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Husbandu edition.

>Call of the Beastmen
http://store.steampowered.com/app/404012/

>Patch notes

http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_2

>FAQs & General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN (embed)

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Total War Warhammer
Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

>IS CALL OF THE BEASTMEN WORTH BUYING?
The Beastmen are a cool faction but the pack is a bit overpriced for what you get. There probably won't be a price drop for some time, so if you're impatient or really like the Beastmen then go ahead, otherwise wait it out.

>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!

>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure he isn't garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)

>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to and engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation
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First for proper Norscan warfare
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Who is the strongest legendary lord at level 30, with all of the quests done?

Grimgor? Suneater? Everchosen? Karl Franz?
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>150254197
I would hope Everchosen
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>>150254291
I don't know m8, Grimgor is a pretty fuckin' nasty git.
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>>150254197
Grimgor for stand up fight, otherwise tie between kholek and Karl for battlefield presence
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>>150254197

Strongest in what way? 1v1 it's Mannfred, but as army leader it's currently the crowfather cause Devolve is fucking broken
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Finally finished the Greenskins, the beginning can be pretty hard but once you get 2 solid armies and the other ork factions are dead they have almost no chance to get a Waaahg
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>>150254474
Really, Mannfred is that strong?
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>>150254712

The combination of spirit leech and self heal along with having two abbilities to recharge winds is really strong. And being on a dragon he can kite a bit and get some leeches in before getting into melee, in which he is good, but not archeon/grimgor levels.
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>>150254712
Spirit Leech can kill any Lord in three casts.
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0-20 England
21-40 France
41-60 Roman Empire
61-80 Spain
81-99 Venice
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>>150254712
Zombie dragon and all his items are one hell of a drug.
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>>150253876
Anyone know why there aren't pvp 1v1 mini campaigns for vs mode campaign battles?

Laziness?

Have they ever existed for total war?
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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?
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>>150254849
Rome it is.
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Beastmen should be a guerrilla force, attacking your undefended small towns, very small armies, blocking trade and running away instead of trying to go for huge pitched battles, they should be able to go into a big forest and hide/disappear for a while, then come out.
They should be a constant nuisance, but not an existential threat.
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>>150254890
Because MP is not the selling point of total war. Single player is why everyone buys total war.
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>>150254197
If we're talking in a straight melee fight, Grimgor is the strongest. He beats any lord 1v1 in melee, and a level 30 Grimgor can decimate armies himself.

However, if we're talking Lords using all of their stuff to fight, Grimgor just gets kited around by the lords who can fly and or have magic. He'd lose to Azhag, even.

Of course, Grimgor is my favorite lord because nothing is more fun than getting stuck in with the boyz, and seeing him kill 500+ people himself.
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Hashut want more slaves!!!
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>>150255086
>fighting Grimgor with Dwarfs
The fucker just don't die
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>>150255318
>Grimgor
>Dyin' to puny runtz
>me mug when
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>>150254890
Budget and time constraints, CA isn't a huge studio and Total War is a niche genre, so it doesn't pull a lot of money from publishers.
no
no, multiplayer campaigns are relatively new.
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>>150255562
Dang. Cause it would be fun I think. You could have actual dynamic fights.
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>>150255247
Choas Dorfs will never be in Total War.

They want actual races.
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>>150255812
Shogun II allowed for drop in battles during a campaign, but no one used them. People didn't like losing battles they would have won against the AI.
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so what does everyone think about beastmen? is it worth the price?
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פ O q ˥ I N S
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Do i have to play as Estalia to get some decent fights against beastmen?
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>>150256676
>do I have to play as the faction that spawns next to a 6 unit beastman stack to get good fights with them

no, play dwarfs or greenskins and they will come. as dwarfs if you fight greenskins actively they will be too split to go after you and the beasts in their land, and if you play as greenskins you can 'help' the top kuntz fight the beastmen.
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Starting up my first Beastmen playthrough in the GC. How should I play it out? Use one stack to harass/raid and let the other tech up? Should I focus on any one faction first, or just rampage around the uncloven?
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>>150257202
You don't get growth or money by just sitting around, all your stacks should be making trouble. All of your buildings are done in one turn.
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>>150257202
Which lenendary lord did you start with? Khazrak or Malagor?
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>>150256294
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>>150255086
>Doing Hammer and Anvil as Orkz
>Your whole army is the Anvil
>Grimgor is the hammer
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So is Rome 2 not a shit anymore? I shelved the game back when it came out but heard its decent now.
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>>150257532
Khazrak just because I didn't want to start in the deep south.
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So.... all my units are colored this ugly ass yellow. I thought everyone was like this until I started visiting these threads and see the same units but in cool red or blue.

Why did I get ugly gay yellow for mine and what can I do to change them?
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>>150254825
his sword, the death magic leeching, master of the winds, and arcane conduit(?) all contribute to his magic, no?
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>>150255956
I'm pretty sure current head to head campaigns let you control the ai against your opponent but I presume the drop in is no longer a thing
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>>150258431
What mods are you using?
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None of the Wood Elf units seem like they would cost a whole Charlemagne, except maybe the Sisters of Twilight or the Treeman. What units won't make the cut? I'm worried they'll leave out Warhawk Riders or ignore the Eagle until High Elves come out.

Also Sisters of the Thorn seem pretty unlikely desu
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Any one else getting bored of TWW? I've finish the warriors of chaos, empire, and Beastmen campaigns on hard and gotten pretty far on the other ones, starting to feel like I've seen it all i guess. Maybe it would be more fun on higher difficulties.
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I wonder how they're going to handle Skaven.

Considering Skaven's do a lot of assassinating, plague-bringing, and political maneuvering before war, they don't really play like a traditional race.

While it sounds fun to cause huge plagues and assassinate key characters before you bring in your army, it sounds really, really unfun to play against. Sort of like the agents in Rome 2, but even stronger and more annoying.
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>>150261036
>agent spam
Do you even think before you open your mouth? How do you think people will react to a faction that just spams agents after the uproar around launch that forced CA to nerf AI agents, even though they could only do what you could do.
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>>150261197
That is the point of me asking.

Skaven ARE the 'agent spam' race in Warhammer, and considering everyone hates agent spam, I want to know how they're going to do it.

And they're going to add Skaven, there is no way they're not going to. They're one of the most important races, right up there with Humans, Elves, and Orkz.
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>>150261349
They are going to be a settlement race with a corruption mechanic like the VC.
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>AZHAG IS THE SMARTEST ORK TO EVER LIVE
>HE IS THE MOST CUNNING GENERAL AND WRECKED IMPERIAL AND DWARVEN ARMIES WITH HIS AMAZING TACTICS
>HE IS ALSO AN AMAZING SORCERER AND THROWS AROUND BOLTS OF MAGICAL ENERGY
>ALL FEAR HIS NAME

>He is actually just a shitty melee lord who can cast a spell or two before getting tired and gets no real bonuses to show his 'amazing tactical knowledge and ability'
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>>150261519
his tactics all came from his crown then when his crown disagreed with him he went insane and died talking to it in the middle of a battle.


He's a pretty shit un-orky warboss.
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>>150261669
Yeah, but this game takes place when he was at the height (or close to) of his power.

He should really have something to show his tactical ability, even if it is from the crown. Rather than, ya know, +10 relationship with the undead that means jackshit.
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>>150261519
Being the first ork to realize that feint is a valid strategy does not mean he's suddenly not an ork. Chopping is what orks do best.
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>>150261669
He was a pretty powerful warboss. He won a lot of great battles and did a lot of good work.

Sure, he eventually died from going insane, but ya know. What are you gonna do? He is an ork wearing a crows possessed by an evil necromancer.
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>>150261910
Yeah, but he is significantly worse than Grimgor at melee, and is worse than every other caster legendary. Hell, he is worse in melee than other caster legendaries.

I just wish he didn't fucking suck ass, because he is a really cool and interesting character, who they really do nothing with.
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>>150261783
Actually if you read the description of Azhag on the legendary lord selection screen it just says he is an ordinary warboss but Shamans have a vision of him on a wyvern and wth a crown.
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>turn 25 of Beastmen grand campaign and I have 3 Rank 9 Minotaurs, my Gorebull, 6 rank 9 Gors, 4 rank 9 ungor archer

This shit is crazy
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What the hell am I supposed to do as greenskins? I normally go ahead and take the entirety of death pass, but legitimately right after that I either A. go after the dwarfs, get fucked. or B. go down and continue shitting down Rotgut's throat for a couple turns before he runs away and the dwarfs start attacking and sacking Iron Pass.

What should I be doing?
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>>150265167
Build more mobs. Yeah your income will hurt bad but you gotta attack on both fronts for a bit.

That, or try confederation on red spear or crooked moon. Sometimes they do early, and Sour from crooked moon makes a nice early addition.
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>>150253876
Rollan!
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>>150265723
I had two stacks of about 15 by turn 8-10, but I was primarily using my second stack to just dissuade the dwarfs from attacking Iron Rock. Should I be actively raiding/attacking the dwarfs instead? And why the fuck do the dwarfs all confed so fucking early jesus
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>>150255919
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>>150265969
rolling
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>>150266078
If you're sure dorfs are coming after a town, set one of your stacks in ambush right in front of the city where they will come from. In my experience, AI forgets armies exist when they are invis and run right into militia+army ambushes.
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>>150265969
'ere we go
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>>150266078
Yes and no. The dwarves are the bigger threat early on for sure so build up that side a bit bigger. Push if you can. Make sure that territory one movement away from red rock is razed until you think you can hold the province.
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It wasn't fucking enough that I lost a 121turn empire campaign I was close to beating. No. Now my game crashes every so often. Fucking CA, and their fucking DLC jew tricks.

I'm fucking mad. So mad that I'm complaining about it on an anonymous image board. Fuck you guys and FUCK beastmen for all the bullshit they brought.
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So, Orion and Ariel for the Wood Elves LLs right?
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>>150266949
Absomaybe
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>>150266425
Alright, thanks for the tip!

>>150266451
So constantly keep Barag Dawazbag (starts off in Scabby Eye control) is razed once dwarfs control it?
Also is it worth it to continue pursuing after the Red Fangs early on? They normally offer me a peace treaty and some gold to go with it, should I just accept it or no?
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>>150265969
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>>150253876
OP image reminded me of Ainsley for some reason.
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>>150265969
Anythingbutdwarvesanythingbutdwarvesstuntiesplsdie
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>>150266785
>butthurt man-filth
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Female beastmen?
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>>150267784
It's BeastMEN! They're all gay and reproduce through buttsex.

I thought everyone already knew this.
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>>150267784
It's beastmen not beastcunts.
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>>150266785
Toddbringer go home
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>>150267784
Beastwomen exist but they don't fight and are sweet and nice ladies
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>>150267980
t. furry edgelord
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>>150268717
Name 1 (one) (Less than two by 1) (one more than zero) non edgy thing in Warhammer fantasy. Just one (1)
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>>150268382
>serves chaos
>sweet and nice
sure
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>>150268382
That's just a Beastman in drag bro

TRICKED!
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>>150268846
Uhh, the trees, no, the dirt! The dirt can't be edgy!
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>Close game
>Ambiental music from the global map still sounding on the background

What the fuck how do I get rid of it, I can't close my computer right now.
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>>150269026
Ogres eat dirt and ogres are edgy thus dirt is edgy too.
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>>150267150
I usually crush red fang first followed by that dwarf on the south east.

Though I haven't started an ork campaign since beast men are out so that probably changes the south dynamic a bit
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>>150269063
got to taskbar>processes and find to warhammer there.
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>>150268846
The empire isn't edgy.
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G O B L I N S
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>>150267650
Top zozzles
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>>150269157
Yeah, I searched for it again and found it. Maybe I skipped it without realizing. Thanks.
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>>150269159
>Skull iconography

Pretty edgy there anon, not gonna lie. Lots of skulls and violence in the empire.
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>>150268846
>non edgy thing in Warhammer fantasy

To be fair Edgy is 40k's shtick not so much Fantasy.
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>>150269336
Yea, you got me there. But for the most part they seems like pretty decent people, more than the other factions at least.
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>>150266129
Like you can even reach
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>>150269771
s-sh-shut up my hat makes me big! BIG!
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>>150258306
Me too and just about a week ago gave it a go. Its pretty good now
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>>150266949
Ariel doesn't usually have a combat role and hasn't had a model/rules for a few editions. Naestra/Arahan are supposedly living reflections of her essence and do the fighting in her stead. They'd be a great LL choice.
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you're in the wrong province motherfucker
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>>150268846
Lumpin Croop's Fighting Cocks
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guys please i just need a definitive answer, is it even possible for someone to mod in more than 2 player campaigns or am i just boned until CA adds it themselves (which will never happen)
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>>150268846
Papa Nurgle. He just wants to share his love among all his children.
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>>150270668
I'm really thinking of doing a empire campaign where I just mass heros like that, looks so fun. Not sure how viable it is though.
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>>150270926
I wish that instead of heroes taking up a unit slot each they would just embed with your lord and form his entourage / bodyguard unit.
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>>150271048
That would be incredibly OP given their splash damage though.
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>>150270926
I imagine it could work for Beastmen.

Mass Gorebulls with their auras and a bunch of Wild Shamans spamming Devolve and Cygors

Fucking terrifying
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>>150271582
Unfortunately you are limited to two gorebules per herd with beastmen, same with shamen. Otherwise I would.
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>>150254197
malagor is strongest starting from lv3
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>Read a comment somewhere to play through the campaign for an eye for an eye for an unlock of boris
>Some how convince myself that its to replay either campaign as him
>turns out it just unlocks him in multiplayer battle

I would have ended that campaign sooner then. oh well at least i beat it.
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Whats the dwarf strategy for sniping heroes/lords?
In the end I have to wait for them to get into thunderers firing range which is not good against wizards.
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>>150272546
Thunderers. Master engineers. Cannons. Brimstone Gyrocopters.
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>>150272701
cannons?
they just miss 80% of shots
gotta give gyros a chance tho
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>when the game actually finally tells you how to overcast spells 226 hours in
thanks for the tip fellas real helpful

also I'm a bit disappointed with Beastmen, mostly for the fact that I don't like horde mechanics, my preferred playstyle is generally turtling and that's hard to do with a bunch of evil chaotic rapist murderer destroy-all-civilization lads. Oh well, I'm sure not every single one of the overly expensive separate faction DLCs they release are going to be horde factions.

>>150272546
Unless they were particularly unsquishy or there was a better target, which there usually isn't, I tended to just aim all of my quarrelers at the enemy heroes. Don't really know how the game has changed, I haven't played it since before they actually finally tried balancing units.
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>>150272976
>also I'm a bit disappointed with Beastmen

Kind of silly to expect a turtling style out of faction famous for hit and run and mobile combat.

I mean that's entirely on you.
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>>150273241
I didn't expect anything else, I'm just disappointed that they were the first new faction to get released. There really isn't any conceivable way to make the Beastmen NOT a horde faction without doing some really weird abstract shit.
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>>150273426
Well Wood Elves are apparently next and they're pretty heavily into ranged combat.
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>>150272838
they miss 80% of shots but they have longer range so can hit when everything else misses.

Heroes are the best bet for killing characters for dwarfs desu. master engineers are the only ones that can shoot from range though.
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>>150265969
Dunno what i'm playing
Dunno what i'll get
But I know one thing

I must kill.
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>>150273602
Master Engineer is absolute trash at killing. His only niche is support if you choose to go arty-heavy army.
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I assumed at first that I was simply not using spells in the right places at the right time, but I've come to the conclusion that some spells are literally just fucking worthless trash that do virtually nothing at all except MAYBE if you had like 5 units standing on top of each other. And then, you might as well use a better spell to have a completely devastating effect instead of a mediocre one. I mean, what were they thinking with some of these? Are they supposed to be intentionally shit? I understand they have different costs and effects and AoE and stuff, but a spell which does a large explosion of magic damage against multiple targets shouldn't be so shit at blasting a massed number of weak enemy troops. I'm blowing up hordes of orks, not elite dwarf warriors.
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What is the best abilities to tech up early on Manny? Should I spend points in spirit leech early on or something else?
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I have not played a single TW game in my life.

How do I get into the series? Which game should I play first to get the basics of strategies games?
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>>150274862
Everything about viletide is a joke. The fart gas should've tipped you off.
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>>150275297
Play Shogun 2. It's a really good entry-level TW game.
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>>150275613
Thanks, I'll try to channel my inner weaboo and enjoy this game.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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What's the best kind of Empire wizard? And is Balthazar good at a high level? He's at 10 in my game and seems pretty shit
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>>150275858
Speaking of wich, what is the best kind of Chaos Wizard? The Metal one I'm surrently using seemes pretty useless.
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>>150270510
I could still them including Ariel to combat/counter Morghur in a Wood Elf specific mini campaign.
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>>150275858
>>150276067

would also like to know this
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>>150265969
roollll
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>>150275858
light wizard at least in multiplayer
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>tfw Brets siege your tier five castle
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>>150276563
>tfw you've defended maybe 5 times in your 25 hours of gameplay
>tfw none of them were castles
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Thank god there's a mod to let Orcs conquer anywhere, without Greenskins invading up through Blackfire Pass why live?
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>>150265969

Roll me in
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>>150275339
>calls to spiders, centipedes and slug-beetles and shit to swarm onto the foe in a big area
>wow sounds cool
>it's just a big fart explosion

>balthasar gelt's final transmutation spell
>turns enemies into solid gold statues
>this would have been EASY to do. fucking EASY, and I know fully well how difficult simple things in game can be, despite that, freezing models and making them turn yellow is not fucking hard.
>nope lmao there's just some white sparkly shit and they fall over dead

fuck me, inb4 they release a spell animation DLC
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>>150275858
>What's the best kind of Empire wizard? And is Balthazar good at a high level? He's at 10 in my game and seems pretty shit
Amber for the manticore summon that got me more kills then any spell ever did
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>>150265969
rolex
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>>150275858
Fire for buffs

Metal for debuffs

Beasts for AMERICA FUCK YEA and Manticores
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>>150272546
We really need Bolt Throwers for accurate artillery
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>>150265969

If I get dwarves I kill myself
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>>150270668
>I don't need an army, just 20 good men
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>tfw decisive battles with matthew settle didn't come back
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>>150276926
>and they fall over dead

We playing the same game?
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>>150265969
gits
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>>150265969
rerolling if Cunts
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>>150265969
Time to go for something that's not WoC
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>>150277652
reroll
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>>150269336
>skulls
>edgy

That's literally your own opinion
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Tips for early Malagor Beastmen grand campaign? His starting position and troops suck ass tbqh.
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>>150277319
I dunno chief, are we
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>>150277927
>make peace with Greenskins
>beeline for the border princes
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>>150265969
Are there any of these for Shogun 2?
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>>150277962
I think he's referring to the fact that Transmute's damage is rather anemic.
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>>150278104
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>>150278190
thanks, rollin
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>>150265969
ROLL FOR THE ROLL GOD
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>>150278132
How can you say that, look at those two fucking goblins, they're dead now and had no way to defend themselves, there was literally nothing for them to do except fall over and die, that's two goblin lives snuffed out right there because of Balthasar Gelt's murderous magic. Seriously though yeah the spell is pretty shit for how much it costs. It's kind of effective when you get a whole bunch of troops moving through it because they seem to ignore it, but for 16 magics it's not cost effective at all.
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>>150265969
Anything but Empire, please.
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>>150265969
dawi please
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>>150277984
>making peace
>with the Uncloven ones

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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What are mods that make the campaign map better, so there are more field battles? I want to play Chaos but they're boring as shit when half of your game is just fighting garrisons
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>>150279005

You'd probably want a reduced upkeep mod so the AI can field more armies.

That is assuming the AI even uses upkeep, sometimes I don't know.
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>>150278594

It tears Siege Towers apart if that's worth anything. Balthasar Gelt might be one of the best siege defense Lords
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what was the size of rome I battles?

<1000 men?
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>beastmen navy

noice
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Anyone else noticed much longer loadtimes after the latest patch?
I thought it's my hdd dying, but SMART tell me everything is green.
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>>150279498

WHITE WHALE
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>>150279540
HOLY GRAIL
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Is Radious' balance mod good?

Not touching the unit mod.
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>>150279780
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>>150279512
Yes its the Shogun 2 start-screen all over again.
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>>150279780

Nevermind you can't even get one without the other.

Why the fuck not? I don't want all your lore breaking units, asshole.
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>>150278190
rollan for sudoku
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>>150280109
iirc he has seperate mods on the tw forums so have a look there
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>>150279780
>Wanting armored centigor riding black orc slayers (Male) with throwing axes
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>>150280191
>with throwing axes
>not trollhammer torpedoes
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>>150279512
No, but I'm using a SSD so loading times going from 4 to probably 5 seconds isn't something I would notice
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>>150255247
>be hashut
>his chaos dwarf gets rekt by grimgor
>gets rekt by gork n mork in the end time
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>>150280289
wew lad, those are the Ungor grave guard great weapon users mounted on vargheists with trollhammer torpedoes.
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I want to live in a world where Beastmen can surpass turn 11.
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Is Sigvald a duelist? Should I bother sending him into enemy units or purely after enemy lords/heroes?
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>>150269336
The Empire is heavily inspired by Germany (Kaiser/Reichsguard etc.) All the Citynames the Landsknecht style troops etc. and finally the Totenkopf.
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>>150280735
I want to live in a world without beastmen
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>>150280735
wait for the next patch or play them yourself
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There's 90% chance that DLC No. 4 will be a Lord pack, who will be the two lords?
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>>150281869
I hope Skarsnik with Squigs and Volkmar the Grim with Flagellants.
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Playing as Beastmen currently, gotta say it's a tonne of fun. 30 turns in, had a couple of close calls when Emperor Karl Franz came to check in on me and my two hordes.
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>>150282040
CA plz
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I have one concern though, it says that Ungor are bullied by other Beastmen for having tiny horns?? Are there and heroes / lords with abilities that stop bullying of Ungors?
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>>150281096
Fetch him his mirror shield.
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>>150281096
Send him against anyting but monsters, heroes are the best targets tho
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space marine DLC when
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Can we get a discord or something for this thread. I want to share my Antiochus memes with someone
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Do you agree with the steam reviews on Call of Beastmen?

I see a lot of people saying they are reskinned units, even though they are new models and skeletons.
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>>150282251
April Fools Day 2017 unit will be a Terminator Squad unit for the Empire.
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>Ambush
>Devolve the biggest mass of my troops
>Send in the Gorebull and Minotaurs
>Gors immediately following up from behind
>Huge pack of Ungor Raiders mass firing at my cavalry so I can't even maneuver without losing half my cavalry to missile fire

I didn't stand a chance
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>>150281096
I dont understand Sigvald, he cant beat any lords 1v1 aside from mages.

Whats the point of making a LL that is supposed to be a 1v1 God that cant even beat Karl Franz?
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>>150282485
I agree that, for the price, it's a ripoff and a lazy job

But the army is decent, outside Devolve and minos
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>>150282794
Nigga, get him his armor first, he goes from shitty lord to rape-o-matic
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>>150282485
The units aren't reskinned, but it's a bit shitty to advertise it having new army mechanics when it's just a mashup of Chaos horde gameplay and Ork WAAGHs. I probably wouldn't have a problem with it if it was half the price it is now. Just hope the other DLC is better or they spruce up Beastmen with some FLC later on.
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Are there any mods unlocking the other factions in Eye for an Eye?
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>>150282485
Is it overpriced ? Yes.
Calling it "reskinned" chaos is retarded though.

Funny enough beastmen are more fun than chaos imho.
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>>150283059
chaos would be so much better if they could loot and raze in single turn
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>>150283007
something tells me those uniforms did not have his consent.
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>>150255247
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>>150258431
Turn off alliance colouring in game options.
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>the AI STILL autistically attacks your vassals as the Chaos Warriors

This shit is so fucking annoying, and it's made worse by the fact that your vassals are apparently too retarded to fucking build a real army
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>>150283059
Way more fun. You get to shit on civilized wankers right away.
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>>150261036

agents are already fucked.

just had franz get assassinated 3 times in a row by orc gobbo assassin.

gobbo was lvl 10 franz lvl 30 with anti-agent ability gear + 2 heroes in supporting army.

fuck agents.
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>>150283324
I didn't bother vassalising in the end, just wiped out all but one of them, Skaeling. Skaeling was never my friends, but when I left the North they took the mantle and created a large unified empire with two powerful stacks to bully Kislev and Nordland and Middenland and whatnot with.
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>>150282485
No, they're retarded

But CA was retarded for making a campaign with no replayability (hurr you can't play as todbringer or orcs) and expecting people to just say "surely this covers the cost"

If they had even just enabled the orcs and todbringer in that campaign it would seem a lot more fleshed out
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>>150282987
Well the Russian data leaks talked about more Beastmen down the line....I could see them add Morghor alongside Woodies.

>>150283209
Can´t wait to get home for more loot and rape.
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Lore-wise, what do Orcs think of Chaos?
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>>150283232
That must be what he's going on about. I feel like they suit Reikland pretty well, though.
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>>150283402
Well I'm about to wipe out all of Skaeling and Varg's armies (because they sent all their armies across the breadth of Norsca just to attack the Baersonlings who were too dumb to build a real army) so there's that
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>>150283414
Also the FLC stuff is stupid, since the average chucklefuck isn't going to be grateful over it. They should just package the FLC with the DLC so these idiots feel they're getting their money's worth

>>150283449
>minotaur girl doesn't cover her crotch

Lewd
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>>150283487
SPIKY MEN FUN TO FIGHT

GRIMGOR HEADBUTTED SPIKY MAN WARBOSS, DAS MEANS ORCS BETTAH 'DAN SPIKY MEN
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>>150283487
Dem spiky boyz is da best for fightin.
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Beastmen minotaurs are kinda sexy :x
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>>150283487
Dem spiky ladz is always good for a fight, and put up a better fight than dem other humie ladz
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Wtf is this shit? This dlc is fucked first the achievements now this.
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>>150283585
>>150283650
>>150283605
>spiky hivemind

>>150283663
Warhammer total war

>>150283328
The problem with chaos is that you're supposed to conquer those other tribes so you have a horde of chaos to do your bidding, but the AI is retarded and makes that way too difficult
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>>150283715

jej

Same thing happens with Orcs sometimes
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>>150283269
Painfully unfunny
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>Turn 97
>Empire Secessionists still exist
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>>150283715
it's treason then...


MOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>150265969
Kinda wanna fap
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>>150283773
>>150283881
I can't even attack them on campaign map now but they remain hostile and can attack me.
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>>150283715
>Buying the dlc
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>>150282003
I think they said Lords will be opposed to one another so that seems unlikely, although I'd like to see Flagellants as well.

>>150282147
very moe
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>>150284140
>Being poor
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>>150261910
>>150261519
Isn't Azhag the only Orc to get Lightning Strike?
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>>150280305
All factions that weren't chaos got shit all over in End Times.
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>>150283715
Lel, had that happen to me too during my final clashes with Boris
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>>150284270
Every lord can get it, Grimgor included

If you are thinking about those promo lord screens with abilities, most of them are not exclusive to the lord
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>>150284270
Everyone gets Lightning Strike
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>>150267980
>png
>1920 x 1200
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>>150268846
High Elfs
Dwarfs
Bretonnia
Orcs
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>>150269026
The soil in most places is tainted by Chaos juice, except for Sylvania, where it's so saturated with Death Wind that the dead do not rest, next
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>>150278779
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>>150284932

how the fuck did people fight in this shit when he's so exhausted he can't even defend himself
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How do you build Archaon guys ?
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So, how do you manage your economy as Beastmen in grand campaign?
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>>150285065
Endurance training and adrenaline.
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>>150285065
And people wonder why they didn't just stick everyone in armor at the time.
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>>150284932
>>150285173
Fucking slavs, man.
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>>150285173

He's a big guy
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Any way to torrent Beastdudes?
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>skaeling wants to attack baersonling
>is sitting in the sea of chaos waiting to attack
>refuses to actually do anything because as soon as they land I'm going to attack them

This is just fucking retarded
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>>150285078
Beeline for lightning strike, then, depending on your army composition, go red line or make him a melee monster

don't bother with his spells, lore of fire is meh at best, the fireball is nice for forcing your enemy to come and so are the buffs, but nothing else
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>>150261197
>uproar around launch that forced CA to nerf AI agents, even though they could only do what you could do.
People didn't complain because they couldn't stop them.

They complained because spending 70% of your game time clicking through menus to stop other agents was the fucking epitome of antifun and killed everything Total War was about.
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Do lord levels do anything other than the skills you give them?

Also, i usually focus all my points in army bonuses and the bottom blue skill tree. Should i be putting more points in to the lord itself?
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>>150285829
Burning Head regularly nets me around 200-300 kills during sieges, sometimes even during open field battles aswell. I'd have Archaon invest in cascading cloak and burning head at least, since Fireball, Burning Head and Cloak are all pretty good spells.
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Why is Warhammer so niche?
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Any tips for siege battles with Beastmen?
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>>150286308
Why is your face so niche?
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>>150286308
Games Workshop doesn't believe in "market research"

They think that mouth-to-mouth advertising is all it takes to keep new players from coming in, while actively shitting over their playerbase
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>>150285683
No

Buy it.
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>>150286308
It's not, it's the most played Tabletop wargame on the planet. It's only as niche as the maximum extent of the hobby.
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>>150286308
One sure fire way to make Warhammer more popular: Add more qt female characters.

For real, that's all it takes to make your game/movie/series to be successful in today's market, even if it's shit. I wish I was kidding.
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>>150286163
>Also, i usually focus all my points in army bonuses and the bottom blue skill tree. Should i be putting more points in to the lord itself?
Depends on the lord/faction.

If it's Grimgor/Franz/Archeon/SLAYER KING/ go full beast in their leveling and watch them solo half the army.

Wizard lords should be leveled to snipe the enemy lord and buff your own. i.e. Manfred

On Yeastmen every lord should be specced to fix that fucking glaring Morale problem your army has, and let the Gorebulls/Minotaur be your Lord killers.
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>>150285683
>>150286568
He's lying. It's very simple.

Google creamapi.
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Minotaurs are no joke, they barely even give a shit about Halberds
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>>150286643
I fail to see how this is such a "huge" suprise though.

If you are a indie game dev. and you are asking me how to make your game more sucessful ? Add some qt females (no need to overdo it) but it will help you.
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>>150286663
What about Thorgrim?
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>>150286643

The thing with Warhammer is, scantily clad, cute females don't fit with the overall theme. Both 40k and Fantasy is too extreme for them to fit in. Even the Sisters of Battle in 40k are fully armoured and rather serious, and the Eldar are fully armoured too.

Fantasy has the dark elves which are literally nude most of the time but still aren't very popular.

Other than cute vampire countesses or human countesses I don't see how you could fit cute, sexy and good female characters into the narrative. I mean I don't think any factions other than the Dark Elves have any female warriors. Sisters of Sigmar for humans maybe.
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>>150285683

The word you're looking for is STEAL
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>>150255919
They already are though. They run the Hellfire cannons
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>>150286953
HE's have Handmaidens of the Everqueen (who are the raddest archers in the game), and WE's have Sisters of the Thorn.

Other than that, it's a total sausagefest.
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>>150286987
wtf i hate pirating now
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>>150286953
sisters of sigmar sound like they would be scarred middle-aged fanatics
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>>150286643
>tfw no one else will ever claim my qt wood elf waifu

You can keep your sluts
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Does anyone have those images with predicted units for each faction?
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>>150286987
Is the Bike Cloning spell under the Lore of Metal?
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>>150287775
kek
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>>150287648
ayyyyy
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>>150286953
>I don't think any factions other than the Dark Elves have any female warriors
>Chaos Daemonettes
>Sisters of Sigmar
>Harpies
>Probably some Wood Elf or High Elf units
>Lahmians
>Queen Khalida
>Amazons (possibly)
>The Asoborn tribe(if they ever decide to do a Rise of Sigmar DLC which I have a feeling will come)

There's probably even some I missed but you get the gist of it. Warhammer isn't a TOTAL muscle rippling, sausage fest.
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What the fuck is this bullshit?

Turn 15 and Grimgor comes out of the fog of war with 3 full stacks.
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>>150286953
wood elves can have whimsical fey kawaii waifus desu
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>>150287534
You would be right just play some Mordheim city of the damned and you will seee
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>>150288082
>What the fuck is this bullshit?
Seems normal to me.
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>>150288082
ITZ TIME TO GET ORCY
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>>150288082
The two stacks aren't even full. Dorf up Dawi.
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>>150288006

>Warhammer isn't a TOTAL muscle rippling, sausage fest

It isn't a titty swinging, scantily clad, estrogen fest either lad.
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>tfw genociding snowniggers with Faith Steel and Gunpowder
post bears
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>>150288345
I'd just fought them with my own stacks, which subsequently died trying to defend Karaz
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>>150288471
thats just blizzard games
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>>150288560

I like barely clothed waifus as much as the next autist but you have to draw the line somewhere.
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>>150287648
>LUMBERFOOTS
>LUMBERFOOTS
>LUMBERFOOTS
>MAYBE ANOTHER CENTURY AND WE'LL MAKE MARKSMEN OUT OF U
Most annoying character in that game desu
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>>150288479
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>>150286987
>the bike is still there
>the seller expects you to pay anyway
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>>150289087
HORNS TOO SMALL
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>>150288082
That's one for the book
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>>150288902
GW explained the rationale behind dark elves really well, but yeah. Sometimes its too much.

>tfw no captured dark elf waifu you help nurse back from her crippling crack addiction.
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>>150289087
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My first Heroic Victory in TWW.
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>>150289383
good for you lad.
Is there any mod like the conquer anywhere mod that lets me settle the norscan coasts as humans?
Not interested in dorf holds
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>>150289364
BIG ENOUGH
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>>150289234

>missing the entire point
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>>150289473
t. Dawi
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>>150289383
>those unit sizes
I'm so sorry
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>>150289001
Sounds like you're just jealous of my superior waifu.
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>>150289246
I always post the small horn one because I know anon worked hard on it and his bear always gets overshadowed by the big horn one
Anyway we need a bear for Beastmen now.
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>>150289556
For what? It's closer to tt.
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>>150289383

poor little low pc peasant
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>>150289559
>Jealous of a tree hugging cunt
id smell her ass tho.
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>>150289595
I post it sometimes as well
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Why do Hammerers die so quickly?
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>>150289708
no shield+TWW combat is crazy fast.
I dont really like them.
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>>150289546
>playing as Vamps
>tfw trade agreements with Thorgrim's Dawi sustain my economy
>tfw the Dawi hold back the Greenskin tide
>tfw best bros
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>playing shithammer
>not praying grorious farr of samurai
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>bought Attila and never played it
>finally decide to play today
>Grand Campaign as Rome lose interest after 20 turns, battles seem way to fast and units route when sneezed on, all Roman units all look like filthy dung eating savages even elite units, I get it, it's the fall but come on there should be some uniformity
>squalor and sanitation sucking the life out of me
>no idea why I'm not enjoying it as they aren't really that big of complaints. I like the period I loved the Rome 1 Barbarian Invasion
>finally give up and try last Roman as he titular Last Roman
>seems ok
>lose interest in 10 turns
>try to give Age of Charlemange a go
>play Mercia
>lose interest in 5 turns no fucking clue what I'm doing, getting my shit stomped by cheating Ai with 2 each full doom stacks turn 3 of the game
>go back to completing my Legendary Rome 2 campaign

Aside from AOC which I feel is fucking retardedly difficult. I don't know why I'm not having fun and losing interest. Hell in having fun with Rome 2 which was fucking awful at release and is alright now. Yet I cannot enjoy Attila. I don't know why. My complaints for GC and LR are small and shouldn't kill the entire game yet they do. I find continuing a fucking chore.

Yet Rome 2 has 400 hours on record for me. Shit Warhammer has consumed my life. So why is Attila different?

Does anyone else feel like this? Just this complete disinterest in Attila?
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>>150289628
>It's closer to tt
Dunno if that's good but at least magic's op on that unit size
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>>150285236


Those chumps are wearing waaaay more armor and padding than people IRL did though. Can't have some guy getting stabbed to death in ur tournament.
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So was the Franco-Prussian war fought pretty much with line infantry lining up to fire at each other or threw skirmishers?
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>>150289812
>literally two factions
Look at this fucking weeb lmao
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>wood elves still not announced
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>>150290072
iktf
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SOON
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>>150290008
>total war: shitpacker
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>>150290101
I wanna fuck an elf and cum deep inside her pussy.
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>>150290072
>>150290101
>>150290183
Friends of Elf Wood unite!
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>>150290072
My mum works at Total War and she says the next faction to be revealed is OGRES
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>>150290414
>implying anyone cares about fucking ogres
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>>150290392
NO BEASTMEN ALLOWED!
ONLY PURE WOOD ELF MAIDENS HERE
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>send an anti-large gyro on some cygor
>stay there the whole battle
>barely make a dent
What am i doing wrong?
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>>150290575
You're expecting one gyrocopter to do anything.
As far as I can tell, their only use is bombarding crowds.
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>>150290450
OGRES A BEST
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>>150290450
>not wanting an army where everything plays like Minotaurs
why do you hate fun so much?
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>>150290730
Wow another reskin i cant wait
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>>150290783
>Wow another reskin i cant wait
wow you really hat fun
did you play any TW before where every unit was basically just a reskin?
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>>150289672
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>>150290969
>did you play any TW before where every unit was basically just a reskin?
Was i paying $20 a reskin?
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>tfw your ineptitude at tactical Dawi brings shame to the clan
Still worth it desu.
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>>150291247
No, you were paying $60 a game since Rome 1.
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>>150291247
Not, but maybe you paid less for a far worse reskin like any TW and every dlc before TWW
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>>150258270
Works the other way around too
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>>150287648
LUMBAH FEET
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>>150290407
Asur are superior.
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>>150291857
how impractical
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>>150289946

You're just pleb.

Rome 2 does feel comfy, but Attila is by far my all-time fav TW game.

Try playing as one of the eastern empires in GC, to get your shit straight.
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>>150291032

Couldn't help myself lad
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Where is the Fall of man quest?

Im on turn 120 about to destroy the last faction i need to defeat, and i still dont have the quest.
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>>150292025
Reikland
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Fuck 8 units of grail knights, and 4 Pegasus knights.

Am i fucked?
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>>150292282

Make preparations swine.

For thine justly extermination cometh forthwith.
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>Crooked Moon Faction Mod
>Black Goblins
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>>150292282

>5K upkeep
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So i finished the BC campaign but they arent in the GC. What the fuck happened
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>>150292837
they got btfo
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>>150292765
I confederated an army that had 5 cygors, and spammed chaos spawn to get a city that was miles away.
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>>150291857


>muh sacred island
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>>150290507

>Pure

Cmon now we all know of the orgies they have when the great hunt ends.
Noone tell the humans
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>>150292629
>Grail Knights suffer attrition to Chaos Corruption
triggered
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>>150293059

muh sacred island which DE have been trying to take over for the last 5000 years
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>>150292282
THE LADY WILLS IT
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They really should fix the vamps diplomatic options/events.
The only event I´ve seen is the one were you can choose to kill or forgive a infiltrator.
They start with shit diplomacy against all.

Why not bring in some other events?
"Your puppet in xxxxxx has corrupted/persuaded some of the local ruling class to join Mannfred.

Corrupt more X
+3 Vampiric corruption in xxxxxx

Demand tribute X
100 monies per turn for 5 turns or until vampiric corruption dissapeares from xxxxxx"

or something like that
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>>150293059
Go away Malekith your tendies are getting cold
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>>150292282
REMOVE BEASTMEMES
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>>150291297
Rome 1 was a better game not this dumbed down vampire diaries shit
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>>150286987

This comic is retarded.

There is nothing illegal about building a replica of a bike for personal use and that is literally all that is going on in this comic.

The fact that the replica is built through the use of a seemingly magical tool is irrelevant and if such a tool existed no one would be selling bikes anyway since infinite bikes would be available for everyone.
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>>150292282

Attack them

Do it you faggot.
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>>150293714
>The fact that the replica is built through the use of a seemingly magical tool is irrelevant and if such a tool existed no one would be selling bikes anyway since infinite bikes would be available for everyone.

Bikes only exist to be copied because there are people who pay for them. If the bike shop owners went out of business no new bikes would ever be produced. This may be okay for bikes, but would you be satisfied with having nothing but infinite copies of the exact same video game?

The comic is mocking the "it's not a lost sale" logic
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>>150293915

That's why bikes and video games can't be compared.

Everyone could ride the same bike forever, no one wants to play the same video game forever.

Fuck MSpaint comics and fuck shitty analogies.
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>>150294153

The comic isn't implying video games and bikes are a direct comparison, that's just your autism.
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>>150292904
But I mean I cant pick them to play as
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>>150292282
Hell yeah, Carroburg looks corrupted as shit. That's one of my favourite thing about TWW, how the map gets fucked up by chaos or vampires. It's a little thing but I love it.
I wish the race capitals would change, not just a model replacement but a different version of it, like how Orcs modify dwarven structures with their orky stuff. I want to see haunted Altdorf, the Karaz-a-Karak being chaos'd up, not just the spinning thing sitting outside the mountain.
I also wish the game had more cutscenes, like how Shogun had kinda unique videos when you won/lost the campaign. Even better would be stuff for defeating a faction, like Mannfred being crowned Emperor or Karl Franz smashing the shit out of Mannfred.
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>>150289628
Why is that a good thing? the TT's small sizes were merely a consequence of practicality. If it was possible for them to be size of TW battles they would have been.
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>>150294740
Dont get your hopes up
>we´ve been hurt to any times before
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holy fuck these turn times in attila why did I even launch this game again
why cant you fix this shit
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>>150294740
The Chaos corruption is so dumb with beastmen though. My beastmemes succeeded in corrupting the land so much that their forests all withered away and lava showed up?
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Is it me or is Dwarf late game units shit
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>>150295226
It's just you
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>>150295218
Beastmen hate forests though
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>>150288148
There is nothing whimsical about the wood elves though. they range between isoletionist dicks and bloodthirsty psychos. They are also the most "alien" of the elf races (and maybe the humanoid races not counting chaos)
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>>150295103
Going back to Attila is a pain after Warhammer

Made even worse knowing Attila is the best historical game.
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>>150295226
>shit
Maybe if you learned how to use them properly instead of expecting everything to be good in every situation
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>>150295365
isolationism is inherently the most yukkuri take-it-easy ideology. Wood Elves just want to be comfy.
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why the fuck can't we play brettonia, shouldn't they be able to just enable it? they're in the damn game already
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>>150295357
This might be true on the technicality that Beastmen hate everything except for alcohol, rape and pillaging, but I think of all the landscapes out there forests are the ones that they are least mad about.
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>>150295424
They seem pretty garbage compared to black orcs or chosen
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>>150295550
They ran out of funding
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All this waifu discussion and the dwarven "dwarf bride" or whatever trait got me thinking, waht do female dwarfs look like? Or the females of other races like lizardmen or beastmen. Any official art? Also if dorfs and elves are so few there must be something iffy going or dont they have time to fuck?
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>>150295390
>Attila is the best historical game.
I disagree with this statement
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>>150295897
I'm glad that you have a contrasting opinion and appreciate that you took the time to tell me so.
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>>150295103
Was atilia made by the b team? it feels so clunky compared 2 rome2 but its the best game for making carpets tho
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>>150295103
Attila runs like shit on my machine as well. Too bad since gameplay wise i think it is the best yet.
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>>150295889
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>>150295889
Lizardmen don't have women and genitals like orcs.
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>>150295961
y-you too
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>>150296176
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>>150296176

Female dwarfs have beards
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hotfix when
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>>150286308
Because Warcraft happened and dumbfucks unironically believe that Warhammer is its rip-off. You have no idea how many idiot I know who seriously expected the fantasy Total War to be from Warcraft universe.
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>>150295889

While elves are generally portrayed as a dwindling race, GW are quoted on saying that whenever there is a scenario that included the elf races, they simply made up the numbers in that battle to suit their purpose. Which is why there is some discrepancy when you see thousands upon thousands of elves dying regularly in campaigns.
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>>150296873
tell me more about those people.
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>>150296431
If they can invent a flamethrower cannon I think they can invent a razor. Also the girl (?) from the trait thumbnail doesnt appear to have a beard
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>>150296345
<3
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>>150296873
Stuff like this makes me sad. Not because they're wrong, but because I bet they're the kind of people who wont even fact check to make sure they are right.
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>>150295390
I'm afraid of going back. I expect I'll just be shouting MOVE U CUNTS at the monitor after 263 hours of fast paced TWW.
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>>150295889

From books I've read elven society seems to be extremely rigid and marriage and such is an extremely long-winded affair with negotiations between families and all sorts of shit that has to match. A lot of elves just live out their days in declining country estates without pursuing family life etc. Also low birthrate even if they are married.

Dark Elves not so much, on account of them being hedonistic orgy lovers and having large families means more pawns to use in the power game of the nobility. This is counterbalanced by their constant infighting between cities and warlords, assasination, high murder rates, death cults and the general extreme hostility of the land they live in.
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>>150296940
It happens when you grow up on Starcraft, WC 3 and WoW private realms. Most of these people know only LOTR, WC and GoT so of course they think it is the holy trinity of fantasy.
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>>150297865
Wood Elves are specifically noted as not being in decline, because they don't have any of the crippling problems of the other two.
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>>150296431
Not in Warhammer Fantasy
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>>150297974
Once again confirmed for best elves
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>>150297974
just like my english fantasy books
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>>150297934
I want to know more about their interactions with you.
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>>150296873
>play WoW with a friend on and off
>warhammer is about to release so I tell him about it
>he proceeds to rant about how games are ripping off warcraft because its so successful
>tell him that warcraft was originally meant to be a warhammer IP game but GW wouldn't give it to Blizzard
>he gets mad and doesn't speak to me for 3 days because apparently I'm lying to hate on Blizzard
kek
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how is there STILL no Ryukyu mod for shogun?
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Can someone replace the Call of the Beastmen link in the OP from the steam link to this one:

http://www.gamesdeal.com/total-war-warhammer-call-of-the-beastmen-dlc.html

Considering it's cheaper?
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>>150299268

I had a cousin who got angry at me when i told him warhammer is from 80's and therefore earlier than warcraft, nigger tried to tell me that WC 1 got made in the 70's.
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>>150295424
>no irondrake, gyrocopter or flame cannon
Nice late game
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>>150299329
Remind the thread to add it when we're around 700 postus
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>>150297865
Actually there is a phenomenon amongst High Elves when before war, men tend to fuck everything that has vagina because they apparently get all melancholic about the state of their dying race. Atleast that's was the reasoning why a dying race can casually lose thousands of men.
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>>150299563
I've had similar conversations on other topics. It's like some people don't care if what they say is true or not, they just want to "win" the argument.
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>>150297865

Another fun fact: the Human Quarter in Lothern the capital of Ulthuan, has a bigger population than the actual city.
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This battle map is freaky as. Spooky forest... also super super close up, within 5 seconds all units are fighting.
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>tfw Warhammer is going to cost like $160 by the time all its DLC is out
at least it'll never get more expensive than CK2 which i bought 100% of the DLC for, r-right?
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Is multiplayer army size large or ultra? Asking cause ultra butchers my fps.
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>>150300359
>bought 100% of the DLC
fuck me, man, why didn't you pirate it?
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>>150300359
>buying all of the dlcs
LMAO
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=735654608
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=735654608
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=735654608

BASED SLAVS
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>>150300345


>you will never be deployed with your squad of handgunners by gyrocopter to patrol the Drakwald while listening to "it ain't me" by Fontunate Son
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>>150300373
Large
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>have i5 6600k and 970gtx
>attila still lags on max settings

God they're really fucking incompetent at optimizing games aren't they
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>>150299329
In my opinion the link should always be to the default steam page, it should be each user's responsibility to decide if they want to just buy it from steam or use a third-party storefront.
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>>150299880
Must be a chill life as a human there.
But Sigmar wouldnt approve.
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>>150300413
it didn't seem like so much individually but then i looked back after two years of DLC and realised it cost like $180+
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Whats the general relationship between humans and dwarfs?

Do dwarfs actually like them and think of them as friends or do they just "tolerate" them since they dont wanna live in their Karaks? How do they handle grudges about humans, are there any except this 2 penny grudge from the game?

Whats the human attitude regarding them?
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>>150300758
what makes steam the default though? surely the priority should be to minimize spending considering the price is a big issue
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>>150299880
I wonder why no-one of their rulers hasn't made all those fancy high elf wizards and alchemists to brew up some medieval viagra to add to the water supply.
what could possibly go wrong
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>>150300964
That's how Chaos Corruption spreads
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>>150300958
It's the link CA provides and their main storefront. If we're going to link new content it should be there, not a third-party gamedeals website.
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>>150300584
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>>150301067
Sooo..
>fuck
>chaos corruption spreads
>dont fuck
>no warriors to stem the chaos tide

What a jolly world to live in
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>>150300584
>burning down portion of Drakwald with concentrated Helstorm fire while Dwarfen gyrocopters rain napalm on retereating Beastmen
>I ain't no Elector Count's son starts playing
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Beastmen horsecock mod when?
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>>150300946

Empire has two-thousand year old alliance with them and one of the holy tenents of the Sigmarite Church is to always help dwarfs, so I guess the Empire is cool with them.

Dwarfs tolerate men, but they think men are kinda untrustworhy sometimes. but still honor the alliance. Loads a dorfs live in the Empire and southern kingdoms so it's not like they hate humans.
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>>150301429

>>I ain't no Elector Count's son starts playing
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>>150301429
bretty good anon.
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>raise estalia's two undefended towns
>40 turns later they still haven't resettled them

What is wrong with the Estalian AI?
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>>150301814

Non-norscan/VC AI hates colonising ruins for some reason, some empire factions do colonize though.
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>>150299825
The vast majority of "humans" are just talking apes

>>150299880
>letting in so many humans that your capital ceases to be yours

I had no idea the high elves were based on modern Britain
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>>150254291
Archie got his shit pushed in by Grimgor so hard GW had to retcon it and give him a double dosage of plot armor just so he could win with a cheap trick
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>>150301925
Averland loves ruins.
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>>150255086
>He beats any lord 1v1 in melee
K H O L E K
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>>150301925
Wtf When i started playing Malakor the orcs would recolonise settlements the turn I razed them.
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>>150300359
60 dollars plus 8 dollars plus 19 dollars

Or 60 dollars plus 17 dollars for those people who just preordered without seeking out other websites which were selling warhammer keys for 45 dollars or whatever

The game is already more than 80 dollars if you're just buying the DLCs which actually matter plus the base game now

Assuming the expansions are ONLY 40 dollars and that CA adds in a "Wood Elves- the hunt for Morghur" campaign or "Bretonnians- muh lady" campaign to justify racking up the cost of the Wood Elves DLC to near 20 dollars and then remembering that there are 8 more races to be released after that with Skaven at the very least being another race pack

Well the entire thing is probably going to cost 200 bucks in 2 years once all the major DLC is out and they're working on Sumeria Total War or whatever historyfag project comes next
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>>150301938
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>>150300946
Humans have been friends with dwarfs for at least 5000 years, given that Tylos was a joint venture between men and dwarfs and was then overthrown by the Skaven and became Skavenblight
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>>150301938
>I had no idea the high elves were based on modern Britain
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>>150300584
thank god
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What is Warhammer's performance like compared to Attila/Rome 2? I'm running a 970gtx and i5 6600k, I want to have 10k battles at max settings on 1080p
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CA Insider here, here's the planned Wood Elves roster:

LL:
Orion
Durthu

Lords:
Glade Lord

Heroes:
Spellsinger
Shadow Dancer

Infantry:
Eternal Guard
Eternal Guard (Shields)
Glade Guard
Glade Guard (Poison attacks)
Glade Guard (Flaming attacks)
Dryads
Wardancers
Wardancers (Spears
Waywatchers

Cavalry:
Glade Riders
Wildriders of Kurnous

Monstrous Infantry:
Treekin

Flying:
Warhawk Riders
Great Eagle

Monsters
Treemen
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>be beastmen
>walk up through tilea into the southern empire burning cities all the way
>burn down some shitty empire city
>vampires come over and colonize it

Okay
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>>150301938
>I had no idea the high elves were based on modern Britain
This meme makes me sad, partly because its not that bad.
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>>150302441
that's the ruin in Eastalia right ?
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>>150303143
Yes
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>>150303212
Neat

Meaning that when skaven DLC comes out Estalia is going to last 2 turns max
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>>150302802
>look mom I posted it again!
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>>150295889
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>>150301938
Delete this post.
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>>150303582
What are you talking about? This is the first time this has been posted.
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>play as Dorfs
>Hammerers fall apart to a single goblin stack
>play as Orcs
>Hammerers are just fine being assaulted by 2 stacks of the boys and a goblin flank
reeeee
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>>150303582
I mean its not THAT unreasonable to think their roster will look something like that. Although I would like it if they included elf waifus as LLs or Heroes
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>>150303794
There an anon who comes in every week pretending to be a CA insider.
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>>150303971
>Naith the Prophetess and the Sisters of Twilight as LLs
Fund it.

If we get Araloth I'm going to be angry.
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>Quick saves saves to Quick Save
>Quick load loads Auto Save

Why?
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>>150303842
I am running a dorf campaign now and Hammerers do seem a bit too squishy for how much armor they are wearing
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>>150302187
CLIMB THE MOUNTAIN
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>>150303842
Difficulty levels change unit stats, not the enemy AI.
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>>150304493
A whopping 28 melee defence and a lower amount of hp compared to other units.
They do hit harder than any other melee infantry in the game, even harder than chosen, so that's something.
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>>150304690
But I keep battle difficulty on normal though.
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Do you love doggos?
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>>150295424
>That radious units
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>>150305052
What, where?

>>150304998
Vampire doggers are surprisingly good desu.
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>>150301429
>"Middenheim...shit; I'm still only in Middenheim... Every time I think I'm gonna wake up back in the Forest."

>"The Beastmen are very intelligent. You never know what they think. The cultists who help them, "come open the gate. We are all worshippers. Norse give them weapons. We are all Chaos." ...They hate the Norse! Maybe they hate the Empire less than the cultists or the Norse."
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>>150305191
>Vampire doggers
I would keep three units around in my late game army just to chase down fleeing units if only they could harm armored units.
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>start dwarf campaign
>turn 25 and Greenskins own every orc settlements because of confederation

Each time I start a new camapign, a broken mechanic shit in my plate. How the fuck can they confederate with all the faction without malus in less than 30 fucking turns?

Not to mention the greenskin fullstacks that appear and attack you and you're laying a fucking siege
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>>150304998
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>>150305595
>expecting the hardest campaign in the game to be easy
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>>150305664
>dwarf
>hard
What the fuck are you smoking.
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>>150305664
dwarf campaign is litteraly labeled as "Easy"
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>>150305694
Name one (1) faction with a harder campaign.
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>>150305275
Are Reikland and Wissenland the only provinces that aren't absolute shit?
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>>150305595
At least once you secure the south almost nothing can truly threaten you if you build right. In my campaigns at least Dorfs are pretty comfy once you survive the early orc rampages
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>>150305753
Chaosh.
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>>150305786
I secured the silver road in 7 turns and didn't even finish Black Crag siege that the Greenskins owned all the south

That's just bullshit. Every 5 turn, the evnt told me that greenskins confederated with X or Y faction
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>play attila
>7000 money to convert town I captured
>12 turns for building process
>public order will finally be positive again in 5 years
>disease strikes
okay lets not capture more provinces then?
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Did you guys know about this?
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>>150305785
>all the vampire didn'tdos trying to to make it out like sylvania is a paradise
Nope.
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>>150301429

>tfw you ain't no elector counts or chapter knight's son and u get sent in first to scout Athel Loren

If you even survive the ambushes you'd probably get lost and captured, put in a bamboo cage and poked with sticks
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>>150302925
>not that bad

Maybe when compared with France where 25% of babies are born to muslim families or germany where they just plain don't have children but britain has sunk surprisingly fast
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Wood elves- horde faction or settled faction with very little land?

Athel loren is big enough to comfortably have two cities, maybe even three but at the same time the wood elves don't really have any named major cities and might benefit from the forest overall having special mechanics
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>>150306347
Why do niggas keep going into Athel Loren? They're just going to be killed by angry treehuggers.
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>>150306596
One mega city that connects to other provinces by forest spreading
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>>150306596
We don't need more horde factions
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>>150306596
I think having them as a non-chaos horde army could be fun.

Basically like beastmen, always sneaking around in ambush mode to hopefully avoid diplomatic penalties.
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>>150261519
>tfw no Skarsnik
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>>150306719
You're right, TOMB KINGS WHEN?
OGRES WHEN?
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>>150306596

Make it CIV V Venice-like
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>>150306946

Ogres are hordes lad, despite being called kingdoms they are mercs
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>>150306596
They have different realms with major halls and glades, see pic related.

The different realms on the map correspond with the ones shown in the datamined leak. So I guess we'll have an Athel Loren mini-campaign.
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>>150305753
Chaos, just by armyrestrictions, upkeep and the amount of enemys you have to deal with.
Also Empire, if you have bad luck.
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>>150306696
I like that. Forest spreads, then when it's high enough in a province you can capture settlements in it. Armies are always in ambush, raiding, encamped to spread forest or using the beast paths, but aren't hordes.

I guess I just really dig visible map changes.

>Be Empire
>Chaos corruption from the North
>Vampiric corruption from the East
>Forest spread from the West
>Orcs from the South
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>>150304998
Vampire doogs are so cute. I love their skeletal face combined with the raw meat body. They actually look like they're capable of displaying affecting and other good-boy traits, unlike chaos dogs.
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>>150307140
They do, but they don't have anything resembling big cities like the dark elves or high elves

Their "capital city" is the oak of ages where orion and ariel live after all

>>150306719
Chaos Demons at the very least will be a horde faction
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>>150306696
>>150307307
Then again, it wouldn't really fit their lore.

The Wood Elves are actively working to prevent their forest from spreading by placing waystones around it (see >>150307140)

They do it for its own good. If it spread to much it would get retarded and turn daemonic, or something.
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So i was playing some grand campaign with a friend. tried to do Malagor's quest battle and as soon as it loaded me in, it kicked me out having killed my giant and putting my gorebull and malagor on 1 health. Anyone else having this problem?
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>when you're playing as brets and decide to make a trebuchet by the border of Athel Loren

It'd be a cool event.
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>>150305785
Half of Wissenland used to be the province of Solland that got wiped out by a Waaagh!
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>>150307690
Wood elves going out of the forest and actively conquering lands outside of Athel loren doesn't really make much sense either, but in a total war game the factions have to have a reason to war with each other. Just blame it on the advisor since he's a lackey for a lord of change anyway.
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>>150306153
Only custom battles or Campaign aswell?
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>>150307804
Brets will probably get an event that asks them to choose between cutting down wood in Athel Loren or not pissing off the elves.
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>>150307057
Every race has mercenaries, ogres have an entire kingdom down south.
Goldtooth was even in the process of setting up state sponsored education before the end times hit.

Just imagine that, ogre school.
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>>150308186

>Etiquette and cooking course: How to Serve Man

The Student Exhange programs would be a riot.
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>>150307528
>Chaos Demons at the very least will be a horde faction
Where would they start? Even further north?
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>That comfy feel when you ride to war with your Bretbronnians
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>>150265969
Roll
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>>150308474
In the chaos wastes with archaon.

I imagine them being like a mix between chaos warriors and undead, spread massive corruption but take attrition when in uncorrupted territory.
Their troops never flee but take damage from "daemonic instability" when low on moral.
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>>150308474

that or maybe they would have a randomized starting position based on where the winds blow strongest.
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S T A R T B A T T L E
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http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tobaro

According to lexicanum Tobaro should be part of Tilea, not Estalia
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>>150308474
>>150308724
>>150308726
Possibly place them in the chaos wastes close enough to invade the dark elves but with special teleportation mechanics which allow them to teleport to provinces with high chaos corruption and like you said having vampire mechanics regarding the corruption
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>>150308784

>Piggolo I

kek
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>>150308096

Custom

He's basically a normal lord with 50% shield from the front, slightly better charge and melee and the ability to equip a runefang

Also the unique model
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>>150307140
> So I guess we'll have an Athel Loren mini-campaign.
Yeah, but how will they work in Grand Campaign?
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Kerillian legendary lord when?
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>>150309262
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>>150309297

Horde army with a new and exciting "Elven Wrath" mechanics where they summon a AI controlled Wild Hunt army after fighting enough foes, a never before seen use of the revolutionary AI of the TWW game franchise.

Wood Elves will be purchasable from Steam at a price of 20€ or regional equilevant.
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>>150309413

will be added with skaven as a special skaven retinue member that gives the skaven army +50% replenishment.
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>>150301938
>giant financial center of the world
>"why doesn't it have the lads from avon-on-fags who are pretty good blokes until they have a ping?"
I don't know why ano.
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>>150309902
>giant financial center
>for some reason is overrun by welfare queens from pakistan and toilet cleaning slavs

There must be some brilliant British plan I'm not seeing here
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>>150309528
desu wood elves will probably have some kind of seasonal mechanics

The fact that Athel Loren will have probably one city at most will probably be solved by having the city be invisible and having non-elves take attrition and lose 90% of their movement points in the forest
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>>150310068
Offset local population declining birthrate and create a new lower class since the locals have mostly all become middle class.

That's what im seeing at least. Id love to have some other thoughts on this theory.
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>>150310282
pretty much this. Also russian oligarch and chinese party member shekels
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>>150310068
London is such a shit hole, we should really nuke it.
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>tfw your country isnt plagued by the feminism/lgbt/sjw cancer and is as white as ever
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>>150310554
>slavs
>white
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>>150310282
also white people becoming minorities in their own areas and due to rising crime and lack of solidarity with their new neighbours leaving london
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>>150310654
Implying we arent.
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>>150310554
>it is also irrelevant and will be a footnote in history, or be played solely based on puns with it's name in EU40
>>150310526
such a cheeky lad.
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>>150308910
>chaos starts with 4 doom stacks when it spawns
>beastmen added 1 stack
>daemons add 3 stacks
>daemons DLC drops and Chaos starts with 8 FUCKING STACKS

Will the chaos invasion actually be scary now?
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>>150310775
>Russia
>irrelevant
So wich country of the Butthurt Belt do you come from, comrade?
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>>150310864
Only if they're all automatically allied. If the forces of the 4 gods are each doing their own thing and attacking each other it might be okay.
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>>150310282
>import third worlders because you hate chavs and want to pay poverty wages to FAS babies and inbred muslims

Truly a brilliant plan, I can see why Japan is now importing a million Filipinos as well
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>>150310950
>white as ever
>economy based on exporting crude
>chinks and americans bullying them out of the arms market.
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>>150306076
>there are people that actually miss this shit
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>>150311074
>all the gods get their own 3 starting stacks

LET THE WORLD BURN
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>>150310775
Which is better- being part of an irrelevant country that foreigners aren't constantly trying to invade or being relevant while knowing your country will probably collapse into civil war and that given increase in lifespans it will probably be in the late 21st century when you're too old to defend yourself from the rampaging armies?
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>>150311096
>wanting empire management is bad
on the plus side, with TW:WH allowing for client states and vassals, I can actually have combined armies attacking.
If only you could ask your allied armies to follow you like the waaagh mechanic.

Also, any mod that allows humans to settle norsca? I don't want the no restrictions mod.
>>150311223
oh wow, a rhetorical question.
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Why is it that briths have to shit up the thread every time with their irrelevant politics?
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>>150311414
brits are still more relevant than you bud.
If horsham gets allahuakbar'd by the good residence of bradford, we don't get our TW:WH game.
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>Beastmen were suposed to balance the greenskins as Malagor spawns in Badlands
>AI beastmen always spawns as Khazrak in Estalia

TOMB KINGS WHEN?

I'M SICK OF FUCKING GRIMGOR AND HIS 6 FULLSATCK ARMIES+WAAGH
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UHHH
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>>150311635
>implying the Tomb kings wont just get Greened turn 13
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>>150311730
It should be that after you make a choice half your army defects and you have to fight right there in a camp style map.
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Goddamnit, I just keep running out of momentum at around turn 50 or so with Beastmen, starting with Khazrak. I just keep fucking up my economy, its much easier making insane bank early in the game as Warriors of Chaos.
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>>150310232
It's pretty much given that they will have their own campaign. That means Athel Loren map. And knowing how CA likes to re-use content, they will likely find a way to add this new map into the grand campaign.
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>>150311414
>Company that develops game is british
>Company that developed warhammer is british
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>>150312049

There is no correlation with the warhammer thread.

I'm going to talk about my life because I'm british now, that's how retarded you sound.
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>>150304129
Quick load loads to the last save, be it quick or auto.
That's why.

>>150306153
Yes, "we" knew about it. I use him for my online Empire setup because Karl is for casuals.
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>>150312263

Can't we get a toned down blood on bodies mod? Fuck this
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Kurt Helborg LL fucking when
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>>150311886
>insane bank early in the game
I don't think the beastmen work like that, if you're running a per-turn deficit of 1000s (relying on sacking income to keep you afloat) with beastmen you've done it wrong. Get upkeep reduction, and keep raiding, and you can be making a profit on your base income while maintaining more units than you might expect.
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Does anyone else get bored of total war games easily? I'd play in bursts to conquer a few territories and then I'd stop playing for like 3 months because it just drags on sometimes.
How do I fix this problem?
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>>150313406
>How do I fix this problem?
Ask a doctor to fix your ADD.
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>>150313573
>tfw have ADD but somehow can play this game for 360 hours before getting bored.
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>>150313406

I only get burned out when the AI fucks something early into the game, like Rome dying by turn 15 or Empire losing to the secessionists.
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>>150313765
>Empire losing to the secessionists.
That happens?
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>>150313406
I've found that the longest games I've played are with factions I really like aesthetically.
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>>150313406
You can't.

Wait for The Singularity™, then the AI will actually be able to put up a fight.
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>>150313765
>Empire losing to the secessionists.
this has never happened to me. I have over 287 hours played.
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>>150313948

sometimes yeah, even the dorfs sometimes die by turn 20 to the bloody spears in my games.
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>>150314305
Nah Dorfs dying is normal for me. I dont think ive ever had a campaign in which they where not dead before the chaos Invasion.
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Just got Attila, and seems like my computer cannot maintain 60+ fps unless I turn down the settings to about medium or low.
The settings only displays that the game is using 3GB Vram when my card is 6GB Vram, is there a way to let it use my card fully?
Or is that not a problem?
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OFFICIAL /twg/ CENSUS TIME

Which of the following countries/continents do you currently reside in?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10888955
http://www.strawpoll.me/10888955
http://www.strawpoll.me/10888955

Which of the following countries/continents do you currently reside in?

OFFICIAL /twg/ CENSUS TIME
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>>150314993

>no Israel

OY VEY!
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>>150315086
are there really israelis on here?
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>>150314993
Does Austria count as western or eastern europe?
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>>150315362
no-
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>>150315421
Western
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>>150314993
>Which of the following countries/continents do you currently reside in?
Why does this matter? What relevance does this have with fucking VIDEO GAMES?
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>>150315639
>Why does this matter? What relevance does this have with fucking VIDEO GAMES?
Everything
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>>150315639
i have an autistic obsession with collecting data
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>>150314782
Get nvidia gforce experience and let it optimize the game settings for you.
Should work like a charm.
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>>150315995
dont do this
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>>150315639
>not wanting to know what kind of qts are in this bread
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>>150287534
>>150288158
Tried to make a squad of sexy battle sisters. Ended up with 5 angry lunch ladies.
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>>150315790
Do it better than a fucking strawpoll, a few years ago an anon did a proper survey.
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>>150315995
>>150316049
Great, thanks for the (You)s but I'm still looking for answers/solutions to making these games playable...
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>>150316319
1080
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>>150316374
ebig
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>>150316319
>guy suggests a valid fix
>thanks for the (You)s
Are you retarded?
Oh wait, nvm, ofcourse you are, you cant even find "Unlimited Video Memory" checkbox in game settings.
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How badly does the AI cheat in the Better AI mod for TW:W?

I want a challenging mid game but I don't want to have to grind through endless stacks or have the entire world war dec me by turn 30.
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>>150314782
>>150316319
>1060

I'm sorry for your loss
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>>150317192
What's wrong with it?
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>>150316089
Warhammer does have the best PARTY HARD shots.
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Hey, is EB 2 any good?
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>>150312823
Thats what I've sort of been experimenting with, but I find it hard to stay afloat for long without having the AI disrupt my raiding. I generally try and find profitable raiding locations, then I bait out all the local AI armies, kill them, then get to raiding. However, it feels like I'm not making enough dough for things to really go around. It feels like Im just stalling for too long when I should be out murdering man-filth yknow? Also, what skills are best to invest in for Khazrak and Beastlords in general?
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>>150318029
I enjoy it.
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>>150317729
it really does, I only got it a few days ago and I've already taken a huge amount of screenshots
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>>150258270
I lol'd
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>>150318080
>profitable raiding locations
You've overthinking things. Raid whenever there's an opportunity to raid, or you just can't think of anything better for that army to be doing right now. Evade or ambush when armies come after you. Burn settlements whenever they're exposed or you have overwhelming forces.

Stop planning, and act like a beast, man. It's a hell of a lot of fun to just gallivant across the campaign map like a mad goat.
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>>150312012
I really hope they do find a way. It doesn't seem like it would be that difficult conceptually to add a sub map to the campaign map. Just have a few entryways on the edges that allow armies to enter in different locations and have a big button over the forest that will cause the camera to "zoom in" on the Other Loren map to show all the regions and allow moving of armies. The only thing I worry about from a players perspective is if doing that would introduce performance problems.
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>start Empire campaign
>Beastmemes appear almost immediately
>Khazrak's only hostile to me and Todbringer
Is this a Marienburg conspiracy? Bunch of goddamn furries.
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>>150319634
Found that Beastmen AI beeline for empire and middenland.
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>>150283349
That's fucking ridiculous. Gobbos assassin's are shit aswell.
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>>150319758

that behavior makes it way too easy to counter and destroy the beast boyz early, had Karl hang around in ambush stance nearh Holmgard and just intercept smash them when they tried to bypass the town with beastpaths.
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Is there a upkeep reduction mod? I'd like to see some massive army spam for more field battles.
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>>150317304
Nothing, its a good value card that actually goes hand-in-hand with 980, so it's good. People just think they need to get their hands on the latest and greatest (which is titan x), with no prior knowledge on how Nvidia operates.
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did Romans really wear capes /tg/? or is it all fictional bullshit
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>>150318936
Thats sort of what Ive been doing thus far. It usually ends with me ending up in situations where each victory costs me too much cause I cant afford to fund my armies.
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>>150321239
no. capes were not actually invented until 2009.
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>>150321239
>/tg/
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How would you fix the Chaos campaign, /twg/?

>loot & raze like beastmen
>fresh hordes don't create infighting for at least one turn
>subjugate option immediately vassalizes norscan tribe
>norscan subjugated vassals less likely to betray you

I think this is the bare minimum so it won't feel as tedious anymore, but Chaos gameplay as a whole should be a lot more flavourful. Any lorefags with neat ideas?
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>>150318417
thanks!
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>It's a everybody declares war on you by turn 20 for no reason episode
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>>150314993
>datamining

Fuck off

>>150315362
There are a ton of Israelis on fucking /pol/, of course there should at least be a few on a board where Jews aren't blamed for 90% of disasters
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>>150316157
>twg
>women, especially qt women
not a chance
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>>150322056

No really fuck this game, why would Marienburg, Bastonne and Karak Norn all come together just to fuck me up in the opening act of the game?
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>>150321873
I think making it so the AI doesn't autistically try to kill your vassals off would be nice

It feels like the Chaos campaign is designed so that the Norscan tribes are supposed to act as your Waagh/Brayherd type of thing but because the AI is fucking dumb it ruins it every time
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>>150322056
because you are weak, and they know it
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Well, /twg/ I had bitched in a previous thread about the advisor breaking my camera and hard stopping my campaign when chaos showed up. I'm sad to say that the bug still remains after trying to get the fucker to stop, breaking alliances and trying to make it so they weren't all trying to trigger and it seems like this campaign is just dead now. Until CA puts out a fix for this I think my time trying the single player campaign is over. I don't want to lose a third game in the long campaign to this fucking bug,
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>>150321873
Well least they could start with is buffing Sigvald to make him useful, overhauling a lot of the Lord skills (especially the blue ones, theyre all shit except lightning strike and horde growth) and maybe adding agent defense on Exalted Heroes/Sorcerers. A means of transferring horde population to a new horde would be great aswell, would make raising new hordes MUCH less tedious.
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>greenskins only own Karak 8 peaks and a city in the extreme south
>siege k8p for like 3 turns
>out of fucking nowhere, Grimgor spawns with a semi full army next to k8p

I don't mind the AI having economic and diplomatic buffs, but that's just cheating. You can't recruit a lord next to your city if it's under siege
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are you sure he didn't use underground passage?
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>>150323729
That doesn't happen, he probably just used the underway to pop up there. This isn't Third Age or Rage of the Dark Gods.
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>>150323729
Just get the no ai cheats mod if it bothers you.
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>>150322132
>there are people who think they live in a movie where anyone actually cares enough about them to engage in a clandestine data-mining operation of a video-game general on an online imageboard
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>>150312484
There is a mod for that. Just go to the workshop on steam and search less blood. It gives units a light splattering instead of an inch thick coat of fucking blood covering them head to toe.

Pic related, much better than vanilla if you ask me.
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>>150322845
it's a pretty big issue all over the forums. some people have said you can try declaring war on skaeling or varg or something before the chaos invasion happens and that fixes it or try mashing enter to skip the cutscene and that does. you could try those. alternatively get a no-chaos invasion mod if there is one, or try playing as chaos.
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Lets say I want to complete an easy chaos campaign as fast as possible so I can unlock Sarthorael. Which of the champions is best and what should I do?
>>
>use Pistoliers
>they actually kill things while memeing on everyone with their speed
But you said they were terrible, /twg/.
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>>150324417
I haven't tried declaring war on the varg or Skaeling yet so I'll give that a shot. I've tried hammering ESC but that still ended up with my movement and turn dial locked out.
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When is Warhammer Total war set in the world timeline?
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>>150324354
Looks way better, I downloaded it, but I hope it will not fuck up the game for some reasons
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>>150324735
Karl Franz became Emperor in 2502, that's the start of the game. Storm of Chaos happened in like 2515-2520 iirc, so that could be the equivalent of Archaon's invasion
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>>150324735
Pre-end times. There isn't a definitive time because of stuff like Manny coming back from the dead by the start of the game, but Azhag is still alive.
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>>150324735
2552 as far as i remember
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HAHA time for Warhammer!
>3x cygors
>3x cygors spawned from shamans
>6X cygors + a whole army
>devolve
>devolve
>devolve XD

CA. I will find you. And i will kill you.
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>>150324735
around 2502, it aint 100% sure though because have stuff like Manny running around who was a still a pickled corpse in a bog during that time.
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>>150324539
They can do very well if you manage to maneuvre them behind unarmored units for some sweet volleys. Unfortunately, they die to absolutely anything that manages to catch up with them and thus get shrekt by the norscan warhound spam.
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>mfw
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>>150324669
>>150324417
I tried declaring war on the Skaelings as I hadn't met the Varg yet and my camera still got stuck like this and I had to quick load to get out of being stuck in this screen. Campaign's looking pretty dead sadly
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>>150325281
>playing worst faction

the eternal kraut strikes again
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>>150324767
I've been using it since its release and I haven't had any problems with it at all, it's good to go. It's a favorite of mine, can't stand the obnoxious amount of strawberry jam blood coating everything in a 3 mile radius whenever a gobbo stubs his toe.
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>>150325447
are you playing with a faction unlocker mod?
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>>150325447
well it's not an isolated thing so hopefully they'll release a fix soon. you could try playing as chaos which would remove the issue.
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>>150325481
>Vampire cunts
>not the best faction
baka desu senpai
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>You can Beast Path across water
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>>150325598
Nope, vanilla

>>150325617
I would but I'm honestly not all that interested in the chaos campaign. I lost an orc and an empire campaign to this bug and I would love to just play those through to the end.

>>150324417
I did find this mod though so hopefully I can use this until they get a bug fix out.
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>>150325281

>kriegsherde
>felsenfest
>bretonisches misstrauen

Pretty lazy translation uezs
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>>150325714
*unzips katana*

What did you say?!
>>
>>150325814
Malagors other name is moses
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>>150297974
What are wood elves anyways? Just high elves that decided to live in the woods?
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>>150324486
You get sartorial for completing the grand campaign with any faction.
>>
>>150325281
>untote

kek
>>
>still no death and metal wizards mod for the Empire
>>
>>150326343
>deathmetal wizard
>>
>>150325835
Well, it looks like there won't be any chaos invasion until a bug fix comes out but at least I can maybe finish this fucking campaign to some degree.
>>
>>150326343
Who needs a lore of metal hero when you already have the worst secondary LL in the entire game?
>>
>>150326447
Best wizard.
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>>150308186
>ogres have an entire kingdom down south.

Are you talking about the Mountains of Mourn? Because that shit is way off to the east, in between The Dark Lands (Chaos Dwarf territory) and Grand Cathay.
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>>150325814
Under-sea caverns exist.
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>>150326018
Nah they are savage as fuck and def. not "just" good tree huggers.
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>>150326629

CA squished the dark lands, so the MoM will be pretty close to the actual map
>>
>>150326018
white trash
>>
WHO PLAYS WHICH FACTIONS:

>Beastmen
Furries
>Chaos
Edgelords
>Greenskins
Comedians
>Vampire Counts
People who believe there is a natural order in things
>Empire
Your average Joe who just wants to save the world
>Dwarfs
Your average Joe who just wants to sit in his giant fortress and be left alone
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I tried doing an empire campaign where I had to complete all the side missions and quests, but if fucked up my campaign too much. For example the first chapter quest you need to complete 3 elector count missions, and make sure you have a rank 3 barracks befor you conquer more than 3 cities. So while I was waiting for my shit to build someone took the last city in reikland and my economy is fucked.
>>
>>150327150
But I play every faction.
>>
>>150327150
Fuck off, Mannfred.
>>
>>150327150
>Beastmen
>Beastly men in reality, guaranteed 7ft 350lb ultra-masculine gorebull human equivalents IRL

ftfy
>>
>>150322032
cheers!
>>
>>150327864
So they're /fit/ but taller?
>>
>>150327150
This seems accurate. What about the upcoming factions?
>>
>>150311730
as I recall one is +3 for 2 turns and the other is +2 for 3 turns
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>>150327150
>>Empire
Hisfag who goes for fashion instead of stats.
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>>150326792


damn, imagine how 'ard the orc lads living next to the chaos wastes must be
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>>150328585
dey dead 'ard
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>>150327979
Not necessarily fit, just big scary looking manly men. Wallpunching hyper-aggressive roid monsters or big snarling fat bastards that never bathe and have criminal records.

Charles Bronson would play beastmen.
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>>150329021
"dead" being the operative word here
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>>150253876
So in warhammer are there secret variables that influence diplomacy? I noticed Toddbringer hates your guts no matter what, and it feel like if a faction has decided it wants to invade you in the next 20 turns, he will reject every offer no matter how much it says they like you. It is really fuggin irritating. The campign feels like spam units -> attack neighbour -> build up province -> repeat
>>
______ was ____
Witness ____ _______!
>>
>Dwarf mercenaries
>Hoplite-style spears in a HRE style
>Good bowmen and swashbucklers (pistol and sword)
>Sacrifices the high end tech and knights of Empire

Its fun, time to get faction unlocker for BP Trump-wall campaign
>>
>>150329349
It's part of the "narrative". Middenland is funding the Empire Secessionists. The old man tells you about it and the first Karl Franz quest battle has some info on it too.
>>
>>150329431
>Mannfred
was
>weak
witness
>him crumble
>>
>>150302791
You'll be fine. I have a gtx960 and I get decent frames on the Ultra preset, though I usually just chill oh High since the frames are better and it doesn't look too different. Just remember to enable unlimited video memory.
>>
>>150329431
______ ___ _______ ______!
>>
>>150324283
>there are people dumb enough to give out their data on the internet because "lol no one cares about ur data so just give it to me"

Not today, zuckerberg
>>
>>150329732
DELETE THIS

>>150329749
KILL__ THEM RAISE THEM
>>
>>150329749
___ __ ____! ___ __ ____!
>>
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>>150329469
Border Princes best Princes
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>>150329749
____ ______ ____ ___ ____ __ _______!
>>
>>150329935

KA-A-ARL!
FRA-A-ANZ!
>>
>fighting Chaos as Dorf
>dorfs still shout "KILL URKS"
woooow
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____ _____!
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>>150330321
Trolls are a chaos unit too desu
sort of counts
>>
>>150330321
"Urk" can also mean "enemy".
>>
>>150329431
>Grimgor
>'ere

>poo
>pillar
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>>150330416
>not the smile image
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>>150323729
Imagine playing as greenskins
>having dorfs down to 2 settlements,
>they only have one stack in your way
>even on the diplomatic screen it lists dwarves at a strength ranking of 31
>hold outside their territory waiting for reinforcements from south
>in 3 turns they shit out just as many new stacks, literally out of nowhere
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>>150330715
>hold outside their territory waiting for reinforcements from south
No you fool, you stand with one toe inside their territory and raid.
>>
>>150329679
Why would they give franz a quest to ally nordland if it is impossible to?
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>>150330924
I had to stay out of range of their lone stack or else he would attack. My greenskins needed reinforcements for a reason.
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>>150330862
I retract my statement, pretend you never saw me.
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>>150331048
>nordland

It's not.
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I'm gonna try multiplayer first time ever. How do I not get buttblasted? Game is Warhammer.
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>>150331105
>>
>>150329749
SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
>>
>>150331427
yep
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>>150331310
scout with your bats and then split up your army to do some overly complicated hammer and anvil meme while your enemy just sits on a hill and shoots you
Also only use like half your army

That's what the pros do
>>
>>150327150
>Beastmen
People who liked Gothic Warband in Attila
>Chaos
People who like heavy infantry but slow armies, and a bit of edge
>Greenskins
ppl who still say m8, and call their nan a ch33ky kunt
>Vampire counts
People who think Nagash was weak
>Empire
Best bros
>Dwarfs
People who are 5ft11 and uner (aka Manlets)
>>
>>150332260
>People who liked Gothic Warband in Attila
soooo, everyone?
>>
>get a WAAAGH!
>go WAAAAGH! on da stunties
>mfw I can auto-resolve everything
Not sure what I was expecting from the orc campaign desu.
>>
>>150333148
>6 stacks of terror and infinite money
>get tired of autoresolving everything after awhile
>launch the battle normally
>game is nearly unplayable in the siege because there are so many units
>>
Should i get rome 2 or atilla? Give me reasons for the one you recommend
>>
>>150333148
autoresolving can completely break VC and orc campaigns, you need to fight those battles manually if you actually want a challenge
>>
>>150333148
and then everyone and their mother Dow you, public order is so low you get a rebellion every turn and you don't make any money because your empire is constanty raped and raided by other orcs and dwarves
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>>150333324
attila, its actually good
>>
>>150333324
Atilla is a much better game.

The "i don't like the setting, muh lorica segmentata" excuse is the mark of a fucking pleb who should be working on the fields rather than playing TW.
>>
>>150333148
Auto resolve is way to strong in this game, i am almost finished with my Legendary Beastmen campaign. I tried to fight every single battle, but toward the end of the game i found myself just auto resolving sieges because i couldn't be bothered with waiting 5 turns to recruit new units and recover, i also hate controlling 40 units at a time.

What ratio do you guys auto resolve to fight?
>>
>>150333579
Which dlc's should i get? im planning on getting charlemagne and viking forefathers
>>
>>150333324
Rome 2 was basically the beta test for atilla. The only reason to play rome 2 is if you really want to play as carthage or the classical greeks.
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New DaC is out.
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>>150333326
I always see VC at strength 1 when all the have is 3 stacks of zombies.
>>
>>150333773
>What ratio do you guys auto resolve to fight?
Depends. I'm having way too much fun playing Vampire cunts and feeling in charge of the situation, so I only auto-resolve the most one-sided fights.
Certainly used it far more in my Dorf campaign though.
>>
>>150333785
>viking forefathers
dont get this, its crap, and saxons have a nordic roster anyway AND are available in the base game, empires of sand is the only really good DLC, celts are ok too, I liked the last roman but only when playing as loyalist roman expedition, and you already mentioned AoC, so none of the other DLC is really worth having
>>
>>150333785
charlie>sandniggers>slavs>lastcuck>>>celts>shit>snowniggers
>>
>>150333773
I'll say one thing for the beastmen DLC, it's stopped me autoresolving every single siege attack battle. Smashing in the gates with minotaurs still hasn't got old.
>>
Fuck. I'm about 40~ turns deep in to my VC campaign. I've been pretty torn on where to go after establishing a strong economy in west + east Sylvania. I spent a good amount of time attacking the two dwarf factions to the east of me, and was getting the bloody spears and some other greenskin faction that had vampiric influence to ally me. The smaller faction is effectively wiped out, and the bloody spears randomly decided to confederate with greenskins, so I'm back at square one and surrounded by people who hate me. What do I do?
>>
wow when did they add blood? i haven't played since launch. i looked for a mod but there wasn't one. does the blood come with the update or the beastmen dlc?

i swear to god if i have to pay $20 for shitty blood i'm pirating all the dlc's from here on out.
>>
>>150327150
>sitting in your fortress when there are grudges to settle
Into the book it goes
>>
>>150334938
3$ blood for the blood god dlc
shit sucks
>>
Are Razorgors and Beastmen Chaos Spawn actually any good?

How do Razorgors compare to Centigors with Great Weapons?

I'm tempted to capstone my horde with the 50% upkeep reduction building and start working on horde 2, and those + giants (fuck giants) are all I have left to get.
>>
>>150334723
You fucked up. Dorfs are your best friends, should've went west instead.
>>
>>150334938
You have to pay 2,99. Same as it ever was.
>>
>>150333965
whats new?
>>
>>150335174
beastmen Chaos spawns are great for support. They got that poison attack. So use them together with gors or bestigors.
>>
Is there any reason to get all three upgrades in the gryphon skill for Karl Franz instead of just getting one and then getting Deathclaw?
>>
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PEE PEE POO POO WHERE IS MY RAPEFU?!
>>
>>150335020
>>150335261
jesus fucking christ. how jewish can game companies be nowadays?

is it worth it? can i pirate just the dlc and it'll work with steam?

it's not even about price it's about principle.
>>
>>150334723
>What do I do?
Kill them and raise them
>>
>>150335330
Haven't played it yet, but it looks like the Khazad-dum campaign works now.
>>
>>150335607
Do you mean pegasus? If so, no, there's no point, it's a waste of skill points.
>>
>>150335681
>jesus fucking christ. how jewish can game companies be nowadays?

Same as it ever was.

>is it worth it?
It's pretty well done and you also get some campaign events I guess. Blood is kinda essential for warhammer desu. Also 3 dollars is nothing,

>it's not even about price it's about principle.
Don't buy it.
>>
START NEW CAMPAIGN
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>>150335681


Pretty worth to get a real warhammer feel. It isn't just blood decals and sprays but actual severing of heads and limbs and models getting split in half/eaten/exploded with guts all over the place.

Their excuse is that if they do it like this they can get a lower age rating for their game while still satisfying people who want gory visuals.

I don't know if it's true but I thought it was worth it, I didn't buy the beastman DLC tho cause fuck if I care about their mini-campaign and I'm not paying 20 bucks for one faction.
>>
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>>150333965
Eru Allfather that's a great picture
>>
>>150336708
>I don't know if it's true
It's true for some cuntries. Selling something like that is still shameful though desu.
>>
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>they said beastmen always got wiped out in the first dozen turns

literally the first time i see beastmen is after they raze the entirety of bretonnia and invade reikland, coincidentally a single turn after chaos turn up
>>
>>150335719
destroy them
death to the living
>>
>>150335220
So I should get friendly with the dwarfs and then start moving in to the other human factions' territory?
>>
>>150336936
Congratulations anon. What's their army comp like?
>>
>played 100+ hours
>just realized you can attack with your garison when under siège
Now i feel dumb
>>
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>>150337112
>>
>>150337107
Yes. Depending on your circumstances, you might be able to just remove a few roaming greenskin armies and they'll start worshiping you.
Basically, ded dorfs help no one. You can get some sweet trading going with them, and they'll protect you from Grimgor's boys for free.

>>150336936
pee pee poo poo
the meme is on you

Seriously though, that's pretty nice. They always get quietly wiped out in my campaigns.
>>
>>150336936
>He actually built the pottery building in Altdorf
You big silly.
>>
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>>150337414
how...
>>
>>150337414
I'm more impressed he's managed to get his legendary gear without ever stepping foot in Middenland. Does the AI just get gifted those at some random point?
>>
>>150333965

>not_jerusalem.jpg
>>
NEW THREAD WHERE
>>
>>150337789
I think they get them as they level up. I'm guessing a few levels higher than when they player unlocks the quests.
>>
>>150337789
I've fought dorfs with their legendaries on like turn 20-30 of greenskins
probably just AI cheating
>>
>>150337552
i have the tier-4 minor settlements mod so i have excess space in altdorf
>>
>>150338182
>using cheats
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>>150337989
But Minas Tirith is worth everything.
>>
>>150338261
It's not really a cheat, it just makes the game less tedious. It's not like it changes any units.
>>
so i know CA confirmed that all 16 main factions would be in the game, but i was thinking, if it is a trilogy with one game each year and a dlc race every 4 monthes or so (which i dont think is too crazy to imagine) thats 24 factions what would the extras be, minor reskin type things like kislev or something?
>>
So, what's the verdict? Are Beastmen worth 20$?
>>
>>150338626
Majority seems to say no. I regret it, since I'll never play the mini campaign and I'm not even a fan of horde factions.
>>
>>150338626
Best DLC made by CA, fun faction much more fun than Chaos.
>>
>>150338567
> if it is a trilogy with one game each year
what?

>thats 24 factions what would the extras be, minor reskin type things like kislev or something?

what the fuck are you trying to say?
>>
>>150338753
>>150338828
I guess I'll buy it on the sale. I dislike horde factions, never liked beastmen anyway and I really don't care about the mini campaign.

Elves [all three], Bretonia, region unique Empire units and Tomb lords when?
>>
How many factions are in the new world? I know there's high/dark elf and lizardmen, anything else?
>>
>>150339475
there's an vc faction on the coast next to lizardmen.
>>
>>150339475
There's Amazons, but they'd be a minor faction if anything.
>>
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New thread when?
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>>150339475

norscan's on the coast with some tilean/estelian colonies. Skaven in the depths of lustria and that's pretty much everything.
>>
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>>150330676
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>>150339475
>mfw lizardmen release
>>
>>150338626
http://www.gamesdeal.com/total-war-warhammer-call-of-the-beastmen-dlc.html

can get it for $15 here which is a fairer price
>>
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i tried so hard...

>tfw all those raped people
>>
>>150341031

>1 mortar

gonna need some more firepower than that famalam
>>
>>150341305
it was a garrison
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