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Museum Man the Doomhammer, self mill for 6, Concede Edition

>/hsg/ poll
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSekNLi_xMC9Bwt9X6IZECo8j4fWGDfa9b6Rbo9c5UVdJmhuDA/viewform

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://tempostorm.com
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/
https://manacrystals.com/
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/category/analysis/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

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What are you watching while playing hearthstone /hsg/? I need to consume some more media before I realise the game is bad and stop playing
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>>150604072
so I was right once again, they have more discard cards and the legend is shit
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Historic card that changes precedent, but is it good?
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>>150604248
>rafaam version 2
Yea no
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>>150604248
Short answer, probably not.

Maybe it will be good or playable in a viable constructed deck once they cycle out all the OP shit again, but as of right now, in this meta, no.
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one night to come
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>>150604248
I'm gonna try it in my n'zoth mage
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>>150604248
If it cost 7 I think hunters might love it
8 is harder to swallow though
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>>150604248

>Spam removal and get free minions

Yeap its an awesome tempo card.
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>>150604072
>That belongs in my ass!
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>>150604419
>8 is harder to swallow though
I trust you on this one.
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>>150604227
I've just been watching anime lately desu.

Just finished One Punch Man which is funbut disappointing plotwise, which I think might be the point
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>>150604460
I'm an expert
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What's up with this matchmaking?
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Coming back to HS after like two years of being gone, quit just before the last wing of Naxx came out.

My question is, should I save up gold and just buy into the raids I missed, or spent it all on Classic Packs, or Grand Tournament Packs?

I know jack shit about all the raids I missed, I just know I'm pretty much only going to be playing Standard mode, so I figured I'd just stick to the old shit.
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>>150604529
There's not many tri hards left
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>>150604561
well, I'd advise getting Nax and blackrock then, as they are soon going to be rotated out. (nax already has been).

Just hoard up for a while and get a feel for the meta, buy the upcoming adventure if you're not completely sure about stuff
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>>150604529
Early in the season there isn't many people at the higher ranks so the matchmaking has to expand the search.

You're also cancer for playing Zoo, but I'm sure your opponent is also playing Dragon Warrior so I guess it balances out
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>>150604561
Adventures > Expansions if you're looking for individual card value.
You're going to get more Legendary, Epic, etc cards than if you were to buy the gold/money equivalent worth of packs.

Those specific cards you're getting too are especially valuable since they are either deck defining or so much better than their substitutions you're handicapping yourself by not playing them.
Emperor Thaurissan from BRM or Elise Starseeker from LoE are must-haves for instance.

If you're looking for a really easy to craft Standard deck I would suggest something C'Thun related; most of the cards you need are Common/Rare and the deck essentially plays like Midrange for most classes (some play more like Control) with a big ol' 10 mana minion to finish off the game
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>Handlock i'm playing against Life Taps and mills himself 1 card
Who /AutopilotWhileWatchingFamilyGuy/ here
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>>150604248
A neutral weapon wow. I wonder what will this card say when played against the Medivh skin?
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>>150604248
Does nothing to stop aggro.
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>>150604248

I can't wait to send that to the museum for 3 cards.
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>numbness in my right chest area
>smoker for 8 years
>climb with mid range shaman
I-Is it over?
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>>150605523
Sorry anon. It's terminal.
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>>150604248
It's very good.
But only the more spell heavy decks will be able to make use of it.
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>game still crashes whenever opponent takes their turn
nice game hearthbabs
i'm going to Faeria
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>>150605523
>mid range shaman
There needs to be a consistent distinction anon.
Does your Shaman run Mistcaller, Hallazeal, or Al'Akir? Maybe even a Thunderbluff Valiant?

If you're only running Thing From Below and calling it "midrange" I'm afraid I have some bad news for you.
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>>150605895
there is no doomhammer or al'akir but i do run 2 valiants and 2 fire elemental
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>>150605523
Don't smoke. There, easy.
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>>150605927
Okay, I think you might stabilize
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>>150605975
About as easy as quitting Hearthstone :^)
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>hur dur the meta is too fast for 8 mana minion

I bet these people think midrange hunter is aggro.
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>Lose against a bunch of control decks
>Switch to other decks that work better against control
>No control decks in sight
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What do you think will happen when you have imp on board and silverware golem in hand and you cast deathwing?
Also will you draw 2 cards per 1 discarded if you have 2 imps?
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>>150606042
they are correct though. The meta is too fast for something that doesnt impact the board
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How does summoning stone / the mediv weapon interact with the 0 mana spells that use up all your mana?
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So how do you 'win' this brawl for the pack?
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>>150606324
press "end turn" button like 4 or 5 times
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>>150606324

pass every turn and let him kill you and you win.
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Rate my OC
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>>150606324
>play brawl
>don't concede
>???
>profit
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>>150606365
>>150606361
Haha, wow. I had thought that'd be the case but here I am actually playing it with no meme deck.
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>>150606291
Stealth/10
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>>150604248
Summoning Portal with a big body? Pretty good for value or token decks.
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Next Hearthstone adventure leaked. Posting the future expansion of hearthstone. All summed up in one pic
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>>150606324
kill yourself
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>>150604248
SS-Hunter will rise again
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>>150604248
Pretty good card for control decks if they have the time to play it. Otherwise it gets stuck in your hand versus aggro because you would rather play your removals as soon as possible.
I guess it could work well in control matchups.
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>>150604248
Medivh getting a card makes sense because of Echo. I wouldn't get my hops up regarding other heroes.
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>>150606968
>ANOTHER WARLOCK CARD
>STILL NO PRIEST OR SHAMAN
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>>150606968
It can't be... That can't be a real card, izzit?
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Rate
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>>150606324
Let him kill you. You can't grind 10 gold quests but can finish dailies this way.
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>>150607210
https://twitter.com/Blizzard_ANZ/status/761129521156284416
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Mark my words. Discard-zoo is going to be the new cancer that overruns ladder. 90% of matches will be two Warlocks discarding their hands and the winner will be whoever gets cards like >>150606968 and fist discarded first.
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>>150606112
They summon wisp or tinyfin
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>>150607242
Sorry man, no hablo Espanol.
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>>150607328

not good enough to outvalue fiery axe
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>>150604248
Looks like OC I saw in /hsg/ months ago
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I can't enjoy any deck unless its tempo mage now
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>>150607289
*sigh* time to load the decks up with succubus and soul fire
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>>150607440
>4 mana summon a 3/4, 4/3 and 3/3
outvalue that
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>>150607328
Sticky minions are better than slightly bigger early minions that still die to win axe and bolt
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>>150607482
Try Token Druid buddy
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>>150606085
It gives you a weapon, it's 2 cards in one. They have to play an Ooze or Museum Man and kill the 7/7 on the board, I don't see what the problem is
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Predict Kripp's reaction to the new cards.
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>>150607594
Well people run Yogg in it so it must be good
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>>150607671
Who?
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>>150607671
If the pros have learnt anything it's to not predict cards and to tap BEFORE you do your turn.
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How much do you spent on our guys every month?
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>>150607871
>that pillow
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>>150607705
It is. You can set-up ridicolous swing/value turns with Fandral and/or teachers and power of the wild, plus you have a very good ramping, a lot of ways to respond to stuff thanks to Raven Idol. When everything goes south just throw down the god of memes and let rng decide the winner. IMO is more fun than Tempo mage.
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>>150607871
I donate money to Zetalot to prolong his suffering on this world.
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>every single warlock card has been revealed
>all the legendaries revealed
>they even revealed a filler taunt minion
>still not a single priest or shaman card

I think we all know why.
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Vile scumbags. I will destroy you all mark my words. Did you know that i crafted both midrange shaman and aggro shaman? Words of my greatness will echo through this runned down general until everyone has heard of my great being. Bow down to your one true master scum cause from this point on i own you all. I have won 7 games in a row from rank 24 to rank 19 and i can assure you that your time is limited unless you follow your own true leader me. PRAISE ME AND YOU SHALL BE GREATLY REWARDED. OPPOSE ME AND SUFFER AT THE HAND OF MY EXCELLENCY. Write poems for me and sing my name through the ladder cause i will become legend
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>>150608013

can't be worse than the warlock cards or will ben "priest is fine" brode actually manage it?
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>>150607961
I'll see if its more fun than my waifu Jaina. What's your list?
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>>150607619
>They have to play an Ooze or Museum Man and kill the 7/7 on the board, I don't see what the problem is

The problem is they go face.
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>>150608013
But that's okay, we know at least ONE person reached Legend with Priest last season, so it's not that bad! Plus you get BOOK WYRM. Didn't you ever wish you had a third Shadow Word: Pain on turn 6?

What? A common turn 5 play involves Azure Drake? Warrior has a 4/3 charge minion that he normally plays before turn 6? I don't understand the problem. Priest is in a good place. A whole guy went to Legend with it.
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>>150606968
This & Imp might make discard lock a thing, but probably not.
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>>150608049
You can dominate me anon. Any time
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Why does Book Wyrm exist? Is SWP supposed to be better than Cabal's effect?
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>when you get dced and click on quit game the game registers it as conceding the game
>forced to go into task manager to kill the hearthstone process every time I dc so I don't lose stars for free
Nice spaghetti code, Blizzard.
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>>150608127
Not on my PC right now, I'll post it later
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>>150608378
BALANCED BEN OF GREAT BRODES OF THE ELITE DESIGNERS OF MT OLYMPUS
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In hs if only we were allowed to block enemy minion attacks to prevent every shitty minion going face.

But instead we have a taunt trait which costs mana, also which, in turn, makes offensive minions stronger against them.

But nooooooope. Let's play aggro.
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Have you prayed to Thrall today, /hsg/?

Never forget:

Thrall said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Light except through me.
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>>150608378
It's not a card printed for /hsg/, ad /hsg/ is only able to play Priest and cannot phatom that this game has 8 more classes. It can be decent on Dragon Paladin for the Aldor/Ultraman sinergy.
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>>150608517
What? I'm sorry, I was busy listening to Morgl. He had this fantastic joke about the power of the seas and how... what? Mussels are actually the strongest? Why would they be... HAH! I GET IT.

Anyway, what were you saying? Something gay about being a fag?
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>>150608517
I LL FIND YOU. I WILL AND I WILL DESTROY YOU YOU PIECE OF SHIT. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU STUPID MOTHER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE REVEAL YOURSELF IN MY PRESENCE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>150608378
Stampeding Kodo is being played, and that thing only hits 2 or lower attack minions and is random.
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>>150608650
you and your mother are both played for fools but you aint playable in Hearthstone nigga
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>>150608585
>cannot phatom
/hsg/ cannot phantom?
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>>150608650
Kodo doesn't need a dragon in your hand to work.
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>>150608585
Priest is the only class in the game that takes any degree of thought whatsoever to play, it's no surprise that it's /hsg/'s favorite.
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>>150608650

>>150608718
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>>150608585
It's spelled fathom, friend
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>opponent has elekk on board
>play loot hoarder
>he plays flame juggler and hits the loot hoarder
>never draw my axe so the elekk manages to push in 12 damage before I can kill it off
Nice how this game is completely decided by coinflips.
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>>150608378
It's not. Cabal Shadow Priest is a class card attached to a 4/5 body with a targeted, conditional mind control effect.

Book Wyrm is a 3/6 body with a strict activation/deckbuilding condition, target condition to kill a minion.

Generally speaking mind controlling an enemy minion is much better than simply killing it because you can bypass deathrattles and adds that minion to your resources your opponent has to overcome to defeat you
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>6 mana 3/6 with 2 conditions needed to be useful
wow
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>>150608912
>don't draw win axe
>lose
Yeah, it is funny.
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>>150608912
Boo hoo I'm a Warrior I lost one match out of the millions I win with my overpowered early game cards.
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I kinda want to rape Ben Brode. Whose with me?
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whats best hearthstone bot?
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>>150609130
Massan
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>>150609109
you ll never take me alive
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Obligatory reminder that Lesser Heal, on top of being the hardest to utilize, is also the least mana-valued hero power in the game and should heal for 3 to be average, or be compensated for by giving Priest better card quality. Because Blizzard continues to refuse to do either, Priest has been the worst or second-worst class in the game for literally every meta in Hearthstone's history.
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>>150606968
THEY DID IT
THEY FUCKING DID IT
THIS WAS EXTACLY WHAT WAS MISSING
A WAY TO SUMMON SHIT THAT YOU DISCARD
DISCARDLOCK IS FINALLY A THING
THANK YOU BASED BLIZZARD
I'M GONNA OFF MYSELF NOW
GOODBYE
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>>150608970
>make win axe worse
>dragon warrior, the arguably most hated ladder deck, still dominates

its just the war axe guys nerf pls hehe reddit
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Priestbros WW@?
Here's hoping we get some pretty good cards, now that we can confirm that the Adventure is giving each class at least 3 new cards.
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>>150604248
warrior loves this card, slam, execute, shield slam, shield block, whirlwind, blood to ichor
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>>150609234
Alive?! He said hes going to rape you not kill...Whatd wrong with you
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>>150609696
>a total of 3 1-3 mana minions
So this.. is the power of the warrior
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>>150609696
summon 2 ,1,1,3,1,1 drops. not very good in warrior
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>>150604248
>if you want to use ashbringer, you have to wring it out of Tirion's cold, lifeless hands
>meanwhile, Medivh gives his mom's wooden dildo to anyone that asks
truly, anything goes for one night
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>>150609250
Well, technically Lesser Heal and Reinforce are two hero powers with the most value in the game. It prolongs life of beefy minions and let them trade multiple times. But since value means jackshit in this meta and no minion can trade with 477, buffed trogg and dodge execute, I say screw that, give priest and paladin some OP shit.
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>>150609813
>>150609821
>clearing the board +laying threats down is bad

shhhh kids, adults are talking
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>>150607871
>No hair
>No muscle
Fuckboy/10
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>>150610050
1-3 drops are scary
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>>150610121
Yeah, ask zoolock
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>>150610050
>captain's parrot, jeweled scarab and disciple of c'thun
I am literally shaking in my boots
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>>150604352
Can someone shop this to say you're mom instead of zeriyah
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>Every dragon cuck just so happens to have double alex champion, double ghoul and double corruptor in the top 10 cards
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How do I beat waraxe into ghoul?
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>>150610810
I don't see those being mana efficient turns
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>>150609656
If her face was alright, those hips would be deadly
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niggerniggernigger
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>>150610810
FOR THE LIFEBINDER
FOR THE DRAGON QUEEN
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>>150610242
The only 1-mana card zoolock plays on turn 8 is power owerwhelming.
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>>150610917
War axe the ghoul and you even have an extra charge to use on something else
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>>150610973
>21140 arcane dust
>doesn't even have double shield slam
What's the point of autism if you can't even show it to your online opponent by playing control warrior
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I fantasize all the time about sneaking up on an anon playing shaman and just when he equips his Doomhammer grab him and violently enter his boypussy making him submit his everything to me. Whats wrong with me?
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>>150611051
You're right man zoolock stops playing their one drops later in the game you've proved me wrong, removing minions and throwing down 1 drops is worthless thank you my mind is changed
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>Try Elder Scrolls Legends
>It really is just a shitty Hearthstone
>However it has one feature I'd really like to see

Ongoing spell effects, shit like "your minions have 0/1" until the card is replaced or destroyed.
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>>150609626
whos idea was to make a 2 mana 3/3 with charge?
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>>150608127
Here it is, gonna craft Cenarius soon if the Karazhan meta allow this deck.
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>>150611239
that's literally already a thing in hearthstone
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>>150611239
You mean Artefacts? Yes, i would also like Hearthstone to become better, and copy the good aspects of MtG.
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>>150611274
remove yogg, add cenarius and onyxia for more consistency
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>>150611294
No it isn't. The only time we've ever seen those effects is in the Tavern Brawl.

I'm not talking about minions with these effects, I'm talking spells.
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>>150610985

Dreams aint free. The emerald dream gotta be littered with blood of yseras choosen. QUEEN alexstrasza aka the Orc Slave is not my Queen and probably deathwing supporter as well.:DD Dreams and green dragonflight not alexstrasza and life ok. Praise the trembling of the world.
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>>150611294
You're confusing generic card buffs for persistent spell buffs for anything played on your board. He's not talking about shit like Shadow Word: Tentacles, he's talking about spell cards that persist on the board and affect everything you play.
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>>150610917
Turn 1 trogg, the warrior will coin out his axe.
Turn 2 ooze, the warrior loses his axe and spends his turn on hero power.
Turn 3 feral spirit. Ghoul now does nothing.
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>>150611450
Lock and load
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>hunter or mage dominance
>hungover and don't want to think
>make kill self mage deck and do tavern brawl
>60 gold
ayy we did it
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>>150611486
No, again you seem to be completely confused about what is being talked about. Lock and Load is one turn only, it is not persistent throughout the game.

Look up MtG artefacts, that is what is being talked about.
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>>150606968
Sill not enough to make Discrd-lock a thing, we've seen all the warlock cards already, haven't we? The Imp, this dude and the spell?

If you could CHOOSE which cards to discard then yeah, I could see discard-warlock becoming a pretty good thing, but so far all you have are early game minions and a doomguard with the risk of losing valuable cards
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>>150611501
If she would pass out, would miss Vivi mind if i went inside? :3
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>Not playing Hunter to shit on Warriors
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>>150606080

Imp gets destroyed, no cards are drawn, memewing gets summoned, hand is discarded, silverware gets summoned

2 imps trigger 2 draws
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>>150611703
Very unique deck man thanks
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>>150611620
unless you're gonna put a ring on it I'd prefer not
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>>150611703
>unleash x2
>shitting on warriors
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>>150611703
I tried it but I got tired of the whole curve out or lose the game thing.
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>>150611703
camel hunter is the sleeper OP deck
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>>150611164
im a cheapass :v)
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>>150604248
>Coin Medivh
>Call of the Standard
>Call of the Standard
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>Druid is my favorite class
>played Yogg Druid, C'Thun Druid, or Token Druid for about 5 hours today
>get up to rank 17
>fall to rank 19
>get to rank 17
>fall to rank 19
>repeat
>start playing zoolock
>rank 15 already

Do I suck ass or is the ladder just busted right now?
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>>150611991
Anything that thins the deck to allow you play the only 2 cards that matter (highmane call) on curve is good.
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>>150604489
OPM is a satire of the Shonen genre.
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>>150612162
Probably a bit of both.
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>>150612162
how many times are you going to fucking post this?

yogg druid requiresyou to know what you're doing zoo just vomits minions on the board, there you go
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>>150612162
I've seen a few Yogg druids at rank 5ish this season. You probably suck.
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>>150611379
>Ysera Awakens
>the exact same green fart bomb animation that abomination uses
What did she mean by this?
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>>150611703
Well, I will run Forlorn Stalker when Granny comes out
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>>150612162
Post deck faggot
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I hurt my cheeks because of how much I laughed at rope that came after this turn.
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>>150604248
>Turn 8 Medivh
>Turn 9 Forbidden Shaping
inb4 majordomo and wisp
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>so many warriors on ladder that everyone starts playing hunter
>ladder is now infested with hunters

So, what's the new trendy meta deck to shit on hunter, boys?
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So how will Arena Ruining Portal work with Summoning Stone? If it summons a Summong Stone, the stone will summon a fucking 7 mana minion? What if said 7 mana minion is Antonidas, will he also get the fireball? Are we entering a new age of TALES TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS XDDD?
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>>150612107
>delaying your call to play a dead minion
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>>150612191
And strangely, does it better than all other Shounen.
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>>150612513
Zoo, also, midmeme shaman has a good matchup against other midmeme decks (ie most hunters) and none dragon warriors.
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>>150612513
Rogue
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>>150612513
I have a 100% win rate against hunters as zoo so far, so probably that.
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>>150612527
Antonidas doesn't give you a fireball when you get him out of Summoning Stone.
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>>150612326
She likes to fart in mens faces.
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>>150612191
IIRC, no. This chain of events is impossible since summoned minions don't enter current spell triggered events queue.
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Whats the fun in the tavern this week?

you literraly just have to destroy the AI
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>>150612880
At least you can do stupid priest dailies more quickly
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>>150612648
>get my zoolock ready
>immediadly match up with another zoo with legend cardback, he constantly spams emotes

I don't now what i expected.
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Not looking to be any competitive with this. It's just for fun. Add/remove?
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>Finally got a Legend in arena after 10+ runs
>Going 4-0
>About to break for lunch
Life is good, folks. How's your day been?
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>>150612987
Add Hellfire so you can clear an enemy Zoo's board, Reno, and take over the tempo.
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>>150613157
If he's at the point where he can Hellfire Reno, then the enemy Zoo has the big guys out
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>>150612987
Remove elven archer, mortal coil, young priestess, initiate, tidehunter, alchemist, librarian, flame juggler, scarab, lance carrier, succubus, dark iron dwarf, doomgard, Reno
Add duplicates of all cards that I not mentioned except soulfire and sea giant.
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>>150613081
I'm just about to have lunch myself! I'm happy for you anon!
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>>150604248
It should summon minion after Twisting Neither right? Atiesh should work with Cho'gall too.
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Why is this allowed?
Can Blizzard make it any more obvious that basic cards are generally objectively weaker than cards you need to buy?
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I wonder how far people go in that.
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>these choices
i should just retire at this point
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>>150613598
should have bet on building a murloc deck
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>>150613598
>picking a 5 mana 6/3 over a 4 mana 7/4.
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>>150613598
Hammer of Wrath is good
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>>150613458
It's balanced because it gives priest more sw:p value
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>>150604248
At last Elise got more nervt from all this legends.
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>>150613598
>Not going all in on murlocs
You were punished for not having FAITH
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>>150613851
huge buff to priest right here
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>>150609729
there are two meanings to the phrase "take me"
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>>150604436
>Disregarding the fact that you loose a bunch of tempo when you play it
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>>150612648

I have a solid win rate against zoo as Yogg hunter :^)
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>>150614324
It's ok, warriors have a buffer of 80+ life before they have to react to the board
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>>150614338
Zoo is very favored against yogg hunter.
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>>150614430
really? yogg hunter is loaded with anti zoo cards
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>>150609656
>We know that some classes are far less popular than others. For this reason, we've decided not to create any new Priest cards for this adventure, and instead give other, much more popular classes, exciting new ways to play.

>We've sent the challenge out already, we know you've all been experimenting and trying exciting ways to play Priest, and we didn't want to stifle this creativity. Perhaps you might be the one to discover the Unicorn Priest? HahahAHAhaahahaAHAhaha
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>>150614492
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1osCVci8-7ttXp_CjWORzEUYf5VQlGWN_ZsOUrbCX0AI
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>>150613726
>>150613764
>>150613947
>>150613759

I repented and got this. A second anyfin was offered to me by the gods and I took it. Now I'm too afriad to start playing cause it's an obvious 12 win deck and I might fuck it up.
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>>150614430

No? Zoo is all minion combat and Yogg hunter has nothing but removal, clears and once they get into CoTW/Yogg it can end very quickly for the zoo player.

Sure you can win with top draws/bad opponent draws like every other matchup but Zoo/aggro shaman and dragon warrior have been my best matchups by far.

Heavy control take me to fatigue and win that way and spell burn decks just burn my face.
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This has got to be the worst Tavern Brawl in this or any dimension.
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>>150614534
I told you dog
Good luck, post progress
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>>150614534
there's so many 12 win decks around that you wont get past 9 anyways
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>>150613458
Because objectively bad cards need to exist so players feel good about getting better cards

HAHAHAHAHA
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>>150613458
Ben Brode says that basic cards have worse stats because they are "easier for new players".
So if a new player played 3/2 taunt instead of 2/2 taunt he would get very confused and he would quit the game.
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>>150614524

Have you actually played it though or you put your faith in some chart based only on some games by a few people? I've put in like 150 odd games of yogg hunter in the past few weeks and minion based decks like zoo are what I have the best chance against and spell based decks (like tempo mage) are what I have the least chance against.

Power shot rapes flood minions.
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>>150614656
>>150614696
Bad start
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>2 more years of call of the skill
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>higher stats=higher iq
aggro BTFO
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>>150614932
And he dropped creeper right after. Fuck this.
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>>150614942
On the bright side only 8 months of Entomb. We are almost there.
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>>150604072
What's your Brawl record, fampais?
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>>150615072
>8 months of 0 priests until 0 priests
wew lad
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>>150611703
>not running the superior Fedora Removal Kit
80% win rate guaranteed for even the biggest of shitters.
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>>150615072
>having problems with priest in this day and age

What deck are you playing?
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>>150615259
6 damage
becasue I am not autistic fuck to play that shit more then once for free pack
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>>150615259
Just kill yourself.Everybody knows you can deal infinite dmg. If you are retarded enough to only deal 900 dmg that is your problem but stop posting this shit.
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>>150615267
>>150615315
It's just annoying spell. Fuck control priests.
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>>150614857
>Have you actually played it though
Yes. Yogg hunter's problems with aggro shaman stems from a lack of 2 hp minions. He plays Tunnel Trogg for 1, while you need to quick shot it for 2. He plays Totem Golem on 2, but you generally need two cards to deal with it on turn 2/3, unless you want to waste a deadly shot on it. Feral Spirits come out, and you try to deal with them awkwardly again.

Issues with zoo stem from sticky minions. Argent Squires, Possessed Villagers are annoying to deal with. With decent positioning, powershot hardly hurts.

>by a few people
1693 contributors, with thousands of games.

Maybe it works out at rank 20.
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>daily reminder that the meta will only get worse post-karazhan
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>>150609859
Made me laugh outloud
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>>150615259
Gave up at 1000
I guess I could wait longer but then lightbomb ruins all the fun. Shame they don't let you go beyond that
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>>150604248
So do we know all legendaries or will there be 5? like in loe?
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>Warlock CONSTANTLY getting his fucking dick sucked
>Still no Rogue cards outside the currently unusable peddler
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>>150616138
there will be 5 but we've seen all of them already

curator, barnes, moroes, malchezzar, medivh
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>>150616248
>moroes
goddamn my bad I forgot about that shit
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>>150616298
they're all forgettable dogshit anyway
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>>150615624

Yeah shaman is harder than zoo, I never said it wasn't. Zoos sticky minions aren't really that much of a problem though.

>Maybe it works out at rank 20.

I love it when you post something someone doesn't agree with they go straight to the >LMAO SHIELDBEARER shit.

I'm not saying yogg hunter is some fucking top tier ladder deck, it's fucking memey as hell, but it's best served against minion based decks because it's all removal.
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>>150616441
You said that zoo, aggro shaman and dragon warrior were you best matchups. These 3 are the most common decks on ladder at the moment, meaning that if you have a favorable against all 3, then you should be soaring up in ranks with ease, and it should be a top tier ladder deck. Obviously, if your best matchup is still unfavorable, then we have no problems.
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>>150616207
>5 mana
>deal 5 damage to the enemy hero
>joust for 10 damage
5 mana pyro or 5 mana worse than a fireball
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what did he mean by this?
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>>150616770

>You said that zoo, aggro shaman and dragon warrior were you best matchups.

Because they are. But it's yogg hunter, a favourable matchup for the deck is still a pretty poor winrate when compared to real ladder decks and streaking is not really possible.

I still climbed while playing it, even though I almost never got to streak. So the overall winrate was at worst ever so slightly favourable.
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>>150614849
>So if a new player played 3/2 taunt instead of 2/2 taunt he would get very confused and he would quit the game.

it almost happened to me i played the warrior card which gives another card taunt, i almost punched my screen, but then i saw the 1/2 taunt card and i calmed down
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>>150617129
go back to /pol/ maybe
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>>150616931
I tried to make it cast renounce darkness with Cho shenanigans, but it won't do it.
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Honestly I'm just glad that the Warlock cards aren't cancer, I mean Discard stuff is RNG and Blizzard should rework the mechanic but at least there's no heavy Zoo cards like Councilman.
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>>150617418

It ignores any kind of foreign spell except those it Mind Vision's or thoughtsteals..

Curse of Rafaam OP
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>>150604561
Farm arena, buy 1st wing of BRM, buy all of LOE in that order, as and when you have enough gold, you will earn packs naturally.

If you're willing to spend cash then just buy 1st wing of BRM with gold, LOE with cash and however many packs you wanna buy.
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>>150617491
False, it did cast Cursed! like in turn 10 or something. That is just on a really low priority.
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>>150617473
none of the cards are good, that's the problem
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>>150617605

Really? I've been running warlock games against it a lot and never seen it cast curse.
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>tfw no Rogue card with "Put a copy of the last spell cast in your hand" effect
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>>150617676
>rogue secret
>whenever your opponent casts a spell, add a copy of it to your hand
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I don't know how to stat balance so I didn't bother, but how's this?
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>>150617906
Thanks to the cost reduction you'd probably have to put it at high cost low stats, like a 4 mana 2/3
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>>150617974

Wow, maybe I am actually ok at it, I was thinking just that.
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>>150609906
>Give paladin OP shit

They already had their turn between TGT and Standard, at least let the other classes have their turn.
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>>150617906
I'd make it either a 3 mana 2/2 or a 4 mana 3/2
all the classes have at least 1 or 2 shit spells so the possibility to get a compelete dead card balances it out
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>>150617906
4 mana 2/4 like gnomish inventor. They made C'tun cards with vanilla body + effect without cost increase.
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>>150618230
fuck
meant to say shit cards, not spells
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>>150617906
remove the "It costs (1) less" and give it equal stats like 4-mana 4/4
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>>150618356
because rogue needs more shitty 4 mana 4/4s
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>>150615318
>>150615526
You two sound upset about something.

>>150616004
Yeah, I would've broken 1k if not for Lightbomb
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>>150618423
rogue doesn't need anything at all in the 2-3 mana slots and this card needs decent health with an "end of turn" effect
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fix'd
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they want me to pay 2800 gold for this shit? i would rather buy 28 tgt packs
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>>150618491
i fucking wish this monstrosity was in league of explorers so it would rotate out
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>>150617906
>mana tide totem in rogue with a discount
how about no
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>>150618639

That's a very specific dice roll.
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>>150618701
>rng to justify imbalance
Stop this
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>>150618780
you are not me
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>>150618780

I don't think you realize what you're doing. Do you know how many cards you're complaining about when you say things like this?
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and rightfully so, those cards are fucking retarded
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>>150615315
>>150615267

They are fucking cancerous in Wild though. I pretty much concede against Priest and Paladin to reduce my body salt content.
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>>150618917
Which cards?
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>>150604248
>People are calling this bad

Of course, but man this card is good from a design perspective. The effect let's multiple strategies form based on how greedy you are, big spells being high yield but being extremely slow and potentially punishable. Small spells let you flood the board but a good AoE could leave you resource-less and overextended.

But far more important than that is a target for weapon removal in the non weapon class match-ups. I love it, indirectly hits some of the strongest classes.
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Why do I get the feeling there are so many bots on ladder again?

>static playstyles
>constant pauses/delays
>no emotes
>never concede
>constant coin misplays
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>>150619370
literally me
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>YOUR OPPONENT LEFT
Every dragon warrior on ladder, why are they all so salty?
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>>150619275
quite a few, but my the ones I hate the most are the shaman variable damage spells that give you something overcosted if you roll low and something undercosted if you roll high
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>>150619370

>Flicks through cards
>Does nothing till rope
>I give up
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>>150619582
why is 60% of ladder warrior

this isn't a MAN ZOO IS LIKE 99% OF LADDER post, it's legitimately somewhere around that figure. Mostly worgen, a lot of dragon and a few pirates. No control at all.

rank 6-4
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>>150619954
>>150619582
didn't mean to quote you there my man, sorry for the bunk (You)'s
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>>150619716
What? How so? Crackle was overpowered and everyone acknowledged that, at worse it's a Darkbomb that overloads you by 1, at best it's a spellpowered Fireball that cost 1 less in total.

Lightning Storm too, at worst it's a Consecration that cost one more, at best it's a Hellfire that doesn't kill your minions.
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>>150619954
it's actually 25% but it's still cancer.
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>>150620068
yeah I figured that out senpai, thanks for the (You)s
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>>150604072
am i really going to get mad when I queue into another discard warlock three weeks from now?
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>>150611930
>I got tired of the whole curve out or lose the game thing

I feel like this is every deck ever nowdays. If you don't draw your broken ass card for your deck for turn 1,2,3 even 4 you are boned and dead before turn 6
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Starting to feel bad, first Murloc Knight spawned a second one and I steamrolled from there. Rolled two Warleader right before Flamestrike turn for lethal. Disgusting.
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>>150620671
Discard warlock will never be a thing
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>>150620801
And you have tirion, to add insult to injury
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>>150620801
why are you playing in japanese
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>>150620671
It's a meme deck and will die shortly after full release
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Guess who, both legos
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>>150621239
yogg
boogey monster
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>>150621239
malkorok
cho'gall
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>>150621239
I CAN WAIT AND FISH ALL DAY

JADE SERPENT GUIDE YOU
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>>150621287
NEVERMIND IM RETARDED
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>>150621271
yogg isnt bad you retard
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>>150621239
I am the dankest knight
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>>150621271
>>150621275
>>150621287
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>>150621470
At least it's golden
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>>150621470
You said there would be two legos???
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>>150621470
Jesus, I'd like 1/3rd of that luck
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>>150621470
wow a useful one and a lego of your choice
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>>150620768
That's why I stopped playing so much last month. I barely made rank 12 after getting at least 5 or better every season. It's pretty boring and feels like you have little to no control over the game.
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>>150621470
NICE LA
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>>150620961
I have a feeling my luck will run out soon and I will be drawing dead every turn. Second MK into2 1/3s into 2 Warleaders to close the game before he has a chance to Flamestrike is pretty much the pinnacle of my RNG luck.

>>150621118
For weeaboo street creds, it's not like you don't know all the cards by now.
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>>150621470
Ragnaros and a legendary of your choice. Nice pack Anon.
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>>150621470
I'm jelly. Herald my suck but his golden looks so sexy
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>>150621470

>Excellent Lego and a mountain of dust

Fuck off m8
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>make a yogg'n'load hunter because of a quest
>queue into a weird-ass control priest with Holy Champion
>drop T10 Yogg because the board state was even at the time
>shadow madness + 2x charge into his Auchenai that survives
>thistle tea into 3x Freezing Trap
>play emperor discounted LnL next turn
>get one more freezing trap
>priest only plays big minions afterwards
>mfw I had Eaglehorn equipped the whole time
rank 18 is such a wonderful place
remember to upboat and subscribe
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>>150604248
Giving weapons to every class will be great,.
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I finally got it /hsg/ i understood how to arena.
With 150 gold , got 580 now with a clean arena run to go.
Before whispers i hated arena and never did it.

But now goddamn its hilarious and i have done 8 runs so far with only 1 being below 5 wins and 5 of them 7+ wins.
Got the worst hunter deck , but somehow got deathwing as my 30'th card and seriously this single card got me 9 wins , win condition in every single one.

So is this is it huh? how never running out of gold and dust feels like.
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>>150622224
t. Harrison Jones
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I like this card.
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>>150622410
>discardlock
Into the trash it goes. Will never see play.
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>>150622410

My only complaint is that it should have a higher mana cost.

a 3 mana 3/3 is acceptable at least. This card should come at a drawback so if you don't have a discard effect it hits your tempo slightly harder.
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>>150622510
Why not? You get insane value. You have a great, 1,2,3 drop and a Deathwing at 10 to summon and deal tons of damage.
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>>150622538
Class card are allowed to be better, that said, 3 3 3 is weak for vanilla.
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>>150622538
3/3 is bad. The average 3 drop vanilla is 3/4. But a 0 mana 3/3? That's great.
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>>150622662

I know it's weak but it's not terrible. Like Fist of Jaraxxus's 4 for 4, I feel any card that is basically free with Discard should be really weak when played vanilla.
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>>150622603
Because discard is random.
Your 1 drop will discard your 3 drop leaving you with a subpar 3 mana 3/3 and nothing to play turn 2.

Discardlock can't work properly until you can pick which card to discard. Discards being random on top of cards that synergies with discard being rarer than legos and on top of the random draw means you will rarely see the thing you want happen happen. Most of the times you will see cards you need getting discarded.

I understand that this would be OP if you could pick the card you want to discard because turn 1 that and the minion you summon would be insane, but as it is, it's weak. I would rather play any other Warlock deck than Discardlock. Unless this adventure is full of cards that synergies with it, I don't see the archtype having a future even though Blizzard seems to really push for it.

The Imp seems to be a move in the right direction, this 3 drop seems to be a move in the right direction, but $20 says Blizzard will fuck everything up and make cards that buff Zoo more than any other Warlock deck, leaving Discardlock dead.
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>>150622881
Well that's the problem with discard decks. They are weak unless you discard them. The problem is that every other deck do not have a downside and is better in every way. A 3/3 wont work at 3 mana. But at 2 or 1? Probably.

>>150623015
Yogg is random too. I will try it at least. What is the worst that can happen? Have fun?
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>Meming on aggro shaman with anyfin secret paladin somehow
>get dc, lose a rank

epic simply epic

remember to support my patreon
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>>150623015
>Your 1 drop will discard your 3 drop leaving
discard your 2 drop is what I meant to say.

>>150623095
Yogg relies on you using your already strong spells and doesn't randomly fuck with your deck, removing cards at random for a small stat boost. And Yogg is pretty much a meme card because of how much random it is and how it can turn the tides of a game completely around. Discard is random, but at best it can get you a few more stats. At worst it will leave you with nothing to play.
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feelio when you made a decision to take 6 damage from huckster to starve the rogue and it won you the game
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>>150622738
Average statline for X mana is X/X + 1 point worth of stats in Attack, Health or text. X/X+1 is usually the best variant outside 1 drops and count as premium stats (see yeti). Game is so fucked up that nothing beyond underpriced makes the cut.
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>draw cthun
>win
>don't draw cthun
>lose
fuck you blizzard just give me veklor already
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ITT: Anons who have never been on the receiving end of Hymn to Tourach
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>>150606968
Someone here posted almost the same card a couple days ago. Except it was 5 mana 4/3 or something
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>>150606968
>Cutlery still isn't a tribe
REEEEEE
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>>150622603
It is just inconsistent. In most cases you have 50% chance to get Silverware in your starting hand if you muligen for it aggressively. Than you have to have Discard card in your hand and when you play it you have like 1/4 chance that it discards Silverware and not any other card. Final best outcome is 4/3 and 3/3 on turn 2. Take for example Tuskarr Totemic which in best case will give you 3/2 and 3/4 on turn 3 without discard with similar if not better probability. If silverware had tag: always discard this card it would be good if not op but how it is now it is just bad. You would rather play normal zoo then random discardlock.
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>>150623632
Sure, but Let say you Little Knight of Evil then Succubus into Silverware Golem, that's great. Sure it's pretty scary, but I'm sure that you can make it work. All we need is a good mid range card. Like a "10 mana - 10/10 - If you discard this card, discard the rest of your hand and shuffle 7 random warlock cards into your deck"
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someone give me a midrange hunter deck to exclusively play to legend with
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>>150623513
It's not really a revolutionary idea
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Discard lock
4 mana 2/2
Text: If you are forced to discard a card, this card will always be discarded. [Probably OP but maybe do as well] Upon discarding this card, summon a Possessed Villager.


Now you can safely use Soulfire without fearing of discarding your Leeroy or Doomguard or even worse, Dark Peddler.

Lets be serious, Discardlock would be just a Zoolock with more of the early strong minions that discard cards. Also click until non are left captcha is more broken than Call of the Balance. It never works.
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>>150623986
>midrange card
>10 mana 10/10
> discard the rest of your hand and shuffle 7 random warlock cards into your deck
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What am i missing to make this work?
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Which class will see the highest use of The curator?
My guess is hunter
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>>150624470
>If you are forced to discard a card, this card will always be discarded.
Or
>If you're forced to discard a random card, discard this card instead.
Would be a better wording. I'm bad at this. But still better than a certain B.B.
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>>150623015
>Discardlock can't work properly until you can pick which card to discard.

But you already can

maybe you should try getting good. stop tapping maybe. How about you grow good RNG and start drawing good card you fuckin nerd.

I'll make this deck work with or without imp just watch.
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>>150611703
>no ram wrangler for hue hue hijinks when it pulls out a king krush
>no camel to pull out the 1 costing minions for free
>no fire trap to kill those pesky zoo decks
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>>150620768
This is the reason this game is so fucking easy and little to no skill involved.
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>>150624610
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>>150624509
Well that's not midrange card, but still. We need more powerful discard effects. Like "Discard a random card and summon a random minion of the same mana cost."
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>>150624941
I thought it was a mantis, but what the fuck is that thing?
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>log in
>reroll 40 gold quests
>finish 50-60 quests
>logout
>repeat
Nice game
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People thought this card was gonna be bad
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>>150624610
I'm really a fan of double deadly shot since half the time I need to use it on a medium priority like frothing or other 4 health target
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>>150625124
a sillythid
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who's the best of the worst? fucking rng
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>>150624941
Don't have her, won't she trigger the deal 1 damage deathrattle most of the time anyway?
Still missing sylvanas though, but i don't have her either.
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>>150625171
>log in
>reroll 40g quests
>finish 50-60g quets
>play a few more matches with fun decks
>get about 30~40g from this
>get FREE 80g from friends pretty much everyday
>logout
>repeat until Kara comes out

Feels comfy to me desu
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>>150625216
It's good because fiery war axe comes before it
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>>150625440
warrior>druid>priest
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>>150625440
Le man of extra mana crystals
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>>150604248
THIS ONE OF THE MOST SACRED AND ANCIENT WEAPONS IN LORE WHY IS IT NOT CONSIDERED LEGENDARY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>150624610
jackiechan is playing a n'zoth hunter deck on stream right now and doing well with it. you should check out his list.
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>>150625306
looks good, does it play good without any taunt? right now i feel the taunt really help me to get to turn 10 to bring out nzoth.
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>>150604248
wait it's a crow
I always thought it was some kind of pineapple because of the wow icon
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>dragon warriors putting in blackwing technician for no reason now
WHY
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>try to play something fun in casual
>aggro aggro aggro aggro aggro
Tryhard decks should be banned from casual.
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>>150604248
i think its extremely strong in control matchup. i wonder if it's possible to make a whole warrior deck that tries to abuse it with the upgrade, that pirate legendary that also upgrades weapon...
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>>150604248
>8 mana summoning stone: the weapon

People will think they can actually get off their wacky amazing turns with this
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>>150626124
>aggro
>tryhard
kill yourself cuck
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Fuck off Ben
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>>150604248
>equip Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian
ok, where's the "Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian" card, cause I'm not seeing it
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>>150625603
I guess I'll pick sylvanas
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>>150626380
>7/7 body
>cant kill the stone unless you run museum or ooze

shieldbearer go and stay go
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>>150626094
When you have 28 amazing cards in your deck, it won't matter if you have 2 turds in there.
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>>150626621
Everyone runs a tech ooze or harrison

If you don't you are a literal shieldbearer
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>>150625124
A wasp+mantis
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>>150626481
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>>150625603
>>150626530
not sure if Hogger or Ysera
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>free 60 gold

Thank you based god
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>>150627161
nice arena key faggot
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>>150626414
Aggro shaman and zoolock are both tryhard decks that don't belong to casual.
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>>150627338
Thanks?
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>Turn 1 coin + succubus + silverwaregolem
How do you respond?
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>>150627419
Youd have to pray it even discards it
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>>150627419
FWA
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>>150627419
>turn 1 discard imp
>turn 2 succubus into silverware
>turn 3 moroes

Literally unstoppable.
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>>150627419
say well played, escape, concede
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I know its going to be an absolute failure but who else gonna try DiscardLock?
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>>150627419
If I have an answer for either one, I use that. If I have no answer, concede.
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>make a perfectly playable 10 cost card
>make it cost 8 instead
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>>150627419
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>150627419
>Turn 1 coin + Undertaker + Leper Gnome
How do you respond?
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>>150627419
Well fought, I concede.

>>150627687
Me senpai
I've been trying to make it work since TGT
If Malchezaar, Malchezaar's Imp and Silverware Golem don't make this shit playable, nothing will
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>>150627904
lightning bolt earth shock.
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>>150626968
>2 legendaries
My last arena run had to choose between priest, hunter and druid. I went 3-3 with hunter and I didn't draft a single card that was above 5 mana cost, not a single secret or removal, fuck you. Hope you go 0/3 shitter
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>>150627904
I play two leper gnomes and use the Undertaker from my turn 1 to kill his.
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>>150613851
>:p
reddit get out.
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>>150625870
You mean like Gorehowl or Doomhammer? Or Ashbringer?

Settle down nerd
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>>150628232
>You can have TWO (2) DOOMHAMMERS in your deck
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>>150628202
Is this bait or do people actually forget what cards priests play beacause they're not on the ladder anymore?
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>>150628325
Yeah, the OG timeline doomhammer and the one from the Alternate timeline

:-)
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Coin Tiny Knight of Evil -> Turn 2 Succubus into Discard Silverware Golem -> 4/3 4/3 and a 3/3 on turn 2.

The dream
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>>150628232
ashbringer is legendary
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>>150628159
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20194638/sneaking-into-the-spire-8-4-2016

Here is the link
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>>150628159
Are they trying to replace the great dragons from blackrock to slow down dragon decks?

fine by me but that doesnt stop zoo
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>>150628159

>welcome to the dragon roost!

Why are they putting this when BRM will be leaving next year?
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>>150628159
So this is basically

>Please play Dragon Priest: the Museum Curator
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>>150628448
In most cases it would work like this:
>Coin Tiny Knight of Evil
>Warrior plays win axe and kills it
>Turn 2 Succubus into Discard my Soulfire
>Concede
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ive just very recently started to play hearthstone, i like warrior because that's what i play in wow

what's so good about fiery war axe?
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>>150628159
>face against aggro
>play this on turn 2, hoping for twilight guardian
>ysera, deathwing v2, nozdormu
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>>150628707

kek
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>>150628707
it's a 2 drop that kills two other 2 drops, basically

every warrior deck runs two
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>>150628707
2 mana, kill 2 early game drops.

It's just decent value.
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How the FUCK do I win more than 1-2 arena games.
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>>150628871
Watch arena streamers, look up arena tier lists
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>>150628159
>great effect
>bad stats, but better than museum curator
>neutral
Im conflicted. What dragons will even be left next year? Thats what we should be looking at
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>>150628467
MORE SLOW VALUE CARDS FOR PRIEST THAT DON'T HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE BOARD STATE HAHAHAHAAH
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>>150628707
Well look at Fireball. That's a very good card and it's basically 6 dmg to face for 4 mana. FWA is 6 dmg to face for 2 mana. It's fucking amazing.
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>>150628170
have a nice day :)
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>>150628519
Because Classic dragons are here forever.
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>>150628704
>>150628448
And yet faggots in this thread sperg out when I point out how unfair an advantage the player who goes 2nd has. I've said it again and I'll say it before. 2nd player deserves the coin OR an extra card, not both. Instead the system was designed by some overcompensating retard and the player who goes 2nd has a HUGE advantage which potentially can clinch the game 1st turn.
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>>150628986
The shit ones.
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>>150628871
pick rogue mage or paladin
pick the highest arenascore card on every option
you should be able to at least win 3 games, geez
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>>150628519
Well they have new dragons. Just like how Gorilla Mech came in when GvG was leaving.
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>>150629040

The only decent dragons are Azure Drake and perhaps one or two of the legos. What else?
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>>150628519
Classic dragons exist

and they have the ability to print more
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>>150629020
>hitting face with FWA
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>>150629042
You do know going second is more likely to result in a loss right? There are actual stats to back it up. Look up kripps video on it.
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>>150629253
I don't care that applies to like the 5% elite which nobody here is.
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mfw people think that discard warlock will be a thing

99% of the discard this card to play it cards sucks ass, I doubt it will be played at all.
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>>150629253
>Look up kripps video on it.
but isn't he talking about arena dude?
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>>150629357
Actually it applies to a sample size of several million arena matches. That's a bit more than the elite 5%
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>Redemption and Noble Sacrifice
>6/0 Paladin
Has the new meta made people mentaly defunct?
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>>150629357
when i was new i thought second was op but going first is just so good
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>>150628871
draft well and git gud
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>>150628159
It's a nice card. It really is. I wish I could like it, but it simply can't compete with aggro.

Fuck Blizzard. You could have such a fun game.
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>>150628986
Ysera, Deathwing, Deathwing 2, Faerie Dragon, Azure Drake, Nozdormu, Twilight Drake, Malygos, Onyxia, Scaled Nightmare, Alextrasza, Book Wyrm, Midnight Drake

The only dragons leaving are,
Dragonkin Sorcerer
Drakonid Crusher
Hungry Dragon
Twilight Whelp
Volcanic Drake
Dragon Consort
Colderra Drake
Chillmaw
Chrogmaggus
Nefarian
Blackwing Corruptor
Blackwing Technician
Alextrasza Champion
Wyrmcrest Agent
Twilight Guardian
Rend Blackhand
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>>150629548
>thinking about jacking my dong
>this gets posted
I mean THANKS, jesus
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>>150629042
https://twitter.com/bdbrode/status/722451034803535872

Now that's in constructed. In arena, going first is a huge advantage. Pic related. My TGT arena stats (7.15 wins on average across 61 runs).
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>>150629253
>>150629457
Arena isn't constructed.

Arena is pure tempo, so of course going first has an advantage. In constructed you could have a strategy where going second is better for you, for example, all of Rogue's early game cards are improved- some might say, are only viable- by having a Coin or an extra card in hand (for example, turn two coin into SI7).
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>>150629253
>>150629457
>>150629703
I feel like there are a lot of arena decks though (usu paladin) that get a major boost off getting to have a T1 play and getting the extra card to mulligan
maybe it's incorrect to draft those kinds of decks, and certainly there are other decks that slant similarly favored toward going first, but still
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>>150629447
>>150629771
Constructed is a smaller margin but its still a disadvantage. Same video.

Saying there are a few advantages to coin in certain situations doesnt make it universal. Having a turn 1 fwa is good but that doesnt mean its advantageous to go second.


>>150629624
I hope they print more dragons, thats a sad list.
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE DISCO THEMED CARDS

I WAS PROMISED BOOGEY WITHIN THE VICINITY OF MY BOOTY
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>>150629042
Eh, did you know that Blizzard admited that the one going 2nd has a higher chance of losing? The game is something like 55 to 45 in favor of the one going first.
Coin gives you one turn extra mana, but every other turn you're behind the opponent. Unless you actually make that one mana count a damn lot, you're at a disadvantage.
Seeing how almost every class has some early cheap yet good removal, it's hard making the coin count.
I mean, what's the card that doesn't fuck you up in some way and that you can coin out on turn 1 without it being killed right after you press end turn by win axe or frost bolt on turn 2?
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>>150629952
Well with Zoobot and Curator, they probably will.
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>>150628232
Why is that cat triggered?
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>>150629952
They'll probably print 3 dragons for Priest.
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>>150629925
Paladin is one of the classes that has the biggest difference in win rates between going first/second based on my stats. This probably has to do with the lack of removal options, as my mage games show no difference in win rates regardless of if I go first or second.
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>>150629457
Yeah it applies to the 5% elite they just tracked them over multiple games and compiled the data. Just some bullshit they try to sling so people who don't know about misleading statistic are taken for a fool and turn a blind eye to the bullshit advantage the player who goes 2nd has.
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>>150630354
>as my mage games show no difference in win rates regardless of if I go first or second.
In a mirror match, the mage going first has obviously an advantage because all you will be doing is reacting to his plays instead of taking the lead.

And yeah, going second as palading feels awful. Not only do you don't have early removals to react to the enemy's move, but also most of your 1 drops are awful solo when your enemy has 2 mana after you drop them.
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>>150630514
The elite 5% performs better with coin than the shittier players do.
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>try doing f2p

>constantly face c'thun decks with absurd drops

>almost no way to deal with constant taunts and divine shields

>finally gain board control

>C'thun is 1million/1million and wipes out all my minions

t-t-thanks
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>>150606038
I did both.
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So will we see a 3 tribal deck with Curator, dragons and Beast.
Could be cool in Zoo Hunter.
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>>150610635
Assuming you meant 'your' and not 'you're'
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>>150630514
>hard statistics in childrens card game are just top players lying for no benefit
Take off the tin foil.
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hearthstone = pay money or don't bother playing

blizzard really has gone downhill
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>>150630817
in casual yeah
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this whole adventure reminds me of shrek 2
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The problem with these new lulsoquirky 3-drops is that they are literally bad drops turn 3. I always second guess axing an Imp Gang Boss. A discard imp, not so much.
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>>150631140
yeah maybe if your a shitter. you can win with the basic face hunter deck.
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>>150631371
xd
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>>150631687
>>150631371
xdxdxd
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Considering that I cant find good free bot for Hearthstone I decided to shill out some money.
What are my choices?
Please help
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>>150604248
>coin medivh on turn 7
>call of the wild turn 8
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>>150631123
>people go through the trouble of compiling legitimate statistics for a childrens card game

Stick a quarter in your ass because you just played yourself. It's easy to make up false statistics as I was claiming, it takes much more time and effort to collect legitimate stats.
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>tfw I realize rogue is capable of healing almost 150 health
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>>150631918
>Anomalus summoned
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>>150632095
Fuck off weeb.

>>>/a/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/anywherebuthere/
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>>150631886
Well I would recommend buying Wrath of the Old gods and the new Karazhan. They are the best buy you can get.

Bot wise, Alarm-O-Bot is pretty good.
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>>150629970

>mfw there's a card that specifically interacts with Boogeymonster
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>>150631886
>paying for Hearthstone

Nigga, no. Spending money on literally anything else in the world is better than spending money on Hearthstone. This game is complete trash right now, and will stay trash forever due to fundamental design flaws that Blizzard both overlooked and allowed into the current version of the game.

They knew the F2P market ws only viable if you play lots of sounds and make things go BOOM and WHOOOSH and sparkle and stuff, so that's exactly what they did. They want gamblers and children to buy packs, and that's all they care about. As a game, Hearthstone is trash. As a business model, of course, it's brilliant, but only because people are still lapping up Blizzard's shit without pause.
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>>150632313
I like this guy
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>>150632165
>>150631918
>kelthuzad summoned
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>>150632395
No I meant
I decided to shill some money to buy BOT for hearthstone.
Theres no way I am giving blizzard my shekels.
I just wanted to know which bot is best.
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>>150631140
I can't say anything about the f2p start right now
But I'm f2p and started some time before TGT came out and I've been having fun since
You should wait for the next big expansion, maybe they will give more free shit
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>>150631140
Trump got legend in a month with a new account. Why didn't you?
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>>150632629
>you can reach legend without paying you just have to play 8h a day XD
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>>150632629
Trump played the game with a complete account for years for 8 hours a day

Trump disenchanted every card to make the most efficient deck

if you are doing these things, you are a fucking retard, because 1 you are playing one deck all the time, you arent collecting any cards and you are playing for thousands of hours a year

thats autistic as fuck
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>>150628707
It's the only good method of dealing the overstatted early game aggro minions. Obviusly aggro faggots aren't happy about the fact that their precious Tunnel Trogg, Mana Wyrm, and Void Caller can be dealt with without their opponent completely losing hand advantage and tempo.

Aggro players are so used to being favored in this game that they regard anything that gives their competition a fighting chance as overpowered. Aggro players want every deck to either be aggro, Paladin/Priest tier trash where you pass til turn 4, play your ass midrange minion, and die by turn 6 or 7 to burst from hand if you even manage to clear their sticky trash.
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Anyone else fucking around at the low ranks for gold until the expansion comes out?

Bullying shitters at rank 16 with this deck right now.
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>>150632476
Kelthuzad is not in standard though.
You have a 1/14 chance to summon Anomalus out of a Summoning Stone right now. with a 8 mana spell.
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>>150632787
why must you shitpost so, anon-san
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>>150631992
Im sorry for however you live your life.
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>>150626094
It's good in the mirror, and that deck is so popular that teching for the mirror is a thing.
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When does Karazhan go up for preorder? Everwhere online says a week from launch but there's nothing up today.
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>>150632787
Yet, aggro survives despite Win Axe. It's midrangy antiaggro decks from other classes that can't survive competition with warrior and its OP removal and minions.
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>>150628707
3 Health is most of the early minions. For 2 Mana, you can kill 2 minions. That's great value.
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>>150633087
Ben brode stated that there will be no preorders
You only get the cardback if you buy the whole expasion with money when it comes out
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>>150632785
His deck costs 1920 total. Considering you're likely to unpack a lot of the cards from the first dozen packs you open, it'll cost even less, so there'll be no real need to disenchant things.

But I suppose this is a case of
>WHY DO I HAVE TO PUT IN EFFORT TO GET THINGS. THIS IS UNFAIR
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What's a cheap, fun deck to start playing? I basically have no cards whatsoever. The rarest thing I have is Cairne.
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>>150622378
Attention all shitters: this is a prime example of how to git gud
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>>150633087
There is no "preorder" per say, but you can buy the whole shitfest when it launches, giving you the cardback.
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>>150633387
Zoo.
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>>150633376
>His deck costs 1920 total.
>adventure cards are free

you cucks are hilarious

anyone that would bring up fucking trump to defend blizzard is retarded

you are literally bringing up the .1%

its like saying
>this athlete is one of the best in the world, anyone can do that

when clearly it isnt the case because things dont work that way
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>>150633542
kill yourself
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So, it's the 4th adventure, surely by now they know how to handle an adventure release, right? Can we expect the servers to work properly this time?
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>>150633387
Hunter always have the cheapest viable decks. A bunch of commons and you can beat even the pay2win decks going face.
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>>150633618
Considering theyre getting server issues everyday for the last week i doubt it.
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>>150633618

>Can we expect Blizzard's servers to not roll over and die during a content release?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
There is nothing more satisfying than beating a wallet warrior by removing every precious little legendary of his.
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>>150633583
He had no adventure cards in his f2p deck.

And it's funny how hearthstone goes from "literally no skill required, only rng and good cards" to "well he's a pro" when it fits the argument.
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>>150633618
>>150633752
Dont expect to play for at least 12-18 hours after launch.
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what game can replace Hearthstone
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>>150633869

Overwatch

[Palms rubbing in the distance]
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>>150633802
someone that invests thousands of hours into something has a higher chance of being better at it than someone that invests hundreds

thats common fucking sense

what is also common fucking sense is if you spend money on hearthstone you will have an easier time than someone that has been playing for the same amount of time and spends no money
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>>150633605
It's cheap and offers a decent amount of choice in both what cards you play and what you do with your board.
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New card :^)
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>>150633869
>>150633980

if you have friends Overwatch is pretty great desu. I play it a lot more than HS atm
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>>150633869
Okay, that one made me laugh.
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>>150633373
What if i buy one wing with gold and rest with money so i have to pay maybe 13€? Does that count too?
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>>150633984
I have some advice for you then

git gud
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>>150634009
Yeah, it's a great card.
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>>150634009
What the fuck did you do to that image boy.

You're also late.
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>>150634143
I have some advice for you, summer school
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haha this general is so fast :s
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>>150634136
>Does that count too?
As far as I know, no.
You have to buy the whole thing with money.
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>>150634295
>hearthstone = pay money or don't bother playing
This is what we started with.

Looks like it would be more accurate like this

hearthstone = git gud or don't bother playing
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>>150634009

>Netherspite Historian
>In an adventure that didn't feature Netherspite as a legendary

BRAVO BEN
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>>150634423
W o w thats gay.
So whats better then?
>full price + cardback
>1 wing with gold and rest with real money - cardback?

I dont have money problems but i am kind of a jew.
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>Dude just grind through the losses with your suboptimal deck lol
Do people really defend this?
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>>150634652
Blizzdrones will defend anything
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>>150634652
Yes blizzdrones do

But we know this shit isnt working because Hearthstone has been giving out tons of shit since standard

the game is doomed to fail because it cant retain new players faster than its losing old ones
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>>150634584
if you really want the cardback, go for it senpai
I'm buying everything with gold because I'm f2p
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>>150634543
Pretty sure Netherspike will be somewhere in there. They have yet to say that it's all the legendaries we are getting right?
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>>150634652
Of course, somehow you have to get those easy wins :^)
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>>150634009
>Discovering Alexandra, Malygos, Noz, Ysera, EITHER DEATHWING, Nefarian, among others.
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>>150634736
What ever, like i will miss that money so much.
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>>150634743

Nope. We've got our five.

Barnes
The Curator
Moroes (WTF)
Malchezaar
Medivh
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is anyone else unable to log into battle net?
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>>150634009
discover means you get to pick right?
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>>150634894
Get out.

you pick from 3, similar to tracking
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>>150634876
Have they said 5? Why could we not have 6?
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>>150633869
Spellweaver. Or just fuckin' go play Magic the Gathering. Hell, Yu-Gi-Oh is better than Hearthstone.
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>>150633376
effort =/= autistic gridning
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>>150635108
Is spellweaver still not dead? It had a lot of good ideas but the execution just sucked ass.
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>>150635029
So we just dont know.

But it's cool that everybody is getting Prince Malchezaar for free.
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>>150635029

I mean, we COULD.

It's just never happened in adventures before. Feugen and Stalaag don't count because they were a combo reward. We've had five unique legendary rewards per adventure.
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So Netherspite is going to be a legendary right?

They have to add more neutral dragons right?
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Karazan will be the TGT of Adventures.
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>>150635521
I could see "9 Mana, 8/8, Cast a random Portal spell"
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>>150634814
>We'll see Nozdormu played here and there thanks to this card
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>>150635269
Just had its first expansion release last week, and purple and black finally aren't irresponsibly overpowered (although blue has become a complete cunt in their absence). I think it's better than Hearthstone right now, to be honest. At least in Spellweaver, I feel like my opponent can make a mistake and I've got the chance to come back. In HS, if you lose any tempo whatsoever in turns 1-4, you're pretty much screwed..
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So, how many cards left to reveal?
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4 mana 7/7
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>climbing with reno mage
>vs garrosh!
>turn 1 coin FOR THE LIFE BINDER and Inner Rage
>20 hp at turn 2
>get to reno early though
>starts spamming emotes after playing deathwing
>topdecks slam into kor'kron to kill my mirror images (he had skill axe)
>proceeds to topdeck 2 drakonid crushers in a row
>yogg clears his board besides deathwing, he starts spamming well played like a retard even though i have an obvious ice block
>right as im about to kill him i dc

Thankfully I connected right before the rope ended and destroyed him.
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>>150636000

>"So Shaman's in a bit of a pickle right now. How do we fix it?"
>"WE GIVE THEM A MINION THAT'S NEAR-IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE FOR ITS MANA COST AND BUFFS A MANDATORY 1-DROP HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

Can't wait to see how they buff Priest. Just give them a legendary that triggers proto-Rafaam's adventure effect and steals your opponent's deck at the start of the game.
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I swear if we get no pirates this adventure
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>>150635108
Downloading now, let's see how it goes.
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>>150636463
what? you're going to run into an elevator and look disapproving?
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>>150635929
19/45.
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>>150636302
fun fact almost every class can kill a 4 mana 7/7 on curve
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>>150635392
So they showed almost all the cards already? Damn kinda disapointed so far.
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>>150636570
>being this literal
what are you, an autist?
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>>150636623
Using only one card? I doubt.
Also what most shaman's do now days is throw the 7/7 only to bait removals as he plays bigger threats later on.
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>>150635653
TGT isn't even bad. It just got overshadowed by the OP she from Nax and GvG. The only way TGT would stand out would be with some serious power creep.
Quite a few TGT cards see regular play.
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>>150636302
>an actual nigger priest

I'd be ok with that
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>>150636623
Yeah, now deal with trogg, golem, 3 mana 5/5 with taunt, wolves, tuskar, burst damage and hold ooze for doomhammer on top of that
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>>150636659
They have a bunch more.
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>>150636882
k
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>>150636840
TGT brought nothing but crap, secret shitters, Justicar Tankup and layed the foundation for OP shaman and dragon warrior decks. It was the worst.
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>>150636882
This anon doesn't have Flamestrike in every of his decks, including Zoo.

No, but seriously. 477 is a stupid play on curve. In fact, it's impossible in the perfect scenario of Trogg, totem, coin and spooky puppies. The power of 477 comes later in the game when you just drop 2 of them and deal 2 damage to unlock all the crystals.
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>wake up
>check new reveal
>no priest yet
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>>150637123
Good boy, Garrosh. You'll get a buff in this set.
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>>150636882
Just play dragon warrior.
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>>150637230
Wait, you didn't see Ben's twitter response?
Priest isn't getting cards this adventure in order to keep the creative brainstorming of creating a viable Priest deck continue.
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>>150637220
>he coins the wolves and not the totem golem

are you fucking stupid or just a shieldbearer?
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>>150637230
dragon priest got a small treat
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>>150637553
he's a weeb who thinks the faceless is a bad play on curve
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>>150637230
>mfw its more unplayable shit
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>>150636659
They've shown 16/45
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>>150637332
thanks nerd but i play more than one class
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>paladin sees less play than priest for the majority of the expansion
>only priests bitch in every thread
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>>150637824
Whatever you say
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>>150637553
Why the fuck would you coin the golem instead of playing trogg turn 1 then golem turn 2?
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Thanks to WotOG, I'm suddenly only 70 wins away from a golden warrior. Holy shit.
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>>150637854
Priest players can't move on
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BUT MY DREAMS ARENT AS EMPTY
AS MY CONSCIOUS SEEMS TO BE
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>>150637937
because innovate spider tank is the strongest play in the game, nerd
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>>150637854
I'm not even a priest fanboy but to be fair paladin was quite strong for a while.

priest was never good except in the open beta when they had to nerf mind control because it was absolutely broken.
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>>150637980
nice, it's a great portrait that upsets bad players
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>>150637937
post your quest log screen pls.
if you're honestly a shieldbearer I might explain.
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>>150638193
Shitters who abused MC don't care about paladin as a class. Many players didn't use him.
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>>150638193
Priest is very strong in adventures
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>>150638127
Dont worry priest will get next expansion Muster for dragons, shielded mini-dragon and Flamewreathed Dragon. Making worse class op is the only way Blizzard knows how to balance. Right now is Shaman turn, Priest is next.
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NZoth paladin is still playable without shitting the bed
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>>150638472
it really is incredible how many heroic adventure bosses are the most easily defeated by inner fire priest.
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>>150638638
Who cares about 30 min per game snorefest deck?
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>>150637230
>>150637414
Hope is lost
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>>150638193
Actually, they admitted that the MC nerf was just because of casuals complaining.

excerpt:
"Mind Control’s cost is changing to 10, up from 8. Mind Control can be frustrating to play against, and is dominating play at the lower ranks. This should allow opponents playing versus a Priest to have a couple more rounds to make use of their high cost minions before they have a sudden change of mind."
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>>150638334
Alright you caught me I'm not that good, however the season did just reset.

I would actually appreciate an explanation though.
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>>150638881
And then priest would complain why everybody play fast decks with burst damage instead of giving priestt juicy targets for MC.
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>>150638815
>some classes are boring to play and arent good because they dont have new and exciting cards
>so instead of improving them we are just ignoring that they exist and giving the already good classes better and stronger decks
I usually dont worry about what Brode says, but that is really stupid.
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>>150623986
>>150622603
>>150623095
Hearthstone players are so disproportionally stupid i don't know what to say. Almost everyone here needs MTG bootcamp.
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>>150639219
It's fake.
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How far can the deck go? I'm aware i lack removal, but the trades and tempo so far has been killed with the 1-drops, 2-drops and 4-drops.

+ Silvermoon Guardian
+ Tomb Pillager
+ Violet Teachear
+ Darkscale Healer
+ Mukla's Champion
+ TRADE PRINCE GALLYWIX HERE
+ Volcanic Draké
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>>150635392
>But it's cool that everybody is getting Prince Malchezaar for free.
It's more likely that the free wing will only give the bid and the portal and malchezaar will be together with medivh in the final wing, just like you got elise and rafaam at the end of loe.
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>>150639198
priest doesn't stand a chance against any combo deck though
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>>150639219
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>>150637937
It can fuck over some classes. For example, if you play trogg on 1 against a dragon warrior, he might just play alexstrasza's champion and eat it for free. If you had coined out a totem golem instead, he wouldn't be able to do shit with it, except go face and then get eaten on your next turn. Axe is similar, trogg dies to it immediately, totem golem requires a hit and a followup (ghoul on T3 if lucky).

Obviously, there are cases where it fucks you over. Coin out your golem, and your opponent plays a doomsayer. You have no realistic counters (earth shock is pretty rare in this meta). With a trogg, you can possibly kill the doomsayer (some kind of combination of lightning bolt, rockbiter, flametongue), and if not, at least your 5/5 taunt will cost 1 less because of a hero power.

It's matchup and hand dependent.
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>>150639521
i was had. I have so little faith in this game its scary
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>>150639554
killer*
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>>150639554
Fast rogue deck with good card quality.

12.
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>>150639585
Yeah, shoots himself in the leg with that annoying spell. IIRC priest had no chance against miracle rogue.
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>>150639094
trogg on turn 1 won't last you enough for the wolves buff.

no class can deal with a totem golem on turn 1 without a coin, and since you coined it, they don't have it.
rogues can sap it but it's a horrible play and if they do they pretty much lose the game.

chances are the trogg won't last you from turn 2 to 3 either, but that way the oponent has to waste a turn and their removal on the trogg instead of the golem, which already pushed 3 damage to face, and will do it atleast one more time, compared to the 1 damge on turn 2, to a possible 2 damage on turn 3 from the trogg.

that's infinitely better than playing the trogg first because you would only buff him for 1 attack anyways which isn't good.

and if you get your totem golem behind wolves it's still good because it has 1 more health than the trogg.
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>>150639602
>>150639824
Thanks, that explains a lot.
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>>150639824
>no class can deal with a totem golem on turn 1 without a coin, and since you coined it, they don't have it.

uhhh....if you coined it then it means you go second which means their next turn is turn 2 so that's a complete nonsense statement
spastic
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q
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>Top Tier
Kara Kazham
Barnes
Kindly Grandmother
Netherspite Historian


>Potential Tier
Medivh, the Guardian
Protect the King
Moroes
Enchanted Raven
Babbling Book
The Curator
Zoobot


>Meh Tier
Prince Malchezaar
Ethereal Peddler
Firelands Portal

>Garbage Tier
Book Wrym
Ivory Knight
Pompous Thespian
Silverware Golem
Malchezaar's Imp
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I have just read the whole thread, and why are there so many retarded people thinking that LoE is rotating out next year, or that the next rotation happens with karazhan? Are you stupid?

Next year TGT and BRM rotates out. Nothing rotates this month.

WoG and LOE rotate early 2018.
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>>150640095
anon..
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>>150640062
>prince malchezaar above anything

nah
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>>150640095
>Justicar will rotate
>Priest will be shittier than ever
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>>150640095
LoE rotates out next year since it was released in 2015
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>>150640095

LoE Rotates out in 2017. Brode himself confirmed that.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/1494-league-of-explorers-will-be-rotated-in-2017-not
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>>150640062
>prince malchezaar not in kill yourself tier
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>>150604248

>play 8 mana war golem
>die next turn
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>>150640062
>ivory knight and book wyrm in garbage tier
>protect the king in potential
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>>150640014
I'm not gonna fall for it m8
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>>150640095
>LOE rotate early 2018.
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>>150640354

>a 6 mana 4/4 that will almost always heal you for 1

>better than being able to fill your board with taunts against a zoolock
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>>150640446

oh so you're just pretending to be retarded

epic
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>>150639824
>no class can deal with a totem golem on turn 1 without a coin
Priest: SW:P
Warrior: Ichor+Execute
Warlock: Their 1 drop combined with some things.
Neutral: Doomsayer

The not so good plays:
Rogue: Prep+evis
Warlock: Soulfire
Mage: Double arcane blast
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>>150636882
literally all you need to do is play FWA, Blood to Ichor, and Ravaging Ghoul.
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>>150640354
How will 4/4 Heal for 4 save you against full aggro board?
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>>150640687
>2 mana cards
>turn 1
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>>150640095
>Thinking blizzard will allow you to use a expansioin/adventure for 2 years

>Thinking they will not make the cards you bought with money/gold useless as soon as possible

anon... I have bad news for you. That's the main reason they created standard, to not allow you to plan for the long term when you spend gold / dust on cards.

They want to make the value of your gold and dust limited for a short period of time.
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>>150640740
What if you don't play warrior, zoo or shaman? I know it sounds crazy but still.
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>>150640889
Why
>>
I need 80 gold.Does anyone have a quest of 80 gold? add me : BestMageEU#2304
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>>150640889
Let's go through the sequence of events, anon.

Your turn 1.
Opponents turn 1. He coins out totem golem.
Your turn 2.
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>>150640889

>a coined Totem Golem

>c o i n e d

They already had their first turn you fucking retard. Their answer to Golem comes on turn 2.
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>>150640889
The other guy got the coin. He played TG after your turn one. Your first opportunity to respond is turn 2...
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>>150640671
I responded to the wrong post

brode said it was 2018, the said he was bad at math

i meant to respond to the OP>>150640095
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>>150640889
>shaman coins out golem on turn 1
>it means you have 2 mana next turn
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>>150640976
>What if you don't play warrior
Then you don't get to play the best 2 drop and best 3 drop in standard.
>>
>having anything in top tier
>having kara kazham in that category

wew lad
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>>150639765
>Que into the same nigger shaman nigger with nigger control cards like it's motherfucking constructed
I'm just a little bit mad
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Do people still play Patron Warrior?
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>>150640687
>facing a priest

doomsayer is the only real threat, if you coin the totem golem against a zoo that played a one drop you're retarded.

the rest are shit plays and if they do it they pretty much instatly lose the game.
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>>150640516
>>150640817
How will an 8/8 heal 8 for 8 save you against full aggro board?

Its about the healing. Paladin can wipe a board and fully restore health the turn after. Ivory Knight is yet another card that can heal face. Enough of those heals can give Paladin enough of a buffer to pull off the board wipes and big heals like Forbidden Healing or Lightnaros.

The 1 mana secret thing could sink it, but don't write it off.

>>150641025
So what's the point in saying 'turn 1 without a coin'? What difference does it make? Seriously, what did he mean by this
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>>150640062
>Prince Malchezaar above any other card
>Kara Kazham top tier
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>paladin will never get good midrange minions again

JUST
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>>150641449
it's just worse tempo warrior which is just worse dragon warrior so not really
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>>150641449
sometimes
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>>150641565
TWO ARMS MEN
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>>150641452
I meant that you played YOUR totem golem on YOUR first turn, how difficult is it to understand?
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>>150641452
It doesn't, Rag seals the deal once you cleared enemy minions and slapped him on the board. You can very well die despite 8 hp. Healing is way worse than killing minions in time and not taking additional damage from them.
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>>150641451
Ichor+Execute is hardly a shit play as dragon warrior.
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>>150641267
>>150641493

>zoolock doesnt want a card that spams minions on the board

nigga have you played this class before

you realize they run forbidden tentacles right
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>>150641763
You're right, that's why Zoo runs Silver Hand Knight.
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>>150641763
Zoolock doesn't play 5 mana 6/6 silver hand knight
>>
Looking for someone else w/ the play a friend quest.

Let's get fuckin' rich together (no homo)

Niflheim#1911 - 'Murikas
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>>150641749
>wasting an execute for a totem golem

it's a shit play.
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>>150641873
>>150641859

>2 minions
>versus 3 minions

a fucking MASSIVE difference for a zoo deck.
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>gold / dust is not at a multiple of 10
>would have to play an arena run to fix it
why the fuck do they do this to me
I wish units of 5 weren't even in the fucking game
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>>150609906
And Mage/Rogue/Druid let you have infinite removal, Hunter puts every game on a clock, Warrior has infinite health gain, Paladin has infinite pressure, etc.

All you did was describe Heal's utility, you didn't explain how that's actually better to any quantifiable degree. Therefore, your argument can't be called objective.

I am saying that a 2 mana heal is downright valued less on cards than the other hero powers. Witch Doctor's body is strictly better than Elven Archer's, yet he's less useful (neither are played but Archer gets picked in Peddler more often), and being targeted instant 2 healing definitely didn't make it better than Leper Gnome's 2 face damage deathrattle (which even needed to be nerfed because it was so good). All targeted healing has that "let your minions trade multiple times" utility but that hasn't changed the fact that nobody has ever considered that utility worth putting into their deck, meanwhile things like card draw and targeted damage are ubiquitous and burn is key for aggro decks.
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>>150642004
One of these minions dies to Ghoul and ping
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>>150642004
still really unlikely that zoolock plays it

it's 5 mana and not at all sticky
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>>150641914
why you have so much gold saved up?
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>>150641958
retard
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>>150642123
>not having enough gold to buy the entire expansion
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>>150641958
You clearly don't understand the importance of early tempo in a dragon warrior aggro shaman matchup. If you get the board early as warrior, you're basically guaranteed to win.
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>>150642123
because this game has barely any content worth spending gold on? not him
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>>150642123
Are you serious
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>>150642084
>>150642091

Zoo plays Forbidden Ritual. ALL of those minions die to ghoul and ping.

You're thinking about the card in a vacuum and not in relation to the other cards zoolock runs. Councilman? Juggler? Dire Wolf Gormok? Argus?
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>>150641749
dragon warriors will pretty much never had those 2 cards in their hands by turn 2 though.
and if they do, they're in trouble.
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Post the best card so far
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>>150642364
Forbidden ritual is flexible. A 5 mana card isn't.
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>>150641681
Does it matter if it's me or my opponent removing a Totem Golem with 2 mana? What the fuck is this discussion
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Rate my OC

I think it could be a really fun
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>>150642364
Forbidden Ritual can be played at any mana cost and spawn as many minions as you need with right order of play. It mitigates vulnerability to Ghoul.
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>>150642412
how is that even remotely good?
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>>150642412
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>>150642412
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>>150642364
with the possible exception of gormok, all the cards you listed synergize with literally anything
why bother making space for a do nothing 5 drop
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>>150642030
>2 mana heal
2 damage heal*
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>>150640889
>Weeb
>says dumb retarded shit.

Typical.
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>>150642291
>>150642305
i always spend all my gold on 1-3 arena runs
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>>150642492
holy fuck you're stupid.

>no class can deal with a totem golem on turn 1
the totem golem is comming out on turn 1, which means it's the opponent's turn 2, you fucking idiot.
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>>150642412
>not Barnes & Noble
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>>150628519
Karazhan has two Dragons in it already that will surely get cards. You got Netherspite and Nightbane. They could totally pull some out of their asses too.
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>>150642409
It happens. It being somewhat uncommon doesn't make it a bad play though. Obviously you'd prefer something like FWA and Ghoul in hand so you could just hit the golem and ghoul the next turn, but sometimes you don't have that combo, and your only other choice is to play an alexstrasza's champion that would just get eaten.

And regardless of what my hand has been like, I've yet to lose to a single aggro/midrange shaman this season as dragon warrior. Only shaman loss has been to bogchamp, and I'm at rank 5 at the moment.
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Nova + Doomsayer into Thaurissan into Medivh is insane to be honest.
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>>150642948
How do you lose money in the arena? Am i just sincerely fantastic at this game?
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>>150642565
should have been a five mana 5/5. sure, there's the dream of imp -> succubus(soulfire) -> this, but it's highly unlikely and not that big of a reward. but then again all my opponents seem to curve perfectly..
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>>150643137
No sir, please, be dishonest.
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>>150643063
>You got Netherspite and Nightbane

buddy we already have 5 legendaries.
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>>150643086
>I'm at rank 5

if I were you I'd try to get a life or something
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>>150643021
Now I've read through the comments chain, it's just horribly worded and completely pointless. It's not turn 1, it's turn 2. If you're asking me to deal with it, it's turn 2, and no coin.

And even then, Shadow Word: Pain is the instant answer, I don't get it.
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>>150643406
what if they make them ebin
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>>150643086
Yes, for some reason they have made it so that Dragon Warrior can trade extremely profitably with every single card Shaman has.
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>all 3 warlock cards shown
>not a single priest card

have you ever seen a class get so cucked before
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>>150643501
alright, enjoy being a shieldbearer.
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>Get two legendaries in one pack
>It's hallazeal and hogger
I guess it's still two legenderies but still...
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Is crusher/bogchamp shaman good or is it a meme deck?
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>>150643501
Just to further drive the point home, if it's from the persective of the Shaman, it's Totem Golem turn 1 WITH a coin.

If it's from the opponent's perspective, it's turn 2. I literally have 2 mana.

>>150643691
This general makes me lose brain cells.
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>"Book Wyrm isn't amazing? Shadow Word: Pain is a really powerful removal spell in the class that specializes in removal spells, and Book Wyrm is basically that 2 mana card slapped onto a solid 4 drop (3/6 dragon).
I think the biggest problem with Book Wyrm is that in the coming months many Book Wyrms will die to the abilities of other Book Wyrms."
>Someone actually typed this

Also, why does Medivh's face look so weird?
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>>150643772
it's very good

it's no dragon warrior but you can ladder with it
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>>150643816
its the funky party medivh
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>>150643816
He is high
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still wondering about the ones on left and right
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>>150643816
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>>150643693
they could both be worse they can find places in niche decks shut the fuck up you ungrateful lucky piece of shit
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>>150643967
that qt on the left
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>>150642635
wow you are not intelligent
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>>150643967
It's the boss cards for the Romulo and Julianne fight, they showed boss cards in the other adventure trailers too.
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What's the best beast druid deck?

and don't tell me there isn't one
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>>150643967
romeo and juliet
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>>150643992
>niche deck
>in current meta
From rank 20 till legend you can pretty much tell the enemy entire deck list by looking at tempostorm.
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>>150643967

Romulo and Julianne, from the opera event. Not actual cards, they've done this before with putting fake cards in the intro.
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>>150643967
they're romulo and julianne, referencing romeo and juliet.
do you even know karazhan in wow?
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>>150644129
like aggro druid?
some anon got legend with a deck I think maybe someone has a screenshot
it's all fairly straightforward with perhaps 1 tech slot for Fandral/some replacement
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>>150643967
They're probably 2 neutral epics
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>>150644475

No. they fucking showed the Juianne card in the announcement stream. its a boss fight only card that gives your minions taunt or charge depending on placement.
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why does crafting Thalnos feel like such a waste /hsg/?
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>>150644617
cuz you're a faggot pussy
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>>150644617
i told myself i wouldn't craft him but i did

he's so good its insane

important if you want to play rogue because that class needs all the help you can get
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>>150644605
sorry dude, i didn't watch the announcement stream
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>>150644617
Because he doesnt make a deck archtype hes just really good
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>>150644605
Not him but that's dorothee actually, you use it against the crone/wicked witch. But still doubt those aren't boss cards.
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>>150642650
By far the best card, or at least my favorite. I've seen tutors lead many a game down a dark path.

Thank god Emperor T is rotating out because it would be disgusting to get the new Medivh out early with some cheap activators
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>>150644617
because he's not a huge unga bunga card you timmies like to make decks out of
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>>150644617
Thalnos is the only leggo I ever crafted and I have no ragrets.
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>>150644617

because you're a scrub that thinks legendaries need big numbers on them to be valuable.
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>>150644330
hmm anyone have a screenshot?
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>>150644617
>tfw still no thalnos
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Why waste dust on legendaries when you can mirror entity scrubs Ragnaros for so much more fun
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>>150644617
>card draw
>spell power
>only 2 mana
Most OP card in the game
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Friendly reminder that there is going to be two new cards revealed about an hour from now in a Brazilian stream and another one around 4-ish hours from this post from America Latina.
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>>150645532
>is a skeleton
>is never a dead card
a bit ironic
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>>150645820
like poetry
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>>150645551
Do you have a source? Pretty late where I live so I might stay up an hour for the brazil stream.
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>>150644617
If you could, you'd run Azure Drake in every single mana slot, so you just need to get over your retardation and embrace it.
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>>150644829
Thaurissan isn't rotating out until 2017.
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>>150642948
how do you plan to buy the adventure then?

Pic related is me saving gold for the adventure like I did for ALL adventures so far.
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>>150644942
just google aggro beast druid there's quite a few variations
the one I play has,

1 raven idol (flexible but potentially another roar / removal)
1 sir finley (normally for lifetap)
2 living roots
2 innervate
2 wrath
2 power of the wild
2 mark of y'shaarj
2 darnassus aspirant
2 druid of the saber
2 mounted raptor
2 savage roar
2 druid of the flame
2 savage combatant
2 violent teacher
2 swipe
2 druid of the claw

play super aggressive, just build a board with tokens and try and get an early lethal with roar

I realise it's autistic to type it out from memory but I can't be bothered to open up the client
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>>150644617
Because he's only valuable when you need Draw AND Spellpower, and when you can't afford to have them split into 2 bodies like Kobold and Hoarder/Engineer.

He's really good for the decks that need him, but a luxury for the ones that don't
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>>150646339
wish cash because im not a poor fuck
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>>150644617
Card text matters more than raw stats. But naturally, people see a 1/1 for 1600 dust, and don't like the sound of it.
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>>150646651
I aint poor at all, but what am I going to do with my gold anyways?
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>>150646941
take screenshots of it
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>>150647064
no but I mean, I can always stack at least 3k before any adventure/expansion easily, there is never a need to pay if you just do your dailies
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>>150646673
I still think that cards like Rag and Sylvanas should come first, but by time you get your staple finishers, if you aren't able to tell how great Thalnos is, you're probably beyond being helped.
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>>150646941
i prefer doing arena runs i dont really care what you do
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>>150646098
Nah, I can't find it. There was an announcment a few days ago about the BR stream announcment, though. Just go to sleep, anon.
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>>150627161
You can not get "Wins" this tavern brawl. You can keep it for next week I guess. I tried to get it to work for almost an hour.
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>>150647297
I used to like arena until after GvG
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>>150647332
You can get wins, you can't get win gold.
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>>150646941
Do a Arena runs because they aren't worth 2.99 a pop
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>>150640095
Standard is only current year and the last year.
This mean This year is 2015-2016. Next year will be 2016-2017. LoE is in 2015 and will be out.
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>>150647332
You can get class wins and win "x" games, just not the 10g bonuses.
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>playing nigger priest against a control priest
>usual priest vs priest shenanigans of copying shifting shades for more shifting shades, leading to 6 sylvanases being played during the match and probably 10 entombs
>about to go to fatigue, but because he had elise and I didn't, I figured I'd lose the fatigue match
>been avoiding playing yogg because he would do me more harm than good
>he plays his last sylvanas
>I finally praise yogg
>draws me a few cards I didn't want, and then kills sylvanas and switches sides
>opponent emotes "well played" not knowing it was all going according to plan
>yogg draws HIM cards now, burning his monkey and putting him in fatigue
>as a farewell, yogg uses astral communion after drawing all his cards, leaving him with nothing but excess mana while I have a full hand
PRAISE YOGG
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>>150647737
>>150647737
>>150647737
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