EDFG - Earth Defense Force General

xth for rangers lead the way

EDF

Fucking star eaters mission
>we did it! It's dead!

Goddamnit woman you kept saying that shit and I thought it was over, BUT IT WASN'T OVER.

PSA: spritefall not actually recommended for personal self defense in case of being grappled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYvdYC1zvaQ

Which missions are good for Wing Diver solo weapon farming? I still need the Gungnir and Thunder Bow XD. Right now I'm running Death Queen or Machine Squad, but I'm not sure if those are the best choices.

>>150651006
>XD
kys

For the guy who ripped the sound files, what did you use to rip it?

I've also been trying to rip the assets out, does anyone know what could be used to do it? I doubt there is an answer but thought I'd ask.

Can't get Monster AHK macro to work.

Sometimes it will work, then other times it just does not respond. Tried addin a slight pause between click down and click up, but all that does is let the monster shoot multiple times and drain me.

How do get armor fast? i farmed 17. Valley shit but it still takes ages even on 20 times the speed.

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I beat the game! What now?

>>150657083
The slight pause is precisely the reason why its firing all the way. Your clickdown period must be shorter than a single shot from the Monster. If the problem is that the click is not registering, then I guess it also needs to be long enough to work but shorter than a Monster's refire rate.

Trial and error I guess.

>>150650689
He seems pretty safe to me, which is more than I can say with a limpet gun.

TO SAVE OUR MOTHER EARTH FROM ANY ALIEN ATTACK

>>150659253
if you really identify as a storm team you'll do it on inferno

>>150659973
Yeah I'm trying more options. "Sleep 1" seems to still enable a good chance of a double shot.

"Send {Click}" seems to be to only way to guarantee a single tap, but it just outright stops working for a while random. I'm not sure why. Happens to every gun, doesn't matter if you wait a couple of seconds between shots, it's like game jsut cannot into macro, left click always works, though.

>>150661540

I kinda wanted to do Wing Diver this time.

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Holy shit this thing is satisfying.

>>150661962

> 400 Armor

Sweet Volcano B10! Just got one a few missions ago.

>>150662448
Watch out for street lamps.

>>150661639
Looks like either I'm doing it wrong r the game just doesn't handle rapid-fire properly. The timings plainly do not work, my Monster-S will still triple shot every now and then with a NO delay between LButton down and up.

Maybe man was not meant to have an efficient monster sniper rifle.

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>>150662797
Complimentary webm.
This happened again next attempt as well but with a civilian.

There's something both frustrating and satisfying about take a shot with a sniper rifle and having an NPC walk into your line of fire, thereby catapulting him into the stratosphere.

>>150663035
>waddle waddle turn aaand squirt
>good job team!
fucking ants, worst enemy.

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These mother fuckers make the last few levels in the campaign a right bastard. Like what do I do to keep them at bay? Any good Ranger gear for them?

>>150663813
What is this, a picture for a-

--- Mother fucker, you TRAITOR

>>150651006
My favorite inferno mission for farming is Heaven's Army. I've been soloing it with Air Raider but I don't see any reason a WD couldn't do it also.

Bring your strongest sniper weapon and strongest Anti air weapon. There's 3 transport ships, I generally take out the left and right and leave the middle for extra loot and to give me time to collect said loot. There's lots of npc's on this map and they will take most of the aggro and tank for you unless you get completely overwhelmed.

If you find the mission too difficult take out the middle transport first and leave the left or right alive. It's a lot easier if you take down the middle one. If you beat it and you don't get a lot of loot don't get discouraged, sometimes it drops tons of loot and sometimes it doesn't drop all that much but overall it's a very efficient mission to farm.

How do I move fast as wing diver?

Good God I hate that fucking Blue dragon.

Any tips? Its driving me up the wall getting caught in that BS firebreath despite being no where near the SFX.

WHY IS THIS THREAD ON PAGE 10 IT'S BEEN 30 MINUTES.

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>>150670957
The last two generals before this one have just crashed hard. Is gaem ded?

>>150671157
No there is just nothing to discuss

>>150671157

Nah. Everyone that had been recruited is playing now. Also school is starting up so everything is starting to slow down.

>>150664442
How did you farm it as Air Raider?

>>150664442
>>150672518
I tried it on WD, I get overrun by drones, or if I last long enough, the walking dickbot will just nuked me in one hit with splash damage.

>>150672518
Use railgun as your vehicle and I used double ZEXR guns. Drop your railgun immediately and go to town on the transports. As soon as two transports are down go collect the AI's so they'll follow you around.

Then just drop your ZEXR guns 3 at a time. When one set is out of ammo drop the other set while it's reloading. That way you always have 3 turrets down.

Another strategy that works as AR is to bring a healing station and airtrap wire 16w or whatever you want for the air units. Just keep the big group of AI that's following you topped off with heals and they can do most of the work.

>>150673029
Wait drones and walking dickbot? You sure you're doing Heaven's Army? It's Mission 82 in offline mode.

There shouldn't be any drones or walkers, the left and right transport drop dragons and middle drops bees.

>>150677304
I may be confus.

Thought that was the mission where you start out facing the battleship in walking mode as it pelts the fuck out of you with it's aoe rape cannon, so you hide behind the nearby hill as your NPC allies (inc. tanks) go over the hill and onto the beach to die uselessly in seconds as wave after wave of ravager airshits spawn and rape everything.

There are also ants.

>>150678018
That's battle to the death.

How big is this update? I'm getting an error that says I don't have enough disk space. It can't be over 4gb, can it?

>>150671567
Better than an endless cycle of shitposting, waifuposting, and people claiming whatever class they use is superior because they use it, I suppose.

EDF!!!

>page 9 a mere 18 minutes in

Is this general just getting fucked by some autosage shit or what the cock?

>>150683516
It's just not very active. Interestingly though there's still EDF threads on /v/ at least once a day that hit 300+ posts.

IF THE THREAD 404'S THE RAVAGERS WIN

How the fuck do I tell if the genocide gun is aiming at me vs somewhere else? Is there a trick for avoiding this thing? I am trying to do mission 33 and I've gotten blasted by it 3 times in a row.

>>150687406
Isn't it just an explosion at the base? I never hung out near it so I'm not sure.

>>150687680
For me its a line of lasers shooting out at an angle, at least on mission 33. Seems to blow up a different area each time, while the mothership stays stationary.

>>150687406
The genocide gun does not attack anywhere but a fixed area below it, the area affected is a straight rectangle. You are supposed to wait until it moves away before you clean up all the enemies, so take your time hitting the closest shield groups and the few Hectors scattered around the periphery.

Not sure if you can shoot the gun in mission 33, but I know that it can sometimes be destroyed prematurely if you have high level long range weapons.

Whats the best control scheme for helis with keyboard?

So all lobbies are now on one page, right? No more juggling Steam regions?

>>150689034
nope, now you can have all the mouth breathing retards around the world at the leisure of your lobby!

>>150688429
none helis are shit

>>150690668
Helis are pretty good late game. The early helis are extremely hard to control because their response and movement is very sluggish.

Helis are low aggro targets for enemies, you can be 100ft away from the enemy but if there's anything else around within 1000ft to pull their aggro they pretty much just ignore you.

Only bad thing about helis is you generally need to call in two helis before you start using one, that way when your current heli runs low on ammo you can quick swap and call in another as backup. If you're the last thing left on the map you're pulling 100% aggro from everything so if you land and don't have another heli waiting you're fucked.

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>tfw you've got a great team but you end up crashing
Sorry guys.

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>oh hey, /edfg/ is back
>page 10

>>150697640
Just bump my shit up senpai.

>>150683516
It just means new threads are constantly popping up and forcing slower generals down and off the board. /vg/'s thread limit probably needs to be increased.

STORM THREAD WONT DIE

>>150692884
>not mastering the art of mid-air exit, throw and reentry

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>>150646314
Can I add some people to play with? I have a real lack of people to play with

>>150698173
Huh I didn't know that was possible. Will definitely try it later.

Is Javelin storm good or shit

Also what are some good Fencer melee weapons or spears to pair with a shield?

>>150646314
>Fixed an issue with AMD Phenom II
What issue?

That game would melt that processor

what the fuck

>>150699731
I have a phenom II x6 and it works fine.

>>150699538
Only for lower difficulty missions. The ZD version still doesn't cut it on Crimson for the harder difficulties.

Big shields go with any weapon that doesn't involve much movement such as flashing spears and slow ranged guns that aren't better off being dual wielded. Ion shields and reflectors can go with anything really, since they're for dashing and not blocking.

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>>150700489
okay thanks for advice have a cat

Fencer fun as fuck mang

Reflectron Multilaser is fun as hell in tunnel maps. You're a walking rave.

>tunnel map
>3 of us go wing raider
>the other guy is Air Raider
>'ok you guys are liability down here so stay behind me'
>'or at least switch to useful class'
>game starts
>we fucking zip forward and clear the entire misssion without even seeing him
>he never fired a single shot

>>150702032
>make a thunder sniper rifle
>call it thunder sniper 40
>accidentally fuck it up so badly that it can barely damage what's directly in front of you
>but it bounces so much that it ends up being ultra deadly in tunnels, but only in tunnels
Why exactly did they put a scope on it again?

>>150702897
I've never actually used the TS40 outside of tunnel missions, I picked it up while farming Death Queen Infrno and kept on using it there.

How do I deal with dragons as wing diver?
M30 obliterated bees and was good enough for drones, but dragons swarm me way too fast.
Am I supposed to only stagger them with mirage spam and let other players kill them?

>>150688113
Actually in certain missions the trajectory of the Genocide blast changes slightly.

Doesn't happen in 4.1 as much as it did in 2017 though.

>took forever to get stringer j3
>get j9 first inferno machine squad
the touch of god

>>150707861
What weapon did you use to beat the level? I'm guessing that the J3 won't cut it for Inferno.

>>150702235

>playing air raider
>with 3 wingdivers
>they keep getting downed because they are too stupid to take out all the ant hills producing ants, spiders and wasps
>hur dur, why are we getting overwhelmed so bad??????
>guy hosting the room gets downed by one of my bombing runs because he ignores the bombing markers on his map
>he quits the mission and the session ends

>>150708574
the j3 worked out alright
i did hardest to check the damage and that was easy so i tried inferno and after a few noob stunlock deaths it worked out fine, just play it safe really

the ai railgun tanks really clean up shop

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>Trying to do any mission in Inferno that has large amounts of dragons
>especially ones where it's just a big open field with zero hard cover

>>150709839
But y'know, every thread there's like 5 people going
"OMFG NOOBS EVERY INFERNO ROOM IS FARMING TRASH"

Mission Pack 1 is coming to PC next monday

http://store.steampowered.com/app/410780/

Why are Depth Crawlers so cheap with so little armor? Vehicles costing ~3000 are deployable at the start of a mission, why couldn't they make Crawlers more expensive but also less fragile?

So does EDF 4.1 have ALL the same missions as 2025?

>>150710529
git gud

>>150710906
4.1 has only 4 new missions (which all feature Erginus or Godzilla)

Majority of the missions from 2025 though have had changes done to them in one way or another.

Enemy placements are different, enemy count is way higher, friendly vehicles participate in battle (no AI helis or vegaltas though) and different maps/spawns on map.

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Please tell me that this was a slight sync issue. Hectors really cant move in stopped time right?

>>150710472
how many mission packs are there? 26 missions for just the first one sounds awesome

>>150710529
I think they wanted to make the Depth Crawler fulfill a unique niche even on topside missions. Aside from being the only worthwhile underground vehicle, maybe it was also intended to be seen as a cheaper alternative to most vehicles; a vehicle that is a cheap gamble and could be quickly replaced after a few kills.

>>150705127
THunder Bow can hit a big area out to 600m out. For better results, try to get yourself in a chokepoint, like with buildings. The fire breath might kill you too soon though.

>>150711431
2 mission packs, mission pack 2 has 23 missions.

>>150712010
Are they worth buying? in sense of farming? Do they give new weapons or just missions?

>>150712636
Just missions, no new weapons.

To me they are worth buying just for the challenge.
If you think some base game missions are hard, the DLC missions will push your shit in

>>150712819
Is there some guide that says which weapon levels drop from the DLC missions?

>>150711607
Problem is that it is actually a lot more powerful than the cost is in exchange for exploding really quick if just one thing doesn't go your way. Some of the later models can really keep those bugs at bay even above ground.

Well, the most common thing to go wrong is walking over any slightly uneven surface, causing the thing to flail around wildly and making it impossible to aim at anything without stopping. And that's a REALLY common problem that might make that 1000 point advantage totally moot. Hell its really finicky in the developed tunnels already, only becoming stable once it enters the ant-made halls.

>>150705127
You keep moving, go into tight areas where they will start hanging off the buildings, then swing back and clear them out with a rapier. Thunder bows do work when they are flying in the open skies but I find that dragons have so little health that its better to use a laser since you will waste less energy per kill.

>>150713046
Check the wiki in the OP.

>>150713345
It doesn't have DLC missions.

>>150713482
It does, just not the exact page linked

>>150713595
oh ok

>>150713595
I might be a retard, but I can't find that info anywhere in the site.

>>150716817
The site says it's powered by the EDF wiki, which is all in JP, unfortunately.

>>150716817
Here is the resource, where you can look up enemy health on particular difficulties/mission/online scaling, as well as weapon drops.

Use translate, it's not too hard to figure out some engrish

>>150717535
I'm an autist, forgot the link

http://leafier.ari-jigoku.com/EDF4_1/health,dropweapon.html

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To save our mother earth from any alien attack,

>>150717803
The EDF deploys!

>>150717954
I've been shot...!

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is this guy legit?

>>150720760
Well let's see, you can get 800 crates a mission, give or take...

2 crates per increase in hp, let's say 200 is the default start...

25870 armor crates~ divided by total crate cap...

If he farmed missions straight until crate cap over and over, it would take approximately 32.3 (rounded) runs of pure armor drops to reach 13135 Armor.

And let's be generous and say it takes approximately 2 hours to reach that cap...

A minimum of 64 hours worth of farming crates alone, given that all 800 are armor.
...

I'd have to say it's possible with 94 hours of playtime but that guy can't have done much else.

I learned the pleasure of Fencer today. Reflector + Dynamo Blade D on Brute Force Inferno. I was Sanic Dashing all over the battlefield and mowing down hordes with energy blades and bouncing Hector shots back at their owners. Only thing that killed me was 50 drones focus firing me and I would have survived that if I had just made it to a health crate in front of me.

How does Fencer kill those drones, anyhow?

>>150722645
Dynamo Blade

>>150723114
Oh, I tried that, but I couldn't get enough height and I was only killing one or two at a time.

I also only had around 400 armor, is that too low for Inferno? How high should I go?

>>150723327
Max charge shot with the Dynamo Blade has a range of 500 meters, with the Dynamo Blade M2 and Dyna Force Blade it's 1000 meters.

Anyone need some carriage on literally whatever you'd like?
Can do Preventing Landfall, Crimson, Ded Queen, Machine Squad and carry them fairly well.
I'm bored, and farming armor on Split Screen is annoying.
Waiting on DLC.

>>150722645
Javelin for fast, spears for reach or Dynamo, High Impacts or NCSS then you probably need bunkers from a raider.
Shotguns work too, but range can be annoying.
You also need aggro split on somebody else or NPCs to be effective.

>>150723327
You'd literally aim for ten times that for surviving as Fencer while putting efficient DPS.
I however manage most stuff with 2k.

>>150723553
I usually play solo since I'm leery of hackers.

>>150723630
Time to farm armor I guess.

Post insect-killing music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLrX7MH1Rtg

>finally beat Battle of the Giants on Hardest, but barely, only one AI Balam survived
>had to use the AF100 to hose down erginuses as much as possible while healing AI Balams with the Reverse Shooter X

How the hell are you supposed to beat this on Inferno I wonder? The AF100 is already one of Ranger's highest DPS weapons.

>>150724162

https://youtu.be/M8W2JhplpLk

>>150724162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGtEH1i78sI

Adversor et amorsus!

>>150723942
Leery?
They're usually obvious for me, I guess.
Like those guys spawning balams at the start of missions, or those guys with 50k armor, or those guys with a fully automatic Gungnir.

>>150724998
Fully automatic Titan is the funniest shit ever

>>150724998
Plus, I'm fairly antisocial and have no mike.

Still, it would be fun to EDF!!! EDF!!! with everyone else.

>>150725078
Unlike Gungnir, I would actually find that really funny.
>>150725179
I will never use one of those devilish voice devices anyway, don't think they're necessary.

>>150702897
If you read the description it states that they weren't so sure about putting a scope on it.
>>150705127
It heavily depends on the difficulty and whether you're Offline or Online.
If you're Online, hopes are pretty low for Inferno, I'd run a kiting double Heimdarr or Heimdarr plus Thunder Bow Ecs Dee.
You also need a shitload of armor.
Or just hide behind Bunkers/below a bridge with a Rapier.
Mirage's energy consumption is pretty trash, and it misses when it, itself hits an enemy and sends it flying.
If you don't have the best gear, try any lance, Idunns and rapiers if you know how to avoid running out of energy.
Rapier is usually ''eh'' however, since dragons' fire is way out of your range.
But it does the job.

Fucking around with cheat engine is SP is pretty hilarious. Unlimited clip Elcat 30 is ridiculous.

Mission 87 is fucking terrifying.

>>150728338
You just gave me an idea and it involves the volcano.

>>150728462

On 87 and 89 I had to bump the difficulty down to normal from hard. When I go through the game on Hardest I'll take a swing again as I'll likely have some better armor and weapons.

OP here. Whoever creates the next topic make sure to add the following link for the DLC and the August 8th release date somewhere in there.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/410780/

>>150728338
Any weapon that has the capacity of 1 becomes a rapid firing death weapon

Is there any point in using a ranger over a wing diver?

Feels like the loss of flight is a pretty severe downside for slightly more health.

>>150730413
They get better anti air guns but over all they apparantly do less damage too othervise. Wing diver, air raider and fencer have their uses. Ranger is just a generalist that is good for many roles but doesent excel at anything it seems.

>>150730413

If you've ever played with a support ranger with a reverse gun x you'll appreciate the utility they bring

being able to deal damage AND burst heal in an AoE is a huge boon

>>150730413

Ranger is the jack of all trades class. All other classes generally excel at a set amount of things, while a Ranger can be loaded out to cover multiple roles at a decent level.

>>150727196
I play online on hardest and dragons on open maps like hills with ants and spiders are frustrating enough.
Best bow I have is 20R which is way too weak (also sniper 40 but it uses too much power), Idunn E2 shows best results so far despite the range.

>>150646314
did they fix the having your steam name too long glitch?

>>150732061

Dont think so, but a patch came out yesterday that fixed a bunch of other various bugs in the game, including a fix for AMD users that were having trouble running the game.