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>>149903014

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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>Darkmoon queue times
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N I N E
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>>149946901
>150 tongues
>50 or so forked
>30 or so shackles

I should start mound making more, but I noticed msot of times I get my shackle before I want to leave the invasion.
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Why are BB's gestures so much better than DaS3's?
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>>149947092
>all these forked tongues
I'm gonna keep shilling this dead thread until I die
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>>149947165
Man, blues are retarded
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>>149947092
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>>149947576
>Blue Spirit NotAllMuslims
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>>149947576
Host is likely inside Wolnir's seeing all this death
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>Bountiful Light doesn't improve with the use of Morne's Ring or Sun's First Born

Welp. Does anything at all improve the health restored?
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unf
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>>149948114
Yeah, the amount you believe in yourself.
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>>149948031
Is that even possible?
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>>149947692
That reminds me of my one and only blue summon
>playing around with the Lothric Knight UGS and resin bundles to amp the lightning damage
>summoned as a blue
>spawn in that exact spot on the archer part of post-pontiff irithyll
>see host's HP bar show up in my bottom left corner with only a sliver left in it
>his HP bar is moving right pretty fast, like he's running
>sprint down the narrow roof bridge thing down towards the tower overlooking the bridge with the deacon guys
>host's HP bar is getting closer, he's almost directly under the tower
>put on a bundle while I'm sprinting
>host's HP bar passes under the tower
>jump off the tower, completely blind
>land with a buffed UGS plunging attack directly on the red that was sprinting after the host, killing him instantly.
>host turns around and realize what happened
>simultaneous warcry
I really, really wish I had recorded it. I will never get a chance to do something that cool in this game ever again.
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>>149948114

Only spell buff influences healing spells that have any scaling to begin with.
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souls bf where
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>>149948273

Seems like.

I also just tested Lingering Dragoncrest +1 and it actually decreases the amount of health you get by 7 HP.

I mean, still worthwhile for my weapon buffs, but goddamn.
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d e e
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ganking companion is deceased!
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Finished DaS blind playthrough, what are some things I was guaranteed to miss?
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>>149948114
No. The only health restoration miracle that scales is Blessed Weapon, and it's only 1hp/s per 50 spellbuff.

All the other ones give you exactly and only exactly what you get. There's also no regen miracle in the game that's actually good, which is unfortunate since faith is literally built around them being core spells.
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>>149948419
Ash Lake
Fighting 4Kangz early and talking to Kaathe, and therefore the alternate ending
Probably some of the more obtuse NPC quests
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>>149948232
They patched it for some bosses but not all. Haven't tried with Wolnir but you should be able to go inside and not touch the chalice.
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>>149948384
Never
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I'm at the Looking Glass Knight in DaS 2. Should I get summoned by him or just beat him and move on?
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>>149948419

optional area w/ boss accessible from firelink shrine. the crow will help out but you must be VERY patient.

from that area you get an item that brings you into another optional zone, this one's found in anor londo. sort of obvious to find, just think a bit creatively.

there's another hidden zone in blighttown. let's just say the roots hide a lot.
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ANOTHER SESSION OF _____________
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>>149948419
Many of the NPC quests are incredibly obtuse, to the point where a quest will silently fail and dead-end because of the 5 possible options, 4 of them meant not being able to progress it and there was no way of knowing that your decision was incorrect.
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Should I get the candlestick sword or the weird dark sorcery from the deacons of the deep soul?
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He's hiding in the fog, oh well
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>>149949150
>guts
10 bucks says he was a magic fag and not a greatsword guy
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>>149949082
You can get the better version by doing 10 faithful invasions. Get the candlesword
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>>149948997
POST-PONTIFF'S META TOURNAMENTS
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>>149949219
He was actually a farron armor with greatsword so it was 5/10
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>>149949082

Candle is the worst Straight Sword aside from the Broken SS. Get the sorcery if you want to get the all magic achievement without going to NG+.
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>>149948757
summoning is rare. and might only be NG+
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>>149948562
>>149948897
>>149949073

Totally missed Kaathe and every NPC quest Solaire is dedzo and I actually laughed when I met him with the sunlight maggot

Unfortunately I knew a decent amount about the game before starting (good 5 years of spoilers) so the painting area was easy to find once I stumbled upon the doll. Also by fuck me I didn't go totally blind and looked up how to get back to asylum and get the ring for gwyndolin I will go try to find ash lake "blind" then and then unblindly start the DLC stuff I suppose. Thanks my dudes.
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>>149949082
They're both trash.
The spell is spammable and low-cost but is basically just soul arrow that deals dark damage. The projectile travels extremely slow and the tracking gets better over distance, meaning it will only actually track decently well (read: not miss moving targets) at max lockon range. It has the exact same tracking as dark souls 1 soul arrows, and isn't better damage or FP efficiency-wise than the bog standard soul arrow you can buy from the handmaid. You get an upgraded version of it from rank 1 of the aldrich faithful covenant that's one of the best pve sorceries in the game, so there's absolutely no reason to get the poverty version from the boss soul.

Candlestick is literally the worst weapon in the game. The broken straightsword is literally unironically a stronger weapon.

Deacon's soul pops for 20k souls because they knew damn well how trash the things you transpose from it are. Just eat it.
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>>149948378

That's really odd. It should logically increase the HP you make back, unless the way the spell works is that it gives a set amount of HP over a certain number of seconds... which would be a really odd way to work a regen spell.
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>>149949369
>>149949260
>>149949501
>candle stick sword is really bad
It hurts. I wanted to swag with my candle sword.
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>>149949583
Fromsoft realized how much people loved the blue flame in dark souls 2 for being a sword-catalyst that was good at both, so to ensure that never happened again, they made the candlestick.

I'm sure you can thank Miyazaki personally for that one. He must've thrown quite the tantrum in the office when somebody suggested that an idea from the-game-that-shall-not-be-named make a return.
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Kinda getting bored of this
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>>149949749

build?
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>>149949749
Pretty shit senpai. I was only testing it out and it's underwhelming
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>>149947576
>dead thread
there's a difference between a dead thread and an asleep thread you fool.
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>>149949732
>take one of the cool ideas from 2
>make it shit to spite the people who liked it from 2
I just got done farming the flaming stick that casts spells. It better not suck too.
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>>149949749

Eventually you'll run out of Pepsi Blue and Sunny D.

Don't give up, senpai. Treat this like a hidden game mode where your job is to see how long you can hold out versus an endless tide of shitty concord summons.
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>>149949940
>>149950071
I'll do my best~
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>>149949732

>it's an everything good returning from 2 is shit except for the Dragonslayer's Axe (and even then that's not too great) episode
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>>149949991
Stick is one of the best weapons in the game
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>>149947539
>Ds2 had shrug righty ho and max trolling gestures like nonono and decapitate
>Ds3 has 6 different bows and 8 different sitting positions
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>>149950219
Thats good news. Imma turn people into crispy critters
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>>149949991

It's not meta, but also not remotely shit. Halberd range and moveset, viable damage, ranged WA, and I believe it gives you extra-long flashsword swipes too.
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>>149950124
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>>149949991
>>149950357

>Immolation Tinder one of the few good dedicated INT-weapons (still more then FAI at least)
>requires 12 FAI to use
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>>149950456
Candlestick requires 12 fth as well.
Why?
I don't know.
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>>149950357

Soul Greatsword/Flashsword not only get a little extra range, but it kind of "masks" the shader too since the spell casts from somewhere in the middle of the tinder. So it's a harder for people to tell that you're winding up for a spellsword strike. Flashsword also *combos* with the fucking R1 and WA.

It's baller as fuck.
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>>149950540
I think its because they wanted it to suck dick and only be for spell buffs.

Also for stupid reaching lore reasons its used to read and memorize stories like fth guys do
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>>149950456
>>149950540

Just as quality is the only viable melee build, magical quality between int and fai is the only decent mage build.

Clearly if you're someone that just wants to dedicate themselves to one stat that you're a particular fan of; maybe you like the greatweapons of strength, or the lightning flashiness of faith; your opinion on what is fun is wrong.

Side note, anybody tried the Crystal Chime? I like the idea of having the ToB back.
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Smartass
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>>149950827

Crystal is weaker than the best catalysts for both types of magic, but not by too much. It's pretty handy to have both flashsword and sunlight spear on deck.
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so what stats should i run with caestus.

40str 40dx with high vig and sta
60str 60dex 30vig
or 40str 60 dex 50vig

im not sure if the two handing ar scaling for fist weapons is correct
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>>149950827
Crystal Chime is shit.
Well, mostly shit.
The fth scaling obviously doesn't affect sorcery damage (even though the listed spell buff will always reflect the combined scaling of both), so its damage with sorceries is very mediocre. Since sorcery is mostly only just barely viable with literally every damage bonus possible stacked, crystal chime just doesn't hit hard enough with sorceries to really fit onto a build.

And since it's a chime and not a talisman, it can't actually use any miracles without being interrupted. Interestingly, miracle casting is still bugged and takes both the int and fth scaling fully, so it's technically the highest potential damage faith casting tool in the game. It's a shame you'll never, ever hit anyone with a miracle without the ability to HA trade.

Interestingly, the Archdeacon's Greatstaff actually beats the court sorcerer staff at 60fth, making it the strongest sorcery casting tool, so there's a bit of a niche there for a high faith, moderate int hybrid caster.
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>>149951171
40/40 Refined.

Gouge Vigor and only use 20 Endurance at most, you shouldn't need that much stamina unless you like the L1 spam.

It might be a good idea to wear the lightest armor possible/nothing to use Flynn's Ring to the fullest, since Caestus is one of the few weapons that can reliably make use of Flynn's.
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>>149949219
Gee I sure liked when Beserk fought against Captain Falcon with his twin swords. It was my favorite part of the manga. Kojima is a fucking asshole
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>>149951501
You know that berserking is a common fantasy trope based on a title with actual historical precedent, right?
Not every person with some variant of berserk in their name is tugging their cock to obscure japanese comicbooks.
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>>149951351

Does the tiny AR from Flynn's even add up to anything worth more than a +2 ring of some sort?
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>>149950827
But that's wrong because of the 60 softcaps.
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>>149951642

Then whey didn't he call himself BERSERKER?

Checkmate, Mohammad.
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>>149951676

Well if you're going for pure Caestus, you have room for Ring of Favor +2 and Chloranthy +2 already, with 2 other ring slots for whatever you want. Flynn's is a good idea if you're going full light weight for a multi-hit weapon like the Caestus.
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I'm about to call it quits, getting fucking sleepy
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>>149951954
Leave the host a kind message. Something like 'Well Played…Friend. See you on the Fl1pside'
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>>149951954
Aaaand he waited there for nothing. Nabbed 16 forked tongues tonight. Every blue humiliated
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I'm bored and the Pope is giving me a hard time
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>>149949991
Here's a shitty quality webm that I made of me playing badly against other bad players with the Immolation Tinder in case you wanted a demonstration

aww(dot)moe/mvb9v1(dot)webm
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>tfw I don't have the will to run through the game again for the +2 rings

How do I motivate myself?
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>>149952989
You don't. Fuck DS3.
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imgur.com/a/ugXK8

AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>149952989

There's none really worth it past Cathedral, and you can dupe them once you have a single copy using backups.
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How do I beat a rapier with my claymore? They hit me before I get my fucking hyper armour, and roll away before I can punish them
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>>149953127
How embarrassing
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>>149953357
You don't understand anon, I don't want them, I need them for the platinum
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>>149953413
spam weaponart in a half hearted attempt to hyperarmor them to death, then die
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>>149950498
>[ThePruld]
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>>149953413

Bait for 2HR1/R2 trades basically, which means outspacing and outplaying them. I like the running R1 followed by an R1 tactic to bait them out as this gives you enough time to get HA frames if they roll and attack and guarantees a 2 hit combo if you hit with the basic R1. Charging up a 2HR2 at a few feet of distance when they are closing in is are about to attack is also good, your damage means you're going to win any trades so long as you roll right away as soon as your combo ends or you get the R2 since they can spam R1 right after to fuck you up.
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>>149953127
>Made a 4/10 Indian broad
>"I did it guys~ :)"
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Anybody want to go through DS1 or 2 with me? I had a fucking shit day at work and have the whole weekend off. Had some liquor and am bored.
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>>149953127
id hit it

with an astora greatsword
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>accidentally posted in a Harry Potter thread
shit

Can somebody check some fashion for me in DS1?

I just want to see what looks better with Channeler chestpiece, BK gauntlets and leggings:

Black Iron Helmet
or
Mask of the Sealer
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>>149954158
No, because you posted Umaru.
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>>149952989

Just make do with +1.

Same thing I did with slabs in DS1; I just made do with +9 instead of demanding every single weapon be +10. Saved me a lot of time and sanity.
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>>149954247
Is this better
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>>149954158
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING
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>>149953557
This is the first one I saw by them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DGe4RtPmWw
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>>149954247
I don't see Umaru anywhere all I see are qt Souls waifus.
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Greatsword UG's roll R1 should have been it's running R1
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>>149954420
wow dude

that's mean
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>>149954363
I want Doll to look down at me!
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>Kill the hosts phantoms
>He immediately turns into a little bitch
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>>149954657
>host turtles behind his shield all fight and is a passive shitter
>clearly is waiting for summons to arrive
>bring out the elemental weapon upon him and chip him to death
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man Darklurker is super easy as a sorcerer
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>>149954158
Both look pretty bad to me, but I guess the Black Iron Helm one is slightly more appealing
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>>149954789
Thank you. I'll go with the Black Iron Helm one.
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>>149954657
There is nothing more satisfying.
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What are the best DEX weapons in DS3?
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>>149954775
Even easier as a pyro
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How do I make an archer build viable?

i'm willing to use a melee weapon, I just want to focus on bows.
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>>149955287

Sharp Dagger, Chaos Blade and Sharp Great Club.
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>Get summoned as a phantom in Iron Keep
>Host has a summon already
>Immediately get shot off that one fucking bridge
>Never place my sign again
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That artorias fight took me like 40minutes. Probably the most intense one I've experienced so far. Headed to oolacile straight after I acquired the lordvessel. Will there be more fight like that in DaS1?
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Is there any point in weapon arts in PvE? I know it can stagger enemies who won't drop their shield, but it seems easier to just kick them. Anything else?
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>>149955676
Manus
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>>149955713
That reminds me, how is kicking a shield more effective at breaking someone's guard than swinging a greatsword full force into one?
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>>149955863
The Ashen one didn't skip leg day.
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>>149954420
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>>149955557
Just make a quality build, slap on Lloyd's Sword Ring, and only do rolling and running shots with the Composite Bow. Use whatever arrows you want, but Dark Arrows have a bit of tracking apparently.
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>>149951642
True, but he also kind of looks like guts and has the appropriate armour
>>149951784
Because most people are more familiar with the phrase "gone berserk"
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>>149956205
OK, thanks. Any good melee weapons that would fit that style?
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>>149956205
>Dark Arrows
Last time I used them, they had shit tracking. Am I just not using it right? Been trying to spam WA on composite and it's normal shot and most of them miss more often than normal arrows.
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>>149956312
Dagger and curved sword, offhand dagger for stunlock when they're really close and the other as a primary in melee
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>>149953906
At least we got the sword
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>>149956541
Thank you I'll try that out
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Why the fuck don't NPC invasions work in DaS 3? Do you really have to be online for NPC invasions?
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>>149956812
Are you embered?
I play offline and have had zero issues.
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>>149956312
You could play around with the idea that you're a dismounted horse archer and role play like that. I've actually been wanting to do something similar, but never make the effort to make a quality build. How about you take some inspiration from pic related as far as other equipment and fashion goes. Either way you're going to be the most annoying shit to deal with.
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Pissin our pants yet?
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>>149952865
sorry I was late watching this. Looks bretty fun
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stupid question:

when we see ghosts of other players, do they see us also for those few moments?
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>>149956886
I'm embered and heysel and kirk haven't worked. I've reloaded several times and gone to the bonfire and run back. This shit is annoying.
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>tfw in watchdogs of Farron
>tfw have been in some guys world for over 20 minutes with some other guy and we still haven't found the host
How can From fix this shit
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>>149957261

That invasion zone is HUGE. I've had invaders BC out on me quite a few times just because we couldn't find each other.
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>>149957261
He's probably laying under water
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>>149957113
Here's a condensed part two if you're interested
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I get outskilled in the last fight, but webm for retards cut the last 10 seconds off
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>>149957017
>20 str instead of investing in vit/end
Hahahano
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>>149957174
No
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>>149957435
>>149957445
The little cunt just hit me with a great bow and went back into hiding. Do these "people" enjoy having their time wasted?
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>best music
3
>best bosses
3
>best PVP
2
>best world
1

prove me wrong
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HAW
HAHA
HAW
HAW
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>>149957174
They should. I heard some dude in legion cosplay found another in legion cosplay and they both performed the etiquette. There might be some delay though
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>>149957860
lolno
>your argument = shattered
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>>149955557

Easy: spec quality, get Hawk Ring, acquire bows. If you want to main bows, it's totally viable and actually makes the game play somewhat differently. You don't need a sidesword, but having one is handy if you want.

I recommend Composite, Pharis' and Onislayer on one equip row. Composite is the best all-round utility bow, while Pharis' has triple shot for bosses and Onislayer has great range and damage without being too heavy.
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>>149957860
>>best music
BB

>>best bosses
DeS
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>>149957951
im right though
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>>149957864
>pivotstabbed and chainstabbed
These extreme fatroll builds only work if you have a couple copies of wog covering your ass. Not to mention the 70/18
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>>149958165
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>>149957972
thank you.
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>>149957974
>Bloodborne
>best music
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzA_Oomra8
You're fucking A- right bud
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>>149958427
Did she ever fight though?
>no dark hand
Soulsucker was from her soul or not?
Now make a yuria one with witch hat, gold hemmed rest, ghost blade and pyros
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>>149958589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3XXGmu-dw
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>>149957017
>>149957721

Seriously bro, just use whatever weapon you want with a lightning/chaos enchant at base stats and then pump your vit if you want to twink at SL20.
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>>149957261

You know, DS2 had a decent idea for this in that if you invested in faith you could use a spell that found invaders; that eye effect that pops up when blues invade.

A version of this spell that changed who it chases based on whether you're invading or getting blue summoned or are the host, with a minor stat investment, would be great for just this purpose.
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>>149958586

I enjoyed my archery run a lot because it reframed many encounters which were formerly trivial due to the absurd stagger onslaught that straight swords provide, and then trivialized encounters that were formerly challenging in melee. I don't have any firm examples, it was just my overall impression.

It was more challenging for sure, and at times felt monotonous, but it felt fresh in a way that just trying some new sword didn't.
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>>149958734

Why does everyone like this so much? It's just a shittier version of the Cleric Beast theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICSk8-pJkX8
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>>149958734
Even though it's not the hardest boss, I really like Moon Presence's theme, because it just sort of has the right everything to make me feel slightly panicked and on the edge of my seat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikWGbtXIBr4
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>MFW playing through PvE at 125 while fingered and in Way of the Blue but without summoning whites/golds

This is seriously fucking fun. If you haven't tried it, do it.

I might get to NG+7 for the first time doing this shit.
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At which NG+ level does DS3 become a boring slog?
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>>149959762
NG
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>>149959679
You're doing it the wrong way. Remove WoB and play with a phantom. Reds have a higher priority for phantomed worlds
>>149959762
NG+0
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Wheres the fucking DLC
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mods are asleep, post your fashion

and then rate other's fashion
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>>149959801
Which video was that?
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>>149959978
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>>149959978
How about we post some good ole fashioned CP instead?
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>>149959762
NG I can handle but I recently played through NG+ on my way to the end of NG++ for rings for a build and I hated every second of it. I didn't even want to go to ++. Granted, I was SL70 using a +8 raw weapon but I still don't think it'd be much fun.
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>>149959978
Head color scheme doesn't fit
>no pauldrons
Looks good
Head doesn't match the metal parts
Shit
Shit
Ok
Ok
Bretty gud
Now stop spamming it every thread
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>>149959847

I wouldn't really like to do that, I'm getting plenty of invaders with no phantom and I prefer needing to hold out while I wait for support over having a buddy already there. That way the order is me->red->blue->second red->second blue (the first has usually gone home by then)->etc etc. I often get repeat reds too, which is fun.

Besides, how else are these blues going to get summons? Ganking at Pontiff's?
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fashion is for faggots and little girls
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>>149960540
You wouldn't know fashion anyways, blind cuck
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>>149960540
you got the stones to back them words up, cupcake?
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>>149960752
yeah i think
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>Kill Dancer early
>Kill three Lords of Cinder
>Get teleported to the Dancer's room by fucking nobody after listening to dialogue from someone I already killed
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soooooo

what's the dlc gonna be

will we get gwyndolin's crown again
>>
can someone give me tips to get the hidden weapon on DS2 farm kills both offline and online?

whats the best method?
>>
Thanks to everyone who contributed to the list in the OP of character sliders.
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>>149960981
GOOOD JAAB, FROM, GOOOD JAAB
*CLAPS*
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>>149961231
We'll get Gwyndolin's boipussy
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>>149961231
SUNLIGHT MAGGOT
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>>149961231
Fleshed out Drangleic Castle but everything's fucked by the Chaos and more cool tulpa action with Aldia.
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>>149961249
Hidden Weapon as in the spell, or
hidden weapons as in drops from enemies?
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>>149961554
the hidden weapon spell from the bell covenant
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>What do you want, truly?
>Light, dark, or something else entirely?
What did he mean by this?
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>>149961612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT8teRZUW7s
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>>149961665
deep sea

aldrich is the bearer of the curse
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>>149961736
>aldrich is the bearer of the curse
I fucking knew it
>>
>Play Souls games
>Never spooked ever, never ever
>Doing a champion covenant run in DS2
>Get to Grave of Saints
>HUE HUE HUE HUE HUEGH

My fucking heart crawled into my throat. Haven't felt that in a long ass time.
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>>149961727
Read up on the wiki, but there's this thing with task manager that lets you know whether or not he invades faster.
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>>149961794
And then it turns out it was just that one zombie by the sconce on the floor above

That fucker got me too
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>>149961794
?
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>>149952989
By now you should have been able to afford 600 of every item in the game if your extra souls weren't going towards levels.

Look up where on the map they are, be stamina-grassed 24/7 and just sprint through the game doing a boss-rush of sorts.
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>>149961879
do tell?
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>>149961936
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>>149962050
It was correctly orientated on my little thumbnail preview. I guess it auto-rotated the picture since it was a Snapchat-turned-saved-picture.
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What's your favourite part of the Lore?
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>>149961936
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>>149962116
>>
havent played ds3 in a few months, what is this lance-spear everyone is using now and what is the counter
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>>149962116
Probably a lame answer. But the entire build-up up until you fight Gwyn at the Kiln is pretty cool.
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>>149962402
>and what is the counter
N O T H I N G

It's totally unbeatable R1 mashing meta cancer!

Fucking From, nerf when?
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>>149962116

the fact that Hollowing works IRL too
if you don't have willpower you'll ragequit the game and your character will ensentially become Hollow
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>>149962318
>aunt

It would be uncle, Gwyndolin is a trap, not a disgusting trans
>>
When does Greirat return from Lothric Castle?
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>>149962116

The whole plot of DeS, probably.
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>>149962318
Do feminists just not know traps and effeminete men are things?
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>>149962892
NG+
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>>149962892
Soon
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>>149962892
>Sending Greirat to die

YOU IGNORANT FUCKING SLAVE
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>>149962918

Populist gender politics are such a mess that there's like fifteen different terms from fifteen different stances on the same damn phenomena.
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>>149963086
Wait what?!
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>>149953906
Was Licia really that hard? The biggest threat she posed when I invaded her was her constant heal spamming that threatened to break my weapon before I could kill her.
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>>149962892

Anon...
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>>149963427
How the fuck do I save him?!
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>>149952989
creative engine, or be an autist like me and spent 70 hours waiting for summons instead of grinding enemies like the smarter person would
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>>149962116
DS1: Everything involving Nito, especially whatever cult he managed to attract to himself. I especially love that area just before his boss room that has those skeletons prostrating themselves towards him. I'm still debating whether or not those were just reanimated skeletons that arranged themselves there, or if they're the remains of the aforementioned cult that he had. Also the whole occult rebellion aspect of the story is also really cool to me.

DS2: Not really much to go on here, but I feel as if there was a lot more shit going on at the Lost Bastille that was never mentioned. You can find a statue of pic related in one of the areas here as well as the cleric starting set with some other cleric stuff in the area, leading me to think it was once a place of worship to some deity. But of course, there is almost nothing related to the joint in item descriptions other than it was just a prison.

DS3: The Cathedral of the Deep. No, not the Deep itself (which I feel was just shoehorned into the game because Miyazaki has a hard on for eldritch stuff now, and couldn't bear to keep it in Bloodborne), just the cathedral. I think its really interesting that it was once a Way of White cathedral. I personally think it was specifically a place to worship Caitha as evidenced by the crying statues that you can find in scattered about the cathedral (a flimsy claim, I know. It could easily just be a place to worship Gwynevere or some other god/gods), and the fact that several of them are covered up just adds on to the dire shit that went down there.
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>>149962116

I like the existential underpinnings and the conflict between hope and despair, especially in Dark Souls 1.
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>>149963181
L M A O
M
A
O
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>>149963579
he's dead isn't he
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>>149963671
Nah, he's waiting for you at the Grand Archives where you'll be able to get the items he pillaged. You have to help him escape because he got trapped inside.
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>its an every invasion is a sorcery/onikiri and udachi stunlock-fest

welp, and yes I know-
>invading

"duels" are just washing poles and carthus curved swords
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>>149963496

You can only save him from Lothric in NG+, because Patches owes him 1 favor but offers to go find him twice.

You need to bring the Catarina armor from NG into NG+. When you send Greirat to Irithyll, do not buy the Catarina armor from Patches or tell Patches where Greirat went, and instead give Siegward the armor you got in NG. He will rescue Greirat from Irithyll. When you send Greirat to Lothric Castle, then tell Patches where he went and Patches will go rescue him because he owes Greirat a favor still.
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>>149962116
I like the feelings of adventure and making great friends with the few kind people still left, and then the crushing moment when they've gone hollow, slowly making you feel more and more depressed and isolated as the people you care about are put down by your hand
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>>149963804
Oh damn.
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>>149963804
Bullshit
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>>149963804
sweet i'll try that

thanks
>>
Are you versed in dark should etiquette?
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>>149964103

Oh, make sure you don't buy that Catarina set from Patches until Greirat's back from his last trip.
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>>149962116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DGe4RtPmWw
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>>149964245
Always have a Dark hand ready so you can ruthlessly punish honorfaggotry.
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>>149964271
is that the most cringy comment section of all time?
>>
I have a Japanese copy of the game so I can't read item descriptions, and I don't watch lore vids. Who's the obligatory "old warrior fallen from grace" who will be a DLC boss a la Artorias/Raime/Ludwig of Dark Souls 3?
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>>149964554
ludleth will be the final both of the dlc (the lord of cinder who still sits on his throne in firelink shrine

"[...] i will die a colossus"
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>>149964818
too bad he got roasted as a bald manlet cuck lmao
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>>149965026
He was speaking figuratively.
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>>149965026
There is nothing wrong with balding, it's genetics you cannot control. Same with height. Also, if two consenting adults both agree to an open relationship then so be it. Grow up.
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>>149965278
kekd
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>weapon is called bastard sword
>it's not a bastard
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The Final Boss for the Final DLC for DS3 is YOUR Brave Undead, if you have save from Scholar of the First Sin with all Crowns.

How fucked are you?
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>>149965501
oh fug
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>>149965501
I win automatically because I never bought that game
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>>149965501
>Brave Undead
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>>149965501

No matter which save it picked I'd be good considering how much slower DS2 characters are.
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>>149965501
>gr8sword lugging dumb chick
lame
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>>149965501
Just my max sl char...nothing horrible
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>>149965665
>chick
Uhh
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>>149965501
>light armor bonghammer

Oh shit yes.
I'm pretty confident I could beat me, then I'd use my own soul to forge a weapon, and there's nothing more metal than that.
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>>149963769
What SL are you at? I recently made a SL70 invasion build and instead of sorcery/onikiri you get pyromancy/washing pike. Kind of refreshing, really.
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>>149964554
Nameless King.
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>>149965501

not bad
>>
>you will ever get giants set in 3
>you will never get channelers armor in 3
>instead, you have 6 generic knight armor and 8 of the same shitty robes
Fuck miyazaki
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>>149966998
The Giant's set looks silly on a human.
>>
Nice dead general
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>>149966223
But we already fought him.
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>>149965501
>powerstanced lance with axe/sword on a 50 faith build
since lance and poise are shit, I'm ok
>>
Any fashion that goes with the old wolf curved sword if I'm doing a berserker build that transforms into a dragon mid invasion?
>>
this general needs to be buried
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Revisiting areas last night to collect rings and spells i missed before i start ng+. Had 5 successful concord summons during the process, through a span of 2 hours. Was pretty cool, i didnt think hunting down items was going to be this rewarding
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hehe

dumbo
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>>149967094
>Not wanting to be GiantMoM

I'm glad Giantdad became the memetic representation of Giant's + Family Mask min-max, because I actually think GiantMoM looks great, in that "creepy, but just a little bit goofy" way that fits Dark Souls's aesthetic really well.

>Massive, intimidating frame, but made of a garish golden plate
>That mournful yet merciless expression that looks somewhat like a frowning sloth

I don't actually have a picture of GiantMoM, so have a picture of me doing my best Enisle impersonation instead.
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Jesus woman how much health do you have
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Leonhards set is literally the most fashionable set in the souls series.

Comfy.

Good color scheme

good with and without the edgy mask

literally best only if used as a whole 3 piece set, any mixing with non-helm items actual make it worse


why arent you using Leonhards set anon?
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>>149968869
About 4434.
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>>149969070
Thats actually only the yellow part, i think she has around 6K?

Fire cheese best cheese though
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>>149969019
>implying pharis hat isn't good on leonhard's set
>implying Leonhard's set is THE most fashionable in a game with a proper Knight Set or DaS1 Elite Knight Set
Right cunt you are
>>
So I never played SotFS

Did they fix the thing with Lances where they were listed as having 160 counter, but only did 128 counter? Because I really liked Lances and that 128 counter thing pissed me off.
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>>149948153
Gwyndolin a cute. CUTE!
>>
So...would the Nameless KIng actually have been called Gwynfarram?
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>>149969461
no
>>
>>149969461
Gwynsen
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>>149969461
yes
>>
Cozy music to listen to while playing Dank Souls? Nothing hype or crazy.
>>
>>149965501
Nah, final boss better be a Dark Soul itself and played like Mother fight in La-Mulana.
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>>149969701
Stuff you like
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>>149969718
I'm looking for reccomendations, is the purpose of my post. Looking for stuff 'other' than just what I like.
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>>149969461
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>>149969796
Skrillex is super dope. Definitely recommend him.
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>>149968114
Oh yeah, I missed the bit about the DLC. I don't know if we have any major characters like that left.
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>>149969701
whats cozy for you?
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>>149969806
My god this makes me laugh...my sense of humour is shite.
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>>149968865
Sorry, I thought the Giant's Set that was cut from DS3, the one that looks like Yhorm's set.
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>>149969248
The 128 counter thing was a fix of the 160 counter.
I think some attacks still get the 160 counter bonus as jumping attacks hit for over 800 damage, but I might be wrong.
>>
Reminder tattoos and marks exist in this game's character customization.
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>>149970596
>The 128 counter thing was a fix of the 160 counter.

Was it, really? It was still listed as 160 on the weapon.
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>>149965501
>recovery cancelling poison resin yorghs spear turtle
uh oh
People complain about how slow DaS2 was, but it's as fast as a Souls title needs to be. Look at DaS3 to see how catastrophically wrong highspeed can go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WScMl8AIbOk
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>tfw invading
>tfw invading in full exile's with a stone Parma
>tfw not even feel bad about fucking people because I know I could destroy a shitter like myself
>>
>>149971042
damhtlm is such an amazing soulstuber :D
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>>149971002
Yeah the stats always lie because of hidden modifiers.
It's nothing new.
160 counter was too OP.
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>>149971290
>Lance gets the 160 counter nerf (or was it never 160?)
>Chaos blades goes from 130 (i believe) to 160

Nice job fromsoft
>>
for low level SL20 action, should I upgrade my weapons to +2 or can I go up to +3?
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>>149971665
yes
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>>149971739
don't play with me man this isn't a fucking game I swear to me mum
>>
I made a Transformer. Behold, Fetustron.
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>>149971665
Really no reason not to go +3 unless you want to play with people who literally just started. You get your second guaranteed Titanite Shard at the Tower on the Wall bonfire, in case you haven't already scavenged one from the High Wall enemies, all of which drop Titanite Shards.
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>>149971595
It may have been below 150 in patches prior to 1.09, but 1.09 to 1.10 (patch that added Aldia) was 150 to 160.
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>>149971964
looks like an autistic Robo-cop.
>>
What soul level should I stop at to fight the maximum range of people? 115?
>>
>>149971595
Well Chaos Blades real counter is 155..
Lances are still much better weapons than katanas though, the range, speed and ability to turtle males them secretly meta.
>>
>>149972427

Middle school math too difficult for you?
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>>149972470
Haven't played DS2 in ages so idrk if anything changed, is longsword and offhand estoc + dancing still the meta?
>>
Would there be an anon so kind to help me with Fume Knight on NG+2?
Platform PC, SM 9M
pls respond
>>
>>149972841
Forgot to mention this is Vanilla DS2
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>>149972581
The balance got so good that you can use pretty much anything and yes spacing is still a thing.
>>
>>149973021
Oh well, so I guess I'd still use my Curved Nil if I ever decided to come back to DS2. It's not that I used many weapons anyways, it was either big weapons or the Falchion
>>
>>149969806
I thought priscilla was gwnyever and seath's child?
>>
Do you lads reckon all the sitting dragon-fags in archdragon peak are alive
>>
>>149973021
This is a complete fucking bullshit and you know it.
>>
How did gwynevere come to be?
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I'm trying to beaet Nameless King and my main weapon is lightning infused and obviously does no damage during phase 2

I was thinking of switching to a +8 War Pick for phase 2 and I can't decide whether Raw or Fire infusion is better

Is 169 physical/169 fire (388) or 255 physical better damage?
>>
>>149973815
>Lightning infused
Faith character i presume?
Get the Astora Straight Sword and infuse that with raw
Get Dark Blade buff if you can
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>>149973894
Yes, 55 faith
I also have dark blade
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>>149973734
not him but i'd say ds2 has the most weapon viability in the series, and winning with a shit tier weapon is much easier compared to ds3 or 1 imo
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>>149973681
They transcended to the higher plane and reached the enlightenment.
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>>149973943
DS2 has by far the most narrow selection of top tier weapons and way larger distance in terms of viability between good and mediocre/bad weapons. In DS1 low-tier garbage was at least fun to use on lower levels, in DS2 low-tier garbage stays low-tier garbage at any SM, especially given that both estoc and longsword can be acquired immediately and absolutely overpower anything else you might face.
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>>149973949
where is this from
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>>149973943
>>149974109

Subjective, but :
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>what's that, people are playing the game as intended?
>better activate my victim complex and CE table :^)
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>>149974441
>chink
what did u expect
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So, the heavier a weapon is, the more stamina it consumes, right?
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>>149974376
This chart is too generous for ultra weapons and ESPECIALLY reapers.
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>>149974109
i suppose, but i had a relatively easy time winning with everything from top to mid tier in ds2, while in ds1 mid tier already starts becoming useless trash
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>>149974376
>someone thought that ivory straight sword was a good idea
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>>149973943
Man, I miss the boar event. That was fun.
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>>149974680
That's because typical skill level of DS2 players is lower than in DS1. If DS2 crowd was playing in DS1 you would facefuck 80% of them even with DS1's ultra weapons.
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>>149974579
Not really, big weapons are very good in DS2.
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>>149974808
During the entire lifespan of DS2 ultra weapons were considered extremely shitty against any actually good weapons. The entire "DS2 ultra weapons were good" is a result of nothing but nostalgia coupled with getting lucky against a skilless r1 mashing retard or two. Ultra weapons were never good, not even in DeS where they were at their highest, i honestly think From should just stop making them whatsoever and focus on balancing fast and medium ones.
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Twinkling titanite upgrades count as +2, is that true?
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>>149975147
Yes
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>>149975181
fuck this gay ass matchmaking shit

What SL is one usually at with a +8 weapon and where do people at this level/upgrade range tend to be?
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>>149975052
>I honestly think From should stop making them altogether
And have even less variety than we have now? Pls no, at least you can use ultra weapons for PvE if they're shitty for everything else.
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>some anons actually think DaS2 has less viable weapons than the other DaS games

I have to stop falling for this kind of shitty b8
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>>149975367
Ultra weapons are kinda shitty even when it comes to pve to be honest. They are just sub-optimal and flawed at their core. I would rather prefer more medium/fast weapon classes. Like fucking flails, urumi, chakrams and other exotic shit.
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>>149964554
The only ones that might be left at this point are Ciaran and maybe Gough.
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>>149964554
Bishop Havel.
Make him a Ludwig of the souls series and give him some divine STR weapon.
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>>149975785
I want big manly ultras. Flails would be nice but From won't put them in Souls.
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>>149948757
If your SM works with it and many you could fight are in Dranglric Castle, sure. Problem with the golden border around the picture in the teleport is always that they all might already go to watcher and defender.
You should totally try doing this with Acid Surge, Spider Fang (to slow the enemy down for acid) and Great Heal. Fun times and much hatemail from this ~
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Why does Perserverence last such a short time?
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>>149976075
Weapon really doesn't need to be immensely huge and slow as shit to be manly.
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>>149975052
>Ultra weapons were never good, not even in DeS where they were at their highest

They weren't the best weapons in the game, but they were fine. They were viable mid-tiers against actually good players, rather than being scrubcrushers that fell off completely at higher skill levels.

I didn't play DkS2 PvP much, but it's hard to imagine DkS2 ultras being as bad as DkS ultra weapons. They seem mediocre, but not like they'll get reaction roll BS'd every time they guessed wrong while going for a trade. Or get assblasted by buffered toggle escape into a backstab when they actually do guess right.
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>>149976245
You are meant to cast it when you are about to be hit by an attack so you can tank it and counter. It also makes smaller weapons bounce off you so it's basically a shittier, easier parry
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>>149976261
>I didn't play DkS2 PvP much, but it's hard to imagine DkS2 ultras being as bad as DkS ultra weapons
DS2 ultras don't even have a precise manual aiming of DS1 on top of being equally slow if not slower and lack of deadangling. And that's in a game with blindingly fast WD attacks.
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I need a little assistance with Eldritch. Meet me near the bonfire in front of the cathedral if interested
Password is: cockatoo
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>>149976456
>equally slow if not slower
That's just plain wrong though, compare a zweihander 2hr1 from both games, it's massively faster in ds2. Also, ultras were probably the most freely-aimable weapons in the game
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>>149976510
i'm on ps4 btw
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>>149976510
Mandatory "Let me boot up [insert obscure device]"

Platform though?
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>>149976649
ps4
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>>149976456
>equally slow
>don't have precise manual aiming

Are we playing the same game?
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>>149976258
I can't believe so many people think Boomhammer is shit.

I mean it's not great, but everybody assumes it's the pits because it's thematically similar to Tonitrus.

Its R1s have as much range as a tricked Saw Spear, and its moveset is solid for how much damage it can deal with blunt gems.
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>>149975052
Ultra weapon were fantastic complementary weapons. Same for pole weapons with their sweetspots.
I don't blame you for not grasping the concept of dual wielding, seeing how all Miyazaki games failed to properly implement such basic thing.
But goddamn git gud, dastard.
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>>149976718
Sorry m8, cant help you then
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There are people who think Manus is the Furtive Pygmy...those people are fucking idiots, the Furtive Pygmy is clearly Patches.

I say this for the simple reason that while Manus appears in DS1 and gets utterly bumfucked by the Chosen Undead, Patches appears in all three games....and he's also called Unbreakable, so there's that .
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>>149976601
>compare a zweihander 2hr1 from both games
I actually did and they are either equal or have insignificant speed difference. You're confusing animation and actual speed of the attack.
>ultras were probably the most freely-aimable weapons in the game
That doesn't really stands for much given how restricted the manual aiming in DS2 in general on top of deadzone problems.
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>>149976794
Boomhammer is an excellent weapon with fully blunt moveset which means you can get an impressive damage per hit from that baby with 32% gems on top of being able to give every attack a lingering moveset. BB's STR weapons are probably the most fun in the entire series in general and if you count arcane wheel as a STR weapon they go straight into the top tier meta territory.
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>backpedalling without attack with havelshield, bloodring and 30% roll
>you can't even bleed him because he is not reatard
Somebody reanimate BB online please. I can't take it anymore.
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>>149976258
>>149976794
>>149977089
These guys get it. I'm not even using top tier gems and it packs a solid punch and is deceptively fast to boot. The charged R2 has a pretty big hitbox as well, it's pretty easy to land in PVP.
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Requesting the drakekeeper comic
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>>149977269
BB's online is still alive and well for random invasions. Not sure about "competitive" garbage as i was never interested in that shit to begin with.
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>>149977269
>backpedalling without attack with havelshield, bloodring and 30% roll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbfkAqd6MAk&t=1m14s
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>>149977472
I think that fully charged r2 with fired up boom hammer and top gems can 1hko any invader or white phantom immediately. Plus it feels like that attack lingers for half a second getting you even if you're trying to i-frame through it. That's how you fucking do STR weapons.
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Any Souls boss you guys know is easy as fuck but you just suck absolute cock at doing? Dragon God is by far my worst enemy.
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>>149977269
Can't believe how good these animations are compared to DaS3.
He constant snapping and missing diagonal movement animations give me Morrowind flashbacks. Even DaS2 is better than that shit.
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>>149977895
>Even DaS2 is better than that shit.
look i'm part of the ds2 defense force but you know that's bullshit
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>>149977895
>Even DaS2 is better than that shit.
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>>149977895
(You)
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>SotFS
>iron keep

Holy shit did the devs just have no idea what made Dark Souls fun? I beat the smelter demon on the second attempt and that was the only shred of fun I've had, this is just ridiculously tedious,

Does it get worse? Should I just quit and play Dark Souls III?
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Why does the tripfag Lucifer keep posting the same webms each thread?
Is she autistic?
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>>149977601
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>>149977784
People want Abysswatchers to be harder, but that is the only boss in 3 I tend to have difficulties with.
> Only one affects the whole HP-bar, not all of them like the Four Kings.
> That dagger is annoying as fuck because every fart into my general direction staggers me.
> Red Abysswatcher either goes for me with both as backup, dies quickly because both focus on him or does fuck-all.
On a melee-build, these guys are ok and disposed of rather quickly. But boy, sorcery and miracles are so shit against them. Why give them a roll? My shit misses anyway when they slowly walk to the left and my cast-times are shit.
Second Phase is good tho, kinda like the Nameless King. Just give that shit 200% HP instead of a first phase and I'd have more fun.


Am I the only one who also doesn't care that much about the lore of these guys?
They're just some autistic, edgy kids playing Artorias-Fanclub.
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>>149978116
>>149978217
Just because it shares animations with DaS1, doesn't mean it's all fine. Removing recovery from attacks hat are meant to be weighty completely destroyes the illusion. Not to mention all the t-posing that happens in pvp. You can't seriously defend that.
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>>149978412
Shrine of Amana can be bad.
Iron Keep isn't that bad, let them come one at a time and it's manageable. NG+ makes this a hellhole though.
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>>149978429
Thanks
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>>149978489
>They're just some autistic, edgy kids playing Artorias-Fanclub.
Lore suggests that they were a huge and powerful organization despite their edginess. To the point people were shitting their pants if they ever saw one in their city as it was an omen of total annihilation.
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>>149978538
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So how come the Abyss Watchers fight each other? Did some of them get Abyss Corrupted?
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>>149978538
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>>149978743
Lords of Cinders generally lose their sanity for some reason. Some of the Abyss Watchers and Aldritch are the only exceptions.
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So we can all agree that dex+faith is the best build in every Souls game, right?
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>>149978604

I am taking them one at a time, that's the issue really. I've died a few times but mostly I'm just bored. Why did they think so many enemies was a good idea?
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>>149979218
Of course not.
Quality is the most powerful in every single game with the exception of DS2 where it's better to go with base stats + elemental infusion.
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>>149978704
>even glitched it looks better than DaS3
what a joke
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>>149977895
>Even DaS2 is better than that shit.
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>>149979218
if you only count ds1, yes
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>>149979384
>it looks better than DaS3
(You)
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>>149979429
Yeah in terms of animations
BB>DaS1>DaS2>DaS3>DeS
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>>149979521
>people still get salty for calling out the bullshit in DaS3
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>>14997953
(You)
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>>149979384
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>>149979615
(You)
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>make risky jump to get treasure
>yfw it's Flame Butterfly/Amber Herb/Simpleton's Spice
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Reminder that Scholar of the First Sin is actually a good game and had amazing Lore that Miyazaki just ignored.
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>>149979354
Actually it was 40/40 Ring of Blades + Flynn's Ring +Sacred Oath.

At that point it didn't matter what you used, you'd blow people up.

I distinctly remember doing more damage with that setup and a longsword than ultra weapons. It was heinously stupid.

>>149979535
>BB>DaS1>DaS2>DaS3>DeS

But Dark Souls 3 animations are, for the most part, re-purposed Dark Souls 1 animations.
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>>149979871
>amazing Lore
Such as?
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>>149979925
Hohoh... at least you know your name.
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>>149979878
>Actually it was 40/40 Ring of Blades + Flynn's Ring +Sacred Oath.
Your info is severely outdated. Difference between base stats CB and 40 dex CB is 40 AR. Dark infusion with base stats gives way more stat-efficient damage output given that SOTFS capped elemental damage mitigation at 75% AT MOST. Nowadays the only thing you will see on arena is dark infused wapred swords and other WD-happy shit.

Jesus fuck DS2's scaling system is a goddamn disgrace.
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>>149979871
>Miyazaki just ignored.
What? The scholar stuff didn't need any more fanservice, and we already had fanservice of most of the good aspects of DS2 lore.
The whole DS2 lore thing was a mess, the only good thing to come out of it was the conclusion to the story and the lore behind the crowns.
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>>149979925

the DLC Crowns
the Brume Tower and Ivory King Lore were really good
also the Eleum Loice was pretty cool besides that barrren plains to get to the Twin Black Cats
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>>149980052
>conclusion to the story and the lore behind the crowns.

Which Miazaky ignored, where is the Player Character that never Hollows?
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>>149979878
>for the most part, re-purposed Dark Souls 1 animations
they fucked them up
see >>149979384
Cutting off recovery and not matching the movement makes the game feel very floaty.
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>>149978412
>Does it get worse?
Drangleic Castle is fun.
DLCs are fun.
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>>149978743
>So how come the Abyss Watchers fight each other?
They're clearly sparring with each other.
They're eternally rising and fighting each other and the mad Abyss Watcher is there to possibly make it so that the event is much more sporting than all of them just ganging up on you.
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>>149980359
What is that picture showcasing?
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>>149978743
Imagine if From did the Abyss Watchers the same way as Ivory King.
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>>149980194
>where is the Player Character that never Hollows?
Dunno, maybe they fucked off? There's a reason why the games don't really directly reference a specific Chosen Undead or BoTC main characters.
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The Dragon Bone Smasher will be in the DLC this time around, r-right?
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>get ganked
>host points down, phantom does "honorabu legion etikette"
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>>149981138
Probably some pre-release screenshots of Dark Souls 2. The game's ugly as sin when it's not in motion though. I mean, you can get tolerable screenshots sure, but the best thing about DaS2 graphically is how it looks when you're going through an area with a torch and you can see things cast shadows and shit.

Which is funny, I mean, the Souls games can look beautiful when the art direction is good "See : Demon's Souls / Dark Souls" but technically they're really lagging behind and only imo caught up to the speed around Bloodborne / DS3.
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>>149981568
why would you use such a ridiculously ugly weapon
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>roll
>roll
>rolling L1
>roll
>roll
>backstab parry attempt
my oh my.
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>>149981658
I like the way it looks! And the moveset is cool!
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>>149981750
why would you use such a ridiculously ugly weapon
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>>149981568
>The Dragon Bone Smasher will be in the DLC this time around, r-right?
Removed from the context of the original game it would be completely out of place and people would bash From for "muh pandering".

Honestly? I was very much against adding shit just for the sake of pandering before I bought DS3 and I definitely understand why people are upset about the shallow pandering, but I also understand how people were actively wanting shit like that from Demon's Souls, especially the Maiden in Black and Storm Ruler / DBS, so I can understand why From put those kinds of things into the games, to please the players. So I think they imo shouldn't put things like that straight into the game if it's just pandering without context (at least the Yhormruler has a new, Dark Souls context) but I also don't get hatred towards From software if they do.
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>>149981275

there's no reason at all
in DS2 the Chosen Undead was irrelevant since he either Link the Fire or eventually turned Hollow like Vendric
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>>149982142
SOTFS character could never hollow if he finished the quest
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>>149946974
Is there a single track that surpasses the Burnt Ivory King's theme? It just exudes power.

https://youtu.be/Ckdcc2aR0jI
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>>149982496
check my mixtape and you'll see. Crispy Noir King - Stayin' Toasty
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>>149981658

>he wants the Dragon Bone Smasher back
>not Istarelle
>not Blind
>not Blueblood Sword
>not Penetrating Sword
>not Rune Sword

Overrated as fuck.
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>>149982142
>in DS2 the Chosen Undead
I'm going to be autistic here and correct you that Chosen Undead was a Dark Souls 1 only thing since the "Chosen Undead" prophecy only applied for Lordran.

Bearer of the Curse isn't really directed, he more or less just wanders into the place without knowing why, but carrying the curse.


>there's no reason at all
The reason for the games to not reference the exploits of any specific player character after the game they appeared in is because at the same time none of them are canon because different players did different things and at the same time they ARE canon in Soul of Cinder.

I.E the reason no single player character ends up being significant because it'd basically be telling the players of all the three games "hey, this character wasn't really YOUR character, sorry!", which would be understandable, but I prefer if neither BoTC or CU have a tangible "stand-in" in the games.

This means your naked Shrek ogre CU is as "canon" as my Elite Knight longsword Crest Shield CU.
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>>149982675
You know I actually searched that and now all I feel is disappointment in you anon. For shame.
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Quick, what's a STR/FAI name?
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>>149982968
Faistr
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>>149982968
Any paladin name
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>>149982968
muscle pope
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>>149982818

>not Istarelle
It's also a king's field reference so it might work. Wasn't it in Dark Souls 2 as well?
>not Blueblood Sword
Maybe
>not Penetrating Sword
Godyes
>not Rune Sword
Ugly
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>>149981658
Some people actually use the ugly thing that is fume, I wouldn't put it past them.
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>>149982968
Escanor.
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>>149982968
Holy knight _____
Paladin ______
Faithful ______
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>>149982968
Holy Moly!
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>>149982968
Knigger Lover
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>>149983407
*KNIGGER Lover
Gotta bypass the censor
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>>149982968
Guts
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>>149982968
Garl.
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>>149974157
The only manga ever to feature a zombie imageboard.
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>>149983659
Tell me more anon. With zombies shitposting if possible.
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why so many off hand cestus?
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>>149983887
for ebig zero frame parries and extreme l1 combos
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>>149983842
Just google and read it, anon. One of the funniest rides possible and it will probably end soon.
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>>149982968
STRaight up SenFAI
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So, sitting on the porcelain throne, strategizing how I'm gonna perfect DaS3 only got to get the grape phantom pyromancy, some rando pyromancy found in the archives, a single geature, and the rings and I should be gravy and I think I know what the DLC will add:
The place where the winged knights come from, probably going to get some new magic relating to the angels, as well as possibly see good ol' tits mgee. I bet she'll be wrinkly as fuck though
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Should I feel bad about parry-spamming when I gank?
I mean, if I try to kill them by conventional means, they roll around and hide behind phantoms to chug, the fact that they have double the Estus essentially puts me in a much worse spot.

I really feel like a scrub, but parry-spamming/1HKOs are pretty much the only way to win when ganking.
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>>149983887
Lightest parry tool that can also be infused with fp or hp regen.
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does anyone know if the astora sword equip spam to get health has been fixed?
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>>149984294
dont you mean anri's? either case idk
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>>149984146
Anything goes in invasions anon. You'd have to be an insecure retard to think otherwise.
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>>149974376
CBS looks so hilarious. It's like a fucking popsicle.
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In any of the Souls games have you completed a quest without looking up how?
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>>149985175
Lautrec if that counts
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>>149985175
I completed everything in DS3 except finding Yorshka, Moundmakers and Sirris' questline on my first go.
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>>149985175
Most of the DS2 ones
They are generally "Keep person alive during X fights"
I accidentally stumbled through Lord of Hollows on my first playthrough in DS3, had the luck that i suck so much that i died enough for the hollowing to build
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>>149982968
>Quick, what's a STR/FAI name?
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>>149985483
Jerry
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>>149982142
Cursed One did neither. He had the crowns so he couldn't go Hollow; if he travelled to Lordran to link the fire, he'd be a Lord or part of Cinder in DS3.

>>149982873
>This means your naked Shrek ogre CU is as "canon" as my Elite Knight longsword Crest Shield CU.
Oddly enough, the Soul of Cinder/Firelink set is a modified version of the Elite Knight set.
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>>149982968
Donald
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I finally fixed my PC after being stuck with a dying power supply for a couple of months and so I'm finally able to play DS3.
Pirated the game and got to firelink shrine before quitting.

Now my question is: Is the game still worth buying on PC right now?
Is the multiplayer still booming?
Is there some kind of ultimate super tournament fighter edition extreme coming out soon, ala scholars of the first sin, that I would be better off waiting for?
This is the first time I wasn't able to play a Souls game on release, and god damn does it suck being late to the party for once.

Also, back when the game first came out I saw a lot of people talking about that one giant crystal lizard dude. People had trouble with that guy? All I did was strafe circles around him and hit his ass.
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>>149985175
I completed every single one in DaS2. The quests in DaS1 are pretty stupid. How was I supposed to know I could hit Siegmeyer while fighting the things at Lost Izalith and I only found him by pure chance? How was I supposed to know that being a Chaos Servant +2 opens a fucking shortcut and I can kill a maggot to make Solaire not go insane? Why do I have to buy all miracles from Rhea so she isn't killed or whatever? They were more convoluted than time itself.
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>>149985483
Iungeddit
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>>149985759
>still worth buying

_no
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>>149985759
>Is the game still worth buying on PC right now?
the pve is fun enough for a few playthroughs but
>Is the multiplayer still booming?
no, the pvp is fucking garbage and a shitload of players are ditching the game
>Is there some kind of ultimate super tournament fighter edition extreme coming out soon, ala scholars of the first sin, that I would be better off waiting for?
Possibly? One DLC is coming out this autumn, another DLC later. Prepare to buy again edition isn't out of the question
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>summoning phantom
>unable to summon phantom
>summoning phantom
>unable to summon phantom
>summoning phantom
>unable to summon phantom
what the fuck man, i just want to do coop
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>TFW people still haven't pieced together the scenario regarding Astraea because of how fucking horrible and dark and grotesque it is.
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>>149986068
I stopped caring about PvP after Demon's and Dark1. Got my fill of it.
What I enjoy doing most is making whacky builds and finding random people to co-op with. That sorta stuff.
Is the multiplayer still active enough to do that sort of stuff without having to wait 5 minutes for a summon?
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>>149985759
>Is the multiplayer still booming?
Pic related
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>>149986197
>Is the multiplayer still active enough to do that sort of stuff without having to wait 5 minutes for a summon?
>>149986114


There are a shitload of ganks so people somehow find phantoms but the game is dying fast >>149986206
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>>149986206
>>149986292
God damn that is depressing. Guess I'll just play solo with the pirated version and hope some sort of "Dork souls 3.2, electric money boogaloo" version comes along. Thanks lads.
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>>149986206
Its summer time though. Most of my Souls friends arent playing any games at all except for the occasional hour of rocket league. I think itll pick up more during the fall, after dlc and towards the holidays especially.
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>>149986197
>Is the multiplayer still active enough to do that sort of stuff without having to wait 5 minutes for a summon?
Lots of co-op and invasions in the early levels because the start of the game is linear so pretty much everyone gets to the same parts at the same time. Can't speak for the later areas however.
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>>149986206
Where exactly do people get these from?
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>>149986423
Just wait for the DLC to drop, that'll probably revitalize the game for an extra month or two. Then you too can experience the inevitable population decline

>>149986516
steamcharts
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>>149986462
People are going to play more during the summer man, but you're right, the game is old and the PvP will probably be revived once the DLC comes around.
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>yfw gank squads, straight sword, claymores, lack of bring able to use almost any build killed DS3
t-thanks from
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>>149986764
Serves you right for giving a shit about """formal pvp"""
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>>149986636
>came out just 3 months ago
>old
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>>149986906
it's old because everyone is tired of it already
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>>149986636
Youre probably right. Maybe its just the age group. My friends and i are in our mid twenties. Since the spring, they are never on steam, but as soon as it starts getting cold out everybody is back at it. Normally i dont even touch my computer when its the warmer seasons but im having so much god damn fun with DaS3 i cant stop. I can see it being the opposite for kids that are still in gradeschool and on summer break though.
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>>149982968
Holy Diver. Give him the Giants set and the Catarina helm.
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>>149986906

Old for a game where the main focus is PVE yeah.
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>>149986887
>don't give a shit about the main thing that gives player longevity
keep eating up shit souls 3
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whats the sl for catacomb invasions?
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>>149987049
>he thinks muh high level pvp is what gives souls games longevity
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>>149986906
Let me rephrase that, the game got old to most people, half of players are only in it for the "that insanely hard game" hype, and probably haven't touched PvP, the rest either got tired of it, formed gank squads, and then there's the few 1-2k who invade and duel.
>>149986987
Exactly, kids make up the majority of pretty much any game, the whole "gamers are on average 40 years-old LOL" is bullshit.
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>>149987020
Doesn't help that the PvE is trash after 1 playthrough.
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>>149987182
it does though
doesn't help that the pve is also fucking garbage with no replayability
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>>149986206
99% of them are dueling at pontiff or co opping /invading past that point. got invaded suprisingly often on ng+ of a SL120 char going thru the game and pontiff was full of signs as normal
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>>149987232
So like any other souls game?
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>>149986887
Fuck off one of the thing that was based about DS2 is how many weapons and different builds you could use and how fun that was.
>>149987182
It does and especially in DS3 where NG+ is shit
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Nobody's asleep
post hollows
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>>149987182
theres only so many ways to play through the game that would actually require a new build anon. game was fun to go though and all but you may have a problem if you liked it enough to do it more than twice so far without DLC
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>>149987149
I'd say SL40 with +6 weapons (+3 with unique/boss)
Your range will be from SL30/+4 to SL60/+9
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>>149987343
I could switch up my path in other dark souls games, but not in this trash. Even if I want to do bosses in a SLIGHTLY different order quests will fuck up.
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>>149987581

Do you want to give me eye-cancer?
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>>149987581
the character models have far too much detail for something like this, try binocs and environments only
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>>149987581
Looks awful
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>>149987524
Nothing wrong with achievement hunting famster
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>It's a "the camera is the hardest part of the fight" episode.
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>>149987348
>>149987524
Jolly coop and invasion builds were objectively the most fun part about DS1. For DS2 this wasn't true because SM royally fucked them over, but you can do them again in DS3. I see a good bunch of people doing it. People in Kirk gear invading High Wall and so on. Just today I summoned someone at SL15 who was wearing Lothric Knight gear.
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>try faith/gwyn rp build
>get lightning/any damage miracles only in endgame
and lightning spear is shit, thanks from
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>>149987750
>I can't play unlocked
Get fucked shitter, Stormbird is a fucking pushover.
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>>149962116
Dark Magic is humanity turned into a weapon, doing physical damage because it has a more tangible presence in the world.

Also, how Purusers were sentient beings;
>The will feels envy, or perhaps love, and despite the inevitably trite and tragic ending, the will sees no alternative, and is driven madly toward its target.

Before it was all ruined, at least.
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>>149987869
I AM playing unlocked. Whenever I get close to him my camera gets out of control.
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>>149987750
>so hard
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>>149987857
I aquired lightning spear when i was level 7 still.
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>>149988068
yeah lightning spear is the only thing you get early but it does shit damage
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>>149987750
fuck Oceiros his fight is just staying under him and rolling when he starts to move too much. Doing this while the camera shits itself on him and the tree roots he is allowed to slide up.

>Oceiros charges his back legs hit you and you take no damage
>sweet I'll stay under his crotch
>Oceiros does a slightly different charge and this time his back legs hit you and you lose half your health and get knocked over for 3 seconds

People like to complain about Big dudes in armor but at least the camera doesn't fuck itself on them and their hitboxes generally are consistant.
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>>149988068
>level 7
Did you just run through from start to farron withouth leveling once?
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>>149987232

Doesn't matter much anyway, just look at Dark Souls on PC, only 23% of players even reached Anor Londo. Dark Souls is a game people buy to say they play it then drop after a few easy bosses that wrecked their shit.
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>>149987869
>>149988035
>instead of admitting From is incompetent at camera work lets just say git gud.
>except in DaS2 then its B Teams fault
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>>149988363
Post a webm of your camera, if it isn't like that one already posted. Then post an actual DaS2 webm of bad camera.
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any good crusader build? dont want to look like solaire
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>>149988167
You might be able to find a friendly anon to drop a lightning gem for you too. I do wish there were more early game faith related things though.
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>>149979871
>Dark Souls 2
>lore
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How would you nerf rolling dsg ?
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>>149988363
I've played every game in this series, I'll call From out when they do dumb shit, and they have done a lot of dumb fucking shit in every game.
This is not one of them, the camera is honestly fine in this fight.
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>>149988312
No, i leveled 7 times lol but yes i ran passed as much as possible and then came back and played and did co-op for everything i skipped. Worth it imo
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>>149988528
That's pretty obvious. More recovery with the same roll distance and i frames.
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Playing through DeS for the first time. Is Wanderer's Falchion good to last me through the whole game?
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>>149988528
Less I-frames, make weight% actually matter, rolls consume more stamina when locked onto a target.
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Where do I get more Purging Stones after Yuria leaves? I've beaten Soul of Cinder and got the hollow ending but I haven't gone into NG+ yet.
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>>149988528
DaS1 roll breakpoints. Exactly as they were, with DaS2's slowdown up to 120%. Rework armor damage resistance so that it's worth midrolling or fatrolling so everyone doesn't just fastroll with longswords.
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>>149988528
Slight cooldown between rolls.
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>>149988528

Double stamina cost.

1 less iframe.

2 frames longer recovery.

There, fixed.
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>>149988363
i'm not saying the camera isn't shit, i'm saving you can trivialize the fight the the shit camera isn't really an issue

>>149988528
make the ring not work in pvp
like clutch rings/ steel protection

>sacred oath is nerfed in pvp even though it's only 10% required 2 slots and 30 faith
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>>149988528
>cost at least as much as a halberd swing
>gradient-type rolling speed changes so that 30% and 69.9% aren't the same
there done now all straightswords and their phantom ranges are unstoppable since you can't just roll 16 times and wait for them to stop spamming R1
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>>149988329
Don't forget that most people who own a Dark Souls game on PC just have it sitting in their library and never bother installing it.

I should know, I have about 40 games that I've bought and they've been sitting in my library for years
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>>149988772
>like clutch rings/ steel protection
those don't work in PvP?
I need to just uninstall this fucking game.
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>>149988528
Increase the recovery window of rolling slightly. There should be a larger space between rolls where you're not covered by iframes.
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>>149988528
Implement our own rule set that dictates all duel and honor fags should fat roll at all times.
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>>149988528
I wouldn't.

Try getting good :^)
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>>149989000
use fire surge dark estoc instead
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>>149988882
We really ought to do a fatroll event sometime.
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>>149989000
Fighting a passive player with a washing pole while using a FUG is the most frustrating shit I've ever experienced
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>>149989186
i actually believe it fixes many of the problems associated with this game currently.
A fast weapon that constantly roll catches might be a problem though we'l have to see.
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>>149989354
I don't think you could beat a carthus if both players were fat rolling.
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>>149989457
I think using Perserverence plus full Havel's (remember, fat rolling) would nullify most of the damage and allow a Mace to win a trade.
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>>149987343
DaS1 and 2 have a lot of forks in the roads and when you want to switch up builds you van strategize a little where you want to go at the start of the game to gain those items. Arguably the biggest replay value is to strategize how to do x level builds as efficiently as possible without killing too many bosses so you leave them open for pvp. In Dark 3 the replayability only comes from if you want lategame gear but want to get invaded in earlier areas because the only bosses you can skip post-Denial patch are Old Meme King and Memeless King.
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>>149989652
Don't forget shields and slower weapons gain more usability.
It will make the game more skill based at the very least.
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>>149988648
respond pls
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>>149988528
If you're wearing armor of any kind, you have DaS2 rolls.
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>>149989243
I don't know what it is about fighting ultras that draws out the biggest shitter in people
>dueling at pontiff's with the FUGS
>summon some purple with a corvian greatknife and full thorn armor
>he stops and swaps to bloodring when he sees my weapon
>plays ultra-passively, doing nothing but trying to whiff-punish
>I stop attacking too and just mirror his passive little dance
>he eventually gets impatient and walks into a combo for half his health
>completely stops attacking afterwards and just spite-kites me for about 5 minutes straight
>tries a rolling attack at one point and eats a followup R1
>backs off for a while, clearly frustrated
>now starts spamming thorn armor rolls at me
>swap to sun princess ring and a blessed cestus while he's rolling at me and just ignore the thorn armor damage entirely
>he eventually realizes it isn't working and sprints off into the level
>comes back about 10 minutes later, now back at full health
>we go at it again, and he's back to just fishing for whiff punishes
>tries to run off into the level again when he's almost dead and gets caught by a running attack
That whole "duel" took about 30 minutes. I've never encountered someone who was simultaneously both so terrible and so passive at the same time. Had he two braincells to run together I'm sure he would've just opened CE once he was in full crybaby mode.
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>>149989652
Not really. Perseverance doesn't work against fast 2H weapons like the Cardcaptor unless they swing twice. They can always swing once into your WA and then roll away or block before you can retaliate, and maces are abysmal at catching rolls, even fatrolls, due to their bad arc and low reach.
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>>149989892
It is.
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>>149990103
why does DeS combat feel better and less clunky than DaS1 combat?

why is this game so ez?
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>>149989892
Any weapon that isn't a joke or trash will get you through.
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>>149990084
You can use it whenever they come near you to make them fuck off.
Same goes for swinging with long weapons.
unfortunately that's how you have to play.
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>Play through DS3 blind, first souls game, with occaisional PvP/helping others with bosses
>20 hours
>Play through DaS blind, understand how souls "works", no interaction with other players
>24 hours

Barring the fact that DaS has no warping until halfway through the game (which even then will only add MAYBE 30 minutes of game time) it is quite obvious that From rushed 3. I think they were so focused on making the "base" of 3 good (graphics, animations of characters/enemies, creating the basic layout of levels that were not too difficult for new players but maybe still a challenge) that they really didn't put enough content in. I feel like 3's level designs are mostly the same- there is no real environment switch up like blighttown, many of 3's maps are just relatively flat and linear, with all "branching paths" leading to a dead end, or bringing you back to the place you started in a loop. I hope that the reason DLC hasn't been announced yet is because they are actually working on creating some quality content for the game.

or maybe I just suck and shouldn't have taken so long to beat DaS
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>>149990242
your right.
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>>149990242
>shouldn't have taken so long to beat DaS

I took 80 hours for DaS1, 100 hours for DaS2 and 50 hours for DaS3.
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>>149989892
Yes. The Falchion can be upgraded along many paths to become as strong as any other weapon in the game (more or less), but that doesn't mean you should turn a blind eye to the rest of the weapons you could possibly get.
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DS3's PVE is supposed to be balanced around enemies designed with super-combos and roll catching and its PVP is balanced around multiple people fighting.

However, Hackazaki just said "fuck it" when it came to PVE so that fatrolls and armor is completely worthless. In PVP BAMCO wanted to appeal to the most casual userbase so that they have every advantage to not get fucked by invaders.

Now I see a lot of plebbitors and /v/irgins defending these choices by saying "git gud" or "you just can't accept change". These same hypocrites that bashed DS2 for pandering and linearity or BB for lack of variety are eating up this regurgitated trash that has the most fanswervice, linear world, with the least amount of viable weapons.
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>>149990203
>You can use it whenever they come near you to make them fuck off.
Not really. You can use it whenever they come close to let them damage you and then back off with impunity. Sure, the damage is 1 attack reduced by 60%, but you're still taking about 140 damage that incurs absolutely no risk or resources on the part of the attacker, and meanwhile you're down a bit of FP from the exchange.
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>>149990242
Honestly, memes aside, while playing through 3 I get the impression that they really didn't even want to fucking make the game. they just had to because of contracts. it's not bad but it's utterly perfunctory and soulless, pun not intended. even though das2 wasn't as good it still had far more soul than this one did.

i myself cannot wait for miyazaki's next game
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>>149990174
>why does DeS combat feel better and less clunky than DaS1 combat?

Matter of preference.

>why is this game so ez?
Which one?
Demon's Souls' first zone is easy because it's an extended tutorial. But generally the first zone isn't difficult if you're familiar with the Souls series' combat mechanics since it's mostly just straight up combat with ambushes.

Some of the other worlds can get trickier.
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Any tips for pyro build in DaS2? King's Ring any good?
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>the undead settlement tower elevator has two platforms
holy fuuuuuuck
all this time I thought you had to first activate it, then backtrack through the level and reach it a second time

I am not smart
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>>149990717
its ez af u cuck

>>149990803
lol dumby
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>>149990758
>Kings Ring
Not worth
>Tips
Int/Fai i think? they do up the damage pyros do
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>>149988753
now pve is ruined
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>>149990758
No, the King's ring is like a 2% increase or something, it's negligible.

Just gouge the fuck out of Attunement. You don't need much int and fth since damage scaling is kinda sucky, but attunement will let you stack scrolls of your best spells for more casts and carry more spells to handle different situations. Also 40 endurance is a must since some of your spells take fuckloads of stamina, especially Great Combustion.
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>>149991002
Wrong.
Now you can't spam roll and actually have to time it to dodge attacks.
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>>149991002
To be fair, swinging any weapon but ultras should cost less than rolling.
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>>149990498
>waaah i can't adapt to change

Go olay a different game shitboy
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>>149991002
Honestly, I think people would find the game in general much easier if they were forced to actually learn roll timing early on instead of just crutching on rollspam and learning nothing until they encounter bosses like Pontiff, purpose-built to fuck them for rollspamming.

That's exactly what happened with DaS2. The weaker roll meant that players were generally more competent in pve by the end of the game, since they were forced to learn timing early. In DaS3 you've essentially mastered every skill necessary to beat the game once you've learned that you can mash circle and R1
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>>149990430
Honestly, I did look up a few choice parts in both games, but I think regardless, the amount of time I saved in both games was the same amount
>>149990652
I'm not so sure they "didn't want to make the game," its definitely possible, but I do think they didn't want to release it when they did. As I said before, I think all they really had time to do was figure out the mechanics they wanted, and then fill in the rest with just "dark souls stuff"- hence all the fanservice. Stuff like every weapon in the same class having the same WA, or there literally being 3 weapons that can inflict frost damage, and will never be able to actually proc it bc of player resist and no resin to boost the effect show their laziness
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>>149990758
at least 15/15 INT / FAI, 30/30 is ideal
VIG, ATT, END all as high as you can go, 50 ATT is necessary

in PvE, poison mist and toxic mist are invaluable and work on almost all bosses

in PvP, outcry is your best cast
forbidden sun is only good if you can cast 12 of them in a row
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>>149990498
>However, Hackazaki just said "fuck it" when it came to PVE so that fatrolls and armor is completely worthless

You can complete the game fatrolling. While defense stacking isn't a viable playstyle, the critics would've utterly demolished the game if you could just Haveltank bosses like DS1. DS1 got a lot of things forgiven because it was the first game of the Dark Souls series and the first game to really have mass appeal.

>most fanservice
I don't have a problem with fanservice except for when it feels like really shallow and without reason.

>linear world
This is the biggest real fault I find with the game.

>with the least amount of viable weapons.
I focus on PvE so while you may have a point, I can't address that.

>>149988732
>DaS1 roll breakpoints. Exactly as they were, with DaS2's slowdown up to 120%.
That might be okay but that would also mean PvE would be slowed down which would only cater to the fatrollers and not the people who have played enough to reliably fastroll with light armor.

I think DeS fastroll breakpoint is better (50% equipment burden) so you'd have to stragize more in PvP but fastroll would still be the roll that bosses are designed for.
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>>149991443
>>149990953
>>149991050
Thanks! Last question, Pyro Flame is better than Dark Pyro Flame unless you're fully hollowed, right?
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>>149991597
Dark Souls 1 didn't have mass appeal, it had mass acclaim.
Very different things. Each sequel has been changed to be more palatable to the masses, each to their detriment, but you'd have to be daft to claim that DaS1 has mass appeal.
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>>149991816
Yes, and the dark flame only beats it out by a tiny amount of damage, so it's never worth the HP penalty.
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So can someone help me with Demons Souls stuff. I haven't touched the game in forever, and I've literally been able to finish any other Souls game but for some god damn reason I have this inability to:

1) Get past that fucking Boletaria dragon
2) Kill False Allant

Any advice? Also, I'm running a mage build with the meat cleaver
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>>149991816
yes, only difference is that you can grab the dark pyro flame earlier
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>>149990498
It's definitely true PvE is designed around a few choice bossfights (Pontiff, dancer, champ and their "lol I'm just gonna keep attacking" moves) but I don't think the PvP was "balanced" around anything at all. A lot of the problems in PvP stem from the fact that rolling was obviously based on PvE, and since there aren't really weapons that can do those giant wombo combos that the bosses do, players are shit out of luck. There is almost nothing you can do against a player who has 40 END and rolls away with you forever- even spells/bows can't do anything because the window which you can hit people is so small.

Fatrolling has always been pretty useless I think, as even tho you got poise and defense or whatever, you are still way too vulnerable due to the lack of iframes
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I'm really looking forward to the DLC because it'll give me the motivation to play through the whole game legit again.

At the moment I just want to make pvp builds and don't really have the patience to grind souls and gear so I just CE everything in then sprint to whatever area I want to be in.
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Is it worth waiting for summons for blue sentinels/darkmoon at SL120?
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>>149991998
Fatrolling was pretty usable in 2 thanks to the fact that it didn't actually affect your iframes. It was by no means optimal, but it was strong enough that you could take it into pvp and win pretty consistently.

I used to streamsnipe arena twitchfags with a "GUTS" character, using the generic drangarl's uniform and Greatsword while fatrolling, and it was certainly enough to beat most of their spinning robflynn shittery.
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>>149988692
bump

I have 5 more stones and I don't want to be ugly, my character is cute
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>>149992250
But can it transform into a normal chest?
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>>149991883
What's your problem with Allant? He's probably the most direct boss fight in the game in the sense you'd only dodge/survive then punish his moves.

And by dragon you mean which one? They're all optional as far as I recall.
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>>149991826
Okay, but the point remains that From 'made it big' with Dark Souls 1.

>>149991883
>1) Get past that fucking Boletaria dragon
Just time your run right. You won't be able to fight it.

>2) Kill False Allant
He's a tough customer, really.
>I'm running a mage build with the meat cleaver
Get a faster weapon for Allant, lol.
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>>149991883
>dragon

shoot with arrows

might take a hundred hours so read a book or something
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>>149992359
>Get a faster weapon for Allant, lol.
my little brother beat him with the BDS without issue
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>>149992348
I don't think it's the Allant fight as much the fact that I don't get that many chances at him since the dragon always kills me before I get there giving me a grand total of 5 tries on him

>>149992359
Only other weapon I have is the spear I got from Phalanx. Should I try backtracking through the Valley of Defilement and get the MGS?

>>149992486
Yeah I was afraid of this being the option. Those damn fat officials keep slowing me down along the way
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>>149991883
Allant is highly resistant to magic damage and weak to fire

Use a dragon longsword or something, or just spam fireball

For the dragon just stack fire defense and use water veil

Meat cleaver is not a mage weapon and also kind of shitty unless you're SL400
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>>149992543
>>149992486

If you're going to kill the Dragon with arrows, have the Clever Rat's ring active.
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>>149992543
alternatively, shoot the fatty furthest from you and bait the flamethrower once he gets in range

the dragon should take care of them but then you need to deal with the dragon anyway so might as well just get rid of the asshole
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>>149991883
To kill the dragon, use poison arrows if you don't have an upgraded bow
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pregnant doggo?
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>>149992808
He just borrowed Oceiros' nads.
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>>149992732
>>149992779
>>149992773
>>149992760
>Used all of my upgrade stones on useless shit
>Actually have a fully upgraded Old Hero's Sword

You know, I think I should start a new character over again since I think it would be fun to start over and experience the game again without fucking up along the way.

Any recommendations for a build that is fairly effective for PVE since PVP in DS is dead?
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For those who are playing DaS3 on PC with a Dualshock, what program are you using to make the controller work ingame?
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>>149992808
cum_inflation
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>>149992359
>From 'made it big' with Dark Souls 1

Didnt DaS3 have record breaking sales?
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>>149992254
Your character isn't cute.
You can try getting hollow's ashes or curing with the firekeeper.
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shit souls 3 TOP LELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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>>149993043
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>>149993097
You need to understand that prior to dark souls 1, Fromsoftware was such a nobody studio that they genuinely had difficulty getting their games published outside of japan. Dark Souls 1 was such a breakaway success relative to the entire rest of the history of their studio, going back some 20 odd years, that they went from having SEGA outright refusing to publish their games to being a household name and a director, now CEO, who's one of the first name's on anybody's lips when talking about game design.
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>>149993041

SCP driver 1.2.2.175
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>>149993005
anything
literally anything that isn't a goddamn mage with a meat cleaver that requires 4 damage stats to be good
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>>149992197
Yesterday i was going back to previous areas to collect rings and other items i missed. Im SL114 and i got summond successfully 5 times during a 2 hour period (more like 1:15 of actualy gameplay time).
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>>149993183
she's cute fuck you

Hollow's Ashes is supposed to be in blacked out Firelink Shrine right? I can't find it. Firekeeper is asking me 128000 souls to get rid of the sigil which I might do if I have nothing better to do and if I'm really screwed out of Purging Stones.
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>>149992808
Dog ate the maiden after killing the Carim knight who was protecting her.
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>>149991597
>You can complete the game fatrolling.

Post a video of you killing Lorian, Nameless King, Pontiff, hell even Ancient Wyvern while fatrolling please
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>>149993406
Yeah I know I kind of fucked up on that. I think my high school version of me was more concerned about aesthetics versus effectiveness.

Also, should I still manually turn off the internet connection to keep the World States balanced? I usually play Pure Black for the better drops
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What should a I change?

>>149993041
I bought a PS4
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>>149993530
She isn't, get used to it.

Hollow's ashes may not always spawn, so just use firekeeper or go to NG+
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>>149993616
>20 VIG
Enjoy being killed in 2 hits (1 combo)
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>>149993624
>may not always spawn

fuck this broken ass game
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>>149993346
I see what you mean now.
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You know what pisses me off? Merchants who get really offended when you don't buy anything. Like damn, stop telling me to fall off a cliff. I just wanna browse.
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>>149993561
>Ancient Wyrven
>what is Hidden Body
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>>149993404
Thanks pal.
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>>149993682
No, it's intentional. It only spawns if you don't ally with Yuria. I assumed maybe her leaving would make it return. Seems I was wrong.
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>>149993676
ill just evade
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>>149993616
Try 30 attune
20 vit
Rest of what you saved goes to vigor
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>>149993616
>120
>20 vigor
Dude come on now
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>>149993923
I thought fatrolling was viable by itself fuccboi. Defend it on its own.
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>>149993953

Be sure to get that version, there are actually two SCP drivers now. This one is an older project, but I couldn't get the newer one working properly.
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>>149993954
So the game intentionally fucks you out of getting more Purging Stones? Thanks From
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>>149994018
>15 END
Enjoy losing every fight
>>
>you suddenly remember when faith was viable
Better times
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>wake up
>still no patch or DLC news
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>>149994227
END is a meme stat in Dark Souls 3
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>>149994103
Does the oldest version run fine on Windows 10?
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>>149993616
Kill me: The build
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>>149990183
>>149990439
Er, there's so many upgrade paths. I dont know what to do. Should I just go the basic way to +10?
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is it better now?
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>>149994410

Yes, I have been using it with Windows 10 for months now without a problem.
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>>149994113
You went out of your way for this anon. You're done with the ending so heal that sigil idiot.
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>>149993616
>20 Vig
>25 Vit for sub-30
>CHAIN
>CLUTCH RING
>LIFEHUNT

Breh, nah

>Drop Clutch+Chain
>Drop Att to 30, invest in Vig ffs
>Decide on 2 out 3 schools of magic, get the rings for those, using all 3 is a bit overkill
>Get Favor or Life ring and Sage

Whats so good about sub-30% actually?
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>1 step into anor londo
>instantly invaded by 2 faithful
th-thanks ;_;
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>>149994615
fp gain after 35 is pretty shit, fyi
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>>149994615
No
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>>149994975
But 6 slots.
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>2H a greatshield
>impossible to kill

Nice game
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>>149995035
30vig with no life ring is pretty low for 120
i'd go 35/35 and put the extra points else-ware

returns after 35 aren't gr8 anyway
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>>149990084
>Cardcaptor
wtf is this
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>>149993885
>Chloanne makes it sound like she's a prostitute and she'd lift up her skirt if I gave her a good amount of souls
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>>149995035
This is a much better build
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>>149995305
Carthus Curved Sword, or "Card Captor Sakura" because they have the same abbreviation.
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>play DaS for the first time
>had to play with mouse and keyboard, controls were clunky, gave up before going out of the asylum
>try it again some time later, this time with a gamepad
>suffer to get past Taurus demon, but can't kill the gargoyles, even with help
>my friend asks me my starting class, I say "Knight"
>turns out I was fatrolling all along
>change my armor, beat gargoyles, now I have over 200 hours in each game

They could have explained the difference in rolls, don't you think? There's a class that fat rolls from the beginning and nobody ever tells you about it unless you change your armor due to fashion.
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>>149995253
>2-hand dark/deep carthus
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>>149994506
Yeah, then go Quality, sharp, etc., depending on your build.
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>>149995597
Unexpalined mechanics is annoying as fuck. I still wonder how the first person found out all the things that affected how online worked, because it's confusing as fuck.
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>>149995638
But it only does chip damage that gets replenished by regen. Also impossible to proc bleed if you just keep moving backwards since bleed build up takes longer than it drains.
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>>149995576
Shocking Truth!
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>>149995808
And this mechanic completely alters the game. I remember getting salty as fuck because I CLEARLY rolled at the right time, but turns out I was fatrolling and there was no way for me to know it.
The quests also annoyed me to no end, they're pretty much impossible to complete unless you read them up on the internet
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what gear should i use for a gwyn cosplay?
wolnirs crown or nk crown?
for weapon i guess either profaned gs or lorians gs because of the flamebuff, but what about armor?
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>>149995035
meh
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>>149993885
To be fair, the character you linked is not a good person.
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Why does DS3 feel like BB2?
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>>149996048
nameless king set with wolnir's crown?

definitely 27/40 profained for the weapon
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>>149978412
I actually just ignored Smelter on my first playthrough, since getting through that fog door alive was far more of a pain in the ass than simply pressing on. It's a shame because it's one of the better fights, they just tucked it in one dogshit little area.

Iron keep as a whole is okay, it's a pretty short area.

>>149978604
I actually quite liked that area, the singing made it really atmospheric and it just looked a whole lot nicer than most other areas. Enemy placement is a bit tedious for the boss run, but luckily Demon of Song is pretty much one of the easiest bosses in the game so it's not really a big issue.
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>>149996136
It doesn't.
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>>149996136
The PvE movesets of the bosses are great, and having multiple phases make the fights much more entertaining.
I don't see any other similarity though, BB is much more fast-paced.
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>>149996136
Its BB 0.5 let alone 2
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>>149996190
im also getting faith for the sunlight spears, wouldnt lorians be better in that case?
it has a bit of faith scaling after all
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>>149996026
I actually think every quest in 1 but Siegmeyer is nicely paced and I completed them all during the first time.
I personally really like how Solaire's is handed, since you'll most centainly complete it and get all rewards (except for the cases where he bugs) and, while there's a nice secret bonus where you save him, you are almost assured to find either end of the quest.
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>>149995645
cool beans
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>>149996340
How was I supposed to know I had to offer 30 humanities to albino spider in order to open a shortcut to kill a bug? I'm pretty sure everybody would try to save Solaire if they knew that's how it's done.
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>>149996136
Because they tried to pace it like BB instead of a souls game, and the excrement of action that pours out incontinently as a result lacks the methodical feeling and charm of the previous games.
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>>149996136
>comparing shit souls 3 to the masterpiece that is bloodborne
die
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>>149996331
if you plan to do something like 27/10 str/ dex and 50+ faith, then lorian's would probably be better

but if you plan to be hollowed gwyn with no bolts, then quality profained would be stronger
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>>149996331
Why are you guys getting UGS?
Gwyn uses a greatsword.
While there's none that's close enough to its looks, you could get a claymore or similar then use a resin on it.
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>>149996136
Demon's Souls 2.0 with a little BB on top.
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>>149996675
Why is Lorian getting so excited about his own brother?
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>>149996675
>comparing DaS3 to DeS
Just no.
It's like saying DaS2 is DaS2.0.
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>>149990242
>DaS blind
>24 hours

Absolute horseshit. You obviously went in with some knowledge of the game, otherwise there is just no way you could figure out some of the more obtuse aspects of the game in that time.
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>>149996523
The thing is, you don't need to. What happens if you save Solaire? You can't get his armour unless you kill him and you get to summon him for Gwyn, but that's it.
You aren't losing meaningful plot by him reaching the bad end and you're very unlikely not to have him find the bug since all his interactions are very close to where you progress through.

I think the problem with Siegmeyer's quest is that the secret end of it in ash lake is easier to trigger than him doing the heroic death, so you're very likely to see him survive the demons only to wonder if that was it.

Compared to quests in the other games, DaS's quests are quite forgiving and reaching the fail state (player not seeing the end of the quest, whether it's the good or the bad one) is very hard to happen unless you bug it or kill the NPC.
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>NPC invades at the crab swamp
>Magically just disappears, haven't seen her once
>I'm all outta Estus

dude nice
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>>149996851
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>>149996874
he sounds right to me. its combat feels closer to des than any of the others. the rolling and movement is just likes des, just a little more sped up. it also has the mana bar back.

to me das3 feels like a mix of all of them though.
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>>149997164
Heysel casts hidden body periodically to dissapear like a bitch
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>>149996507
Actually, don't do that. That anon thought you were talking about DaS3. In DaS3, you can infuse whenever you want, but DeS is different. In DeS, if you want to get on the route to Quality, or Sharp, you have to stop at certain points. Always check up with someone who can take you down these paths to see if you can go down an upgrade path.
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>>149996874
>mana bar
>regen
>Maiden in Black 2.0
>centralized hub
>faster rolls like DeS
>upgrade Paths

Face it, DS3 takes more from Demon's Souls mechanics wise than the other games do.

>>149996851
Because he wants him to ride him again.
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>>149997132
That's possible if you happen not to do optional stuff because you didn't know. Say you're not misled towards catacombs or new londo and never find great hollow or painted world, it could happen.
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>>149997279
Nah, it's the Rosaria ring.
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>>149997281
huh. so I'll just go to +10 basic anyway and that should be fine right?
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>>149996874
>It's like saying DaS2 is DaS2.0
>It's like saying x is x
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>>149997149
This is true, but Solaire is pretty much the only "friend" you have in the game. Having to kill him was kind of sad.
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I wish DaS let you point buy custom classes.
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>>149997298
That would make DaS3 DeS3.0 and BB DeS2.0.
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>>149997656
Congratulations, you noticed something.
>>
Is there a weapon like a spear (pretty fast, good range) that scales mostly in STR?
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>>149996523
>>149997149
Can also just use poison cloud through the locked shortcut door.
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>it doesn't have a stance WA
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>>149998027
No shit, Sherlock. And how would you figure that out on your first playthrough without reading the wiki?
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>>149998028

>Smough's WA is useless perseverance instead of Charge

>>149997993

Yes, the Gargoyle Bident in 2.
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>>149997991
Congratulations, you're upset on 4chinks.
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>>149997993
In DaS1, I mean
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>>149998028
I was so incredibly disappointed that you can;t hold it like the boss does.

Why even give it a handle behind the blade if you don't use it?
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>STOMP

WHY JUST WHY. IT DOESN'T EVEN GIVE 100% "POISE" LIKE PERSEVERANCE
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Anyone else grape invade Aldrich faithful area, only to fight the other invaders for shackles?
>>
memehackazaki
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>>149998113
Well, the game trains you to use poison through doors with the Capra Demon fight.
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>>149998373
Fuck faithful
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>>149997298
One, those are mechanics. Mechanics do not equal the game. DaS3 is a far cry from Demon's Souls, even though it tries to reference it.
Two, it doesn't even get those mechanics right.
Three, it's not Demon's Souls in the places where it matters. Tell me one good weapon with knockback, real fucking knockback, not some pansy ass Black Knight Greatsword fully charged R2's, I'm talking about a Hand of God Running R1, real fucking Storm Ruler knockback, that sends people fucking skidding across the ground. DeS had like 7 weapons that did that. Give me a weapon that completely ignores shields; not just deals chip damage, not attacks through block on special attacks, but just straight up does not register that shields exist. Demon's Souls had two of those. Where's my spell that drains soul level?
Third, the aesthetic is all wrong, I don't think I need to go into how.
Four, where's the Old Monk boss? The boss that shows that the game is meant to be played online, and that one of the greatest challenges a player can face is another player? None, not even an attempt to reiterate it?

DaS3 is trying to be every game in the series at once. It does none of them right.
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>>149998474
Zweihander charged one handed R2 sends people flying forward.
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>>149998195
It literally has no function except to extend the windup time of the actual WA attacks on ultras. I'm sure from had a concept at one point of the purpose it would serve, and then just bungled the execution due to rushing the game out the door and could never be arsed to finish it/fix it.

It seems like, for all intents and purposes, DaS3 is done being patched until the DLC flops, limp and malformed, onto our doorstep come late autumn. No doubt it will be in a similarly rushed state to the main game, and full of just as many half-baked ideas that might have once been something cool but never received the time or effort necessary to realize it.
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>>149997305
You honestly believe somebody could just happen on the correct path through the entire game without getting knocked off course once? I think your forgetting how obtuse and labyrinthine the whole world is.

Sure, he may well have avoided all optional areas, but what about shit like the crest of artorias, you seriously think he was able to figure that out in a 24 hour playthrough?
>>
Weapon Arts were a mistake

Dual-wield specific items were a mistake

L1 Block was a mistake

70% fast roll was a mistake

400+ AR, fast stunlocking weapons were a mistake

Light/Medium Armor giving 20-25% ABS when Heavy Armor gives only 30% was a mistake

Roll costing no stamina was a mistake

Miracles being shit was a mistake

Mana system was a mistake

Ashen Estus was a mistake

30% HP penalty, seeds, invade up, and reduce HP items were a mistake

Rehashing NPCs was a mistake

Rehashing Entire Areas was a mistake

This game was a mistake
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>>149999183
Pretty much desu 2bh
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>>149999183
I agree with all this.
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>>149987750
Fighting monsters in MonHun trained me for this fight.
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>>149999183
Your life is a mistake.
>>
>Pyro gets their hard hitting range spell 50% through the game
>maybe a bit early but it is an optional area
>Sorcery get their hard hitting range spell 95% through the main game
>Well at least I can use it for the last two bosses and then NK hahaha...
>Faith get their hard hitting range spell AFTER the main game
>Does it's best damage in melee range
>The weakest of the 3 spells even in melee range
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>>149999867
t. hackazaki cumguzzler
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>>150000016
>he doesn't realise GHSA is the best PvE spell for mages

Soul arrow may be flashy but after Orbeck you should have no troubles at all.
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>>150000000
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>>149999183
The mistake was everyone who bought DaS2 twice. It let From know they could shit out literally anything and you fucks would eat it up gladly.
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>>149980194
the unkindleds that don't recive the dark signs are the player characters that never hollow
that's why you never hollow ( unless you purposefully recive the dark ring )
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>>150000072
t. butthurt internet dweller
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>>149969806
his choice was wise, dragon pussy is superior
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>>149990242
>mfw DaS1 took me ~100 hours WITHOUT AotA
>SOFTS probly ~40 goin through every dlc as i found them
>BB probly 45 but most of that was spent AFK while shitposting here and bbg
>DaS3 22 hours and 40 minutes excluding archdragon peak.


I only hope that the DLC will breathe some more life into this game, otherwise fromsoft should be already planning BB 2.
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>>150000343
>fanart

They look like starving Africans with goatheads in the game
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>>150000461
>BB 2.
Why? There's no reason to continue the series, the fact that it went completely against its premise of hunting beasts to facing Ayys and greater beings can't be replicated.
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>>150000016
CSS is only marginally stronger than Great Heavy Soul Arrow and is much less FP-efficient. There's really no reason to use the soul spear spells in 3 unless you actually need the penetrative properties, since GHSA is almost the same damage and more FP-efficient.

Faith also gets lightning stake, which is comparable in damage to the top-tier spells of every other casting school, in smouldering lake and it's also an AoE spell that can hit multiple targets for full damage

The main problem with sorcery isn't that it's best magic is locked too deep in the game, it's that its best magic is fucking boring and most of its high-tier spells are completely fucking worthless. 90% of the spells available through sorcery are made obsolete by GHSA, and only about 3 sorceries are unironically usable in pvp. Miracles have the inverse issue; it's not that they have millions of spells made obsolete by 1 or 2 optimal choices, but that they just have no fucking spells. There's a grand total of like 7 damage-dealing miracles in the game and 4 of them are just different tiers of the same spell.

FP was a mistake, to be honest. Limiting casts on a spell-by-spell basis meant you always had incentive to use multiple different spells, even if they were less optimal. Having all casting share a universal resource just means that resource-efficiency plays into the effectiveness, and the overall objectively best spell will just so happen to also be one of the most efficient, to the point where there's never a reason to use other spells except to be flashy and less effective.
>>
How much do I need to care about weapon scaling in PvE?
I'm on my first playthrough and I'm strength-based, should I bother with weapons that have D scaling on strength?
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>>149999183
>70% fast roll
69.99% actually :^)
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>>149999183
I think weapon arts are cool and FP is fine, everything else is correct though

>>150001012
you can be at exactly 70.00% and still fastroll
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>>150000936
What? Of course not.
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>>149998649
A pitiful amount. At 20 seconds into this video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuwKXE6_4d8 ) you see the knockback that the Dragon Bone Smasher does. I also want to talk about the rolling attack he's spamming, but I'll focus on one topic. That guy flies back, skids across the ground, and is down on his ass by the time the attacker can move. It's not like this in DaS3. Honestly, DaS2 was looking great with its Zweihander Golf Swings. The Network Test may have overdone it a little, just a little, but at 1.0 the knockback was on point and shouldn't have ever been changed.
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>>150000936
It depends on the base damage. Your fists have 500% scaling (like SSS scaling) in both STR and DEX but only 20 base damage, so you only go up to 220 AR at 99/99.
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This is silly. And glorious.
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>underground catacombs
>brightly lit

>underground hell demon ruins
>brightly lit (and not by lava, just some random light source)

>massive Cathedral with no sunlight entering
>brightly lit

Its pitiful that even vanilla DS2 had more darker areas than this game. I remember chalice dungeons in BB that required more use of torches than DARK souls 3.
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>>150001080
>FP is fine
nvm, >>150000793 is right
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>>150000676
>>150000676
I was trying to make a point of them better be planning another game because DaS3 is pretty much kill
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>>150001451
>another game
No way, Miyazaki-san is tired of this shit.
Dark souls 3 was a mistake.
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>>150001254
DaS2 might not had been the Dark Souls 2 I was hoping for, but in some respects it was great. And one of those respects is its proper representation of ACME Products.
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>>150000793
changing FP wouldn't fix the spells being boring shit that you can't hit with
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>>150001284
>random dark chalice
>shifting in the blur of darkness
>madman comes running up

Unexpected horror game tbqh
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>>150001284
i love using the torch in ds3 but there is absolutely no reason to ever fucking do that except for the pretty lighting effect or emergency fire damage
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>>149998474
>Four, where's the Old Monk boss?
Old Monk was a cool gimmick but now it'd be a mandatory fight against a Gotthard tryhard.

The challenge is only as good as the challenge you're facing. Old Monk was cool when the concept of invading another player's world was new.

>One, those are mechanics. Mechanics do not equal the game.

Mechanics do equal the game. Unless you think that graffix equal the game.
Of course content and how that's organized also make the game, but mechanics play a big part of it.

>Give me a weapon that completely ignores shields
Yeah, I get Blind and Moonlight greatsword, but those were unique weapons that were rebalanced to not ignore shields for balance reasons. Well, Blind doesn't exist in the other games but still.

>Where's my spell that drains soul level?
Oh, mechanics don't make a game but an individual game does?

One mechanic that I also forgot to mention that is very DeS is the extremely low threshold for infinite invasions and the health mechanic.
>inb4 muh ganks
Dude, I'm just glad to be able to red orb invade infinitely from the get go.
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>>150001543
One of my beefs with DaS2 is how the classes are spread. If you want to use hammers and primarily hammers, you really want to go Cleric. Why Cleric? Simply because hammers require dick for DEX, and Clerics have dick for DEX. I think it goes Cleric, Deprived/Explorer, and then Sorceror.

So if you're trying to make points could, I sort of feel it's better to take the free heals than to waste unnecessarily. Also, a lot of fire weapons scale on Faith, so you can easily swap to Smelter Sword and Pyromancy and be some pyrelord.

Just a little niggle.
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>>150001886
it's very mandatory if you actually adjust the brightness using the in-game guideline

shit gets dark
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>>150002024
Similarly, Sorcerer is best for a fencer because they have dick for strength.
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>>150002126
Even on the darkest setting No area requires it. The only place that comes close is that tiny wine cellar in Irythill
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>>150000000
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>>150002024
>>150002172
I think a fix would've been to make strength and dex affect attack speed. So then the stats aren't ever useless.
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Is it possible to play through the game with minimal rolling, heavy armor and a greatshield?
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>>150002234
Then you clearly didn't follow the guideline.
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>>150002172
>>150002024
Except that's not true. Run the actual numbers, you're less efficient with those starters because you waste more points into casting stats than you save in unused physical stats.

Being autistic AND bad at math must be quite harrowing. I feel bad for your parents.
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>>150002479
I have the brightness on minimum like that guy and i agree, no area require a torch
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Thinking about making a pyro and dagonslayer swordspear build. Thoughts? Any tips?
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>>150002529
yeah wasn't bandit the best class for literally every single melee build?
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>>150002628
Read what the guide says. The picture of the dragon should be INVISIBLE.

Also of course you don't need the torch after you've played the game and know the layout of the levels. But on first playthrough with the proper brightness settings, it was absolutely mandatory.
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>>150002024
On the plus side, it didn't have any literally worthless stats like Resistance, and Endurance wasn't the end-all be-all stat to dump points in anymore.
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>>150002713
Who is that and why should I care
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>>150001992
>before Old monk would've been a griefing faggot
>now it'd be just a tryhard faggot

You can see the community clearly moved from being funny assholes to boring assholes.
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>>150000072
>super meme man to the rescue
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>>150002529
Was just my feelings on the matter. Weighing the options, I feel more comfortable being able to structure the build for my melee. If you have dex with a strength weapon, it doesn't do anything at all. If you have attunement and faith, at least it bolsters your defenses a bit and adds a minor bit to things like agility.
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>>150002930
A literal nobody YouTuber and you shouldn't care.

Seriously though, you're better off not knowing, the guy is a fucking retard you only watch for cringe shit, he literally got stuck in the tutorial of Half-Life 2 because he didn't know what crouch-jumping is.
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NEW THREAD

>>150003029
>>150003029
>>150003029
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>>150002930
A youtube e-celeb who pretends to be retarded and bad at video games to get people to watch him.
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>>150002930
how the shit does one not know the artist that is dsp?

first day out of facebook?
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>>150002930
Posted the wrong comic.
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>>150001992
>Yeah, I get Blind and Moonlight greatsword, but those were unique weapons that were rebalanced to not ignore shields for balance reasons.
They were pretty well balanced weapons though. The only OP thing about them was that certain enemies could be destroyed completely because the AI didn't react properly to it.
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>>150000616
Gwyn please leave
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>>149946974
Why is the straight Sword you can make from the Twin Princess Souls so shit
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