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There have been numerous undisputable masterpieces in total war modding, such as the strikingly realistic classic Europa Barbarorum or its medieval counterpart Stainless Steel. Radious mod will not join their ranks; its surface is too generic, its presentation too provocative and its messages too obscure. Its take on the abysmal is an illumination in one person’s despair, but a paroxysm of another’s perversion. It will remain underground – treasured by the most avant-garde among intellectuals for its edifying if horrifying insight into the fundaments of human morality. Philistines and self-proclaimed critics alike will shun Radious mod, but you can’t fault them for that. It takes wisdom to appreciate its subtleties, and courage to side with the unpopular opinion. Sed domi maneas paresque nobis novem continuas fututiones.


Superficially, Radious mod appears to be a mod which caters to the most proletarian among men; aloof critics dismiss it as such often without a second thought. As complacent as these self-proclaimed "understanders of strategy" are, they fail to realize that Radious mod is a cult classic, a chef d'oeuvrea buried under false preconceptions and unfounded criticism. This gem is hidden because it does not shine; it is buried because its tone is that of abyssal black. Radious mod pries into to the darkest corners of our subconscious, the most visceral of our cognition, the most carnal of our urges, and the most primal of our instincts.

As brilliantly put by Cattalus, "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo"; to describe the artistic qualia of Radious mod would be to describe music to the deaf, color to the blind or beauty to the philistine. The painting speaks for itself, and it is up to the player to fully absorb its depth. Its sublimity will ever be debated yet always remain objectively irrefutable; the fundamental insight it provides into human and perhaps animalistic nature may shape the basis of Total War modding for centuries to come.

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Please discuss pre-warscape games

Third for Manny being the best LL

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quick reminder

Old thread
>>151054224

Put it in the OP next time fag

>>151172467
Okay you start :^)

>>151172467
as soon as 1212 and AE comes out we will never have to again. Enjoy them now before they become absolutely obsolete

>>151172587
Pre-warscape games have actual character to them and every playthrough and battle is unique. In warscape games you have the feeling every battle is the same and sieges especially, everything feels so monotone and streamlined that it feels like a f2p game aimed towards mouthbreathing retards.

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>>151172467

Pre-warscape games has the best charges in the series

>>151172815
I think I know why no one wanted to discuss pre-warscape games with you anon.

>play greenskins
>dworfs have invited top knotz into war
how is this even possible?

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Fuck the hisfag. Post qt elves.

>>151172815
streamlined as in not being able to build every fucking thing in one settlement in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and units not being clunky pieces of shit?

>>151172815
Kek.
I enjoy playing MTW2, it's better than warscape games in some areas mechanically, like its superior charges.
Though Warhammer has vastly superior charges to any other TW game.

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Jesus christ those people are garbage.

>>151172239
>I'm a moron.
Okay then.

>Play Greenskins
>Pontus declares war on me
>Get my line infantry to mop them up
I hate every warscape game being the same.

>>151173079
women are inferior to men.

>>151173198
>actual autism

Responding to others:
1. Taking people’s speech literally and being unable to understand sarcasm, metaphors or figures of speech

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>>151173198

>tfw Total War: Total War never

>>151173246
*tip fedora*

>>151173079

>warhammer elfs
>qt

>>151173161
I honestly thought that was WoW for a few seconds after opening that image

>>151173079
fuck you instead, post campaigns

>>151173432
>not wanting to fuck tall alien qts

>>151173432
i had a cute elf in WAR

>>151173629
>i'm a race traitor

>>151173401
>there will never be a Total War: Greatest Hits
it sucks man

>Empire on Legendary
>read your advice
>lets do it
>every time I leave Grunberg for next town, doom stacks raze my shit
>4th restart
>stay in Grunberg until I have lvl 2 defence in the next two turns
>Wissenberg goes autobahn past my stack and claims the two remaining towns
>mfw they are almost the only ones who doesn´t hate me and got 3 armies all around me
>I´m stuck with one crappy stack since economy
>turn 11
you never prepared me for this /twg/

>>151173180

??? You're a moron? srsly?
Good for you to admit it, then.
It's the first step towards acceptance, you know.

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Keemler showing Grimgor who truly is da best

>>151173767
>>151173401

Name the payable factions

>>151173884
Empire is the most difficult campaign.

>>151173246

'ello faggot.
sucked any superior dicks lately?

>>151173884
You know you can have more than one army right?

>>151173958
Rome, the eternal city.
Pontus
Iceni with an all-chariot unit roster
Feral Orcs
The Kingdom of Sicily

>>151173975
Also the most fun t-b-h

You're right in the middle of the shit and you get to fight everyone.

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>>151172907
Completely agree

Pic related, Warscape charges. THIS is how it's supposed to look like

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>>151173958
Pontus
Chaos Dwarfs
Brigantes
cute doggo barbarians from Attila
Otomo
Austria
Crusaders
Mongols

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>>151173748
Would betray the imperium any day for a qt eldar waifu tbf.

>>151174232
>Everyone hates Otomo the most

>>151173975
That's not Dorfs.

>>151173958
Pontus
Marathas
France
England
Orcs
ARCHE
Token nip faction
Milan
Mongols
Mongols with Elefuns

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>[Can't wake up intensifies]

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>>151173884
your first mistake was playing Empire

>>151174423
They're hands down the easiest.

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Why are Dwarfs white? Why are they male? Why aren't there any black, female Dwarfs?

Is it racism?

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>>151174221
>that last guy completely missing the charge and tripping over a body

>>151174448
Is that Mousillon somehow having survived in the west?

>>151174423
apart from Grimgor confederating with all the orcs but top knotz in less than 25 turns, Dorfs campaign is just streamroll to the north, then to the west

about to play total war rome 2 as my firts TW game, what mods should i install?

>>151174448
>In the grim darkness of Sylvania, there is only WAAAAAGH!

>>151174836
Uninstall mod

>>151174836
radious

>>151174448
>turn 208

>>151174836

FOTE

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>>151174738
sometimes weird things happen

>>151174724
>lives underground for generations
>there are dwarf womyn

>>151175050
looking at the map, I´m always stunned by how small the Wood Elves forest are and wonders how the fuck they will make them intresting in GC

>>151175275
mini campaign for them

hord faction in the GC

>when your lord of change gets ambushed and slaughterers the opposition with no minimal losses
I need a big bird Pepe/bear

>>151174930
Legendary Vamps, be nice. It's hard to expand when the Empire fucks you from the west, Orcs from the south and Chaos from the north

>>151172467
Milan was the best faction in M2.
If you hate Milan you gay and probably Venetian as well.

>>151175275
I doulbt they will be in the GC at all. When / If then get added I'll be shocked if they just have a mini campaign in an enlarged athel loren map like eye for an eye.

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hol up... hol up...

>>151175351
but.. but I dont want another horde faction :(

Centuries of generations of living undergroud probably rendered females to look like males with beards and at this point you dont really care if its male or female. As long as they have a beard and it smells of fermented beer its alright.

>>151175445
Man, I'm good at words today.

>I'll be shocked if they don't* just have a mini campaign

>>151174221
>>151172907
are these the only two charges we can ever have? non existent or blob mc blob?

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G O B L I N S

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>>151175457
WE DEM BOYS

>>151174221

Hey! It's an Asterix & Obelix vs Caesar episode!

>>151174729

Tripped, fell, landed on his spear ...
10/10 would kek again.

>>151174836
Don't bother.

Ancient Empires soon.

>>151175275
maximum of 3 "cities" (probably two). Other forests are claimable as outposts but you have to drive out the beastmen beforehand. Its doable

>>151173060
>Dwarfs are into beating up orcs
>Orcs also like beating up orcs
Do the math, you git.

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>tfw no tomb kangz poster to nully

>>151175275

It's about the size of Eastern Sylvania, easy to make into a 3 settlement region.

>>151175445

Pretty sure they wanted all the factions in the GC.

>>151173918
No, you stupid moron, the green text is a summation of the post it's in response to. When confronted with superior evidence you pull the intellectually lazy "hurr agree to disagree" card, and are thus a moron.

>>151175584
I dont think they'll leave best elves out of the campaign. their forest is big enough for 2 or 3 settlements or, since we dont know where and how these deranged treehuggers live, they could make them a single massive settlement or a horde faction. Their annual murder rampage does sound a bit horde-y to begin with, and the forest is supposed to be another dimension or some shit so I guess they could combine mechanics to test the waters for future factions and stuff as well.

>>151176394
don't bother

>>151175430
>Venetian are bad
>Still have pike and shot
>Way better infantry if not the best in game
>Decent archers
>Best light cav in game bar none
>Same ships
>Starting positions are debatable as to which is better
Venice is better IMO but thats only if you like offensive infantry instead of pure wall ones.

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>Devolve's range

>>151176581
I hope they get added I'm just concerned about lack of meaningful objectives for them. I can't think of any lore reason for them to leave the forest, and their surrounded by "good" races. Maybe their goal could be to wipe out beastmen factions or something but that happens by itself all the time already.

>>151176581
I'm hoping for a forest corruption thingy, maybe only allowed to settle in an area that's at least 50% forest.
With the Wild Hunt acting as a powerful, but quickly detereoating extra army that you got some control over (less than Waaaghs or Brayherds).

>>151176709
>pikes
useless
>AP infantarie
useless
>non langbogenschütze
useless
>leichte kavallerie
useless
>schiffe
useless

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>Cleaning up rebels at the start of empire campaign
>Beastmen coming but my main army wont make it so I quickly raise another one
>It´s not enough, city gets razed and army destroyed
>Just when I destroy the beastman another kingdom joins the rebels which have only one city
>All kingdoms around me declare war on me
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

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Warhammer is fucking gay

>>151175430
>>151176709
Have only played England and the Roman Empire in MTW2 so far, what's cool about Milan?

>>151177107
You're fucking gay.

>>151177118
Pavise crossbowmen. They're all you ever need and the AI even knows this.

>>151177057
do you only know how to use crossbows or something

>>151177206
Suck my history-loving dick, Wargay fanboy

>>151177057
Light cav is the offensive cav, heavy cav is to stop light cav.
Some people want to beat the other infantry which is the only point to offensive infantry.
You get muskets so its not like you keep the bows.
>>151177118
They have the best crossbows, so if youre too lazy to position muskets they are the best ranged units other then mounted crossbows/gunners. But their infantry and cav suck.

>>151175608
Have you ever played Bretonnia, m8?

Who is the best LL for killing armies??

I would say Archaon, he is a melee god and his fireball can rack up 200 kills by themselves.

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>>151173246
Can men do THIS

>>151177107
>>151177206
>>151177301

you know, there are sites online dedicated to that kind of meets, people - no need to ply your wares here

>>151177379
>using muskets in m2
>using heavy cav to catch light cav
>light cav is the offensive cav

Is this bait?

>>151177505
y-yes...?

>>151177118
>>151177379
Like ridiculously good crossbows. Put them on a steep hill and have a it of defensive infantry stop the charge and you won crossbows. Like shit on anyone during sieges crossbows.If youve played MB warband its like the Rhodoks. Decent infantry (expensive as hell though) with god tier crossbows and no cav to mention.

>>151177603
Do it and post a video then you faggot

>>151177505
What, you mean throw away their pride and dignity in order to please other men? Sure. Men do it better too.

>>151177505
I can

;-)

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>>151173945
del
et dis

>>151177525
>using heavy cav to catch light cav
hen they carge into your line you trap them. They have to charge repeatedly to work so yes its good to trap them. Light cav is the offensive cav, if you dont want to engage and go straight for their archers its either light cav or horse archers. And muskets are really good but its ridiculously hard to line up so there is no point other then sieges or if you have good cav to ward off other cav. Or pikes. If you have the pie fix.

>>151177694
No, please other men and be sex objects without throwing away their dignity
Also female MCs are almost always better than male ones as far as LNs and WNs go in terms of being better written.

>>151177646
I can never get the hang of crossbows during sieges. They only ever seem useful if the enemy has taken a wall and you have a distinct line of sight to them which is hard on larger settlements.

>>151177657
Why? There's more than enough out there already.

>>151178112
They're all faggots thoughs.

Are there any mods that FULLY add new Agents to any factions? Like new portraits and can be recruited in campaign, etc?

>>151177646
Are you fucking kidding me? Italian militia are dirt cheap and better than the militia than other factions, they have access to broken lances which upgrade to super heavy armor which many factions lack, they get all the basic cavalry options other european factions get + knightly orders and their signature unit is fucking heavy cav. Did I mention they have the best artillery and gunpowder units that aren't utter shit? It's ridiculous how good the milanese roster is.

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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWW

>>151178215
that's the idea

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shit

>>151178352
What a lovely warped creature. If it weren't for the horns I would think they are skavens too

>>151178262
>militia
Useless past turn 20 when you can get fuedal knights if you rush it or if you are France or Sicily and just get them with your OP castles.
>Broken lances
No shields, they are trash since archers are the only enemy of cav in the first place. That and the attack sucks.
They dont have the best gunpowder they have normal musketeers which is baseline.
And I never used artillery past wooden ones, it slows down the army too much and I mostly blitz. Sure they are great but another unit of cav archers would get more kills.

>>151178661
Infantry is fucking worthless, they get shredded by heavy cav and AP missiles so their only use is to hold the enemy infantry long enough for your cav to get in position for spam charges. In that aspect italian militia is good, in medieval 2 there are no arbitrary army limit so you can just shit out stacks of italian spearmen and heavy cav and blitz the world. When I say broken lances I mean the dismounted version. They have shields. Their signature heavy cav get super heavy armor + shields anyway so it doesn't matter. Also I never said they had the BEST gunpowder units, they have the ones that don't fucking suck ala handgunners which is what many factions end with.

>>151178352
please anon this is a sfw board

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>>151173079

>leather bikini armor


what a degenerate slut, she'd go down in the first volley of arrows

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>>151175615

>>151179415
All I hve to say about the Broken lances is that they cost 225 upkeep and Venice infantry is 150. Thats half again what it costs, meaning you can field 3 Venice infantry for every 2 Milan ones.

Also in an Infantry grind the Venician would do better, as they have warhammers and higher attack while still having a 16 defense.

>>151180349
>infantry grind

When does that ever happen? They're good for sieges, I'll give you that much.

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>turn 150
>Orcs have eaten the entire bottom half of the map
>endless doom stacks of Orcs attacking me in waves
>Can't recruit new armies fast enough
FUCKING ORCS

>>151180496
Thats it, sieges, which is where youll do most of your late game fighting, against mongols on the walls/in the corners where cav doesnt matter, so you need really good archers, or superior cheap infantry to win.

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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

>>151179415
Milan gets musketeers which is the second best european gunpowder unit.

>>151180865
NOW

>>151176335

>post his exact line and gif in a thread before him to see what he'll do
>he has several slightly altered backup gifs to post

>>151180865

later

>>151180865
women are inferior to men.

>>151180865
Mod it in dumb fuck
Stop waiting for something you want to be spoon fed to you by someone who also wants it, make it yourself.

>>151181142
Skeletons are crafty like that.

>>151174259
stop
or you will atract inquisition's attention

>>151181345
You can't import models to TWWH.

>>151181276

'ullo faggot
how's that superior dick sucking going?

>>151181651
sappers don't get scared.
"Keep your heads lads, its only bullets"

>>151181276
>be genius strong fair man in CK2
>everyone hates you for reasons beyond your control
>be genius strong fair woman in CK2
>every vassal wants your pussy so they love you
>seduction focus means you'll never EVER have revolts or anything of the sort
Mhmm

>>151173246
>>151181276
their feet are superior

>>151182217
Thats reasonable though and historically accurate. That didnt mean they were good rulers, they were whores who more often then not ruined their country.

>>151174836
>first time
no mods

>>151182390
Men were incompetent fools just as much especially when praised by literally everyone around them.
A hypercompetent woman is superior to an equally hypercompetent man. Bonus if she looks hot.

>>151182118

Famous last words:
"Why are you hiding, men? Hell, they couldn't hit an elephant at that ra ... "
Apparently, historians think that last word would have been 'range' if it wasn't cut short.

>>151182595
finally someone who gets it.

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Anyone else's Steam removed warhammer from their library? I was playing early today and there was no issue when I shut down but now its been removed to the void or some shit

>>151182376
Who's the fastest runner in the world again? Was it a woman?

>>151182641
sappers don't get scared of germans. a life of working in coal mines does that to you.
come at me inquisitor.

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Even with magic, improvement mods, gelt's start is just so much less fun than Karl's.
Is there a mod to swap around his starting units to something less shit?

>>151182794
Mate if you think male thighs are superior to female thighs because females are usually slower then you're gay as hell
Even women like looking at women more on average than at men and this means that between a man and a woman who are equally competent, the girl is better at just about anything.

>>151182794
Who is the hottest person of all time? Is it a man?

>>151183139
Well, uh, yes.

>>151183314
t. Chris Chan.

>>151183012
A man is always better than a woman. A man and a woman on equal standing is impossible.

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>>151183373
How did you guess?

>>151183139
There are some pretty goddamn handsome men out there. Like Mannfred von Carstein, the rightful emperor.

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>>151174423
The only problem I have ever had was Grimgor showing up with a waagh early game.

>>151183139
Me
so yeah

>>151183139
Well yes, men can be much larger than women and therefor generate much more body heat

>>151183469
I wonder who could be behind this post

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Round 4

>>151183469
Thank you, neutral and unbiased poster.
How silky his hair is
>>151183453
Chris is a woman now.

>>151183453
someone please send me the imgur link to the pic of chris' 'vagina'. he deleted it off his facebook.

>>151183840
God Speed

>>151182975
But his units are good. The main problem is that he is shit since he only knows one spell (and its a shit spell) and will lose in a duel against any other General except the Goblin.

Next faction when?

So uh
Is FotE officially abandoned? When the fuck will startpos be fixed?

>the better Warhammer series will never be made into a Total war game

Why is this allowed

>>151183840
I lend my calcium to thee, brave skely

>>151184229
when we get hardware capable of processing the entire universe and literally billions of soldiers then we'll get it. the alternative is an incredibly small-scale representation which completely loses the main theme of 40k which is the immense scope.

>>151184204
No

>>151184684
They already did that. You can't even simulate a tenth of Cannae in Rome 2.

>>151184684
but muh DoW

Are there any mods that FULLY add new Agents to any factions? Like new portraits and can be recruited in campaign, etc?

Anyone know?

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>>151183840
they just won't stop coming

>>151184229
Doesn't really fit the total war battle formula. A wargame 40k would be better. People really are obsessed with putting the total war title on everything they like.

>>151184829
And let's not even talk about Napoleonic battles

>>151185017
>People really are obsessed with putting the total war title on everything they like.
You mean putting 40k into everything?

>>151184829
when people think of the roman empire they don't think of billions of soldiers being thrown into a meat-grinder against insurmountable forces across dozens of galaxies. that is integral to 40k. the whole point is that strategy and tactics are entirely ignored in favour of mass shock tactics and blowing things up from orbit. it just wouldn't work. it would either lose what it means to be a total war game or lose the 40k aspects.

>>151184964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z48NmdWbquw

What mods do you use for a better WoC campaign?

>>151185225
>all factions are only capable of human wave tactics

wow... so.... interesting......

>>151185225
When people think of ww1 they don't think of 64 minorities running around with lmgs and tanks up the wazoo but here we are.

>>151185083
I guess. I see 40k and WW2 total war way too much though. It's basically a (setting I like) + Total War = good, mindset. They haven't actually thought about the gameplay at all. They might have some ideas about the campaign map but that's about it.

>>151185225
so you're saying there's no good WH40K game?

Sup lads shitto-kunt from yesterday here.

Is there any real point in the Otomo meme in Darthmod? Isn't a fully traditional army composition more effective than a 40/60 or 50/50 gunpowder/melee composition?
I feel like with the nerfed size to Tercio's, the damage they will do to the enemy units that have engaged my front line will not significantly higher than hammering that anvil with charge infantry.

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>>151185808
>modding perfection

Just stick to the classics.

Play Shogun 2.

>>151185795
nope, it could work in pretty much every way aside from one which inherently focuses on simulating every individual soldier.

When will warhammer people get a game where they just play their base game on a computer. Then they can stop putting their game on everything.

>>151186124
What do you think this was

>>151185982
I was in it for the upgraded smoke effects and shit like that. I had no idea he rebalanced the game like that. tfw

>>151185984
So according to your point of view the original tabletop game is shit aswell

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>>151186241
>upgraded

No. Just different. "upgraded" and "improved" are just buzzwords modders use to make it seem as if their worthless mod is better than the efforts of a paid professional.

Just stick to the classics.

Play Shogun 2.

>my secondary horde gets fucked by the chaos gathering because I made it 3 turns ago
Tzeentch, you are a fucking faggot

>>151186203
Doesnt have dice. I mean the actual game, this was them putting their game into something else.

>>151186367
The TT is little more than small scale skirmishes that affects little of the overall battle. Alternatively you can just use one model to represent a hundred thousand or more troops.

>>151186776
So literally just like Dawn of War then

>>151186605
Based on what people have said in the general before, GW actually thinks digital games hurt miniature sales, and have really only recently opened up the license with End Times and stuff. They'd probably never make a digital wargame, cause then you wouldn't pay for all the miniatures. I never played 'em though, so no idea how true it is.

>>151184964
what mod are you using to change the icons and shit anon

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Done with playing Empire
Done with playing Dwarfs
Done with playing Greenskins
Done with playing Chaos
Done with playing Beastmen
Not going to play Vampire Cunts

What the fuck do I do now

>>151187168
play vampire counts

>>151187168
just make mod

>>151186979
Considering how expensive minitures are (I had someone say that a case the size of a shoe box cost him 2k) I would never buy it in the first play. I think it would get more people interested in the game, which would bring up sales though. Until it becomes casual, their main player base leaves, and it dies like everything else.

>>151187168
have a wank

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>playing Atilla as WRE

>>151186367
the tabletop game does not simulate every individual soldier. this is why you don't have to buy billions of figurines to play a game.

>>151187168
Play Mousillon.

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>>151187543
it was even more fun when the game just released but then people started whining about difficulty and it was made significantly easier

I MUST KEEP MY HOLY VOW

NO

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>>151184964
Should I? I've killed like 50 of their armies, but the Bretonnian Vamps are invading me full force also.

>>151187042
Improved flags by Noif

>>151187168
I did a middenheim campaign with based boris and a middenheim unit pack.

>>151187168
Play something else. You've clearly had your money's worth of TWW.

>>151188069
>strength rank 1 vs 3

you will regret making peace anon

peace is for queers

>>151187543
is there a strategy feasible aside from razing like 80% of your territory and consolidating? playing it as my first game and it's going well but only because i destroyed everything outside of italy and north africa.

>>151187910
As long as it wasnt unfair, like you could do the same thing if you tried, I see no reason for undoing the difficulty. In M2tw the AI gets free armies, thats why they can upkeep 3 full stacks with 1 castle. Thats Unfair, but its the handicap they get for being AI, I can handle that.

If they got stat bonuses to their troops however that would be unfair.

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>>151188361
>abandoning rightful roman clay

>>151188069
why not? iirc you don't need to destroy greenskins. you should get some money off them for that peace treaty as well though.

>>151188523
s-strategic withdrawal

>>151188361
Depends on how good you are at battles.
If you quickly take out the Quadians, Marcomanni, and Alamans you might be able to make it work.
Also remember to raze places with hostile nearbys, do NOT occupy Scotland and Ireland until you've gotten things down.

>>151188523
Rightful Roman clay by Roman reckoning was the entire world but they'd die horribly if they tried.

>>151172220
>In a very bad siege
>Outnumbered 2:1
>Enemy general, in his infinite genius, marches his yari ashigaru up the walls in threes and twos so I can deal with them with what troops I have
>He keeps doing this
>The whole army is destroyed
>This is on hard mode
AI isn't this game's strong suit, is it?

>>151188846
>Rightful Roman clay by Roman reckoning was the entire world but they'd die horribly if they tried

Same for Alexander and his buddies, as well as the Chinese right now. That's one of the reasons the Chinese are so aggressive with their borders. I imagine Rome would be like that but worse.

When should I attack as the besieger? Fog or dry?

>>151189472
Whenever you are sure that they wont attack the next turn and you have missile units. Fire on their lines and they will be reloaded by next turn.

>>151189472
fog

>>151189620
Huh?
>>151189635
Thanks.

>>151188473
roman units had insanely high upkeep and most were weak compared to barbars, which forced you to rely on levies from barbars and mercenaries, it was interesting and refreshing playing with whatever you can scrape together instead of optimal stacks. But m-muh balance fags started complaining and roman units got they upkeep reduced and stats raised. Most importantly corruption cap was lowered from 90% to 60% which made WRE economy actually pretty strong and the game trivial as you can now afford to field proper armies right of the bat. They completely ruined the WRE experience desu

>>151188713
no, don't give them an inch of roman land

>>151189729
>which forced you to rely on levies from barbars and mercenaries,
Oh no

Not historical accuracy

>>151189884
>Reading comprehension

>>151190171
>Autism
I'm not saying you're retarded, I'm saying they are.

Based purely on your post.

>>151189729
>most were weak compared to barbars
That's not true
The problem was that Roman units depended on their heavy armor to tank hits but the two most dangerous - and common - infantry units were the Germanic Band / Warband and the Gothic Warband.
Germanic Bands / Warbands have massive AP damage and the Gothic Warband has an insane charge bonus.

>>151190345
>That's not true
do you not remember that elite palatina before patches had regular swords? which made the latest roman "shock" infantry weaker than gothic warband? or that equites promoti were weaker then regular tier one german horses and got completely trampled by noble german horses?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQgd6MccwZc

>>151190594
Elite Palatina are STILL shit though, and the Gothic Warband can shit on just about any melee unit save certain shock infantry and very high end units.

>>151189713
You should always attack the besiegers if they are just sitting there waiting to give you attrition or force you to attack, beccause then you can get free harass from your artillery and archer units.

>>151190728
what's the meme behind this

>>151190953
This is Shogun 2. I meant the weather screen that comes up; I assumed it was the same in other games, 'cause I looked it up first and it seemed similar in Empire.

>>151191072
Play Greenskins campaign

>>151191318
but greenskins are shit anon

>>151191487
then enjoy not being part of the meme club, I guess

>>151191676
Wow now you're just being mean.

>>151191072
every time you play the greenskins campaign

So I was thinking of a mod for the WoC campaign, and for Archaon specifically
Basically for every quest that you complete as the everchosen, you get boosts to your diplomacy rating with the norscan tribes, and if you already have some subjugated some of them, they are less likely to revolt
Is it possible to make a mod like this with the tools that we have now? Would it make the game too easy?

>>151192353
maybe? doesn'ts seem impossible with the current shit support

>>151192353
It could just be something as simple as replacing or adding to Archaon's EXP rewards with +relations with the Norsca. If Norsca relations alone isn't possible, +all would be fine since everyone hates you by default anyway.

>>151173246
In some ways yes, in others no.

Although if your talking about combat, especially older combat that relies even more on physical strength then yes men are far more likely to be better, besides the few exceptions of a larger girl or manlet guy

>>151193119
I was thinking that, or if possible add a +relations effect on the relics themselves
I'll look into it after I get home

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Well, that was that. Took me ages and a shitton of Greenskin removal, but I finally finished my first Legendary Vamp campaign! What a ride it was!

never again

>>151193882
>short victory
>256 turns
Jesus christ, I thought it took you so long because you went out of your way to remove dorfs for the long victory.

Do you do the quests for purple items? It often take a while for me to meet the condition and by the time it happens chaos is fucking shit up and i don't bother

>>151194187
I tried to, didn't end well

>>151177896
Light cav is for screening, skirmish, and chasing down routers. Heavy cav is for charges and melee.You're an idiot.

How is orc campaign in terms of fun?
Also who is the strongest LL in game? Like someone who can just rush into unit alone and completely destroy everything

>still no halfling archers and catapult mod

JUST TAKE THE DWARF MODEL WITHOUT THE BEARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>151194693
No archer animations for dwarf skeletons though.

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>>151194657

>>151193496


Looking into it myself, came across some stuff

cdir_events_mission_payloads_tables

there is a 'payload key' (reward) called DIPLOMATIC_STANDING with amounts of 1 or 2 - safe to assume it's 10 and 20 since there's nothing but 1 or 2.

You can totally do what you wanna do with Archaon. All it takes it adding new rows to the file, with something like:

wh_dlc01_qb_chs_archaon_amour_of_morkar_stage_3_the_armour_of_morkar | DIPLOMATIC_STANDING | SUCCESS | AMOUNT[1]

This new row would add +10 diplo standing with someone, but I don't see a way of adding it to a specific faction. There's a dwarf event that gives +/- diplo rep with other dwarfs, so you can look at those.

>>151194657
for fighting Karl Franz and Grimgor. Manny and Azhag are overall better, but not as fighters

>>151194397
Heavy cav is for infantry, light cav is for everything but heavy infantry and heavy cav. Which sounds more useful?

>>151194834
Alright, thanks for the help

>>151194864
What about archeon? You would think that the everchosen would be the strongest fighter

>>151194657
Grimgor Ironcock is the guy you are looking for

How in the name of fuck do you recolour units in Rome 1. I have Paint.net but there are no guides for this at all. All I'm doing is reskining some of the BI WRE units purple so that the ERE can also use them.

>>151194657

GOD TIER:

Azhag, Manfred, Karl Franz, Grimgor, Archaon

TOP TIER:

Sigvald, Kholek, Kemmler, Ungrim, Khazrak (foot), Louen

MID TIER:

Thorgrim, Kemmler, Khazrak (Chariot), Malagor

SHIT TIER:

Balthasar Gelt

>>151195050
oh right, I play chaos super rarely so I forgot. Archaeon is a great fighter. Kholek also got a tendency to wreck shit

>>151195246
>Azhag mentioned before Grimgor

GET
THE FUCK
OUT

>>151195050
Not sure if he or Grimgore are stronger though in a custom battle between grim arch with chosen and black orks I had, Grimgore got his ass handed to him by Archeon before I pulled him out and relied on the power of the Waagh.

>>151195428
But that's alphabetic anon

>>151195246
Why do people underrate Khazrak on chariot? You get fucking 170 charge bonus with the abilities active. Sure, he's not as good in duels, but he murders infantry like there's no tomorrow with some micro. Let the Gorebulls fight enemy lords.

>>151195246
kemmler twice?

>>151195523
Grimgor, Ungrim and Kholek are the strongest fighters tbqh

>>151195246
Kholek can 1v1 literally any hero, lord or LL.

>>151195246
>Azhag
>good
Pfhthahahahahahaha

>>151195569
It isn't.

>>151195617
Bad pathfinding with the chariot so he underperforms in fights

>>151195696
>Ungrim
he's shit though

KF is way better

>>151195735
>What is a wyvern
>What is lore of death

>>151195851
Hes not though

He never routes and can easily take high tier units on his own for a long time

>>151195795
That's why you micro. He usually ends up with the most kills in my games.

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If you could replace any faction in warhammer setting, what faction and what do you replace it with?

>>151196252
Empire with WRE

>>151196252
The empire
Pontus

>>151196039
that way he is just a unit of shock cav. The chariot ruins his god tier melee attack and makes it so his aura can't keep the rest of the beastmen with high leadership, so I prefer having him in the fight. I feel the Centigors do any cav role better than he does anyway

>>151195876
>takes forever to get wyvern
>irrelevant lore because you dont get it until your armies can already do all the work for you anyway
Hes literally one of the most poorly made generals in the game. His crown is far too hard to get and his wyvern is entirely worthless by the time you get it.

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Is there any Elf version of this? I found a LotR one but its kinda meh. Also post bears

>>151196252
WoC = Mongols

No infantry, no shitty 'Legendary' Lord in the way, just a stack of 20 horse archers

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Can't believe there is people who don't love those Floppy Hats.

>>151196626
The gorebulls do a good enough job of buffing the rest, and Khazrak will buff the units he's helping out anyway, he's not supposed to be on his own. He's also an incredibly durable unit of shock cav, while centigors are pretty fragile.

>>151196252
The Empire with Prussia.

>>151197658
I FIGHT FOR THE COUNT

>>151197658
Only real men wears floppy hats

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>>151196252

Chaos with Huns

>>151195246
Where would Louen Leoncoeur be?

>>151197658
the ultra-man on the left
LOOK AT HIM
it doesn´t get any manlier than that

>>151199926
look again

>>151200108
Shit, missed it

GOD TIER:

Chaos Sorcerer (Lore of Death), Light Wizard, Exalted Hero, Necromancer, Gorebull, Bray Shaman (Death, Wild)

TOP TIER:

Orc Shaman, Wight King, Bray Shaman (Beasts), Thane, Vampiress, Banshee, Runesmith, Amber Wizard, Witch Hunter, Warrior Priest

MID TIER:

Night Goblin Shaman, Chaos Sorcerer (Fire), Bright Wizard, Empire Captain

LOW TIER:

Master Engineer, Goblin Big Boss, Celestial Wizard, Chaos Sorcerer (Metal)

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Friendly reminder to Kill for Khorne.

>>151200509
>Wild
>God tier

lol

>>151200509
>Master Engineer that low
Why?

>>151200509
Lore of fire is good though

It actually does damage and kills units

>>151175050
dwarf pride world wide brother

GOD TIER:

Middenheim, Reikland, Stirland

TOP TIER:

Wissenland, Marienburg, Kislev

MID TIER:

Nordland, Vampire Counts, Hochland, Ostland, Border Princes

SHIT TIER:

Tabachanland (or how the hell they now spell it)

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how accurate is this

>>151200509
how do you use runesmiths ?

>>151201404
Averland need to go to shit-tier
Vampire cunts to Rightful Emperor tier

>>151201404
Talabecland you fucking philistine.

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>>151200558
Head-taking is encouraged, start your own collection today!

>>151201549
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kVJdx-vVw0

this is slaanesh´s champion

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>>151201719
Just don't let it get out of hand.

>>151201638
Averland into shit-tier, agreed.
VCs are almost shit tier, they can raise almost infinite of dead soldier to fight for them in a world in constant war and still fail to be even remotely significant.

>>151201637
Use their runes

>>151178352
what the hell is that

>>151202482
Beastmen chaos spawn

>>151187168
Get into your cryotube and come back in 4 years when it's done.

>>151187168
>haven't played the best campaign
>asks what to do now
Dumb frogposter.

>>151187168
Radious.

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>>151201719
>>151202170
Of course, but there are many ways to please mighty Khorne, like friendly competition.

Nothing's more fun than seeing who can spill the most blood before degenerating into inevitable spawndom.

What are the best factions in Total War Warhammer for a co op campaign?

hopefully they don't keep the same victory conditions as the single player campaigns.

>>151187168
Play Attila or some shit.

>>151203259
Empire and dorfs.

>>151203259

Greenskins and dwarfs for competition
Empire and Dwarfs for coop

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>>151201549
here's a more accurate one

>>151203259
Beastmen and Empire

>>151203259
Beast men and Chaos
Empire and Dwarf

Nothing else really makes sense, maybe you could stretch Azhag and VC by saying its Nagash but thats about it.

Personally i think it is better to have a split faction mod, like Midenhiem and Empire since they have a unique LL as Borris.

If Bretonnia were available it would be so much better.

>>151205074
But isn't it fun to imagine how in the lore it could happen?

which Attila dlcs should I get /twg/

>>151205385
Karl der Große.

Molay's spells and artifacts update WHEN?

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>GROUP ATTACK

Does this work in Rome II also? I feel dumb if it does.

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>>151205385
empires of sand, the last roman, age of charlemagne are the only good ones, celts are ok too

I have all the DLC and played >1000 hours, trust me the rest are really meh

>>151205180
Empire and VC join up to stop the end times, only problem is vamps need to spread corruption which hurts the Empire players units and public order.

Dwarf and Orc fight for whatever minimal land they have already.

Chaos and Beastmen can pair with anyone if the goal is to destroy.

>>151178352
Why didn't they give the Beastmen poison hounds the same models as the Beastmen normal hounds? The poison ones are copypasted from chaos but the others aren't?

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>There will never be amazing General speeches again ;_;

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WHEN
H
E
N

>>151205890
>Ywn see your general fucking up a speech because of poor traits again
Hold me ;_;

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I want to get back into Medieval 2. What are good mods for a vanilla-ish experience of Medieval 2? By vanilla, I mean doesn't make it balls to the wall hard, doesn't bloat it overmuch with doubtless historically accurate but tedious systems, and doesn't convert it to another area of the world or a fantasy universe.

>>151206193
S Q U I G S
Q
U
I
G
S

I'm starting to dig deep into the meat and potatoes of attila city management but the more I learn the more I realize that there's little to no choice involved. Maybe there is some sort of variety allowed on hard difficulty or lower, but on VH and legendary there is one specific build order that works and everything else leads to problems. You have to juggle food, sanitation, and public order into a perfect balance that even the slightest variation fucks up. I just recently had to drop like 50k on renovations to my settlements in order to combat a gigantic disease outbreak that's spread to half my settlements. There's no room to make any real money. You've got to have AT LEAST two or three public order buildings in each province to make up for all the difficulty penalties, not to mention at least one sanitation building in every single city, which is a problem when there are only 4 slots available in a city. Fertility continues to drop until the entire planet is basically a desert, and since all of the barbarian heavy cavalry requires fields to recruit, you're forced to use a food building that won't be enough to feed your province just to recruit military units. It's like you have to convert, build all the units you need, and then convert back to goat farms in order to maintain a food surplus.

My ostrogothic empire is still reeling from the costs of solving this sanitation issue that snuck on on me and hit me like a truck. The Romans have decent province-wide sanitation buildings that give you room for more money-making buildings, but for a barbarian faction the waterworks is total shit and you're forced to have sanitation literally everywhere. Not to mention you can't even check the sanitation of a city while it has a disease, so it's hard to know how much sanitation it's gonna take before the problem is solved. My best army had been riddled with disease for 10 turns and is basically almost decimated with no way to replenish.

>great power
So they don't want to trade and might go to war with me because i'm too powerful?

>>151206695
>he didn't convert to slavic paganism
there are mods that add fertility to sanitatiion buildings

>>151185225
>dozens of galaxies
Did you mean star systems?
If were talking about the whole setting, then no, a total war game probably wouldn't be able to capture it all. Mostly due to the differences in scale, as in there can be a million guardsmen in a campaign, supported by probably anywhere from 1k-10k space marines. If space marines were to be a faction of their own, then everyone of those space marines would have to be primarch-level strong to be equal to a million guardsmen. Now, you could have space marines be a part of the greater imperial military faction (making them the specialized elite units waaay up in the tech tree), but GW/fanboys wouldn't want that since they are THE spess mehreens
A campaign focused on a single planet/star sector could work though, but then it might be TW:DoW (and still would be a nightmare to balance if you want to stay true with the fluff).

I AM PRINCE AND ________

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>>151207274
ARTIST

>>151207070
>cheating

No thanks. It's funny you should mention that though, I did convert to graeco-roman paganism and even with the +2 sanitation bonus I still barely maintain sanitation. I can't image what kind of problems I'd have right now if I stuck with arian christianity

>>151207274
VAMPIRE

>>151207418
>mods
>cheating
kek
>arian christianity
you'd get food

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>>151188523