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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General. Let's talk about Sonic games, old and new, and the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, etc.

/sthg/ - #523 - Bad Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
Sonic Mania Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmtYdEWVzo [Embed]

Sonic Mania's Hidden Character Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzfbYI7wi0I [Embed]

Project 2017 Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCh9--2xcKk [Embed]

Classic Sonic and Green Hill Zone are in Sonic Dash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIFiuBzgkkE [Embed]

LEGO Dimensions Sonic Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgqMlOMvQNY [Embed]

Sonic Boom Season 2 Sneak Peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aew9e6KjbvA [Embed]

Sonic Boom Fire & Ice New Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbCJ0IIaE4E [Embed]

>Recent Releases<
Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games is out now for 3DS and Wii U.
Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is out for the 3DS on September 27.
The Sonic X seasons 1 and 2 collection will be released September 27.

Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom
Season 2 will air later this year.

Previous thread: >>150312240
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fast
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>>150378425
speed is my game
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>>150378394
This is thread #524, by the way.
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>>150378394
>[embed]
Anon...

For future reference don't just copy and paste, delete the "embeds" too.
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>>150378394

>Bad Edition
>AGAIN
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>>150378572
sorry, i didnt notice that, my bad
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>>150378569
>This is thread #524, by the way.
you are right, again my bad
hopefully i wont mess up next time
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>>150378742
It's okay. We all mess up sometimes.
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>>150378576
What would be the dumbest thing Retard!Sally could do? (Keeping in mind that in this instance, the only thing that's changed is that Sally is retarded, everyone else is relatively the same)
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>>150379003

She had Mina sing at her birthday party
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>>150379057
I was assuming that Retard!Sally was basically post-reboot, but sure, this works too.
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>>150379086

I was thinking anything goes here. But if were to assume a rebooted universe

>Thought Nicole was a ghost or burglar when they first met
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>>150379234
>>Thought Nicole was a ghost or burglar when they first met
I thought it was that time she tried to clean Nicole by putting her in a bath.

But sure, anything goes here
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>>150377921
>Or she's literally a cardboard box with a lynx face on it that Retard!Sally talks to because she thinks its a supercomputer

I want to see art of this so badly
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Installing Windows 10 onto Nicole
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>>150379505
Installing Windows Vista onto Nicole
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>>150379505
That must have been horrible for her. I bet Sally falls for all those ads claiming she can get a free Ipad too
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new game predictions:

Sonic Mania: will be average, but classic fags will jizz so hard on it, the reviews will be higher than it deserves.

Sonic 2017: Something goes horribly wrong in the last few months of dev. Buggy incomplete beta version is released as final. Better finished version will never be dumped.

I want to be wrong, but I've lost hope completely
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>>150380107
>Mania
It will be good, but will leave people wanting way more new zones than they are going to get, and the level choices for the remastered levels will be a bit lacking.

There's too little info on 2017 to make any real prediction yet.
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>want to start speedrunning sonic 2
>current genesis controller is awful with sticky buttons
>find someone on craigslist nearby selling genesis stuff
>has five controllers
>go to check them out
>all five feel terrible, one being even worse than the one I have now
>feel bad because the controllers were all I was interested in but pick up kid chameleon from him so I don't leave empty handed
>still stuck with my shitty pad
>scared to buy from ebay in fear of getting an equally bad controller

why does it have to be so hard to just go fast
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>>150380653
You have any classic game stores nearby? Maybe a thrift shop?
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>>150380653
IIRC, open up the controller, take a pink pearl eraser to the board. It should take off a lot of black residue and the buttons will work better.
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>>150380895
My area is 100% ded when it comes to any game stores that aren't gamestop. Also doesn't help that every thrift store I've ever been to here when I used to go hunting never carries any sega stuff. Guess the genesis just didn't take off here.
>>150380934
Do you know if that works for the dpad as well? It's kinda funky along with the buttons. I'll maybe give it a go on my current one but the other issue with the thing is the main wire being torn open, which as of now I've held the insides with electrical tape.
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>getting told to move to the next thread

W-well that was embarrassing.
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>>150381115
Yes you definitely are embarrassing anon
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>>150381338
No bully. I don't want to be reminded of real life. So how about that Sonic, everyone? He sure is fast, isn't he?
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>>150379493
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>>150381464
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>>150381509
This is sad, poor Sally
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>>150381094
Yeah it works on the dpad too. I'm not sure about the wires. Just see if cleaning helps first, there should be guides online if you're hesitant.
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>>150381657
Yeah I mean I figured I'd see if it works well on mine then buy one without a fucked up wire. Thanks for the advice though, hoping it works!
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>>150381509
You are a blessing anon. Can you do Sally throwing Nicole's handheld into the bath next?
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>>150381509
>>150381509

>Runs on donuts

I'm jealous
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>>150382507
It makes sense Sally's "friend" is run by food, since Sally herself is powered by potatoes. Well, more like she IS a potato, but I digress
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>>150383049
> Sally is a potato

There is a certain charm to a dazed-drunk Sally in emerald green spats slurring her words as she tells you shehs the prinschess but Shonic doeshnt love her any morrrre sinsh he rebooteded the universh

I would like that more than the one we have
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>>150383651
This is starting to sound like some weird brain drain fetish thing. Are you tricking these drawfags to get you off anon
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>>150381464
how do you know about the cheetos, who told you?
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>>150378394
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzfbYI7wi0I

What the fuck is this bullshit and why do you guys let it run rampant.
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>>150383864
Is that a Totino's brand chip I see Eggman munching on?

He looks like he's having fun eating them
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>>150383765
I said there was charm, so obviously I am.

But then again the only drawfaggotry I've ever induced in 5 years on 4chins is a crayon picture of a weeping Jeff Goldblum, so my hopefulness approaches the asymptotic limit of zero.
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>>150383939
A joke no one remembered to remove from the OP.
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>>150378394
>Completely copy pasted OP
>No number change
>No edition change
>No [Embed] removal
>No dumb SFM video removal
I'm just going to assume this was your first time making a new thread but you're still a dumb cunt.
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>>150381737
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>>150384410
She's all washed up
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>>150384331

BAD edition
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>>150378394
>#523
>Bad Edition
>[Embed]
>Sonic Mania's Hidden Character Trailer:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzfbYI7wi0I [Embed] [Embed]
>[Embed]
>[Embed]
>[Embed]
>[Embed]

phone poster ?

>>150383864
>My life .jpeg
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wakey wakey
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Sonic Mania is looking good
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>>150386939
I don't know what it is, but there's something off with that spindash in that webm.
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>>150386454
Slap the Sonic
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>>150387226
you're right, it's like it went to max charge instantly.
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>>150387226
I just think they made it so you can perform it faster and launch off with more speed with out revving to balance with the drop dash. I think Sonic is going to be faster in this game.
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>>150387616
I can't say that bothers me, considering how we have much more visibility in front of us now.
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>>150387616
This game looks like it's going to be so much fun to play time attack in, which is my favorite part of playing Sonic.
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>>150388097
It should have leaderboards, so that should be fun until someone hacks them
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>>150387616
The real question is, how will Tails be? Will he play like classic in 2 where he can't fly, or 3&K?
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>>150388323

what do you think
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>>150386454
I want to slap sonic
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>>150388323
He'll probably fly if him being able to fly in CD's & (I think) 2's remake mean anything.
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>>150388323
He will be able to fly since that's the only thing that makes him unique. They already got that programed in the Retro Engine when they made him playable in Sonic 1-2 & CD remastered
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>>150383651
I kinda drew something like that a while back.
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>>150388428
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>>150384410
kek
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>>150388492
executor?
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>>150389014
No?
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>>150388323
>Tails not being able to fly
well that's one way of balancing him :^)
other way is making his fly ability being almost irrelevant by making it last really short time

it's almost impossible to balance Tails in 2D game without making him useless or designing the level around him
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>>150389291
The ability to fly tends to do that to platforming games
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so found this thing and bought it for my siblings
time to ruin their lifes :^)
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>>150390686
But it's not a bad game
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>>150390686
I liked Riders though, it also had a cool opening animation
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>>150390686
fuking phone autocorrection
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>Sonic will always be the punching bag the Gaming industry.
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>>150390843
don't fuck with Ty.
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>>150390686
If you wanted to ruin them, you should have bought the OTHER Sonic game from 2006.

Sonic Riders is fine, it's the sequels that are garbage.
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>>150390962
Never played Zero G, what ruined that game>
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>>150391009

dunno, I liked it
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>>150390787
also bought SASR and ShtH

>>150390962
rivals :^)?

>>150391009
nothing people just need to git gud
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>>150391203
>ShtH
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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I never played Generations and I avoided spoilers, but how did Classic Sonic work? He's a younger version of Sonic so have S1-3 been retconned to take place when Sonic was like 12? That doesn't rub me right.
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>>150391743
>ages
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>>150391743
Generations works by fan service. Don't fucking think about it. Classic and Modern are the same age. It's just a visual difference everything from both series happened in one year. Ages are bullshit.
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>>150386939

Mania looks too much like a fan-hack to me. It's not like NSMB1 where it's obviously new but emulating the old.
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>>150392035
I rather it looks like this then the NSMB series. It looks fine. If you want something like NSMB, play Sonic 4 Ep 2.
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>>150391743
We have no clue how Classic Sonic works. Also, Generations has very minimal story.
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Why was SA's soundtrack a million times better than SA2's?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snqQlTaXsTc
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What if Sonic Mania's story explains why and how Classic Sonic shows up in Project 2017?
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>>150392197
I wouldn't say it's a 'million times better', each game has some great songs, I wouldn't say one is overall better than the other.
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>>150388297
>>150387616
>>150386939
I can't even remember the last time I was actually excited for a game.
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>>150392176

I remember hearing the plot was: It's Sonic's birthday. A younger version of himself pops up because reasons. Stuff happens.
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>>150392197
Sa2 is nothing but electric guitar it gets real boring
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>>150392840
Close enough.
They just get ripped out of their own time into some white void and have to fix it to get back to their own time.
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>>150392803
It's going to be great
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>>150392840
We don't know if Classic is younger Sonic or not.

I wrote it off and didn't care, since I assumed Generations was just a non-canon fanservice game, but with Classic returning for 2017, I expect some actual answers eventually.
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>>150393107
>We don't know if Classic is younger Sonic or not.
He's not
> I expect some actual answers eventually
Your not, and if you do they will be contradictory and retcon'd soon after
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Sonic with fur on his arms is something I didn't know I wanted but now I want in the main games. His arms being furless is weird.

>>150392197

It was their big Sonic revival and their major launch title for the Dreamcast
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>>150393358
I always thought it was furred and just a different color. Also they way they texture the blue never looked like real fur anyway so why do you care.
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>>150393202
>He's not
Of course it is, who else would he be?
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>>150392803
Same here, while I was interested in Generations I was never hyped for it, especially like this. I really can't wait for Mania to come out.
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>>150393556
He's the same age as Sonic. It's just a diffrent artstyle. Think like Steamboat Willie Micky and Modern Mickey. Sega confirmed this.
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>>150393548

He's obviously not human so why wouldn't he have fur? Blue skin makes no sense. I thought that was peach fur as well but certain games make it look like skin,
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>>150393703
It's just a simple cartoon aesthetic. In his originals promo arts he has smooth slick look. They tried texture fur before but it looks weird.
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>>150393631
>He's the same age as Sonic.
The whole point of Generations was to combine classic Sonic from the past and modern Sonic.
The villain is literally called 'Time Eater' for fuck sake.
They also show Classic trying to do a Modern move, so clearly there's a time difference between the two, not just artstyle.

>Sega confirmed this
Sauce?
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>>150393881

I know his fur looks slick, but it's still fur nevertheless. His arms are the vague part. They're probably skin.
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>>150384331
sorry no harm intended, just a matter of BAD edition
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>>150384654
>BAD edition
this guy gets it
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>>150394034
>>150394109

This is "pretending to be retarded" levels
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>>150390686
> 3+
what? i had a terrible time learning how to play it the first time
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>>150378394
This thread is 524 though
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Sally the Enchilada.
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>>150383765
No. I just find an odd appeal in making Sally a bumbling idiot
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Ayy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTKXv4GhcaY
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Sonic the Comic Online is not so bad but the colorists need to have a standard. Amy's eyes change from brown to green even within the same issue.

Do I have bad taste if I prefer Sonic Advance over Sonic 1-3? Maybe because it was my first Sonic game, maybe because it's easier, but I enjoy it more. I like the original trilogy too though, and I think it has better music,
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>>150380107
>I've lost hope completely
Too bad faggot, I get a bit more hyped each day
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>>150386939
Playable demo on console and steam when?
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>>150391743
Classic Sonic is 16.
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>>150396995
>Do I have bad taste if I prefer Sonic Advance over Sonic 1-3?
While it's a rare opinion to hear I wouldn't say it's bad exactly. I feel the originals are way better but the Advance series is generally good also. Not a fan of Advance 2 though.
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>>150396995
Advance is pretty cool before Mania a lot of people would call it the true Sonic 4 published by Sega.
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>>150384154
I'd say zero is not asymptotic in the hope function.
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>>150396995
>Do I have bad taste if I prefer Sonic Advance over Sonic 1-3?
3&K = 2 > Advance > Advance 3 > Advance 2 > 1
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>>150383651
I think you and I have very different interpretations of the word
"Potato"
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>>150398673
>cream this rabbit
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>>150398303
But Modern Sonic is listed as 15.
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>>150398673
>>150399169
Cream is PURE
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>>150399395
A weapon to surpass Super Sonic.

But seriously, until I realised how OP the insta-shield was that fight used to scare the shit out of me.
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>>150399624
Exactly. Don't put much thought into a cartoon hedgehog's "age".
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>>150391743
Classic Sonic is younger Sonic and Classic Tails is younger Tails. All the Classic counterparts of post-Adventure characters are younger versions of their modern selves. While Classic Sonic and Tails haven't had their ages confirmed, it's likely that Classic Sonic is about 7-10 and Classic Tails is somewhere around 4. Probably 6.
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>>150399624
Didn't heroes' manual make him 6
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>>150398303
>>150399624
Sonic was originally 16, but Adventure retconned it to be 15. It also retconned newer designs to the cast. 13 years later, however, and Generations confirmed that the Classic characters are younger versions of the Modern characters, retconning all the Classic characters' ages.

>>150399935
No. You're probably thinking of Charmy.
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>>150399838
No. Classic Sonic, who is 15, teamed up with Modern Sonic, who is also 15. After Modern Sonic's birthday, where he turned 15 from 15 got crashed by the Time Eater.
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Ages don't really matter.
But the ages we currently have make no sense.
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>>150400237
Yes someone actually gets it
>>150400240
Pretty much this, it's just a rolling timeline like the Simpsons or any other cartoon
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>>150400240
The only age that doesn't make sense is Tails, he hasn't been written like he's 8 since Heroes.
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>>150377921
>nicole as a cardboard box with a face drawn on it that goofy sally can 'hear'

I actually really like this idea. Especially if you can never tell if nicole the box actually CAN do shit independently of sally.
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>>150400237
>After Modern Sonic's birthday, where he turned 15 from 15
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>>150400517
You guys are acting like this is new shit, Ash turned 11 once in Pokemon in the first season. Then he went right back to being 10. The Simpsons also does this.
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>>150400665
Actually, it was never stated that he was 11. A year just passed. Cartoon characters don't age unless it's off-screen, retconned, or convenient for the plot. Mickey Mouse is still middle-aged, and Modern Sonic will forever be 15.
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>>150400665
The problem with the Simpsons is that Lisa was supposed to have been born during the 80s, is eight years old, but never experienced the 90s.

After a while it can get out of hand if you start matching events to ages.
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>Christian mentioned that they opted to include classic levels to help build a more cohesive world, in other words South Island, Westside Island and the like aren't self-contained locations in their own unique canon; the story will help link everything together, it would seem.

This could be interesting
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>>150400804
>Actually, it was never stated that he was 11. A year just passed
What do you think happens when a year passes anon. He started his journey at 10, and he aged 1 year. He was 11 that episode.
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>"Sonic's age has always been difficult to pinpoint. According to the Sonic Technical Files, he is 18, "but it's kinda hard to tell". Once Sonic Jam was released, his age appeared to be solidified at 16, but Sonic Channel had finalized it as 15. In Sonic Generations, Sonic's birthday was held, suggesting he has aged a year, but nothing official has been said."

This was from Sonic Wiki, but then again it could be outdated/false.
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>>150401391
This is why people say they don't matter. All you need to know is that he's young and rebellious and has a whole life ahead of him.
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>>150401294
So CD and 3/K levels deconfirmed, since those were on Little Planet and Angel Island respectively
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>>150401903
Pretty wrong
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>>150392128

Sonic 4 is ugly looking and doesn't play terribly well. It's no NSMB. NSMB would be Classic Sonic From Generations: The Game. Even Advance is more like a NSMB than STH4
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>>150402060
Oh dang okay
Here's hoping for a cool Flying Battery
>both Sonic 3 and S&K
Oh shit, he counts them separately
Launch base was my favorite Sonic 3 alone zone but it's too plot-linked so I guess Hydrocity could get come cool new touches. I liked that Green Hill ends underground so I'd like all of the Zones to have neat shit like that
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>>150402060
Every time I read the name "Christian" I cringe for half a second before realizing it's a different Christian.
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>>150398303

I know, but Adventure switched his and Knuckles' ages while I thought Generations decreased Sonic's even more. Apparently it ain't so.

>>150400240

They make sense, more or less, except Sonic had a birthday without aging. Plenty of fictional characters do that.
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>>150399395
>Lost the first time
>Go back but you don't have enough rings to stay in super too much time
or
>Playing S3&K as knuckles
>The fucker used that machine even when you play as sonic he just use the first one
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We got ocean mobian concept art.
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>>150404215
>That Coral
Damn son, I'd hate to see something like that go unused
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkmMCjYKvaQ
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>>150404470
The Perfect Bait.
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>>150404391
Maybe it can be a new character.

I think I remember hearing that gradients and complicated colors/patterns usually get rejected because it's hard on the artists though.
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>>150404948
>I think I remember hearing that gradients and complicated colors/patterns usually get rejected because it's hard on the artists though.
Very true. And I could see that Coral being a pain in the ass to draw multiple times per page
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>>150384410
This is hilarious and sad and adorable all at the same time. I never thought anything this good would come from that discussion last thread, but boy am I glad to be wrong.
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>>150402060
wait, so this might be a 'corrupted timeline' sort of a game? Meaning we might see oldschool sonic stages 'remixed' with bad futures CD style? And you have to race through dying zones or zones that are all fucked up patchwork versions of old ones?

I know I'm reading WAY too much into this but the fact that he's calling GHZ tame and says sega have to reveal more is making me think they're switching up the formula (boss every act? maybe each act is 2-3 zones in length with a boss at the end? like marathon zones?)

this could be shaping up to be way more interesting than the initial Gens2 it seemed like we were getting.
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>>150405448
>(boss every act? maybe each act is 2-3 zones in length with a boss at the end? like marathon zones?)
It'll probably be like 3&K: normal length zones with a miniboss at the end of act 1, and an actual boss at the end of act 2
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>>150405448
>>150405581
Green Hill Act 1 ended with a mid boss. So yes like 3&K
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>>150405052
Actually I'm pretty sure Leah or someone said that was specifically the reason Coral was a solid color, because it would be a pain otherwise. With colorists like Cassata....
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>>150405858
God that sprite animation just screams "32 Bit"
I fucking love it
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>>150406271
It looks pretty great.
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>>150398673
superior Rabbit here
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>>150399395
So how many creations has eggman made where it was capable of immobilizing Super Sonic? Could've sworn there were a few out there.
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>>150405858
I like how the rings that you lose are bigger the farther away they are from you
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>>150401294
>Christian mentioned
Just call him Taxman for fuck's sake, now every time "Christian" pops up, I'm reminded of that freakshow.
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>>150406608
Holy shit she's an actual character
How the fuck did that come from Tails Sky Patrol
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>>150406904
Second'd.
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>>150406759
They also have similar ring physics to Rush and Sonic 4, where the more you get hit the more they fly everywhere.
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>>150404215
Bottom right is the only acceptable one. Ian would be perfect on DA.
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>>150406904
>w
>>150407050
Are you guys really that autistic about that name? Do you follow everything about that freak?
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>forget to check /sthg/ for about a day or two
>miss 4-5 threads
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>>150407218
I personally don't see what's wrong with calling Taxman by his actual name just because he shares it with someone else.
Call him Taxman sometimes too.

I follow literally everything about that freak.

>>150407107
Ian doesn't draw if I recall correctly. He's a writer. He draws when he has an idea but then he gets someone else to actually make it a decent concept.

>>150407238
>Relic the Pika looks more DA than Mephilis
WELP.
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>>150406904
>now every time "Christian" pops up, I'm reminded of that freakshow.
That's on you.
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>>150407891
I still can't believe the main villain of 06 was essentially Satan. Shit was weird
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I unironically think Bigs a pretty good character, memes aside. Unique design, he doesn't try to be edgy, and he has a genuinely good heart, albeit a bit too innocent.
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>>150408110
06 was edgy as fuck, I'd honestly say it'd pass up 06 if Shadow kept his guns
and even then the game still has plenty of guns in the form of machine gun robots and Shadow's armed vehicles
I mean like shit I've seen people defend 06 implying it'd be fine with better gameplay but I feel like those people didn't pay any fucking attention to how stupid the writing and setting was.
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>>150408649
He probably is in comics, but I've yet to read and I kinda don't want to due to all the OC donuts and such
In the games he's never likable
>do I even need to say anything about him in SA1
>Heroes everybody was unlikable save for team dark &KNUCKLES
>no speaking roles since
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>>150409034
>He probably is in comics, but I've yet to read and I kinda don't want to due to all the OC donuts and such
Honestly most of the OCs, at least post reboot, are alright. And even if you don't like them, the characters they dig up from the games and revamp are more than worth reading the comic for
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>>150403020
I know what you mean.
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>>150391743
>That doesn't rub me right.

Ah, so this is why Iizuka decided to do this. There are actually people who get triggered by this.
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>>150408649
He reminds me of Zach Galifianakis. Also do you remember when SEGA got early concept of Knuckles as hawaiian echidna who was talking with jamaica accent?
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>>150410054
Not Hawaiian, but he was intended to have a Jamaican accent during the Classic era. At least in the US.
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>>150407218
>Purposely following aspergers

If people weren't fucking idiotic assholes that post about him for all to see, I'd probably be a happier person who wouldn't say anything in the first place---BUT HERE WE ARE.
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So is someone keeping up with all the art that gets posted in this general, or are we occasionally missing stuff?
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If you actively give CWC attention you're directly to blame for the shit sonic fans get

>>150410764
Most of it gets posted to the booru I'd imagine
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>>150386939
Link to the whole video?
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>>150410884
Thank you.
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>>150388297
Ahhh, so the after images are only when he has the speed shoes.
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I promise this is the last time I'll ask: where's that Sonic Comic reading guide with suggestions? I swear I had it saved once.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSI3GFuW9tM

Underrated music? I've been binge listening Sonic World's OST this past week and it's pretty goat.
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>>150411135
I know the one you're talking about. Don't have it on me though, but to be honest the advice it gives about skipping to 160 isn't a good idea, and it doesn't even mention the reboot
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>>150396576
The dude on the right has no idea what he is talking about. Like, he is almost right, but he is just spreading missinformation.
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>>150397812
At SoS :^)
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>>150411135
>>150412068
Someone made this one a while back, might be this?
I haven't read any pre-reboot myself so no idea how accurate it is.
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>>150406754
that sonic 3 machine
and sonic unleashed

and none of those makes sense
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>>150413757
I made that.
It's generalized for convenience, like saying the early Knuckles books are "mediocre" instead of shit and not pointing out the small handful of worthwhile stories like RtAI and Rob'O hangin' with General D'Coolete.
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>>150413757
I feel like it should make a note about Return to Angel Island in the "130-172" section, since that's legitimately a good story. Though with the backups to those issues being M25YL it's hard to recommend the whole issue, just the RtAI stuff
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>>150414185
There's barely any space and it

A. Is only kinda good.
B. Relies on a lot of comics the reader might have skipped.
C. Doesn't REALLY matter.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9eBLdpRDcQ
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>>150414342
>B. Relies on a lot of comics the reader might have skipped.
I thought it basically ignored the Knuckles comics. Then again I haven't read it fully in a while. It's at least worth noting because it's one of the few comparatively good things to come out of the absolute clusterfuck that was 130-159
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>>150414185
There was most likely going to be a SSSM that collected it all at once. Shame about the lawsuit.
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>>150414057
>>150414185
I have no idea why you guys like RtAI. It's not offensively bad but it's about as mediocre as the rest of the issues.
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>>150414382
LIGHTS
CAMERA
HIT IT
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>>150414581
It was pretty much one of the only semi worthwhile stories from that time period and introduced one of the best villains of the comic and actually gave a fucking personality to the only female villain in the comic up to that point. If not for anything else, it's at least worth mentioning for that
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>>150414486
It's the logical conclusion of the series of events that took place in the Knuckles series when combined with the time skip and forced to adhere to Sonic canon as well as a commentary on the series as well.

The Nazis are more blatant yet pointless, Knuckles grapples with being treated as a Messiah for no reason and having no agency as a character, the villains are inept and petty babblers who aren't effective leaders, the council of vagueness gets their shit kicked in because that's all they ever did before anyway, etc.

It works on its own, but it's best read as Karl's dissertation on why the Knuckles book was shit and his attempt to redeem Knuckles as a character.
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>>150414581
It's not terribly entertaining, but it's well constructed and written. It's entirely fucking satire, which is why I'm so glad Jon drew it.
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>>150414896
>actually gave a fucking personality to the only female villain in the comic up to that point
Yeah, sort of. The arc doesn't really show much of the "power-hungry" side but it does give her that "Freudian excuse" or whatever.
>introduced one of the best villains of the comic
Finetivus in RtAI has almost no personality and does nothing of relevance. The personality traits he did have were not carried over when he was used in stories that are actually good.
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>>150410884
>>150410764

The booru hasn't been updated in a long ass time though.

It's the ride, right? Or do we have another one?
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>>150404470
oh boy
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>people who call some Sonic games dark despite the fact their plots aren't any darker than a Disney movie
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>>150414882
I sincerely hope there's more random vocals in these tracks.

UP
DOWN
ALL AROUND
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>>150415961
What's the point?
They're not going to change their opinion anyway.
Shitting on Sonic is the cool thing to do and it gets them those sweet, sweet page clicks.
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>>150415991
I love it when Sonic tracks have random vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTl3h39abxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41Y3PKkkePk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMPnawUNz5o
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>>150416087
I think the "Sonic was never good" meme is beginning to get a lot of backlash and this is just the icing on the cake.
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>>150416520
>yfw soon it will fuck over egoraptor
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>>150416520
>is beginning to get a lot of backlash
By Sonic fans, obviously.
Not necessarily by others.
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>>150416087
it could be fun

also these guys strike me as the incredibly insecure faggot types that are only now jumping onto the bandwagon now that there are enough people on it that they feel safe but will shrivel up into small balls when they are called out on what they say
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>>150416762
I think even others are starting to see when people flat out just say "Sonic was never good and it's bad thing and anyone who liked it just wants to fuck animals" when the classics and Adventures are seen as good games and iconic moments in gaming history and Generations and Colours is loved by most, and especially shitting on Mania.

I mean, we can all respect opinions, just even a guy who hates Sonic can see when someone doesn't have a decent argument.
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>>150416470
Sonic CD sure was chocked full of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjb2asrjv-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTWnxQD5_sw
SONIC
DEAD OR ALIVE
IS M-M-MINE
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>>150416470
ione thing I've always liked is when they have chanting in the songs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mqBKEWdqGo0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eCDDNKRd9Ow
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>>150415961
meme man what are you doing
meme man no
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>>150418542
Terrible section (well, terrible game anyway) but the idea for the music building up with each character was brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUyNeep-nA0
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>>150410764
Like to think someone is keeping track of it but the booru hasn't been updated in months. Someone probably has it all saved though.
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>>150418815
It's funny that you say that because I always felt that kingdom valley had the best high speed section
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TIL that if you type, "Sonic characters" on Google one of the top 5 default results is Yoshi
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>>150410764
>>150410884
>>150419284
Archive anon here. I've been saving everything I see, and I'm trying to prep an update to release sometime this weekend once I finish collating and dupe checking all my files. Keep an eye out Saturday/Sunday.

I'm also looking into Hydrus after seeing several posts about it. Anything would be better than my shitshow of a sorting system.
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>>150420042
Still it's nice to known someone's been trying to keep track, will be looking forward to it anon.
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>>150409386
Where do I start then?
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>>150421540
Since it seems like you're more interested in the games cast, start at the reboot with Sonic 252 and Universe 55. With very few exceptions you won't have to read Universe to understand what's going on in the main book and vice versa. In general, the focus of each book is
>Main book- Sonic and the FFs going on adventures in an ongoing narrative. Most of the plot stuff is in this book
>Universe-Focus is more on side characters like Shadow. Knuckles, Blaze, Silver, Eggman's goons, etc. Almost always 4 part self contained arcs that, while they may carry over plot elements from previous Universe arcs, can still stand on their own. Usually the better of the two books
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What's the happiest you've ever been playing Sonic /sthg/?
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Question! who does the vocal fo this Sonic CD track?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZPkCgYic-c
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>>150422545
My first run of Sonic 2 that got me to Hilltop Zone
It was my longest run in my youth and the level just seemed so alien from the rest that it just stuck out in my mind as that weird level that felt like the beginning of the end, despite being about the halfway point if not earlier
I believe the run took me to Metropolis 3, and I haven't actually beaten the game from beginning to end, yet. I'll do that after beating Sonic 3 and Knuckles in one sitting
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>>150422545
Why is there a rainbow next to earth in space Maria
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>the cool ass looking place in Sonic Free Riders intro
It's a shame, it'd be fun to run around in that kind of futuristic city.
What is Studiopolis
I meant like 3D with the kinda gloomy i-Robot setting.

>>150422545
Playing Sonic 3 with my little brother and listening to that sweet ass Mega Collection comic music.
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>>150422545
Beating Metropolis Zone for the first time as a kid.
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I heard Tekno and Amy are canonically a couple. Anyone have a source or is that a myth? I heard it was said at a convention but couldn't find anything
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>>150424163
Is there any strategy to use against the Metropolis boss?
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>>150425326
They're just friends, but the staff on the comic and people online have joked about them being lesbians for years.
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Is Sally a lesbian, or a demisexual?
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>>150425604
Straight, tumblr.
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>>150425326
Tongue-in-cheek fanon.

>>150425339
Jump over it, timing your jump so you don't hit an orb. Stay in the corner when the orbs are spazzing out. Hit it when it's recovering. This is assuming you don't want to just scum it and take hits.
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>>150425604
She's so sexual she gives off innuendos to everyone on accident. Even Rotor.
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>>150422545

Reaching Death Egg Zone on S&K. My first cartridge was buggy, so at certain points, the game threw me back to the "SEGA!" title screen. Haha I remember Ive stayed all night playing then I've reached Death Egg and woke up my brother

That, or... reaching Ice Cap Zone on S3. Fricking Carnival Night Zone. It was glorious. We did it together (with my brother) ...but then we had to go to dinner, so we had to turn off the console xD
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>>150425604
Based on how little Ian wants to deal with shipfags nowadays, probably asexual.
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>>150422545
Playing sonic unleashed and smashing the boost button for the first time. I LOVE fast shit, i straight up creamed
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>>150425604
As of the reboot, Sally has no love interest, so there's no indication. Based on what Ian has said in the past regarding LGBT in the comic, unless he changes his mind, she'd probably be straight or simply hold no romantic attraction to anyone.
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>>150425857

I heard some of the writers say they were a thing, though it could have been a joke.
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>>150427473

Why is Ian such a homophobe?
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>>150427597
I wouldn't be surprised if there were some Sega mandates involved.
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>>150427473
Sally's at her best when she's not dragging 15 years of relationships as baggage I feel.
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>>150425604
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>>150409745

I'm just bugged. I alway saw classic Sonic as a teenager. He IS Sonic with just a different design. Same personality, same voice, just cuter. His Adventure design was just a retcon.

Generations changed the idea.
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>>150427597
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>>150427702

Archie is extremely LGBT friendly. I'm subscribed to the Jughead run, and he mentions how he's asexual all the time.
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>>150427597
Why are you such a faggot???
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>>150427560
>tfw have to share your waifu with an obnoxious drawfag
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>>150427835
Archie is, but is Sega/japan?
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>>150427831

Putting gay people into media isn't a commentary on real-life, it's making art resemble reality. Making queers disappear is disgusting. Especially if you're doing it to not make "commentary".

I'm not saying Ian should make Sonic gay, but his LGBT attitudes are very backwards.
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>>150427597
People actually think he is as well.
>>150427702
According to Ian's answer to why there wasn't any, he said something like "I don't think a glorified advert for a Sonic game is the correct medium to bring up issues such as this".
Which I think is fair, although if Sega asked I'm sure he'd manage to make a character who isn't just defined by his gayness.

>all those fb articles everytime Marvel has a girl superhero who's black and gay
>THIS IS IMPORTANT
>THIS IS POWERFUL

I wish I was dead so I could roll in my grave.
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>>150428095
But he's right. A Sonic comic isn't the place for that kind of stuff.
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>>150427756
Source?
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>>150428095
If there's no romance involved the it's only your own mentality that's "making them disappear." Every character could be pansexual free-lovers with nightly orgies but since the comic will never delve into romance and sexuality again you'd never know. Hell, Evan "confirmed" that Gold was either gay or woman-leaning bisexual but since there will never be any romance that will never be brought up in the comic.
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>>150428090

Probably not. They wouldn't want to damage their "brand" with homosexuals.

>>150428194

I'm guessing you don't want gays in any comics, then?
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Tumblr, please fucking leave.
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>>150428203
The Ride
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>>150428095

>it's making art resemble reality
>it's making a comic about a hedgehog and is furry pals fighting a bald guy and his army of robots resemble reality
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>>150428348
Don't put words into my mouth. Sonic is really not the place for this kind of topic though, especially since it's characters Ian doesn't even own. To add, SEGA probably has the final say on stuff like that.
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>>150428095
It's a LICENSED comic book about a blue hedgehog. That's not an avenue they really need to explore.
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>>150428095
>how to spot tumblr
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There was a gay but then he wasn't gay anymore because his writer left the comic.

Guess who was the writer.
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>>150415962
you're a fucking idiot
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>>150428348
Sega is a Japanese thing, where gays are kinda frowned upon but goddamn art is produced en masse.

I'm sure that Ian knows that putting shit into the comics that is owned by a culture not as progressive as the West it could lead to issues, as well as it being a fucking cartoon hedgehog, of which even though there is small romance between like 2 characters at most it's heavily fucking downplayed for the beating up of robots and super powers and giant aliens, so do you just want a gay character there for representation or for deep powerful plots? Or because there isn't one yet?
It's a bit of a complicated issue but I feel Ian's taking the best route, when Sega decides they're ok with stuff like that then I'm sure Ian will get on it, it's not like he hates the gays and avoids writing them in everything he does.
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>>150428501

Since we're taking out all relationships, none of the characters should have parents either.

>>150428606
>>150429051


So it's SEGA's fault.
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>>150427831
A lot of writers could learn a thing or two from this.
Especially the person writing Doctor Who
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>people still think game!Sonic lives on Mobius in 2016

Fans can be so ignorant, but the cartoons don't help either. Even Boom contains no humans besides Eggman
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>>150429139

>Since we're taking out all relationships, none of the characters should have parents either.

none of them do aside from Sally and Rotor, whose mothers are MIA for whatever reason
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I found that romance ruined most of the pre-reboot due to shitty drama, and I'd rather not have it happen again with the added social issues of LGBT, even if the drama isn't in the story it'll be there IRL.
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>>150428417
I can't seem to find anything, do you have a link?
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>>150429365
I meant that it was made by an anon during the /v/ marathon of the comic known as "The Ride". There is no source.
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>>150429139
Well, ish.

It's a bit complicated really, an amalgamation of Sega being Japanese, America's backward was views on a lot of things and Ian thinking the comic about cartoon technicolour animals probably isn't the best medium to breach this subject right now.

A serious reform is needed in both countries, and I don't think that reform is going to be brought about because Rotor likes Mobian Dick.
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>>150429139
>So it's SEGA's fault.
What's there to be at fault for? Them not having gay characters in their franchise isn't wrong or a bad thing. To think otherwise is just you trying to push an agenda.
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>>150429775

Them not having any isn't a problem in of itself. If a writer told them they had a good character that also happened to be gay but was rejected, then I would consider that bigotry.

Of course, Ian won't try to step on anyone's toes. He has a job and he has to run a mandated comic.
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>>150427560
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>>150429139
>fault
L M A O
M
A
O

gtab dumb nigga
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>>150429775
This
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I want tumblr to leave
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>>150429139
I don't think SEGA has put a stance on it.

I think it's just Ian not wanting to address that issue in a comic book that represents someone else's property and that he just sees as escapist literature.

This would be a lot different if this was solely Ian's project that he had full control over.
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>>150430251
>Sally is into straight heterosexual humans
Yeah she is
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Guess who's printed off their VIP ticket for Summer of Sonic...
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So if SEGA were to make another OVA for the blue hedgehog, what would /sthg/ want the story to be like?
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>>150430434
You?
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>>150430434
You going anon? Plan on playing Mania?
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>>150430543
>>150430636
Yes

It's gonna be great
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>>150430434
Dirty standard ticket pleb here, other than getting you in faster I guess VIP lets you meet with the guests behind closed doors or whatever?
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>>150430435
I'm not creative when it comes to stories, but I would like to see another story like it in tone. Maybe add Amy to the mix.

Also, I want to know more about the best character Old Man Owl.
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>Average Mobian is like 3.5 feet
>Humans can easily get to 6 feet

How can they even compete?
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>>150430435
Similar plot. Eggman is trying to trick Sonic into helping him, through various circumstances he has to agree. Big action middle segment against the "3rd party", turns out it was Eggman all along, set-up for the grand stage, big fight at the end, Knuckle's hat gets on fire, everyone goes home happy.
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>>150428348
More like there shouldn't be any romance in Sonic. We've seen the autism it breeds.

Amy's unrequited crush is just barely innocuous enough that I think it's fine, but if we're being honest any love beyond that (yes, even Bunnie and Antoine's) shouldn't really be there.
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>>150429997
Look man if they don't want that done with their franchise that's their choice. Fuck off.
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is big canonically blaze's retarded cousin?
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>>150430732
Yeah, I won't ask anything stupid but if /sthg/ has a burning question or two for the guests, then I'll try and pitch it to them.

>>150430804
This
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>>150430831
What about Vector's crush on Vanilla in Sonic X? Or the time Knuckles and Rouge were implied to be kissing in that one scene in that one episode of Sonic X?
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>>150429997
That's their choice to approve or disapprove any character they want. It's not bigotry, it's business.

>>150430804
Perfect hugging height
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>>150430890
Ask Naka whose fault Marble Zone was.
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>>150430880
They're from different dimensions, of course not. That's like how in Pooh's Adventures every bear is related to Pooh.
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>>150430826
>Knuckle's hat gets on fire again
I'm sold
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>>150425604
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>>150431271
I think everyone knows they added that to break up the pace of the game.
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I really want to like Colors, but it feels too easy, and the story feels a bit more juvenile than it needs to be. The 2D levels are lackluster and the 3D levels are too short. Not even the final levels or the final boss felt like a challenge.
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>>150430831
Only way I see it going through is if Sega themselves to go through with it by having it be a marketing advertisement. Otherwise we are just gonna be in a constant state of just flirting.
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shall we fast /sthg/?
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>>150430890
Ask about chao.
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Got any cool wallpapers people?
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>>150431567
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>>150431015
>Or the time Knuckles and Rouge were implied to be kissing in that one scene in that one episode of Sonic X
Different anon here, I don't recall that episode. All I ever recall is the usual teasing and the episode during the battle arc where they went in a tent and Knuckles kicked Rouge's ass.
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>>150431015
Sonic X was shit and pushed a lot of shipping and innuendo. These two facts are unrelated, but yeah.
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>>150431585
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>>150431476
>break up the pace of the game.
>In the second level
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>>150431569
As in, what /are/ they?

Pokemon?
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>>150430831
>trying to stop buntwan

anon, I have some bad news.

NEVERNEVERNEVERNEVER
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>>150431585
That room has too much Sonic.
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>>150431585
That room doesn't have enough Sonic
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>>150431793
Well, more like fourth level.

However, I'll ask. To be honest I think I'll just get a handshake and a look into Izuka's gaping maw to see how many teeth he has left. But you never know.
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>>150431585
That room looks like it would be a bitch to dust.
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>>150422545
Completing Triple Trouble for the first time as a kid. That fucking climax.
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>>150431870
Honestly, it's kind of been detrimental to both characters.
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>>150431569
It's curious that the party had quite a bit of chao stuff, but they never asked Iizuka and crew at the Q&A about them. Maybe they just wanted to not have two disappointing answers when SA3 got deconfirmed.
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>>150430435
The girl in that really shows how to pull off non-eggman humans in this setting.
It amazes me that we went from comedic saiyan girl to giving sonic a discount final fantasy character for a love interest
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>>150432009
Iizuka must love Britain, we have worse teeth than him.
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>>150431585
>those two posters
Is it bad that I've seen so much Sonic art that I can usually identify who created it? The first one is Lujii God I miss their art also think that is how you spell it while the other one is Lenmue.
>Got any cool wallpapers people?
Real life no but desktop wise yeah
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>>150432128
Speak for yourself mate.
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>>150432215
I'd forgo the bedsheets but those wall scrolls are the tightest shit.
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>>150432215
pls no bully them
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>>150431920
>>150431961
Fight
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>>150432041
howso? not arguing, just curious to your reasoning.

So far postboot we've seen them both active aside from being together. And we're getting arcs with bunnie/tails separate from antoine. I can see how preboot you can argue they never got much screentime outside of being ''the couple' but postboot seems to be developing them well so far.


I have a sad lack of buntwan images.
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>>150432215
we're all autists here anon
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>>150432215
There's no plushies in that pic, so it's not that bad yet.
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>>150432215
You think, genius?
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>>150430880
>Big
>retarded
Rude.
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>>150432456
Both pre and post reboot, Antoine basically got buried by his relationship. He's gotten the least focus of the core group since the reboot and only really had one story of any substance. Bunnie's always been given a fair bit of focus because fans like her, but the slight muffling their relationship put on her character swallowed Ant fucking whole.

I wouldn't undo it now, but both characters would probably have been better off if they weren't a couple.
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>>150433340
One of Dr Kintobor's experiments gone wrong.
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>>150433340

thingken of fast
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>>150433340
Because you touch yourself at night
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>>150430435

Speaking of the OVA, how did it fail?

It was a canceled anime. But less popular series have anime. If it was so unpopular they could have made an anime but aired it internationally.
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>>150433556
Did you not get the memo when our friendly mod regular deleted your post and gave you a warning?
>His face when more posts to delete
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>>150431585
This is what I got going right now.

That is one pretty damn autistic room
I want that room.
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>>150433519
>It was a canceled anime
What? You do know what an OVA is, right anon?
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>>150433884
>Want that room
What I want the most is those little Sonic character jars on the top shelf to the right.
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>>150431824
Aliens.
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>>150433519
Not popular enough.

>>150434439
It was supposed to lead into a full anime season if there was enough popularity.
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>>150431585
>Having poster of Sonic and Tails holding hands
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>>150431585
None of Sonic
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>>150432215
>>150431585
Wish I could have a room like that myself. One day I will.
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Shadow in Sonic the Comic Online feels so wrong without Maria existing.

>>150434712

I know it was unpopular but how did it fail when even less popular series get full anime? Plus, like I said, releasing it for international audiences could have worked. I've heard anime do that.
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>>150431585
I own nothing Sonic related aside from a little pin that says "Sonic 10th Anniversary" on it.

I don't even remember where or when I got it.
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>>150433340
Because of Mario
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>>150433340
He was created to be Sega's mascot, they made him blue to match their logo
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>>150432062
They probably ran out of time. They were literally 30 minutes behind schedule at one point and the Q&A got cut really short.
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>>150435237
>Mods delete a post
>I should repost that! :)
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>>150435216
It wasn't popular enough for Sega to justify commissioning a full season, that's all.
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>>150435404
This happened at SXSW too, IIRC. Too little time for a Q&A.
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>>150435216
>Shadow in Sonic the Comic Online feels so wrong without Maria existing
How so?
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>>150431585
A couple years ago, one of my "friends" - you know, the type of guy that acts really lonely, clingy and weird - gave this to me for my birthday because he knew I liked Sonic. I had no idea what to do with it except put it in the basement. He stares at my guests to this day.
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>>150435654
I wish they'd do something like they did with the twitter takeover and set up a Q&A to make up for them.
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>>150435726
>probably looks weird 'cause you've hung it sidewards
Way Past Cool
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>>150435470
>tfw we will never have more of the 10/10 aesthetic the OVA had
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>>150435778
Iizuka is at SoS, right? They can just do it there and make sure they have time for it.
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>>150435678
Not that anon, but Maria is the sole reason that Shadow is the way he is. The reason Shadow is even called Shadow. Removing that element, while okay in and of itself, makes the character seem removed from his previous incarnations. It's the same reason Shadow in Shattered Crystal and the Boom TV show (Rise of Lyric doesn't exist) is such a confusing character to put into Boom, considering that his original backstory would be too dark.
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>>150435915
Fuck iPhones.
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What are beta elements you are most interested in?

I am really curious about the early, early Sonic 1 before the Badniks were a thing.
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>>150436023
>The reason Shadow is even called Shadow
That literally was only created in a Japanese online comic last week, it's not in the games at all and certainly not anything a comic could've taken into account. He's called Shadow because he's dark Sonic, no other reason. And because he's dark Sonic, he can still have his character explored regardless of whether Maria exists.
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>>150436023
Booms a parallel universe and all.
Where Shadow can just be a non-caring unless it means he gets to show Sonic up kind of character.
Just means he's a black hedgehog who thinks he's much better than Sonic rather than the ultimate lifeform.
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How did Maria die?

She got shot running down the hall but she also died saving Shadow and lived long enough to give a speech but then again she died on the floor.
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>>150435726
its a neat poster.
You don't like it? Take it down.
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>>150433690
Actually that wasn't due to that post sperg. It due to an unrelated /v/ topic
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>>150436615
Couldn't even do the dinosaur
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>>150436247
I love seeing any cut features and thinking about how it would've affected the game had it been in.

There was apparently a cut level from CD taking place between Palmtree Panic and Collision Chaos that I'd love to know more about.
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>>150436615
Died from blood loss.
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>>150436615
BLAM BLAM BLAM
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>>150436615
Yes.

>Sega do continuity very well
She got shot, and dying, managed to get into the control room, eject Shad then died.
Lucky GUN soldiers a crap shot
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>>150436378
>>150436023
>Shadow's name origin
Before that recent sad comic by Sonic Channel retold it I always figured he was named after the project in SA2. You know, Project Shadow.
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>>150436732
>kek
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>>150436916
This is correct. Shadow is a military codename, nothing more. Biolizard was Shadow until Gerald got himself some alium DNA and decided to make a hedgehog instead.
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>>150436615
>>150436732
I feel like drawing this
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>>150437098
and nothing of value was lost
>Maybe Tikal
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>>150437098
I'm alright with that.
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>>150436378
>>150436023
> it's not in the games at all
Project Shadow, SA2.
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>>150437432
>Blaze, Elise, Sally princess make up game :^)
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>>150436878

The lack of blood makes her death confusing. She was shot in the hallway but ended up in the equipment room (or wherever it was) yet no blood whatsoever.
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>>150437156
Do it anon
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>>150430826
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>>150437525
>Blaze, Elise, Sally princess make up game :^)
And Sonia
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>We might have a highly possibility of more playable characters in the 2017 project.
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>>150437156
That or draw her opening the door the the room with blood marks everywhere yelling, "Shadow, holy shit".
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>>150437098
Do we really need more echidnas in this franchise?
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>>150438040
Knuckles' cool hat is survived by its child, worn by a legally distinct Robo-Knuckles in Penders' shitty fanfic comic.
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>>150438112
Sega doesn't like to talk about Sonic Underground.
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>>150437098
>muh OC echidnas
Penders pls go
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>>150438385
Considering Knuckles is the only one who's alive, I wouldn't mind it.
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>>150437432

No, Tekno should. Make it a Panel De Pon clone

>>150436878

Is there HD footage of her uncensored death scene? I thought only the blurry video existed.
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>>150437716
SA2 was rated E, so no red, human blood. Shadow was going to be T, but they turned the alien blood green and cut out Maria getting shot and got dropped to E-10+. And then SA2 rereleases got bumped up to E-10+ because someone listened to Knuckles' lyrics.
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>>150433069
>Bunnie's always been given a fair amount of focus
You fucking what. Outside of fucking Rotor she got the least amount of attention of any FF pre-reboot. Fuck's sake it took until 217-218 for her to get an actual subplot of her own (Outside of Antoine, and this had been a thing before they got married. If anything the reboot's 20 times better about giving Bunnie a semblance of a subplot) . Fucking Rotor got one before her
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>>150438414
How does Penders look at his "characters" and think that they look even remotely good? Does anyone even like his stuff?
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>>150434712
>It was supposed to lead into a full anime season if there was enough popularity.

Source on this? I've only ever heard this idea in /sthg/.
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>>150438752
But Shade's alive too.
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>>150439454
Sega doesn't like to talk about Chronicles.
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>>150438752
Knuckles throws everything off his Island.
Relic is only there because she's the least threatening thing in the comic and Tikal because you can't throw a ghost.

In the games, we already had Tikal's lot and Shade's lot.
Last of the Echidna's is always cool though.
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>>150429139
>Since we're taking out all relationships, none of the characters should have parents either.

>all relationships

Bunnie and Antoine are married. Razor has a crush on Coral.

It's just that SEGA characters can't be in dedicated relationships dumbass.
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>>150439361
what do you think?
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>>150439454
Stuck in another dimension until she shows up sometime vaguely in the future after Eggman's disappeared for a while. She'd only show up in a second Chronicles, and we're not getting that anytime soon.

The comics might be a Shade fan's hope, since SEGA is okay with Chronicles content being used for it, but a certain someone else would throw a legally impotent but implication rich tantrum.
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>>150438112
And Boobowski :^)
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>>150430434
>>150430732
How come we have quite a few people (beside these two) that are going to SoS and we even had one or two that went to Revolution, but none that went to the anniversary party?
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>>150440394
Of all the things wrong with Tiara's character, her name has to be the worst. No matter what Senn says about the Sonic Team bosses getting shown the wrong builds making it look like they were horribly behind schedule, I choose to believe Naka cancelled the game once he found out they were seriously going to name the new love interest Crowny McPolishboobs.
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>>150439361
Penders doesn't bother listening to anyone who doesn't constantly kiss his ass. It's part-and-parcel of being a narcissist.
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>>150440712
At least one anon did go. They uploaded the flash drive.
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>>150440712
Pretty sure at least one guy went to the anniversary party.

Also, England is a smaller country so it's easier to get to London. I wouldn't travel cross country if I lived in America.
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Hyper-Potions is actually a pretty good glitch hop artist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXLbo2KrEqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD0qqCQNYz8
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>>150440851
I think that we originally got the flash drive from a link posted somewhere else, and the anon that was going to get a flash drive was going to get it from a friend that did go, but that he didn't go himself.
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>>150439678
Why even delete this post
>>
Hey janitors, you missed one.
>>150430880
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>>150437156
DO IT
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>>150440698
>eggman posing
That's adorable.

It'd be cool if Classic Eggman was a good sport about losing. We got that in Boom though, so is cool.
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Jackpot!
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>>150441147
Don't know if that was the same anon, but I'm pretty sure someone was talking about being there and filling in blanks from what got cut out of the stream.
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>>150437757
>>150442026
Alright, just gotta find my tablet first.
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>>150442836
Is it bad I don't even know which game is this?
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>>150441147
I don't remember seeing that, just the link being posted after someone ask if it had been uploaded.

I swear I saw someone talking about going, but maybe I'm mistaken.
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>>150443002
Mobile game
No, it's not
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>>150437156
Draw her trying to but failing then zoom in on the soldier saying "What killed the dinosaurs? THE ICE AGE!
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>>150443002
It's Dash, I think.
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https://dockets.justia.com/docket/new-york/nysdce/7:2016cv06109/461066
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>>150443280
>Narrative Ark Entertainment LLC
Who?
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>>150443280
what?
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>>150422545
Just running around Adventure's Mystic Ruin in my PJ's after watching Sonic X on Saturday mornings.
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>>150443280
oh no
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>>150443280
>>150443391
>Narrative Ark Entertainment LLC
https://trademarks.justia.com/870/83/mammoth-87083129.html

One of the first results I've found, not sure what it means though.
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>>150422545
Probably when I re discovered Sonic a few years ago. Though I'm not sure if that was happiness... it felt weird.
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>>150443280
>>150443583
http://www.arc-ent.com/
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>>150443583
Is Scott Fulop suing or something?
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>>150443832
Wrong company.
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>>150443583
>Mammoth Mogul
Why now? He's not even in anything anymore.
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>>150443864
I'm not sure.
It could be, Ken was saying shit about trying to convince other writers.

>>150444046
Could be the whole publishing the stories and royalty thing.
As I said, first result that turned up on google, could be nothing.
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How the fuck do you actually PLAY sounds in Sonic 1's soundtest for iOS and Android? Hitting the play button just makes the numbers skip forward.
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>>150444150
I don't think any of the other people who worked on Sonic are as desperate/crazy as Penders, but who knows. I just hope Scott Shaw! doesn't get involved. Ian's already had his hero ruined, and Yardley!'s so fragile I don't think he could handle it.
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>>150439345
Try actually counting her stories: before Flynn she was #2 for most character focus in the OC Brigade outside of Sally. She just never got an arc between her stories like the others did.
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>>150443280
Well it's a good old fashioned copyright issue, and from the only details I can find, over Resident Kingpin Mammoth Mogul it seems.

I have no idea what's happening.
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>>150444438
>Yardley!'s so fragile I don't think he could handle it.
What do you mean?
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>>150444438
How could anyone have ever have Penders as a hero. He seems so shit even back then.
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>Ken is now Suing over a character Archie can't even use anymore.

Kenny's gonna kill Archie Comics at this point.
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>>150444585
What if this was the plan Mogul talked about? Getting his revenge on Sonic and just waiting it out?
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>>150444438
Ken was not Ian's hero you doof.
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>>150444906
>Mogul literally infiltrates the real world to halt his universe
>his face when he discovers all the other Sonic universes

Not gonna lie, that would be an interesting story.
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>>150445005
Have you read Other M? Ian was at the very least heavily inspired by Penders
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>>150444828
We don't even know if it's Ken.
Although, Ark Entertainment could have been set up by him.
Mammoth's an odd one to go for though.

>>150444906
MASTER PLAN
DISASTER PLAN
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>>150443583
Oh shit, I just noticed the lawsuit is against SoA as well.

Shit's gonna get fucking real. I hope this doesn't affect the fucking franchise in this special moment we were fucking having. I hope the other party ends up losing everything they have and then Sonic gets to have a bigger rat kennel.
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>>150445168
Meant to quote >>150443280
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>>150444438
Fulop worked with Penders at Floating Island Productions for a while.

So yes, he is that crazy.
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>>150444606
Guy's kind of got a shit life, from the sound of it. He's never gone into much detail online, but piecing together details it sounds like he's frequently in financial trouble, it might be related to family obligations, and just overall is constantly stressed out. Him having to drop out of drawing Eggman's Dozen halfway through the first issue wasn't a good sign either.

>>150444801
Hero's a strong word, but Ian was a fan of the Knuckles series. They were his introduction to the comics, and if you look at Other M you can see the Penders influence on his writing.
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>>150444164
Nevermind, as it turns out this is a bug in the android version that was never fixed.

Fixed for iOS though.
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>>150445168
I think that from the Mammoth thing it'll be a case of royalties over old issues being published online rather than anything that'll fuck up the new continuity. And I think Sega likes having the "Longest running game comic" around, and also THEY'RE FUCKING ATTACKING SEGA DIRECTLY THE MADMEN.
Archie's legal team a shit they might be but Sega's ruthless.
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>>150445380
I hope he's got a good backup plan, even if this doesn't amount to anything.
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>>150445168
If anything, that's a good sign. It means SEGA has to get involved. With the Archie-Penders suit, it was Archie suing Penders for infringement after he was filing copyright on things he wrote for the comics. That was the one that got settled out of court.

Penders suing SEGA/Bioware, on the other hand, got laughed out of court because Penders and his lawyer had no idea how copyright law or video game profit work.
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>>150445637
>Sega's ruthless
Is there any proof to this?
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>>150445637
God I hope you're right and this doesn't result in shit going further south
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>>150445829
Well, they destroyed Penders in court the first time. And I assume Sega's got some experience under their belt.

>>150443280
How did you even find out about this?
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>>150445380
Honestly, he should have stopped worldbuilding after the 15th character was added. We have like 20-30 plus characters now that are all useless and feel useless.
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>>150445380
At least he'll have time for LHT 2!
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>>150446531
He shouldn't have worldbuilt at all. Or added new characters. Really you could get away with maybe having the cartoon characters show up every few years or so to spice things up, but other than that have the focus be on the game cast
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>>150446782
Sincerely fuck off and never come back you false flagger.
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>>150446531
Ian's greatest praise has been in taking useless characters and doing something with them. So he's introducing useless characters now to set up for ten years from now.
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>>150446782
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>>150447002
I'm serious though. You can get away with having the game cast take the spotlight while maybe having the FFs show up once a year or so for an issue or some shit. The FFs were only needed as main characters back when the games had maybe 3-4 characters. Now that they have 20-30, if not more, you can push them to the background. Don't extinguish them forever because they have fans and are important to the comic I guess, but just have them show up maybe.. once every 8-15 issues.
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>>150446782
FUCK

OFF
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>>150446782
>if I keep posting it, it will become true
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>>150447226
1. You would need to fully reboot the comic AGAIN in order to have a change of that much pace.

2. That is not how this world was even structured.

3. While I agree that Sonic and Tails don't necessarily belong and/or stay with the FF forever or indefinitely the FF should maintain an important role in their own interests.

The last problem has yet to be solved though because Ian hasn't really been the best at characterization but you on the other hand are completely irrational and are much like the Tumblrinas that want to censor anything that hurts their feelings or triggers them.

Just because you don't like it and don't think it's good doesn't mean you're right.

Hell even my analysis is opinionated but at least I structure my arguments and opinions on facts and at the very least examples that make sense.

You just go on and on about how you're right because you say so and that everyone else is wrong like a fucking retard and then act like as if you have the higher ground when people start treating you as such.

Whether you're a false flagger or not. Stay the fuck out, you are not helping anything and all you do is shitpost.

/rant.
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This Narrative Ark thing can suck a dick, I can't find out any more information other than

>copyright infringment
>they've got the trademark "Mammoth Mogul"
>they have a base in Mamonorek something in NY
>they're suing Sega and Archie
>Lawyer is Neil Beirstein something

I am not a sleuth, I give up.
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>>150447403
We've had this discussion so many times, and 9 times out of 10 it's either started by or gets hijacked by a shitposter who keeps repeating the same two "arguments" in a never ending circle.
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>Lawsuits blow Archie so badly that all that will remain is Mega Drive
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>>150448041
>not a lot of people like the reboot
Citation needed
Sales going down is a bit of a shitter, but it's got enough to keep it going and if Sega actually tried to promote it we'd get further. Hopefully the Humble Bundle helped sales.
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>>150448318
>if Sega actually tried to promote it
Why would they do that?
It's not like they pay Archie to make the comics right?
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>>150445103
>>Mogul literally infiltrates the real world to halt his universe
>Archie real world comic
I am having bad flashbacks
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>>150378394
Next OP make sure you remove [Embed]s and Edge. I'd stick around to make next thread myself but I've got work early tomorrow.

>>150448445
Archie pays them, actually.
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>>150447986
Doubt this is the case. Sega actually have a fair amount invested into the Archie comics in regards to how much advertisement the comics give the series - I doubt anything major will come of this.
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>>150447796
>sleuth
You a sloth
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just look at him
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>>150448712
Archie pays Sega, not the other way around. It's not advertising, it's a licensed comic adaptation. Sega really couldn't give two shits as long as they still get money.

Which is why the "comics should be an ad for the game" argument is always and will always be complete bullshit. Archie comics is its own world and influence from the games is limited to making sure their personalities don't got full retard again. How accurate they are to the games beyond that is meaningless.
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This is my favorite bot. He's the best bot. I love this bot! I'm going to leave this bot here, please take good care of him.
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>>150448841
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>>150449048
I don't want him, he's mean.
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>>150449048
HUEHUE HUEHUEHUEHUE
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>>150448318
Comic sales have been down industry-wide for years, and sales of Archie series are particularly hard to track since they don't distribute through Diamond like most other publishers. So that's something to keep in mind.
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>>150438727
Those are game characters anon.
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>>150449163
>Metal was Brazil this entire time

>>150449357
>Adventure
>Chronicles
>games
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>>150449292
I just worry because Ian said he was pinching pennies when asked if we was going to buy something on one of these threads, I know he's freelance so gets paid differently and not on how many copies are sold, but I don't want the comic to go under.
I still miss the Mega Man comic.
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>>150448948
They should at least be a bit closer to the games though
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>>150449525
>shittalking Adventure
Fite me
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>>150449525
Yes, Adventure and Chronicles are games. A plotline from Adventure was acknowledged in Adventure 2. And Chronicles, although not considered canon by Sega, is still a game in and of itself.
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>>150449616
I think they're close enough as is, but that's my opinion.
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>>150449048
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>>150449816
>>150449848
I was just having a giggle, m8
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>>150449048
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>>150449867
NO! STOP IT! My bot is not for destroying!
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>>150449048
He's taken care of.
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>>150449856
I think they're not close enough.
I'm not saying it should be 1:1, but to give you an idea of what should be shot for:

90-97% of the characters in any given issue and the overall comic should be able to be recognized on site by anyone who's ONLY played the games and hasn't read the comics/watched the cartoons. You can still have characters like the FFs and Scratch/Grounder/Coconuts show up, but very sparingly Like there should be at minimum a 6 month gap between their appearences so they don't wear out their welcome.
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>>150449867
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>>150449867
>>150450102
>>150450139
>>150450212
No killing the robots!
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>>150449048
LET'S GO FOR A RUN
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I'm fixing my bot and taking him back! Clearly you all cannot be trusted with him!
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>>150449048


>>150450212
>For shardfags.jpg
rip sides
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>>150450365
Not our fault he's made of material that's about as durable as paper.
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>>150448318
>>150449292
Not to mention issues being pushed back for months didn't help.
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>>150450489
Bots are for tender love and care! If you treat a bot well, even a non-durable bot will be safe.
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>>150450163
Oh, and I guess this goes without saying, but just get rid of all the comic original characters like the Egg Bosses (Outside of the ones from the games) and such
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>>150437757
>>150438302
>>150442026
Sorry if this looks like shit.
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>>150450163
Problem with that criteria is that even most game characters wouldn't be recognizable by kids these days - and bear in mind kids are the target audience of the series, even if SEGA is smart enough to make money off of periphery demographics and longtime fans. For that to work, we'd likely have to limit it to the cast of the Pontaff games, so basically just Sonic and Tails against Eggman, with Amy and Knuckles having cameos.

It's not a terrible sentiment, but I feel it's a bit flawed in reality.
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>>150450212
Heh. ;_;
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>>150450907
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>>150450939
Honestly, considering how easy it is to play games with bigger casts like the Adventure games, as well as access to Youtube where a lot of e celebs play shit like Sonic 06, I think it' wouldn't be unreasonable to expect say, a 12 year old to recognize Shadow at the very least, or Metal Sonic. .
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>>150450918
There he is.

Too bad the guy you're falseflagging as admitted non-game characters can be used in the same post you're replying to.
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>offhandedly mention to relative I'm heading to a con on Saturday
>didn't think they'd care much for that sort of thing
>gets excited and asks where it is and if they can come along
>haven't mentioned it's purely a Sonic event
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Sonic 2017 was interesting until Classic Sonic popped up. I'm not really interested in him much, but it's.an anniversary title so whatever.

>>150444828

Archie still has their main comics to back them up.
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>>150451387
Out of curiosity, what tales would you tell with the cast of just the game characters and not one soul else.
Let's pretend for a second it's 2014 and all that had been released was Sonic Boom.

Not trying to be patronising or anything genuinely curious.

That being said
>Coconuts can be used despite being a non-canon character from the TV show and not the game
>Thunderbolt can't because reasons
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>>150451165
If we're assuming someone's enough of a Sonic fan to watch Let's Plays on YouTube of older games, then I think they'd be able to enjoy the comics even if they weren't 1:1.1 to the games. I didn't know much about the comics when I started reading it, but I got into it nevertheless, and that was in the Dark Ages.

I don't think most people are buying Sonic comics on a whim at check out in Fleet Farm that much, and even if we are counting on that, the covers pretty much always feature Sonic heavily and other game-original characters, with cartoon and comic-only characters less prominent.
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>>150451138
people like you shouldn't be allowed near machinery
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>>150444828
>Kenny's gonna kill Archie Comics at this point.
>a fucking neet killing a company on his own
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Metal Sonic is the real Sonic right?
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>>150452103
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>>150450713
>>150450471
God damn this needs to be real.
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>>150452196
You're more reasonable than you let on y'know.

I guess my argument towards that is ... let's say you want Shadow and Tails to interact, you need a situation that allows them to. And the games don't really allow that. Having new characters to make new situations can allow for Knuckles and Shadow to interact which hasn't really been seen in the games and all.
But that being said, it is possible to do, just a bit harder.

>Tower's backstory
Good point actually.
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>>150452196
Cartoon and comic characters aren't preventing any of that from happening. The fact that Tower even has a name is proof of that, as is connecting the Rogues to the Battle Bird Armada, and the current universe arc with Knuckles and Amy. Though admittedly that turned into another Knuckles and Shadow, but it's still got Amy and Rouge, which is unique.

Seems like you just don't like the characters, so you don't want to let other people enjoy them. But at least you're not malicious about it and you've proven you're not the shitposter.
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>>150453151
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>>150453151
>>150453252
>Can't get the original
>Has to settle for a robot duplicate
kek
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>>150453459
>implying the robot isn't an upgrade
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>>150450934
It's perfect.
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>>150453151
>>150453252
I've secretly shipped CD Amy and Metal Sonic for years.
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>>150453090
They're not preventing it, just shifting focus away from what's important. You can still have those things, but also have more stuff WITH the games cast.
>>150452918
That's true, and the only reason they should be allowed to stay at all is because removing them would cause more of a shitstorm than keeping them. But relegate them to appearences every few years or so
>>150452825
>But that being said, it is possible to do, just a bit harder.
And a good writer should still be able to do it despite difficulty. Wholly original characters are a crutch of sorts so you can have a character suited to whatever the plot demands. With a cast of mostly game characters, you have to get a lot more creative

Also with Shadow and Tails, perhaps Shadow visits the ARK because whatever and sees some random blueprints lying around, so he gets Tails to help build them or recreate them or some shit
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>>150450934
Fuck it, i'll take it
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>>150453565
>Cold metal shell vs Flesh and fur
>Torso is a Jet Turbine
>Has sharp claws for hands
>Has no mouth
Perfect for combat, bad for cuddles.
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>>150453857
Me too
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Can the hammer get any bigger?
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>>150453904
Making characters is a bit harder than you seem to be implying. I don't think it's accurate or fair to call original characters a "crutch." You also have to keep in mind that, since this is a licensed series, the writers have to follow SEGA's rules, which limits some of what they can use the game characters for. Also, the entire point of making characters is to have them suit whatever the plot demands; that's called writing.
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>>150454536
Yes
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>>150453932
>not cleaning his head and body until it's fresh and shiny
>not making sure all of his claws are perfectly maintained
>not watching him get excited at how nice you left him looking
>not cuddling anyway afterwards
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>>150455105
>watching him get excited
But he can't Metal Sonic has no feelings, because robots have no souls. That just makes him a machine being maintained like a car.
>>150455325
Is Bubsy still getting that new game, or did that die
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>>150454672
>wet pussy.png
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>>150455098
At least tell us the character, anon
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>>150455098
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>>150455580
robots can have feelings, even if they're not good at expressing them
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>>150455325
What does Bubsy have against Sonic?
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>>150456345
If you could believe it, his games were even worse than Sonic's ever could be.
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>>150455580
Retroism has said that they're giving Bubsy a shot, and considering that Bubsy Two-Fur was somehow greenlit, I think Bubsy could get at least 1 new game in 5 years or so.
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>>150456345
That he tried to ripoff Sonic and failed. While Sonic himself even with a bad rep still says in relevance.
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>>150456565
Bubsy 3D is the only one to meet or debatably surpass 06's shittiness, the rest were just below average
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>>150456707
>debatably surpass 06's shittiness,
No man people give 06 shit but some can still find enjoyment in that game. Who ever finds enjoyment in Busby 3d?
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>>150443280
>>150443583
The only way this will make sense is if this is Scott Fulop's company.
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>>150457087
Scott's company or Ken Penders in a mask.

What can it actually be for though, the only thing I can think is the whole royalty everytime they sell a copy with Mammoth Mogul or mention his name in an issue.

Mogul by Ian was one of my favourite characters and I'm sad to see him caught up in this.
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>>150434712
>It was supposed to lead into a full anime season if there was enough popularity.
And did you get the hidden 7th emerald in Sonic the hedgehog 1, anon? My dad works at Sega too.
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>>150456952
You're the reason I said debatably
from my viewpoint, that's merely a result of an autistic and then desperate Sonic fanbase who would try to find good in anything. An optimistic enough mindset will find the good in anything and but nobody has ever entered Bubsy 3D with an optimistic mindset, ergo more people argue that 06 is "not that bad" or even good than people have argued that Bubsy 3D is fine

I won't say which is worse because I haven't played Bubsy 3D
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>>150457761
Hell if I know, maybe royalties? Archie app still sells individual old issues.

Didn't Ken want to contact creators to get more characters? Maybe this is part of the process?
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>>150458041
No man I don't like 06 but it's way fucking better then Bubsy 3D. Granted that shouldn't be a accomplishment. Just watch gameplays of it.
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>>150458097
Didn't Ken mention a few months back about looking into more copyright claims for digital reprints? I remember him saying something like that on Twitter.
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>>150458352
nvm ulillillia took it down
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>>150458352
>This video does not exist
You what mate
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>>150454672
What if she had two hammers?
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>>150458352
>This video does not exist
Well, guess that answers that question
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>>150458921
That would be devastating
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>>150455580
>Metal Sonic has no feelings
He has feelings.
Feelings of rage and hatred mostly but they still count.
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>>150455681
It's from some random Korean tv commercial
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>>150458921
What if she had a bajillion hammers?
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>>150460690
I think at that point, the hammers would be against her, not with her.

As in, about to knock her out.
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>>150460545
How do we make a Metal Sonic sad?
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>>150450365
https://youtu.be/cV9oO0nqVGQ?t=1m2s

Dr. Weird - Eggman
Steve - Snively
Lawnmower - Mecha Sonic
Egg - Metal Sonic
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If there's one thing Sega can compete with Nintendo on its visuals
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What's this about another Archie lawsuit? What happened?

Is this going to effect the comic in any way?
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>>150461571
>What's this about another Archie lawsuit? What happened?
Apparently a copyright related lawsuit over Mammoth Mogul, I guess.

We don't know the exact details or people behind it.

>Is this going to effect the comic in any way?
No clue, SEGA probably wouldn't be happy with another lawsuit, but since the concern in the lawsuit isn't something that is currently being used in the reboot, I doubt any changes will happen in the immediate future.
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>>150460890
Hello Kitty is cute
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>>150461571
Some mystery company, maybe Scott Fulop's, filed a suit yesterday against both Archie and SoA.

And that's all we know.
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>>150393358
But anon, if his arms were BLUE they would be hard to discern when the hand is in between the body and the screen.
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>>150460897
Inform him that his hard-coded objective (re: "kill Sonic") is impossible?
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>>150450362
Can we commission mike to make a rifftrax of a movie as eggman? Like how much would that cost? And what movie should it be? I vote something with a lot of robots. Like terminator 2.

Just terminator 2 with eggman yelling all over it about how shitty it is and how he'd crush john connor. seriously. I'd pay and subscribe and whatever.

Scratch and Grounder as his companions though.
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>>150460897
Have him see Eggman love, hug, and praise another robot.
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>>150462049
>Metal's hard-coded objective is "kill Sonic"
>Metal also believes that he is the superior Sonic
>point out that Metal's objective is to therefore kill himself
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>>150461431
How much better will Project Sonic 2017 look?
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>>150462049
Turn him into a giant dragon thing and have him simultaneously acknowledge that he was made to defeat Sonic and is also the True Sonic
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>>150461907
The company also has one trademark online that got the green light for the term "Mammoth Mogul", which is the reason for Scott Folup being prime suspect.

When will this court case happen, I know nothing of America's legal system.
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>>150462174
He's probably got it in his contract that he can't voice Eggman for commercial products without Sega's permission. To get him to play Eggman for RiffTrax, you'd almost certainly have to get Sega of America's permission (re: sign a contract with them and pay them on top of what you're already paying Mike).

But I would love to see him riff the Sonic OVA. It's a shame that the rights are in legal limbo due to being tangled up with multiple legal owners (some of whom went bust without selling their rights), IIRC.
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You will not escape me this time...
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>>150462720
Is there any way he could release a track for the OVA as mike and not eggman but basically as eggman and release it for free so it's not gonna get him in shit legally, but we could 'donate' to it?
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>>150462720
Rifftrax gets around it by selling just their audio file which the audience syncs up to their own copy of the movie.
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>>150462345
Aside from increased polygon count and lighting, maybe not a lot.
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>>150462727
This is what happens when you try to erase the Mogul
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>>150462345
I have several concerns regarding that, but I think that the most important thing is the art direction rather than the realistic graphics. Given the trailer I think we can guess they'll go with something similar to Unleashed so hopefully that means they have less chance to screw it up.
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>>150463224
>>150445103
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>>150463292
feels weird playing Seaside Hill without Tails and Knux trailing behind....
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>>150463292
Do you think that trailer is a target render or just another prerendered trailer?
It had the back glow that Nintendo generally uses in their game around Sonic's model which I've noticed appearing in some of Sega's mobile games.
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>>150463538
That's a cool idea for a mod
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>>150463601
probably wouldn't take too much to add in either. After all, in Sanic Heroes, all 3 characters are just one controlled player-character, cleverly disguised as 3 individuals.
>get to it, anon
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>>150462727
Nominating this for next OP image
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>>150462931
Probably not. He could get away with his Eggman Christmas song on his SoundCloud page because it was short AND free. A track as long as the OVA might get Sega's lawyers' attention, especially with the "donation" aspect (plus he probably wouldn't want to work that long and that hard without guaranteed pay).

>>150462942
Well, yeah, but there isn't much point when their customers can't really find the movie that easily in brick-and-mortar stores (or for a decent price online), due to the movie going out of print (and seemingly staying that way for the foreseeable future). Plus, the fact that they'd sell it as a commercial product with Mike in-character as Eggman would almost certainly get Sega's attention regardless (provided they didn't contact them beforehand to work out a contract).
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>>150463548
Given the animation complexity not being completely basic I'm guessing Marza had a hand in this and if they did then I'm guessing pre prendered. It was rather detailed as well for it to be practical to be done in game.
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this is me by the way
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>>150463548
By they way, Sonic looked kind of... odd in the trailer. Does anyone think they changed his model or that they will end up doing it for the new game?
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>>150465634
His textures are higher res similar to the Olympic game models so it doesn't have that weird lighting shit on his quills like in gens, his color seems to be slightly tinted green all though that might be because of the lighting, and his body was thickened.
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>>150465634
They seem to change his model every game.
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>>150465634
I think it's just a better modelled and animated model for the trailer. It certainly looks better than the one they had for the Generations trailer.
As for in-game, I wouldn't be surprised if they changed the model there too, it's the first "Next Gen" Sonic game after all.
>Sonic Lost World
They just re-used Generations model and you know it because they're lazy.
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>>150465837
>and his body was thickened
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>tfw you will never go have coffee at Blaze's coffee shop after stuffing yourself full of pizza at Tails' bar.
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>>150466092
Not exactly in LW they slightly altered his model, his Rio model is still the best we have for now.
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Any more retard Sally images?
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>>150466335
Center mouth is creepy
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10895497
http://www.strawpoll.me/10895507
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>>150466494
It works in Boom though.
Not so much the game, but definitely the show.
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>>150466329
That's it. In Sonic's universe Blaze is a coffee shop person.
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>>150466568
The game has side mouth, but only for Sonic sometimes.
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>>150466620
And Sonic owns a fastfood franchise in Blaze's?
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>>150466718
Yes. It's a hot dog chain called Sonic's.
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>>150466698
Jesus that game looks bad
>>150466718
Not a franchise, just a lone hot dog stand in that dimension's empire city equivalent
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>>150466835
>>150466839
>a completely non-adventurous version of Blaze and Sonic meet with their dimensional counterparts

Something I'd love to see.
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>>150466494
It really is. But it works for just a few shots.
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>>150464194
Okay so, we petition sega to rerelease the OVA and get them to record bonus tracks of VAs riffing the movie. I'd love a boom cast dub of this. With eggman cheering for himself and amy not so subtly asking sonic who the fuck elise is, knuckles wondering why he's so skinny and sticks claiming to be hiding in the background of every shot.

So we gotta tell the meme man so sega will put it on kickstarter or something. I'd pledge for the eggman personalised answering machine tier.
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>>150467196
>one works in a coffe shop
>one owns a hot dog stand
>the intra-franchise softball tournament's coming up
>And she's gotta recruit THIS asshole if they want to win
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>>150468552
Wasn't this literally the premise of an episode of X
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>>150468710
the worst thing about Sonic X is that they hadn't invented Blaze yet
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>>150467908
>amy not so subtly asking sonic who the fuck elise is
>who the fuck elise is
>elise
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>>150468884
The worst thing about Sonic X is that it was an anime

Yeah I said it
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>>150468930
Not him but seriously what is the name of the human(?) damsel in distress princess in the OVA?
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>>150469151
Sara
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>>150469151
Sara
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>>150469117
If you actually think Underground or AOSTH are any better you have no taste
Can't say SATAM's relative quality because I haven't seen it but really none of the cartoon series actually seem good outside of maybe Boom, oddly
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>>150466092
>It certainly looks better than the one they had for the Generations trailer
I don't know which trailer you're talking about but Gens' Sonic was gorgeous.

>They just re-used Generations model and you know it because they're lazy.
Nigga, when the LW model was ripped someone specifically made a comparison picture by superimposing both models to see the differences.
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>>150449292
this is false, the books are obviously distributed through diamond since they are sold in comic shops. the key is that the numbers people think they see as sales are only a % of the full picture which doesnt factor in subs, newsstand, and any overseas #
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>>150469993
Raise you hands.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10901862
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What kinda name is Sonic X? The fuck does the X mean?
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>>150469861
I worded that hella wrong, I love the Gen Sonic trailer Sonic but I feel the 17 one looked incredible.

I didn't know about the second part though, fair enough, I was wrong.
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>>150470701
It's sounds more cool and extreme.
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>>150470701
Japs probably find the letter X to be exotic or something
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>>150468930
oof I biffed it. sorry, got the wrong whiny pointless human princess name.

my bad.
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>>150470906
X is probably the most exotic letter to the Japanese. They need three mora just to pronounce it.
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>>150470906
Isn't that the case too with English speaking kids?
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>>150471706
I'm sure nowadays the most extreme letters are actually numbers or emojis
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>>150471706
In the 90s, when that wasn't lame yet
Meanwhile in Japan, English words/phrases themselves are exotic, so using an uncommonly used letter that they can't pronounce worth a damn is just another step up, I'd think
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omKGDC4JaMU

captcha: 777
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>>150473727
Oh yeah. Sage's birthday is tomorrow, followed by Bump's the day after.
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>>150473942
Oh shit I can't believe I forgot about their birthdays.
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>>150474213
I almost forgot too.
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At least Penders admitted that he wasn't responsible for the lawsuit. That means that this is either Scott Fulop or a copyright troll suing.
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>>150448906
Good god he looks just like game developers back in the 70s and 80s with that mane of hair he has.

He has the blood of oldschool devs in him. The Taxman is gonna deliver
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>>150456661
>There is another timeline out there where Bubsy Mania is being made
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>>150476226
With Retroism's spotlight on Bubsy, it just might be.
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What are you gonna give them for their birthdays, /sthg/?
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>>150477249
when are they?
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Whew! Chapter 6 done: http://pastebin.com/7bnzdPdT

This is a bit longer than the others, but hopefully it is a little faster paced.

Feedback is helpful for improving. Input is nice, too!
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>>150477379
August 4th and 5th.
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>>150477249
I dunno anon, what do they like?

do they even have any characteristics at all besides appearance? I thought they were just personifications of post activity, they're actually kinda lame as general mascots
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>>150388297
Link to the video this is from?
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>>150477723
Bump is upbeat and happy and Sage is lazy, sleepy, grumpy, wants /sthg/ to die, etc. Outside that, there's not much about them.
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>>150410968
>>150478474
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM3UdBUO6FQ
Here you go friend
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>>150477249
I commissioned that Hotred art of them. Was meant for last year but it still works.
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>>150430804
Shortstack lovers would love mobians
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ROUGE THAT'S LEWD
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>>150481012
those flower textures are abysmal
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>>150481012
Why would Rouge be asking Sonic a question like that?
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>>150481262
Well, seeing as it's a port of the 360 version, that's bound to happen.
>>150481468
I think we both know why, Anon
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>>150481750
I'm certain he's tapped that at least once
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http://www.tssznews.com/2016/08/03/archie-lawsuit-documents-scott-fulop-is-plaintiff-cites-almost-1000-examples-of-alleged-copyright-infingement-in-comics/

>it’s possible that, worse case scenerio, SEGA and Archie Comics could be fined by as much as a maximum of $135,000,000, depending on if the plaintiff wins the case and how much the court would order the defendants to pay.

>We’ll be updating you more on the latest, but this…looks bad. Especially for Archie and the Sonic comics.

holy shit

Is this situation actually as bad as it sounds? I don't know enough about copyright laws and how they pertain to comic books enough to understand what's going on.
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>>150481614
>>150481750
I find them to be cute together even though it probably infuriates sonamyfags or Knuckes&Rougefags.
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>>150482285
I'd riot honestly if the Sonic the Hedgehog comics stopped few things from Sonic recently that I love.
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>>150482285
>Sonic Mania
>Project 2017
For every reaction, there is a equal and opposite reaction.
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>>150482285
>Ken Penders 2.0
This is gonna get interesting.
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>>150482285
Well shit.

>>150482534
Aww c'mon anon, not now.
We like these comics, we're happy to have discussions on how the comics are and all that, but most of us here like em, this is bad news for most of us.
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Can someone just put a bullet in Penders and be done with it already?
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>>150482890
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>>150482890
Penders didn't try and sue for 135 million dollars this is Scott's work.
That being said, it was almost certainly Penders who put him up to it.
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>>150482890
It's not him this time
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>>150482285
I know they've done a reprint of Mogul Rising within the last couple years along with still selling almost all Sonic issues digitally with their app. I can imagine that might come into play.
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>>150482285
Sega will drop Archie like a brick from orbit if the plaintiff so much as wins any of that money, won't they.
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>>150483031
See the 2nd half of >>150483014
Fulop is one of the only people who's batshit crazy enough to still be friends with PEnders, and considering the hoopla Penders constantly raises over this shit, there's no way Penders is 100% clean
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>>150482890
Eh, this isn't Penders' fault. Although he is mentioned in the court documents, the guy had no idea that Fulop was suing. He doesn't even know if he's going to be a witness or not.
>>
wait are we actually seriously entertaining the fact that this lawsuit might go somewhere?

surely they'll just stop reprinting the stories with the listed characters featured in them, and none of those have appeared postboot, right?

I hope sega fucking squashes this lawsuit and these tiny little men so we can keep the longest videogame comic of all time running. And then they end up broke and miserable and fucking shamed for trying to ruin a great thing for something as fucking petty as money those money grubbing cunts.
>>
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>>150483160
>surely they'll just stop reprinting the stories with the listed characters featured in them, and none of those have appeared postboot, right?
>I hope sega fucking squashes this lawsuit and these tiny little men so we can keep the longest videogame comic of all time running. And then they end up broke and miserable and fucking shamed for trying to ruin a great thing for something as fucking petty as money those money grubbing cunts.
This.
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Didn't penders claim he was trying to get the other pre-Ian writers to join him in suing sega months ago?
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>>150483306
Either that or trying to snatch up the rights to their characters so he could "protect them"
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>>150483342
This.
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>>150483160
I was under the impression that Sega had told Archie "If we so much as HEAR any more lawsuit bullshit, you're dropped".
And this is them hearing lawsuit bullshit.
Sooooo...
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>>150483612
that's hardly fair on archie's side that penders failed to sue and then got his friend to sue what is basically the same fucking lawsuit though.

Sega do seem super hesitant to actually step in and protect archie though which is kinda sad.
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>>150483612
I don't think it's THAT cut and dry. I definitely don't think SEGA will be happy if they are dragged to court for this, but I'm willing to think they will not just kill it completely.
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>>150483160
Archie have been making money off of Fulop's characters without giving royalties or asking permission is what they'll be saying.
Which is illegal and shit yo.

It's not a case of "Well they'll just stop it", it's a serious legal matter unfortunately if Fulop gets away with "Well I don't remember signing a thing saying this" like Penders did.
Which is why Sega need to win this somehow or otherwise Archie's fucking outta here.
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>>150483873
>if only we had a personal army that could get into fulops emails and find them discussing how they'll bullshit archie into the ground and get away with it.

>instead they might actually do some damage

fucking cunts.
>>
I think at the very least, you can say goodbye to most/any reprints of the old universe.
>>
So Fulop and Penders' grounds for suing are that they never signed any written documents, therefore they own all "new and original characters" written for the comic, such as Geoffrey St. John or Mammoth Mongoose. Are they in the right or is this another failed lawsuit?

>>150483873
There's also a possibility that Fulop, Penders, and other freelance writers never signed a work for hire contract. Archie could have forgotten to give them the contracts, and as a result, they don't own those characters.
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>>150484028
God dammit, it's going to cost me a fucking mint to get all the physical issues I'm missing now, isn't it? I burned out not too long after #160.
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>>150484053
>Mammoth Mongoose
You accidentally fused two characters together, anon.
>>
I can't wait for the 2017 IDW Sonic reboot!
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>>150484172
But anon, what if they're...

THE SAME CHARACTER!!!!!
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>>150477249
A nice, warm hug for Bump.
And a bowl of porridge for Sage.
Cold porridge
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>>150484721
Mina's not that fat.
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>>150484778
>bowl of porridge
Porridge is pretty goo-
>Cold porridge
You sick fuck
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>>150484778
The words on that cake will be the words Sage would say to you.
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>>150482285
Oh god, this is actually happening.
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>>150485137
Strap in, anon. We may be up for a bumpy ride.
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>>150485212
The Ride Never Ends
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>>150485212
Thank god Mania and 2017 got announced because otherwise if this got the comics cancelled I'd just quit Sonic
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>>150482285
>>150485137
>>150485212
>>150485276
Welp, that's it. That's the end. We had a good run, but that's how it's gonna die. Archie will get sued and probably have to stop using something again, and Sega will probably just get fed up and retract the rights or something, if the comic even survives the lawsuit itself.
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>>150485279
For every action, there is equal and opposite reaction. You got 2 good Sonic games scheduled for next year. So now Archie will lose the licence. to balance the Yin and Yang of Sonic.
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>>150482285
should I start reading these comics soon before they're fucked or should I stay off the train and avoid disappointment when it ends
>>
A big fear could be if other writers get in on this. I assume if the case has any merit, then more people joining could absolutely fuck everything up worse.
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Found this in the comments, sounds about right.

Having that lawfag anon round about now would be good though.
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>>150485425
Don't we have a Resident Lawyerfag around these parts, I'm pretty sure he was around last time Ken started talking shit.

I want to know how likely a win for Fulop is.
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>>150485647
Now, what about all those digital issues they're selling on the Archie app?
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>>150485137
>>150485212
>>150485425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yfr_Zj1iU4
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>>150485647
That's encouraging. It's looking more likely that the judges will research past history Fulop has with Archie, dig up the Penders Files, browse those a little, realise what this is about, and force some form of amicable settlement. Plus, the settlement sum Fulop is currently asking for is absurd, and since the accusations are also being levelled at Sega, I very much doubt that this will have as severe an impact as we first thought.
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>>150482285
If Archie goes down, do you think Sega will try to reach out to someone else for Sonic comics?
>>
Someone should get ready to add this to the OP for next general. And make a good edition name.
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>>150485876
Who knows?
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>>150485809
Fulop's demanding a jury though.
And if I remember correctly isn't a jury made up of people who accidentally signed a card once and forced to do it?
I don't know man, the jury part of it worries me, but I'm not American and I've never been to court in Britain so.
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>>150485891
Mogul's Revenge/Long game?
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>>150482285
Oh my...please anon keep us updated when more news come.
>>
>>150485891

MAMMOTH SIZE EDITION
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>>150485891
I'm working on it, was gonna use >>150462727 based on recommendation.
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>>150485710
>>150485876
I'm really worried that to Sega it won't matter if they win or not. Sega is weird about how they treat Sonic and I could see them retracting the license just like that so they don't have to deal with it anymore. And if that's the direction they took it we'd be lucky if they even gave the rights to someone else after that. And even then it wouldn't be the same. I doubt all of the non-game characters we have now would transfer over. Hell I'm not sure if we wouldn't just get straight game adaptations from then on.

>>150484276
Though if it did get transferred I wouldn't mind it going to IDW all that much. They seem to be pretty good with their licensed properties.
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>>150485647
>>150485710
>>150485924
Legalanon, if you're still here, we could desperately use your input before panic mode engages.
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>>150485924
You can generally expect the jury to give about as much of a shit as the judge. It all depends on how the evidence stacks in either party's favour - and, unless Fulop can bring a watertight case to the stand arguing how much he's owed in unpaid royalties, it probably won't go too far.

Of course, the reverse stands for Archie - if they can't defend themselves by producing documents to prove their side of the story, it might not go well for them either.
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>>150485950
>>150486012
>>150486016
Yes these are all good
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>>150486036
How is IDW at putting out trades? Looking like i'm going to be waiting a lot longer than 2036 for my Archives preorders.
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>>150486270
>>150486270
>>150486270
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>>150486151
I mostly just read Transformers from them, but I find that trades get to me or at least to my LCS within a reasonable amount of time (mostly anyway. There are some occasional setbacks and shit like that).
As someone who prefers trades to singles, I don't mind waiting a few months for my stories if it means I get to binge, so that's usually what I end up doing with them.
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>>150485764
I can bet you the contract was written to explicitly state what granted royalties, which most likely excluded digital. A lot of music artists got snagged by this catch I herd
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>>150486036
>And even then it wouldn't be the same
Yeah, I expect a Sally free thing.
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