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>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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First for PURGE FILTH
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Post passwords I'm bored
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Third for wacky sacks.
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>>150439931

Location: Ludwig's Fog
Pass: anusrape
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>>150440237
Coming
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>>150440517
LudLud is down!
You can join me for Research Hall if you want.
Same pass
At the Lamp
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>>150440047
I had fun, my guy, sorry I suck so bad lel
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>>150441572
That's who I meant to reply to at all

Meant for >>150437347
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>tfw offline mode poorfag
>tfw missing out on glyphs
>tfw missing out on co-op
>tfw can't beat Ludwig on my Blt build alone and the NPC phantom gets distracted by tentacle giants

Is there some way to get free PSN trials or something?
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>>150441926
>Summoning Henriett

Have you been to the Woods, anon? There's a friend waiting for you in the shortcut right near the lantern.
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>>150441926
Pretty sure you can get a 2 week free trial, also it's $4 a month I believe, just buy one month and cancel
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Who's up for HBLB with a twink? Pass is stumpbug
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>>150441926
You should have gotten a free two week one when you got your machine.

Barring that, a month's subscription is like $5 or something, get one and cancel it before the month is out, re-subscribe when you like. Or get a year's subscription for a birthday or Christmas from someone.
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Need help on celestial ay lmao
Outside boss door pass: aylmao
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>>150439497
What is the level meta?
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>>150443398
Be there in a sec ayyyy
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>>150443425
150 120 115 and 98
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>>150442117
I killed Valtr for the goddamn snake whistle before getting the rune
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>>150443747
>115 is a separate meta from 120

???
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>>150443492
Ayyyy thanks im waiting
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Anyone willing to help with The Livid Retards?

Location: fog
Pass: ayy

P.S. Bring Clawmark Runes
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>>150443858
No anon, you are the vermin.

>>150443982
Fuck it, why not. On my way.
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>>150443930
Only one y right? aylmao not ayylmao?
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>>150444380
Yes just aylmao
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>>150444491
Alright boss, hang on, lost connection there
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>>150444552
Ok
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>>150443982
How low is your level? I'm only BL54 and I'm getting downscaled.
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>>150444660

BL: 25
Wanted to make an overkill earlygame co-op character.
You know the Hamlet Gems and all that.
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Is the bloodmoon actually the moon, or a different celestial body? From outside Yharnam the moon looks normal, and it's in a totally different position. From inside Yharnam you can't see the original moon, but the bloodmoon is visibly in front of the clouds. Maybe the bloodmoon just hangs in front of it? The textures don't even look similar, there are craters and shit that aren't visible on both.
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Would it be acceptable to use Blacksky Eye and non-broccoli Kos Parasite on a Micolash cosplay?
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>>150445096
Kos Parasite is basically a requirement, Blacksky Eye would be weird but Damian of Mensis uses it so whatever.
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>>150444552
Everything ok with you?
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>>150445413
Ringing again, lost connection twice. This is doesn't usually happen, sorry man.
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>>150445571
Its fine ive got a lot of time
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I want to play this again but after my save got corrupted during a storm I haven't felt like it. What a waste of 500 hours.
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>>150445802
Time to make a new build.
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>>150439497
What's the best version and gems for the moonlight greatsword
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>>150445571
How we doing now?
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Why do people do this?
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>>150446213
Depends on the build
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>>150446418
Lost connection again, man, really sorry about this

Try resetting your PS4, I'll reset mine, too
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>>150444660
I got em!
My strategy did devolve into pegging all my Molotovs and waiting and backstabbing them when they cast the meteor shower.

Wanna go for Maria?
At least shes just one target.
And doesnt have as much health.

Same pass
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>>150446741
Thanks man you want to help me with the 2nd boss?
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>>150447620
A N N I H I L A T ED

Sure thing! I'll be ringing by the fog.
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>>150446917
Glorius Execution!
May the good blood guide your way brother.
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>>150447715
Nice dude whats this alter do it wont let me do anything with it?
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>>150448151
And let us cleanse these tarnished streets!

Good luck out there, fellow hunter.
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>>150446657
25/25 strength and skill and 70 arcane also what gems would you recomend?
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>>150440047
had my first Wacky Sacking(although second encounter with a Bagkman, fought one in the first Chalice Dungeon), so now I've been to Hypogean Gaol, which makes my recent achievements as such;

Killed Blood Starved Beast
Found the Radiant Sword Hunter Badge
Found the Abandoned Workshop
Killed the Beast-Possessed Soul(and obtained the Beast Rune)
Been to Hypogean Gaol and activated it's lamp

didn't fully explore the area at the bottom of the Healing Church Workshop due to getting Bagged, so after I finish that, is there anything else I should do next(besides farming enough Echoes to get the Ludwig's Holy Blade)?
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>>150448389
That's for bringing back the Vileblood Queen if you let Alfred destroy her and then you took the Queenly Flesh from her throne
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im from /dsg/ and just bought a ps4 so that i could play bloodborne, got some questions now;
what sl is the meta?
are all weapons viable?
what stats are worth to invest into?
is it fun?
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>>150449307
98
All weapons are viable, some are just more fun than others.
Go strength, skill, or quality for first playthrough.
It is very fun.

And leave right now before you get spoiled anymore than you might already have been.
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>>150449646
alright thanks dude, might come back tomorrow once i got the game for some coop
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>>150449307
Meta is 80-120, 98 here, 150 for Reddit shitters. All weapons are viable. First playthroughs usually go with quality. Start as Military Veteran and go 50/25 or 25/50 Strength and Skill, disregard Bloodtinge and Arcane. Save those for another character. Don't stay here too long, better to go blind first time around. Really fun game, especially for Arcane.
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When is the best time to play the DLC? First playthrough or NG+? I'm almost level 90, doing my first run.
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>>150449307
The meta around /bbg/ is 98, because it allows invading down to level 80 builds (100 is just out of reach for that) and avoids level 150 reddit shitters.

Every weapon is viable for PvE, PvP is different. You can make anything work if you try hard enough, but some weapons take more effort than others.

Strength and skill are the damage stats you'll want to go for your first time through, arc and bloodtinge are tricky for newcomers. Endurance is a luxury stat in this game though, you'll never need to level it beyond twenty on any given build unless you're giant.

I have well over 2000 hours in the game, so let that speak for how fun it is.

Now run off ya little scamp, this game is best experienced blind.
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>>150449307
>meta
98 if you're a lucifag, 117 if you want to start an argument. Honestly, either one is fine.

>weapons
Absolutely every weapon is vaible. Each weapon is unique, there's no really objectively better weapon. The best start weapon is the axe due to its high damage, wide range and rally potential (getting back health with attacks). The Saw Cleaver is solid, fast and damages beasts extra (all saw weapons do). The Cane is the weakest, but has good range and speed.

>stats
Depends what build you want. Strength gives access to many weapons, as does Skill. Arcane and Bloodtinge are more specialized and can be mixed in with Strength and Skill, or pure builds. For a beginner, go Strength or Skill and don't worry too much about stats until you're familiar with the game. Then start experimenting with Arcane and Bloodtinge. Arcane is for spells, Bloodtinge for guns and some weapons.

>fun
Fun as fuck, my dude
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>>150441926
I fucking hate this whole paid online shit. The only reason i'm not replaying BB now being tired as fuck from DS3.
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>>150450202
NG, you're a bit over leveled but your gems and weapon upgrades is what matters the most.
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>>150443425
43, 70, 100, 120, 140
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Getting bored of DaS3 and its bullshit, considering getting back to BB, is there a lot of people to duel in thizznigga3 or fight clubs still?
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What gems should I be using on a Boomhammer if I have 40 Strength and 25 Arcane? Also regular, uncanny or lost?
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>>150451657
Regular. You want either normal Physical, Blunt, or Nourishing gems. Blunts will probably give you the most bang, add a Heavy Abyssal if you plan on going to 50 strength.
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>>150450434
It's bullshit, but at least it's cheap. Five dollars a month isn't much, but that's no excuse.

Blame MicroShill for starting this awful meme.
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I'm spelunking in Root Isz, anyone wants to join me?
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>>150451398
Hizznigger was getting a lot of traffic the other day and we have weekly FCs here
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>>150452246
on the other hand you do get some free games every month from having a PS+ membership which I say is more than worth the price of admittance
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>>150452718
Sure, why not. Glyph?
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Have you guys found Guidance 3 yet?
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>>150454110
Free games is nice, but that should be separate from online functionality. If you want to pay money to get extra shit, that's fine, that makes sense. But needing to pay for the internet that you're already paying for? That can fuck right off.

Separate the two of them, online being free and PS+ costing money, and everything would be fine.
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>>150454156
Glyph is k8v77kwp, I'm at the first boss, it's an undead giant.
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>>150454873
The glyph's not working for me. You sure you opened it?
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>>150455117
Sorry, I'm dumb, I completely forgot.
Try now.
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Can someone please help me with Ludwig? I'm trying to get church pick early on but he's ruining me. Pass is "ludwig"
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>>150455310
Sweet, I'll be ringing my summon bell outside the locked boss gate. Should we set a password?
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>>150455473
Yeah, pass is pip
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>>150455637
Alright, ringing now.
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>>150455386
On my way, are you at the Nightmare Church or the boss fog?
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>>150455386
Omw
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>>150455896
>>150455908
At the nightmare church, guys. I'll wait for you both
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>>150455637
FUCK
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>>150456000
Holy shit, how did he do it?
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>>150455992
Ringing
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>>150455992
Ringing now
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>>150456082
Augur 2stronk. I'll be ringing in a sec, gonna go restock on bullets first.
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>>150456495
Sure, I'm ringing near the lantern.
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>>150456297
>>150456356
Noooo, I screwed it up, sorry
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Ah shit, got trapped next to his horse dick, ringing again if you can't finish him
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>>150457537
Yeah, he landed on me and 1 hit me.
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>>150456495
Wanna do the next layer?
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>>150456609
Job well done! Pretty easy dungeon so far all things considered. I'll be ringing at the layer 2 lantern.
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>>150457817
Beckoning bell or resonant bell?
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>>150457942
Resonant, sorry. We'll do the layers on your side first.
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Sorry, I was too close to one of you and he landed on me when trying to get to you... Also sorry about the brief afk, thought it would take you longer to die lol
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>>150458139
I'm awful at ludwig lol especially his second form, I too often get caught in a combo and can't escape it
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>>150457942
Goddammit I underestimated how hard that mob hit. Not even a message rating saved me.
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>>150458418
Yeah his first form isn't too bad once you learn it, but I've never figured out his second form.
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>>150458673
Agreed, first form is pretty much dodging to the left and attacking his belly
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>>150458067
Sorry, I got HMPH'd.
Ringing near the boss door.
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>>150458418
>>150458673
I'll try with some more arcane defence
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>>150459240
HMPH
M
P
H
[/spoiler]I fucking hate that boss so much.[/spoiler]
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>>150446612
Do what?

Have 100K+ damage?
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>>150459240
Let me know if you got him. He's a pain in the ass.
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Lol

>dodging his sword swipes like nobody's business
>get him down to less then 1/4 health
>see Candy-Floss getting curb stomped by his beams

Next round

>die immediately

Oh Ludwig what a strange boss you are
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>>150459835
Yeah, he's a right cunt
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>>150459728
HMPH is dead, let's kill him again.
Ringing in the lantern room.
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Man, that attempt at Ludwig didn't go well for any of us lol
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>>150459728
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is it possible to make a low level build to use saw spear/pizza cutter and arcane tools as well?
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>comment on how I got his first form down alright
>instantly start jobbing
But of course.
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>>150459240
HMPH YEAH BRING ME THAT ASS HMPH HMPH HMPH YOU LIKE THAT HMPH HMPH HMPH
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>>150460530
GOOSH GOOSH, GOOSH GOOSH, GOOSH GOOSH

YOU DIED
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>>150460371
Of course, just use fire/bolt gems on your weapons and they'll scale with arc exclusively.
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LUDWIG IS DOWN
Thanks a bunch you guys, you were both amazing.
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>>150460031
Almost got him. Let's try that again.
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>>150461241
Sure, I'm ringing.
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>>150461201
Congrats. I'd help with Research Hall too but I gotta go. Good luck.
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>>150461201
No problem man, my wheel is always ready to kill that bastard
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>>150461416
Yeah, research hall and church pick hunter are going to be a bastard
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>>150461241
That was fucking brutal.
Give me a sec, I need to buy some bullets.
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>>150461869
Yeah, he got wrecked. Just waiting to get picked up at layer 3 now.
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>>150462008
I'm ready.
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>>150462008
That was one nasty trap.
Ringing near the lantern.
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>>150462051
OH GOD WHY ARE THERE SO MANY RATS
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Is bloodborne 2 possible? :3
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>>150463071
yeah and it's gonna be set in ww1 and steampunk with vehicle sections
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>>150462384
>tfw you go full retard and forget about the trap three times in a row
At least the boss was a pushover. Going to grab more bullets and then I'll summon you.
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>>150463710
It happens to the best of us.
Emissary is lame as always, but the arena with the giant pit is pretty interesting, I've never seen it before.
I wonder if it's possible to make him fall?

By the way there's a Lost Ludwig's Sword in the bonus area in case you're interested.
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>>150463071
when miyazaki goes the kojima route
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>>150463710
THAT FUCKING TRAP
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>>150439497
What's the best gems and version for the holy moonlight greatsword?
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Would anybody like to give me a hand with failed experiments and possibly maria? Level 35
Password: bbg
Will ring at the fog gate
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>>150464762
I'll give Failures a few goes.
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>>150464879
Cheers anon
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>>150464601
Depends on the build. If you're rocking pure physical, just the normal sword with 27%'s. Your beams will do jack shit for damage, but just hitting fools will get some huge numbers, especially on the untricked R2.

If you're an arc build, you get nourishing abyssals on either a normal or Lost sword. The normal hits won't do as much damage, but the beams and the L2 will do much much more.
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>>150464879
Sorry, I was instakilled
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>>150465246
Its alright. I spent too much time trying to backstab instead of covering
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>>150439497
What is the best version of the kos parasite?
i want to be a ayy
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>>150464396
Be wary of trap
And then it'll happen to you too

Apart from that horrible place, that was a pretty good dungeon. Forgot how fun chalices could be in coop. We should do another one sometime.
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>>150465771
That was tons of fun, thanks for joining me.
It was a pretty tough dungeon except for the last boss.
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>>150465319
Thanks a bunch anon
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>>150465972
No worries, do you want help with Maria? She's a low level nightmare
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You know? Thinking gothic horror and monster hunting and shit?

I'm surprised that there's not a crossbow in bloodborne. It'd fit I think. Its a time period where they're not completely useless yet, its thematic, it fits monster hunting shit.
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>>150466047
If you're feeling brave anon lol
Ringing outside maria gate, same pass: bbg
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>>150466281
Well you have to do it sooner or later, and she should be less of a pain with two people. Ringing
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Goddamn that oneshot. Let me know if you want me to change to an over levelled character and join on whirl L2's
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>>150466689
It might be worth a try, but the health scaling might be huge
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>>150466784
I'll try once more then I'll change characters
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>>150466956
I'm so bad at dodging maria
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>>150466981
Alright, I'm going to change characters and see if something different will do the trick
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>>150467289
Alright, hopefully I can stop dying
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>>150467415
Nope
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>>150448473
Nourishing Gems.

You want Lost varient, you want a Triangle Gem from FCR Isz Amy, a Waning one from Loran FRC Amy and a radial one from Gargoyels in FRC Iyhll (or Rom if you really want the best, but its a tiny difference).
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>>150467693
Couldn't really tell that time but I think the downscaling is really impacting on this character. I might have to change back if we get nowhere.
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How do I make a viable fist-moveset build? I'm thinking 99 ARC, Kos Parasite, no Broccoli head. I'll have the unarmed moveset, but hit like a truck. Is this a bad idea?
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>>150468045
It works, but it's way inferior to the ayy lmao form.
You can also try beast claws on a str build.
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>>150460371
A "low level build"? Not really. You need 18 STR for Pizza Cutter, and tools are terrible damage-wise until you get high Arcane. Unless you just want them for utility instead of damage, then it would be easy.
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>>150467904
Sorry anon, I keep getting caught up
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>>150468168
Oh, I figured, but the idea is to take players off-guard when they think I'm joking around and using just my hands.
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>>150468240
Yeah downscaling is impacting but the arc tools and exe glove spam make it worth using. I'll save those for phase 3 though.
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>>150468325
Beast roar is pretty useful, I'm not sure how well it is against her final phase though
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>>150468045
Put 3 Flat Arc gems on it, its nowhere near a real weapon, but often people will just assume you are fooling around and use thier fists as well, then get a shock when you are actually doing damage.

Best used in a Michalosh Cosplay.
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>>150468045
You wanna stay at a low level since the Kos Parasite gemmed with flats is gonna do around 100-200 a hit. Maybe high Vit and 20 Arcane as a Twink would be good.
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I'm going to change back to my previous character. That one was doing more damage on the saw spear because of the little downscaling
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>>150469338
Sure thing, thanks for sticking it out this long. What level is your saw spear character?
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>>150469338
Should I just take a more cautious approach? Since I just always end up dying lol
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>>150469662
Yeah, try to be cautious. Play it safe. I'll see if i can hold her attention. This character's level 43 and I'm doing double the damage I was compared to my other character.

Maria was a real bitch solo but at least the parry timings weren't screwed because of co-op
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>>150469762
God damn it, that was going so well and she comes out and 1 hits me.
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>>150470035
Yeah, that will happen. a lot. If you want, you can try and do Maria sometime later, especially since this would be taking a toll on your vials. She's easier with Mensis gems. Either way I can stick around for another half hour or so.
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I'm thinking about getting a PS4 to play this gem but I'm not sure whether to get one from local gamestop

Gamestop just has a history of being.... GAMESTOP fuck these niggas are the type to unseal shit that is new and resealing it after fucking with it

I'm more comfortable with ordering from Amazon I think it's worth the wait plus it comes with a cool Uncharted Drake artwork and controller
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>>150470173
I've got enough insight for a few more attempts, hopefully I might get lucky with dodges
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>>150470329
Fair enough. Don't drain it all since you might need some of it for later.
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>>150470674
Yeah, I'm honestly really not this bad lol. I've done a BL4 run solo, it's just been a while lol
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>>150470674
Thanks for hanging in there anon, you pretty much took her single handed.
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>>150471105
No worries. Its always good to have a challenge. Enjoy the Hamlet gems
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>>150471198
You're not going to go for orphan with me?
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>>150471268
I haven't even fought Orphan for myself on this character, so I'm going to have to pass on that one.

Rather try and get FRC gems first
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>>150471382
You may be surprised to know, but I've got a 43 and 60 with FRC gems if you need help with anything yourself
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>>150471607
I'll be fine. I'm trying to do what I can solo which has been more or less fine so far. Thanks for the offer though.
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>>150471835
Alright anon, good luck with your gems, I hope to eventually get FRC on this one (co-op character for lower levels)
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Proper gems for a tricked Bloodletter?
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>>150472659
27.2's or blt offshapes. Depends if you'd rather spend an hour or a week farming them.
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>>150472738
Who drops the offshapes and how rare are they?

If it's too much for little difference then i'd go for 27.2's
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>>150472932
Shotgun watchers in bonus areas drop the offshape gems. Glyphs are in the OP. They're an easy farm but have about a 1% chance of dropping. Offshape gems go up to 31.5 but they take a lot more effort to get since you have a chance to get a blt scaling offshape gem instead which are absolute trash.
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>>150472932
Shotgun Watcher's guarding levers or Chests, there's a glyph for an easy to farm one in the OP.

Bascially if you are willing to kill a fatty 100s, maybe 1000+ times you can get 31.5% Gems.
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>>150439497
How much Arcane you hunters have?
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>>150473315
>>150473349

Ah what the hell, i'll give it a few tries
Thanks a lot anons.
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>>150460319
>when you're pressing the button but it's not doing anything
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>>150439497
Rate my build /dsg/
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>>150473349
>100s, maybe 1000+ times

These took me ~1930 kills to get (I counted). IIRC that was about 22 hours of farming.

You can probably get away with a few hundred kills if you're willing to settle for Durability down curses, lower rating gems, and only want gems for one weapon.
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>>150474181
Needs more straight swords/10

Its fine. Maybe get one more point in skill to use the bowblade but up to you
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>>150474181
>99
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>>150474181
why not put another point in SKL for the Bow Blade? Also the +5 Bullets rune isnt worth it, since you get that with Blood Bullets anyway, only take it if you are using stuff like Cannon and ACB which use more than 5 per shot.
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>>150473481
50
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>>150474181
Filth/10

Never call us /dsg/ again
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What are the best gems for the cane on a skill build ?

Please dont tell me thrust
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>>150477720
27.2's. Thrust can work but they only benefit parts of the moveset while temperings will up everything
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>>150477720
Why the fuck would you want thrust on a Cane?

3x 27.2%, or 2x 24.8/15 1x 27.2. The 2x 24.8 will make a small difference, but they're technically stronger.
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what's the recommended amount of stamina on most builds, 15?
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>>150474585
98 is a meme level 120 and 140-150 is the real meta desu
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>>150476814
same thing desu
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>>150479040
40
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Why didn't anyone ever tell me how much fun low level builds are? I'm decked out in executioner gear purging filth in Cainhurst and it's been some of the most fun I've had in this game for a while.
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>>150483106
This desu. Cutting up low level BoM dashspammers while using moves besides dashr1 has been pretty satisfying
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>>150483106
What range do you invade ? Im planning to do an arcane build soon so I might as well enjoy some activity along the way
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>>150485831
My build is BL54. Invades down to 40 and up to like 93 or something. I catered it specifically to get action in Cainhurst, so your build will be different depending on what you plan on doing with it.

I'm considering doing another low level build to karate chop scrubs with the Kos Parasite, but I really don't want to deal with Orphan of Kos at level 40.
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>>150486021
I dont know shit about arc but I wanted to do one which would let me use normal weapons like the cane.

Is 30 arc good enough at BL 50ish ?
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>>150486021
I forgot to ask but do you frequently get invasions at that level ?
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>>150441572
>>150441721

Those two posts are actually both mine.

I say "wacky" too much.

>>150443747
>115

>>150450613
>70

>>150443425
- 80 if you're 2k00l4sk00l and want to invade somewhere other than Mensis.
- 98-100 is the gentlemen's meta for those who enjoy a classy saturday night FC.
- Any level above that is for shitters.

>>150448709
Go to the right of the Grand Cathedral and you'll find a couple of NPC hostile hunters, another wack sack Jack and something like 5 twin bloodstone shards. After that, go to the LEFT of Cathedral Ward and into Hemwick (protip: if you go there with >15 insight you unlock feminist rally mode) for more twinnies, echoes and an item that lets you memorize runes.
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>>150486359
Well, you won't be able to use any of the bigger weapons. Cane would do well, Saif even more better. And then depending on how comfortable you are with lower vit, you could manage to get yourself as high as forty arc, though your options for weapons would be fairly limited at that point.

For reference, my build is 25 in vit, str and arc, using nourishing gems for big damage. So yes, 30 arc is fine, and 35 is possible while still maintaining 25 vit without breaking 50 just yet.

>>150486445
I was getting invasions every couple minutes, the range is wide enough that you'll get all kinds of people.
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>>150479040
As much as you can have after reaching your desired stopping points in every other stat. 15-20 is a nice luxery, but I've gotten by fine with 10 on some builds. It really is the least important stat, unless you specifically want to L2 Whirligig everything you can possibly see.

Its so bizzare looking back at "experts" who claimed everyone needed 40 END when the game released. Then it moved to 20, which caused a bit of controversy, and now its basically the stat you raise until your build hits the meta level of your choosing.
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>>150486964
>Go to the right of the Grand Cathedral and you'll find a couple of NPC hostile hunters, another wack sack Jack and something like 5 twin bloodstone shards. After that, go to the LEFT of Cathedral Ward and into Hemwick (protip: if you go there with >15 insight you unlock feminist rally mode) for more twinnies, echoes and an item that lets you memorize runes.
thanks, had already reached the entrance to Hemwick, thought I had reached the Forbidden Woods instead so I didn't go farther yet, also didn't fight those Hunters yet due to a note mentioning them, also for the Skeptical Man NPC, which is better, to send him to Oedon Chapel, or Iosefka's Clinic(sent Old Lady, and Arianna to the Chapel, sent Gascan's Daughter to Iosefka, and am planning on sending Adella and the Suspicious Beggar to Iosefka's)?
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>>150487215
Decide for yourself. Skeptical Man hasn't believed a word you've said so far, do you think he'd listen if you told him to go where you wanted?
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>>150487343
I was already aware of the whole he does the opposite of what you say thing, just wanted to know if there's any special reward for sending him to the Clinic instead of the Chapel
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>>150487509
Oh, in that case no, he doesn't give you anything either way. If you get him to go to the Chapel though, he does have little bits of advice, though it's backwards like the rest of him. It's just about other NPCs though.

By the way, Adella gives you a gesture if you talk to her in Oedon Chapel, so you'll miss out on that if you send her off to the clinic.
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>>150487215
>>150487509

If you send people to Oedon's Chapel you get a couple of jestures, special blood vials, lies, sedatives (after you kill Rom) and death if you bring in the Suspicious Beggar. If you send them to Yosefka's Clinic you get runes, a pair of shoes, a bottle of blood and sedatives if you kill the NPCs that got turned into ayys plus blue elixirs and numbing mists as rewards from fake Yosefka.
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>>150487215
Send Adella to Chapel, you get a Gesture and some unique healing items. Also dont send Begger to Ioesfka's, be a man and fight him.
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>>150486964
>any level above 100 is for shitters
you have to go to at least 115 for a decent arcane build autismo
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>>150486964
The intended meta is 140 that's where the defence you get from leveling up caps out
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>>150488195
Different anon, but that's just blatantly false. The only thing that matters on an arc build is that you hit your scaling hardcap and you have the physical stats to wield your weapons. Beyond that it's all just padding.
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>>150488195

No.

>>150488270
>bland as fuck can-do-virtually-anything build but defence is capped out so it's k

Le mao.
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>>150488128
I've heard sending Adella to the Chapel can get buggy

also after I killed those two hunters(Tontrius one was actually kinda easy, but the Rifle Spear one was a bastard to kill), and followed down that path, ran into a couple of those executioners, and man those things are assholes to fight
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>>150488270

Hey anon I found out that most stats don't cap out at level 140, so the intended meta is 544.
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>>150488927
>Executioner set
>Cainhurst Helmet
>mfw

Working as intended, I'm sure.
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Hey I was playing DaS3 but it bored me pretty quickly and I want to go back and start a NG in bb. I played Skl/Blt build with Rakuyo/Chilage and Evelyn. Which build would you recommend to try next? I kind of want to try Str/Blt for Bloodlettwr but don't know how viable it is. Or Str/arc for HMS or Pure Arc for brocolli build. Do you have some tips or comments for me?
Can you help me which of
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>>150489136
>Can you help me which of

Oh, Amygdala... Ohh, Amygdala... Have mercy on the poor bastard.
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>>150489096
Not that anon but if you don't like that, I made another meta build. It caters for those who like to use SRRC too.
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>>150488927
>>150488497
You guys are fucking retarded 140 is just like das1 and des 120 since you need to put more points into stats especially arcane
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>>150488293
>50 arcane
fuck off you don't know what your talking about arcane does not get good until you hit 70 at least
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>>150489581
No, you're retarded because there are only six fucking stats in this game and endurance is a luxury. Any given build will only ever have up to three stats to give a shit about, a lot of them only have two. When the only stats you need are vit and your primary damage stat, there's no way in shit even just 120 isn't overleveling.

>>150489665
Have you ever made a build with 50 arc? My build has a bolt Saif that hits players for four to five hundred per R1, moonbeams that hit for 600+, a fire Whirly that regularly clocks 500+ damage in a single hit. Arc is just like any other build, you get your damage stat to fifty and make sure you can wield your weapons and the rest is padding. Just because my tools aren't functioning and max capacity doesn't mean the build is useless, and even then my tools do fine enough damage, with Blacksky Eye netting anywhere from 200 to 350 depending on their arc resistance, and Augur that'll hit for more. As it turns out, you're the one that doesn't know shit if you think you need to bloat yourself all the way up to one-fucking-forty just to have a viable "build."
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>>150489581
>>150489665
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>>150486964
I pity the retards trying to limit build variety with their hilarious meta autism.
BB has wide as fuck invasion and summon ranges and apart from your shitty metafaggotry there's no reason to not have characters in 120-140 range, especially 99 ARC or bloodtinge hybrids.
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>>150489950
Arcane hunter tools get literally double the damage form 50-99 and they get like a 30-40 percent increase from 50-70 you fucking retard the bloodborne genral is cancerous you autists ruin everything the meta should be 120
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>>150490642
What's that anon, you don't like balanced saif and wheeldash meta? How can you.
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>>150489950
How the fuck is this overleveled?
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>>150490474
thank you anon these guys drove me away from bloodborne for almost a year i just came back
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>>150490780
>gimped builds
disgusting
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>>150490474
>>150490642
>>150490780
>>150490807
>>150490895
>I have no skill therefore I am going to make a level 150 "build" and call it balanced so anonymous people on the internet won't be mean to me
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Why are the Byrgenworth bugmen carrying stones?
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>>150490971
fuck off i'm better than you ever will be and that meme if fucking disgusting
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>>150490971
Those level 98 meme builds are boring and gimped to be good at pvp and that's it it's cancerous
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>>150490971
>i'm so shit at the game i need to have a minmaxed build that is better than anything else possible in that level range yet i'm crying about people trying different stat combinations and using hybrid weapons to 100 of their movesets
It feels good when someone drops 17299 souls so you know you're dealing with a braindead retard who agrees with lucifer and kobra.
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>>150490642
Just because my hunter tools don't do max damage doesn't mean the build is shit you sperg. You're hitting R1 most of the time anyway, Jesus Christ. What's got you so hung up here? Your damage numbers are fine at 50 arc. Yeah, they're better at 70. The same is true for literally every other damage stat. Just because tools scale funny doesn't mean you need to dump another twenty levels into an already finished build.

>>150490807
70 in any stat should not be attainable without making sacrifices. The issue with building to 120 is that at that point you can have 50/50 in two damage stats and literally no downsides. That's stupid.

>>150491082
>I can hit L2 with my 50/50 Rakuyo and that means I'm way better than you with no way to prove it!

>>150491158
Just because you can't be a giant piece of shit that does everything doesn't mean you're gimped. My arc build can use basically every weapon in the game and do good damage with it, and it's 98. What's your excuse?
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>>150448473
Get that Arc to 99
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>>150491241
>Literally the only move you used was dash+R1

I agree that bloating your level is dumb, but you're really propagating that stereotype there, aren't you?
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>>150491328
>50/50 Rakuyo
rakuyo has a single stat scaling
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>>150491082
>>150491158

Cry me a fucking river.

>>150491241
>optimizing builds while keeping them balanced is a bad thing

Wow anon, you really showed that level 98 with your level 120 dash R1 tricked wheel spam.
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>>150491241
thank you
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>>150491328
I don't even use the rakuyo i use the moonlight greatsword and the cane plus kos parasite
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>>150491474
Not like I should be telling you this, but a heavy abyssal in a 50/50 Rakuyo would be about the dumbest fucking thing ever.
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>>150491328
The hunters tools don't even do half the damage that they are capable of you fucking retard kill yourself
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>>150491407
I would have to go to 150 to do that would you recommend?
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>>150491492
the 98 started the wheel spam you idiot
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>>150491763
150 is a bit excessive, 140 is an ideal level to stop at. Still can invade 120 and even shitty 98 retards will invade you. It's always so cute when they understand their wheel spam does like half of a damage it does against another 98 retard because of a natural defense growth it's hilarious.
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>>150491837

Nope, the invader pulled out their wheel AFTER the host started showing their prowess by spamming dash-R1s. Thanks for proving that one's preferred level meta is inversely proportional to their I.Q.
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>>150491701
How many times do I have to say this to get through to you? When half the max damage is still up to three goddamn hundred, why the balls does it matter? You use it as a chaser, not your main offensive weapon. Tools are just that: tools. An auxiliary that you use to compliment your weapons. If you want to make a gimmick build that uses tools for all your damage, go for it, but the point of an arc build is not exclusively tools, it's all the other shit that comes with being an arc build.

>>150491837
>He didn't even have a wheel out when you started dash spamming him

Sure.
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>>150491901
Is 82 arcane good enough?
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>>150491837
Invader was with a saif which is way worse than wheel spam.
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>>150491901
Exactly anon
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>>150492059
doing it twice is spamming you retard fucking monkey
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what is the best and most enjoyable bloodborne playthrough on youtube?
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>There are people in this thread right now that think the tripfag started the BL98 meta

What has this general come to?
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>>150492289
Silvermont
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>>150492335
is it blind?
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>>150492386
i'm pretty sure
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>>150474181
Replace your Formless Oedon with Oedon Writhe You filthy Vilecuck
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Anyone wanna help a level 40 with Loran Darkbeast?
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Only 98's i have are my strength and bloodtinge
my 125 arcane build is way way funner 98 is a retarded meme
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>>150492573
>Funner

Shouldn't you be doing homework or something right now?

>>150492552
Sure thing, set a pass and I'll be there right quick.
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>>150492552
Overleved shitter
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>>150492552

no fuck off. you use a silencing blank right before you kill a boss to deny people souls
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>>150492657
Pass is church

>>150492670
Why would I do that?
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>>150492657
>Shouldn't you be doing homework or something right now?
What the fuck are you talking about? is that the best thing you could think of?
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so /bbg/, if we do get a Bloodborne 2 eventually, assuming it uses a new setting and not the general Yharnam region again, what would you want it to be?

have my own thoughts, but I'm going to wait to share them to see what some of yours are first
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>>150488927
>>150489472
Why do you like Formless Oedon so much?
It's like the most useless Rune ever.
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>>150492657
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>>150492846
i would love to go to the city of the great ones based on lovecraft's r'yleh
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>This general right now
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>>150492846
It will just be the das2 of bloodborne utter shit
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>>150492849
It's literally the best rune after hp and stamina
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>>150492103
Get it to MAX or bust
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>>150493035
It's shit

SHIT
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>>150492846
bloodborne should never get a sequel
spiritual successor with different setting, yes, but no sequel
there's a shitton of cool settings around to which you can adapt bb-esque gameplay and justify guns being weaker than melee weapons

oh, and it should only be done by Miyazaki, with Tanimura never having access to any balance decisions. fucktard already ruined two souls games
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>>150493043
eh i'll just stick to 70
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>>150493224
im in love with tanimura i wish he would anal rape me
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>>150493224
>two souls games
which one other than das2?
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>>150493334
There's Dark and Demon
That's pretty much it
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Jesus that jump attack is bullshit. Sorry Gregor, ringing again.
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>>150493465
...That did more damage than I expected. I'm going to swap out some gems real quick, maybe a different weapon would be better.
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>>150493438
What the fuck are you talking about? Das1 and Demons Souls are way better than das2
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>>150493573
I thought he was asking what the games with Souls in the name made by From Soft are
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>>150493224
honestly when I said Sequel, I meant a fairly different setting, just one that uses most of the same terminology and mechanics as the first one(since those aspects don't really need changing in my opinion)

>>150492919
would make for a neat area, don't know if it could carry a whole game though

>>150492967
I think after Dark Souls 2's reception they'd be more careful with any non Miyazaki Souls/Borne games in the future
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>>150493571
My god. I swear I usually dodge the first one. Ugh ringing again
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>>150493626
No which two games where ruined?
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>>150493684
well i didnt mean for the whole game but mainly for an end game area or a secret level where you have to do certain things to access it
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>>150493735
Good shit that time around. I forget sometimes just how monstrously good the Saw Spear is.
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>>150493895
Jesus fucking christ that was amazing! Can't believe it went so well that time, thank you!
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>>150493334
tanimura "balanced" pvp of ds3 as well
which is why it still has fucking seeds and enormous host advantage
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>>150494029
Oh well your right about that das3 was alright but not as good as the others the pvp is broken shit
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>>150494029
Das1 has the best pvp
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>>150493935
I've had a lot of practice fighting Loran Darkbeast, I'm just not used to being so downscaled when I do. My Whirly typically nails his legs for like eight or nine hundred per hit and he just melts.

I do still like that boss though, for as much of an ass as he can be. The fight is very methodical and I like that.
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>>150494105
i will certainly say that it's way better than ds2 but you can really feel tanimura's influence over it
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>>150494219
why was that faggot aloud to work on the game? was he the cunt that ruined gwydolin and Ornstein to?
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>>150494182
Yeah, it is a fun fight if we actually did decent damage and could survive more than 2 hits. Feel the same about Laurence, I don't even know how I managed to solo him at 38. If you're willing, would you like to join me for Iyhll?
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>>150494325
he was only responsible for pvp balance, the thing he should NEVER touch ever again
trap boy getting tenderly loved by an evil lovecraftian tentacle monster is Miyazaki's own design and it's actually pretty arousing
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>>150494408
>>150494408
Oh, absolutely, if you'll give me a minute. A bit of business that I've got to take care of, then I'll get right with ya.
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>>150494442
It's not arousing it is stupid and it ruined gwyndolin
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>>150494509
Thanks! Will be ringing with same pass.
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>>150493854
that makes sense, heck I might borrow it for my idea for a Bloodborne style setting(that I'm probably going to use for a Tabletop RPG campaign in the future)

>>150494408
>Yeah, it is a fun fight if we actually did decent damage and could survive more than 2 hits
that's how I've felt about pretty much all the bosses(and NPC Hunters) so far in this game, heck if Blood Starved Beast didn't have Slow Poison(which isn't really slow at all) it probably would have been my favorite fight in the game up to the point where I'm at, but thanks to that it ended up a slog that took too many tries till I found out about the whole "Dodge Left" trick to fighting him

>>150494442
isn't he also responsible for the whole "only one or two specific weapon types are even remotely useful" issue I've heard people complain about DS2 and to a lesser degree 3, not to mention the whole "Poise doesn't work at all in Dark Souls 3" problem
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>>150492275

He did 2 dashing R1s and a dash (which most certainly would have been followed by an R1 if the invader was in range) in the span of 3 seconds. For any experienced PvPer, the mere witnessing of a (random) opponent whipping out their wheel and tricking it is more than enough to assume that all they're going to do with it is dashing R1s, let alone watching them actually perform two (and a half) dashing R1s in quick succession. In conclusion: you're an idiot.

But by all means, keep churning out your legit 150 "builds" and crying like a bitch when someone whose character is 40 or so levels below yours whops your ass, that never gets old.
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>tfw you coop an entire chalice layer only to die in the last few moments of the boss fight
MY EMPIRE OF DIRT
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>>150494637
>isn't he also responsible for the whole "only one or two specific weapon types are even remotely useful" issue I've heard people complain about DS2 and to a lesser degree 3, not to mention the whole "Poise doesn't work at all in Dark Souls 3" problem
pretty much the same weapon types that were overpowered in ds2 are overpowered in ds3, though to a lesser extent. you can't deal 800 combos with two hits of estoc at least, but it still feels like weapon types were balanced by the same person who thought 130 counter damage was a good idea as well as longsword combos going into UGS territory in terms of damage

poise does work in its own way, i'm actually happy that they removed that shit system but i doubt it was Tanimura's decision
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>>150494915
>130 counter damage was a good idea
*130 counter damage on a curved sword was a good idea
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>>150494776
>me
>losing to a level 98 autist
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Alright, after more than 230 hours in this game I finally feel confident enough to start an arcane build.

Anything I should know besides the 101 ?

I plan to go 30/30 Vit/arc at first to get to BL46 and have low level fun, maybe try to do my way through the chalices like that
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>>150494595
Okay, super sorry for the wait. I'm switching characters so as not to get downscaled, I'll be ringing in just a minute now.
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>>150496623
No worries, just killed Descendant. Ringing for HBLB
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>>150496770
I'm so sorry.
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>>150497013
It's okay, ringing again.
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Is skill/arcane viable?
Out of str/arc, str/blt, skl/blt; with which build did you have the most fun? Also is pure arc a good choice? (Only meeting requirements on mlgs or others)
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>>150497013
Once again that was awesome! I think I'll leave the queen for some other time, thanks for the help Gregor!
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>>150497220
Skill/Arcane isn't so common since there's no real weapon that benefits both stats at the same time well enough. You could try CF: 40/12/10/40/5/40 at level 97, 50/50 would bump you to 117. Or just 20/50+ if you don't care about Burial Blade and Blade of Mercy. Str/Arc is really fun, Str/Blt can be fun if you like to use the big guns. Pure Arc is a really good choice, but if you wanna use base requirement HMS then you're gonna need it to be tricked and beam spam mostly.
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>>150494590
Ruined him for marriage, yes.
>>150492967
Can't hurt to hope. The most they can do is dash those hopes, right?
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>>150498218
What are good weapons for pure ARC ? Besides cane and saw spear ?
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>>150474070
WOW DUDE
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>Oedon writhe rune looks like a vagina being penetrated
>tier 3 looks like it's dripping with cum

Oedon you saucy bastard
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>>150498662
All starter weapons. Ludwig's Blade, Kirkhammer, Stake Driver. If you have the DLC, Beast Cutter, Beasthunter Saif, Church Pick, and Whirligig Saw. Rakuyo isn't common but it's possible. All weapons besides the starter ones need to have their requirements met though. If you don't wanna put a single point into Strength and Skill then go for the Kos Parasite.
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Despite the DLC rebalances and the rune that turns you into a beast, is beast claw still shitty?
Haven't really seen anybody using it.
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>>150500578
new beast claw is arguably even worse than basic one
it has no hyperarmor at all, it has no good fast ways of getting in, jump attack while cool lacks tracking completely
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>>150493224
>Tanimura never having access to any balance decisions. fucktard already ruined two souls games
You should read the design works sometime. Shibuya was the one who fucked up DaS2, he was swapped out for Tanimura halfway through to salvage it. Tanimura is a goddamn miracle worker.
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>>150501348
shibuya was behind some pretty awesome early concepts actually
i saw some unfinished maps and they are miles ahead of anything we actually got in ds2
he wanted mages to have aiming on l2 and different cast speeds depending on r1/r2, for example
it's just he was too ambitious for Bamco who forced him to get pulled out of project and entire thing scrapped because they wanted to rush the game
tanimura removed wast majority of interesting new mechanic shibuya wanted to introduce and his only achievement is that he managed to scrape together something barely working in less than a year, plus his balance decisions were pants on head retarded
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>>150498662
Anything you want with a Cold Abysmal. This is my build, everything does good damage. And also is exactly why >100 "builds" are terrible, if I went to 150 it would have no downsides, if you want meme-damage and variety you deserve meme-health

>>150500578
Its fantastic for PvE, one of the funnest builds. But its underwhelming in PvP, in fact the non-Beastrune varient is better for that. Its useable, but not top tier. I think the main reason no-one uses it is because by the time you get it, most peolpe have already picked a "main" weapon for thier character, and planning a build around it is tedious because you go through almost the whole game without your chosen weapon.
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>>150501850
>10 vit

Man I'm not good enough or crazy to do chalice with a build like this. I need 30 vitality minimum
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Where does one even go to do PVP at BL120? I haven't gotten action in Mensis for like 10 minutes now, nothing in Frontier either, and Sinister SRRC is dead too.
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>>150502874
thats probably because its morning on a weekday in America. But im not really sure, I assume Mensis.
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>>150502874
Y r u lying? Or r u 2 retarded to check ur nat settings?
Dunno man im getting the opposite results except for sinister srrc. That shit never works cuz most people kill the witches fast.
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Wheres a good place to get Blood Echos idc if its cheating i need to power lvl a charcter
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>>150503493
Depth 5 Chalices, or the piggus in Mensis.
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Why is there retarded meme about bl98 being lucifer or kobras idea?
I think some 4chan pass summer child is trying to subvert the meta here for some weird spergy reason.
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>>150503689
>Depth 5 Chalices
Just creating ones or is there a specific one?
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>>150504496
use your brain moran
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>>150495170

Put your money where your mouth is then, champ. I'll even use my shittiest PvP build just for you ;)
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If I need somebody to help me with a chalice boss that's on layer 3, they need to make the chalice and get through the other bosses as well?
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>>150506227
They can srrc with a password if they have the chalice you're heading into.
You can also give them the glyph so they can use their small bell inside the dungeon if theyre on the same floor as you. Two ways to go about but if you're terrible and know youre gonna die often, id give them the glyph for repeat summoning.
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Should I give up trying to pvp with a str build?

Bloodletters, double blades and parries keep rocking my ass.
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>>150506538
I see. I'm doing the defiled chalice right now, about to fight the watchdog and I've heard amy's pretty hard.
The glyph is wma2 (it's only four characters but it's what it says) if anybody wants to help.

Also, do summons also get half health when summoned into defiled chalices?
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Is the Reiterpallasch good as a pure skill weapon?
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>>150507243
If you're on layer and looking for help here id put a password. Its quite a trek to go through 2 layers to help ya out.
Hopefully someone answers your request soon.
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>>150504496
No, just in general. You get like 1-200k per layer in my experience, provided you're not speedrunning them.
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>>150507198

Strenght weapons are slow as fuck but they hurt like a truck. You need to learn to not be predictable.

>>150507383

It has an A scaling in skill and it's pretty stylish. There's your answer.
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>>150507198
No, just learn how to trade and bait attacks.
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>>150507431
Still on layer 2 trying to kill the dog. I've put a password, 'hotdog'.
I'll be ringing for some time to see if anybody comes. Otherwise it's back to trying with the meat shields that are the NPC summons.
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>>150508032
I feel like im gimping myself especially with the balanced rally on beast cutter.
I think i got the dodges and spacing down but im guessing im shit since i dont play unlocked or roll very often.

Also fuck that range on bloodletter, i wished it was as slow as other strength weapons, guess a ball of flesh isnt as heavy..
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>>150508083
Id just take off the pw and ring for randoms in the meantime, unless you're a really low bl you might have a hard time getting connections. Although it looks like theres a trend of low level builds right now with the resurgence of activity
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>check trophies for the game
>only 66% have defeated the cleric beast
>only 62% father gascoine
>only 50% vicar amelia
>only 33 mergo's wet nurse
wtf
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>>150508510
It's done anyway. Spamming the accursed brew goes a long way.
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>>150508578
This really isn't that uncommon for most games.
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>>150509068
>buy game
>don't really play it
but why
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>>150498576
sauce?
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>>150509213
Faggots
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>>150509213
They couldn't git gud
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>>150509213
Game was to hard for the casuals
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>>150510679
>le git gud meme
There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.


I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type your little Bloodborne thread up and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass, so you just choose the picture. Oh, and we all know the picture. The "epic" giant dad guy, isn't it? I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan posting about a weebshit game. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET. A pathetic Soulsfag NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "GIT GUD GIT GUD GIT GUD." You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.

Forever...
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>start a new ARC character because I never did it
>ring big bell for BSB because I hate that boss
>get two summons in the span of two minutes
>they're both twinks

I almost felt bad for the boss. Almost
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>>150511072
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you foul beast? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the School of Mensis, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on the Healing Church, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in arcane warfare and I’m the top hunter in the entire town of Yahar’gul. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before in Yharnam, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over a note? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of snatchers across the Hypogean Gaol and your sinister bell is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, beast. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, beast. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my kosm parasite. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of The Choir and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of Cathedral Ward, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” note was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have gained some fucking eyes. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will rakuyo spin all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, beast.
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>>150511628
>As we speak I am contacting my secret network of snatchers across the Hypogean Gaol and your sinister bell is being traced right now
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This git gud thing needs to die. Games don't have to be hard to be good. Why not add an easy mode for the newbies?
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Why is the chikage assassin so fucking hard?
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>>150512869
Just a cheeky prank
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>>150513204
I love the Call Beyond that comes in right at the end. Just icing on the cake.
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>>150513204
NO BULLY
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>>150511628
>You are nothing to me but just another target.
>Not another Prey.
2/10 try again
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>>150512231
GIT
U
D
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>>150513204
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Doll is probably the single most annoying leveling NPC, even the DS3 maiden was better.
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What is the best pve weapon?
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>>150523420
Absolutely Whirligig, mainly because of the L2 attack.
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Anyone want to help with low level first story chalice? These bosses wreck my bp
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>>150523850
Sure, what's the password?
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>>150523420
Saif
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>>150523850
Got room for one more?
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>>150495567
>asking for advice
>on this general
nobody is going to help you in this toxic part of the community
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>>150501850
>150
>no downsides
autism
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>>150505559
git gud
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Anyone else having issues going into online mode?
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>>150511072
>not being a neet
wageslave
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>>150526190
>toxic
Go and stay go
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>>150527080
>tfw forced need
I'm tired of this horrible dream
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>>150509414
Sorry, hunter. No idea.
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>>150522306
>talking shit about the doll
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>>150522306
No, she is princess.
I would tell you to fuck off but the doll wouldn't appreciate it, she loves you too.
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>>150525159
>>150525787
I'll ring with pass bbg just let me know if yall are still around
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>>150530972
I'm still here, ringing now
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>>150530972
Servers completely dropped me. I'll give you a hand if I can get back.
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>>150512231
That's no the point of the game you fucking retard it shouldn't have difficulty options
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>>150522306
Your a fucking retard she's the best npc period
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>>150530972
I guess i'll join
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Am I too OP Maria? Or would you prefer it that way? Also are you ringing again?
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>>150532361
this is my 8th or so time through the game, so no worries, and I'll ring again for next level
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>>150532405
Okay, ringing
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Thanks senpaitachi, RIP doggo we was ATF and sheeit
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>>150533782
No problem, need help with central?
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>>150533976
thank you but naw, I've got to clear out for my townhouse to be shown, all the best senpai
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Anyone wanna help a BL43 with headless bloodletting beast?
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How can i post my damn Hunts here when it keeps saying "Error! Error! File is to big!" and keep lowering the damn maximum memory requirement everytime i downscale the video?!
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>>150534473
pass?
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>>150535070
Stumpy
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>>150534904
Get a better toaster.
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>>150535158
Still nothing...
Capital letters too?
Rang the right bell?
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>>150534473

Man...
And people call Darkbeast the Camerabeast?
Ringing again
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>>150536153
Thanks so much man, that thing is awful to fight alone
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>>150536916
No proplem man
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Who's interested in doing some root chalice spelunking?
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How do you make chalices fun?
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>>150540046
Frc?
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>>150540475
I usually do FR, but I can make a FRC dungeon for you.
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Are the best flat arc gems you can get, the 67.5s? And the 72.5 triangle?
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>>150540469
Listen to music or something.
Chalice dungeons are so boring, especially when you need gems for your third character.
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>>150540469
By posting a password
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>>150540587
my bad m8 no spelunking for me
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>>150541261
Anyone?
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>>150541334
anyway to make music play in the background of the ps4?
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>>150542685
Yeah.
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/gb/ps4/music/usbmusic.html
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What are ya'll doin today in the ol' Bloodborne?
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>>150544814
hizzngr3 pvp
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>>150542964
Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvbaM-URygs
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>>150544814
Helped other people killing Maria and Living Failures, now I'm spelunking alone.
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Do eye runes increase the chance f a gem dropping?
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>>150544814
probably going to go explore Hemwick Charnel Lane, it and Hypogean Gaol are pretty much the only things besides doing the First Chalice Dungeon or fight Vicar Amelia that I can do right now to my knowledge
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>>150547429
Yep, but I'm not sure about the quality of them
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Anyone available for some Maria bullying?
Pass is bbg
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>>150544814
Just took on Ludwig for the first time. I got him down to his second form, survived for about a minute and then got rekt. I'm actually shaking, it was pretty exciting.
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>>150547429
okay what the hell is with the woods on the way to Hemwick, so many guys with guns, and those weird spiky hounds, it's kinda ridiculous
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>>150549319
The boss is ridiculously easy, they had to make it hard somehow
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So I just beat Ludwig for the first time and it turns out my str/arcane wheel build might actually be able to make use of the Holy Moonlight Sword. I have 25str and 40arc with 12skill. My question is, how much skill do MLGS builds run? Is my build able to use it efficiently? I'm asking because I originally intended this to be a wheel build but fuck the moonlight sword looks cool
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>>150549631
so what's the best way to handle those woods, cause the hounds are pretty easy to kill, but those gun mobs are ridiculous, they take off like a quarter of my health with each shot
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>>150549968
Just run.
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>>150549968
Just run through, there's a lamp right after that area
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>>150547826
Let me hook up my PS4, I've been playing with an old Xbox all day, can't miss out on a good bully
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>>150542628
Seriously does no one have the answer?
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hello /bbg/, ive just bought the game and finally got the ps4 and ps+ to run, how do i do coop now?
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>>150550837
Get some insight and buy the small resonant bell from the insight shop
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>>150551101
what about the beckoning bell? what does that do?
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>>150550723
hold on i'll check what i got on my Ayy

>>150547826
Still looking for bullying
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>>150551173

>Beckoning
Summon people to help you

>Small Resonant

Get summoned by people ringing a Beckoning

>Sinister

Get summoned for PVP by other Sinster bell ringers
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>>150551173
That lets you ask other hunter's for help ( aka summoning help )

You can press square to read items descriptions and see what each items do
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>>150550837
First, hit Options, go into System>Network>set Matching Regions to 'Worldwide'

To co-op with randoms, just ring your Beckoning Bell in your inventory and people within your level range and in your area will be summoned.

To co-op with someone specific, say /bbg/, go back into that Network screen. In the Password Matching section, type in a password, any will do, and people with that password in their Password Matching section will be able to co-op with you. You won't be able to summon randoms if you have set a password.

To get summoned to another world yourself, same process as before, just ring your Small Resonant Bell instead.
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>>150551414
so once i rung the beckoning bell i just have to wait?
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>>150551506
Yeah, if someone in that area is ringing a bell looking for help or to pvp, you will get summoned if the bells match
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>>150550723
Yep seems like it.
I aint got anything stronger than that.

>>150547826
>>150551235
*Still looking for bullying?* (Forgot questionmark)
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>>150552003
I've got 2

>Physical ATK UP +9.1%
>Add arcane ATK +67.5
>ATK vs the kin DOWN -10.9%

Should I go for stamina down or are these good?
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>>150552373
blunts go up to 10.9%
ideal, though, is nourishing %, not phys
arc % also exist but I'm not sure how much better they are if at all
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>>150550103
>>150550091
made it through, and yeah so far Hemwick has been pretty easy, anything I should keep in mind when I reach the Witch?
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>>150552373
Depends on what weapon you're using.
If its got a thrust move it shouldnt be to much of a problem.

Even less so, if you plan on doing pvp.
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>>150552771
I forgot about blunts, should I use them if I'm using a wheel?
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>>150552841
Ignore the ghosts, focus on the witch.
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>>150553071
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>>150553356
Sorry lol, first time I've used chalice gems
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>>150553075
okay, also one of the Blood Gems I'm using has Phys UP at full HP +2.7, what exactly does that mean?
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Anyone need a hand real quick? Don't want to have hooked my PS4 up for nothing.
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>>150553501
You get extra damage when your HP bar is full.
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>>150553501
It means you only get the +2.7 damage buff when your health is full.

Only useful in early game, where there arent many gems to fill up your slots.
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if i open the gestures panel, theres some symbols underneath it with the ps4 controller and some arrows what does it mean?
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>>150554090
Hold X and move the joystick like the image
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>>150553449
>>150553356

Alright, I'm using an ARC wheel twink and I was told the best gems to use were flat arcs for that. I've never used chalice gems before, so if you could send me in the right direction I'd appreciate it
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>>150554090
hold the X button while swinging your controller in the direction they tell you to. to quick-access the gestures.

its not reliable thou just select the gestures themselves from the menu.
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>>150554342
what you have is fine, but the best are just nourishing % + flat arc, which you also get from brainsuckers
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>>150554274
>>150554389
neat
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>>150554342
wait what are you looking for?
flat triangles?

If so i ended up making one with a bunch.
Note: "Cursed Odd Arcane Damp BG" is always flat arcane with random secondary effects. Can be farmed for, as much as you like.
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>>150554553
It only took me like 15 minutes to get these, should I keep trying for nourishing?
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>>150554701
2 flat radials and a flat triangle
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Btw guys using hoh rune is gr8 for srrc co op.

Catching so many people off guard and camping the lantern with boomhammer and cannons for reinforcements is much fun.
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anyone down to help me kill the hotdog in the end of the first story chalice? pass is bbg
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>>150555495
Omw
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>>150555495
What covenant rune are you using?
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>>150555163
well there you got the triangle

one quick google and here you have the radials
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>>150555570
none I'm level 20
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>>150555703
Awesome, thanks
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ded doge, thanks ATF, I won't have guns any more
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>>150553075
man those ghosts suck to fight, now I have to run back there

>>150553794
>>150553846
ah okay
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>>150556290
No problem
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Anyone need any help with anything up to Amelia or DLC? On my level 30
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Lookin for help on the witch of hemwick fight. My password is "grapes".
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What are the best flat percentage phys gems you can find without doing root chalices?
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>>150559220
>flat percentage phys gems
wat
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>>150556298
okay have beaten the witches and am now Runed up properly(so now I can carry an extra Blood vial, 4 extra Quicksilver Bullets, and take 3% less physical damage), am also now at level 40(by the end of the Witch fight I had about 43,000 Blood Echoes, which helped me level up by quite a bit

should I do Hypogean Gaol next, or should I tackle Vicar Amelia?
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>>150559878
Get what you can from Gaol, even if you don't manage the boss, then Amelia.
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>>150559367
The ones that just add a couple of percents to physical attack, without any other shit
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>>150559878
Complete Yahar'gul, if you don't kill the boss now you'll basically oneshot him later.
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>>150560127
The frenzy shits drop like 23% phys gems beforte Orphan of Kos
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>>150560103
>>150560194
okay, so I know Adella is there, and at least one Rune, and if I remember properly I have to at least see Darkbeast Paarl before I can make Djura friendly, anything else particularly noteworthy in terms of loot there?
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>>150560426
Plenty of twin gems, tonitrus, some bolt paper and an armour set.
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>>150560254
Okay, thanks mate
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Aah or Ahh?
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>>150564769
Ahh,
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>>150564769
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH ! KOS
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>>150566202
>that spoiler

Disgusting.
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>>150566324
OR
SOME
SAY
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Is it bad that i memorized Micolash final monologue?
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>>150568467
No, it's the least you can do
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Why is rom so cute?
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>>150570228
Rom is best waifu
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I have a strength and a Arcane character what should i make next?
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>>150568467
I've done it, too, don't worry.
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>>150571173
Skill or quality, bloodtinge is for edgy memelords and you'll only get three weapons with it.
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>>150571503
As opposed to the one or two skill weapons.
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>>150568467
I did too, anon.
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>>150571651
>Beasthunter Saif
>Burial Blade
>Blades of Mercy
>Rakuyo
>Saw Spear
>Ludwigs Holy Blade
>Threaded Cane

Probably more I can't think of
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>>150571651
Skill weapons: Cane, Blade of Mercy, Burial Blade, Saif, Reiter, Rakuyo, Saw Spear, Rifle Spear, Church Pick

Bloodtinge weapons: Chikage, Bloodletter, Bowblade

Sure.
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Should i do it?
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>>150571961
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>>150571961
If you think you ought to, go for it. 50 is just fine, I'd personally opt to level your physical stats to wield more weapons. But if you plan on only using Kos Parasite and Saif or some such, 70 wouldn't hurt much beyond shifting your multiplayer range by a good chunk.
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>>150571173
Let's make a list of builds

Level Based:
The BL: 544
The BL: 31 Early Game Twink (For co-op with peeps as low as level 10)

Affiliation Builds:
The Workshop Hunter
The Old Hunter
The Powder Keg
The Church Hunter / Executioner / Ludwig's Holy Blades
The Choir / Ayy
The Vileblood

Or just Kosmplays of characters like:
Gehrman
Maria
Gascoigne
Micolash
Brador
Ect...
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>>150571945
>Saif
>Threaded Cane
those are Arcane weapons
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Combine the last game you played before/after Bloodborne with Bloodborne

It is now its own game

How does it work out?
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>>150573864
>Darkest Chalice Dungeon

Yeah basically the same thing.
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>>150572295
if i level that up i will probably god to level 116 i would still be able to invade 98's though what do you think?
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>>150572386
How would you make a ludwig's holy blade build?
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>>150572386
tfw i want to make a 70 arc character and use the moonlight greatsword i can't do that unless i go to 125 should i?
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>>150573864
JoJo's Bizzare Adventure Eyes of Heaven how would that work out?
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>>150575631
Military Veteran 50/50 Strength/Skill. You'll be above 98 if you want decent Vitality though.
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>>150575504
If you're going to level up that high, 116 is probably where to stop. You can coop with 80's at that level.
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>>150576106
Moonligh beams would be shit on that
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>>150576326
lhb=/=hmls
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>>150576326
Oh I thought you meant the weapon, not the boss. 25/50 Strength/Arcane is what you want.
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>>150544814
Waylaying Reddit and taking their dregs. You?
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>>150575975
People in the city of Yharnam are manifesting bizarre powers due to the overzealous usage of an ancient artifact the church has possession of. The player character gets one of these powers and has to stop the spread of them before someone bad gets something dangerous, but it might already be too late.

Basically, a more aggressive Part 4.
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I'm glad you're still alive.
Used to visit here pretty often, but got a bit bored with the game some weeks before DS3 launch. Then I think I saw some merged BB/DS threads, which led me to think this community must have died.
...I just hope people aren't still spouting the same le maria bully xD meme.
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>>150577369
>Then I think I saw some merged BB/DS threads

But this never happened.
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>>150577638
dsg likes to use the 'soulsborne' in the OP and include BB in the game list sometimes, but bbg has always been bbg
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>>150577369
The merged BB/Ds3 threads didn't go well because it. Plus it pissed dsg off. As for the Maria memes, they're still alive and kicking.

>>150577638
It did when people tried to make this a ps4 From General or subtly put Ds3 in the OP name. Didn't last long though because everyone here hated it and Ds3 bombed.
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>>150577882
>because it
because it began to stray away from Bloodborne*
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>>150577747
>>150577882
Yeah, we never really merged, /dsg/ swung its dick around for a bit and /bbg/ talked about DS3 for about three weeks because it was just there, but that's it. We never actually left these threads, thank fuck.
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>>150573864
well last game besides Bloodborne I played was Assault Suit Leynos, so Bloodborne: Mecha Edition I guess, main changes I see outside of aesthetics would be Bloodtinge having more options, Guns being slightly more effective, and at least one shield that isn't a gimmick and is actually useful being added in
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>>150579945
Loch Shield is actually really useful for arcane attacks
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>search for bbg on catalog
>see /dsg/ + /bbg/

Why are they doing this
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>>150580576
Oh wow, they're at it again
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>>150580576
>be dsg
>see new general called dsgg
>We need to be different
>I know, lets be dsg + bbg
Long story short, dsg are cucks who are afraid of others using a similar name
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>>150580576
>mfw /dsg/ has ded thred posters
>mfw /dsg/ + /bbg/ hasn't got a single BB post in it
>mfw /dsg/
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>>150573864
Bloodborne and Serious Sam

Oh my
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>Playstation Network is under Maintenance
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>150583189
Again? Fuck's sake lads
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>>150583904
Fuck it i'm just going to stop playing games that require internet
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>>150573864
Bloodborne and Rocket league...
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>>150583189
>>150583904
>>150584036
at least at the point where I'm at online isn't technically necessary, but player notes are too damn useful, so I'll just wait for now
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>>150586343
Yeah especially in Chalice Dungeons you don't want to miss those illusionary walls
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>>150588131
speaking of Chalice Dungeons, I have access to the first one, any advice for fighting that double scythed Undead Giant(and anything else I should keep an eye out for)?
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>>150589663
Did this cunt yesterday for the first time in months. Just hug his left and hit him once or twice before dodging his attacks. Dont get too far or hell jump and I found it more suprising than before. Or maybe I was just tired.

Also dont forget to look for blood rituals to do the next chalice. This is valid for all story chalices
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>>150591181
>Did this cunt yesterday for the first time in months. Just hug his left and hit him once or twice before dodging his attacks. Dont get too far or hell jump and I found it more suprising than before. Or maybe I was just tired.
so basically BSB tactics then?
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>>150573864
Bloodborne and DMC 3.

Take a moment to appreciate how fast everything would be.
Then you can cry because you'll never be able to experience those high octane hunts.
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The night, and the dream, were long.

May you find your worth in the waking world, hunters.
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>>150594236
>tfw
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post yfw /bbg/ dies for good
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>>150595864
It's already dead. We are already armored core general 2. It's time to let go and become one with /dsg/.
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>>150595908
but anon

dsg is dying. Literally. Go there right now
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>>150591181
well made it past him, Layer 2 is a right bastard though, freaking bell witches
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Anyone willing to help me with Loran Dark beast?
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>>150596362
Sure thing, but I'll have to hook up my PS4 first. Should be with you in like five minutes or so.

Post a pass, by the way.
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>>150596032
>mfw /bbg/ will outlive /dsg/
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>>150596923
Oh thanks a lot. Pass is bbg
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>>150597002
Are you beckoning? I've been ringing my small resonant for a little while now.
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>>150597535
Shit sorry, I tried to solo him and after I died I rang resonant instead of beckoning. I am beckoning now.
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>>150597535
Nicee thanks a lot! Sorry for the wait. I could never make him crumble and lose his buff, whirlgig and a friend is great for that.
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>>150598134
It's a fire Whirly with perfect gems, it tears him up.

You're clearly a skill build though, why don't you have a Saw Spear? That thing would have put him through the wringer, get that hot serration bonus for big damage.
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Huh? Who said that?
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>>150598837
Me
I said that
Bitch
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>>150599026
LUUUUUUDWIIIIIIGG
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>>150598240
I "wasted" my upgrade materials on chikage, rakuyo and simon's bowblade. I also have +8 bom and scythe. I am upgrading the church pick now, is saw soear better?
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>>150599657
Saw Spear and Church Pick are both great options. Saw Spear gets the speed advantage and one of the best trick attacks in the game, Church Pick gets giant damage numbers if you slot it with thrust gems, plus it has a more interesting moveset. They both get bonus beast damage, so really it all depends on which one you like more.

For PvP, Saw Spear is probably better just because of it's comically large amount of phantom range, but Church Pick is, again, probably more fun, plus you can oneshot other players with the charged R2 or the followup.
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>>150598240
This is my first build that is pretty shitty but the other ones are bl70 and I want to make a platinum on this character that is 120.
It is 33/31(!!)/15/50/35/6. It is super weird but I didn't know what I was doing as I played it blind.

>>150600113
Yeah I heard Church Pick is pretty fun and I played my very first game only with saw cleaver and I am tired if that moveset already.
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Why is rapid poison so bad?

100+10% of enemey health is so lame, against someone with 50 Vit its 250 damage, and it takes so long to proc. I cant think of a single setup where damage increasing gems wouldnt give a higher DPS.

Poison builld-up and damage should have had S scaling with BLT.
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>>150600913
>and damage should have had S scaling with BLT.
This so much. It would have been great but maybe OP but still better than absolutely useless. Bleed builds are great in DaS3 and super fun it's shame something like this isn't in bb
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>>150600913
t. Chikagenigger
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Help me decide lads. Should I make a Skill/BLT edgelord, a Str/Arc Wheel toting paladin, or a pure Arc ayy mode build?
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>>150601462
Be a man and rock that Wheel. You get the added benefit of having access to basically every weapon in the game with that set up, all it takes is getting the cold abyssals to get proper damage out of them.
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>>150601274
I dont think it would be OP, if Posion had a 1.0 Scaling thingy, it would mean at 50 BLT poison build-up and damage would be 85% higher than base. That wouldnt be gamebreaking, rapid poison would now do 185 damage + 10%. It would also let BLT builds use more than 3 weapons, since a Poison Gemmed BoM would be viable.

The biggest travesty is the fact that the Madaras Whistle doesnt inflict like 150 Slow Poison. How can you not have poison ON A FUCKING GIANT NIGHTMARE SNAKE????

>>150601276
Nah, If poison gems were actually viable you'd see 50 BLT builds using the Wheel or Whirligig at base stats to hit people with multihit attacks or the L2.
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>>150601890
Would that 85dmg more make a difference? I think that the 10% is the problem and should scale with BLT

>>150601553
Is 20STR 50Arc viable for the wheel? Does the trick version only scale with Arc like tricked chilage with Blt?
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>>150603402
My build is 20/50 and it does just fine for damage. Technically 25/50 is better, but the difference isn't anything particularly noticeable.

The only things you need to worry about after that is how much endurance you think you need and what weapons you want to use. My build has 20 end because the Wheel is a stamina hog, but even then it doesn't use as much as, say, the Burial Blade.

And no, it doesn't function like bloodtinge weapons when you trick it. Tricking it gives it something like a 30% decrease to all your physical damage but a 300% increase to your arc scaling. You slot nourishing gems into it and your numbers start to get crazy.
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>>150573864
>bloodborne plus VTMB
Shame hunters are shit-tier in VTMB unless they manifest true faith.
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Is there some kind hunter to help me with Defiled Amy?

>>150604323
>300%
holy shit that's amazing, that means I should apply Arcane gems right?
Also HMS is worse than the wheel for 20/50 build?
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>>150605156
Sure, I can help. Password?
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>>150605363
Thanks! pass is bbg
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>>150605156
I'll help out, sure. Post a pass and I'll be there.

As for the gems you want, you want nourishing gems, which give general attack up rather than just physical or arcane attack up. Since the Wheel does both damage types when it's tricked, you'll get more damage out of nourishings than anything else if your arc is high enough.

The MLG is viable as well on a 20/50 build, though it's a little tricky to get set up. You want more nourishings for it as well, for some of the same reasons as you want them for the Wheel: It does both physical and arc damage when tricked. It won't do as much damage untricked as on a physical build, and it won't even do as much damage on the tricked R1s, but the moonbeams and the L2 will both do big damage.
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>>150605472
Ringing at the lamp now.
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>>150605557
Oh shit sorry, ringing again.

>>150605476
Thanks for the info I wanted to do both HMS and Wheel for my next build.
Hey you want to help me along with the other anon? Thanks are two summons ok for amy?
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>>150605970
It happens to the best of us dude. This boss is a bitch anyway.
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Question here, it's been a while I haven't played.

Can we now access any layer from a CD through SRRC to join a player provided we have the password ?
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Fuck. Let me know if you got him lads.
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>>150604323
>>150605156
>a 300% increase to your arc scaling

It gives a 200% increase to its arcane damage (so total 300% normal damage) and +0.50 Arcane scaling, which almost doubles its base scaling of 0.56. It also gets a flat +20 arcane damage on top of all that.

It goes from having 50 base arcane with 0.56 Arcane scaling (C), to 150 base arcane with 1.06 Arcane scaling (S) with +20 flat.
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>>150606545
Ahh, my bad. I didn't know all the specifics, I just knew that somewhere in there was a 300. Thanks for the clarification!

>>150606530
Don't you worry, we took him down.
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>>150606650
>>150606530
Thank guys I really wouldn't have killed her without you. it's a pity you died moonlight hunter but we did it anyway. Platinum trophy is now just ahead.
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I want to hug rom!!!
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Yesterday I had my shittiest co-op losing streak I've ever experienced.
I thought I got gud...
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Anyone want to help a low level build with Orphan of Kos? He's being a real asshole right now and I'm tired of his shit.

BL54, pass is purge. Beckoning in the Lighthouse Hut.
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>>150609281
Can I help when I am BL120? Dob't know if they downscale such a huge difference. Ringing anyway
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>>150609281
On my way.
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Needing help with hotdog of first phtumeru chalice please. Pw: awayaway
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>>150609281
Had to go but I was ringing for a while and it seems 60bl difference is too much. Good luck
parry to win
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>>150609861
Got him nvm. But the npc is useless
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>tfw got wombo combo'd
Did you manage to get him or should I ring again?
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>>150610329
You may have fallen Powder Keg Father O'Byron, but your death was not in vain. The Orphan has been put to rest, thanks to your efforts.

May the good blood guide your way.
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>>150610319
Most NPC's are good for a distraction and nothing more. Queen Killer, Valtr, and Mensis Scholar Damian can actually hold their own. The rest are mediocre

Except for Henriett and Tomb Prospector summons. They're shit
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>>150612087
Beastclaw Jozef is the worst, 99% of the times he'll get stuck in a corner or start rolling aimlessly before you can enter the boss area.
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>>150612087
>Queen Killer
>good
Every time I see the host summon him for Defiled Amy I die inside a little. He's fucking useless, at least on that fight.
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>>150612256
He's garbage against Amygdala because he rarely ever does the smart thing and abuse his infinite cannon shots to blast Amygdala's head inside out and instead tries to whack his ankles.

Against doggo and Yharnam though, he's a right and proper monster. Beatdowns almost as vicious as Tarkus.
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>>150612256
Should have added, Defiled Amy is the exception for Queen Killer. He kind of sucks there unless he lands his cannon on Amy's head. Even then, that won't stop him from attacking legs though.

>>150612230
Josef's on the shitlist too. Seen him die to Ailing Loran Abhorrent Beast without healing himself backup at all. First 30 seconds of the fight too.
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>HP gradually depletes
who comes up with this shit
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>>150612832
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>>150612832
Hp depletes actually makes sense as a curse. Fucking attack down doesn't make a lick of it.
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>>150612256
I just defeated defiled amy with him but I mostly used him as a distraction while I spammed accursed brew and pressed up and then triangle.
It's not my first try though and in one of them he just passed through the fog and stood there in front of me, and I wasn't able to move.
I'll make a webm later.
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>Being an Executioner, invading in Cainhurst to purge filth
>Invade a host and his summon, they're both using the Cane
>Get phantom range R1'd from ten feet away, hit the host twice and it does nothing
>Full five seconds later and he takes damage
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It's happening
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How 2 fight great phtumeru bloodletting beast
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>>150615530
The best advice I can give you is to learn proper roll timing. Positioning doesn't always work with him because of his wacky hitboxes- the number of times I've been hit for full damage by the stank of his underarm is ridiculous.

There are things that can help, sure. He's a beast; fire and serrated weapons tear him up something fierce. You can also break all of his limbs and they'll start taking increased damage, as well as making him stagger and allow for more hits.

The safest place to fight him is right under him. He doesn't have any grabs when he's headless, so now the only things you have to worry about are the stomp and the slam. If you try to get away from him, he'll use his range to beat you down without a break.

Or, if all else fails, post a pass and ring your beckoning bell. There are plenty of friendly hunters willing to lend a hand to those who need help.
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>>150615895
The most important thing is to never lock on
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Can you still get invades in this game?
I'm thinking on doing some invasions, I don't really like duels.
I'm thinking of doing a level 50 BLT chikage character to invade in Cainhurst/whatever.
Is the game still alive? Should I invest on PS+?
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>>150615895
I might post a pass when I'm more used to his attack patterns or more desperate. I'm trying to stay below him but he always gets me with a stomp or a punch. Doesn't help he's like twice the camera and it's hard to see what he's doing.
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>>150616139
Yes, especially in Mensis and DLC areas
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>>150616308
Isn't Mensis mostly for duels?
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>>150616389
It depends on your blood level.
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Hey I'm following the Arcane 101 and they mention an arcane gem in iosefka's cave. They mean the cave between the woods and Iosefka's clinic right ? Where is this gem in the cave ?

Trying to not lose time fighting those fucking giants if I can
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Why does Queen Annalise refer to herself in third person?
Is this a thing among English nobility?
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>>150617518
Its in the back left corner from the Forbidden Woods entrance. You can drop down to it since its open. There's those annoying parasites around it though. Just grab it and run.
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>>150617658
Perfect, thanks anon
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>>150617606
It's the privilege of a king or a queen to call himself/herself at the third person. I am not sure about the english, but it was true for the french kings. It's another way to signify your importance to the mere filthy peasant talking to you that you are not his friend
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>>150617606
Yup
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>>150617606
Pretty much.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we
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What versions of cane and saw spear are the best for Arcane ? Uncanny ?
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>>150618101
Lost with fire gems.
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>>150618719
Alright. It's gonna be a long ride kek
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>>150618997
you have no idea goyim
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>>150619096
Very nice...
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>>150619096
>+15 fire on a radial

Shit, is that an offshape? I thought you could only get +physical from Ihyll.

Also post offshapes while we're at it.
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>>150619783
yep, it's impossibru to get a +elemental secondary on radials
that noursihing gem is way more useful though, god damn
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>>150619096
>>150619783
Anyone else got any rare as fuck gems? Offshapes? I'm trying for radial and triangle blood gems.
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How come I can never join my friend in chalice dungeons. It worked at one point but then refuses to now
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>>150621748
Maybe there's a typo in your password.
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>>150621748
Make sure you both have the exact same password
Make sure you're both set to worldwide
Make sure you both have fine internet connections and an open NAT
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>>150621414
They exist, you just have to slave away in the mines like a good rngslave
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>>150622574
>tfw so autistic I could never be satisfied with a less than 31.5 offshape
Life is pain
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ive just killed the bloodstarved beast in old yharnam, where do i go now?
are there covenants in this game?
also some anon said i should go quality str/skill in this game, what are the softcaps for all the stats?
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>>150622848
that's rough my dyde, I've farmed for bt off-shapes on about 3 lads now and I've never gotten a perfect 31.5 set on any weapon
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>>150622574
I've always had the issue that once I farm things like that I finally feel like I'm just done. I'll admire it, pat myself on the back, go murder some central Yharnam idiots and watch the numbers fly. But then I always just stop playing after like 20 minutes of that and either play something else or start a new playthrough.
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>>150623013
Sad, but I'm the same. I complete a build, get the best gems I can be bothered with and then just make a new build. I don't know why I'm doing it, really.
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>>150623013
Most of these builds were made for fcs and fights in mensis/nf/dlc areas
I wish there was a bigger scene for real invasions at higher levels but there isn't really a big incentive to go to ng+ or summon for it
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>>150622930
Find a guy with a big sack near Oedon Chapel and let him give you a big wack.
There are covenants in the form of runes, but you can't use them yet.
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>>150622930
Stats softcap at 50. If you don't want to buy the Chief Hunter Emblem, look around the Cathedral Ward lamp and you'll find where to go. There are sort of things like covenants, but you're still a ways away from the first of them.
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>>150622848
>mfw I'm the same

The easy solution was to simply give up and avoid the pain of looking at your gems by not playing that character anymore
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>>150623194
I pretty much gave up on my ARC/STR character before even reaching dungeons because of how many horror stories I've heard about farming good gems.
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>>150622574
You can't hide your meme build from anyone Mercure, no one else is crazy enough to do that.
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>>150623170
>>150623181
alright im in hypogean goal but the enemies seem pretty hard and im almost out of vials and bullets, does someone want to coop with me?
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>>150623340
who?
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>>150623285
It really isn't that bad. Pthumerian Elder dies to Blacksky Eye, Amygdala is easy once you get it down, Watchdog is fairly easy to dodge as well. The only trouble you're likely to run into is Abhorrent Beast and Ebrietas, and Abhorrent Beast isn't even that bad either.

Ebrietas is a right cunt though.
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>>150623437
Can't co-op there m8.
People mostly go there to run through and collect the loot. It's not the best place for actual progression.

Look around in the cathedral, you'll find where the actual path to progression is.
Spoiler:
It's a door that was previously closed
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>>150623843
oh alright.
im out of vials and bullets now, can i go to central yharnam and farm them there?
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>>150623437
I don't think you can actually coop there at that point, otherwise I'd give you a hand. The boss there is rather tough, and you can definitely summon for him, so give a call if you need a hand on him.

Try to get behind the enemies and charge R2 for the backstab. When they pause to charge up, charge R2 again. Also learn the parry timings if you can. A good idea, if you have the health to survive a hit, is to bait out their jump attack, as it's the easiest to parry and a visceral will regain all your health.
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>>150623941
If you like.
If you know you're going to be using bullets, always pop blood bullets before hand. 5 bullets are worth more than 1 vial.
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>>150623147
Try hizzngr3 for gemmed fights.
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>>150624460
How populated is hizzngr3 ? What are the good hours ? Tried it the other day and couldn't find anyone in like 20min
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I don't really know how the beckoning bell works and I'm trying to get help with rom in a chalice dungeon am I wasting my time waiting for someone?
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what do i do with these messenger hats?
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>>150626559
Put them on messengers
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>>150625737
Please I have 200000 blood echoes beging to be spent in the damn boss area and I can't use the bold hunters mark to get out
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>>150626876
what
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>>150625737
If you're in a chalice dungeon and ring your beckoning bell without a password, it'll summon someone who is using a Root chalice searching for co-op (or someone searching for co-op in the dungeon you're in)
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>>150624607
Try going by est time.
Word of warning on the shitload of bt builds.
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>>150627452
Go to the house in Hunter's Dream and go out through the last "door" ande turn right. There are messengers in a tree trunk give it to them. I finished the game without noticing this corner in the Dream no worries
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Guys what was this hitbox. I'm not complaining, I'm just confused.
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>>150604484
>Hunters
>Shit tier
they would rek Hunters are Op
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>>150632141
They are just shitty humans in a setting where archmages and elder vampires literally walk around with console commands enabled.
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>>150632794
No there not they destroy beasts and even Great Ones witch would rape elder vampires
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>>150630004
cute
also, is the swordhammer thing good?
does anyone want to coop with me trhough hemwick charnel lane?
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>>150631631
wheel r2 is a circle, so it can sometimes hit people in the back when they're infront of you due to the hitbox ending up behind them
hitting a charged r2 to the back= backstab
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>>150633659
Yeah I get that much, I was just surprised that I got a backstab on someone in front of me. I'm sure it wasn't entirely the charge attack though, maybe some combination of it and the way his running attack turned his model or something.
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>>150634017
it's happened to me, I was looking for the clip but it was lost in the vast ocean of other shitty pvp clips
there's another webm of some guy landing a similar r2 and getting the backstab (almost in cainhurst) but I don't have it saved
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>>150634214
also**
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>>150633216
anyone?
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>>150634932
sure I can come help out an aspiring goofus, gimme a pw
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>>150634932
Is it the first time you're going through hemwick?
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>>150635115
alright, pw is bbg
could you also tell me if the swordhammer is any good?
>>150635218
yes
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>>150635281
ringng, tho I recommend playing first time areas solo
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>>150635281
You're on /bbg/ and also asking for co-op help on your first playthrough?
I'm not angry, just disappointed
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>>150635418
i just have more fun doing coop
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>>150635281
Kirkhammer is fun. The tricked form's slowness takes a little getting used to, but it has massive damage potential.
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thanks for the help m8, but where do i have to go next? dead end behind the boss
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>>150637115
If you've beaten Amelia, look around the Cathedral Ward and you'll find where to go. If not, go fight her first.
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>>150637115
if you got to hemwick, you're at the boss that unlocks the next area past cathedral ward, just climb those steps
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>>150637190
it was still daytime in hemwick
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>>150637371
I'm not the anon that coop'ed, so I was just covering all the bases.
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>>150637476
yeah I was tryin to let him know as spoiler free as possible but I guess if he's posting looking for co-op its probably not his intent to do a blind run
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>>150637190
>>150637224
just to clarify, ive beaten a beast in central yharnam, father casgoigne, bloodstarved beast and now the witch of hemwick.
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>>150637698
Alright, then as >>150637224 said, go up the steps to the cathedral right next to the path to Hemwick.
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>helping people with Camerabeast on my low level
>every single one summons the NPC Hunter as well

Why?
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I'm playing through this game for the first time and I'm stuck at Spookbeast Paarl (the chalice dungeon version). He has insane amount of health, hits like a truck, and is gigantic so the camera goes apeshit. How do I beat this fucker?
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>>150638368
break his limbs, after he gets staggered break his face, when he loses his charge he has few patterns, double swipe jump away, jump away, and single swipe jump swipe jump, basically he'll swipe two or very occasionally three times unless he can get enough distance to go for the charge
when he goes for the charge hit a different limb and try to keep him without charge as long as possible
he's a beast so fire paper and serrated weapons are great, but something with high stagger like a kirk with BBP can work well enough too if you don't overcommit
his aoe is a great way to punish his limbs and face but you should be i-framing it or making sure it doesn't hit you in phase 3 or while attacking/dashing
lightning resistance helps but phys is also important, bone ash set is the best for this but one piece of heryks thrown in for the extra bolt doesn't hurt
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>>150501090
How do i become this it looks fun AF
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>>150639141
Pretty sure he has the beast rune equipped with Claws, it's pretty useless in terms of MLG duelfaggotry, but I guess it's fun.
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>>150632794
You don't know much about Bloodborne the Hunters are extremely powerful
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>>150638136
they have autism
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>>150639054
Thanks anon,I'll try this Tomorrow.
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>>150640223
I'm talking about world of darkness hunters.
Though the only really powerful BB hutners are dream-bound ones.
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>>150640562
good luck my guy, and just remember that if you aren't positive you'll get the i-frame on the explosion, you can just stop moving and eat it and if you have the right gear on it'll only do around 50% -75% depending on your vit
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>>150638136
They're regular folk that don't know about the difficulty increase.

Ive spammed roar and wait at the npcs and only like 2/50 understood.
Its w.e tho they get one shot anyways then go online to complain about chalices being bullshit.
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What attacks of the wheel are multi hit? I know the tricked dash r1 is, is the tricked R2?
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>>150641142
Third and fourth R1, dash R1, roll R1, running R1, all the R2 attacks.
Only the tricked form has multi hit attacks.
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>>150638072
alright i killed amelie and got a blooddrunk hunter eye, got grabbed by an alien and got then killed by an huntere i guess.
was i going the right way?
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>>150641396
plus the backstep r2 but not the running r2
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>>150641417
First time? You should probably not do the Hunter's nightmare just yet, the first boss is a casual filter and you need 30+ Vit just to stand a chance.
Also, try to finish this game blind.
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>>150640849
How much does co-op increase the difficulty? I've always wondered. Is it just boss health or damage output as well?
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>>150641923
Only for co-operators depending on the beckoner's blood level.
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>When the downscaled, gemmed out 150 shitter unzips their minigun

How the fuck are you supposed to deal with this? It's actually unbeatable, nothing has armor early enough to stop that shit.
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i fought with the crow lady against some other guy where i fought father casgoigne and both died, did i fuck up?
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>>150643231
yes
>>150642728
shoot him or dodge him out of bullets/tactically hide like a strategist and not coward
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>>150643231
Yup. Once Eileen is dead she's dead for good. Pretty sure you can get the crow hunter badge from her body but you'll miss out on one of the best runes in the game.
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>>150641605
Thanks, wasn't sure
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>>150643341
>Shoot him
>Get clipped by bullets that do way more damage than mine
>Dodge it
>Get clipped by bullets at the end of my i-frames
>Go for cover
>He stops shooting until I either come back out or they get to me

The only way I can think of to actually fight that is to get the surprise attack, and that's really hard to do once you make your initial entrance- or if they're smart enough to keep an eye behind them all the time.
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>>150643845
the gun should interrupt the gatling gun, so dodge to his left and shoot, as for being unable to i-frame them, you're dodging wrong
>>
Anyone need some help?
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>>150643965
If you'd like, you could help a low level Executioner take on Laurence. My gems are good, but I'm 100% certain I'll get oneshot by half his shit with only ~1200 health.

I'm BL54, the pass will be purge. If you're interested, that is.
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>>150644291
I'm interested because I'm on a low level myself, but you'll have to give me a minute to get his skull
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>>150644836
Sounds good. Just say when you're ready and I'll start beckoning at the fog.
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>>150644916
Ready
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>>150640717
Oh yeah but the Dream Hunters are isanaly powerful
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>>150642728
Maybe try going to level 120 at least level matters more in bloodborne than it did in previous games
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how do i actually jump?
sprinting then doubletapping circle?
also is there any reason to buy another offhand weapon? im using the starter pistol
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>>150645868
>Make a low level build for low level PvP in a low level area

120 is pretty high, don't you think? For a game with only six stats, 100 feels like it ought to be the upper end to me. Anything more just feels like overkill.
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>>150645719
Holy shit your "waifu" looks like fucking crap.
Better than anything you're able to make in DS3, but still ugly.
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>>150645986
>sprinting then doubletapping circle?
Yeah.
>is there any reason to buy another offhand weapon?
Not really, starter pistol is all you need for parrying, so unless you're doing a bloodtinge build, or want a high-damage pistol for end-game, the starter is honestly everything you'd want as an off-hand.
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Nice work, fellow Executioner. May the good blood guide your way.
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>>150646087
eh not really to be it feels pretty good there are less stats but stats are more usful in bloodbonre plus they softcapt higher especially arcane
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>>150646805
No problem, I'm always ready to cleanse these tarnished streets.
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>>150646320
You have shit taste fuck you
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>>150645986
>>150646530
That depends, actually. The pistol gets better damage and less endlag, but the blunderbuss staggers like crazy, so it's really good for chasing down opponents that are on the run.

Plus it's way more satisfying to jam a shotgun into some poor beast's mouth for a parry, feels real strong.
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i have no idea what to do, ive killed amelie like hours ago and since then ive just been wandering around without finding a way to proceed
pls help
>>
can anyonE help me out with ludwih?

At fog gate pw gg123

Also its ng+
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>>150648698
The passwoooooord
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>>150649560
the one in old yharnam?
i dont know if i know the password
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>>150650020
Not in Old Yharnam, try exploring the center until you find a gate guarded by a giant leading to Alfred, if you've touched the skull, you're able to answer the question to unlock a door leading to the next stage.
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Is it worth it to put Arcane to 70? or should you just stay at 50?
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Could someone help me with Loran Darkbeast? Pass is cantsee

Fair warning I'm low level
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>>150651106
please help me
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>>150651106
If you're fine with either not having the stats to wield a lot of weapons or overleveling a good deal, then yes, probably. You won't get a whole lot more damage from your weapons, but your tools will get a significant increase.

>>150651321
Sure thing, I'm on my way.
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>>150650213
you mean yharnam center? because i cant find any door with a password
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>>150651409
Pure Arc? Why the fuck not
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>>150651546
There should be a guy asking for a password, it's on the center of Cathedral ward, with all the insight skulls and patrolling giants, leading to the Amelia cathedral.
The giant you should be looking for is the one sleeping next to a gate, follow that path until you start going down to a door with a guy asking for a password.
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>>150651843
I'm using the ayy parasite and the saif so yes
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Anyone need a hand?
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>>150653604
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>>150654148
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>>150654148
How the fuck does he keep that arm so fucking ripped?
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should i buy the crow armor or rather level up?
im at the forrest, lvl 35
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New thread for your lazy asses
>>150655828
>>150655828
>>150655828
>>150655828
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>>150655483
It's pretty cheap, you'll be fine if you buy it.
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