/4xg/ - Stellaris, Civilization, RTS and 4x General

First for berzerkfags getting BTFO.

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Perhaps this livens things up.

>>150965629
>page 8
Or not.

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I think the leaked Tech/Civics trees have a lot to discuss.

For example, you can apparently use casus belli in wars now and you can have actual alliances (as opposed to friendship or defensive pacts) with other civs.

So is Endless Space worth it? Endless Legend is kicking my ass and boring.

>>150966609
In Civ6?

>>150965629
Roll.exe

>>150967476
Not really.

>>150967825
I assume regional means Scrambled Nations?

>>150968334
Dammit. I love games taking place in space.

>>150967612
yes
>>150966609
im liking how they at least fleshed out the diplomacy a bit. now it even makes sense for the player to denounce others, so they dont take such a crazy warmonger penalty. also nice that early game warmonger penalties dont really matter later on.

>>150968774
For all the shit I gave Endless Legend, I kinda like how they handle diplomacy.
I have yet to try espionnage though.

>>150968774
Finally we can bring God's judgement upon the filthy heathens without being stamped as bloodthirsty warmongers.

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>>150969028
Lich please.

How do I properly make an aggressive slaver empire in Stellaris?

>>150969759
Militarist Spiritualist and Collectivist. Repugnant trait w/ communal. Go despotic empire or something.

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>>150966609
Why is Ideology so low tech cost comparably, also what do you think the quotes for these will be?

what did adam smith say?
>>150972174
its obviously wip, considering people were asked not to show anything off past the medieval era.

>>150972174
Doesn't suffrage go hand in hand with communism?

/4xg/ I need to stop playing games I've played a ton already and start playing the various 4x games I've bought and haven't touched so I come to you with a question!

Which should I play,
Dominions 4 or Distant Worlds Universe?

Holy fuck I can't wait for the Stellaris expansion.

>>150974558

Any news of what it is?

>>150974627

And When?

>>150974627
>>150974789
No.

>>150974361
I may be biased because I only played one but go with Distant Worlds. You can automate whatever you like and the AI is not even that terrible while you get the hang of how things work, then go full immersion. Only thing that is missing is ground combat micro but even then there's enough factors to keep it interesting.

Stellaris 1.3 neverever

So we're dead until the Civ VI release. There's literally nothing to discuss other than non-4x games and Paradox being a shit studio.

>>150978765
thats how its been for months

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>/gsg/ers will never know the joys of both blobbing and developing beautiful island cities

If only the game was more sandboxy desu lads. I'd build towns for fucking hours on end.

>>150978765
I guess we gotta wait until October 21 when the game finally drops to be relevant.

>>150965629
#YOLO

>>150965629
Roll I guess

>>150979252
Developping cities and watching them grow is the best part of Endless Legend.

And by "best part", I mean "only good part".

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>>150978765

>not playing the literal best 4X game out right now

>>150979865
meh. lack of unit variety makes it too much of a hero rpg for me to really enjoy. the city building is pretty nice, however.

>>150979994
It's pretty much CiV but better in all the essentials.

And if you're a challengefag you're in for a treat.

>>150979994
What bothers me is how specialized the factions are. For example, the basic broken lords unit (the stalwards, I thin) only get one-handed or two-handed swords. No spearmen, no archers.

So you're going to say "of course, you're supposed to assimilate neutrals to use as auxiliaries, you double hollow".
To which I say "yeah, well, your face looks wrong, you piece of shit."

>>150980259
>What bothers me is how specialized the factions are.
>Specialized factions aren't better than CiV's reskinned nation that gets a different ability and MAYBE a new aestethic every repackage

>>150979994
as >>150980259 points out, you need to learn to assimilate minor factions to expand the variety in your armies. There's also the matter of the Colossus things

Holy christ, how am I suppose to even find a mod in the archive, none of them are even properly named.
I just want the only white humans one they removed.

>>150980597
Colossus what now?

>>150980506
What I expected was something like Total War, where every faction has pikemen/swordsmen/archer, and only elite units are really unique.
I just have a really soft spot for lines of pikemen holding the line while archers are shooting over their heads.

>>150979865
Played it to death before the Forgotten pack was released, a little burned out on it.

>>150980865
Well, Endless Legend is supposted to be really High Fantasy ("High" as in intoxicated, not noble), especially as later on in the game everything gets really magic-punky to the point you have a medieval UN and magical fridges. There's no place in it for something as gritty as pike and shot.

>>150980865

the Guardians
learn what different minor factions offer and how their units work and you will have significantly more effective armies because you can actually set up what you described

>>150981083
Frankly, if I knew how bad the combat was and that pike and shot wasn't possible, I wouldn't have bothered getting it.
The town building system is fun, but the rest is annoying, and that problem with the AI constantly being behind me despite me having huge advantages really pisses me off.

>>150981214
Meh. I always go for the eyeless (the ranged healers) and the driders because Kumo.

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>>150981281
>AI constantly being behind me

What the fuck are you doing procrastinating here instead of working on your Large Hardon Collider duties faggot

>>150980597
thats fucking lame, though. I love the looks of some of the factions but they only have 3-4 units and you're forced to pick up all these shitty minor faction units.
>>150980506
thats perfectly fine because theres a huge amount of units to choose from.

>>150981373
I can't help it! I'm just bad at turn based games!
I don't sense the urgency, I'm ironically low to react to events, I neglect checking my building queues while fighting...
I'm just bad at these Civ games. I always end up micromanaging my towns and forget about the rest.

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has no one cracked the Stellaris: Plantoids DLC or what? i'm not buying that

>>150978765
Dead generals are the comfiest though so who cares.

>>150981450
>huge amount of units to choose from
Is it really a choice when most of them are so bad as to be unusable though?

>>150965629
rollan

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>>150981785

>>150982382
you forgot traits anon

>>150982709
It's bugged and wouldn't let me have them

>>150982223
They should reuse ideas from RPGs and RTS to be honest. To my knowledge, Endless Legend is the only game where you can have a paper/scissor/stone system by giving anti-infantry weapons to your units. Civ6 could benefit from having a similar system.

>>150983459
Hell they had something like that with SMAC. Sure most of your units ended up being glass cannons but mixed with a rock paper scissors system like you said it could work out pretty well.
>choose between type with infantry/horse
>weapons spear/bow/sword
>couple of optional slots to have unit come with certain promotions baked in at much increased production cost as well as a few unique upgrades not obtainable otherwise
Imagine being able to make spearmen with a caltrops upgrade preventing horse units from moving at full speed away from them.

Although that would probably result in an early game meta of horse archers until gunpowder just like in real life

>>150985169
>Imagine being able to make spearmen with a caltrops upgrade preventing horse units from moving at full speed away from them.
My hips are moving on their own.

What would be fun would be if you could have some synergies between the units.
For example (and I'm pulling that idea from Dark Souls), let's say you give torture tools to an infantry unit. Not weapons, but torture tools.
They cause less damage, but cause wounds and demoralize enemy units, who then would be more vulnerable to your fighting units.

>>150985480
Added bonus, you could get some super upgrades like nerve gas for huge anti infantry bonuses or salt the earth as a super pillage that completely rapes a tile into an unusable state. Except they carry huge diplomatic penalties and overuse using them at all will likely have the entire world after you.

>>150985986
Dunno about the salt the earth part, but I'd really like more synergy.
Especially in Civilization, since the 1 unit per tile system make placement so important, you would think units would get better bonuses if they're supported or flanked by friendlies, but no, the fight is extremely basic and relies more on the terrain.

>>150986197
I was just spitballing random shit. It'd certainly be nice to have options though with the more extreme ones being more polarizing with a huge benefit and equally large downside whether in production costs or diplomacy or a huge glaring weakness that can be easily exploited.

>>150986512
Well, Stellaris has upgrades like that. For example, you can build drones to upgrade your armies' attacks.
But they're just bonus, they don't unlock skills or anything of the sort.

Should I bother upgrading my transport ships?
How about science and construction? I don't imagine sensor range does anything for them but the auto-complete gives it to them.

>>150987113
What game?

I don't think Stellaris has transport ships, and Civ5 doesn't have sensors, so are you talking about Distant Worlds?

>>150987440
Stellaris.
The transport ships for when you embark armies.
Just like the science and construction ships they only have a fission reactor and piss poor defenses.
I was wondering if it's worth it to make them more expensive but upgrade their speed and all that.

>>150988576
Maybe their speed, yeah. Upgrading their defense probably isn't worth it.

Never noticed transports ships to be honest famalam.

>>150988576
It's worth upgrading them all. Transport shops is no contest because they cost zero: the best design in your Ship Designer spawns for free when armies lose planets. As for construction and science ships, the convenience of having them move about substantially faster (and therefore finish your mining stations / be able to get back to Assisting Research) more than makes up for the cost.

Man endless legend is fun as fuck. I wish I'd started playing it a lot earlier.

>>150967476
I think it's pretty good. It definitely has some room to improve though. Looking forward to Endless Space 2.

>>150979685
Agreed.

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I just finished my Fanatic Spiritualist / Xenophobic Birds with Divine Mandate.

What should I play next?

>>150989575
>>150979865
>>150980597
Glad to see Endless Legend getting the attention it deserves. I've really been enjoying the expansions since I picked them up during the Steam summer sale. Most recent game I put winters on anarchic difficulty. Watching my empire barely survive while several of the AIs slowly disintegrate during the ridiculous winters is really fun.

>>150988818
Shit.
I've forgotten about assist research.
70 years into the game and I still have 2 science ships.
Well, one now. The other exploded.

>>150990836
2 is the correct number. Your leader slots are better reserved for governors than >5 scientists

>>150990269

try to win using not collectivist or xenophobe

>>150991041
>>150990836
As I get a bit bigger and start seeing more options for increased number of leaders I will start running around with 3 or 4 science ships since it can take a very long time to get a science ship across the empire to scan debris or survey a star system. But, that's usually not until at least 70 to 100 years in.

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I've been away from my gaming computer for a month.

Has Paradox added glassing yet?

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>>150924004
HOL' UP
YOU BE SAYIN' WE WUZ ASTRONAUTS AND KANGZ AND SHIET

>>150965629
lesgo

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So I have been playing Civ V for 30+ hours (in anticipation for Civ VI) and I know the basic concepts, but some advanced stuff still escapes my control.
Is there a comfy video guide for concepts like great persons, faith and religion, diplomacy, trading, caravans, etc.
I watched Quill18's videos of basic stuff and I understood yhr basics, but he doesn't have more tutorials.

>>150992176
there's a mod called exterminatus that does

>>150992771
What do you mean? How things like great people and stuff work? Or how best to use them and specialists and stuff?

>>150993348
Things like that.
What are specialists? How are great people exactly generated? How useful are they? Should I concentrate in them?
I have this kind of questions in almost every "advanced aspect of Civ V. I know abou the Carls guide, but I'm looking for someone that shows what he explains.

>>150992771
If you're doing this in anticipation for ciVI then those things are changing a lot and it's not really worth it.

Personally I've learned a lot about ciV from watching streamers like BabaYetu and Filthyrobot, but they focus on multiplayer and not on how to deal with the AI. Might be better to watch someone like Marbozir.

>>150992771
Just watch an actual playthrough then.
Also it's usually fine to leave your cities on auto-pilot except in the beginning where you're trying to squeeze things out.
They'll focus on the great people for you.

Daily EIGHT DOLLAR PLANT PORTRAITS post

Eight. Dollar. Portraits.

>>150997954
>$8 is £6.11
>only £5 in britain
Based Brexit

>>150992771
Filthyrobot has some great guides on youtube that really helped smarten my game up. Like >>150995115 says he's mostly multiplayer but a lot of the concepts like why certain beliefs are good etc transfer over so they're still excellent for single player understanding.

Here's his religion video. It's long as fuck though over an hour but he covers literally every belief in the game in it with in depth reasoning on why certain ones are OP as shit and others are garbage you want to avoid with a 10ft pole. His other videos are equally long but equally in depth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R42Xtr2Vfww

One thing I don't recall hearing in his videos is how important internal trade routes are. An internal land route early on with a granary up is 6 food which is a farm on floodplains wheat out of nowhere which is pretty insane growth to give to a city. And more population=more science which is ridiculously important.

>>150992771
>>150993693
Brace you'reself.

>What are specialists?
Certain buildings like the market or workshop or university or the 3 guilds come with specialist slots. If you put a citizen in the slot instead of having them work a tile in your empire they will generate points towards your great people and earn a yield associated with the great person (scientist specialists yield science, merchant specialists yield gold). Eventually a great person will be born, what you do with that great person is up to you.
>Great Prophets
You can found a religion or enhance one, spread your religion, or create a holy site on the tile they are on. You probably want to found a religion and then enhance with your first 2. After that it's up to you. If you have full piety then I would recommend creating holy sites with your prophets, otherwise spread the religion.
>Great Scientists
You should prioritize getting these if you can. They are useful all of the time. They can either create an academy or generate science equal to the last 8 turns. In the early game you want to plant academies, after that you want to bulb them for science.
>Great Engineers
These are slightly less important that scientists, but are still important. They can either hurry production in a city, or create a manufactory. You usually want to just hurry production for a wonder, but sometimes you want to plant the manufactory. The production is based off of your city population, so a 3 pop city won't be able to one-turn a late game wonder. If you get one early then you should plant it unless you have a powerful early or midgame wonder in mind.
>Great Merchant
These generally aren't that useful. If you do get one you should probably plant the customs house, but if there's a city state that has some luxuries that you need for other city state quests or a king's day in your capital then you should do the trade mission with that city state if it will get you to ally status, or you just need short term gold.

>>150998442
>Great Artists
Can start a golden age or make a great work of art. Unless you want to do a culture victory then you should just do golden ages whenever possible. If you get a great artist before renaissance/industrial era try to save it until you get there since the production boost during that time when you have a ton of stuff to build is really good.
>Great Writers
Can generate culture or make a great work of writing. Again, unless you want to do a culture victory, just generate culture. The culture is equal to the last 8 turns worth of culture, so doing them on the last turn of a golden age is really good, also consider saving them until you get to ideologies so you can get the first 3 or 4 tenants.
>Great Musicians
Doodoo, avoid generating these unless you want to win a culture victory. They can only create great works of music or perform concerts in other people's territory which makes a lot of tourism for everyone.
>Great Generals and Admirals
These aren't made by specialists, they are earned through combat. They give a 15% combat bonus to units within 2 tiles of them, and generals can be planted to create a citadel which steals adjacent tiles and makes them part of your empire. Admirals can be bulbed to repair boats around it, kind of useless.

>>150998540
>Tips for planting great people
You should plant them on tiles that you are already working, duplicate luxuries or strategic or bonus resources. If you plant them on a strategic resource you gain that strategic resource. Avoid planting them on fresh water tiles (tiles adjacent to rivers or lakes) since you generally want to make those into farms, and if you are planting them on a quarry resource, make sure you've already built the stone works in that city if you can.
If you've made a lot of great people and are running out of tiles to plant you should prioritize grassland>plains>hills>fresh water stuff in that order.

>>150998668
>Religion
You generate faith to get a pantheon, then a great prophet to found a religion. After that you can either get another great prophet, or missionaries and inquisitors or faith buildings or great people depending on your policies.
You should try to build a shrine in the very early game to at least get a pantheon, even if you don't plan on getting a religion. The pantheons can be broken down into 2 groups, faith generating and non-faith generating. If you get a faith generating pantheon you are probably looking to get a religon, while the non-faith generating pantheons will give you an early game boost while being as likely to get you a religion (unless you are ethiopia or the celts or maya). If you see a really good faith generating one like desert folklore or earth mother you should take that, otherwise go for one of the other ones. The tundra pantheon is terrible, don't get it. When in doubt, take God-King.
When you get a religion you usually want to take one of the 3 gold generating founder beliefs since they are much better than the other ones. Tithe > church property > initiation rites. After that you usually want a building to spend your faith on. Pagodas are the clear best building, followed by mosques. Cathedrals are really mediocre and monasteries are terrible unless you combo it with the wine and incense pantheon and have a lot of the stuff. Other good beliefs are the religious community one, or feed the world, or any of the other happiness ones.

>>150998787
>Diplomacy and Trading
Just don't do it. The AI is finickity and retarded. In the early game you can usually trade one of your duplicate luxuries for one of theirs. Try and trade embassies too, and when they start harassing you for open borders just accept it since they will keep harassing you, there's no drawback since they usually don't ever come into your land and they'll stop harassing you about it. Whenever you do something that upsets them say "We're sorry this has caused a divide between us." then ignore them and keep doing whatever you were doing. Eventually you will get to a point where the overvalue their luxuries and won't trade evenly with you so just ignore them at that point. Some AIs are massive cunts. Augustus and Alexander will settle every tile on the map eventually. Askia, Attila and Shaquille O'Neal will attack you every 20 turns. Genghis Khan will conquer that city state you were allies with. Dido will make a public declaration of friendship with you, then denounce you the next turn. Just ignore them whenever possible and do your own thing.

>>150998908
>Caravans
Most of the time you want to just do internal trade routes. Feeding your capital or maybe some other underfed shithole corner of your empire. Try to get them as soon as possible without sabotaging your overall building goals.
You need a granary to send food trade routes and a workshop to send hammer trade routes. For the first 3/4 of the game you are sending food ones, for the last 1/4 you are sending hammer ones. If you are desperate for gold, or there is a trade route quest from a city state, you should trade with the city state once, or until your gold has stabilized. Cargo ships are better than Caravans in every way and you should build them over caravans if you can. Watch out for large patches of fog of war where barbarians could spawn and plunder your shit. It's annoying.

>General tips
Try to settle your cities on hills wherever possible, it gives one bonus hammer. Rivers are also really good. Another good thing to remember is that you can settle cities on resources, especially luxuries. The AI and the suggester thing that's in the game thinks this is a cardinal sin and will never do it, but it's often beneficial to do so, just avoid food bonus luxuries like deer or sheep or wheat if you can, since they don't contribute their yield to the city, while stone or luxuries or strategic resources do.
A general idea for settling a city is "will this city pay for itself before the game has ended?" if it will then settle it, if it won't then don't.
Get your national college as soon as you can, usually in your capital. It's really, really good. Get workshops as soon as you can, too. They are also really good. Other than that you should try to prioritise science buildings whenever you can.
More food is more citizens which is more science which is more everything.

Have fun.

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Why is EL dead
What went wrong

>>150965629
pls get qt

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>>150999920
ew no thanks. I'll keep playing my current game thank you very much. Ethiopia is disgusting

>>150999871
Apparently it is too hard for some people.

Interesting.

I'm China about to go to war with Mongolia and I just got gifted Ghengis Khan as a great person from a City-State.

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>>151000947
it's a ruse

>>151000947
>>151001213
In the news today Mongolia conquers China with China's own army.

>>150999019
Thanks for all the info, really useful. I'll definitely save it.
Civilizations games should have proper tutorials and not just advices. I mean the Civilopedia it's ok, but it is a mess.
Filtyrobot seems like the right guy to listen too, but like you said his videos are more focused on the multiplayer.

>first game of endless legend
>starting province has dyes
>so do 3 of the surrounding provinces
>making 10 dyes per turn permanent booster on
>+50% influence and +5 happiness empire wide forever
>have literally every empire plan available active
Well damn that's really fucking useful right there. Is luxury density always like this or is it usually more varied?

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Ummm?

>>151004181
steal their settler

>>151002487
Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes the region you're in and the surrounding ones have fuck all for anything.

>>150990269
Aurora 4X

Do more citizens add anything else to your city besides just being able to work tiles? Like border growth, city defence, etc.?

>>151007184
If you mean Civ V yes, everything. Civ 6 no idea but probably

>>151007315
Yeah meant Civ 5 and thanks. Always assumed they should just never bothered to look into it.

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Hello /4xg/, would anyone be interested in an Aurora AAR? It would be interactive as well

>>150992423
Is that wide as hell country in your continent Morocco? First time I see them do something successful

>>151007605
Conventional or Trans-Newtonian?

Endless Legend has the best music of any of your 4x shit games

Prove me wrong you fucking faggots

https://youtu.be/7HBI4aSzw0E

>>151007873
Well Rise of Nations is an RTS and blows it the fuck out.

>>151007687
Yea it is. I wouldn't call that successful. Most of them are <10 pop and either desert or jungle h*ckholes.

>>151007824
I'm inclined toward a conventional start due to the purposes of the AAR, however in the end, /4xg/ decides

>>151009383
Let's go conventional then
Let's see, can we do something autistic-like like naming spessship classes after Gods and such? I love theme naming.

>>151009383
Depends on how you want to show off the game.
I like conventional because you need to build up your research labs to fit your needs instead of having 20 of them to get super scientists along with completing massive leaps forward.

>>150998095
>Meanwhile it's 8€.
>Because 1€ is equal to 1$.
Fuck you Gaben.

>>151009549
Yes you can. You can also choose what Empire theme I choose and where the AAR goes
>>151009679
Yes, I agree as well. Conventional is a much comfier start

>>151009858
Don't forget how to harvest sorium.
I have to look that shit up every single time I play again.
It's a ridiculous manual process that's only alleviated by enormous fuel tankers so large that they only move at 600km/s.
Don't forget to empty their fuel to 11% (so the game doesn't bitch at you) otherwise you'll probably take all of Earth's fuel to Saturn for a nice tour around the Solar System.

>>151010424
Many thanks for the tip anon, will come in handy. Should I get a trip or wait and see if more people are interested?

>>151011049
Get a couple of screens ready and namefag.

>>151011668
Ok, it'll take me a few days to get everything set up, thank you

>>151011840
Leave the trip off for now I think unless someone tries to impersonate you. We'll remember this trip at least.
Also remember not to post with a name unless you're posting the game or talking about the game, it's incredibly obnoxious otherwise.

>>151011950
Yes, of course anon, I'm not a newfag

>>151012878
I wouldn't know. I forget which general I was in a while ago that had attention whoring namefags everywhere for a bit.

>>151012961
It was /dsg/. Or /edfg/. Or pretty much every general except for /nepgen/

>>151013165
No it wasn't, this was a namefag that was okay for a while but soon became insufferable. /mgqg/ had a few for a bit but that was oh so long ago.

>>150999871
I guess Amplitude is too small to keep pumping out content to keep people interested in the game.

Nevertheless I bought it two days ago and am still having a blast by just playing an expansion-centered game.

>>151013225
>this was a namefag that was okay for a while but soon became insufferable
Can you be even more vague? Because I don't know of any tripfag/namefag that isn't insufferable.

>>150966609
Does anyone have links to the leaked trees? I am intrigued.

My sectors have started building military bases even when I didn't put them on military focus.
I like it, but it's just wierd after not seeing it in all previous games.

Reminder that this is the sound of your bane.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ClUQXbOdHE

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I've never played as the Mayans before and only noticed they use the Mayan calendar in-game.

Why do I find this little feature so charming. Civilization is my favorite game.

>>151013304
Mainly, one that was using it properly for a while but soon used it for every fucking post.

>>151013710
>10 b'ak'tun, 0 k'atun, 9 tun, 17 winal, 2 k'in
WHAT

>>151012961
Sounds like /gsg/

>>151013979
Doesn't sound right
AARlad is the only 'new' tripfag there

>>151013710
It's a pretty cool detail. Also I think Mayans had something related to 2012, I don't remember what. Could be an achievement or something like that

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Are there any Theodora SFMs?

>>151015086
>lifeblood of civilization
>implying

>>151013710
>>151013829
what the fuck year is that? I can't work it out

>>151015183
it literally says 840 ad below that

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>>151015183
>840 AD in the rest of the world
You blind bitch

>>151015247
kek I didn't see that

>>151015167
Alright, listen to me you pole-proportioned dendrophile!
If you keep talking shit about the sexiest bitch in the history of mankind, I'm gonna take your fucking computer and shove it inbetween yer polished fingernails!
I am going to take that limp dick of yours and string you up by your fucking foreskin until gravity gives you a botched circumcision and play it like a fucking violin before hanging you with it!
I'm going to headbutt you until there is nothing but a butt left!
I'm going to colour that little pansy green skirt red using yer fucking bone marrow!
You better believe you're going to wish you were never born, 'cause I'll make it seem like you never were, you atrocious fucking boil on the face of reality!

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>>151016040
Someone thinks they're hot shit.

>>151016116
Alright, listen to me you blue-haired horned bitch!
If you keep sassing me, I'm gonna break that horn of and use it as a dildo that I'll shove in your womanhood while fucking you in the ass until you love it!
I'm going to shave your head clean and use it as a beacon to call upon alien life!
I'm going to strip you naked and throw you in a wiggling mass of NEETs to see how long you last against the embodiment of lust!
I'll whip your ass with a bamboo cane until you end up begging for more, and then I'll stop so that you're on pain on top of being frustrated!
I will kick you in the face so hard you'll need a fucking periscope to see anything at all!

>>151016306
>If you keep sassing me, I'm gonna break that horn of and use it as a dildo that I'll shove in your womanhood while fucking you in the ass until you love it!
Kiyohime would love that.

>I'm going to shave your head clean and use it as a beacon to call upon alien life!
You're not powerful enough to.

>I'm going to strip you naked and throw you in a wiggling mass of NEETs to see how long you last against the embodiment of lust!
She'd literally turn into a dragon and scourge the world save for you.

>I'll whip your ass with a bamboo cane until you end up begging for more, and then I'll stop so that you're on pain on top of being frustrated!
She'd force herself on you.

>I will kick you in the face so hard you'll need a fucking periscope to see anything at all!
You'd only break your leg.

>>151016382
>implying
Hentai doujins taught me one thing : nothing can stand against the might of a male.

>>151015167
She's a vapid whore, but if she got into her head that she somehow IS the Byzantine state; then she is correct from that perspective.

>>151018947
Alright, listen to me you, you woman-hating homo freak.

>>151019103
I'm listening.

>>150998442
>spreading faith with Prophet
That's a thing you should avoid. Spread faith with missionaries early, then if needed buy faith buildings. Unless you went for Piety and/or Messiah enhancer/reformation (dont remember which one is it) you should avoid spawning more than 1 Prophet over the 2 you used for religion.

>>151004883
impossible, he'll settle right where he stands and Swordsman is too tough for Jaguars.

I fucking hate Pocatello and Hiawatha bullshit.

Anyway, are you guys looking forward to VI? If so, how much?

I think I got over the art style and I'm pretty hyped for the mechanics they introduced. They seem to take fuckloads from the board game on V's license, like Great People having their own bonuses and being contested.

If Barbarossa gets something like crusaders as UU I'm buying it only for sending waves of them after fucking Saladin and living the AoE2 dream in Civ series.

>>151020034
>Hiawatha
this motherfucker I hate him too. Spreads like a virus

>>151020198
The art style only really looked bad with the first batch of screenshots.
Still not really a fan of the leaders, but the map and actual game itself look great.

>>151020198
>>151020438
I'm broadly getting used to it. Actually in some aspects it reminds me of a more colorful and cheery version of Civ IV's style.

>>151020438
out of the leaders I like the fixed Roosevelt and Hojo. I also think Cleopatra is quite hot. But Montezuma looks like a guy who dressed like a bush in a Looney Tunes cartoon and wants to catch Bugs or that ostrich

>>151021237
>that ostrich
Who?

>>151021237
>>151021309
Daffy Duck.

>>151021309
Road runner

>>151021462
It's a duck, not an ostrich.

>>151021473
yeah, road runner, it is called in a stupid way in my country and I didn't bother to check.
Anyway that's the only thing I can think of when I look at Civ VI Montezuma, that if he turned back you'd see a suspiciously looking bush

>>151021237
Cleopatra's lips look a bit silly to me.

>>151021864
I bet they look better wrapped around my dick

>>151022679
Maybe. But now we'll never know.

will you be able to play modded multiplayer in civ 6?

>>151022717
I dunno, there are people able to rebuild a face with just a skull. If we can get our hands on Cleopatra's skull...

This just in on Heinlein update:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-40-heinlein-patch-part-1.961848/

>Some time in October

fuck

>>151022801
real life Cleopatra was inbred as fuck, I don't have the family tree handy but it looks like babbys first CK2 game. Her being a 10/10 is roman memes

>>151022791
Most likely

>>151023036
>it looks like babbys first CK2 game
How rude. I remembered to marry all my kids outside the family.

That's why I got the King of France claiming Ireland as his clay and lose my first game.

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>barbarians taking over city states
this just won't do

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Is this basically a Europe?

>>151024823
Mountain formations are wrong, but you could call it that.

>>151024823
>>151024894
Let me amend that actually. The Pyrenees are a tad small, but it works. There's even space in there for Andorra, which the Celts seem to be doing the job of.
I can't see Italy enough to determine if you have the Alps or not. I thought the land east of Samoa was the start of the peninsula, hence my original post. I see now from the global map that I was wrong.

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>>151024823
After a long war with Huns I finally overwhelmed them.
>>151024894
I meant in "several civs crammed in a small space" way.

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>Denmark has lost it's capital
>Genghis Khan now controls the most original capitals
mother fucker has 17 cities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRm3X7B0D24

>>151025324
If that's TSL game your Mongolia must be strong as hell, though not really unrealistically, they did come pretty close to Denmark

>>151026990
Nigga please. I know what I'm doing.

Is there any working multyplayer crack for Hearts of Iron IV?

>>151028286
>multyplayer crack
No.

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>>151022810
And for those who don't want to go to their website to look at it, see pic.

>>151028625
>a TECHNOLOGY to be able to automate

>>151028625
Ha, nobody "respectfully disagree".

>>151023036
Wasn't part of Cleopatra's supposed attraction her intellect? IIRC she was a polyglot, well versed into philosophy, a good ruler, and just smart.

>>151028785
Idiots think inbreeding automatically means inbred not knowing that you can safely fuck your sister for a lifetime and have like 95% no issues at all.

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>>151028730

>>151028785
Meh.
I speak three languages, I read Plato, I win often at CKII, and yet I still have trouble finding a girl.

>>151028887
;^)

>>151028897
I still can't get over how FUCKING RETARDED this is. It looks like a deviantartard-tier shitty RP forum where you're not allowed to disagree.

Is there a "Wish you got raped by kebabs" button?

>>151028898
They're supposedly attractive qualities in women, especially in a time when most were just supposed to be there to spew out kids. It was expected of men.

>>151028898
She was charismatic as fuck.

>>151028897
>1/6 of the game -> 20$
>full game -> 120 burgers
???

>>151028887
I agree with this, this is one of the most popular cases of people not knowing what the hell they're talking about yet still talk about it like they're completely sure of it and immediately disregard anything opposing that

I never had any incest feelings, but I know this because two of my friends are actually inbred and are normal people

>>151029052
And these feminists cunts keep whining about impossible beauty standards.

>>151029112
"The less they know about it, the more they talk about it." - Cleopatra, probably.
Same things with lemmings, hypnosis, or that "we only use 10% of our brain capacity" myths.

>>151028319
Fuck

>>151028887
True, and things get "less bad" if it's more distant relatives too. Cousin marriage is still common in many parts of the world. It generally only truly goes bad if done for generations (Habspoops). Ultimately it's a game of chance that based on how many shitty genes are in the family to begin with.

>>151029114
We're talking about 40BC here lad.

>>151026990
Nah wasn't true start

>>151029259
It's the price to pay.
You have the game for free, you can play as much as you want, but only against the AI.

>>151029347
And? I'm sure they had Internet back then.

>>151028887
Worst meme is that if you live in an island, even if it has millions of people, you're inbred.
Usually comes from Americans whose ancestors married their cousins, or from actually inbred Arabs and Pakis.

>>151029419
t. British

>>151029419
t. Japanese

>>151029419
t. Manhattan citizen

>>151029419
t. Iceland

>>151029419
t. Australia

What's the best civ in AoE2 to counter knight rushes? Or should I just learn to rush faster than the other guy?

>>151030738
Goths and spearmen.

Yeah.

City state was conquered by barbarians. I just conquered them and have the usual options plus can liberate them. If I annex it is there any penalty to me? and can I later liberate it similar to how you can later raze annexed cities?

Hey, don't post here much, I'm just wondering something:
Me and my friend plays comp stomps a lot, and I was wondering, is there a way to play a online mutliplayer game with a duel sized map but with 10 civs?

>>151031140
Too much blogging.

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>page 10

>>151030738
Just scout and wall if you're that intent on booming.
Knight rushes aint so bad to be honest. archer rush is more annoying.

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Which king it is?

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>mfw I did it and replaced most of Age of Empires 2's sounds with Dark Souls'
>all death screams are replaced by the "You Died" thrudeath.wav
I HAVE MADE A MISTAKE

>>151033764
The king that keeps up their supply of chocolate while they burn

>>151033764
That map looks like a shitfest

>>151033893
>>151033764
>Sure, the invaders are killing or men and rape our daughters, but at least the market has perfume!

>>151021237
>I also think Cleopatra is quite hot.
How the fuck

>>151034847
This sounds too familiar desu

>>151031140
I think there is a mod for it.

>>151029236
>"The less they know about it, the more they talk about it." - Cleopatra, probably.
How about:
>The wise speak because they have something to say, while fools speak because they have to say something.
- Plato

>>151030738
You basically have to boom-FC if the opponent is FC'ing.
Chinese are okay, they get camels and cheaper researches for EVERYTHING meaning you're less likely to have to choose between pikemen and three more spears.
Vikings get extra HP on their infantry, including pikemen.

>>151036328
>Chinese are okay, they get camels
... what?

>>151036410
The Chinese get camels in the stable, what do you not understand?

>>151036458
The fact that camels are african creatures, and that China is pretty far from Africa.

>>151036531
>The fact that camels are african creatures
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactrian_camel

>>151036630
Oh.

Well, that makes sense then.

>>151036531
>Camels are African creatures
First off, "no".
>A camel is an even-toed ungulate within the genus Camelus, bearing distinctive fatty deposits known as "humps" on its back. The two surviving species of camel are the dromedary, or one-humped camel (C. dromedarius), which inhabits the Middle East and the Horn of Africa; and the Bactrian, or two-humped camel (C. bactrianus), which inhabits Central Asia.
>Central Asia
Second off, there's so many fucking techs the Chinese literally INVENTED that they don't get for balance reasons.
Block Printing.
Bombard Cannon.
Hand Cannoneer.
Siege Engineers.
Fuck even the Parthian Shot if you count Yuan as China.

>>151036750
Wasn't that because they preferred rockets over bullets?

>>151036954
No, they deployed infantry with early hand cannons during the Red Turban Rebellion. They just used rocket artillery, grenades, and land mines too.

>want to discuss /gs/ games
>TALEX GRANDI
Fucking hell. Cobra and Turk legitimately didn't even come close.

Why are huge maps in Civ5 so fucking terrible? It seems like they spread the luxuries extremely thin, to the point where I get maybe one other decent city location near my capital and everything else is just empty space with food nodes like camps or bananas and nothing else. Even if there are some nearby, chances are they spawned a city state on it. It makes expanding a pain in the dick. I have to either play the city state game or hope there's some neighbors to conquer nearby with an early war, which on a huge map isn't very likely. I want to clear the achievement for all map sizes but goddamn this is hell.

>>151036750
You watched that video today too huh?

>>151037195
No. I'm Chinese.

>>151037265
Well. That works too I guess.

Do you understand what the Chinese say in AoE2?

>>151037164
It's not that huge maps are terrible. It's that global happiness is fucking retarded way of balancing expansion.

>>151037323
Ye
They speak modern mandarin, not middle Chinese. I could understand that too because I'm a historyboo but yeah, anyone could if they knew basic Chinese.

>>151037394
Meanwhile, the Frank unit speak olde French.
I want my money back.

What the gell does "montjoie" even means anyway?

>>151030738
First of all, you should scout the Krush. If you see opponent have a stable and dig a lot of gold in Feudal (and Scout Rush isn't happening) then he will likely Krush, especially if you're against Franks (it's pretty much their only option) or Persia or any good cavalry civ.

Then you have 2 options, either go for a couple of Spearmen or wall up. Don't go Pikemen, those resources aren't worth it, unless the guy is stupid enough to continue the knight spam. If he does then he lost because iirc a Knight is sth like 60f 75g and 2 spears that can wreck a knight are dead cheap and don't cost gold.
That's why Byzantines are a good noob civ, they're very defensive and have cheaper counter units.
Speaking of counter units, if you can you can also buy a couple Camels, they're anti-Knight. But do it only if the opponent is going hard into knights.

>>151037591
>Don't go Pikemen, those resources aren't worth it
Franks rarely have anything but Knight + Skirmisher / Archer as rushing options though. Chinese pikes are cheap as fuck to research to and you'll be using them later anyway

>>151037070
wasn't it Yellow Turban Rebellion? Or were there multiple chromatic Turban Rebellions?

also, yeah, I love China in AoE2 but I kind of hate the bullshit lack of gunpowder.

>>151037698
Chroma Squad : Turban Edition.

>>151037698
Yellow Turbans was against Han
Red Turbans was against Yuan 1100 years later
It technically means "red [head]cloth army", because they were peasants.

>>151037591
Didn't Spears suck against Knights? Because you need 4 or so to actually kill a Knight?
Anyway, this sounds like Ethophians are good because free Pikemen upgrade and camels.

>>151037692
let's not assume we're facing shit like Franks every time.
Franks are bottom tier because of how forced they are into going for Knights. Can't say about African Kingdoms though, because it shook things a little.
When facing a more flexible civ you generally shouldn't be easily baited to invest many resources into sth like Pikes early, and Chinese should go hard for archers or straight for CKN anyway, unless you're doing Knights yourself which is good as Chinese up until late Imperial when you're missing Paladins.

>>151037840
I will get back to AoE2:WWK in a bit, I think. Ethiopians are very good Archer rush civ, at least on paper. I remember some easy wins with them before I quit playing AoE last year.

>>151037840
they dont really suck considering they do 15 bonus damage to them. you have to mass them out but theres no other viable counter to knights outside of knights of your own, and its easy as hell to mass out spears. especially since you should always make a couple in the feudal age to stave off a possible scout rush.

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>>151037926
>shit like Franks
Bitch I'll murder you.

>>151037926
As Chinese I've found turtling to be a good tactic especially on the ever-popular BF, African Kingdoms made their already excellent walling abilities Byzantine-tier and CKN next to a castle can do Longbow tiers of withering damage

>>151037840
Spears are cheap as fuck and they do 16 damage minimum to cav. Castle Pikemen do 23 damage minimum, up to 28 if the upgrades line up correctly.

>>151037840
And yes, Ethiopians are very good against krush, but if an opponent tries to krush Ethiopia you will most likely win anyway 'cause he's stupid.

Spears are not terrible against Knights after Forging, but I may remember it badly. Stone Walls are certainly better.

>>151038173
Stone wall + 5 archers fletching tower for life desu

>>151038101
They're insanely predictable though and almost everyone has access to acceptable counter-cav.
They also get mashed against the other one-trick pony, the Goths.

>>151038310
Let's see you talk shit again with an axe embedded in your head.

>>151038124
I hate BF with a passion. Arabia is where it's at. BF is just a test of who mastered booming to imperial better and it favors gunpowder heavy civs.

When you're doing 3v3 or 4v4 BF it's just a lottery. I know I can do the boom in the fastest time in 90% of games because most of the players can't be bothered to autistically reproduce TaToH video, and I can be. So depending on the average boom time of my team I either win or loose, because 1 player isn't enough to slay all the others.

>>151038337
E. Chu ko nu even do more damage to rams you idiot. Frankish Axemen are shit as fuck.

>>151037265
Yeah the historical knowledge isn't strange, just kinda weird that you specifically knew which techs they missed out on.

I'm referring to this that was uploaded earlier today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDneKa6TSFM

>>151038214
defensive towers should be only reactionary, offensive towers are hilarious. They're also a way to beat the hardest AI the cheesy way because AI can't into tower rush

>>151038415
Alright, listen to me you pole lover homo freak!
If you keep up trashtalking manly men throwin axes, I'm gonna take your fucking bolts and shove them inbetween yer polished fingernails!
I am going to take that bowstring of yours and string you up by your fucking foreskin until gravity gives you a botched circumcision and play it like a fucking violin!
I'm going to headbutt you until there is nothing but a butt left!
I'm going to colour that little pansy green skirt red using yer fucking bone marrow!
You better believe you're going to wish you were never born, 'cause I'll make it seem like you never were, you atrocious fucking boil on the face of reality!

>>151038398
>it favors gunpowder heavy civs.
Goths are fucking insane on BF though even without gunpowder. There's just too many fucking Huskarls and halberds.

>>151038440
Ah. No I know because I'm pissed we're not stronger than every other civ in the game by a country mile like we should be.

>>151038337
Axemen are trash. Chu-Ko-Nus make more damage to rams because of hidden 0 melee attack.

It's hilarious how they mow them down.

>>151038536
Japan is better than you and funnier to play.
Samurais are more interesting units than Chu Ko Nu.

There's a reason Sega made two Shogun Total War games and not a single Romance of the Three Kingdoms Total War.

>>151038520
>defensive towers should be only reactionary
Putting one up near your lumber camp or gold is a good way to deter archer rushes especially on maps that aren't wide fucking open like Arabia. Also if you're lucky you can nick the guy's scout.

>>151038625
>Samurai are more interesting units than chu ko nu
They better be, since they're an entire social class as opposed to the CKN which was a weapon used in basically one or two special circumstances.

>Japan is better than you
t. Abe

>>151038536
not as insane as Spain though. Anyway, BF is a single-tactic map and a snooze fest.

>>151038706
Poortugal is even worse, they have that organ gun thing which is like the onager version of a hand cannon.
Also I didn't say I liked it but it's popular.

>>151038690
it's also the greatest way to delay your castle and extra Town Centers with 125 stone down the drain. But to each his own, I guess

>>151038536
Hahah.
Wasn't China typically infested by retarded bureaucracy alongside small scale internal conflict and corruption.
If that isn't the case then I'm not sure what justification there can be for China never really projecting power outside of its borders consistently.

Goths should beat absolutely everyone else 1v1 given enough resources to fuel their endless spam. The only thing that really topples them on boom maps are factions with really hardcore power upon critical mass, like Turkish Janissaries and shit.

I have the problem with CiV and Stellaris that tech goes too fast . In CiV there's the game speed modifier, but that also modifies the speed of all the building. It would be nice if you could modify just the tech speed. Likewise, in Stellaris you'll have pretty much all the needed techs in a century, at which point the game is far from over though.

>>151038536
goths are honestly one of the more broken civs if you dont take account of their lack of defense
they barely have any melee armor but the fact that you can just churn out any unit you need from the barracks with their insane 2x bonus+20% team bonus, as well as huskarls having fucking 10 pierce armor by default, means that castles mean literally nothing to them, as well as their pretty fast movespeed
its great

>>151038785
It doesn't require so much thought, dexterity or knowledge of the game and counters as open maps. Of course it's popular.

"There is no expedient to which a man will not go to avoid the labor of thinking."

For me you can either play AoE2 and have some excitement or just wait for you 100 fully upgraded paladins and clash it with other 100 paladins until one of the sides flinches and looses.

>>151038625
No but seriously,
Japan was basically strictly inferior to chinks during the time period covered. The only reason the Chinese didn't absolutely fucking dominate them, even when the nips had Euroguns, was because they were out of money to pay their troops and bureaucratic shit got in the way.
This ain't even wank or anything.

>>151038834
I dunno. I don't always do it but it pays off often seeing how often people rush in 1v1. The defensive tower just eats archers and knights can be picked apart by pikes.

>>151038858
Yeah. Retarded bureacracy, populists, tax bullshit, faction struggle, whatever.

>>151039000
>>151038858
The literal only way to kill goths 1v1 is to be one of those civs that can just spam their unique unit and kill everything (jannisaries, cataprachts maybe if you can produce them enough) or rush them. If you fail to rush them and let them get to imperial boom you're fucked.

>>151038971
Check one of the historical speed mods for Civ V

>>151039085
>Japan was basically strictly inferior to chinks
t. Chinese propaganda

The only good Chinese thing back then was all the different polearms they developped.
Glaives for the win.

>>151039254
>the only good chinese thing back then was...
Was everything, if we're speaking peak Ming. They had heavy cavalry, they had mongol auxiliaries, they had guns, they had pikes, they had fire-by-rank, they had crossbows, they had longbows and composite bows yumi are shit, they had grenades and cannon and rockets and landmines and ships that could eat galleons alive.

>>150965629
Rollex

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>>151039361
This is too stacked to not.

>>151039349
>implying crossbows are good
They look like shit.
If it wasn't mandatory in order to be good in AoE2, I'd keep archers over crossbowmen.

Lads I'm away from my computer and the autism is hitting me hard, what are the planets you can colonize for 60% as a Desert Preference?

>>151039483
>They look like shit
Chinese ones are huge though. They even had iron sights.
Also the chinks were using Mongol bows during Ming, which is superior to the yumi.

>>151039085
>The defensive tower just eats archers

I think I know where you're coming from, but I just think of AoE2 as a game of instant counters and calculating resources. A defensive tower - to me - means that I should cease attacking (at least in the protected area, ESPECIALLY with Archers) and try to be faster to Castle age and make use of the fact that you spent 125 stone and I didn't and build additional Town Centers before you, have more Villagers than you and snowball off that.

If I wanted to keep harassing you in protected area I'd consider switching to Skirms. Or would send villagers to another resource area of yours and build an offensive tower (so now we're on equal footing with regards to Stone but I have an edge because I'm denying you something).

But of course it's all very circumstancial, and I'm not an active player now so I won't be stubborn about it if it works for you

>>151039573
It's definitely a gamble but players are surprising negligent in scouting. Also, rushes are usually like, say, 4 knights or 6 archers or something. That's a LOT of gold.

>>151039573
Not him, but what a fucking bore.
I'd rather stay a casual rather than getting good but having to do math all the time.

>>151039546
Europeans crossbows are huge too. They're named ballistas.

>>151039652
>Europeans crossbows are huge too. They're named ballistas.
Those are artillery pieces. In fact, the european crossbow was originally called the 'hand ballista' by the Romans.

>I'd rather be casul than think
Wait are you just spouting memes? Opinion discarded.

>>151039573
Not him but I think the way it works is that a defensive tower frees him up to not make archers for the defended zone. Feudal towns are tiny, one tower can cover like half the town. If you actually made any archers you just essentially wasted those resources, and offensive towers if detected are easily thwarted. Towers don't get murder holes until a few minutes into castle at earliest, you could even send a lone pikeman to tear it down.

Just installed Stellaris, /4xg/, what is in the DLC folder? I don't understand a thing

>>151040087
The plantoid overpriced piece of shit.

>>151039918
You don't make defensive archers, you defend with Skirmishers and pikes.

And you shouldn't make anything 'just in case', especially not a tower. That just means you are not scouting yourself.

On standard resources you have 200 stone, enough to build 2 town centers in castle age without mining any. If you build a tower which the opponent can just ignore you just force yourself into mining stone that would be better spent for Town Centers which protect and expand your lands better than a single tower, not to mention that in AoE2 the player who has better villager production generally wins.

>>151040180
Can you explain please? I just got the game and am creating a faction now

>>151000102

>Ethiopa is disgusting

That fucking country has the most beautiful black women on the planet.

Don't talk shit about Ethiopia.

>>151040468
The only DLC right now is a cosmetic one that adds plantoid as a race.
It's overpriced (8€, therefore 8$ because Steam can't convert), and pretty much useless.

>>151040468
A new species with a few portraits and a new shipset for 8 bucks.
According to Paradox that's not expensive enough and should totally cost 20 dollar.

>>151040517
Thanks mate, installing it

>>151040276
Original guy here
1. On larger maps scouting is more difficult for both sides. I tend to play on maps bigger than the recommended sizes if possible
2. My usual rhythm has me mining stone at 18 or so anyway
3. That guy's wrong - I make the tower to defend my lumber camp and make no defensive units full stop besides a few pikes, if that. If I've scouted my enemy before this I don't make the pikes unless I see a stable / signs of some form of non-archer rush. If I see a boom I just don't use the tower.
4. A defensive tower lets me rush without heeding defense as much. At the very least, I'll get way advance warning.
Anyway, I don't do it every match.

>>151040517
In theory, there are some other things that can be in the DLC folder, like the preorder bonus content.

Or at least that is what was in there on the pirated version I used to test Stellaris

>>151040563
>According to Paradox
According to Jojo.
He does not speak for all of Paradox.

>>151040684
not necessarily, but he is a team member regardless. if a member of a company started going around making racial slurs constantly, your opinion of the whole company would drop. its the same case here.

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>>151039518
Tropical and Arid I believe

>>151040640
sure thing. Like I said, whatever works for you. Most of the players you face on Steam suck at booming anyway and are very weak at scouting.

I think I'll reinstall the game and try to force myself not to play as Chinese. What civs are you playing as the most?

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>>151040849
Yeah, b-but being stupid with DLCs and being a /pol/tard are two different things.
Jojo has a job, for example.

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>>151040849
>if a member of a company started going around making racial slurs constantly, your opinion of the whole company would drop

>>151040934
Goths for trolling. Steam players are shit at rushing.

>>150965629
Rollin

>>151040975
Daily reminder that Paradox is run by tumblrina PC transniggers and censored the shit out of HOI

>>151040941
they are. it was kinda shitty example. let me put it this way. he works for the company. he has a big say in said company. are there other members of the team that are saying other things? because if they arent, they either agree with jojo, or they just dont care. he might not speak for all of paradox, but if no one from paradox says anything different, he might as well be.

>>151041375
They have for a long time. They're almost right next to Germany, and Germany is a large chunk of the European market. This is inflated further by how many of them like simulator-type and other such autistic games.
They have to censor a fuckton of HOI to legally be able to sell the game in Germany.

They are a bunch of typical Swedish SJW fairies, but HOI censorship goes back far and isn't really an example of their SJW behavior.

>>151040975
what's this gentleman looking at?

>>151041728
Eva Braun's butt.

>>151041752
he doesn't look pleased.

>>151042068
Because that cripple Goebbels is touching it.

>>151042068
Germanics and Slavs go south pretty quickly when old enough. He's contemplating the truth of his claims regarding the master race.

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>>151042119
he wouldn't dare.

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>Chinese all have very good-loking polearms
>only get that pike and the halberds

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>>151042246
>implying
Goebbels was a double crossing piece of shit, even among nazis.

He wasn't as bad as Himmler or Heydrich, but still a piece of shit.
>nazis are all about muh purity
>hire a cripple to do the propaganda

>>151042261
They look pretty silly to me.

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>>151042447
Aren't you adorable.
Do you see the one on the right? The one that looks like a flamberge?
It's designed to cause bleeding if you poke someone with it.

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>>151041375
Guess why I didn't buy HoI4.

Bonus fun fact: There is no part of actual German law that causes this, it's the completely retarded way the age-ratings are handled in Germany.

It is still beyond me how completely retarded the German establishment is about this, and I AM a German.
First, this is fucking history, three or more generations removed. Yes, terrible crimes were commited. By Germans. And by pretty much everyone else.
Second. Why the fuck is it OK to show swastikas and Hitler in hollywood movies that run in cinemas for everyone above the age of twelve, but if I see that in a computer game it's suddenly dangerous, must be censored and is only for people above 18?

This rating and censorship system is completely out of touch with reality, and I can absolutely guarnatee you that they've lost any and all credibility with the actual German people.
And yes, it is a fuckign censorship system, despite the fact that the German constitution states that there must be no censorship.

Jokes on everyone, Germany actually has no constitution despite having an agency to pretoct the constitution

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>>151042630
>weapon
>designed to cause bleeding
wooow

>>151042868
I know it might shock you, but weapons aren't always designed to cause bleeding.

>>151042630
Yeah poking somebody with sharp metal will do that pretty consistently. The wavy edge doesn't change as much as you would think.
They seem too bulky to be efficient weapons, more ceremonial than rank and file stuff.
I prefer my arms efficient is all. That sort of stuff is only fun in more silly settings.

>>151042770
Pretty much all censorship systems everywhere are thought of as unnecessary by the large majority. It's just the older cunts.

Like here in Straya, we straight up did not sell anything rated R18+ because video games weren't an adult product or some shit, so there were no R18+ ratings used for any video games.
We fixed that fairly recently and it was basically one old cunt holding us up.

>>151043095
>armchair expert at work

>>151042630
I don't know how to tell you this.

But there is only so much you can do with metal blades on a stick, and the ideas for all of this ended up looking pretty much the same in Europe and China.

The same is true for swords and fighting techniques and stances in general, by the way.
Though whenever you say that the weebs explode in a gigantic puff of autism and go on about 'muh katan' etc.

>>151043158
That's exactly it though. I'm a pretty normal person and I see myself having a harder time operating as a military unit with those such weapons, compared to more simple and efficient weapons.
The period presents primarily relatively normal people trained mostly for discipline rather than every soldier being a 1v1 martial artist with a ceremonial looking weapon.

>>151042770
>Bonus fun fact: There is no part of actual German law that causes this
What about §86a StGB?

> Why the fuck is it OK to show swastikas and Hitler in hollywood movies that run in cinemas for everyone above the age of twelve, but if I see that in a computer game it's suddenly dangerous, must be censored and is only for people above 18?
IIRC some stupid law or video games not being counted as art
>This rating and censorship system is completely out of touch with reality
like the rest of our "politicians", but that is talk for another day

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>>151043406
FOLDED

>>151043417
To put it in simple term, there's a difference between simple bleeding and a haemorrhage (or a medical bleeding).
In the first case, your immune system will fix it. The blood will coagulate and close the wound. In the second, unless you get medical assistance, you'll die, as the wound will be too large for the coagulation to close it.
Wavy weapons like that are designed to cause open wounds bleeding profusely, as opposed to normal weapons that are just here to kill. Weapons like that are pretty rare, because in a real fight, you usually want to kill the enemy quickly, so either they are dueling weapons, or ceremonial weapons.
And while these weapons are probably ceremonial as you believe, they're still pretty kickass and it would be nice to have pikemen using these.

>>151043530
Because games are for kids.

>>151042630
Only the leftmost, rightmost, and the dagger-axe saw wide-scale deployment. The Guandao is a cavalryman's weapon while the other two are mainly ceremonial.

>>151043775
As for simple geometry, the wavy blade simply makes your weapon wider while being more economic with weight and flexibility. A blade as wide as the waved pattern stretches out would do almost the same sort of damage. Flesh being expansive wouldn't really interact with the cutting instrument more than a normal wide blade either.

I like the centre glaive the most. best form/fuction combination.

>>151044148
>A blade as wide as the waved pattern stretches out would do almost the same sort of damage.
Not him but that's not true
The wavy blade acts as a saw when swung and basically cracks the flesh apart. When stabbed both are lethal and difficult to treat, but when swung the wavy blade is significantly more nasty than a straight blade of the same weight.

>>151043095
>because video games weren't an adult product

>Google "average gamer age"
>Pretty much all results are over 18

>>151043417
Not him, but the dagger-axe is for all intents and purposes a western halberd without the axe-head while the leftmost one is an eastern halberd meant to be used as a spear in formation but more potent in close combat.

>>151044394
>implying people actually know about video games
>implying normies don't stop at "game" and imagine all gamers to be 12
So naive.

>>151044693
DESU every government should have a "council" of randomly drafted civilians of various age groups to represent their interest and views a bit more, because as is politicians are just too out of touch. Just have those "councils" be of x random people, they're summoned jury style, and get some time to talk/discuss with eachother and then just have a meeting/presentation/report/whatever. Repeat halfway every election cycle.

>>151045004
The average joe doesn't give a fuck about politic. Most of them would skip it, and the politician would disregard their advices.

Politic is really too far from our daily lives. We reached a point where they're basically playing against each others instead of trying to represent citizens.

>>151046038
>tfw you'll never live to see the return of Enlightened Despotism in the west
>tfw you're too shit to be the enlightened despot

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>tried Age of Mythology
>Neptune isn't a cute girl
>uninstalled Age of Mythology
Shit game, getting a refun.

Endless Legend is fun, but the game feels too slow to me. By the time I get toward the end-game on a map, I've got all this research, but I feel like I haven't accomplished much. Cities are kind of small, armies aren't that big.

Basically, it seems like you're not able to accomplish enough in a single turn, and changing the game length doesn't fix this since all it really does is scale up build times.

I really like Civ VI artstyle/graphics. Not because it looks cartoonish (Civ V is catoonish af) but because everything looks so much clear.
Civ V mid-game maps are a mess (you almost can't see what improvements you have made).
Also city-states in general.

>>151047987
>playing anything other than Norse
Doomed to no fun from the start

>>151048280
Districts also help

>>151048332
Egyptians are fun.

What's a good combination of Stellaris mods for end-game technology? I want to be super powerful by end-game, similar to a Fallen Empire. Planet destroyers, ringworlds, etc.

I've found a few mods that seem like they're good, but compatibility is confusing.

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>"Hey uh, that Barbarian CS below me has been shitting out multiple Horsemen per turn for the last 20 turns and I literally have six Horsemen running around pillaging all my shit and blowing up my capital every turn. Is this intended ?"
>"Oh yeah, I just fixed Barb CS not being able to build units, not a bug"
>Closed

Okay then, I guess taking any Civilization that starts next to a CS out of the game is fair ?

Good thing Vox Populi knows what he's doing