/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

Look at your steam library.

How long has it been since you've played Dark Souls 1 or 2?

Kakyoin is for_______

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2nd for i dont know what the fuck this gif is and i hope its not porn

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>>150714635
>Gwyn's tomb
>Right underneath what looks like the main cathedral

???

Random webm unrelated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkEbHnV33uI

reminder

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>>150714614

>>150714729
EVO 2017

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>>150714635
i dont know but heres another gamble gif. please dont be porn

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i want her to by my mother

>>150714706
>that life bar
panic

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>>150714614

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>>150714628
riposting

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>>150714748

Am I the only one who'd want to see someone try to run a competitive Souls tourney in real life just to watch the sheer madness and shittiness that would result?

Not so random webm.

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>>150714628
Being right

>>150714812
Listen here, I am best JoJo, and posting the same hornet riposte shit every thread does not intimidate me

>>150714826
anally annihilated

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DS1 webm. Why isn't it a gif? Must be some Johnny-come-latelys.

>>150714972
I want to invade as a skeleton

>>150714826
I guess it could work if they used that lan shit that some youtuber used with a friend and they have like 1ms ping or some shit.

>>150714903
What kind of a fucking name for a move is "emerald splash"? I guess it would be good for wet T-shirt competitions but for battle? Nah

>>150714903
Out of Jotaro's squad, Kakyoin is the most boring and most devoid of character. Part 3's redeeming quality is when Kakyoin was hospitalized desu.

>tfw no souls bf

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>>150715225
A final fantasy one 2bqwitehonest

>>150715301
Listen here nigger, at least I didn't fake die in five seconds to Whore Horse and Pinhead

Had they had the chance to use the painter thing a little more I could've been a wholesomely decent character

DeS webms; they exist for some reason.

>>150715106

Sure, but it'd still be a Souls game. Can you even imagine the kind of autistic shitters that would come out for it? It might go to hell before it even starts if someone brings up the idea of banning certain weapons and equipment.

Which game do you think would be best to use for a tourney, DS3?

>>150715313
Post your face when you see this!
*unzips Havel's gshield and darksword*
*chips away @ u for 30 minutes*
Ur ordeal is over... for now. Not so eager shitpost now, r u? This has been a warning.

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beach party with the onion family

>>150715436
Abdulah didn't die though?
>kakyoin can perform voodoo
>nah, let's not use that ever again other than for a minor scene that doesn't even depict what it was supposed to ie star's power

>>150715649
Kakyoin was so unmemorable that Araki actually forgot his powers.

Now talk about Dark Souls, assmunches.

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>>150715649
He "died" because /pol/nareff was a racist and was also fighting every halfwit with a stand

>>150715436
Kakyoin is that one friend that claims to be good at video games, but is actually just some pretentious prick.

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>>150715451

Woops!

Here's a DeS webm.

>>150715451
At least we haven't reached the point where people start editing and fixing the game on their own or being mocked by other fighters, so we'd never reach the point of Smash.
I think they'd just flock to whichever was the newest since, everything aside, From aren't exactly netplay masters

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>>150715991
Post quality netcode

>>150715935
Are there more videos of this strapping young man's exploits?

>>150716061
Eternally mad that there's no shrug in 3

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>>150716135

No, neither of them were ever seen again.

>>150716179
You can scratch your ass and ring a bell.

>>150716219
>ring a bell

You mean Eleonora or?

>>150716219
Those don't give off the same "I don't know what is going on or what the fuck you want" feeling

>>150716279
you can use the weapon art to ring chimes

>>150716330
I agree

Are they ever going to fix poise?

>>150716448
they might adjust weapons to make hyperarmor more valuable, but no

having damage reduction while in hyperarmor would be nice

>>150716195
>Beckoner Friendship

This is how edgelords are born

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>>150716448

capcha: stop

Oh my can you imagine what it would be like if they announced the DLC right now haha and it had new weapons and rings and armor ahahah it would be interesting

>>150716448
Go back to DS1 faggot.

>>150715451
DaS1 is the only one that could be deep enough for a tournament, especially a lag free one.

>>150716448
fix?
but it's working as intended

>>150716490

It'll always be randomly useful and randomly not with the 30 second-or-stagger refills.

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>>150714547
>this picture
God, it's so fucking atmospheric.

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>>150716195

>>150716695
DaS1 with Weapon Arts

or

DaS3 with poise, toggling, and instant backstabs

>>150716716
Yeah, half a minute refills make poise too unreliable to rely on it. Even assuming a great weapon was on the level of others, you couldn't possibly dodge 30 seconds whenever you got hit for the sake of that

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>>150715935
>That face

>>150716839
DaS1 with slower back stabs would be the perfect souls game. Poise and toggle escapes made the game deeper.

There is no excuse not to have ful hyper armour from frame 1 of any slow weapons attack animation

Prove me wrong.

>>150717037
then the game will be even more passive than it is now

>>150717037
I'm glad that's not true and that I don't have the need to prove you wrong because you don't have a say in it to be honest.

>>150717037
This will promote even more passive play from both sides
Ultra users will just swing whenever you get close and it dumbs the game down even more
However i do agree that HA could maybe start a bit earlier so its still possible to interrupt but its no longer as easy as it is now

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>>150714762
Why do you have porn in your Souls folder?

>>150717037
>fast weapons can't be agressive against them
>but they still can't be hit by ultras except on reaction
>just becomes about waiting for ultras HA to run out

>>150717037
It's about being punished and learning to time your attacks so your attack still goes through, if you run up and R1 in a fast weapon users face you deserve to get your attack stuffed, because you're being stupid, simply pressing an attack button shouldn't be enough to make you safe.

Alright guys, what are some decent Pyro weapons (infusable) usable at base stats, that AREN'T Straight or Thrusting Swords?

The only ones I've got so far are the Hand Axe and Thrall Axe. Witch's Locks has too high dex requirement.

Daggers maybe? Standard spear?

>>150717198
Everytime someone would run by me after invading to try that shit, I would just dashboard.

>>150717289
use your fucking spells for offense

>>150717289
18 dex is the perfect amount.

>>150717289
Thrall axe is the only one i think
Standard spear is too short for its class
Dagger is ok, but keep it as a quick back-up weapon

>>150717289
Club
Battle Axe

both wreck shit in PvE

>>150717090
>rushing someone down
>they press a button
>bunker with an armored move
>they either trade or get hit
>passive

>>150717530
That's not what would happen though. They would just roll through it and punish your recovery.

So instead Ultra users would just backpedal until you tried to swing then they would tap R1 once and repeat.

>>150717383

>any type of spell build in DaSIII
>not having a melee weapon as back-up/support

Yeah no.

>>150717401

I often see people advise the Thrall Axe over the Hand Axe; what's the reason for that? I'm not near my TV so I can't test and see the differences for myself right now.

>>150717529

I should've added it's for PvP/invasions only. Thanks for the tips though.

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Let's talk level design, /dsg/.

This time, let's talk about types of levels that you DON'T like in Souls, or your pet peeves in Souls games' level design :

I'll start :

>over reliance on bonfires over physical shortcuts
>overzealous use of killboxes preventing shortcuts if you could normally survive the fall with Fall Control or Cat Ring
>tight aggro leashes on enemies which makes you unable to lead them to favorable terrain or prevents them from chasing you
>rooms that fill no world purpose (i.e Dark Souls 2 secret rooms that were just empty squares with treasure chests)
>levels being designed with Warp in mind (i.e, you can't backtrack without using a bonfire,transition levels lose meaning)
>overall design being very horizontal instead of vertical

>>150717730
Thrall axe has quickstep WA

>>150717730
Thrall axe has the quickstep WA for shenanigans
I think it also has better chaos/dark scaling? not sure about that

>>150717730
>I often see people advise the Thrall Axe over the Hand Axe; what's the reason for that?
Thrall axe has the quickstep.

>>150717743
i hate ds3 boss rooms. 90% of them are just big squares

>>150717730
>doesn't want to use swords
>doesn't want to use thrusting swords
>12 str 9 dex
hammers and axes are your only option buddy

>>150717530
No, because that button is circoe/B. Any good weapon user won't attack you. They can dodge all your attacks on reaction, but because you can reaction press light attack you could reaction roll out of, they know if they do any attack they attack first, they lose, so they'll simple stop attacking UNLESS you can't attack back, such as roll catching, or attacks with little recovery like most running or 2kats WA.
There is no reason for them to be aggressive at all, and if you try to be aggressive on your part, well, you're still a greatweapon user

>>150717958
>Any good weapon user won't attack you.
Dark Souls 3 pvp in a nutshell

>>150717743
I gotta say that DS3 design even if it's a lot more linear than Dark Souls 1, there's still the option to venture to a high level area like the catacombs in DS1 with the Dancer/Lothric Castle and I fairly enjoyed it. Also some of the shortcuts are fucking stupid like the crystal lizard one at Farron keep or the ones in the Great Archive. Overused much a little bit?

>>150718008
Exactly, however, his proposal would make it even worse. How can someone look at DaS3 and say, yes, let's make this more passive

>>150717730
What level? There's no reason to get some STR/DEX

>>150716761
Profaned Capital is pretty much one of the better places that has some good atmosphere. Too bad it's short as fuck.

You all got fucking baited.

Many STR attacks in Demon's had full hyper armour from frame 0 of their animations, the butchers knife/greatclub,dbs etc 2 handed rolling attacks, same as pretty much all the R2's and even alot of the R1's

that game had the most offensive STR play. Right now it's actualy passive because STR people can't fucking attack. They have to rely on mid animation hyper armour. The only way to hit someone with that is

a) a trade
b) the person is stupid and lets it happen

DeS is the only game in the series where STR and DEX were evenly matched

In DaS, your weapons only scale to a certain point, 40 being the soft cap, right? What happens in NG+6 then? Do you just ineffectually wail at the enemies with your weapons that don't scale anymore?
Also, do elemental weapons immediately become useless in NG+

>>150717770
>>150717801
>>150717853

I saw someone else mention this yesterday too: what's the use of Quickstep when you're not 2-handing it anyway? I mean, I might be wrong, but the way I see it you have your Pyromancy Flame in one hand spamming GCFO & Black Serpent and whatnot, and you quickly hit them with Black Flame or your Melee weapon when they roll into you/get too close.

>>150718162

End-game invasions, so SL75-80 max. 35/35 Int/Fai, 24 Att and a bit of Vig. Don't have any other stat points left.

Is doing some fancy ravioli backstabs and other flashy moves--that I assume only looks good on your end--really practical in Souls PvP? Like this, for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPIuPT4M5eQ

Is it something who wants to git gud in PvP should learn?

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And that's it, 3 DMB's and i'm done
Fuck why did i do this
And why the fuck am i thinking of going for a 4th one on my Hexer?

>>150718350
Elemental infusions are only useful for a SL1, for PvE pure physical is objectively better.

What's up with the floor in the greatwood boss area? There is a place under it where clearly people have been before but they couldn't have got there because the floor was not broken. Then again that one guy with the cage brings you to the area even though breaking the floor is the only way in. Is the floor an illusion that was so well made that you can walk on it? What kind of wizard could probably make an illuson that becomes physic-It makes no fucking sense.

>>150718446
a u t i s m

Dark Souls 1
>fastroll had 13 iframes, 11 recovery frames
>25% load or lower

Dark Souls 3
>fastroll has 13 iframes, 11 recovery frames
>70% load or lower
>covers more distance compared to previously
>costs less stamina compared to weapon attacks
>can't be punished by backstabs

Why did they do this?

>>150718453
So far I like elemental because I can have high STR to carry proper shields while also using a spear without gimping myself

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>>150718045
>Also some of the shortcuts are fucking stupid like the crystal lizard one at Farron keep or the ones in the Great Archive. Overused much a little bit?

I think Grand Archives was good because it was based around a single bonfire, but eh, we've got our own opinions.

I liked Grand Archives overall a lot, especially the fact that you can choose to avoid the Gargoyle gangbang, if you choose to take on the Knight.

>Also some of the shortcuts are fucking stupid like the crystal lizard one at Farron keep
The shortcut is kinda stupid because there's no real point to there being a shortcut in the first place because lmao just use a bonfire, right? I'm glad that it's there but it just serves next to no purpose.

DS3's absolute high points for me from the level hub perspective were Road of Sacrifices / Farron Keep / early CoTD because it was the only time in the game where you felt like you had some choice of progress (but you actually didn't).

The levels themselves are FOR THE MOST PART pretty well designed, but some, like Lothric Castle, imo have too many bonfires. They should've not given so many bonfires, especially having a bonfire after every boss was pretty redundant.

>>150717858
>i hate ds3 boss rooms. 90% of them are just big squares
That's true, but then you also had :
>Soul of Cinder
>Deacons
>DS Armour
>Crystal Sage
>Ancient Wyvern

>>150718336
Yeah anon, HA on STR weapons is the only difference between DaS3 and DeS and reintroducing it would certainly change how the game is now.
Feel free to describe how a STR vs. DEX fight would go in three with one side then the other winning

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>>150718471
Secret passage unavailable to the player.

>>150718430
Guy is a mad man.

It might not work on people who can space themselves decently enough as he's playing against pontiff randoms who probably don't know what they're doing.

If you want to get good you'll learn it eventually anyway but there's more important stuff to learn currently.

Who /CHAMP/ here?

>>150718613
S T O P

Pyromancy or hex for DaS2 PvP?

>>150718430
it's only worthwhile because they never fixed the massive vaccuum hitboxes or hyperarmor on backstabs, just added a small startup

it'll never work on someone that rolls twice

>>150718624
the guy is like every other souls youtuber these days, the more buttons he's pressing vs retards, the more likes he gets

>>150718613
I just realised.

That weapon visible there is Gotthards, but the proto version. Dual straight swords, but they sheathed it on the back. Everyone at the time thought this was the 2nd weapon slot visible on the back

Seeing this, gotthards might be one of the first weapons they made in DaS3, or one they playtested alot.

No fucking wonder it's OP fucking bullshit. It's probably Tanimura's weapon.

>>150718613
god damn that looks SO COOL.

Every fucking time they pull this shit.

>>150718430
>videos like this come out as the game is dying
lol

>>150718764
There's one image where the guy has a straighsword right hand and a katana on the back so you might not be exactly right.

>>150718498
Oh no I do like Grand Archives it's just that literally after getting the ladder shortcut if you go a bit further away you can get to the next shortcut, which is even a better one. And it's not like it's a super hard area, especially if you manage to kill the Crystal Sage. But overall I really like it, one of the few areas that reminds me of DS1 design.

>>150718782

>>150718471
Pretty sure the debri kill hodorick, so it ought to be real
>>150718764
The blade on the back seems longer

>>150718498
Those rooms are all fairpy boring, except for DSA throwing you out and Wyvern.
I was really hoping for a Taurus demon like arena.
>have to pay attention not to be shot on the back
>default arena is narrow and benefits the boss but also gives the player a lot of ground
>can climb up for a plunging attack
>can climb up and fight him in a round arena
>if you stay near the ledge he hits you like Asylum
>dodging is easier but you have less room to manuver and heal up there
>you can even trick him into offing himself

It's a completly unremarkable boss that even becomes a default enemy, but it's amazing how much you can use it's boss area. In 3 I guess sometimes I used pillars to block attacks.

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I've never edited a wiki, but perhaps it's time to help out the people involved with the fextralife wiki because this is pretty amateur.

>>150718624
>pontiff randoms
as oppposed to what? some super secret good players only club?

>>150718692
In DaS2, you do it all.

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Post the DaS3 Boss you think to be the most Underrated

Pic related is mine

>Great Soundtrack
>Great entrance
>Great booty
>Fight feels like a dance as opposed to the frantic ass fucking of Pontiff and THE CHAMP
>Still maintains a high degree of difficulty
>Not parryable but IMO parrying THE CHAMP kind of ruined him as a boss for me
>Best arena shift in the game

Plus she's got some preddy tragic lore.

>>150718430
What in the fuck

When your average straight sword spammer learns this shit, it's officially over for STR weapons forever in this game

>>150718943
>fextra

>>150718981
Yeah.

>>150718943
>Doesn't even mention the fireblade ones in cathedral

>>150718943
>weakness:taking hits

>>150719009
after Gwyn I just decided never to try to parry bosses because what's the point of ruining the fun of the fight like that

that said dancer is pretty fun and all if it wasn't for the stuttery frame rate

>>150719010
It's a thing that can be countered.

>>150719062
can I get an invite?

>>150719009
>grabs a second sword from darkness
>spins for 20 billion years
>spins even more
>spins the universe
>you're dead
>"nothing personell... ashen one..."
>*shows you her butt*

I prefer the homo princes thanks.

>>150719009
>parrying THE CHAMP kind of ruined him as a boss for me
i don't understand this. if you feel like you shouldn't do it, why do you do it?

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>>150719009
>Dancer
>underrated
Nah, she's great, but she isn't underrated.

>Best arena shift in the game
Disagree because it doesn't affect the gameplay itself in the slightest.
DSA destroys the sides to the bridge so you can fall off.

>>150718925
Taurus also sometimes memed himself off the ledge. It was funny.

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>>150719009

I think Armour is a pretty underrated boss. Haven't really heard people say that it's their favorite boss. This guy gives me a harder time than Nameless King. Probably the hardest boss for me. Pretty good OST too.

>>150719198
No you're just a random sorry

>>150718430
I can't tell if he's gud or not. Is he?

>>150719009
Her laugh is boner inducing.

https://clyp.it/tnnpxd3z

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>>150718639
>>150718764
>>150718779

>>150719260
Yeah I always get nervous while fighting him. Also NK but NK is plain fucking bullshit.

>>150719260
I just kited him around the fountain on my first fight, 2easy

>>150719260
He was absolute hell for me kept one shoting me in his second phase with the slash after he goes into stance

>>150719296
m-m-muh dick, also fuck you.

>>150719260
Other than meteors of doom he's a straight skill fight in my eyes

>>150719360
I'm hoping this is the DLC still SO BAD

>>150719285
He's absolute shit he's only winning because he's playing against complete retards. Call me when he does that against these players >>150714729

>>150719380
you can even shieldbreak him with the stance WA on SS
>SS
Everything is piss easy with that, apparently.

>>150719380
>he doesn't break the fountain

Missed opportunity.
Also, did they give bosses invisible walls in 3? I tried a lot but couldn't get a Champ/DSA suicide. I know some bosses in BB have it which makes me sad after wasting hours on them.

>>150719478
>you can shield break him with a shield break WA
WOOOOOW

Is Bountiful Sunlight even worth it over Bountiful Light?

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>>150717743
literally why

>>150718430
ravioli ravioli give the secret to the formuoli

seriously do people come up with these skills themselves? how?

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>>150719543
you can break the fountain?
...
...
fug

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In the Gamescom 2015 trailer Ashen One puts a bonfire sword through an Undead, presumably creating a bonfire. Was this intended to be a mechanic they cut somewhere down the line?

>>150719260
hes my favorite fight of all time but because of that it forced me to git gud against him and now hes just fodder

>Dragonslayer ARMOUR
>blood particle effects when you hit it

Okay.

>>150719852
No, I said I was disappointed you couldn't break it

>>150719296
Yeah, damn that's preddy hot. Never heard it on my play throughs.

>>150719009
I kinda felt the Deacon's OST was wasted on how shitty they were. It's so good that, if it were tacked onto a good boss I'd probably put it as my number one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20XREf55X9E

So really it has to go to the Old Demon King. That's fight is hella tragic with how he pretty much dies before you kill him(If you let him). Plus those fire AoE's were ripping me new assholes.

>>150719828
It was known since Ds1

>Invade someone
>Kill them easily
>Invade them again
>They either alt f4 or turn on hacks
"b-b-but dark souls is for h-hardcore gamers g-guys!" fuckin pussies

Aside from the Drakeblood GS and the Darkmoon Spear, is there a buffable weapon with innate magic damage akin to the DSA?

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>>150719930
>you fight and kill lorian/ lothric even if you plan to do what they want and NOT link the fire

>>150719930
>ancient dragon
>hit its toe 500 times
>it dies

>>150720226
>darkmoon spear

What?

>>150720316
he meant Golden Ritual Spear

>>150719930
>aldrich the devourer of gods
>only ate mortals

>>150720316
Ah fuck, meant the Golden Ritual Spear
Described as a gift from Sully to the Darkmoons

>>150719268
no come on give me a chance

>>150720226
lothric UGS

>>150720006
>I kinda felt the Deacon's OST was wasted on how shitty they were. It's so good that, if it were tacked onto a good boss I'd probably put it as my number one.

My jubilant Catarina brother. Deacons is a god tier OST, I'm forever mad because the shit bossfight will never ever do it justice.

>>150719893
They probably realised it was a retarded idea that would either break pve or be completely worthless
>>150719930
Isn't there a butterfly stuck in it?

>>150720401
>magic damage
>LK UGS

Hurr

>>150720401
I'm looking for magic damage anon

>>150720390
i'll give you a chance if you do me some favors

>>150719260
>fuck your frame rate: the arena
>butterfly butt buddies throwing random shit every now and then to break up the intense fight

yeah, no, they blew it
otherwise it would have been great

>>150720462
ok like what

>>150720462
What kind if favors?

>>150720547
>>150720564
>two people interested
now we're getting started

you can contact me later i'll give you info on how to reach me

but essentially i've been looking to find a warm body pillow i can hug at night

if you can't do this forget getting into the invitational fighting club

>>150720671
is this normal procedure?

>people keep summoning red grapes to FC's
Oh boy my BC is seeing some overuse today
I dont want to risk slogging through 2 fights and then meet another passive WP&CCS fag to kill my streak

>>150720472
The flying meatball barrage is indeed plain bad, but the delayed combustion lasers are pretty well implemented desu. They sweep the arena just a bit behind you and before the effect goes off act as area denial for one potential dodge direction. On my SL1 run it was especially tense hearing their distinctive sound while DSA was in stance, advancing to corner me. Works really well together with the additional area hazard caused by the bridge railing getting progressively destroyed, making you pay attention and remain aware of your surroundings.

>>150720846
You forgot about the big black balls of fuck you and your health.

The laser beam was cool and all.

>>150720802
yes it's pretty usual in this line of work that promising people such as yourself have to take one more step if they want to make it

i mean you want to make it right?

then obey my words and we'll get you started quickly

>>150720846
He's not hard, but the fight would have been better without the butterfly shit distracting from it.

I want Heysel to _______

>>150721198
DIEEEEE

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Unrelated to souls but I managed to stay unspoiled on Bioshock, and played it for the first time through the other day. The Andrew Ryan scene was unironically one of the best I've ever seen.

>>150721198
give the succ

>>150721236
>The cool ghost swords are nowhere to be found

Why even live.

>rotten spear and sword
>ancient dragon shield
>sun priestess ring
>low level invasion
>poison shit in like two hits with resin
>they cant remove it without caressing tears because you cant have moss until cathedral
>just regen any trades back up thanks to 4 health per second
>chime WA in right hand for even more regen

this is stupidly fun and the low damage of the rotten weapons means you cant just R1 spam and slay them in three hits

>>150721321
she can't succ her head is stuck inside a giant sock

>>150721198
join dsg FC's

Man, Ludleth is such a neat character.

Any consensus on whether he was the Soulfeeder? He mentions being burned (just like the soulfeeder) when you off him but that could also just be because he linked the flame at some point.

>>150721198
grub my cock

>>150721198
What if Heysel head is already a grub

>>150721794
penis in grub

>>150721836
Call krekov

>>150719740

Please respond. 1 Att slot, 45 FP cost and 420 HP healed against 2 Att slots, 70 FP and 600 HP healed. Tough choice.

Is it a terrible idea to fight the Nameless King with a spear?

>>150722023
>>150719740
yes

>>150722063
no

>>150722023
1 slot for 420/45=9.3...
2 slots for 600/70=8.6

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>>150721685
What if we meet Ludleth in the DLC?
>inb4 he's still a manlet but a really buff one

>>150719740
>>150722023
Both are shit efficiency-wise.

Here are the numbers I got on my high faith character:
Heal Aid: 13.7 HP/FP
Heal: 16.5 HP/FP
Med Heal: 18.4 HP/FP
Great Heal: overhealed me, but more efficient than med Heal if used to full effect
Gentle Prayer: 27.7 HP/FP
Replenishment: 9.8 HP/FP
Bountiful Light: 9.2 HP/FP
Bountiful Sunlight: 8.4 HP/FP

>>150722280
Oh and Soothing Sunlight overhealed me as well. I should respec into a vig gouge at some point to get better numbers

Why is the Gargoyle Flame Spear so [ spoiler]Based[/spoiler]?

>>150722462
it's a spear
it's long

>>150722462
>206/0/180/0/0 D/D/D/D

Reverse backstep spammer are fucking annoying

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For all it's faults, Dark Souls 3 really managed to absolutely capture the atmosphere of the concept art - it really delivered what it promised and I'd say even more.

>>150722153
>>150722224
>>150722280

Hmm, thanks. I think I'll just stick to Bountiful Light, and maybe switch to Bountiful Sunlight if I get a spare Att Slot sometime. Right now I think it's better used for other miracles.

>>150722539
>it really delivered what it promised
:^)

>>150722539
>it really delivered what it promised

>>150722631
>>150722642
DaS2 ButtHurt Defense Squad detected

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>>150722539
>it really delivered what it promised

>>150722631
>>150722642
>>150723304
What are you talking about? It's the best DS

>>150722539
Remember when miyahacki said "if it seems like you can go there, you can go there"? Haha, fun times

>>150722539
>it really delivered what it promised
>I'd say even more

>>150723374
this game was supposed to be the big fucking final. instead we got a huge letdown with 4 different endings. there should only be one ending in which you break the cycle. ds3 might be a good/average souls game on its own but its horrible as an end of a trilogy.

>>150723476
I hated how Scholar sets up the whole "Find a way to end the cycles" thing and then DS3 does nothing with it; even Aldia is only a vague mention at best

>>150723476
That's just your (shitty objectively wrong) opinion

>>150723401
And Lothric or Irithyll alone have more places to explore than all other castle locations in series together.
Lothric Castle is the first castle in series that actually feels like a fucking castle with living quarters, barracks, enormous library and a garden.

>>150723476
Firekeeper ending is the best way to finish the series, what the fuck you're talking about.

>>150723552
The scholar mentioned is the pontiff. But ds2 did nothing to break the cycles, only got you outside of them

>>150723552
DaS3 did more with it than DaS2 did.

>>150723476
>there should only be one ending in which you break the cycle
Eyes rolled out of my head

>>150723594
>living quartes
anor londo, ds1

>invade some guy named "The Waifu"
>katana running R1s and parry spam only
>starts throwing shit and point down emotes
>eventually pulls the plug
lmao

>>150723715
Scholars ending implies the Protag goes on a journey to find a way to break the cycle; never hear from it again

>>150723749
how so, i found fuck all; theres no sense of weight. it feels like the Aldia thing happened and was then promptly swept under the rug
Wich is a shame since he's my favorite NPC alongside Benhart

>>150723476
>there should only be one ending in which you break the cycle.
That's fucking retarded, do you want your choices to be even more limited in a linear as fuck game? You can't break the cycle, that's like stopping entropy. The best you can do is making sure the flame fades so something truly new may arise, which we have an option to do. Also the bullshit in DS2 where the MC could remove himself from the cycle with barely
any explanation makes no sense?

>>150723903
>Scholars ending implies the Protag goes on a journey to find a way to break the cycle; never hear from it again
It implies nothing aside from the fact that he fucked off with crowns after fulfilling his original mission, to cure himself from hollowing.

>>150723903
The DaS3 usurpation ending is the only ending that breaks the cycle in DaS2 or 3.

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uh?...

>>150723984
Its not really a cure though, its a temporary solution; if he takes of the crown he's no longer protected from the curse. That is Vendricks Legacy.

>>150724074
so THIS is the power of the pc...woah..

>>150722539
>it's

Anyone know where I can find what talisman and chime are the best at 30 and 60 Faith?

>>150724090
Well the crowns seems to be glued to his head given that he can roll around with them not falling off so nothing stops him for never taking them off till he dies.

DS2's MC is just a literally who, he's not forced to actually fulfill any mission, he's the only protagonist who seeks personal gain.

>>150723401
But that's actually what happened, except for in Irithyll where you can't walk on the roofs or go inside houses.

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is this the portal to the dlc?

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>>150724425
Nah

>>150723984

His story sounds similar to that of Wolnir. I hope my DS2 dude didn't end up as a skeller because they are very scary

>>150724074
Good to see new londo ruins is canon

>>150724381
We still can explore a shitton of Irithyll compared to city locations of previous souls games.
Though with a few simple explorable houses it would be literally 10/10.

>>150724489
>Invaded by Watchdog of Farron Farron Woods

>>150724601
>50 fps city

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>>150724607
I fucking wish souls games pulled off something as crazy as that.
>enter some giant empty cave
>suddenly invaded by the entire city that comes crashing into our dimension from another time
>all enemies are black phantoms
>city itself tries to kill us

Just came back after a month of being stuck in hell hole

What changed in the shitty game? Is any new shit are now a meme?

is the farron meme sword is finally good?

>>150724802
>What changed in the shitty game?
The Tears of Denial skip was patched.

You may now return to your scheduled program of straight swords and r1s

hold up, reds summoned from red signs suffer the 30% health penalty?

>implying Ornstein is real
>implying we won't fight fire and ice ornsteins next

>>150725123
Only if you get summoned while unembered

>>150725231
oh ok, so the game isn't THAT stupid

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Is there a cancerous new meme I'm not aware of?

Literally every invasion I've had as a Faithful today as been a host + phantoms running away.
And I don't mean running away in a scared way, I mean running away to fuck with invaders, doing laps through the level.

It's fucking annoying because I can't even get these faggots with a rollcatching weapon.

>>150725216
>lightning smelter demon
>bleed smelter demon
>toxic smelter demon the 2nd phase aoe toxics also aaffects him and dies if you kite enough

>>150725643
I just had this too, I invaded and the host spent like 5 minutes running around the map, but I'm pretty sure he was just waiting for a blue to help cause he's a bitch. It did make it more satisfying when I smashed the blue and a mound maker in front of the host, who had already wasted all his heals running around the map.

>>150725643
people are starting to figure out it's very easy to completely avoid taking damage in DS3

>>150724090
>temporary solution
no, there is no indication of the crown's power "running out". but it's not a general cure for the curse, only a personal one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDOrZ9JtLPA
lmao

What's the best starting class for a dex build, K***ht or mercenary?

>>150724367
So
DS1 - The first (?) chosen undead, or at least the first one that gets shit done
DS2 - Greedy cunt that does shit for personal gain
DS3 - idknotplayedityet:^)

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What is it about hatemail that makes me giggley as fuck

>>150726267
DS3 - extinguishes the first flame, finally resetting the dying world, spends the rest of eternity with his firekeeper waifu

>>150726398
isn't that just the same as the dark lord ending then? confused

>>150726484
in the dark lord ending you fucked off from the kiln and some bucko decided it would be funny if they went ahead and linked the fire anyway like a total madman. in ds3, you get to claim the fire so that no one tries some shit

>>150726484
Dark lord just fucks off but leaves the flame untouched, ready to get kindled by other people.
In DS3 he either absorbs it into himself becoming most likely the most powerful being in soulsverse or uses firekeeper to completely extinguish it.

>>150726194
Warrior.
Knight if you want a spell of some kind since he has 10 att

>>150726194
Warrior is best for all melee builds

>>150726616
surely then perma destroying the flame sets the world back into the age of dark? or is there some sort of 3rd state

>>150726746
No, it advances the world into the age of dark, like it was always meant to. There never was an age of dark, first it was ancients, then fire, then it was supposed to hit dark, but Gwyn fucked up everything by feeding himself to the fire.

>>150726746
Age of Dark is only possible because there's an age of fire. Destroying the fire allows the world to naturally reset itself back to primordial state, though firekeeper states that sooner or later it will cause another age of fire.

>>150726746
Yeah we back to archtrees, stone dragons (if they were not all dead lmao) and shit. But after that tiny flames will appear once again and a truly new cycle will begin, hopefully with no jerkasses like Gwyn and the Pygmy this time.

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>>150724489
Is this the cyber souls everyone's talking about?

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>>150727060
Maybe

>>150727008
>inb4 Ashen One and Firekeeper survive long enough to see the new age of fire and stop it from being mistreated like last time

>>150726916
so what actually is the age of dark? just humans wandering about doing normal shit or..

>>150726917
>it will cause another age of fire.
yeah no

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The duration of Perseverance is much like my penis. It's so short that you can't fucking feel it.

>>150727128
>But one day, tiny flames will dance across the darkness. Like embers, linked by lords past.

>>150727118
Oolacile.

So with all the texture mods we got lately (crabs,shrek, nic cage...) has anyone actually done something serious with them?

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>>150726398
Ashen one, hearest thou my voice still?

>>150727118
Humanity coming into their own, ruling the world basically forever. At least that's my interpretation, Dark Souls lore can be taken a lot of ways. I imagine it'd be a lot like Londor, since Londor is the place trying to make the age of dark happen.

>>150727187
well that's no good
don't fucking blame gwyn desu

>>150726338
It's probably that you enjoy being an annoying cunt

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>>150727213
>you will never spend an eternity together with her, watching the world being reborn

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>>150727365
Haha yeah. Its pretty awesome

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>>150727143
DS3 is like my sex life
>machine is too shit to connect to others reliably
>even when I get someone to play with I lose connection before anything happens
>have to play against simulated opponents

>>150727261
Well, it's a lot fucking better than the sun melting out of the sky. Besides, I think Oolacile only turned out that way because of humanity meshing with the age of fire, with just humanity it may not be so bad.

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>>150727094
hey I had that too

>>150727241
>Humanity coming into their own, ruling the world basically forever.
Nah, nothing last forever. New flames will still arise after the last one had been snuffed out.

>>150727143
>>150727456
Some of the most relatable posts ever made in /dsg/

>>150727524
That only happened because of what Gwyn did, once that's canceled out it may never happen again. But I guess we'd need to know more about the first flame and how it started to say for sure.

>>150727187
end this meme. oolacile is representative of the age of dark as much as izalith is representative of the age of fire

>lightwieght katana build for PVP
>playstyle basically depends on stunning people mid swing
>sometimes it does, other times it dosen't
How do I get a better sense of when stunning works, and when it's time to go full crossbow?

how do you beat passive as fuck curved sword r1 spam?

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>>150727456
Same.
>always lead the charge
>dominate any invader
>constant gesture flirt with females
>phantoms even hosts end up following me after i go on a rampage in their world

>>150727656
see
>>150727174
The cycles are a natural state of being, Gwyn's fuckery has nothing to do with it.
>>150727702
>Izalith
You mean Anor Londo?

>>150727748
halberds
>>150727826
and then you woke up
>>150727849
izalith. chaos is rampart fire like abyss is rampart humanity. both places fucked up and are not represantative of fire or dark

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Today I killed
>Ornstein (FUCKING)
>Smough (FINALLY)
>Lautrec
>Petrus (Mostly because he seemed to be susp as FUCK when I got back to firelink, and I don't need his miracles anyway because Pyromancy is infinitely cooler from what I've played about with.)

All in all, it's been a good day.

>>150727241

AGE OF DARK IS BLOODBORNE

THAT'S WHY THERE'S GUNS AND SHIT BECAUSE IT'S IN THE FUTURE

SCREENSHOT THIS

YOU KNOW IT'S REAL

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>>150727927
>and then you woke up
on your girls bed lmao

Is there any reason why Ornstein's helmet in DS3 doesn't have a plume?

>>150728082
jokes on you, im single. you woke up on something that doesn't exist and now float into nothingness for a few minutes before your brain starves of oxygen and you die. choose your words better next time ;)

>>150728334
laziness

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>>150728334
Because it isn't a plume, it's Ornstein's hair.

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>>150728383
so bossy bb

Prisoner's chain worth it at SL20 for invasions?

>>150728657
2bh only if you need the VIT

>>150728657
10000%

>>150728657
I'd say so. Can't say no to the extra stats

>>150728841
but you can say no to taking 10% extra damage
so basically the health and the extra damage nullify eachother, and you're left with 5 extra VIT and END, which isn't that substantial unless you need the extra VIT to stay below 70%

>>150728907
>10 extra stats isn't a big deal at level 20

>>150728907
Ur a dummy

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What's the really shit section in each game that you don't want to play through at all when you're thinking of starting a new playthrough? Mine :

>Demon's Souls :
StoneFang Tunnel, Mines and Dragon God.

>Dark Souls 1
Demon Ruins and Izalith

>Dark Souls 2
Shrine of Amana and Undead Crypt

>Dark Souls 3
It's hard to say, really. I don't think any of the areas are shit individually, but it feels like there aren't any particular real high points either. I mean, I guess it's good that the level design is consistently good instead of having completely shitty levels in it, but every playthrough flows similarly except with a different build.

>>150728986
like I said, the VIT isn't relevant unless you need it and 5 endurance damn son 10 extra stamina that's worth a ring slot?

there are so many useful rings to use at that level

>>150728907
I've said it to higher level characters before

>>150728657

10000000%.

>>150728907
>so basically the health and the extra damage nullify eachother
This isn't even true unless you're VIG gouging so hard you go way over 27. And the guy's talking about SL20.

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>>150728416
I DON'T GIVE A GODDAMN FUCK ABOUT WETHER IT'S HIS PLUME OR HIS HAIR THIS HELMET LOOKS LIKE COMPLETE GARBAGE WITHOUT IT AND BASICALLY RUINS THE ENTIRE SET DON'T YOU COME AT ME LIKE THAT WITH THOSE SASSY EXCUSES I JUST WANT A RED PLUMEHAIR OR WHATEVER THE FUCK THIS THING IS BUT INSTEAD WE GOT THIS COPY PASTED SHENANIGANS FOR SOME REASON

>>150729071
Farron swamp and cathedral for me
Even though you can do them pretty quick they drain my will to play

>>150729071
Izalith for ds1, sinner's rise for ds2. Ironically, the area bosses are connected lorewise

>>150719127
Lost

what is a good 60 faith weapon?

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>>150729259

>watch some "competitive" FC in DaS1
>everyone is turtling and fishing for backstabs

Jesus Christ how can people play this

>>150729071
>Demon's Souls
probably 5-1, atleast it was until i found out you can skip most of it
>Dark Souls 1
the area between taurus and gargoyles. also archives
>Dark Souls 2
nu males wharf
everything from huntsman until iron keep
>Dark Souls 3
Settlement
Farron Keep
Catacombs
Cathedral of the Deep (outdoor area)
demon ruins
archdragon peak

>>150728416
Then just make the plume whatever the players hair color is.

But this is probably too hard for From to make, I mean pc games from 2004 could do it. From needs another console generation to catch up.

>>150729404
Lightning DSA or LGS. I hear good talk about dmb/lb saint's bident

>>150729404
Raw Dragonslayer's Axe with LB
I somehow have a decent damage Blessed Longsword(304) for regenerator build purposes

How do I stop myself from getting two-shotted by ultra weapons during invasions

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>>150729624
kek

>>150729624
stop getting hit by ultra weapons lmao

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>>150729624
>getting hit by the slowest weapon type in the game

>>150729624
More Vig, my Nig

>>150729624
Wow great weapons are too powerful they should be nerfed

t. Miyazaki

>>150729071
>DaS1
Demon Ruins, New Londo, maybe Archives.

>DaS2
I guess I really don't want to play through Brume Tower and Frozen Outskirts again. Besides that, I never had a problem with any part of the game since shields and bows exist.

I haven't played the other games.

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Any weapon recommendations for a faith build?

>>150730036
Raw dragonslayer axe

>>150729624
>wait until they start the attack
>take a step and roll
>attack/backstab them, you should know if you can break their poise or not

>>150727928

>server

kek

>>150730036
raw ass
buffed longsword
lightning dark sword

Ask someone to drop Wolnir's for you at the beggining, it's basically a worse claymore but it's fun to play with. You can have the saint bident as backup weapon.

Forget Morne's, it's a NG+ weapon because it weights a ton and requires too much to use.

You have 10 seconds to post a memorable zone/area from DaS3

Go

>>150730036
Dragonslayer's Axe(raw with LB)
Saints Bident(Heavy/Refined with buff)
LKGS(Refined with LB)

>>150730178
irithyll, easily
though it has a good share of memorable places in general

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Why are soft caps even a thing? They do nothing but encourage quality builds