/dsg/ - Souls General

Sorry for the cutscene boys, gotta afk 10 sec

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Mommy Rosaria! I love her lots and lots!

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POST CUTE

william wanna try again?

>DaS2
>strength can use almost every traditionally strength-based weapon class (ultras, axes, hammers, etc.) optimally as well as a fewl unique weapon options from traditionally dex or quality-based weapon classes
>dex can use every traditionally dex-based weapon optionally, as well as a few unique weapon options from traditionally strength or quality-based weapon classes, including some unique ultras
>quality can use traditionally quality-based weapons optimally, as well as a few unique weapon options from traditionally strength or dex-based weapon classes.
>all casting archetypes have a plethora of melee weapons that are optimal with their casting stats and unique attributes/abilities
>several hybrid melee-caster stat weapon options exist with unique attributes/abilities
>even raw has viable weapon options to base a build around
>all builds can access weapons that are viable even in serious pvp, and most these weapon options are unique to each build.

>DaS3
>strength can use a small number of traditionally strength-based weapons optimally, but not many
>dex can use no weapon optimally
>quality can use every weapon optimally, especially those that are traditionally strength or dex-based
>luck can use every weapon quality can use, some less optimally and some ever-so-slightly more optimally.
>casters have nothing.

How is it that while we move forward in time, we move backwards in game design?

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>>150249908
At least I got a screenshot out of it.

Can someone run me through the Cathedral or at least to Rosaria?

PS4
Pass: dsg
Bonfire: Crystal Sage

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>>150250006
Cute!

WE FUCKING DID IT BOYS

I DIED AT THE LAST SECOND BUT WE GOT NK

>Finally get a blue spirit summoned through way of the blue to save my ass
>Immediately die
GJ me for being in charge of NOT FUCKING DYING.

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Holy shit

literally the funnest fucking boss fight i've ever had in my entire ds career

i love all of you

can i have back my shield tho

>get red eye orb and decide to try it out
>gank squad
>gank squad
>gank squad
>hacker
>gank squad
>hacker
>seeded ganksquad
>connection error
>gank squad

Fuck pvp is absolute cancer I might as well play in offline mode with this shit

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>>150250006

>>150250459
GIT GUD

>>150250428

That was a great fight man. And yeah I'll give the shield and ring back, just summon where you want to co-op next.

>>150250391
>blue summoned to lothric castle
>loading screen takes 3 and a half minutes (I kept a timer)
>I spawn in dead because my character actually spawned into the host;s world long before I was out of the loading screen and was killed while I was still reading about Green Blossoms, unable to control my character.

>>150250382
I'm curious, what NG cycle were you even on?

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>>150250006
>>150250504
Lothric a cute! CUTE!

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>>150250382

>>150250058

God don't remind me, I love 3 and all and like 2 the least of these games but the weapon balance is the worst part, and I loved how there was a special niche for specific builds among most weapon classes in 2.

>Mirrah Greatsword and Drakeblood GS are A/S scaling Greatswords in 2
>in 3 they're both fucking quality weapons.

>>150250528
Right outside homoprinces of course

I'd appreciate someone that can tank with the skull ring.

Literally the only reason we were able to kill NK was because of NMS' awesome tanking

>>150250579
NG+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

aka ng+32

>>150250428
Cool. Too bad I wasn't much help since NK is almost immune to lightning.

>>150250670

Heading to the princes gate now.

>>150250680
Coulda used Dorhys' gnawing you silly ghru

>>150250657
>Drakeblood GS went from S scaling in dex and one of the best dex weapons in the game to being D/D quality and among the worst-in-class greatswords

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>fucking princesses elavator goes down instead of up

i fucking hate this

>>150250985
Are you gonna host twincest next? I'm totally in for that

>>150250523
Explain how you're supposed to git gud against a dude and 2 sunbros camping right at your spawn point with their stamina buffs and gottfaggot twinswords at the ready?

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>>150250819
Guess I'll try it out if you guys haven't gone in yet

>>150250836
will its damage go up a meaningful amount if you buff it with darkmoon blade or lightning blade?

come to think of it, are there any top-tier weapons for weapon buffs?

DLC when?
I want this game to be alive again

>>150249661
Unique moveset silly

>>150250459
Kill Aldrich for them. Just do it

>>150250626
In game that isn't true

>>150251057
Don;t bother with it vs the princes. Lothric is immune to dark.

Like, actually immune, you don't even get damage numbers popping up with you hit him with dark magic.

Is SL70 considered high in DaS3? Should I stop leveling here or keep going? I don't wanna fug myself out of multiplayer stuff.

Alright dudes, let me go fetch Greirat's corpse for the ebic lightning bolts and then I'll meet you at SoC's house

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MASSIVE BULLYING
>>150251286
It was for bleed through

>>150251286
He's not immune to bleed

>>150250428

Why the Duel Avelyns? It literally has no benefits over a single one since you can't shoot/reload at the same time?

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>>150251382
>people will defend this

>>150251074

Not him, but I tried it on 40/40 with Gold Pine Bundles/Resin and it only makes the basic 2HR1s do about 300 damage, which is the bare minimum most other Greatswords do without the buff and with a better moveset and range at that level. The resins add a lot to weapons with the innate element as is and using Darkmoon/Lightning Blade wouldn't be much difference I think.

>>150251485
Two volleys > two reloads has greater burst damage than volley > reload > volley

and it also gives the same amount of damage as one crossbow but twice the effective durability saving me from having to sprinkle dust

>>150251538
don't weapon buffs like dmb/lb add a lot more AR than resin, both by default and if you have a shit-ton of faith?

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>>150250657
DaS2
Mirrah Greatsword: 45% STR, 55% DEX
Drakeblood Greatsword: 15% STR, 60% DEX

DaS3
Hollowslayer Greatsword: 35% STR, 56% DEX
Drakeblood Greatsword: 30% STR, 30% DEX (gains 10% each Refined)

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>>150249797
FUCK ALDRICT AND FUCK YOU MIYAZAKI THERE SHOULD BE A WAY TO SAVE QWYNDOLIN DARK SOULS 3 IS SHIT AND NOT CANNON

>>150251521
>people will care at all
Being competitive about Souls PVP is like being competitive about Connect Four

How come I sometimes randomly get estus charges back?

>>150251707
They actually don't add much more in reality.
Resins are really fucking strong in this game because they were aware their values needed to be high to overcome the stupid flat defense system. Buffs are the weakest they have veer been in a souls game because Miyazaki hates faith.

Tfw never made it passed ng+

>i didnt immediately get greirat's corpse after nk and he despawned after killing twincest

im going to fucking kill myself

>>150251783
when you earn 50% of your souls required to level the game gives you an estus charge back

>>150251783
It's a random drop but more likely to give back a charge from powerful foes like knights or large beasts

>>150251783

Killing certain enemies or an amount of enemies randomly gives you an estus back. It's weird, look up the testing illusorywall did on the system, Darkwraiths usually trigger this the most.

>>150251783
What's fucking bullshit

>don't get ashen estus charges back as a host for killing reds
>get them as a phantom for killing other phantoms
?????????

>>150251908
>he despawned after killing twincest
That's possible? When you kill SoC, you can just go NG+33 :^)

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Any PCfag wanna hold my hand through Irithyll?

>>150251379
pls respond

>sent home
;______________:

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>are obviously women from their body shape and movements
>still called fume sorcerERs
wat

>>150252061
What made you think 70 is high? Go to 120.

>>150252132
NMS, hoboharry, and Alsatia are the co-op club sry senpai i love you ;-;

>>150251754
>implying Miyazaki didn't have a vore fetish
>impling Miyazaki hasn't fapped to the thought of Gwyndolin struggling as slime oozes forcefully into his boypussy

Could a kind soul donate Champion Gundyr's soul and some embers?

I'll exchange it for a weapon of your choice or whatever

Haven't played since the first month of release.

What is the new hot shit in DS3? I enjoyed the BKGA.

>>150252061
the 'meta' stops at 120 but i get invaded/can invade at SL200+ without to much trouble

>>150252053
sure, pass and where to put sign

>>150252053
Sure thing.
What's the pass and where am I dropping my sign?

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>>150252252
Got a couple dudes coming to the rescue. Thanks though love you

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>>150251754
>CANNON
?

>>150251743
Numbers work differently in each game. C/C is already very strong and B/B sickeningly good in 3 and there are very few Ss in general

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>>150251521
What anon, you don't like backstab souls?

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>>150250006

>tried to see if I could tank Soul of Cinder's crazy flurry of attacks in his second form

That didn't go so well.

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Which gauntlets look better?

>>150252471
it's NG+32 four phantom

what the hell were you expecting you crazy ghru

thanks for the help BOYS

>>150252480
Alva. Sunless has shitty stats

>>150252480
Alva.

>>150252385
>countering poorly spaced magic spam
>lol remember le backstabs guise???
eat a bullet

>>150252480
alva for bulk

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>dragon

>>150252480
first, second's hands are a bit to small i think.

why did they add a boss as a regular enemy so fucking quickly in SOTFS

and god I hate how I have more ADP than VIG and still get hit in stupid ways

>>150252540
>poorly spaced

the only mistake he made was using an attack that wasn't a backstab in backstab souls

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>>150252535
Glad to return the favor senpai, thanks for the embers + souls

>>150251143
If you mean gimmicky, then I have to disagree with you about that being needed.

>>150252749
you're welcome lad

ANYONE ELSE WANNA CO-OP. MY AVELYNS ARE HUNGRY

where pc fc

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hahaha
get fucked shieldboy

>>150252842
Is it pastatime again already?

>>150252842
Learn to cook better pastas

>>150252842
Watchu talkin bout Cracka?

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>>150252540
sorry anon I can't hear you, the backstab trigger noise is making it very hard

>>150252840

Where to next friend?

>>150252936

Rude, but well deserved.

>>150252936
>Firelink Greatsword WA isn't a super long Fire Sword combo like Ivory King sword was.

>>150252842
Kekcoin pls

SL 212 man, you better leave deacons alive on your next cycle so you can host meme fcs in the infinitely respawning zombie pits

>BKGS R2 charging underneath enemy swings

I WILL NEVER TIRE OF THIS

>>150253025
Man I'm done

I don't want to go through NG+33 today

I usually go through two NG every week but im all NG'd out this week desu.

Anyone need any help??

>>150253104
kek I'd love to do that

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>>150252656
well, at least I put points into vig

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>>150252842
WTF I hate Dark Souls now

>>150253025
my only regret is that i didn't immediately go and do point down on you :^)

>>150253084
Would be just about as useless as great hammer warcry r2s

>>150253104
> so you can host meme fcs in the infinitely respawning zombie pits
want, how far does dmg scale with every ng+?

>>150253227
Why is that shield so popular? Saw a lot of people with it recently

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Wait what in the fuck???

GREIRAT'S CORPSE WAS IN IRITHYLL, YET HIS ASHES ARE GIVING ME ACCESS TO HIS LOTHRIC INVENTORY

>>150253265

S-s-stop bullying. ;_;

>>150253059
>full of themselves quietly
What does that mean?

>>150253353
7.5 weight, 66 stability, 89 lightning defense, able to parry. You tell me.

>>150253363
>went through 32 NGs and still doesn't know his Lothric ashes are only for explosive and splintering

>>150252842
DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2

I can still respect the opinion of anyone that thinks DaS1, DeS, BB, or even DaS3 is their favorite. The only ones that are full of shit are people that try to say DaS2 is best, and they are usually pretty blatant trolls.

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>>150253353
Highest stability parry shield

>>150253429
>7.5
try again

>>150252195
MIYAZAQUEER IS RETARDED QWYNDOLIN IS A PURE MAIDEN IT"S STUPID

>>150253363
no it's not

if it was his lothric inventory you would have access to splintering and exploding bolts

>>150253363
That's good news but why didn't you tell patches that he was going to irithyll you monster

>>150253569
w-what are exploding
>>150253569
a-and splintering bolts

;-;

>>150253550
Somehow I mixed up LKSh and BKSh in my head because I actually use both. I also fucked up the lightning resistance lol

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>>150252842
>>150253059
>>150253250
>>150253483
>farming those (You)s

>>150253550
>just noticed you build
GOD DAMN IT DRAKE AAAAAAAAAA

>>150252842
>>150253059
>>150253250
>>150253483

Sounds like you're getting burnt out, but I totally agree where you're coming from with the endless best/worst arguments.

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>>150253104
i can do that right now

but i'm thoroughly tired of this game now so i probably won't

>>150253250
>bullying 212

literally all this kid does is fucking meme in the general, give out free rings, weapons, and armor from his fucking NG+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ adventures and co-op with literally anyone and everyone that asks

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>>150253698
>grapeshot bleed
>small AoE high dmg
Sex ammo

>>150253698
Greirat's inventory is mismatched. You can buy pontiff stuff off him after Undead Settlement, and Lothric stuff after Irithyll.
Devs must have changed his stock to give you some goodies earlier, and make Greirat's death avoidable without a lot of consequence.

>titanite slabs aren't infinitely buyable in NG+
>don't want to go on yet another NG+ level since the inevitable DLC will be hard enough as is first time and I'm burnt out on the PvE in general

I guess it's CE or bust for me.

>>150252763
I mean different animations or something meaningful setting it apart beyond damage type.

I like you Lucy, no need to take your trip off

>>150253984
>implying thst's a good thing

Also, he should've updated the list since some of those guys are gone

Can Patches save Greirat after I've killed every boss in the game or does killing the Pontiff cancel Patches coming to the rescue? I'm on the 4th playthrough on one character and didn't bother with his quest line until now.

>>150254163
>kekyorin is either lucy's buttbuddy or lucy himself

>>150254140
>not slabbing and infusing with a friend and backups

>>150253278
The current WA is already too slow to be useful might as well make it cool.

>host's that chameleon and hide in the hopes that their phantoms can take care of you
So many of them do this now, it;s hilarious. At first I thought they were just mirroring fightclub faggotry and letting me "duel" their squad, but they always try to jump in at the last second and "ambush" me when their passworded buds can't win for them. I'm beginning to believe they're hiding to try and stay safe, like they're afraid I'll assassinate them before the hired help can clean house unless they turn into a box and nuzzle themselves into a corner """in"""conspicuously.

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>>150252842
>>150253059
>>150253250
>>150253483

Don't worry everyone no matter what this anon says even though I respect his opinion I still really enjoy posting here, ever since ds1. Thank you all.

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>>150254352

I don't have any friends.

>>150252729
no, it's not possible to punish magic unless you do it at that range

>>150252992
>massively whiffed R2
the real joke here is that you can't even punish that in DaS3

>>150254282
Greirat needs a boss to be killed in order for his questline to progress.
No bosses to kill, no progression.

>>150254334
I don't know who kekyorin is

Lucy gets way more hate than he deserves though, I really like him

I have 30 ADP, why am I still getting hit during rolls? Where are the i-frames located in a roll, the start, or the end, or what? Do some boss melee attacks ignore i-frames? I don't fucking get it.

People actually bought SotFS at full price?

>>150254425
I don't respect them and hate you

>>150254487
I'm at the point where he wants to go to Irithyll. I could still kill the Lord of Cinders.

>>150254534
Because even if you have i-frames you need to time them, unlike das3.

>>150254447
>the real joke here is that you can't even punish that in DaS3
you can actually, just not with a backstab.

>>150254163
>I mean different animations or something meaningful setting it apart beyond damage type.

Either way, that's not needed, imo. Most weapons with truly unique movesets require builds specific to them, and I am fine with that.

The HMLS from BB, for example, is the prime example of what you are talking about and it basically required it's own build since in scaled from Str, Skl, and Arc in various ways and to varying degrees, and IIRC, it was split damage as well.

>>150254554
Wait, you don't hate me or you do hate me?

>>150254334
Nah, he is just someone trying to steal my gimmick.

>>150254618
Yes I fucking time my rolls. I should have a lot of time to work with for my investment. That's the whole fucking point in investing in ADP, so that dodging is easier. I don't know why I'm getting hit by Lost Sinner's slam swing when my head touched the floor at 106 AGI.

>>150254534
Iframes begin the very frame that you tap the button. There's is virtually no input delay, the moment you hit B/circle, you are invulnerable. They expire roughly halfway through the animation, after you've gone upside down and the depth of the tuck and started to right yourself.

You can delay your roll much longer than any of the other souls games because input response is much faster and sharper than the rest of the souls games. It might throw you off if you're used to bloodborne, with it's DeS-style forced 0.21s input delay and framerate-tied iframes.

>>150254837
Oh her slam has lingering hitboxes. Dodge backwards.

>>150254618
>massive tracking on every move, so you can't sidestep
>ultras have aoe stumble for some reason, so you can't outrange or WD it
>hyperarmor instead of poise, so you can't interrupt it
Wow, roll poking wins again in DaS3, what a surprise!

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>can't infuse crossbows
>elemental bolts are only effective against opponents with specific weakness to relevant bolts
>no mundane-esque infusion that scales off of your highest stat
>can't powerstance avelyn's
>reloading no longer mandatory immediately after firing, but more time and stamina consuming
>literally the most useless weapon art in-game

why did nobody tell me how fucking awesome the MLGS is?
>R2 quick horizontal slash that can be charged up for magic stuff
>WA does 800+ damage on red eyed lothric knights
its just so fucking fun to use

>>150254583
Then you're good to go, send him there then kill LoC as quickly as you can. He should be saved so long as Patches still has Onion armor in his inventory, can't remember if that last part is necessary but should still be regarded just in case..

>>150255063
>DS3 is my first souls game: the post

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>>150254993
>massive tracking on every move, so you can't sidestep
get good

>>150255063
It's probably the single worst rendition of the weapon in souls history. Even DaS2 did it better.

Hell, even Armored Core 4 did it better.

>>150255125
Alright cool. I guess it doesn't matter too much. I don't really need special crossbow bolts.

>>150255206
excellently done outskilling that filthy ultra greatsword user, anon!

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>>150255206
>That perfect grasp of latency

Fucking fantastic.

>>150255217
What, how so?
the MLGS is pretty decent in Dark Souls 3, does good damage and the WA is powerful.

>>150255206
>posts a literal retard trying to play unlocked

>>150255310
>consistent latency/weapon range in DaS3
holy shit i haven't laughed this hard in a while

>>150255136
>>150255217
well i didnt use it in ds1 and 2, ds3 is the first game in the series im actually trying to do a mage build

>>150255217

Nah the DaS2 MLGS was still the worst by far, the worst moveset of any rendition of it, was slow as shit for mediocre damage with mediocre beams still. It was only 'decent' on a RoBFlynn build when Enchanted infused for pure physical damage, and even then the Bluemoon GS was ironically a better option considering the stat investment to damage ratio.

>>150255206
Why is your armor completely broken?

>>150254920
I did, I dodged straight away from it, and I still ate shit for it. I killed her now, though, and it was from poison resin powerstanced broken straightsword swinging. I realize now I can't rely on my rolls to be worth shit in this game, no matter how "good" they are.

Also, I don't know who thought it was a good idea to block off a boss that was meant to be an alternate path through the level with a Fragrant Branch. I know they give you one right at the start, but branches ought to open up paths on a grander scale than just one way through a level. I've seen so many things petrified, often for no reason, that I wonder if you can even unpetrify everyone in a NG. Probably not, knowing what I've played of SOTFS so far.

>>150255307
We should raise awareness to the poor Greatsword users. Donate 1 dollar to prevent Greatsword Shaming.

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>>150255414

>>150255206
>no shockwave

nice i-frame hack faggot

starting DS1 for the first time ever.

already installed DSfix.

anything I should know otherwise?
Also, anything in specific I have to do to be online in it?

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Are they going to pull a SotFS with DaS3?

>>150255495
Lag.

>>150255487
>cover armor for each game
>except dark souls 3

what the fuck, dude?

>>150255402
>trying to play unlocked
>every attack he does comes in my direction even the second 2HR2, even though it gets interrupted

>>150255417
Why not?

>>150255495
I was probably outside the shockwave range in his screen.

>>150255542
Of course they are.

>>150255586
not mine

>>150255604
Those aren't R2s, and the guy not being able to turn and catch you with the upswing is borderline pathetic with DaS3's tracking

>>150255402
>Implying

It varies between players, but you can always get a feel for the specific connection you're currently playing through by just watching your opponent.

>>150255358
In dark souls 1 the beams had a massive AoE with a lingering hitbox that caused hard knockdown, allowing for knockdown chaining with competent manual aim
In Dark Souls 2 it had a unique moveset that combined GS and UGS attacks and completely unique animations for its R2s which also did not require being charged to fire their projectile. It could also be infused for an S int scaling, or be turned into a pure physical damage weapon with greatshield stability and 95% physical block
In BB it also did not require to be charged, but could be charged to fire off a stronger version of the projectile that typically dealt upwards of 700 damage in a game where endgame players typically didn't have more than 1400 HP. It also fired projectiles on the jumping, running, backstep and rolling R2s, had a transform attack with a magical explosion AoE, and had a better version of 3s WA as a regular attack which had a larger and wider AoE, more range, lingering hitbox, better tracking and was much faster.

>>150255416
That's because release MLGS was fucking insane

>>150255542
Why do you think the game runs like ass while looking worse then BB? Prepare to Roll Edition will come out a few months after the PS4.5

pc fc pc fc p cpofkgsdopfk

>>150255495
no, it's just DaS3's terrible netcode

this is the reason why katanafags can hit you with a WD while you're behind them

>>150255778
Oh yeah, right. They're R1s. He would have hit me if I didn't backstab him.

>>150255790
I used it in DaS1 and DaS2, and DaS1 is by far my favorite rendition of it, but in DaS3 I didn't find it to be very bad at all. I especially liked the fact that you could charge your attack or not for you can do a regular R2, good for catching people off guard surprisingly.

>>150255487
>didn't include a clip from King's Field where the sword originated
0/10

>>150254623
>Most weapons with truly unique movesets require builds specific to them, and I am fine with that.
It depends on the game you're talking about. I really did just mean weapons with unique animations though. For example, I would consider the Large Club in DaS2 unique.

A problem with DaS3, imo, is that 40/40 quality will give you the best version of almost every weapon moveset in the game. Adding more unique weapons with a significant magic element, or with huge Strength requirements and really good, unique one hand modes, would help this out. It would make the game a bit more replayable at least.

>>150255965
>First person game transitioning into third
good fucking luck mate

god fucking damn i really wish i could hornet riposte this fucking jojoposter irl

I bet the jojoposter is actually Ley.

>>150256192
Who?

>>150255428
There's a bunch of statues that are completely optional to de-petrify (at least one to three in Shaded Ruins, and two to three in Aldia's Keep). I think I'm sitting on a total of three or four spare branches and the only area I haven't completed is the Ivory King DLC.

>>150256281
>he didn't save up his branches before Ivory King
welp, enjoy all that content you can't access this playthrough.

>>150255125
Greirat fucking died. RIP. I guess you gotta do that part before you kill the Pontiff.

>>150256192
>>150256191
No it's not. It's someone who hates us all. He comes to FCs and acts like one of us, and get this. He doesn't bow, or use ANY gesture. He's destroying us from within.

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>>150255416

We all agree that the Holy Moonlight Sword was the best rendition, right? Anything that's good about the DS3 one was taken directly from this version.

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>Demon fist scaling is C - D D
>Firelink scaling is D D - -
>Demon Axe is C E D D
The fuck is with Fire Boss weapons and trash scaling.
They already have to deal with split damage, and the Firelink's split damage doesn't even scale.

who here wanna demon ruins pc fc

>>150256551
Not right now, I'm bullying low level hosts with a hollow carthus sword.

I'm being a shitter and enjoying it. I don't want to bring this into an FC.

>>150256412
god damn that looks good, cant wait for the ps4 price drop when ps4.5 comes out.

>>150256438
Every weapon in the game with innate fire damage has awful elemental scaling with the exception of the witch's locks.

It's universal.

>>150256438

It's the DS2 philosophy, they're built as quality weapons that happen to have some fire damage as a bonus. You're not meant to build around that aspect of them.

>>150256551
sure ill join

>>150256006
Quality giving you the best of almost every melee weapon is nothing new. One of my gimmick builds in DaS1 was like that.

It was called Edge Master, had 50/40 stats, and every 3 attack, I would hard swap to a new weapon.

>>150256163
All you have to do with show the pick up animation for the sword in Kings Field and slap that at the front of the webm

>>150256804
>It's the DS2 philosophy
What?
DaS2 had the most and most viable elemental weapons in the series. It was the only game where you could viably build pure caster stats and still have split-damage melee options made specifically for you that weren't total dogshit.

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>>150256794
literally never

Does anyone have a picture of a white phantom doing a full Ornstein cosplay

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>>150256907
That's because there were no real builds in DaS2, and there was no reason not to have high points in everything.

>>150256407
>he doesn't bow or use any gesture

Oh my, how could he?

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>>150257115
He stares coldly and then drinks estus

>>150256407
>it's fucking paddrick
I knew it.
I guess good ol' passive paddrick is now passive-aggressive paddrick.

He must be upset that he spends half of each FC getting dumpstered by everybody participating.

>>150257115
He probably doesn't use branches or carvings either

>>150256973
Why do you need it?

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>>150257232
Unforgivable!

Jesus christ I only just found out that you can charge R2 attacks.
I feel so god damn stupid.
Please tell me DS3 is the first game to do this.

>>150257231
It's not that one. I must keep it a secret because he might summon me with spite next time if he knows who I am.

>>150257293
>Please tell me DS3 is the first game to do this.
BB did it first.

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>>150257293

How viable are warden twinblades and rouge right now? Did their absurd bleed stacking get nerfed?

>>150257382
>>150257387
Oh thank god. I would have felt terrible if it were in DS1/2 all along.

>>150257232
N-no...that can't be!

>>150257554
He might not even parry spam, the monster

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Wheres the FC at!

>>150257480
Yes. They're pretty trash, you need to catch people with two L1->WA combos to bleed them and their terrible reach, horrendously limited moveset and awful damage are too big of detriments even with rouge. They were solidly low-mid tier weapons when they could instantbleed, now they're just trash. Their actual per-hit damage was balanced around the fact that they could guarantee bleed. Now that they can't, they hit like daggers with nothing to make up for it.

Can someone give me a hand on the dancer?

Ps4
Pass: dsg
Outside Dancer's room

>>150257817
Fuck, I really wanted to use them. What's the bleed build now, then? Back to bandit dagger and quickstep?

>>150257480
They still bleed people in a L1 L2 R2 combo for about ~800 damage.

The problem is the lack of range and bad running attacks.

They're still excellent for punishing estus. They're just not so broken anymore.

>>150257898
>>150257779
give him enough (You)s and 212 will generally host one in demon ruins if you don't mind the memes

>invade O&S cosplay in the catacombs
>they're both ridiculously tanky for low level characters and doing retarded damage, but also both really fucking bad
>Ornstein turns on the speedhack when they're losing and murders me with attacks so fast that his animations desync as the game can't keep up
>check their stats afterwards
>both were 99 in everything with +5 weapons at level 40.

>>150258004
im already at demon ruins reee

>>150256892
>Quality giving you the best of almost every melee weapon is nothing new.
No, but in DaS1 you would get better damage getting 30 Faith to buff your weapon. In DaS2 there were passive miracles worth investing for, magic gave you important defensive bonuses, and adaptability was a stat tax.

In DaS3 the Soul Level meta is probably just too high.

>>150258017
lol dude its boss cosplay chill -_-

>>150258004
What memes?

>>150258186
Stupid shit, like constantly poking you with an unupgraded saint bident he doesn't have the stats for

unnecessary spamming warmth

shooting you with bows he doesnt have requirements for etc

>>150257948
The best weapons at bleeding are:
Carthus Curved Sword + rouge
2kat + rouge (L1->WA->L1 combo)
Claws + rouge (WA +L1+L1)

And that's about it. 2kat and Claws have the same WA and it has full hyperarmor (stronger than an ultraweapon), instantly staggers at close range, breaks any HA and does huge damage while also building a massive amount of bleed and staggering into guaranteed followup attacks to always instantbleed. You can fish with it since literally nothing in the game can out-trade it, and 2kat can combo into off a standing L1 for a 3-input combo that does like 1600 damage.

>>150258017
>this fag thinking he could beat O&S on his first try

what music do you listen to while PVPing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVrVhoDeXFM

>>150257382
Ok so yes DS3 is the first game to do this.
Console exclusives don't exist

>>150258390
comfy beats

https://soundcloud.com/chillanimebeats/sets/chillanimebeats

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>>150258070
The same is true in DaS2 as DaS1. Quality is the best for pure damage and viability. Magic is for variety. DaS2 was just garbage and not worth mentioning.

Just you could drop 30+ points into faith and buff your weapon with DMB, but then I could just spite kite you until it ran out, and you would do even less damage.

>>150258421
>Console exclusives don't exist
Your tears are delicious.

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>>150258390
Nothing pumps me up more than gangsta' shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ode1XGXlPOI

>>150258004
i have to go to the store but after that, sure

>>150258341
Thanks for the advice, pal. Gonna respec and try out both the 2kat and claws when I get home. Really appreciate it.

Was wondering why my twinblades were so bad suddenly.

>>150258390
Used to be my Bloodborne jam, but it fits just as well in 3.
During the beginning part, I like to imagine discarding a washing pole from my inventory, just to get in the right mood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3UiKh9gLko

>>150256412
I loved switching between 1 and 2 hands with that thing. It looks amazing and plays well too, I kinda wanna play BB again now.

>>150258390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHEFgPUuaw0

>>150256412
>Playing Bloodborne
>Not using a bloodtinge build for maximum rooty tooty spam

cowadoody inna dark souls literally the only good thing about bb

>>150258390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8AY3gGei0

>>150258390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw13TPEDyXg

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>>150258390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6n0XsiX_QQ
i usually don't even listen to music while pvping because it feels like it's disrupting my concentration

Are luck builds fun? Thinking about starting a new character with a luck/Dex build

so im in the undead burg. so far I see no messages left by players at all?

I'm currently human.

>>150259189
What concentration do you even need to pvp in souls games? It requires the less amount of actions per minute in a player vs player game.

Any tips for getting SotFS to run in a true full screen, borderless mode? The in game settings aren't working and seeing my ugly task bar and the window box are seriously going to fuck with the experience. This wasn't a problem with PtDE.

>>150259330
concentration may have been a bad choice of words; i'd rather say it disrupts my focus

feels like i'll make more mistakes with something blaring in the background as opposed to nothing

>>150259330
I don't use music so I can hear sound cues and dodge some attacjs without looking, like when running away.

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>it's a host has 600 HP at Dragonslayer Armour episode

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>>150258995
>Using Bloodtinge for guns

shitter

>>150259260
I'm having loadsa fun with it. Using hollow weapons focused on bleed stacking.

At least, it's way more fun than miracles which are utter shit, or sorc who can't pvp.

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>>150259481

>it's a fighting someone with less then 600 health at SL100 Pontiff episode

>it will be one month starting tomorrow since the last actual balance patch
pretty tired of this pos game

>>150259342
You can change a few settings by going to AppData/Roaming/DarkSoulsII, there's a file called GraphConfigs_SOFS. Hope this helps.

>>150258995
Str is more fun for PvE, and Skl is better for PvP.

Anyone willing to help me with Ocerios?

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>>150259695

>they made an actual full patch, not one of the regulation updates, just to fix the Tears of Denial skip
>literally nothing else between now and the last patch

>>150259260
dex/luck is basically what you think of pure dex as in every other souls game.

Dex weapons are basically quality weapons that require luck as their second stat instead of strength, and thus also require the hollow infusion.

As a playthrough, it's dull trite shit as your build is essentially pure dex, and thus pure shit for 80% of the game until you get the profaned coal. Even then, there's 2 guaranteed hollow gem pickups per NG cycle, and a 3rd through trading eleonora to the crows. Every single other hollow gem requires farming.

>>150259694
>guy invades
>dies in two hits
>invades again
>just let him kill me because he's a lost cause

>>150259695
>>150259915
The DLC that's being announced next week is going to be an entire DLC dedicated to balance.

>yfw it actually adds no new content, just fixes the game a la sotfs

>>150260091
>dlc
>being announced next week
rofl no

>>150260091
>next week
TGS isn't for 43 or so days anon

>>150260195
You think they're going to wait until september to release anything related to the dlc?

>>150260293
Same as all the other times yes

>>150259970
Or you just kill Anri.

>>150259873
sure

FIGHT CLUB WHEN

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>Go to Pontiff
>Check first three signs
>CSS
>WP + duel Katana's
>Gottards

another day in good ol' DaS3

>>150260810
On Playstation, I'll wait outside his room

Pass is dsg

>taking apart a 4-man squad solo
Absolutely no better feeling.

dee ehl sea when

>>150260941
Well done, anon.

>>150260941
How? Were they retarded?
Even one hit taken will interrupt your combo and get you killed. How do you do it with 2 people, let alone 4?

>>150260898
I'm on PC. Sorry m8

>>150260941
Did you make sure that you killed the area boss with CE before you vanished?

pc fightclub?????

>>150261089
Not him, but I use the enemies to my advantages and watch for my opponents to leave and opening then I strike at that weakness.

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ALRIGHT YOU FUCKING NIGGERS

IT'S TIME FOR THE OFFICIAL /dsg/ SMOULDERING LAKE PC FC™

GET THE FUCK IN HERE Please place your signs down on top of the rocky knoll between the staircase that leads to the Old Demon King foggate and the Worm Water, thank you!

>>150261089
2 man ganks are harder than 3-4 man gangsquads because most of the time they get cocky, block each other, and do stupid shit. 2 mans can be harder IMO because one is usually gonna try and backstab you or use WA or some other silly shit. Or you could be playing against non shitters that just straight up roll over you.

>>150261326
You don't even have psplus.

>>150261235
I give up, I can't figure out how to do it, back to BCing when they seed

>the fugsman is here

god i love you sam. why did you sign disappear ree

>>150261089
Profaned Capital, in the area with the toxic swamp.
I sniped at with obscuring ring and greatarrows when they tried to hide on the wooden platform overlooking the area and the phantoms all charged me while the host stayed back on the safety of his platform.
I knocked one off as he came up the ladder and fall damage killed him, killed the second with a plunging attack while he was fighting the leg-creatures and then finished the along with the mobs while he was mired in the swamp. Then I ran back up the ladder, circled around through the church with WoG and cut off the host before he could make it back to the tower.

Obscuring Ring best ring. They had no idea what hit 'em.

>>150261426
That doesn't mean I have never had it.

>>150261326
Nice that your opponents are dumb enough to run into enemies instead of waiting in a safe spot for you to attack.

As for openings, I can imagine roll poking constantly would work in a 2v1, but that would take a long time and wouldn't work in a 4v1.

If your opponents have more than one brain cell to rub together, they'll kill you.

>>150261612
That means you fought shitters that were new at the game, therefore irrelevant.

>>150261589
Accidentally had the white sign down

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>>150261378
Hello?

>>150261604
Ah, they were retarded, then. You capitalized on that very nicely, well done.

>>150261735
wrong spot senpai

>>150261735
Wrong spot mang- signs go on the little hill of rocks between worm spawn and old demon kang

>>150261635
>Nice that your opponents are dumb enough to run into enemies instead of waiting in a safe spot for you to attack.

Is this your first day in /dsg/? I am legendarily stubborn. I don't need to be lucky for them to come at me, bro. I will just sit in front of the boss fog forever if I need to.

I take up one invader slot, and lock the host out of using the bonfire, so eventually they will get bored and come after me or other invaders will eventually whittle the host down until he is near death, has no estus, and the next invader will kill him. That or he can pull the plug and risk a soft ban.

>>150261664
>/dsg/ scrubs actually believe this

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>>150261735

I kinda miss DS1 PvP but strength weapons are so much better in ds2 and shield breaks are a thing as well.

Shame for soul memory tho.

How is ds3?

>>150262227
Imagine DaS1 without backstabs or poise, but where everyone has a free dwgr

>>150262227
wait until the DLC

you'll end up getting too frustrated with the way the game is

>>150262227
DaS3 is worse than DaS1 but insanely better than DaS2.

>forgot I can't parry with left-handed weapon in DaS2
>have to get used to the different parry system again

ugh

>>150262334
>needing an offhand parry in das2

the only exception for this is fume since it's the only weapon i've ever used that doesn't have a parry when 2h

I really wish the longsword was held like it was in DaS2.

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>>150252614

Don't bully.

>>150262061
IIRC you took 2 months to finish the game. Which means you never fought someone at meta level. Which means you have literally nothing to stand your argument. Kindly know your place, shitter. You're nothing.

http://psnprofiles.com/trophies/4477-DARK-SOULS-III/DesecratedFlame

>>150262458
Those two months I was spending all my time invading gank squads in the Catacombs and the Cathedral. We aren't talking about duels, kiddo.

the jojoposter is either vincent, zilrael of londor, or straylight

>>150262431
I don't normally two-hand a weapon, but Fume was one of the swords I was going to use. I'll just have to use my bare fist I guess since I hate shields. I just remember the parry windows being nonsense in DaS2

>>150262580
>I only invade at sub meta level to avoid the good players
Confirming even more that you're trash.

>>150262609
Parrying is a casual's mechanic with a high skill floor but extremely low skill ceiling

parry once and you've parried them all

>>150262692
Doesn't that goal post get heavy?

>>150262801
oh course not friend, I'm 212

after SL200 there is no longer any downscaling, especially since I have 2100 HP

>>150262743
You're the one who pointed out that you invade in earlier areas clearly avoiding the pvp spots, therefore avoiding the good players. Nice on you though. I got 699 tongues invading at SL50 in these same areas you pointed out, a braindead child can kill hosts in the catacombs, which would probably explain your success in invasions.

>>150262741
Yeah true. I'll just have to practice a little more to get it right.

On another note, is sorcery any good or any fun in DaS2? I always do melee and while I got partway through a sorcerer run a few years ago, I was away from the game too long and couldn't pick it back up. I was thinking of doing a sorcery/pyro mix

>>150258598
>but then I could just spite kite you until it ran out
This is true but uncommon in PVP. Most people want the match to end quickly. Also, 40 Dex Uchi or Falchion without a buff was at a disadvantage against a 27/40 claymore, but not an insurmountable one. A lot of weapons didn't benefit that much from additional Dex or Str investment anyways.

DaS2 PVP is worth mentioning imo, even if the PVE was forgettable. It was flawed but all Souls games had flawed PVP.

>>150263028
You gotta try out hexes man.

I personally like DaS2 hexes more than any other magic gameplay in any other game aside from Fable 2

>>150263028
>good
It's viable. You hit hard. You don't need auxiliary damage boosts.
>fun
Depends on how you play. You won't have much fun if you just spam soul arrows.

I would rather go hexer. You get to cast every class and hexes are fun.
Black Witch Staff is sorely missed.

Can someone put down a sign infront of the champ

I just cannot

good fucking god there are a SHIT TON of you wanting to pvp tonight

i've never seen so many goddamn signs at a /dsg/ event before

>>150263221
platform, password?

>>150263221
Take this chance to learn how to parry him. It will be fun.

>>150263298
Ps4, dsg

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>>150263130
>2

That's a typo right

Fable 2 has some of the worst magic controls ever put in a vidya

Going from having 6 magic slots in 1 to ONE was a horrible choice

>>150262973
Kek. keep moving that goal post. Also the Cathedral was a PvP hot spot. The room with the bonfire was packed full of red signs.

>>150263073
>This is true but uncommon in PVP.
Not really. People want to win. If they are using a pure physical setup, and you are using a DMB painted guardian sword then they are at a massive disadvantage. On the other hand, if they just kite it out, and you can't re-cast it then they now have the upper hand.

Nah, Soul Memory ruined PvP. The later patches made it even worse.

>>150263298
if it isn't mentioned, it's PC senpai

this is a given rule

>>150263362
Nah, I mean 2. I fucking loved that simple ass system and the way you could charge your magic. God I loved the absolute hell out of it

>This fucking winged angel cosplayer in the FC

you're really good with that halberd dude. are you erik???

>>150263130
>>150263205
>spam soul arrows

lol how else are you supposed to play when there's like 8 soul arrow spells.

I had thought about hexes but wasn't sure I wanted to deal with Faith too as well as needing Chimes. I'm just doing PvE as I'm mainly trying to finish achievements. Unless there's certain spells in particular I need to try

>>150263287
>events

It's just a FC

boh is blowing me the fuck out

i need to shake this rust off

>>150263287
Lol this is nothing. Last time I hosted there were like 10 active people

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>>150263130

>>150262596
>ever considering Vincent

>>150262973
I can't. I keep getting gank squads and rekt. Guess I'm not good enough.

>>150262921
Maybe if I get a bigger weapon it will reach your player model when I swing?

>>150263628
I truly dislike Dragon Dogma's magic from what I'm seeing in this webm.

It seems to me that those dramatic casting animations would detract from combat.

it also looks overpowered. no thanks

>>150263578
>59 different people
>10 signs
hot damn

>>150263825
They are powerful but have long cast times. Less powerful spells can be fired off more quickly. It's actually really well balanced.

>>150259330
>It has less actions, therefore you don't need to concentrate because actions cannot have significant consequences

>>150263991
Exactly, unless you need to concentrate to dodge second long animations.