/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

dumb stutterposter

If it takes you longer than 14 minutes to model an F-15, you are a nodev and need to leave.

i hate anime and weebs!

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2/6 of my harem. (these aren't concept art like previous ones)
and saved as .jpg for dat lovely lewd pixel art.

>>150746075
Closed-minded. Weebs are shit, anime is just another form of entertainment, plagued by aforementioned shit.

>>150746087
the anatomy looks really off

>and saved as .jpg for dat lovely lewd pixel art.
>.jpg
>pixel art
kill yourself

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Post your favorite movie and your game so I know which devs are plebs.

>>150746251
Post your art

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>>150745592
I knew I would get asked this but I never know what people actually want to see me post, but I drew this Motavio anyways

>>150745708
I'm bad even at gamemaker

>>150745981
I don't really have a plan I just wanna be a part of something. I would say I'm competent at everything pixelart related although my animating skills are meh.

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>>150746087

>jpg
>pixel art

>>150746087
>this took over 7 months to create

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>>150746351
Neat

>>150746251
if you say so
>>150746431
>taking that bit seriously
>>150746487
week working on and off.

>>150746487
>If it takes you longer than 14 minutes to draw a pixel snake girl, you are a nodev and need to leave.

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>>150746267
Equilibrium

>>150746351
Like I've said, I'm a filthy engine dev with little to no time, but if you have an idea for a relatively simple game for the jam, maybe we can find a way. Hit me with a mail if you want anonk at protonmail dot com.

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>>150746087
>.jpg
>pixel art.
you should use .png for better compression and lower chance of artefacting

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The grappling hook now works correctly when used for swinging around. The next thing is to add the ability to ride it up and down and then it should be finished.

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reposting for (You)'s

>>150746969

Seriously thinking I'd input .jpg into my game over .png. ...

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>>150746267
>Profondo Rosso
the first thing that popped into my mind, maybe because I've rewatched it so many times, all-around solid giallo

also
>yfw you are the only /nonlewd/ dev

>>150746087
>>150746087
Any small scale stuff?

>>150746087
Snake girl: would not bang.
Succubus: would make hot chocolate for her with cream and cinnamon on top, then discuss if French or Russian existential philosophy is better.

>>150747186
Maybe one of the other 4 might interest you better.

>>150747114
erm, my dev blog has smaller scale stuff from the earlier days of my project.
http://crazykappaworld.tumblr.com/

>>150746631
That's true though. We don't want talentless hack nodevs in our general. By the way, where's your snake grill? Clock's ticking.

>>150747058

Nice model.

Between your elbow and wrist/hand, on the forearm, do a 90 degree rotation/twist before attaching wrist. It will look much more natural better that way.

>>150747457
what do you mean

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Reworked the code for the inventory.

Also set everything up for potential localizations.
Pretty surprised UE4 natively supports japanese/Unicode

Now in case I'm actually doing translations I can just crank out .po files and let someone else do that shit

>tfw your king's field clone could actually get a japanese translation

That'd be preddy cool.

>>150746087
http://www.kyrieru.com/p/this-first-part-will-cover-many-of.html
http://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/

>>150747098
Is the right map a square of the left map?

Why are enginedevs browsing agdg? They have no progress to post and I don't see them discussing enginedev.

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>proof of concept is so fun that i'm terrified to post progress because donut steal

>keep seeing posts about how devs would fuck over single idea games by putting it in their game.

when would be a good time to post progress? i just know if post progress, someone smarter and more experienced than me is going to steal it and make a better game than i ever could.

i cant even art that well so even if i make something extremely polished just a little art from a copy cat game would make mine pointless.

it seems like the only way to stop theft of ideas is to get widely noticed fast, that way imitators are more obvious. looks what happened to the Crush the Castle devs.

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>>150747607

position your actual arm like in the model, palms facing the ground, and look at it.

like in the top arm in this image.

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>making art
>can listen to music or podcasts without being too distracted, fun, relaxing, comfy
>programming
>any sound at all ruins my focus, can't have fun, not relaxing, not comfy
>be much better at programming than art

Why isn't life fair, bros?

>>150747675
Shit's expensive as fuck though.
Saw this Google Translator Toolkit for .po editing. Suggested some professional translator. Already at 8$ with this .po file, and that's basically just dummy GUI/item text.

>>150747987
TOO LEWD

Unityfags:

is it better to use the UI that comes with the unity editor (canvases and such)

or to code your UI using GUI Scripting?

is one better than the other?

>>150746351
I can maybe help. Contact info?

>>150748012
do you mean like the middle image here

>>150747975
For the same reason artists browse:
They are in the delusion that they are making games.

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I'm going to make a Breakout game for Lewd Jam and I'm debating on how I should skin the game. Like, whether the paddle should be a schoolgirl playing tennis and destroying shit, or a boy who's aiming the ball at women to undress them, or maybe it's split-screen with lewd on the right of the game window and the actual game is a visual metaphor for foreplay, or what. I guess I need a solid direction about the level of lewd to start on. If it were a girl as the paddle, I'd also be deciding whether to place her at the bottom of the screen facing up (for upskirt), or at the top of the screen facing down (for jiggling).

Pic related would be roughly the style and scale for the sprites I'm doing.

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>>150747429
under 5 minutes from reading the post

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>>150747987
>pixel art
>bone animation

>>150748428
looks dang jiggly though right?

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>>150745762
DO NOT lewd akane

DELTE THIS POST IMMEDITATELY

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>>150747914
This is actually a great idea I won't use now because not enough locations to validate something like this.
Right now the map has 6x7 squares with 12 unique locations

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>>150747987

>advanced pixel boob physics

>>150748153
I just have steam and discord pretty much
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198019863180/
Discord: Jellyfish#8742 (I think that's how you post discords?)

>>150748093
i don't use either of those

i create a second orthographic camera and tie all my UI to that

>>150748558
The "overworld" map shouldn't be more than 5x5 if you do that.

The 6 x 7 map looked better at a higher resolution. (right in the previous post). Your oasis loses too much detail at the lower resolution.

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Starting to work on the teleportation mechanic. Still buggy and need to polish a bit more.

>>150748798
care to elaborate?

>>150745762
>neither jam's page says that it's only for agdg
good work guys
both of you

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Man, resizing things is really difficult.

>>150747987
What do you use for boning? Spriter?

I need to make an asset pack for the unity store.
what should I make?

I was thinking of some character for a platformer with diferent animations.

>>150749003


holy fucken christ. use a proper pixel graphics editor like Aseprite.

This isn't hard.

>>150748835
I will probably fuck it all and make the expedition screen 2x bigger so that all informations and useless info (like a small photograph of the place) can be placed. It will have to wait for after demo day 10
>>150748921
looks sweet, can't wait to play it

>>150747987
how can I achieve this level of pixel lewd quality?

>>150749070
look up what kenney did and do the same stuff in your own style

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>>150749003

>>150748957
create an orthographic camera, set it to only render your UI
set your main camera to render everything except the UI
set all your UI images to 2D sprites

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>yfw you fully grasp just how fucked up your code structure is

>>150749143
Maybe I missed it, ubt what is the actual gameplay in the base and in expeditions? You've been posting a lot of the event screens that I assume happen within the expedition itself

ASMR is perfect for lewd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0oDJd-0xoI

>>150749193
who?

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>>150749003
>tfw scared to post progress because one misstep and a crazy shitposter will try to turn you into a meme

>>150749026
>>150749026
Yes spriter, spine is too expensive and can't find a pirated version that isn't too outdated

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>>150749310
basically: turn-based base building with resource managing while dealing with events, and exploring the desert

>>150749193
didn't vine try that?

ask them and see how if it's worth it

>>150749438
meming is free marketing
sometimes I intentionally post something obviously wrong, because I get more feedback when people try to correct me

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>>150749437

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>>150749438
do it pussy

>>150749464
Damn. How? I was trying to get into Spriter, but I couldn't imagine that it's that effective at this size. I always drew at a higher resolution, then scaled down the sprite sheet and did some after work on it.

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>>150749143
I'll need to remind myself to make sure to add a limit to it because webm related could happen.

>>150749105
>Aseprite
>using meme software
kek

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who /love/ here

>>150749513
nice king of dragon pass clone senpai

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>>150749379
I feel like a fucking autist every time I hear shit like that. It sounds so stupid

>>150749692
I want to listen to your sweet jams, anon, and I want to dream about having your tune in my game, but you refuse to give me anything else than Voocaroo links (I have saved everything, tho).

>>150749629
that's pretty neat.

how much dosh he makes off it?

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>>150749782
I made my own box physics in Love and then realized it already had it's own built-in physics

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>>150749819
I've always said it's glorified oregon trail but actually king of dragon pass clone is closer.
>>150749692
adding old vhs effect when teleporting (or any kind of glitching really) would be great

>>150749942
I don't know.
Though a lot of his stuff is for free

>>150749691
I don't scale down and any smaller than the res I've done there looks too ugly on rotating limbs.

>>150749989
do you select a team of soldiers at the start of the game

>>150749989
can i play the game with no black people?

>>150749885
Sorry. Thanks for liking my stuff though. If this game does work out, hey, you might see who it is posting it to whatever. Though, I'm not familiar with the Steam greenlighting process.

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>filename

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>>150750109
yeah, game begins with choosing
>your character's background
and
>5 soldiers, with only first five being available at start and others unlocked by playing the game
>>150750181
>can i play the game with no black people?
this is agdg, not dice's latest WW1 shooter

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coderfag here.

any artbros here who want to hookup for a HuniePop clone?

>>150750320
What are you doing
Why are you doing that

>>150750439

At this point, you should be full on shilling on TIGsource.

I'm pretty sure you'll attract a sizeable crowd there as well.

>>150750461
custom allocation

>>150750450
I would, but not taking part in the jam, working on own lewd game

>>150750450
How much of a clone?

>>150750450
>I want to clone a shitty game

Choosing good usernames is so hard

How do you code something to be destroyed if its outside the view in GML? I know there is a DND option but I need it for a script. I thought I had a solution but it's apparently flawed

>>150750605
>At this point, you should be full on shilling on TIGsource.
Frankly, I'm a little bit afraid of doing this without any demo. How does that site work?

>>150750974
[gamename]dev

>>150751058
What if I decide to make another game? Or even rename the current one?

>>150748012
>>150748165
pls resply

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>>150751208
I'M GOING TO END YOU

>>150751208
You can change names anytime on most sites.

>>150751057
You can post a devlog in its own thread, posting as much or as little progress as you want. I think they also have a dedicated shilling forum.

Reading the introduction thread is hilarious
>The indie games community is so small

>>150751208
>implying you have even one game to name yourself after

>>150750841

No voice acting that's for sure. But everything else that's possible.

>>150750741

Thanks. This is for the lewd jam tho.

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>>150750450

Hope you find a drawfag to work with. I had a similar idea for a lewd puzzle game, more like Sentimental Shooting than Huniepop though.

>>150751290
>mfw I have no game name yet
there goes my shilling

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How true is this?

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>>150750974
>not being a narcissist
step it up senpai

>>150751590
official shitty dev list
>bunnydev
>gogem
>EXNDL

>>150751391
>implying I don't

>>150751547
>>150751057

It's really easy. Create a devlog and post everyday.

>>150751682
kill me

>>150751560
It's true of /agdg/ because /agdg/ is shit at everything

>>150751767

Ignore him. That's the literally insane shitposter.

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did this guy really rip his models from another game

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Progress

>>150751882
Baka

>>150751560
>Leggable
>Fleable
this made me laugh way harder than i should've

>>150751435
How can I contact you?

>>150751882
Is that what jealous people are claiming now?

>>150751882
They look like modded Artificial Academy 2 characters

>>150752000
Can't unsee that mouth as a mustache

>>150751560
Very true in any project once it passes baby stage. OOPs was a buzzword in the 90s when nobody knew how to computer, but it has largely been regarded as a mistake (unfortunately after kajillions had been poured into teaching it in universities)

>>150752317
[citation needed]

Sup /agdg/, I was thinking about picking up game development as a hobby on my days off. Where should I start? Is it hard to make good games on Unity since most Unity games seem to be shit?

>>150752069

someone said so a few threads ago and facial structure looks very similar to those AA games

>>150752396
[nervous java cs grad detected]

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>>150752396

>>150747098

Hey, I am not technically a /lewdev/ either. Mainly because last few weeks i've been a /nodev/

>>150752396
>muh inheritance
>muh state

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>>150746267
Favorite Movie:
Riddick 2013

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Been neglecting combat
I added a sword clash when you both attack simultaneously and made it so you can't stun lock enemies by spamming attack

I still need to replace the mesh, what's a good generic minion animal that can live near/in caves?

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>>150750461
that wasn't even its final form

>>150752676
So you have none then is what you're saying, you're just talking shit like you know fuck about anything when you don't, you shitter cunt.

>>150752024

are you on discord? _metamythical#6727

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>>150751560
>>150751560

>>150753321
Any language is going to look like an ugly clusterfuck doing stuff like that.

Hey guys, I'm working on my game written in a language using an Object-Oriented Programming system paradigm, but I'm constantly getting errors and bugs and my code is complete spaghetti.

What should I do?

>>150751560
what kind of memetic spell is this?

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How can I make this background less flat and shit

I have no experience drawing environments

>>150753960
As-shurtium from someone too dumb to learn sepples.

>it's a 'shitposting about OOP' episode

>>150751882
but it's easy to make it if you have custom 3d girl.

>>150754080
Shadow starts at the door

>>150753271

Neato

Dire Moles

If "OOPs" is so bad then why does everyone use it

>>150754151

There's supposed to be lights on the other side as well, but now that you point it out, the only thing that's doing is making shit confusing.

>>150746981
what engine are you using? tried doing a grappling hook in Unity and couldnt do it

>>150754140
>>150754403
at this point im pretty sure it's probably our local rust shill

>>150751560
When you're retarded enough to throw in factories for the sake of factories and pull shit that belong within the hierarchy out of the tree like Leggable/Fleable shenanigans, yes, that's going to happen

If they mess up organization while using a method that trades in performance to gain organization, you don't want to see their fucking mess that they produce without OOP

How could you even program without objects

>>150754403
>using OOP
>gamedev
why would you do this to yourself?

>>150753445
I am now

>>150753698
C++ is never ugly

>>150745762
Would anyone like to Playtest my game?

>>150755012
I love C++ but sometimes she can get a little homely m8.
But she more than makes up for it.

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>>150751560
>Subhuman
so glad I got redpilled on OOPs early on

I've met college grads who literally didn't even know there's other ways

>>150755097
Fuck off, insane nodev. You have no game.

>>150752000

Why are you ripping One Punch Shrooms from Dark Souls?

>>150751560
once you'l get past hello world, you'll see how much OOP helps for maintainability

>>150755097
What game? Can it be played by browser without flash?

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>>150755262
Im actually VirusDev, and i do have a game

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>>150755646
>OOPs
>maintainable

>>150755860
Literally not a game. It's just a virus. Fuck off, nodev.

how do you even do stuff without objects?

>>150755826
Yes, its a HTML5 game

>>150755983
link to your github

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My other mobile game is almost finished as well so I thought I'd go back to, you know, finish it. All that's left really is making the other backgrounds unlockable.

Anything I should add that can fit this game's style?
Also, I'm thinking of dropping the random color gimmick and have a preset set of colors to switch between like in pic related. Did anyone even play the first demo?

>The problem with object-oriented languages is they’ve got all this implicit environment that they carry around with them. You wanted a banana but what you got was a gorilla holding the banana and the entire jungle.

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>>150755826
>>150755860
>>150756000
>>150756026
Heres the game

https://googledrive.com/host/0BwS-v6bO2acDTUlUc1Ryc1NWeXM

>>150756120
>>150755983
just what I thought

>150756293
>it's a vague metaphor non-argument

There is literally nothing wrong with OO. I learned it in school and it works fine.

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>>150756550
>needing to be taught programming in a school

>>150756293
If you hate OOPso bad then why don't you make your own language

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Boss progress, added the stinger attacks that steamchat asked for. Spawning little wasps is next.

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>>150756668
>playing or making video games
>not fighting in the Rhodesian bush war instead

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>>150756245
why did I even think you wouldn't be allowed to press the buttons? Now I feel disappointed

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>I have no experience drawing environments
that's it ain't it
spend a few years learning to draw then try again

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>>150746267
The Rescuers
No title yet, only posted a few models I've worked on. I need to actually get to work on the meat...

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>want to make cyberpunk detective visual novel ADV (like hotel dusk / pheonix wright)
Am I retarded for thinking that might be too similar to va-11 hall-a?

>>150757294
Like you

>>150751560
>>150752317
You can also make component systems using OOP, just because you don't rely as heavily on inheritance, doesn't mean it can't use inheritance at all.

>Object-oriented programming is an exceptionally bad idea which could only have originated in California
-Dijkstra

>>150757294
Good.

The middle icon is pretty ayy lmao, is that intentional?

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>>150757379
>>150757419
fuck me, wrong and old pic
>how does it look?

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post UV

>>150749438
See >>150749627. Why do you give a shit what a bunch of children say? You'll get more attention from the people who feel bad for you anyway.

heh, this map I'm working on has 69 rooms.

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Robatnik's floaty thing.

I probably wont add more polygon detail as I dont want to waste too much time on this.

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>>150757513

>>150757513
>painting walls and engineer(?) red
eh?

>>150756309
The A S D at the top is misleading. I kept mashing those buttons but nothing was happening.

>>150757513
I love how the gun looks like a M1 Garand. It looks like a guy got his finger really hurt reloading it.

>>150757513

If you lack items and skills, is panicking the only option? Also looks great. Maybe make cracks in the background shake a bit? Might give a small kick to the tension of the situation

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>>150757662

>>150753898


1. stop being a samefagging faggot

>>150751560
https://player.vimeo.com/video/43380467#t=17m24s

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>>150755860
that again

i hate your graphics with all my being. it commits every sin possible and I want it to burn.

>>150757819
+1

Game was shit anyway.

>>150751560
OOP is only good for syntax and dividing up code. Don't buy the one-size-fits-all meme. Inheritance is okay for some things and garbage for most.

>>150757819
A,S,D are powers you unlock after a certain amount of points

>>150758020
>inheritance ever
What's your game so I can never play it

>>150757851
>make cracks in the background shake a bit
This may be good. Look The Consuming Shadow for potential reference.

>>150757725
like having both walls and the person red from all the blood
>mfw english is not my first language and I get really anxious when posting anything
>>150757851
>If you lack items and skills, is panicking the only option?
yeah, the red panic option is shaking a bit by itself, maybe some animation in the background could do the trick
>>150757824
actually there is a chopped of finger in place of the bullet but all soldiers have their fingers

>>150753898
>hey guys im retarded
>what do
nothing

>>150758201

In general The Consuming Shadow dealt very neatly with horror, madness, and dark occult things. Using it as inspiration and reference could only benefit the game, if it's meant to take a darker turn, I think.

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>>150758272
>actually there is a chopped of finger in place of the bullet but all soldiers have their fingers

are the lewd devs going to submit demos for lewd jam?

>>150758146
If you have to explain it once, you'll have to explain it to everyone who plays the game unless you change something.

>>150756668

>being a self taught code monkey

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>yfw you realize there really is no defense of OOP but you are too dumb to learn anything else

>>150758147
most oop games, aka most games
time to stop deving newfriend

Give me a good lewd game idea or I'm just gonna make a strip.Blackjack, strip-breakout, strip-pong or something.

>>150758650
>tfw too dumb to learn OOP

>>150758625
School isn't necessary to learn to code
You also can't get anywhere with what your learn in shcool alone, you have to do shit in your own time.

>>150758625

no wonder everyone in this thread is anti OOP, lol

>>150758650
>is no defense of OOP
The fact that non-oop is irrelevant for games. And they'll never give you proof otherwise because they're just /dpt/ shitters looking for (you)s

>>150754080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VphR_yM6KxY

>>150758625
t. Raj Kumar Patel

>>150758147
When I said "okay for some things" I was not speaking of games.

OOP is just a tool, it's neither inherently good nor bad. Even inheritance can be useful, occasionally (it's basically syntax sugar for composition + interfaces). The issues are that the whole thing is abused nearly all the time, by people thinking that if you use one thing linked to OOP you have to go the full nine yards. And also people who don't know that polymorphism exists outside of method overriding, or that encapsulation exists outside of private fields.

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>inheritance
>encapsulation
>polymorphism

>>150758541
>>150758017
Would greying the skills out or making them initially be invisible help?

>>150756309
Virusdev back at it again!

>>150758625
Uh, I went to college for software development and I was let down tremendously. We covered 1/3 of an intro to C book in 10 weeks, I read the whole thing in 2. We spent an entire quarter on linked lists and red-black trees and then threw away the remaining 95% of our algorithms book. Then we moved into Java and wrote Pac-Man in teams for our final, where I realized why the pace was so slow -- because my entire team was fucking stupid.

I continued for another year before deciding that this is fucking bullshit and self-study is infinitely more condensed. The only pitfall of being self-taught is to undervalue theory and technique. I don't undervalue either.

>>150759120
My suggestion would be to have the standard controls up there and as you learn a skill, the skill controls replace the standard ones.
Or something along those lines

Guys, I'm deving a RTS and I was looking for a pathfinding tutorial.

I'm deving a Starcraft-like game, does this kind of games really use a cell based pathfinding system like A*?

I checked pathfindings for Starcraft, Warcraft 3, Starcraft 2 and Supreme Commander 2, and it seems each one does the same thing its own way.

Can I get some recomendation? Maybe a tutorial or something? I really don't think cell based pathfinding is the way to go but I can't be sure of it.

>>150758984
Actually, I take part of that back. OOP is not a tool, it is a harmful paradigm (object ORIENTATION, as in you have to do everything around objects). Using objects occasionally and classes occasionally is fine.

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>>150759301

>>150759120
>Would greying the skills out or making them initially be invisible help?
I would say so yeah.

If OOPs is so bad then what's better

>>150759486
Writing good code using the tools available to you and not adhering to an artificial toolbox.

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>>150758625
>school taught programmer

>it's a people that don't even finish games argue about the best paradigm to make games episode
Meanwhile some kid is selling his latest spaghetti mess game maker game on steam.

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I spent 5 hours on this

Is it suicide time already

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>tfw you're the person who mostly starts these OOP flamewars and you haven't said a thing today

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Why is there always so much OOP shitposting.
Go back to /g/ if you want to wank about paradigms/languages/whatever. We're amateurs here, who honestly gives a shit what you're using as long as it works.
Fucking nodevs I swear

>tfw you took your OOP to dinner tonight and he hated the food and now is puking in your toilet while you cry yourself to sleep

>>150759301
what are some good learning resources

>>150758861
>im-fucking-plying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PhArSujR_A

>>150759463
Reading a 100 page book on an intentionally simple and compact language in two weeks is not something to brag about. I don't know what else I said that is questionable, particularly in the elitist know-it-all crowd that frequents here. My point wasn't that I'm a fucking boy wonder, it's that the courses I took were for distracted people who can't into computer.

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>>150759685
>implying I need the pennies an amateur game would get me on steam
>implying I'd get pennies

oh wait but you're "the next" jblow/toby fox right?

>>150759926
Carmack is an anomaly of a person, but as a whole non OOP IS irrelevant to games. But it's not like re-implementing his old games in haskell is worth anything.

>>150759301
I'm in IT college, and we spent the first 6 months of this year just learning theory. Now we're starting with Java. It took the teacher 3 weeks to explain variables, when I learned what was a variable in literally 10 seconds watching a youtube video.

The pace is slow, but at least (I hope) it gets better by year 3 or 4

>>150760141

>game dev god
>his opinion is irrelevant

nice try shitter

>>150759701
What the fuck is this mess?

>>150759782
>as long as it works
Exactly my point. OOPs doesn't work.

>>150760141
Pro tip: id Software games aren't OO.

>>150760256
nice post moving.
>>150760351
What?
Since when?

>>150760245
>but at least (I hope) it gets better by year 3 or 4
I'm on my final year.

It didn't for me, and probably won't for you.

>>150760259
It was supposed to be a run cycle

But I messed up at frame 3 or 4 and everything after it is weird

>>150760312
>Industry standard
>Doesn't work
Try harder next time

>>150759334
Have tried implementing A*?
If you don't want to use A*, look up other pathfinding algorithms.

>>150759334
Guys please.

>>150759916
It's hard to rate them among each other, and I haven't read a great deal of overlapping material to compare. Just use actual books as opposed to web tutorials, that was the one thing that college did for me is presented me with textbooks that I could no longer continue to dodge. I don't think they were the best available, but they weren't Microsoft Press bullshit that I had tried once before and they were fairly complete. My C book was Kochan - Programming in C. My algorithms book was the fairly standard Introduction to Algorithms by Cormen, Leiserson, Rivest, and Stein -- which I have to point out is a bit more of a reference book than a study book, and may be intimidating depending on your (discrete) math proficiency, but it does have a reasonably comprehensive introduction to everything it uses. You'd also do well to get a design patterns book such as the "Gang of Four". Beyond that, look for books that interest you and don't seem too hyped up to the general public.

>>150759301
The other half of the value of schooling is if you're someone who'd be interested in professional gamedev, either as a fallback or as a way to brush up on your knowledge before you take on large indie projects.

Depending on where you go, you can literally walk into game (or random software) companies post-grad while being a complete nodev.

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Okay, run 3.
Which one do you think is readable by a normal human, but still has that old manuscript feel to it?

Last time one dude suggested "Worn Manuscript Rough" font. It is the first one from left. I also made the paper a bit more lighter.

For the most accurate experience, open it in full size. You may need to open that image in a separate tab.

Don't mind the text. Its my version of Lorem Ipsum.

>>150760596
Take a step back. Are you using an OOPs?

>>150760570
>having that much faith in the industry
good grief

>>150760434
Thanks for the input that I probably wasn't wrong to quit after two years. I hope at least the paper turns out to be useful to you, that part is my only regret.

>>150760583
I don't feel like A* is the way to go.

My units have 40x40 circular bases, I would need to implement huge grids to go with that.

Does a 1000x1000 grid makes any sense? Cause that would be the grids I would be needing I think.

>>150760626
Nigga they're all shit just stick to the old one

>>150760245
>I'm in IT college
>IT
>computer science

>>150760623
>Depending on where you go, you can literally walk into game (or random software) companies post-grad while being a complete nodev.

lolno. Enjoy doing a bootcamp after graduating because nobody will hire someone without 5-10 years experience on their exact special snowflake configuration of tools. (especially when Pajeet does it at half cost)

Can someone please give an argument for object-orientating your software other than "muh industry" or "muh relevance"? Those aren't even arguments to begin with.

>>150760697
Come on now, don't meme on the newbies, save that for the NSA and Al-Qaeda.

>>150759334
>>150760697

Sry I didn't state it in first post. I'm using Game Maker.

>>150760785
which old one?
Comic Sans?

>>150760895
You'll have to provide an argument against OOP, the burden of proof is on you.

>>150760957
Rawhateverthefuckitwas

>>150761047
Why should he have to? Alternatives are on equal footing, unless you give weight to industry/relevance, which like he said is a non-argument

>>150761047
https://blog.pivotal.io/labs/labs/all-evidence-points-to-oop-being-bullshit

>>150760626
I don't like the constant cut-off upper vertical lines on the left-most. #2 is acceptable but looks more like a personal journal. #3 looks too print-y and stands out from the background too much. #4 is probably the most acceptable though I personally don't really like it and I can't describe why. #5 is garbage.

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>>150759701
>>150760505
I fixed your legs.

>>150761172
>thing is bad can someone tell me why thing is good
>why is thing bad?
>NO you tell me why thing is good
???
>>150761175
>can't even provide his own points
classic /dpt/

>>150761384
It really doesn't matter whose words I use.

If OOP is so good you should have no trouble showing me why.

>>150760878
I'm speaking from experience, buddy. I graduated from Univ of Waterloo (Canada) while holding onto offers from some prominent companies like Gears of War 4 folks, SMITE people, and Ubisoft, and I'm just a really average grad with a 70% average mark. I have little clue how different it is for people in different universities, which is why I said "depending on where you go".

>150761448
(You)

>>150760895
Don't. But know it exists, because it's another potential tool. The more tools you know of, the better you can make good judgments on how to approach a problem. OOP isn't universally bullshit, it's just usually bullshit and the biggest problem is how it's touted as a magical one-size-fits-all solution that it clearly is not.

>>150761545
Object-orientation isn't a tool, it's a religion. Objects and classes are a tool.

>>150761315

still needs more frames and bump.

>tfw OOP is a cult

>>150761545
>I can't come up with any positives about OOPs but trust me they exist

OOPsies always backpedal to mumbling about how it's a tool that has its uses

>>150761609
OOP is touted like a religion, but it is not. Objects and classes can be used fine with essentially no OOP, so objects and classes are not the tool being discussed.

>>150760141
>OOP being shit means we promoting haskell and functional programming
your argument is as shit as OOP.

520
You really showed me.

>>150761545
>>150761609
ToolS, because you can have objects without class. Classless objects are the best kind of objects.

>>150761315
Oh, I didn't expect someone so nice on /agdg/! Thanks anon!

Since i'm really tired of attempting to animate i'll use that for now

>>150761752
How is the mantra of orienting your code around objects a tool? It's a religion. As you said, you can use objects without making them a focus.

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why aren't you commissioning art for your game?

and why aren't you ruining it with your shitty coloring?

>>150761172
>"The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove."

It's a logical fallacy, and it's the same kind of argument you'd hear from someone who believes in god; "If you can't prove that he doesn't exist, it means he does."

>>150761175
We can send links to each other all day with other peoples opinions, here's one against functional programming which I assume you favor:
http://degoes.net/articles/fp-is-not-the-answer

The truth of the matter is that they were designed for different things, both of them can do the same thing as the other though. If you feel more comfortable writing your software in a paradigm you like, you should do that.
There is no "best" paradigm, and there's no reason that you have to write your software with a billion inherits just because you use OOP.

>150761759
That's what Carmack talks about in the keynote if you'd actually watch anything Not-googs.

>>150761746
STL uses OOP. I wouldn't put OOP in a vidjagaem, if that's what you're really focused on here. I don't know why you're calling me an OOPsie when my earth-shattering defense was "OOP isn't universally bullshit, it's just usually bullshit". I hate it, but I'm not stupid enough to say it can never be used.

>>150761964
>Why aren't you commissioning art for your game?
Probably because I'm an artist

>>150761965
Points against FP are not points for OOP. Try again.

I don't favour any paradigm, I favour writing good code using appropriate tools for the job.

>>150761083
Do you mean Rotunda?

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>>150761964
>mfw

>want to be code monkey and just like make game
>can't make the jump from applications to programming for games

what do

>>150761980
>>150758861
>OOP being shit means we promoting haskell and functional programming
your argument is as shit as OOP.

>>150761965
>if you are against OO you must favor FP
Typical OOPsie

>>150762160
Ratatunda yes

>there are people who can't imagine programming without adhering to some "paradigm"

>>150761470
Adding on, you'd be amazed at what they actually ask in the fucking interviews.
>Super basic 3D math questions; eg. "here's 3D vector A and 3D vector B, what is the math to find the midpoint between them?"
>FizzBuzz tier C++ questions just to make sure I'm not lying about being able to do C++
>Personality questions
>Really general design questions like "Name everything you'd do to implement a field of flowers that grow"
You don't need 4 years of schooling to answer any of this, but the whole fucking point is that the other half of their trust comes from which university you've graduated from.

>>150762592
not following a paradigm is the best paradigm and its called imperative/procedural

>>150745762
Long-haired Akane is the best Akane.

If you hate OOP so much why don't you make a better paradigm

>>150761965
Not him, but FP is not the answer because NOTHING is the answer, there is not a fucking universal one-size-fits-all solution to programming. That's the same bullshit I hate about OOP, pretending there is a set of rules to solve any problem you can think of.

I will say, my favored style that I find to be applicable in a lot of the scenarios I run into is functional core, imperative shell.

>>150763090
because functional already exists

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>>150763090

>>150763090
because thats how we ended up with OOP
>fixing bugs by making more

>>150762149
It's not hard to find arguments for and against paradigms, so asking for them on an Anonymous imageboard is futile when all you have to do is google it, just like you did to provide me with arguments against OOP.

I could google it and just copy paste all the arguments here, but what's the point when the information is readily available to you?

To me, it seems that you simply don't care, if you don't give enough of a shit to google for them yourself.

>>150762431
First off, there's a reason I said:
>which I assume you favor

Second, that's generally what I see here. It's either FP or OOP.

I don't personally give a shit about what you use. Use what you prefer.

>>150762996
>the imperative paradigm is the lack of a paradigm
That was stupid, googs.

>>150761964
Because I prefer to ruin my own art

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Think I'm staying with this book version for now for travelling between levels, does it look alright? Really want to move on to more spoopy stuff now.

And should that spoopy stuff be more experimenting or trying to get the first parts done so I can send a demo your way so you can shit even more over it?

Have been busy all week so have been progressing ultra slow, will speed up by monday hopefully.

>>150763258
Is this demonstrating how both of these are bad?

>>150762687
It also helps a metric ton to get you through the door.
I applied to places with "BA in compsci" on my resume and to the same place same resume without it on a different email/name. Uni degree has a 295% higher call back rate.
Degrees are becoming more and more useless but they still hold value to the old guard. It means you can finish something. Hiring is like 90% personality. Do they like you or not.
Everyone knows that shit the ask you , as you said. They can teach someone they like anything they need to know.

>>150762996
>don't follow any paradigm by following this specific paradigm

>tfw only know OOP

>people slinging around all these other paradigms

ill just stick with what i know

>>150763394
>literally twisting my words
you have to read english from left to right.

>>150763431
Ass portal looks great. Actually looks like its bending geometry instead on just playing a video on top.

>>150763390
>thinking FP and OO are orthogonal
Typical OOPsie

>>150760780
Perhaps this is what your looking for: http://aigamedev.com/open/tutorial/clearance-based-pathfinding/

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pls just fucking blend ;_;

>>150763390
>deflection

>It's either FP or OOP.
I'm asking why orienting your code around objects is a good idea. You'd have to be pretty short-sighted to think the only alternative to object-orientation is closure-orientation.

Just don't orient your code around any specific thing, fuck.

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>>150762183
halt! that ethereal ass is mine!

>>150763593
I did, and I'm not the only one that got that stupidity out of it: >>150763436

Just say imperative is your favorite paradigm. Be honest. It's not special, but it is often nice.

>>150763431

How integral to the experience is VR? Because if it plays a big part, then demos seem kinda pointless. I'd say make the mechanics and basics done, so that you can build up on something solid, then go with experimental stuff.

Also, what happens after the portal opens? Do you walk into it, does it swallow you, do you just fade to next level?

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>>150763607
That's because its actually bending geometry, but using the angle of view I make sure its snaps back if the player tries to look at it from behind. It really hurts your brain in VR.

>>150763869
Oh shit. Thats awesome

>>150763534
No worries, it's all you need to know.
As long as it's the standard, you're good to go, start giving a shit once it matters.