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>people fell for the beastmen meme


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Daily reminder that if you purchased Beastmen DLC you just doomed this entire series.

Post your densest screenshots

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>>149952961
I'm having fun

So go suck a poo

>>149953025
>short term plebs
Oh you fool

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>>149953009
KHORNE WALKS IN AND SAYS "WHAT'S THAT NOISE"

AW KHORNE, YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS, IT'S THE BEAST-IE-BOYS

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You guys like my unit name?

In drakwald forest horse mounts you!

Centigors are great at fucking up ranged, 200 kills errytime. Minotaurs are beasts too. any other cool unit names?

>>149952982
When the options are either
> buy the DLC and hope Sega doesn't think it's easy money and cut content quality
or
> don't buy the DLC and run the risk of never having a complete Warhammer Fantasy world with all major races
I think I'd rather stick with the former

Anyone want to play co-op with me? I want to get better

>>149953580
>> don't buy the DLC and run the risk of never having a complete Warhammer Fantasy world with all major races
This isnt an option. Period.

The choice is ruin future DLC by buying this crap or dont, thats it.

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>>149953580
>> buy the DLC and hope Sega doesn't think it's easy money and cut content quality

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>149953657
Tell me, what's your issue with it

Beastmen have made sieges in my opinion more fun. I am enjoying story driven-ish campaigns.

>>149953607
Sure, link your steam.

>>149953873
Do you live under a god damn rock, like really?

>>149953928
No. What is your issue with it.

>>149953982
You're trolling, no one is that ignorant. No more replies for you.

Lorefags, hear my plea, and answer me these questions three:

1. Are Razorgors actual Beastmen or just wild animals that the Beastmen have tamed?

2. Why do Beastmen Giants have horns?

3. Why can Gorebulls speak but Minotaurs just make cow noises?

>>149953896
http://steamcommunity.com/id/092219

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Guess that's why they're called Gorebulls.

>>149954015
I guess you just don't have an argument, then. Or at least don't have enough confidence in your argument to actually start a debate. I've heard a dozen different reasons as to why people are unhappy with this DLC but at least half are pure bullshit.

>>149954015
U don't agre wit me so u must b so dum

>>149953873
Not him but
>missing 40% of the roster
>forced to buy minicampaign
>didnt include units that would have been easy and cheap to make or are necessary to make anyway
>recycled mechanics

More than enough justification to call this DLC rubbish, not to mention the fact that its setting the precedent of all future DLC to be missing core units as well as ramping up the price by tacking on shit hardly anyone wants.

Post orgasmic charges. Nonbeastman and nonwarhammer welcome as well.

Eye for an Eye was lots of fun but I'm disappointed at the lack of Toddbringer perspective. Honestly it didn't seem like there were enough beastmen-specific lore references to justify excluding an Empire perspective.

Would also just add more replayability, as it stands you pretty much only ever need to play it twice. (Once normal, once legendary)

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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

>>149954463
Hopefully never, she is a truly shit character and I hate time-warping/dimension-shifting mary sues who appear in multiple universes just cause her author is weirdly attached to her and unable to create new characters that gain any semblance of traction amongst the fanbase.

Who here want some beastmen erp?

KILL THEM

RAISE THEM

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Thread is surprisingly quiet tonight, guess everyone is playing the game.

Anyone else beaten an Eye for an Eye already? or did most of you just jump into a Grand Campaign first?

I was somewhat surprised an Eye for an Eye only took 100-125 turns to finish, although they did say it would be a shorter campaign.

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>>149954447
Why dont i just post orgasmic explosions instead

>>149955038
Im fairly disappointed, most of all because you only get to play as 1 faction and there is zero replayability.

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About to jump into a legendary beastmen campaign blind, how good are khazrak and malagor compared to each other?

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>Magic is finally starting to be not complete horseshit and actually worthwhile with the inclusion of spells like Devolve
>people are already saying it is too OP

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS FAGGOTS.

LEAVE MY LORE OF THE WILDS ALONE.

Seriously though, more Spellcasters go down in like 10-15 seconds when focused, it really shouldn't be a big deal that they have SOME form of offensive capability. Otherwise they would literally just be there to buff/give an aura bonus which would be lame as fuck.

>>149955178
Khazrak is pretty decent but doesn't get awesome until late game.

Malagor can pretty much blow the fuck out of people from the get-go due to the Lore of the Wilds.

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>Come back from work
>Have to sleep at 3am
>My playthrough of the human campaign is still fucked at turn 121
>Can't access it

What can I do to get my campaign back in working order cause I'm about to start yelling and threatening to bust some caps in a nigga.

>>149955038
finished my eye for an eye campaign already as well, enjoyed a lot of the little stuff like boni from defeating Boris the first time/destroying certain factions, interaction with other beastie hordes

also a great looking campaign map with lots of detail in certain areas, which however also was a problem in my mind: why the fuck is that mountain greenskin settlement in the west so detailed while Middenheim doesn't get a proper representation on the map?

all in all a fun, quick campaign

Was there no ending cutscene for winning the new campaign?

>>149955178
whatever you choose, make sure to get the hord growth skill upgraded asap

>>149954556
>unable to create new characters that gain any semblance of traction amongst the fanbase.

t. somebody who has never actually read a book that has Genevieve in it

>>149955968
You're right, I try to avoid consuming literal shit if I can help it.

>>149955521
Yikes, you might be shit outta luck there anon.

Best find some niggas to threaten with said caps.

>>149956035
>Hasn't even read it
>Thinks he has the authority to call it shit

>>149955835
No. Thanks for your $17.

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>>149954327
Why are people only complaining about missing units now? Every faction is missing some units, typically even more than the Beastmen:

Beastie Boys
> Doombull (there's no excuse for this)
> Harpies (will probably come with DElfs)
> Ghorgon
> Jabberslythe (never expected them to bother with this one desu)

Stunties
> Rangers
> Bolt Thrower
> Daemonslayer (lord)
> Dragonslayer (hero)
> Troll/Giantslayers
> Slayer Doomseekers

Jobbers
> Hellstriders of Slaanesh
> Chimera
> Putrid Blightkings
> Plague Toads
> Bile Trolls
> Skullreapers
> Skullcrushers
> Slaughterbrute
> Wrathmongers
> Chaos Siege Giant
> War Mammoth
> Mutalith Vortex Beast

Cunts
> Strigoi
> Corpse Cart
> Bat Swarm
> Spirit Hosts
> Mortis Engine

Gits
> Savage Orc Warboss
> Black Orc Warboss
> Night Goblin Great Shaman
> Orc Great Shaman (?)
> Savage Orc Great Shaman (?)
> Night Goblin Big Boss
> Goblin Shaman
> Savage Orc Shaman
> Spear Chukka
> Squig Herd
> Squig Gobba
> Squig Hoppers
> Mangler Squigs
> Colossal Squig
> Snotlings
> Pump Wagon
> Rogue Idol of Gork or Mork

SUMMON
> Imperial Master Engineer
> Wizard Lords (not really needed but still)
> Huntsmen
> State Archers
> Free Company
> Flagellants
> Celestial Hurricanum
> Knights Panther
> Knights of the Blazing Sun
> Knights of the White Wolf
> Grand Master of the White Wolf
> Seneshcal of the White Wolf
> Teutogen Guard
> Priest of Ulric
> Warriors of Ulric
> Wolf-Kin
> Hunting Hounds

>>149956159

Just tell it to me straight doc. Have I lost 16hrs of progress or is there a chance to save my 121turn campaign. Don't hold back, I'm not a nancy, I can take the truth.

>>149957239
It's dead Jim

>>149953284
NO

SLEEP

'TIL ALTDORF

>>149955835
that would cost too many charlemagnes

>>149957046
Because this DLC costs 1/3 the price of the full game. A game with near 100 units.

>>149955835
They were going to make one but the fact it would cost 7 Jabbers meant they simply couldn't, it was impossible, never could be done. Nope. Cant do it.

>>149958395
Fair, I suppose. I just hope that there's a balance struck between devs and players soon, because the amount of negativity over this is something I don't look forward to every month.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>149957046
>all those missing units

Is that for real? I haven't picked up the game yet but man, some of those are like what the fuck why is that missing?

>>149959293
>DLC

getting 3 reskinned barbarbar factions in attila for 8 euros is more overpriced

>>149959380
Yes I'm just positive if dlc didn't exist we would have all of those units, just like the good old days that never existed!

>>149954030
Chaos piggies

Chaos

Jews

>>149959293
A few of the Chaos ones are from the End Times event, the Cult of Ulric and Slayer-variant ones are from Storm of Chaos. The rest are standard 8th edition if I'm not mistaken.

Was kind of bummed that the Cult of Ulric in the new mini-campaign had literally no distinct units from the tabletop and just went with the standard Empire roster.

At least TWW is bringing to light the old Warhammer Fantasy universe, and might make GW take interest in working on it some more.

>>149959789
Delusion

>>149959519
You mean those good old days where content was worth the price, yeah fuck those days.

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>about to kill the last remaining city to claim ultimate victory
>kill city
>no victory
>check objectives
>had missed the "lmao get 2 tribes to join ur federation (Remaining: 1)"
>no tribes left
>have to load 120 turns to return to a point where there are tribes left

>>149959860
I'm not talking about a full release, but some further fluff and maybe an update to the armies that got left out of 8th would be nice.

I think I fucked myself. I have only one stack, I'm losing money each turn, and Middenheim is the last faction around.

Unless I find a way to maybe hide and hit and run their outskirts I'm not sure what to do.

>>149959789
Old fantasy is dead. Gone. Over. Its finished. What exists and is true now for the Old World is set in stone forever.

Enjoy your space marin- I mean sigmarin- I mean, shit, storm bolte- wait no thats not it either...

>>149959789
but if this brings in money for GW wouldnt they drop all the unprofitable stuff completely and focus on DLC?

>>149959789
They are working on it.

>>149960015
>tabletop Jews giving up tabletop
Do you know the profit they make on shitty plastic?

I'm trying to play dwarfs, and I have difficulty come around the turn 30~ mark where the Greenskins to the south get way too powerful and I can barely keep a single full stack up. I'm getting basically no income, and the different greenskin tribes keep running me around the map to try and defend anything I capture outside of my starting region. What am I doing wrong?

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>he will never be real

>>149953580
>he paid for the dlc
good goy

> People still bitching about the price
> It's like piracy doesn't even exist
Who still pays for games, seriously ?

>>149960105
theres so little tt players in general so not much

>>149959889
Never existed.

Are there any buildings aside from the Altdorf one which produces battle wizards? How the fuck do the independent provinces get wizards?

>>149960320
When you're looking at thousands of dollars per captive customer, it adds up.
The hobby is also doing alright in terms of numbers. I have a group of about a dozen players at the closest FLGS.

>>149960371
For you, you were not born yet. Piss off underage.

>>149960286
>not supporting your hobby

As if they anti antisemitism didn't make it apparent enough that you are pure scum.

>>149959661
>The rest are standard 8th edition if I'm not mistaken.
A number of those have been standard since 6th edition (some even 5th).

>huntsmen
>free company
>wizard lord
>snotlings
>pump wagon
>spear chukka
>bat swarm
>spirit hosts
>bolt thrower
>rangers
>slayers of all kinds
>black orc warboss
>night goblin great shaman
>orc great shaman
>night goblin big boss
>goblin shaman

Just to name a few.

>>149960015
>but if this brings in money for GW wouldnt they drop all the unprofitable stuff completely and focus on DLC?
Ill have what you're smoking

All up last year royalties made only 1.7 million pounds for GWS. Thats a fraction of the amount they make from miniatures.

Video games for GWS are a minuscule side project. They give their license out, collect royalties and ignore the rest. Its not big enough for them to care.

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>>149952760
Rollan!

>>149960129
>I'm trying to play dwarfs
>I'm getting basically no income
You're doing it WRONG. Dorfs are specialized on shekels.

First you need to remove any recruitment building from your main city (just keep the one already built at squighorn) and ONLY BUILD economic buildings. Mines, markets and shit.

To survive, focus on dwarves basic soldiers and quarellers. With a lord focus on red skills (axe lord) and 2-3 researchs to get the militia bonus. After that, go full blown economic research.

Now once you have your first region (so turn 2) you have to QUICKLY (use mountain path) rush to get Mount Gunbad (sweet gold mine) and then RUSH BACK to use your main army against Grimgor. USE YOUR FUCKING CITY GARNISON to block him, you have a huge army waiting to fuck him up for free. Once he's dead, you'll have time to secure your economy and siege the black crag.

>leave Silver Road for 2 turns to sack a town
>Silver Road is immediately invaded by 2 full armies
>physically impossible to build walls this early
There is no winning the dwarf campaign
Of this, I'm sure

Why is no one linking the old threads anymore?

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>>149960510
You still have to buy the base game and that's about as much support I feel like giving

>>149960560
It's the one thing that's keeping me from playing TWW. It doesn't feel like Warhammer without those options and Elf bashing.

>>149960648
R

>>149960648
Rollll

>>149960701
Ah, I see. So, don't worry about population growth/establishing order early on then, and focus on income?
Should I not try and start moving southward until later?

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Best bretonnia mod for campaign?

>>149960286
man yall some broke mother fuckers get jobs.

DLC is the price of ONE cocktail in San Francisco.

by buying this game and not going out 3 times it was a fucking profit.

Took me 60 turns to realize that the second army you get as Malakor is just a burden on your income, fuck that shit.

>>149961130
You move south with you have two armies, one for defending against a full stack, the other to siege a city.

In both you want tons of basic soldiers and quarellers, anything else is useless until late. With full bonus, basic soldiers become a fucking wall.

>>149961280
Yes but you need it for troops variety. You can't build everything in one single horde so you need that second army to stack up some horde population then build some utilities while your main horde get the bonus buildings

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>>149960394

>chaos dorfs have a rivalry with the skaven

I really want them to be in the game

>>149960797
I was waiting for more factions to be included before I dropped money on it. I play the tabletop, I'm not exactly in a hurry.

Plus, from what I can tell, Bretonnia doesn't have Knights Errant or Questing Knights yet? And their mounted Yeomen don't get bows AND spears but bows OR spears? Also, I don't even know if they get the Ladys Blessing or not.

>>149960394
>How the fuck do the independent provinces get wizards?
Magic

>>149961301
Alright, thanks, I think I get the idea now. So after I capture Mount Gunbad, just relax and build up forces and a strong economy and then start expanding south?
So are building to establish public order faster useless then? And should I consider upgrading anything other than my capital early on for the bonus building slots?

>>149961130
>growth
one farm per full region (build one as first building at gunbad though) and keep the growth commandment (and upgrade it with research)

> public order
meh, you're keeping an army at home so you don't really care, except Gunbad which is hard to reach and you don't want to leave an army there.

>>149960510
>they anti antisemitism

What?

>>149961380
I just let the lord sit around in a corner and use the growth event.

>>149961547
I think he meant you're a jew lover

>>149961451
>Bretonnia doesn't have Knights Errant or Questing Knights yet
They do
> And their mounted Yeomen don't get bows AND spears but bows OR spears
Game system limits
> Ladys Blessing
Lord's skill

>>149961618
>> And their mounted Yeomen don't get bows AND spears but bows OR spears
>Game system limits
Thats rubbish when we already have units that can switch

Even Attila does

>>149961518
>should I consider upgrading anything other than my capital early on for the bonus building slots?
Wait for capital to be rank 3 then expand the town to rank 3 too. Rank 4 can wait.

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>>149961593
Tell the Israeli military to stop pimping out their chicks for me to masturbate to, don't tell me to stop masturbating

#notallgoyim

>>149961737
women are inferior to men.

>>149961618
>They do
The list I was looking at was probably outdated then.
>Game system limits
Gotta agree with >>149961661, that's some fuckin bullshit.
>Lord's skill
Neat, where can I view more information on this?

>>149961380

>can't build everything in one horde

Yes you can. Learn how to count.

>>149961661
I'm sorry but is this game called warhammer:attila? No? Then shut the fuck up. None of the units in game have two weapons, so why should brettonia be any special? It doesn't affect the game in any way. It's purely aesthetic.

>>149961871
Its the exact same engine you absolute moron and EVERY single ranged cav unit in the game has a secondary melee weapon, Yeomen just have the wrong one.

>>149961965
Mods.

>>149961871
>None of the units in game have two weapons
Then that's even more bullshit. There are a number of units that should have 2 weapons and be able to switch. Black Orcs, for example, should be able to switch between Choppa and shield, 2 Choppas, or a Great Weapon, as they're "Armed to da teef".

Sounds like CA being dumb.

>>149962039
It is the responsibility of CA to not fuck up, not modders to fix their bullshit.

>>149962072
>There are a number of units that should have 2 weapons and be able to switch
What dont you get? do you know how many charlemagnes that would be give ca a break

>>149962072
Pointless feature. If you want a black ork with great weapons then just recruit one. Simple.

>>149962073
So you're just whining over nothing. Got it.

>>149962190
>the feature is even in game
>the only issue is there is no button to do it
Same with the ability to dismount

>>149960314
Can you even pirate Attila or Warhammer? I thought they had actual functioning anti-piracy DRM.

>>149962251
Im pointing out you're an absolute moron

>None of the units in game have two weapons

>> And their mounted Yeomen don't get bows AND spears but bows OR spears
>Game system limits

You have absolutely no idea what you are taking about. Im not even the anon you were replying to.

>>149962281
>Can you even pirate Attila or Warhammer?
yes

>>149962327
If you want yeomen with spears then recruit one with spears. What's the problem? Are you brain dead?

>>149961767
So whatchu sayin is we shuld be gayz?

>>149962281
>Can you even pirate Attila or Warhammer?
no

>>149962254
>>the feature is even in game
Really?
If thats true that makes all the beastmen dlc buying cucks even worse

>>149962362
Feel free to actually read what you are responding to rather than digging an even bigger hole of idiocy.

>>149962396
>no retort

I win.

>>149962387
Hi, CA shill, I'm totaly not playing your cracked game right now.

>>149962362
The point is they're supposed to have both. Having two units to do the job one unit should be doing is retarded.

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>PoM using meme composition and meme tactics in mp again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi2wykNRolQ

>>149962389
What do you mean if, what do you think happens when your ranged unit gets into melee?

>>149962446
You failed to post anything relevant to all the arguments put before you
>>149962327
>>149962072
>>149961661
>>149961451
>>149961813

You 'lost' moron.

>>149962350
You can pirate Attila, but last I heard the denuovo used in Warhammer prevents you from pirating it.

>>149962467
>why should I have to recruit so many units? Why can't I just spam this one unit and have it fulfill all roles???

>>149962446
Please, go on and explain how

>>None of the units in game have two weapons
and
>>Game system limits
Is true

>>149962519
It was cracked like a week ago

>>149962542
Yes, wanting a game based off the tabletop to be faithful to the tabletop is wrong.

Go fuck yourself, moron.

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>tfw soon

>>149962581
Show me a unit where you can convert weapons on the fly. It's not up to me to prove that something doesn't exist dumb christfag.

>>149962642
It's a strategy game in the setting of the TT dumb fuck. It's not literally the TT.

>>149962542

Kids seem to get really autistic over their pointless matters. Totalwarhammer is fun. It's the best game CA have made, some people can't let go of the minor details and enjoy life.

They forget that video games are a hobby you do after fucking the wife and paying bills. Let's all just relax and enjoy a game of strategy, wits and daring.

>>149962650
Sure thing

Witchhunters
Crossbows
Hand Gunners
Pistoliers
Outriders
Outriders with grenade launchers
Miners (blasting charges)
Quarrellers
Quarrellers (Great Axes)
Thunderers
Irondrakes
Irondrakes (Trollhammer torpedo)
Gyrocopters
Gyrocopter (brimstone)
Gyrobomber

I could go on but you just got BTFO already so there you go.

>>149962465
>Hi, CA shill
>not being a thief means I'm a shill
Well then, call me Shillary Segaberg

>>149962509
Referring to the dismounting mate

>Giants are shit teir

>Cyclops are top tier (great anti inf but suck vs buildings)

>Minotaurs are god tier (destroyed everything ive put them against)

>Gorebull god tier (was 3 shoting the enemy generals big lv difference desu)

feel free to add on

>>149962810
Oh, well we've had that for years in this engine. Its easily doable they just didnt bother.

>>149962732
>wife
do you actually think more than 10% of the bitter cunts in here have a gf/wife?

>>149962779
They don't change on the fly stupid fuck. They only change to their secondaries.

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>>149962813
Not just playing empire

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>>149962786
>being a thief

>>149962875
>right click = first weapon
>alt + right click = switch weapon
Kid you can try to save face all you want but you just got proven wrong, get over it.

No more replies for you.

>>149962849
It's not that they didn't bother, they fucking outright said it was a feature before the game even released. It's part of the game design.

>>149962875
What are you even trying to argue here first you said no unit has a second weapon, thats wrong. Now you're claiming they do have a second weapon, but it doesnt count because...?

Seriously calm down and explain yourself, stop doing this pure autistic incomprehensible rage.

>>149962943
Show me a picture of crossbowmen holding their swords without fighting the enemy. I'll wait. Also that's their secondary weapon, not a second primary.

>>149962909
How old are you?
Is that some kind of anarchist phase you're going through?
Maybe I'm getting to old for this shit...

>>149962716
>It's a strategy game in the setting of the TT
Yes exactly, so it should follow the TT. Almost all fast cavalry in the Warhammer world have spears AND bows.

>>149963003
They don't fucking have a second weapon, they have a secondary weapon, which isn't the fucking same as a primary is it? Do I have to spell everything out for you? I'm sick of faggots in this general thinking they're smarter than actual qualified game designers.

>>149963076
Oh right, you are literally just trolling.

Dude grow up, /twg/ is shitty enough without people like you being morons.

>>149963148
>i don't agree with you therefore you're trolling

You fucking grow up you petulant child. Leave the game designs to people who are actually paid to do it.

>>149963076
>They don't fucking have a second weapon, they have a secondary weapon
What's the fucking difference?!?
You can order an attack with the secondary weapon, ever charged archers into a unit?

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>>149963016
Not him but what shitpost are you going to say now

>>149963225
A secondary is a last resort weapon stupid fuck, spear yeomen are designed to be melee cavalry and bow yeomen are the complete opposite.

>>149963257
There's an enemy on the map. You can click on him to switch weapons. Hardly meets the criteria of "not fighting the enemy" does it?

>>149963225
Hes a moron anon, just ignore him. He will say anything to save face. He'll shitpost no matter what.

>>149963210
Yeah, im the child. The person using facts and logic to show how stupid you are. Whatever, if you want to shitpost go ahead but I wont be a part of it anymore.

>>149963297
>A secondary is a last resort weapon
And a second weapon? Did you think he was talking about Yeomans dual wielding bow and spear??

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>>149963076
>>149963210
>Quarrellers shoot some fags
>Tell them to melee attack some faggots
>They switch to axe and shield and get at it
In the game right now.
>Mounted Yeomen shoot some fags
>Tell them to melee attack some faggots
>They switch to spears can charge them
Impossible with current engine.

>>149963396
quarrellers are still weaker than their melee counterparts, because they're using their secondary. bow yeomen would be weaker than their counterparts if you gave them spears. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

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>>149963358
>There's an enemy on the map
And? You dont have to click on any units to switch weapons. There is an entire dedicated key for it, F. As in F for Foolish, which you are.

>>149963550
Explain to me how this button would switch between melee weapons like you suggested.

>>149953580
I just won't care for any future Total War thanks to this bullshit, I just want SEGA to drown in the mount of shit they created, and give EA some decent competitor for the "worst publisher" title

Also, I'm a cocksucker for WHFB

I'm confused anons

I just know that Cygors have melee mode

And so it should maybe be possible for Yeomen to have a toggle also

Would probably also work for Dawi Rangers

IF WE HAD ANY

>>149963595
>press F
>switches between two melee weapons
Very hard. Much difficulty.

>>149963529
>quarrellers are still weaker than their melee counterparts
Yeah, because CA designed it that way which doesn't have to be.
You can make the secondary weapon kill the whole battlefield with one swing and the main weapon do no damage at all.

Not the guy you were originally talking with so maybe I'm missing something in this 'discussion'

>>149963550
>>149962254
So there IS a button to do it, the only thing holding you back was your own stupidity. CA haters BTFO, played straight into my hands. 4D chess.

>>149963626
>IF WE HAD ANY
but we do ?

>>149963682
who are you? this whole thing is so confusing

>>149963697
Dawi Rangers or a way to switch weapons?

>>149963626
They do have a toggle. There is just one idiot in this thread who has no idea how TW even works and is trying to shitpost to save face.

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>>149963529
>bow yeomen would be weaker than their counterparts if you gave them spears.
Fucking why? It's just stats bud, not some impossible game engine shit. Get someone to mod quarrellers to equal stats to warriors and guess fucking what? They be a far fight in melee.

>Bow yeoman have the same charge bonus, melee attack, melee defense and weapon strength as the current spear yeoman
>Spear yeoman do not exist
Tell me why this is impossible to code friend.

>>149963668
Uh, no you can't make the primary weapon kill the entire battlefield in a single hit. You can make it do lots of damage in a single hit but never to that state.

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>>149963697
We got Quarrelers, but no Rangers. Similar but different units on TT.

>>149963814
>Uh, no you can't make the primary weapon kill the entire battlefield in a single hit
You actually can, all units have an AoE stat.

>>149963786
If bow yeomen are as good as spear yeomen then why the fuck would anyone recruit spear yeomen? Fucking use your brains please. You faggots always complain about balance but it would be in a worse state if left to you.

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>>149963883
>Bow yeoman have the same charge bonus, melee attack, melee defense and weapon strength as the current spear yeoman
>Spear yeoman do not exist
>Spear yeoman do not exist
>Spear yeoman do not exist

>>149957046
What units is Bretonnia missing?

>>149963883
>why the fuck would anyone recruit spear yeomen
They simply wouldn't exist because that's the whole point of this fucking farce, Yeoman should have both weapons as a single unit

>>149963859
There's a hardcap on the AoE and impossible to hit all the units in a map.

>>149963883
>If bow yeomen are as good as spear yeomen then why the fuck would anyone recruit spear yeomen?
Because infantry =/= calvary you uneducated moron.

One has a bonus to large, the other doesn't. Its how every single TW game works.

Jesus you really have no idea about TW at all. Even shitty places like reddit dont have people so ignorant and as loud as you.

>>149963830
Those look like they would be high tier units with vanguard deployment and I want them now.

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Holy shit Minotaurs are insane, and Gorebulls are even crazier.

>ripping apart units in under a minute

Which makes me ask, do units like Minotaurs and Trolls do friendly damage to my own units when their AoE attacks send everyone flying?

>>149954030
Razorgors are more like 'Chaos boars' so they share features and goals with Beastmen

Chaos' edgemagic makes horns grow everywhere, i don't recall the beastmen giants having those huge horns nor fur, that's been CA's doing (it looks quite good tho)

That's the reason one is a mighty Gorebull and the others are shitty generic Minotaurs, also, they are more touched by Chaos so it makes sense they get to speak the Dark tongue

>>149963814
>what is hyperbole

>>149963960
I doubt that

>>149964021
Im pretty sure they can, at the very least iv seen my own generals throw my own troops away with their attacks.

>>149963830
>We got Quarrelers, but no Rangers
But... We HAVE rangers or is it a mod who added them and I didn't realise ?

>>149963931
>fast moving unit that can fight in melee and shoot projectiles

what's next, make them fly too? Oh and forget spears, give them halberds and add fear and also give them the duellist trait for heroes . Also allow them to cast all the schools of magic!

>/twg/'s idea of balance

>>149964021
>>149964069
nah as far as im aware it only archers & arty that do ff, they get knocked down but always get back up

>>149964140
>make them fly too?
no one said that
>give them halberds
no one said that
>add fear and also give them the duellist trait for heroes . Also allow them to cast all the schools of magic!
no one said that

>/twg/'s idea of balance
looks to be better than yours also it's GW's idea of balance

>>149964140
>He doesn't know about the Sisterhood of the Thorn and Dark Elf Warlocks
Warhammer is FUN.

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>this whole thread

>>149964283
Women are inferior to men.

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>>149964018
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarf_Rangers
Get yer fill. They would indeed be higher tier units, if tabletop is anything to go by.

>>149964093
Just checked and the only Dawi missile infantry are Thunderers, Quarrelers, and Irondrakes. Must be a mod then.

>>149964321
Then get the mod because they have their own believable graphic, portraits and stats.

>>149964283
Balanced by low numbers and rarity.

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>>149964318
give birth then you big strong man :^)

>>149964318
Men are inferior to Ogres.

>>149964415
Grown from the seed of man. Women are simply the pot.

>>149964416

Please. Ogres can't even beat a hole in the ground.

>>149964397
Still a fun unit that mixes ranged light cavalry and spellcasters.

>>149964496
>The Great Maw
>Just a hole
I've eaten men for saying less than that.

>>149964140
Nigga, you need to play the TT. Almost every fast cavalry unit has a bow and spear. Warhammer is a crazy world with worse shit than fast cav with a bow and spear.

>>149961618
Please, tell me where the knights errant/questing knights are because, at least, Bretonnia doesn't have them

>>149964605
Find mods.

>/twg/ - Missing Persons General

>>149964591
Yeah but is there anything crazier than a 100 ton, multi turreted land ship with a crew of 15?

>>149957046
>Skullcrushers of Khorne
"Oi mates just got lost on our way to WH40k"

>>149964939
Skullcrushers are neat. Even heavier cavalry for a faction with the best heavy cavalry unit bar Vamps and Ogres.

>>149964021
They will make your dudes PARTY HARD if they are on their way, but nothing beyond that

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>>149964939
Reminder that the Soul Grinder was allowed in WHF and didn't get a model change

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>tfw there is still no mod that unlocks Middenheim

REEEEEEE, all unlock mods overwrite the Beastmen for the grand campaign!

>>149964415
Homunculi soon

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>>149965008
I just never liked their mounts. These "mechanical" beasts look really out of place in WHFB setting.

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>>149965173

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>>149964816
KV-VI? And yes the automorial of Middenheim Delivered from Darkness.
Pic related

>>149965204
Empire engineers ride robot horses.

>>149964675
>Find mods
>There's no mod tools so any 'Questing knight' uses sword&shield animations
Lame

>>149965206

What am I looking at here?

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>turn 10
>pic related happens
so much for that exciting empire campaign

>>149965206
I don't get it

>>149965204
They're better when they're envisioned as daemonic brass and molten fury things that just run into shit.

>>149965268
A guy supposedly put his semen into a chicken egg for some interspecies crossbreeding.

>>149965257
>>149965257
I have a mod with questing knights having two hand swords

>>149965289
There's only one Beastman faction in the grand campaign, isn't there? I bet they don't even have the two separate hordes for Malagor and Khazrak's start positions. God damnit.

>>149965204
>a setting where germans invented tanks and women are strong and fight in the front lines
>HURR THESE MECHANICAL DOGS ARE OUT OF PLACE

whatever you say

>>149965367

Disgusting. Also, pretty certain that wouldn't work.

>>149965425
Nah, I've seen some named tribe fucking around with orcs.

>>149964675
>find self-indulgent crap created by teenagers who just made up the stats on the fly

fixed

>>149965425
There's 3 minor tribes afaik but they also get stomped out almost immediately. It's because their auto resolve is heavily stacked against them due to the poor quality of beastmen units.

>>149965008
>Even heavier cavalry for a faction with the best heavy cavalry unit bar Vamps and Ogres.
>Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos are the same faction
>this is what plebs actually think

>>149965490
You make it sound as if warhammer wasn't written by an edgy chu2 teenager with little imagination and just mashed whatever he thought was cool into a single universe

>>149965435
>steam tanks are huge machines with, guess what, steam engines
>are made by a highly advanced steampunkish civilization

>mech dogs outclass modern day robotics
>are made by some satanists living in shit

>>149965425
There's spawing hordes across the map
Right now a spawned horde with a red flag just took the BP's capital and is pouring corruption into my lands (playing dwarves)

>>149965492
its mostly AI having no idea how to horde

>>149965435
Fair point, I guess it's pointless to complain about these things in fantasy setting. Anyway, it was mostly aesthetical pewee, they still look way more advanced than crude shit that fueled by madmen's vision.

>>149965204
If CA ever adds them, I hope they make them more organic, like WAR did

>>149965776
>steam tanks which are hundreds of years old (it's ancient therefore it must be good) in a 15th century empire which are combat effective is probable but magic mechanical dogs aren't

this guy

>>149965562
>implying Chaos Lords can't get Skullcrusher mounts
Also, End Times happened.

>>149959940
Enjoy age of smegma, buddy.

Minotaurs are way too overpowered in the game right now, nerf incoming

>>149965127
because Chaos

>>149965562
>WoC don't get Skullcrushers.
>This is what people who haven't read the army book believe.

>>149966256
>Minotaurs are way too overpowered
and the rest is too underpowered

>>149966256
They just wreck shit up. Did the quest battle where the enemy has only minotaurs. They nearly destroyed my full stack and i barely managed to squeeze a victory.. And this was on normal

>>149966250
I just play 8th with friends really.

>>149966256
Just had 4 units of minotaurs pretty much taking Nuln by themselves. While the gors and ungors where still climbing the walls, minotaurs had single handly broke the gates, routed the ennemy general and his two regiments of hallebards, crush through a reiksgard unit, ate tons of range units and mortars and finally cleaned the central place, making everyone routing. The only help was the shaman with beast lore making huge aoe (OP too) and my two generals running behind them

>Devolve
This is hilarious.

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>>149966459
I'm building an Empire army for 8th/9th and I have nobody to play with. I also have ~30 Gors, 10 bestigors, 2 giants, and a bunch of hero models for Beastmen from years ago. I don't want to go play with smelly people at game stores.

>>149966589
They should put a much higher chance to avoid damage.

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>get bored halfway through Eye for an Eye
>get two hordes with brayherds
>steamroll the rest of the map

Eat the Eye

>>149966626
pics

>>149966675
None painted yet, most of my Empire isn't even assembled. I'm in the process of stripping all the cheap handgunners I got off ebay. I'll find someone :^)

>>149966626
Just ignore the smelly ones.

>>149966741
sounds comfy, any pics of beastmen?

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>>149966824
I have a greenstuff painted giant/cygor/ghorgon that I may post pics of at a later time, the rest is all grey plastic.

>>149957046
>Knights Panther
>Knights of the Blazing Sun
Stop this meme. They're just empire knights or reiksguard that you paint in different colours. They were never units with their own rules.

Post mod or mods you can't play without:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=693722500
Makes Lords not have boring ass level ups

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=692306546
No more fighting Dorfs with 12+ Quarreler stacks.

>>149967375
Anon would a reputable site like 1d4chan lie to us, come on now. But the fact that those are the two chapterhouses you can build in the grand campaign I really wouldn't be surprised if those two specific orders were added as units later.

>>149967375
There is
A HOUSE
In Talaaaabheim
They call it
The Blaaaazing Sun

And It's been in ruin
Of many a poor boy
And Sigmar knows
I'm one

>>149966456
Get a better army composition for what you're fighting. I beat that with a load of ungor spearmen, a few units of ungor raiders, and the three poison hounds I still had from khazrak's quest.

>hordes grow even when you're not encamped now

THANK GOD

Anyone saying WoC are still a pain in the ass is completely wrong, Archaon's campaign is much easier and less of a fucking bitch now that you don't have to stay encamped for ten turns to get some units that don't suck

>half my mods still aren't updated
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>149966902
sweet

I give up, lads.
Karaz-a-Karak can burn in hell.

>turn 12, unified reikland by turn 10
>beastie boyz show up near holmgard
>garrison it with my second stack with 4 swordsmen and have Karl stand next to the town
>eliminate beastie boyz on their turn because they try to bypass karlz stack with beastpath and just get intercept crushed

Do beastie boyz come back like WoC or did I just eliminate a main faction permanently before my turn 13?

>>149967703
Yeah, that's great. I tend not to think about growth, I just see how much I've accumulated when I encamp to replenish units.

Also, friendly reminder that you can encamp whenever you have 25% movement left, so you can still sneak around the map while camping if you don't mind having to change stance twice a turn.

>>149967650
Yeah i might had a shitty army cos im still learning the new units ( i tought i had pretty good army for it) but still when you have army of like 7 units just drill trough everything makes them seem a bit op

>>149965795
Well the beastmen grand campaign is pretty bizarre. Malagor basically has to beast-path 10 turns just to get to decent targets.

>>149967824
If you STILL shit the bed with dwarves despite our advices, you can try another (shitty) way which is accurate fluff wise: WALL YOURSELF IN

Just get the Silver Road (and Gunbad because it's a freebe) and rush the developpment of the little towns and immediatly construct fortifications. With a level 2 fortification, nothing can take your place. Nothing.

Once it's done, just slowly grow your economy then your army. You'll waste tons of turns but won't get raped.

>>149967824
Our players are running from the game my lord!

A SHAMEFUL DISPLAY!

Ignore the chucklefucks telling you to grab Mount Gunbad early, it's a trap to send your army out of the way like that.

>>149967714
>southern realms is already updated

Impressive

>>149968038
Beasts in general are bizarre

>>149967926
Yeah that was my strategy during the pre-Beastmen WoC campaign since the only way to grow was to encamp

>>149968037
>still learning the new units
There's only three units you need to kow:
> MINOTAURS
> MINOTAURS (with shields)
> MINOTAURS (with great axes)

>>149968138
Unconvinced by MINOTAURS ? Give them a Redbull (Gorebull with red skils)... oh wait no, give them TWO Redbulls to have armor AND melee bonus. And rush the researchs giving them bonus. And have a lord with minotaurs bonus.

RAPE !

HOLY DICKS WHAT IS THAT CYGOR ROCK DMG 1/4 OF A SQUAD WIPE PER ROCK

>>149959938
For me both of said tribes died around turn 50

I have no saves going back that far...

Like fuck if I'm replaying all this shit again.

>>149968138
Pretty much :D. Maybe 4 if you count gorebull in there

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Did they buff the Luminark? That thing just took 129 of my guys in like 4 shots, including golden-level minotaurs

>>149968267
its unreal a cygor is probably the second or third best artilllery together with hell cannons and doom divers

also who thought devolve was balanced like o ercasted one puts a whole blob of units down to 50% hp

>>149968525

They made it more tanky, otherwise no.

>>149968525
>There's something in the game that counters minotaurs
NERF IT NOW CA

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>>149968138
Apart from fun Cygors seem pretty pointless seeing as minotaurs cna smash down a gate with no casualties in under a minute.

>after years of being subpar on the tabletop, Minotaurs become the ungodly rapetrain they were meant to be in TWW.

Just wait until Ogres get released.

>>149968661
>Apart from fun [every beastmen unit] seem pretty pointless seeing as minotaurs cna do everything with no casualties in under a minute.

>>149968587
not to mention they can engage in melee, haven't used magic yet normally just rush the gates with cows and win

>>149968714
Ogres will be slow, what makes Minotaurs true rapist is their backflip, high jump and barrel rolls all through the battlefield

>>149968714
>those belly charges

can't wait

>Constantly failing ambushes in the Eye for an Eye campaign
This is frustrating. What's even the point of the other trees if you need to max out the blue one as Beastmen?

>>149968587
> Hell cannons
> Good
You're not playing with ultra large units, are you ?

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>>149968714
>Supbar TT units get turbocharged in the game
>Tomb Kings become the ultimate steamroller race
Kinda glad how good the minotaurs turned out to be, considering how awful the actual models were.

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>>149968815
Who needs speed when you've got an entire unit carrying cannons?

>>149968815
>Ogres
>Slow
HAH

>>149968830
Truly glorious. Just imagine how great the Stonehorn will look.

>>149968661
>>149968727
>>149968746

the only problem ive had with rushing the gate is when they had 4 rows of cannons on the other side of the gate, a lot of steak was eaten that day

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>>149968925
Literally a guided missile

>>149968892
You know, you're probably not far off given how good chariot units are now.

And Kangz are all about chariots and cav archer spam

> Fighting a Bestman

Let's take a look
> He has centigors/razorbacks
Archers !
> He has gors
Troops !
> He has a giant/chaos spawn
Ahahahaha !
> He has a cygor
Fuck
> He has minotaurs
RUN !
> He has a Gorebull
WHY GOD WHYYYY

>>149968892
Give me glorious Necrosphinxes please.

>>149968989
Ogres truly are the best army. How can you beat hungry hungry Mongols with ice age friends?

>day 2
>still can't play warhammer

>>149969149
Spearmen. Lots and lots of very cheap spearmen.

It worked in that malagor quest battle.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gBH84nzric

Can't wait to play with a litteral rape train

>>149968630
>minotaurs are the new demigryphs

>>149969195
>laughingleadbelchers.postdinnergreasetapestry

>>149968892
desu I'd pay for a tomb kangs secondary campaign like "eye for an eye" where as Settra you have to subjugate the other faggots back under your rule.

>>149969149
Chaos dorfs are more interesting

So what's the ideal Beastman lineup? Their only good ranged unit seems to be the Cygor so I'm not sure how to compensate.

>>149963951
Only 3 + another Legendary Lord

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>>149969149
I'm not sure how I feel about the 8th edition Tomb Kings monsters. They're cool and all but they feel out of place.
The Warsphinx is pretty neat though.

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By the way, even if they have units carrying canons, they have a wooly rhino powered, celestial giant canon

>>149969274
>demigryphs
Pfff that weak ass toolate-tier unit ? You can start producing minotaurs on TURN 10 you motherfucker

>>149969342
>Muh Ziggurat hats and fire demons
They're neat, but Ogres riding wooly rhinoceros are cooler.

>>149969375
I just saw them as a natural expansion from the animated statues they always had hanging around.

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>Both of my hordes camped outside Middenheim
>Middenland only owns Middenheim
>Armies of Hochland closing in from all directions.
>Boris only has two units in his army
>Trying to retreat to Middenheim
>If he reaches the city the campaign is lost.
>I only have one shot at victory.

Well that was the most stressful I've ever been playing Total War, having him march stance around my forces getting closer and closer to the city made me risk a heart attack.

Luckily I got the bastard by forcing him into an ambush.

>>149969375
>yfw CA will pull a cygor with the TK and only make the necrosphinx

The warsphinx is 100 times cooler than that flying cunt.

>>149969394
> implying this will make it into the GC, let alone the game

>>149968989
I don't know why all the 7th-8th edition art for ogres was them butchering Bretonnians. Bretonnia must be the furthest place from the mountains of mourn.

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>>149969350
yeah just use them as your ranged units i gor 4 in my army you could have 5-6 maybe, then just use Minotaurs and Bestigor Herds with a gorebull in the mix and your golden

>>149969495
it will, but the gnoblar scraplauncher will not

It seems that, when a box can make 2-3 different models, CA only take one

That's why I'm afraid we will not see the stonehorn and instead have the big yetilephant

>>149969502
WE MUST FIND THE GRAIL OF OUR LADY.

>>149969494
Why not just have only Ushabti?

>>149969494
>Only the Warsphinx gets added
>People complain that ""iconic"" units like the Necrosphinx were left out

>>149969502
It was GW's subtle way of telling the fanbase that Bretonnia was squatted.

>>149969424
The problem with Ogres is they don't do anything in the lore

Chaos Dorfs will MAKE ogres interesting because the Dawi Zharr will provide an enemy to fight

Also Chaos Dorfs have an engineering rivalry with the Skaven and both races have their own special snowflake chaos god instead of the four main gods

And Chaos Dwarfs have a hatred for the Dwarfs and the Dwarfs refuse to acknowledge the Chaos Dwarfs exist.

And Chaos Dwarfs have a reason to fight with Greenskins because they keep enslaving the mushroom men and those Black Orcs got away.

Chaos Dwarfs are just generally more interesting in terms of conflicts they're involved in.

>>149969652
Boner giant is a must

>>149969847
Along with the Tomb Scorpion and the Carrion.

Best army in game right now:

> One-eye with red skills on monstruous beast
> 2 shamans with Beast Lore (DEVOLVE !)
> 2 Gorebulls with red skills (one armor, other melee)
> 6 Minotaurs with shields to serve as front liners
> 8 Minotaurs with great axe to serve as flankers and rapists
> One Cygor to fuck with them and add long-range fuckery

INVINCIBLE