/4xg/ - Stellaris, Civilization, and 4x General

d-dead gen?

>>150784916
>Still have to use cities instead of canal improvement

For fuck sake Firaxis

>>150784916
nooo don't die

>>150787072
maybe there will be a canal district in a civ 6 expansion

>>150787072
I thought they mentioned you could do canals in one of the earlier streams. Possibly 2 tile ones as well.

>Starting position is a lot more influential
>Having mountains or jungle means you have like two to 3 times more science in the early game
>Same with faith
>Also dictates what wonders you can or can't build
>If you have a lot of horses around you're going to get plagued by horse barbarians which fuck your shit up

I don't know how I feel about this. The difference between a bad start and a great start is going to be a lot bigger than in civ 5. Really hard for multiplayer balance.

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Have you guys seen this yet? 150 turns as Japan in Civ 6, without commentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-2A7D_u0k

Sean Bean's lines and Leader voice lines don't seem to be finished yet though

Are amenities just for the city they are in or are they like Civ4 where every city with a connection shares all their amenities?

In this civ 5 game i'm having, about 100 turns ago, I had diplomatic penalty with some civs with them being "concerned about my early warmongering" despite the fact that I only was in wars were I got attacked.

However, that penalty is no longer showing up. Should I assume that the penalty has expired, or is it just not showing? If I attack somebody now/get attacked, will it go back to "early warmongering", or will it skip ahead to the next stage of that?

Is there a guide that goes into detail regarding the mechanics of dilopmatic modifiers in general?

>>150789719
This guy is offensively bad at the game.
>improves generic farms when there are bonus and luxury resources to improve
>that movement around the scout, doesn't use zoc at all
>no scouting
>retardo tech path

>>150790895
Yea but I couldn't find another 150 turn video that also had no commentary

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>>150789719
What the fuck is he even trying to achieve with this builder?

>>150789719
The track that starts at 32:35 sounds middle-eastern but he hasn't met any middle-eastern civs

Or am I just retarded

>>150789719
hojo kills me because every time I look at him, I expect his empire colors to be light blue and white

but instead, it's white and red, like usual

>>150791673
They said all the colours in the press event stream were just the civ5 colours, and that they are going to change the colours for release to be different.

>Cleopatra had Rome's colours instead of Egypt's

>trying to enjoy beyond earth
>diplomacy is meme tier
>all the terrains look the same, have to mouse over to tell the difference between desert and grassland
>there are specialist slots but the specialists are worse than working a tile since the yield is so small and there are no great people
>just one generic promotion
>wonders are so underwhelming
>stations don't appear later in the game and the AI doesn't even keep the ones they spawn alive
>literally no reason to ever go to war since space is so easy to come by

EIGHT DOLLAR PLANT PORTRAITS

>>150793218
>buying Paradox DLC

>>150792425
beyond earth is so bad because it could have been so fucking nice if they actually expanded on literally anything
>maps have all different terrain types in them, no more 'lush desert' shit, it actually feels like different biomes
>wonders could easily be made good
>promotions could easily be expanded upon
>'favor' bullshit needs to get canned, or made so it can do different things
>stations should act like small city states, and can be perhaps integrated into your colony, and have quests to do (studying wildlife, harvesting resources, etc) and have actual units of their own (militant stations that try to attack aliens, getting them all riled up, for example)
oh well. at least beyond earth has taught me not to buy whatever standalone shit is going to come with civ 6 when its expansions are over, because thats gonna be halfbaked shit too.

>>150792425
>spies in aquatic cities don't follow the city when the city moves and you end up with vision over nothing

>>150794167
>at least beyond earth has taught me not to buy whatever standalone shit is going to come with civ 6

You aren't one of the six people that bought that Space Ship strategy game they shit out, are you?

I'm so, so sorry anon

>>150794515
nah, I didnt get that. I was already burnt on beyond earth. thats what I mean. beyond earth was supposed to be the civ colonization of civ 5, but it wasnt.

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>>150794649
oh, is THAT they they fucking abandoned it so fast?

Oh well, at least they gave us space bedoiun waifu

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>>150795141
Also Purity was hands down the best affinity despite having comparatively lame passive bonuses

>>150789702
Multiplayer should be played on map scripts that are very specifically made to balance starts. Otherwise, different starts encouraging vastly different styles of play is a good thing.

>>150789702
Even if you take the same general path in every game of Civ 4 if you want, starting position and the geography around your first few cities still influences things enough to make a difference.
>Marble or Stone can make the difference between building a wonder or not
>lack of an important military resource like bronze may encourage early research of iron, or encourage horse spam to compensate
>having no coast or coast but no resources around to justify coastal cities means some techs are shit and you miss out on useful buildings and wonders
>simple lack of food stunting growth
>resources spread in specific ways that you can't grab many with a few cities, encouraging wide spread if you want to work tile that can do anything
>river tiles encouraging cottage spam, mountains encouraging mine spam
>later in the game you can spam rivers with waterwheels and hills with windmills
>lots of jungle encouraging iron working, or discouraging/encouraging settling an area because you have to chop everything but there may be good resources in there
>late game gives you more options to make cities placed in far out places more viable, especially considering how certain resources can land on ridiculous tiles like an oil next to a bunch of tundra and 4 beavers
I hope they don't take the, "make games more unique" approach so much through geography so much you end up taking the same route every time when you encounter the most blatantly obvious option, it shouldn't be so influential.

>>150795959
Different Civ bonuses should influence that at least, like Brazil values rain forest tiles a lot more than other Civs.

I think doomstacks are superior to 1UPT

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Are you fucking serious, Assyria?

>>150797450
Playing modded leads to lots of crazy ass doomstack fights at corridors. My funnest game I ever had was against Persia, we were both throwing dozens of units at each other. Tons of jungle and mountains on the map, there was only a few places you could really place units offensively. We had small squads of 3-4 units held up in defensive positions, both sides essentially creating a funnel where we threw all of our shit into. Going down the funnel meant that some units on the side would pounce from the sides, so we were creating massive landing parties to place on ships. (At least this is what I was doing out of logic, they were probably doing it just because it was an option as an AI).

I at some points managed to push in and destroy a few of his frontier cities, that were absolutely fucked because all the resources were getting pillaged. We were spamming roads to get units in and they were getting ransacked a few turns later. It took so much effort to take out the cities, as they were surrounded by jungle and chopping it wasn't reasonable, that whoever owned that area would get pushed on as their offensive force would be exhausted. Cities kept getting built and toppled, AI building them in the same place every time but it was still a pain. That's where all the elephant resources were too, so it couldn't be ignored, and whoever controlled it could push into the cities actually producing commerce and science.

I was laughing when I eventually lost.

>>150798453
Ai is gud at geam

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>>150798453
>Nimrud

>Finally decide to update Stellaris
>The game crashes every time I start a new game
I hate it

I have at least a bit of faith in firaxis to balance out the adjacency bonuses from tiles, simply because they arent the vanilla/BE team and the balance in gk/bnw isnt terrible
but most people doing multiplayer later in the games lifecycle will be using a mod like no quitters anyways

>>150801265
I just have a feeling we'll need to again rely on mods to make the AI remotely competent at using units in combat again

>>150799465
>update Stellaris
that's where you went wrong

Is Star Ruler 2 as awesome as it fucking looks? Holy shit. Was reading the last thread and some anons mentioned it. I had never heard of it before. Is the vanilla or updated vanilla game ok to play or do you needs mods to make it work/balanced etc.?

>>150802130
I haven't followed Stellaris at all since the release. What have the updates done?

>>150802461
>nerfed Evasion; corvette spam is no longer viable
>Attempt at buffing other endgame weapons and nerfing Talcyons by taking their armor-piercing down to 75%
>the above did not actually nerf Talcyons/buff other endgame weapons enough; Talcyon-Battleships are the only worthwhile endgame option outside of roleplay
>Sectors are still shit, but slightly less shit than before; not enough to matter, but they tried.
>Empire borders are now open by default; no more getting trapped by the three empires that spawn around you
>Massive ethos overhauls that made ethos like Militaristic shit, nerfed most government bonuses/made government bonuses pointless, like +15% military station damage bonus

I've probably missed a couple points, but these are some of the main ones that you'll probably need if you start playing again.

>>150803161
Actually, I've never played. I've grown tired of all the Paradox games.

>>150801462
probably will
but thats fine
as long as they deliver a solid game, and a solid framework to build upon with hopefully civ 4 quality mods, I feel like this will be one of the best civs
especially since you can use mods in multiplayer

>>150804486
I know people cream themselves over crap like Rhyse and Fall which is fine but I just want something like Fall from Heaven 2 again

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>all the techs in VI have a few quotes associated with them. Some games you'll hear a profound one, some game you'll hear a cliche one, and some you'll hear a funny one.
thats cute.

>>150805463
I thought I heard two different quotes for Animal Husbandry when watching two different videos

This explains it

>>150805463
If a watery tart grabbing your sword isn't proof of supreme power what is

oh yea, one other thing im hoping for is that you can fucking use dlc in multiplayer that someone else doesnt have
I hate it when a friend doesnt have a certain leader dlc so no one can use him, or when someone just getting back into civ doesnt have bnw/gk so we're forced to play with vanilla civs
it sucks

>>150806227
and if they keep it the same as civ 5, I wonder how the aztecs are going to work in multiplayer
are the people who preordered not going to be able to use them if theres one dude who didnt preorder?

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>>150805463
Fuck this would have been great to not know.
>get game
>here we go
>randomizer selects mostly all serious quotes
>unlock monarchy
>YOU DON'T VOTE FOR KINGS
I would die on the spot.

>>150805463

That's actually really cool.

>>150787072
There was a mod for that in Civ V, if it's not in the base game I'm sure there'll be a mod again

How does Stellaris stack up to the likes of Civ V or EUIV? It looks like it has a bit of a tedious start

>>150807996
It has tedious middle and tedious lategame. Start is where fun is.

>>150790793
Diplomacy in Civ V is pretty much non existent. You having warmonger penalty is, you either conquered a city(taking cities in peace treaties don't give warmonger penalty) or declared war on someone(this is really small compared to conquering cities), otherwise you can't get warmonger penalty.

It either actually expired or the AI you're talking to is deceptive and is trying to look friendly, then will betray you. In that case you don't see negative modifiers in the relationship and they show something like "wants friendly relationships with our empire".

There aren't stages of warmongering, it's what the AI you're talking to is thinking about your warmongering. Like you can have 500 warmonger points and a peaceful guy would think you're a warmonger menace to the world and other warmonger probably wouldn't give a shit at all.

Warmonger points slowly go down, it also depend on the era I think. In the early eras it's much faster, therefore you can just steal settlers from other civs and they'll forget it in the future

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=169448644
http://www.picknmixmods.com/mods/CivV/Diplomacy/By%20Numbers.html
If you have problem with diplomacy, you can use one of the mods above I guess

>>150807996
It is a GS, so completely different to Civ V.
Comparing it to EU4, it's all over the place.
The groundwork is there. It could quite well be EU4 in space, but it's nowhere near there yet. The start isn't that tedious though. Less tedious compared to harder starts in EU4.

>>150789719
>without commentary
Halleluia.
DSP, Pewshitpie and Markishitter made me hate commentaries.

>>150809182
Is there a guide that explains the specific mechanics and values of all the diplomatic modifiers?

I found http://www.carlsguides.com/strategy/civilization5/diplomacy.php but it doesn't go into the amount of detail I want, which is the exact math the game uses and the exact way stuff works mechanically with how stuff interacts and how long stuff lasts for and so on

>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=169448644
>http://www.picknmixmods.com/mods/CivV/Diplomacy/By%20Numbers.html
>If you have problem with diplomacy, you can use one of the mods above I guess

I don't want to get into mods until I can do well consistently at like emperor difficulty. Right now I'm comfortable at prince at highest

>>150798453
Every time I see a Civ V screenshot I like the new visuals better.

Has any game actually used opinion system for anything other then some AI abstraction?

I always thought it would make sense for it to represent how your population feels about specific nation and thus how they would feel about war or cooperation with them.

>>150810030
No, and that's a shame : your population never get to speak their mind.
I assume that's because your propaganda is always perfect.

>>150809904
>values of all the diplomatic modifiers?
Not really possible because AFAIK those values depend on the AIs. An AI that has an expanding of 10 will hate you for expanding more than an AI with expanding of 6.

Seriously, diplomacy in Civ V is really barebones, just know the personality of other leaders and act accordingly to it and you'll be fine

>>150810409
For example, you must destroy Martin Luther King quickly. Same with Gandhin Fidel Castro, and Adolf Hitler.

>>150810409
Surely you could still show the values and just show the variance per AI personality with a variable, no?

>>150809772
too bad the gameplay is awful
but it feels nice to listen to the music and general ambiance of the game, I like it

>>150810915
What do you mean by "awful"? Shallow? Buggy? Unfinished? Tedious? Confusing?

>>150811117
I mean that the person playing it is awful, not that the game itself is. whoops.

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Johan, Calpih of the Swedish Spacejew Republic, has spoken

>>150811201
Haa, okay.

Well, it's sadly to be expected. People who don't comment usually are shit. People who comment will explain their decision, even if sometimes they don't seem to make sense.
A shame a commenter will spend 90% of his time talking about himself or trying to joke rather than talk about the game.

I really don't like what LPs became.

>>150811313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muqYPFCJhM0

>>150811313
>respectfully disagree
I can't get over how retarded this sound. It's like they thought "man, to avoid clogging up threads with replies, we need to add a system to allow users to downvotes and upvotes posts". And then Johan came in and said "BUT MUH FEELINGS" and they were like "Okay, calm down Jojo, we'll make sure your feelings aren't hurt."

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>>150811456
His feelings must have been hurt

>>150811313
This post reeks of subtle anger.
Why is Johan so pathetic lads?

>>150811683
they have to make sure the developers have a safe space to price-gouge people with 20$ cosmetic dlc

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EIGHT FUCKING DOLLARS!?

>>150811954
The more I browse the Paradox forums, the more I think it's a stupid idea to let devs talk directly with players.
They should have a community manager who knows his shit instead of letting Jojo try to defend a fucking cosmetic mod priced 8 bucks.
I can eat one entire day for eight bucks.

>>150811804
He is the eternal Swede.
He starts DLC.
He fuels DLC.
I can't imagine a non triple A company that has embraced DLC more.

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Xth for semen demons

>>150812054
Yes, it would only make sense if they were entire new mechanic.

I want photosynthsize and infect xenos with my spores, Johan.

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>We don’t have plans to release Civilization VI on consoles at this time. As a studio, we’re very proud of the games we’ve made that have succeeded on console, but we feel that the PC is the platform where Civilization VI fits the best.
>At this time
Console version confirmed

>>150812242
Overkill with Payday 2 was pretty ridiculous, another Swedish company funny enough.

Any good mods for civ 4 and/or 5?

>>150812783
NEPTUNIA

Oh, and Events and Decisions.

>>150813243
Speaking of events and decisions, I apparently need a mod called "EUI" to see them.
Except it's not in the Steam workshop. All I can find are files that are compatible with it.

>>150812783
IV: Fall from Heaven 2
V: Vox Populi

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>Demand city in peace settlement
I wonder what they have been doing with the-

>>150813579
Steam Workshop is not actually a good place to find Civ V mods, at least the best ones I've found aren't even on the workshop

>>150813605
I'm sure there's some clever thing to say about coast fortifications but whatever

>>150813680
Oh, I see. It's too casual for the modders. Same shit than with Skyrim.
>"huuu casuals are using the workshop"
>"my mod is so good it deserves to be a pain in the ass to install"
No, fuck that pretentious bullshit.

>>150813750
Steam Workshop has too many arbitrary limits like filesize and the fact that its a pain in the ass to put mods on

>>150813750
Skyrim actually has a very good argument against the Workshop, in that the Workshop manager has a lot of limitations like hard-to-adjust priorities, profiles, being unable to overwrite partial mods, and being unable to launch from SKSE.

>>150813849
Yeah, compared to nexus who's sooo much better.
>ads everywhere
>need to log in to get any real mod
>all comments are heavily censored by the modder, so you sometimes have the guy throwing a fit at a comment who wasn't approved or got deleted
Gee, looking through my old IDs to find the one I used on nexus just to get one mod is so fun.

Plus I bet my saves will be incompatible if I install the Extended UI.

>>150813750
I don't know about any of that but Vox Populi is not hard to install, it's literally a "click next" installer

>>150813983
Install Mod Organizer you idiot, and you can search by name easily. Once you install a mod it's much easier to manage them through that shit, unlike Steam Workshop who has idiotic FS limitations and autopacks into BSA files AND lacks about 10000 management options

>>150813983
>ads everywhere
adblock
>need to log in to get any real mod
unlike steam?
>all comments are heavily censored by the modder, so you sometimes have the guy throwing a fit at a comment who wasn't approved or got deleted
unlike steam?
>Gee, looking through my old IDs to find the one I used on nexus just to get one mod is so fun.
mod manager?

>>150814048
The problem isn't to install, it's to get it.
First of all, cross your finger the mod is on a website you know, otherwise you have to venture in slav territory to get it.
Second, make sure you get the mod and not install a virus instead, because SOMETIMES, the big green "download" button isn't a download.
Third, congratulation, you got the mod. Once you install it, you can start tweaking it to fix all the incompatibility issues you will get.

>>150814093
>install a mod to install more mods
No, fuck you. I already have a mod manager. It's called the workshop. I'm not going to install a shitload of shit because a dev needs to know how many time his mod got downloaded to validate his existence.

>>150813983
>ads everywhere
>not having adblock in 2016
What the hell man

>>150814252
>First of all, cross your finger the mod is on a website you know, otherwise you have to venture in slav territory to get it.
Vox Populi is LITERALLY on CivFanatics, searching it should bring it up in the first result.

>Second, make sure you get the mod and not install a virus instead, because SOMETIMES, the big green "download" button isn't a download.
Are you three days into the Internet?

>Third, congratulation, you got the mod. Once you install it, you can start tweaking it to fix all the incompatibility issues you will get.
Unlike Steam?

>No, fuck you. I already have a mod manager. It's called the workshop. I'm not going to install a shitload of shit because a dev needs to know how many time his mod got downloaded to validate his existence.
Enjoy not being able to get 99.99% of good mods working for technical reasons even if they uploaded it onto Steam.

>>150813750
no actually, a lot of reasons why are because
>a lot of civfanatics mods are packaged as pseudo-dlc that lets you use them online/gain achievements while using them
>steam workshop mods are unable to interact with certain parts of the game
>filesize limits
its not like you have to go on some russian site to look up mods. its literally civfanatics, which every good civ player uses already for info.

>>150814048
>replying to post to say "my mod is so good it deserves to be a pain in the ass to install"
>The problem isn't to install
???

Also the mod is on Civfanatics and has a forum thread with thousands of replies, if you can't trust that I don't know what to tell you

>>150812482
Fuck. Sonyggers are going to ruin it

>>150814438
Meant to reply to >>150814252 in there

>>150814282
Because otherwise, you get "ablublu you don't let us spam you, plz turn off adblock, we need the money".

>>150814341
What the fuck? When did I say ANYTHNG about Vox Populi, you maniac cock-gobbling enthusiast?
Your love for poultry is unsettling.

>>150814353
Filesize limits? There's such a thing on the workshop?
>its literally civfanatics, which every good civ player uses
You're assuming a lot about my skills.

>>150798453
>have 4 large cities set out in a pattern like washington, rabat, marrakech and nimrud there
>ai comes along and settles a city on the forst hill by the deer and horse

>>150814531
>Your love for poultry is unsettling.
Vox Populi is one of the mods NOT on Steam Workshop and is located where most other mods not on the Workshop for Civilization are: namely, on CivFanatics. Kill yourself.

>>150812783
Caveman2cosmos and Realism Invictus for 4 are pretty good. For something mostly visual there's diversica. CiV 5 has tons of meme mods, the biggest one I know for 4 is Civ4chan for meme nostalgia.

BUG mod for Civ 4 is generally useful no matter what, adds a lot of things to the UI so you don't have to dig around menus. Mandatory in my opinion.

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>>150814594
Cool story, you cock-mongling freak.
Except we weren't talking about Vox Populi, we were talking about EUI.
>kill yourself
Fuck off back to rebbit. And then choke on this cock.

>cosmetic dlc for cuckoldry kings 2 or memeropa memeversalis 4 is like $2 to $3
>cosmetic dlc for stellaris (pls buy) is $8
epic

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Do you guys have any mods you would recommend to someone who has just started playing with mods? Ive been playing the shit out of V recently and I am trying to try something new

>>150814669
EUI is on the same site FYI

>>150814669
for someone who came in and wanted help, you sure do give a lot of lip. fuck off.

>>150814810
Yeah, but I don't care about Vox Populi. I don't even know what it's about. I only care about EUI. Only that other retard constantly brought it up and tried to shove it down my throat.

>>150814831
Yes, cry more, bitch.

>>150814669
EUI is also on CivFanatics. Google Dai-Sensei is almighty, imbecile.

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Who /carefully hyped/ for Civ 6 here?


If they would only fix the ugly looking leaders or just use the ones of Civ 5.

>>150814749
This was just recently asked and replied to (at length with the person who asked complaining a lot), scroll up a bit

>>150814915
go ask for help on reddit. why would anyone help someone who bitches and moans when someone talks about something that isnt in their steam safe-space?

>>150814918
See >>150814915. And then see >>150814669.

>>150814749
Events & Decision, Extended User Interface, and maybe a few nations mods.

>>150814915
EUI is literally part of Vox Populi.

>>150815000
For someone who knows nothing, you sure are smug.

>>150814915
Anything anyone said about Vox Populi applies to EUI. Except the bit about the installer. But apparently "The problem isn't to install, it's to get it" so nevermind about that

>>150815047
You can stop projecting your ignorance now, Jon.

>>150815082
Hang on a bit.
What you're saying is basically that people talked about sunflowers because anything you said about them applies to roses too.
That's still dumb.

>>150814930
considering the only complaints ive seen are about the artstyle, I can safely say that im hyped. they havent shown a bad thing and I dont have anything against the artstyle, so its all good for me.

>>150802402
Vanilla is fine.
Honestly I'd play a game as the only race in the galaxy, no AIs. Turn up Remnants if you want some challenge.
That'll give you a feel for how the game works.

>>150815145
Now you're just being dense for the sake of being dense. Fuck off.

>>150815145
I thought you were complaining about getting mods.
EUI can be googled almost instantly to be on Civ Fanatics.

>>150815000
Thanks Ill give it a shot

>>150815206
I was just complaining about how EUI wasn't on the workshop, that's all.
Someone else brought up Vox Populi and assumed I was talking about it, and then got offended when I said I never cared about it.

>>150815208
As mentionned (and nicely explained) in this thread, EUI can only be found on some obscure forum. The others can be found on the Steam Workshop if you're using it.

>>150815367
>Someone else brought up Vox Populi and assumed I was talking about it, and then got offended when I said I never cared about it.
You're talking about me.
>obscure forum
>Civfanatics
>obscure
...huh?

>>150815430
Yes, obscure.

If my omnipotent and allmighty self doesn't know about it, then it's obscure.

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>>150815367
>obscure forum

>>150815490
Obviously antiomniscient though.

>>150815572
I'm not even sure this is correct.

>>150815610
It's not a word if that's what you're asking

>>150815367
>Someone else brought up Vox Populi and assumed I was talking about it
Actually the chain went more like
>>150813680
>speaking about mods in general
>>150813750
>claims mods not on the workshop are a pain in the ass to install
>>150814048
>use VP as example to point out they're really not that hard to install
>>150814252
doesn't say anything about EUI, but replies to post about VP

>etc

>>150814749
Do you want a slightly more balanced version of vanilla? NQ mod
Do you want a complete overhaul? Community Balance Patch

You could also go through the workshop and just get a bunch of new country mods if you wanted too.

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Someone who knows what they're doing tell me what's better, or even if I'm overspending on shitty corvettes.

>>150815680
>NQ
Don't use abbreviations like that.

>>150815797
>playing Stellarshit
Explain yourself.

>>150815851
>implying in you're in position of asking for explanation
Don't flatter yourself, kid.

>>150815801
It's literally called NQmod
https://www.reddit.com/r/nqmod/

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>>150815880
If you explain yourself I'll suck you diq

>>150815915
Oh. My bad.

>>150815851
I purchased it. I need to play my new games. I have a hundred of them I haven't played yet. Good ones. Having a job is better than I expected it to be.
Right now I need to run this through so I can get to my 40 hour story games and knock it off with the "infinite replayability" games.

>>150813605
why though

>>150815797
Fuck it. Going with defense.

One of the retarded things in Civ V was how civilian units didn't change their looks based on the era/tech. Workers would still be workers from 4000 bc, caravans would still be people with camels in 2000 AD. I think this was fixed in BNW but still it remained for a retardedly long time

I wonder will shit like this exist in Civ VI
Captcha:420

>>150814930
>Who /carefully hyped/ for Civ 6 here?
I wasn't hyped at all until I saw that lets play in the OP.

There seems to be a lot of great new mechanics added in good ways. Like city defense being more than just a number.

The art style also isn't as bad as i feared in motion.

I figure it's a modern game so about 6 months after release will be when it really starts hitting its stride and after all the expansions it'll be amazing.

Starting Endless Legend.
Anything I should know? Any mandatory mod?

Any mod at all?

Anyone?

What did Adam Smith once say again?

>>150816765
The workers change to dudes in overalls and hardhats and the caravans change to trucks and the cargo ships change to cargo ships and the fishing boats change to fishing trawlers.

>>150784916
I've always wanted to play civ multiplayer. Is there a steam group or something for that?

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>>150816765
civilian units change with era in 6, yes. they also have ethnic units for several unit types, though not all of them.

>>150817523
He said "gimme your brouzoufs".

>>150817523
no village was ever ruined by trade, for a price

>>150817657
My legs are okay.

>>150817609
Can you read? He clearly mentioned BNW when that got added.
I bet you're a fucking all-DLCs steamsale from last year, aren't you?

>>150817523
they call me cuban pete
I'm the king of the rhumba beat
when I play my maraccas I go
chick chicky boom
chick chicky boom

>>150817747
I have killed my mentor, yet I am not his murderer.

That game was interesting, but too many flaws to ruin it.

>>150816958
Hope you like VOXELS

Dosh Lords are best most op strongly race.

Isn't there a way to instantly siege a planet in Stellaris? I thought I remembered Quill doing something like that by destroying all of it's defenses in bombardment.

>>150817826
You seem upset, is it because you payed full price for all of Civ dlc on launch and got shekeled by Firaxis doing their best paradox impression

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what went so horribly wrong?

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>>150817903
Voxels? I googled it, it looks more like 8-bit armies than Endless Legend.

>>150817884
What did you expect from hl2 era Source engine?

>>150818273
A better system that doesn't blur my vision each time I take a small hit, that doesn't have Deus Ex Machina enemies that I can't fight fairly , and maybe, I dunno, TELL ME HOW MANY BROUZOUFS I'M ACTUALLY MAKING so that I know if I'm better off camping spawnpoints or doing missions.

>>150818195
>no art team
>no story (civ has history to fall back on)

also see:
>>150609962
>>150610316

We just had this conversation.

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>tfw hate all civs equally

>>150818368
to be honest it was made by a bunch of french autists in a basement who didn't playtest beyond the first level and thought a billion ingame video tutorials and literally all the games lore collected in one room was a good idea

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>>150817882

>>150818545
>french autists
Nice pleonasm.

Frenchs are the worst online players. They're the most prone to blog about their life, whine about their team, and talk shit when they win.
I know, because I play with a lot of Frenchies. They all act like 12 years old.

And yeah, they clearly never bothered seriously testing their shit.
>"heey, let's make huge corridors, because it's fun to walk for 15 minutes while looking for a merchant NPC!"
>"the PC doesn't like that, let's have them threatening each others like high schoolers!"
One of the most overrated game ever.

>>150818195
Easier to say what went right.

Say, won't they bring into Civ VI in this system from Rising Tide where you get to pick a bonus for yourself and it also defines unique bonus you can give to allies? It would make diplomacy more useful.

Pick each time you change era or something.

>>150818539
siam, earth, diplomacy - lets fucking do it you siamese cunts

>>150816958
I haven't played EL for long but one thing I can say for sure is, the resource system doesn't work like Civ. You have resources in your tiles, and you gather them every turn. In Civ V, if you had one iron in one tile and build mine there, you would have one iron forever and when you built an unit that iron would be used on it as maintenance as long as that unit existed
In EL, if you build mine on iron you gather iron every turn, and buildings, units and shit like that require like 10 iron, and they don't have iron in maintenance

You understand what I mean? So it's better to get resource techs early so you start stockpiling them early, this is especially important if you're going for wonder victory as I think every wonder has resource requirements

About mods idk, I should get into EL sometime, I'm playing ES currently

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>>150818539
>>tfw hate all civs equally

just play the ones with qt leaders

she's real in my heart

>>150818937
I remember trying Endless Space. I hated it so much. The UI was great, but the game was meh.

Thanks for the advice.

>>150818539
Just play Alex and get a bunch of free shit from city states while otherwise being vanilla.
No haggle, no hassle, no bullshit.
Plus if you get a hoplite early, you can start demanding money.

>>150816840
Was cautiously optimistic until the pre-release build footage came out. Only seen the Marbs/Quill/Filthy stuff but it's enough to get me hyped. So far we've seen everything V has plus a far more flexible policy and city building system.

My only real question right now is how many leaders are civs going to have. From what I can tell we'll either have multiple or we will be able to use them with non-native civs.

Okay, I finally managed to download EUI from that obscure civfanatic forum.
I'll install it, and in maybe two hours, I'll be able to play.

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Do you think they had the districts system in mind from awhile ago, or they're just going off how well it worked for Endless Legend?

As much as I like it I feel that it'll outstrip EL in a lot of ways. And I love EL.
And before we have any hope of a sequel to that, Endless Space 2 has to come along and be mediocre first.

>>150820036
After you sperged out the best thing you can do is pretend not to be that person.

>>150820178
>projecting this hard

>>150818539
Rolling for a YNAEMP game

>>150818842
It was a good feature rendered pointless by the fact that said bonuses (and the rest of the game) were horribly unbalanced.

If somebody had Energy Grid then it dodn't matter whether they were on the other side of the planet or not: they were Greatest Ally and you defend them like America defends Israel.

>>150820192
Lad I can go on all day, but Civfanatics is objectively not obscure.

>>150820257
Don't make promise you can't fulfill. I bet you can't even go for one hour about civfanatic, let alone one entire day.

>>150820036
>2 hours to drag and drop
0/10, apply yourself

>>150820384
More like
>2 hours to download a file at all with the bad internet I have
I could complain all day about my internet provider. 30$ a month for an internet access that cuts off randomly.
Ever since I arrived here, I have been cut five times already.

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>>150820505
Where do you live desu
I forget exactly how big EUI is supposed to be, but I don't imagine it's big enough to be cut off repeatedly for two hours.

Is there a retards guide to the world congress in BNW?

>says next session is in 26 turns
>next turn a new session pops up asking me to elect a new host, not giving me a chance to bribe people to vote for me or anything

It's not just this, i'm having trouble with it in general

>>150820621
Link to mod?
Or just tell me the bonuses. I'm only curious as to how whoever chose to represent chinese cartoons.

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>>150820360
I can shitpost all day with you if you feel entertaining me for that long. I'm not saying I can talk about Civfanatics for a day, there's no much to say it's like talking about Reddit for a day.

>>150820621
In a shithole, in Wales.

>>150820717
So explaining why civfanatic isn't obscure is shitposting?
You hold that forum to such high regard.

>>150820642
It should say both next session and next host selection somewhere. Being host gives you a fuckton more power.
If Greece is in the game, genocide them or expect to pay out 10000k a session to keep the city states yours.

>>150820784
I have no idea what you're talking about, but civfanatic is the top result most of the time when you look up civ stuff. Quite the opposite of obscure, so long as you play civ.

>>150820917
What I'm saying is that I'm taking literally Anon's statement that they could talk about civfanatic all day, but then he answered "sure I could shitpost all day", so I'm mocking the fact that for him, talking about civfanatic is shitposting.

>>150820917
Not involved in this discussion but I've never been to civ fanatics and just googled civ, civ fanatics is the 11th or 12th result. So it definitely populates on the first page at least

>>150820642
As >>150820803 said next host turns are different, but if half of the civilizations reach the next era, or one civ reaches the era beyond it, you get an instant host selection

Also tip with world congress, if you have no chance of winning it, give all your votes to the guy who has a chance to win. You get a pretty big relationship bonus for it. Also do it three times, in the fourth time the guy you voted for will use all(?) of his/her votes for you.
The civs you liberated also use all their votes for you

fuck
if theres one thing I love about beyond earth
its the music
they're really fucking good at making good music.

>>150821417
Beyond Earth has music?

>>150821617
Video games have sounds?

>>150821617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXH-VPrUjBs

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>>150818539
Please get a civ I can pronounce properly.

>>150821748
Don't build more than 6 cities then.

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>mfw I need to resume my Homeworld campaign
>can't

>>150822068
I meant leader name but what does have more than 6 cities have to do with it?

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Wait a second... that skincolor on the egyptian units...

>>150822172
WE
E

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>>150820505
>literally first result
>1.02mb
Even on the most Ethiopian of internet this can't take more than 10 minutes.

>>150822172
I know bitching about graphics is pretty old now, but what's up with those food and production symbols on the tiles? I hope it's fixed when the game's released, it looks really bad for some reason

>>150822540
What the fuck is even used for the food? It looks like a green dildo with a yellow tip. Can't they use meat like in Age of Empires 2?
Civ4 had the same bullshit with something that looked like an old papyrus.

>>150822612

It's corn. Seriously.

>>150822612
um
thats corn, dude...

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>>150822630
>>150822641
I though corn was entirely yellow, on the golden side?

>>150822612
the irony here is that the HD version of AoE2 has corn as a food symbol

>>150822712
No, the husk is green until it completely dries and dies.

>>150822717
Only on the ressources bar. If you click on farms, berry bushes and animals, they still use the old icon.

>>150822812
Ooooh.

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>>150822828
for reference

>>150822980
So you don't remove the green part before cooking the corn?

>>150823070
It is inedible. You don't have to remove it until you shove it down your throat though.
Grilling through it smokes and steams the actual edible part, without a need for oil or anything. You can boil it in the husk as well, though there wouldn't be any upside to it past simply presenting that it is indeed fresh when you're done cooking it.

>>150823171
Man, what a pain. I prefer wheat anyway. A wheat field looks really cool.

>>150821000
I never said I was going to talk about Civfanatics all day.
I said I can 'go on all day', meaning shitpost with you, as all you're doing is shitposting.
>Wales
Go beg King Arthur for better internet

>>150822630
>>150822641
>uses corn
>when potatoes are the go to food for nearly all of humanity
The only thing that comes close is maybe rice

Total fuck up, shit game, 0/10

>>150823592
>answering to a one hour old post
Come on, dude, let it go. You lost.

>>150823628
>lost
How does one win or lose an argument
I think playing Civ IV is a pretty good reason I didn't answer.

>>150823616
Or they could use apples. I always saw apples used to represent food.

>>150823616
Statistically speaking Rice is the most populous grain and widely used food stuff followed by wheat

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>>150823628
>lost

>>150823616
Corn is iconic though, and nobody knows what rice the crop looks like while potatoes are a brown sphere.
Either way I'd personally prefer a number.

>>150823679
Based on modern statistics, but throughout human history potatoes have been far more important for most of the world

>>150823754
>>150823679
Apples are the way to go.

>>150823754
Or an apple

Or meat

Hell meat makes the most sense because all cultures have meat.

>>150823769
Pretty sure Wheat and Barley are more important for the historical west while rice and wheat where tops for the historical east.
Potatoes didn't exist in Eurasia until like 500 years ago and the (Native) Americans, honestly, contributed very little to history except as a subject.

>>150823754
I have pretty good idea what wheat looks like. Or is it Barley? Or maybe rye? I don't know how to tell them apart, but I would recognize the symbol.

Meat would make most sense, though it's weird to see it as yield of something that clearly a field and not pasture.

>>150823769
>but throughout human history potatoes have been far more important for most of the world
>Potatoes were introduced to Europe and Asia aka "90% of history that matters before the Age of Exploration" only after people went to America
???

>>150823824
>meat
But what about our sensitive vegan friends?

>>150823679
Actually corn outproduces rice by a bit. But a significantly larger portion of the corn crop goes to animal fodder.

>>150823769
Not really. Potatoes like corn were obtained from the Americas. Potatoes went on to be a very important crop for more northern countries, but rice, wheat and down in africa, grass-like tubers like yams fed more people for far longer.

>>150823824
Quite a few culturally vegetarian peoples that didn't eat meat.
Most of those did eat fish though. But it's weird to represent land meat and fish together.

I personally feel that wheat is the ideal image to represent worldwide food.

>>150823992
Because having a bottle of vitamin pills would be so much better

>>150823769
Ireland pls

Wheat is far older and more important.

>>150823992
They can go fuck themselves. I have diabetes but you don't see me crying when my people want sugar in Civ.

>>150823872
>rice
>not important in the west

Hahahahha
You have no idea how important rice was to Mediterranean nations, about half of which are european. The Roman used rice as far north as Germany because it was easily transported even.

The potato was only relevant after it was brought back from south america in the mid XVI century.

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>>150823962
Would you really, because rice looks weird as hell compared to what it turns out to be in a bowl.

>>150824006
The Japanese didn't eat meat (much) but I imagine that putting a steak on as an image would make sense
Still I agree, either wheat or bread sounds like the best choice (almost everyone made bread of some sort, the chinks even managed to make it with rice).
It would be cool though if every nation or culture had different icons
So the Chinks, Koreans, Nips and Viets have rice, Europe has bread, Mideast has barley or something, the Americas get corn.

>>150824042
Wheat is also a source in the game though, you can't use it to represent the food also
Dunno I liked the apple in Civ V, it's also symbolic because of Adam & Eve and shit

>>150824171
meant for the rice doubters, which ever post they were.

>>150824182
Yes, everyone had some wheat, even if it wasn't too staple.

There is the divide between southern and northern Chinese as well, and wheat is very common, oftentimes over rice up north.

>>150824171
Did I say it was unimportant in the west or did I simply say it was important in the east?
>potatoes were only relevant
Yeah that's what I just said.

>>150824191
Adam and Eve never had a forbidden apple though, it was just a fruit and honestly if you go for the symbolic road they didn't eat shit all, the reason they got kicked out of paradise is because ignorance is bliss and with knowledge of good and evil comes the knowledge that the world is shit.

>>150805463
>monty python quotes on a civ game
YES

>>150824270
Yeah I know that, the north is too cold and dry to actually grow rice.

>>150818539
I am very erect at this moment.

>wheat
already a bonus resource
>rice
already a bonus resource
>potato
going to be too similar to the production gear unless they make it look like french fries, they want everything to be easily identifiable

steak or apples makes sense, but so does corn so its whatever

>>150824397
>97 is reroll
COME ON

>>150824182
>making bread out of rice
I'm curious.

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>instant purchase building
>gold goes down
>building still available to buy and not built in city
t-thanks

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>>150824458
A green stem and leaf coming out of a large tan seed/tuber is quite distinctly a potato.

Still not really necessary though.

>>150824546
Doesn't look too different. Still filled with air pockets because making gas to rise something isn't hard.
Doesn't boom as hard as wheat bread though, and is a lot more crumbly. Because it lacks gluten, which is what gives wheat products strength and elasticity.

>>150824458
What about just a generic leaf?

>>150824696
Weeaboo, please.

>>150824802
Great. Now I want to eat some ride bread.

>>150824865
You don't eat leaves, so no.

>>150811456
Holy fuck please kill me that's embarrassing.

>>150825041
No, Jojo. We will remember this.

>>150824802
>is quite distinctly a potato
To us. Not to everyone.

>>150825378
Let me guess, you don't know how a potato look like?

>>150825378
Yeah I suppose, still everyone knows what a potato is and they can come to immediately understand what the image would represent and how it is represented.
If anything, any tiny map dot representing rice would probably be more confusing.

>>150825041
It's alpha as fuck. Johan is shitposting at a professional level. How could you view that with anything other than envy?

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>>150826596

>>150820803
>>150821245
for vote trading, can I buy their vote, then send my diplomat to another civ to buy their vote, and repeat, or do I need to leave a diplomat with the civ I bought the vote from for it to last?

>>150824335
You are a loser in real life

>>150826874
I think the diplomats extra votes thing is entirely seperate, and the buying votes is just an ordinary trade transaction. I've never used diplomats or bought votes though.

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Working with the galaxy generator mod tool thingy. First iteration fo my grid galaxy. Currently too spaced out though, no star is in reach of your homeworld :^)

>>150826874
Yeah but don't forget that diplomats take 5 turn in a city before being able to do anything, so you can I think buy maximum from 5 civs in one session, as you can't buy votes during the voting turn

>trying to play civbert in the late game
>godawful ui somehow worse than civ5
>only 3 planes per city, no way to increase it
>planes are both bombers and fighters
>decide to build carriers for more planes
>carriers only carry 1 plane
The only redeeming factor is that all of the planes get air repair for free, and heal like 60 hp a turn and get bonuses for fighting at full health

>>150826596
Normies don't even know who Vercingetorix is.

>>150828349
The Gaul hero who was executed by Caesar?

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>"""""Unique"""""" Building
>Electronics Factory
>Film Studio

>>150828401
>normies

>>150815797
What are you doing?! Range is king since 1.2, get destroyers and cruisers, corvets are cannon fodder. Put your longest range modules on em.

>>150828349
I remember that name from age of empires

>>150828528
It is for egypt ;)

>>150829192
Normies don't play AoE.

>logistics and range promoted great lighthouse ship of the line with exploration opener
Is there a scarier unit?

>>150829320
Yes they do you fucking retard, ever eaten cerial?

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>load my last save after the new patch
>all my resources are gone
>income dropped to zero
>science income, too
>all strategic resources gone
Thanks Paradox.

>>150829760
Haruhi, please.

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>>150829760
>You will never tease haruhi about her crush

>>150829406
Logistics range and march Keshik sitting on a khan would be pretty scary. Would that make it heal at least 25hp per turn?

>>150830356
Can you even get logistics, range and march on a keshik? It doesn't start with barrage or accuracy.

epic dindu memes aside, is the african kingdoms worth 10 euros?

>>150830598
Pretty sure you can earn them so it'd be possible, but unlikely since you'd need 6 promotions / at least 158xp (not 210 because of Quick Study getting promos 50% faster).
Range and barrage/accuracy would be obsolete when upgrading to cavalry though.

>>150830870
For Age of Empires 2?
I think, yeah. It adds new stuff to the existing factions if I remember right.

>>150830962
Isn't the max level 5 though?

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>>150830993
Not in vanilla or the Samurai scenario at least. I'll see if I have any other cases.

>>150831538
>playing a Japanese
>have a trireme
No.

>>150831609
What do you mean 'No'?
It's right there.
Put on your glasses.

>>150831843
Triremes are greeks. Not Japanese.

>>150831538
Also, I can't tell whether that unhappiness was bugged before or after reloading that old save.
It sure wasn't -223 back then though.

>>150831871
Mediterranean in general actually.

But lo and behold, there it is in the Yellow Sea.
Undeniably so.
No amount of 'No's can change that.

>>150832014
>No amount of 'No's can change that.
(No.)x infinity.

>Venetian Arsenal +Great Engineer points, receive a second navel vessel when every you build one in this city
Sounds a bit OP I think

>>150832549
Petra sounds absolutely horrifying though.

>>150833170
Don't worry I'm sure it'll be sniped by Mr "I only have one tile of desert" like in Civ V

>Geneva (Scientific) Bonus Science when not at War
I was sure Geneva would be economic
>God King - +1 Faith and +1 Gold in Capital.
Out of every fucking thing, they nerf God King? What the fuck?
>Stonehenge +Faith, Free Great Prophet, Must: on flat land, next to Stone
>next to Stone
Firaxis either really don't do their researches or they have some kind of different reason for doing this, it's still retarded

>>150833901
A bit stupid considering that half the reason Stonehenge is remarkable is that the stone is from fucking miles away from the site.

>>150834215
Fucking kek that's what I get for trying to type while a popup was over my reply bar

>>150829415
What are you on about?

Is there an Unlocker a la CK2/EU4 for Stellaris yet? Don't wanna churn out the buckeroos for plants quite yet.

>>150834279
He misspelt cereal, referring to the time Kelloggs or whoever had a deal where there was a free copy of AoE 1 + Rise of Rome in every box.
At least we had it here in Australia.

>>150835073
I didn't even notice the plants were out.
Checking the usual spot, they acknowledge the existence of the DLC pack coming out yet, not sure if the version is patched yet though, didn't bother reading too deep into it.

Just go to good old cs DOT rin DOT ru/forum and search for stellaris.

>>150835251
Normies these days? When I say normie I mean "ignorant chucklefuck" more than anything else.

>>150833170
>Petra is already one of the best wonders
>it's now like 80% better
lmao

>>150832549
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>>150833170
>>150835780
What are you guys talking about?

>>150833901
I think I heard them mention all the swiss city states are scientific during the brazil stream.
God King is arguably better since everyone gets it and it's a policy, not a pantheon

>>150835341
I'm not the person you're replying to, just communicating a fact that I think they were trying to that I felt not everyone might be aware of.

I generally agree with your definition of a meme word as is.

Anyone have an interesting "let's play civ 5" series to share? I can win consistently on deity with the generic 3-5 city tradition opener but I'd love to watch another strategy from a player who knows more than me. Maddjinn had some good ones but maybe something newer (bnw-present)?

>>150836182
Absolute Zero has started doing some Civ5 deity games, though he mostly does Deity games of Civ4. He's an absolute madman most of the time.

>>150836754
thanks, exactly what I'm looking for. this guy's great.

>>150836954
t. Absolute Zero

>>150837136
Hi Maddjinn.

>>150836182
Filthyrobot did a 1v5 deity earlier.

>>150837232
Hi Muad'Dib.

>>150836954
>>150837136
lol

his videos are pretty low frame rate and super unprofessional and his audio is always too loud or too quiet but it all adds to this almost alantutorial (he's not retarded though) effect that makes them interesting to watch.

>>150837282
Always preferred his edgelord son to be quite honest with you.

Finally managed to install EUI. And it crashes CIV5.

>>150837373
You now remember that in the Brian Herbert books Muad'Dib is reincarnated to ride sandworms into the pre-Butlerian-Jihad Thinking Machines' evil capital planet

>Decide to check Filthy Robot because people recommend him and apparently he has tutorial videos
>His video on Settling Capital is half an hour
Holy shit

>>150839548
How you reincarnate something that exists only in the future?

>>150839548
>Muad'Dib is reincarnated to ride sandworms into the pre-Butlerian-Jihad Thinking Machines' evil capital planet
I'm going to pretend I never read that.

>>150839548
brian herbert needs to stop

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>>150839645
Err... that's, the Thinking Machines that existed preceding the Butlerian Jihad but then in all the intervening time they weren't ded they were just hiding in the far reaches of space but now THEY'RE BACK

>>150839676
> I'm going to pretend I never read that
This is the correct attitude to take

>>150839548
I have never actually read baby boii brian's stuff, but did look it up on wikis and shit, my general attitude is similar to:
>>150839676

I'm fairly good at keeping a headcanon when somebody absolutely fucks up a franchise I adore.

I don't even like Dune THAT much. I adore the setting and appreciate that it brought all which followed. But beyond a fanatical reverence for God Emperor of Dune in particular the series isn't one of my real favorites.

>>150839961
I like the first one. The one that inspired all the games. The others are a bit depressing.
>Paul goes to the desert after getting blind
>then come back
>then get murdered by one of his own priest

>>150840051
The first one is certainly the best story in and of itself.
The rest go on to bring messages rather than stories. And yeah, lots of suffering.
Poor loli.

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>>150839961
I thought that Dune was the only series I ever read that was like Lord of the Rings in the sense of the complete autism with which the author built the fictional world. My edition of Dune had footnotes and in-line citations, leading to this huge index at the back full of notes about the story's universe. It was amazing.

And then Brian shat all over it.
Actually in fairness I blame Kevin J. Anderson, the co-author. His own sci-fi series are so fucking awful that I suspect he's the one who caused Brian to fuck up.

>>150839676
Oh and not him but during one of the most desperate parts of the struggle, the Spacing Guild cart out their time goddess-thing to save everyone.

In Endless Legend, can't the Broken Lords theoretically survive forever even after Auriga permanently goes to shit and becomes a frozen world? It's not like they need food to sustain themselves.

>>150839416
How can you be this bad at technology?

>>150840338
>Spacing Guild cart out their time goddess
Yeah, no.

>>150840358
They're still vulnerable to wounds, and they need sustainance. They can use DUST or souls.
They're tough and vampire-like but not invincible.

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>>150840338
> Tio Holtzmann is a fraud
> his Mary Sue wife invented both Bene Geserit, the Navigators, and every useful invention in the Dune universe

>>150811456
What the fuck is mana

>>150840315
I think the series is pretty good, I read a lot of Asimov shit including Foundation and while it's interesting as fuck, I still consider the original Dune trilogy to be better. Never read the rest of the Dune stuff beyond the original trilogy though.

>>150839676
>I'm going to pretend I never read that.
I wish I could pretend I never read all of the sequels and prequels by Brian. Twice.

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>>150840570
The other three by Frank Herbert are worth reading; #4 is legitimately great and #5&6 are good.
Avoid anything by Brian like the plague

>>150840705
I stopped reading when Paul's brother becomes a giant slug and the emperor.

>>150840475
>dustfuckmyshitupfam.jpg

>>150840358
There's actually a few that showed up as heroes in Endless Space, even though Endless Space came first, so yes, it's canon that at least a few Broken Lords survived the death of Auriga.
The rest though... with perma-winter all the creatures they were harvesting Dust from will die due to 0food, and they'll still starve. That, or go crazy from going cold-turkey on their soul-leeching.

>>150840705
Yeah, I want and plan to read them.
Shame we don't have many good games about them. I never played the strategy games as at the time I was playing C&C and didn't even knew about Dune.
I wish there was a Warband or STALKER-like game for it, maybe a mod.

>that poster
I wish I could forget the whole Dune movie.