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One Night in Zeriyah edition

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://tempostorm.com
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/
https://manacrystals.com/
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/category/analysis/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

Old thread >>150076114
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>>150114759
Post Zeriyah lewds
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love it :^)
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First for Standard is shit.
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xth for Mage sure needed good Arena cards, glad they're getting some.
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5th for why the fuck does councilman have 5 health
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>>150115019
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>rogue classic cards got nerfed to shit
>d-don't worry that just means they can release good cards for rogue now!
>karazhan comes out
>rogue gets nothing but gimmicky steal bullshit

IT'S NOT FAIR ROGUEBROS
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>>150115136
>1 of 3 cards released
>ROGUE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING WAH
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>>150115136
one card has been revealed you fucking autist
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>>150115335
>replying to weebs
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>>150115136
at least miracle is almost viable again

r-right?
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how long did it take for the game to get stale after whispers came out?

how fast will it go to shit after the new adventure?
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Snacks#1801
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>>150115623
it is viable you garbage retard
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>>150115641

About a week and a half.

36 hours.
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>>150114865
xth for arena is shit
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>>150115752
tier 2 is not viable friend
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>>150115623
>tfw bought the "miracle is good again!" hype at the start of WotG

RIP dust
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>>150115668
added you, nero
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>>150115768
yth for this game is shit
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Any obvious changes I should make? No room for hoarders, gotta play the 1 drops for tempo.
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>>150115813
why do you post
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>>150115019
Because it would be fucking worthless otherwise
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>>150115901

If you're going full control, you don't need tempo 1 drops.

Drop Selfless Heroes, pick up Doomsayers.
Drop Acolyte, pick up Solemn Vigil
Find room for Ysera in there somewhere.
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>>150115019
Because aggro minions must always be overstatted to keep the mindless playstyle afloat. It's the only way to compensate for the lack of braincells of aggro players.
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>>150116124
>full control
There are no decks on ladder that can beat N'Zoth Paladin in value, unless you run into the unicorn Priest.

Paladin only needs to stay alive, not play greedy shit. You either play divine shield shit like squires, horseriders, and the 3 mana weapon for tempo, or do what I did and experiment with shit like dragons. The meta isn't slow enough for the garbage doomsayer/vigil/humility/ greed Paladin to work.
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why is soggoth the slitherer not immune to spells that damage 'all' minions, despite them still being fucking spells

god i hate that shit
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>>150116124
Also, if you're gonna give advice about netdecking, at least give good advice. No one fucking plays Ysera in this meta, it's too slow even for fucking greedy control decks.
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I'm glad Anduin is on life support
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>>150116546
it just says targeted

it's pretty consistent
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>>150116546
because it reads "can't be targeted by ..." and not "is immune to ..."
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>>150116546
What? Read the card, he's not supposed to be immune, just untargetable
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that feel when you lose enough ranks and finally start winning again
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>>150116614
the entire game is on life support
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>>150116546
>>150116648
>>150116685
>>150116721
why doesn't divine shield protect against polymorph
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>lifecoach playing on NA for easy blizz con points
L U L
U L U
L U L
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why do people BM against my shitty jank priest deck when they're winning with a tier one deck? why do people have to be faggots when i'm trying to have fun?
>dragon warrior plays rag
>HEH GREETINGS
>HEH GREETINGS
>HEH GREETINGS
>ASTONISHING!
>ASTONISHING!
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>>150117003
Because divine shield just ignores the first instance of damage?
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>>150117003
arcane fuel can melt divine beams
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>>150117090
stop playing petdecks then you fucking shitter lmao
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>>150117090
We're just tryng to be friendly
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>Go back to Duelyst to check if they toned down the aggro to distinguish themselves a bit from shitstone
>They went full retard and practically removed control from the game, every game ends in 2 minutes tops
Yep, guess every fucking CCG from now til eternity will copy everything Blizzard does and make the game entirely tempo and aggro based to retain the attention span of the retards.

Why the fuck can't Wizards or Konami stop being fucking retards and make a functional online client? They're literally the only ones who didn't design the entire game around aggro playstyles and 1 minute long games.
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>>150117090
>play a renounce deck
>dragon warriors and zoolocks spam well played

i dont know why this is
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>>150116828
>tfw beating new players with p2w decks
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>>150117219
>Wizards or Konami
They make more than enough with their printed games.
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>>150117003
why would it? divine shield protects against damage, which polymorph doesn't do
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>>150117090
netdeckers always have an undeserved sense of superiority

>you tried doing something new? didn't work against me and my reynad netdeck lmao u suck
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rate my deck
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>>150117167
>actually defending people acting like that

>>150117219
RIP DN. I never realized how much I loved it, until I couldn't use it anymore. I hate LGS and they are all smelly
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>>150117219
>konami
hasn't yugioh gotten so powercreeped that games end on turn0-1 depending on opening hand?
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>>150117363
so you intentionally made the class with the least removal have half as much removal

so that you could get 1 more heal in a class with the most heals
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>>150117380
No, it's normally a pretty medium game length bc permissions and counters unless someone has a blowout hand

It is super fucking power creeper though
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>>150117295
>Suits
>Every settling for "enough"
Don't the fucking retarded shareholders and suit always wanna copy what's popular and successful? Why the fuck don't they turn their attention to HS? They already have the mechanics, and brand recognition All they need is to design a fucking platform to sell overpriced digital packs.
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>>150117492
the deck usually has forbidden healing but i dont have that card
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>>150117380
Turn 1 wins have been a thing from like the second year of the game's life. Almost every format had them, and they were never that big of a problem. Consistent ones almost always got emergency banlisted, or at most got hit the next ban list.

The problem with the YGO powercreep is the fucking free special summoning, and more and more cards that can't be removed by anything, other than none targeting, none destroying, removal (stealing, banishing, bouncing).
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>>150117571
You forget that those people are really risk averse. Why take the risk of losing your paper print profits to some digital format where you have no experience?
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>>150111747
>very first Yogg I summon draws me 7~ cards, then casts Astral Communion
Wew
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>>150117729
>>150117363
>Picks literally the worst class for Reno and C'Thun and puts both of them in
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is this okay?
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>>150118446
>faceless
for what purpose
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>>150118281
I win games because they don't expect it
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>>150118446
good for ruining the game you fucking faggot. please uninstall
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>>150118446
Faceless but no emp
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>>150118446

-1 Faceless

+1 Sea Giant
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What's the best BM emote for each class?

Rogue
>The pleasure is mine
Paladin
>Well met!
Mage
>???
Priest
>Wow...
Shaman
>That's incredible!
Warrior
>Heh, my thanks
Hunter
>???
Warlock
>???
Druid
>???
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>6 wins arena
>SIX WINS
>Druid plays druid of the sabre (2 health)
>Hero powers
>Attacks my explosive sheep
>A natural mistake...
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>>150117219
the game mechanic that everyone likes least (the lands) is largely what balances aggro and control
devs say "wow lands must be awful, we should just remove those from the equation and everyone will be happy"
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>>150118936
>Mage
Hello
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>>150118936
Greetings, traveler and Spectular!
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>>150118936
>warrior
He, greetings
> mage
Hello
> warlock
I greet you
> druid
SPECTACULAR!
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what legendary should I get when I dust gold lord jaraxxus? I already have a sylvannas
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>>150119220
>Druid
>Not "hmm well played"
I can still hear the fucking sound of angry trees whenever I hear that emote.
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>>150119262
Rag?
Leeroy
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>>150119262

Rag
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>>150119262
Rag can be thrown into pretty much any deck, Yogg is chaotic fun in some decks, Ysera is a necessity for Priest.
There's shit loads of choices really, what class do you mainly play?
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What do I change to kit out this deck for wild?
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>>150118936
Mage
>I'm Sorry
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>>150119539
>open collection
>think about what you want your deck to do
>look at naxx and gvg cards
>find ones that do that
>use them to replace your worst cards
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Lemme just blogpost right here.
>Tfw you're 55 wins and 4 losses in the past 59 arena games and serious queue anxiety kicks in.
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>>150119539
I play ramp yshaarj druid and zoolock because its cheap
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>>150119539
Dr. Boom
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>>150118936
>tfw you greet someone with Rogue before killing them with your face
>A recent opponent would like to be your friend
Every time.
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>>150120093
>tfw I just did this five times in arena
lets go for 7, just me and assassin's blade
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i almost rage added someone cuz they were roping half their turns playing dragon warrior

time to take a break
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>6 wins as a druid rewards
>plain common
Fuck this game
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>>150115641
I had a lot of fun for the first time in a long time playing this game when wotg came out. 2 weeks later everything went back to zoo as usual and fun was killed. Thats about how this game goes.
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So often I'll go 15 cards straight without finding either arcane intellect, and I'll just be playing whatever I topdeck. So I really need some ways of putting cards into my hand as mage I think.

What should I go for? I tried Acolyte of Pain, but with my only self damage ability being the hero power, it's 5 mana for a one card draw that turn, with maybe one more card later.

Is there some other method of drawing cards I could be using? no dust for Thalnos
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>>150120704
Finley into warlock hero power :^)
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>>150120704
if you're playing tempo you should probably just play tome.
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>>150120704
Acolyte is still what you need to use, and it's not just a 5 mana draw 1 card. You play it on turn 3, usually regardless of whats going on. It turns into a 3 mana draw 1 card opponent must immediately deal with it.
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>>150120704
Do you have Azure Drakes?
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>complete play vs friend quest
>dont get gold

why does ben brode do this?
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>>150119775
I lost. I knew I should never believe in myself.
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>>150121335
did you get over the limit? How many time did you do that quest today? I think its 3 time max
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>>150121454
Just retire. You're not good enough.
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>>150121047
I don't have any tomes
But maybe creating cards instead is a good way to go, Ethereal Conjurer could probably be thrown in somewhere for a similar use.

>>150121162
Alright, I'll stick with him a while. Should I be using one or two of them in the deck?

>>150121175
Both, but every now and then they screw me too.
Maybe I'm just bad
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>>150121536
I did it 4 times and got the gold

did not get it on the 5th
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>>150121785
Wait are you playing a yogg-less tempo mage in standard? If you're not playing yogg, I wouldn't even play tempo unless you're in wild with that sweet unstable portal/flamecannon action/mad scientist action
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>>150121335
The person that owns the quest is the one that have to invite the friend to the duel.
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>>150122275
I know this my friend got the gold from his quest he had it

I did not
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>People genuinely think Malchezaar's Imp will not see play

It will and it will make zoo ridiculous again mark my words
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Bear Dude here, Making Bear cards after trying to play Casual Overwatch on Xbox

Was literally just me saving the game as Symmettra and getting gold medal on kills with the ONLY time playing Anna because we NEEDED... It was fucking Essential... that our team not have a Tank but to have TWO McCrees.

I swear, I should have gone PC if it wasn't for the fact it is the only way I can help my cousin with the loss of his mum.
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*starts to sweat*

Do you guys think i can beat my 7-0 record?
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>>150123160
It is already ridiculous and it has never stopped being that way
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Naxx: 54 cards
BRM: 57 cards
LoE: 85 cards
Kara: 45 cards

We're getting punked!
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>>150123386
you can because I believe in you
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>>150123415
LoE was 85 cards...?
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>>150123362

Also, What is a better effect to have.

Mechanic is a card that replaces your deck with Furbolgs. Basically 9 mana for replacing your deck with stronger cards with lower mana at a cost of getting a random effect when you draw a card.

Should the effect be random anytime you draw or should the specific card have the effect?

Also looking to make these guys into Legendaries that give you Furbolgs and shove them in your deck. No other way to get them, Gotta go full bear!
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>>150123415
Check again those numbers.
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>>150123415
>Naxx: 54 cards
>BRM: 57 cards
>LoE: 85 cards
[citation needed]
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Mark my words, Barnes is new shredder. Every deck on ladder has a shitload of minions that give more than 2 mana worth of value.

Imp Gangboss, Councilman, Acolyte, taunt minions (1/1 taunt + 4/3 is better than Senjin), Flametongue, Manatide, Tunnel Trogg, deathrattle minions (Highmane, Tirion, Cairne, Sylv can win you the game on the spot) , C'Thun (can get buffed), Rag, Fandral, Gadgetzan, spell power minions (MalyGOD, but Drake and Thalnos are good too), Antonidas, Flamewaker, Mana Wyrm, apprentice.

That's off top of my head, and these cards are all staples of their class on ladder right now. At worst Barnes breaks even and is just yeti stats spread out, which most decks would rather have for extra stickiness, buff synergy, and token synergy.
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>>150123415
If you are going to count duplicates , Kara is going to be also 85 cards approx.
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>>150123827
Barnes is a spoopy fucker. Better keep an eye on him.
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>>150117219
>every game ends in 2 minutes tops

S-ranked Duelyst player here. What are you talking about? I hardly see any Aggro and I mostly play Kara. Unlike Hearthstone, there are plently of counters in Duelyst if you try to rush the opponent.

On top of that, they're going to release a huge anti-aggro card this month. It's a neutral Ravaging Ghoul. You're doing something wrong if you have problems with Aggro in Duelyst of all games.
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>>150123415
>this retard
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>>150123415
LoE was 45 cards and the others were around 30
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>>150123827
>Barnes pulls tirion and outright wins the game there
Esports you were just outskilled :^)
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>>150124259
I'm pretty sure the guy in the picture was being purposely sarcastic/ironic, as most meme spoutin' shitposters tend to do on 4chan.

Even if he was underage, there is a shitload of porn available on the internet to help understand the female anatomy. Unless it was literally his first time on the internet with very religious parents who thinks anything sexual is something touched by the devil.
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>>150123827
People have already determined he's probably an auto include in most decks.
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>>150123547
Thank you for believing in me anon
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>>150123827
That's like saying mindgames is overpowered because it can pull a full statted Ragnaros for 4 mana.

You people are legitimately unintelligent.
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>>150125125
Mindgames doesn't give you guaranteed decent 4 mana minion value and two bodies
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>>150125125
Oh man you're bad. I can smell it on you.
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>>150125125
Are you seriously comparing Mindgames to Barnes?

With Barnes you are GUARANTEED to get 4/5 worth of stats, not including if the minon copied has a good effect. Mindgames has a chance of getting a low cost minion or a high cost one, and even then you might get a minion that doesn't synergise with your deck like Doomsayer, for example.

Barnes is even good if you just get a 1/1 with no other effects, since it's basically a Yeti. But if it does get a good effect (Like getting a 1/1 Sylvanas, 1/1 Cairne, 1/1 Rag, 1/1 Tirion, etc) you gain a huge tempo advanatage.

You are legitimately unintelligent.
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>>150125125
t. angry chicken
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>>150125317
>Volazj is playable even if he doesn't get a great battlecry because the 1/1s still make him worth six mana

Remember when people said that one too? Having a board setup isn't what makes him bad, it's the fact that 1/1s are worthless, even in the best of situations. See also: shadowcaster.
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>>150114864
Its murloc apreciaton day?
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>>150125560
Volazj would be good if priest had good minions. It does not, if Barnes was a priest exclusive he'd be utter shit.
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>>150125560
you have to setup a worthy Volazj though, you cant play Sylvanas/Cairne/Rag on the same turn AND copy them, Barnes can do that shit with only 4 mana and requires no setup
theres the difference, same deal with Shadowcaster
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>>150125560
No, it's bad because you have to have a board in play- making a win more card. Same with shadowcaster. I can't even be sure if you're just trying to rustle my Jimmies because I'm having a hard time accepting that somebody can be this bad at the game.
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>>150125762
This faggot should have been 4/3
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>>150125762
I posted that pic and I've actually been playing my murloc pally all day. Boy do I love memes!
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>>150125560
Volazj requires a board to be setup. Barnes doesn't.

>it's the fact that 1/1s are worthless

Tell me that later when you get a 1/1 Sylvanas that the opponent has to play around, or a 1/1 Tirion even. You're not playing Barnes for the extra 1/1, you're playing him to get a 1/1 with a good effect.

> See also: shadowcaster.
I see you didn't meme it up by making Shadowcaster copies of Reno, Blade of C'thuns or other strong Battlecry minions. Getting a 1 Mana: Heal yourself to full health is strong as fuck. But like Volazj, it also requires a bit of setup (Albiet much less than Volazj).

I'm going to screencap your post and shitpost once Kara is out to show you how much a retard you were.
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>>150126052
nah , he is pretty ok
>>150126073
they are pretty good , i feel like yugi when i am almost to lose and get the murloc day!
thats why i am in 14
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>>150125762
I loved that little fucker before they nerfed him by adding all those shitty murlocs, lowering the chances of OP opie.
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>>150125935
>>150125954
>>150126003
>>150126082

I'm telling you guys that board setup isn't what makes these cards bad and you're immediately countering with something we've already established is false.

A 3/4 for 4 is too much of a loss unless the 1/1 is absolutely perfect. It's a swing with too big a chance to miss for it to be worth it. Expect to see people running him in every deck for a month (maybe just past the end of Karazhan) and then dropping him when the novelty wears off.
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>>150126309
but he is cute!!!1!
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>>150124259
you never get tired of posting that image do you?
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>>150126334
>A 3/4 for 4 is too much of a loss unless the 1/1 is absolutely perfect.

Not it's not you dense motherfucker, since you're still geting a Yeti worth of stats.

>It's a swing with too big a chance to miss for it to be worth it.
You're just paying 1/1 worth of stats for that "swing". How is that big?
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>>150126192
I'm in 14 because my pc was broken until a few days ago, and hearthstone on my phone is so shit
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>>150126438
sounds like someones butt is injured
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>>150126334
Ok. I believe you anon. You seem like you know exactly what you're talking about.
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>>150126309
>>150126404
>They nerf the shit out of a 6 drop by adding all these trash drops
>They don't do shit to nerf Shaman's 3 mana 3/2 battlecry: summon Totem Golem, Flametongue, or Manatide.
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>>150126496
Muster doesn't give 4/7 of stats

Boom doesn't give 17/9

That isn't, and can't be, how stats are tabulated.

>>150126715
See you in a month, chumparooni
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barnes is just a card for faggot zoo players, wait and see
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>>150126947
zoo isnt going to play that shit, it does nothing to help you trade
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barnes is a freeze mage card retards
turn 4 is so bad for freeze

going to drop novices and add an acolyte and play otherwise standard torch and wreck

the meta quivers as we speak
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>>150126947
what? So they can get a 1/1 flame imp?
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>>150126912
>Muster doesn't give 4/7 of stats

Not, if you gives you 3 1/1's. It's esentially a 3/3 but in three bodies. The reason it's hard to deal with is that you have to attack three times unless you have AOE, which is why it's beast in Arena.

>Boom doesn't give 17/9
No, where did you get this from? Boom is a 9/9 for 7 mana. That's the primary reason why Dr. Boom is such a strong card, since it gives you a 9/9 worth of stats for 7 mana.

Barnes is essentially a 4/5 because you add a 1/1 + a 3/4 to make a 4/5. At worst Barnes breaks even and is just yeti stats spread out, which most decks would rather have for extra stickiness, buff synergy, and token synergy.

Stop being a retard, anon.
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>>150127185
1/1 knife juggler or angry jew wouldn't be bad
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Opinions? Note that you 'Cannot' draft this card in Arena or discover it in a pack. It is put into your deck by Card effect. It is one of many I am making
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>>150127438
retard
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>>150126831
>The removal of cards has only made the totemcaller better
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>>150127185
or a 1/1 taunt, divine shield, imp gang boss, doomguard, possessed villager and other cancer
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>There are people that think Barnes is shit
Most of you are assuming that by saying it will played on turn 4. Barnes will be an excellent late game card, just wait and see.
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>>150127649
Dat 1/1 councilman who comes into play as a 2/1. Mmmmm.
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>>150127865
It's also good on turn 4 for just curving out.
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>>150126947
What should it replace?
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>>150127438
You fucking idiot this card is horrendously overpowered.

Take your OC shit to /trash/, for fuck's sake.
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>>150127865
You're an even bigger retard than they are. Barnes is a tempo a card, all combo gimmick shit that will try building around it will suck. Zoo and Hunter will make the most out of it by getting even more sticky impossible to remove trash.

It's also good for Paladin, since this fucking class can't get anything to stick on board to save its life before they start dropping the high cost deathrattles.
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>>150127438
It's meaningless to post this without showing the card that places it in the deck.
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>>150128002
Knife Juggler also gets a juggler when copied by Barnes :^)

Totally not an aggro that will enable more sticky, impossible to remove trash though ;^)
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>>150127865
yeah 75% of hearthstone games are just who curves out better.

>>150127257
im really loving reading "the primary reason why dr. boom is such a strong card is 9/9 for 7 mana" . this is so wrong, especially considering the era where dr boom was played (3 mana bgh)

dr boom was ridiculous solely because of dumb boom bot rng. no one played big dumb cards because of the tempo swing bgh would give. even if dr boom was bgh'ed he absolutely eviscerated your board with retard boom bot rng and had huge impact. imfuckingpossible to deal with
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>>150128182
>all combo gimmick shit that will try building around it will suck

100% true. If you look at it closely, it looks like a good Combo card, but it's not. When it was first revealed, people imagined insane combos with Malygod or Velen. The thing is, those minions must be in your deck and not in your hand. Combo decks are also known for drawing an insane amount of combos so they can actually do stuff, so it's actually anti-synergistic.
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>>150128180

Here is the main spell to transform all your cards for it. I'll post the two Lego's as well.

I am making a full 'Master post' of BEARS! but the thing is that I need to know what kind of power should these cards have IF they are placed in your deck WAY into the late game.
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Is this bitch worth it for Malfurion?
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>>150128620
I hope there are furbolgs that actually do something the turn you play this card or else it's a 9 mana lose the game.
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>>150128489
Yeah, I forgot to mention that. Dr. Boom is a 9/9 worth of Stats for 7 Mana with a really good ability that simple can't be played around due to RNG. Even so, Dr. Boom is still a 9/9 worth of stats, which is the point I'm trying to make.
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>>150128620

Think of it this way, You are giving up all your minions for Random minions with somewhat lower costs and higher effects that may or may not hurt you when you draw them.

Or you are putting them one at a time in your deck until you draw one like it's a Golden Monkey.
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>>150121335
neither player can concede, or else you don't get the gold
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>>150128539
people will play it in combo decks with 2~ combo minions because most of the time it's a yeti spread out over two minions that draws you a card, say about 1/10th of the time it's a game winning thaurissan proc, and another 1/10ths its a garbage 1/1 alexstraza or something

completely depends on what combos being played and how trash your turn 4 is.
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>>150128796

That is the thing, I want to make Really insane strong cards... But I don't want people to flip out because they see a '6 mana 8/8' and scream out "HOLY FUCK YOU RETARD, POWER CREEP."

>>150128818
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>>150128982
friend who had quest got gold
other person didnt

its a known issue
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>Shaman faggot plays Doomhammer
>I topdeck Harrison
That belong in a museum.
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>>150128993
it does not draw you a card
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>Morgl's BM game is poor he's not even worth using

Welp, maybe Tyrande will come out soon and have some F2P path to unlocking her.
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what the fuck is all this stupid bullshit about this "Barnes" card?
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>>150129595
>Tyrande
I think you mean Monara
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>>150129610
use google
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>>150129610
It's an average-to-mediocre card people are shitposting about being good.
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>>150129610
4 mana 3/4 summon a random minion from your deck and make it 1/1

its a meme card that will only be viable in gimmick p2w decks
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>>150129610
It's a new Hearthstone card funded by Barnes & Noble
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that rogue card is actually a rehab warlock card
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>>150129293
it does when it hits 55% of the cards you've tailored in your combo deck

1x thalnos 2x aco 2x hoarder 2x doom 1x thaur 1x alex

def playable but probably not better than novices
game would have to slow down
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>>150129875
it's a nigger card for nigger zoo players
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>>150126073
this game is just so easy
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>>150130006
zoo cannot afford to waste 4 mana doing nothing

dark iron dwarf is better 9/10 times
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>>150129058

Here is going to be another example of this. The only card that places Furbolgs in your hand is the 9 mana spell. You aren't gonna see these guys until late game. These are even just rough ideas. I'll save the rest for now
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>Reswole Jackedson
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>People think Lifecoach is good
>Ropes literally every turn
>Rank 3
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>>150131132
it takes a ropist a while to get legend
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>>150131132
It's not his main region, he started grinding on NA 2 days ago.
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>>150131051
Looks like Reno finally became rich

Did he sell the Staff to Gul'Dan?
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIXTLKKNafc
Threadly reminder.
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>>150130746
You've made them way too crappy. That card in particular means that you can never play that HUGE tempo drop of 9 mana. Even with innervate and emperor that card is unplayable.
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>>150131210
>E-celeb shit
wow epic thanks for posting this
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Someone post E-Celeb opinions on Barnes
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>>150131464
>Didn't even watch the video
The video shows how they're all fucking retarded at a game they play for a living.
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>>150131432

Well, I can always remake any of the cards. I was hesitant and tried adding more draw backs. I'll start buffing them then
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>shaman player roping literally every single turn to play 1 card or hero power pass

there's not even a chat in this game, why would you do this, it's not like you can see the other person getting frustrated.

This is at rank 16 too like who gives enough of a shit to deliberately wait until the very last of the rope
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>>150131568
i think you're a bit more retarded than the e-celebs
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>Playing my meme "All 4 Old Gods" rogue

>Warrior think's he's clever setting up brann + twin emperor on t10, obviously setting up his 18/18 c'thun for next turn

>My board isnt strong enough to break through the taunt wall and get to the brann, I only have 21 hp, the c'thun will end me
>Plays Yshaarj

>Yshaarj pulls sylvanas

>Warrior cant play c'thun now
>He tries to kill sylvanas
>Shadowcast for another one
>He clears the entire board
>Play N'zoth
>He plays C'thun into it anyway, doesnt kill sylvanas and get stolen, but does so little against my giant board

>Instantly blade of c'thun his c'thun
>With one blade of c'thun as my only c'thun card, my c'thun now has 24/24

>He tries to stabilize and doomcaller after I dont kill him (Intentionally miss lethal)
>I Reno back to full

>He kills my N'zoth ressurected huckster
>It gives me Grommash

>Play grom
>He instantly concedes

>Sitting on 30 hp with yogg and 24/24 c'thun in hand

I started to feel bad

In case anyone was wondering this deck is the most fun I've had playing in a while. People get so tilted thinking you're ONE old god then seeing blade of c'thun pop out
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Why the fuck is ranking so god damn hard right now?

No matter what deck I play, no matter what match-up it is, the enemy always gets the perfect opening hand, and the perfect counters to every card I play.

All I wanted was rank 10...
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Can somebody fight me for 80 gold ?
EU #2973
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>>150132098
all the top netdecks are 50/50 against the other netdecks
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>>150131870
If there's anyway to make people who play this dogshit mobile game miserable I'll do it.
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>>150132178
wow
you fucked that one up
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>>150132178
A MAN HAS NO NAME
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>>150132098
just focus on what you can control in the games you play
you can do it!
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>>150131210
>reynad is literally wrong about everything all the time

No way it isn't on purpose
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>>150132417
Blackstar math.
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COOL!
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>>150132417
he was wrong about all ~130 cards?
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>>150132417
Reynad takes himself too seriously to do that. He really does have the mentality of a teen.
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>>150132260
>>150132362
#2973 NoBrakes if that helps
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is pirate warrior viable right meow?
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>Lifecoach cut a sap from his Rogue deck
the absolute madman
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>>150132557
>1000 wins
>300 gold

>5000 wins
>0 gold

>>150132695
post it like this

Play a Friend - EU
NoBrakes#2973
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>>150132743

Its like aggro shaman but worse
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>>150132743
I've just made my pirate deck today, and went on a 8 winstreak. I think its good, at the very least a lot of fun.
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>>150132817
Play a Friend - EU
NoBrakes#2973
Alright.
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Best worst new card?
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>just want to get to rank 5 so I can stop playing this shitty game for the month
>every time I'm one win away from 5 I queue into some dumb shit

reno lock with reno in his top 9 cards
literally on turn 6 exactly when he needed it
jolly
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>>150133045
zoo just got another powerful 1 drop that trades up with abusive
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>enemy shaman blows both hexes on a thing from below and my doomsayer in the first five turns
>proceeds to get roflmao'd by aoe and endless huge taunts that he can't deal with

aggro players confirmed literal retards
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>>150133045
this is pretty much darkshire librarian, why did they think this retarded "you discard but you draw a card ;DD" concept isn't complete trash when you CAN'T CHOOSE WHAT TO DISCARD
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>>150131210

>Trump says 1/5 is poor stats for a 3 mana minion

How shit is he?
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>play Renolock
>get matched with the ONE rogue on ladder who runs Beneath the Grounds
would literally never happen any other time.
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>>150133396
this isn't darkshire librarian you retarded sperg, this makes soulfire replace the card it discards
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>4 shamans in a row

yeah fuck this game
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>>150133568
its too bad there arent more cards like fist of jaraxuss

this discard mechanic is pointless
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>>150133589
balanced class
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>>150133396
I think I just realized.

When you lose to RNG you might feel bad, you might not care, you might even feel angry.

But when you lose because you made the wrong decision you feel stupid, and Blizzard doesn't want to make its players feel stupid because then they'll stop giving them money.

Sure, you can miss lethal, but attacking is honestly one of only a couple decisions that are actually in your hands, most of the rest of the game inoffensively plays itself.
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>>150133676

We now have 3 cards that benefit from discard (Fist of jarraxus, tiny knight, malchezaar imp)

I think maybe one more spell and one more minion that benefits from discard and it might actually be viable
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>>150133909

Except people getting mad at RNG fucking them over is exactly why people leave the game completely
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>>150133963
Discard is an inherently flawed mechanic that will NEVER be viable because you have the chance of discarding something you really need.
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>you can win the game with 5 different cards
>they're all in the bottom of the deck

LOVE THIS GAME
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I want to make a deck that just brings random cards that aren't even in my deck to my hand/field. Might as well take advantage of the RNG in this game.

How much crafting is this going to take?
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>>150134102
Thanks for posting the statistics and proof to go alone with this surely-truthful statement. Really glad you didn't just pull a comment out of your ass to feel relevant.
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>>150134123

Never say never

Discard isnt bad when it produces a favourable effect

e.g. discarding a card you couldn't use that turn/any time soon, but buffing your tiny knight to a big enough size that it makes a much better trade, or drawing a card that you can use with the new imp, or disarding fist and dealing enough damage for lethal etc.
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>>150133438
He was comparing it to questing adventurer which has a better ability.
What he didn't realize is that having 5 health right off the bat means it's extremely hard to remove, you can play it, pass, and and it will most likely survive unlike the adventurer.
This card wouldn't be good in any deck that isn't zoo as well. It's not a card that immediately looks broken, though in zoo it is
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>>150133589
A year ago it was fucking impossible to find 4 Shamans in a month of ladder play. I wish it was like that still.
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>>150134259

Autist

You dont need triple referenced statistics to make a statement about obvious human behaviour
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>>150133438
he's right
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This is a fun card. 1 Mana, Draw a spell. Totally worth it.
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>>150134123
if you aren't playing a combo deck then there is no 1 card you really need. and blizzard could easily come up with cards to make previously bad cards broken. see: paladin secrets
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>buy 7 packs for $9.99
>get two (2) legendaries
feels good to be a paying customer.
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>>150134583

Completely ignoring the ability then sure.

But with the ability 1 attack is completely irrelelvant because it can easily be up to 3,4 or even 5 by the next turn you attack.

Making it a better yeti for 3 mana. Anyone could see that
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>>150134816
people were shitting all over the card but it's a spellslinger that I dont have to worry about giving a card to the enemy or getting shieldslam with
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>>150133909
Disagree
When you lose because you made a mistake you feel like playing again and doing it right this time.

When you lose because of RNG you feel like stopping because what you do doesn't actually matter.
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>>150134816
It's a fun, serviceable card that will never, ever see play thanks to mana wyrm.
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>>150134816
Antonidas synergy
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>>150134816

Why not just put a good spell in your deck in its place though.

A 1/1 body is completely irrelevant other than for eating a ping turn 2. Or just getting eaten by every other 1 drop

And random spells have the potential to be really, really useless in a tempo deck. Like getting a defensive secret or something

Probs see play in reno mage tho
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>>150118936
Rogue
>Thank you

Paladin
>Well met

Mage
>Hello

Priest
>Wow

Shaman
>That's iincredible

Warrior
>Heh, my thanks

Hunter
>Greetings traveler

Warlock
>Well plaaaaaayed

Druid
>A natural mistake
or
>Hm. Well played
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>>150134908
A reasonable person who wants to improve themselves, sure, but the petulant children and thirdworlders who make up most of the game's playerbase can't stand being told they're wrong, and would rather see funny things explode.
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>>150134816
this is really gay. only purpose is "free" flamewaker mana wyrm bullshit
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>>150134904
Well it's not. Spellslinger can give any class cards. Mage spells are among the most powerful in the game. I would say it's kinda better if all you want is some damage spell.
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>>150134904
The thing is that a 1/1 minion doesn't actually make a difference unless you're aggro.

The current late-game oriented tempo mage would rather just run a spell of his choosing rather than this minion which dies without doing anything and gives you a random spell.
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pls halp

Oliver#1190, North America
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this is the third fucking time I get a control pally on my promotion to rank 5 game

and of course awful draws every fucking time
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>>150135032
Because you cant put more than 2 of the same spell. And it has small body. It's pretty much a 1 mana hero power and draw a card.
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>>150135162
sent from nanophreak, hurry up I'm about to win
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>>150135045
>Hm. Well played
Still getting the flashbacks of the combo. Also

>Jaina
>Not choosing "Well played"
Her voice makes me want to kill the guy playing the class and also gets me aroused.
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Hi, when is Power Overwhelming being removed from the game :)
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>>150135247
>mouthbreather warrior
>not even golden portrait
well deserved
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>>150135410
i just want 5 so I can stop playing this dumb deck
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>>150135376
We need stuff like "Only one spell and one minion can be played each turn"
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>get to rank two
>loss streak back up to 5
>get so frustrated i stop playing hearthstone for weeks

I have come to terms with the fact that i'll never get legend.
I always give up after rank 5.
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>>150133045
reminder that succubus exists
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>>150135269

1 mana draw a card summon a 1/1 body

And lose a card slot in your deck
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>>150135367
Me and a friend were talking about combo Druid players little idioms a few days ago. How they always sit there for a full minute, then exclaim "Hm. Well played", then do the angry trees shit etc. We noticed how they always attack with face last.

>Hello over well played
I picked "Hello" for the same reason you thought I should pick "Well played".
She has that little "hm" a split-second before the "Well played" that's too hot.
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>>150135247
>Complaining about anything when playing Warrior
Fuck off man, those pally players are doing God's work.
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>>150135723
>>150133045

T1 imp coin imp
T2 SUCC ubus

Pretty stronk opener
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>>150135845
Creepy Craig
Female Minions cannot attack
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>>150135845
Translation:
>this card is a fake and only fools would believe otherwise
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>>150136029
they stole the monara OC
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>>150135845
>Moroes
>Summon 2 1/1 ghosts, ghosts cannot attack
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>>150135989
t2 darkshire librarian is also sick because it would net you +1 cards
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>>150136096
Dude, what the fuck
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>>150135247

>Warrior picker

End yourself
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>>150135989
On what deck? No deck can function with that mechanic.
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>>150136096

Go back to your cardgame for 10 year olds, faggot.

This general is for serious gamers only.
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>>150136204

Zoo, what else?

Who cares what you discard you only need like half your deck anyway
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>>150135845
Something about the pleasures of being cummed inside
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>>150136096
???
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>>150135845
>your Battlecries trigger twice.
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>druid mulches my savannah highmane
>get savannah highmane from it

hue

not that it mattered since I had double call and he conceded after the first one
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>>150136096
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>>150136274
This is hilarious. I love this comment. I'm not even being sarcastic.
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>>150135845
I can believe you have lie to me
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>>150136204
a minion based deck that doesn't give a shit what it discards, because it is not a combo or control deck, as long as it has minions to slap down
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>tfw blizzard will never address the armor issue

at least justicar will rotate out at some point...
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>>150136274
>hsg
>only for serious gamers
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>>150136618
>>150135845
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>>150136747
we still have warrior gaining 20 armor from shieldbearers
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>>150136758
Stop, you'll give our superior card game a bad name.
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>>150136996
Is this a false flag from MtG players?
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>>150137043
>The state of you
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>>150136996
but this isn't /mtg/...
>>
As a member oe yugioh of the yugioh community I hope that you don't let the actions of the shitty thread spammer reflect on your opinion of our community as a whole.
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>Le 5 hp angry fat man who can grow behind cheap taunts

Who play tests this shit and thinks it's perfectly ok?
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Any help on what to craft? I have 1600 dust right now
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>>150137217
i don't think about you at all
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>>150137304
Malygos.
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>>150137304

Why does this deck not have Reno?
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>>150137304

If you wanna play dragon priest Deathwing dragonlord + N'zoth dragon priest is the dankest right now

Altho you really should be hoarding gold rather than dust right now to buy the next xpac
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>>150137274
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>>150137304
chillmaw
consider putting reno in your 1-of deck
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>>150137304
>one of each
>clearly cards that you have two of in your collection
>no reno

what the fuck
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>>150137304

>Dragon Priest
>Only has six dragons in it

Holy shit man.

Also, if you ever have to ask "What legendary should I craft" and you don't have Sylvanas, that's your answer.
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>>150137551
>Implying Ben plays this game
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>>150137497
>the "ultimate dragon"
>requries sacrificing 3 big minions to create
>cannot kill the opponent in one hit

>in hearthstone it takes 2 big minions
>they form a minion that can kill the opponent in one hit

Hearthstone clearly superior.
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>>150137512
>Dragonlord + N'Zoth

I've wanted to do this since dragonlord and N'Zoth were first announced but fuck me it's so expensive, especially since you want chillmaw too which I don't have.
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>>150137481
Already have him, but I can't find a good use for him in actual play.
>>150137512
I have N'zoth, but no dragonlord.
>>150137603
Is Sylvanas really that good? Whenever I'm up against someone who plays her, I just entomb/silence her anyway
>>150137560
>>150137490
I haven't given it any thought actually, will probably remove young priestess in favor of him
>>150137554
Debating between chillmaw and sylvanas? I don't really play any other decks that would benefit from sylvanas so I guess I'll get chillmaw
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>>150132060
that sounds like a lot of fun, good on you
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>opponent sitting behind a big ass taunt that would eat my entire board if I traded into it and opponent would threaten lethal
>have exactly one card in hand
>opponent starts BMing
>mfw my last card is "NONE SHALL PASS"

he's actually been pretty good in my ladder experience
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>>150137787
That's why they made neo blue-eyes ultimate dragon which can attack 3 times.
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>>150137972

Priest has better tools to deal with Sylvanas than most, but yes, she really is that good.

You're either forcing your opponent to make super-inefficient trades to deal with her effect, forcing them to use most/all of their turn removing her with spells, or you straight up steal one of their minions.

Pretty much every deck can be made better with Sylvanas. She's as close to an omnipresent card as you'll see.
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>>150137972
That's because Priest is the only class that can handle Sylvanas with ease
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This game is for my fifth consecutive 12 win run in a row. Give me your energy.
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curator looks pretty great. it might be worth running shit like corrupted seer to pull off it
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Is there a livestream of someone playing Zoolock?

Or is that, like... way too specific of a thing to look for?
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>>150138197
Would Ysera be good in my deck? I'm deciding between Deathwing Memelord and Chillmaw. I don't know if I should consider Ysera aswell
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>>150138705
why would you want to watch that?
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>>150138748
ysera sucks in this era
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what are your hopes for this adventure?

>a decent early game minion for priest, that can go against Totem Golem, Imp Gang Boss, Carrion Grub, Darkshire Councilman, etc...
>sticky taunts for 3-4 mana
>a boardwipe spell for a class that isn't for Warrior or Warlock
>a tempo switcher like doomsayer
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>>150138797
I don't know I just had the urge all of a sudden.

Like when you're pregnant and want to eat peanut butter on a fish or something.
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>>150138705
For specific decks you're better off looking on Youtube.
Mind you, Trump Teachings is actually pretty good to teach you the basics and some intermediate strategies, like favourable trading/when to trade and tempo. Which is what you're after with zoo.
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>>150138983

A new weapon or weapon buff for Rogue.

Or a Rogue board clear.

Literally ANYTHING to justify nerfing BF into the dirt
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>>150138525
No this can't be possible, Kripp is the greatest arena player of all time in the world and not even he has achieves such a feat!
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>>150138983
A decent Rogue card that doesn't force me to use cards from other classes because fuck you I want to play Rogue.

And if you're going to force me to use off-class cards then at least make a Discover card so I don't have to get a Light's Justice.
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>shaman vs warrior
>roll 1/1 totem five turns in a row with his acolyte on board
JUST
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>>150138525
>>150139115
Five consecutive twelve win runs. Rogue warrior warrior warrior rogue.

I have become the Kripp.
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>>150139175

>Three 12 win warrior runs in a row

How many fucking Death's Bites and War Axes did you have between those runs? Goddamn.
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>>150138983

not really answering your question, but now that you mention doomsayer, when did people started using it the way they do now?

I don't remember people using it much before, even though it's from the classic set
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Is anyone actually happy with the state of the game currently?
I remember a few months ago when they announced that GvG and Naxx would rotate out and I though "great, I won't have to deal with those broken shit again". But looking better now it's the same shit except only Warrior, Shaman and Hunter have the broken cards and no one else, no good removals either.

>tfw at least 6+ months of warriors stacking 30+ armor and having all the board control that you could ever need
>tfw at least 6+ months of Shaman with Trogg, 477 and 0 mana 5/5 taunt
>tfw at least 6+ months of double call of the wild = insta win

I don't think I can make it bros.
No, playing wild is not and option.
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>>150139403
>Is anyone actually happy with the state of the game currently?
Oh yes, I'm really looking for to Duelyst's new expansion, the August reward cards look great.

What? Hearthstone? Uh... it can be better.
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>>150139257
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>>150139403
if zooniggers left i would be happy with the game
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I want murlocs, and i want them now!
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>>150139380
I guess when Zoo and Aggro Shaman became the juggernauts, defensive cards like Belcher, Annoy, etc... got cycled so players had to get more creative.
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>>150139403
Maybe if Zoolocks drove themselves off of cliffs, yeah then great game
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>>150139380

90% of the early game anti-aggro cards were in GvG/Naxx and got rotated out, which let Aggro and Zoo go into maximum overdrive.

Doomsayer was the best way for control decks to re-establish themselves in the game after falling behind the first few turns.
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>>150139647
play murloc shaman, it's not good, but you can surprise everyone and turn 4 shaman murloc buff is game winning
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>>150139803
ewww murloc shaman!
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>>150139684
this is an accurate post
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>>150139803
Link to the deck list.
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>>150139851
Hey man Morgl is cute.

NO BULLY
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have you cleansed a fedora today, /hsg/?
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>>150139403
>all those retards saying standard would save the game

i really wonder what they thought the game would have looked like. really loving how tempo focused the game will always be
>miss a turn
>lol you lose
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>>150135845
This art sucks, its way too similar to the Barnes card with one hand pointing a different direction. I know Barnes is different with the clothes and curtain but it still is a bit too samey for me.

Also this should be disco or 70s but I see none of that here. Why not wear a leisure suit and have a thin mustache? Pink dildo candles or some shit?
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So, the cards reveled today are the one that going to appear in the first wing of Karazhan?
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>>150140340
after playing since beta i still dont have ragnaros
maybe i should craft him
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>>150140340
>have you beaten a netdeck with your netdeck today?
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>>150140340
Every day.
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beneath the grounds is cool
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I am here to make Rogue great again.
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>>150140738

>Loatheb

Goddamn I miss that guy
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>>150139803
>>150140295
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>>150140839
he's great on turn 7 against hunters.
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>>150140340

maybe if I had Rag. I NEED him
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>>150140839
me too anon, me too

>tfw you cannot JUST comboshitters right before the turn they go off
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>>150139403
Warrior is bullshit because it has the cheapest and strongest removal of the game (lmao 5 mana clear the board) and it gets to a point where you can't punish them usually, so I agree

Shaman is bullshit because it has the best mana/stats minions in the game, so I agree too

But Hunter is 'healty'. Sure, if played on curve with perfect drops it has 80% to win (like any deck), but generally it gets to the point where it wins because it top decks a burn spell, however, that's the point of the deck, since it was made to counter shit like Control Warrior and Aggro Shaman and win in a close call. It actually has a few bad matchups (Control/C'Thun Priest surprisingly, Midrange Shaman, Control Shaman, Tempo Mage, etc...). If the meta changes, Midrange Hunter won't make a comeback, and I dare say that Blizzard is going to push the Control Hunter archetype even further is future expansions.

The worst offender in this patch is Zoo though, because if you deck can't handle Zoo, then you'd better go home, and it's fucking easy to auto-pilot. I get it that f2p players need to have options, but Zoo just feels like bad foresight.

Shit, we have had 2 or 3 months where people have tried to find ways to put Zoo and Aggro out of the picture, and we still are waiting for it.
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>>150140810
I always thought a good idea for a Rogue card is "Pick any number of cards in your hand. Shuffle those cards into your deck. Draw that many number of cards."
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>>150141135
>lmao 5 mana clear the board
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2 mana 3/3 when
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>>150141152

>Selecting multiple cards in one play.

Too complex Hearthstone players according to BB man.
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>>150140629
>>150141105
you can never, EVER, go wrong with Rag in your deck.
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>>150141107
>The pleasure is mine
>LEEEEEEEERRROOOOOOYYYY
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>>150140810

Its shit.
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>>150140295
>>150141023
sorry, I was busy, I stole this from another guy in hearthpwn

it needs a lot of work, but I got to rank 12 easy just playing it. A better player could get to 10 or 9 and if it gets perfected, maybe it can become a rank 5 deck.
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>>150141107
t. midrange mouthbreather
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>>150141479
Also forgot to add some cold bloods, double evis and literally their entire board that was concealed.
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>>150140340
>cleansed a fedora
>no harrison

I mean, most weapons now get dropped in turn 4 (truesilver), 5 (Doomhammer) or 7 (Gorehowl), so I think it you should consider it
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>>150141479
>I am not a child! Well, ok... I am young for an elf, but my race ages different from yours, humans.
>I was a "child" when the bandits killed my family.
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>Nefarion
>Grand Crusader

You guys just have to think like Brode.

This is an awesome card.
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>>150142048
Wow I get to equip Light's Justice for free!
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>>150142048
>Implying this card is the one that will enable nigger rogue
I just can't see it man.
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>>150142048

>Both of those cards are out of rotation in six months.

Given Brode's attitude to Warsong Commander post-nerf, I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic, because that IS something he'd think most likely.
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>>150138983
early game board clear for mage that's better than arcane explosion and missiles

>deal damage to all enemy minions equal to the amount of enemy minions on the board

EAT SHIT TENTACLEFAGS
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>>150141906
You don't really need Harrison in Renolock because your hand is always full anyway, you'd just end up overdrawing.
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>>150142048
>You guys just have to think like Brode.
And what would that be exactly?
>all the one viable rogue decks runs Undercity Huckster so I will put a card that synergy if it only
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>Watching an old pre-Standard video
>"It's important to be pro-active against Priest"
>Priest drops a 2/8 with taunt on turn 2

How times have changed.

At least there's still Mogushan Warden... two turns later... for one attack and one defense less...
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you know, every time they show off some shit-tier cards, I say to myself "don't worry, they wouldn't design something THIS bad, I'm sure it interacts very well with some to-be-released card in the future"...yet those card never come, so every expansion/adventure we're stuck with a handful of cards that nobody actually plays.

like wow, it's nice that the adventure contains 40 something new cards, but how many will actually be playable outside of some shit gimmick deck?
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>>150142450

Well, this is Karazhan, where fucking everything is enchanted.

Maybe they'll give Rogues some stupid "Magic Mirror" card that gives the Rogue a copy of every opposing card played while it's on the board.
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>>150142549
this post gave me aids
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>tfw rank 5 with your favorite deck of the season

Wew what a ride, too many Dragon shitters
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>>150142648
And that Lightbomb, man, that looks sweet to use.
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>>150142697
same senpai, feels good
I better get some dank fucking dust though

>>150142549
>tfw summon 4 deathlords with this deck then resummon them turn 10 every game
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>>150142556
3 expansions later and they are STILL trying to force Discard-Lock.
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>>150143442
It's such a dumb mechanic, they could make discard cards require that you discard a card, but make it so you can choose which ones to discard, so fist of jaraxxus would be viable, also puts more thought into it.
"Which card can I discard while losing the least value" or something.
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>>150143687
I think all they need to do is have some minions with a "If you discard this card, summon it instead" mechanic.
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>>150143892
2 mana 2/2 if you discard this, shuffle it back into your deck and give it +1/+1

y/n?
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>>150143687
if by viable you mean broken
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>>150143892
Eh, I'd still feel like shit once my doomguard discards my 2 power overwhelmings though so I like my solution a tiny bit better.
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>>150143687
A step in a better direction, would be to have more Warlock spells that synergise with discarding (like Fist). Just not damage.
Like "Discard a card and deal that cards mana cost as damage", or "Discard a card and add its mana cost to a friendly minion as attack" etc (and delete PO). That way, zoo gets their PO that's permanent, but it costs actual mana to play.
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>>150143442
Still trying to force beast druid too.

And control hunter.

And pirate warrior.

And murloc paladin (though this one is semi-viable).

I don't get it, they clearly have no idea how to plan the future of this game, by the time enough cards are released for these archetypes they'll only be playable in wild. Each expansion should really push a couple tribes/deck archetypes for certain classes. It makes no sense to half-assedly stretch them between each expansion.
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>>150143442
>>150143687
Yea Ive never really liked the discard effect.

Warlock has become a neutral card class. You might be playing warlock but nothing outside of the avatar really lets you know.
>Affliction
lol NO
>Demons
maybe but all the good ones are gone
>Destruction
I fucking wish but yea know gotta give mages for fireballs lol

Its sucks wanting to play a lock deck with a cool theme but are forced into gimmick decks
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>>150144191
Yeah, it's kind of a broken and shitty idea, you're using your resources but they themselves get rid of more resources, they could pull it off if they had more synergy as you said. primarily putting them back into your deck, if the conditions to be met fail, or something along those lines.
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>>150144118
Discard should be Risk vs Reward.

This is what the Hearthstone team is trying to design around, but so far the only card that perfectly achieves this is Doomguard.
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>>150144280
Pirate warrior is already here though, its the face warrior deck pretty much.
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>>150140810
>friendly minion
What minions do you consider "friendly"?

Maybe the target dummy? Or the murloc tinyfin?

Choose a friendly minion. Shuffle it into your deck, then draw a card.
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>>150144752
"Friendly" means your own minions dumbass.
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>>150144752
Undercity Huckster is pretty friendly, also makes good funnel cakes.
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>>150144997
You're retarded
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>>150145035

>Makes

Those funnel cakes are three weeks old and snatched from the hands of an elderly Tuskarr just wanting to make his way in the world.
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Reminder that Barnes is going to completely break HS

Every game will be determined by Barnes RNG - can you mulligan for it? did you get tirion/rag/cairne/sylv/etc turn 4? you win! if not, and your opponent did, you lose!

At least the current Shaman and Warrior decks don't get much value from it, so some other deck will take over, but it'll still be Heroes of Barnestone from now on
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>>150144598
Yea, the discard tradeoff isn't as strong as it needs to be.

Take Shaman, for example. He gets his cards on finance. But in the long run, he doesn't pay extra. Just installments.
Warlock actually has to trade-in on of his other cards (and sometimes lowers his salary), plus the cost of the played card to get his strong stuff. So they needs to be stronger than the Shaman cards to even be considered.
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Is Nefarian rigged? every time i play against one it gives the other guy the exact way to lethal me, and its not an exageration.

>have jaraxxus on
>plays nefarian
>gets sacrificial pact

its not the first time this has happened
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So what's the more overpowered card: Ravaging Ghoul, or Death's Bite?
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>>150145280
desu that one is just because of the weird design decision to include an instant win spell to counter the strongest legendary of a class, in the same class
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>>150145515
As someone who plays against both in the same decks in wild, Death's Bite. There's just no comparing the difference in power between something that does 1 damage whirlwind the first turn it comes out, then maybe does 3 next turn, to something that does 4 damage the first turn, and 4+1 whirlwind the second, for only 1 more mana.
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>>150145515
death's bite
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>>150145515

>3 mana 3/3 "LOL I WHIRLWIND U"

vs

>4 mana 4/2 weapon "LOL I REMOVE A MINION, REMOVE A 5 HEALTH MINION, THEN WHIRLWIND YOU"

DB by far.
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>>150145515

Not being able to play a 4 health minion on turn 4, or a 5 health minion on turn 5, was fucking crippling

DB for sure
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OFFICIAL Blizzard Computer Entertainment TIER LIST for Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Digital Collectible Card Game

PATRICIAN TIER
Miracle Rogue
Malygos Rogue
Control Shaman
N'zoth Paladin
Patron Warrior
Worgen Warrior
Reno Warlock


"I just do what everyone else does" TIER
Zoo Warlock
Token Druid
Dragon Warrior
Midrange Hunter
Midrange Shaman


SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE TIER
C'thun Druid
Ramp Druid
Beast Druid
Tempo Mage
Reno Mage
Dragon Warlock
Malygos Warlock
Secret Paladin
Murloc Paladin
Aggro Paladin
N'zoth Rogue
Tempo Rogue
Mill Rogue
Yogg Anything


CANCER TIER
Aggro Shaman
Control Warrior
C'thun Warrior
Pirate Warrior
Tempo Warrior
Freeze Mage


*A CHALLENGER APPEARS* TIER
Priest


For inquiries and suggestions, please email:
[email protected]

Thank you.
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>>150146270
>malygos warlock exists
>c'thun druid in special snowflake tier
>reno warlock in patrician and not "I just do what everyone else does"
>zoo isn't in cancer tier
>distinguishing between "I just do what everyone else does" and 'CANCER"
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>>150146270
Your "PATRICIAN TIER" is literally "I just do what everyone else does" decks
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>>150145535
Thing is its not the first time, with other classes too, that nefarian gives the precise answers for my oponent to win
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>>150146561
Your opponent is lucky and you're not, simple.
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>>150146480
>distinguishing between "I just do what everyone else does" and 'CANCER"
>>150146547
>Your "PATRICIAN TIER" is literally "I just do what everyone else does" decks

I understand your concerns but I don't expect plebs such as yourself to understand the subtleties of constructing a well-rounded tier list.
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>>150146752
t. Warrior fag
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>>150144752

achem
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>>150146752
>my favorite netdecks are less cancerous than other netdecks
end yourself netdecker
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>>150140810

>enabling miracle rogue

fuck off
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>4chan seemed to like this card despite it being shitty bait
>Reddit post on it was just people crying how it was broken and saying 'You missed the 4 mana 7/7 meme!'
>Still got like 38 Arrows or something

How shitty and memey a card must I make to have the top spot?
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OH

SHIT
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>>150147337
>reddit

Stopped reading there.

Get the fuck out redditard.
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>>150147147
t. reno jackson
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>>150147081
>why is my spell power warrior losing to all these UNCREATIVE decks?!?!?
Off yourself
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>>150147630
100 dust
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how many wins?
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>>150147858
>no 4 mana 7/7
get the fuck outta here
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>>150147654

What? Is it a disease? All matters and opinions are gone once you glance into reddit and discover that it is fucking shit?

Or are you a paranoid individual that has to prepare a special response because you read a word that disagreed with you?
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>>150147738
>if it's not a netdeck it's something retarded like spell damage warrior
stick to netdecking, mouthbreather.
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>>150147337
>How shitty and memey a card must I make to have the top spot?

Here, try this one.
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>tfw just got rank 5
>couldn't have played tomorrow
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>>150148019
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>>150147630

*It was a hologram*
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>>150148019
he's right
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I guess lightspawn left the meta so long ago some people never even saw it yet.
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>>150147654
>>150148019
>>150148373
>>
Execute was a mistake
>>
Say something nice about Lifecoach
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>>150148573
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>>150148805
he's more handsome than 99% of hearthstone players
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>>150148805
I like his roleplaying a lot
>>
I'm actually pretty excited for this new mage spell. I won't put it in my decks, but I imagine I'll rip it off my ethereal conjurer quite a few times.
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Would you guys play this card?
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>>150149030
Didn't read.
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is zoo v. hunter the worst matchup in the game? people say hunter is shit but even as a fatigue warrior and deathrattle rogue with a shit ton of removal and draw, hunter is annoying as fuck. there must be a downside to the class
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Oh wow, Glad you wasted all this effort for me...

I now see that both these sites are utter and complete garbage,

>>150149030
Is the only option for Priest is being a better theif the Rogue?
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>>150148805

Faces are funny
Good at lots of games
Wife is hot

Took the wifebush/porncoach incident so well it became funny and him and his wife owned it, mad respect
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>>150149030
That should be a Rogue card! Hahahahah!
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>>150114759
LIFECOACH TILTED LIVE ON STREAM

clips.twitch
.tv/lifecoach1981/AdorableLobsterDuDudu
>>
>ancestral spirit is MILES of value now that HOOT HOOT has left the building.

I am a happy man
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>>150149313
>e-celeb shit
that's fucking epic. thanks for posting it
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>>150149163
Well the card make sense, since in WoW, Healers are rare.

Rogues and Hunters are 10:1 against Priest in LFG
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>>150135845

I already tricked you, you don't really lose
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>>150149605

LFG is not really 'Warcraft'

It's like making 'Recruit a Friend' card or a 'Trade chat' card
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>>150149875
LFG was popularized by WoW and it's the name of a really popular comic strip about WoW.
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I've lost 100% of games against hunter as warrior today.

Playing a single highmane and one call of the wild completely fucking destroys me.
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>>150148563
>4 mana 5/5
Holy shit, why is this not being used? It's the minion with the best stats (except for le epic 477)
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>>150149313
What does cuckcoach expect? The ladder is designed to benefit the fastest decks.
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>>150150124
because it's a priest card and after it gets hit its attack lowers
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>>150149313
What does he say at the end? I can't understand him.
>I want to play a liaalaiwliwawalija
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>>150150058
>I've lost 100% of games against hunter as warrior today.
working as intended, Lord Fedora.
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>kripp not streaming tonight
how am i going to fall asleep now
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how likely is this card if blizzard is pushing a discard warlock deck type**
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>>150150124
If you hit it with a spell other minions can trade favorably with it.
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>>150150646
Could be cool
7 mana - Portal to the Nether - Place all discarded cards into your deck. Summon a random Demon.
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>>150150426
>>150150646
retarded motherfucker
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>>150150646
make it more expensive, for that ability 2 mana is a joke (since 1 mana is the draw). At least make it 7 mana.
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>>150150646
Didn't read.
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>>150150646

I'd like something different

"Passive Spell: Demonic Link: All minions discarded by effects have 1/1 copies shuffled into the deck. All spells discarded by effects are shuffled into the deck and have 1 value when drawn".

Not only do I not know how to word that, but that's 10000% more complex than the average HS player can wrap their minds around.
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>>150151056
7 mana? you're an idiot

the downside of discard isn't losing cards from your deck, it's losing cards from your hand

no one would pay 7 mana just to put cards back in their deck
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>>150151056

I considered making it cost 4, but shuffling discarded cards back into your deck doesn't really seem that valuable.

>>150150989

you got me you bully
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>>150150485
"I just wanna play i little bit of hearthstone guys, just a little bit".
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Lifecoach is tilted hard on hearthstone
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>>150150646
Gang up tier. main reason why discard is bad is because it limits your options at any given turn not that you lost card from your deck.
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>>150151395
>>150151386
Based aggro bro's.
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>>150151249
>>150151273
you are giving yourself longevity in the long run, discard cards have that drawback since they are underpriced for their stats, but if you are able to put the discarded cards back into your deck you are simply making the drawback mean nothing, and warlock is a class that has no issue with draw,

The idea is good, I like it that you can play around that, however you need to make it overpriced since you can literally run 2 of these and never run out of steam, since you can refill your deck twice.

I can see it in reno decks and handlock becoming stronger. Or discard zoo being absurd too.
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its time
chickenchasr#1385
NA
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>>150151395
Based Lifecoach. If a big e-celeb like him talks the truth about aggro, maybe blizzard will finally do something about it.
Other e-celebs just suck blizzard cock and say everything is perfect.
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>>150151764

TheIdiot#1478
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how many hours until the season ends?
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>>150151715

the drawback is losing immediate potential from your hand when you discard, which heavily outweighs the effect of placing cards you wouldn't have had back in your deck, with no immediate value
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>>150151994
28 hours for America, more or less.
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so someone told me to run zoolock until rank 15.
I ignored him and played midrange hunter to rank 15.
now what?
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>>150151715
> ups I just discarded my demonic gateway
Why would you put two shit cards in your deck just to play what Doomguard? Why not just play more consistent reno/handlock? There is no benefit to it. you just wasting 3 mana to draw a card. In 90 % of matches it does nothing else.
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>interesting cards like beneath the grounds, gang up, or burgle will literally cost you the game if you use them without prep
>mage uses iceblock once and increases their chance of winning the game by 50%

fucking hate this game design
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>>150151850
thanks anon
quest complete
see you all in 3 days
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>>150152337
I get reno is kinda an answer to face decks.
but in all honesty fuck this card. I outplay a warlock at every turn with my midrange deck and get him low enough to threathen lethal, and he reno shadowflames.
no more hand, no card draw left. fucking done for
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>>150152543

>tfw I wanted to add you to my friend's list for shiggles

o-okay....enjoy your gold
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>>150152438
Once zoo, shaman and hunter are completely gutted or removed from the game you'll be able to enjoy your meme cards.
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>>150152337

I prefaced the discussion with, "if blizzard were to push a discard deck type"

we aren't talking about the game killing shaman/zoolock shitfest plaguing live
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can anyone recommend me a rogue deck that doesnt require alot of non-adventure legendaries. im hurting for dust
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>>150152546
renoniggers will defend "1 card win the game"
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>>150152646
i despise playing this game for anything more than completing 3 quests at a time
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>>150152546

Thing is, Reno isnt even a good design answer to aggro

Aggro can be beaten depending on draws, because it cant survive long games. If it gets good draws, but you get the answer, it loses

If it gets bad draws, it loses

If it gets good draws, and you get bad draws and cant answer it, you lose.

Reno is just another card you need to hope you draw by turn 6 in order to auto-win the game. It doesn't really do anything new that blizzard/flamestrike/elemental destruction/any clear doesn't already do.

In fact, while it's better than clears against burn damage, it's worse than clears against board damage because it doesn't effect the board state at all.
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>play rogue arena
>2-2 not the best
> play against pally shittier than me
> fan of knives his SAD
> get added by him with the message "kys cancerous faggot"
>my deck wasnt even that good
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>>150152662
If blizzard waned to push discard deck they should make cards like: Always discard this card. If this card is discarded Draw card/summon random daemon. Something which nullifies down side of discard or give additional benefit. Fist of Jaraxxus is right way to do it but it just is not consistent because discard is random.
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>>150153104

paladins, warlocks, shamans, and warriors are all salty 10 year old netdeckers and when they lose the chicken nugget plate gets slapped and you get a friend request
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>>150152703
You can just play Miracle without the Leeroy/VanCleef pair. It's not as good but it's still a playable deck.
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>>150153216
the people who play paladin are all patrician tier now

the kiddies who used to play secret paladin moved on to face warrior/warlock/shaman
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>>150152330

Keep playing it? It's the last fucking day and you are rank 15 you could fucking play anything.
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wat do
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>>150153243
what would be good replacement cards?
for leeroy I can use reckless rocketeer, but im not sure what I would replace edwin with
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>>150153730
this badass motherfucker
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>>150153708
Cleef so you live the dream. Although objectively Ysera is the best card.
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>>150153730
questing adventurer
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>>150153708
edwin, ysera is better with control (which rogue isnt) and mukla is really only good if you have board control.
edwin allows you to get at least a 6/6 or an 8/8 on the field that forces the opponent to deal with it.
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>>150153803
your right, its like a premature edwin
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>>150153407
>I get offered priest/hunter/paladin
>I guess I am now paladin kiddie
There is no correlation between played deck/class and skill or general idiocy. There will always be idiots who will be pissed no matter what deck they play and against who. We are playing RNG casual card game which has for some dumb reason is also E-sport. If you are not aware of this or are not playing for the salt replies why are you accepting friend requests?
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>>150153809
>>150153880
the brotherhood shall prevail
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>>150152142
ty senpai <3
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>>150154041
Keep us updated on that run bro.
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>Just dusted all naxx/GvG
I will regret this decision sometime in the future
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>>150154041
I will prevail, Do not fail the brotherhood!
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>>150154195
I did the same but not the super good ones like Chow/Mad Scientist/Belcher

it's fun to check out Wild from time to time
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>>150153730
I would maybe play Stranglethorn Tiger over Rocketeer, m8.
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>>150154362
Gonna miss mal'ganis
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>priest plays call of the wild twice before I even draw one
>gets N'Zoth before I do which would have won me the game

what pisses me off most is I put in N'Zoth to specifically help against control matchups that go too long and run me out of steam

I know priest is shit but that still left me salty
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>>150154195
Have fun trying to do Night in Kara.
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>>150154479
Adventures are easy as heck. I just use zoo for almost everything.
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>>150154195

What the hell are you going to do when 2017 rolls around, standard does its first huge shift and becomes complete garbage and people shift back into wild?
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>Playing Ranked
>Run into a Priest

What the fuck?
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>>150154195
retard
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>>150154778
Everyone weathers standard formats no matter how bad they are. I've never heard of a single card game where people straight up stop playing standard en masse.
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>Time limit per turn
>>
>was good in arena
>7,5 wins average
>now I'm averaging 5,5
>losing gold
Well shit.
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Is the camel midrange hunter better than the regular variety?
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>>150154860
>Play HS
>calling anyone a retard
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>>150154835
are you in wild?
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>>150155101
no
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>>150155202
Is dreadscale any good?
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>>150155292
see >>150155202
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>>150154993

But standard formats in other cardgames probably change the game every rotation.

Standard will always be dominated by a large contingency of the same classic cards with a little bit of extra filling the deck. It's going to get tiring and even more shitty real soon.
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>>150155146
why is soggoth the slitherer not immune to spells that damage 'all' minions, despite them still being fucking spells

god i hate that shit
>>
This expansion makes me want to pull the fucking trigger
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>>150155381
Because Blizzard can't code that into the game.
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>>150155381
because the card text doesn't say it's immune to anything
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>>150155343
>But standard formats in other cardgames probably change the game every rotation.
Not more so than HS.

>Standard will always be dominated by a large contingency of the same classic cards with a little bit of extra filling the deck. It's going to get tiring and even more shitty real soon.

It's always like that. Reminds of how every generation thinks the the one preceding it is worse. People have been saying ygo is broken ever since goat control.
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>>150155504
Why is that? are you a lorefag? Because if that is the case I am sorry but at this point you should know that they dont give a fuck about lore.
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>>150155381
What are you even talking about??? Goddamn man HS players. if you tried playing mtg your head would pop.
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>>150155654
Succeeding*
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>>150155758
I was talking about Whispers of the old gods

Cthun, Nzoth, every old god and card in this stupid ass expansion can suck my fock
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>1 mana trade into anything

I literally want to punch zoo players in the fucking face
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>>150155950
me too dude me too

>hurrrrr trading is hard im a control deck with fourteen 1 drops lmao
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>>150155343
>It's going to get tiring and even more shitty real soon.
nah. the format is currently the smallest it will ever be.
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what do you think, should they ban Yogg from tournaments?
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>So hunter's traditionally a class with a very weak late-game, right?
>Fuck that, let's give them an 8 mana card that puts down eleventyfuckingbillion points worth of stats on the board!

I want to shoot the person that made Call of the Wild in the fucking cock.
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>>150155551
>>150155578
>>150155768
See
>>150150989
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>>150156139

>the format is currently the smallest it will ever be.

>2016 standard
>BRM, TGT, LOE, WoTOG and soon Kara and the end of year expansion

>2017 standard
>WoTOG, Kara, December EXP the 2017 exp

>6 is smaller than 4

Tell me how removing three and adding one makes something bigger?
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I seriously get Leokk like 60% of the time, Huffer 30%, and Misha 1%
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>>150156463
>Hunter has no draw
>It's current early game is subpar compared to the other cancer classes
>More reliant on curving out than the other top classes right now
Call of the Skill is a fucking joke, but it doesn't make Hunter broken by itself.
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>>150156532
>2016 standard
>BRM, TGT, LOE, WoTOG and soon Kara and the end of year expansion
THIS IS NOT CURRENT YOU FUCKING CUNT. HOW DARE YOU DISREPECT ME WHILE BEING A WRONG CUNT?

THERE WILL NEVER AGAIN BE A YEAR WITH 2 ADVENTURES. ALL YEARS WILL HAVE 2 EXPANSIONS AND 1 ADVENTURE.
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>>150156532
>currently
Reading comprehension nigger.
>>150156582
What about the other 9% of the time?
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>>150156930
the other 9% I'm bad at math at midnight
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>>150156930
his opponent instant concedes expecting huffer
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>>150149078
Midrange Hunter has always been good vs Control Warrior.
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>>150156849
>ALL YEARS WILL HAVE 2 EXPANSIONS AND 1 ADVENTURE.

is this true?
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just started playing hearthstone yesterday, is there like an efficient way to get dust to get cards without purchasing packs?
i like the game a lot so far, but its tiresome getting stomped by people who have significantly better decks than i do
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>>150157121
It changes from year to year. 2015 had 2 adventures and 1 expansion, and this year will 2 expansions and 1 adventure. Next year will be like 2015 again.
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>>150157137

>just started playing hearthstone yesterday

Mistake

> is there like an efficient way to get dust to get cards without purchasing packs?

No

>i like the game a lot so far

False

>but its tiresome getting stomped by people who have significantly better decks than i do

Life
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Card dump fucking when?
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>>150157270
Around the 9th.
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>>150157226
No, they confirmed that from the Year of the Kraken onward it will be 2 Expansions and 1 Adventure
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>>150157137
get out while you can!

run!
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>Use a homebrew deck
>Drop ranks like flies
>Use an experimental lifecoach deck
>Win streak to rank 5

Whelp
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>>150157480
What the fuck, when did they say that?
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>>150157551
Which one?
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>>150157676
His play on N'Zoth rogue
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It's that time family
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>>150157756
BY FIRE WE PURGE
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>>150157794
Be* purged you deaf dickless bitchboi
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>>150157756
>>150157794
fuck this children's card game
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>>150157551
post your homebrew
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>>150157480
>>150157557
i heard this too but can not find a source. might be bs.
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>start using deck tracker
>game lags like shit
>close deck tracker
>game runs like normal
does anyone know how to fix this
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>>150157956
Nice dust, anon
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>>150158038
don't use deck tracker you tryhard
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>>150158040
this isn't the first time I've gotten the little shit either, I'm actually a little salty right now
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>>150157956
welcome to the club mate

i crafted nat the darkfisher when i could have crafted twin emperors
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>>150157229
>>150157486
is the matchmaking completely random? like is there a chance I'll be placed with people who might be new to the game as well?
should I be saving gold for packs or the arena? and if i buy packs, should I be getting expansion packs or the normal pack?
is there any reason to play ranked while using the basic starter cards?
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>>150158021
http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/1193-two-expansions-and-one-adventure-per-year-knife
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>>150158092
deck tracker is for casuals who don't want to have to pay attention to things

>>150158038
more ram
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>>150158092
im to lazy to keep track of what i have left in my otk
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>>150158247
you're TOO lazy TO keep track.

why do all lazy niggers not know how to spell?
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>>150158170

>is the matchmaking completely random?

Yes

> like is there a chance I'll be placed with people who might be new to the game as well?

No

>should I be saving gold for packs or the arena?

Pack

>and if i buy packs, should I be getting expansion packs or the normal pack?

All

>is there any reason to play ranked while using the basic starter cards?

Irrelevant
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>>150158241
i dont think ram is the issue
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help me meme, i don't care about my rank as long as I get the cardback
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>>150158170

completely random, keep in mind the ranked ladder will reset soon and you'll face people with OP meta decks even at Rank 25.

also always get classic packs unless you have a very specific deck in mind

don't bother with arena
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>>150158529
replace patron with stealth tiger for surprise 16+ damage
also balanced favor
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>>150158000
>>150157551
i'm waiting and i got trips so you need to post it
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>>150158529
blessed champion -> dragon egg
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>>150158524
found the issue, if using windows classic theme it lags.
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>Lifecoach stuck on rank 3 for 8h now
>switched to dragon
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>>150158524

>javaupdate

Give me one good fucking reason you even have JAVA installed?
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>>150159425
Not like he needs the Blizzcon points
>>
After 1000 years I have managed to grab 7 wins in Arena again.

Pray to your god anon
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>>150159471
Yeah, he doesn't care about the points but I still thinks it's funny that a pro is still the same rank after about 8h of playing.
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>>150158804
Sorry, left my computer, it was this, I tried to fit a little bit everything in the end it was too slow
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>>150159434
idk why i have it 2bh
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>>150159610
this just needs 2 auctioneers and zero shadowcasters
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does anyone even play wild
>>
>>150158529
killing it here at rank 19
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>>150159929
There's a few here
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>>150159597
he just played 8 games brah
give him a little credit
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>>150159963
I actually kinda miss the innocent times between rank 25-20, you'd see some weird ass decks out there
>>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0CUqi-OfwU
>tfw the least cancerous Shaman deck beats the most cancerous class
Based concede Shaman.
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>druid gets the innervate into astral communion into nourish dream
>I still kill him anyway with the only big thing he gets to play is ancient of war

I've never felt so guilty, I just shit all over someone's fun so hard.
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>>150160305
the problem of that deck is that it isn't ladder proof
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>>150161070
I've only faced on so far, and at that time I had no idea what the fuck it was. I think that surprise factor is one of the advantages of the deck.
>>
Are people unironically saying that Barnes is bad? He's a beast in any Deathrattle heavy deck. Doesn't matter if it's a 1/1 if it has a good Deathrattle.

>Loot Hoarder
>Huckster
>Xaril
>Sylvanas
>Cairne
>Tirion
>Pretty much any Hunter beast card with Deathrattle

The list goes on and on. Just getting any of these is good value.
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>>150160987
>I just shit all over someone's fun
Eh, sure. Most of the time astral meme druid just loses the game because he draws like shit or he gets and the enemy surrenders on turn 5 because there is no way of keeping up.
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>>150161314
they don't know true VALUE if it hit them in the face anon
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>>150156261
"no"

Why bring this up? Who brought this up? Is this like, being seriously discussed by Blizzard?
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>>150156261
yes
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>assemble combo deck
>opponent either kills me or concedes before i can pull off the combo
i just want to have fun for once
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>>150157137
Here's what you do;

buy packs. You gotta get a lotta gold, so make sure you do your dailies and always try to win as much as you can in Ranked, even if you lose a bunch. It's all about that 10g per 3 wins.

Find a streamer/Youtuber to watch. Trump Teachings, while a bit slow and autistic, is very good for beginners to watch to get a feel for the game. Watching other people play even the semi-serious decks in the game will help you tremendously.

Stay in Ranked, not Casual. Casual is completely random, while Ranked will generally put you with people at your skill range. However, the new season will start, so a lot of people will have their ranks reset very soon. This means you'll have stiff competition for a week or so on Ranked. Tread with caution.

Look up "Hidden Quests". Doing stuff like beating all the Practice bosses on Expert and other things will earn you gold, which you can use on Classic packs, something you'll want to really stack up on.

Always OPEN first, then CRAFT. Never craft commons unless you -need- to. Never craft Rares unless you -need- to. Epics are generally trite, and the first legendary you should aim for is Sylvanas.

Don't pre-order/save a bunch of gold for Karazhan unless you're really feeling the HS vibe. Hell, doing the latter will probably be counter-productive to your eventual collection.

Have fun, and don't take the game too seriously.
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>>150161314
I think we should wait until they release more cards to know if barnes is good or not
doesn't really matter if it has synergy with deathrattle decks if games are determined in turn 4-8 most of the time and N'Zoth is still too slow to play.
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>>150161682
But how could hearthstone be called e-sports if there is no yogg?
>>
The meta is always regarded as being "too fast" regardless of the expansion/adventure count we're on.

Has there ever been a time where the meta was "slow"?
>>
Which one of you nerds want to do the friend quest.
Happyfeet#219243
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>>150162925
no people are crybabbies 100% of the time

this game will always be curvestone because of the nature of the mana system
>>
>>150163015
Added on Bangladesh
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>>150161682
It should be. Bans need to be in the eSports version of this game so there aren't any obscenely lucky victories. Imagine if Yogg decided a final game for 100K? That would be just disgusting.

What about a deck type that is cancerous? We have had tournaments before where ALL 32 players brought the exact same netdeck freeze mage.

As a viewer you want new decks after a bit of that.

These little things would cause Hearthstone to be a #2 eSport rather then just #3 or 4 that it is now.
>>
Fuck man Kripp just died, like frfr
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>>150162925
the best meta was post LoE

sure there were secret paladins everywhere, but there were tons of control warrior and priest too and lots of fun golden monkey games

the current meta is shit in comparison, almost as bad as naxx
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>>150163257
What does 'frfr' mean?

I'm afraid I'm not hip these days.
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>>150163316
post LoE there was Aggro Shaman and Combo Druid too
>>
>>150163316
The best metas is always the month after an expansion/adventure is released, since everyone is trying stuff out.
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>>150163170
Are you sure?
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I wonder what the portal cards will be?

Druid: Emerald Dream Portal
>4 mana: Place two Dream cards into your hand

Priest: Sunwell Portal
>8 mana: summon a random 6-cost minion, restore health to your hero equal to its health.

Shaman: Maelstrom Portal
>5 mana: Summon a random Elemental. Overload (2).

Warlock: Outland Portal
>6 mana: destroy a friendly demon and replace it with a demon that costs 2 more mana.
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>>150163383
for real for real
>>
>>150163383
kRIP
>>
Dum priests
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>>150163576
>8 mana: summon a random 6-cost minion, restore health to your hero equal to its health.

why did you make this 8 mana

do you work for blizzard?
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>>150163537
not him but i was probably the first one to add you (literall 5 seconds after your post) and no replies.
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>>150163576
>4 mana: Place two Dream cards into your hand
Slow but good.

>8 mana: summon a random 6-cost minion, restore health to your hero equal to its health.
Terrible. It's a Priest card so that's to be expected but come on.

>5 mana: Summon a random Elemental. Overload (2).
Bad, since the best elemental you can get is Fire Elemental and Earth Elemental (You would just run Earth Elemental in the first place). Getting Rumbling Elemental is just bad.

>6 mana: destroy a friendly demon and replace it with a demon that costs 2 more mana.
Yet again suffers from being slow and RNG, and not even the good kind.
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>>150163383
Smash that mf like button and ill tell you
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>>150163576
that isn't what Priest needs, it has plenty mid-lategame answers
it needs to be something like
>4 Mana: Summon a random 3-cost minion (or less) from the enemy deck and deal damage to a random enemy equal to it's health

It just needs decent ways to get control of the board without losing tempo
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>>150162925
>>150163068
The game favors "fast" decks in general.

- The fact that the ladder system encourages quickly finishing multiple games rapidly for both quests and legend grinding

- The nature of combat allowing the aggressor to decide trades and snowball the game.

- The guaranteed mana a turn system.

- The power level and efficiency of minions far outclassing the overcosted single target removal and aoe (except warrior's).

- Deathrattle making most reactive cards unable to go 1 for 1.

- The simple fact that faster decks have more consistent openers and are less prone to bad hands.

- The inability to influence or disrupt your opponent's actions on their turn aside from secrets.

- Charge and Burn cards with the above.
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>>150163921
Does the server matter?
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How do other card games handle zoo decks? It feels like zoo goes unpunished for using low minions especially combine with this game horrible rng
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>mfw priest running PW:glory and auchenei in the same deck
>mfw exact lethal him from 26 because we're both rank 20 in the last hour of the season
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>>150164207
Swarming is risky because there's a chance you trigger a free Flamestrike
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>>150164207
other card games have cheaper mass removal
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>mulligan four cards
>get the exact same cards

I want to know what the odds are for this.
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>>150164207
Affinity tier 1 since inception.
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>tfw tirion/redemption combo saved me from worgen warrior
Praise the Light I hit rank 5,im parking right there cant deal with this ladder anymore
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>>150164447
1/26 * 1/26 * 1/26 * 1/26
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>>150164207
Duelyst player here. Zoo decks aren't that hard to deal with since, unlike Hearthstone, there are actual cards that punish people for going to Zoo route (Pic related, and this isn't even expensive. You start with 2 mana if you go first or 3 mana if you go second and automatically gain a mana crystal each turn until it caps at 9)

Not to mention each hero has an innate 2 Attack. So that means you can only hit the Hero once before it dies (Since practically every Zoo card has <2 Health). It's only Hearthstone that has a major Zoo problem thanks to the point described in
>>150164080
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>>150164390
Do you play DM still? Isn't it JP only now? I think it has no virtual version either. I saw a westernized version of it but it looked like shit.
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>Cabalist's Tome into Cabalist's Tome into Ice Block against OTK warrior
Tempo Mage is just pure fucking skill
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>>150164632
>Do you play DM still?
Never got to competitively unfortunately. Just casually with some school lads and the games.
>Isn't it JP only now?
Yup. Pretty fucking crazy shit they're doing with it now. More or less an MTG testing ground from what I hear.
>I think it has no virtual version either.
Yeah just a few games, all of which have less than half of the OCG sets.
>I saw a westernized version of it but it looked like shit.
Kaijudo, which they discontinued after like 4 sets.
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>>150164702
>Playing vs OTK warrior
>He drops Emperor and probably has lethal for the next turn
>Drop Brann into peddler into double poweroverwhelming
>Triple power overwhelming my minion for lethal
>He adds me and gives me hate mail.
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>>150164546
>>150164702
>have brann in hand, draw twin emp
>otk warrior wasted his removal earlier
I roped every turn and BMed, fuck otk warriors with an aids dick
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>>150164207
i play mtg. - moden specifically. zoo is one of the top decks but there are cheap (2-4 mana) boardwipes that start at "deal 2 to all creatures for 2, deal 3 for 3, destroy all creatures for 4"

also the zoo creatures aren't leaving behind a body when they die, You can mana flood, and you don't get to draw 2 cards a turn like warlock..
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>>150164207
It's only Hearthstone that has overcosted mass removal.

The HS devs can't into card design.
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>>150164702
Tempo Mage players should just die
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help me climb im really bad

www.twitch tv/meowthod

no flame pls yes im trap
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>>150165057
In other games aggro decks kill you in 3 turns though.
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>>150164207
hearthstone board wipes are hot garbage
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>>150165169
get bigger tits faggot
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>>150165057
The overcosting of removal is an intentional decision though, they WANT the game to be minion focused.

Just look at all the past nerfs, with the exception of undertaker, they have almost all been targeted towards combo decks.
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>>150165169
not even a convincing one either
dont waste your time boys
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>>150165331
>Make the game minion focused
>Give priests a lack of ways to get tempo/minions efficiently

Bravo game design blizz
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>>150165453
no u
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>>150165169
>Picks gadgetzan late against a pirate warrior
>instead of taunt minion
>PUNISHED SHITTER
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>>150164606
Is it confirmed that if you mulligan an one off card you will never get it back?
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>>150165493
Would it really be that game breaking to give Priests good early game that can synergise later one?
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does the ladder reset on the 31st or the 1st?
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>>150165331
>Just look at all the past nerfs, with the exception of undertaker, they have almost all been targeted towards combo decks.
some cards nerfed early on: novice engineer, shattered sun cleric, abusive sergeant, dark iron dwarf, argent commander, blood imp, defender of argus,
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>>150165686
Yes.
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>>150165801
The good old days of zoo with 3/3 ssc, perma buff did, and the best blood imp was give all your minions +1 health.
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>>150163231
>disgusting
no it'd be beautiful, because then all you tryhard faggots would stop mucking up a fun and silly game.
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>>150165493
>Give class incredibly powerful multi-card combos
>No way to draw them consistently

>Their only consistent card draw draws you cards that you don't want
>Even their best draw engine requires other cards to use or to be ahead on board
>Hero power is the only one in the game that can do nothing, actually nothing, unless you are ahead on board
>Class has no way to get ahead on board
>Doesn't even have a good turn two play

>Class actually can't kill minions that are not vulnerable to its weak aoe or extremely conditional removal
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>>150165801
I guess I should have mentioned that I was talking post-release of the game.
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>Trump is climbing with hunter although his winrate is 50% except for the warrior match up

top kek game, hearth babs.
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>coin call of the wild turn 7 into call of the wild turn 8

so this is what it feels like to bullshit your opponent to death, I've never played these types of decks before

granted you get absolutely fucked a lot of the time because hunter has 0 card draw
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>>150166305
I'm not sure what you're getting at but I don't see anything wrong
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>>150166305
Okay? I'm not even sure what you're trying to imply here, that hunter is bad or something? That warrior is too good?
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>>150166305
What is your point Rafaam.

I hate this Tavern Brawl. It's on par with the webspinner brawl. There is no strategy involved, it's just 100% pure RNG. Pic related. No strategy involved other than praying to Lady Luck.
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>>150166137
Priest is a shitter. How can so many of you defend a class with Cabal Shadow Priest?

>muh inherent 3-for-1
So much skill.
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>>150166723
It's one good card out of the 15+ bad ones.
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>>150166305
It's almost like you can achieve success in card games by not playing the best deck, but targeting the best one.

>>150166723
Priest is my least played class, but anyone with eyes can see the class is intentionally held back. Mind Control was nerfed not because Blizzard felt it was too strong, but because it "felt bad" to play against.

That has basically been the state of the entire class since launch, it's not strong, but it's frustrating to lose to.
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>>150117090
>not muting everyone at the start of each game
They can only play the psychological make you mad game if you let them.

Though it is kind of a mystery why auto-mute isn't an option. It's not even like it would be hard. One dev, five minutes.
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>>150167058
>That has basically been the state of the entire class since launch, it's not strong, but it's frustrating to lose to.
Which is another reason why I'm glad Priest is garbage. 8 classes is enough anyway.
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>>150118613
If you're losing to it that much, I see no reason why he shouldn't run it.

Hell, he's even killing your fun. That's victory on two levels.
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Hearthstone, at its core, is not designed for a class like Priest to be successful. So what’s the problem with that and why does it damage Priest? Well firstly, spells are bad. How many removal spells in Hearthstone can actually take care of a minion and simultaneously allow you to improve your board position on the same turn? Sap can do it, Hex can have a good stab at it, and sometimes Fireball will get the job done. But, on the whole, clearing the board using a spell instead of a minion means passing the initiative back to your opponent to refill with another threat. There’s no point having all the answers if your opponent is never going to run out of questions.

At the root of this is the fact that taking the initiative in Hearthstone—whether you want to call it tempo, or being the one asking the questions—is way too powerful. Unlike other card games, the attacker in Hearthstone controls 100% of the play, so the person who is ahead on the board is the one who dictates the pace of the entire game. They can choose to demand specific responses from an opponent, or hold back and allow the status quo to continue. It’s this dynamic that makes cards like Excavated Evil, or even Lightbomb—a bygone hero of a forgotten age—ineffective. Sure, you can blow up three or four of your opponent’s minions, but you’ve spent your whole turn doing it, allowing your opponent to jam a few more dudes back on the board and put you back in the same spot.

So how do we fix it? Blizzard could opt to print more tempo based removal cards for Priest. Things that occupy the board at the same time as answering threats from the opponent. (Think cards like Imp-losion or Blood to Ichor.) This would then allow them to start using their Hero Power, Northshire Cleric, and buffs like Power Word: Shield to build an advantage. Pic related for example, it allows you to develop a body while at the same time doing something to the board-state. These are the kinds of cards Priest needs.
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>>150167270
The thing is, I think it probably should have fit some space to block combo decks, but fucking BogChamp is better as a shaman deck than it is a priest deck.

The problem is, idiots bitch about combo decks, so I think if you could just make it so that priest counters combo I think it would allow combos and make aggro shitters happy that they can play without thought.
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>>150166723
if CSP works in very specific situations though, if your opponent has no 2 attack minions then it's a dead card in your hand, and it's not always that it switches tempo or gains you the game. Yes, sometimes you get that Flamewaker or an Imp Gang Boss, but most of the time you get nothing.
If Boulderfist Ogre is the baseline for stats for a 6 Drop, then CSP has really bad stats, so dropping it naked to the board means you are fucked anyways.

The ability is great, it's just that the cost and stats make the card shit. If it was a 4 mana card with low stats like 2/2 it would be great though, but 6 mana makes it hard to get value of the battlecry
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>>150166310
Why is Medivh such a hunk?
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>>150167461
hilariously overpowered but it gives zooshitters the dick so whatever
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>>150167549
Any time you steal anything that was a card in the other persons hand with CSP you are getting an inherent 3-for-1.

Think about that.
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>>150167461
>an effect that is greater than one dammage slapped onto a x cost 2x+1 worth of stats where x is less than 7
no, fuck off with this power creep bullshit. giving a shit class broken cards, just makes it a coinflip of weather or not you draw those cards (see: call of the wild). we need to actually fix the game, not continually break it with powercreep on the currently weak classes.
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>>150167461
make it 3\4 and its almost balanced
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80 Gold quest
Waxcommon#1509
NA
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>>150167696
statwise yeah, but the ability is legit, and anyways, 1 OP card against zoo wont break the meta (unlike CoW, since it works against literally anything), it would just make Priest good vs Zoo, but still weak vs Shaman.

I wish Priest had a removal like:
>6 mana, Destroy all minions, heal your opponent for 1 health for each one.
I think it's fair all around
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>>150167696
>>150167732
>>150167770
>>150167786
Why don't they just give priest a way to undo a battle cry. It could resurrect stuff if it was killed with damage resulting from a battlecry.

I think it would be a really interesting way to punish and potentially force unfavorable trades just to avoid the card.
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>>150167770
It's only good against Zoo/Aggro, thought. Against other classes it's just a natural 4/5 you can play on curve. Priest should be the "Fuck you Aggro" class in my opinion. If the opponent only has a two drop on the field then it just attacks face with it and goes back to the opponents side. Might be more balanced as a 3/4 though, yeah.
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>>150167732
yeah, and like I said, it costs 6 mana which really makes it hard to play and get the 3-1 value.
In this meta turn 2 is critical, and a game is decided on 4-5, so you can steal that Flamewaker, but lose anyways because you got your health burned beforehand.

I'm not saying that CSP ability isn't huge for tempo, but is it really that good if it gets played so rarely with that good effect? (and most of the times it steals an Abusive Sargent or something that doesn't win you the match).
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>>150167983

You can clearly see how much folks want Priest to stay in the nerf barrel, especially after Emtomb, despite how comically inept Priest has been in the last few months.

It'll literally take Blizzard saying "HEY PRIEST IS THE NEW POWER CLASS NOW" for them to accept it, and even then you can expect two thread's worth of Zoo and Aggro shitters throwing a fit about how low-power their decks suddenly are.
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>>150167983
Alternatively you could go along with their original themes and have a card like CSP that copies the battlecry of a minion.
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>>150119539
>wild
>cuck
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>>150167270
To be fair, if the current priest was the meta, it would be awful.

>>150167461
While it's true that priest is just all answers in a game that favors questions, priest also struggles in consistency.

All its best cards either rely on other cards to be effective, or have a condition attached to them. They have too much reliance on synergies and too few cards that are just good on their own.

Shadow Word Death is a good card, but your opponent plays twin emperor and you cry.

Cabal is amazing when it hits something like imp-gang, but when your opponent does not have a target and you want to advance your own board state, it's a 6 mana yeti, and yeti is not considered playable at 4 mana.

Priest really wants a 2 drop that they can just toss out, or something as universal as damage based removal instead of X minions only or relying on auchenai to convert heals.
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>>150168189
I think that the funniest thing about it all is how blizzard thought there needed to be a necessary drawback for priest having a 3 damage 5 mana clear, when shaman has a 4-5 damage 5 mana, counting lava shock.
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>>150123415
>naxx 54 cards
>BRM 76 cards
>LoE 95 cards
>Kara 28 cards

fixed for oyu
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would a 2 mana 3/2 with an ability like Heal 1-2 health to all enemies be way too OP?
it would be the answer to Totem Golem (which is basically what dictates if your 2 drop is good or bad)
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>>150168517
Kara is 45 cards m8
http://www.hearthpwn.com/guides/1548-one-night-in-karazhan-a-hearthstone-adventure
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When people say priest is unfun to play against why are they conveniently ignoring all the other bullshit like leeroy triple po or tuskarr into golem?
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>>150168462
Warlock has stronger AoE than priest, just think about that for a second. The class cards that are (mostly) held back because of lifetap are stronger.

Just compared Excavated Evil to fucking Brawl.

>>150168560
Why would a 2 mana 3/2 with a downside be OP?
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>>150168462
Even worse is that Blizzard thought Shadow Word: Horror is legit.

Pic related is an actual card in Duelyst and isn't considered OP at all (Unless you're a Zoo shitter). I can guarantee that SW:H would be 100% playable if it destroyed everything with <3 Attack. The drawback here being that it destroys all minions with <3 Attack, not just the enemy minions. Clearly this wasn't enough for Blizzard.

As >>150167058 put it, Blizzard is intentionally holding the class back.
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i think we all can agree that replacing priest with deathknight/monk would be the best course of action
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>>150168815
because you can combo it for the clear with Embrace the Shadows or Auchenai for a boardclear + facedamage in turn 4-6
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>>150168859
>mfw Priest is my favorite class.

Hell, it's /hsg/'s favorite class by a majority vote. Every single time /hsg/ has a poll asking which class is your favorite, Priest unanimously comes out on top, and I've been in this general since post-Beta.
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>>150168803

People can only see what's physically stolen from them off the board and judge Priest on that.

Nevermind the 400 burst damage they have in hand that the Priest is about to eat for breakfast, because that's all just skill.
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>>150168803
I would rather just be killed by Leeroy than have my Thalnos stolen and lose slowly over 11 more turns even though I fucking knew I had lost on turn 6.
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>>150168803
Because you're dead right when it happens, while when priest removes all your shit with shadow words, light bombs, and entombs you have to sit through the slog fest until fatigue and watch him play your cards against you. I rather die to 4x PO on turn 6 then go to fatigue in a game where I have like 10% chance to win.
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>>150168803
Something about losing to your own cards hits a certain nerve on a lot of people. There are more powerful classes though, that is sort of the discussion.

>>150168831
Technically plasma storm was nerfed twice so perhaps not the best example.

>>150168972
At that point it's just a worse pyromancer, another two card board clear is not what priest needs. Priest also hates 3/2s because they can't heal them effectively.
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Has someone asked Brode or the dev team about why priest is so weak and if they are working on something?
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>>150168803
Because its like trying to play chess against a tic tac toe player. Priest is a thinking man's class, and most other players can't handle that.
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>>150169284
Hey, there's gonna be an Q&A coming up pretty soon that features Ben Brode.

Maybe we can ask him why he nerfed Mind Control instead of other cards that aren't fun to play against. Most likely he'll just ignore the question though since it's subtly admitting they are not good card game designers.
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>>150169284

4 Mana Spell: "Shadow Realm, Jimbo!"

If your opponent controls more minions than you, destroy ALL minions. If this effect activates, your opponent cannot summon a minion on their next turn.
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>>150169338
>copy a random spell from your opponent
ULU
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>>150168997
Yeah, but /hsg/ is full of sissy white boy rank 15 shitters, so that makes sense.
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>>150168997
literally the most autistic class
>i will have total control!
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>>150169393
Better yet ask him why they never seem to want to buff cards.
There are intentionally underpowered cards in the Basic set of the game that are just doing nothing and could be turned into actually useful cards.
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>Priest Legendary - 5 Mana - 3/4
>As long as X is in play you may overheal (Health won this way won't be lost when X is out of play)

what do you think?
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>>150169667
>There are intentionally underpowered cards in the Basic set of the game that are just doing nothing and could be turned into actually useful cards.

Ben pretty much answered this when everyone was throwing a fuss about Ice Rager. He used some PR lingo to make it look pretty but basically it's:

"We want new players to spend real money on card packs so we purposely make bad cards in the Basic set to incentivize new people to buy more packs."
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>>150169603
That's a funny way to spell Warrior
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>>150169746
Garbage.
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Speaking of classes left in the shitter, when will rogue get something?

Clearly extremely slow value cards and deathrattle memes aren't helping it any.
Nothing Blizzard has done has been able to peel them off their crippling reliance on gadgetzan, and it looks like burgle memes are going to be the next failed archetype in a long line of failed rogue archetypes.
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>>150169746
i like giving all my minions 8 health and then losing them in the brawl
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>>150169839
Priest is like a warrior who also wants to take your cards and use them against you. You have to admit that is an incredible level of autism.
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>tfw every pack you open is always 4 commons and a rare that you already have
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>>150169746
2 mana - Give a character 5 health, Draw a card.
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>>150169887
>when will rogue get something

Dude you just Ethereal conjurer...PLAY BURGLE FAGGOT
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>There will never be Priest early game like Dark Cultist every again.

Deathlord would count if it wasn't a neutral card. Can this be the new Deathlord?
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>>150170029
I don't want a pit fighter with an effect that isn't worth playing bad cards for though.
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>>150170081
>Obyelysk
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Every class except Priest/Paladin has strong ways to tempo swing

- Warrior has weapons, 1 mana removals and free whirlwinds
- Shaman has overload and thing-from-below
- Druid has innervate
- Mage has undercosted spells and apprentice/flamewaker
- Warlock has high tempo 1/2/3 drops and 1 mana tempo spells like PO and SF
- Rogue has prep and combo
- Paladin has... not much, mostly just truesilver now
- Priest has... cabal at 6 mana... and maybe auchenai if you have some stupid combo

Anyone have any ideas for Priest/Paladin tempo swing mechanics?

I was thinking Priest should have a way to mind control a 2 drop cheaply at the cost of the 2 drop attacking the Priest's face every turn (so you could make use of your hero power, and it's sort of similar to a weapon)

Or a minion that costs less for each unspent mana from last turn (e.g. a 5 mana 3/5 taunt that costs (1) less for each unspent mana at the end of your last turn, making it cost 3 mana if you pass turn 2)
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>>150169284
They'll just give you Priest "has yet to uncover his true potential" and that "there's a secret deck that player have yet to discover" bullshit. Just because Brode won two games in a row at rank 20 while trying Deathwing Dragonlord Priest or something.

> "Brode, there's a problem"
>"HAHHAHAHAHAHA, no there isn't"

They're incompetent, lazy and delusional like that
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>>150170209
Aldor is pretty decent tempo for pally.
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>>150170179
Whoops.
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>>150170081
>Dark Cultist

They will bring something like that back. Anyone who has ever played WoW can tell you how good they are at recycling content. Half the new cards were already compared to Naxx cards by Brode in the presentation except now they fit a RNG meta better. Expect cards like them to return
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>>150170226
Reynads Unicorn Priest deck is really fun though. It just cant hang as much with the top competitve decks
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New thread?
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why do people keep saying dark cultist would be good for priest

it's a vanilla 3/4 when you have no 2 drop

you know we've already got a c'thun 3/4 right?

it was NEVER good in priest

we need DEATHLORD
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>>150169887
Rogue isn't in that bad of a spot. They kind of lack consistency but giving them that would bring us back to old miracle days.
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>>150170226
>Buzzard unleash is a powerful combo, but you can play around it by not playing many minions.
>Undertaker is strong, but we don't feel it is an issue.
>We have no plans to nerf Doctor Boom
>We are carefully monitoring patron warrior and do not feel it is too strong.
>We wanted paladin secrets to be played more, guess we overdid it. No changes needed though.
>Druid combo is not oppressive to the game

Blizzard is just not good at admitting mistakes.
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Why does Mage always have Frostbolt and Fireball when they need it?
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>>150170796
>>150170796
>>150170796
new thread
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>>150170809
>>150170809
>>150170809
>>150170809

new
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>>150169746
probably wouldn't see play at 3 mana
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>>150170896
You are too slow
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>>150170831
>>150170896
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>>150170627
>it was NEVER good in priest

Confirmed for being a new player and not experiencing Undertaker Deathrattle Priest right after Naxxramas. It was the best spot Priest has ever been in.
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>>150170209
Paladin has equality, aldor like the other guy mentioned and Keeper is a pretty good tempo swing. So was MC back in the day.
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>tune into trumps ft2
>facing nothing but meme decks on his way to legend
Why is this allowed?
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>>150168997
Ran the big poll earlier this year. Can confirm.

By the way we should run another of those soon.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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