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/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist and Payday 2

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Pdg-tan character pack edition

Previous Murky Station heist: >>149515415

>(NEW) Workshop Manual
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/workshopmanual/

>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (Frank is back)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://pd2skills.com/

>Old Skilltree Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide (out of date, somebody update this shit already):
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
http://pastebin.com/jivyLi3A

>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
http://albertkung.com/bigoil/

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHEkCM3fTrc
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First for baby Sokol
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Biker-chan's infinite health!
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who /best smg/ here ?
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Reminder that there will never be another 3 day job.
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>>149984637
Third for I'm a newshitter and I don't quite understand how hysteria works with Frenzy and the gray and blue bars around my health
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>>149985589
>using frenzy
Kill yourself.
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>>149985745
It's not like I use it to be honest. I'm most of a DODGE kind of guy. Going fast is funner for me. I just don't know how the maniac perk deck works.
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>>149985589
Hysteria gives you extra armor (aka the blue bar) as long as you fuck the shit of your enemies. You stop to hurt them, your extra bonus armor drop.

Frenzy reduces the damage that cops inflict to you so it makes your extra armor even more powerful.
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>>149986365
The tiny white circle is the number of stacks right? Thanks.
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>>149986950
No you fucking retard
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11th for COME ON YOU LAZY SHIET
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>>149987087
Then what is the white circle inside my health?
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>>149987656
Stamina you haxhud shitter
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I feel like this discussion is actually about the Maniac perk deck, not Haxhud.

In that case, the white inner circle would be your damage meter, a meter of how much damage that you dealt will be translated to the blue damage reduction.
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>>149987656
the number of damages that you inflicts to cops. Once it's full, it converts for a bit of extra armor, depending on how heavy/big your armor is.
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Is the Bernetti still a good secondary pistol to use or the Deagle and the 80 damage ones totally cuck it ?
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>>149987656
Em, I don't use mods. It's a grey bar inside my health.

>>149988521
>>149988530
Yeah. Thanks.
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Bain ?
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>>149990751
Haven't we had this discussion before? Shit is in who gets the jump on first between JACKET and CHAINS since they're cannonically the best suited for the job.
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Does using berserker remove all the health regen from Infiltrator perk deck ?
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>>149991802
Just gambler from others I think.
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>>149990751
Almir will protect you as long as you pay 4.99 dollars.
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>>149992637
No he won't.

Paying him a million dollars won't motivate him to lift a single finger for your sake.

That is the OVK M.O.
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>>149996496
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Did update 100 make Deathwish jobs easier to do now?
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>>149998321
DW is a joke right now
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>>149998795
Because of Frenzy?
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>>150000698
Frenzy is literally cheating
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>>150000795
Frenzy + Inspire
Will the devs remove this
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>>150000912
Kill yourself
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>>150000985
Not if someone inspires me, I wont
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>usually plays Overkill
>decide to play some deathwish stealth with pubs
>pre-infamy 1s not knowing what they're doing
>25-100 shitters
>cheaters with skin unlockers thinking they have suppressors on
>people actually kicking eachother
Now I know the horror that this general speaks of.
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I CAN'T SEE SHIT
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>>150003070
SIT ON THIS CINDERELLA
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guys

what if

payday 2

was good
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>>150004264
Xplain
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>>150004264
What even is a good game anymore?
Fuckin'
Vice City?
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>>150004264
>Payday 2
>good
I'm not sure how these two things could ever be related to each other. Overkill and quality games are like two magnets pushing away from each other. No matter how hard you try the two will never touch.
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>>150000000
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>>150006813
Cancer.
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How many tasers have you killed using the taser or the electric brass knuckles /pdg/?
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>>150008124
Zero but i still love mind breaking them with those toys.
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/pdg/ is now in police custody
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>>150010389
>being in custody post update 100

Don't be tricky, Chains hate tricky
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Is DW easier or harder after update 100?
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Where the fuck are my automatic pistols Overkill ? Having the Stryk 18c brown instead of black is just retarded.
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>>150011445
In theory not that much but with the frenzy and stockholm syndrome aced bugs, it's a fucking lot more easier
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>>150006408
payday 1 was pretty good
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10865748
Best heister?
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>>150013754
Sexy Dallas a best
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>>150013754
WOLF HAS TAKEN THE LEAD
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R8 my shit gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL0zYNRnW8g
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Hi, I'm SolarPleTeX, and I'm addicted to achievements.

I've been using the site for a couple years but never got around to joining until I heard about the achievement trading threads. I'm not that hardcore of a gamer, and I don't play many games but when I do, I can't stop until perfect every aspect of it. Now, I've reached the point of my gaming career where my games have online-only achievements and all my friends play Steam games on the PC so they're no help.

I was able to live with it when Halo 3 and Halo 3 ODST came out (lol vidmaster challenges) because I'm not that great of a FPS player (despite playing lots of FPS games) but now, I feel that my achievements list needs more zeroes in it. So, I'm poking my head in here to see if I could get a couple boosting parties going for a couple "old" games and then work through my backlog and then help other people out too =) (because I hate being a leech).

Here's to unlocking more achievements.
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>>150013754
WHO THE FUCK IS THE NIGGER THAT PUT A CAPTCHA ON IT FUCK YOU THE PICTURES JUST FADE AWAY WHEN YOU CLICK ON IT AND YOU CANT VERIFY FUCK YOU YOUR POLL DOESNT DESERVE MY VOTE MOTHERFUCKER
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>>150016761
You're fucking retarded
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Thoughts on the Carshop job?
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>>150016919
Shit and unpubbieable. If they removed the timer after getting the cars, it would be actually okay.
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>>150016853
the pictures fade away and it doesn't matter how many you click they just keep coming
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>>149984859
Why is Sokol so cute?
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>>150017213
Kill yourself
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Someone post the webm of Update 100 shotgun accuracy from hip and from sights.
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What are some /pdg/ approved videos/channels?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-NZbOtfELo
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>>150015114
>golden AK
why?
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>>150014329
>wolffags

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>>150017674
generalmcfatass
anything involving Tribe in it.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7pgIygczwk
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>>150013754
Jacket going strong.
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Is Casino still unoptimized?
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Is inspire a necessity for Deathwish?
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>>150020820
a bit

still getting some frame drops when going into the back
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I hate solarmemex
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ded
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How come you make $16m from breaking Hoxton out? Is it ever explained in game where you get that cash from?
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Help me /pd2g/, I recently got the Heist, and am getting potato frames, even on 1280x720 minimal everything

for reference the machine I'm (trying) to play on is running
Core 2 Quad 2.6 GHz
6GB of ram
Nvidia GT 520

how do I make Payday run good?
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>>150027671
>low shadows
>low textures
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>>150028191
yes and yes
I said minimal everything, didn't I?
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>>150027671
Are you using shadow map mod? If not use it.
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>>150027671
>1280x720

that's not minimal
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>>150013049
No it wasn't.
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>>150021320
No, inspire is a crutch. Git gud
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>>150028872
I'd rather not go smaller, but if nothing else works, I'll have try 640x480
>>150028726
I'll try it, I hope this works
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>>150015114
whats the heist at 03:10?
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>>150027460
Nope.
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>>150015642
did he actually type this
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>>150037151
Of course not retard
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>>149958770
>>149963004
>>149967001
>>149972431
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Will Walk Faceless Among Men (kosugi_4)
- Target Practice: Melee Weapon (melee_35_kills)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>149989016
he judge cucks all of the pistols
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>there are people out there RIGHT NOW playing the game with vanilla, 4 directional, static damage arcs.
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>>150040331
>make a revolver
>call it a shotgun
What did OVK mean by this?
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>>150041532
>Taurus Judge
>Caliber: .410 Bore
See: pic related
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>>150041532
Are you one of those idiots that thinks miniguns aren't real too
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SHITTERS
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This achievement was easier than what i though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yv-BvUyXKA
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>>150045392
>that fov
how do you not get sick playing with such low fov
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>>150045806
i have grown into it
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>>150045998
grow out of it because jesus christ my eyes
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>>150046158
Just checked and i had it on the lowest setting.Turned it to the max and what a difference holy shit
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im so bored of OK aftershock but I really want money and levels
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best heist(s) for money?
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>all these fun heists that don't pay out good money or exp

>all these boring heists that pay out good money and exp
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>>150048270
Just wait for update 200 to "fix" this
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maxed out my first perkdeck sociopath
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>>150048805
which perk deck should I go for next?
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>>150048929
crook
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>watching clover's hair clip and glitch all over the place
No wonder why Sydney's hair is that ugly but static mess.
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>>150049050
>Implying Clover isn't uglier in every way than Sydney.
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>>150049328
clover's mask is better
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tfw cant do this on DW
tfw still not level 100
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>>150050842
y not
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>>150050842
I could help you with it, it's one of my favorite dw heists
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>>150048026
plz respond
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>>150040202
>kosugi,

So the rumors about Almir throwing his weaboo knowledge during the development of this heist were true in the end.
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french heister when
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>buy heist
>game crashes before loading the lobby
GOD
FUCKING
DAAAAAAAMNED
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Don't mind me, just posting best mask of the game.
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>>150056182
that is not Tinted Love
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>>150056007
get good
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>mfw Overkill decide to make DW difficult again by nerfing the number of skillpoints
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>>150058579
>119.1
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>>150055092
hawaiian heister when

also holy fuck cook off DW is hard as fuck
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>>150058429
>bug
>get good
Kill yourself.
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>>150059485
cook off dw is ez
literally just get good
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>>150059581
>Literally just run frenzy anarchist :^)
kill yourself
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>>150059641
I didn't mention anarchist frenzy? I've done that heist all the time with a fucking sociopath build, get fucking good you shitter.
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>>150060018
>sociopath build
frenzy sociopath is just as broken
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>>150060316
I don't use frenzy on it?? Jeez kiddo, I get you're bad but it's not frenzy's fault that you can't do a basic fucking heist like dw cook off. If you really need this much help and hate frenzy this god damn much I can make a muscle build for you and give you pointers on how not to die.
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I miss the old days when grinder was OP. Am i the only one ?
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>>150061659
It's still good and still fun, so no not really.
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I'm never doing this piece of shit heist ever again

>32 minutes for this
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>>150062284
>cropping out difficulty
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>>150062464
it was overkill
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>>150062525
>taking that long on babby mode
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>>150062284
>not opening the ATM and emptying the cash registers

unprofessional/10
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Answer me honestly /pdg/ : will the safehouse customization end up being good ?
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>>150063912
nope
and overkill is gonna hype it like crazy to make it even more disappointing
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>>150063745
I actually bring a real secondary weapon instead of a memesaw
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>>150065704
>he enjoyed lockpicking the five doors at the beginning of the level
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>>150065870
I'm just going through all the missions blind for the first time I didn't know about the doors
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>tfw Frenzy/Beserker + Overkill with Flechette shotguns

this should be illegal
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>>150067763
>tfw frenzy/berserker/anarchist with overkill flechette shotguns and a saw
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>>150068073
actually I tried yakuza instead of anarchist, cuz of the similarity to beserker

worked pretty well
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whats a good mission to farm perkdecks on overkill
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>>150063745
Train heist and goat simulator. Can't promise fun but at least it will be a nice change of pace.
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>>150070430
Shit, meant for >>150069736
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>Tazer/Cloaker deaths dont let you trigger messiah at all

nice fucking game design faggot swedes
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>>150071342
>weak cops do 89583098593085903 damage a shot with an RPM of 5981958192842194912

nice fucking game design faggot swedes
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>Try to run game
>crashes as soon as I enter Crime.net
This is weird
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>>150072494
are you using the blt hook and if so check your logs
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>>150072563
Was there an update?
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>>150072494
just get payday crashlog reader
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>>150072782
I already have visual studio, it doesn't tell me much tho
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>+3 concealment boosts
>33 concealment Bernetti
FUCK ME
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>Hoxton Breakout PRO overkill day 1
>move swat van
>40 second drill with drill perks
>breaks 6 fucking times
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Is Optical Illusion glitched?
I get a reduction in detection risk with no silencers weapons.
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>>149984637
Update fucking when ?
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>>150073220
>allowing enemies to stop the drill
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>>150072898
>4 concealment with Lebensauger and Gruber Kurz
Silent pew > regular pew
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>>150073230
yes I think ace gives like +3 concealment or something I can't remember
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Sako RK-95 when?
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>>150074260
there were no fucking enemies there

also whats wrong with Hoxton Breakout Pro?

Says 1.9m to 2.somethingM but I just did it and only got 1.3m
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>>150047774
Rats ovk pro is fun good money and goud exp
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>civilians STILL dont get marked by tripmine lasers

just... wow
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>>150073220
>no 3 Detection Risk with the Raven and the Micro-uzi both silenced

You're all vanillafags
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>Breakout 12g sounds great and looks great

>Is garbage
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Help me /pdg/
I'm addicted to the raven shotgun
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>>150078210
It can benefits from silencer skills unlike the macaroni or joceline, which makes it in the end as an inferior judge secondary considering its shit ammo pool. 10/10 Overkill
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>>150077330
At least, trip mines doesn't blow when civilians run into them anymore.
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>>150056007
>money
>meaningful
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>>150078936
They do.
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>>150078242
Why should we save you from perfection?
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>>150078210
>Is garbage

Might just be you man
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I'm still fucking pissed
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>>150048026
>>150053474
rats, bank heist gold, hotline miami (takes a little while though), hoxout
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BIG LOBBY WHEN
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Haven't been playing this shite for over a year. Don't know why I decided to return.
Any viable mastermind builds? Is Loco still the best secondary?
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what are some key things that i should know about deathwish
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>>150081086
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZNB5dksBryt0RR2F1T7dJEAz2b69yhdLTe7oLvj753w/edit?pref=2&pli=1


>any viable mastermind builds
pretty much everything is viable
inspire aced will make your teammates happy
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>>150081187
thanks
>inspire aced will make your teammates happy
as fockin' alwa
>This cannot occur more than once every 20 seconds.
brb helium tank
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>>150081378
>This cannot occur more than once every 20 seconds
at least it's 100% chance now
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>>150078242
>he doesn't use the underrated Predator 12G shotgun instead,
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>>150081378
As long as your team mates aren't mouth breathing retards, it's more reliable now
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>>150081378
>devs seriously believe that inspire aced was overpowered,

kys Overkill
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Is there anybody who used the medieval crossbows unironically ? Just curious.
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>>150083991

why would they fucking add this crap?
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>>150077330
There's a BLT mod on Lastbullet called 'Better Tripmines' that does just that. It also marks all enemies during loud in sensor mode, defaults to sensor during stealth, and prevents other players from toggling modes.
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>>150083991
Heavy Crossbow with HE arrows is pretty neato. One hits Tasers, Shields and Cloakers. Usually blows off faceplate and shatters visor of a Dozer in a single hit too.
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>>150084606
or you could just use a secondary HE judge and do the same thing but better
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>>150083991
Gage Medieval Pack is probably the worst Payday 2 DLC ever. Shit weapons, shit patterns, shit materials, shit masks that are straight ports and aren't even the Payday Chivalry helmets.
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>>150084490

>mods
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>>150075026
Drills are scripted to break only 3 times max. Has to have had enemies stopping it if it was 6 breaks.

Also the exp screen lies a lot because ther max based on the bag loot limit coded in but there are no bags so half of the heists just straight out lie to you.

The biggest example is Shadow Raid because the theoretical max is 30 bags but you can never get anywhere near that so exp payout will always be a large chunk lower than what Crime.net tells you. This whole exp-per-bag system was put in because OVK and steam forum retards got extra butthurt when people decided to ECM rush SR DW in pubs non-stop because of Infamy 2.0 instead of "doing it like it was meant to be".
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>>150083438
They probably nerfed it because of pubs using bots to tank assault waves instead of pubs inspiring each other.

OVK devs are really retarded when it comes to balance reasoning.
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>>150086001
J-javelins are n-nice.
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so whats the best perk deck for armor tank?
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>>150087378
True but it's still the worse DLC

>>150087865
Anarchist + Berserker + Frenzy
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>>150086862
>Not using something that has the potential to objectively make the game better and maybe even fun
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So is it normal to be able to just breeze loud with >>150090092 KSP + Chink puff without going down once?

Tanked the whole wave soloing boiling point for the achievement, never once did I go below half my ammo because of the pick up rate and they even added in a skill that lets you reload super fast which was two of the only weaknesses the KSP has ever had.

Where is the challenge?
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>>150093489
Sounds about right, armour is the new meta ever since dodge got raped with the nerf stick
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Yeah
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What happens when you equip a weapon skin with modifications included such as the HE judge when you don't own the related DLCs, do you still get marked as a cheater or did they fixed it ?
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>>150094002
If you own the skin, bad goy tag shouldn't trigger.

You only need the DLC for the gun itself. If you need it for the mods, I'm sure the skin would actually say "You need X DLC to equip this skin".
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>>150093602
Suit anarchist with dodge build are still good to be honest. Not Meta but really fun
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>>150083991
I made an Ooga Booga chains build once
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how can i make the swedish k Meta ? More accuracy or stability for this piece of junk ?
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>>150100358
>make it meta
What?

It's already fucking powerful. Don't need shit to hit damage breakpoints.
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>>150078962
>stealth exp bonus
>not meaningful
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>>150103385
>exp
>meaningful
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>>150083438
>Insprie was overpowered guys. Come on, if anything we buffed it with the 100% chance.
>Yeah we can't do anything about frenzy+anarchist sorry guys it's intended.
OYVEYSHILL
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Why are dodge build users such trash
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>>150105169
Because 90% of them are Crook shitters.
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Checkmate Gensec
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>>150013754
bumping this
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>>150105169
because "m-muh 75% of chances to be invincible while running" and such.

Also they have that nasty habits to not take any equipment for objectives such as c4 or a saw. It's always to the fat armorfags to do the dishes.
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>>150105007
Daily reminder the devs said multiple times they would "fix" frenzy whilewinking at us. Think they enjoy this glitch too much to fix it.
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>>150107480
It's not a glitch. It's just them being completely incompetent and greedy. So long as Anarchist is part of a two step program to invulnerability, dumb goys will keep buying the Sydney pack.
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>>150107939
You don't even need anarchist, it's pretty OP with armorer too.
>>
Post gunfus
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>>150107480
It is a glitch. They need to overhaul the battle damage calculation to make it reduce health damage only. Originally it was not reducing health damage properly at all which is why it got bumped to a different layer of calculations but they can't separate the health reduction calculation from the armour because they're done on the same layer.

They just changed the skill description instead of putting in effort to make it right.

They are unironically invoking the
>It's not a bug, it's a documented feature!
meme that retard devs and programmers like to spew.

This is the quality of devs we get from Starbreeze and OVK.
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>>150108778
Secondary saw
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>>150113782
>Bill Murray heister never
>Shkreli contractor never
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>tfw armor is finally the way to go on loud while dodge is pretty much reserved for stealth
>watching shitty FAK retards get blown up while I'm comfy in my dozer suit

Good riddance dodgefags nobody will miss your cancer
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>>150108778
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>>150114954
The blood splatter on that skin is so bad.
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>>150108778
>>150114954
Are these skin mods or the official ones?
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>>150115372
The shotgun is vanilla scrublet, bronco is a mod
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>>150114954
>sight on bronco

triggered/10
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>>150114954
I bet you put sights on shotguns too...
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>>150116164
>all those shitters believing that buffing the stability of their loco above 70 would make any changes

Almost as funny as those peoples modding snipers for stability.
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>>150114757
>yfw next perk deck end up being a grinder 2.0, making suit users on top of the competition again
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>>150114757
>not constantly switching between both
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Someone explain this new mod system to me? Is it 100 = 100% or does it still have hidden number bullshit
>>
Does Payday 1 still have a sizable community?
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>>150118378
http://steamcharts.com/app/24240
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>>150118296
5 new accuracy=1 old accuracy
4 new stability=1 old stability but now old 25 is the max since mods and skills dont have a maximum anymore.
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>>150118524
>Replying to kenny
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>>150118592
I don't give a fuck dude
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>>150118592
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>>150118450
So its dead...

Damn shame too because it was literal GOAT whe it had an active community
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>>150116164
haha, nah i don't but i do have the viewmodel thing at a weird fov for lols
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>>150059485
Cook Off is literally the easiest DW heist IMO

If your team isn't suit dodge retards or <Infamy 1 fuckwits, that is.
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>>150108778
>tfw I have to get a mod that replaces another gun I like just so I can have this
Mods that don't have to replace the default items fucking when
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>>150071342
>>150072335
>Game has 987655467890 DLC
> 94.12321% of game content locked behind DLC

nice fucking game design faggot swedes
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>Stealth
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fuck dumbass russian fuckers
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>>150122867

>playing a nigger
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>>150124338
Niggers are best for stealing shit I thought?
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>>150124880

Clover is too cute not to play

Best heister, best perk deck
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>>150125143
Best new heister.
Perk deck is kinda shit though. Too situational, unless you're restart-spamming scum.
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>>150125143
>Clover
>Cute
Maybe if you're attracted to the uncontrollable urge to vomit whenever you see her face.
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>>150125634

its the only perk deck that directly helps with stealth, ive had plenty of moments where I lockpicked a door open right before someone nearly detected me

All the new heisters kinda suck besides Bodhi who is hot
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hey guys, been a while since i played

whats the best masterforcer build

whats the best techforcer build

and what is the current meta build?
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>>150114757

Dodge is still decent it just doesn't give you that complete bullet immunity like it used to. There is a good balance between suit and armor now.
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>>150127094
>Dodge is still decent it's just that there's a flimsy RNG chance between whether or not that blackdozer is dealing completely unmitigated health damage to you or not.
If this wasn't from the head shills mouth I'd assume it was just bait.
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>>150118283
>Being helpful and being a fucking liability
Yea, kill yourself
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>>150128017
>ever being a liability
yikes
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>>150117310
You mean 3.0 since we already got Anarchist.
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>tfw crook shitter
>frenzy still op
>carry team on dw any heist ez

fight me faggots
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>>150127094
You sure you're not confusing dodge users with Suit Grinders?

Suit Grinder can hardly count as dodge but a lot of shitters confuse it with Dodge just because it uses a suit.
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is it just me or are the safes fucking shit?

I open up all the ones that drop for me and out of the 15 or so I've opened I've only gotten 1 purple and nothing better
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>>150135296
yes, safes are bullshit in the same way CSGO crates are bullshit

Valve just makes it more desirable
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>>150135296
Wouldn't be surprised if they tweaked the RNG when they made them "free"
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>the new sentry gun uses a P90 instead of an MP5
>will never have AP rounds in your own P90
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hey fuckers im pounding beers alone on a saturday lets play some payday 2 eh
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Is the 12g predator shotgun still shit?
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meth prostitute is alive and well
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YEAH
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>>150013754
>sokol tied with jacket

good
sokol a best
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>>150136971
>secondary Kobus 90,
>Good,

Pick ONE and only ONE
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>>150138604
no
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Would you a male sydney ?
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>>150142896
>key asset,

Yikes
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>>150138604
Shit ain't 2014-2015 anymore, it's a normal shotgun now and just like any normal shotguns, it becomes 100% meta with enforcer's skills.
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>>150142893
Kobus 90 with AP rounds.
I don't really give a shit at that point.
>>
yo H.P. go suck a fat baby's dick
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>>150135296
>>150135909
>>150135990
I haven't even gotten one since they went "free". 2-3 heists every day since the update. Not a single fucking safe.
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let's do biker heist dw
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>>150146262
Try leaving the game open for a long ass time, worked with friends of mine
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>>150135296
>not selling the safe

dude, it's like finding a free dollar on the floor
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>>150146487
What, like overnight?
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>>150146476
nah
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>>150135909
>valve just makes it more desirable

gee, if only I could open csgo crates for free
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>>150145296
yes
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>>150114757
>not running Suit Anarchist for 200 armor and FAST
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>>150150593
>running

run off a cliff nigger
>>
Why hasn't overkill implemented a way to report a cheater's Steam ID and then code some kind of ID ban list inside the game?
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>>150150664
Cry about it, shill.
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>>150151197
Not bad goys you retard,i mean reporting real cheaters
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>>150150664
because they want to allow modders to host lobbies without false positives
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>all these shitters using first aid kits and ammo
>all these nobody using sentries
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>>150152831
On what difficulty?
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>>150150664
For literally what purpose

Seriously, give me a fucking reason.
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>>150152929
Overkill.
I'd probably get kicked for bringing sentries anyway
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>>150153203
I just did a job on Overkill with Swan Song, Meshia and a sentry build. Was really fun
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Is the biker heist SMG any good?
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>>150013754
Wolf in the lead, as he should be.
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>>150159986
Same as krinkov except more AR-like
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>>150135296
>>150135990
75% chance to get a blue.
20% chance for a purple.
4% chance for a pink.
1% chance for a red.
0.01% chance for a legendary.

They're actually out of 10,001 so it's like 7500/10001, 2000/10001, 400/10001, 100/10001, 1/10001.

They're crates, they're designed to give you only shit drops forever. No need for tweaking.
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>>150138771
Capture her and take her back with you to the DeLorean.

She has a time machine that took her from Day 2 to Day 1.
Maybe it's the same one Jacket used.
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>>150159986
It's a copy of the stats of the Krinkov smg, only good thing being it's not ugly as fuck and doesn't make you feel you're carrying an abortion during the whole heist.

Developers are retarded and pussies afraid of their game being called P2W.
>>
>vehicles exist - they're not great but they exist
>no car chase level or escape

Why?
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>>150161727
>Developers are retarded and pussies afraid of their game being called P2W.
It's great how they go out of their way to nerf DLC shit the moment somebody calls it p2w OP, and make sure that all the DLC guns are shitastic out of the box.
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>>150161780
>wanting a car chase when vehicles have shitastic controls and the turning radiuses the size of Manhattan
Besides, cops don't need vehicles when they can snipe you across the map at a dice roll at any distance.
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>>150162132
Well yeah, they'd need to work on the handling. I'm just surprised they haven't tried it. It's simple:
>loot van crashes on highway
>hijack a nearby car, load bags into trunk, drive to exit within X time while avoiding roadblocks
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>>150161780
>escape
goat simulator has you escape in a car
>>
>Enemies don't have leg hitboxes

what the fuck
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>>150162629
That's not a car chase though.
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>Shitters keep asking for Overdrill,

feels like the first game all over again.
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>>150162725
>aiming for anything other than the head
>ever
>>
>>150162725
No arm hitboxes either so don't bother shooting through the open hole that Shields shoot out of.
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>>150162629
>>150162818
To be fair, it is exactly what I described in >>150162359 sans the hijacking, so I guess it counts.

Maybe we'll get a vehicle update with a proper car chase later. After swedish vacation is over.
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>>150162893
>>150162923
>sweden
>>
>Overkill 'fixed' frenzy by putting it in the skill description that it affects armor

Fuck off with this, fix your stupid fucking bug already so I can go back to using it as my primo hipster build
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>>150163516
Just do a dodge build!
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>>150163548
I guess I could dick around with fugiforcer again
>>
>>150163516
It's a documented feature!

Not a bug! ;)
>>
>Big Bank DW
>get fucked by snipers while waiting for timelock
>get surrounded by skulldozers while moving the bags
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>>150163708
I absolutely refuse to believe that they seriously think that frenzy in its current state is even remotely acceptable.

I stand by the theory that they just want more people to buy Sydney since her perk deck has synergy with frenzy and once they get enough shekels they're going to fucking dumpster it
>>
>>150151348
To retarded pubs and Overkill, they're the same.
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>>150163952
See >>150111653

They just don't want to work on it.
Just like console updates.

Also they think it's okay for some reason. They even used it on their stream for their first ever loud DW stream.

>I stand by the theory that they just want more people to buy Sydney since her perk deck has synergy with frenzy
Nah it works with everything, not just Anarchist. Anything that gives armour regen or extra armour basically meshes well with Frenzy's damage reduction.
>>
>silent assassin mod
>mfw genociding entire cities without the cops showing up
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>>150163949
>Big Bank
>skulldozers
They have some interesting spawn zones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMHaPxou3Q0
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>>150135296
>finally got a red weapon skin
>it came with a negative word
>making it 100 pesos

Fuck, well, a-at least i got enough money for more video games.
>>
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=734563713

were they really that good ?
>>
>>150165290
>Izhma with high accuracy
Disgusting.
>>
Why is stealth so fucking shit?

it seems like it would reward you with missions taking less time, but that isn't the case for a lot of heists
>>
>>150164849
>afk dozer
>can't kill it with melee
>didn't bother dominating the greys knocked around by HE rounds
>no faceplate at start of video
You sure it actually spawned there?
>>
>>150165887
DARK SOULS OF HEISTING
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>>150165887
It's shit to balance the fact you don't have to bend for every special units coming during loud sections. Also once you get good, it's not shit, just boring as fuck (apart maybe for the Diamond job and Art gallery).
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>>150166170
>walking back and forth across the map with heavy bags you can't sprint with, repeatedly
>ECMs blocking objectives because they're "too OP"
>not shit
I think the word you want is "tedious as fuck", not "boring", and that would still put it in the "shit" category.
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>>150166170
>Stealth successfully
>still have to jerkoff for 5 minutes for drills and shit
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>>150166267
>Spend 20 hours waiting for Twitch to show up because devs expect a guard to path into your face in that time to fuck up stealth

This is the reason I don't even bother doing Nightclub and Four Stores anymore when I want a comfy stelf heist.
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>>150166246
>>walking back and forth across the map with heavy bags you can't sprint with, repeatedly
download the mod that lets you change bag carry limit and weight, best choice of my life

i dont give a fuck if it's not "the way they intended" they think frenzy is okay in its current state they can get fucked
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>>150166514
>shadow raid solo for sidejobs
>open crate
>artifact
Just leave that shit there, for fuck's sake.
>>
>>150166514
If I wanted to cheat, I would've installed PP already.

Besides, installing cheaty mods has nothing to do with the fact that Starbreeze and OVK devs don't know how to balance gameplay.
>>
>>150166794
>can carry a 400 pound safe on your back no problem
>can only carry 1 20lb bag of cash
>>
>people playing on Overkill or above and not using at least the CAR-4 or AK.762
what are other good ways to immediately identify shitters to kick out before starting a heist?
>>
>>150166514
>>150166902
Doesn't matter how you slice it, it's still cheating man, if you have the gall to use it, at least have the gall to admit to it. That said, I doubt overkill cares that it's cheating since you don't get a bad goy tag.
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>>150166960
>People that get mad because you are not using CAR-4 or AK .762
>>
>Counterfeit
>cant stealth it at all

fuck this
>>
>>150167571
People here always get mad at people who are too stupid to play the game right
>>
>>150167654
As long as it hits damage breakpoints, nobody cares.

We do care if you do something retarded like using a suppressor and Silent Killer to boost your damage from 5400 to 5500 and think it matters.
>>
>>150167654
So the way to play the game right is to use CAR-4 or AK .762?
>>
>>150167609
>implying you could ever stealth counterfeit
>>
>>150168593
>implying you could ever stealth first world bank
>>
Best stealth missions? getting bored of loud gameplay and still need to grind perk decks
>>
>>150168818
We never found out the secret bullshit that was hidden around in PD1. Who knows, maybe the pacifist achievement for counterfeit was a hint at something
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>>150169805
>implying Starbreeze/OVK ever decided on what the secret would be should they ever decided to work on it
>>
>>150169749
First World Bank
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>>150045392
>>150015114
>>150164849
>4 videos out in 3 days
Just why?
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>>150166373
>Four Stores,
>implying all stealth players just don't simply ecm rush and kill the two guards, cams and twenty-four civilians in the process

If you're trying to stealth it like framing frames, you're doing it wrong.
>>
>>150171176
Sometimes I just want a professional no-hassle quickie, man.

No paying $300k for an Expert Driver, no jacking off by myself for 5-10 minutes while I wait for Twitch, no murdering 9999 civs or keeping the map on persistently alert while keep sawing the floor.
>>
>>150169749
Bomb:dockyard. Totally random patterns, interesting layout and funky croatian coding spicing things up
>>
stealth is fucking gay and I feel like it's something they shoehorned in at the last second
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>>150171969
Stealth is the main reason normies and try-hard kids play this game actually since they all want to feel special and professional by doing it this way.

Overkill shouldn't forget who is its main audience.
>>
How do I flamethrower build?
>>
>>150166960
>CAR-4/AK7.62
>Not completely outclassed in terms of the meta

kekekek
>>
>>150173603
anarchist frenzy
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>>150173741
What do I put on the flamethrower, do I stack damage?
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>>150173783
it eats ammo like hell so you'll need the ammo tree for sure, maybe enforcer - overkill ace and rock a HE judge for swapping for 75% more damage

I've got fuckall for mods and perkdecks so I haven't tried it yet but I'd imagine that's how it'd go down
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>>150172269
Heat fans?
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>>150171595
>Sometimes I just want a professional no-hassle quickie, man.

>No paying $300k for an Expert Driver, no jacking off by myself for 5-10 minutes while I wait for Twitch, no murdering 9999 civs or keeping the map on persistently alert while keep sawing the floor.

Oddly, shadow raid and murky station fit all of that criteria. no expert driver, no waiting for escape, no murdering needed. The only time waster is carrying bags - murky is better for that because nothing slows you down, unlike shadow raid's artifact.
>>
>wants to make pistol build
>is waiting for akimbo STRYKs
>all the skill synergy
>more lead output than minigun
>will never happen
I guess I'll just use Chimano Customs and pretend they're STRYKs.
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>>150174887
12 bags on SR and 16 bags on Murky Station aren't really quickies.
>>
>>150174952
I know, but they don't require spending any cash for assets, waiting for escape drivers, or killing anyone. He never said anything about carrying bags.
>>
how i sentry build
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>>150176193
Suppressed sentries with ap rounds and ammo. Get JoT aced so you can bring 2 deployables - either regular sentries or ammo bags. Run the maniac perk deck.
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>>150176193
This is my AFK build.
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mGIJKl:eGIJkl:tABCDEF:::
You've still got some points to spare.
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>>150176528
>>150176521
Thanks m8, I'm assuming you ggrab the weapons with the highest ammo pickup rate e.g. MG42 or the ones with the smallest ammo pools e.g. grenade launcher?
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>>150176727
I'm not sure about that, actually; the lowest deployment cost you can get for sentries is 48% of your current ammo, which means you can get 2 deployments per gun before you need to pick up more - but if you have a low ammo count, it might round down and only get you one deployment. I used to use a clarion and vertex with my old sentry build, but it wasn't very good.
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>>150176879
I've tried, you get two per grenade launcher
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>>150176727
If you don't want the joker cops you can always put those points into fully loaded or frenzy.
You can also skip the ICTV and use LBV+anarchist or something.
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>>150164371
Did they ever explained why they don't update the console version?
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>>150177642
SoonTM and Overkill incompetence
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>>150173603
Put everything in the ammo pool although the +1 damage boost is welcome too. also try to make a critical build if possible: powerful as fuck.
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>>150177642
The canon Almir excuse is:
>We know you guys want to see more updates. We want to give them to you. No one wins if you guys don't get any new content. We only have to lose by not giving you new content. We are currently in a loop of bug testing -> bug fixing -> bug testing until we have a solid update.
from https://www.reddit.com/r/paydaytheheist/comments/4tl7ns/today_marks_day_400_of_no_console_updatessupport/d5ipiat

From my understanding of the console patch process, devs can't release patches willy-nilly and have games shit the bed because the platform owners (M$ and Sony) make them go through testing and QA to certify said patches. This is also why incompetent devs for PC games with console ports take longer to release console ports because they fail cert.

It's not a cost-per-patch issue anymore since publishing patches has been free for years on both console platforms but the patches also just don't seem to fucking work. And either they are stuck on bug fixes for Update #50-something or they keep adding shit to the console patch with every PC patch and it's stuck in development hell.

Either way, *IF* Almir is telling the truth and not lying through his teeth, then basically M$ and Sony are rejecting their patches because they break the game or some other shit and OVK is having a hell of a time trying to debug their game well enough to pass cert. That and I think somebody in the previous thread said that Andreas or whoever is the only guy working on it so who knows when it'll come for console players, if at all.

The best part about that Reddit thread is that it came about after Starbreeze/OVK closed their offices for their two-week long vacation until end of July and Almir was just basically alone in doing emergency damage control all day.
The Reddit mod should've kept the thread stickied until OVK actually released an update instead of letting it disappear the moment Almir throws up some bullshit tl;dr.
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>>150178312
IIRC Overkill are trying to hire devs that know how to develop for the XB1 and PS4 showing that maybe that they don't know what the fuck they're doing in terms of porting
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>>150178312
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>>150178312
>>150178924
>people still defend this
It's getting sad
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>>150174690
>implying the Heat crew weren't loudfags
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>>150180786
My friend was hyped as fuck because of this
he said "you can buy it now,no more dlc,no more microshit!"
>biker dlc
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>>150181606
>Friend
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>>150181325
Heat crew would also be in the escape by the time the broncos arrived.
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>>150083991
>medieval castle treasury robbery
That would be cool
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>>150181749
>having the escape van this far away on Nightclub and Four stores, even with the expert driver asset.

Bain confirmed for being an autist who can't pick competent getaway drivers.
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>>150182783
>no more overpriced dlc

jesus
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>>150183178
shit, meant for >>150180786
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>>150180786
I have safes I cant open without buying a 2.49 drill

or is that the point, clueless, wrong idiots giving this game good reviews
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>>150178312
>If a game I really love isn't working on consoles, Id switch to other platforms and fucking play it there.
Unless the game is paying me or putting out I'm not about to make major compromises for it.
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>>150183476
Back when the devs were hyping about update 100, they said they would "free" the steam market and make you able to open the next collection skins without having to buy a drill. Only thing was all the "gaming journalists" kept yelling that there wouldn't be anymore Microtransactions in the game, so all the clueless retards believed it. Considering how it made good publicity (despite not being the truth), the devs decided to just shrug and not to try to correct those false news.
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389th for Mega kawaii mask being best mask
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>payday 3 with create a heister
>crew interracts with it like they're your own
>you can also make crew chemistry between your heister and the crew, such as making Dallas like you, Chains admiring you (in a way of omnipotence or skill), and Houston outright hating your guts
would you, /pdg/?
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>>150184148
Almir said they were "freeing up the black market". The closest he got to admitting they weren't actually removing microtransactions was just saying that all safes from this point forward will be free. If you say "free" the average consumer assumes whatever you're talking about is actually free. They knew that and were purposefully trying to mislead people.
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>>150164371
Somewhere, I think on stream I heard they're nerfing the damage reduction (but may also buff the health a bit to compensate, but only bit, and that's a big MAY)

>it works with everything
can con-fucking-firm. I have a skill guide that has this working with maniac and using shotguns only, and the only dlc it really needs is shotgun pack, and the only infamy you need is the Mastermind one.

Testing it out with different variations and such for each perk deck, I have found some surprising results. It works, maybe TOO well with Armorer. At least mine doesn't work with any health regen decks since I use berserker (i can get nearly 300% extra damage with the build when it comes to all the skills put together)

The biggest surprise is that it works like a dream with Hitman, and that it makes Crew Chief viable if you're using it to get people up and run around a lot more. It is also good with rogue, but not great.

And unsurprisingly, it does not work at all with burglar.
pic related because I'm fucking invincible.
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>>150185428
Overkill nor Almir never said "no more microtransactions"
they said "all safes will be free"
apparently that translates "everything is free"
pic is so related it hurts
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>>150183476
>safes before update 100 must still be opened with a drill

if you bought this safe from the market or have this safe from before u100 you have to open it with a drill, not complicated to understand
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What is the best heist to farm Courier Mod Packages?
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>>150176727
nigga, just use the ak with 80 damage, the mag that makes you have 60 bullets and the skill that adds 15 bullets, the moment you put a sentry you only loose 48% of the remaining 15 bullets
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>>150185219
No. How about them heists instead?
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>>150186561
jew store or four stores
four stores is faster but overkill only, and i think it's a net loss for you since you run in, ECM an atm, grab the cash, then run around for packages - not a whole lot of cash

jew store is slower (have to move bags) but can be done easily on DW and it pays for itself
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>>150185219
i couldn't give less of a shit
all i want is dallas for playing and clover for porn
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>>150185219
>payday 3
>ever happening
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>>150187062
It has a higher chance than Walking Dead right now.
Speaking of, when did we ever get any new news for that?
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>>150187818
Just play Survival Instinct. It'll be around the same quality of whatever deformed turd Overkill pushes out.
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NOW PUT YOUR CUFFS ON BITCH
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>>150186561
>>150186702
>four stores is faster
What the fuck are you smoking?

Normal Jew Stores.

Go in.
Get 3 bags.
Get out.
30 seconds of heisting, finish in one unupgraded ECM.

Difficulty doesn't matter, just spam the fuck out of Jew Store.
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>>150191714
And where exactly are you picking up the courier packages in there you spastic kioskmongol
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Would you dare /pdg/ ?
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>>150186561
4 Stores Overkill
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>>150191846
>Doing anything that would result in Overkill getting money
Never again.
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>>150189654
>DUCK AND COVER, CAMPERS
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>>150040202
>>150054515
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- In The Head! (any_50_headshot_kills)
- Mellon (voff_4)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>150194370
>mellon again

Could this side job just fuck off for once ?
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>>150194370
why do you even do this

does it bring some scrap of meaning to your shallow life

do you even enjoy this
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>>150194370
>Mellon AGAIN
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>>150194816
Just filter it.
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>>150194593
>>150195781
>Complaining at something as easy as Mellon
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>>150191714
>farm Courier Mod Packages?

Learn to read.
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>>150194816
>actually addressing sidejobs Bot. you know. a bot

jesus.
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>>150194816
>tfw not sure if it's a dev or a fan shilling this shit or someone doing it purely ironically
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>playing anything but clover

What are you gay?
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>>150199145
no way
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I'm fucking tired of using the same mods. What DLC do I have to fucking buy to get nice, cool, operator looking shit. I was thinking Gage courier and shotgun packs. What should I get? Also Best dlc to buy like a good goy?
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>>150200771
DLC unlocker
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>>150200771
all you need is judge and reinfeld those guns make me rock hard
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>>150200771
mod courirer and car/ak pack for full operator autism, but not worth buying the car/ak pack
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>>150200912
Judge is fun but I want to push it to it's limmits with the ammo type stuff. Reinfeld is my main shottie. And according to what this guy says >>150200996 I should prolly get courier and shotgun packs
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>>150199145
Dragan a best
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>>150200771
This, >>150200876

But if you honestly wanna be a good goy, pick up some DLCs during a sale.
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>>150201969
Fuck off shill.
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>>150200771
Don't forget the Butcher AK/Car dlc for more tacticool weapon mods for your murican AR-15 and the Slav AK.

Also Gage weapon pack 01 for the grip mods that are still meta
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>Solo Shadow Raid
>Getting all the loot for achievement
>Threw some bags next to the van while looting the compound
>Clean house
>Brought a bag from the sewer and threw it in
>That's the mission quota amount
>Be an idiot and think "Might as well get this bag here and throw it in too!"
>Trigger escape
>I'm escape
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>>150162826
>asking
I don't get this. Just join any FWB on Death Wish and 9 outa 10 times they're doing overdrill.
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>>150207312
Death wish is hard shut up your gay
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>>150207615
t.dodge user
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>>150093489
Which reload super fast skill is that? Aggressive Reload doesn't work with LMGs [s]as written[/s].
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>>150209326
Bloodthirst is your friend anon, smack a cop get absurd reload for everything
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>>150198953
You can't bot on 4chan you retarded nigger fuck.
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>>150210659
Maybe if you're retarded like you
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>>150210803
Fuck off shill.
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>>150210995
Fuck off shill
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>>150200771
Commando 553 is in Armored Transport, good for dodge builds, high concealment. Destroys shit with low blow. Combine it with Baby Deagle with Spike Kit on, looks special agent AF.
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Fuck off shills
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>>150210384
Aha, haven't explored that tree much. Thanks.
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>>150207312
They want to be carried by masculine XXV-100 players. Only thing is those players don't want to be bothered by shitters so the results end up in a kick or the shitters quitting while whining.
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What's up with the desync lately? I don't see the guards and civvies as the host does. Everybody is pick locking from miles away. Getting spotted while nowhere in the line of sight.
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>>150213403
>host internet
>your internet
>international lobby
Pick one
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best builds? shotguns seem to be garbage now and fully loaded has nothing good before you reach it

so I went for the old masterforcer with inspire and pistols skills, what is pdg using today?
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>>150214262
Kill yourself
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>>150213902
It's fucking unplayable. We can't coordinate. Host's and my nets are okay (i.e. <10ms).
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>>149984969
???
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>>150214262
No skills, Burglar deck, akimbo judge with judge secondary, judge melee, and throwing judges.
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>>150214359
Weird i haven't had any noticeable desync except for one time i was playing with russians
t. South America
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>>150214262
>muscle perk deck
>all enforcer shotgun skills aced
>the giant armor skill
>any primary shotgun
>HE judge
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>>150214262
>shotguns seem to be garbage now
HAH

HAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

no.
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man this game is way more boring than I remembered
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>>150216778
Playing it with friends or communicative can make things a lot more interesting though.

If not, you can always grief your crew and ruin jobs for fun
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>>150214262
>shotguns seem to be garbage now
Anarchist deck + the skill that gives you armor back on headshots + iron man basic + enforcer shotgun tree

Wear a two-piece suit. Enjoy your 200 armor, sanic speed, and getting 1/8 of your armor back on a headshot - which come like rain because shotgun.
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>>150219282
You can still get sanic speed with the ironman armor
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do people play first world bank only to do overdrill because some jackass joined my game and i told his ass we aren't doing overdrill because i dont want to wait for a 30 minute drill and this fucker says theres no point in doing it if youre not doing overdrill motherfucker i did it once thats enough
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>>150219735
Not as fast as without, though. ICTV is good for DW, but for OVK or below I rock the suit and give Doomguy a run for his money.
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>>150214262
You are crazy.

OVK buffed shotgun damage across the board and then made 000 Buckshot be an objective upgrade to 00 Buckshot with no ammo penalties minus one or two technicalities.

The only reason you'd be having problems with shotguns right now is if you're ADS'ing a non-HE shotgun for some unknown reason and getting mad you can't hit more than one cop at a time.
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>>150219282
Is it just me, or does Bullseye aced give 25% armor back, instead of flat 25 armor? It seems to give way too much armor for me, like a quarter of the armor bar, while you're having 200 armor on Anarchist...
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>>150219864
Maybe it's just your region of the world.

I queue FWB DWs in burgertown all the time and barely anybody asks for or does OVERDRILL.

>>150220371
Doesn't Anarchist cancel out ANY armour regen buff? The 25% regen is probably just you noticing the Anarchist armour-regen-on-damage perk.
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>>150220371
well you also regen armor with anarchist too

whenever you damage something and periodically on its own
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>>150219864
>do people play first world bank only to do overdrill

only in the first game. guy you had here was just an idiot
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Election day > Big Oil > Framing Frames > shit > Biker heist

Prove me wrong, Vladfags
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>Call myself a colombian shitter
>get banned from the group chat

Y'all soft cunts.
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>>150222301
biker heist is just retarded because the heist will go smoothly until the end when some jackass steers their bike right into everyone and causes a pile up then suddenly every cop in the world spawns right there and you all die
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>>150223435
PD2 group always bans
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>>150222301
Biker Heist isn't that bad.

Don't know if it's worth $7.99 but it's a decent enough heist.

Day 1 just shoves the turret in your face so you have to deal with it before trying to rush objectives, My only complaint is the ridiculous sniper spawn spam, and the fact that OVK still didn't fix the Day 1 loot bags not counting for money or exp.

Day 2 even feels like a real train robbery if you slog through the cops with all the weapons bags. Could use some work with Cloaker + ladder interaction though.
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>>150220775
>Doesn't Anarchist cancel out ANY armour regen buff?
I think it cancels out third-party ones, but not ones that you do to yourself. So something like Crew Chief wouldn't affect you, but Bullseye would.
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got 4th biker safe
sell or open
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>>150227728
gift to me
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amr dmr is so bad I will never use this weapon again
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thoughts on the LMG?
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>>150230467
Unnecessary and unwieldy.
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cooked 7 bags of meth on rats then disconnected from host on next day. never playing this shit heist again
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>>150114757
>mfw everything is viable as long as you have anarchist and frenzy
you don't even need dodge on suits anymore
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>>150230467
OP
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>>150230924
>unwieldy
xplain
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>We'll never have another 3 day heist or a heist over 3 days because Overkill is too incompetent to fix their netcode and too lazy to work that hard on something without getting paid ahead of time.
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>>150230924
Its actually bretty good
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>>150232034
Why do they have a full week on the loading screen anyway
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The one really fucking annoying thing about using ex pres is when I have shit load of backup health stored and I want to expose myself to enemy fire so my armor breaks but instead I take too much damage and die instead of getting all my health back
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>>150234821
Because Knock Knox is happening.
Note: not actually happening.
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>>150225692
>that sweet fx
mah nigga
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whats best heist to do megalo-mania
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>there will never be quality belgian boatgun
>there will never be underbarrel launcher mods that override the secondary weapon
Why breath?
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>>150238048
Anything with a freakin turret in it. Also dozers help a lot to farm maniac points.
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>>150194370
>>150194593
>>150194816
>>150195781
Hello heisters! New side jobsa re out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Nothing Out Of The Ordinary (slakt_2)
- Sniperino (any_25_sniper_kills)

This week's new Weekly Side Job is:
- Big Deal (big_deal)
Complete it for your chance at an Infamous quality The Grin mask!

And this month's new Monthly Side Job is:
- Kiss The Chef (voff_5)
Complete it for your chance at your very own free Stat Boost or Team Boost mod for your weapon!

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>150239957
>jobsa re out

ITS NOT A BOT, HE BROKE THE MASQUERADE
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>>150240348
why would you presume the now exposed job bot is a he

that's sexist
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>>150230467
They're bad. Just so bad and their stats look all the same.
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I'm not really sure if Lab Rats DW is really hard or is it hard for me when I have to go across the whole map to save one retard then go across the room again to save another. I barely have time to shoot the cops.
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>>150230467
Not bad, especially when combined with Body Expertise Ace and Surefire Ace and when the user can actually aim them.
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>>150230467
>crouch
>press 4
>aim for head
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>>150243551
>when the user can actually aim them
so only using bipods?
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>>150243319
It's the worst heist but nobody absolutely know how to play it or not act like retards so it's almost hard to blame the developers on this one.
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>>150244137
Pretty much, yeah.
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>>149990751
>wolf would probably kill you himself
>kawaii heister would be too busy shopping for cute dresses and dragon dildos to protect you
>dragan's already in the process of making a delicious well balanced meal to keep you strong while he watches over you
>ron perlman still doesn't understand where he is or why he needs to wear a mask
>the elephant would sell you out in an instant to further his political agenda
>swan song chains protects you for a few seconds before going down and getting taken into police custody
>almir sells your soul to the devil for more DLC
>gage would make a quick buck selling some crook weapons to come and kill you
>jacket couldn't even protect his girlfriend, even if he puts his dick in you he can't protect you
this can only mean one thing
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>hosting hoxtolicious birthday bonanza
>on day 2
>15 minutes in
>game crashes
>mfw
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how 2 b tf2 engineer?
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>>150198953

>>150239957
>>150240348


eat shit
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>>150249975
join a speedrunning highlander team and tell them you want to be engi
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Walk in closet is +35%/135% of normal pickup, and fully loaded aced is +75%/175% of normal pickup?

Am I retarded or is this correct?
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>>150249975
Assuming you want to cosplay as the Engineer...
Shotgun, Pistol, Suit, Sentries, Gambler.
Almost all sentry skills, Eco Sentry Ace, Tower Defense Ace, Sentry Targeting Package Ace might be overkill, but Third Law Ace, Engineering Ace, and the aformentioned skills Basic are mandatory.
Equilibrium Basic is great for having pistols.
Shotgun Impact Ace and Overkill Basic are required for shotgun builds, choose whatever you want for filler.
Scavenger Ace is nice, Fully Loaded Ace might be overkill.
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Should I bother coming back?
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>180 damage without shotgun skills

How come the skin unlockerfags went silent about it ?
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>>150251994
If you used to like grinder or doge, not really. If not, you should enjoy the new content
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>>150252786
>grinder and dodge were my mains before
>come back to see both still good as fuck
when will you shitters learn?
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So I'm sitting on 10k perk points after doing the monthly for Cook-Off. Which of the following decks should I work on? Muscle, Armorer, Hitman, Infiltrator, Grinder, Yakuza, or Ex-President?
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>>150253279
If you're an armorfag, Infiltrator is a weird but effective and almost meta mix between armorer and muscle. Really advice you to go for it.

If not, jump on grinder and don't look back.
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>>150250508
You're correct.
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>>150251994
No.
>>150252585
Probably because the skin unlockerfags aren't stupid enough to use a shotgun without shotgun skills.
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>>150253887
>implying that not having to invest in the shotgun impact skill doesn't offer new build opportunities for shotgun users
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>>150253279
New huh?
Muscle is the most versatile and doesn't require skills for full use.
Crook is powerful but boring.
Gambler is nice support.
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>>150254229
I've actually been playing off and on since release, but came back from a long sabbatical. Aside from the ones I mentioned in that post, I've got the deck maxed or don't have access to it (sociopath and biker).
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>The Diamond
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>>150255187
I wonder if sentry accuracy counts for your accuracy.
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>>150255503
it does,before i did some hotline miami and the sentrys were shooting the walls at the end of the second day(couldnt hit guys on roof) and i got like 15% accurary
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>>150255187
>Only 221
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>finally get the diamond on DW, fucking 30 second panel timer
>on my way out, say fuck it and ecm rush out
>a few steps away from the car and I get instantly downed

rage is not strong enough of a term
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>>150256902
>DW Car shop
>everything goes swimmingly, get up to the escape with no alarms
>say fuck it and ecm rush the keys, get in cars and drive
>someone gets turned around because >payday driving
>we all get to the escape with a few seconds left
>everyone stands in the escape
>time ticks down
>heist failed

Still don't know what happened there.
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>>150257418
>not soloing car shop
You deserve it
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>>150257621
but if you solo car shop you get less money
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Why does the RPK not get the standard IZHMASH wooden sniper stock?
Or, even, any of the standard IZHMASH grips?
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>>150257418
Were you host?

Did you all just stand around or did you move around a bit inside the escape so that the game might've had a chance to notice that you're all in the escape?
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What damage point should I aim for for deathwish? I know the damage breakpoint sheet, but where should I be looking at in terms of what breakpoint to hit?
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>>150214262
>Shotguns
>Garbage

How is killing cops with 1 headshot with an M1014 with Overkill + Zerker + Frenzy garbage? Especially since you'll get a surplus of 2-3 ammo each kill.
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>>150230467
MG42 + Silencer skills + Berserker + Frenzy is amazing since you hit 2HS kills for tans and elites whilst getting back 6-21 ammo per ammo box. Plus you'll have 68 accuracy which is enough to shoot down snipers and ~80 with the hitfire accuracy skill.
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>>150259654
What weapon are you using?
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>>150259654
The thing that makes a weapon usable is the combination of them hitting a breakpoint to reduce the # of bullets per kill, and you getting enough ammo sustain via how much ammo you get per pickup per kill. Even if you can't get 1:1, you can supplement it with the secondary weapon or a melee or reusable throwable if the situation allows you to do so.

So the answer is dependent on how you plan on playing, and what weapon you're building.
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>>150261724
>>150260858
Let's say commando or clarion, or car/ak
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>>150262468
Imo 45.4 since you can combine it with zerkerfrenzy to hit 90.8 to 2 headshot kill tans
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>>150262682
you'll only have that much boost from berserker if you are bleeding out or in swan song
for the most part you'll have 40% boost at max health and 74% or 80% when you're revived
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HEY YOU GET ON YOUR YEAH
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>>150259165
Too hard for the devs to code it.
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>>150259165
Just cry on the steam forums and maybe they will listen to you.
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>tfw bonnie will never act motherly toward you during heists
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DON'T ANSWER BACK YOU TWAT
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Would you a goonmod mutators ?
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If "The Kawaii Character Pack" actually happened? What weapons and perk deck would it include?
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>>150260260
>MG42
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Hello neighbor.
Kit the fuck up before I get the suit back on,
Or nobody will find your corpse.
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>>150276672
A real drill melee.
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>>150276286
>try to side-strafe a Shielded Cloaker
>WOLOLOLOLOL
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Hello Heisters!
We've cooked up an extra special surprise for you, just to sweeten the deal with the upcoming safe house customization.

New enemy type is out!

K9 units!
-K9 units come in trios, 1 trainer and two dogs
-The trainer will hide, while the extra fast k9's have multipurpose spawns depending on how you are playing.
-If you have a lot of hostages, the k9's will hide near them and ambush you like cloakers, pinning you down and biting you.
-if you have a lot of turrets or traps, the dogs will find them and bark, making enemies take alternate routes or spawn many more other special units to break through your defenses.
-k9's also prioritize fetching things, like stealing your bags and bringing them to areas you can't reach, or even returning your grenades to you!
-all k9 units can instantly down you like a cloaker
-all k9's can yank the weapon out of your hands and force you to retrieve it (unless they reach a zone you can't traverse! Good luck if that happens with both your weapons!)
-all k9's can "fetch" ammo pickups, making them vanish
-due to their intense training, doge units cannot be held hostage or converted
-all trainer units can respawn the k9's instantly
-k9's have quintuple spawn rates and health on death wish, and are invulnerable to headshots
-added dog whistle melee weapon, 1 damage, 1k knockdown, charged attack lets out a whistle noise and does nothing else
-added Hello Doge SMG, 100 round max ammo, 20 damage, 30 accuracy, 10 stability, 20 damage, 1 exclusive mod (barrel extension, -20 concealment, +1 damage, -9 stability, threat +2
-Keep those helmets flying!
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>>150279340
>K9 units
We already have Cloakers.
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>tfw you Will never do anything Lewd with sydney
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>>150279340
i dont wanna shoot any doggos.
i like cats better but still i would feel bad
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>>150279340
Keep those doggers dying!
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Where has the Breaker been all my life?
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>>150281312
After playing Hotline Miami and Stalker I don't feel bad about killing dog enemies in video games anymore.
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>>150279340
That doge part would most likely be to happen since the devs are all memefags, especially that neckbeard of almir
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>>150282908
They love memes but won't put in the effort.
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>>150277990
>let's break bad
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YEAH
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>>150286886
geh weg
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>there are people in this thread who considered the skulldozer to be a big threat back in 2014
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>>150289008
skull dozer was accwptable
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>>150289008
Skulldozer has never been a threat. It's not even in the top 5.
Dirty Harry>Blackdozer>Carl on Duty>Niggas With Attitude>HRT
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>>150289438
>bronco cops being more dangerous than BBC dozers,

With the dirty harrys, they still have an "okay" rate of fire so you still have a chance at close ranges, Skulldozers just don't give a fuck, pull down your pants and makes you cry in less of a second
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>>150290381
Dirty Harry can stick his six shooter between his buttcheeks and hit you for max damage from 10 miles away. Dozers are typically blind past a certain range and less effective too. Honestly I should've put Carl's ahead of BLACKED dozers.
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>>150289438
>>150290381
didn't they nerf black dozers tho

also I would think that those fuckin black fbi agents are way more lethal, considering their retarded rate of fire on top of that insane damage
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>>150292083
Those are reskins of HRTs. Also no idea if they nerfed dozers they typically melt too fast for me to notice.
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>>150292223
They were "nerfed" in the sense that they no longer did full damage at 100m out or whatever.
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>tfw only have one crew i play with
>tfw not leader
>tfw leader is best friend
>tfw leader is also huge, self important prick who thinks he's hot shit for bringing dodge and inspire
>thinks he's hot shit for racking up 200~ kill counts on babby overkill difficulty
>hates DW because he knows he's shit at it

How do I get it through this fuck's head that he'd be okay at DW if he'd stop picking ancient builds and running around playing CoD anytime we have to hunker down?
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>>150292778
Cut the dead weight.
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>>150294071
>tfw not leader
>tfw leader is best friend

how do you cut the dead weight if the dead weight is your boat
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>>150292778
Unfriend him.
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>>150294875
He's a cool guy outside of PD though, and I've known the dude for 4 years
Not to mention you don't just unfriend someone you know in meatspace
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>>150294942
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>>150292778
Try reverse psychology.
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Does anyone even still play this? I wanna do the new heists in DW
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>>150295843
>anime
No
>>>/trash/
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>>150292778
Pick the unfriend and look for friendlier peoples through pubs. Should be simple.
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JUST
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>>150295843
Can't play until the end of the week but i'll still send an invite.
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>Need a weapon mod from the AK/CAR Mod Pack for my Izhma
>You can't get mods from that pack via side jobs
Swedes pls.
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anyone wanna cook some meth? need the 25 bags thing and its boring to solo it
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>>150302271
The butcher achievements are piss easy with a crew or even with coordinated pubbies. Shit, even half of them are easily soloable.
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readd me my steam is being retarded
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>>150302979
They're not achievement mods, I think. They're random drops. You just can't get them from side jobs.
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Stay down, we want to hurt no one. We're here for the Starbreeze's money, not your money. Your steam wallet is insured by the Valve society, you're not gonna lose a dime. Think of the peoples in your friend list, don't risk your account, don't try to be an hero. Right now, i want you to go on the floor and put your accounts offline.
>>
Hoxhud
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>>150303595
>>150303595
>Need a weapon mod from the AK/CAR Mod Pack for my Izhma,
>They're not achievement mods, I think. They're random drops.

If it's the paid dlc you're talking about, everything is achievement related and not random drops.

If that's the free butcher mods from spring break last year, it's all random drops and side jobs.
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>>150304301
Never gets old
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>steamcommuntiy is down
>cant see my achievements
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Since Frenzy and Anarchist are the way they are now, should I go for the dw mask before the next update??
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>>150304372
. . . well fuck. Guess it's time to farm that shit.
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NGBTO be praised.
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>>150306269
So many cheaters recently. Without NGBTO I would have left long ago.
>>
come on you wankers get that fucking power back on
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Looking to come back to play PD2, how's the meta now? Last time i played CAR4 and masterfug/fugiforcer were kings.

Also last DLC i bought was gage historical pack or some shit, any good dlcs released after that?
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>>150310405
For the weapons, meta has been raped and mind-break at the same time, the results being in the AR and SMG being more powerful but also with a shit accuracy (you'll really need all the weapon mods and skills to save the ones with a fat ammo pool). Shotguns are the winners as long as you pick the skills. Snipers are fine although this general is divided between using the ammo pool boost or accuracy boost. LMG are a lot more viable thanks of the buffed ammo pick up and the bipods (still very situational though). Pistols are okay too although the nerf of RoF is really rough on some occasions.

For the dlc, just buy/unlock the bbq one and the sokol character pack, the others are not as meta or the free vanilla content just do as good.
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>>150305082
>should I go for the dw mask before the next update??

Fucking absolutely. Last thing you want in this game is to get another new heist to complete in every difficulty possible.
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Devs improving the control of the bikes fucking when ? This is just awful
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>Decide to watch Drive for the first time since I heard that Jacket was based off the main character of it.
>Enjoying the movie when suddenly Ron fuckin Perlman shows up
>And later gets killed by not-Jacket.

I'm not sure how to feel about this but I feel that I want to be mad at Overkill. Why is the crew full of people Jacket should probably be murdering.
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>>150311916
>Jacket,
>Sokol and Jimmy because of their russian origins,
>Rust with the HM biker helmet,

Tightestcrewever.jpg
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>>150312881
>Put them on Boiling Point or a Vlad job.
I feel like the Houston v Hoxton rivalry is going to get overshadowed hard when Jacket finally fucking murders someone.
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>>150295158
>Still no good overrides_mod about The Son

shieet
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>>150311916
Jacket isn't canon

Why do you even care about the "lore"? Oyveykill certainly doesn't.
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>>150313621
Jimmy is supposed to be Russian? I thought he was a fookin' prawn
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Thoughts on Bodhi? I think hes really cute
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>>150314890
I thought he was british and then someone said he was African.
>>150316168
His voice annoys me.
>>
>managed to beat every single heist solo on overkill

I thought this game was suppose to be hard
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>>150316168
His voice is a bit too chill and cool but i guess all gang need their "duuude" member.
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>>150318291

now do it on deathwish mr. proman
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>>150163516

I haven't played in awhile, but when did they make frenzy work with armor? It use to be only health damage.
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>>150316168
Point Break was an objectively bad movie and the characterle epic no homo dudebro,
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How do I disable the grinding penalty for maps?
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>>150318291
>overkill
>hard
???
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>open workshop,
>still no good wooden skin for the M308

Shit workshop, shit skin designers.
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>>150320338
just play other maps for an hour or so. You won't need to use blt mods or any other shit like that.
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>>150320338
>grinding
Literal scum.
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>>150323692
>muh xp,
>muh infamous levels and meta builds,
>muh rare masks,

can't blame him to be honest
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Anyone wanna do the 25 meth bags cook off monthly? /id/akillerbee/
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618th for the silencer skills on the snipers that are fucking love.
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>the last five cut achievements had the word "flat" in their source files,

What did the devs mean by this ?
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>Difficulty update coming soon,

So Hype ?
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>deathwish hoxout
>3 dodge guys and me with ICTV yakuza berserker
>they constantly go down but help eachother up
>im just running around sonic speed killing everything with KSP
>dont even come close to losing half my armor

Are pubs uninformed that dodge is dead now or?
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>>150329303
Kinda hype, assuming the new Deathwish won't be just more bronco cops.
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>>150033219
looks like birth of sky
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>>150330893
Git gud Solar
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>>150330893
Bronco shields
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>>150329303
They better not just increase spawn rate and health.
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>>150332138
I'm okay with this. Better than just a raw stat tweak.
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>>150316751
He's South African
>>
Sci-fi Payday when?
>>
Does shockproof basic still make you pretty much immune to tasers because it keeps calculating the 30% chance every half a second he spends tasing you?
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>>150329303
>only 4.99
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>>150308365
>carry heist
>host kicks everyone at the end
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>>150338167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jvoSnVLo9A
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>>150320684
>BASED on a true story
>guy robs a bank to pay for his trans-girl's operation
>has a landwhale wife and three rugrats at home
>the rest ofbrooklyn roots for him

http://nypost.com/2014/08/03/the-man-who-inspired-dog-day-afternoon/
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>>150339451
Sometimes you just don't want to.
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>>150338167

>everyone but me goes down at the start of the wave
>can easily reach them but pretend like im being "blocked off" by a bunch of shields and a taser
>effortlessly mow down the whole wave and dominate a bunch of HRU's
>everyone gets traded back immediately when the wave ends
>they magnetize themselves to me for the rest of the heist like lost kittens
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>>150302271
>You can't get mods from that pack via side jobs
You sure? I thought there wasn't a mod you couldn't get from a side job.
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>>150312881
>>150314890
>>150316751
South African.

Sharlton Copley is South African and the character is South African.

Just like District 9.
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>>150318291
>I thought this game was suppose to be hard
No, it's overkill.

>>150329303
>going to have to grind out another difficulty mask
God no why
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>>150340243
>“I grabbed ahold of Bobby Westenberg and I wanted to f--k him, ’cause he used to dress up as a girl,” Wojtowicz says in the film.
>“He goes . . . ‘I don’t want you f--king me.’ I said, ‘I’m giving you $50,000, and you’re gonna tell me I’m not getting a f--k out of it?’ ... So then I f--ked him.”
I can't help but read it in Hoxton's voice.
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>>150338167
>>150341640
Alternatively.
>carry team
>host kicks everyone except you

>host proceeds to pick a stealth only heist for the next round.
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Ok I've come to the conclusion that is absolutely impossible to do Lab Rats DW with pubs.
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>>150345090
Sometimes what I'll do is hide in the camping spot by the tray under the Cs and then just hostage people out while never doing objectives myself.
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>>150345090
no I already did it you're just bad
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>join Meltdown DW pub
>get crowbars, get all loot from crates
>find vault
>no one will jam the vents
>tell them twice to use the crowbars
>infamy 2 host replies with "money first or I kick you"

is it so hard to get a non-shitter crew
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>>150347015
>get all loot
>refuse to jam the vents
I don't get it. Why wouldn't you just do it if you had all 8 pieces bagged already?
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>>150347318
That's like refusing the thermal paste on Big Bank.
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>>150348283
>Big Bank
>>
>playing hotline miami
>cooking
>literally standing in front of hcl waiting to put it in
>retarded teammate puts it in for me the second it flashes up
>call him out for his stupidity; now we both have incomplete sets
>host kicks me
I think I'll host my own lobbies from now on
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>>150348842
How about you host your own blog somewhere else too.
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>>150348283
Did you mean Shadow Raid?
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>>150348842
>call him out for his stupidity; now we both have incomplete sets
Autism
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with the dlc unlocker can i make it so only certain dlcs are unlocked? or does buying the dlc later unlabel me as a cheater if i use that dlc?

i want to be a good goy for my overkill masters but they are so mean with their dlc :'(
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>>150350706
You're only labeled a cheater for the current session. If you disable bad goy unlocker, you will no longer be branded a cheater, assuming you do not have any unowned dlc items in your inventory.
>>
reminder to put your dodgefags on a leash or they will run off thinking they're invincible until they are downed 80m from everyone else
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>>150350706
Bad goy tag only shows up when you equip an item with DLC parts you don't own or you buy a DLC heist you don't have the DLC for.

It's not permanent. Goes away the moment you leave the lobby and comes back when you do it again in another lobby.
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>>150351951
thanks for the info i thought i had to disable the mod then restart the game every time
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>Doing big bank without a saw
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>>150336217
in my experience, yes
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>>150329548
>ICTV
?
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>>150348476
>>150349056
I don't what I mean anymore. It's all the same shit anyway.

They are both fun heists either/or though
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>>150349051
>implying you can't empathize
>>
>>150353823
Ironman armor
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>>150354352
I'm not a retard that joins pub lobbies so no I can't empathize.
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>>150354472
>ICTV = Ironman
?
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>>150354624
Play on, player. San Francisco heist when?
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>>150354659
>Improved Combined Tactical Vest
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>>150353149
>Doing Transport jobs without shaped charges and saw

Somewhere in this world, there must be hundreds of pubs playing those jobs, taking 20 minutes minutes trying to drill and lockpick the trucks and this is just sad as fuck.
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>>150355802
>Framing frame day 1 without a saw
IT TAKES SO FUCKING LONG
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>>150355802
>>150356065
>first time hoxton breakout
>cant saw any of these doors
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>>150356307
You never saw it coming.
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>>150356910
lel xDDDD
i saw what you did there
>>
>>150356065
At least there aren't any power boxes to reset. Count your blessings.
>>
How big is ECM wub wub range and does it need line of sight?
>>
anyone want to do the biker heist achievements

eye for an eye
full throttle
let the man work
>>
>>150178312

I still play the console version since a friend of mine doesn't have a good PC, its pretty shitty especially after playing the PC one so much.

I really hope they update it SOME fucking day.
>>
New crossover when ?
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>>150358536
>Implying Overwatch would lower itself to having a crossover with this trash game.
It's one of the hottest games on the market right now, they have no reason to acknowledge any other game exists.
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>>150357649
I'm down.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/TurmoilTom/
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Has anyone sent a prank call yet for the contest
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>>150359215
>Doing Overkills work for them while they're on vacation.
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>people still get hit in the crane on big bank
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>>150359605
>one small voice line that could possibly be featured in a new heist or something
>work

Whatever you say, man
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>>150359215
>be sawbitch with a shotgun,
>mfw my crew couldn't give less of a fuck to the snipers and force me to go to the crane alone,

Yeah, my favorite part in the big bank trailer was also when one of the heisters was forced to throw molotovs at the snipers to not fucking die.
>>
/pdg/ I'm looking for a fun build to run. Something with SMG's possibly. Dodge builds are fun but I feel like I don't want to put a DW lobby through that bullshit.
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>>150361439
LMG tank + sentries
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>>150360680
They're outsourcing the work they would've had Simon do to the community so they don't have to pay him. And getting "featured" in Payday 2 sure as hell isn't a reward.
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>play slaughterhouse
>briefing
Bain: "Aww yeah."
>read
"Au yeah."
Most cringy shit in game I swear.
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>>150361613
Are you fucking retarded? Or just autistic?
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>>150361613
>They're outsourcing the work they would've had Simon do to the community so they don't have to pay him.

dude what
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>>150355802
Transports are fun though. Even without C4 and saw, they still only take less than 10 minutes from start to end. Most of the time.

I usually just join a loud DW, and just shoot cops until they tell me to leave. No lockpicking, no sawing, no C4'ing, only shooting and hostaging.

The ones I enjoy are the ones that actually go over 20-30 minutes while I just park my ass somewhere and keep shooting. Everybody's in custody, I'm the only one left, host keeps yelling at me "ESCAPE OR KICK" and I just don't give a shit.
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>>150358772
>they have no reason to acknowledge any other game exists.
I love this post.

It implies SC2, HotS, Hearthstone, Diablo 3, and WoW don't count/don't exist which is great since Blizzard keeps trying to ebin maymay Overwatch players into trying out the other games but nobody gives a shit.
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They're here.
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>>150361439
Well, you can still run ICTV with a tanky perk deck and still have plenty of points left over.

I'd suggest dual SMGs with that run and gun skill, on top of Body Expertise. No need for aim, just pure spray.
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>>150363892
>run
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>>150364049
stop that

you're giving me semantic satiation
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>>150319690
>>150320343
>>150343285
alrighty then

finished up soloing every dw heist with my frenzy build

where's my prize
>>
>bring a dodge suit and ECMs to a hold out heist
>people either tell me to change or kick me
why is this still allowed
>>
>>150364930
>not hosting your own games
why are you complaining
>>
>>150365197
betamaxes too lazy to host their own lobbies love to whine when they get kicked for their special snowflake builds.
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Can Redditors not be tremendous fags?
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>>150365661
>Can fags not be tremendous fags
anon
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Did they ever make Dragon's Breath worth it or is HE still the way to go
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>>150367430
I don't understand the fetish with HE rounds.
They can't headshot, or at least, can't headshot very well. Is it the utility?
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>>150368469
Go play some DW games with HE Judge and come back
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>>150368469
Stop using them on the Street Sweeper.
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>>150368469
It's for countering Shields/Dozers and Snipers if you really want to. Personally I don't see the point in bringing HE over a real grenade launcher since they have bigger blast radius, higher damage, and are more sustainable.
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Ohh shit
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>>150369034
HE Judge does all of that and better.

>grenade launchers
>sustainable
That's like saying Fully Loaded Ace grenades pay for themselves as long as you throw them into mobs of 50 cops only. HE Judge is pretty ridiculous because of its high damage and high ammo pickup. You could be running around with Overkill Basic and solo killing mooks on DW and still have leftover ammo boxes.
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>>150369563
>HE Judge does all of that and better.
Look if you want to feel special for not using the "easy pick" guns go ahead but you can stop pretending they're better.
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>>150369687
I don't get it.

Do you actually think the HE Judge isn't an easy mode gun?
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>>150277881
>The Buzzsaw 42 is based on the MG 42 (Maschinengewehr 42, or "machinegun 42"), widely known for its extreme rate of fire, reliability and service in the Second World War by the Wehrmacht, the Schutzstaffel's Waffen SS armed forces and other Nazi paramilitary groups.
>The "buzzsaw" in "Buzzsaw 42" came from one of the MG 42's real-world nicknames: the "Hitler's buzzsaw".

Calling an MG-42 an MG3 is retarded, stop being retarded
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Is Akimbo SMGs with Crook/Dodge still viable, or should I just go all in for the ICTV/Frenzy/Anarchist meme?
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>>150371963
Frenzy is for doing lazy cheevos with pubs, akimbo smgs are for fun
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>>150369687
you do realize the HE judge is one of the most over powered weapons in the game, right?
>>
>>150371963
Use dodge in overkill, dont hurt you fucking team by being useless in death wish.
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>>150372156
it was one of the most overpowered weapons in the game
>>
Gents, what's a reliable way to get your Health down to lowest in order to maximize Frenzy & Berserker effects?

I heard getting tased while in swan song will revive you with 1%, but I haven't got skills in SS and it seems to be tricky to get to work

Anyone else regularly damage themselves before starting the actual heist? Pic is current armor
>>
>>150372393
>was
Still is.
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>>150372906
You could bait cloaker charges when you know you're in a space you can get revived. Won't count as a down and gets you at near death on DW. Just make sure you get the wololololo and not the jump kick or they could chain onto the bots/crew you're with.
>>
>>150372906
Frenzy exists so Zerk will always give you at least +100% melee +40% ranged damage. I, personally, think that's enough of a boost.
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>>150372906
Throw molotov at your feet, wait for a few seconds and move on the last moment.

That was my strategy to get the best from the yakuza perk deck for stealth heists.
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>>150374174
>throw molotov
>! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>Restarting in 5...
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>>150349189
sorry for the late reply i went to sleep

It isn't just my autism, it makes it slightly more complicated for both of us.
If the hose hadn't kicked me, I would've had to put in hcl for him.

It especially aggravates me because he was standing right in front of the hcl with me. Even if the awful netcode made it look like I was a mile away, he shouldn't have been waiting there to put it in.
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>>150374396
>Dressing for loud in a stealth game

Why?
>>
>>150374174
>>150374396
>>150374940
Why would you ever need to hurt yourself?
Zerk.
Why would you ever do that in stealth?
Saw.
Why would you ever use saw in stealth?
Bank deposit boxes.
When can you ever do that without shit hitting the fan?
When the entire map is locked down and volume doesn't matter.

/pdg/ pls
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>>150375101
What's the point of hurting yourself with Yakuza in stealth then if you're not going to use the increased movement speed until after the map is cleared out?
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>>150306269
>giving a shit about hidden profiles.
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>>150375267
Convenience while moving bags?
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>>150374396
Molotovs only have a range of a three-four meters so you can safely put yourself on fire without warning the kingdom.
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>>150357349
normal ecm is global(infinite range) and lasts (with the skills) for 30 seconds

ecm feedback is worthless but IIRC its 70-80 meters, penetrates walls
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>>150375615
>70-80 meters radius
That is wider than most maps. Feedback is definitely not map-wide.
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>>150375267
when moving gold bags on FF day 3 or artifacts on Shadow Rape, it can really make its difference.
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>>150375971
I'll give you FF but that's what Roof Zipline is for in Shadow Raid.
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>>150375101
all you need is 38 damage to open a safe deposit box, im pretty sure max health zerker/frenzy boost is enough

>>150375747
>>150357349

Correct it's 20 meters and requires line of sight my bad
>>
>>150376041
you still have to transport the artifacts to the roof
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>>150376041
>what Roof Zipline is for in Shadow Raid.

Yeah, tell that to the moving murkies in this map.
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>>150376349
>Murkies
>moving
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>>150376091
20 meters and line of sight... good to know.
So place on cielings on ontop of cover on the field...
Now if only there weren't so many filler skills in that tree I could work with this.
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>>150376416
if you're going to invest in combat deployables just invest in turrets instead

You can get 4 of them, or 6 if you really want it. If you run something like an ak .762 or an AMR or whatever, and put a quadstack magazine on, it will only take 46% of the 30 ammo in reserve. If you take surefire, then it;s only 15 ammo in reserve that the turrets will deplete.
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>>150376619
Cops can't break ECMs. Yet.

Turrets are now a finite resource even with infinite ammo so there's nothing wrong with trying out other shit. Feedback is an underused deployable anyway. Pubs never use their ECMs in loud heists even when they're in danger.
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>>150376814
Feedback is now standard on all ECMs including the 4min reload time, if only there more good skills in that tree for the 2nd ECM.
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Can security guards spot ecm on stealth ?
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>>150376962
No.

The only way an ECM alerts a guard is if some retard pub activates Feedback.
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>>150376962
Guards can't spot deployables

I don't think there's a situation where guards spotting ecms would matter, considering the purpose of ecms

>>150376814
Yeah, but ECMs are also significantly more impractical. Even if turrets may be destroyed, they're still more likely to be active more than once every 4 minutes - and they actually kill cops
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>>150377168
I'm just saying if he wants to try them out and dick around with them while anything is still DW viable, we shouldn't just angrily tell him to stop outright.
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>tfw jack of all trades is pretty much essential in all my builds now

It's just so damn good, being able to bring a second deployable, even if it is reduced in supply.

And only costs 12 points too.
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>>150376814
>mfw pubbies don't understand why as a ICTV Techforcer i take an ecm on Framing Frames day 2 loud
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>>150377671
It's more essential for stealthfags since the ecm/body bag makes its difference. In loud, your teammates usually take everything you would need so the skill would be a bit redundant.
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where the fuck is the heli turret on the biker heist, i only see the sniper heli and biles escape one
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>>150176193
You just don't. Problem solved.
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>>150377671
>And only costs 12 points
unfortunately half of what you invest into it is wasted if you do not run turrets
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>>150377671
>was about to type what >>150380803 said
>come to the sudden realization that loud sentries and quiet sentries are 2 different deployables
>6 sentry guns
The redundancy is REAL
>>
>>150380661
Just restart if you don't see it, it's bound to happen in this heist on Overkill difficulty.
>>
THE ESCAPE VAN IS HERE, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY

>>150381469
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>>150380803
Well, it's still worth the investment. Having more than one deployable is pretty invaluable, especially in solo.
Hell, you could even bring that single sentry with the few meager points that went into it.
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