/fog/ - Fallout General

dude

memes

The memes moved in and now I'mmmmmm movin' out

>>149924617
That's the secret. You don't aim them.

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1st for best armor

Brotherhood of steel did nothing wrong. The righteous Brotherhood split from the vile imposters in Washington

>>149924752
>The righteous Brotherhood split from the vile imposters in Washington
Literally backwards.

>>149924749
That's not the Hellfire armor.

>>149924801
Literally correct. "Outcasts" are infinitely more BoS than the "brotherhood"

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Oh no, watch out!!

That gargantuan gal is going to hurt someone!!

>>149924749
>>149924828
>>149924890
Who cares?

>>149924904
What gun is that?

>>149924890
You are aware the Outcasts came back to the boS after Maxson took over?

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>>149924828

Here it is, remade in glorious FO4 graphics.

I seriously hope that the guy working on it just showed the extremely rough WIP and isn't considering releasing it in this form

If it's a ghoul, mutie, or synth, it deserves nothing less than to be slaughtered. No exceptions

>>149924904
Who is she??

Is there a mod to replace the "assault rifle" with like a belt fed machine gun or something?

Is there a mod to make automatic weapons not vastly inferior to semis?

>>149925020
Because Maxon righted the ship that was thrown oh so horribly off course by the sheepish "Lyons"

>>149925023
That helmet looks ridiculous.

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Why are people posting Fallout 4 trash here? Take that shit abomination back to /v/

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>>149924982
>>149925069
I'm telling you, she's lost it!!!

She's gung-ho!! She's on the warpath!!

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What is it about this spot? Go to bed you fuckers. There are more than enough!

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>Stilll waiting for Nuka World.

>inb4 they fuck the Raider aspect up

>>149925446
what does she smell like

>>149924904
>>149925327
This is just really sad. Especially taking into consideration how long you've been doing this.

>>149925446
>Raider aspect
What?

>>149925347
Something really messes with the dweller AI. I had most of my people randomly walk into my reactor room.

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repostan...

I have a generator, a terminal, and the exercise bike all linked.

The terminal does not seem to register that the bike exists.

If I try to make the connection generator to bike, then from bike to terminal, the terminal does not receive power. It's like the bike doesn't exist.

But, if I manually assign someone to sit on the bike, the terminal will receive power, but still won't go past the "Initializing" part of boot up. As if nothing is attached.

I've read a bit online and apparently this is moderately common.

Anyone else have this issue?

>>149925197
Except Maxson is doing all the same things aLyons such as protecting the people even if no tech is involved.

The only thing Maxson does different is that he spends more time collecting tech from ruins then Lyons did.

>>149925552
key word is "people". not ghouls, not trash cans

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>>149925506
Better watch it!!!

This one's not playing around!!

>>149925347
AI pathing is worse in Vault Tec DLC than anywhere else in the game. Most of the time my settlers just stand in the middle of the atrium all day. The atrium is very open, all of their workstations are directly bordering it and they still just stand there. Companions don't navigate properly either, even if you scrap literally everything in the caverns.

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>>149925446
>inb4 all bethesda games including daggerfall and morrowind are shit

>Inb4 All CDPR games are shit

>inb4 Stalker is shit

>inb4 /v/ faggots and nma fucktards starts saying that all rpg games are inferiror and new vegas is better than Visual novel the game, a.k.a Planescape: Torment

>>149925446
Here's hoping for the raider girl companion
please don't fuck this DLC up Beth

>>149925631
Lyons hated ghouls also, he allowed his men to take shots at the ghouls of the Underworld, and refused to give ghouls any of the clean water

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>>149925501
Like sweat and blood

>>149925508
Nuka World claims to let you terrorize the commonwealth with a raider gang.

>>149925680
I WANT BUFFQUAD TO BRUTALLY MURDER ME!

>>149925023

OPEN YOUR EYES FOR THE NEXT FAIZ

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>>149922663

His Securitrons are always upgraded at the Lucky 38.

So much for a stealthy entrance: as soon as I entered the suite, I got lasers being shot at me while I took out the ones I could (including Jane) using my pulse slugs.

Had to retreat and stay on the top floor, as Securitrons can't climb stairs. Seconds later I discovered one of the mods (or the vanilla game) makes it so that low Explosives = throw things like a baby, meaning my pulse grenades exploded right in front of me.

Then made the mistake to look for the remaining Securitrons, only for one to blast me using his missiles. Took Hydra and retreated back up, sniping them from there, until only there was one left and caught him from behind.

Then I evaded the remaining two Securitrons in the secret room using a Stealth Boy, killed House with a SHITTON OF BULLETS (what the fuck is up with that, really), and the job was done. ED-E is waiting for me near the Mormon Fort.

>>149925752
You know they will. The companion will be an overweight guy with extremely annoying dialogue. Not even a decent personality just really annoying commentary and whining about his drug addictions

he will also be lawful good despite being a raider. This I will guarantee you.

Bonus points if he's black or a mexican

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>>149925809
Can't wait for the raider radiant quests that let me kill random (and only for this quest generated) NPC's in one of 5 randomly selected locations in the Commonwealth! Such evil!

>>149925963

An overweight black mexican transvestite with big rimmed glasses and rainbow colored hair

>>149925687
pathing is always shit, its just made worse by the multiple rooms and layouts that a sprawling vault creates. Bethesda will never fix it.

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>>149925927
Buffyquad is the best murderer! She'll make sure your death is really, really good!

>>149925680
What gun is that?

>>149926083
>>149925687
DESU guys, I have zero NPc patching problems in the Vault DLC.

They all navigate all three floors of my vault perfectly, they reach their assigned locations all the time, and even walk all the way to the mutfruit farm I have near the water purfier and back without fail.

>>149926080
Main weapon: Rolling Pin

>>149925809
>Nuka World claims to let you terrorize the commonwealth with a raider gang.
Where did you read this at?

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>>149926125
The kind you shoot people with, you bozo! What else are you gonna do with it; hammer nails? Ha ha ha ha ha ha

>>149926307
What mod is that gun from

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am I the only one who thinks "prep time" for this game is more fun than playing the game itself?

I mean, setting all the mods first, the ENBs, find the right combo then forge the character you want, give him the best gear and weapons then..it's just meh?

I mean I've spent at least 80 hours just building settlements

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>>149926268
Right here

>>149926268
Not him, but part of the official description was "use raiders to capture settlements in the commonwealth!"

It was later removed, but someone asked Pete Hines, and he confirmed its part of the DLC.

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>>149926421
Oh, I found it on the Nexus! It's a really good one, too!

>>149926470
Why is New Vegas man Arcade Gannon and Fallout 3 man wearing extra high top Converse

>>149926603
What mod is it

So what are the most important skill points to level up early in a new NV run?

>>149926835
Speech
Science
Lockpick

>>149926080
>>149925963
And the main villain will be the evil raider boss, Ronald Trent, who wants to erect a fence around Nuka World, and vows to "make amusement grand again".

Bravo Pagliarulo

>>149925752
>raider girl
Zero chance. It would be too similar to Cait. If it's a raider it will 100% guaranteed be a dude.

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>>149926825
I'd tell you, but I'd have to kill you!

>>149927181
K

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>no matter how much you fuck with the picket fences in Sanctuary you can NEVER put them back together right

>>149926825
I found out what it was just to save you the trouble of dealing with this autist.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16269/?

It's also on Bethesdas website if you care.

Seeking mod recommendations for (NV):

interior lighting
&
skybox texture, is Enhanced Skies any good?

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>>149927298
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16269/?

;0

>>149927451
>no leveled list
>only got by spawning with console
It's shit.

SHIT!

>>149927527
Are you talking to a tiger in that screenshot?

WHY IS BOSTON FULL OF ORCS

>>149927742
Because Boston is really Middle Earth

>>149927742
Because fuck you

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>Picked Non Ref AV Object :^)
HOW DO I GET RID OF THIS FUCKING MEMEING PIECE OF SHIT FENCE?

>>149927527

Put on a trip so I can fucking filter you.

Fucking faggot.

>>149927104
Gage doesn't sound like a dude's name

How do we fix the "Assault Rifle", /fog/?

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>bethesda will never learn how to make cities bigger than two blocks and remake Diamond City completely
So much potential ;_;

>>149927996
Name it Machine Gun

>>149925023
that's probably the worst reimagining of the pig armor I've ever seen

>>149927996

Have its automatic fire variants produce less recoil or something? There doesn't seem to be much difference between it and the Combat Rifle save for the hueg clip sizes.

>>149927104
Someone was doing some digging in the CK the other day and found the name Gage in relation to companion affinity. Plus Cait drops the drugs with her companion quest and is generally more of a cunt than a raider.

Also a female raider companion would contrast with Preston.

>>149928069
How do we fix the "Machine Guh", /fog/?

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Alright, playing around with custom scripts. Got any ideas for cool legendary effects?

And how would you balance this anchor thing. I dunno if it's too strong, or literally unusable.

>>149927939
Console. Or download spring cleaning or something

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>>149928049
>bethesda will never learn how to make cities bigger than two blocks and remake Diamond City completely
Did you forget vivec and The Imperial City?

they stopped doing it because all anyone did was bitch about having to walk everyone, getting lost, and not being able to find shit even with the quest marker.

All a larger diamond City would be is more NPcs with no names you cant interact with, and some more buildings stacked on top of each other that you can't do go in

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>>149927979
I want to kiss my waifu on the anus!

>>149928146
Same way you fix all automatic guns, make is shoot something other than sharpened matchsticks at the enemy.

so if organic synths need dna to make

where did the institute get their gorilla dna

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>>149928049

Sometimes, I wonder if Bethesda released the settlement system so they can look at potential future town designers to hire, or so they can rip off designs for towns in future games.

Seriously, some of the settlements that people create in FO4 put the default towns to shame.

>>149928204
Probably great against enemies that can't block. But theoretically a level 1 raider with a knife could take zero damage from that thing.

>>149928128
>>149927982
That's a raider name though and they just take any old scrap/weapon related word. "Gage" could be a guy's name as easily as "Slag" or "Clutch" could be a girl's name.

>>149928049
Bethesda does know how to make them. However the bigass cities in their previous titles got more than a little flak and with bethesda's use of non-static clutter and persistent npcs with schedules and shit would set consoles on fire and if they didn't, you'd just get lost and have a shitton of pointless npcs that just fill space

>>149928216
You're a bit of a retard aren't you? People didn't like Vivec and the imperial city because they were bland, cookie-cutter, copy pasted piece of shit cities, not because they were big, which they weren't either, by the way.

You ought to just kill yourself to be honest.

>>149928323
I bet that shit runs at 1 FPS on a god tier comptuer

>>149928204
If you could make it crush through blocks somehow, it would be perfect.

>>149928323
Imagine if Bethesda's cities looked fucking half as alive and interesting as that.

>>149928385
>not because they were big, which they weren't either, by the way.
There were ltierally entire pages of threads with the single complaints of
Its too big, and I can't find anything.

The DIVERSITY of the Imperial Cities district was one of the few things actually praised about it.

>>149928146
Increase firing rate, bump up damage, slow movement speed while firing, add scripts for suppressing AI.

>>149925252
It's the other way around nowadays, /v/ hates the shallowness of Fo3 and Fo4
Waifu cancer killed this general

>>149928539
>Imagine if Bethesda's cities looked fucking half as alive and interesting as that.
that doesn't even look interesting, it simply looks dumb.

theres so much wrong with it design wise it makes Megaton look well designed.

>>149928554
>There were ltierally entire pages of threads with the single complaints of "Its too big, and I can't find anything."
That's a byproduct of BAD DESIGN, not because it's large. God you're a fucking retard. You're so fucking stupid. I mean, you're so fucking stupid that I can't even believe how fucking stupid you are. I'm seriously left wondering how a person can get so fuckign stupid. It's like, don't you think? You got a brain, right? Don't you use it, you sack of shit? Can't you form a coherent thought in your brain you fucking imbecile? You fucking retarded imbecile, you? Fuck you, you fucking dumbass. Get a fucking clue while you're at it, you fucking boner. Fuck you, you fucking boner. Get a clue.

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>>149925023
>people seriously think any of the FO3 Enclave armors are better than glorious X-01

>>149928694
>tfw got lost in megaton during my first playthrough
It's such an awful city. Town. Village?

>>149928694
Todd maybe you'd make games we enjoy if you didn't waste your time shitposting here

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What Fallout town would you prefer to live in yourself?

>>149928694
I'd ask you to go into more detail but you'd just make up some excuse or say something like "durr it's obvious why" and not expand on it at all like the FAGGOT you are.

>>149928801
Not even him, but how the fuck do you get lost in Megaton?

>>149928367

This

I like Diamond City simply because all the merchants are in one place near the entrance

I'd like Bunker Hill even more than DC if all the merchants were always there

>>149928904
Shady Sands (NCR Rise era)
Goodsprings
Primm

>>149928904
Westside

>>149928930
Everything's green and grey.
On your first playthrough, nothing looks distinguishable.

>>149928504
That's possible, but the problem is it would be extremely buggy and hard to utilize. Bethesda implemented an item HP system for static structures, but it's really hard to actually use because they didn't actually apply it to any of the items in game.

>>149928323
True, but that's the risk with all melee weapons, really.

>>149928764

One wonders if the X-01 is even the PA that the Enclave uses in FO2. There's some visual similarities, but it seems like the Enclave armor has some minor differences in the helmet and looks sleeker and more compact.

But aside from that, I agree. Having a sleek, streamlined and alien-looking PA really helped hammer in that the Enclave were operating on a completely different tech level and ideological level than anyone else in the wasteland.

>>149928904
Now that I think about it NV and Fo2 towns are the only livable ones


Really makes you think

>learning Jericho could be a companion years after you stop playing Fallout 3
I just thought he was a mopey dick.

Why would anybody even bother with being evil.

>>149929091
I mean more like deal damage even if any enemy blocks, not break whatever they're blocking with. Maybe some knockbacks/staggers would work?

>>149929180
I just modded out the karma restrictions. Fuck you game you aren't keeping any companions from me.

>>149928924
Actually I will go into detail
1. There's too many ramps/staircases, its not very well designed for quick movement anywhere.

2. Shit is so stacked on each other, and on poor supports, that the entire city should be one strong breeze away from collapsing.

3. The statues put on top of the towers shouldn't be able to be supported by how flimsy the wood is.

4. The same is true of that vertbird landing spot

5. the towers aren't placed in spot that are actually useful for spotting things, and they are far too open/exposed to be homes.

6. Theres a barn on the right hand side sitting so high off the ground you can't even actually use the main entrance for anything

The list goes on, everything about is designed to be
>FOR DE KEWLS!
but as a functioning city its actually kinda bad.

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>Fallout will probably become TES-tier shallow

>>149927472

Interior Lighting Overhaul, and Realistic Wasteland Lighting Enhanced.

>>149929339
Ohh yeah, on top of all that, theres no central market, which would make shopping or buying anything in the city a massive waste of time

>>149929339
You make some fair points, to be honest. Maybe you're not a faggot after all.

>>149927472
Fellout
Jsawyer
Project Nevada (Minus the rebalance module if you're gonna use Jsawyer)
Poco Bueno textures, or the high res one if your pc can handle it
NMC's textures

the rest :
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PXoYBg2bdanMbqN1VsCTcFnqAUl4pww307VgVugGi7c/edit?pli=1#

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So (to no surprise), Emogene failed to spawn during the cabot quest. Am I good to just pop her in via console, or is the whole thing done now

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>>149929378

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Did anyone else just stop putting lights into their vault? The way lights work is way too annoying.

>put long light on ceiling
>makes a bit of light right under it
>everything that's 2 meters or more away from the light is almost completely dark with the most abrupt transition
>even objects placed directly under the light will often be way too dark due to weird shadows

>>149930085
Rocka rolla

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>>149930085
rolling

>>149927341
An issue of "picket fences" let's you build picket fences, although they are probably still fucked up.

>>149930085
>not posting the FO4 version

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>>149929857
I have an issue where light would 'leak' through gaps in vault pieces where they snap together and just look weird and/or spooky.

>>149929443
Okay but does the realistic wasteland lighting make night time impossible to see in?? I dont want it if it does

>>149927742
because we /warhammer/ now
its been like that since FO3
I don't really care desu I don;t know how its un lorefriendly for there to be fev in places outside of mariposa, surely vault tec could have been shady enough to get samples in a vault, and surely prewar MIT would have access to samples as well, and given how they're retarded due to irradiated wastelanders being the subjects like the dumb dumbs out west

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>>149930301
>Fo4

>Roleplay

>>149929630

You gotta do some shit with the console to advance the quest manually. I think the Fallout wiki has some info on how to do just that. Just spawning in Emogene didn't work for me.

>>149930301

>not posting the FO4 version in retaliation

>>149930319
Light leaked through the corner piece because the wall that's catching it doesn't know there's a wall blocking it.

It's such a problem in development that I'm surprised Bethesda didn't see it coming. Or they did and just didn't care.

>>149930360
But simply putting Fev in a closed space with people isn't enough to create muties

Dipping is an art

>>149929857

Frankly, it's a pain in the ass even with modded lights.

I had to resort to hiding the Wasteland Workshop streetlights in vault columns. For what it's worth, it works pretty well since it also emits a huge amount of ambient light that dispels most of the dark spots in wide open areas.

There's also a few new mods on the nexus that greatly increase the light radius of the flourescent lights added in with the Vault-Tec DLC. It might be worth checking out.

>>149930360
Actually, its stated in Fallout 4 that MiT didn't have it, and The Institute only got it post-war, likely from Vault 87 given the similarities between Institute and V87 super mutants

>>149927002
You realize Trump's brother is on the Zenimax board of directors, right? There won't be any allusions to RW politics, aside from the usual cultural marxist bullshit that makes minorities feel relevant.

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This game is pretty fun

>>149930843
When the fuck do you find power armor in FOS? I've had a few dwellers out for nearly two days and found no legendary stuff.

>>149930940
10 Luck and lots of searching or just get lucky with lunchboxes.

Or you can be a bitch and edit your savefile.

>>149928385

Vivec is the biggest city I've seen in

- Morrowind
- Skyrim
- Fallout 3
- Fallout: New Vegas

And apparently, Fallout 4. Vivec IS big. It's huge. And every places is accessible, because Morrowind is a game from a time when if you saw a building, you could enter it.

Only the Fallout games, for some reason, have this "oh, see that building, too bad the door is boarded up" bullshit.

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>>149930940
Just craft it

>Institute cancels cybernetics/human enhancement research because it "goes down a dark path to losing one's humanity"
>While at the same time kidnapping thousands and thousands of people for over 100 years and making them super mutants
>Creates organic robot slaves that are completely indistinguishable from people and are superior to humans in every way and possess sentience
>Kidnaps and murders people and replaces them with synths for the tiniest of purposes, such as testing crops on the surface

Why does it feel like the institute was written by 5 different people who never collaborated a single time during development

>>149930818
Not him, but you realize theres a lot of ultra rich fgts on Zenimax's board of directors, all of whom have many differing political idea;s?

You are also aware that the board of directors doesn't actually fucking DO anything in regards to how the company functions? they just rake in the profit.

I honestly doubt Trump's borther even KNOWS thes on the board for the company that made fallout.

I doubt he even knows what Fallout is

>>149928328
Gage is a Middle English word.

It can refer to a "token of defiance" as in "throwing the gauntlet" to challenge someone.

Or it can refer to a guarantee of good faith. In a modern context, a physical collateral that you put up against a loan.

>>149930818
>cultural Marxist bullshit that makes minorities feel relevant

Angry white boy detected

What would a Pedophile run through look like? Asking for a friend

>>149931136
Why didn't they just use mr handys

>>149931136
The synth program was long in development before Shawn became the director and the cybernetics program was scrapped after he became director.

>>149931089
>Only the Fallout games, for some reason, have this "oh, see that building, too bad the door is boarded up" bullshit.
Thats because they take place in the ruins of large metropolis's and trying to make every building enterable would require some Daggerfall level random generation


>>149931136
Because you apparently dont understand the fact that the Institute doesn't see the people on the surface as humans.

Also, the FEv experiments were done to perfect strains of FEV to make synths

>>149931295
Very boring seeing as how children do nothing in the games.

>>149931295
In FO4 the Brotherhood of Steel make you drag a kid around the wasteland.

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>>149931089
Big cities in Bethesda games take time to make

>>149929857
I have electric lights in a couple of areas. Everything else is fire barrels and lanterns. Going for a metro vibe in my deliberately half finished vault.

>>149931350
>>149931358
What was the point of giving them sentience?

>>149931556
'mankind redefined'

>>149931556
>What was the point of giving them sentience?
The Institute didn't "give" them sentience, and several scientists outright say the IDEA that synths believe they have it is an error they are trying to correct.

>>149931635
But why?

>>149931295
Why don't you step in that cryo pod over there

>>149931635
>>149931723
Then why do they still escape instead of the institute fixing them?

xonees
i have your die but the post office wouldnt let me send. itll be in the mail tomorrow

>>149931848
>Then why do they still escape instead of the institute fixing them?
Because The Institute doesn't know why it keeps happening, and all of their attempts to fix them thus far have failed.

Are you really this simple minded or something?

Not to be rude, but all of these questions sound like something a child would ask.

>>149931848
http://www.livescience.com/55164-russian-robot-escapes-lab-again.html

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>>149931212
We'll see if there is any allusion to the US election in NW then, won't we. I'm saying no. Even if there was someone that wanted to inject personal political preferences into NW, marketing would kill it.

>>149931265
No, I'm just a racist that thinks he's objectively better than the majority of people of the planet, due to ethnicity and the culture I was born in to. Good for me.

>>149932030
I'm just curious. No need to get offended. Why don't they just shut them off for matinence? Or if they can't shut down all of them, have different groups experimented with at different times.

>>149931237

>>149931468
What would you know?

>>149932215
Wow that really DOES sound like a promotional stunt. any movement diagnostics can be run indoors and that this doesn't look like it can turn a door knob.

The Institute would have been better if they were a bunch of fucking stupid "tribal scientists" that have all become semi-retarded from generations of inbreeding

They are descendents of CIT, sure, but they are basically a giant science-based cargo cult that has no fucking clue what they are doing or why they are doing it.

They wear all the proper ritual garb of their scientist ancestors such as lab coats and goggles but don't fully comprehend the impacts of their actions and just operate based on "prophecies" from the ancestor scientists who left behind research objectives and mission statements that the descendents venerate, such as "mankind redefined"

No clue how to work Captain Crunch and Shaun into this idea though.

>>149932545
so basically point lookout but with nerds, right

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>>149932454
Made several big cities in Bethesda games. Heck, I think the biggest city, mod or otherwise, was Sotha Sil in SSE.
They take time.

>>149932285
>Why don't they just shut them off for matinence?
Because synths aren't normal robots, you can't just turn them off and edit
>SynthAIsentiance = 1
to
>SynthAIsentiance = 0
And then have it all be fixed.

Also, the number of synth escapes has traditionally been really low. if you look at the Railraod archives which go back like 20 years, the number of run escapes is like 20.

Its literally not that big of a deal, or a massive problem.

Back in 2267 5 synth escapees was considered half a years worth of synths to the Railraod because its just that few

>>149925023
The Hellfire armor didn't look that good to begin with, but damn. That just looks so... plain. Like something you'd find in any other game with powered armor.

>>149932632
yes

>>149931848
because the janitor is fucking around with the synths. setting them free and the whole courser chasing and railroad shenanigans is his entertainment.

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mods are dead

>>149933272
>not even sexy clothing mods
FO4 is ded

>>149932698
Yes you can. What about the shutdown code.Another question. When their minds are wiped,why aren't they set to blank. They obviously have enough intelligence to walk around so why not rig them to explode or shut down.

On the Railroad's computers which go back to 2266, there have been a total of 66 known synths escapes in the last 21 years.

That an average of 3.14 a year.

And most of those synth escapes were in the last few years when Liam started helping synths escape

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>>149933272
>bodyslide
>bodyslide
>bodyslide
>ddp
Ew.

>>149933330
>Yes you can.
No you cannot, this it directly stated in-game. You cannot just get rid of it.

>What about the shutdown code
that just shuts them down.


>When their minds are wiped,why aren't they set to blank.
They are, however, is stated that their personalities have a problem with resurfacing.

Glory says a synth she knows got mind wiped back to 0 like 6 times, and each new personality she got became just as stubborn as the last.

>>149933272
Didn't Darren quit?

>>149933385
Is the railroad necessary for this? Is a faction solely focused on 3 Synths average escaping a year.

So what exactly is karma in New Vegas and does it matter?

>>149928049


It's got nothing to do about learning, it's got to do with the games having to work on shitbox and toaststation consoles.

If they could've just gone balls deep and developed for high end pc specs you would've seen cities at Withcer 3 scale.

So is Dogmeat some freelance dog detective or something

Cause he has no owner yet is trained well in tracking, and is the only purebred dog in the Commonwealth

Nick mentions working with him in the past and Dogmeat seems to have some renown, and Nick is not his owner

And Dogmeat is 100% essential for the main quest and cannot be skipped at all

>>149933621
>you would've seen cities at Withcer 3 scale.
and just as cardboard as Witcher 3's as well.

>>149933597
to be fair, the notes do skip some periods of like 5 years were they likely helped more escape, which would make the averages higher.

>>149933621
If consoles weren't holding us back, we'd probably have a game map 5 times as large, with more complex, diverse content for a thinking man.
We'd have improved game balance, deep moral consequences, important desicions, expanded lore.
What do we get thanks to consoles? Dumbed down wasteland minecraft.
Thanks gaystation, thanks shitbox.

>>149933542
>No you can't
Why does it work on synth Shaun then?
>That just shuts them down
Which is why it should have been used in case of them escaping instead of wiping their minds. If they shut them down they could experiment on them too.
>Personalities resurface
That doesn't make sense. That doesn't happen to humans.

>>149933849
>deep moral consequences
Na, devs have simply no desire to do this after it become so "normal" for games to have "consequences" that all important issues had already been done, and then the whole thing just became pretentious bullshit.

>>149930843
>doing the quest to find Preston Garvey
>already have him in my vault

>>149933928
>Why does it work on synth Shaun then?
It shut him down, it didn't totally mind wipe him.

>Which is why it should have been used in case of them escaping instead of wiping their minds. If they shut them down they could experiment on them too.
the codes require someone to speak them, if a synth sneaks out, who is there to issue the verbal code?

>That doesn't make sense. That doesn't happen to humans.
And synths aren't humans, they are FEV abominations made from human DNA and implanted with robotics.

>>149930843

E N C L A V E

>>149933964
Even so, we'd have a game far, far more complex, deep and impressive. Far more expansive, far larger, more immersive, less hand holdy, more difficult and challenging. Less of a power fantasy.
Consoles are truly just a shackle that hold us back. We won't get anything good aslong as we're shackled to their weak, retarded shells.

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>>149934056
You can get quests to find legendary dwellers?

>>149934289
>Less of a power fantasy.
All RPGs are inherently power fantasy based.

Even the oldest RPgs had you become the super duper ultra special badass who saves the world from the greatest evil.

If they didn't you wouldn't have much to do in-game.

>>149934289

lmao get a load of this guy

>>149934097
>It shut him down
That's even better
>The code requires someone to speak it
Why not just have speakers on the inside and outside of their base or attach an audio device to their ear.
>They aren't human
Why are there exteriors metal then? Do they have functioning internal systems? And they should be considered alive if that's the case. Why did anyone think mixing all this shit together would be a good idea?

Vault-Tec DLC or Vault 88

I will make a Vault so fucking big that it connects all the sectors together.

I will have 100 settlers in it, too.

What should I have in the vault besides living quarters and cafeterias?

Huh
Fallout 4 has absolutely no colliding traps that I can see.
Like everything triggers some sort of explosion or similar, there's no spikes, or bear traps, or weird hanging spikes or anything.
This makes things harder.

>>149934940
>Why not just have speakers on the inside and outside of their base or attach an audio device to their ear.
Because synths are sent outside to collect resources and shit?

You are even told by Liam that he forges fake work orders to get synths who want to escape out. To the Institute, they are just sending synths out on typical resource collection jobs, and then they run away.

Its not like all synths are meant to remain indoors.

And veen if they were, did you forget the Institute's only entrance is a teleporter that can teleport anywhere in the Commonwealkth? Its not like theres some door the Institute can just place speakers on the other side of constantly spamming every synths recall code in case they get out.

Seriously, have you played the game? nothing about that question makes sense.

>Why are there exteriors metal then?
They aren't? Gen 3 synths are flesh

>Do they have functioning internal systems?
Yes

>And they should be considered alive if that's the case.
No one said they weren't alive, onlythat they were sentiant.

>Why did anyone think mixing all this shit together would be a good idea?
Because gen 3 sytnhs are biologically immortal, immune to disease and age, and don't require food or sleep, they are THE perfect workforce that can do everything without ever breaking down.

>>149934097
>>149934940
Also, I don't think you can put a bunch of DNA in a metal goo and create robots and sentient life.

>>149934345
You can find settlers in the wasteland, I just started the Preston quest, but I assume he'll show up

>>149935229
Multi Story Arcade, Multi Story bars, Multi Story Gymnasiums, Multi Story Casino, indoor zoo, synth factory

>>149935328
What about the traps in the Wasteland Workshop dlc?

>>149935414
Then why not just use robots. There's no reason not to considering they can do all those things and sentient life has been created before in fallout.

>>149935328
bear traps are in FH, have not tried to drop active traps in a cell.

most traps are proximity triggers or trigger upon opening a door or container. there are those boards that break, if you want to cover a pit with them.

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>want to build a vault
>have to use the dirty vendor stalls

>>149935576
Which I don't have.
The problem is I have several instances where a train has the chance to hit a player. I need some way to damage them.

>>149935608
Have you SEEN the robots i nthe Fallout unvierse anon?

>Constantly break down
>Need to be refueled
>Can't move worth a shit
>Can't recognize that the war has happened 99% of the time
>even if they do, they get stuck in now pointless tasks forever since no one is around to issue them commands.

Synths have none of those problems.

They are the perfect workforce that requires no human oversight.

>>149935328
The trap room is pretty sparse. There are tripwires and firearm traps though.

>>149935724
>They are the perfect workforce that requires no human oversight.
or at least wont once the "running away" problem gets fixed.

>>149935571
Fuck it, I decided to make something like Vault City.

>>149935724
Why not kill a synth and copy and paste the autonomy and putting an A.I in there.

>>149935881
Synths are AI.

Or do you mean the same shit like Mr handyes have? Because Mr Handys lack AI, which is why codsworth and Curie get stuck in tasks all the time.

A personality matrix =/= ai.

>>149935809
Exactly, and the physical trap script, as far as I can tell, is unused and from Skyrim.

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>>149934424
unless you're doing Tomb of Horrors, in which case you're a "super duper ultra-special badass"... Who dies in a pathetically hilarious way because they couldn't let go of their own personal vices and pride and realize sticking your hand in random holes is a fucking stupid idea.

>>149924550
So, continuing a bit of a discussion from the last thread: did Bethesda really take the Retro-futurism thing too far in the aesthetic?

Or did Black Isle not take enough advantage of it?

One of the things that bugs the shit out of me with a lot of Bethesda's weapon designs is that they don't seem to implement that fact that the guns they're basing their weapons on in FO4 would have been over a hundred years old by the time the bombs fell, and in the case of the 'assault rifle' more than ONE HUNDRED FIFTY.

Meanwhile, looking at a comparison of the TV-sets in the FO1 intro to the one seen in the homes of FO4 (and recalling more than a few pictures of some actual 1950's TV sets that did look like the ones you see in FO4) the latter actually does make a bit more sense.

Why in god's name would a society with the technological ability to realize their images of the future still be using the common design used over one hundred years ago?

Resource shortages, okay, sure. And there is also the whole bullshit both Black Isle and Bethesda keep trying to push about how we magically never could figure out colored displays for anything.

But if there's going to be that, why not retro-futuristic TVs with the separated monitor? Also, look at the designs for vehicles in the magazine page here. Does the plane or the car not look familiar? Probably saw some things like it in-game.

I guess I kind of lost my point a bit here, the more I type the more I think "fuck both Black Isle and Bethesda, Fallout needs a whole fucking reboot."

>>149936010
Curie and Zax seems pretty smart to me. I don't see what the problem is.

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>>149936168
Pre-synth curie even states she lacks the ability to think of truly new things because she is bound by her programming, which is the whole reason she wanted to be transferred into a synth in the first place. she even admits she cannot think for herself while a Mr Handy robot.

ZAX are not true AI either. Now, some of them did achieve true AI state on accident, like John Henry Eden, but ZAX are not themselves true AI.

IIRc, ZAX even mentions himself he is not a true AI

>>149936103
The retro look wasn't always turned up to 11 which is the way Bethesda did it. Black Isle did it for the irony of it so it's not too prevalent.

>>149936042
I mentioned the firearm trap because you can attach any firearm to it, presumably a modded one, too.

The trick would be to get it to fire on an interval. Then you could have a gun that shoots train bullets, possibly with a knockback/stagger effect to simulate physics.

Would that even work?

>>149936458
Yeah but it'd look weird. I'd rather figure out the physical trap anyway, for various reasons.

>>149936042
Weren't there traps that had I-beams attached to chains that swung down in FO3?

>>149936356
Henry Eden is a bad example.
But when she gets put in a synth brain she's free to think. So create a obedient to the institute robot A.I. and put it in a synth brain.

>>149936593
Fallout 3 is not Fallout 4. Looking at those scripts would be pointless anyway, Fallout 3 is very different from Fallout 4 and Skyrim.

>>149936745
Isn't such a trap just making the in-game physics engine do the damage with a colliding object?

>>149935709
Cant you make the train a physics object with mass? then have it attached to something else moving but not necessarily collidable?

Or attach an invisible collidable heavy physics object like a car or something to the train model, which you then make move? When the physics object hits the player it will probably kill them.

>>149936646
>Henry Eden is a bad example.
Not really, he is the only ZAX to have achieved self-awareness besides maybe the ACE from Fallout 2, who directly states hes not a true artificial intelligence, but then mentions he gets lonely sometimes.

>But when she gets put in a synth brain she's free to think
Which is the point.

>So create a obedient to the institute robot A.I. and put it in a synth brain.
And again, thats totally missing the whole point behind synths, which are to make artifical humanoid that can think for themselves to some degree as to avoid the problems of normal robot AI that gets caught in logical loops like Mr Handy robots do.

Like, at this point, I really just think your purposefully asking the same dumb questions over and over, no one can be this thick skulled or retarded without it being a troll.

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Waht the fuck, help

>>149936889
Collision is handled differently in FO4.

>>149936919
Or getting stuck walking in walls as a terminal in the Institute states.

>>149936587
the only 'moving' trap I can think of is the Buzzsaw trap that runs along a track from WW.

>>149936889
Right, which is what I'm trying to figure out. There has to be scripts and triggers put in place for this, it's not as simple as it seems.
It doesn't help that collision layers aren't something I can access anymore. In Skyrim I could figure out or turn something into a trap (the minecarts in Wheels of Lull), but I have nothing to go off of or look at right here.

>>149936906
Also won't work. Currently the train is attached to an animated track, which would ignore those weight properties.
I essentially need a sideways elevator that kills you.

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>>149936440
>Black Isle did it for the irony
>did it for the irony
>making aspects of a setting ironic

You know... The more I hear about Black Isle's work with Fallout, the more I think I wouldn't enjoy Fallout 1 or 2 anymore than I enjoy 4 or 3. Which is to say: fun, but filled with glaring fucking pet peeves of mine when writing.

Spoilering a highly autistic and faggoty rant.

You don't make aspects of a setting 'ironic'. Who the fuck builds an entire society 'ironically'? Do people think when Southern plantation owners built their Antebellum, neoclassic mansions they thought "oh, this lovely alabaster white and greco-roman inspired architecture contrasts marvelously with the slave houses and the niggers being brutally beaten out in the open"?

No, they did it because it showed off their wealth and status, they saw themselves as the peak of American society and culture and black people as slaves were extensions of that. That they were giving them purpose and meaning. That's ironic when you look at it from an outsider's perspective, not when you're the one building the whole thing up.

H.G. Wells' stories were written almost entirely as social commentary and he had the god given sense not to write parts of his setting as 'ironic'.

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I have CBBE, Glorious Female Nude Mod CBBE Edition and Wasteland Ink -Player Tattoo- Ink Junkie installed and it looks like this. Any suggestions on what might be going wrong?

>>149935694

Just get some vendor mods my dude

Clean Vendor Stalls
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16785/?

or
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9758/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/8621/?

>>149937101
not the guy you were talking to, but it honestly don't sound like Fallout is the series for you.

Fallout is literally built around shitty parodies and self references to everything from Mad Max and a boy and his dog, to 50s retro futurism.

Its ALL ironic.

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>>149936103
Black Isle used it as simple background lore and commentary showing the irony of actions.

Bethesda turned it up to 11 because they have no real understanding of the themes. This is why they rehash the waterchip and throw in all the bible references and symbolism.

>>149937101
I should amend that H.G. Wells didn't write his stories and the settings within to be ironic from an in-universe stand point. War of the World's was highly ironic because the mighty British Empire was getting their asses kicked by an invading force with superior technology.

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>>149931468

It takes time to make when you are making scripted things and try to make every part of your city unique, like yours. But making random interiors shouldn't be too complex.

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>>149937250
>tfw your on ps4

>>149937063
Just get the WW with the traps. It's like 5 bucks. You can spare that.

Hell, I paid that much to get some train sounds. Surprisingly hard to find low-static rips of train wheels.

>>149937204

This always happens to me until I batch build everything in bodyslide and I don't know why.

>>149936919
>Henery Eden isn't a bad example
>Can you kill yourself please
>Oh... I suppose your right. Very well.

>The point is to make artificial humans that can think for themselves to some degree
House did this without them running away.
Why don't they just storm the rest of the wasteland if they have such a large army? Most are clearly living in slums and there are only five towns. What's the point in securing all these important political leaders if they can just take over?

Is it worth the deathclaw attacks to go up to 100 dwellers for the nuka cola bottler or should I just plan up to 80 for gardens and water purification?

>>149937389
>Bethesda turned it up to 11 because they have no real understanding of the themes.
This meme again.

>This is why they rehash the waterchip and throw in all the bible references and symbolism.
Or, you know, becuase a massive part of Fallout has always been the idea that war never changes, that humans keep making the same mistakes over and over.

Which would make everything that happens some form of symbolism to an event that already occured

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>>149933619

An arbitrary measurement of good and evil.

My character has Very Evil karma. Mostly because I can't stop stealing shit. Meaning I have the same Karma has a mass murderer.

>>149937101
>>149937304
He said what I was going to say. Don't be a faggot.

>>149937520
>House did this without them running away.
House did no such thing. House has ZERO AI under his command.

Do you know what AI is?

>Why don't they just storm the rest of the wasteland if they have such a large army?
Because the surface is a radioactive hellhole that want to avoid.

>What's the point in securing all these important political leaders if they can just take over?
To make sure the people of the surface couldn't possibly rally against them and destroy their hugbox

>>149937565
thinking of it that way, even Obsidian/Chris supports this since in NV a huge issue with all the factions is that they're repeating past mistakes.

House is trying to preserve his ideas of Pre-war America.

NCR is making the mistakes of pre-war American government.

Legion... Is pretty obvious since they wear it with pride.

And even Yes Man ending, in which nothing changes, basically means you're repeating the mistakes of the present.

>>149937565
But men do, through the roads they walk.
There's no reason for the games to have the same plot and problems every single time.

>>149937774
This WAS the whole point behind NV's narrative, each of the major factions are some expy of a failed pre-war government, that are failing post-war for the same reasons.

>>149937718
I'm pretty sure victor counts. House said he can't control him once outside a certain range.
>Radioactive hellhole
Synths are immune to radiation and should bet equipped enough to take on a lot of the shit thrown at them in the wasteland
>To make sure they won't rally
I'm pretty sure a lot of people are suspicious of the mayor in diamond city so they did a pretty shit job at remaining inconspicuous.

>>149937774
That's the point. They're all flawed. Rehashing a plot is not the same as this

>>149925023
>Chinese Stealth Suit

Yes please

I want it in NV style, where it doesn't give you game ruining invisibilty

>>149937101

Interplay did.

The entire Fallout 1 intro is ironic. You have this wonderful world where a robot can walk the fucking dog, then the camera pans out and shows that perfectly advanced society is now ashes.

Bethesda doesn't get Fallout. Fallout 3 completely missed the point of the series, and the intro is the best way to notice that. It goes on and on about war, flames, bombs, it's such a sad place to live, and so on, whereas NV starts like "the world was fire, yes, but is now rebuilding".

It's like >>149937389 says.

>>149935571
>Multi Story everything

Has anyone discovered the secret to making a multi-level cafeteria using the standard room parts?

I really feel like vault builders are limited to Atrium parts if they want to build fancy multi-level areas.

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>>149937878
To be fair, while parallels can be drawn between FO3's water plotline and FO1 AND 2's, there's still differences due to the people involved, no?

So the point does stand.

>>149937973
it does cast a sort of gloomy light on FO4's own endings when you think about it that way.

>Institute won't actually provide a new future for the Commonwealth
>Nor the Railroad
>Nor the Brotherhood
>And any the MM might make won't outlive you

>>149937304
So in that sense, what right do people have to say if Bethesda is honestly worse at handling Fallout than Black Isle besides maybe gameplay mechanic choices?

Storywise, it's all going to be ironic, wink-at-the-camera, cyclic plot narrative.

>>149938404
Thank you. You explained it better than I could.

>>149938180
Victor is not an AI, no more then a Mr Handy is.

A Mr Handy can go well outside your ability to remotely control it, but still be bound by programming.

>Synths are immune to radiation and should bet equipped enough to take on a lot of the shit thrown at them in the wasteland
Yes, but the radioactivity is why the HUMANS of the Institue don't care about the surface. They built synths to be radiation immune so they aren't effected by it, but the actual people avoid it at all costs, and have nmo desire to go up there because of it.

>I'm pretty sure a lot of people are suspicious of the mayor in diamond city so they did a pretty shit job at remaining inconspicuous.
It wasn't about remaining inconspicuous, it was abut inserting deep divided in the community so that people can't really togeather. Which is why the mayor got the ghouls thrown out i nthe first place, to divide the community.

Where the hell did you even get this inconspicuous crap from? did you think yo were subtly changing the goalposts or something?

>>149938450
The difference being there's no real consequence for not doing it. In the first one. You have a time limit. You fail, game over. In F3, there's no tension so nobody cares. I don't even remember that many people even caring about it.

>>149938404
Okay, thank you, the way you put it made sense.

>>149938404
> It goes on and on about war, flames, bombs, it's such a sad place to live, and so on, whereas NV starts like "the world was fire, yes, but is now rebuilding".
You ignore that Fallout 1 and 2's intros were the same as Fallout 3's.

and by this fact it was New Vegas that missed the point

FNV isn't even a real Fallout

>>149938774
1, 2 and NV the world is rebuilding. Out of the ashes of civilization came a new world.

>>149938774
Now, not him, but not quite.

Maybe it's not said so in the intro. But FO2's ending, at least the good one, clearly highlights how the wastelands were rebuilding.

To the point where I feel like FO2 should have been chronologically the last Fallout game, it gives the honest impression the days of the Wastelands are numbered and soon society is going to completely rebuild.

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>decorating vault
>finish my entire clinic
>took 2 hours
>delete something in the workshop
>game crashes to desktop with crash report

oh my godffffffffedhghdghjgkikgljk/ why didnt i save

>>149938615
>It's not in houses control but is still bound by programming
So like a better synth.
>Radioactivity
I also said they should be equipped to take on the wasteland
>To divide community
There are 5 towns. It wouldn't be that hard to take over with a small army. It's just a waste of time doing this.
Learn to spell btw

>>149939023
*with no crash report* i meant fuck

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>>149938948
funny thing is, FO4 seems like it's trying to say the same thing too... Or rather say it's the player's job to rebuild a new world.

Kind of annoying you're the only person to do it but, hey, I've had a building itch I've wanted to scratch since City of Heroes closed.

>>149938903
Kill yourself, Todd, the only good game you were responsible for was Morrowind.

>>149938948
And what did we learn in New Vegas?

That In 200 years time the overwhelming majority of the states of Nevada, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana had developed literally nothing more then primitive spear chucking tribal groups,with one or two small towns like New Canaan and Two0sun, and even then Raul says Two-Sun was so bad you couldn't trade two miles down the raod becuase it was so think with raiders.

On the other hand the east coast had made Diamond City, Megaton, established trade routes hundreds of miles long, by land and sea, both within their own local wastelands, and between the major wastelands like the Capital Wasteland and The Commonwealth.

On top of that, most every town had some form of water purifier, there was established hydroponics in places like Rivet City, and farming in places like Diamond City, and on top of all that, the people of these wasteland had survived anywhere from 100-200 years of near endless super mutant hordes, larger then the masters, without utterly collapsing like the West Coast does if their super magical Gary Stu Vault Dweller doesn't save their ass in Fallout 1.

New Vegas quite literally showed that the east coast was miles more devloped and civlized then any place in the post-War U.S. besides the NCR.

>>149936646
>So create a obedient to the institute robot A.I. and put it in a synth brain.
Because if you put an obedient AI into a synth brain it would gain the ability to reason and wouldn't necessarily stay obedient.

>>149939395
what do you expect from Commifornians?

they were sitting around waiting for gibsmedats

>>149939057
>So like a better synth.
No since Victor can't make decision or adapt to any situation like a synth can.

>I also said they should be equipped to take on the wasteland
Which, again, they have no reason to do since their base is far more well off.

>There are 5 towns. It wouldn't be that hard to take over with a small army. It's just a waste of time doing this.
They don't WANT to take over though.

>Learn to spell btw
Ahh yes they "I can't refuse the arguments so I am going to mock the anon's spelling"

Real great way to prove you are running out of ways to backpedal and move goalposts.

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>using journal mod to write entries giving Nate's thoughts on all the companions
>can't think of anything to write for Dogmeat because he doesn't have any established history beyond being a dog

Fallout Canonocity Rating:

Fallout Shelter > Brotherhood of Steel > FO4 > Tactics > FO3 > FO2 > FO1 > Lionheart > Chrono Trigger > Nuka Break > FNV

>>149937774
>in which nothing changes
Not necessarily true. One could argue that Yes Man's ending is a literally "wild card," which the player can interpret how they see fit. The ending slides are defined by action, but whatever comes next exists in the realm of headcanon (doubly so with DLC endings.)

>>149939395
The thing is the west coast has the largest nation but everything outside of it is still a backwater. The east coast has more independent places which are mostly if not entirely self-sufficient, it's just that no governing faction has yet arisen to unite them. As far as I know there's only one known attempt at that on the EC (the CPG) and it collapsed right out of the gate due to infighting. Maybe the Minutemen will become that faction.

>>149937479
This worked, man. Thank you

>>149939883
>Maybe the Minutemen will become that faction.
I doubt it.

The Minutemen show no plans for expansionism or conquest, outside The Commonwealth, they simply want to make the status quo less shitty by killing off the raiders, super mutants and ferals.

They are really no more likely to form a nation then the Maxson BoS is, though they may indirectly help a nation rise by removing the biggest problems preventing them from forming, like the Maxson BoS does with its crusades to kill all mutants, and ferals.

>>149939667
That's the weird part, it seems implied dog meat does have a history, including a name. If you believe mama murphy too, then there's the implication you didn't really find him, but he found you. He was waiting for you and you specifically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZgR4sIz4WM

Neat, just like my anniemays

>>149939667
He is a freelance dog detective, local legend, and your spirit animal.

He figured you were having a ruff time and decides to help you out.

>>149937543
If you have good weapons deathclaws aren't even an issue.

You can feed like 100 dwellers with just two diners and water treatment though

>>149939491
Fair enough
>>149939652
>Victor can't make any decisions
He made the decision to back off when Benny and friends showed up
>They have no reason to be there
What's the point of fucking with them then? They could just use their own DNA if they wanted
>They don't want to take over
Then they can just take people by brute force. Organized raids.
>I'm losing the argument
I said it because it's true and you're an obnoxious faggot. I tried to be nice and civil but it turns out that 4fags are whining little shits that get mad when you point something out.
>>149939395
It's two small towns and one of the towns was stupid enough to build it around a bomb. The other ones in stadium. They're not that advanced if they couldn't have survived without a water purifier built by Gary sue Liam Nesson and freinds.

After playing for at least 300 hours I heard my character say "my arm...it's broken" after getting it crippled today. kinda strange.

also is it onlyjet and psycho that have the character say stuff when they take it? I've realised I haven't used any of the rare chems like xcell to have noticed.

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>>149940182

Dogemeat is a time travelling psyker dog

>>149940350
How good of weapons? 15-19 tactical junk jets suffice?

>>149940508
Sure. Just make sure you keep everyone healed up and put your high level dwellers higher up

>>149940434
>He made the decision to back off when Benny and friends showed up
House specifically says that "his combat algorithms determined the best course of action" or something like that. He didn't actively choose to back off, he did what his programming said to do.

>>149940182
A lot of people seem to interpret Mama Murphy's line to mean that Dogmeat was traveling with Preston's group and ran off to go find help when they were ambushed. Which makes some kind of sense considering you find him right outside Concord.

>>149940434
>He made the decision to back off when Benny and friends showed up
Literally basic problem solving any robot can make.

>What's the point of fucking with them then? They could just use their own DNA if they wanted
Actually they can't. Shaun states that after the war the members of CiT hid in the building's basement and got exposed to radiation.

That's why they had to kidnap him, because all of their DNA is partially corrupt from all the radiation damage their ancestors got immediately after the war.

>Then they can just take people by brute force. Organized raids.
Or they can reduce asset loss by being sneaky and just teleporing in a courser and kidnapping a few people that way.

>I tried to be nice and civil
By using strawmans and ad hominems?


>>149940434
> They're not that advanced if they couldn't have survived without a water purifier built by Gary sue Liam Nesson and freinds.
Except they DID survvie without it.

Megaton was over 100 years old by the time of Fallout 3.

the point of the purifier wasn't that people needed it to survive, its that the aggressive form of radiation in the Capital Wasteland area made large scale water purifier impossible, so people couldn't do anything but JUST survive.

Eden even goes over this on the radio
>

You're thirsty, aren't you America? Not for knowledge or power, no. I'm not speaking metaphorically. You're thirsty for clean, fresh water. Hmm? Water is the foundation of life. But here, in the Capital Wasteland, indeed the entire country, water is polluted. Irradiated. Deadly. Maybe you've got a makeshift purifier that cleans one glass of dirty water a day. Or you sip from an ancient faucet in an abandoned subway restroom. But that's not really living, is it? You're simply existing, America. Postponing death for a day or two.

>>149938774

And you ignore that Fallout 3 is the THIRD game in the franchise.

Going on about "war, flames, bombs" is beating a dead horse for far too long. And guess what happened? FO4 returned to it! In a long sequence about "muh destroyed world" and "war never changes" (repeated three times during the entire opening sequence, during the intro, once your character is looking at himself in the mirror, and another when looking at some shit in his bedroom).

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meh, good enough for now.

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Dose anyone here use Subtle ENB? The option to make a border under enbpostpass.fx is missing from the menu completely.

>Robbaz turned Starlight into a mountain and built a vault in there

Well fuck

>>149939395

>On the other hand the east coast had made Diamond City, Megaton

Shady Sands. Junktown. THE HUB. And every single other city and town in Fallout 1, for a start.

Caesar himself explained his Legion has its own cities too.

Also

>more devloped and civlized then any place in the post-War U.S.

Bethesda's take on post-war America is literally "either you are a mindless raider or a nice civilized person". Look at Fallout 3 and Fallout 4, that's literally all they know. You can't blame Black Isle and Obsidian for putting more thought into their games.

>>149930332

Not at all. It's kinda one of my issues with it: nights are darker, but still a bit bright.

>>149941285
>Shady Sands. Junktown. THE HUB. And every single other city and town in Fallout 1, for a start.
I like how you ignore the fact I said
>>149939395
> besides the NCR.
Of which, all of those cities are part of

>Caesar himself explained his Legion has its own cities too.
According to Sawyer the Legion does not make cities of its own, its just captured what small towns of non-tribals it comes across.

>Bethesda's take on post-war America is literally "either you are a mindless raider or a nice civilized person". Look at Fallout 3 and Fallout 4
Yes, because Ashur is a mindless raider, or a nice civilized person. Hes neither.

>>149940598
Nuclear reactors worth building or should I just stick to power plants?

>>149941285
The East coast did get assfucked much harder by the nukes, and there's pretty much fuckall to nuke in the midwest aside from maybe some missile silos and random shit because you got bored of targeting the coasts.

>>149941506
They are very much worth it

>>149940865
>That's why the had to kidnap him
Why the fuck did they kill everyone else?
>They can reduce asset loss
They don't give a shit about losing a few so why are they so worried about it?
>Strawman and adhome
When did I say that faggot?
>Megaton was 100 years old by fallout 3
Why has no one died of radiation poisoning?
>It wasn't an aggressive form of radiation
That's fucking stupid. They would died of radiation exposure before that. Even if they did evolve the original founders would have died.

>>149941761
No, you're stupid.

You're a dingus. A big, floppy dingus.

>>149941491

>I like how you ignore the fact I said besides the NCR

Because it's an arbitrary decision of yours.

"The East Coast is completely barbaric, aside from Diamond City and Megaton".

All of those cities I mentioned when on to become the NCR, but they existed as separate places beforehand.

>According to Sawyer the Legion does not make cities of its own, its just captured what small towns of non-tribals it comes across.

This is what Caesar says:

"We have cities of our own, but nothing compared to Vegas. Finally, my Legion will have its Rome."

Also, a town is a town. We don't know what Sawyer considers as towns, but I certainly don't consider any place in Fallout 3 as a "city".

>>149941535

>The East coast did get assfucked much harder by the nukes

Kind of a joke, but not really: this is literally what Bethesda wanted. They needed an absolute desolate landscape, and came up with this silly idea just to have that perfect S.T.A.L.K.E.R atmosphere.

>>149941865
No u
/v/ was right. /Fog/ is garbage. Fuck off faggot.

>>149941761
>Why the fuck did they kill everyone else?
Because they needed related DNA in case Shaun died, of which, only Nate/Nora could provide. Everyone else was useless to them, and keeping their pods on just drained more power.

>They don't give a shit about losing a few so why are they so worried about it?
Because losing a few =/= losing a lot.

>When did I say that faggot?
>when did I make an ad hominum
>calls me a faggot in the same sentence
You are clueless huh?

>Why has no one died of radiation poisoning?
Because the bomb doesn't produce enough radiation to irradiate anything besides shit directly touching it.

>That's fucking stupid. They would died of radiation exposure before that. Even if they did evolve the original founders would have died.
Do you fucking know anything about Fallout m8?

No seriously people get exposed to radiation daily and don't die unless its super high concentrations.

Fallout radiation =/= real world radiation, hence ghouls and mutant animals.

Just stop, your only embarrassing yourself at this point.

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>Nexus

>>149942003
>They needed an absolute desolate landscape, and came up with this silly idea
Wow it's almost like our capital and tons of important government and military facilities are located on the east coast.

>>149942003
>Because it's an arbitrary decision of yours.
No it isn't because, like I said originally, NEW VEGAS ITSELF stated that the NCR was an utterly unique entity, even in the west, and that everywhere else was just spear chucking tribals, or a few small towns so plagued with raiders they couldn't trade with anyone.

>All of those cities I mentioned when on to become the NCR, but they existed as separate places beforehand.
And we have Megaton, Rivet city, Underworld, Tenpenny Tower, Diamond City, Goodneighbor, Vault 81, Bunker hill, etc. etc.

>This is what Caesar says:
And here is what Saywer says
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Caesar%27s_Legion#cite_note-BCKD1-1

"Edward Sallow created Caesar's Legion as an imitation of the Roman Legion, but without any of the Roman society that supported the Roman Legion. I've written this before, but there are no optimates, no populares, no plebes, no equestrians, no patricians, no senate, no Rome. There's no right to private property (within the Legion itself). There's no civil law. There aren't even the ceremonial trappings of Roman society. Legates don't receive triumphs following a victory. No one in the Legion retires to a villa in Sedona... Caesar's Legion isn't the Roman Empire or the Roman Republic. It isn't even the Roman Legion. It's a slave army with trappings of foreign-conscripted Roman legionaries during the late empire. All military, no civilian, and with none of the supporting civilian culture."

>>149942373
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Caesar%27s_Legion#cite_note-Formspring-14
>"Even in ancient Rome's slave-based economy the majority of people weren't slaves. Is that the case with the Legion and is that what you wanted to show with additional Legion locations?


>The additional Legion locations would have had more traveling non-Legion residents of Legion territories. The Fort and Cottonwood Cove made sense as heavy military outposts where the vast majority of the population consisted of soldiers and slaves. The other locations would have had more "civilians". It's not accurate to think of them as citizens of the Legion (the Legion is purely military), but as non-tribal people who live in areas under Legion control.

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>>149942338
Do people really not see the alien correlation at all when making this?

>>149942338
looks like the stitched together leaf lady from nightmare before christmas

>>149942562
If I recall the story correctly, Trainwiz did way back when Skyrim was relevant.

Which earned him a ban.

>>149942338
so the zetans have infiltrated society i see

>>149942080
>They needed DNA
That's not a good explanation. There are a bunch of other untouched DNA strands but they decided to only take one into the radioactive wasteland, and leave the other as a just in case even though they could have had multiple "just in cases".
>Losing a few
They can make more.
>Faggot
I just started now. And it's because you were acting like a faggot. When did I insult you before that.
>The bomb didn't produce radiation
What about the radioactive water? In case you don't remember, water evaporates into the atmosphere, which should make the air dangerous to breath.
>Radiation
Why is there only one ghoul in town and none of the church are ghouls?

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>>149942652
Good times.

>>149942867
The people in the church*

where did dr lesko obtain fev for his fire ant experiments