Dota 2 General - /d2g/

First for 0-6

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>>150703363
>siractionslacks wins a ti before rtc
APOLOGIZE

So how many slots do you guys think euros deserve?

>>150703438
0

DC outta nowhere

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>>150703363
So who's still on the bench waiting to shine?

What heroes have yet to be picked?

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R I P
I
P

Helo does Korea stand a chance?

I don't even watch dota

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MOMMY
I
L
K

>the worst team in the whole entire tournament is a yurocuck team (escape gaming)

Explain yourselves yurocucks

>EU teams are bad now because they have NA players
The bulls are infertile

>>150703429
>mfw he said DC's games weren't worth watching because they'd actually win them all

>You live in a world where SirActionsSlacks has a better chance of winning TI6 than RTZ

>You also live in a world where Team Secret will go home before Alliance

GOD HELP ME!
SOME
CHRISTIAN
DEITY
SAVE ME!!!

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I NEED to BREED Auroth.

How long until Eternal shitters quits pro dota?

>>150703479
dude 1-1 LMAO
in bo3 they have a chance

>>150703438
only enough for the NA-inclusive teams to get in- the EU-only teams are known to be garbage

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>yurop

>>150703508
Reminder that he was sick during games the next day after this photo, for mysterious reasons that couldn't possibly have been his fault

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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW think that puppey is not the biggest hack in the scene

>>150703482
solid 8.5

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EUROS GETTING DOMINATED BY CHINKS AND AMERICANS HAHAAHAHAHAHAH FUCK

okay I'll stop shitposting for a minute because I feel really bad seeing how Secret lost all of their games today. man i wouldn't wish that on any team desu.

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>Secret lost 0-2 to Fnatic
g-g-uys?

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reminder

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APOLOGIZE

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>Secret will lose a game tomorrow
>They will go to lower bracket
>They will get knocked out in the BO1s

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we have to go back..........

>>150703586
holy shit the puppey face into rtz's body looks exacly like sonneiko

>Secret went through yurop qualifiers, making them yurocucks
>DC went through NA qualifiers, making them gods gift to the earth

Welp, glad that's settled then

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Reminder that if Secret is NA then CoL was EU

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>>150703613
Is there any team that tilts so hard?
>doing well
>lose one game
>lose six more in a row

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>mfw 0-6
How are you girls all holding in there? It's not over till its over

>>150703508
Absolutely haram.

>>150703630
There is only one team with majority NA in the top 4 :v)

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>>150703363

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>the more EU players "NA" team has the better they are
>the more NA players "EU" team has the shittier they are

Really makes you think....

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>>150703363
post yfw your captain drafts you Kunkka

I'll start.

>>150703670
Rtz face onto puppey body looks like reynad.

>>150703636
this desu

>>150703721
what ever you need to sleep at night bro

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SECRET WILL WIN TI6
FUCK OFF STUPID FAT BURGER SHILLS REEEEEEEEEE

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nyx nyx nyx

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post sheever webm that got deletes last thread

>>150703482
is she actually a mom?

Reminder that SIRACTIONSLACKS is on a team that's top 2 in their group.

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mmm yesss get fucked Secret

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>falling for the honeypot stages

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honestly what went wrong?

they didn't come here with one single strategy right?

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>>150703705
I'm trying so hard to keep up with all the shitposting.

It's not over yet. Miracles are real. Secret still has a chance to come back.

Crazier things have happened.

So now that Secret is done for, here's what's gonna happen after both Liquid and Secret fluke out of TI6:

Secret
EE, pieliedie and Bulba out
KuroKy, Jerax and Matumbaman in

>>150703839
anon dont you remember what happened at DAC?

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>tfw 8am
>14h of dota

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96/110 heroes picked so far, 94 in group stage.

>>150703301
>>150703409
This. TI4 EG was team that could win. Third place at TI in most of those players first TI is a fucking amazing feat especially when Zai and RTZ were pretty young then. They lose some honeypot tier shit and RTZ leaves before DAC taking Zai with him. Then they lose DAC, but this is a good time to stay with a lineup and then win LANs afterwards but lose the big one again

Then PPD kicks a winner to get RTZ back in, even if it requires Fear to go support. This team does third place again, top 3 Frankfurt top 3 Shanghai but otherside of those tournaments also get BTFO 2-0 or 3-0 in other tournaments late into the tournament by the same teams. Its a team that can be consistent, a team that can win again, but RTZ leaves and takes Universe with him. Then both New EG and New Secret can't win shit, flop out of the tournaments pre-Manila and flop at Manila.

RTZ says one thing and then does anyone. He came back to EG to work through any problems they had and then he leaves again.

>>150703630
Proof that yurop is reddit: the continent

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>>150703508
R E D D I T
E
D
D
I
T

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>>150703839
H O N E Y P O T M A J O R S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUiFjh4fmzo&t=2m20s

Remember when Secret had a mid that could carry EE's retarded ass?

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So we have to come to two seemingly incompatible conclusions here tonight:
>The EU SCENE is the worst scene
>The NA PLAYERS are the worst players

>>150703705
>girls

i dont even like arteezy and im glad he is gonna get fucked again but blaming him is stupid, you just cant play with bulba and eternalenvy and expect to do good

i dont understand how dumb he was to think leaving EG for secret was a good idea, this and the previous incarnation of secret are weaker than ti5 secret in every single aspect, why would anyone expect them to win?

Secret with w33 and misery had some kind of dumb luck that made it work but this new secret is jus trash

>>150703721
>one team
>EG
>OG
>DC
>Newbee

lol?

>motherfucking EHOME destroying everyone

Probably the best story for TI champs.

OK. Not sleeping for a few more hours, so recommend me a serie to watch from today. I've watched the Navi and MVP series

I want flashy teamfights if possible, no boring naga 60 minute shit (unless the naga get buttfucked)

>>150703891
Necro, Omni, Tree, Lina and Jakiro will deffo get picked at some stage

>>150703876
>rtz and kuro on the same team again
goodluck

>>150703839
Their only strategy is Huskar cheese

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reminder

>>150703872
kys

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pls no meme/shitposting, but seriously, how do we fix Team Secret

>>150703876

liquid got 2 freewins tomorrow. they are going to be at upper bracket

>>150703793
THIS.

>>150703630
>ESC beat all the other teams in euro qualifiers
>they go 1-9 doing worse than fucking sea
>reddit wants teams that couldn't beat esc to be invited

lmao

>>150703947
>Calling a skillful play and strategy 'dumb luck'

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>silver old-chicken and fenrir on my fantasy team today

>>150703989
their only WORKING strategy
don't forget drow cheese
tb cheese
and my favorite, al "pinata" chemist cheese

>>150704006
Kick EE

>>150704006
Replace Puppey, EE, RTC

>>150703797
Nah, teacher with a pet lizard, so womb is probably barren

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Weather status?

>>150704006
kick rtz
hire smash

>>150703947
the only reason secret is trash right now is EE
he literally fed all 6 games they played, was a complete deadweight and was the ONLY reason they had to play defensive for 40 minutes in that last DC game, as he forced a fight in the top lane
also his leaps into fights were top lels

>>150703876
PLD is not leaving, he is the most consistent player on that team.

I honestly think they will get some people from the CIS shuffle. I hope PPD doesn't fall for the meme again and Fear goes on to coach while RTZ plays carry.

>>150703891
EG 100% will pick Treant
Omni might be a 5th pick by Secret, they are the only team I think that would try to do that
Alliance could do Jakiro
Alot of teams could do Gyro
Newbee would do Chuan Lina

Everyone else is literally unpickable
>Drow is meta
>Visage is shit
Are we waiting for that one team to pick Visage with Drow and blow everyone's mind again?

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>>150703942
It's my preferred gender pronoun actually.

>>150703630
oh wait I see it now, the NA teams are universally placing higher than the EU teams, which indicates to the moron that made that reddit post that the EU region isn't as good as they want us to believe

>Terrorblade went from good shit hero pre TI to lose game hero at TI

>>150703876
>Artour and Kuro in the same team

HAHAHAHAHA

>>150704006
Remove Artour
Acquire SingSing
Remove Bulba
Acquire bOne7

>win majors
>kick 2 of your best players because you can't circlejerk enough with them
>lose everything

KEK

>>150704078
Are you cute?

>>150703967
OG Wings

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Wait, is Secret NA or EU?

reminder that EU is reddit and NA is /d2g/

>Secret have to win all 4 games tomorrow to get into tiebreakers
>Think they can do it against NB and Liquid
>Remember they lost 2-0 to fnatic

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STOP

BULLYING

TEAM SECRET

>>150704105
>>150703986
>they think artour and kuroky hate each other

>>150704006
kick EE
worthless trash

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>>150704006
kick ee
beg Cloud 9 to invest in dota again
reform ti4 squad

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POST SHEEVER WEBMS.

>>150703898
oh thank god someone else saw that
I thought I was going crazy

>>150704106
>Acquire bOne7
stop reading there

>>150704116
Why do you care?

>>150704106
>no meme/shitposting

i dont think you understand what that means

>>150704136
Secret is an NA team that won the EU qualifiers, right now it's not looking like they would have one through the NA quals.

>>150704136
It depends
Are they winning?
>EU
Are they losing?
>NA
Right now they're NA as hell

>>150704192
Just thought you might be.

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>>150704069

H O T
O
T

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Never forget.

>>150704006
remove arteezy

people always say he's a good player but who fucking cares his shitty attitude kills any team he's in

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its not secret losing every game that hurts, its how the matches played out that are heart breaking.

theres a lot of boring panelist shit like "oh this garbage ass team should have won this game or whatever" but Secret really shouldve fucking won some of those games. They were grinded out so painfully past the hour mark with RTZ trying to desperately to split push into the base but could never crack the towers. No matter what they did and how long RTZ tried to extend the game and chip the enemy team down they just couldnt.

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>>150704078
>secret fans are trannies

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guys I'm starting to think that EE might actually be the problem

>>150704136
Depends if you count T*rkey as EU

>>150704092
>naga went from irrelevant hero pre TI to frequently picked at TI
???

>>150704136
Americucks were going hard with the "NA bulls" meme so they are forever a designated NA team.

>>150704247
The last game vs. DC Misery outdrafted whoever was drafting for Secret.
Thought it was clear.

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>everyone saying kicking EE is the solution to fixing Secret
>not including to kick their biggest problem

reminder that j33had is one of the most underrated players right now.

>>150703471
Visage, Lina, Veno, CM, Techies

>>150704073
>fed all 6 games they played

I don't think so Artour

>>150704273
it's a mixture of EE being retarded and Arteezy dragging down team morale

>>150703991
kys leddit

>>150704006
rtz is still kinda ok
EE can only play braindead hero

>>150704273
EE was always the problem
rtc compounded it

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>>150704075
EG could easily deploy Treant, Omniknight or Necrophos going forward.

Obsidian Destroyer has seen a game or two recently, so he's also not out of teh question.

>never forget old man fear outricing antimage with necrophos.

>>150704006
Kick EE, and honestly just let Bulba stay because they won't get anyone better than him unless they get a player to leave an existing team

EE is a replaceable person. RTZ plays everything he does, but better, and without needing to fuck up drafts

>>150704232
Secret are bottom 4.

You just CAN'T lose to team like Fnatic at this stage if you want to be top8 team

>>150704152
I literally just went to dota 2 reddit for the first time in my life, and can confirm that it is full of salty yurocucks right now

so who does Secret face in lower bracket?
it's LGD or Na'Vi right? Seems like they're fucked either way

>>150704128
Alright, on it

PERU NEEDS TO BE NUKED

>>150704273
Don't be sad. EE was simply not made for post 6.81 Dota.

>iceiceice, and lanm might finally win a TI
>all you assholes talking about how shit secret is

Disappointed desu

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>>150704136

>all gold and silver cards with good stats are for escape, fnatic and execration

Kill me

>>150703363
puppy's teams always do poorly in groups, at least as far back as i can remember. hes always used groups as an excuse to try weird shit and throw people off, and holds strats for the main event. its quite literally his MO.

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>>150704164
>>150703793
>>150704015

>>150704423
In a Bo1

>LGD will have to play Bo1s
RIP Xiao8, I hope you get to Bo3s

>>150704473
DAC

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R A T E
A
T
E

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>>150704269
So?

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>>150704380
Jakiro also fits in push strats, and there's been a spattering of Sniper picks recently.

Not counting AW because he's not in CM, we'll probably see all but 5 or 6 heroes picked before the end of the tournament.

>>150704487
LGD won't go far. Any chance they had to place top 3 or win TI was dead when they had to play with fucking Banana

God the last year's throw from Maybe and MMY still hurts

>>150704473

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2013/Prelims

They also almost won TI3 and only choked at the last second

>>150704473
>>150704520
TI5
2nd in their group, lose 2 BO3s and they are out

Is there a chance Secret will just drop out right now and disband? Not even try the LB

>>150704581
Why would you give up free money

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WHERE DID IT ALL GO SO WRONG

>>150704449
This. EE has been shit ever since rubber band was introduced. He can no longer rice race his way out of his poor decision making.

MadMan Idea:

Sniper ulti works like stifling dagger

But also has the magic damage

>>150704473
>He doesnt know the origin of SWNL

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>>150704581
Are you fucking retarded

Holy fucking shit

Either you are legitimate redditor newfaggot idiot or great baiter

>>150704552
LGD looked good Day 1 and Banana won TI4

although that is partly because VG cheesed out all the western teams and ROTK couldn't stop picking Venomancer in the finals

>>150704581
None. 100k for 13-16th. 9-12th is 300k. For a team that doesnt win

>>150704581

Winning one BO1 in the lower bracket triples the prize pool

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Secret will never win

>>150704552
This year they have Agressif choking like a shitter, Maybe having to carry this team then suddenly Xiao8 drafts him a hero like Tide

where can I watche the matches for tomorrow?

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>>150704541
I honestly miss Fear in the one slot. The Old Man was the rock that they always needed, no flashy plays, but no fuckups. He got farmed, he carried.

That stability was something they lost when Arteezy came back, and honestly ATZ seems to be the kiss of dramatic death where ever he goes. He jumps ship faster then anyone too.

So aside from actual skill, what makes MVP the most fun team to watch?

When MVP is playing I barely can watch any other team play, MVP's games are always so fun and they never disappoint

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in past TIs, which team did you wish won a TI but never did? for me it has to be DK's squad in TI4

>>150704674
Banana won TI4 because at that time, yes he played good and yes VG was easy opponent for NB.

But post-TI Banana was utter garbage

>>150704703
Jesus, watching Aggressif do his insane feeds is heartbreaking. He plays like a fucking moron. Even worse than Banana desu.

>>150704719
They pick stupid pubshit and never stop fighting but only after they throw one game by trying to be meta or something

Oh god guys I just remembered. Pit Lord is coming in just a few days.

>>150704641
Sniper aghs Idea

>assassinate cannot be disjointed

>>150704719
>most fun team to watch
>not og
have you not been paying attention to the games at all?

>>150704743
TI3 Orange
TI4 EG

>>150704713
nigga fear was never going to carry anyways

>>150704806
I don't see how Valve introduce him. I would like 5v5 ARDM where its scripted that Pit Lord is in the middle of the pack. It might happen like Techies though if they do 10v10 just for the 10 man Dark Rift

>>150704128
Motherfucker, thats a Maut game.

Better be fuckign good

>>150704743
TI2 LGD or IG (thank fuck sla'vi imploded at the grand finals)
TI3 TongFu
TI4 DK
TI5 CDEC
for current TI: EHOME
and no i'm not godz

>>150704863
... they won a TI with fear in the 1 position.

>>150704828
they are just bad though
:3c

>>150704897
chink pls kill urself

>>150704719
The crazy flips + Classic Jimmy has been the most fun team to watch so far. They play all out with heart and are always aggressive like classic Navi

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>>150704806
>someone out there probably does honestly believe this

>>150704743
TI4 EG. That team was fun to watch, the threads were fun, and they got fucked by VG cheesing them out the same strat VG was constantly running. Greedy draft fucked them, because I could see EG putting up a fight versus Newbee while VG flopped with audible groans when VG kept trying to memepush Newbee with Veno picks.

>>150703947
>player changes teams more often than i change my underwear
>fangays still blame his team every time he fails

i remember thoorin made a video about this arteezy problem

>>150704972
Real talk.

If EG wins TI6, will /d2g/ EVER recover?

>>150704904
only because of the neckpillow savant s-god, senpai

>>150704972

>Everyone doubted PPD letting RTZ back into EG
>Didn't realize it was a part of his ritual to win another TI

>>150704994
>EG
>ever fun to watch.
yank pls kill urself

>>150703738
Tender loving is required

>>150705016
>recover

/d2g/ will become 5x better with all the euros offing themselves

it will be glorious

>>150704273
It sort of is, but it's mostly Puppey's fault for letting EE and Arteezy play backseat captain. Both those retards are mechanically skilled but they have shit decision making. Puppey needs to put his foot down and make all the decision making. If someone doesn't like it or tries to give their input, tell them to shut the fuck.

>>150705016
No. If a team/region wins 2 TIs, much less wins them in a row, they are untouchable.

If OG wins TI6 they are also untouchable, because winning 2 of 3 Majors and TI6 is pretty fucking insane too. Based on groups, both teams could win

>>150705016
the"muh honeypot ecks dee" meme would be elevated to unbelievable degree
letting yuros win 2 major only to snatch the only thing that matters twice

>>150705016
>continued USA USA USA shitposting and yurocuck butthurt
sounds like present /d2g/

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will this be his last TI? team secret will boot him and he wont get in another team right?

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>>150704994
>TI4 EG

>>150705024
... he out riced burning antimage on necrophos.

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How to fix EE ?

>>150705016
If one TI is 120k USAs, how many will we get from consecutive TIs?

>>150705137
nah EE has the power of nepotism, he's in the old boys club so he'll always weasel his way onto some shit team because he's friends with people

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>EG will win TI.
>They will just suck and feed for another year.
>Everyone will think of them as dota gods for winning one tournament in 12 months

kill me

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>>150705061
>american team
>two muslims and a swede (aka 3 muslims)

thats not my america

>>150705187
fuck off /pol/

>>150705137
singstack probably will make some room for him

>>150705141
They lost before that. They lost on draft because PPD apparently couldn't sniff out that VG was just going to try pushing again

When we had that Shadow Shaman pick in the regionals I think, I was getting flash backs to TI2 memepush and hope we don't get there again

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>>150705137
>plays dota 24/7
>reached his peak
>everyone else is naturally getting better than him
>they understand dota is more about communicating than muh mechanics
>is an autist

LMFAO1!1111

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PPD has a pact with Kek to sacrifice RTZ upon the altar of lower 8 finishes in order to guarantee TI wins. He can't keep getting away with this.

>>150705187
universe isn't a muslim

>>150704473
>try weird shit

Yeah because spamming Kunkka and Huskar was really mixing things up.

>>150705187
>Indian from Wisconsin
>Muslim

>day 2 of the group stage
>euros so BTFO they have to resort to /int/posting to be relevant
Fuck that happened quick this year

>>150705272
what is he?

>>150705171
Make him give up anime.

>>150705301
>implying.
Were you here during Summit and SL? Every time the hours skipped into American power hours the thread became /int/ shitpost central.

Every single time.

I remember

>>150705314
syrian

>>150705314
he's ethnically indian so probably hindu

>>150705024
Don't you mean S-Allah, infidel

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D2G HELP WHAT CHAMPION DO I PICK

>>150704153
No tiebreakers. Head to head, then seeding, the coin toss.

>>150704484
DELET THIS

>>150705407
magellan

>>150705407
Fucking kill yourself

>>150704409
You gotta remember though, this is the Fnatic that 2-0ed EG, Newbee, Liquid, Secret once or more than once for the past year during the majors and premier tournaments.
No clue why they're shit now, but the ability is there. Underestimating them is a terrible thing.

>>150705030
Damn straight they were fun to watch. First team to perfect offlane Void and mid Naga, often drafted different shit while managing to outplay teams like Navi and DK, and made the entire EU region their fuckboys.

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>>150703793
>>150704015
Which one you want fäm

they need to put RTZ to mid and make him babysit EE
thats the only way they can win
EE is on top 3 carry but only when he is completely babysitted like W33 used to do otherwise he is one of the worst

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Today was a good day.

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>>150705438
where are last thread webms reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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>the #1 teams in group A and group B are open qualifier teams

anyone have a list of what they've released each year at TI? TI2 was basically the release of the game proper, i can't remember what they did for TI3, TI4 was techies and TI5 was 10v10, right?

if not pitlord, what can they even release this year? another game mode wouldn't make much since given that we have the map editor now.

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>>150705016
EG won TI5 and nothing honestly changed except a slight increase in Sheever posting for some reason

They'll win TI6, USA will be spammed for a week, and then we'll forget about it all during the roster shuffle drama

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>>150705484
>>150705512

>>150705557
consider buying rope and chair.

only time EG was fun to watch was SADBOYS era

They can win, they win, they're a good - even great team - but by no imagination can you call them fun to watch.

in my opinion.

>>150705560
both pls kind sir

>>150704819
nice goyim

>>150705301
>implying the internationals are not simply the eurovision song contests with dota

It has always been that way. The whole idea of "union" and diversity in the eurozone has been hypocritical bullshit from the beginning.

>>150705560
POST THEM

>>150705804
upload them they are too long

>>150705392
India has loads of muslims, the idea that they're Hindu comes from their governing structure but doesn't represent the population.

>>150705625
CDEC effect

No one takes the underdogs seriously and those guys are usually the come-recently pubstars that know how to abuse the current meta.

>>150705635
they release new heroes when we force them to with nagging. i think the reason they halted hero development the moment they took over is to make the game more approachable to casual players - the more the heroes, the harder it is for a new player to join.

Actually designing a new hero in itself isn't that difficult, you have thousands of autists in community who would do it for free.

>>150705879
If you're going by pure census number then India also has large christian and Jewish populations.

>>150705882
yeah thats what is happening. nobody took EG and Ehome seriously.
/s

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>mfw big dick Lamn winning ti6

>>150705418
There are tiebreakers if upper and lower divider can't be separated

>>150705668
>EG were never fun to watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gesmY5eAMHA

You keep telling yourself this, seamonkey.

>>150705635
They'll 100% release pit lord this year
TI4 techies was more of a preview, it took them like 2 more months until it was released proper
Post TI3 is the "beta is over" release of the game, before that we had heroes added somewhat frequently plus events like greeviling and diretide

>>150705980
>Ehome
>underdog
Kys

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>this is all you need to have to be invited to cast at TI6
Nahaz was cheated

>>150705687
>>150705804
Anon go to sleep its late

>biggest tournament of the year for doturds
>can't even get 10k views on twitch
>general is fucking dead

umm dotards??

>>150705890
>>150705635

I actually prefer the glacial pace of new heroes; it avoids the power creep you see in Lesbians of Leagumes.

Besides, I can never learn a new patch quick enough before the next one let alone the introduction of a brand new hero.

>>150706075
THICC

8.5/10

>>150706056
exactly my point. the current group leaders arent underdogs.

>>150705635
20v20 dota with 5 lanes

>>150705625
It kinda says wonders for the scene, but at the same time these players are known and teams know them well. Its just that open qualifiers might as well not exist when a full team of professionals go through it.

I am glad teams have the balls to say "we won't win TI, make adjustments" and go through opens.
>>150705635
>>150706014
Pit Lord was in the files since sometime last year, even an early model when Reborn was out, and is basically 100% guaranteed this year. Not sure if they will reveal him at TI or just save him for an eventual event around Diretide time.

With them cutting out a Major, they can actually have a game event. Maybe.

sorry, newfag. what's with the honeypot meme that keeps getting posted?

>>150706080
In-game for the Secret v DC game peaked at 120k.
With in-game, you get drops. In twitch, you get the memes. Don't know which one is better though.

>>150706081
>glacial pace of new heroes


there is no pace. new heroes were only made in dota1. it's just a pure halt since valve took over.

>>150705646
and anime posts will always be the most puerile and cancerous things in the general

What happened in that second secret game? DC was getting stomped early and I stopped watching because my net went out.

>>150705650
I hope the developer spruces up the map, its fucking ugly and Source 2's terrain editor is super easy to make good looking maps with.

then hire someone to do proper character models via kickstarter or patron

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Can Secret 2-0 both Newbee and Liquid?

>>150706230
Woah there, back to lurking

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>>150706281
they got 0-2'd by fucking fnatic

what do you think

>>150706258
fEEd choked as usual

>>150706230
all tournaments other than TI are not worth winning because you probably revealed your pocket strats in them and you're definitely being studied afterwards

the sad thing is, it's partially true

Reminder that Secret have been chocking non-stop ever since Dubu got that bash on Envy that stopped his tp in the river. They literally got 17% into oblivion.

>>150706258
fEEd got exposed as a one trick pony.

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>>150706281

>>150705635
release more events like diretide and frostivus

>>150706281
rtz was left. i dont think they can 2-0 liquid

>>150705890
>>150706081

they want to balance everything as much as possible before they start making actually new heroes. each TI has seen more heroes picked/banned, proving that they are, at least slowly, getting there.

i'm genuinely curious to know if snowtoad is gonna drop them in allstars before reborn when they actually start making new ones.

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>>150706281

no you autist

their run ends at the BO1s in lower bracket

>>150706235
I'd use the /d2g/ chat channel if I didn't get AIDS from it in 2014 from the spammers

>>150706281
0-6 today
I honestly would be surprised if they could get draws from either of those teams and its not even funny when we have to think Secret could go on an 11 game losing streak

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>>150706230

>>150706236
Didn't arc warden come out in 2012 in Dota all-stars?

>>150704325

THis! Puppey is garbage and it needs to be said.

Puppey just isn't very effective at the game or drafting anymore. He doesn't understand scaling cores, he keeps drafting the same shit that doesn't work, he thinks one carry in RTZ is enough.

He can't even guide EE into doing proper shit. So many times EE was farming instead of taking fights with their gold lead. That's a call a good captain has to make.
In game skill he is not one of the best either.

>>150706414
but wc3 dota is ded

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>every team I join goes to shit
>when I leave them they win a TI or Major
>team ooga...me..booga?

>>150706336
Last year Fnatic was no. 5 in the world. Just because they're doing shit now doesn't mean they're shit players. It was bound to happen that they would actually start showing up and put a beatdown on a team. Just unlucky for Secret.

>>150706414
Playdota has 6.83d, I don't think Icefrog gives a shit anymore.

>>150706414
>they want to balance everything as much as possible before they start making actually new heroes


That's just... no. You are just completely wrong.

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So Fnatic is the bane of team secret?

>>150706490
Yup.

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Version_6.75

Assuming Pit Lord gets revealed this International, it will have taken them 6 fucking years just to reach parity with Allstars.

>>150706414
dota 2 has mechanics that wc3 can't handle

I forgot what they were but yeah

>>150706497

EE is a retard who said he would ignore puppeys calls if he thinks they were the wrong one.

>>150706578
well regardless of their reasoning, the game is more balanced now than its ever been, and the consistently higher rates of hero picking/banning is proof of this.

at the very least, it is absolutely true that each TI has seen more heroes being played. you can't argue that.

>>150706589
nah they got figured out after day 1 groupstage

>>150705407
Orihime is strong once she's farmed up.

Otherwise get Usopp, that impact dial is very handy once the enemy uses a very strong skill.

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>>150706589
BANE?

>>150706236
and yet we've managed to use the vast majority of the hero pool in this tournament.

Leagues revolving door champion mill and certainly3 skill homogenization keeps the competitive tournament pool to a laughable size.

>>150706545
>>150706336
Fnatic was also top6 Shanghai and Manila, 3/4th at ESL Manila and 3rd Starladder
Every team outside of Escape is a team of good players, that sometimes fuck up.

>>150706414
Nah, its because Valve doesn't put anyone on Dota 2, CSGO or TF2. Games that don't require anything outside of maintenance and some content patches spread very far apart.

>>150706602
650 ms lycan ult comes to mind
Also maybe all the clusterfuck of damage changes we had around 6.83-4

>>150706589
No, Fnatic just decided to show up for that one set. Against liquid, they went back to full retard.

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>post yfw Secret is this year's MUFC
BUT IT'S OK, YOU GOT SECOND PLACE IN FUCKING STARLADDER

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what's a proper name for the meta this TI?

>>150706589
Didn't they crashed and burnt by Fnatic last ti5? Deja vu Ikr

>>150706714
again, regardless of reasoning, the fact is that they game is only getting more balanced as time goes on and will continue to be balanced as pitlord is released, and more balanced as they develop actually new heroes.

>>150706657
im not arguing that. im just saying that has nothing to do with their reasons for not making new heroes.

>>150706435
Bulba and RTZ are the only competent players on Secret.

They looked so good day 1 too. Puppey's drafting has been straight up dog shit

>>150706889
PLD is the most consistent player on the team.

I am pretty sure Envy is drafting, he drafted in the last few tournaments. Puppey is captain though, they probably talk alot between him, Envy and Bulba.

>>150706781
I'm surprised how shit Fnatic is but they keep it consistence in eliminating Team Sceret lmao

>>150706814
well snowtoad didn't need valve to make heroes back in allstars, and he still doesn't now. he could easily make new heroes, but is obviously more concerned with balance. valve aside, its obvious where waterfroggers priorities are.

>>150706714
Nah, Fnatic went full retard since the Summit. At Starladder, they didn't even look like a team, they were just throwing random heroes in.
Kotlguy might be right, apparently ohaiyo has some issues with mushi

>>150706524
i had a hearty kek ty anon

>>150706779
something to do with memelet and meme saber

>>150706779
MemeRangedCarry

>>150706746
Worse, 3 out of 5 of them won a Major.

Who can say what is really killing them at TI:
Lack of a stable roster?
a single player?EE?Puppey?babyrage?bilbo?diediedie?
cant draft/play in 6.88b?
new blood fucking them over?
bad catering?
hiding strats?
not enough scrims? too many scrims?

the answer will be a secret

>>150706938
I don't know, I think they all actually hate puppey, at that interview nobody drew him and he seemed so out of place

>>150706746
They already won a game, they can't be MUFC. Nothing will ever top that legendary run.

>we will never have casual yelling in Dota again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7phnlnHWNaI

MUSHIMUSHI

>>150706779
dragon lance carriers

>>150707000
>well snowtoad didn't need valve to make heroes back in allstars, and he still doesn't now.

yes he does. he wasnt working for them then, he is now (if he's even working, he could have left dota years ago and you wouldnt even know, icefrog is just a symbol). If Valve says they dont want new heroes, there will be no new heroes.

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>>150705560

>>150704385
Hi bulba :)

>>150707261
That implies that someone, or some people, actually care enough to boss icefrog around.

Everything about Valve seems to indicate that there are no bosses in that company.

>>150707261
exactly, thats the point. they specifically DONT want new heroes. its not a matter of neglect. its not like they are just being lazy, they obviously have reasoning behind what they are doing now.

I woke up from a bee sting induced coma several minutes ago.

What are some games worth watching?

>>150707476
any secret game

They are holding out Pit Lord for a bigger release, it's that simple. That's why they stretched heroes before Pit Lord too (this started to happen sometime before TI3)

>>150707476
>>150707502

Secret was in rare form today. Watch any of their games. EE and Arteezy easily the best in the world at their positions atm.

>>150707402
>actually care enough to boss icefrog around.
>Everything about Valve seems to indicate that there are no bosses in that company.

lol. they just made, what? if the prize pool of TI6 is 20 million, that means valve made atleast 80 million dollars from that alone? Probably more,doesnt matter.
If you think they're all there having goofy fun, and there's no shrewd salespeople and economists there, you're laughably naive.

Every dota2 event is made to make serious money. When there's finally a new hero ported, there's always some kind of arcana event bundled, where they make tons of money. I'm sure pitlord will have that too.

>>150707460
i said it before, i think it's because the more the heroes, the more difficult it is for new players (especially casuals) aka customers to join in.

EG is eu because of Sumail and zai

>>150707775
Oh yeah one new hero on a 110 pool totally makes a difference

>>150707825
youtried.jpg

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>>150707825
>Pakistani immigrant to the US
>EU

>>150707825
When did p*kistan join the EU?

>>150707848
>one new hero

we all used plural, not singular

>>150707885
>
>>150707883
>>150707913

>Retards giving free (You)s to 0 effort bait

>>150707913
thanks to Angela Merkel, every young male between Morocco and Pakistan is an honorary EU citizen now

>>150707913
Zai and sumail are from the same country?

>>150707938
I'll give a (You) to (You) too baby

secret looks like a team built on cheese strats and media hype

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GUYS

GUYS

GUYS

GUYS DO YOU HAVE A TEAM I CAN JOIN???

>>150708074
Basically early Na'vi. Amirite?

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>no chef hero

>>150708149
pudge is a butcher.
close enough.

>>150708083
cant he go back to clown 9, where he belongs?

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Can we all finally agree that Arteezy and EE have no place on any team?

They literally ruin any team they're on