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Previous >>150907409


http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20160730

>Anniversary Rewards

1. Singles are 3 quartz now, and Ten is 30. Forever.
2. 30 free quartz.
3. One week of anniversary login bonuses.
4. Automatic expansion of Servant and CE inventory sizes to 300. If you spent any Quartz before, you get a refund.
5. 1st Anniversary CE.
6. Jeanne, Waver and Vlad Animation update
7. Great and Super success rates have been tripled
8. 1/2 AP for all daily quests
9. New Servant Strengthening quests
10. Grail Ascension added, Max level is 100

To reach level 100:
5 grails for 5*
7 grails for 4*
9 grails for 3*
10 grails for 2*
10 grails for 1*

Swimsuit Event news on 8/10

Da Vinci Rateup along with different chapter servants.

Pay to win Gatcha has been split between Knights and Calvary with a guaranteed 5*. Can only be used once and it uses paid quartz.

New bond CEs for Mordred, Jack, Nursery Rhyme, Robin Hood, Ushiwakamaru, Jing Ke, Lu Bu, George, Leonidas and Mozart.

>4* Anniversary Heroines CE
10% attack up, Three stars per turn
>5* Leisure Walk
Crit Weight 400%, Arts up 10%
>5* Participation of the King
Buster 10%, NP charge 50%
>4* Goldfish SCooping
Sure hit, Buster 8% up
>3* Fire Flower
Star gen 5% up, Crit damage 5% up

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
New vers - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones, & androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Translations Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/URc62gex

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info

>Camelot Spoilers
http://pastebin.com/bxy64aiH

>Max Servant stats
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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1st for swimsuits will be another disappointment aside from Kiyohime
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>Lily Buff When
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With any luck Kiyoshit will be scrapped from the swimsuit event. Don't want to deal with those cucks flooding these threads with their shitty waifu.
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>tfw Cu is now invincible
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>>150928595
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4* or 5*?
Snake body or human body?
Snake hair or human hair?
Breaker Gorgon or something else?
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>>150928427
>rolled almost everything from the anniversary
>all I got was a liz np upgrade
I almost forgot that generous rewards mean nothing if the gatcha is still shit.
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Dragons go GAO!
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>confirmed 5*
Soon, Semibros
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We talk about how much everything is bad in this game all the time but surely there is something good about it if it keeps people playing and makes so much money right?
Right?
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>>150928729
god that liz is adorable
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>>150928789
waifus and husbandos
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LIZ THREAD
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>>150928789
the Fate franchise. That's about it really.
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Who else didn't roll anything for anniversary like me.
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New gacha news when?
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>>150928882
Just spend one ticket and a 6 quartz to get off my itchiness to roll.
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>>150928904
Higher than I would have thought
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>>150928789
Animations and overall battle system is a little better than most mobages, and the art done on the characters sticks well with me. still mostly because of Fate's designs, nasu is a hack, and /fgog/
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>>150928427
that's a cute Kiyohime, anon.
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>>150928595
>>150928659
Damn now I feel bad about it.
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>>150928595
I guess I'll fully ascend her today.
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>>150928595
Feels good having her at her final ascension, max level as soon as I finish up with getting Karna to 100.
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>>150929046
I blame DW for not actually adding at least 1000 stats to her attack during the Saber Wars event. She needed some rework like a lot
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I can finally sleep.
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>>150928427

Skill interlude(s) when?
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>http://pastebin.com/E1EDWdY6

Updated with Okita.

If anyone has a link to a video of her line with Sasaki, I'd appreciate it. I'm not sure if she's supposed to be surprised at Sasaki killing some super buff swallow or if she's just confused at him talking about ordinary birds.

Current queue:
1. Ibaraki
2. Vlad
3. Shuten [though chaldeum has her]
4. Tamamo Cat
5. Erik
?. Altera, someday
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>>150928904
NP interlude when
Skill strengthening when
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>>150929214
Please start sorting them under class or starting letter please. It's starting to become a pain to read.
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>>150928595
How Dare You!
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>>150929214
Thanks,friend.
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>>150929214
I don't have a video, but it sounds more like surprised that it's just a regular swallow
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>>150929357
But it's sorted according to the pokedex, anon.
ever heard of ctrl+f?
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>>150928595
Lily will always be on my team!
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>>150929409
Thanks!

>>150929357
Once I hit 40 or so I'll start breaking it up into multiple pastebins. I don't intend to stop sorting it via Servant number though, because I am OCD about that sort of thing.
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>>150929357
ctrl+F nigga
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>>150929205
MY EYES ! MY EYES !
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>>150928595
>I use her on my Saber team

feels good.
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>>150929441
>>150929515

The pokedex has numbers differentiating each servant,this does not. Besides think about people like Artoria who is listed in this thing as "Arturia" while most people are used to calling her "Saber" or for her Alter version "Alter Saber." It doesn't function well.
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>have 5 grails left
Should I use them now to max someone to 100 or just wait until there's a better method of getting more grails?
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Best CE for Martha?
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>>150928595
Weaklings being bullied turns me on
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>>150929625
Well if it's really that big a deal for you, I can add the numbers.
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When?

>yfw he is voiced by Sugita
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>>150928427
>1. Singles are 3 quartz now, and Ten is 30. Forever.
That's pretty based
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>>150929781
Sugita is ridiculously overrated
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>>150929625
>It doesn't function well.
>it literally takes 10 seconds
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>>150929214
Maybe you should make a summary header, it would help to see what's is in the list (and thus what isn't).
It would also solve >>150929357 's problem
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>>150929781
same time as tiberius
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>>150928789
Stockholm syndrome.
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>>150929808
He's pretty much the same voice every time. It's especially jarring when it's a dub of a western movie. But at least his one voice is a good one.
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>>150929802
It's a scam to trick people into buying more quartz. The rates are still shit and I wouldn't be surprised if they secretly lowered the chances to jew us over even more.
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>>150929802
It's not.
It means you'll never hit the 1% chance no matter how many times you roll so it doesn't matter.
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>>150929930
>>150929948
Shit.
at least I don't play the game no more
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>>150928789
I don't let the bad stuff bother me. I'm used to it.
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>>150930006
That's why DW will never improve.
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>>150928427
You know, I was just thinking
Seeing how Gilgamesh is so strong not really because of his own legend but more because he's the first legend of them all and this gives him claim rights over every other legend
How strong would Herodotus be? He barely has a legend at all but he's usually considered the first historian, with control over the legends of the past depending on how he depicts them.
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>>150930054
But they improve all the time
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>>150930089
Thinking on that, would that make him stronger than caster merlin? He can literally just make shit up to be his attacks same with his noble phantasm.
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>>150930089
Depends if he's a waifu or a husbando Nasu wants to push.
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>>150929808
Sugita is pretty good when he voices characters who are basically him.
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>>150930054
Which is why I don't give them money.
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>>150930196
That's my point
I was bored yesterday and trying to come up with the strongest possible servants
Adam, Eve and Lilith are obviously retarded strong, they have claim over all humanity that followed, but I'd expect the strongest after them to be the first historian or the first bard, he not only has claim over all legends that ever will be but can just make shit up on the spot
>uhhhh no Arthur you didn't have a sword, it was just a rock and a bad one at that.
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>Robin deals higher damage than Euryale on male
Is this normal?
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Can't wait for all the kiyocucks to rage when she turns out to be the worst gold lancer in the game.
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>>150930054
Not like you can't do anything about it.
They don't change for 1 year despite getting thousand complaints and tons of money from nips,what a poorfag anon at imageboard can do?
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>>150929832
Done.
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>>150928595
Fuck you I'm mad now, I don't even care about lily to start with but fuck
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>>150930089
Homer'd be better at it.
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>>150930360
It has a happy ending though. With her, alter and gudako in a threesome
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>>150930305
How new?
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>17 tickets
>Spend all of them
>Get two Da Vincis
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>>150930303
He can re-write their personality and behaviours too.
Mind controlling characters into attacking their master would be pretty crazy.
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>>150930312
>>150928628
You seem mad.
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>>150928687
5*
First Beast Servant.
Full Gorgon Form.

I wish.
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>>150930454
Mind control is alway a crazy abilty to have if you can't resist it
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>>150928536
>>150928628
Why would you be so mean?
What did Kiyo do to you?
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>>150930458
Some people just can't take their waifus not getting swimsuits.
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>>150928687
>4* or 5*?
3*
>Snake body or human body?
Snake but with tits on top.
>Snake hair or human hair?
Stylized snakes.
>Breaker Gorgon or something else?
who gives a shit, sneks are garbage
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So are expectations for swimsuit event being that it'll be one of the worst, most disappointing events yet? They've hyped it up for months now, so really anything less than CE's for all servants (like valentines) would be a disappointment. Add in the fact that we're not likely to get a welfare (because we're not getting ce's for every servant) and it's going to be hot garbage.
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>>150928595

When you lose an account forever

>Every day, your main servant will be looking across a black window wondering when you'll return
>Unaware of the fact that you had a lapse of judgement that would have caused the two of you to never reunite, travel to different worlds grinding for ascension mats
>Every day your servants will wait for you with optimism in their hearts
>Holding steadfast to this hope in their minds
>"Today is the day that Master will return, I just know it"
>Even though they wait for you with such zeal in their hearts, a tiny portion of their heart dies each day you don't return
>Yet they don't want to admit it, because to accept reality that they will never see their beloved Master again would be too much of a heartbreak
>So they continue to wait for you, not just for your sake, but for the sake of their deteriorating sanity as well, whether they're aware of it or not
>They wait for you to open that door again
>The door that leads to your room where everyone has spent countless hours having fun
>Greeting new allies and friends to go on an adventure with.
>Congratulating each other when they reach their best to protect their beloved Master
>Your room where you used to see everyone's' smiles when they gain a new power to protect you
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>>150929214
Cute, thanks senpai.
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>>150930529
It's not mind control though
It's overwrite. You could literally change Arthur's personality to be like Lu Bu and almost compulsively attack her master.

>>150930606
>>>/xcom/
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>>150930529
I think the only way you could make him not overpowered is by having him not instantly recognise the other servants on sight, it would make the noble phantasm revealing even more of a double edged sword since he could easily win if it didn't kill him.
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>>150930551
The first one is praising Kiyoshitter you dumb Kiyofucker.
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I'm going to focus on leveling David to 80.
After him should I use my last two Grails to level Ushi or Serenity Hassan to 80?
Or forget them altogether and use them on David to get him to lv 90?
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>>150930662
He can just give himself invincibility though, and not the half-assed version Achilles has. Actually he should be able to outright summon servants or legendary armies.
>actually you see I had Heracles working for me

>>150930695
I'm sleepy as fuck.
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>>150930606
If her Gorgon form is a fucking 3* then I'm fucking giving my account away and killing myself
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Scathach or Shuten-doji for 2nd GA? or save for Minamoto return to GA?
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>>150928789
I literally only stick around because i've been waiting for one servant.

That's fucking it
The moment their rate up kicks in and I roll and ascend them I am goddamn out.
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>>150930627
It's going to be worse than Ibaraki, that's for sure. DW always finds new ways to disappoint and ruin the game further even when your expectations are rock bottom.
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>>150930764
Nice. I wish more snekfags would kill themselves.
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>>150930764
Remember to post the webm
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>>150930797
It can't be any worse than Go West though, right? I mean, it can't possibly just be 3 shit CE's with a so-so shop, right?
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>>150930627
It would be literally impossible for it to be more disappointing than Rashoumon.

Swimsuit Kiyohime was already confirmed. :^)
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>>150930764
Maybe you should kill yourself now for having such a shit taste beyond repair
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I've been away since before Camelot
Has Melvin left?
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>really want to roll the Gil CE
>hasn't shown up after 60 quartz and 10 tickets
>down to 140 quartz and 5 tickets and want to save those for Camelot gacha #2

Help me stop
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>>150930863
What if her design is awful and she's a shit unit?
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>>150930606
>best girl's alternative version
>not gold
wew
e
w
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>>150930916
Suck off Gilgamesh for more Quartz
I love that femGil doujin I found yesterday
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>>150930348
Nice, thanks.
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>>150930863
>Kiyoshit

Wow thanks for reminding me how it will be shittier than Rashoumon
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>>150930963
>best girl
>shittiest girl in all of F/SN
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>>150930848
Shut up, the event had one of the best CE in the game.
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Who /nograilsleft/ here?
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>>150930937
>gameplay
whatever, play with the servants you like.

>>150930963
>getting filtered when he isn't the jetfag
what are you doing
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>>150930627
>timed gorilla quests
>you need to have this and this 5* servants to farm this and this efficiently so that you can unlock missions x,y an z that let you farm the next row of farmables
>all missions consume bp
>swimsuit servants are just special supports that you get to use exactly once in the event story
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>>150930863
>think everyone have shit taste like him
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>>150931000
>No grails
>No apples
>No quartz
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>>150930416
Now I need to have the sauce.
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Which servants aren't weak to EE?
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>>150930627
I don't know if I'd consider mentioning it once hyping it for months.
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>>150930627
>CE's for all servants (like valentines)
Please no this is a terrible idea. It's a real pain in the ass to fill the pokédex with this kind of CE.
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>>150930627
But they haven't hyped it up that much at all. It's just people here being retarded about it because they're hoping for a new version of their favorite servant so they can roll for her all over again.
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Tbh KnK collab was the last good event.
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>>150931242
It's an event that hypes itself.
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>>150931221
Star Servants.
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>>150930980
Kill yourself, shit-eating scum.
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>>150931324
>so they can roll for her all over again
>for her
>her

If you're not excited for Emiya in a speedo, you can just get out.
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>>150931327
Zero Event was fine
It just overstayed its welcome
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>>150928595

So is there fucking more to this or something? If so post it because reverse image searching it yields goddamn nothing
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>>150931382
That's never ever gonna happen, though.
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>>150931431
It's a porn.
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>>150929214
>What do I hate?...Hmm, if I really had to say, there's actually a lot of things...Though...I wouldn't say I hate it, but...Getting sick of eating is kinda, how do I put this...
>Things that I hate? ...Hmmm, if I have to say something then I suppose... takuan. Oh, no, it's not that I HATE it. It's just that if I'm being honest, I'd say that I've grown tired of eating it, or something like that...

Did the first guy read takuan as takusan or something?
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>>150931382
The only male this event needs is a luggage carrier.
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>>150931431
It's futanari
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>>150931431
https://exhentai.org/g/945878/f2cb80aa94/
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>>150931407
Jesus christ those yaoi hands.
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>>150931221
Mozart
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>>150931587
That just links to some raccoon picture
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>>150931489
Just like male welfare wasn't going to happen, and we got Kintoki?

I'll love for Welfare speedo EMIYA while waifufags have to whale their waifu in the gacha.
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how long does it takes for the payment got through?

is it instant?
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>>150931242
>>150931324
>shills already running damage control for how shit the event will be
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>>150931635
Kintoki appeals to both demographics
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>swimsuit welfare is spartacus in mankini
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>>150931327
>not liking Onigashima
That event is pretty neat,not great tier,but good enough.
Da Vinci too,and Prison Tower has a nice setting.
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>>150931706
I bet you're one of those people who expect them to announce free 5* every time they have some kind of celebration and get disappointed every time.
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>>150928427
Xth for Best Pirates
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>>150931706
It must be a real struggle for you to attempt to be objective
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>>150931741
Onigashima was absolute trash, as was Da Vinci.
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>>150931809
Already warned you about it, anon
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>>150931714
So does EMIYA.
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>>150931832
>t.anon who can't finish 3BP
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>>150931842
Speedo Emiya, anon
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>>150931809
There's always that one where she goes full Bluebeard and grows tentacles out of her pussy
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>>150928595
>Emiya is main party

Female master, everyone.
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>>150931832
>Onigashima was absolute trash
>got best 4* in the entire game
Retard.
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>>150931769
I bet you're one of those people who think you're somehow objectively better because you blindly defend everything DW pull despite them actually being worse than the mobage average in many ways, which is an already-scummy genre.
>>150931786
Likewise, I don't think you know what the word "objectivity" means. Defending DW on everything they pull no matter how lazy or anti-consumer it is is the very opposite of objectivity.
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>>150931886
At least she gets laid.
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>3 hours left
>don't know if I wanna do the paid gacha or not

On the one hand, I'd like a new 5*.
On the other hand, I don't know if I wanna give DW my money after this fiasco of an anniversary.
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>>150931564
>>150931505
>>150931587

>It's a female master grows a dick and fucks her into usefulness episode
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>>150931969
Who do you want?
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>>150931876
Yes? It panders to me.
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>>150931969
Think of it this way, you could either get dupes and unwanted 5* or multiple golds that you actually want. After that, decide if it still worth it
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So lads, what is currently the best CE for Mordred?
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>>150929214
I didn't even notice that you updated Euryale. Thank you anon.
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>>150931969
This is why refunding the max amount you could get during new year, and then saving your paid quartz for a future paid gacha was a good idea.
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Thinking about it, there's any Emiya and Arturia doujin?
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>>150932025
I kind of want Jeanne, Ozzy, Jack or Tamamo.

>>150932064
My only knight unit is Okita, I do have Vlad and Nightingale though.

The odds of rolling a guy in the knight gacha are 1/4, all the dudes in the Cavalry one are fine. I could risk a 1/5 chance of getting a dupe but knowing my luck it'd happen.
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Wife now at her best! Apples invested for her completely worth it.
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>>150932190
Blurry as fuck art
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>>150932159
Yes. But only one scanned and translated.
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>>150931965
Correcting your misunderstanding about how often they've hyped the event definitely means I'm willing to take a bullet for Delight Works.
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>>150932225
>everyone who posts things I dont agree with is the same person
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>>150932225
You're either with us or against us, no in-between.
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>>150931965
Here's the thing though
The event may be trash but they legit didn't hype it. The content of the event hypes itself.
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>>150932159
Non-H ones
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>>150931965
Yeah, we can't let them get away with this horrible swimsuit that I know will be shit because it can't live up to the high expectations they gave me.
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>>150932173
In that case, roll the cavalry gacha if you really want any of the characters from those classes. From there on, you just have to rely on RNG anon
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>>150932379
No, there are H ones too. Recently I saw one with futa Saber ramming her dick into EMIYA.
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>>150930627
>They've hyped it up for months now
They didn't though.
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>>150932279
Fuck off nigger
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>>150930627
They only show leaked images. How is that hype?
If anything, it's the people who have been hyping it, not DW.
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>>150932529
DW is the smartest company in mobage game desu, they hype up fucking nothing so when it's released and everyone realises how shitty it is they can just point out that "you should keep your expectations at an acceptable level".
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>>150932641
Maybe if you are delusional
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>>150932627
The only event they hyped was that disastrous first raid.
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>>150932725
Are those skills bad? I rarely even use any
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>>150932641
They barely mentioned the swimsuit event, how is that hyping it up for months?
Most of the time, it's the fanbase's fault for hyping things too much.

>disastrous first raid
It's fine for me actually, the key is having loads of SSR.
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>>150932725
It's alright.
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>>150932641
>this is the retard that thought DW is god tier company that will give free 5*
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>>150932779
>the key is having Waver

Fix it for you.
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>>150932779
I never said they hyped it up I was just saying stupid shit because I hate the company and apologists.
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>>150932725
>anti X skill
>not Golden Rule

1 job
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>>150932897
You should learn to love
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>>150932861
>Support Waver
I have 2 attackers,so its fine
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Second part meant to replay to>>150932739

>>150932754
First skill is the logo of Anti-X, though Emiya has that for his third skill. Anti-X could be good depending on the X.

Second skill is NP damage down, which could be decent if it's 50%.

Third skill is debuff resist up, can only be good if it has side effects.

>>150932861
You can just borrow Waver.

>>150932897
That's understandable.
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On paper calculation, servants at equal level.

Not counting Li's NP ignore defense trait, NP 5 Gay Bulge can deals slightly higher damage.

Saber Alter is the best AoE Saber, even better than Altera, unless you're fighting dragon and bring Sumanai, that is.

Best AoE Lancer is Titturia, in second place is NP 5 uncle Hector. It's not in every stage you fight three divine Archer in one wave, but if you do Karna is the top one here.

Shiki do more damage than Jack, unless you're against female enemy.

Also, NP 5 Lu Bu actually far outdamage even Kintoki and Cuzilla, the fuck?

Still not sure about how Seigi no Bomberman's overcharge bonus damage works. Either he's below Arjuna or deals twice the damage of Enuma Elish.
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>>150932954
You love DW?
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Passive aggressive reminder that we're going to have a week of nothing before swimsuits
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>>150932954
I love myself every day
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>>150933052
>Also, NP 5 Lu Bu actually far outdamage even Kintoki and Cuzilla, the fuck?
Without Equal among All Under Heaven.
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>>150933052
>Best AoE Lancer is Titturia
No it isn't. It's Titturia Alter. Slightly higher attack and Noble Phantasm does extra damage through curse plus she's had her NP interlude. If you're not going to be accurate with your information fuck off.
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>>150933075
みんな大好き
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>>150933090
Camelot Rate-Ups

Bedivere, Gawain, Tristan, and Tituria
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>>150933090
No, they're going to announce surprise extension of half AP and triple success rate to help us level our grail ascended servants.
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>>150933189
I'm pretty sure he meant Alter from the start.
The vanilla one is so bland and shit that people just forget about her
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>>150933052
Arash NP5 is 1200% multiplier with +200% every level of overcharge

Also numbers on NP5 Lu Bu damage? I'm curious to see it. My only 5* Zerker is Vlad so I was thinking of using Grails on Herc/Lancelot to 90 to get some more conventional BBB zerker units but if Lu Bu is that good I might try using him.
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>>150933224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYcP6YmDpc
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>>150933090
a week to catch up on strengthening quests and camelot free quests
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>>150933052
You should put an extra reminder that this is just NPs or you might trick people into using them
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>>150933052
>Best AoE Lancer is Titturia
That's utterly and totally wrong as that 5* piece of shit loses out in attack,has 2 straight out worse skills and even has a worse Noble Phantasm.

She doesn't belong in best anything.
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>>150933189
That's right, I mistaken it in my table, my bad.

>>150933164
What?
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>>150933260
>both alter arturias are better than their vanilla counterparts

Someone in DW must be a pretty big Alterfag.
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>>150933052
>Also, NP 5 Lu Bu actually far outdamage even Kintoki and Cuzilla, the fuck?
>NP5
Uhhh.

Also while NP is one of the important thing aspect of a servant, skills and other things like star gen matters too.
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>>150933315
LB is usually has that title. It's where the DW meme of UNRIVALLED comes from, his actual title even in history is (besides Flying General and God of War) "Unrivaled under Heaven".
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>>150933302
anyone dumb enough to think lu bu out damages any of those other berserkers without using NP is a retard anyway
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>>150933260
Then he should say that. Honestly, Titturia is so badly designed here is literally no fixing her at this point. She's designed to be a very tough boss fight (ignoring invincibility and dodge basically forces you to stall a lot or stack your team full of big hitting Sabers (including Mordred) and maybe MHX. For you though, enemies rarely use either, so the extra effects are just crap.
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>>150933394
>DW
oops
"Dynasty Warriors", not "Delight Works".
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>>150933314
Compared to Alter Lancer I forgot to mention.

Also has a worse NP than Karna too and fails hard to tons of other AoEs.

>>150933347
Actually it's probably more like they're gigantic anti-artoriafags. She's straight shit in this game and is the only heroic spirit that gets upstaged by lesser incarnations.
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>>150933452
That's indecent
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>>150933347
When you think about it, Alter has always been on the offensive side compared to vanilla. It's just that in this game it's the only thing that matters.
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>>150933229
Camelot rate ups come after swimsuits lad
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>>150933545
Well Saber Alter is almost straight up better than Saber in FSN right? For one she has literally unlimited mana.
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>>150933587
That's only because of Sakura. She isn't exactly stronger normally with her lesser instinct.
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>>150933587
Thanks to Sakura, yes.
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How bad is Mordred in the game? Better than Alter Saber in general?
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>>150933587
>For one she has literally unlimited mana
And that's the only reason. Other than unlimited mana she loses a bunch of stats, rank down on personal skills and loses a class skill. If anything she's nerfed as shit as Alter. But again, Sakura exists so she can just spam Morgan all day long
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>>150933475
What a qt.
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Saber Alter has more power but less AGI and magic resistance
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>>150933623
>>150933632
>>150933668
Yeah but can Alters even exist without getting dunked in grail juice? I thought it came with the deal, you get dunked for basically 100000000% mana. Who are the other canon Alters?
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Finally caved in and buy quartz for paid gacha

Damn it's... worth it?
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>>150933491
What do Lily's armpits taste like?
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>>150933759
Cute roll
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>>150933740
This game has gone out of its way to establish that there are other ways to make Alters.
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If a servant die and revived because of guts, do they lose their buffs?

>>150933759
Nope.
Unless you barely have any SSR.
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>>150933260
>>150933347
>>150933408
>>150933480
>>150933545
>>150933587


Vanilla Titturia isn't that bad, Titturia Alter hits somewhat harder but Vanilla has very good NP gain and has a niche as an AoE spammer (right now I don't think there's a lot of them). As of now she's underpowered but it's a certainty she will have an interlude in the future so nabbing her during her rate up isn't a bad idea, once her NP is at the standard 400% she will be pretty good. Karna also desperately needs an interlude NP buff.

Vanilla Arturia has it worse, Alter hits harder than her on all fronts (demolishes her on NP front with extra 50% modifier) and to top it off they have the exact same NP gain so Arturia can't even spam her NP more. The only thing she has going for her is more HP and a slightly stronger Charisma.
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>>150933740
Jeanne and Cu are the result of a wish rather than grail mud corruption
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>>150933904
Neither are the real person though, they're fanfiction based on a real person.
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>>150933797
thanks

>>150933825
Tesla, vlad, attila [100], waver and jeanne. Last SSR was tesla and it was back in march or something. The crippling depression really got me and my rolls in these events really bad so i finally caved in. I was expecting ozy but at least its not duplicate vlad / waver
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>>150933903
Buffing instinct decently could even things out
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>>150933663
She's not bad at all, best aor saber imo
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>>150933970
I actually advise people to not roll gacha if they have 5-6 SSR in different classes, class dupe sucks and servant dupe is even worse.

Saber class' best is Attila and they're all AoE.
It's the same for Lancers.
Archers' sucks but at least there's a ST there.
Rider 2:3, pretty good, at least Medb is a trophy.
Caster is 1:2, Casko is the backbone of an arts team, Waver doesn't need to be explained, the other two doesn't sucks but not that exceptional either, Sanzo is at least a ST.
Assassin only has Jack, so, good.
Berserker is good, though Vlad needs to be in an arts team.
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>>150933903
Vanilla Arturia has better animations.
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>>150934320
>roll paid gacha
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With the anniversary event coming to a close in a few hours or so, how would you rate it, /fgog/? What went right or wrong from DW?
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>>150934486
It was an event?
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>>150933903
>Vanilla has very good NP gain
She basically has to because she only has 1 Arts card.

Also the niche of AoE spamming has been filled quite decisively by Tesla,Gilgamesh and Drake so it's pretty whatever.

>>150933408
> Titturia is so badly designed here is literally no fixing her at this point.
Not true.

Her skills just need to become better and she'll be fine. DW just held back too much and only gave her one thing that made her unique unlike most 5*s who have two things.
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>>150934507
I would assume you could create a JP Amazon account with a public address somewhere in Japan. Don't know if you need a Japanese credit card or if Paypal would work.
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>>150934531
Sorry meant to say week
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>>150934486
Very poor. Reducing gacha rates is nice but not very meaningful in the long run, and they've probably only done it so they can charge quartz for grails without as much backlash. Grail Ascension is the worst thing I've seen from DW in a long time.
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>>150934486
It was alright but Grail Ascension was underwhelming.
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>>150934320
from my lineup, it was 3 - 2 in favor of rolling 2nd gacha, i was hoping for ozy or any single target SSR, getting sanzo was pretty much okay since i panicked hoping it's not another waver

the other 3 SR are pretty okay too IMO

the problem is that i'm at end game and have NOTHING to do. my 300 servant slot constantly filled because i keep grinding exp card while QP means nothing since i have nothing to spend on.

The grail upgrade was fun, at least it gave me something [200 + exp card for attila]

how's my roll though? SSR [guaranteed] + 3 SR was pretty OK IMO, i panicked several times because i dont want any duplicate [getting waver dupe fucking sucks]

i also desperate for single target NP since none of my team could do it [vlad was ok, he is really a glass canon]
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>>150934486
My complaint is the lack of limited paid gacha
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Jesus fucking christ
Why is this guy so fucking based?
Medea feet when?
>>
10 free blank saint graph in 6 hours
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>>150934559
All gold lancers except Shuwen and Fionn have QQABB and Arturia has the best NP gain out of all of them (Bryn comes close)

Tesla and Drake I agree with, Gil doesn't gain much without Golden Rule but then the other two generate a lot more with their own skills up.
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Do you guys think we're ever getting events that give holy grails on a regular basis like with the skill cube things?
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>>150933268
*Ignore defense

**I put overcharge bonus at 300% bar because usually I use the main damager at 100% as the third in NP chain.
Golden Mongrel does bonus damage against all servants except a few that has star attributes, so the overcharge bonus is quite reliable.
Nobunaga has bonus against enemy with Riding, basically all Saber which she also has class advantage and become quite reliable. but I calculate this as the scenario where you do neutral damage. If the bonus is activated, she come second after Gilgamesh and before Arash
For Euryale because this is comparison between her and Artemis as anti-male. Jack outdamage Shiki if she's against female.
Special mention for Sumanai because why the fuck not?
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>>150934971
I'd rather grails be a rarity than a constant to show dedication to a character, same with BP CE.
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>>150935030
Forgot to mention, I set the level to 90 because I plan to spare some grails for later use.
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>still can't clear hands
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>>150935030
>Cu's NP modifier is 20000%
What
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>>150934685
>the problem is that i'm at end game and have NOTHING to do. my 300 servant slot constantly filled because i keep grinding exp card while QP means nothing since i have nothing to spend on.
Understandable, it's happening to me too. Try leveling skills or farming ascension items. You should play FGO as a time waster, or at least to not treat it like it's the prime game to play when you have a lot of free time.

>how's my roll though? SSR [guaranteed] + 3 SR was pretty OK IMO, i panicked several times because i dont want any duplicate [getting waver dupe fucking sucks]
If you're satisfied with Sanzo then it's a pretty good roll. Carmilla and Marie is pretty okay, Edison is good for memes.

>i also desperate for single target NP since none of my team could do it [vlad was ok, he is really a glass canon]
Get some Tamamo friends, run a Vlad-Tamamo-Waver team, it's one of the strongest team in the game.

>>150934971
It's possible that Blank Saint Quartz and/or Holy Grails replaces Crystalized Lores as the end of ladder prize.
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>>150935030
>Dog in Tightsuit

>20000%
>1589120.00

nani?!
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>>150928882
Here. Waiting for new servants. I saw these anniversary guys the first time.
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>>150935172
Just substract one 0 from the total, then.
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>>150934559
>Tituria skill upgrade

lol delusionfag. DW won't do anything. She's there as the landmine for 5* Lancers so anyone who rolls her can cry at their shit luck at getting the worst 5* Lancer in the game, beaten by at least three 4* at that.

besides her design is so bad it's gonna take a total rehaul of both NP and skills to make her usable.
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i just wanted rama but got medb, edison and helena instead fucking desire sensor
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>>150935075
And yet we don't even get an extra voice line.
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>>150933347


> Alters are better

That is simply false

More than 2k HP is better than just more 125 attack

And Vanilla Lancer with her high HP and amazing NP generation is perfect for black grail CE
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>>150934486
Worst anniversary ever. They literally did nothing right, they might as well have not bothered instead of implementing changes that are either useless or ruin the game. Don't know how one company can be so Jew.
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>>150935278
I wish

>>150935371
>450% NP modifier
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>>150935343
They should have something extra added to it but I guess adding it to every servant means they might possibly be adding voice lines / sprite work / art change later

That or they are just shit as usual.
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>>150935319
>complaining about getting an SSR and two more SR's
Fuck right off. I'm glad you didn't get what you wanted, and I hope you never do.
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>>150935312
>beaten by 3 4*s

Tituria Alter is one, Shuwen two if you want single target damage. Whose the third? Liz and Fionn are both pretty bad in comparison.

Also just realised I have all the 4* lancers now that I rolled Tituria yesterday.
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>>150933759
Carmilla is 9.5
Rest is waifu/husbandotier
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>>150935075
I get that but It's either two five stars or 1 of anything else. I like more than 1 character.
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>>150935030
Can you add Robin?
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>>150935158
>implying Amakusa isn't a literal death machine when equipped with a correct CE
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>>150935546
Is Carmilla really that good now
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>>150935431
Only Saber Alter has 450%, Tituria alter has standard 400% after interlude.
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>>150935431

>Muh NP is everything

Stop being retarded

Vanilla is more tankier, better skills, better bond CE and has better animation

Even if Morgan hits harder, Vanilla Excalibur still hits as hard as it needs to hit
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>>150935030
Main buff is the one like Mana Burst, secondary buff as you can see from the lower bonus is skills like Charisma. Artemis main buff is the anti-male. Cuzilla main buff is the one from NP overcharge.
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>>150935371
>More than 2k HP is better than just more 125 attack
As a Medbfag I wish this were true but its not. HP is almost completely redundant in this game, to the point where any increase in attack is always better than an increase in HP. If HP was so important Medb having the highest HP out of all Rider class servants (maybe even all Cavalry servants?) would make her a good unit but the fact is that's simply not true.
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>>150935573
I don't mean that we shouldn't get any more after the next singularity, just make it a less often, non-purchaseable item. Would be nice to show dedication to certain characters.
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>>150935664
The fuck is that health?
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>>150935623
Evil Witch!
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>>150935664
Unkillable weakling.
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>>150935664
>actually wasting grails on bait ascension
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>>150935715
Weakest Undefeated
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>>150935653

Medb suffers from having a large HP but a small attack stat for a 5* with some useless skills. Her problems go beyond being a HP focused servant

Arturia has a pretty good attack stat already, the focus on HP doesn't really hurts her
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>>150935646
>he fell for the tanking meme

>>150935580
This calculation based on the inherent ability of the servants. Not calculating CE, Mystic Code buff, or support. Robin is more often used with supports to give debuff, which means I should do different calculation.
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>>150935371
>thinks HP is important in this game

Fuck off redditor
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>>150935664
Rip Lancer Arthuria.
With Dragonkiller active,I am pretty sure he can tank multiple Rhon shot
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>>150935663

>What is NP interlude?

Vanilla Lancer will eventually gets her anon and she cam spam her NP unlike Alter
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>>150935030
Compare Medusa and Alex.
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>>150935470
Liz is hands down better. She has more utility skills and survivability compared to Lancer Arturia who can only do one thing, which is use her NP, and isn't even very good at that because her NP has a terrible secondary effect no one needs.
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>>150935791
The point I was conveying was that if HP was important, Medb wouldn't be as bad as she is. She has one useless skill, Charisma isn't that bad even if it has been powercrept.

For Knight Classes, Arturia has a lowish attack stat. HP just isn't important in this game, because the way it is designed is an AoE NP can still wipe your team from full health even if you have a resistance. It rarely even buys you one extra turn. It's horribly balanced.
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>>150935030
>Tituria does more damage than Karna
Karnafags BTFO.
>Arjuna is about the same with Gilga when not against servants
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>>150935816

>More 125 attack is better than 2k HP

You're the one being falling for the meme here, friend

Nowadays with raids and more hard content, HP will be more relevant than it was before

>>150935823

>Redditor

Nice boogeyman
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>>150935791
>Arturia has a pretty good attack stat already

>pretty good

She's has the least amongst the 5*s and with Grail Ascension is the only one topped by 2 4*s

She doesn't have pretty good attack at all.
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>>150935030
Why there no Overcharge bonus count on Arash?
He got 600% on that one.
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>>150935791
>Arturia has a pretty good attack stat already
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>>150935030
Karna seriously needs that NP interlude, with it he will probably get around Saber levels thanks to the 1.05 Lancers have, and that without the extra damage to divine enemies.
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>>150935986
What? Shiki's is way lower of the sabers.
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>>150935973
NP isn't everything. Karna does more regular damage, crits harder, makes more stars, and has more team utility. He's still the better 5* Lancer.
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>>150935917
This chart is to find the highest possible NP damage from lower rarity compared to golden servants, but we have two welfare Rider who both are disgustingly broken and don't really need to be compared, other than skillset synergy review, which I didn't make. I don't think I need to calculate the other Rider.
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>>150935970

Medb skillset is pretty underwhelming

Charisma's buffs is underwhelming if not coupled with another card type buff

Her charm is just sad and her body skill is good but not great

Arturia has a good attack stat that can be strenghtened by her skills and bond CE

Also HP is getting more relevant before with the advent of harder content

>>150935965

>Liz is better

Get a load of this faggot
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>>150935653
the only class where HP matters is Ruler, specifically Jeanne since she sits at effectively nearly 35k HP unless VS Berserkers, letting her 1v1 most things in the game through sheer attrition. A Level 90 Fou'd Jeanne does respectable damage even without offense CEs, a Brave chain from her deals about 25k, enough to take out the weaker Gold hands, something most non-zerker 4*s at 80 can't without attack buffs or CEs

>>150935973
Karna's NP is trash, he really needs that interlude. However his crits hit like a truck, even harder than Lancer Alter.

Arjuna's NP hits like a fucking truck, when farming hands/QP I feel like his NP hits just as if not harder than my Arturia's who is at 10/10 when my Arjuna's Prana burst is only at Lvl 7.
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>>150935973
Titturia does more because her two buffs, and even so it's by very little. And I seriously doubt this is taking into account the 5% extra they have for being Lancers anyway.
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Who here in "can't pick whom to grail ascend" hell still?
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>>150935986

>Who is Void Shiki?

Also, more than 13k attack with a good CE or the 15% bonus from her bond CE plus her 18% Charisma bonus coupled with 50% mana burst for her buster cards is pretty good
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_t3li0eYE
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>>150936059

Read >>150936234
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>>150936284
this stupid shit is still a thing?
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>>150935176
Yes, it is time waster. But i REALLY have nothing to do in it, hence the desperation. Already leveled up the skills that i deemed good or worthy, the rest are just bad

Can you expand why waver tamamo vlad is good?
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>>150936234
Why settle for 13k attack when you can get a superior 13k attack stat with Tituria Alter?
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>>150936145
The Body skill is fine. Generating NP and Health while being debuff immune is completely fine for Medb's skillset. Charisma isn't great but it's workable. As I say, the Charm is really the only problem skill because it's not even 100% even after the NP debuff resistance drop is applies.

>Also HP is getting more relevant before with the advent of harder content
Quite the opposite actually. Titturia could clear my Saber team with 1 NP because of her higher level, if anything the focus on a 3-turn wipeout is more important than ever because otherwise you face your entire team being wiped. HP is only getting more and more redundant as time goes on.

>>150936163
Yeah, I agree with that because of the Ruler class.
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>>150936317
>1 shittier saber means the point he made is null

she's still trash outside of maxed self buff and BP CE
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>>150935030
Kintoki is only 600%
And I think you misstyped Euryale's anti male bonus, it's 250% at NP5, 225% it's NP3
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>>150936231
I decided not to grail ascend anyone until I max level all of my Servants, even the bronzes.
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>>150933052
>
Best AoE Lancer is Titturia, in second place is NP 5 uncle Hector. It's not in every stage you fight three divine Archer in one wave, but if you do Karna is the top one here.
What about Romulus who gets Charisma on his NP, and also IP?
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>>150936284
>no Azoth dagger
>no Zelretch
>no Ruby
DOHOHOHOHO
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You think DW will ever do something in the future for all the 5*s who get upstaged or made near-pointless with grail ascension being an option now?
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>>150936414
She's trash even then because you could just use a Kintoki, Raikou or Jeanne Alter and do even more damage.
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>>150936231
me.

GAing 5*s is horrbly expensive (I only have 30mil QP at the moment) and I'm trying to max out skill for many of my 5*s still. A Lvl 90 5* with all their good skills at 10 is stronger than a lvl 100 5* with underleveled skills in my opinion.

>>150936331
Vlad + Tamamo + Waver/Nero Bride/Jeanne is a fantastic combo if your Vlad has at least NP2-3 (NP1 doesn't really work that well) since with Fox Wedding and other buffs Vlad's NP hits like a truck and generates a shit ton of stars, for your next attacks to crit plus art chains out the ass.. There's vids on youtube of this comp being able to spam Vlad's NP infinitely every single turn. Plus with all that healing and support buffs Vlad is nigh unkillable unless a Spriggan or Ibaraki decides to oneshot him when Waver's defense buffs/Vlad's guts is down.

I think a NP5 Vlad with Tamamo + Waver both with maxed skills is hands down the strongest comp in the game.
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>>150936332

Talking about Vanilla Saber here

But, regarding Lancer, both of them fill different niches

Vanilla Lancer is an AOE spammer and Alter focus on buster Crits

>>150936414

>Not min-maxing your servants

Git gud faggot
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So now that after Emiya we know that DW might change skills of servants in the buff quests, which skill do you think they might change for Siegfried?
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>>150936546
So that VTW Arts Spam comp scales with money?
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so GAed SAlter would be pretty good right?
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>>150936497
> thinks DW will do something to improve Servants

kek
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>>150936614
Fuck off this isn't some AIM chat
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>>150936521

>Berserker
> Damage is everything meme

Kek
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>>150936560
I min-max the ones I like and the good ones, arturia is neither of them.
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>>150936497
Would you really spend your Grails, mats, Fous and shitton of QP on silvers and bronzes just because they have slightly better NP modifier (with worse stats and skill kits)?
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>>150936084
>NP isn't everything.
We're talking about NPs now though.
>crits harder
>no crit absorb skills
>makes more stars
>lancers making stars, not proper star generators like Jack
>and has more team utility.
Charisma is as good as Discernment of the Poor if not better for the team.
>He's still the better 5* Lancer.
Him, Lancer Arthuria and Lancer Alter is about the same, few different gimmick but they're worth about the same.

>>150936163
>However his crits hit like a truck, even harder than Lancer Alter.
Maybe a little, but LA can crit harder because her Mana Burst is better, also an on demand guarantred crit buster is pretty good.

>>150936331
Best synergy.
All of them can reduce NP gauge, all of them are arts based, waver can buff up Vlad's attack, defense and fill NP gauge, Tamamo can heal him, fill his NP and boost his arts cards.
Also 2 2030 on Waver and Tamamo make Vlad an incredible crit machine.
Their main weakness is Vlad getting critted to death and AoE attacks.
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>>150936231
Just use this senpai

http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/servant_palingenesis.php#nav
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>>150936560
AoE spam is the most useless niche in the game though, since most mobs die to one NP and bosses have bloated HP. That's why vanilla Tituria is so bad.
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>it is a high hp servant without a taunt is good episode
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>>150936651
Damage is everything in this game, because DW are shit at balancing. With Berserkers you can kill all your enemies on the first turn or close to it so health is irrelevant. You don't have to like it but deal with it.
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How's da vinchi? Any good?
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>>150936365

The body skill is fine for a designated tank but Medb's HP is not that great for a tank

> Focus on HP is gettimg more and more redundant as time goes on.

What is Raid events?
What is defense buffs and stalling?

We had to do that with Gawain the first time we fought him, right?

So yeah, HP is getting more and more relevant
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This is the main issue from Grail Ascension. The weaker 5* servants have fallen even further behind the rest of the pack so the idea that DW is making every servant viable is complete horsehsit. The best are better, it's just that lower stars can now be a bit more viable, but they're still miles behind 5*s.
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>>150936231
Trying to decided still whom still.
Cu Alter is my best servant so I could make him better still, I also have Jeanne and she is a HP monster if I fully ascend her.
Not to mention I have Arthuria too which is my best all ronder

On the other hand I really would like to ascend Iskandar whom I like more as a character than the other characters.

Meanwhile I don't have any golden lancer so maxing just Cu is tempting.

Can't really make my mind at all
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>>150936874
>What is Raid events?
>What is defense buffs and stalling?
It's time to stop. Even the raid events showed stalling doesn't exist in this game.
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>>150936836
>raid events doesn't exist
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>>150936546
>tfw NP3 Vlad hits like a truck
And he's only level 80.
Also which suit is better for this team?
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>>150936663

>Trying to give opinion regarding a servant you'll never reach the full potential off

Git gud, scrub
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>>150936887
Meh I can make the borders of the servants I like golden, that's all I care about m8
>>150936939
Give some thought on not maxing and in just making servants you like at least lvl 90, it's what I'm doing and seems to give more mileage
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>>150936948
Stalling seemed pretty common for Ibaraki
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>>150936984
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>>150936698

>What is high level mobs
>Thinking Babylon's content will have normal leveled mobs
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>>150937054
>15 turn limit
>still need to actually deal damage to get any rewards
No.
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>>150936836

>I don't know what Raid events are

Kek
e
k

>First battle against Gawain in Camelot requiring stalling and BTFOing many of the "muh damage" players
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>>150935030
When will Sumanai get his time to shine?

>tfw 2 interludes and still no NP upgrade after 1 year
Being seigi no mikata is suffering
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>>150937009
Depends on what you need more.
I'd say if you have 100m QP, you're kinda safe.

>>150937096
>you can't deal damage when you're defending/stalling
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>>150937054
What's the fucking point of stalling if you're not dealing enough damage and getting every single drop from the stage?
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>>150937145
I think he needs everything else more than an NP upgrade
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>>150936874
Raid events only show how shitty HP focus servants are though. They still die horribly to crit unless Waver is present and get bent pver and fucked like the non high HPers if the enemy has a AoE like Raikou did.
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>>150936948

>I didn't played the Ibaraki event

Fuck off, newfag
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>>150937138
>needing health for either of those things

do you only have 3* or something? scat / orion double waver chewed up all the raids and orion double waver cleared up gawain.
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>>150936231
Rolling because I still can't pick which silver archer to GA.
1, 2: Robin
3, 4: KoGil
5, 6: Euryale
7, 8: Billy
9: reroll
0: GA another servant instead
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>>150937145
Really now that Emiya got a buff quest despite having 3 skills already the possibility of Siegfried getting buffed is higher. I'm kinda hoping they change golden rule to AoF with a taunt def up and np gain up, or give dragon slayer either a buster buff or the same dragon debuff george np does to the enemy. Interlude would be cool too but won't solve his problems
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>>150936669
You're in the wrong general if you think that the majority won't do just that.
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>>150937165
Yeah, shit tier damage that ends up wasting BP. If your argument for stalling meme is "but i did get one third into the reward ladder" then I got nothing.
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>>150936874
>Medb's HP is not that great for a tank
16k HP isn't "that great"? She has the highest HP out of every Rider class servant, by like 1000. With 1000 across 3 turns with a 5 turn cooldown, enemies will have to be doing 19k damage in 5 turns to Medb alone to kill her before she has a chance to get one NP off. Her HP is fine for a tank, her body skill is fine as it is. You can't really compare her stats directly to Knight classes as they tend to have higher stats in general - Medb has good NP gain and great crit weight to make up for that.

>What is Raid events?

Exactly my point. Enemies are doing more damage now, so an extra 2 - 4k HP isn't likely to even buy you one more turn unless you have a resistance. Even then, some untimely crits are you're done/
>What is defense buffs and stalling?
Typically always better done with casters, meaning any high-HP servants outside of that class are effectively redundant unless the enemy is a rider.

>We had to do that with Gawain the first time we fought him, right?
It was 5 turns. It was hard to not survive 5 turns given his damage output wasn't enough and he could only get off one or two shots of his NP. In the later fights, the focus was absolutely on quick, high damage - HP never came into it.
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>>150937145
Just change his first skill to Taunt.
Bonus point if it makes the enemies being treated as dragons.

>>150937220
>I have all the good servants and can clear it easily
So unlucky F2Ps doesn't exist?
Fuck off.
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>people had trouble with the random 100k hp mobs in Camelot
>I'm taking them down easily with Lancelot
lol
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>>150937327
He doesn't seem to be in the best of health
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>>150937138
>First battle against Gawain in Camelot requiring stalling
Only in your dreams.
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>>150937327
>insta dead after that hit
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>>150937167
You stall to survive till your skills and NP replenish and you can dump another load of damage on the raid boss. Less of an issue with Raikou but it was mandatory if you actually wanted to clear Ibaraki 3BP.

Or else what do you think Orion's and Waver's NP gauge down and the battlesuit's stun does if not stall for time?
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>>150937293
*8 turns, not 5 turns. All the same, point stands more or less as is.
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>>150937220

>whale noises

Fuck off, shill

>>150937394

>I didn't played Camelot yet
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all this gameplay bullshit
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Let our voyage together continue, my gorgeous Captain
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>>150937409
>>150937365
They hit Gilgamesh, they are pretty stupid Knights. He got focused at first but then left him alone. I swapped Scathach for Mashu the turn after.
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>>150937428
Very nicely moved your goalposts from high HP low attack servants to waver and stuns.
Bravo, bravo.
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>>150936597
Pretty much. No other comp scales as well

>>150936963
I like to just run plug suit, being able to swap another unit in is by far the most powerful master command.
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>>150937327
>only kills one knight
>almost dead
>being that late to camelot
>>150937489
This desu
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>>150937536
>only kills one knight
He killed the other Archer Knight too. Gilgamesh killed the last one.
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>>150937306
>>150937482
>y-you have to be a whale to have those 3 servants
>I couldn't roll them so obviously that means you are a whale

aha ok, only bought quartz twice and both times were the guaranteed 5* rolls.
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>>150937257
>Yeah, shit tier damage that ends up wasting BP.
So people should just stop playing the games because they can only stall?
A good player can stall while dealing at least 3/4 of the total HP, that's not a shit tier damage.
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>>150937165
Then QP is the way for me to go. Fucking skills keep eating my money and mats.
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Which servant is the most likely to have their nudes leaked on the internet? And don't give me Nero, Tamamo or Medb their nudes wouldn't be leaked they would willingly spread them over the internet. Hell they would probably be camwhores
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>>150937327
>people had trouble with the random 100k hp mobs in Camelot
Who?
I defeated most of them with Nursery Rhyme as my main damage dealer.
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>>150937586
Dude fucking Medb one shot one of the later knights with her NP, it's nothing to shout about clearing fodder.
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>>150937489
Rate-up soon

Maybe
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>>150937597
>y-you have to be a whale to have those 3 servants
>I couldn't roll them so obviously that means you are a whale
Stop projecting, I didn't even say anything about whales.
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>>150937614
Martha
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>>150937293

>16k HP isn't "that great"?

No, it falls short of being heavily HP oriented and lacks a good attack to go with

Her body skill can make up for it but her attack, NP and the rest of her skillet are jut problematic

>Exactly my point. Enemies are doing more damage now, so an extra 2 - 4k HP isn't likely to even buy you one more turn unless you have a resistance

Say that to how many times a inch of HP helped someone get through 3BP Ibaraki

>Typically always better done with casters, meaning any high-HP servants outside of that class are effectively redundant

A high HP is already a good defensive measure to begin with and in any case, defensive buffs are always good against enemies who can get through dodge and invicibility

>Gawain battle

I find it hard to think that DW will not pull anything like that again, especially with harder content coming in Babylon
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>not waiting for the grail gacha
?
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>>150937514
> only one person ever talks to me

Not the same guy, I don't give a shit about your HP arguments, retard.
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>>150937614
Rin would upload hers in a display of technological incompetence
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>>150937607
Jesus christ this damage control. First you stall memers talk about how great high hp heroes are
because of new harder content and raids, then one starts mumbling about stuns and np gauge down and the other about still being able to do a little bit at least.
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>>150937597

>I'm not a whale!
>I-I'm just lucky!

Then what the fuck is your point? Not everyone has Orion and Waver or whatever
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5min for new gacha
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>>150937914
1 more hour
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>>150937720
I hope their rate up is near. I need my Gawain and getting Tristan would be cool.
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>>150937843

Harder content is coming, this is undeniable

With harder content, you guys can expect:

1)High HP mobs
2)Different classes mobs
3)More "stalling" fights
4) More focus on defensive maneuvers rather than just blasting through everything with Berserkers
5)More annoying enemies and servants with special gimmicks

Nobody is saying HP is more important than ATK because it isn't however, HP will become more relevant in end game content
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>>150937843
Epic, simply epic.
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>>150937998
???
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I want to FUCK Kiyohime
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>>150938091
Concidering Camelot, I expect Babylon to be an endless wave of high-HP grailed gold Servants, 9 of them in every single fight. This is gonna be fun.
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>>150938216
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I love you Gilgamesh!
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>HP doesn't matter meme
I mean, sure servants with more HP tend to be lower in attack and making them less useful, but saying HP doesn't matter is too much.
How about you people play with Black Grail on your servants that can't heal themselves like Arjuna? Or image if everyone has only 1 HP, since HP doesn't matter anyway.

Stop saying stupid shit already, this keeps happening in /fgog/. You're all already sucks at playing the game anyway, stop saying more stupid shit.
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>1 hour left

PANIC
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>>150937794
>No, it falls short of being heavily HP oriented and lacks a good attack to go with
And how does it fall short exactly? She IS heavily NP orientated. That's part of the problem. Don't forget her niche is against Casters. Casters aren't known for big attack stats.

>Her body skill can make up for it but her attack, NP and the rest of her skillet are jut problematic

>Her body skill can make up for it but her attack, NP and the rest of her skillet are jut problematic

>Her body skill can make up for it but her attack, NP and the rest of her skillet are jut problematic

Attack is on the low side, absolutely. NP isn't that bad - 600% which will be 800% with an interlude, if it added a defence down debuff it would be fine. Against Male Enemies it's actually 750% already. Against Male Casters Medb is already quite good actually, and will be probably the best in the Anti-Male niche after buffs.

>Say that to how many times a inch of HP helped someone get through 3BP Ibaraki
Irrelevant. Generally it's not the difference at all, and people with high attacking teams with stuns did better than HP stall teams because Ibaraki one-shotted anything with her NP.

>A high HP is already a good defensive measure to begin with and in any case, defensive buffs are always good against enemies who can get through dodge and invicibility
That will only buy you a turn at most. Casters are best for stalls because double waver and NR can spam their NP and reduce NP gauge every time.

>I find it hard to think that DW will not pull anything like that again, especially with harder content coming in Babylon
As I said, HP was barely a factor in that first one. Stunning was. The game is heading in one very specific meta-heavy way - stun teams with one high damage output are eventually going to be the only way to win. HP has no impact in that.
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>>150938304
>imagine
Fuck.
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1 hour to 10 blank saint graphs + all limited 10% SSR rate gacha
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>>150935030
>Lu Bu
What the everloving fuck
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>>150937682
>NP
lol
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>>150938304
Saying HP doesn't matter isn;t the same as saying everyone should start with 1 HP. That's a strawman. It doesn't matter because the difference between high HP and low HP servants will always mean the low HP servants with high attack are better than the other lot because high attack is always better than high HP. The reason being is that a difference of 2000 attack is very noticeable, a difference of 2000 on the other hand is almost completely negligible.
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>>150937614
Medea Lily seems like the kind of girl who would naively believe in the old "they're just for me, I won't share them with anyone".
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>>150938304
>How about you people play with Black Grail on your servants that can't heal themselves like Arjuna?
Why would I do this, dumb stallposter?
>i need more hp instead of attack so i can use a CE that give me a tiny bit more np damage only compared to heavens feel
Listen to what you're saying. I got a brain tumour reading it.

No gold servant is going to have under 5k health. Fuck off with your retarded logic. Attack oriented servants are miles better than defense ones.
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>>150935030
add pirate sluts pls
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>>150937327
>Turn 4
>Kekalot almost dead
>2 more knights to kill
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>>150938527
Nice logic, that's the kind of answer I wanted from anons
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>not using the CE that reverses stats
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>>150937614
EMIYA
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>>150937614
Memeskandar would probably get into a literal dick measuring contest with someone.
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>>150938626
>siegfried would have second highest attack
I want it
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>>150938626
>I activate the spell card 'Sword and Shield'
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Doesn't mooks have pretty low death resist?
I mean,there bunch of 100k one,but aren't they pretty exposed to insta kill NP,like Nito or Void
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>>150938456
don't pursue him, you're gonna have a bad time if you do.
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>>150938720
What if I pursue his dick
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>>150938712
it might work if you get shitload of debuffs and hassan bond ce
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>>150938712
I abused this fact with Shiki and she would instant kill about 75% of the time.
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>>150938712
Somewhat low, if you compare it to bosses. It's about the only time instant kill is actually useful.
If it even triggers, anyway.
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>>150938626
That would be too broken. Imagine a Saber with 16k of attack.
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How's Gawain's NP gain?
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Tristan > Bedivere > Gawain > Lancelot > Agravain

Ranked from most fuckable to least fuckable.
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>>150938712
> Babylon is flooded with Level 70 enemies with 200K HP
> near impossible to beat down the mobs of them
> they have standard or low death resistance
> Void Shiki becomes best Servant in the game
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>>150938781
I agree with this list
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>>150938626
Jannus will take over the game then.
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>>150937614
You could probably convince Lily to share her nudes of you're nice enough
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>>150938781
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Would you say Da Vinci is a perfect servant for Black Grail? Since she can spam her NP like hell and has HP regen.

Sort of undecided if I should stick Heaven's Dress or Black Grail into her, since I am not that much of a fan of HP loosing demerit.
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>>150938526
>Saying HP doesn't matter isn;t the same as saying everyone should start with 1 HP.
It is though.
> It doesn't matter because the difference between high HP and low HP servants will always mean the low HP servants with high attack are better than the other lot because high attack is always better than high HP.
If you or other anons mean this, then say ATK worth more than HP.
If you said HP doesn't matter then there no difference in having 1 HP or 10.000HP because HP doesn't matter.
Saying HP doesn't matter is retarded because it implies that you will never take any damage, that can only be applied when you're farming, in raids or harder content events you eventually get hit a lot.

>>150938551
>Why would I do this, dumb stallposter?
Because you said HP doesn't matter, might as well for more damage.
>20%
>tiny bit
Epic.
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>>150938780
Check Cirno yourself.
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>>150938854
WAKE UP TRISTAN
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>>150937614
Female Gilgamesh
She's the type I imagine to literally film herself in order to touch herself to her own perfection
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this tentacle nigger just casually healed for 100k hp
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>>150938380

> She IS heavily NP orientated.

Exactly because of this, as of right now her NP isn't that good

>Attack is on the low side, absolutely. NP isn't that bad - 600% which will be 800% with an interlude

These numbers are typical for SP Buster NP, it's normal and yeah he will get better with an interlude, she needs it


>Against Male Casters Medb is already quite good actually, and will be probably the best in the Anti-Male niche after buffs.

There is a huge lack of high rarity male Casters so her niche kind of falls flat atm

>Medb is already quite good actually, and will be probably the best in the Anti-Male niche after buffs

She is among the worst 5* Rider by a longshot

> Irrelevant. Generally it's not the difference at all, and people with high attacking teams with stuns did better than HP stall teams because Ibaraki one-shotted anything with her NP.

Read >>150938091 and >>150938304

> That will only buy you a turn at most.

Just that can already be enough. In the Ibaraki event leveling up my Iri enabled me to perform better in the 3 BP because she didn't die as fast as she did before and could continue supporting the team


Casters are best for stalls because double waver and NR can spam their NP and reduce NP gauge every time.

Support skills aren't a Caster only feature to begin with

>As I said, HP was barely a factor in that first one. Stunning was.

Both of them are factors, if HP isn't a factor, good luck beating a raid event with a 1HP servant

> The game is heading in one very specific meta-heavy way - stun teams with one high damage output are eventually going to be the only way to win. HP has no impact in that.

There is no "meta" at the moment, you change your team according to the fight and the gimmick the enemy team presents. HP will be important because not everyone can stun lock enemies and high HP enables support oriented servants to remain alive for more time while properly supporting the team
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>>150938781
Bevivere = Tristan > Lancelot > Mode Red > Gawain
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>>150938759
Dunno,I steamrolled most of story maps mook with Void(MEoDP on 10) and it works alot of time.
Of course hard to trigger on midboss like Sphinx.
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>>150938924
I thought I was the only one who did that
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>>150938626
Would be neat
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>>150938928
Hit him with LB's NP.
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>>150937428
It doesn't matter. HP doesn't matter.
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>>150938793
>200k is a problem
Mana Inversion at lvl 6
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>>150938928
Bring debuffer like Jack.
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Why is Shizuki Morii so much better at designing knights in armor than literally every other artist who's designed knights in armor for anything related to TM?
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>>150939048
><fine>
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>>150938780
Two segments per turn, that damn cheater.
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>>150938901
>It is though.
Only if you're a pedantic piece of shit not able to see things in any way but the most literal possible interpretation.
>If you or other anons mean this, then say ATK worth more than HP.
>If you said HP doesn't matter then there no difference in having 1 HP or 10.000HP because HP doesn't matter.
>Saying HP doesn't matter is retarded because it implies that you will never take any damage, that can only be applied when you're farming, in raids or harder content events you eventually get hit a lot.
The only thing retarded are these statements here. HP is irrelevant in gameplay because high ATK is so much better. That isn't me saying we don't need HP at all, that's me saying the game is balanced so badly that DW literally have one of their two major stats completely blown out by the other. And apparently they are extremely dumb, because they still must not have realised this, by virtue of the fact we continue to receive HP-focused units without them taking any steps whatsoever to first address the disparity between HP and ATK. I want HP to be relevant more than anything, but it's not.
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>>150939048
That's pretty underwhelming actually
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>>150939048
Stop posting your autistic screen shots.
Jannu Alter can beat that damage easy and without taking 1.5x damage in return.

Berzerkers are a bad meme.
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>>150939170
Crit berserkers are at least.
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>>150938781
That depends

Gawain > Bedivere = Tristan > Dadcelot ≥ Keksalot > Agravain
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>Gawain can pull off better BBCs than Lancelot
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>>150937614
Jack would do it for mommy, I'm sure about that.

Shuten as well, but she is the same as Nero and Medb in which there would not be need to leak anything.
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>>150939132

>Only if you're a pedantic piece of shit not able to see things in any way but the most literal possible interpretation.

Sorry buddy but saying HP doesn't matter simply means HP doesn't matter which it isn't true, nobody here is saying HP >> ATK, people are saying that HP does matter, which is true

> HP is irrelevant in gameplay because high ATK is so much better

Here, shit like this is what makes you look dumb. Then might as well play with a 1000HP servant with 20000 attack right?

>that's me saying the game is balanced so badly that DW literally have one of their two major stats completely blown out by the other

Nobody is saying that HP is equal to ATK, ATK is clearly more relevant however people are disputing the fact that some idiots in this threat are saying HP is something completely and utterly useless

> And apparently they are extremely dumb, because they still must not have realised this, by virtue of the fact we continue to receive HP-focused units without them taking any steps whatsoever to first address the disparity between HP and ATK. I want HP to be relevant more than anything, but it's not.

This i just false, harder content will make HP more relevant than it was

Evidence is the fact that one won't be able to just steamroll everything with Berserker teams
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>>150938781
almost
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>>150938781
Gawain under the sun > Bedivere > Gawain without sun boost > Tristan > Lancelot > Agravain.
Mordred is in "will kill you before fucking you" tier.
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>>150939395
She sweats a lot and fucking reeks who would ever want to fuck Mordred?
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>>150939395
>implying
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>>150938943
>Exactly because of this, as of right now her NP isn't that good
I obviously meant HP.
>These numbers are typical for SP Buster NP, it's normal and yeah he will get better with an interlude, she needs it
So, uh, we agree? Cool.
>There is a huge lack of high rarity male Casters so her niche kind of falls flat atm
Not really. Out of 21 Caster Servants, 11 are Male, which means more than half of Caster Servants are in fact Male. That's not even accounting for non-servant Male Caster enemies, which are probably about even with Females.
>She is among the worst 5* Rider by a longshot
No doubt. I merely said in her niche, she is already good.

Again you fall back on this 1HP thing. No one is saying you shouldn't have any HP at all.

And there absolutely is a meta. Double Waver teams are enough to beat pretty much anything except all Rider-class mobs, and the game is not moving away from that, it's going all in. The entire Ibaraki event was so bad because it was solely reliant on metagaming - having the wrong 5*s meant it was impossible to beat 3BP in most cases.
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>>150938626
Of course,only for 3 turn
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>>150939370
George has better hair.
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SOON
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>>150939494
George's hair is only second to Siegfried's.
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>>150938928
>20 turns
caster control banzai
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>>150939458
Doesn't matter, 19k ATK Jeanne anyway, pulling that off alone makes it feels good.
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>>150939170
>JAlterfag
Reddit pls go don't make me nuke her.
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>>150939525
Can't believe I'm staying up when I know nothing will happen
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>>150939048
Man, the sad part about it is that NR can outdamage that shit really easy with her own buffs and she is a fucking little girl for fucks sake.
Stop doing this to yourself.
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>>150939048
>Lancelot the only one got hit

Do you equip Guda Poster Girl CE on him or something?
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>>150939487
I never got Shuten.
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>>150939543

Retard malemasterposter
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>>150931886

why do you think she feels like shit?
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>>150939094
Because for some reason they still haven't given Tosh the chance to do a character
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>>150939395
>buffed hot sweaty Gawain
Send help
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>>150939139
No, THIS is underwhelming. Have fun with those mooks only doing 18k a hit, memer.
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Mordred is a skank. All she could muster for you on Valentine's day was a partially eaten chocolate bar she was eating.
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>>150939612
He drew Arondight so his for someone's glory stopped working
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>>150939351
>Sorry buddy but saying HP doesn't matter simply means HP doesn't matter which it isn't true, nobody here is saying HP >> ATK, people are saying that HP does matter, which is true
But it doesn't matter. It is so far outclassed by ATK simply having over 11k is enough generally. Also, look up the word pedantry.
>Here, shit like this is what makes you look dumb. Then might as well play with a 1000HP servant with 20000 attack right?
Never said that. High attack in relation to 5* servants, compared to high HP in relation to 5* servants.
>Nobody is saying that HP is equal to ATK, ATK is clearly more relevant however people are disputing the fact that some idiots in this threat are saying HP is something completely and utterly useless
It might as well be (and no, that's not me saying we should just have 1HP, that's me saying the difference between high HP and low HP servants often does not even buy you an extra turn).
>This i just false, harder content will make HP more relevant than it was
>Evidence is the fact that one won't be able to just steamroll everything with Berserker teams
Because that's clearly very true for Camelot right? Most of the quests could be swept with Berserkers, only the boss fights couldn't. And harder content does not address the disparity between HP and ATK either.
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>>150939672
>implying I use zerkers
Sorry m8 I know how to properly build a team
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>>150939663
This guy is basically the Artoria of that series though
His food is so perfect he literally does not have room to suit it to your tastes
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>>150939732
i-indirect kissu?
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>>150935030
>Ryougi Shiki now has one of the strongest Noble Phantasms in the game
Glorious. You deserve my grails, my beautiful shinigami.
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>>150939759
She just got hungry on the way to give it to you okay.
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>>150939612
E Luck but Mashu always ends up saving him

>>150939582
>less damage
>no 1.5 modifier
>damage up has the same %
Uh-huh, and Mata Hari can do 40k a hit too with no buffs
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>>150939825
Ryougi is kind of an autist isn't she? Like, legitimately, she's incredibly shit at interacting with people.
>all "main" heroines in TM have massive issues
>all MCs also have massive issues (Kokutou isn't MC of KnK imo)
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>>150939672
>that archaic shitposting
It has been so long since that. The game has change a lot since then.
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>>150939543
>have double Waver
>Tamamo
Why you are doing this to yourself
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>Get Da Vinci
>Put Black Grail on her
>Put her in a Party with Edison
>Use Edison's skill plus with 3NP+ for max overcharge
>26k to each QP door

Holy shit her NP is trash.
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>>150939454

>I obviously meant HP.

How am I supposed to know when you commit a typo?

> So, uh, we agree? Cool.

Just saying that they are nothing phenomenal

>Not really. Out of 21 Caster Servants, 11 are Male, which means more than half of Caster Servants are in fact Male. That's not even accounting for non-servant Male Caster enemies, which are probably about even with Females.

I was talking about high rarity Casters, Most male casters are silvers and bronze servants

>Again you fall back on this 1HP thing. No one is saying you shouldn't have any HP at all.

You people keep parroting that HP is irrelevant tough? Make up your minds then


In the same way nobody is saying that HP>>ATK, people are only saying that HP isn't useless as everyone says it is

>And there absolutely is a meta

No, the meta is "build your team regarding the situation"

>Double Waver teams are enough to beat pretty much anything except all Rider-class mobs, and the game is not moving away from that, it's going all in.

Not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to have a double Waver together with a good AOE or ST NP spammer, the meta for most players is to build teams according to each fight


> The entire Ibaraki event was so bad because it was solely reliant on metagaming - having the wrong 5*s meant it was impossible to beat 3BP in most cases.

You could beat the 3BP by stalling, which is part of my point

High HP servants aren't useless, specially when they are more support oriented
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>>150939940
But Herackek is still the same. So yeah, have fun with those shitty 18k. Oh that Herc had LOZ/Illya, so even less with Bond CE.
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>>150939938
Autism leads to supreme power in Type-Moon.
The less "self" you have the closer you are to the void = the root = the almighty source of all.
You have to disintegrate your "self" into a base concept to reach a Reality Marble which normally takes hundreds of years of pseudo-enlightenment which is why only ancient vampires normally have them.
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>>150939825
>shinigami
>doesn't kill more than a few faggots
You're a bit fast
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>>150939858
>no 1.5 modifier
Are you dumb?
She would have a 2.0 because class advantage there and receive 4 times less damage than any berserker.
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>>150939494
Saints are not for lewd, though.

>>150939539
Siegfried's hair is an uncombed mess. He probably doesn't even use conditioner. It looks like birds could be nesting on his head.
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Wish I decided to level this CE earlier. 14 super success in a fucking row. Only 20 minutes left so I doubt I can get it past level 40
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>>150940020
>Oh that Herc had LOZ/Illya

How do you equip 2 CE though
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>>150939351
Past 10k HP you don't need anymore HP. It's utterly irrelevant to have 15k or more. And all 5* have more than 10k HP anyway. As proof, all of the Servants that have more than 13k attack are widely considered the best ones in the game while all the ones with more than 14k HP are bad. It's as simple as that, ATK is the only stat that matters for a 5*.
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>>150940047
MEoDP holder = Shinigami
It's a pet name that both Ryougi and Tohno get
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>>150940020
>not even max level
>bravery not even past 4
You're really cherrypicking as hard as you can right now
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>Neptune could lift Atlantis with a grail boost if it wasn't for CG Drake
>Gilles created Jeanne Alter and a whole army with it
>Lev ressurected all Roman emperors with it and gave them an army
>Camelot got huge buffs
>Chaldea gets 2 levels
Sabotage, I tell you.
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>>150940047
A God of Death simply needs power over it, they don't need to apply that power. Ryougi can theoretically kill anything that has death as an available option.
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>>150936001
His 1600% NP modifier there is 1200% at NP 5 + bonus from 300% overcharge

>>150935973
Karna is amazing against divine due to his nice bonus against them, he can outdamage Titturia significantly, but we don't fight divine enemies so often, therefore his bonus aren't so reliable.

>>150936416
Kintoki already has NP upgrade. Also, Eu's bonus is based on overcharge, not NP level.
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>>150940025
That actually makes sense
>>150940071
Siegfried hair is pretty good naturally he just doesn't comb or brush it because he is kinda autistic and needs help from his master or Bryn
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>>150940071
Best CE
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>>150939554
>Saying that Jeanne Alter can outdamage Lancelot without taking increased damage is now Reddit
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>>150940179
explain this CE though
how is it even related
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>>150940135
>Ryougi can theoretically kill anything that has death as an available option.

and if it doesn't she just kill the concept that holds this.
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>>150940135
Can she kill the saberface gene/disease?
>>150940215
George says in his myroom lines he likes photography those are pictures he took traveling with us. I think in the dango event he also mentions his interest in it
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>>150940215
Saint George got a camera and he loves using it. It's basically his favorite thing of the modern era. Read his My Room dialogue.
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knew melvin would bait you retards again, good job.
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>>150940215
George has taken a liking to photography, mentioned like ten years ago in CM4.
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>>150940071
>Siegfried's hair is an uncombed mess
It called dragonic hair
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>>150940260
>Can she kill the saberface gene/disease?
>implying that will ever die out
Listen, it overcame the power of an Archetype. It's higher tier than ORT.
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>>150939554
Nuke with? your shitposting?
nobody cares about what you say, you're irrelevant with your memes and for most of it you're filtered anyway.
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>>150940106
He had one of those but I don't remember which, that shit happened like a year ago.

>>150940115
>not even max level
He was missing 10 levels and was max fou.

>bravery not even past 4
And 10 is totally going to make him reach 70k :^)
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>>150940020
Even less in one attack with Bond CE but so he can do three or four turns more of damage.

Also
>My crit with three buffs is better than your base

I was shocked by this. Who would have thought a max level buffed Fou'd Grail Ascended Command Seal Powered Mud Boosted Overloaded NP servant would beat out a pair of level 5 unfamous toaster wielding servants on 56k modems?
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>>150940179
Kudos to the anon who got the Top Saint GA'd
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>>150940284
I want a hairjob from him.
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>>150940284
is that why he has the weird black coloring at the tip of his Hair?
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>>150940146
>Also, Eu's bonus is based on overcharge, not NP level
Her overcharge only increase chance to charm not damage to male which is based on NP lvl.
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>there are people here right now that don't use double GA waver and a crit servant to kill everything in one go
Just fuck off
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>>150940260
>>150940262
>>150940282
that's pretty cute, I like it.
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>>150939738

>But it doesn't matter. It is so far outclassed by ATK simply having over 11k is enough generally
Not true

>Never said that. High attack in relation to 5* servants, compared to high HP in relation to 5* servants.
Then be more clear, you just said HP was irrelevant and that's it. I fully agree that ATK >> HP but if you have a good support oriented servant, you'd want for their HP to be higher so they can stay around for longer don't you?

>It might as well be
>being this retarded

>and no, that's not me saying we should just have 1HP, that's me saying the difference between high HP and low HP servants often does not even buy you an extra turn)

It buys though? Are you retarded? I was only able to properly stall 3BP Ibaraki at first after I leveled my Iri and she could tay around for a longer time

>Because that's clearly very true for Camelot right?

Yes? Camelot was harder and we had our first pure stalling fight

>Most of the quests could be swept with Berserkers, only the boss fights couldn't.

The nodes frequently had powerful non ervant bosses and enemies that were just hard to kill and would destroy a pure berseker team

It was better to use a class triangle strategy

>And harder content does not address the disparity between HP and ATK either.

Never said it did though? I'm not saying harder content will make HP>>ATK, I'm just saying it will make HP more relevant
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>>150940185
>limited 5* can outdamage Lancelot by a low margin
The only way she gets much higher numbers is using her Buster Up, with her regular buffs she hits around the same.
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>>150940007
>How am I supposed to know when you commit a typo?
Context of the conversation?
>Just saying that they are nothing phenomenal
Which I didn't claim. I just said it wasn't particularly "problematic".
>I was talking about high rarity Casters, Most male casters are silvers and bronze servants
What does that have to do with anything though? Now with Grail Ascension, you can go against just about any servant and they'll all be gold at this point. Also, Solomon.
>You people keep parroting that HP is irrelevant tough? Make up your minds then
>In the same way nobody is saying that HP>>ATK, people are only saying that HP isn't useless as everyone says it is
It's useless in that HP-focused servants tend to be the worst amongst their peers, whereas ATK focused and moderate Servants are mid to high tier. It's all in relation to general stats, not that it's completely and utterly useless altogether.
>No, the meta is "build your team regarding the situation"
Why does Double Waver beat the majority of the game content then?
>Not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to have a double Waver together with a good AOE or ST NP spammer, the meta for most players is to build teams according to each fight
Just like everyone was not fortunate enough to have the right 5*s in the Ibaraki event - DW didn't really care. The game is very lazily designed, the metagame doesn't have to be what everyone uses, just the optimal way to play.
>You could beat the 3BP by stalling, which is part of my point
Barely, and often times not doing enough damage to justify running 3BP over 2BP.
>High HP servants aren't useless, specially when they are more support oriented
Except high ATK servants are almost always better, and the only time you would even consider having a high HP servant in your support slot is if you already have high ATK servants in your main party. Even then, that's not always the case.
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>>150940359
Why would you ever do that? There's little point in going over 90 until Grails become more common, if that ever happens.
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>>150940179
I like Teach's CE.
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>>150940146
>Kintoki already has NP upgrade. Also, Eu's bonus is based on overcharge, not NP level.
No he doesn't, he got an interlude but no NP upgrade
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EXTRA COLLAB
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>>150940448
>why would you upgrade your favorites in this waifu simulator
>>
What if you could use grail to instantly max level a single CE
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>>150940419
>Skills make it unfair
>Lancelot is now either the same or wretched garbage compared to other Berserkers
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>>150940071
I won't lewd male George. Female George on the other hand
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So most likely thing is LArtoria rate up for a week?
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>>150939048
>those HP
How many command spells did you use to keep him alive?
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>>150940359
Until I can make all of my supports 90 sadly George-san will stay in 90 with his friend Siegfired
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>>150940306
>He was missing 10 levels

It's not like Herk is a reverse S and gain tons of stats in his last 10 levels right ?
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>>150940531
>LArtoria
Fuck off reddit
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>>150940537
All three.
That screenshot is after the 2nd quartz resurrection.
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>>150940419
>I can use skills on Lancelot but you can't on Jeanne
>she hits equally hard or harder with a neutral damage output against anything other than rulers unlike Lancelot who has 1,5 against everything
I can't tell if you're retarded or just hard core autistic about a mediocre unit
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>>150940519
George should have been the rider instead of Achilles in apo. Achilles is just a boring Cuchumeme
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10 minutes to swimsuits! How are you rolling for? I'm rolling for Mary!
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>>150940419
>She can only hits harder if she uses her skills.
>Lancelot doees the same damage if he uses his skill and Jeanne doesn't

What kind of stupid argument is this ?
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>>150940146
I thought Kintoki's Interlude was quartz and the NP interlude was data from last year like the old Waver and Gilgamesh np interlude
Oh, and about Eu there's pic related
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>Raikou can crit for 430k consistently
>Lancelot brags about 73k crits
You know you're shit when you have to post on fgog about being good instead of people just naturally knowing you are
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>>150940531
Most likely thing is nothing because DW are lazy Jews. Now that Pokemon GO is getting a more widespread launch they're fucked if they don't put in more effort, but they're too stupid to realize that.
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10 minutes for free 5*
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>>150940302
Nah my favorite girl will just eat her.

>filtered
Hi tumblr
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>>150940495
>max level mastered Formalcraft
Jeanne rises.
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WOW
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10 minutes until ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
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>>150940713
That just feels like a waste.
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>>150940713
Do it faggot, and post a webm.
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>>150940695
nice meme
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>>150940686
Why would DW ever care about competing against Pokemon GO? They're completely different markets, unless you want to fuck a Nidoqueen.
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>>150940713
(you) won't do it fag
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Quick, odds do a single, evens not
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>>150940741
I don't really get why people expect anything anyways.
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>>150940741
Camelot rate-up is gonna happen
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>>150940389
>>150940486
>>150940676
Oh well, that means Eu and Lu Bu just outdamage the other even further.
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>>150940785
Do paid gacha.
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>>150940773
>not wanting to fuck Gardevoir
Gay
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7 mins till new master missions
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>>150940731
Also Jesus Christ Lancelot can you at least live long enough for me to shitpost.
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>>150940731
I-It's not f-fair. Y-you didn't t-take a-at least 3 Twice CE's a-and 2 additional star providers
DELET THIS
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>>150940518
You use the Buster Up with NP.

>>150940609
>Using Buster Up without NP
Confirmed retard

>>150940654
>using Buster Up and no NP
Fuck it the reddit JAlterfags have said enough, I'm going to nuke her now.
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>>150940731
To be fair, Lancelot is fucked by his attribute, and the attribute of the hands, he hits for like 0.8 or 0.9 of what he normaly does.

He is still useless in any given situation and there are much better option if you cant a crit user.
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>>150940448
See >>150940493

If you take this game seriously, you need to re-evaluate your life
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Servant Kuzuki when?
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HANDS
A
N
D
S
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>>150940785
>Clock tower
As expected
>>150940829
Make me
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News in 5 minutes
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>>150940713
>This mad to be filtered
insects should know their place.
Stay quiet.
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>>150940892
Kuzuki Medea is already in the game.
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>>150940898
Hands on suicide watch
a
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d
s
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>>150940773
GO is going to steal all the nip whales away. There's a reason why all the other mobages have been generous lately, they were afraid of GO and wanted to keep their players. DW was probably the only dev arrogant enough to not see it coming.
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>>150940872
>You use the Buster Up with NP.

Confirmed for never using Jeanne Alter.
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>>150940404
>Not true
Simply saying it's not true doesn't make it not true.
>Then be more clear, you just said HP was irrelevant and that's it. I fully agree that ATK >> HP but if you have a good support oriented servant, you'd want for their HP to be higher so they can stay around for longer don't you?
But that's the point. Enemies now can easily do over 5k of damage in a turn to your servants, so they don't even necessarily get to stay around longer.
>It buys though? Are you retarded? I was only able to properly stall 3BP Ibaraki at first after I leveled my Iri and she could tay around for a longer time
Are you? When I ran my team of Sabers against Lancer Artoria, the only one who survived was Mordred. From full health, she had 1.5k left. Lancer Artoria then finished her off with her two more attacks. Mordred didn't get a single turn extra despite having at least 3k more HP than Rama. What's the point in being able to survive a noble phantasm with your HP if you don't even get an extra turn out of it?
>Yes? Camelot was harder and we had our first pure stalling fight
It was 5 turns man. You hardly had to set up a stall team to survive for 5 turns.
>The nodes frequently had powerful non ervant bosses and enemies that were just hard to kill and would destroy a pure berseker team
>It was better to use a class triangle strategy
A solely Berserker team amybe, but one Berserker could take out most of those powerful non-servant or boss enemies in one turn.
>Never said it did though? I'm not saying harder content will make HP>>ATK, I'm just saying it will make HP more relevant
And if it doesn't address the disparity and make both stats of equal importance, what's the point?
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>>150940887
Nothing wrong with leveling George. Just shouldn't go over 90 at this point.
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swimsuit event when
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>>150940842
Honestly thats just a waste of time.
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>>150940872
>I-I'm not retarded, y-you are!
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>>150940898
Is that first Cu Alter skill worth leveling?
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>>150940347
Get in line faggot
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So much autism
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I want to eat dangos
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>>150940748
>he thinks I need the reddit Servant when I have Lancelot
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>>150940971
Would anyone who spends thousands of dollars on waifus be the type of person to walk around Tokyo for hours and socially interact with people?
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>>150940872
>You can kill everything with Jeanne boosted crit
>N-no ! This skill is f-for NP only !
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>>150940773
Both are technically mobage games though, meaning they share a market.
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>>150940971
They already outperformed it with the Camelot release
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>>150941046
>Altera made it though
I don't know what it is but there's something incredibly cute about this autistic murderbot talking about herself in 3rd person
>>
2 minutes till nothing
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>>150940992
Technically,sure,but if he is his favorite,nothing wrong to go past 90.
Hell some guy even maxed Sanson to 100 just because
>>
>DANGO EVENT SOON
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>>150940857
how are you supposed to get him through last wave when he dies in 3 hits?
The guy needs 1 waver and 1 NP CE to do something, that's annoying.
too bad I got him NP4 though
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FREE 5* CONFIRMED
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>>150941172
Is there something to expect?
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>>150940952
1 week of nothing confirmed
>>
>no free 6*
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>>150940424
>Context of the conversation?
In this case, there was just no way to see that, after all, many servants can be said to be NP oriented and Medb can be said to be one of those
>Which I didn't claim. I just said it wasn't particularly "problematic".
It is problematic right now because she ha no NP interlude and no way to buff her NP outside a shitty charisma buff
>What does that have to do with anything though? Now with Grail Ascension, you can go against just about any servant and they'll all be gold at this point. Also, Solomon.
Their stats will still be quite lacking compared to true golds but good point about Solomon
>It's useless in that HP-focused servants tend to be the worst amongst their peers
Simply false, if you have a support oriented servant, you'd want their HP to be as high as it can so they can survive and spam their skills/NP more
Arturia for example, is a good attack support oriented servant and still deals quite a bit of damage, being capable of outperform even Altera right now
>It's all in relation to general stats, not that it's completely and utterly useless altogether.
I repeat, nobody is saying HP>>ATK, people are aying that HP isn't as useless everyone says it is, it's obvious that more 2000HP is better than just 125 ATK
>Why does Double Waver beat the majority of the game content then?
The "Building your team regarding the situation" meta can easily beat it and doesn't have the weakness of having to change when faced with Rider centered mobs and Rider bosses
>Just like everyone was not fortunate enough to have the right 5*s in the Ibaraki event - DW didn't really care
You didn't needed to beat Ibaraki, you could just stall it
>Barely
Says you, I always managed to stall
>and often times not doing enough damage to justify running 3BP over 2BP.
As long as you did more than 1m damage it was better
>Except high ATK servants are almost always better
Not, if you need support
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>>150941210
To be fair, I wouldn't mind dangos since it would give me a chance to farm up some nuts.
>>
YES, SWIMSUIT GUYS
>>
HOLY SHIT CHECK YOUR SUMANAIS
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Just rolled Tristan in the Camelot rate-up! Holy shit!
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>no knight gacha

Fuck you DW
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>>150941264
shitposting

>>150941328
>>150941372
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>>150930303
Avenger Cain fucking when?
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ITS UP
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>>150940857
Because Alter has multiple hits it's harder to get a shot of her damage, but the hand had 28,690 hp and was left with 12,863. End result is 15,827 for her hitting on a third round buster.

She also easily fucking lived through all ten turns while I was looking for the right chance to get her numbers, while Lancelot died at the start of the second wave.
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Which servant would you most like to see get new animations?
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>>150941421
Cain is Grand Assassin, King Hassasn
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look at this event gacha
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>sudden death CE that boosts damage when you have low HP
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I already miss the half ap hands
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>>150941442
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The Mad King looks swanky in gold!
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>>150941087
>socially interact with people
There is no need to do that in japan.
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>>150941087
Japanese neckbeards love running around for the right incentive. There was that Love Plus dating sim feature that gave extra lines and scenes if you took your digital waifu to certain real world locations. It was a hit.

>>150941146
That was before GO released in even more countries. FGO has no chance now. They had their shot with the anniversary but blew it with fiascos like Grail Ascension and no change to their shit rates, I've never seen a mobage company mess up so badly before.
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is it fucking nothing?
>>
>week of nothing
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>>150935030
Why Tesla buff is not counted? It's true that is RNG but he has a 30% NP Damage and the NP Overcharge modifier against Sky or Earth attributes.
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>>150941484
Cu Chulainn. His animations are completely lackluster compared to how his fighting is actually described in the VN. Meanwhile Meme Servant gets his fancy lancing moves.
>>
http://news.fate-go.jp/2015/wy1b3a/
HOLY SHIT
>>
nothing
>>
>4*-5* Berserkers can easily reach over 14000 attack with ease now
>Lancelot still shit
How the fuck is this even possible?
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>>150941514
>he fell for the Moon Loon meme
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>>150941615
>2015

lmbfao (you)
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>>150941484
Siegfried
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>>150941491
>Liz rateup
FUCK YES
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>>150941572
month*
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>the anniversary event just ends with nothing in between the swimsuit event and half AP dailies
Wow. DW does it again.

At least I spent my AP and I have yet to finish Camelot.
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Can't wait for maintenance
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>>150941210
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>>150941625
>shit NP gen
>shit NP
>requires a team of 3 top tier CE's and 2 other servants/tanks to keep him alive
>the payoff is meh in the end anyway
You tell me
>>
>>150941463
>>150940857
>No fous
>JAlterfag using LOZ
>no Buster Chain for Lancelot but you got one for JAlter
You made Lancelot lose several modifiers to make your shit girl look good.

lol at you thinking anyone will believe your biased "test".
>>
NO SWIMSUITS

POOL'S CLOSED
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>>150941302
>In this case, there was just no way to see that, after all, many servants can be said to be NP oriented and Medb can be said to be one of those
Given that the topic was originally about HP, but considering it has meandered I suppose it's not unreasonable to lose track.
>It is problematic right now because she ha no NP interlude and no way to buff her NP outside a shitty charisma buff
Eh, it's not that bad.
>Their stats will still be quite lacking compared to true golds but good point about Solomon
We're talking about enemy servants though remember, so the stats aren't actually that important because their HP are usually inflated and I imagine other stats are changed.
>Simply false, if you have a support oriented servant, you'd want their HP to be as high as it can so they can survive and spam their skills/NP more
Arturia for example, is a good attack support oriented servant and still deals quite a bit of damage, being capable of outperform even Altera right now
They do though. Just look - servants with 13k ATK at 90 and over are generally the best, Servants with 15k HP and over tend to be the worst. Arturia is even outdone by her 4* Alter counterpart for crying out loud!
>I repeat, nobody is saying HP>>ATK, people are aying that HP isn't as useless everyone says it is, it's obvious that more 2000HP is better than just 125 ATK
But it's not. That's my point. In application, the better attack is always more useful.
>The "Building your team regarding the situation" meta can easily beat it and doesn't have the weakness of having to change when faced with Rider centered mobs and Rider bosses
No, it can't and yes, that's one class type out of 7. Plus 3 more.
>You didn't needed to beat Ibaraki, you could just stall it
You did if you wanted a good chance of clearing the damage ladder.
>Says you, I always managed to stall
Good for you.
>As long as you did more than 1m damage it was better
And yet you needed to be doing at least 3M generally.
>>
It's finally over. I'm glad to still be a f2p fag.
>>
>>150940991
>Simply saying it's not true doesn't make it not true.
Saying it's not true won't make it not true
>But that's the point. Enemies now can easily do over 5k of damage in a turn to your servants, so they don't even necessarily get to stay around longer.
They will if they have more HP and good support skills
>Are you? When I ran my team of Sabers against Lancer Artoria
Kek, build your team according the situation. You need a good defense support (Mahu & Waver is a good one) with huge single attack power plus a kaleido Mordred if you have her.
>It was 5 turns man. You hardly had to set up a stall team to survive for 5 turns.
Are you implying DW won't make harder stalling fights in babylon? Just watch
>A solely Berserker team amybe, but one Berserker could take out most of those powerful non-servant or boss enemies in one turn.
Can guarantee that's not the case, I had Kintoki and he couldn't do it when the boss enemy had more than 100HP, I had to rely more on class triangle
>And if it doesn't address the disparity and make both stats of equal importance, what's the point?
The point is that I'm not saying that HP will be equal to ATK, what I'm saying is that it will be more relevant and important than it was before
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>>150941615
Based Gil had the best event.
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>>150941815
Didn't the scan say they were going to announce the details on the 10th?
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>>150941762
Wrong as always my friend.
>>
Crazy theory, but what if Roman the character who inspired Mobius from The Physicists?
>No records because he is a servant
>Has a super powerful ace he refuses to use because is a big danger
>Idolizes King Solomon
>Suspicious as fuck, but actually a good guy at the bottom
>>
Archer day is here.

I'm going to rape Gilgamesh.
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>>150941840
I hope we'll get a paid gacha with limiteds one day.

I'd break f2p for that.
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>>150941840
same here anon.

I'm not sure if I would have resisted if they added Alter Jannu, but I'm glad they didn't
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>>150941759
Sad thing is that even in that setup Herc would still work better thanks to Bravery plus his Crit Up..
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Well time to sleep
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So what are the new master quests this week?
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>>150941484
Fuck caster animations.
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>>150941980
5 beast type mobs
5 golems
15 wyverns
15 archers
15 rider
15 berserker
complete all
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>>150941980
5 beasts
8 golems
15 wyverns
15 archer class
15 rider class
15 berserker class
clear all missions
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>>150941953
>>150941759
>>150941625
>10 weight
Yeah he will crit for sure :^)

Also nice samefagging
>>
>need 2 blue stones to level up Raiko skill

W-Where is the easiest place?
>>
So.... nothing. Fuck. I'm gonna got bulge Gilgamesh with my Scathach and two Cus.
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>>150941867
>Saying it's not true won't make it not true
Saying it's not not true won't make it not true.
>They will if they have more HP and good support skills
Not always.
>Kek, build your team according the situation. You need a good defense support (Mahu & Waver is a good one) with huge single attack power plus a kaleido Mordred if you have her.
Well done on missing the point entirely.
>Are you implying DW won't make harder stalling fights in babylon? Just watch
I never said that.
>Can guarantee that's not the case, I had Kintoki and he couldn't do it when the boss enemy had more than 100HP, I had to rely more on class triangle
Wow, your Kintoki must be shit.
The point is that I'm not saying that HP will be equal to ATK, what I'm saying is that it will be more relevant and important than it was before
Not really.
>>
Wow DW literally let the anniversary roll over into literally nothing. Fucking retards.
>>
>>150941631
I like my punch-happy Mad King!
>>
>>150942091
Berserker 10 AP.
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>>150942154
I want to see how he eats a Level 80 Gae Bolg.
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>>150941463
>>150941893
>level 100 vs lvl 80
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
You think nobody would notice, you stupid fuck?
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>they will announce Swimsuits on wednesday

I hope you're ready for two weeks of nothing.
>>
>>150941759
>m-muh 18k are totally b-better than your 70k
Are you really this delusional?
>>
Is this not going to stop, like, ever? It hurts to see the whole universe hating your favorite because of a few douchebags.

Are you guys not tired?
>>
>>150942262
Swimsuits event is already on, you just have to update your game
>>
>>150942203
But I want to level it up as soon as possible
>>
>>150942262
I'm actually ready for two weeks of nothing because I have IRL things to do and Camelot still not finished.
>>
>>150942262
Fuck no. These threads were like one of the inner circles of hell back during the last stretch of Accel Zero and into Rashomon.
>>
>>150942262
There were some cases where the announcement and events happened on the same day, although those cases tended to have a vague message like level your sabers about a week ahead of time.
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>>150928595
>EMIYA in the main party
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>>150942262
More like they'll tease Swimsuits on Wednesday and announce it the Monday after the next with an undefined start date which will probably be the end of the month. This is post Accel Zero all over again.

DW never learns
>>
Time to do Camelot free quests and servant improvement.
>>
>>150940647
Apo is about two young saints.
It would be awkward if there was another saint who was more famous and strong.
>>
>>150942341
>it hurts to see retards hate your favorite because they are insecure
Yes, nice falseflagging. You are better "hating" him too if you are such a shit fan.
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>>150940842
Visit the site below to find out the last mission:
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/master_mission.php#nav
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>>150941680
Has Liz ever been in a rateup?
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>>150942341
It's hard to love Lancelot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JJ-RSyhLpo
>>
Time for those interludes of all the nice new servants you rolled
>>
>>150942340
>new cheatapk is out so I can once again inflate the numbers into bullshit easily
Classic
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They at least could have made 1/2 Ap for story missions and free missions but it is just nothing. Absolutely nothing
>>
>>150942410
Rashomon didn't improve them either.
>>
>>150942471
During every single gold lancer rateup.
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>>150941934
Wouldn't be surprised. I am of the opinion that he is holding secrets but him being a bad guy is a red herring.
After all he appears in a bunch of CEs with Fou and in a bunch of interludes which are supposed to fit in any time of the plot.
>>
>>150942417
Between his strengthening and grail ascension, EMIYA is totally viable now if you don't have Gilgamesh or Arjuna (or don't like them).
His weakest attribute by far was the fact that his buff didn't hit his NP, and now it does, and better than ever.
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>having to burn 4* EXP card because no space and nothing to use then on
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>>150941835
> I suppose it's not unreasonable to lose track.
Whatever, it' irrelevant now
>Eh, it's not that bad.
But it can be considered problematic for her, that's my point
>We're talking about enemy servants
DW always downgrades enemy servants regarding their rarity though, for example, a servant boss of a high level node will always be most likely a gold one and I doubt GA will be implemented on enemy servants
>They do though. Just look - servants with 13k ATK at 90 and over are generally the best, Servants with 15k HP and over tend to be the worst. Arturia is even outdone by her 4* Alter counterpart for crying out loud!
This meme again...Alter's NP is better than hers but Alter is worse in asolutely everything else, and Arturia's NP doesn't sucks, it beats Altera's even, a 5* servant with a higher attack. Arturia is a better attack/support servant in general
>But it's not. That's my point. In application, the better attack is always more useful.
And I'm not questioning that, I'm just saying that ATK isn't everything or the most important thing if you are talking about support oriented servants
>No, it can't
Why?This meta works by you literary building your team for a specific fight, why wouldn't it work?
>and yes, that's one class type out of 7. Plus 3 more
It gets all of the Waver meta plus the one that Waver meta isn't able to get therefore it' better than the double Waver meta
>You did if you wanted a good chance of clearing the damage ladder.
I cleared the damage ladder and only killed Ibaraki thrice though once RNG was on my side
>Good for you.
And for many other people
>And yet you needed to be doing at least 3M generally.
You're confusing Ibaraki with Onigashima. 2BP Ibaraki had 1m of HP, you just neeeded to do more than 1.5M for each 3BP to be better than 2BP
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>>150942510
That's what I'm going to do. I've been putting off servant strengthening because of half ap.
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>>150941514
Why the fuck Ike from Fire emblem is in fate?
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>>150942456
nobody hates on him.
in fact, nobody gives a shit about lancecuck.
He is only talked because you two autists, you and JETS, shitpost.
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>>150942234
See >>150940306
Ten levels doesn't make much of a difference as long as they're max fou'd. You'd probably be better off staying out of this conversation if you don't know that much :)
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>>150942416
> level your sabers
I am the only guy who misses Saber Wars sort of events? I liked the idea of picking a team of a sole class, it was the last time I genuinely used Sumanai and Lily
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>>150942507
He's a victim of love, anon
Be wise like Gawain, and forgive him
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>>150942574
The fact that he's still QAAAB means that his UBW will never be good beyond the one single turn where you buff it, since every NP you have after will still not be able to BBC nor will your buff be off cooldown by the time it's ready
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>>150942471
Skimmed through the old news and didn't see one
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>>150942562
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>>150942553
Gotta have moments of nothing to make celebrations and events feel more special in comparison.
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>>150942672
He's a victim of his own stupidity, and not even close to the only victim of it.
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Has Lancelot ever been recording hitting over 150k on a crit?
100k for that matter?
Until I see this then fuck of fun melvin
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You think they could put together even just a shitty rate up for a week, but literally nothing?
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>>150942507
Round Table songs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feLOWY_u47Y
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>>150942703
Darius with the spooky Halloween servants is still hilarious
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>>150942692
At only a 5 turn cooldown it is entirely viable that you will cool it down by the next time you have it charged.
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>>150942672
He also loved Arthur. That didn't stop him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI_9Qvq1HgM

The Eggplant is in the right.
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Oh shit I just got Rider Mordred in the swimsuit gacha
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>>150942648
>10
This is 20 :^)
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>>150942886
She was a rider though !??
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>>150942175

>Being a parrot
Grow up

>Not always.

Of course, RNG can always fuck you over but more HP brings more reliability

>Well done on missing the point entirely.

I didn't missed any point, you got BTFO because you fought Tituria with the wrong team, of course the HP wasn't useful just as the attack couldn't finish the job

>I never said that.

Then you agree with my point

>Wow, your Kintoki must be shit.

Lv90- and all skills maxed, Lv 1 NP ofc because I'm not a whale.

You're baiting now, Kintoki could deal a good damge but he simply couldn't finish the boss in one turn

>Not really.

You'll have to do better than that
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Do any of the story quests drop any significant amount of chains or can I safely put story on hold to farm chains from the free quest?
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So...now what? No events, no gachas, story's cleared up, AP's spent on the QP missions before the day turned. What to do?
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>>150942858
>Round Table songs?
Surely you didn't post the best one.
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>>150942857
They need time to count all the money they just earned. They need things to calm down.
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>>150942984
Grind EXP/QP for more grail ascending
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>>150942860
The Nips fear Giga-Nigga. Rightfully, too.

>>150943003
If this is Camelot, then how will Babylon be?
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>>150942860
Ah, yes. The gacha where I whaled for Tamamo and got two Cats and a Carmilla for my trouble.

Fuck me right up my ass, this brings back horrific memories.
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>>150942940
>You are actually this retarded
It's the difference between her base at 90 and 100. Ten.
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>>150942535
>m-muh cheat APK
lol so you need cheat APK to do shitty 18k? How much can you even do without it? 5k?
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>>150942507
>the first search result for Bedivere on youtube is a video of his NP from this game
Isn't it sad?
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https://twitter.com/muramasa_tan/status/762300254930608135
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>>150941484
Karna.
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>>150942984
use you grails
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>>150942838
Just stop arguing with Melvin
Lancelot can crit pretty hard once that's his entire gimmick, trying to deny that is silly, his entire kit revolves around that alone.
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>>150942838
Not Melvin

but he can reach 120~150k with max level Saber outfit and Andersen's buffs.
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>>150943061
Friend you linked to the wrong post and incorrectly entered this sentence. You should have linked to >>150941762
and responded with
>M-muh fou
>m-muh CE
>Muh everyone else is lying
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>>150943061
>no u
beyond pathetic
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>>150942984
Strengthening/interludes?
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>letting the anniversary roll over into nothing
how do you fuck up this bad
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>>150942834
>>150942878
You don't pity remorseful idiots?

He's trying his best this chapter while mashu keeps bullying him.
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>>150942672
>Be wise like Gawain, and forgive him
Reminder he killed his brothers just after that. Gawain was too forgiving for his own good.
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>No Gawain rate up
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Bond level 10 when?
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>>150943320
I wonder if that's Galahad pressing a bit more onto her or if she was actually that mad.
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Umu! Now I just need 3 gears. Fucking feathers. Stupid Amazoness.
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>>150943025
>>150943135
Is Grail ascending even worth it? Do servants even benefit that greatly?
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>>150943260
It was just AP dailies for a week
They should've had it ready.
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>>150943262
Morgan isn't Gawan and Gareth mother?
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>>150943059
Yeah and Lancelot was at level 80.

This is her with a BBC and LOZ, her Buster up and Charisma
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So folks, what's the best CE for mordred?
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>>150943440
And rate ups, and experience boosts, and da vinci, and grail ascensions
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>>150943382
Looks like the memory is jumbled a bit, so she's kinda part Galahad now I guess
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>>150943413
They're effectively win more in 5* servants and at least they won't hold you back anymore for bronze.
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>>150943413
What else are you going to use those grails for?
And many below-5* heroes profit immensely. 4* heroes ride the stat boost of two grails very nicely.
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>>150943536
none of that is something that took time to write or design

if grail ascension had effort put into it maybe that would be an excuse but it didn't
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>>150943320
>get another chance to serve your king
>she is evil as fuck
>meet up with your kid
>get bullied by her

Poor bastard.
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>>150943413
That depends. Do you have a Jeanne Alter?
Trying to max level her for the 17,088 Atk stat is pretty fun.
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>>150943495
>No FOU
>No CE
>CheatAPK to reduce damage
>Compel her to not try with 令呪
>Photoshop a 0 after her actual level of 8


I didn't realize you'd sink this low :)
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>>150943610
I don't get what you're complaining about. What did you want?
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>>150943320
>while mashu keeps bullying him.
Blame him for being retard,Mashu just called him that to make him turn side and kill himself in process for revenge.
For once I am proud of my Eggplant.
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Should I stop hoping for a free 5* now?
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>>150943631
lion king's not evil though
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The weekly changed into something more annoying, now you have to kill 15 Wyverns among other shit.
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>>150943082
I chuckled. That gudako.
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So if Buddha ever gets in, could he be any other class than Ruler? Saver becoming an in-game class seems pretty slim.
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>>150943734
You shouldn't have started.
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>>150943781
>not using Sumanai
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>>150943082
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>>150943680
I want that manlet
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>>150943706
A new gacha? An event announcement?

It's horrible to just let the anniversary, which probably had people playing just transition into literal nothing and not even know when anything new is coming
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>>150943805
Ruler would probably wok, or a nerfed Caster version of him maybe?
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>>150943647
>8
>can't see its a 9
So you are blind even
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>>150942471
No, she is the only start servant that never had a rate up
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>>150943879
Isn't that how it's been for every event this game has had? Hell it feels the same way for every game I've played.
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>>150943879
They had a bunch of gachas.
Go play a mobage for a mobage, this game is just shameless fanservice and cash in for Fatefags. Fucking shitposter.
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>>150943885
Look again.
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>>150943734
Never lose hope anon. Even the tiniest of embers can shine brightly in the deepest darkness. just kidding we're fucked
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Euryale is the strongest Archer
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>still no Lancelot hitting 200k
Lol
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Does anyone have a link to the original Japanese raw of this? Or the name of the artist so I can search him up?
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>>150943862
Those Gudakos are too big unless Kiyo has a dick there.
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>>150943368
Soon brother,
hopefully together with Karna and Shakespeare.
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>>150943082
Fuggin Gudako
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>>150944016
That doesn't sound difficult to do.
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>>150943734
Just wait for Mashu to be 5*
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>>150943969
>a bunch of gacha
>literal rehash shit
>>
So Holmes says roman a shit
da vinci says roman not a shit
who write?
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>>150944123
Solomon
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>>150944123
Solomon.
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>>150944123
Da Vinci says Roman not a shit because she probably gets her salary from there.
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>>150943781
What? The divine quest was harder. Just go farm in Okenos.
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>>150943495
Now best Servanr does his job.

No CE, no Buster Chain, no buffs of any kind. So even at .9 modifier, Lancelot does more base damage than Jeanne Alter with all her buffs, LOZ and BBC.
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>>150944006
Against males
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>>150943706
Literally just the 2nd Camelot gacha would have been fine just to get that out of the way.

Rolling into nothing from the Anniversary which was piss poor is a pretty lame move and with the 2nd Camelot gacha rate up still waiting to happen, they'll probably just put it next week and push back any actual events even further.
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>>150943368
Bond level 10 when?
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>>150944249
Which sadly rarely happens in events.
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>>150944089
Yet here we are, still waiting for the day he hits even close to that.
>>
JALTERFAGS BTFO
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>>150944253
>>150944108
>trying this hard
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>>150944214
I just thought the weekly would always be about doors, hands and shadow servants.
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>>150944225
Based
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>>150944253
Fuckers are going to split story unlock Camelot rate up into two different ones just like America. So two weeks of nothing after this one week of nothing.

Fucking DW.
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>>150944046
Soon needs to be sooner.
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>>150944214
>divine was harder
You could have just gone to Orleans and fight shadow Martha.
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So will Ship Girls eventually be the first true crossover?
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>>150928595
;_;
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>>150943854
>using Sumanai
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>>150944480
>not taking it as a way to save up more quartz
my god you just bitch bitch bitch. Even I enjoyed this event and I usually do is bitch about the game.
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>>150944225
>rigged & photoshopped
WEW
E
W
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If you aren't using berserkers you're playing wrong
Jalter can't crit harder than Lancelot
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>>150944038
>>
New thread?
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Is there any point in using Jalter if Lancelot with no CE does more damage than her with BBC and LOZ?
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>>150943805
I doubt they could insert Buddha without the buddhists getting mad that he's not stronger than Solomon etc.
Buddha was clearly more powerful than everybody in Fate/Extra, you don't even beat him so much as prove your convictions and he leaves courteously.
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>>150944652
k-keep going
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>>150944480
>not having other things to do besides play Fate/GO
Isn't it sad?
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>>150944683
No, she's a meme servant and people just refuse to acknowledge lanceots greatness
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>>150944636
>event
It was just a week of glorified half AP dailies and some boosted rates of EXP success. Calling it an event is a joke.
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>>150944674
Do it you anon.
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>Jalter is more useless than Herackek
Never thought I would get to see this day
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>>150944683
>Jalter
Yes, single target NP so she's actually usable outside of hand/door farming
>>150944809
samefagging
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>>150944652
What a cute dragon.
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>>150944693
> Christians are perfectly fine with Solomon being the antagonist, David being a sex offender, Saint George being a low-ranked servant, Martha and Jeanne being lewdified, and Kirei Kotomine existing
> Buddhists might get offended over this so we can't do it

Fuck other religions.
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>>150944367
I'll admit when I saw the wyvern requirement I had to check that tomorrow wasn't Rider day so I get what you mean.

Werewolfs or Golems would make more sense.

>>150944507
Yeah, but there's a Okenos quest that throws 8 wyvern(s?)at you who are lvl 40 or lower. It's a cakewalk.
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>>150944814
So don't you have better things to do or do you just hover over your phone about this game all day?
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>>150944225
That's super interesting because here's what happened when I used a LOZ CE and a buster chain.

Did you maybe take the wrong party into the fight?
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>>150944480
It's been a common thing. Even the Okeanos gacha didn't have Lily in it. The rate ups are probably designed not to spoil who the world unlocks are since those servants also tend to come a bit later on in the story and these rate ups are announced before the launch.
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>Melvin is picking a fight with Jeanne Alter now

You have to wonder if he even sees the same world we do.
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>>150945005
He still hasn't burned her either.
Can't wait for the not-webm of that.
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>>150945005
He needs those (You)s so badly
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>>150944860
Christians don't care about those losers. Until Jesus Christ the lord himself shows up, christians won't take dire offense.
And Jesus is not going to show up at all costs.
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>>150944683
>Is there any point in using a crit based servantservant who can achieve a 17k + Atk stat?

Not sure, ask again later
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>>150944903
I need bones so I can max her EAM
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>>150944947
>Lancelot with LOZ does more damage than Lancelot without CE
Seems about right. Wait whatever happened to the 10k? KEK
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>>150944860
The boddhisattva Xuanzang was made into a tittymonster airhead and nobody cares.
There's a big difference between tangential figures of a living religion and the literal centerpiece around whom it revolves.
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>>150945082
>LOZ
>Adding only 1k damage
Mate.
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>>150944846
Her NP is shitty because it's only useful against rulers. Her crits does more damage than her NP. And if lancelot hits harder with crits there is no point to use her.
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>>150944860
To be fair, none of those are as important to Christianity as Buddha is to Buddhism. If Christ himself showed up, Christians would get into a right tizzy about it.
>>
Jesus can't be a Servant, he's one with God, so that would be having God. Nerds can't even into gnosis.
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>>150945060
>>150945192
> implying I don't want to see Jesus slice Dead Apostles apart with a sword coming out of his mouth
>>
if a crit boost gives 40% and an attack boost gives 30%, if I crit - which would give me more damage?
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>Lv 100 Saber Lancelot can only do up to 187,000 with his NP using his own arts buff, 50% arts buff, one 40% ATK, a Master 50% ATK and 20% defence down

Is this supposed to be impressive? Was just testing out because of curiosity.
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>>150944947
That would be around 13k without LOZ. So you accept you rigged the first "test".

You invalidated your entire argument, good job.
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>>150945184
>non-shit NP gain
>can buff the shit out of dragon servants for three turns
>takes x1 damage against everything
Yeah I sure would love to take Lancelot in a bossfight.
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>>150937394
Riiiiight.
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>>150945235
Jesus is both man and God, wholly and in equal parts. He can do whatever the fuck he wants. Though of course he's probably impossible to summon unless he willingly incarnates.
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>>150945235
Jesus is 100% Human, 100% God. You would summon his human aspect, with an EX-Rank in Divinity, whose Noble Phantasm would be to call upon his own divine aspect.

However, it seems kind of ridiculous to talk about summoning him as a Servant when you consider that his blood makes Holy Grails, and he has no wish to be granted.
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>>150944860
There's only one religion that would go apeshit if their figures appeared in the game and we already know who that is
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>>150945268
How much NP did you get back after using it?
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>>150945268
You mean lvl80. Tests were already done and he can one shot Liz with less buffs than those.
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>>150945273
The first test was just Lancelot, doing a 3rd Buster. I never said or implied anything more or less.
This, on the other hand >>150944225
Is claiming he did 15k with no CE, no Buster bonus, no buffs. There's a massive discrepancy that's only accounted for the introduction of some variable that isn't being presented.
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>>150945358
Obviously we need to use a holy grail as a summon catalyst to summon the strongest servant to fight for the holy grail.
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>>150945238
I'm relatively devout and I'd fucking love if Jesus appeared like that, and honestly I wouldn't care how he's depicted. But it's not people like us that'd get annoyed, it's the people that take it way too seriously that'd get pissed.
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>>150945368
Muhammad would make a good 3* Assassin, I think.
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>>150945387
I tried myself and you picture was not a test but a lie.
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>>150945282
>worrying about being hit when Lancelot can kill the boss in one turn
Stupid jalter poster
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>>150945368
Fucking Mormons
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>>150945384
Isn't it 1 hit only?
Vlad gets 70% and his NP hits a lot of times.
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>>150945319
That's what I mean anon. He's not going to join in this. He would just show up himself as a non Servant.

>>150945358
That sounds dumb.
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>>150944860
Solomon abandoned God for his penis in the stories & David's kryptonite was women.
>>
When are we getting more 1* and 2* servants?
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>>150945504
>implying he won't be an archer just to btfo arashuakbar with his own akbar
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>>150944860
>Fuck other religions.
Christians are also completely retarded and they all get offended for the slightest insignificant shit. The problem however isn't the religious nutjobs, it's the worthless hack writers that are afraid of offending anyone.
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>>150945432
>The first test was just Lancelot, doing a 3rd Buster. I never said or implied anything more or less.
That's still 13k without LOZ. You fucked yourself up. Just stop. You are a confirmed liar, do you think your word can be trusted?
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>>150945384
Didn't check that. Sorry anon

>>150945387
I had a support with a maxed grail Lancelot and limit break Shirou 4* CE. It probably had less damage because I tested it on a lv40 lancer hand exp.
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>>150945504
Gender-swapped and with huge glorious tits
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>>150945582
HAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
why would you want fodder shitting up rates anyway?
>>
So how about that Medea and her Ruru Bureika now that she can go to 100
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>>150945268
This is definitely bullshit. A guy posted a pic yesterday of Lancelot hitting 600k with his NP
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>>150945368
Zoroastrians?
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>>150945621
>Shitting up rates
>Gacha

Pick one
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>>150945621
They're fun.
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>>150945621
What rates?
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>>150945642
I wonder if she'll do more damage then Sanzang in the long run since she'll be spamming NP every turn.
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>>150945621
Oh yeah, don't dare mess with the perfect FP Gacha
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>>150945654
I'll post the image once the support shows up
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>>150945604
Nice projection there. Some would laugh it off.
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>>150938626
>20k Jannu
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>>150945508
>y-you are totally lying b-but I'm not!
Yeah lets trust a retard that is clearly biased against and butthurt about Lancelot. And no that picture wasn't mine, my Lancelot is level 60.
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>>150945368
Illuminati servant when
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>>150945604
Here's the problem about Christians, there are so many denominations of the religion causing people correlate what some of the more extremist views into the whole thing. It's very similar to Muslims these days but not as extreme.
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Islam a shit. Muhammad a shit. He should be a shitty joke Servant that blows up constantly.
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>>150945756
Helena ended being better than Da Vinci, so pretty sure Medea can get close
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>>150945796
Sure thing, liar.
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>>150944308
I'm saying it's not hard for Lancelot, just bring in a couple buffs and Saber outfit.
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>900 posts
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mata hari breasts are a miracle.
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So guys when do you think they'll fix it so that you can get gold CEs and 4* Servants from the FP Gacha?
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>>150945387
>>150945654
>600k
Tell him to turn that Cheat APK off

Pic related, 80 Lancelot NP1, Double max Waver command, double NP1 Waver debuff, Mozart lvl5 buff and plugsuit atk buff.
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>>150945850
The more extremes? Which are those?
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>>150939543
Just get Emiya & Daughteru in there.
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>>150945832
There has already been some you baka.
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>>150945519
>70%
What buffs did you use?
I only get 50% at most with Formalcraft and max Fox Wedding and Bride's 1st skill.
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>>150945783
200k is normal for a lvl 80 Saber Lancelot with many buffs, that was got by a guy who was arguing AGAINST Lancelot. The one he was arguing against got 250k. Check the archive, type Liz one shot.
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>>150945867
If DW dares to do that ISIS and Taliban would just declare them bad civilization and proceed to bomb them, freeing us from this hell. it's ironic isn't it
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> mfw void dust
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>>150945613
Do you need a lesson in basic game mechanics? Here's lancelot in the same battle. Same CE. There's variance on damage, but no amount of variance would let him hit for the amount he does with LOZ without it or any other buff. There are gaps you can't clear, and this is one of them.
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>>150946002
Maxed formalcraft, 2 tamamos with plugsuit and Mozart.
no bully ;_;
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>>150939631
I never got Mamaserker.
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>>150945939
I never said 600k, that was the other guy. The one you argued against had less buffs than that and one shot Liz too.

Neither reached 300k though.
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>>150945932
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I like Saber Lancelot, but his NP is so shit boring.
It's literally just a fucking slash
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>>150946017
If there are good muslims why don't they complain or insult the crazy muslims with the rest of us? I really don't get why we don't start persecuting them and actually harming them genocide style at this point. There is no such thing as a good Muslim, they all believe the same evil shit. I can't wait til shit hits the fan. I'm going to have fun burning them and their children in that little shitty phone store down the road that they live in.
Fucking sandnigger pieces of shit.
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>>150946086
And again.
You lied about something, and that dishonesty invalidated everything about your results.
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>>150946086
>>150946264
fuck off you're using cheatapk but in the negativ way, you're lowering the damages
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>>150946302
c-can he clear hands
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>>150946302
what a waste
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>>150946258
>If there are good muslims why don't they complain or insult the crazy muslims with the rest of us?
They do you git, they're all over the place and there's plenty who just flat out say ISIL isn't a caliphate because you can't crown yourself Caliph.
Still, the religion itself is extremist as fuck. "Real" Islam IS fundamentalist, modern moderate Islam is watered down in the way Crusader Deus Vult xD Christianity is retarded noncanon bullshit.
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>>150946086
>he removes LOZ and says it's the same battle
Explain the NP bars if the only one who got hit was Mashu.

You again rigged it.
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>>150946258
Actually, the Muslims do in fact protest against ISIS. http://www.salon.com/2016/08/05/muslim-americans-launch-isis-sucks-billboard-campaign-so-called-islamic-state-does-not-represent-islam/
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>>150946347
The only cheatpk that there is goes from x1 to x100, you idiot.
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>>150946386
>what is art card
kek, autist
>>
New bread when?
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>>150946258
>implying i'm not a filthy mudslime
/pol/ and 4chan in general has conditioned me to hate most part of my own religion, but doesn't prevent me from having faith.
Sandniggers should die with their backward civilization though.
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>>150946386
Do you notice there's two turns and a hand missing between those two screenshots?
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>>150946302
I'd have done him too if I didn't have to do Bedivere first.
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>>150946086
Are you fucking brain damaged or something? Why are you still replying? Are you under some delusion that you're the only one here who knows he's bullshitting and it's your duty to save us all? All you do is help him shit up the thread.
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>>150928595
Bad servants should not feel bad but get mad at DW
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>>150946014
This is the one I used. I could have seen the damage wrongly.
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>>150946393
>billboard
>not beating them with shoes and socks of rocks

>>150946375
Exactly, fundamentally it's an incredibly fucked up religion.

>>150946489
>not creating your own belief system from the ground up
Casual.
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>>150946258
Anon, its more just arabs in general are fucking awful. Even without religion they'd still be starting shit.
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>>150946578
>not beating them with shoes and socks of rocks
>implying you have
Unpatriotic slime, why haven't you travelled to their countries & fought them already? Do you care for your life above your country?
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>>150946258
>If there are good muslims why don't they complain or insult the crazy muslims with the rest of us?
The "good muslims" are those that left the religion and can't be called muslims anymore.
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>>150946578
>Exactly, fundamentally it's an incredibly fucked up religion.
All of the Abrahamics are.
Jews are literally fanfiction.
Christians are Moral High Ground, Carrot-and-Stick, "it's too complicated for you to understand".
Muslims are insane.
Of course this oversimplifies, but that's the gist of it.
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>>150946617
No now you're just being an ass.
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New thread when?
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>>150946672
No he's not. There are no great Arab civilizations when even the East Africans managed it.
>inb4 Abbasids
Literally run by Persian bureaucrats. There was even a caliph who said "Arabs can't rule for a day without Persians while the Persians had 1000 years just fine without us".
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>>150946709
>>150946709
>>150946709
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Hold up, why is Melvin trying to insist that Berserker Lancelot outdamages JAlter?

Does he think we're retarded or something?
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>>150946617
This. Fucking SEAmonkey countries are better off with their regulated-watered down version of Islam, and i don't see them contributing in any way to make their religion more infamous than it is now. except their general stupidity in Indonesia, particularly
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>>150928595
How fucking tall is kintoki
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>>150946815
From the perspective of a retard, all are retarded.

>>150946828
>SEA
>good
They're the fucking niggers of Asia.
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>>150946642
I dislike America greatly for having forced me on drugs and fucking my brain up in their attempts to normalize me or keep me from being too smart. They expect me to think it was for the greater good since I was too much for everyone to handle. Fuckers. Fuck capitalism and it's she minded bullshit. Fuck it's industrious bullshit jobs. I'll do art or be homeless before I join the herd of retarded fat mouth breathers eating that cancerous liver failing induced potato chips all day.

>>150946660
Gnosticism a best.
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>>150946892
190cm
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>>150946386
Are you fucking brain damaged or something? Why are you still replying? Are you under some delusion that you're the only one here who knows he's bullshitting and it's your duty to save us all? All you do is help him shit up the thread.
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>>150946894
Why i said their general stupidity. Islam actually helps their idiocy in check for the most part, but still distracting them from moving with the rest of the world. Just not as bad as the middle east with their wars.
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>>150946578
>billboard
>http://time.com/4112830/muslims-paris-terror-attacks-islam-condemn/
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/muslim-clerics-condemn-terrorism_us_566adfa1e4b009377b249dea
Do some homework.
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>>150946828
Not really. SEAmonkey interpretation of Islam is terrible as its own like how some of the so called ustaz calls playing pokemon go equals to addiction like cocaine and therefore should be banned. I am not making this shit up
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>>150945258
Atk boost
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>>150947161
All they say is it's bad/. They do nothing. I see white people get in fights with them. People should get physical. I see no muslims actually o anything beyond talk.
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>>150947242
My fucking country Indonesia calls every new thing introduced by a world that is not Islam pic related. Still doesn't stop the general populace. All it really does is shits and giggles, and eventually forgotten.
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>>150947282
People aren't born with a 6th sense to know when someone's a terrorist, what the hell are they supposed to do? Punch people at random?
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>>150947545
Burn mobile phone stores and general stores and their dumb church screaming buildings.
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