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Previous Thread >>150823203

>What is Dead by Daylight?
Asymmetrical Online multiplayer. 4 survivors scramble to fix 5 generators, while 1 killer wants to sacrifice all of them

>Sounds like evolve
It's not. Survivors have to avoid the killer at all costs, whereas the killer has to hunt for them. Everyone has their own objective.

>General info
Pastebin with most questions asked: http://pastebin.com/DDddy4uE
Pastebin with all of the values (perks/items/whatnot): http://pastebin.com/vCh6gxR6
Saved game with everything unlocked or whatever: http://www.mediafire.com/download/3qmzt3ok3p47xqw/TakeTHATsociety.profje

>Official site
http://www.deadbydaylight.com/

>Discord Chat
https://discord.gg/Eb3WFHz

>Latest Patch Notes (v1.0.5)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/360671352684578563/

>Report hackers
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/358415206087328621/

>Report bugs
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/7/
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Is it me or are some of the wooden fence enclosures scattered around Coldwind maps very easy to exploit as a survivor?
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>>151235349
if the killer is stupid then yes
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Now I remember why I play mostly Killer. Playing Survivor just isn't that fun. At least it won't be as bad with the new rank changes where you're not absolutely fucked over when some shitstain body blocks and spams heals on you after you do four generators solo and makes sure you die so he can escape for free
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>>151215668
>>151215818
>"I've never played killer before"
Survivor hides in a locker on the other side of the map for four minutes.

>>151217649
>>151217829
>"three dead is enough for a pip"
>"it's your fault that the survivors are utter shit at surviving"

>be a killer
>find first survivor in 15 seconds
>hook him
>deliberately leave him alone so someone can rescue him
>nobody rescues him, he dies
>someone disconnects
>find the third survivor, hook him
>deliberately leave him alone so someone can rescue him
>nobody rescues him, he dies
>fourth survivor jumps into the hatch
>don't pip
Now, tell me, is it my fault that none of the survivors saved one another?

>>151218013
>"lel anecdotal evidence is totally valid"

>>151218779
Not even going to bother requoting myself desu
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>>151236595
I dunno man, the ones with two pallets and two windows are set up in a way that it's extremely hard to lose sight of the killer and you can almost always judge where he is. This one guy just always knew where I was wherever I tried to go or double back or juke. I caught him off guard once and got a hit but I wasted so much time even bothering and eventually said fuck it and left.
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>>151237319
You're just bad plus i bet you didn't break the pallets
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Fucking hatch is stupid af rework it or remove it devs you shiters
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Anyone want to see some farming fags get rekt?
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>>151237621
1. As soon as it opens, allow the killer to see it as if it were a door switch
2. Give it an opening animation like the door switch

There, I fixed it.
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>>151238051
Sure
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So is SWF officially broken? I heard there's been problems but I'm finally trying it out and I'm just getting No Matches Found.
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>>151238201
https://www.twitch dot tv/totallyworthless/v/82715072

Skip to 15:20 for start of game, 17:00 for rekkening. Also some backstory, the guy playing killer is a friend of mine, but I didn't know it was him. We had met when he was tricking rank 1s into thinking he was farming, but I specifically don't farm so he didn't get me. Messaged me after the game and we started playing together. Then this match occurred like a week later. 24:55 is when I find out who it was and get on his teamspeak. I'll warn you it gets loud though.
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Is the party queue broken?
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>>151238502
>>151238667
No, just barely functioning. Be prepared for possible 30 minute queue times, then having the killer dodge once you actually do find a lobby.
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>>151238772
ugh. well thanks.
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>>151238084
this

goodnight
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>>151238084
Do you have to open it all in one go, or can you 99% it and then finish it off once everyone is dead?
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>>151238772
>>151238959
was trying early today. for some reason it seemed that playing a game of KYF followed by SWF helped, but that's probably just in their heads.

All matchmaking in this game needs to be fixed, but SWF is a disaster. why put something in the game if it works maybe 5% of the time?
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>>151239303
You wouldn't be able to open it until you're the last survivor.
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>>151239352
Hatch is now useless and not at all a viable method of escape.
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>>151239773
Good. Hatch needs to be removed ASAP anyway.
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>>151240041
Quit hooking third survivor killerbabby
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>>151240041
honestly is it that big of a deal? if you play well it shouldn't make much a difference
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>>151239773
By that logic doors are useless and not a valid method of escape.
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>>151240247
There aren't two hatches anon.
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>>151240098
>>151240169
see
>>151214295
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>>151240332
>fix generator
>killer is now forced to(and willing to) stop camping the hatch and search for you
>you can now choose to go for the hatch while he's roaming, or fix remaining generators and give yourself 3 points of escape

Hello level 1 survivor
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I just learned you can climb those mountains from the 2 sides, i probably would've lost time there if any survivor ever tried to meme on me on that place
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>>151240371
Literally git gud
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>>151240530
Why don't you try playing without the hatch before telling others to git gud?
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>>151240495
that only works if there was only one gen left to fx anon. The hatch is to allow the survivor that doesn't suck ass to spend twenty minutes slowly and painfully crawling the map and incrementally fixing generators before being forced to commit to one of two locks that may or may not spawn directly next to each other. It's still a viable option but that certainly shouldn't be the only one.
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>>151240659
Why don't you git gud at the game before throwing around your worthless opinions like they have any weight to them. Face it, you're just pissy because you didn't get 4/4 sacs. Whether or not the hatch is a good mechanic or not is irrelevant to you since it didn't work to your advantage which means it must go.
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>>151240804
see
>>inb4 buttmad survivorbabbies can't properly refute it so they resort to personal attacks instead of acknowledging how pants-on-head retarded the hatch is
:^)
also
>calling others' opinions worthless while broadcasting their own opinion on how the others perform in their games like it's relevant to the discussion
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>>151241367

No one's going to waste time writing up a meaningful argument because you've already demonstrated a complete disregard for such things in the last ten threads you bitched and moaned about the hatch in.

We've learned from prior experience that posting the same copy-pasted screed again and again won't accomplish anything except to waste our own time and the time of others. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to understand that.
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>>151237132
>Survivor hides in a locker on the other side of the map for four minutes
Then gets crows on them and is easily found, gg.
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>>151242659
>you've already demonstrated a complete disregard for [meaningful arguments]
I have yet to be shown a meaningful argument, friend. So far, the only one who seems to be taking this personally is you.
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>get a Fragrent Bog Laurel offering
>I'm an objective-focused fucker, may as well pop that and get some extra points
>killer burns an Ardent Shrike Wreath
>oh
>manage to get my objective points and be the only one to escape
>killer was a rank 1 with NOED 3 and Shadowborn 3
>my Hope 3, Spine Chill 1 level 16 ass did better than two level 50s with the infinijuke shitter's starter kit of Sprint Burst - Self Care

it was a pretty good day.
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>>151241367
>so bad he can't even handle the hatch

Keep crying

>p-personal attacks ;_;

Holy kek
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>>151243212
>So far, the only one who seems to be taking this personally is you.

...nobody said anything about you taking this personally.
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>>151243523
I don't care about the insults themselves, I care that they're not arguments and how they show that the person making them is unable to make arguments.
>>151243560
Well, he did accuse me of disliking the hatch solely because he thinks I'm buttmad about survivors escaping.
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Woah hoo hoo, where do you think you're going /dbdg/? It's time to fire up those Daily Rituals.

You did remember to do your Daily Rituals, right /dbdg/?
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>>151237481
He never even used the pallets, just kept running in this weird loop where he'd always vault a window. There's enough fence space that I couldn't gain ground on him.
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>Bonus bloodpoints offerings are universally doubled in strength
>Uncommon and better Survivor bloodpoint offerings now give one third of their effect to the rest of your team
>Uncommon and better Killer bloodpoint offerings give one quarter of their effect to the other categories
>A Very Rare tier of bloodpoint offerings is added that increase the bonus effects to 50%, but have the same boost as the Rare tier
bloodpoint booster offerings are now more effective and team-oriented, and aren't just the entity throwing traffic cones at your head to slow you down

>Matchmaking always tries to find other players as close to your rank and level as possible (instead of the current shitshow circus of 'rank 20 level 1 killer vs rank 1 level 3-50 survivors' or vice versa)
>Your rank is recorded at the end of every game, anyone who gains more than one rank at a time gets nothing and is placed into low-priority matchmaking for the rest of the month
>Serial saltbaby disconnecters get placed in low priority matchmaking temporarily, but with increasing penalties (as well as tanking their rank)
>When ranks reset, you get bonus stuff (bloodpoints and offerings) based on your highest average rank of that month
you now have an actual reason to rank up and stay ranked up, and the end of the season isn't utterly, literally fucking meaningless

thoughts?
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>>151240670
As a team based game, it makes some sense to have the solo remaining player at some disadvantage.

I would agree, however, that it's bullshit to have the two locks spawn within vision of one another. A player should be ABLE to succeed solo with the hatch, but it should be by no means a guarantee.

In fact, the fact the hatch is an instant out for them actually works to their benefit; either they can get out or the killer has incentive to camp/search for it, taking pressure off the generators.
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>>151251218
>Instant out
Not if I don't hit them it's not.
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I didn't realize I was playing against the fucking cast of Splinter Cell
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>>151251826
I hope to Christ you weren't Wraith, because Wraith can't lose, ever.
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>>151251843
Hillbilly
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So did they actually make it so the wiggle meter depletes much slower/not at all in the patch? Is that what they meant by "Added a penalty to the wiggle build-up when a killer puts a survivor down"

>sac 2 survivors
>last 3 gens are around the basement, as planned
>last 2 guys are hiding hardcore
>eventually find Claudette and down her
>carry her back to the basement area with Iron Grasp 3 but drop her to go after Jake who fuck up a gen
>chase Jake all the way to the other side of the map
>chase him around the mine shaft trying to keep him away from the infinijuke
>he tries to play keep away with me with a pallet
>fake him out and down him
>get him to the one hook on the map he didn't sabotage
>find Claudette thanks to crow bros
>she breaks free after like 2 seconds
>it had to have been at least 3 minutes since I dropped her

I still caught her and got her to the basement but damn.
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>Rat gets trapped in your room
>Trying to get out through a door by gnawing at it but keeps darting back behind cover every time he sees you

It's like I was playing DBD
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>>151252651
It means whenever you drop a survivor and pick it up it adds a bit to the wiggle meter so you can't infinitely pick people up and drop them.
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playing as billy
I'm currently stuck in a game after one disconnected, two were sacrificed, and one left through the gate

But it's not taking me to the scoreboard and end screen. wat do?

Anyway, why is this game and so many others being released so fucking broken?
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>>151254587
Because lower standards, most games these days are "early acccess" in a way AKA not complete/still have tons of bugs.

Even fucking Street Fighter came out unfinished. Fucking retarded this age of video games.
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If you want the least cancerous region, change to Japan, they have literally no clue what infinites are 99% of the time. They do camp hook though, but you can't really blame them when THE FUCKING TUTORIAL TELLS THEM TO.
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A LOCKER
I'LL HIDE IN IT, NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW
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>>151259925
FUCK OFF NIGGER THAT'S MY LOCKER
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>start a match against a bunch of low level/low rank Survivors
>find a Dwight, he's trying to infinijuke over palettes
>just walk away, come back a few secs later
>he's there working on the same gen
>whack him
>as I'm chasing him around a Meg is just crouching in a corner, right next to a gen
>walk right up to her before she moves
>down and hook her, walk away to entice injured Dwight to be altruistic
>the three remaining Survivors all d/c at the exact same time

Well that was weird.
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>getting consistent pips and steadily ranking up through careful play and keeping my head down
>if I rank up any higher people might start to think actually I know what I'm doing when in reality I have no clue
>plus I main Jake so I'll start becoming part of the lobby dodge problem despite not using or even liking Saboteur

Maybe I should switch to Dwight.
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>>151261185
Literally every high level player has saboteur. It doesn't matter who you pick.
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>>151261185
Why Dwight? Jesus christ why is Dwight such a shitter magnet?
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>>151261374
>Jesus christ why is Dwight such a shitter magnet?
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The Killer should be able to leave. As in, if you open a gate and don't immediately escape, the Killer can walk out and the Entity, disappointed with the remaining Survivors, doesn't let them Survive. Because motherfucking christ, even as a Survivor main, it just drags the game out so much when you have players who open a gate and then run back in trying to do remaining gens and shit, whilst the Killer can effectively do nothing.
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>>151262794
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>>151263035
This could be simply fixed by giving survivors zero points for gens repaired after the gate is powered and zero for hooks once the gates are opened.
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>>151263035
Just fuck them up while they farm points for muh pips or wait for the hatch
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>>151263319
Actually yeah, just a flat out zero point gain across the board except for Altruism, so that Survivors can't farm points off Killers and will only get more with rescues.

>>151263456
It's impossible without NOED, and even that got nerfed.
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>>151263521
>It's impossible without NOED

But billy and trapper can do it, only wraith is fucked unless you don't get a double tap and they don't have sprint burst
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>>151263672
>hey stand still and don't jump in the hatch for 5 seconds while I obviously rev this fucking loudly telegraphed chainsaw, would you?
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So any reason for people to put some fake twitch url on their name? I wanted to share this easy game with you guys and if possible show you the visual bug that happened at the end of the match, reason why that guy escaped.
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>>151240041
it's not getting removed killercuck
get over it
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any tips for a novice hillbilly? I keep either getting shut out or only being able to down one or two survivors
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Why did they change the req gens to 3 for an open hatch? It only makes the game more boring.
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>>151265315
It's not even fake, learn to recognise the null's in this capital only game.
byl0tv
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>>151267426
O-oh. I'm sorry.
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HOL UP HOL UP
*hides in locker*
SO U BE SAYIN
*explodes generator*
HOL UP SO U BE SAYIN
*loots chest*
SOM FINNA
*sabotages hook*
LEMME GET DIS STRAIGHT
*pallet teleports to the killer's side*
LEMME GET
*gets pulled out of hatch*
HOL UP
*fails skillcheck*
SO HOL UP U BE SAYIN
*gets grabbed while unhooking*
EHEHEHEHE NAMSAYIN?
*infinijukes*
WE GON
*self heals*
FINNA WE GON
*shines flashlight*
AYOOOO HOL UP
*sprints through window*
HOL UP WE GON BE
*teabags at exit*
U SAYIN WE GON BE
*blocks other survivors*
AYYYYOOOO SOME FINNA
*gets pulled out of locker*
SO U FINNA BE SAYIN
*gets downed by NOED3*
THAT WE
*gets hooked*
WE WUZ
*fails hook escape*
THAT WE WUZ DWIGHTS N SHIT
*doesn't struggle*
SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
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>>151267932
It's not your fault desu, it's just this strange game that wants to capitalise all names and cut them off. Sometimes the twitch streamers don't even know their usrnames are cutoff in lobby and post-match lobby.
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>join a lobby
>three rank 10s
>type bye into the chat
>player asks me why
>I explain because we're not low rank enough so the killer will leave the lobby
>I don't think so, he types
>killer leaves
>join a new lobby
>he joins
>oh hey, guess you were right
>it happens again
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>>151268614
>it was the same killer
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>mystery box
>it's a flashlight add-on
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Okay, so obviously the devs are retarded shitters that don't even know what matchmaking means, BUT can we at least admit that the way points and ranking work is pretty genius? It's structured so you get the most points from more intense games, with hook rescues and chases and so forth. Making camping the least effective way to get points is pretty brilliant game design.
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>>151270060
Yeah but farming wraith babies like to exploit the point system
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>>151270178
That doesn't mean it should get changed, it just means that they should nerf wraith into oblivion.
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>>151270273
farm wraiths blow but that's no reason to destroy a killer who already got his ass handed to him in the last patch
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Gotta love that gook host
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>>151271721
>chung chong
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Is there anything scrubbier than the Wraith wall hack add-on?
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>>151272995
Wraith is trash now so there's a give and take
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>>151273114
How?
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>>151274440
His perks are all booty now
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>>151276418
Bloodhound was OP as fuck pre-patch, and you know what they did? They buffed it and made it even better. Wraith with wall hacks can find a guy, hit him and then hunt him down until the end of time.
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>>151277752
>bloodhound
>good

I'm literally speechless
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>>151277907
Go be retarded somewhere else.
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>>151279014
You're complaining about Wraith being OP

the WRAITH

but yeah, I'm retarded
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>>151277752
>"Wraith with wall hacks can find a guy, hit him and then hunt him down"
>getting hit by the wraith
>ever

that's so sad anon
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>killer NOEDs you 5 feet from escaping
>picking you up
>guy runs past and escapes
>REUNITED
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>>151279136
Wallhacks and bloodhound just shouldn't be as good as they are. Wraith himself is shit and you're proving your retardation if that's what you think I was saying.
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Anybody have pictures of bloodhound blood vs normal blood?
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>>151280863
This
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Not a big fan of bloodhound personally. I find myself looking down following it instead of cutting them off. Spies is 100% better anyway.
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>>151282161
Does Spies still trigger when you alert the crows yourself?
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>>151282778
No they patched that out.

>>151282161
Bloodhound is for if you ever lose sight of them, which you shouldn't be having happen for long. It's a crutch perk for killers who have trouble tracking.
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twitch chats are a cancer of basically white knights
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>>151265315
>Advertising your stream as a user name
These people should be gassed
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>>151288197
I go out of my way to camp them/let them die at the expense of my own bloodpoints
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>>151288438
Your doing gods work anon
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>>151288438
>>151288469
Twitch camping is true justice
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>highest rank in lobby is 13
>killer still quits
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>>151289517
you legit need to be 18-20 or they'll leave, even 18 is pushing it

I'm no fucking wiz at this game but I was killing Level 1s as a Rank 19 killer. Why do these scrubs think rank means you have no chance of killing them?
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>>151289915
Because they are bad so it is true.
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>>151289915
Because the game is significantly less fun when you have a game full of self-healing saboteurs

t. self-healing saboteur
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>>151290121

I honestly would agree with you but that doesn't mean literally all level ones will just sabotage your hooks and window loop you.

Also, it'd be one thing if people were leaving matches that were all levels 5 and under, but if more than too people are 15 or lower then you can basically guess that they'll leave.

also it's a little unfair because the survivors don't have the luxury of quitting if the killer is high level. we just get stuck with a level 1 wraith who memento mori's us and moves on. we take our 100 bloodpoints and join a new match.

FYI not survivor biased, I primarily play killer, it's just bullshit
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>>151291252
The same three perks since the game launched have been so desirable that players have invested literally dozens upon dozens of hours just to stack them onto one character. I don't blame the killers or the survivors, I blame the devs.
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>>151291621
They need to nerf sprint burst, sabotage, and self heal, and then need to buff basically all other unique perks

do you think they should buff dwight's perks or should they not even bother?
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>>151291621
>I blame the devs.
Sometimes I feel like teachable unique perks should have never been a thing. After you unlock them all there is no reason to play one survivor over another besides dailys even thats stretching it. At least Killers have their own unique mechanics and still give you a reason to play them over another.
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>>151292115
yeah, this. at a certain point the choice of survivor is just a skin.
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>>151291901
Personally I just think they need to remove teaching perks to other characters. I get why they can't now, after all of the time people have spent unlocking them, but they were a bad idea from the start. Sprint burst took a 50% nerf and is still a top 4 perk. What else can you do to them?
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>>151292254
I think since they can't get rid of teachable perks now they need to make the other uniques more enticing.
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>>151292254
Yeah there in too deep and would cause a huge backlash from people who spent the time to earn them. They really need to just balance them out better. The last patch was killer balancing so hopefully 1.0.6 has a lot of survivor balancing.
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what is the dev's justification for the insane grind just for perks?
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>>151292817
It's a pretty typical carrot on a stick
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>>151292817
To make the game have a purpose
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>>151292804
yeah waiting on survivor balancing. they removed jukes but after the killer balance without a survivor one it's a little skewed currently.
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>every killer uses Shadowborn
>devs say "OMG WE NEED TO NERF THIS INTO THE GROUND SO OP"
>every survivor uses Sprint Burst, Self-Care, Saboteur, Spine Chill/Premonition
>devs say nothing
>also the hatch is the most retarded bullshit to ever grace a video game

Could the devs be any more blind to what happens in their game?
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>>151293237
>they removed jukes
infinites still exist
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>>151293452
Matchmaking and the Sprint Burst, Self-Care, Saboteur dynamic are by far the biggest issues right now

Honestly I'm not bothered by Spine Chill/Premonition. Everybody talks up Spine Chill but I think it's useless.

I can live with the hatch honestly.

But the matchmaking and the unique perks issues are game breaking.
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>>151293601
okay yes I know a few still exist, the worst ones they did remove

I know it's not great but hey you can only expect so much from these devs
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>>151293753
My main priority is how bullshit the devs' excuse for nerfing Shadowborn is. "Everyone uses it, which means it's OP." Why the fuck weren't Sprint Burst, Self-Care, and Saboteur nerfed into the ground, then?
Also, the hatch is bullshit, but I don't think that has to be proven anymore.
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>>151294423
I agree it makes no sense. They must know by now that everybody uses those perks 100% of the time, so hopefully we can expect a balance soon?

Hopefully?


Please?
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>>151294423
I only really want saboteur to get nerfed, it just shouldn't be possible to end up with only 1 trap at the end of the game. It's the only one I see an issue with, same with hooks.
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>>151294790
Saboteur should be nerfed heavily, self-heal should be lightly nerfed, and all the shit survivor perks need to be buffed.

I will say this: I think the last killer patch did a lot of dumb stuff, but I do switch my perks way more than I ever did before. Same needs to happen for survivors.
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>>151294968
That's the thing, survivors have no idea what they're going up against so they can only change their perks to fit the style of play that they're planning on using, instead of adjusting to fit the opposition. And that's how it's always going to be since that's the only way to play survivor effectively.
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>>151296165
but I don't really change them based on "oh there's two megs and two jakes I'll pick these perks," it's more based on me trying a combo that doesn't work and trying a new one, which could work the same way for survivors.
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>>151293753
Spine chill has saved me quite a few times its least effective against a good skillbilly if he comes chainsawing up to you its usually too late. It's extremely useful against Wraith though because it still works while he's invisible and I generally have enough time to hide before he gets to me. It also has no cooldown and is always active unlike Premonition.
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>>151297042
good point, I can't get the hang of it really, so I wouldn't consider it "OP" but that's just my experience
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>>151294423
It honestly shouldn't have existed in the first place or never increased FOV. The game has dogshit FOV as an intentional design decision something to at least somewhat raise that is going to be a no brainer for many people. Especially those that suffer from motion sickness when playing a game at a very low FOV.
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Trying different survivors perks made me realize how shit most of them are.

Dwight's perks are worthless without a good team and grouping up like that makes you vulnerable to hillbilly drivebys.

Iron Will is good just not good enough because if they have something like bloodhound it may not matter how quiet you are. Calm Spirit is decent but not good enough to take over the better perks.

We'll Make it, This Is Not Happening, Slippery Meat, Resilience, Plunderer's Instinct, No One Left behind, Hope, Empathy, Deja Vu, Dark Sense, and Botany Knowledge are shit.

Adrenaline is sometimes useful sometimes not. Lightweight is good. Quick & Quiet is meh.

I would say the problem with most perks is their concept. Being able to run faster for a couple of seconds is just way more useful than being able to repair a generator slightly faster.
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>>151298972
Dark Sense isn't that bad. It's pretty much a guaranteed escape once the doors open, and I only have it at level one.
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>>151298972
>empathy
>shit

Literally one of the best perks in the game.
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>>151299272
There is too much stuff I would take over it. Adrenaline which also pops when the gates open is too good even if it sometimes does nothing.
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>>151299813
Since getting Adrenaline 20+ hours ago I've literally been healed by it 0 times.
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>>151298972
We'll Make It has some value in that you can rapidly heal someone you help off the hook, lowering the chances they'll be downed 20 seconds later.

Dark Sense is also useful if you find yourself often by the exit gate when the doors are powered.
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FYI devs have said on reddit that they plan on fixing lobby dodging and balancing sabotage

that doesn't mean shit but still
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>>151300036
When are they going to fix SWF so I don't have to ready up a thousand times? Should only have to ready once.
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>>151299895
In my experience it has saved me multiple times especially against those killers that love leaving people on the ground.
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>>151300036
Fucking hate having to go there to read their fucking AMA's.
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>>151300132
The value I've found in Adrenaline is more in the speed boost than anything else. Nothing sweeter than sprint bursting in the direction of the doors, the gates getting powered just as it ends, Adrenaline kicking in for five seconds, sprint burst kicking in when it finishes because adrenaline refreshes sprint burst's cooldown.

You can Sanic to the gate and open it quick.
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>>151300160
yeah yeah blah reddit sucks I know but it's useful to know that they're directly communicating with the community in some regard

not like they'd roll up through the vg, we'd make them all cry
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Hello guys, even if you don't believe it, we browse this place aswell to get ideas on what to do next, do not let >>151300395 decieve you!
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>>151271721
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>>151300126
I don't know, supposedly they have a large patch coming soon

Good question though, my brother just got the game and it's a huge pain trying to play together
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>>151300583
FIX SWF PLEASE JESUS
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>>151300583
make a qt survivor please
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>>151300946
>Meg
>Dwight
what more do you want
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>>151301195
Another cute one to pair with Meg.
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>>151300583
Give us hook-chan from the intro!
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>Lightborn
>Monstrous Shrine
>Unrelenting
>Enduring

Is there a reason to take any of these? Who cares about resistance to light when almost nobody uses a flashlight because they are shit? I would go so far as to call enduring the worst unique perk in the game. Saying "don't get stunned" is a better option. Monstrous Shrine feels worthless because usually they don't get out of the basement once you put them in. Unrelenting is too meh.
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>>151301527
reading this made me envision playing as a killer than can disguise as a hook and when someone comes to sabotage it, he hooks them
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>>151302758
Unrelenting is not really bad, Enduring really has no use if your not bad because you shouldn't let a survivor drop a pallet on you anyway but I guess it could be useful with Brutal Strength.

Monstrous Shrine is pretty useless unless your against a bunch of sabs I guess. Lightborn is completely useless unless flashlight gets a big buff, could possibly be useful if it helps a cloaked Wraith.

But yeah your right other than maybe Unrelenting there's just better perk options out there.
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>>151302758
Never
Roleplaying
Shit perk
If you enjoy watching people shit themselves as you eat pallets and recover literally half a second later. Brutal Strength combo is pretty fun
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>just want to play meg
>but I want the sabotage teachable
>so I need to level up jake
>but that'll take 30+ hours
>so I play hillbilly for faster points
>but now I want to keep playing hillbilly
>so I need to level him up to unlock perk slots
>but I want the wraith's teachable perks
>so I need to level the wraith for 30+ hours

I HATE THIS GAME
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>>151304517
>but I want the wraith's teachable perks
No you don't.
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>>151304517
Eh fuck teachable a. I just play the character that I want in use what I get. It's more fun that way.
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>>151304704
>bloodhound
>predator
>shadowborn
Yes you do.
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>>151304704
Making a tracking build sounds fun though. Sloppy Butcher/Deerstalker/Bloodhound/Predator. Maybe switch one out for Spies.
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>>151304879
>Shadowborn
FOV is barely boosted now. Not worth equipping
>Bloodhound
Only needed for shitters who somehow can't track someone who is moaning in pain
>Predator
This one actually has some use but I think I'll take better stuff instead.
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>>151304879
>perk for retards
>perk for retards
>shit
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>At max brutal strength destroys pallets 40% faster
>At the max you don't even save a full second
This is a good perk?
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>>151299573
This.

>>151298972
>knowing exactly where the killer is the instant he hits someone is shit
>knowing whether or not an injured survivor is still being chased is shit
>being able to find and heal your teammates anywhere on the map is shit
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Game just crashed while trying to find a game. Let's see how many pips I lost.
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>>151306946
Empathy is really underrated. I've been using it consistently since beta, it's useful for the reasons you mentioned, along with letting you see where survivors being carried are going meaning you know exactly where the killer is and can plan ahead or even get pallet drops on him. It's ridiculously good yet no one ever uses it.
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>>151305073
>FOV is barely boosted now. Not worth equipping
Still brightens everything, which is especially useful if they burn a dark moonlight offering. It's no longer a no-brainer, but still useful.

>Only needed for shitters who somehow can't track someone who is moaning in pain

Or people with shitty headsets/hearing. Or against players with Iron Will.
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>>151307405
Because Sprint Burst/Self-Care/Saboteur/Spine Chill is king. I may end up swapping saboteur for empathy though.
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>>151307675
Why not swap out spine chill instead? Saboteur is easy bold points.

>>151306946
Never thought about using empathy in such a way.
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>>151308028
Because you can't stand a chance against Wraith without Spine Chill or Premonition.
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>>151305894
Brutal strength is a must have perk. This is best combination.
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>>151307675
It easily outclasses both self heal and saboteur though, since you can get what those provide with items. People just don't like running items, or like the 100% efficiency for their medkit/toolbox. There is no replacement for sprint burst, spine chill or empathy though.

>tfw still running empathy 1 on a level 50 Claudette
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>>151308160
I can't for them to nerf Deerstalker. Maybe it will get me to stop playing this fucking game.
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what is with all these rank 1 killers camping?
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>>151309497
With the reset coming in a few days most killers aren't worried too much about their rank so they're just camping people who piss them off since the lost pip isn't going to be too detrimental overall.
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https://www.twitch
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4:40 to witness a prospective saboteur sabotaged
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>>151305120
Predator is great anon. If they're running Lightweight you can track them with 0 issues, and the tracks staying there for longer means you can find people who were careless with sprinting that much easier.
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>>151309497
What do you consider camping? Because some accuse me of it if I don't go to the other side of the map.
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Say hello to the faggot who sabotaged all of my hooks, and now has to wait four minutes to bleed out and lose his toolbox while I babysit him.
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>>151310185
Sweet justice delivered
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>>151236654
You can just break out of heals by holding shift, you dumb retard.
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>>151251218
>As a team based game
This nigga retarded. Everyone take a picture.
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>>151310185
>XD is the first person to die

all is right with the world
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watch out boys
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>>151313369
well i guess you don't have to watch out
i didn't take it and closed out of steam to get the screenshot uploader to pop up
it did, i saved the screenshot, posted it, rebooted my game, and now i'm suddenly level 5 with no saboteur. it just skipped the perk on my bloodweb and took me to the next level.
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>>151313785
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>>151313785
>shitter gets denied his crutch
pottery
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>>151313369
>>151313785

so there's a way to skip some items/levels for free?
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>>151313912
>>151313935
start watching out again, it popped up again at level 6

>>151314112
apparently so
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>>151253759
How are the Olympics going, Pedro? i'm sure you can see into the stadium from your favela.
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>>151313785
Kek, I'm sorry to hear that anon.
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>>151305073
They lowered the FOV increase from 20 degrees to 12, it's not particularly substantial.
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>>151310164
just saw one do a circle around a hooked person in a circle like 2 steps away from him the whole time
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Just had my first game where someone closet camped the entire game. He was waiting for the killer to pass by after the trapdoor opened and the killer found him. He only ended up with 200 bloodpoints was so satisfying to watch him die.
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>>151314112
It seems to happen pre-level 10 if you leave the bloodweb with one node unpurchased.
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>>151315338
i wanted to find out how much i would get for sitting a closet in the basement for the whole game until the killer came

havent done it though
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>burning a couple of pink moris before prestiging my billy
>rotten fields and thompson house on a row
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>>151310185
>>151309812

You guys get really salty about your hooks, eh?
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Hillbilly has the best run animation in the game. Trapper and Wraith are too stiff looking.
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>>151317001

Can't argue with that.
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>caught while powering on last gen with 3 of us left
>2nd meg gets chased near me a bit after i'm hooked
>3rd meg sits in the fucking distance crouching by what i assume is the hatch
>doing nothing
>eventually i die
>spectate
>the cunt has crows cawing above him, alerting trapper
>he gets to closest exit gate because lmao sprintburst
>it was opened and he could have easily just left but instead went for the hatch like a greedy cunt
>teabags at the exit, waiting for sprint burst to come off cooldown so he can entice the trapper into an attack before sprint bursting away

and people wonder why killers despise high ranks and dodge lobbies
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>>151316927
no, i don't care that he was sabotaging but rather that he was a twitchfag. i only bring up the saboteur because i saw i made him lose a sabotage toolbox
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>>151317001
>>151317328
I agree, but I think Trapper has a pretty menacing run even if it's kind of stiff. Wraith is the most odd, he seems more alien than anything.
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>>151267307
No hooks nearby? The hatch still does take a good couple seconds to open so you could theoretically have hooked one and come back swiftly to grab the other (few seconds where Entity gobbles up Survivor, game registers them as dead, then couple seconds before hatch opens).
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>>151300657
It doesn't work half the time. Devs, just give us the latency in the lobby dammit.
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Reminder if you're a faggot survivor who starts abusing loops, I'm going to wait until the gates are open then leave so you lose everything you earned.

Don't be a faggot.
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>>151321325
I'd say take your own advice there buddy.
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Killing a twitch streamer then going and watching his VOD of you killing him is so satisfying.
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>level 50 prestige 2 jake with a toolbox keeps joining my lobbies

Nice try
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>>151321404

>implying I care about losing a pip when I get 15k+ every game
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>>151303313
Enduring isnt that useful against bad survivors. Enduring is for those fuckers that dont drop pallets. The killer thinks hes a pro by stepping back slightly and..
. The survivor is half way around the pallet location. Congratulations you are set back 10 seconds as a killer for one pallet. Maybe more if the surv baits you into an attack and actually stuns you on the next rotation.
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Gotta love the Rank 1 Fuckboys that drag a game one 20 minutes+ after a match because muh infinites, and I want the hatch!
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>>151322684
None of that changes the fact that you get cucked by survivors regularly and have been reduced to a whining man any because of it.
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>>151322949

>implying it's not still easy to kill the retards who abuse that when you play trapper

I just leave because it's retarded and makes matches unfun and boring.
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>>151323241
Only one person in your games was so mad that they dc'd, and it wasn't the survivor who cucked you.
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>>151323678
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>>151239773
It's valid if it opens faster than the doors
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>>151313785
No one mention how to bring up the Screenshot Uploader in the game
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DID I REALLY JUST CRASH AFTER HOOKING THE LAST SURVIVOR

FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU v
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>>151317001
>>151317328
>>151319485
Trapper's is stiff-looking, but I actually love how menacing the slow walk is.

As a slasher fan, it's one of the special touches to this game that I love. Trapper is loosely based off of Michael Myers, who NEVER runs - always slowly walks to his helpless victim. (There's actually a notable scene in Halloween 2 where the protagonist, Laurie Strode, is at one end of a long corridor and Michael is at the other. Laurie is backed against the wall, ready to be slashed up, but Michael doesn't do that shit. He wants to savor it, the absolute madman. He walks over to her, not an emotion on his face, still at a normal pace. This gives Laurie enough time to escape through the elevator, though.)
Hillbilly is a very obvious parallel to Leatherface, though, who doesn't have time for that menacing slow walk bullshit. When he has someone in his sights, he doesn't calmly saunter over there. That's his dinner for that night, and he's not letting them get away. No, he fucking SPRINTS over there, chainsaw and sledgehammer in hand, ready to fuck up their whole life in a subtle satire of the meat industry.

So, in essence, I do agree that Hillbilly's run animation is the best. It's not only the smoothest, it's the most terrifying. But I still do love Trapper's slow walk, it's brilliantly menacing and a nice throwback to his roots.
Wraith is absolute and utter shit in every sense of the word, though.
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>>151318510
>survivorbabbies will defend this
Hatch is the worst bullshit to grace this game. I can live through awful matchmaking, I can tolerate the unnecessary Shadowborn nerf (still unnecessary as fuck, though), anything but the hatch.
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>>151330921
Git gud
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>>151331416
Says the one who needs the ultimate noob crutch to survive a match because "muh teammates are le problem"
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>>151330527
I like the trappers walk because like you said it was intentionally mimicking characters like Michael Myers and Jason Voorhees who always walked but somehow kept up with their victim.

The hillbillys run is great though, its also spooky as fuck when you see a hillbilly sprint past you with their chainsaw flailing in the air.
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Quality matchmaking system, stupid fucking incompetent devs. The only redeeming quality this game has is that it is a fresh concept

>get all gates open
>killer only managed to get a person on the hook, who was later rescued
>proceeds to rage quit

he was a wraith babby, go figure.
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>>151332278
>Only one person had spinechill/premonition
>Still can't get a single kill as wraith
Holy shit how can someone be that bad.
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I'd like to know who thought putting the offerings to decrease the mist and brighten the moon on survivor bloodwebs was a good idea. Just a complete waste theres no reason you would ever want to use them as survivor since it makes thing easier for the killer.
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>>151334767
Hello my name is Hillbilly and I would like to play this match on Autohaven Wreckers. I would also like one more sacrificial hook to keep Jake busy for 5 extra seconds.
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>>151330527
I dig the analysis and effort you put into it, you hit the nail on the head. Hillbilly can't stand the idea of anything being free since he was caged up for his entire life so he has to kill them as fast as possible.

I also love playing Trapper even if he isn't my best killer, simply because I know the look of his menacing pimpwalk and I like knowing I look like that
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>>151334035
How do you know it was a Wraith? Plus it looks like he was pretty new.

However, doesn't excuse a disconnect like a pussy
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>>151334767
Devs probably weren't thinking too hard about it. Like "brighter moonlight could potentially harm or help the survivors or killer!" as if it would make the killer easier to spot or something. Likewise, how the description of the dimmed moonlight offering says it like smiles or some shit and says "your secret is safe with me. or is it a grin?" implying some kind of dubious quality to the offering when it honestly only benefits survivors.
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>>151338102

He said >>151332278
>he was a wraith babby, go figure.
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>>151338432
The only possible downside for survivors is that it can make traps harder to spot. Same with more mist.
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>>151311929
>Spamming
>Body blocking
>The only thing you got out of that is that I didn't attempt doing so

Alright bud sure thing
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>>151338448
whoops i did not read sorry

adds up though
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Why do people try and impersonate twitch streamers. Was just in a game with a guy named Angrypug who obviously wasn't him. Makes you look like a faggot especially when you use a cancer streamer like that's name.
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>Wraith is using the wallhack addon

What's the fucking point
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>if a survivor leaves, killer gets points for sacrificing them
>if a killer leaves, survivors don't get points for escaping
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>>151342684
That addon makes stealth become null it is ridiculous.
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>>151343005
I think you might be retarded my dude.
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>>151343005
Devs say they might add 5k points for the survivors if the killer leaves when all the 5 gens are powered
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>>151344704
Thats a good one
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My main is trapper, and recently I unlocked insidious 1 when I reached level 41. My current perks are Brutal Strength 3 (I know it is not the best, but I use it a lot during chases, most of the time the survivors don't run away at first when they knock over a pallet, so I can fairly easily catch up with them), Agitation 3 (Not my first choice, but I only have Iron Grasp 1), Spies 3, and NOED 3. I traded out Agitation 3 for Insidious 1, and I have to say, if Insidious is THIS good at level one, what the fuck is it like at level 3? On my first game testing it out, I hooked a survivor, put down my bear trap, and then stood behind some hay and waited. It's the most overpowered perk I have ever seen. You can LARP as Wraith while playing as other killers with better abilities. Imagine playing as Wraith and using this shit. You could pretend to use your bell, but really just be standing still behind a wall, and they would just run up to the hook, oblivious. Why is this perk not talked about more? Do other killers hold my same opinion of it? Do survivors hate it?

I would also like to add that I don't play Wraith, and I most certainly don't usually camp hooks, but this is making it hard to resist the temptation.
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>>151343092
And my last game:

>rank 1 wraith unbeknownst to me
>any time he downs anyone, he just fucking facehugs them on the hook
>for the ENTIRE duration
>i manage to get 4 gens on my own in the meantime
>teammates got one before one gets grabbed while going for a stupid rescue
>other wraith just fucking sits there with his thumb up his ass camping them both when he finally treks across the map with IG3 to hook the second guy
>third guy caught
>down to me with 3 gens to go but i have 3 at 99%
>see him camping in the house, must be the hatch
>pop one of my furthest gens and try to hide in the corn
>NOPE LMAO WALLHACK
>downs me, hooks me

jesus christ i didn't think this game could make me this angry
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> About to crawl out from NOED
> pass the line
> he still picks me up
> cant wriggle off at all

Nice fucking game devs you shit lords
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>>151348881
You think THAT'S bad? Try having a pallet dropped directly onto you while carrying a survivor as a killer, causing you to get stuck in place, unable to move or break it.
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>playan
>get trapped, get out and a killer stun but downed immediately after
>trapper is bringing me to rape basement
>strugglan
>he drops me then picks me right back up
>i am upside down in his arms
>take screenshot but game crashes right after, don't think they saved
fuck i better not lose points for that
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>>151348153
I play mainly survivor, But I find killers that use this perk only get like level 20's any competent survivor checks the area around the hook for the killer, its a good perk but far from overpowered if you have a competent player.
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>>151348153
Insidious inherently encourages camping. It's not bad when utilized but you're better off with other skills.
My Trapper uses Crows, Brutal Strength, Deerstalker and NOED until I can get Iron Grasp 3, in which I'd get rid of NOED.
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>>151348153
>You could pretend to use your bell

There is no 'pretending' to use the bell. It makes an incredibly obvious map-wide whispering noise when you cloak and uncloak. You have to be a complete retard to fall for it and I don't even know why it's a perk option for Wraith.
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>>151349454
Fuck off ive seen killers not get stuned and tele 5 ft back after hitting you
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>last level before 50
>maybe it's finally time for tier 3 of a perk I always wanted
>get plunderer 3 instead

take me away prestige level... only a reroll can save me from this evil...
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>>151350941
Or just keep leveling.
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>>151351208

I'm going to prestige anyways, no point wasting levels. Even when there's no dailies I still end up playing on my lvl 4 meg. I want to see what rng brings me in the first fast bloodwebs.
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>>151350076
Again, I have never really played Wraith, so I thought that they could hear when you ding the bell and then stop, I don't fucking know shit my dude
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Why the fuck did I prestige?
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>>151351479
for a...bloody hammer i guess
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>>151351461
That's fine I assumed as much, that's why I didn't call you a retard or anything :^(
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>spend twenty minutes finding a lobby
>killer leaves lobby because one highish level player
>repeat for a million years
>finally get in a lobby
>lag is so bad that I'm literally being teleported in random directions as I run
>outjuking killer
>throw down pallet
>lag teleports to the other side where he is
>downs me
>hooks me
>asshole team let's me die

dude FUCK THIS
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who wants to play some SWF? chill people only, voice chat preferred
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>>151351802
What's your steam anon?
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>>151352172
steamcommunity.com/id/cucumberwater
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>>151352630
Well it's too late for me to play right now, but feel free to add me for some games tomorrow anon.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198166212653/
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>>151352929
That's chill.

I checked the discord and it seems pretty inactive currently.

Anybody else for some chill games?
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>all rank 1s join my lobby
>wait until the timer reaches 6 seconds
>close the lobby
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>>151354315
Are they planning on doing anything about this? I have a feeling once I get a half decent rank people are just going to nuke lobbys all the time.
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>>151353050
The discord is active wtf just more peoe have to join and actually stay instead of just logging off
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>>151354315
You are a shit joker man, kill yourself.
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>>151354428

from experience - the more people you put into discord, the faster the thread will die ( and we barely keep it alive anyways )

just let discord die
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Hillbilly's Mori animation should be changed to this scene from the original TCM: https://youtu.be/y33Fio8Ghpg

After this scene, that dude's girlfriend GETS PUT ON A MEATHOOK. Holy shit, this movie saw into the future.
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>shelter woods
>survivors getting reamed
>not 1 gen done and i'm down to the last guy
>except he's not working on gens but just eating literally every hook he can

STOP WASTING MY FUCKING TIME JESUS
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>>151355251
>that dude's girlfriend GETS PUT ON A MEATHOOK

Just watched that movie for the first time the other day and that scene made me smile.
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>>151355251
Is this the first one? Recommended? I'm starting to get into horror/slasherkino from playing this game. I've watched Wolf Creek 1 and 2 and I have a ton of movies on my list.
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>>151354626
Well just let you die
People in there still post on here fyi
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>>151356893
>I'm starting to get into horror/slasherkino from playing this game.
Same! This game has also gotten me into horrorkino.
Yeah, the one I linked is from the first one. HIGHLY recommended. 200% horrorkino.

I actually wrote up a list of my recommended slasherkino.
>Psycho (1960)
This is where it all began.
>The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974)
The atmosphere alone makes this horrorkino. It's also recommended because Leatherface = Hillbilly, and it's interesting to see the horror genre pre-Halloween.
>Halloween (1978)
Absolutely essential. It completely changed horror and basically made the slasher genre. Also, Michael Myers ~= Trapper.
>Halloween II (1981)
More optional than its predecessor. It exchanges gore for atmosphere. However, it is still Carpenterkino, and more of the original Michael Myers is always good.
>Friday the 13th (1980), Friday the 13th Part 2 (1981), Friday the 13th Part III (1982)
This is nowhere near essential horrorkino (Part III has 12% on RT). Conceived as a ripoff meant to cash in on Halloween. However, it is still culturally impactful, so you should still probably watch it. Warning: the first two are mainly to set up Jason's lore. He doesn't even get his mask until III, which is why I stopped it there. If you enjoy them (which you should if you don't go expecting an amazing film on par with the greats), then consider watching further. I've heard the series gets better.
>The Evil Dead (1981), Evil Dead II (1987), Army of Darkness (1992)
When Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell collaborate on anything, the result is guaranteed kino. When it is a horror movie, the result is horrorkino. When it is a horror trilogy, the trilogy is horrorkino, which is exactly what the Evil Dead trilogy is. Essential.
>the entire Wes Craven filmography, particularly A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
Wes Craven was a true horror genius in his life. A Nightmare on Elm Street is absolutely essential horrorkino, and his other films are highly recommended.
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>cowshed map
>sac 1 survivor
>go to hook a Jake I caught
>a toolbox Jake tries to pallet stun me, but I dodge at the last moment
>go around and realize that he sabotaged the hook I was going to
>other Jake breaks free
>wind up catching toolbox Jake just after the last gen is completed
>hook him near one of the gates, which has already been open
>pretend to go check the gate to lure out Dwight
>he takes the bait and goes for the rescue
>re-down Jake, then realize that it's the other Jake
>the toolbox Jake is glitched in the hook
>try to find Dwight
>don't want to go to far just in case Jake uses sabotage to escape the hook
>Dwight picks up the other Jake
>down Dwight
>put him on the same hook hoping the toolbox Jake will try to pull him off
>he doesn't
>Dwight dies and the other bolts
>now I'm stuck in a staring contest waiting for this fucker to quit
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>>151360547
Simple solution from the devs is to have the crows kill people at the 10 minute mark desu
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>>151361662
>The Entity grows tired of your bullshit
>At the 8 and 9 minute mark, a clock rings out while crows start to caw
>Finally at the 10 minute mark, they descend on the remaining survivors and perk them to death while the killer looks on
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>>151361662
>>151361969
I was thinking about this a few games ago actually, damn. Except it was more like, small chance upon spooking a crow that it starts pecking at you and shit and you take damage or something. Like half of an injured state, up to two halves, but you cannot be downed by the crow.

It's retarded I know but I like the idea of crows picking at survivors like a murder of crows or some shit. Or like the chickens from zelda
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>>151362656
That would make Calm Spirit a really great perk then.
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>>151362650
why tinkerer? i thought it only affects charge time and you're gonna be taking extra long to set those traps, invulnerable as they are
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>>151364217
http://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Tinkerer
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>your last remaining teammate sacrifices himself to keep the killer off you for just long enough to repair the last generator
>you somehow pull off the escape without the killer even seeing you

fucking godspeed, bitches
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Moral of this story kids: Thank JESUS for the Honing Stone

>Trapper
>Finally found someone with the help of my crow buds
>Fucking knocking over every pallet she comes across, actually waits at the next pallet in line just for me to catch up
>An onlooker might think we were knew each other and were just messing around destroying all of the pallets
>Finally down her, not even a fucking gen lit yet, these guys suck
>Place my trap, circle the perimeter to see if there are any Dwights trying to be an hero
>Some Jake runs right in front of me, trying to run interference
>I invented the interference game, I hit him and then circle back to the hook
>Someone is rushing the hook job, doesn't even care about my bear trap, just fees the cunt and gets trapped
>The first pallet person gets them out of the bear trap just barely, and then bolts
>HoningStoneInitiated.gif
>Hook the wannabe Dwight

That was the first half of the game, I just ran around scouting gens for a while, and the wannabe Dwight got of the hook at the last second

>Get one of the Dindu Twins (2 Jakes) on a hook in the basement
>Jake is sacced, wannabe Dwight is no where to be seen
>Hook someone else, bring em down to the hook
>Already had a bear trap there, so just hook them and then get the bear trap off of my leg
>The last of the Dindu Twins runs down right as I leave the house, so does wannabe Dwight
>Everything'scomingupMillhouse.mp4
>Hear them get Dindu #2 off the hook, they didn't fucking disable the bear trap
>Wannabe Dwight is caught in the trap yet again
>I think you can guess what happened next
>Jake #1 was already hit before, Jake #2 was just on the hook, and Dwight Wannabe is in the bear trap
>Hit Jake #2 as I am coming down the steps, hit Jake #1 as he tries to run past me

I don't know why you don't get extra points for hooking everyone in the basement, or at the very least an achievement.

Pic related, me hooking Jake #1
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>>151299895
>>151300132
>one of two left
>Killer takes me down and just starts to walk off
>gates suddenly go online
>Adrenaline 3 muddafugga
>literally stand up RIGHT BEHIND the Killer
>immediately run off
>he doesn't see me because limited FoV
>he doesn't hear me because he's so bloodthirsty
>doesn't even notice my icon change in the corner
>manage to leg it around to the entire other side of the map
>get a gate open and escape

Best survival, hands down.
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Its hard to tell if the flashlight really is bad or if I'm just bad using it. Trying to find the sweet spot is frustrating.
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>get a Billy who's obviously shit
>whacks one guy but loses him
>meanwhile we get 3 gens done
>get 2 more done whilst Billy is MIA
>gates are literally in sight of each other
>Billy decides to run between the two whilst revving
>instead of y'know, chainsawing between the two
>I've almost got one open when someone opens the other and escapes
>Billy fucking d/cs
>lose a pip

There's being shit, and then there's being utter fucking SHIT. Yes I'm mad, you don't d/c just because you're bad.
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>>151380193
>you don't d/c just because you're bad.
That is the best time to d/c especially when there are no consequences for doing so.
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>>151380346
But it's such a faggot dick move to pull. Lose graciously, or don't play the game if you're not going to properly play.
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>>151380078
>The flashlight is the best item in the game

t. Dave Richards.
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>>151380193
>playing against trapper
>he's chasing me
>throw down a pallet in his face
>killer stun
>he disconnects

we hadn't even gotten a single generator but that was enough for him to throw in the towel apparently
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>>151380707
Game probably crashed for him. Happens to me every time I forget to unplug my controller.
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Legit every game I've played for the past two days has been plagued by game ruining lag, makes it impossible as survivor when you're trying to be sneaky or juke out a killer
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Do moris just show up randomly or do you have to be a certain lvl for when they will show up
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Mm, yes, I like this game a lot guise.

Seriously, improve the matchmaking (even make a hard limit that you cannot party up with people more than like 5 ranks difference), or AT LEAST let us see the Killer's rank in the lobby.
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>>151383509
Randomly, just like any other offering. However, also like offerings, the higher level you get the more rare shit (such as moris) are likely to appear.
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Someone explain me this please.
I hook someone the moment the 5th gen comes on, gates are powered.
I take down two guys to dying state when they are trying to safe the hooked guy.
I'm too late for the third guy to save the hooked guy, they get away. I down the hooked guy again.
Now 3 downed survivors, one living.
I hit the last one and meg gets wounded but not downed.
I chase her around the map I spot the hatch. It's closed, somehow I lose her.
The 3 downed survivors gather near the hatch, meg heals two before I can get back there.
3 wounded but standing, 1 downed.
Two fucking escape through the hatch????
Meg still someone running around, being a good little survivor and wanting to heal the last one that is downed.
Last one that is downed crawls for the hatch, the moment she reaches it(I was waiting for her to jump and catch her) the hatch closes????
She dies less than two seconds later. Hatch opens again(this time it makes sense 3+ gens(5 actually) running and only meg wounded and still alive.

So when there were 3 wounded and 1 downed, 2 escaped through the hatch, then when the one downed reached the hatch it closed? And obviously opened again when there was only 1 survivor left alive.

Please someone explain me this hatch with 4 survivors.
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>>151385056
Got an other fun one, someone somehow mess up a skillcheck in the basement(idk how) I get there chainsaw him, he immediately disconnects the little fucker. Wasn't even two minutes in the game.

Fuck the fact that you can lookup other players as survivor with steam server player list but NOT as killer to trash talk their steam profile page.
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>>151385056
Someone must have used a skeleton key
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>>151320210
Of course not that's a Jake laying down there.

>>151385347
But would that explain the hatch closing again?
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I must be blind, because I don't see a perk anywhere in this bloodweb. Can a bloodweb generate with no perks on it? I'm still missing versions of most of the perks.
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>>151385747
Yes, Skeleton Key only opens the hatch for a short period of time. Also
>assuming every Jake has/uses Sab
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What is your solution to killer lobby dodging?

Hard Mode: you cannot say keeping survivor ranks secret
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>>151385889
Increase the cool down for making a lobby to a few minutes instead of 5 seconds perhaps?
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>>151385836
To be fair they're far more likely to be running it than not so its a smart thing to assume.
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>>151385889
Until the matchmaking is better I see no problem with it. As a rank 15, low level Killer myself I don't want to be memed on by a bunch of Rank 1s when I'm just trying to do dailies, sorry bud.
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>>151385985
You know what they say about assuming...
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>>151385993
I see your pain and I understand as somehow who mainly plays killer, HOWEVER-

As I'm getting into survivor, still like Rank 19, I'm realizing how lobby dodging ruins the game for legit everyone. It'd be one thing if a team of all Rank 1s joined, but I'll finally get into a lobby and killer will leave because of Level 15.

Repeatedly dodging lobbies until you get a room full of newbies to murder is just as scummy as sabotaging all the hooks.
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>>151385981
Yeah I think that would work okay, maybe increasing the time more and more each time you exit by like a few minutes?
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>>151385826

well that's a first... you probably didn't deserve it
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>>151386210
>sabotaging all the hooks
>scummy
It is literally a legit tactic, just part of the game. Do you cry every time someone solves a gen too?

Lobby dodging is actually scummy (unlike sabotaging hooks), however it's really not as bad as you make it out, as a highish rank Survivor main I still get plenty of games.
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>>151386105
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
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>>151386414
hey man no hate, I don't mean scummy like they're exploiting it, though I do think it needs more balancing.

Yes, you're right, it's unfair to compare them to some degree. You're lucky though, I'm low rank and can hardly get a match because a high rank joins and the lobby gets killed.
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>>151385889
Play killer, that is how I keep playing every game without a long lobby last month or so.

>>151386414
The problem is, toolboxes or t1 sabotage perk can be countered by Iron Grasp but t1 IG isn't good enough on a bigger map, you need t3 IG to counter anyone with time and a t1 sabotage perk, not even talking about a whole team with sabotage or t3 sabotage.

Also I would like to see added that killers can the hooks highlighted constantly while someone is downed, I don't want to pickup someone to see that there is no hook near and drop him again to just bleed to death.
Why not highlight all (working)hooks when there is someone downed?
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>>151387051
Because the secound you see one hook not highlighted anymore you could be there fucking them before that long ass animation ends
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>>151387356
You can see them when you're holding a survivor already, having someone downed allowing you to see hooks does make a bit of sense.
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>>151387051
I honestly think that there should be either a limit on how many hooks you can sabotage in a match, or there should be an alert when one is successfully sabotaged like with generators.
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>>151385826
Should've done your daily rituals, Anon.
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>>151387676
No that would be OP id be fine if they highlighted ones within a certain meter range near a downed survivor
>>151387976
Yeah the LOUD breaking noises isnt good enough for you isnt it
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>>151388256
It's still ridiculously risk free even with the breaking noises.
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>>151388310
No its fucking not you can literally hear them half way across the map i find jakes all the damn time from that git gud dude
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>>151388256
lol that shit ain't loud senpai
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>>151388567
get stereo headphones bro you can hear almost everything in the game
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I would really like to see both bigger and smaller maps. I'm not sure how much map size would tilt the balance in the favor of the killer/survivors but feel it could be offset with other design decisions.
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>>151388670
I use stereo headphones man, you can hear it if you're near the hook but if you're a little further away you can't hear shit. That's why you need the success ping.
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>>151388474
As a survivor main who has been using saboteur since a week after release, you are part of the 0.1% of killers who can pick that out from a distance beyond your terror radius. It's only unsafe if it's right next to a generator, otherwise it's fairly risk free.
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>>151388758
Turn your volume up then
>>151388805
I guess so but i can hear it from a good distance away even it its a small ding
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>>151388939
>turn up your volume
and get my eardrums blasted to shit by the chainsaw? no thx
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>>151385056
As if we needed any more proof that the hatch is OP bullshit.
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>when the dev calls dwight's loadout "perfectly balanced"

are we even playing the same game?
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>>151389064
>someone used his ridiculously rare item to escape via the hatch
>so op pls nerf

Will you ever stop crying?
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>>151389474
yeah I think the hatch needs some tweaking but he has a point, it's not like skeleton keys fall from the sky or anything
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>>151388992
Then Git Gud m8
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>>151389556
I have yet to even see one in my web and I've got just short of 170 hours played.
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>>151390217
Fuck the web. They seriously couldn't think of a better way to do things?
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unhook
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>>151385889
Unlock Iron Grasp 3 at level 1
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unhook again
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>>151399871
>puts on basement hook
>sets trap beneath feet
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GG Rank 1s you broke most of my hooks and bear traps before powering a single generator. Fucking morons
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Dev stream is live
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>>151400832
how'd you do it? relied on the basement?
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>>151401294
link?
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>>151401775
https://www.twitchDOTtv/deadbydaylight
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>>151380707
>match starts
>dingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdong
>I don't enjoy farming so what I usually do in these matches is just repair my gens and leave
>lo and behold, the rest of my team seems to have the same opinion
>after starting a generator we move on to another when the wraith shows up
>dingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdong
>most of us scatter, one of us just starting working away on a generator
>wraith stands over him while we works
>dingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdongdingdong
>he doesn't even look up
>killer disconnects

Why are you even bothering to farm if you have no interest in ever actually playing a match?
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>>151401595
Kek
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>>151401625
No I sacrificed two of them pretty early and they were being very altruistic. One of the remaining two sat close by the infinite while the other broke my shit around the map.
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>>151401882
>Hiding rank and level from Killers.

Ha ha good luck finding a single game.
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>>151403550
>>151401882
is that their solution to lobby dodging?
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>>151403728
Yep they are stupider than I thought.
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>>151403728
Also a 15 minute delay if you close a lobby after four people join.
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>>151403728
They're also making it so when 4 survivors are in the lobby, it locks down, survivors can still leave if they want due to bad ping, but killers can't

If the killer DOES decide to dodge still, they'll find themselves stuck behind a 15 minute timer :^)
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>>151404086
>>151404071
>>151403854
I don't like the no rank thing but I like the 15 minute delay, it's a pretty brutal punishment for those scrub killers
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>>151401882
>they're getting rid of the suffocation pit infinite juke
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>>151404071
>>151404086
That's a good solution for lobby dodging, if you ask me. At least they're getting some stuff right.
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>>151404370
By taking a harder approach more likely

Like the panic system one guy suggested
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>>151404485
Panic system? tell me more, tell me more
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>>151404370
>that filename
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>>151404485
I still stand by my statement that that system is absolutely retarded. Survivors should be rewarded for not getting caught for long periods of chase time, the maps need to be restructured, not the way chases work.
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>>151404627
Spend too long being chased, get a negative effect of some kind like a stumble or whatever
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>>151404086
>Lvl 1 trapper
>Get matched with 4 rank 1 lvl 50 inifijuking 4 perk Jakes
>Can't dodge anymore
Yeah this is a good system
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>>151405005
eh, don't love it, similar to >>151404653 I think they should just try to fix the maps
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>>151405349
BOO FUCKING HOO

THIS IS HOW SURVIVORS FEEL WHEN THEY GET MATCHED WITH LEVEL 1 KILLERS, BUT THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT

CRY ME A FUCKING RIVER
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Big patch coming in August according to devs
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>>151405556
So your solution is to make everyone equally miserable?
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>point balance to fix point farming

This can only end well
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>>151406131
Uh no, they plan on nerfing sabotage. I only play killer and I agree that hook removal is way OP but letting killers dodge because they'd rather kill level 20 babies is not a fucking solution. It ruins the game for everybody, high lvl or low lvl.
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>>151405556
>>151406335
How am I suppose to know when to use my limited add-ons now? I don't like to waste my good shit on baddies.
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>>151406863
that's why I'm super against not being able to see ranks, I like the 15 minute punishment but I think that part of the game is letting the killer pick his add-ons and offerings according to who joins the lobby
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>>151407058
I agree, now killers just have to burn it and hope it's not a waste. At least they can still see names so that they can dispatch twitchfags.
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Why not show rank color but not number? There's a range on that but it gives some idea of where they're at, also let survivors know the rank range of the killer so they can't complain.
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>>151407807
I really like this idea actually
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1/2
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>>151408395
What the hell is that weapon? A hacksaw?
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2/2
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>>151408532
yee boi

this sounds stupid as hell but in the stream they talked about playing with the idea of a killer who can remove objects from the map, creating more open spaces to see survivors
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After game chat is confirmed on one of the screenshots shown on the stream.
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>>151409942
>after game chat
I can't wait for people to call me a faggot and post screenshots here.
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>>151410049
>>151409942
fuck I'm going to get bullied so hard
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>>151410049
Yeah I'd rather they just kept it how it is. I like not having to deal with people being faggots over chat. Adding an after game chat is just going to have people bitching about you not saving them or shit talking against the killer. It adds nothing positive to the game.
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>>151405005

That is absolutely horse shit. The chase portion is already heavily in favor of killers. They have tracking abilities they can buff, they can hear us if we're injured, they already run faster than us. Vault timing have been adjusted so that they benefit the killer far more than a survivor in the middle of a chase. Lunging and auto aim makes actual juking pointless.

Why not just give me the ability to hook myself?
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got this gem from last night

an interesting technique. i "farmed" with him for a bit but then when i dragged him to the next generator and heard the hatch, i hanged him up as was my intent all along
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>>151408395
>>151408605

>hacksaw

Seriously? I mean I guess if you swung it hard enough you could deal damage to somebody. It just seems a little light compared to the crude homemade cleaver, the well-used cattle hammer, and the skull axe club. I would've definitely preferred that the hatchet/axe asset was for the next killer. You can still chop shit down and stuff.
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>>151408605
Oh shit nigga that's the new killer isn't it? That weird masked figure? Or maybe just a wraith skin.
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>>151411476
>they
>us

lol what is all this gay "pick a side" mentality i'm seeing is this thread like just play both roles don't only play one lol
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>>151412746
This pisses me off more than anything else. Go to the Steam forums see someone crying about op killers. Hundreds of hours played hasn't even touched killer more than a handful of times.
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>>151412746
Most people play both but naturally prefer one role over the other. So they consider themselves part of the camp of the role they prefer. It's pretty basic human instinct anon, not really all that surprising.
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>>151414390
>>151414762
Yeah but the best players will play both sides (even if one more than the other) to get a feel for how the game is played in every aspect. "Picking a side" is a misrepresentation of reality. I mainly play killer, but I don't say I "main killer" or some shit.

There are multiple games where I'll play survivor out of mixing things up for for a ritual and I'll get some scumbag fucking assdick killer. Or every lobby my friend and I join (both rank 14) has a 50% chance to be nuked by the pussy host. I love playing killer and I do my best to not be a dick unless the player deserves it, but there's a load of shitheads on both "sides"
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>>151411857
How's the Distressing working for you?
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>>151408395
>swinging a hacksaw
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>Generator in the middle of the corn field with corn right next to it
>Spend the last half of the entire match prepping this one gen
>Killer comes to investigate constantly
>Circle around the generator
>Nigga hasn't spotted me once even when he's looking straight at me

Corn OP
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>>151415319
>I do my best to not be a dick

Uhh don't play killer if you're not going to a dick. Might as well be a ding donging Wraith farmer.
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>>151415319
That is true, I've played quite a bit of killer to see how they roll, what they're looking for and how survivors can give themselves away/how obvious some things are for the killer. Ive probably player around 15 of 170~ hours with killer, and it definitely improved my survivor play, however I find the role to be a bit boring in comparison. I prefer the thrill of being chased and the tenseness of hiding. It's much more rewarding to do things as a survivor than as a killer for me. So I consider myself a survivor, even though I've sunk a decent amount of time into killer. (But no points past 8000 to get their level 1 perk on each of them).
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>>151415572
>level 26 Meg with sprint burst 3 and self care 2
You're a lucky one.
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>>151415851

My easiest character had to have been the Dwight I leveled. I got sab and self-heal early.

I didn't get Dwight's perks until level 30
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>>151415341
i like it now that i've been fucking with it more. it can really disorient the survivors and keep them scared off of gens and the extra deviousness points are great. i think pairing it with unnerving presence is okay but i had a lot of success with the perk setup in that screenshot and i feel like unnerving presence is pretty bad

it doesn't really give the survivors a good heads up that i'm on my way because i'm usually chainsawing at them regardless.
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>>151415641
Well, by not being a dick I mean not like facehug camping. I don't know, there aren't really a lot of ways you can be a dick as a killer that require you to go out of your way. Trapping hooks is kind of dickish but I think that's less dickish than just staring deep into their eyes and waiting for them to bleed out with your thumb up your dickhole. And infinite picking up and dropping has been done away with.
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>>151416531
>Trapping hooks is kind of dickish

Wow what a fucking gaylord. I hope I don't ever play against you I might fall asleep.
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>>151412746

What, did I not use the proper pronouns? Did I trigger you? What difference does it make if I changed they to killer and us to survivors you dumb shit?

I've played both sides and got a clear perspective of what to look out for and what not to do when I play one or the other. Finding survivors is the hard part. Chasing them is easy as fuck. It''s just extra points until they go down.
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>Spectate
>Exciting hatch gameplay
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>>151417254

Dwight, no
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>>151416813
What do you mean? I won't usually trap a hook unless I know that a survivor is nearby, or I know that the survivors are prone to ballsy rescues. I'd rather trap in nearby tall grass or at a pallet/window.
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>>151417254
>>151417460

>he got trapped
>over there

He deserved it
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>>151417460
Please tell me he did that on purpose and they're farming, otherwise that's pretty sad.
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>>151417913
Rank?
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>>151415641
Speaking of ding dong wraiths, did that anon ever manage to record him lulling survivors into a false sense of security before using a mori on them all?
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Can you name a better feeling than escaping the killer's grasp as he's about to take you to the basement hook and escaping through a gate?
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>>151419106
Flashlighting a killer just as he picks someone up right by the opened exit.
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>>151389406
Balanced compared to the other survivor's perks being fucking broken as shit to the point where the optimal loadout is literally all of them and spine chill / premonition, maybe.

Also I can't get this fucking daily for the life of me, it's just heal 4 dudes but not a single fucking person seems to be able to escape from the killer
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>>151404485
this is fucking terrible
this punishes survivors for being good
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>2 disconnects and one early kill
>Only 1 generator done
>On the wide open farm map against a Hillbilly

Thankfully, this Hillbilly was kind enough to spare me and show me the hatch.
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>>151418551
rank 1

I mostly play Hillbilly nowadays though.
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>>151419106
finding this guy camping the hatch for so long that crows point him out, bodyblocking him while revving chainsaw and then dirtying him up with its rancid chains before hooking him. followup of carrying the bloodied crawling dwight to the hatch as a final fuck you to the asshole jake for letting him die
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>>151420742
Body block for a guy once he's been hit while running empathy, lose the killer once he swaps to you, and then find the guy and heal him.
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>>151421083
>Deerstalker killer complaining that the last survivor didn't try to save the downed guy
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>>151420868
>Thankfully, this Hillbilly was kind enough to spare me and show me the hatch.
I end up doing this pretty often when its down to one person. By the time I've killed 3 people I already have more than enough for a pip and if I felt the survivor put up a good fight or played really well I'll show some Mercy.
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>>151389406

Dwights perks are balanced in the sense that they directly aid the survivor team. They promote teamwork in a game where the other survivors are busy taking down hooks on their own and just outright trying to avoid each other.

Sabotage doesn't really save anyone unless you're actively going after the problem spots rather than just looking at them as free points. Removing a hook by a completed generator sure as fuck isn't going to save the team when the remaining generators are by a bunch of hooks you ignored. Not to mention Iron Grasp basically counters them.

Self-Heal and Sprint only benefits the immediate user.
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I just won a 1v1 against a wraith baby hookcamping shitter.
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Hoo boy I sure love waiting five minutes for people to bleed out every single match because there are no hooks left in range and it only takes 2 (TWO) fucking generators to open the hatch
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>>151421326

Yeah, seriously

What the fuck is he suppose to do? It's not like it's impossible to tell who's rolling deerstalker.

If he did make the attempt you'd probably just call him an idiot for even daring to make the attempt.
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Why are high ranked survivors assholes? Lots of teabagging, infinite jukes and whatever.
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so the old best perk layout for killers was NOED, iron grasp, shadowborn, and deerstalker
what's the new best layout? iron grasp and deerstalker are still up there, shadowborn is ass now, NOED is more of a gamble instead of an always take. what are we thinking f a m? maybe iron grasp, deerstalker, brutal strength, but i'm not sure about the fourth. predator, bloodhound, or NOED could all be it.
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>>151421481

The hatch system needs to be revised entirely.

I'm thinking that the hatch is something that needs to be unlocked with a key. Once you've activated enough generators, the hatch spawns but it doesn't unlock. A key spawns randomly somewhere on the map (landmark, by the exit gate, basement? Maybe a random generator?) that's stored in your inventory. The lock for the key doesn't appear until only one survivor remains. There's only one key however.

If the survivor carrying the key dies or is sacrificed, he drops the key next to his corpse. The killer is unable to see the drop in order to discourage camping but to the survivor it'll shine nice and brightly. Once the key is obtained, the lock on the hatch appears and the survivor can attempt a hatch escape. He has to use the key to unlock it and open the hatch and escape.

In theory, this should prevent survivors hatch camping and stop Mexican stand offs. If the killer arrives at the hatch and notices its not open or the lock has yet to spawn, he knows the remaining survivor doesn't have the key yet and can't escape through the hatch so he can continue his search. If the killer wishes to just camp though, that's his loss. That just gives survivor the distraction needed to get the remaining gens.
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>>151422665
Iron Grasp
Deerstalker
Spies from the Shadows

For the last slot you can take anything. Brutal Strength and Bloodhound are good choices, and so is Insidious if you can use it right.
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>>151411857
Hoły shit that was me..hahaha i wanted you to kill me asap because you rekt the team pretty fast and I was lagging. Thanks for letting me fix 2 gennies before killing me. I loved how when I was repairing a 2nd generator I fucked up a skill check and you immediately came and was like "bruh"
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>>151421326
>>151421665

deerstalker is just too good to pass up, and it's perfect to counter shitters who want to camp the hatch. why wouldn't i use it? camping the hatch is fucking lame and the perk enables me a bigger window to get the 2500 deviousness

though it was more about punishing the guy for being a retard and staying in one place, allowing the crows to point him out.

besides, if someone has been laying around long enough they can recover and then get revived in an instant. jake didn't bother trying that or going for a generator but settled for sitting on the hatch for minutes on end until the crows got bored
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>>151422908
sorry for the Å‚ag man. you gave me a few laughs and chuckles, i felt a little bad for killing you but i figured i had to break you in
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>>151387051
How about this
>three tiers of hooks
>ones big
>ones medium
>ones small
>the big ones are impossible to sabo, there are 2 or 3 in the entire map and 4 in the basement
>mediums can be sabo'd but sacrifice slightly faster
>the small ones sabo times are cut in half but so are the sacrifice times
>they are randomly generated except the basement ones which are always big ones
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Agree or disagree?
It's easier to get two pips in a match as high rank survivors vs high rank killer than it is to get two pips as high rank killer vs high rank survivors.
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>>151423572
Why make it so complicated? Maybe all but two can get sabotaged that way you really need to think before you randomly sabotage a hook that is already close to the basement.
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>>151424010
Agree, rank 1 killer and still haven't gotten a single 2 pip match.
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>>151423572
>>151424226

This is just a really shitty bandaid on top of a system that already exist.

The issue is saboteur itself. Just fucking make it still require a toolbox in order for it the ability to work. A finite amount of hooks can be sabotaged at that point rather than all of them.
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>>151424226
>>151424909
I just wanted to add some variety to the same old hook system
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What the fuck was up with that dev stream? With all the teasing they were doing I was expecting the update with the new killer to come today.
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If the killer is within a 36 meter radius of a hooked survivor Dwight gets a gun.
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>>151425762
There a bunch of cunts thats why
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hit a tree while chainsawing and went airborne
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>>151409007
>killer Jake

Might be cool, I guess.
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>>151409942

Well, I guess that might take some of the sting out of being punished for my suicidal altruism. Assuming anyone ever uses it to say "Thanks," that is.

>>151412746

I'd play Killer if my upload speed weren't so shit.
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>>151424010

There's absolutely no disagreement possible here. The killer has to have a beyond perfect game in order for them to pip up twice.

You can't sacrifice the entire team right away because then you don't get any points in the other categories. Brutality is already impossible to come by unless you intentionally set up a play date with your food and the food's friend.

Survivors can max out everything easily.

Someone hurt? Heal them, easy alturism points. Hell, you get some yourself with self-heal. Objective points are easy to come by and a map with tracking makes it into a joke. Escaping maxes out surviving. This is pretty much the Sacriface equivalent, except you don't even need the other 3 chuckle fucks to max out this stat. Bold can be grinded with sabotage or infijuking.
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Am I allowed to hook camp in this scenario without survivor cucks getting upset?
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>>151417254
And survivorshitters say the hatch isn't bullshit.
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You can wait motherfucker. Meggy's getting her struggle points.
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>>151426876
>coal burner hair
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Crawling to the basement and struggling paid off.
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>>151416531

I wouldn't worry too much about trapping hooks. If you fuck off (and I mean actually fucking off, not waiting just outside of terror range), you'll make things more interesting for the survivors without it being straight-up frustrating. It's also a good way to stumble upon survivors who assume you're still camping the hook.

Actually, just moving around a lot is a good way to pip up even if you don't kill anyone. I like those games, I know everyone's had a good time.
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>>151421481
>survivorbabbies will defend this
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>>151419106

A crawling escape with the killer stomping up behind you is pretty fine.
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>>151427021
What?
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>>151423572

That makes the game even more unpleasant for newbie survivors than it already is.
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>>151427931
was just spitballing senpai
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>>151427236
>I know everyone's had a good time.

Stop playing killer you make the game boring as fuck.
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>>151428084

They're getting their exercise. I'm still hooking plenty of people, I'm just not making it a one-and-done.
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>>151428081
god i hate that fucking filter
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>>151427021

>Not liking short hair
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>4 jakes and 2 toolboxes
>equip ebony mori i've had saved
>jake thinks he's being clever

hhhehehehe
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>>151427021
>stock image
>guy looks like a gay pornstar
>meant to be some kind of cowboy
>not even using a revolver

my sides
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>>151427363

>Killers will defend this
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>>151428084

The fuck are you talking about? If anything he makes th game entertaining because now I have some god damn hope that I can rescue my survivor team
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>>151428706
MAY I SPEAK WITH YOUR ENTITY PLEASE?
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Why does hatch give more points than a door escape when it's a consolation prize for the last man in a shit team?
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>>151430179
Probably designed without everybody memorizing the spawns in mind.
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>>151428914
>>guy looks like a gay pornstar
How would you know that?
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>>151429205
Fuck off idiot
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>>151288438
Good on ya m8.
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>>151430634
google gay pornstar and tell me he doesn't look like one
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>>151430179
Because the survivorbabbies who can't git gud in /dbdg/ would throw a hissy fit otherwise.
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Man, I wish I had a higher level Deerstalker.
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Being able to permanently destroy traps remains bullshit. Why are they ok with removing Trapper's secondary power?
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>>151432317
The first level of it is barely usable. By the time it picks them up you'll already be within hearing distance of their cries.
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>>151432704
Game balance does not seem to be this dev's forte.
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So what's with this game and matching me against rank 20s when I play billy? First double pip though.
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>>151252553
KEK
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>>151428084

Pictured: a boring as fuck game.

I must have hit this Good D fella enough time to butcher a cow. Fortunately for him his Jake was wearing his favourite orange jacket in a cornfield on a new moon. Too bad the Meg and one of the Claudettes weren't nearly so good at hiding.
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>>151433985
Too many survivors for the amount of killers despite it already only needing 1/5 of players to play killer.
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>>151432704
I hate this shit so much. If you don't have anti sab shit on your traps survivors will just walk all over you.
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>>151433985
Never happens to me. I may occasionally get a rank 20 but they'll still be level 30 or so.
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>>151434302

Fuck, of course I would forget the image.
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>just want to play Hillbilly
>Have to get him another 20-30 levels for him to be playable because of the stupid perk system
>Can't play more than one survivor match every few hours because almost every single killer is a Wraith with the same playstyle so every game is exactly the same
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>>151435570
You don't need perks to play a killer, just try it man.

I get a bit of a rush when I prestige because I usually save up 500k BP and then dump them all into my prestiged killer, excited for what shit perks I'll get and being forced to try new things to make the best of them.
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>>151435570
Level 1 hillbilly gets more bloodpoints than a level 50 survivor. Much faster, too.
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>>151431523
Why would you google gay pornstar anon?
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>>151435961
>You don't need perks to play a killer
Yes, you do. You need Iron Grasp level 2 at the least.
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>>151432782
>down third survivor in grassy area
>see fourth survivor
>abandon third survivor, chase the other
>hook him
>go back to grassy area

>no idea where survivor is because tall grass is tall
OR
>pick up survivor like the Dwight bitch he is and throw his ass on the hook because Deerstalker told me where he was
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>>151437636
>use 3rd survivor as a speed powerup to hunt down the forth because you're rolling agitation and iron grasp
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>daily ritual
>kill a survivor with your own hands as the killer you have at level 1
>for 8000 bloodpoints

w h y
h
y
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>>151436210
it was a prank to make it seem like i did and to implore you to do the same when in reality i never did
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>>151437140
I'm rank 1 and play without it just fine. Hillbilly is best for blitzing the survivors, and if you do that effectively they'll be scattered and scrambling to get gens done because you're a chainsaw powerhouse and you've already put 1-2 on a hook. The pressure you can apply as Billy is enormous.
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>>151439678
>it costs typically 8k for a mori, 5k if you're lucky or have a high level bloodweb
>net gain of 3k BP

th-thanks devs
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i sent my dwight boypussy fanfiction to the devs, i hope matt reads it, the fuckboy.

now i need to make up one for meg, i think she should be getting railed by the hillbilly.

thoughts?
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>>151441650
Maybe if you've got add-ons you can chainsaw people quick, but competent people don't get downed by it otherwise.
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>>151432704
>>151434731

I remember this one idea posted a while back that a sabotaged trap would look like a plain old regular trap to the trapper player. If he picks it up, there would be a slight stun comparable to a palette drop and it would highlight his position to the other survivors for a short amount of time.

Having Endurance equipped would lessen the effect of the stun and cut the reveal time.

There was something similar in place with the hooks. Sabotaging them wouldn't remove them from play. It would just increase the survivor's chance of escape by a ton and even have a rare occurrence of the hook breaking the moment a survivor is hooked. The hook coming down would land on the Killer's head and temporarily stun him.
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>>151437140

>needing Iron Grasp as Billy

If you don't down half the team within the first minute of play, then you ain't doing something right.

The dead can't sabotage hooks.
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>>151427883
that's the classic "i'm white but my kids aren't" haircut
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>>151439678

>Finally get a Morti to clear the daily ritual off my Wraith
>It's a shitty Ivory one where it only works on the final survivor
>Down the last Claudette
>HOO BOY! HERE IT COMES! HERE IT COMES!
>She DCs
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>>151442814
Nice meme. Chainsawing someone without add-ons (which you can't bring every game) is nearly impossible because they can keep throwing pallets down and hopping.
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>>151443280
>Chainsawing someone without add-ons (which you can't bring every game) is nearly impossible

I only play Billy when the game throws a Billy Daily Ritual.

He's level 1, has no perks, no offerings, no add-ons, nothing.

I drop fuckers like flies.

Get good.
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>>151443483
You're playing against rank 20s then. Even half decent players won't get chainsawed until every pallet on the map is down.

This goes for me too, I almost never get chainsawed and when I do they have add-ons.
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>[Muffled snap in the di-[Second muffle snap in the distance]
>I'm using a honing stone
Popped a stiffy.
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>>151443483
Let me see some screenshots of you taking down ranks 1s.
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>>151442058
I don't always use Primer Bulb. I have a limited supply and save them for when I want to burn Deviousness offerings. Regardless, the whole point is to arrive at a generator completely unannounced via the chainsaw charge and to scare their shit. Then, if possible, you chainsaw one down and hang them up. Otherwise use your hammer. The chainsaw is an amazing tool for patrolling generators and denying survivors the ability to work on them out of fear of your loud, nasty wrath.
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>Hear Jake messing with a hook
>Chainsaw and hook him
>Fake leaving
>Meg pulls him off so i smack him down immediately again
>She does it a second time so i made Meg indirectly help me kill him
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>>151443963
Pretty sure that's something Trapper would do too.
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I can't wait wait for that new update. Everyone is gonna be rank 1 a week after.
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https://www.twitch.
tv/jakethemon/v/83070873?t=0s

2:40:35 if you want a giggle
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Apparently getting a lucky hook bounce chainsaw on me means he needs to body block my hook. The joy of being rank one.
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>>151448214
The hell is a lucky hook bounce chainsaw?
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>>151448214
Two injured and one gen up. Why should he leave?
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>>151445434
>Then, if possible, you chainsaw one down and hang them up.
This is the problem, you see. It's the start of the round. I can rush over to their generator, but then I have to chase them through pallet town and have them jump windows.

If the rest of the team is decent they'll have 3 gens ready by the time I catch the guy.
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>>151448313
He bounced off the hook to hit an angle that he wouldn't have been able to turn to normally.

>>151448512
>bodyblocking to completely prevent unhooks is okay
no
There's patrolling and then there's camping and then there's this. You can't unhook the guy through him, he just sits there. I told the guys playing to not bother with me since he put me on the hook and basically went afk in my face.
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>>151448787
>I told the guys playing to not bother with me since he put me on the hook and basically went afk in my face.

SWF and they only got one gen up? That is just sad.
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>>151448719
Not every map is Pallethaven my dude. Obviously the farm maps are amazing for Billy, but you can still swing wins on the others. Don't waste all your effort on one guy, too. If you get a hit on him, great. If you down him, perfect. If you spend too long chasing after one person you're just enabling the survivors. Let him go if he's extremely good at juking or keen on wasting as much of your time, and just chainsaw off to another gen. The longer they stay in the game, the lower their chances to survive. Once they get 2 gens done, you want to focus on 3 that are closely placed together.
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>>151449692
>Not every map is Pallethaven my dude.
It is when you're playing Hillbilly.
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>>151448787
>communicating with other players
>complains about the killer
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>>151449541
>>151449886
They're rank 20 level 1s in their first match online.
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>>151450352
Even more of a reason to camp the rank 1. Get the problem child out of the way and toy with the rest.
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>>151449769
Buy and burn them cattle tags then or just keep practicing. Anticipate if they're going for the pallet and rev your chainsaw early to eliminate it asap. Sometimes you'll even get lucky if they're a retard palletcamper and they drop it wrong and are on your side, receiving a chainsaw. Or, they wait too long and you just saw them. Also you know about the sightlines or whatever on maps that have lots of clutter right?
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>>151450352
Forgot my pic
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>>151450584
camping =/= bodyblocking
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>>151450825
Does it even matter? Especially with the Hillbilly? I could stand 10ft away with the chainsaw revved and they won't touch you.
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>prestige 3
>level 50
>rank 20
mmhmm
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>join lobby
>killer disconnects
>no games found
>no games found
>no games found
>join lobby
>killer disconnect
>no games found
>no games found
>no games found
>no games found
>no games found
>join lobby
>killer disconnects

holy fuck when is the penalty being put in
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>>151451068
It is entirely different yes. One is a legitimate tactic and the other is cheese.
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>>151451297
Right after the devs fix the perks that defeat the entire purpose of the game. Nice try, level 50 Jake with a toolbox. Not today.
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Do you think killers will dodge lobbies when I join them with a prestiged lvl 1-10 Dwight? Rank 15-20.
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>>151432704
>not using unnerving presence + distressing on trapper

with addons I'm hearing booms left and right, use your head, guy.
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>>151451728
I will. Prestige Dwights are always the most cancerous players. The sort that infinijuke, lag all over the place, and then send you hate messages regardless of the match outcome.
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Hillbilly is such fucking garbage. Not only is it impossible to chainsaw a half competent player, but his lunge has less range and takes longer to perform than the other killers, so infinijuking is easy.
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>>151453770
Kill yourself Wraith shitter
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>>151455197
I didn't play Wraith before playing Hillbilly, I played Trapper. It was nice to actually be able to hit people who try to leap through windows.
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>>151453770
>infinijuking is easy
Actually, it's impossible, because they will already be dead to my chainsaw before they make it to a juke point.
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>>151451728

I just realised that prestige also removes all offerings... I haven't been using any... time to go all out till 50.
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>>151455643
Nice meme.
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>>151420868
>>151421335

What do you think is the in lore reaction to these situations?

Do you think Dwight prays he encounters a friendly Wraith?
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>>151452070
>just faced a prestiged Dwight who used new infinite on coldwind
>added him after to call him a pussy
>defends himself saying it's not 100% like the bus or coal tower
>says "shrug guess ill jsut sit in the open on a map with very few pallets gl bro"
>blocks me
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>>151456621
Why are you posting yourself getting rekt?
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>>151421335
In my experience the last one standing tends to be the sort of scumbag that infinijukes, and breaks hooks near the completed generators + near the basement while everyone else is providing a distraction that could be used for fixing generators. They're also the sort who will do 30 minute standoffs over a hatch instead of just powering the generators and escaping. No mercy.
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>>151456773
He ran for this same spot every time I spotted him. It's fucking bullshit and impossible to catch a survivor who knows how to abuse the route at these spots.
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>>151457161
Except it's not
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>>151457291
It was a colossal waste of time to try and play his game of ring-around-the-rosy and just following the same shitty loop. They always have vision on you and can keep you occupied forever in said loop. Do you even know what I'm talking about? Have you ever even played against what I'm talking about or are you just being a contrarian dick?
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>>151458383
I think he is one of the retards that thinks the devs are perfect and fixed all of the infinijukes

I bet he also supports the nerfing of shadowborn and NOED3
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Me and Jake just shaking our heads at each other while he sits on top of the hatch

I eventually let him go by walking away far enough so that he knew I wouldn't try nuffin, he was a real bro
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>>151458981
They nerfed NOED the wrong way. It should be a timer until it activates, not a timer until it deactivates.

>>151459232
Nobody who does a hatch stand-off is a bro.
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>>151459232
Bait them by pretending set a trap on top of it and then grab them when they make run for it.
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>>151458383
No, you're just bad.
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>>151459682
Sure thing buddy
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>>151461205
Glad you're accepting and moving on pal.
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>>151459232
>>151459541

There's really not much you can do once a stand off starts.

There's gotta be something to prevent a stand off from occurring. Maybe the survivor actually has to open the hatch by holding down M1. Maybe give the killer the ability to close it again so that the survivor is forced into having to reopening it.
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>>151462236
I think the best way to prevent hatch standoffs is to remove the hatch.
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>>151462489

That's complete horse shit and you know it. What the fuck is a survivor with a shit team suppose to do when it's him versus a killer and 4 gens to go?
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>>151462687
Probably stop blaming their team for their shortcomings.
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>>151462943
Epic meme. It's not possible for one player to power up generators all by himself. The killer can just patrol and notice the differing completion rates and can eventually find even the stealthiest player.

Put your salt away and advocate sensible solutions.
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The obvious solution is to put a super long tunnel under the hatch that the player has to run through. The player can go down, but he can't go back up. The killer can go in and out as he pleases. As soon as you go down there though, the entity alerts the killer.

It's like an extreme version of the exit gates, but with a hard commit and a long journey. If you go down there, that's it. No more hiding. You better pray the killer isn't nearby because he will catch you.

I'm not being serious
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>>151461543
fuck off buddy and stop responding
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>>151463326
(;
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>>151463239
...which goes to show that this is a team-based game. It stands to reason that it would be harder to complete a team-based game without a competent team.
Also, what system distinguishes between a good survivor stuck with a shit team and a shit survivor stuck with a shit team? Because both can use the hatch.
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>>151463850
Nobody is defending the hatch in its current state. Stop strawmanning.
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>>151463326
Gosh, you sure seem upset guy.
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>>151463620
>>151464514
discontinue replying to my posts please i beg of you
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>>151464868
put on a trip
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>>151464868
If you don't want replies then don't reply friend.
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Let's see what we can do eh?
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>>151466173
Didn't know crows would start circling a survivor who wasn't wiggling.
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>>151464868
(;
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I AM SO FUCKING TIRED OF PLAYING AGAINST CHINESE WRAITHS
THIS IS SO FUCKING UNFAIR
FUCKING CHING CHONG DING DONG FUCK OFF
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>>151466983
Were they circling before you picked him up? They follow the survivor around for a bit once they move.
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Iron Grasp 1 Spies 1 or Deerstalker 1 for Billy
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>>151472040
Iron Grasp. Spies and Deerstalker are excellent but not at rank 1.
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>>151472452
I know but those are my only choices in terms of a single, low level billy perk. The ladder is Monsterous Shrine
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>>151473008
Iron Grasp is pretty much essential for any build, so just use that. When you get more perk slots feel free to use both spies and deerstalker.
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Unhook
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>>151475862
insidious
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>>151476832
distressing
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Why do people love to vault that window above the basement on Rotten fields? Pretty much a 100% chance of getting a snippy snap even when I'm nowhere near.
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>>151412057
>skull axe club
It's obviously a scythe, you moran.
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>>151478490
Do you know what a scythe looks like? Scythes are curved, you nincompoop. Scythes aren't even weapons, you dunce fart.
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>>151411857
This is actually what I prefer Killers do when I surrender myself to them. If I'm last alive and I come out offering a peace treaty, that's me saying "gg wp, I can't actually win this one", and I feel slightly bad if the Killer doesn't sac me. Even if it's something like shit teammates that have left me with 4 or 5 gens to complete, or I have no idea where the hatch is, I still feel like the Killer deserves the points.
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>>151478736
Do you know what a club looks like?
Pro tip: They don't have blades.
Do you know what an axe looks like?
Pro tip: They have an axe head (not a blade) that projects out perpendicular to the shaft for hacking, not slashing.

Wraith's weapon, whilst unusual, is most similar to a stereotypical video game-y scythe or grim reaper scythe, in that it has a long blade curving slightly back down towards the user's hand.

>Scythes aren't even weapons
Now you're looking like a real goober. Historically, sure, but all kinds of media have bastardised the scythe to show it as a weapon.
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swf broken?
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>>151479429
It's called "Azarov's Axe" you fucking penis breath.

It's a blend of all three, take it or I'm leaving.
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>>151479634
It sure is
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>>151479634
I can't get into any games; either as survivor or make a lobby as killer. I think the servers might be having issues. Also, I got another bloodweb with no perk.
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>>151479708
Wtf happened?
i cant do KYF either
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>>151479634
i can't find a match alone or create a lobby as a killer, i think something with the game is dicked
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thanks montreal
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Maybe they're doing some fuckery to prepare for the alleged patch tomorrow?
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>>151479670
[Citation required]
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Survivors who refuse to leave after the gates are open need their skulls caved in.
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panic
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I have a serious problem with the wraith. On one hand, we've got people who go about "If you're good you won't get found by sneaky" Yeah sure that's a valid point but when the wraith as the ability to grant him a 8+M aura that allows him to see through walls that point is kind of null ain't it?
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>>151479908
Nigga look at it in the fuckin' game. Click Customize on the Wraith and then look at his weapon.
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Met my first point farming Hillbilly yesterday. Sad times we live in.
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>>151480158
I'm not actually surprised, it was named by the people who actually think the flashlight is viable.
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>>151480384
I'm still right by technicality.
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>>151480351
Maybe he just doesn't want to hurt a group of cute Megs?
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literally a dead game
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>>151481335
nigga it's 4:20 on a worknight
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>>151481693
no, the game isn't working. actually not working.
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>>151481805
oh true, but i think it's an issue with steam

evolve is broken too
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>>151481805
Does anyone know wtf happen did those fuck tard devs spill coffee on the servers?
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Welp, I figured out how to grab people while taking people off hooks.

I'm also glad I get a bonus for disconnects.
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>>151482061
>>151481805
>>151481693
>>151481335

Yep, steam server issue.
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>>151482819
>tfw survivors disconnect early or some weird shit after you've hooked them for the final time and you get the bonus points for free

pacha hillbilly
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Anyone got that visual bug where the wraith is invisible while uncloaked?
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Alright what the fuck is up with the sudden influx of 4 Rank 1 LV50 Jakes played by Chinese.

I swear these fuckers were the most tight knit group I've ever seen and each one of them seemed like they had a fucking mastery over pallets. My poor Billy had no chance.
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>>151463325
Dat picture tho

>Miner killer
>Can never see his face because the light is always on and bright as fuck illuminating shit in front of him
>Pickaxe attack that has a very wide swing
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>Ending hatch stalemates

Just make the fucker not open until interacted with, opened in like 5 seconds tops. If it stays open too long, it closes again.
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>>151487569
Then the Killer just camps hatch and gg. If you go do a gen the Killer has an automatic bead on your location, but it's not like you have a choice anyway if he's just standing atop the hatch.
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Servers fixed yet? I want to know whether I can play this tonight or whether to just jump on SL.
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>>151488746
Seems to be working ok for now.
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>>151466983
I'm relatively certain that player corpses from bleedouts or moris proc spies from the shadows but I was too busy to confirm

But I swear there was a crow near that fuck's corpse and it alerted me once
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>>151488592
>If you go do a gen the Killer has an automatic bead on your location

You mean... like every other time you repair one in the game? Do you just rely on other survivors being chased every time you fix a generator instead of hiding or fleeing? If he's heading towards the generator you just did, what's stopping you from sneaking around to the hatch?
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>>151490693
"Ey, uh, buddy. You left this guy lying here? You know that's for the entity, right? Maybe gonna put 'im on the hook?"
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>>151490793
Yeah, but this time there is only you to worry about, the Killer can spend as much time trying to track you down as he likes. And if you head for the hatch, he knows you have to be there for ~5 seconds to open it, it gives him a lovely grace period.
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This is the third bloodweb in a row with no perk. Is anyone else having this issue?
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Killer which is actually two weaker killers played by two people when?
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>>151492198
Well, do you have them all?
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>>151492476
I might have them all, but not all of them are ultra rare quality.
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>>151492626
Perks only go till rank 3.
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>>151492626
Yeah you got 'em all

Go play Wraith or Hillbilly or prestige or something
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>>151492965
>>151493574
Oh, I thought I would keep getting better quality versions of each perk. I guess not; thanks for clearing that up.
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>>151457291
Hey look an exploiter apologist ! all point and laugh hahahaha
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>>151488746
Can you help me build a boat?
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>>151494252
>pointing out that you can get people on that spot is saying it's okay to use exploits

Okay
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>>151500738
how is it possible without wasting a ton of time then
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High Tier Perks: Bloodhound, Brutal strength, Deerstalker, Iron Grasp, No One Escapes Death, Predator, Spies From The Shadows

Mid Tier Killer Perks: Tinkerer (highly situational), Agitation, Bitter Murmur, Insidious, Distressing, Shadowborn, Sloppy Butcher

Low Tier Killer Perks: Enduring, Lightborn, Monstrous Shrine

Bugged Killer Perks?: Whispers.

High Tier Survivor Perks: Self Care, Sprint, Spill Chill, Saboteur, Empathy, Lightweight

Mid Tier Survivor Perks: Iron Will, Calm Spirit, Dark Sense, Adrenaline

Low Tier Survivor Perks: Bond, Botany Knowledge, Deja Vu, Hope, Leader, No One Left Behind, Plunderer's Instinct, Premonition, Prove Thyself, Quick & Quiet, Resilience, Slippery Meat, Small Game, This is Not Happening, We'll Make It

Killer perks are more conceptually solid. You want help tracking and killing people and they help with that.

Survivor Perks are much weaker. The self care/sprint/spill chill/saboteur combo is so good because they allow you to help the team and yourself. Saboteur slows down and frustrates the killer whiling getting you points. Sprint can be used to run from the killer or to quickly get to your allies. Self Care and Spill Chill help keep your alive as you can't help your team when you are dead. Even nerfed sprint is still so much better than a majority of the perks.

Iron Will and Calm Spirit are both questionable because the former can be greatly weaken by bloodhound and you can do without the latter as long as you keep moving and don't run everywhere.

Small Game is a waste of a slot if you're not playing trapper.

Other perks like Leader seem nice on paper (its a team game so wouldn't perks that let you help the team be great?) but are terrible in practice. Like most team games that don't require people work together like a MMO party you are largely on your own. Even if you wanted to be team focused throwing empathy in with whatever sprint combo is better than taking something like We'll Make It.
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>>151501885
I agree with this a lot. They need to nerf sabotage and make sprint burst and self-care less appealing by buffing a shit load of the other survivor perks. The fact that none of Dwight's unique perks are useful is pretty egregious.
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How would you make Lightborn a not garbage perk
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>>151503084
make flashlights an actual threat towards non-wraith killers
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>>151503336
That would also "fix" shadowborn as they would have to question if having a wider FOV would be worth getting blinded more easily.
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>>151501885
>High Tier Survivor Perks:
>Lightweight
>Low Tier Survivor Perks:
>Premonition
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>>151503493
yeah, exactly. make lightborn viable and up shadowborn's FOV again while keeping it nerfed, all you have to do is buff the flashlight.
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>>151503527
I like both actually
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>>151503527
>Premonition
Compared to Spill Chill its much weaker. Spill Chill doesn't have a cooldown and you work faster when it is in effect.

>Lightweight
It is one of the few perks that make it harder for a killer to find you.
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>complains about matchmaking
>leaves lobby because of high ranked survivor

you are cancer
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>>151504517
>level 6 killer with a rank 1 perk
>get matched with level 50 prestige 2 jakes wielding toolboxes
>expecting me to stay

Yeah nah
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>>151504724
Kek so excited for the new patch so scrubs like you can be cucked out of existence
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>>151504885
Ayy stop abusing poorly balanced perks and I'll stop cancelling lobbies at 6 seconds. In the meantime, good luck finding a match!
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>>151504724
>he can't kill high level jakes
I remember rank 20
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>>151504997
bruh I don't even play survivor, let alone jake. sabotage is unbalanced but any killer who thinks it's impossible to win with high rank jakes in the lobby is a shite killer mate
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>>151505014
Nothing says good game design like standing over a body for 5 minutes waiting for them to bleed out. Doesn't matter to me, I'm not the one having trouble finding lobbies.
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>>151504724
I do feel bad for low rank/level killers with only one perk slot going up against high rank survivors. Its fun to meme on a low ranked killer every once in a while but I understand if they dodge me.
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>>151505128
nah you're the one who ruins the game for other people because you're bad and want to play newbies so you feel like you're good

keep telling yourself that it's their fault, not yours. I'm sure one day even you will believe it.
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>>151504997
Ayy stop throwing a tantrum every time you need to play against high level players

Sometimes people are better than you, it happens, it's okay. Play your best and play another match. Ain't no big deal senpai
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>>151503084
What if you put the FoV bonus on Lightborn. 10% shittier vision, but you get that wider veiw.

Or maybe some kind of bonus while around fires or lit gens.
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>>151505125
>impossible

Impossible? No. I'm still not playing "babysit the bleeding out faggots who take perks designed to ruin the way the game was designed" every single match. It's fucking stupid and tiresome.

>>151505287
>level 6 killer equipped with unrelenting rank 1
>I want to play with people around my level
>this is somehow bad

Maybe after another 40+ hours of grinding I'll unlock Iron Grasp and be able to counter your bullshit.

>>151505451
Or I could play with people who don't abuse the known broken perks and have more fun in a balanced match and get more bloodpoints? Alt tab back in and keep up the lobby hunt!
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>>151505453
Then it's basically just Shadowborn, but with the bonus of light resistance. Makes shadowborn more useless than it already is.
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>>151505579
I know how you feel man, if I join a game of counterstrike and someone has a better k/d I disconnect immediately
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>>151505287
>Every hook is down
>Every survivor sprints away at sanic speed and drops a dozen pallets behind them
>If you don't kill someone they're healed back to full in seconds
>If you don't have the perks to counter these, enjoy 5000 BP
>"lol you just want an easy game"
Eat my entire ass
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>>151505586
You still get the darkened vision while shadow born makes your vision clearer.
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>>151505579
>level 6 killer equipped with unrelenting rank 1
my fucking sides
literally git gud
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>>151505731
>>151505579
>THIS COMPETITIVE GAME IS TOO COMPETITIVE

is this bait? feels like bait
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>>151505731
>he's complaining about healing and pallets now
how about we just make the map one open field with a hook every couple of feet? Is that enough for you?
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>>151505789
they're just too similar. For lightborn to be useful, the flashlight has to be, and it's really only good against wraith at the moment
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>>151506056
he still wouldn't win
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>>151506231
>the flashlight has to be useful
Yeah, that was one of the things mentioned as well, I assumed flashlight was going to get buffed in some way.
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>tfw the camping hillbilly you teabagged at the exit was just a rank 20 retard

I feel a little bad now
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>>151506381
have they talked about buffing it? I heard they famously thought the flashlight was OP
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>>151506856
only makes it better anon
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>>151506857
They mentioned looking at it again but considering their stance on closets (so bad that it's good) I doubt they'll actually improve it.
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>>151507206
to be fair, I lowkey agree with them on closets. Most killers literally never look in them, while really low ranks look in ALL of them.
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we need sprays in this game like in TF2, i want to spray pony porn in my rape dungeon when playing as the killer, then hook faggot dwights in front of it, so they have to stare at the sweet horse pussy while they die.
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>me rank 11 in lobby with 3 rank 18-20s
>killer still nukes it

why tho
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>>151501885
Throw lightweight into low tier, premonition to mid tier, leader to teamwork tier. Leader isn't bad it just relies on your team to not be retarded.
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>>151507575
anybody who tells you lobby dodging is about Rank 1 Jakes taking out their hooks is a fucking liar.

They want a lobby of all ranks 18-20. One moderately low rank survivor and they disappear.

But with the coming of the new patch, much like the killer who were once infinite juked, we too shall reach salvation.

The meek shall inherit
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>>151507352
Closets are funny because killers never look in them because many survivors realize its a bad idea to use one yet what makes them somewhat usable is they are so bad that few killers expect people to use them.

>>151507604
>Leader isn't bad it just relies on your team to not be retarded.
It also relies on you being able to find your teammates quickly (bond) and avoiding getting separated too much. I don't like grouping up that much especially against a billy because things can go to shit real fast.
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>>151507780
Thing is I play killer a lot too and I'd rather have the challenge of high ranks. Lately I've been getting mixed lobbies with two low ranks and a medium-high and then a high rank. It's always a fucking stomp, it gets boring so I've been playing survivor.

I understand that a lot of survivors are scumbags, and infinites were/are complete bullshit garbage, but part of me thinks that a lot of killers (maybe just low rank ones) are babbies. I mean, how else are you going to get better at the game if you don't play? Fucking idiots man, I'm glad they're going to implement a nuke penalty.
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>>151507352
The problem with them is how loud the survivors are when you occupy them. The reason high rank killers never look in them is because they can simply walk past it and if they hear breathing they already know that they're in there.
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>>151508290
>if they hear breathing
Does Iron Will effect that?
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>>151507206
>>151507352

I think they have said they're tweaking closets to make them a bit quieter to get into. Also, they said that the loud breathing when entering one was a bug and to be fixed. Maybe it'll get better.

I think Lightborn could use a bit of a buff though. Something that has it interact with the various lightsources on the map or some shit, like letting you stare deeply into flames for a period of time and getting enhanced vision or some shit, but not as good as Shadowborn
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>>151508808
That's if you're injured. Entering and exiting the closet itself is ridiculously loud, and even while uninjured and not having sprinted recently the survivor inside will breathe loudly, presumably because being in such a small space with the possibility of being found is terrifying.

>>151509192
I hope so, it would make things more interesting at least.
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>>151507604
>Throw lightweight into low tier
What is so bad about lightweight? It feels more mid tier than low tier.
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>>151509767
I agree, it pairs really well with sprint burst too and makes losing a killer so much easier.
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>>151505935
>Competitive
>Grinding
Yeah okay. If the BP gain was better I'd be all for winning or losing according to "skill" but it's not.
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>>151510735
Deep and rewarding progression system anon. Part of the reward is the experience you get to make better use of the perks you'll earn. Take it from korbin, you can have access to the best everything and still suck absolute ass at the game.
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>dipshit Jake finishes 2 of my 99% gens
>on the second one I'm being chased so I go find him right after he does it and lead the Wraith to him
>it downs me and then hooks him

HOW ARE YOU RANK 11 AND YOU DO THIS JESUS CHRIST WHAT THE FUCK
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>>151511131
I don't like the 99% strategy. Situations like that is one of the reasons why.
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>>151510920
And if you don't have access to everything it's a significant handicap. Not having Iron Grasp / Brutal Strength / Deer Stalker makes the game unwinnable for the killer. Or at least your BP gain will be several reduced.

Basically just fix Saboteur, infinite jukes, and self heals.
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>>151511818
>Not having Iron Grasp / Brutal Strength / Deer Stalker makes the game unwinnable for the killer.
Not so friend. The most important things for a killer is learning how to read blood trails, avoiding getting stunned by pallets, and learning how the maps work so you can out juke them at places like the tractor.

Iron Grasp and Deer Stalker won't help if you can't down them and brutal strength is of little use if you keep getting stunned. Most of the time all your hooks will not be taken and if they are doing hooks they are not doing generators.
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>>151512483
To add to this when they are healing themselves they are stationary and moan louder making it easier to find them. Also learn to read crows. The perk helps out but you don't need it to use the crows.
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>>151512910
Precisely. Knowing how to play the game well is infinitely more valuable than having good perks.
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>>151512483
>Most of the time all your hooks will not be taken
Citation very much needed. I think I've had maybe one or two games out of a few hundred where all the hooks didn't poof by 5 minutes. And as someone who's level 40 on their Killer and still hasn't gotten Iron Grasp, it is incredibly frustrating.
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>>151513172
>Citation very much needed.
I'm not sure what type of citation I could give you. I was speaking from my own experience. I generally expect two to three hooks gone.
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>>151513172
On a somewhat related note its depends on what hooks they get. If they get all the hooks on one side things can get real bad if you don't have iron grasp. If they get one hook there and one hook over there its not so bad.

If they reduced the amount of points you get for taking down hooks I think a lot less people would go for it. Aside from the map with addons it is the easiest way to get points almost risk free.
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>>151511547
I mean the first one was justified because we still needed 4 gens, but the second? Nah, fuck that man. The 99% strategy isn't flawless but most killers don't know how to deal with it. At the very least you've made them waste their time patrolling that generator once.

But like this guy... He's rank 11 and not being chased, 2 gens are done so the hatch has spawned. He still finds it in himself to fucking finish my generator. Blows my mind. Rank 11 with 50 hours so I guess he's "new" but whatever
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I think the biggest core issue between the survivor/killer interaction right now is fucking teachable perks, honestly.

Not to say that the killer can't get some spicy shit going with a combination of the teachable perks but it's nowhere near as bad as the cancerous amalgamation of Saboteur / Self-Care / Sprint Burst. I'm fine with these abilities ON THEIR OWN, they're all very powerful, two of them grossly warp the way the game is played by killers.

It also makes the game a colossal grind since the 'optimal' loadout requires minimum 35 / 40 / 40 levels in each respective survivor, and being a new player walking into a grind like that is obscene with the current costs of the blood web. They really need to do something about the teachables situation as a whole.
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>>151515801
Wraith and Trapper have good/decent teachables. Hillbilly is trash except for tinkerer which is highly situational.

Because how different Killers are from survivors I'm not sure if you could make a truly cancerous build for them.

The blood web does need to be made less grindy.
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>>151504997
>I can't handle anyone with more than a few games under their belt. Clearly, this is everyone else's fault.

If you're too insecure to play with anything but a major advantage, then fine, but at least own it. Painting yourself as the put-upon underdog is just pathetic.
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>>151517089
Yeah the only real thing that drastically alters the way a survivor will play is NOED and every motherfucker can get that, and that got adjusted.

I'd still run it if I had it tho because I've seen a few gate BMers get downed and hooked and that shit makes me rock hard
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>>151505731

I've only recently started playing killer. I'm level six and I sacrifice one, perhaps two, but sometimes no players a game. I don't hookcamp and I don't farm, I just zoom around and occasionally drop a trap at the points that would look juiciest to me as a survivor.

I think I've lost one pip in the last ten games. Maybe you should try playing the game the way it's meant to be played.
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>>151517410
>Yeah the only real thing that drastically alters the way a survivor will play is NOED
Since you couldn't see the rank of the killer or what they were running I don't think it altered their behavior that much. The only way to know if they were running it was to have them hit a guy (who will most likely not be saved because of NOED) or have them chase you and notice how much faster they are going.
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>4 games in a row it's wraith
>3 of them it's fractured cowshed
>1 of them was a farming piece of cunt shit

Why is Wraith so boring to play against? Even with or without Spine Chill/Premonition, he's just such a fucking bore.
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>>151518718
He isn't as interesting as the other killers. When I first heard of him I thought a killer that would be able to go invisible would be great. Now he is just meh.
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what am i doing with my life
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Nea?
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>>151521070
Probably save manipulation
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>>151522846
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>>151521070
You'll probably scare the shit out of some scrubs.
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>>151521070
I really want my Bloody Billy but not having Iron Grasp 3 is really killing me. Doubt I'll even get it before I hit lv 50.
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>One survivor left
>4 gens left
>Skill check fail notification
>Pop this is on

http://youtu.be/n4ec4q7wIKs

What music would you blast /dbdg/?
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>>151525414
i ended up not using it at all on my second prestige

i might have, but IG1 appeared literally in my level 50 bloodweb lol

i think just blitzing survivors and hooking them early in conjunction with deerstalker beats out iron grasp. if you keep enough pressure/fear on them they won't have the time/balls to go for hooks
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Yeah. Having a high level survivor trumps a high level killer any day. Why they made learnable perks is beyond me.
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>>151525970
Yeah noticed if you play super aggressive with him you will still have a fair amount of hooks. I'd just like to have as it lets me put them on hooks that are easier to chainsaw back to.
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>>151526396

It ruins the point of having different characters with separate blood webs. You might as well make them unlockable skins.
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>>151522241
meg!
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>>151526396
They should limit it to one teachable allowed on your loadout. If you're playing Meg you should have to pick between having self care or saboteur.
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>>151526618
>>151526897
I'm so tired of playing against 4 rank 1's level 30+ characters with Sprint, Saboteur, Self Heal and Prem/Spinechill/Adrenaline

I used to love playing Killer, even when infinites were in the game, but now with everyone and their mother with all the busted perks the game has gotten stale.
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>>151526897

Or, they just don't do teachable perks at all and make different characters actually play differently.

A team of Jakes will give the killer a clue of what he's up against. Same with Claudette and Megs. It'll give them a clue on what survivor tactics to expect.

In the current system, a mixed team us completely up in the air because they could all have Sab or Self-Heal. Or both.
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>>151526897
That wouldnt solve anything everyone would just play meg
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>>151527597
I think it would be a good start. Too many people would crying if they completely removed teachables.
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>>151528621
The game would go to shit like evolve and die
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>>151525586
Chainsaw music

https://youtu.be/Ml55_NAkui8
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>>151527367
the killer shouldn't even be able to see what survivors he's going up against. the survivors can't see him, he shouldn't be able to see them.
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>>151525586
the same thing i always listen to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0B7Z3JERdk
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>>151530671
He's peering out onto his prey. I always thought it was cool.
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>>151530671
As a survivor I think it's fine. It's an advantage the killer is supposed to have and it makes it more tense for me.
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>>151530671
>the survivors can't see him, he shouldn't be able to see them.

Useless because the survivor will still know who the killer is the second they enter the match either by looking at the hook or a sound cue
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>>151532852
They still can't change their loadout to try and counter a certain killer, like bringing a flashlight if its a Wraith.
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>>151533372

Considering the survivor perks vs the killer perks, I think that's more than fair
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New Patch

Adjust PIP reward zones to 0 / 7000 / 10000 / 20000 for receiving -1, 0, 1 and 2 pips respectively.
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>>151536067

>It's real

Thank the heavens

Now I can be more ballsy with the hook rescues
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>>151536067
Did they reset us?
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>>151536067
So now the only way to downrank is to get blown the fuck out very early on.
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>>151537790
That's fine. You still won't be ranking up
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>>151537790

I find that very satisfying
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>>151536067
7k is way too low.
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>>151538705

Explain
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>>151539539
What's there to explain? If you don't get caught super early it will be quite difficult to derank.
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>>151540089

Getting caught super early is a common thing in this game.

Even then, 5k is the max you get for completing the objectives. If you did nothing else but get gens, you're still at risk of a decent. Doing the bare minimum and escaping gets you a pip, which is more than enough for people who don't want to lose a pip.

But doing the objectives and going for a rescue or distraction won't put you at risk of a derank if it goes south. You're not rewarded for your failure but your not punished for the attempt either.
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>Can't join
>Nuked lobby
>Nuked lobby
>Nuked lobby
>Nuked lobby
>Nuked lobby
>Can't join
>Nuked lobby
>Nuked lobby
>Nuked lobby

I'm only a rank seven Dwight you fucking cowards. Just let me play the game.
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>literally 1 (ONE) patch note
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unhook
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NOLB rank 3 gives you 3000 points for an unhook, you can now almost guarantee you'll at least go neutral if you suicide to save someone. That's kinda neat I guess
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>>151547330

I can see more suicide attempts now with the changes. More suicidal medics.
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>>151536067
what's the fucking point of ranking now, I reached rank 1 killer during infinijukes with grit and guts, fucking kids.
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>>151546802
insidious
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>>151547761
You still have the experience anon.
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>>151547761
>>151548362
I don't understand the qualm. They've just made it easier to not derank, and indirectly I guess, to rank up but barely so.
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What do you do
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Will the new killer be the new Dwight?
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>when you don't want to camp hooks but their teammates won't give you a chance to leave
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>>151549880
I mean survivor.
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>>151549880
>>151550141
I hope they're qt.
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>>151550092
I love being accused of hook camping when I hear two people running behind me as I'm carrying one to the basement.
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Hillbilly is to OP chainsaw shouldn't insta down
wraith is way better of a killer and he actually takes skill
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>Play a match after the patch
>Literally every single time anyone was hooked every single other survivor would flock to him and try and run interference and save each other, even though by all logical purposes we should have just smashed gens and left since he was camping like a shitter

I think this new patch is finally encouraging altruistic play guys
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>>151550836
Now my suicide medic strays will be seen as commonplace. I'm gonna miss having guys I unhooked at my expense messaging me after games.
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>>151550829
I agree with this comment.
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>>151550836
>he was camping like a shitter

You kinda force him to camp when you do shit like that.
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>>151552019
KYS
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We need a new thread!
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Just dashed randomly around the map instead of camping the hatch since i am tired of playing the waiting game with the survivors that win the get of out jail card.
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>>151552838
In the making.
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