno is pretty much Junktown, only bigger, which makes sense considering how the civilization advanced. It's not just a city of casinos, they traded in drugs, whores, booze, other stuff, remember that they try to get control of Redding mines.

Some parts of it make less sense, like huge guards with Tommyguns (Mafia!), but that's FO2. Overall, there are much worse offenders in FO2, really.
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What the fuck. He just posts screenshot after screenshot. Why? For what fucking purpose? There's no discussion about ENBs or anything. He's just spamming his shit. Then you have those other retards who are talking about god knows what. What the everloving fuck is happening here.
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>>151318450
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>>151318641
You should be glad he's keeping this thread alive.
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>>151318641
Welcome to 4chan
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>>151318739
this thread has been doing fine without him
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>>151318739
The general was doing fine before he started spamming his pictures.
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>>151318641
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>>151317347
>it's okay, we don't have to worry about normies derailing the thread here
>guy literally calling out porn for being degenerate and saying it should be banned

kek
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>>151318450
Don't encourage autism.
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>>151318872
>>151318901
It seems like he's promoting discussion of New Vegas, like you guys wanted
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>>151319020
>>guy literally calling out porn for being degenerate and saying it should be banned
That's not a normie point of view, really.
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>>151319304
How is spamming pictures "promoting discussion"? This helps fucking nothing.
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>>151319524
He's posting New Vegas screenshots and you're standing by arguing about it while he takes over your thread.
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>>151319020
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>>151318641
This is the /fog/ you missed out on by never visiting before Fallout 4 launched

I guess it's marmite like generals in general
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>>151319304
he's not saying anything, just posting pictures for posting sake. Have some real topic for discussion:

Are there any parts of the Mojave you often overlook? For me it's the North Vegas square, it only has one quest and it's one of the dullest out there.
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>>151318496
San Francisco was probably the worst city in Fallout 2. Even though I did find the Scientology commentary a bit funny, I still felt that it was out of place, not to mention the retarded Shi.

I just replayed fallout 2 recently and I was kind of disappointed really. While Fallout 1 felt really well made and everything felt fitting, it wasn't the same in Fallout 2.
It seemed like a lot of stuff in fallout 2 felt out of place, a lot of assets from fallout 1 was reused without much thought put into it, like the big screen int the hubologists base with the same animation from the cathedral in Fallout 1 and the blades billboard in Klamath, just to mention a few.
Overall fallout 2 just felt much less thought out than the first one, which isn’t surprising considering that Tim Cain left halfway through the production and that the production time was much less.
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>>151319906
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>>151320045
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>>151320092
Fuck off you autist. Discuss the games or leave. Stop spamming.
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>>151320045
>San Francisco was probably the worst city in Fallout 2.
Yeah, I agree. Broken Hills is another candidate - while I like Marcus, he's one of my favorite Fallout characters, and the idea of people and mutants living together is cool, the quests there are either disappointing or stupid. Though getting raped by a super mutant is funny, I guess. But killing a bunch of 20-HP ants isn't.

And the thing with FO2 was that FO1 was a side B-project that suddenly resonated very well with people, so they wanted to make a sequel ASAP. It was rushed, and it shows.

Still love New Reno. For me, it just works.
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>>151320321
Vault City is my favorite town in FO2. I love everything about it. To the strange, sterile vibe it gives off to the music. It's fucking great.
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>>151320025
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>>151320291
It's his bot, you mong fuck /v/tard

>>151320045
Shi are dope, but less than well realised

They develop rad reducing plant life that enthralls the city in its splendor

That's dope
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>>151320321
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>>151320443
VC is neat.

>>151320505
They're stereotypical Chinese people that have kung fu fights on the streets (because that's what Chinese do) and are ruled by an Emperor (because that's how Chinese are) who is a computer (because Fallout). There could've been some fun stuff there about a bunch of commie sailors getting washed out on a beach of a country they were in war with and adapting their beliefs etc. to that, but nope, let's reference Big Trouble in Little China instead (which is an amazing movie, don't get me wrong).
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>>151320505
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>>151320826
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>>151321060
would be funnier if it linked to my post about Marcus
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>>151319957
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>>151320826
Hey, I agree that Shi are hokey as fuck, but I played 2 as my introduction to the series as a kid, so have a soft spot for all that cheese (though, NV nails it with the addition of Wild Wasteland)

But a Chinese sub crew taking a notable American city for their own and using their sub's computer as a guiding "ruler"? That's good shit
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>>151302250
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>>151321305
>but I played 2 as my introduction to the series as a kid
FO2 was my first Fallout as well, first RPG, actually. I was like 15 or so and my friend sold it to me as "you can wield a huge-ass minigun and perforate lots of people". But looking back at it - it's not a perfect game, and the tone is often not serious enough for me.

Good thing Vegas was made.
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>>151320321
Some of the quests in Broken Hills also felt a bit too preachy.

The thing with New Reno is that despite the silliness of the gangster aesthetic, (which did not make any sense in a post-war world) it was still a really well done location with probably some of the best quests in Fallout 2.
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>>151321305
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>>151321502
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>>151316520
Hey!
I'm not a twat...
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>>151321484
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>>151321484
Yh, I've played 2 through maybe fifteen times, but then I've got 1.8k hours on New Vegas and countless "playthroughs"

But I'm glad 2 is what 2 is; I'm equally glad NV is what it is and that it isn't just 2-2 in feeling
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>>151321898
Faggot
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Anyone know what texture pack/ENB this spammer guy is using?
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>>151322717
Kys
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>>151322717
I think there's different ones in his different autistic screenshots, but I can't tell.
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>>151322717
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>>151322717
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>>151322485
Hahaa... ah.

Literally made my evening, you daft cunt~
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>>151322717
He uses Zenith ENB, his own shitty creation. Bloom and sharpening everywhere!
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Since when have we started having these on /vg/? Did mods REEE us out? Explains why I didn't see a single NV thread on /v/ the last days.
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>>151323374
Thanks, anon. I'll be sure to steer clear of it. It looks like fucking garbage.
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>>151323482
They moved a NV thread here, so it's very much implied that /cfog/ is now a thing.
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>>151323482
Mods moved it here.
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>>151323374
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>>151323482
>Since when have we started having these on /vg/?
About last week I think
>Did mods REEE us out?
Yes.
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>>151323605
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>>151323605
/v/ mods may have moved a recurrent thread here, but it's rapidly turning into the shitshow that was our old general, with the familiar faces showing up bit by bit

Whatever threads you guys were having, they sure aren't the general that's back now
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>>151323829
It was better in the beginning. A lot better. Fucking hell, even the last thread was better than this shitshow. It's all gone to hell today.
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>>151251236
what area/mod is that from?
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>>151323597
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>>151323953
It went to shit when Blackoutfag found us and started spamming his shit screenshots.
Just like good old 2014 /fog/.
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>>151323829
NV threads were shitstorms in general
>faggots spering about /vg/
>shills
>shitposters
>b8posters
The one thing /v/ didn't have is Blackoutfag.

>>151323961
The Pitt DLC
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>>151323953
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>>151324151
So, why does he do it? Is it autism?
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>>151324308
Yes, it literally is autism.
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>>151324171
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>>151324354
He has dedication though. He bothered taking a shitload of screens just to dump them here as spam. And he waited for us to return there.
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>>151324354
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>>151324509
Doesn't make him any less annoying or autistic.
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>>151305771
That's a pretty nice gun. Does anyone know of a mod that adds that to new vegas.
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>>151323961
It's The Pitt played in Tale of Two Wastelands (+ mods)
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>>151324832
What enjoyment do you get out of this?
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>>151324981
Don't bother.
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>>151324981
>trying to communicate with him
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>>151324171
Oh yeah. filename messed me up.
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>>151325025
Hey man these screenshots look really good, what ENB is this?
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>>151325591
Nice joke, anon.
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Why haven't a lot of religions survived the nuclear apocalypse?
>Inb4 shitstorm
Try not to respond to bait
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>>151326125
Mormonism would have played a role in van buren, and Christianity is implied in fallout 2. Religions exists in the Fallout world, but it's rarely mentioned, weird considering that people would probably be more religious in an post-apocalyptic world.
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>>151326125
Religions have survived the nuclear apocalypse. I'm sure people still believe in jesus and stuff, and we clearly see the Church of LDS has survived, and tribes have created their own religions too.
Also don't tread on the bear.
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>>151326125
>Why haven't a lot of religions survived the nuclear apocalypse?
Dunno, never really thought about it. I know there was going to be lots of Mormon-related things in Van Buren. But that never got finished. And only some of that made it into FNV.
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>>151326437
>Don't tread on the bear
How can Leigon fags even complete
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>>151326404
Yeah. I was wondering because Christiananity is a pretty big part of American culture
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>>151327801
Aren't BoS christians? Or am I remembering things wrong?
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>>151327801
You could argue that the reason that religion is rare is because of the alternative timeline. But the real reason behind why religion is almost never mentioned in Fallout is probably because religion is a sensitive subject, and they didn't want to touch it as a result.
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>>151328102
I don't think so. I think they're have a cult like relationship with the codex
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>>151328282
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>>151328102
No, the BoS are totally non religious that we know of.

>>151327801
Father Clifford in Rivet city was a christian, and we know there is a christian monastery called The Abbey of the Road somewhere is northern New York State that sends out missionaries across the wastes to spread the word of god and recover religious artifacts.
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>>151328460
Fallout 3 isn't lore.
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>>151328548
>being this buttdevistated
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>>151328548
>obsidrone in denial
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What ENB enhances New Vegas' look without dramatically trying to change the graphics?

I'm really just looking for one that adds stuff like shadows and a subtle DoF, but they all seem to alter the colors and lighting like crazy and it can make NPC's look weird.
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>>151328598
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>>151328784
Just don't use what Blackoutfag does and you'll be fine.
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>>151328675
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>>151317419
>NV-only general
But that's wrong.
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>>151328784
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>>151328598
>>151328675

Bethesda lore is shit, it's pretty clear that fallout to them is POWER ARMOR N' BIG GUNS.

Let these quotes demonstrate:

"Fantasy, for us, is a knight on horseback running around and killing things." ~ Todd Howard

"Tim Cain: My idea is explore more of the world and more of the ethics of a postnuclear world, not to make a better plasma gun."
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>>151329289
3 is canon, it's mentioned enough times in NV. It's objectively canon.
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>>151329289
>"Tim Cain: My idea is explore more of the world and more of the ethics of a postnuclear world, not to make a better plasma gun."
Which is funny because every single Fallout game has done just that, on top of making a better plasma gun.

>Bethesda lore is shit
again
>being this buttdevistated
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>>151329016
Uh, yeah, thanks, but I was looking for a more specific response.

I don't hate NV's graphics, I just think it can look a little flat without ENB due to a lack of shadows. So I'm really after a very subtle enhancement.
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>>151329289
The plasma gun quote tickles me to no end these days

F4 is all about making a better plasma gun and that's the extent of its puddle sized depth

Sorry to digress
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>>151329451
It's canon, but it's still clear that they don't have a clue about what they are doing in the slightest.

Fallout 2 had stupid locations, but holy shit does fallout 3 even have more more idiotic locations.

>a town run by fucking kids, and no mention of how the fuck they reproduce

>let's build a town around a fucking nuclear bomb, because why the fuck not

Megaton deserves to be blown to smithereens, due to how fucking stupid the people who live there are.
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>>151329629
It's a good quote. Tim Cain is an alright guy in my book.
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>>151329934
>and no mention of how the fuck they reproduce
Well anon, there is this thing called sex.

Also, we know from the Greydtich quest that they take in orphans
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>>151329945
He seems very humble about his success, which I really like. A shame that he doesn't give out that many interviews.
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>>151329934
This, pretty much. You'd have to be beyond delusional to believe Bethesda's lore is noncanon. But you'd have to be equally retarded to think it's any good.
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>>151330060
I always just killed the kids due to how stupid the concept was in the first place. You can't defend how stupid stupid the whole place was.
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>>151330060
>Well anon, there is this thing called sex.
Don't go making shit up, now.
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>>151330310
>You can't defend how stupid stupid the whole place was.
>Implying it matters
>Implying putting in a Mad Max reference in a series heavily based off of Mad Max is a bad thing
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>>151328172
It's funny how JES is atheist and very liberal, but treats religion with respect in Honest Hearts.
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>>151329934
They had pretty much idea of what they were doing, the issue being that Emil's writing is dominated by the rule of cool that states that stuff must be designed to look cool no matter how much sense it makes, which is why you see Megaton and Lamplight. When I read some of the initial concepts of 3 it seems that Emil is more or less of a good writer but was pushed to shit writing

Although people need to stop thinking Black Isle wrote the game from an intellectual PoV. Excluding stuff like factions and a few characters/places, Fallout never took itself seriously until NV came out.
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>>151328784
What's that on the right?
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>>151330976
some shitty game no one played
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>>151330976
a fan film
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>>151331063
Which one?

I liked Lanius, btw.
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>>151330848
>That trigger discipline

REEEEEEEEE
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>>151330848
>Although people need to stop thinking Black Isle wrote the game from an intellectual PoV. Excluding stuff like factions and a few characters/places, Fallout never took itself seriously until NV came out.
^this

Or have people forgotten basically everything that was Fallout 2?
>Reno
>broken hills
>San Fran(Hubologists especially)

Not to mention Fallout Tactics and its edgy tryhard late 80's early 90's scifi designs.
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>>151330673
It would be okay as just a reference and not part of the main quest
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>>151330673
It does fucking matter you dimwit, I don't expect my fantasy universe to be completely realistic but at least it should make sense and never cross into the idiotic territory, which fallout 3 does several times.
I really appreciate it when creators put a lot of thought into their game universes.
Let’s compare megaton to Shady Sands:
It's clear where Shady Sands get their food from (it’s their local farm, where they also have brahmins), what their troubles (radscorpions which are killing their herds and the local raiders) and their place in grander scheme of things (a little town with not much contact with the outside).

Megaton by is a town built around a bomb because it's cool. It's never explained who they're trading with (it's probably the 3 man caravan that once in a whole comes through, which is also fucking stupid considering how dangerous the wasteland is). It's never explained where they get their food from (It's probably that one brahmin in the middle of town, which doesn't make sense since it doesn't have anything to eat at all).
Shady Sands is a pretty standard town in Fallout 1, but it makes sense, which automatically makes it a much more interesting location than any in Fallout 3

>>151330848
>Although people need to stop thinking Black Isle wrote the game from an intellectual PoV. Excluding stuff like factions and a few characters/places, Fallout never took itself seriously until NV came out.

Have you even played the first game?
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>>151331976
What are
>Bright Followers
>Boomers
>The Three Families
>Kings
All of which you basically have to deal with as part of NV's MQ
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>>151330128
>humble about his success

Let's look at what he's done.
>Worked on Fallout 1
>Maybe had a hand in VtMB: Bloodlines

Both really good games, but not necessarily a long running career of hits.
Don't get me wrong, guy is awesome, but not really all too well known out of hardcore design nerd circles.
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>>151330810
He knows what he's doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccxFxuwqflY
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>>151331476
Everyone got pissed of because 2 and tactics were like that remember
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>>151332123
Did you forget Troika? Or Arcanum for that matter?
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>>151332115
>>Boomers
>>The Three Families
>>Kings
These are fine. Bright Followers and their quest are dumb, but I guess you have to have a faction of fanatics in any FO game.

>>151332127
He's a good man.
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>>151332268
He founded Troika, but from my knowledge he wasn't on the Arcanum team.

Even if he was, that makes three titles.
Still better, but not a whole lot.

Granted, I know other actual industry figure heads with fewer gems under their belt, so I guess it's decent.

Man, the industry is fucked up ain't it?
Auteur designers don't seem to have very long careers.
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>>151330810
>Atheist
don't insult the man like that. He just doesn't believe in God.
I don't believe in God, but "Ooooh, you believe in jesus, let me tell you how stupid you are and make straw men" autists are insufferable.
JE Sawyer's just a decent dude, like us.
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>>151332103
I did. Aliens were canon already in the first game.
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>>151332103
>Megaton by is a town built around a bomb because it's cool
Actually they built it around the bomb because the crater in the ground gave them protection from sandstorm and kept them out of sight of the raiders. Also, when they actually built the town they needed the Children of Atom's help to do so, and the CoA wanted it built around the bomb they worshiped, which basically meant everyone was forced to comply.

> It's never explained who they're trading with
Except it is, we are told several times that most of the towns trade scrap metal to Rivet city in exchange for fresh produce grown in their hydroponics lab.

> It's never explained where they get their food from
Except it is
A. They trade scavenged scrap for fresh food from Rivet city
B. They trade with the numerous hunters of the wasteland who hunt and collect all sorts of animal meats such as mirelurk meat, yao guai meat, mole rat meat and dog meat
C. They trade with all the scavengers we see out in the wasteland for various other items they need

did you even play Fallout 3 m8?
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>>151332115
>Bright followers
Optional
>Boomers
They were vault dwellers with a big armory that found an airbase to live in. What's the problem here?
>Three families
They live in the ruins of vegas and house had them dress up to remind him more of Las Vegas
>The Kings
A group of tribals found a school dedicated to Elvis.
The reason why people find three stupid is that it never explains how things work. NV does. Get it now?
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>>151332123
>>Worked on Fallout 1
He literally created Fallout as a setting and concept. Worked alone on it for a pretty long time before getting a team.

>>151332520
That's what atheists are, people who don't believe in God. Some of them are obnoxious about it, sure, but that doesn't change the definition of the word.
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>>151332538
>Aliens were canon
Do you know what an Easter egg is?
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I was just browsing the Fallout wiki and came across how Bethesda completely owns the Fallout trademark and everything related to it, then I thought about how they added a voiced PC, pre-war Jet, immortal Mountain Dew, and settlement building to the franchise.
I know this isn't /tesg/, but I shudder to think what they'll do to their own IP like TES.
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>>151332538
>Aliens were canon already in the first game.
Random encounter easter eggs are not canon.
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>>151332683
Not him but

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Psychic_nullifier_(Fallout)
>Fallout Official Survival Guide p.128: "Psychic Nullifier: A strange device, possibly the product of an alien technology. It blocks telepathic or psychic commands."
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>>151332794
Next I bet you're going to tell me Cafe of Broken dream isn't canon, faggot.
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>>151332645
I know, but it just irks me how numales have turned "atheist" into a derogatory term in my mind.
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>>151332729
Voiced protag in TESVI
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>>151332829
Are you sure alien didn't mean forigen in this context?
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>>151332683
>>151332794
>m-muh easter egg!
Never gets old
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>>151332127
What a cutie.
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>>151332986
They were quite clear they meant AYYYYSSSS
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>>151332860
It's not and neither is the Federation shuttle (though hypos sure are handy in the endgame).

>>151332870
Using fresh memes like "numale" doesn't irk you at all?
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>>151333003
>u-ur wrong!
Never gets old
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>>151333003
FO1/FO2 special encounters were never canon, though. They were just j o k e s.
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>>151333164
see >>151332829
Aliens are canon since the first game, these aren't easter eggs.
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>>151333316
Random encounters aren't that's for sure. But the alien nullifier isn't a EE, and neither is Skynet. The whole "easter egg" argument is used by people who can't admit that Bethesda isn't the one pushing aliens into canon.
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>>151332554
It's been a while, so I've forgotten most of that stuff. But even with that mentioned, there's still plenty of stuff in fallout 3 which is fucking stupid like little lamplight and the supermutants.
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>>151333842
Ahhh, I got it then. I dunno. I don't really mind that kind of shit in the originals since they keep it so discreet. Y'know, just keeping aliens to EEs and descriptions. I like it that way, that's just me, though.
Mothership Zeta is when it goes too far.
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>>151333941
>and the supermutants.
I don't really see whats so bad about the super mutants

>Vault-Tec was working with The Enclave to build the Vault program.
>Enclave was using the vaults to test various things on people.
>Enclave had this super cewl super solider serium.
>Implying they wouldn't put it in a nuclear proof bunker to make sure it survived in case West-Tek or Mariposa got hit.
>Super Mutants turn out differently them on the west coast due to a combination or different strains, different delivery method, madness resulting from that delivery method, and no Master like entity to control who gets dipped to ensure quality control.

It was actually a fairly neat way to get something from the old games into the new games without having to directly use that same thing from the old games.
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>>151334181
>Mothership Zeta is when it goes too far.
True. The worst thing they did is that one holotape that implies aliens started the 2077 war. Whoever had that idea in mind should be punched.
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>>151334506
>a holotape made by an unreliable narrator that was cut content is their worst sin
Okay.
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>>151334786
^this,

The holotape is effectively cut content as the human voice was never recorded, and doesn't exist in the game files at all.

The tape, as it appears in-game, is just aliens making noises.
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>>151335038
>aliens making noises
fuck you, I imagined a tape full of AYY LMAO AYY LMAO
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>>151334786
>>151335038
The transcript does appear if you turn on the subtitles, so the implication itself is not really 'cut'.
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>>151335284
>The transcript does appear if you turn on the subtitles
And?

There's actually several instances of subtitles existing for cut lines in vanilla fallout 3 and the DLC, doesn't mean its not still cut content.

Its like the whole
>Montana Bunker
Thing. Lyons never talks about it in-game, ever, so its cut content.
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So what's a good backstory to a low int 10 STR -female- Courier joining the Legion?

Before you start in on me, I know why they SHOULDN'T.

I just want to know what possible scenarios would allow for it.
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>>151335731
She was born a freakishly strong whore who wants to get dominated and wants to become a Leigon cum dump
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>>151335731
>female
Good for doing legion dirty work.
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>>151335668
But unlike the cut lines the holotape IS accessible without console commands or mods as well as the transcript, so anyone can see its content.

But the point wasn't if it was cut or not. It was that remotely thinking that adding in a holotape implying the aliens started the war completely defeats the point of the series and I'm glad this abomination was never recorded.
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>>151335731
You don't join Legion in New Vegas. You work for the Legion, more precisely, for Caesar. And Caesar isn't actually a sexist, he's just a horrifyingly practical man. It's practical to keep women as breeding slaves for the Legion because it allows the Legion to have a steady supply of fresh meat to throw at its enemies. It's not practical to dismiss a powerful and resourceful mercenary just because she's a women.
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>>151334338
The fact that they can sustain themselves. Is it ever explained how they manage to feed themselves? I know that they feed on humans, but how is that nearly enough to feed a whole population of supermutants that has no leadership at all? It's been a while, so i could be misremembering things.

Honestly, that which pisses me the most off about Bethesda take on the fallout universe is how they shoehorn the BoS, the Enclave and the supermutants in the Fallout 3, when they could have done their own thing with it.

They instead make half-assed reason as to why the BoS, Enclave and supermutants are there, they should have instead done their own thing, made their own factions with their own motivations and ideologies. It seems way too coincidental that all of these major factions are at the same place at the same time, because in Bethesda logic that's what the fans want.

In general the writing in Fallout 3 is piss poor, with the BoS being the good guys to an ridiculous degree, hell tactics did that too, but it did it much more realistically, with the Brotherhood being much more pragmatic about it. The ridiculously cheap karma system. Horribly written dialogue (which is common with Bethesda games). The cheap ending, I could go on.

Remember especially the talk with President Eden being really stupid with high speech, you literally tell him he's a computer and therefore not fit to rule, which makes him blow up the base. In Fallout 1 it made a lot of sense for the master to blow himself up, but it seemed that Bethesda just copied the ending without realizing why the ending to Fallout 1 was so good.
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>>151336058
Its no more defeating then the non-cut content in Fallout 2 that implies bored AIs started the great war
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>>151336621
>They instead make half-assed reason as to why the BoS, Enclave and supermutants are there, they should have instead done their own thing, made their own factions with their own motivations and ideologies.
I think this upsets my the most. In Fallout 2, the BoS is still a thing, but they're so small compared to Fallout 1. In FO1, they were in this massive underground bunker. You could tell they were incredibly smart and well organized. They knew what they were doing, but they stayed mostly to themselves, underground. In FO2, they've had a massive fall from grace. You find a few different bunkers with one person guarding each. That's it. They're stretched thin, and they know if they bring attention to themselves, the Enclave will wipe them from the wasteland.
But in FO3 it's just
>BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL ARE THE SUPER GOOD GUYS AND THEY'RE GONNA HELP YOU TAKE DOWN THOSE MEAN ENCLAVE BADDIES!!!
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>>151336621
>The fact that they can sustain themselves. Is it ever explained how they manage to feed themselves?
They eat basically everything, super mutants can be found with all kinds of food in their inventories.

>Honestly, that which pisses me the most off about Bethesda take on the fallout universe is how they shoehorn the BoS, the Enclave and the supermutants in the Fallout 3, when they could have done their own thing with it.
Fallout 3 was deliberately designed to be a soft-reboot of the series since Fallout had been effectively dead for a decade, if not more, by the time Fallout 3 came out.

It was meant to have all these things because it was designed as refresher since they knew most people weren't going to go back and replay Fallout 1/2/Tactics, so they needed a way to show the things from those games.

Also, not having those things would mean it wasn't a Fallout game. It would be like making a Megaman game and going
>Ok so
>No megaman
>No Dr Light/Wiley
>No robot master
>No zero
>No Mavericks
OK so what makes it a megaman game at this point?
>Well its a stage select side scroll were you fight bosses at the end and take their powers
Ok, but what makes it a MEGAMAN game instead of a generic side scroller?
>UHHHH!
Exactly.

>with the BoS being the good guys to an ridiculous degree
Except they aren't. They are terribly racist to non-feral ghouls, Lyons will threaten to have you killed and your body strung up from the purifier if you talk back to him, and bigsby implies that Lyons only wants the purifier for a PR boost.

Not to mention everyone, including Lyon's own daughter Sarah, and his best friend Rothchild, both disagree with him, and make it clear they dislike wastelanders, and what Lyons is doing, and are only following him out of the respect they have for him.

They are honestly pretty fucking shady.

>Remember especially the talk with President Eden
Thats a gross oversimplification, you actually put him in a paradox.
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>>151337583
>Soft reboot
They could have just made it a reboot of that was the case. They just used a lot of shit from the first two games including plot because they're lazy
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>>151337583
>not having those things would mean it wasn't a Fallout game
You could do it tastefully. You know, like the game after Fallout 3 did.
>Super mutants are present, but they're not a focus at all because of the events in FO1
>Enclave is present but blink and you'll miss it because of the events in FO2
>NCR is present, but is logically developed into pretty much a new faction with its own internal conflicts
Etc.
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>>151337810
>Super mutants are present, but they're not a focus at all because of the events in FO1
>Enclave is present but blink and you'll miss it because of the events in FO2
Both of which were massive wastes of possible character develop driven by Avellone and Sawyer nihilism and attempts to destroy everything in the west.

They turned what should have been interesting parts of their game into "why are they even here" side notes, and thats painfully sad to see a developer apparently hate so much of what made their franchise something other then just another generic post-apocalyptic game.
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>tfw if you kill mr house, you will never use his intelligence or technology to make a better vegas, and there is no way to convince him to do something about it like you did with Lanius and Gen. Oliver at Hoover Dam or a way to convince him to use HELIOS One or spare the Mojave BoS
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>>151338323
It's because Sawyer and even Avellone have the decency to reference the past events of their games instead of making them the main focus of the new game and moving on to something new.
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>>151338323
Ur a dum-dum. Without Master, there's no reason to have tons of SMs roaming West. Enclave was FUCKING NUKED in FO2, attempting to being them back is an insult to people who played 2 and an insult to the Enclave, turning them into Saturday Morning villains. I'll get you next time, Chosen One! Muhahaha! Not to mention Enclave isn't that great of a faction in the first place.

Maybe you should stick to fucking Megaman, seems like those games have better stories for you.
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>>151338570
>It's because Sawyer and even Avellone have the decency to reference the past events of their games instead of making them the main focus of the new game
Except the NCR is the biggest focus of NV.
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>>151337810
Funny thing is, F3 did offer to examples of Bethesda giving a toss and not over using or misusing "standard Fallout elements". That being two of it's DLC, The Pitt and Point Lookout.

>emphasis on exploration
>character driven like a good rpg should be
>moral choices
>familiar elements are present, but not in anyway way where there presence and actions are totally against what has been established e.g Ashur and the Point Lookout tribals
>on the flipside to the above point, The Pitt even makes reference to the lack of Super Mutants in the area, as the player can ask what sort of mutant problems the slaves are facing. This shows that elements which wouldn't make sense in that area are left absent.
>interesting locations and continue the trend of "post POST apocalypse", as societies are rebuilding

Granted some of those points are half assed at best. The choice given in The Pitt maybe morally gray, but is so lackluster you might as well not even bother.
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So what's a better gameplay mod for NV?

Vicious Wastes or JSawyer Ultimate Edition?

I've been using Sawyer's Mod for ages and I'm ready to try something a little different, and both of these look good but are plainly incompatible.
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>>151338639
>Saturday Morning villains
Actually Fallout 3 made them LESS of that DESU.

In Fallout 2 they wanted to kill basically all life on earth because
>MUH PURITY!

In Fallout 3, Autumn, and everyone else in the Enclave, betray Eden, and abandoned his ass, the moment he tries the same dumb shit.

All autumn and the Enclave want to do is use the purifier to untie the wasteland behind them so they can rebuild America.

they are significantly less mustache twirling saturday morning cartoon villains then they were in Fallout 2.
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>>151338361
You did this
>>151338648
NCR along with other factions new and old. It's nice to see the new ones and the old ones and how they've changed. And it actually makes sense that they're there because it's right next door to the other games. They could have done something new on the eastcoast because it's on the other side of the continent but they needed that brand recognition.
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>>151338648
To be fair, the NCR were built up to be the successor state. The Master and the Enclave are all but dead, whereas there is no definite conclusion to how the NCR end up after Fallout 2; moreover, it's clearly shown they are progressing nicely. With NV, a location close to what would be NCR territory, it would make sense their presence would be greater than the Master's or the Enclave's.
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>>151338968
> They could have done something new on the eastcoast because it's on the other side of the continent but they needed that brand recognition.
More like they needed to continue elements of the past games so they could set up their own stuff.

Like we see in DLC like The Pitt, or in Fallout 4 with The Institute, Minutemen, and Railroad.

Also, I would bet my bottom dollar had they NOT had those things y'all would be complaining that its not even Fallout because none of these things show up.

Like those Prey fags are doing since the new Prey has basically nothing to do with the old one.
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>>151338873
Good point.

>>151338897
I meant a villain that appears in every iteration of the series to be thwarted by protagonists. But yeah, FO3 had kind of a right idea about making them to be just remnants of old evil Enclave trying to grab some land for themselves. But it's sloppily executed and they force you against them by Autumn killing your dad or whatever happens. Eh.
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>>151338875
Is there anyway (GECK included) for me to change how needs work in JSawyer? I don't want the sleep/hunger/thirst needs to trigger the debuff at 400, I want it like the vanilla game and have it at 200. I barely have to fulfill any need in my game because of it, which renders hardcore pointless for me.
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>>151339246
Still no reason for them to be in DC though. It's implied in NV that the northwest is barren enough for the almost dead Great Khans to "carve out a mighty empire", which begs the question why the Enclave didn't just go to somewhere empty like Wyoming?
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>>151339592
Raven Rock, I guess.
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>>151339237
>Continue elements
Power armor, explosives, and whacky things do not entirely make up fallout. It doesn't need pre existing factions for no reason.
>I bet my bottom dollar y'all would be complaining that it's not fallout
People were already complaining that it was becoming a shooter. My problem is they didn't attempt to make something original and made factions and stuff from previous games look stupid and act stupid. I'm okay with bethesda making their own thing as long as it stays away from the west coast. I think things like the institute are fucking stupid but I don't really care because it doesn't affect the games that I like and it's their own thing.
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>>151337583
>>Also, not having those things would mean it wasn't a Fallout game. It would be like making a Megaman game and going
>>Ok so
>>No megaman
>>No Dr Light/Wiley
>>No robot master
>>No zero
>>No Mavericks
>OK so what makes it a megaman game at this point?
>>Well its a stage select side scroll were you fight bosses at the end and take their powers
>Ok, but what makes it a MEGAMAN game instead of a generic side scroller?
>>UHHHH!
>Exactly.

That's where you getting it wrong, fallout is NOT about the Bos, it's Not about the supermutants or the Enclave for that matter.

Like >>151337810 says, they could have easily made up new faction, while referencing the older ones once or twice without much trouble. Fact is if you look at New Vegas then you'll see that none of the major factions are from the first fallout game and that's absolutely fine. Fallout is an progressing story where nations rise and fall, and new ones take their places. It's kind of like history if you look at it that way.

Comparing it to megaman is silly considering that it has an established main character and villain that appear in a huge number of games.
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>>151339724
^This.

Its explicitly stated that after the Oil Rig got nuked Eden was able to make contact with most of the Enclave remnants, and ordered them to come to D.C. , using chain of command fuckery to get them to come, where he had a fully functional base, as well as an intact ZAX super computer, and manufacturing capabilities for PA, plasma weaponry, and vertibirds, for them to use.

OFc, he never told them he was an AI, autumn's father only discovered that when he got there, and it was kept hidden from everyone else, except his son, who took over for him after he passed.
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>>151340079
> you'll see that none of the major factions are from the first fallout game
What is the NCR for 500
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>>151340132
Still seems like a shitty excuse to include them.
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>>151340079
>>151340268
>none of the major factions are from the first fallout game and that's absolutely fine
Well, NCR is kind of Shady Sands, but it's not Shady Sands, it's evolved over the course of the games into something very different, but it still references Shady Sands. It's nice without being repetition.

>>151340132
Never liked the idea that Enclave has tons of assets. It was a conspiracy of the elite, the wealthiest and the most powerful who knew the apocalypse is coming and didn't care to stop it.
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>>151339428
Yeah it's pretty simple actually, you just need to open FNVEdit and open up the Dehydration Stage, Hunger Stage and Sleep Deprivation Stage categories. Each has five entries that represent each of the thresholds.
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>>151339980
This. Even if you are going to include past elements, there better be a damn good reason.

Fallout 3/4 do not present good reasons.
>so this vault which had a fuck load of FEV vats in storage, has also created a race near identical to the work a genius squandered his whole life over, and even then he never perfected it.

Let's take Vault 87 for example. It apparently got directly hit with a bomb which is why the main entrance is an 8000 rads per second death trap. Why couldn't the "big bad mutants" be ghouls, and they are dragging people off into the vault via the door so they can be subjected to radiation and also become ghouls?
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>>151340268
First game, you moron. They are only mentioned briefly in one of the endings.
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>>151340268
They're a growing nation and NV takes place close enough to them to he justifiable. And it adds in a lot of new factions too.
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>>151340385
>Never liked the idea that Enclave has tons of assets.
They had bases all over pre-war America, the Fallout Bible goes even further saying they had hidden bases all over the WORLD.

We know they had the oil rig, Navarro, another base somewhere were Doc Henry got reassigned, several refueling stations as far inland as the Vegas region at least.

Also, Raven Rock wasn't an Enclave asset, it was a pre-war bunker built for generic continuity of government purposes. It wasn't ever really designed FOR The Enclave specifically.
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>>151340649
>the Fallout Bible goes even further saying they had hidden bases all over the WORLD.
That's stupid and so is Fallout Bible.
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>>151340462
>t apparently got directly hit with a bomb
It didn't, in fact, the only thing to suggest this was a cut terminal entry that never appears in-game.

>and they are dragging people off into the vault via the door so they can be subjected to radiation and also become ghouls?
Because ghoulism is the result of a genetic X-factor that no one really knows the specifics of.

It would be a totally pointless crap shoot if they turned ghoul or not.
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>>151340826
Is there a reason as to why Moira turned into a ghoul then, or is a case of bad writing once again?
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>>151341091
>Is there a reason as to why Moira turned into a ghoul then
Because she had the genetic x factor apparently.
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>>151340649
Fair enough but I would have prefers it they were hidden merely observing the wasteland to see if it's safe to come out. And maybe there could have been a reasonable large power seeing how it's been three hundred years. Then you could choose between wiping the enclave out or letting them rise to take over the wasteland. And give them a justifiable reason for doing so and giving both sides enough characters and reasons why they should be in charge so it would be difficult to make a choice.
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>>151341091
because if he didn't you'd miss on a quest

and we can't have that now can we
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>>151340419
Holy shit man thank you for this! I thought it was a mod conflicting with it, but no it just seems JSawyer mod has fucked up need stages. I wouldn't mind so much if the meter adjusted to the mod's values.
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What is the best ending for New Vegas and its DLCs?
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>>151341232
>but I would have prefers it they were hidden merely observing the wasteland to see if it's safe to come out
That is what they were doing for the decades after the destruction of the Oil Rig, all the way until James try to restart the purifier.

>And maybe there could have been a reasonable large power seeing how it's been three hundred years.
200

>Then you could choose between wiping the enclave out or letting them rise to take over the wasteland.
The enclave has no reason to want your help

> And give them a justifiable reason for doing so
There is no justification for conquest beyond wanting more power, which is what The Enclave wanted.
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>>151341447
NCR high speech help everyone wasteland messiah.
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>>151341447
You know what must be done.
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>>151341680
You mean Letting go?
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Any idea how to fix this? It's the NVInteriors Room with a View mod and I'm guessing the exterior view doesn't work too well with Realistic Wasteland Lighting because it's blindingly bright at day and has the disgusting vanilla lighting at night.
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>>151341447
Best for Vegas itself? Toss up between NCR and House. Best for the games point of view is up to you.

>Dead Money
Everyone lives; Elijah locked in with his gold, which you leave all but one bar behind. You need a souvenir after all. Dog is kill; leaving God to be at peace.
>Honest Hearts
Help Graham and murder the White Legs. This one really is a no brainer, as helping Daniel creates a power gap. Even if the White Legs are dead, the 80s become the next big bad tribe and you're back to square one. Even worse, the 80s could join the Legion.
>Old World Blues
Install everything into the Sink. Keep Mobius alive, as does Think Tank, but leave your brain inside the jar and have bad karma. The smug bastard deserved it.
>Lonesome Road
Kill Ulysses but don't blow up any faction.
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>>151341595
I know it's retarded and it's just something I came up with on the fly but I just want them to do something different that isn't good vs evil
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>>151342103
>not killing Dean
>not merging Dog and God
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>>151342271
Except the BoS weren't good, and the Enclave weren't evil, both wanted the exact same thing, and both were terribly biased and bigoted to the people of the wasteland and genetic divergents like ghouls and super mutants.
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>>151341262
That's a fucking point isn't it.
Does megaton only have a single fucking quest?
And moriarty's money grab and the old nigger's scrap metal don't count.
Fuck Megaton is a waste of space.
Moira never even has anything good to sell anyway.
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>>151342367
>BoS weren't good
They're clearly the goody two shoes faction
>And the Enclave weren't evil
They're clearly the Literaly Hitler faction
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>>151342367
In fallout 3? The BoS definitely were good no matter how you put it and the Enclave were definitely evil no matter how you put it.

Both were poorly written factions in fallout 3.
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>>151342683
>They're clearly the goody two shoes faction
Yeah
>shoots at non-feral ghouls
>hates wastelanders
>uses them as meat shields
>hijacks a civilian project to use at their own personal PR tool
>refuses to give an non-ferals any of the clean water.

>They're clearly the Literaly Hitler faction
>does exactly the same shit as Lyons
>wants the same goal
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>>151342586
You can convince Gob to go to the ghoul city, no idea what he does once he gets there, and of course there is Lucian LaBurke's spontaneous blow up Megaton quest.

You also have the Arefu delivery which leads to the "not vampires but really we are" quest.
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Should i get a mod to get rid of the collar in Dead Money?
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>>151343038
Depends. Do you play with modded weapons/armor which are totally overpowered? If so, then yes! You are already playing easy mode.
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>>151342847
>Shoot at non feral ghouls
When
>use wastelanders a meat shields
>Hate's wastelanders
Where does this happen
>Hijacks Civilian project
They defended it from supermutants that we're going to break down the door what the fuck are you talking about. They don't even use it.
>Refuses to give non Gerald water
When?
>Enclave
>Let's poison the water supply
>Not cartoon levels of evil
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>>151343038
is it that hard to turn off and avoid speakers?
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>>151343134
I'm playing with Project Nevada weapons. Does that count?
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>>151343190
Ghoul*
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>>151342937
>and of course there is Lucian LaBurke's spontaneous blow up Megaton quest.
That's a tenpenny tower quest really.
>You also have the Arefu delivery which leads to the "not vampires but really we are" quest.
Sorry I was meaning quests that would be lost if megaton was blown up.
Arefu still stays as a thing but it's harder to complete if you don't have Lucy's letter.
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>>151342847
>>shoots at non-feral ghouls
Remember that

>>hates wastelanders
Outcast does, where does the actual BoS do that?
>uses them as meat shields
When?
>hijacks a civilian project to use at their own personal PR tool
Yet they are clearly portrayed in a positive light despite this, doesn't matter what your interpretation is.

>refuses to give an non-ferals any of the clean water.
Again they do have something against ghouls.

They are obviously portrayed as the good guys in Fallout 3, and the ghoul-thing seems like an attempt at making them deeper than they are.
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>>151343190
>>Shoot at non feral ghouls
>When
Underworld Willow or whoever ghoul mentions it.
>Refuse to give water to ghouls
I think they let them buy it, I don't remember the broken steel water shit since it has been a while.
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I'm really liking Millenia's gun mod.
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>>151343358
Then no, not really. You only have "quests" like "decorate your megaton pad" and "collect all the vault boy toys".

Biggest wasted opportunity with Megaton; the old guy who loves the Enclave. Literally nothing is made of this guy, before, during and even after the Enclave have turned up.
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>>151343647
mask where
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>>151343647
>Player character
Ow the edge
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>>151343190
>When
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Winthrop.txt
>Really, the Brotherhood of Steel is the only thing we have to worry about... so long as we don't leave Underworld, that is.
> Bastards. They don't seem to be able to tell us apart from the Super Mutants. Or, maybe they just don't care. They see us and shoot on sight.

>Where does this happen
Did you miss the entire premise of the BoS in Fallout 3? where they are recruiting wastelanders en mass and sending them into the meat grinder to battle super mutants, giving them a massive attrition rate?

> They don't even use it.
Have you not played Broken Steel? The boS quite literally have effectively forced the Rivet city scientists into their order and have the whole place at gunpoint.

>When?
Again... did you play Broken Steel?
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/DLC03Griffon.txt
>You can get Aqua Pura for free. Why pay for yours?
>The Brotherhood doesn't deliver to Underworld

>Enclave
>Let's poison the water supply
Except they didn't, only Eden wanted to do that, Autumn even talked Eden down from it at least once

Jesus Christ, typical of NV fags, complain about shit they apparently never played
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>>151343647
Go to /fog/ with your shit tier deviantart waifu
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>>151343934
Wow I didn't realize we were going to just be a bunch of elitist pricks in this general.
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>>151343798
It's in the COTW mod only sadly.

>>151343818
Thanks, anon if it makes me even edgier I've been listening to Linkin Park while playing as well.
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>>151344093
Do you even know where we are?
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>>151343868
>Did you miss the entire premise of 3
No. But nobody ever mentions this or criticizes Lyons for this. I don't think it was an intentional flaw.
>Did you play broken steel
No it was fucking boring
>Except they didn't only Eden wanted to do that
So what the fuck is autumn doing at the water purifier In the first place? What the fuck was his plan?
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>>151343684
>he old guy who loves the Enclave. Literally nothing is made of this guy, before, during and even after the Enclave have turned up.
that's the problem I have with F3
Sure the DC exploration is fucking dank as hell but the rest of the wasteland is dull with the occasional interesting thing.
But the god damn NPCs are mostly worthless.
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>>151344263
>It's in the COTW mod only sadly.
Well it's not exactly hard to grab something from one mod and make it its own thing.
Would it need resizing or anything?
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>>151343868
>>Where does this happen
>Did you miss the entire premise of the BoS in Fallout 3? where they are recruiting wastelanders en mass and sending them into the meat grinder to battle super mutants, giving them a massive attrition rate?

How exactly does that make in any way evil? It's pretty clear that the reason they are filling their ranks with wastelanders is because of their low numbers, not that there was any ill will against the wastelanders.
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>>151344306'
>No. But nobody ever mentions this or criticizes Lyons for this.
Several people do, in fact, Sarah even mentions it herself.

>What the fuck was his plan?
Play the game and actually listen to what he says dumbass.

He says he wants to use the purifier to help the people of the wasteland, and to basically refound America, with The Enclave at the helm.
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>>151342008
I've had brightness like that in the Mormon Fort a couple times, moving RWL to the bottom of my load order fixes it, although it does take a second, if you make a save there and load it should start like that then go to normal brightness over the course of a few seconds.
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>>151344998
So they actually blame anyone for it or go
>It really sucks that all these are dying
And if it is the case, then why don't more people treat it like a big fucking deal that they're being lead by someone who will lead them into a grinder?
>Inb4 outcasts
Then why aren't there more outcasts if this is a problem. This sounds like a big fucking deal to me.
>He says he wants to use the water purifier to help the wasteland
1. The enclave have always been incredibly xenophobic and call outsider mutie scum due to decades of propaganda and upbringing

2. So he just wanted a fucking enclave sticker on it? Why didn't he try to make amends with a large and powerful group if they were after the same thing? Why does BoS need it in the first place? They already have clean water.
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>>151346058
>And if it is the case, then why don't more people treat it like a big fucking deal that they're being lead by someone who will lead them into a grinder?
Because the people of the wasteland are largely hopeless and the BoS are the only ones who have managed to ring the super mutant threat to something of a minor annoyance.

>Then why aren't there more outcasts if this is a problem.
Because the BoS are a dogmatic cult who are brainwashed to loyally follower their elder no matter what, which is why most of the people who do follow Lyons follow him despite expressing clear dislike of his actions.

>1. The enclave have always been incredibly xenophobic and call outsider mutie scum due to decades of propaganda and upbringing
In fo2 sure.

>2. So he just wanted a fucking enclave sticker on it?

>Why didn't he try to make amends with a large and powerful group if they were after the same thing?

>Why does BoS need it in the first place? They already have clean water.
Basically. He wanted The Enclave to be the first to turn it on so they could use it as a PR tool and go "hey look, WE brought fresh water to this terrible wastleand, come join us!"

Because the BoS would never accept it. both sides are too weary of each other from Fallout 2 to ever accept that. On top of that, BOTH sides wanted the purifier for the same reason, to use as a PR tool to get people to join thier own dying order. If the BoS get it, the Enclave cant use it for that purpose and vice versa.

For the reasons stated above. The BoS wanted to use it as a PR tool to get more wastelanders to join his dying order so he can save it from the slow death its facing.
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Something I don't quite understand about F3's story.
>Hey we should remove the radiation from the water and then package it to give to the locals.
...okay but it's still salt water.
What the shit?
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>>151346939
Pop is just salt water. Think of it as "free pop".
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>>151346939
>...okay but it's still salt water.
I think you are confused, the Potomac river is a fresh water river.
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>>151343647
What the fuck is going on with that arm, it's fucking skeletal at one end and then suddenly muscular on the other.
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>>151347190
It's an estuary which means it's a mix of both, it's not something you can drink without filtering.
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>>151347392
>it's not something you can drink without filtering.
You mean like the filter on the purifier?
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>>151346735
>BoS is a dogmatic cult
Not in 3. They broke away from the codex in 3.
>In fo2 sure
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't a lot of the ones in 3 from 2. Shouldn't that mean they should be similar personality wise. Even if they came from their own base they should have the same propaganda filed upbringing.
>PR tool
It would probably be better for both groups to advertise that they're the few people with guns, water and shelter in the wasteland, meaning that neither of them really need it. Enclave and according to you BoS don't care about wastelanders so why wouldn't it be profitable to keep them desperate and have everyone see them as a becon of hope
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>>151347517
Go away with your logic, anon.
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>>151347721
>They broke away from the codex in 3.
Except they don't as many of their members still recite it. the thing about cults, is that there is a million ways to interpret the same rules, see every major world religion

>Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't a lot of the ones in 3 from 2. Shouldn't that mean they should be similar personality wise. Even if they came from their own base they should have the same propaganda filed upbringing.
Fallout 2 was 40 years before Fallout 3, and theres very few old people in The Enclave in Fallout 3.

> Enclave and according to you BoS don't care about wastelanders
No, they care about themselves, however, they also realize they eed the wastelanders to survive as their own numbers are too low to do it themselves.

>It would probably be better for both groups to advertise that they're the few people with guns, water and shelter in the wasteland
Everyone has guns and some shelter in the wasteland, see Megaton, Rivet city, Tenpenny Tower, etc. etc.

that's not anything to advertise.

> and have everyone see them as a becon of hope
But turning on the water purfier DOES make people see them as a beacon of hope, as they brought fresh water to the wasteland, AND CONTROL the distributions of it, forcing everyone to stay in line or not get fresh water.
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>>151347517
It filters radiation.
You can't filter salt from massive bodies of salt water and then just have the salt magically disappear by the way.
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>>151347517
Too bad it filters the radiation into the inside of the purifier
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>>151348328
>Too bad it filters the radiation into the inside of the purifier
It doesn't though.

James trigger a failsafe designed to kill anyone who tries to activate it with the wrong code.

At the end of Fallout 3 that was becuase of damage to the purifier by Liberty Prime, and possible Enclave sabotage.

As we see in broken Steel, you can normally enter it just fine with no radiation.

>>151348232
>You can't filter salt from massive bodies of salt water and then just have the salt magically disappear by the way.
Who said it magically disappeared, did you forget the purifier consists of not only he upper floors, but the lower ones as well?

There is a million and one places they could store it.
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Want to do a monk build in NV. What should I worship though?

Should I just be a generic Christian-like monk? Should I be a ghoul and be a part of the Bright Brotherhood? Those are the only 2 I can really think of at the moment, besides the Children of Atom.
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>>151348602
>What should I worship though?
Make a cult and try to recruit people. Bonus if it's something really stupid that only stupid people would fall for.
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>>151348602
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>>151348224
>There are multiple ways to interpret the same rules
People who do the exact opposite of the rules in cults or religions are often called crazy
>Fallout 2 was 40 years before three
Again, they should have had a similar upbringing if they're part of the same group
>they need wastelanders
So why not just annex them? They have the power armor and fire power to do it and it would be better for everyone in the long run.
>Everyone has some guns and shelter
BoS and enclave have the biggest guns around and power armor. Megaton houses a max of 30 people and Tennpenny caters to the rich. I can see people going to rivet city but with the amount of people that can't go into the formers they're going to run out of room
>Becon of hope
Why would you not join either in a desperate situation if they're desperate for numbers and you're desperate for food, water and shelter. This sounds like everybody wins. I'm going to bed now
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>>151348769
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>>151348602
>>151348769
How would one go of getting people to join a cult in NV?
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>>151349872
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>>151350092
Companion Share and Recruit would be an alright way, never used it a lot myself but I remember you had to pass speech checks to get people to follow you, seems pretty appropriate.
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>>151349872
>People who do the exact opposite of the rules in cults or religions are often called crazy
And Lyons still followed the rules, he did for years until he refused to raid Fort Independence for technology a year before Fo3 begins, which is why the Outcasts split.

>Again, they should have had a similar upbringing if they're part of the same group
Most of them are 20-30 years old, and brought up under autumn SR's leadership, and neither of them wanted that.

>So why not just annex them?
Because that is stupid as all fuck and leads to nothing but another NCR situation where their constant annexation of people who don't want to be is resulting in mass civil strife, and overall a less stable area.

Also, neither faction has the numbers for that. Lyons outright stated they barely have the manpower to hold the Citadel since the Outcast split.

>Megaton houses a max of 30 people
Only if you are retarded and actually thing game scale = lore scale. Megaton has more then 30 NPCs in it in-game, its population is easily that of several hundred in lore.

> they're going to run out of room
Except they aren't. theres not THAT many people in the Capital Wasteland region.

>Why would you not join either in a desperate situation if they're desperate for numbers and you're desperate for food, water and shelter. This sounds like everybody wins.
Because not everyone likes the BoS or Enclave.
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>>151350092
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>>151350228
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This motherfucker comes up to you and slaps your newly purchased IP on as the ass, what do you do?
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>>151346058
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>>151350770
Make sure he doesn't get his bonus for good ratings
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>>151350770
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>>151350787
>>151350650
>>151350496
umm, why are you posting lots of pictures exactly? The thread doesn't need bumping yet
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>>151351014
It's a bot. Don't reply to it. It's posting images from some sperg that wants attention.
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>>151350861
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>>151351014
Just report it for spam and ignore it.
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>>151350770
Give him all my money
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>>151351108
>it's a bot
uhhhh
What?
The fuck is the point in that?
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>>151351395
>The fuck is the point in that?
Autism.
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>>151350770
Get him to sing more songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3CeDIuWOyQ
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>>151351413
See this is why I hate /vg/
>Oh here's a game I know
>the thread isn't discussing the game, it has those stupid "3rd for X" posts, waifu shittery, autists dominating threads, circlejerking, namefags
Can I just.
Guy spamming the thread, could you please stop?
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Honestly what the FUCK was Bethesda thinking with fo4? After holistically finishing New Vegas, I'm kind of pissed that that abomination of a game was even released. How could they think that was an acceptable installment? Furthermore, specifically in comparison to the quality of NV's DLC, FO4's DLC is even more of a joke than the game itself. No content, no story, such a drastic step down from the story and contrasting yet interlocking nature that was/is OWB, DM, HH, and LR. Fuck lads I can't believe I'm upset about this
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>>151351537
I'm not sure he's even here. Even if he was he's a dickhead. Do you think he's going to listen to you?
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>>151351676
>Bethesda
>thinking with fo4
top laffs
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>>151351676
How can anyone that played 1, 2, Tactics, 3, + NV like that trash
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>>151351537
>Can I just.
>Guy spamming the thread, could you please stop?
Real convincing argument, anon. It's been reported that autismo blackoutfag just killed himself.
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>>151351820

Who was responsible for releasing that game? I'm asking so I can focus my anger specifically on them. FO4 was EA levels of fuck uppery
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>>151351780
Well I dunno how other people think, maybe he would stop if someone asked?
It's worth trying in any case.

>>151351820
It's kind of weird how big of a following Bethesda has considering the overall poor quality of their games though, I don't understand fanboys.

>>151351987
>argument
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>151352138
Now that you know how amazing my DLC is, you should buy the season pass! Heck, buy it twice!
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After finishing NV again, I've decided that I should probably play FO3 again as well. I know that this isn't the right general, but I figured, since you aren't autistic relative to /fog/, I would ask here. I downloaded FO3 through steam, and I found out that it now needs Games for Windows Live to work. Is there a way to circumvent GWL? I would perfer not having that botnet on my computer
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>>151353539
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/1086/
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>>151353539
>Is there a way to circumvent GWL?
I can't tell you how, because I don't know, but I'm almost positive you can.
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>>151350496
May I ask what shotgun that is?

Haven't seen many high quality SBS style double barrels.
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>>151353539
You can turn it off, but it might not work. Bethesda has never patched this out yet still has the thing sitting on the steam store ready for the next idiot to purchase it.

Your best bet is download TTW. You're still getting F3 and all it's DLC, but with added NV features which honestly make the gun play much better.
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>>151335731
Any other suggestions?

I'm also hoping for RP suggestions. I should mention that the main reason I want to do this is because Legion is one of the few playthroughs I haven't tried yet, and I hear Ulysses has some special dialogue to offer a female Legion-aligned courier, which should be interesting to hear.

I'm also determined to make her either a melee or unarmed character with a throwing weapon focus.

Endgame weapons will likely be Blade of the West and a buttload of throwing spears courtesy the skirmisher mod.
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Real recoil or immersive recoil?
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>>151354379
>Suggestions
Have you tried a build revolving around survival?
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Can someone reupload MAIBATSUs weapons?
For some reason he removed then from the nexus
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>>151355175
real
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>>151355175
Neither, go for the vertical recoil mod instead. In fact, just get Gun Behavior Merge.

The mod makes the guns feel much better and weighted.
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>>151355305
It's going to be that as well! That's one of my planned tag skills. Though I'm debating using Vicious Wastes so it probably won't be a solid way to heal or anything. So, I'm mostly taking it for the associated perks.
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>play caravan
>my AP and condition bar vanishes
>suddenly have flashbacks and realize this bug has happened every single time I've played
What have I been doing wrong?
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What are good mods to make FO3 less awful if you're planning a TTW run?
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>>151358423
Nothing. You can dress up it's aging gameplay all you want but it's still got Bethesda's garbage writing, shoehorned in psuedo "fallout" elements, lack of originality, forced celebrity dad, lack of roleplay, black and white morality, shitty world, a billion repetitive train tunnels and did I mention Bethesda's garbage writing? Because it's fucking garbage and they didn't learn anything from it for 4.
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Alright /cfog/, I dug up my old laptop and loaded fallout 1/2/Tactics onto a flash drive and put it on my new laptop. I'm gonna finish them before I go to boot camp.
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>>151360213
Have fun, anon.
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>>151359197
Why learn to write, when you can just earn money?
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>>151358423
I still don't understand the point of TTW. I mean, I don't despise 3, but why would I want to play it? I had some fun with it years ago and I don't think I'll touch it ever again.
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>>151360931
I should've invested all my SPECIAL to Luck, shouldn't I have?
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Rest in peace, you wonderful bastard.
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>>151365116
>I should've invested all my SPECIAL to Luck, shouldn't I have?
Anon what the fuck are you DOING? At least tell me your Agility.
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>>151365167
06
I'm new to isometric RPG's
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>>151365167
>>151365250
should I restart?
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>>151365250
>06
I would. Agility is pretty damn important. To me, at least.
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>>151365145
>tromping around Zion in power armor
Dickhead.
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>>151365451
Yeah, I kinda felt too OP. Damn.
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>>151365432
ST 04
PE 05
EN 06
CH 04
IN 04
AG 10
LK 07
Tagged skills are small guns, lockpick, and speech
traits are bloody mess and skilled
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>>151365734
You're strength/int are a bit low for my liking. Skilled kinda sucks if I remember right, while gifted is OP. Besides that pretty good.
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Jesus, how can 6 terminal entries beat the plot of Fallout 3 and 4 combined together?

That was fucking amazing.
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>>151365512
Not him, but it ain't even about being OP. You're fucking up the trails and scenery with massive fucking metal boot prints and shit.
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>>151366982
Haaaaaaaaaa, you're right. I'll try to use Honest Hearts only armor on my next playthrough of this DLC.
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>>151365734
Skilled is awful, bloody mess is okay, but really it's not all that great. Gifted and Small Frame(?) I think are the best traits for FO1. Gifted and Fast Shot (which ever reduces AP cost for no aimed shots, can't remember the name off hand) are the best for FO2.

Either way, prepare to get your ass handed to you.
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>>151366267
>>151366519
Honest Hearts would been a total waste of time if it weren't for the few great things about it.
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>>151367101
A level 21 Skilled character will have 2 perks less, it's not that bad as long as you know what you are doing. I still wouldn't recommend it though, bonus skills is not that beneficial.
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>>151368074
Yeah, but 2 perks in FO1/2 are far better than a few extra skill points. This ain't 3/NV where Perks are good, but skill points can bring you over the edge. Perks make or break you in FO1/2 because of how OP they are
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>>151368198
I can understand nerfing the Sniper perk, but I was still a little sad. It was so absurd on FO1/2.
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>>151365035
IDK it's not a very good game, but it has a certain charm to it for me. I also really enjoyed the Point Lookout scenery; kind of wish that map was a lot bigger then it was.
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>>151368407
The vast majority of the perks were pretty well nerfed into the ground unfortunately since they got forced into VATS which was good in 3 and not so good in NV and completely fucking garbage in 4, but that's neither here nor there as far as this general is concerned. Damn shame desu. I can't think of a single perk in 3/NV/4 that's anywhere near the same level as in 1 or 2.
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>>151368630
It's no wonder they were nerfed. You'd get 8 perks max on FO2, meanwhile NV hands you 25.
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>>151368792
>You'd get 8 perks max on FO2,
You can get more perks in FO2 than you can in NV. Max level is 99.
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>>151368830
I guess I should have said "a sane person gets 8 perks max", and level 24 is already really pushing it. On the other hand, NV will max you out before all quests are done.
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>>151369014
I don't think I've ever been above 40 in NV desu.
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>>151366267
>>151366519
>Jesus, how can 6 terminal entries beat the plot of Fallout 3 and 4 combined together?
Is this hyperbole?
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>Bof is back
It's just like old times.
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I have become too damn overpowered thanks to the level cap bullshit and this game is no longer a challenge, what the fuck should I do to limit myself? What level should I limit myself to?
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>>151370204
You could always grab Logan's Loophole as a trait.
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>>151370204
Vicious wastes, JSawyer. They reduce the level cap to 30 and make healing items more shit, I never do a playthrough without at least one of them.
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>>151370304
>>151370329
Thanks senpai.
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wtf i hate jsawyer now
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>>151370705
>We waz leguhn an sheit
What did he mean by this?
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>>151359197
>aging gameplay
Not even gonna bother reading this post if you're gonna say something as retarded as "video games age".
>>151358423
Basically anything that makes the F3 portion more like FNV.
Maybe fucking one day they'll get around to updating and give us the reputation shit.
>>151365035
Because comparing NV to 3 directly is interesting in itself and some of the items are pretty cool.
Besides I don't care what anyone says the DC exploration was fun. The desert was the shitfest.
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>>151374040
>i have no arguments so ill just pretend youre invalid!!
DC was shit.
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>>151367825
I like Honest hearts. The items were cool, the characters were interesting, the environment was fantastic. It also was as long or short as you wanted it to be. A lot of optional shit which is nice.

HH>DM=LR>OA>TP>MZ=PL>OWB

F3 is BS Heh so I don't include it in optional DLC rank.
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And you will know my name is the Lord, when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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>>151374090
I don't have a clue what your argument even was, all I know is you're one of those stupid people who think a video game somehow changes over time as if it was wine or some shit.
Aka a complete fucking retard.
Video games don't change, you change and thus your perception of them does.
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>>151374420
>still no argument
DC was shit, 3 was shit. It's not worth touching even with NV's improvements.
Unfiltered garbage, get fucked.
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>>151374469
>still no argument
Apparently you're incapable of reading too which isn't surprising considering how stupid you come across.
Of course I don't have an argument for you chucklefuck, I didn't read your post.
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>>151374863
>didn't read
>claims anyone is incapable of reading
Nice autism, retard. Fuck off, chucklefuck.
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>>151332960
Nah, todd has already said voiced protag was a mistake, as with limited dialogue options
lucky tes fans, we were the experiment
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>>151366519
I don't want to defend Bethesda, but it's easier to write a neat little non-interactive story that "just happened" in the world than to write a large story that must include character agency.

>>151368630
On top of my head, Implant GRX and And Stay Back are absurdly strong. Thanks, Avellone!

>>151375284
>lucky tes fans
Well, they still are going to get a TES game. Then again, seems like they like those.
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What's your longest New Vegas playthrough, /cfog/?
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>Shotgun Surgeon
>And Stay Back!
>Fully modded Hunting Shotgun with DB ammo

Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.
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>Doing honest hearts
>All this plant life
>Mfw
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I've killed all Legendary Creatures.
I've finished all the DLC's.
I've obtained the most powerful weapons and armors.

Goddamn, I feel sad that the only thing I have to do is finish this playthrough.
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>>151376382
My first playthrough, was about 130 hours.

>>151377471
This is the worst feel, weirdly gratifying and upsetting at the same time.
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Playing New Vegas, someone please help.
I can't leave the Mojave Outpost, I'm inside one of the buildings there and no matter how many times I try to leave the game crashes when I exit the building, it crashes during the loading screen.

I have tried many things-
>committing suicide
>changing/cleaning things with FNVedit
>restarting computer
>deleting preferences, running vanilla launcher again
>killing myself, then reloading automatically, try to go through door that way
>reload an earlier autosave from when I entered the building, can't go back out
>disabled ENB, didn't change a thing
>10 hours on this save in the last 2 days, never had a problem with the mods/load order

What can I do?

Is there something wrong with this load order?
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>>151376382
300hr

They normally cap around 20 - 50hr, especially since I started only doing permadeath runs where I'd still save/load, but delete saves upon death
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>>151377856
Yep, it's like you can't let go but you just have to. Fuck, man.
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>>151378240
>I have tried many things-
>committing suicide

why the fuck did i laugh
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>>151376382
Longest I can recal was 90 hours long.
I have 1037 hours total.
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>>151378734
Kek, I didn't actually mean it is as a joke, I googled it and people said to kill yourself and let the game automatically reload, but it didn't help.
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>>151378240
>perk every level

Utterly disgusting
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>>151379259
>he doesn't like fun
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>>151379486
Go play Fallout 4 you casual, maybe there you'll get your instagratification "fun"
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>>151379486
Puuuuuussy
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>>151379486
Huh? Perk every level actually eliminates fun since it makes you a God at level 15. Fun is when you're fighting one cazador and you poured 13 stimpaks to stop the poison.

But to each his own, I guess.
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>>151377470
>healing poultice
>rushing water
>weapon binding ritual
>gecko backed armor

why is survival the best stat?
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>>151378240
Have you tried COC command?
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>>151379607
>not having antivenom
profligate
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>>151376382

Over 130 hours for sure. With my current mod setup, I'd wager it would be twice as long.

Which reminds me I haven't deleted my current save. I think I should keep playing despite the inevitable problems from uninstalling quest mods and installing a different version of New Vegas Uncut...
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>>151381009
That's not speech
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>updated to W10 like a pleb
>NV crashes every 30-45 minutes like clockwork with or without mods
I'm willing to wager that Todd had something to do with this.
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I feel like I'm the only one who had fun with F4 here.
I didn't have high expectations, so I had fun wondering around Boston, ghosting through raider camps and walking along the rooftops and shit.
The dialogue wasn't bad, Just bland.
I know this isnt the general for this, but I hate how everyone is constantly posting "F4 IS FUCKING SHIIIIIIIIIT" when it wasn't really that bad of a game.
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>>151384579
As has been said in multiple generals and multiple threads: It isn't a bad game. It's an average to above average AAA release. It is an absolutely shit Fallout game though. Now fuck off to your containment general.
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>>151384830
/fog/ is a shithole full of /tesg/ rejects and mentally ill waifufags, I will not go back, and you cannot make me.
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>>151384579
Bad game? Eh. Bad Fallout? Yes.

I fucking hate Fallout 4
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>>151384579

There are plenty of great games out there. What I expect from a Fallout game is to be the best Fallout has to offer. And Fallout 4 failed.
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>>151384579
It's complete, pure garbage. Absolutely abysmal in just about every single respect.
Worst AAA game of the past 10 years at the very least. Souless and lazy at every turn.
>>
Go to /fog/ if you want to chat about Fallout 4, you stupid cunts

Fuck your petty hyperbolic arguments why it's the worst game ever and how it raped your mother; fuck the awful game itself and the direction Beth have steered a golden series into, too
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Honestly I couldn't put more than 30 hours into Fallout 4.
Absolutely horrid game.

I hated everything about it, even the graphics were nothing spectacular.

I would say it was only marginally better than 3, but then again I kind of liked exploring 3, while exploring 4 was a total dreg.
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>come here expecting some F1/2 talk
>instead get a bunch of people shitting on F4 and autists who play thousands of hours of NV
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>>151386253
>come here expecting some F1/2 talk

Sure, you did. Now back to posting masculine trannies on /fog/.
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>>151384579
It just didn't have the same feel of a Fallout game, not even Fallout 3. It had a few cool things going for it but ultimately the """"streamlining"""" and Bethesda's desire to make it more """"accessible"""" made it feel like Skyrim but with guns to me.
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>>151386253
Most of those very autists are your only hope for your desire

Which we've dabbled in throughout the threads, you whiney cretin
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>>151386253
This, all 3D fallouts are hot fucking garbage, and choosing one over another is like saying "My moldy shit is better than your moldy shit!".
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>>151358423
Lone courier so the dialogue is slightly less shit
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>>151386558
(You)
>>151386253
Why don't you start?
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>tfw we will never get Van Buren
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Well, that's something I didn't know.
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>>151387204
Someone post the thing about Sawyer wanting to use the pipboy as a mechanic in Van buren
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>>151387449
Shut up, wesley.
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>re playing FNV and rooting the legion because why not
>All of them are MASSIVE CUNTS

oh well, i'm going to murder that wanker of Caesar with the Auto-doc machine
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>>151387204
http://www.moddb.com/games/f3-van-buren
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>>151387697
>hates the shit out of modern and technological medicine
>has a fucking auto-doc in his room

This old bald motherfucker.
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I really suck at Fallout 1
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I need a rope.
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>>151388826
Go to Shady Sands and talk with Set, he's the guard at the front gate.
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>>151389901
Seth, fuck. Their names are so similar.
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>>151387470
That was Avellone, IIRC.
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When /fog/ was the main thread, and even now, people have the perception that the only NV players left are "hardcorde D&D nerd autists" (quote)

Why is this?
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playing fo2 for the first time, anything i ought to know?
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>>151338361
The Courier has access to better technology than House with the DLC
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>>151266635
Dinner Bell
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>>151392297
This is what's waiting for us if we go back
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>>151266635
Riot shotgun is ez mode. Try it, but if it's not fun switch down to a hunting shotgun.
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>>151392885
Are there any other riot shotguns other than the one in vault 34?
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>>151392830
Do people genuinely think this cancerous "thick" shit looks good? I'm convinced it's a meme.
All those characters look like terribly obese people waiting to die of a coronary.
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>>151394403
Some do genuinely find fat people attractive for some reason.
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>>151394403
in the last few weeks one cunt has been posting his waifu, a 7' tall russian with muscles like tree trunks, think zarya from overwatch but twice as ugly

and every time people ask what mods he uses instead of telling him to fuck off
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>>151392830
>>151394403

IMO she would be genuinely hot if she dropped around 30 pounds, while still remaining chub.

I think though it may have to do with the "milf" view that the more curves she has, she is more of a milf (as opposed to the 30-year old skinny-as-fuck "milfs").
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>>151395796
she is a video game character

it's not real
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I'm at Junktown, bugged Gizmo, about to fuck his shit up with Killian.
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>>151396018
Go for the gaurd first. Let dogmeat fuck his shit up
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>>151395912

your mom isn't real
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>>151338361
>his intelligence
He has like 5 int and 9 LK. He's not that smart. He's just lucky. He's fucking Timothy Dexter of the 23rd century.
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>>151396356
>judging characters based on their SPECIAL which the player isn't meant to see

In that case Lily and Rex are smarter than Boone.
>>
Vegas is rightful Enclave clay
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>>151396460
Boone ain't the sharpest tack in the box if you didn't notice. Rex is a cyberdog, a literal computer dog. Pretty smart. Lily is pre-war. She's a little messed up in the head, but other than that she's not dumb.
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>>151394695
I get that some do like that shit, but the point I'm trying to make is that these people with their bodyslide abominations are delusional if they think their characters look remotely human.

There's a big difference between a well made character on the larger side and the horribly proportioned monsters I've been seeing everywhere.
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>>151396584
>Implying
The enclaves time is over.
>>
>Marching into Great Khans territory alone with power armour and a gatling laser/Fat man and killing them ALL

Is there anything on this earth more orgasmic than this?
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>>151397875
They'll be back
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>>151398328
The time of the Enclave is over and they should be put to death. That is unless Bethesda decides shoehorn them in again.
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>>151397875
Your time will come, mutie scum.
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>>151392661
When you get to vault city you should just take your armour off as it will speed things along being in your vault suit

Do the same thing to recruit Dogmeat if you stumble into Café of Broken Dreams (random overworld event)

Those are the only early tips I'll offer as they're a tiny bit out there, I guess

Have fun!~
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>>151398313
Yes there is. You and your companions getting fucked by their pet cazadores and getting impregnated by them.
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>>151398793
are there more pathetic people in the whole fallout community than Enclave """roleplayers"""

I don't think even waifufags are that close desu
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>>151399247
Whinging fucks like you, tbpqh
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>>151399480
why didn't you add "mutie scum" this time, samefag
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>>151399578
*Zzzzzt* ur gay *zzttttt*
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>>151381036
I got caught up playing and had a lot of fun so I forgot to respond. That worked, can't believe I didn't think of it. Thanks very much!
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>>151396584
>>151398793
What weapon mod is that?
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>>151400153
It's the Argon Rifle from the AG Supplementary Uniques mod. You can find it under the puddle on the top west end of the map, locked behind a very hard lock and surrounded by plasma mines.

>>151399578
Die, mutie scum.
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>>151400286
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Just started using FNVLODGen. Wish me luck.

Also forgot to install IHWT for this playthrough, meaning now Boomers won't look so silly after I'm done installing it.
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>>151400607
>wish me luck (using this automated program that my eleven year old cousin has literally used)

What did he mean by this????
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>>151400412
Yeah, pic related is where you find it too.

It's a good mod, adds some really cool unique weapons all over the wasteland, makes some unmarked and other empty kind of locations have some interesting stuff in it.

The weapons are of all kinds too, sniper rifles, shotguns, pistols, laser and plasma, etc.
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How does it cycle?
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Does anyone know if LoversLab has gone through a change of management or userbase or something? I'm gone for almost a year, come back, and find out that two of my mods that I uploaded were suddenly missing (not that I'm complaining they weren't very good anyway). Then when I uploaded a new one, it got double posted. I told mods the one I didn't want. What did they do? They removed the one that I was actually using, meaning I had to rewrite out the description and everything. The fuck?
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>>151335731
>>151354379
Anyone?
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>>151404267
What? For backstory?
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>>151404267
Try to rp as Red Lucy
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Needs some help here.

Some destitute travelers in the 188 post have bugged bodies. I use a body replacer and New Vegas Redesigned 3. I suspect this has to do with a mod adding them back into the game, and them being unsupported by NVR3.

What do? It's an annoying bug.
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>>151404386
That and roleplay suggestions. I've read about too many "female" legion-aligned characters that came off as eye-roll inducing so I'd like to hear /fog/'s opinion on what playing such a character might involve, since people here are pretty well-versed on NV lore compared to most other places.

I can't really get into playing a character unless I can properly roleplay their mindset and I've been stumped on this one for a while, even if it's a character I've wanted to do for a couple months.
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>>151404267
Savage Tribal girl who's freakishly strong family attacked everyone in sight until wiped out by various raider tribes and NCR.
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>>151405084
You're a legbeard wanting to dismantle the patriarchy, proving that women are just as tough as men, and fucking up at every single turn trying to do so.
Just like in real life.
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>>151405084
>>151405212
When I say savage I mean give the PC low int, give her those peeks that let you fuck people and 10% more damage ( I forgot what they're called) and the cannibal perk. Kill and eat any NCR soilders as retribution.
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>>151404267

Well, she could be a woman with daddy issues eager to prove herself to me, and what better man to prove herself to than the most dictatorship and sexist man in all of the Mojave?
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>>151405084
It's not like you can actually join anyway. Caesar will just say "hey you're useful, do things for me"
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>>151405557
>Sexist
Please, give me one good example of Caesar actually being sexist.
>>
>come back to /fog/ to make memes and see if FO4 is worth it yet
>gens are split
saw it coming.

3 was okay, but NV is extremely superior in every way. I just wish it got properly finished.
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Which hat is best?
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>>151406063
left matches the armor
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>>151405440
It must be sad having to go through life filled with this much barely repressed spite.
>>
>>151405757
Most people that form that opinion of the Legion never actually speak to Caesar himself.

They just talk to his underlings, people that Caesar himself doesn't have too high an opinion of.
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>>151405757
He makes all of his soilders men and makes the women carry supplies on their backs
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>>151406612
Men are stronger and have higher endurance than women, which makes them better soldiers.

He's more pragmatic than sexist.
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>>151406207
It gives +1 PER instead of a Barter bonus as well, which is more useful since I'm already at 100 so I'll switch to that.

I've been using the one on the right for most of my playthrough so I guess it's time for a change of pace.
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>>151406835
If they're stronger why aren't they carrying the bags? Why are the women so quiet and afraid to speak?
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>>151406835
Caesar just does what Hitler did. Clear gender roles in society for "his people" so that it functions like a well-oiled machine.

This didn't stop Hitler from having female spies and it certainly doesn't stop people from Hitler having deadly female assassins or super-soldiers in pulp-type media.
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>>151405084
So did you find a roleplay idea you like?
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>>151407007
>If they're stronger why aren't they carrying the bags?
Because fighting requires more strength then does lifting a bag full of potatos from one end of the camp to the other.
>Why are the women so quiet and afraid to speak?
Let me guess, >m-muh internalized muhsoggyknees
>>
>>151407007
Because supplies are important, and it would be more effective for them to carry the supplies so that the soldiers don't wear themselves out, this would require more food though, which leads me to my second point.

I haven't completed the game as the Caesar's legion, but aren't those female slaves? If so it makes sense that he kills all of the men and use the women as slaves. This was a common practice in pre-modern times.
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Alright guys, I haven't played this game since release and never used mods. Am I ready to go with these or have I missed something that's really necessary?
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>>151407007
Because the men are warriors, not pack mules.
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>>151408007
>No sexout
>No JSawyer
>No character overhauls
>No lighting and weather overhauls
Pretty boring tobh senpai.
>>
>>151407007
Because those are slaves and prisoners of war.

Women get treated better back in Legion-owned territory, you never actually get to see what a Legion-aligned female is like on the frontlines.

But many are part of a group of "priestesses" devoted to upbringing and teaching in most practical affairs.
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>>151407608
>Aren't those female slaves? If so it makes sense he kills all the men
Yes he kills all the men and keeps the women and children.
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>>151408854
>No JSawyer
I thought Nevada already made a bunch of balance fixes so I figured I don't need the JSawyer mod.

> No lighting and weather overhauls
Nevada skies is a weather mod

>No character overhauls
I was thinking of getting one right now actually after seeing some of the pictures here.

>No sexout

Not sure what you mean by this
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>>151408943
Really? Where is this stated?
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>>151408007
>Project Nevada
>Nevada Skies
>doesn't even have the full game
What are you doing man?!
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>>151408943
The Daughters of Hecate are still canon?
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>>151409378
>t. Pete Hines
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>>151409848
What
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>>151405757

The guy prefers having women carry tons of supplies over sparing extra men from the tribes he conquers to do the job.
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>>151409640
>Project Nevada
I see this recommended everywhere, care to elaborate why I shouldn't use it?

>Nevada Skies
What's wrong with Nevada Skies? It's the top ranked weather mod I found on Nexusmods
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>>151405440

Are they amused because she is holding the handgun facing herself?
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>>151410485
The guys get sent to the front lines, it's not like they all just sit around sipping martinis getting waited on by the girls. The girls are there to move supplies, the males to fight and die for their tribe. What, you'd rather have the women take the hazardous occupation? Having nice stable job of moving supplies not good enough?
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>>151410527
>amused
no they are fucking angry. you really shouldn't do that.
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>>151411007

That's the reason though right, the handgun?
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>>151405440
That looks like someone that hasn't been properly drilled on safe firearm handling, Anon, or at the very least needs to be drilled. I don't think it has anything to do with their sex.

I'd probably feel differently if I hadn't witnessed numerous male recruits do the same thing.
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>>151340268
it's interesting through, NCR is decidedly VERY different between each game.

1. It's just Shady Sands.

2. It's a government and they have minted their own money, but it's still growing.
NCR (the city) is nice, but it's still growing.

New Vegas: They control almost all of California, have drove out the remaining Enclave, and have upped their level of sophistication.

Printed, hard to counterfeit paper money. Mass produced uniforms and weapons. Have forced almost all of the California raider tribes to flee to Nevada (Jackals, Vipers, Khans).

The only cities not under their control by the time of Fallout 2 are New Reno and San Fran (I think)

Speaking of which, I'm confused about something from Fallout 4.
Kellog is shown in San Francisco during one of his memories, but the memory before that references him being in NCR territory.

This leaves me two options.

A. Bethesda fucked up and thought NCR controlled SF/Or NCR actually controlled SF

or

B. Kellog was raised to hate the NCR and moved to Shi controlled San Fran when he grew up in order to avoid them.

What's more likely?
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>>151410506
It turns the game into an FPS, which is fine if you're an indecisive prick who doesn't know what game he wants to play. If you want a better RPG experience, JSawyer is better. The only semi decent thing in PN is the sprint tool.

As for Nevada Skies, it's really overrated. The backgrounds are literal wallpapers and feel really out of place ingame. Some of the moods you can have are okay, like the Western Skies one, but really Fellout is the far better alternative.

If you are running vanilla+ for your first modded run, you'll need
>YUP for big fixes
>NVCE to fix some of the more goofy faces, and to make the faces look more like their card game counter points
>Enhanced camera
>New Vegas Uncut volumes 1 to 6
>New Vegas Uncut: Outside Bets
>NVAC + stutter removers
>Uncut wasteland
>Fallout 4 quickloot
>Refined Casino suits
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>>151408007
>loading mods before game
>not owning full game
>still using Project Nevada in 2016
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>>151411483
A obviously.
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>>151411489
Quickloot is gross
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>>151411667
With containers I agree it doesn't really work. You shouldn't be able to see what is inside a container before you loot it.
On people, it works a charm.
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>>151411483
>A. Bethesda fucked up and thought NCR controlled SF/Or NCR actually controlled SF
NCR does control SF in FNV at least, Colonel Hsu is a Shi.
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>>151412018
Where have you got this from, aside from the fact that he is Asian?
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>>151411667
This. Vanilla looting feels more rewarding and immersive for some reason then quick looting.
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How do you level in Jsawyer? Everything gives fuckall for XP. Are you basically forced into questing for xp?

I want my mad bomber dammit
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>>151412492
>>151412492
>>151412492
>>151412492
New
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>>151412247
>Vanilla looting feels more rewarding and immersive for some reason then quick looting.
Vanilla looting feels fuckawful. I came to hate it in DLCs where containers are fucking everywhere. Fuck looting.
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>>151411483
>Kellog was raised to hate the NCR and moved to Shi controlled San Fran when he grew up in order to avoid them.
B. is stated in-game. Kellogg's mother raised him to believe that he needs no one else but the gun in his hand. He grew up thinking the NCR was pointless and did his best to get away from it. He first went to San Fran with his family, but mercenaries killed them so he fled East after killing his family's murderers.
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>>151410740

1. It makes more sense to get weaker man to do the job, instead of killing them all.
2. Not treating the women like slaves and whores would give the Legion a better reputation.
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