/domg/ - Dominions General

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Elves are trustworthy and are definitely not sneaking in glamoured raiding parties into all of your provinces as we speak

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R'lyeh did nothing wrong

>>150623351
>implying rlyeh has the capacity to do anything at all.

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>>150623256
SOON

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Posting it again because I didn't get to gloat nearly enough in the last thread.

HEY BADMIN YOU ARE NEEDED TO SUB CTIS.

>>150624410

The fuck?

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>>150623256

>>150624410
I more or less disrespected the player, and walked into him lategame (which you never do willingly).

That said, depending on the location of Patala/R'lyeh/C'tis thrones, the game will be over shortly regardless. Worst case scenario, I wait while BoT kills everything, Nexus charges me up, and his ozzie stacks get worn out by walking into stupid, but unavoidable, t0 crap.

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Play your turns

>>150625720

What, besides being bad, is stopping him from teleporting high pen mind controllers into provinces he intends to move into?

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>>150624410

>>150626579
What happened here?

>>150626579

Lambert, why are you so eternally butthurt at me?

>>150626828
>posts a battle twice to gloat
>another guy posts a battle
>"why are you so butthurt xD"
I'm not that guy, but you sound pretty butt frustrated tbqh familla.

>>150626225
Uh, because it's a fort.

Everything is a fort. And you can't teleport inside enemy forts.

>>150627368

Eh, last thread died 30 minutes after I posted it with most of /domg/ being asleep at the time. Not nearly enough gloating, especially for what is my greatest victory in this game.

>>150627542

What? To do t0 shit you need to patrol otherwise the enemy has first turn. Its basic knowledge. You teleport ON the throne and then move the army there.

>>150627746

I can't teleport anything at all unless I get rid of AC if I want it to be alive when it lands.

>>150627746
The fact that it's really easy to load any province with T0 bullshit that kills those expensive empowered casters.

>>150627746
And then you have to actually storm a fort and all of your shit dies.

Any new bright ideas?

>>150628471

Its also easy to use counter thugs to whatever you have lying in wait for the mind control casters. Its a classic game of guessing who uses what.

Storm the forts with SCs and siege with chaff, easy.

>>150628471

You don't have to storm a fort with all your units you know...

I have something coming that will be able to break any fort by itself. Don't know if it'll get there in time though. Still, it would be fun to use it if I got the chance.

>>150628596
See, you sort of need both desu. Storming the fort that is.

Storming with only an SC is a great way to lose an SC from anti SC scripting after all.

>>150627916
Teleport is pretty safe in AC, all things considered.

t. person who lost A2 empowered, AC caster, hundred gem of boosters wearing, LA Abysia Warlock to Cloud Trapeze while under his own AC

>>150629143

As I said its a guessing game. Will he use the army or SC?

>>150629239
It's not.
It's a lategame and you script for both.

>>150629604

Then he does one and has more mages doing his thing. You cant script for every situation unless you greatly outpower the enemy.

>>150630329
You can't bring mages to a lategame fort storm unless they can survive the following.
RoS (at least 6, if they're demons expect DC to be up)
ME (with possibly around 9 pen)
Maybe some other shit too. So it's really hard to outmage the defender, cause he doesn't need to worry about that shit.

>>150630329
>Then he does one and has more mages doing his thing
No, then he dies because he's walking into a turn one shitfest.
You don't need to have more mages dedicated to a specific duty and overpower your opponent when defensive warfare allows for strong asymetrical options.

Overpowering your opponents in specific firepower is important for an attacker, not defender. And even then after a certain point the numbers stop mattering at all, no matter how much you throw at fort it will all die.

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>>150631418

But the attacker can storm 6 forts at the same time and decides where to focus his forces, the defender is the passive one here, thats the attackers advantage.

>>150630989

Then you can storm every turn with a mage designated to trigger gem usage until you run out. 6 forts x 20 gems per storm adds up even in meme games.

>>150624661

admin was Marverni right? he probably doesn't care anymore.

>>150632505
Keep in mind the defender will also be burning the same number of gems every turn, in much the same way. And I have so many more gems per turn than bats that it really isn't funny anymore.

And that's the strength of Lemuria, in big meme games. Bats can probably break 1, maybe 2, of my forts by concentrating his forces. But he has to concentrate his forces to scratch my walls.

>>150624410

How many of the Hidden in X dudes do you get when casting those spells?

>>150634649
Variable depending on scales and rng, but the top result is around 40~ guys with right scales plus 1 to 3 mages. Bottom results are 20 or so.
Hidden in sand has rarest mages.

ded

Hey Cirez'sis, since we're about to meet, how about I take 215 and 213 and we make a nice even border yeah?

>>150638520
How about I take both of those and then some instead?

>>150638867
I like the way you think

>>150638867
>trying to start shit
>the guy's not online on Steam as I can see in the steam thread

Nobody says that, you'd say "sure bro go ahead" then backstab me, if anything.

I just made a AE Bless with beast totem with Jotemhelm, I'm basically mopping the floor with the AI. I think I ought to be ready to start a multiplayer game soon.

>>150639213
I've been considering taking on an "aggressive jackass" personality for a game sometime. I probably need a better gimmick than that, though.

>>150639327
Air and Earth?

If those were minor, that would be a decent mage bless if you cared about slinging damage spells at all. Earth is fine, but the A bless doesn't really get you much.

If those were major, then I don't think that it's a very efficient use of design points and you may want to ask for some help with your pretender design so that you're not unnecessarily gimping yourself in your first game.

>>150639327
N9 is much better on Jotunheim

>>150639410
Well the issue with that is, you basically just lose on it. Telling the guy you're gonna attack him is just giving it away, much better to tell him you're cool then stab him in the back.

>>150639709
Sorry, not AE, i mean AN.

I have regeneration and air shield

What the best use of death gems in combat?

>>150640059
Don't take the air shield bless. It just doesn't help you.

>>150639709
I can see AE not going together, but whats wrong with Air Shield? Air shield seems like an insanely good buff, especially on low armor sacred troops like the jotun have.

The only thing is their priests kind of suck, but they have those little goblin mages which can pump out skellies when they have amulate/ D magic.

>>150640143
It depends on your research level and what you're fighting. With the right caster and the right enemy, Undead Mastery will single handedly win you fights.

At low levels, shadowblast can do a world of hurt.

>>150639815
Yeah, but stealthily planning ahead to backstab someone is just, I don't know, stale? It's practically rote at this point and I want to try something else, even if it is technically sub-optimal.

>>150640143
It depends. Wind of Death, Bone Grinding, Wailing Winds, Rigor Mortis and Darkness are all powerful in the right circumstances, but can hurt you as well.

As >>150640347 says, Undead Mastery can be really good and Shadow Blast is a decent use. Both of those are much easier to simply add to an army.

Oh. I thought air shield had an 80% resistance to all attacks, not just missiles.

>>150640286
AE actually do go together well, since the precision and reinvigoration are both good for mages.

>>150640950
There are some ranged spells that they're also resistant to, but yeah it's otherwise only arrows and so on. If it was 80% of all attacks it would be broken

>>150640143
Death gem spells are among the best ones out there, so almost anything you'll do will get you some results. Sometimes even skelespam on D1 dudes.

t. a guy who won a big fight with it.

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Who watching quakecon here

>Alingheim taking forever to send in turns and has now gone AI on turn 6

this is why you don't let anonyshitters into games

Squids - feel free to take both of the indie provinces on our border. I intentionally made sure that my bats left them for you, given that my nosy reporters already saw your weird, weird home. There doesn't exist a drink strong enough to get rid of those images.

stay alive

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Fill this out to keep the thread alive

>make someone a trade offer
>they send back a message complaining about how unfair the offer is

Come on, man. Accept it, dismiss it, or make me a counteroffer. Wasting two turns just to whine at me isn't going to help either of us.

>>150649878
t. NoBones Marignon

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>>150647761

>>150624661
>>150634454
I was asleep.

Who offered to sub for C'tis, or what's their email?

>>150652954
Forgot my name.

>>150653106
>>150652954
I don't know if there was another one, but i'm the one who talked to Malakal.

[email protected]

>>150653349
Changed email and resent turn.

Tell me if there's any issues.

stop dying

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>attack someone
>he attacks me too
>we end up exchanging provinces

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>>150656768
It's too late for that

Anon casts twiceborn.

Other anon casts Phoenix Pyre!

Moot casts Burden of Time!

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Here's an experiment.

Cut 10 factions you think are redundant or just plain garbage. (You can cut a faction from one era and keep it in another) If you can't cut all 10 just cut as many as you can.

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=WeWuzPantokratorz

Last call for more supreme gentlemen who would like to enjoy an expertly hand-crafted organic, non-GMO, certified humane, undisputed, undiluted, vanilla Dominions experience tailor-made for refined aristocrats of the soul.

>>150661501
Machaka, both ages
Oceania, both ages
Man, both ages
R'yleh, all ages
Eriu

They're all just uninteresting to play as or against

>>150661501
Just cut all UW nations and we're done.

Hey guy who subbed for PeaceAndHarmony C'tis, can you get in steam chat?

>>150661928
>inb4 BoT rush

>>150661928
Reminder to join all non-summod games and crash them with no survivors.

Summod akbar!

>>150661501
Oceania, Pythium, Helheim, TNN/Eriu

>>150661501
EA Ermor.
MA Ermor.
LA ghosts.

>>150662058
I understand EA, but what problem do people have with MA and LA R'lyeh?

They probably offer the most enjoyable experience and one of the best chances of winning among UW nations.

Spreading insanity, setting up Mind Hunt artillery positions, having multiple turn one Master Enslave casters. They can do some cool stuff.

>>150663184
Because UW nations are rarely played proactively, ferrying around useless freespawn in LA is a complete chore, and insanity is a pain because there's no counterplay aside from managing dominion and hoping RNG doesn't fuck you over.

>>150663059
Barbares eunt domus.

>>150663184
Spotted Lambert.

You know that playing a UW nation in every game you join is starting to piss people off right?

there are some things i don't get about this game. Doesn't your population grow on its own? Or does it only grow if you select growth?

Also, I don't really understand how dominion spreads. First it says

>The chance of your dominion increasing in a province or spreading to an adjacent province partly depends on your god's initial dominion, which you specified when you created your pretender. The chance is 10% multiplied by your god's maximum dominion.

But then it says:

>If the dominion in the province is neutral, dominion increases to +1 automatically.

>If the province contains friendly dominion, the chance for it to increase by one is 30% minus (3% multiplied by the current friendly dominion in that province).

>If the dominion isn't increased in the
current province the dominion spread will go to a random neighboring province.

>If the province contains enemy dominion, the chance for you to reduce it by one is 50% plus (your maximum dominion strength times 5%) minus (current enemy dominion in the province times 5%).

So if you're dominion is 6, the province dominion is 1 in your favor, and its your territory, does this mean you get 1 temple check (for home province) with a 60% chances of having a 27% chance of increasing your dominion?

If this is the way it works then

A) Those seem like really long odds, even stacked to the ceiling with temple checks.
B) Having a to check for a temple check seems really redundant and unnecessary.

>>150666534
That's not me, and I'm mostly land nations, asside from blitzes, which had a streak of EA R'lyeh for testing purposes.

>>150666534
Don't bully

Name 5 pairs of nations that could be combined into 5 single nations.

So, let's say my pretender can cast Soul Drain, Astral Tempest, and Undead Mastery. Do I win the game?

>>150667026
>you're dominion

I was going to give you a legit response but you fucked up, dude.

>>150668113
No
By the time you get the research to cast those spells there will be ways to deal with your pretender

>>150668297
you're base dominion, i mean. the score your pretender god has.

I thought that would have been obvious through context.

>>150668452
Wow.

>>150668452
I am not base dominion and I resent your scurrilous accusations!

>>150668297
>oh, you mean the apostrophy.

burn in hell gramer nazi

>>150667026
Population only grows if you have growth scales. It's a bit odd.

>So if you're dominion is 6, the province dominion is 1 in your favor, and its your territory, does this mean you get 1 temple check (for home province) with a 60% chances of having a 27% chance of increasing your dominion?
First thing to note is that there's been a recent change in how dominion is handled.

It's now 50% + 5% per candle on temple checks, rather than 10% per candle. So dom6 would have an 80% chance rather than a 60% chance.

Secondly, if you fail the 27% chance the candle doesn't disappear, it goes somewhere else. So you're still increasing dominion somewhere, just not in the province where the temple was built. If you grab 10 dom (100% chance of temple check succeeding) in a practice game, you'll notice that the candle will always go somewhere, it's just most likely to move into a province without candles (or an enemy province).

>>150668527
>>150668570
its okay if you don't understand it.

>>150667026
To actually answer the question: the first check is to see if you get a candle going at all. The second check is to see where it goes. If you fail the second, low chance check, the candle doesn't disappear unless it hits the enemy dominion.

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>>150668589
"Your" versus "you're" is not a matter of when to use apostrophes. It's a matter of knowing when to use a verb, and when to connote possession.

Getting stuff like that wrong implies an intrinsic lack of knowledge of basic English. Educate yourself, non-Anglophone child.

>>150668589
This is like first grade shit, you mongoloid.

It seems like you could lump all the stuff from the inca's, the myans and the aztecs into one nation. Why do we need Sauromatia (1 Age), Pythium (2 Ages), Ctis (3 ages), AND Mictlan (3 Ages)?

>>150669634
Yeah, Egypt sure had aztecs, pal.

>>150668959
no it does not.

It implies a phonetic, and thus superior, understanding of language. It recognizes speech as being mutable and rejects rigid spelling and grammatic structures in favor of a more natural approach.

The constant exceptions, rules, and caveats that apply to the English language are a morass of technicalities and constant interruptions to stream of consciousness thinking, they disrupt the natural flow and rhythm of reading, writing and speech.

>>150670061
Ah, you were just trolling, okay. 4/10, made me reply.

>>150669751
Thats another thing. There are 2 or 3 Egyptian themed nations as well, all of them are redundant.

Plus the nations often confuses Sumerian and Egyptian themes, which are quite different.

>>150670061
What
>>150670173
said to be quite honest. Have a pity (you).

>>150670817
oh come on, thats not even a believable lie.

>>150669634
Why do we need to not have them?

What possible reason could you have for wanting less content?

I don't really see the point in Ur.

The beastmen of Ur seem really similiar to satyrs.

It seems like atlantis and oceana could be combined.

>>150671068
Я нe coбиpaюcь ничeгo дoкaзывaть aнoнимнoмy интepнeт-чepвю. Caйoнapa, мyдoзвoн.

>>150670061
You fucking what mate

>>150671329
because the content is spread too thinly across too many nations. A lot of it is redundant and unnecessary and reads like a particularly dry and boring chronicle of history instead of a retelling of mythology.

>>150671367
google translate, eh?
nice try.

>>150671329
I think you are confusing quantity with depth.

>>150671354
Ur is Pangaea with bad troops, which makes them pretty terrible. Oh, and they have recruitable low level E/D mages and one with an E2/A2 random, which would be nice if they actually had anyone capable of casting storm, which they don't.

Atlantis has problems with having a decent labrat in EA, slightly less so in MA and they're actually fairly decent in LA. Oceania is just underwater Pan, which also makes them bad.

>>150671692
>I'm a degenerate that can't learn his native language, and other people can't be better than me
Pathetic.

I think The Norse Pantheon, the Valkyrie mythos and the Frost giant mythos can both be combined into one empire across 3 eras, they don't need 6 slots. (Vanheim, Helheim, Niefelheim, Jotunheim, Midgård and Utgård)

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>>150670817
I agree with this anon. I speak four languages. English is not my native tongue, yet I still know how to properly write and speak it. Everyone who can't is, I expect, either a facebook baby or a text-message normie. Neither of these types of people should be here.

There are about a dozen versions of hell in this game. I get that different cultures have different ideas about death, but its kind of ridiculous to have so many.

>>150673302
Well, there's only two "proper" hell planes, inferno and kokytos (both plagiarized from DnD (or planescape? I forgot tbqh)). But xibalba is aztec underworld, hel is norse underworld (literally how world hell came to be), and there's also tartarus and shadow realm. So yeah.

Fistful Nazca, are you around?

>>150668046
I always thought Ur should be able to summon what Kailasa can. They just have the best paths for it.

Wow, I know this place has some autists, but that was straight up pedantic. Your going to hell for it.

>>150676578
Text could be clearer, but good concept.

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You cannot even fathom the depth of suffering I'm about to unleash.

>>150670817

>one of the easiest languages

Depends on your native language. Lots of Japanese people I know say it's very difficult

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Hey Oceania!

Pelagia and R'lyeh are holding a fun little get together near Atlantis. There's going to be singing, dancing, and all the Atlantians you can kill! So put on your best party dress, grab a dozen few buddies, and get your tail over here before all the sushi is gone.

>>150681919
Atlantis was cool, till I realized he was bringing death scales to his oceans. We need to rescue the poor deep one neets from their inability to breed a sustainable population

>>150673302

sort of a motif in the game is the various nations being a "hell" for their respective mythology.

see: mictlan, xibalba, hinnom, helheim, various nations getting a "judge of the soul" for cheap, like C'tis.

its almost like there's an underlying theme of religion, life, death and the eternal cycle continuing in this game of dominions IV.

>>150672917
There's no way valkyries and frost giants would work together.

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>>150682307
I didn't take Death.

I've got more Pillars than you can shake a coral-tipped stick at, so bring it on, fuckboys.

bump to keep dis shit alive

Maybe its time to stop making daily threads? Lets just settle for dominions sunday or something like that

>>150695825
It's nice to have for conducting public diplo and smugging about battles

>>150694129
I almost want to wait until I have Thaum 6 desu. Those Pillars would make a solid frontline.

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>No turns

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hope the pussy worth it caelum you fuck

1000 gold to the first person to attack this slower-than-smoke-off-dogshit caelum faggot

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>>150701721
1000 gold, huh?

Where's he at on the map?

Also rate my AGARTHAN MEME TRIANGLE

>>150702365
No, don't attack him, I need you for ermor

Wooooow another amazing arena. Quality feature illfraud, cant wait for more arena DLCs.

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WELCOME TO SHITTY WOK CAN I TAKE-U ORDAH PREASE?

>>150702632
You don't own me.

>>150701721

pls no bully ;_;

>>150703831

do a double turn right now and all will be forgiven.

>>150703886

b-but i already did a double turn, i can't do any more turns!

>>150703968

all is well then, my birdy friend. carry on

>>150703436

Where is Ermor capital?

Where is Asphodel capital?

Need to keep a close eye on them dom kill faggots.

>>150695825
How else will we diplomacy? Why would we stop?

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>>150704057
I present to you: THE MAP (as etched into the side of an Agarthan cave drawing exchange website)

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>>150704503
Blue "I don't know" is Bandar log

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>>150670817
You know the only reason english is "easy" to learn is because of its exposure through media, right?

Had it not been the global language, frequently found in movies and the internet, it would've been hell to learn by foreigners. It's one of the biggest languages(with dozen loanwords from other languages) and it has some really retarded exceptions and rules which you have no choice but to learn by heart.

And let's not bring up the genius idea of giving every single group of animals a different name.

>>150706839
>And let's not bring up the genius idea of giving every single group of animals a different name.
If you just say group nobody will laugh at you

>>150707046
unless you're talking about crows. That isn't because a 'group of crows' is wrong and more to do with the fact that a 'murder of crows' is awesome

>>150707046
>let's invent dozens of words that nobody will use

As a programmer this shit drives me up the fucking walls.

>>150707664
he says, using a metaphor

>>150707741
Yes, USING.

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>send random, freshly recruited commander to tournament
>only one sent, wins by default
>comes back with sick-ass armor, 3 points of experience and heroic skill

>>150704503
If that image is correct I got skeletons right up my asshole.

If no one sends in support I'll seek out to join them.

>>150706839
I am Swedish and for me English was very easy to learn. Most English words have either a Germanic or Latin root, which is good. Also the grammar is very, very simple compared to any other Germanic or Latin language, and perfection compared to Slavic or Finn-Ugric languages.

Yes, there are many weird exceptions with the grammar but that is true for almost all languages.

>>150709042
The ermor position is quite right, if you are to the north they are most likely very, very close to you.

>>150670817
are you on drugs?

english is hell to speak, pronunciation is fucking impossible.

>>150710664
Spanish generally be easier to pronounciate but generally all languages are difficult if you're not used to it.

Dutch is way harder, French is way harder Russian is way harder. Name an easier language that's not Spanish.

>>150711020
>Name an easier language that's not Spanish.

italian.
it's basically a different color of spanish.

I got some messages and items this turn, and since I have just subbed in, I have no idea on what the hell am I supposed to do.
It's like everyone expects me to do a different thing.

Was old Ctis a master of diplomacy? or just a fool?
Any advice would be appreciated (specially from old C'tis, if he didnt get killed in real life).

>>150711673
WHAT GAME

>>150711673
Welp, forgot name.

>>150711757
>>150711673

please can you come in vanheim chat?

>>150710664
>>150711020
English is arguably one of the easiest languages in this planet, and if you don't think so you either can't learn languages for shit, or are a Brexit memenationalist.


Spanish is arguably hard, as German is.
Chinese is a hell to pronounce and write, but grammar is easy.

No idea about russian, but someone told me it's hard aswell.


The only reason everybody and his mother knows english is because even a goat could learn it, you fags.

>>150711952
english is somewhat easier than other in garmmars, but has plenty of exceptions.

but pronunciation is hard. you can't make this shit up. english pronunciation is fucked up.

>>150712001
It's annoying, but not that hard, I would say 6/10 in difficulty.

Try chinese and your brains will literally spill out of your head.

>>150711952
>The only reason everybody and his mother knows english is because even a goat could learn it, you fags.

No, it's because of ye old british empire spreading it on all their colonies.

Why do you talk about languages when you know so little of history?

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>>150704503
Mister Arnulf from the Ulm, could you leave my cap Circle?

>>150714365
Quite sure Asphodel is around the green bottom someone.

>>150712001
No, pronouncing English is linguistically easy. It has relatively few unusual phonemes. The issue is the spelling isn't phonetic, because of the way the language developed.

>>150714015
Are you retarded? a lot of countries study English and have nothing to do with England.
Or do you mean Spain or Italy are English colonies?

>>150716284
>a lot of countries study English and have nothing to do with England.

That's because it's the "global" language not because it's "easy", what are you smoking nigger?

>Or do you mean Spain or Italy are English colonies?

The greatest country on earth is an english colony. But even that aside, english ships went everywhere some hundreds of years ago, from Australia to India to Africa, etc.

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>>150716532
>The greatest country on earth

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>>150717404
Success breeds jealousy.

>>150712110

True, but on the plus side I've heard the grammar is pretty easy in Chinese from my girlfriend.

>>150711952

You really don't know anything regarding what you're talking about. Best give up before you look even more foolish, or talk about the game instead.

>>150716284

That's only because of a thing called lingua franca.

English Grammar is extremely simple and easy to learn. Just compare it to most german or latin languages with their rosa rosa rosam rosae rosae rosa rosae rosae rosas rosarum rosis rosis bullshit, gendered words, etc.

>>150717776
Clearly you are the one who doesn't know anything. It's pretty obvious that you are either Malakal trolling or a 12 years old boy.

>>150718094
Latin is one of the most logical and easiest to learn languages. 99% of things are spelled the way they're written, with very few exceptions such as "q". (which is read as 'cv', Aqua for example being spelled as ak-va and not Ak-wua)

>>150719403
That has absolutely nothing to do with grammar.

English is simple as fuck. If it's one rose it's "rose", if it's two roses it's "roses". You don't have to learn twenty different words just to say "rose". You don't have to think about the role of the rose in the sentence, you don't have to think about the gender of the word rose, you don't have to think about whether or not rose is one of those word that just throws the rulebook out of the window, etc. It's just a rose.

>>150719403
>latin is easy to learn

have you tried?is the only other foreign language you tried to learn chinese? or are you just speaking out of your ass?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6rLLE48RL0

>>150719673
This.

This guy actually knows about languages and has all of my respect.

>>150719673

Gramatically pretty easy. The pronunciation is a bitch, however.

>>150719920
2 years in highschool and decided to learn more by myself.

>>150719673
I don't really get where you're going with this, which languages are you talking about exactly? Because mine is latin-based and we also have two words for it ,"trandafir" and "trandifiri" notice the "i" at the end to denote male-gender multiple. For female gendered words we put "e" at the end instead of "i", and that's it, it's not rocket science.

And the simplicity I was talking about is stuff like "na_ti_on" and "_ti_nder". The group of letters "ti" are spelled differently in different words, whereas in latin they will always be spelled the same.

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Can we please stop this uninformed argument about whose language could beat up whose and get back on topic?

Which artifacts are worth building? Most of them sound cool but how many are actually practical? Is the ark 1/10 as awesome as the description sounds?

>>150721028
None because you spend dozen research points and gems building it, and then someone else will wish for it.

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>>150720908
>which languages are you talking about exactly?
Literally any language that makes use of declensions. Latin, Greek, German, Russian, Icelandic, Finnish, and so forth. Sure, not all of them make equally extensive use of it, but in general it's much harder to learn than English, which used to have similar shit but changed to a much simpler system over time. Picture related.

>And the simplicity I was talking
The simplicity you are talking about has absolutely nothing to do with grammar.

>>150719673
>twenty different words just to say "rose".
Declination isn't twenty times the number of words. It's a slight modification to the ending of words, and is very consistent between words in a declension.

>you don't have to think about whether or not rose is one of those word that just throws the rulebook out of the window, etc
English is far more inconsistent than Latin. Just look at the words we have with weird pluralization like goose/geese, fish/fish.

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>>150721324
Then I guess I'll just need to build them quicker than they can be wished away then won't I?

>>150721324

If your enemy can afford to spend a hundred pearls to wish away an artefact, then you are already screwed, you just don't know it yet.

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>>150720908
>which languages are you talking about exactly?
Welcome to Russian language. Welcome to die.

There are 6 cases, there are 7 obsolete cases (still sometimes used in literature), there are 3 genders, and threre are many exceptions that you have to look up in the dictionary.

>>150721445
>The simplicity you are talking about has absolutely nothing to do with grammar.
And grammar part of a word's declaration is not all that defines a language's complexity.

Besides looking through that image I don't see what you're complaining about, english also has
>rose
>roses
>rose's
>roses'

Only difference is that they also have genders, meaning that some words end with "a" instead of "e" or something.

>>150721028
All of the magic boosters are worth building (with possible exceptions like the 2h Death staff which is really just a Skull Staff in disguise). For the rest, you have to judge them case by case.

Stuff that autocasts good spells is nice, like Sword of Augelmer or Soulstone of Wolves. Mobility options are usually a good choice, like Gatestone or the Flying Ship. Gem generators are a decent choice as well in the long run, as is Draupnir.

Most of the artifact armors are overpriced and not that great compared to non-artifact options, but they're still good if you have plenty of gems and want to give some extra protection to a high-value unit (like a caster that's essential for your battle strategy) or plan on building a ridiculously overpriced SC. Artifact weapons are never really worth it unless they have a good effect besides just being a weapon, but again if you really want to build an overpriced as fuck SC they might be worth considering. I personally don't like items that summon units for you like Carcator or Nethgul, but I suppose they can be situationally useful.

>>150721920
>there are 3 genders

Why are you acting like it's a big deal? It only means you have to end the word in different letter, and that letter is the same across all same-gendered cases.

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>>150722070
>Besides looking through that image I don't see what you're complaining about, english also has
>>rose
>>roses
>>rose's
>>roses'

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>>150722206
>Roses
https://youtu.be/byAfC5yW_hw

>>150722202
This guy never learnt german.

Depending on the gender, it declinates one or other way.

If you have 3 genders and 6 cases as that guy says, there are probably 18 diferent ways to end a noun.

That's a lot, since you also need to know what's the meaning of the word in the sentence to decide what case are you in.

>>150722202
>and that letter is the same across all same-gendered cases.
This is false because some words ending with "ь" can be masculine, feminine, or gender-neutral. Same goes for ⃠ .

It's not a big deal if you're a native speaker, but it's much harder to learn if you're not.

>>150722206
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genitive_case
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_possessive

>>150722336
>If you have 3 genders and 6 cases as that guy says, there are probably 18 diferent ways to end a noun.

You and I both know that many of them repeat themselves, there's more that repeat than those that don't. You can even see it here
>>150721445
>engel
>englas
>engel
>englas

You'll rarely actually have 18 entirely different ways to end it.

>>150722509
You still have to know which ending goes where, 18 times.

Which is 9x more than in English.

I tried to learn Russian when I was in college. Those madmen even have declension for names. Like, they have 3 parts of a name and they all need to be declined. I learned German instead, and thankfully it was easier.

>faggots actually learning grammar shit
>not just memorizing shit
>knowing anything more than what a verb is

I've lived in 3 different countries and know 4 languages, 3 of which I speak better than the average person raised with it.

Agratha went AI, by the looks of it after losing a rather nice mage to a Helheim expansion party. Elves.

I need someone to set both AI before I get labelled full badmin, I have work in 10 hours so before then plox.

>>150722509
дoм
дoмa
дoмy
дoм
дoмoм
дoмe
-this is a masculine word "house"

кaмeнь
кaмня
кaмню
кaмeнь
кaмнeм
кaмнe
-this is a masculine word "rock"

Then if you have to spell both of those in plural, you're in a different form of hell.

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/domg/ - Linguistics and dominions general

>>150725726
We can always talk about math. This game just attracts autistic people.

Ok, so now Agartha, Jotunheim and Nazca are all waging war against me. I've been at war since turn 7.

How people can win as MA Ermor is beyond me.

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>>150726220

>>150726220
They can easily win if left alone long enough. Fortunately, people are finally starting to learn about not letting them alone long enough.

Now if only people would learn the same lesson for Xibalba and Lemuria.

>playing EA C'tis
>has a slave driver with 30 runners (max is 40, figured I'd max out morale or something)
>the runners rush in combat, take all the heavy hit
>justaskeikaku.jpg
>they run away
>completely disappear
>slave driver is now alone with nothing to command
What? What happened?

>>150726543
They ran away into adjacent provinces, if they were enemy or indie provinces they would die

>>150727290
Damn it, I though I would find them in the province after I captured it.

>>150726220

What you do is take a triple major bless imprisoned pret with no scales in a non-summod game and forgo research completely. You empower your first spectator ASAP and then you use him to summon Arch Bishops which you use to freespawn Lictors all game. Triple blessed Lictors along with Knight of the Speculcor wreck anything early game, so you'll be able to not only survive against any amount of people trying to kill you but you'll take a few early caps yourself instead because they just won't have anything to answer your sacreds that early on. Then you just snowball and eat everything like a good MA Ermor should. Won a game that way with a W9D9N9 bless, although most people will tell you to take B9 for late game. Personally, I say don't bother because it shouldn't get to a late game if you did it right.

>>150727439
Picked E9D9 for C'tis, how fucked up am I?

>>150727628
How is it even related to Ermor?

Awake E9 devourer of souls can kill some shit desu.

>>150727684
Should I pick a pretender who shares magic path with his nation or a pretender specialized in different stuff anyway?
I keep fucking things up and I end up using my pretender as a researcher, magical sites searcher and blacksmith.

>>150727782
It depends.

>>150727439
>Knight of the Speculcor
Sepulchre.
English is easy.

What's the "general rules" for scales when designing Pretenders? I'm still learning so I usually play cookie cutter builds off forums but I kinda want to learn how to build one from scratch.

Are these observations correct?
1) Usually to get more points, good places to draw them from 1/2 points of Misfortune or Drain, but never 3 because they get really drastic.

I heard that picking both of them together gets you random events that steal your gems - are they relevant enough to discourage doing so?

2) On the flip side - Luck + Magic scales is supposed to give you random gem events, but is it competitively viable?

3) You can also grab points by adjusting the temperature scale towards Hot or Cold (is there any difference in which direction you send it in?)

4) Growth > Order/Production if you had to pick only one of the three? These are the ones I am most confused by since how do you tell which one is the best to raise for your nation?

>>150727824
You're fucking dead, kiddo.
You will die like the memer you are.

>>150727782
C'tis can natively cast Foul Vapors and death stuff, so maybe?

>>150727782
>Should I pick a pretender who shares magic path with his nation or a pretender specialized in different stuff anyway?
It depends on your nation and how you want to play it.
For example, MA Ulm can go with a Tiwaz of war with at least A4E4F4, which are all paths that Ulm naturally has access to anyway but has some trouble getting high levels of, and the tiwaz can cast all the high level combat spells, rituals, and forge all the boosters from those paths. The other option is to take a rainbow with paths Ulm doesn't have access to if you want more magic diversity, and more diversity is something that Ulm really wants if the game goes late.

>>150728038
Sloth, Turmoil, Drain and temperature scales can be good dump scales. More that 1 Misfortune can get extremely annoying without fortune teller mages or order 3, so it's not really recommended. The thing to avoid is drain and misfortune since the events that lead to your gems disappearing are pretty bad and you don't want to happen at all.
Luck and magic can be taken, but it's best on nations that want a lot of gems and can spend them easily like MA Agartha.
The main thing about temperature scales is that fire magic/effects like heat are weaker in cold dominion and vice versa, rivers are impassable in hot dominion but can be crossed when they're frozen over (can be useful on maps with a lot of water crossings). Also, you don't get points for going more than three temperature scales away from your nation's preferred temperature, so something like C3 on Abysia is pointless.
Growth is better after 24 turns for income than Order and is the best income scale usually, there's a table for income scales in the OP in the last link. Production is usually only needed if you need the extra resources.

>>150728038
Designing a good scales build from scratch requires good knowledge of the nation you're playing. For example, Growth is good for everyone (ignoring exceptions like MA Ermor), but not everyone actually needs it. Growth is great for your long-term income, but if you have to give up Growth scales in order to, for example, get a better bless, it could easily be worth it if it means you'll have much better expansion or you'll be able to secure an easy victory in an early war, because things like that have a much more significant impact on your ingame performance. Most people choose to stay well away from Death scales, but they can be worth it if you're fast enough to outrun your candles, or simply control the spread carefully.

The same goes for Order, but with Order you also have to think about whether you have a better than average reason to keep unrest down, which is why most Blood nations choose to run O3 if possible.

Production depends almost entirely on how resource-hungry your recruitable troops are. If your troops are relatively expensive in gold and/or cheap in resources, it can be a no-brainer to get Sloth 2 or 3, while for example nations that rely on heavy infantry will take at least Prod 1 almost all of the time.

Temperature is a bit of a no-brainer most of the time. For neutral nations you want to keep it neutral, for heat nations you'll want Heat 3, and for cold nations you'll want Cold 3, but in some cases it might be worth giving up a few scales here to get more free points. For example, if you have lots of fire mages it can easily be worth to take some Heat scales even as a temperature-neutral nation.

Magic mostly depends on your mages. If your researchers are cheap but have low research values, M3 can give you a lot of bang for your buck, while nations that will spend most of their time recruiting expensive, high-path mages don't suffer as much from Drain, making it a more attractive choice. Of course, some nations ignore Drain entirely.

>>150728574
>It depends
From now on, each time I'll read this in this thread, I'll shout at my computer.
>on your nation and how you want to play it
My pretender how spends most of the game in the capital, either researching, forging items, or looking for sites.
I used to use it as general, but I painfully learned that heroes in Dominions 4 aren't all powerful like they are in Warcraft 3 or Battle Realms.

Let's just say I'm going for a support pretender. I should pick nature for the regeneration blessing, and Death/Earth to build boosters for my mages, right?

>>150728038
>>150728637
Luck is perhaps the most "it depends" scale there is. It's not a very efficient scale on its own, but has great synergy with Turmoil and having high Order makes one or two Misfortune scales much less of an issue. Luck also has the most interaction with other scales, famously Luck/Magic and Misfortune/Drain can lead to some great/awful events, respectively, but also some less intuitive combos like Luck/Order can give good results.

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>>150728814
>Luck is perhaps the most "it depends"

>>150728038
i see 3 moments: expansion phase, first war ( turn 12-25, depending on how early you want to start), lategame.
Looking at my nation i decide if something needs to be improved, doesn't need help, or can be bet on for great reward and i design a pretender based around that. Sometimes you have a pretender that helps 2 or 3 of those moments instead of only one.

the "scale style" is order3 + misfortune 1-2 that costs more points VS Turmoil 3, luck3 and possibly some magic to make gems fall.If you want an heavier bless turmoil luck is a way to grab some points, but you would prefer to choose based on "how good are my gold-based mages VS my national summons".

I actually begin pretender Design from production scales/expansion bless and choosing if i want an awake god.Because nothing matters if i can't expand as much as i want.

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>>150728814
>Luck is perhaps the most "it depends" scale there is.

>>150728885
Well, it's true. The actual effect of Luck depends on many factors, including ACTUAL luck (if you take Luck 3 you can still get unlucky and never get any of the great events, or even get lots of bad events since the overall chance of events occuring (good or bad) is increased).

It's hard to say if Luck is objectively good or bad, just that it's obviously better than Misfortune and that in most cases it's not an efficient scale to take unless you're willing to bet 120 design points on getting more gems.

>>150728763
N9 is a good general purpose bless but you really want sacreds that synergize well with it, or are intending to make a lot of shrouds to put on golems or something. If you're still talking about C'tis, they don't have any sacreds worth putting N9 on (unless it's LA), but they can use some earth and death magic. D6 is enough to cast the majority of death magic spells and forge every booster, so you don't want to take more than that most of the time, if you don't care about the D9 bless (which isn't that great anyway). E6 is enough to cast every earth spell in the game, but you might have a bit of trouble getting enough earth gems to really make use of it.

>>150729227
Well, only the Sacred Snakes, I think. Unless there are sacred summons.

>"D6 is enough"
>went all the way to D9
Fuck.
>"which isn't that great anyway"
More fuck.

I'm shit at this whole pretender thing. Can't I just pick one that looks cool?

>>150729482
>Can't I just pick one that looks cool?

If you don't care about losing, then you can do anything. If you do care, then you have to learn the meme strats.

>>150729597
Even if I only play against the AI?

>>150729125
Luck's great, shit tons of gold at times. Overall it really does mount up a lot of extra gold and gems.

>>150729683
If it's against the AI go nuts
It's not as though they will put up that much of a fight anyway

>>150729709
It does add up, but for example compared to O3 or G3, L3 doesn't bring in nearly as much gold in the long run. It doesn't get even remotely interesting until you start working the synergy, for example T3G3L3 which is reasonably common, or even O3G3L3 which I've seen more than once, but that's quite a lot of points which might keep you from getting the bless you want. In general, taking Luck for gold is very much not worth it. For gems, it could be worth it because there are no scales that directly influence gem income, so for a nation that relies heavily on summons, L3M3 (whether combined with Turmoil or not) might very well be a worthwhile if somewhat unreliable option. Of course this goes double for nations that have a good reason to get Turmoil (like Lanka or Yomi), since you'll usually want Luck just to take the edge off of Turmoil anyway.

>>150730063
>taking Luck for gold is very much not worth it

Oh certainly but you never take it for raw gold. It gives gems and the odd item, which is sometimes nice sometimes trinket level shit. It really does give a lot of gems over the course of a game. I've sometimes managed to get enough free slaves to empower someone and break into blood for instance.

>>150730063

The place Turmoil Luck starts getting interesting is in disciple games.

With a sufficiently large team, you've enough provinces and domspread that it becomes less of a crapshoot and more of the one guy who did get the 2000 gold event passing to teammates as need. Similarly non-native gem granting events can go to nations that can use those gems.

In freeforall, it's more a matter of your personal luck on whether you get the events you want early or late or not at all.

>>150728038
I like taking misfortune if I'm fishing for points, but it can get tough if you're hit by bad events ove and over again in game. I don't think I would ever take drain unless I'm playing a nation where mages can ignore drain scales, or maybe one with high research that doesn't get hampered too much by it. Thieves stealing your gems feels really bad, it's not bound to happen, but when it does it sucks for sure. Though if you're picking both misfortune and drain you are probably not on the right path to design your pretender.
Luck and magic can give you a lot, but as always it depends, it's random events so you might see them, but you may also not witness your gem treasury getting filled. It's just like gold events, it's cool when it happens, but your strategy shouldn't rely on those.
For hot and cold the points depends on what the base scale is for your nation. Adjust as you see fit (never forget exceptions though) to cross mountains or rivers, or to get more points at creation. Look at whose playing with you : getting cold with frost giants on the board isn't the best bet, getting hot with abysia and c'tis can also hamper you. That is, if you start near a nation which is comfortable in cold or heat. Also check what your units and commanders want, it's bad to end up with more encumbrance because you went full temperature scales.
If I had to pick one of those three it would probably be order. Growth is nice for almost everyone but it's not the one you always want, production depends on whether you need ressources and order brings you unrest reduction on top of gold, so two important things.

Keep in mind that you can test your builds in single player, submit them here to get destroyed by our local experts, and that you should get a pretender build that makes you comfortable and is in phase with your game plan. If you don't feel it, ask for help or try again.

>>150662679
No don't I can't play summed games till he gets the new Versionout

>>150730402
>our local experts
Who dat

>>150695825
Host more games obviously

>>150733007
I second this, I'm only in 2 games right now and it just isn't enough.

>>150733401
I'm in 8 games at the moment. I really need to stop before I turn into Lambert.

Hey squids, I'm taking 206

>>150733474
My peak has been 12, never again. I woke up in the morning for turns, couldn't fall asleep at night thinking of turns, kept checking my email every minute or more, etc. Never again.

3-5 is the sweetspot.

>>150733504

Well isn't that a coincidence, so am I.

so does the damage from fire arrows stack against armor?

if you fire a short bow that does 9 damage and cast fire arrow for 8 fire damage and hit a guy with 12 armor, does it count as 17 damage vs 6 armor, or two separate attacks of 9 damage vs. 12 armor and 8 vs. 6 armor?

>>150733650
Want to hop in steam chat?

>>150733780
Two separate. And if there's fire resistance fire arrows also have to roll against it.

If it stacked it would be way overpowered.

>>150733780
Two seperate attacks, but the 8 damage is Armor Piercing (and, of course, both have DRN rolls)

>>150728637
Is it bad to take temperature to 3 as a neautral nation? I usually do it for the extra 120 points

>>150733910
none of the spells listed seem all that powerful really. most of the halfway decent ones take a ridiculously long time to research and are a bitch to cast.

>>150733801
No, I'll just fucking take it.

>>150734263
nice may may

>>150734032
IT DEPENDS

Some nations can definitely take it. For example, taking Heat 3 on Marignon or isn't that bad since they use lots of fire magic, or Agartha since their shit is cold-blooded (which sucks in winter with neutral scales) and their mages use fire as well, but I definitely wouldn't recommend it as some sort of default dump scale, especially if there's a good risk you'll be facing a nation who actually likes those scales. For example, being Marverni and taking Cold scales when Niefelheim is in the game is probably not a good idea at all.

>>150733627
>12 games
fuck that. 4 is plenty for me. Knowing that I'll have to put in more than a maximum of an hour of Dominions a day to stay competitive is maddening. 2 games at once is always manageable, if boring at times.

>>150733627
You're not gonna impress illuminati with that attitude.

Start winning more games with elves if you don't want a "trip to mexico".

>>150735210
Nice try, Illuminati.

Winning more games will just put me on your radar. I win a couple of games in a row, and next thing I know my wife leaves me, my house burns down, and I have inoperable colon cancer.

>>150735474
>implying everyone doesn't get taken by the illuminati eventually, when they reach 100 won games.

They don't want competition, so you either join them or..

>>150734327
>>150734032

in my opinion you should always go for 3 scales of temperature unless you are Ragha or you are trying to make a superscales pretender ( whch in my opinion isn't so worth it to the point of giving up the 120 ponts from cold 3).

>>150733504
No, you're not.

>>150736357
Two false flaggers? This is new and exciting

>>150733504
>>150736357
I am Cynothalu by the way, not the earlier person who responded. I am goigg for 206, I need it because it's pretty much the only direction I can expand in.

>>150736525
Can't you take the water?

>>150736525
Want to talk on steam? I sort of imagined that you'd be taking all the water, given that the other amphibious nations are either much weaker UW or far from the coast

>>150736637
I can and I will if I can. I pretty much only have my cap ring when it comes to land provinces and that is simply not enough.

>>150736846
Well, if you go through 217, you can still get 198 with that same expansion party

>>150736832
Who are you then? Chimori?
Anyway I'm in chat now.

>>150736952
That's not certain I haven't scouted there yet.
Considering how close all players capitals seems to be there should be a player nearby there.

I know Ashia is close, and they are flying.

>>150736959
I'm in chat

>>150736959
>Anyway I'm in chat now.
Fibs!

>>150737093
>That's not certain I haven't scouted there yet.
I see it.

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>tfw you try to impersonate someone else in chat but the guy you were trying to impersonate is there

>>150737767
Actually, the game's sorta not anonymous, so I know who squids are. Sadly, they're not here.

>>150738132
If you can actually get online, I can show you why I need it, why you can work around not having it, and what I'll give you in return.

If you do that, on the other hand I will kill that party, I will kill your party in 2, and I will be on your capital in two turns. The choice is yours.

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>>150694129
>>150681919
>neighbors already fighting

And I really wanted us to hold some underwater council where we would discuss overthrowing the land-walkers, since they outnumber us and everything.

>>150738294
I am in /vanheim/ chat

>>150738496
Did you change your name then?

>>150737862
You just gotta hope the guy asking doesn't check the steam thread for names, because everyone except 1 are listed there.

>>150738595
Yeah, no, I believe that they're squids because of the screenshot, but they're just not actually in the chatroom.

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>>150711952
There are 210 definitions for the word Set.
English is almost impossible to master compared for non native speakers as a large majority of meaning of words depends on context and cultural understanding.

On top of that we have several letters and sounds that are incredibly hard to pronounce.

You don't know shit about phonetics, if I would have to guess you are the ass hat who wouldn't answer an anon's question because he used You're incorrectly.

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>>150739609
>that pic

Jesus christ how horrifying.

Peace has been achieved. Thanks, squids.

>>150738316
I happily would, but the warmongering nations of R'Lyeh and Pelagia are scratching the finish of my basalt castles. So far they've suffered significant casualties for minimal gain, and have yet to actually meet my armies.

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>>150739746

>>150739609
>English is almost impossible to master compared for non native speakers as a large majority of meaning of words depends on context and cultural understanding.
The same is true for pretty much every single language there is. Language and culture are always deeply connected, which is part of the reason why the same language spoken in different cultures will be spoken in a different way. Pretending that makes English special somehow is completely retarded, and the difference between learning a language for conversational purposes or some arbitrary "mastery" of the language (which by any reasonable standard not even most native speakers can claim) is massive.

>On top of that we have several letters and sounds that are incredibly hard to pronounce.
First, that's hardly a unique feature of the English langauge. Second, the difficulty of pronouncing words is such a subjective standard to judge a language by that it's entirely pointless anyway, because it both depends on your mother tongue and is highly mutable from region to region even if the language itself doesn't change.

is anybody starting a new game?

>>150741416
I've heard from many polyglots that English is difficult to learn relative to other languages.

>>150742485
I know 6 languages and English was the easiest one for me (next to my own language, naturally), though it's impossible to be objective on that since I've learned so much English passively, through movies and video games.

Native German speaker -
Anecdotally, I found English harder to learn than any of the romance languages, but easier than Mandarin.

>>150742648
I don't believe you.

>>150742687
Or actually, let me put it a different way -
I could pick up words and phrases in English fairly easily from exposure, but I still fuck up pretty often with my English, whereas once I actually learned French, I could manage the grammar pretty consistently.

>>150742834
You're a braggart and a liar.
Its obvious by your tone and inflection that you are a native english speaker.

>>150742648
>I've learned so much English passively, through movies and video games.
One of my English teachers told us to just keep watching our movies in English. Hollywood's honestly huge for spreading the use of English.

>>150742980
Since we're discussing language, I'm actually taking my time writing these. I'm sorry that this triggers you.

>>150742708
It's not that hard.

I'm Dutch, so I learned Dutch, English, French and German in highschool just like everyone else. I also did Gymnasium (as in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium_(school), not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium_(ancient_Greece)), which added Greek and Latin to the package.

I'd be a filthy liar if I said I was fluent in all of them (that's only for Dutch and English unfortunately, I've had little to no reason to use the others in the last 12 years), but I did learn 6 languages.

I love how people who took half a semester in Spanish in high school think they are "fluent" because they can order off the menu at a Mexican restaurant.

>>150743227
You're backpedaling.

You speak at an 8th grade level. You rarely use words that are more than 3 syllables. You can't infer the meaning of words through their usage and your vocabulary consists of less than 10,000 words.

>>150743198
>Since we're discussing language, I'm actually taking my time writing these
That's good, if
you actually made a mistake you would be met with this sort of reply >>150668297

Also guy arguing that english is easiest language got illuminati'd , coincidence?

>>150741867

See>>150661928

Gonna start soon.

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>>150743497
Are you going to challenge me to some sort of English contest and prove it?

From my experience my English is at least as good as that of most native speakers.

When you are a non native speaker, you never drop your inflection, even after you become fluent. You may hide you accent (with the occasional lapse here and there) but the words you use will always be different from those of a native speaker.

You're just poor white trash like the rest of us. You're not even using the queens english, you're a piss poor american lower middle class schlub just like everybody else on 4chan.

But if lying makes you feel better, then please, continue to do so. After all, if you can convince yourself, you can convince anybody.

>>150743952
I don't see anyone here "speaking" with an accent, famalam.

If you think you're so good at detecting "native english speakers" show me from the last 10 posts which ones belong to them, and which belong to filthy foreigners.

Its not even that you lie. Its why you lie. We all have accepted lies that are generally agreed upon, a sort of mutual non-aggression pact not to call each other on our bullshit.

We ask each other, "how was your day?" like we give a shit and are generally friendly and cordial to each other. Its when you get in pissing match trying to outsnob one another like the elitist poseurs you are that I feel the need to make an ass of myself.

Mystifying throngs of idiots with grandiose claims of cultural superiority is no substitute for a classical education.

The liberal arts exist for a reason.

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>Both China and Ulm are in my meme(me) triangle

Hahaha time for memes!

>>150744224
>all of them

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>>150743952
>>150744371
>it's a "let's start spouting nonsequitors in order to derail the argument" thread

>>150741416
Again you now next to nothing about what you're talking about.
Eastern languages have the exact opposite of the problems western languages have and that's very few words, and words that are only used in EXACT circumstances.
Which is why Japanese puns and sayings almost never translate over regardless of requiring cultural knowledge or not.

There is not even a single language that comes close in the amount of words that are spelled the same, pronounced the same, yet have hundreds of different meanings all based on 700 years of history and memes.
Mastering a language as far as understanding 90% that a English speaker means in everyday conversation.

>>150743227
Wow, you mean to tell me that you speak 5 different languages that descended and straight adopted words from the 6th language and between each other?
Wew, so impressive.

>>150744604
I speak six languages is an absurd claim. Its not something anybody should accept without proof. There are probably less than one in hundred thousand people who can speak more than 5 languages fluently.

Its about as absurd as saying, "I just won the lotto" without having the dated time stamped ticket.

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>>150740207
>Warmongers
Preposterous!

Who's the one fielding those monstrous abominations known as Living Pillars? Who's the one that spoke with glee about a mere PITTANCE of those foul beasts slaughtering the noble Amber Guard? Who's the one who retreated from their expansion up to the gates of the Pelagian cap circle because he "needed to resupply"?

Atlantis has been engaged in a reckless arms race from turn one. They're not interest in cooperation or truces; they merely want more and more of their double-blessed rushers so they can crush us all. When my scouts discovered that Atlantis had mobilized over FORTY of the creatures, I gave the order to swim.

What other choice did we possibly have?

It already requires 10 units to merely SCRATCH one Living Pillar so what will happen when they add in mage support? How about a few fat bonuses from the abundance of thrones in Atlantian territory? The idea terrifies our researchers and it should horrify all of us.

Atlantis CHOSE this outcome, and before long, the unified armies of Pelagia and R'lyeh will knock down that Basalt embarrassment that those terrible beasts crawl out from. It's only fair that we give our steadfast ally, Oceania, a chance to join the right side of history.

>>150738316
An alliance between Capricorns, Tritons, and Aboleths can still work. Just look at Pelagia's own truces with you and Arco as an example. We've had no incidents and our mutual cooperation has expanded all of our territories like never before. Please join the fight so we can restore balance in the seas.

>>150744919
>Again you now next to nothing about what you're talking about.
That's a rather bold claim.

Care to prove that you do?

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Guys, I want to play a fun nation with lots of powerful mages to blow stuff up, who do I pick?

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>>150726220
Reminder that I (your lord and savior, Pan the Deathless) have won as MA Ermor.

Verily my divine accomplishments are without equal.

>>150745203
I suggest you learn to read before starting an argument about language.

>>150745342
LA Pythium.

>>150745342
Marignon and Abysia are great at blowing shit up.

>>150745342
Who is >Ermor

Everybody wants to make the claim that they are bi-lingual. It is one of the most exaggerated statistics in the world, because anybody who can speak a few words in their native tongue thinks they are capable of holding a conversation at length with somebody who is a native speaker.

The truth is, most people who claim to be bi-lingual aren't really bi-lingual at all.

>>150745773
If by learning a language you mean anything that's sufficient to hold a decent conversation, pretty much everyone itt who isn't a native English speaker would quality as bilingual.

Unless you'd like to prove otherwise and point out who in this thread are native English speakers, and who aren't.

>>150745773
I'm bi-lingual.

>>150745445
And I suggest you tie your hands behind your back, shove your head up a the ass of a maggot infested horse corpse and eat your way out after ripping out all your teeth.