/fog/ - Fallout General

hahaha

memes

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>>149879906

Ave, true to dialogue options.

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nth for horrigan

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ITT we post the best settlements in FNV

Goodsprings or GTFO

>>149879851
Game is selling on it's name alone so they put no effort into anything.

>>149879971
I like the 50's aesthetic in some aspects. Like, I like that the 1950s left a huge impression on the world, but I don't like that The idea that technology really struggled to advance from there since in 3 and 4.

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>>149880178
Bethesda knows how to hype up their games far beyond what they actually are. Fallout 4 and Skyrim prove this

>>149880159
NoVac. best player housing, second best location relative to the rest of the game world, Lifetime supply of dinosaur toys, what else can I ask for?

>>149879851
Fallout is just a stepchild. They put most of their effort in to TES. Fallout 3 didn't exactly get a lot of TLC.

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>>149880159

I really need to return to Goodsprings, see how it looks with my new lighting setup.

>>149880184

The aesthetic is cool when it comes to little shit such as posters, Nuka-Cola, and the like.

But trying too hard to imprint "1950's" into weapons and armor is just stupid. After all, the posters were made in a time where the aesthetic makes sense. But the weapons and armor weren't.

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>shaky arms while doing last pushes

For a moment I thought it's gonna decapitate my toon if I stayd there too long

>>149880178
Yeah but why did they stop dlc if its their highest selling game, don't they want more money?
>>149880353
Its todd right.
>>149880379
I guess they are all trying to make a new engine after fallout got so criticized? I mean they have too, look at all these open world games now. todd has to be king again or he will never win game of the year again.

@149880529
>toon
:^)

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Guys, Desert Rangers Or NCR Rangers?

Which one would you volunteer for?

(And yes this is before the assimilation of the D. Rangers into the NCR)

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>>149880113
Horrigan companion mod when?

>>149880608
Desert because that fucking longcoat.

>>149880184
>>149880453

Also, here's a cool mod that I would love to see ported into New Vegas.

www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/8983/?

>>149880608
Desert Rangers, hands down.
Best out, no bureaucratic bullshit.

>>149880608

Desert Rangers. They look absolutely badass.

NCR Rangers look pretty stupid with that bulky armor and a fucking hat.

>>149880737
*best outfit

>>149880608
Desert Rangers all the way

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>>149880529
Exercise is important.

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>NCR Rangers: Pros: Get to pick off legion raid parties daily, get to absolutely rape the Jackals and Vipers. Cons: NCR's bureaucracy and corruption, look like Smokey the bear

>Desert Rangers: Pros: Dat long coat, dat anti material rifle, be a badass survivalist, protect the people against petty tribals. Cons: Get butt fucked by the Legion, absorbed into the NCR, before absorption have to live in NCR lands

I put two points into Steady Aim and nothing changed.

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I hope this new Nuka-World companion is a raider grill

So now that I've built a vault I'm relatively happy with, I'm trying to use the contraptions DLC for the first time.

Has anyone thought of a way to use the conveyors or ball track in a way that has any purpose whatsoever?

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>>149881435
>putting points into steady aim

Anon...

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>>149880529
>toon
this must die

>>149879851
> I dont understand why they just are stopping dlc
I always love reading this because people say it for every fucking game with DLC.

And the answer is always the same every time, because at some point making DLC stops being profitable, and the team has to move onto the next big thing.

>or why the dlc is so shitty
>Automatron
>Far Harbor
>Shitty
Those are two of the best DLC released for a Fallout game yet, and Nuka world is looking to be Dawnguard/Dragonborn sized as well.

And while you may not like workshop shit(I don't really care for it), building settlements, arenas, traps, means of manufacutring,and vaults, along with tameable animals, have either all been big requests, or fairly popular mods, for both Fo3 and NV.

BEthesda putting much wanted features in as official content is never a bad thing.

>>149881563
>yfw Gage is a greasy overweight, Mexican slumlord

How difficult would it be to make a scripting mode for FO4?

I want something that'll up the persk given per level.

I found the console command responsible. But I'm unsure where to go from there.

>>149881818
So is nuka gonna be bigger than far harbor. I wonder how time they put into it.

>>149881979
>So is nuka gonna be bigger than far harbor
No, its going to be slightly smaller then Far Harbor, which was slightly bigger then Dragonborn.

>>149880379

It has to do with resources. A story DLC like Nuka World requires tons of writing, voice acting, world building, and a few new textures and sound effects.

The cost:profit ratio isn't nearly as high as a Sims 4 expansion (for example) where it doesn't require any writing or voice acting, only coding. A ton of works goes into these story DLCs. We know for a fact Nuka World was in production during 2014 in some form, for example.

Betty doesn't make nearly as much off DLC as some other games do. So they're less inclined to fuck around with it. On the other hand, it raises questions about previous games with 4-5 story DLC. I am guessing they parsed those numbers from earlier games and decided it wasn't worth it.

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>>149878598
>>149879202
>>149877752
Alternatively, whose to say Mysterious Stranger is truly restricted to the Perk? Maybe when not helping you in VATS they'll sprinkle little things to help you around The Wasteland?

Afterall, when Nate and Nora are not smokers, who do you think left the lit cigarette in their house?

>>149878261
Non-Shiskabab Katana and dual wielded MP5s.

>>149878367
Agreed, in general a lot of things can fit decently into Fallout. Partially because the gulf of time between the actual 1950's to 2070's is so massive it's hard not to imagine more designs being tried out for weapons and armor.

>>149878709
perhaps, in a way Bethesda seems afraid in some ways to actually innovate with the Fallout series.

>Always has to be a Vault Dweller because the first player was
>Always use Caps as currency
>Always include BoS and Super Mutants
>Never deviate from 1950's Art Googie, Art Deco, Industrial, and Mad-Max scrap aesthetics

>>149879971
>Actually Obsidian brought back the original Plasma Rifle. It is called Plasma Caster now.

Well... There's a black mark on Black Isle's design.

I really really hate the 'prong' shit on the Plasma Caster, it looks less like it should shoot lightning or some shit.

>>149880628
An accurate Frank companion though would be like having a slightly smaller Liberty Prime for a companion.

Honestly, would Horrigan have actually been able to squeeze his fat green ass into any rooms on the Oil Rig in 2 or was that only because Isometric view allowed for ceiling height to be ignored?

>>149881563
>Raider Girl

But that's pretty much Cait.

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>>149882247
>An accurate Frank companion though would be like having a slightly smaller Liberty Prime for a companion.
Not sure about that. Liberty Prime is about 40 feet tall.

Horrigan seems about 12-15 feet at most, so he's passable.

>>149881818
>Automatron
>Good
The worst DLC i have ever played. It had like 2 quest and it was all pants on head retarded.

Anyone know the best way to grind in Fallout 1?

>>149882136
>On the other hand, it raises questions about previous games with 4-5 story DLC. I am guessing they parsed those numbers from earlier games and decided it wasn't worth it.

Actually, Todd Hwoard said in several itnerviews before skyrim came out that they hated the Fallout 3 DLC schedule because it was a hectic mess of teams constantly switching back and forth on projects, and that none of them really got the attention they deserved.

They wanted fewer, but larger, story DLC so they could spend more time on them.

We got this in Skyrim, which had Dawnguard and Dragonborn, both of which were larger then 2 of Fallout 3's DLC.

Far Harbor takes it even further, being larger then either Dawnguard or Dragonborn.

At the same time however, they did want to try making DLC at various price points, instead of just making 5 DLC all the same cost like they did with Fallout 3.

Thats were smaller things like Hearthfire, and the workshop DLC come from.

For pretty much every Bethesda game going forward, we can expect to see only 2 large story based DLC, but those DLC will be larger then the story based DLC for Fallout 3/NV were

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>>149882247
It fits the fo1 and 2 aesthetic, but not the NV/Obsidian aesthetic

>>149882247
>Always has to be a Vault Dweller because the first player was
>Always use Caps as currency
>Always include BoS and Super Mutants
>Never deviate from 1950's Art Googie, Art Deco, Industrial, and Mad-Max scrap aesthetics

That's just fairly typical themetics that basically every series goes through.

Even Final Fantasy, which never has any direct sequils in the main game numbering, does the same thing with
>crystals
>airships
>a mechanic named Cid
etc. etc.

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My waifu is a hero! She'll rescue me from this horrid world!

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>>149881870
Pls no
but at least it won't be another robot or ghoul

>>149882247
>But that's pretty much Cait.

Cait isn't that much of a raider, she's just a petty thief. And her personal quest makes her quit drugs

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>>149882489
About twelve feet tall and a good four feet wide, possibly five with armor (which he's never without), good fucking luck getting him through a doorway in-game. Guy's gonna get stuck on ore shit than a deathclaw with sentrybot legs.

>>149882876
SUPER MUTANT SEMEN RECEPTACLE

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>>149881219
Well said!

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>>149883614
Your attempts to discredit my waifu only makes me love her even more!

hope you like webms, /fog/, cause I'm bored and have a backlog of capture footage to sort through.

>>149883747
STEADY DIET OF MEAN GREEN SEMEN

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>Hurr durr only the BoS or Enclave have power armor its sooo rare
I want obshitidrones to leave

>>149881219
That is dead serious one of the worst animations I have ever seen in any video game in my entire life. Whoever made that should be the star of a Mexican cartel execution video, and I mean it, too..

>>149882247

>Well... There's a black mark on Black Isle's design.

It does look strange, but in a good way IMO. Bethesda's plasma weapons are just way too ugly, reminds me of Men in Black.

>perhaps, in a way Bethesda seems afraid in some ways to actually innovate with the Fallout series.

You missed "let's exploit Vault Boy as much as we can".

Seriously, that shit is EVERYWHERE.

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>>149883614
>Super Mutant
>semen

>>149884014
I'm not a huge fan of Bethfallout, but I shamelessly love Vault Boy and how overused it is in everything to do with the series post 1 and 2. I can't get enough of that cute little feller.

>We will never get a game where you have to go a while without a pip boy and all its benefits. Pip Boy should be either a late game item, or absurdly difficult to get early. Of course, I don't know how they'd make the game function without those menus without them just giving you nearly the same exact menus but i a different form

>>149884242
>I don't know how they'd make the game function without those menus without them just giving you nearly the same exact menus but i a different form
Poorly.

>>149884345
okay, lets assume it's NOT bethesda doing it

>>149882574

I like their previous model. DLC is supposed to be an afterparty, not a sequel. What if we're missing out on an Old World Blues because they wanted to do a much bigger Lonesome Road? Your options are limited.

And what if Old World Blues was twice as big? It would not have been any better. You can't drag out something like that or it gets dull and harder to inject excitement into it.

I honestly got bored with Far Harbor. I haven't even finished it. I stuck to the main story and still got tired of it sometime shortly after leaving the submarine facility. Although some would say dull boredom is sort of the theme of Fallout 4, so whatever.

>>149884402
The best menuing I've ever seen was Miasmata. all menus were just physical journals and maps you help in front of your face in real time, no pausing.

Unfortunately I'm one of about two dozen people who actually finished that game.

>>149884242

I've just realized the Pip-Boy's only real functionalities are:

- Picking up radio signals.
- Maps.
- Read holodisks.
- Play videogames (FO4).

Other than that, they aren't a very useful item, particularly so considering most info is given through dialogue, terminals, or in written form.

Indeed, Pip-Boys could be much more interesting if you could find some that contained maps you couldn't find anywhere else, for example.

>mfw I would make a Fallout game set early in the timeline after the bombs where finding a Pip-Boy is a monumental discovery

>>149884606
that sounds really cool actually, but I wonder how you could actually implement that into fallout

>>149884683
You'd have to make it more vital. tie fast travel to it, maybe. have a very rudimentary inventory system? It just seems weird to me that something that would be as rare and as useful as a pip boy is just chucked at the player(New Vegas is the WORST with this desu). This also ties into my issue with every blizz protagonist just being another vault dweller because reasons

>>149884942
>blizz
Sorry, Bnet gave me a notification and threw me off. Beth

What are some good mods to add more weapon variety than the joke base fallout 4 contains?

Leveled list integration is an absolute must. Because having all these nice guns that only appear when you craft them yourself is absolute ass.

>>149884423
>DLC is supposed to be an afterparty, not a sequel
I would disagree.

DLC is supposed to expand upon the game, and Far Harbor did just that, taking us to a new location and tying into the base game's themes and factions quite well.

>What if we're missing out on an Old World Blues because they wanted to do a much bigger Lonesome Road?
That argument ingores how DLC is made, if they had made 5 smaller DLC, instead of 2 big ones, they would have used the same ideas, as those are the ideas they had anyways.

>And what if Old World Blues was twice as big? It would not have been any better. You can't drag out something like that or it gets dull and harder to inject excitement into it.
That would be true, because OWB was not designed to be that big in the first place. artificially expanding something into a size it was never meant to be will always make it boring.

Designing something to be that size in the first place is a different matter entirely.

>
I honestly got bored with Far Harbor. I haven't even finished it. I stuck to the main story and still got tired of it sometime shortly after leaving the submarine facility. Although some would say dull boredom is sort of the theme of Fallout 4, so whatever.
Personally, I got bored of Fallout 3/4's DLC.

Reason being I knew that I would never get the background/content I would need to really feel like I explored the place, or got everything out of it I could, because it was gimped into being so small to fit some asinine quantity > quality DLC format.

Dawnguard, Dragonborn, and Far Harbor are the first DLCs Ive played that I've REALLY enjoyed since Shivering Isles.

>>149885128
>Leveled list integration
like, I know what that means, but I don't know what that means, know what I mean?

>>149884942

It's just that the Pip-Boy is akin to "menu".

The problem is that Pip-Boy, in the original games, was literally "read holodisks and see maps", nothing less, nothing more.

In other words: in the 3D games, when you want to look at a map or read holodisks, your character lifts up his arm. And when you want to manage your inventory, you would get a different menu, but Bethesda took the easy route and merged both menues, making it look like "Pip-Boy = Manage inventory".

>>149884683
>Other than that, they aren't a very useful item
From a lore perspective, I don't understand why every experienced wasteland explorer doesn't have one. As well as what you listed, they have a built in Geiger counter and a torch. I can see them being very useful if you can get hold of one.

>>149885178
>Personally, I got bored of Fallout 3/4's DLC.
3/NV*

my bad


>>149884942
>pipboys
>rare
>over 120 vaults in America which had stockpiles of the things to give to every dweller and descendants, with backups in case they broke
Na, things should be pretty common

>>149884942
>>149885228
>>149885229

I KNOOOOOOOOOOW.

I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW.

Aside from what anon mentioned about Geiger Counter and Torch, what if the Pip-Boy was our sole means to know how much damage, weight, and so on and so on our equipment has?

Basically, vital information you don't have in real life: damage, damage x second, weight, resistance, value, etc.

>>149885292
Your file name is wrong.
>You need 8 STR to tear the minigun off the vertibird in Concord if not using PA
>You can use INT checks during the USS Constitution quest
>There are a perception and Luck checks in the Covenant quest
>All speech checks are charisma + perk checks

>>149885343
and yet, outside of Vault 13, Vault City, Vault 101, and Vault 81, none of the vaults have been functioning for a while. It's incredibly rare to see other people in the game worlds with them(again, outside of these vaults, and the few people who are still attached to Vault 21)

>>149885217
It means they are added to the games leveled lists. Which is a tool that determines what each thing spawns with in their inventory.

Leveled list integration means you're going to see it in the wild and in loot tables. Without the weapon will only appear when the player spawns it in or it has been manually placed into the world, no natural occurrences.

>>149885496
>INT speechcheck
reading comprehension

>>149885496
The file name literally says "INT Speech check"

I don't know if you're fucking blind or stupid, but kill yourself either way.

>>149885532
okay, the idea of leveled list is what got me. I thought "level" was treated like a character level, as in you wouldn't see X until enemies were level Y

>>149885581
To be fair, he did mention the USS Constipation

>>149885512
> It's incredibly rare to see other people in the game worlds with them
Which is honestly an artifact of Fallout 1/2's silly lore

Like how
-Vault doors opened outwards.
-Vaults were located so far in the middle of the desert no one would be able to reach them before the radiation got them.
-Ghouls went back and forth from being radiation + FEV, to just radiation, resulting in humans being the only creature mutated by radiation to not be able to reproduce.

>>149882931
>a deathclaw with sentrybot legs
Can that be a new enemy? Modders get on it

>>149885651
>To be fair, he did mention the USS Constipation
That's not a speechcheck, though

>>149885651
>"level" was treated like a character level, as in you wouldn't see X until enemies were level Y
Well it's kind of like that. But instead of enemy level being Y it's player level.

All enemy spawns and equipment are based off of the players level. The leveled list specifies what level the player has to be at before the item starts spawning.

It's how enemies have better gear the higher level you are.

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Anyone got any clue what's causing this? I'm considering just sticking his ass into the submersible power armor if I can't fix it.

>>149886105
He's glowing. Kill him for a legendary item.

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>>149884014
>>149884171
Sadly, the heavy use of Vault Boy, especially in the Pip Boys could easily be explained with a single line in some Vault-Tec or RobCo Terminal in any game:

Just say Vault-Tec commissioned the entire Pip-Boy 3000 line as sort of a promotional thing. (and maybe with the sinister truth that Enclave wanted the data of monitoring vault dweller vitals)

>>149884683
>>149885229
>>149885394
Also, while there's no obvious keyboard (on any of the pip-boys, actually) you can apparently type in stuff. Your quest logs are meant to be your character's journal.

Also in FO4, it seems to be used to interact with certain tech. While this is normally to unlock Vault doors, I wouldn't be surprised if it was compatible with terminals.

The wearer's vitals might not be too difficult to monitor either, especially if there's meant to be any synergy with a standard vault suit.

>>149883903
NCR power armours are salvaged from defeated BoS.
So you're just proving their point.

>check fo4 nexus
>almost as much mods as the nv nexus despite only being a year old
gay

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>>149883903
>>149886312
they're also not true power armors, as I understand. Just the plates without any of the servos or framing to support it.

Honestly, for all the spiffiness, it seems like the NCR might as well just wear some especially thick and padded metal armors.

>>149886219
>Sadly, the heavy use of Vault Boy, especially in the Pip Boys could easily be explained with a single line in some Vault-Tec or RobCo Terminal in any game:

Theres actually new loading screens in the Vault-Tec workshop DLC that address this

What exactly happens in FO4 if a settlement's happiness level goes to zero? I've been ignoring that part of the game completely so far, and now I've got Sanctuary at 6 people, which I assume is the Minuteman nigger and that rag-tag bunch he took with them, and they're steadily declining in happiness. Am I supposed to do something about it? Personally, I couldn't care less about all that shit, since I'm focused on finding my goddamn son, but if that's about to fuck me over in some way, I'd rather know beforehand.

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Has anyone else had to deal with this FUCKING NIGHTMARE?

>>149882742
You arent frim a vault in either Fallout 2 nor in NV, though its fairly close when it comes to the Chosen One.

Agreed on the bottle caps though. For them to be used as currency on the east and west coasts is a bit strange, though the Legion and NCR now print their own money so who knows really?

As far as progress...well on the east coast at least there doesnt seem to be any. Diamond City is a shithole compared to HUB or whatever the Shi called their palace.

>>149886505
>>149886219
>In the years before the war, RobCo and Vault-Tec forged a powerful corporate alliance. Residents of Vault-Tec's Vaults would each be provided with a RobCo Pip-Boy personal computer, a device which made extensive use of the popular "Vault Boy" mascot.

>>149886739
>You arent frim a vault in either Fallout 2 nor in NV
The Courier very well could be; part of what made that backstory so great is how open it was. Hell even the TTW team managed to more or less sort of wedge the LW's story in for the same character.

>>149886721
lmao

>>149886739
>Agreed on the bottle caps though. For them to be used as currency on the east and west coasts is a bit strange

Actually its not, for the same reason countless cultures across the world, going back thousands of years, that never had any contact with each other, all used gold as a means of currency.

Bottlecaps are small, lightweight, easy to carry around in large numbers, theres enough of them to make large scale trading possible, and nearly all means of making more have been totally destroyed by the war, ensuring few, if anyone, can inflate, or deflate, the market by making more.

Indeed, these are the same reasons the Fallout 1 devs said they chose bottlecaps for

>>149880608
Having played both Wasteland games and only Fallout 1,2, and Tactics, I'm gonna go with the Desert Rangers. Maybe they finally made the NCR not suck so hard in 3, NV or 4, but I'd find it hard to believe.

Vargas 4 lyfe.

>>149886721
We need to go deeper.

>>149885178
Far Harbour isn't tied into the base game' themes and factions well at all.

It's never explained what Far Harbour's stance on synths is, but the entire story suddenly reveals that Far Harbour hates synths or something.

It was supposed to be a further exploration of synth vs human vs madman, or something. But it just completely failed, imo. I had no idea what was going on and no desire to know, really. I mashed through as many inane dialogue options as I could but still couldn't get anybody to answer what the fucking problem was. Why did Far Harbour have a problem with the CoA? Why did Acadia have a problem with Far Harbour and want to missile them despite living 5 minutes up the road, presumably within destructive range of the weapons? Why didn't DimA seek peace instead of weird arms race crap? Why and how did Dima fuck up enough to let the CoA overtake his control base thing?

There was also just basically 0 relevance in theme between Far Harbour and F4. There wasn't any logical or symbolic tie I could see.

I actually LIKE quite a lot of Far habour. I just wish it had been better and better explained.

Suppose the master succeeded. Would his unity have bested the enclave?

>>149887301
>basically 0 relevance in theme between Far Harbour and F4.
F4 had a theme?

>>149887079
Makes sense...makes a lot of sense actually.

>>149887198
3 and 4 take place on the east coast so there is no NCR.

You get NV for that...they still suck.

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>>149881715
I got used to the good hipfire in FO3 and don't like the way ironsights feel on PS4.

Unfortunately I simply must be playing the game incorrectly.

>>149887345
Humans can fuck. Supermutants can't.

>>149887413
I should have made that point too. It's hard to argue that Far Harbour and F4 are close thematically, because 4 basically doesn't have a theme. I openly invite anyone to tell me what it could be.

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>tfw just keep building more and more hallways and rooms into my vault

Every square of the main room must be filled with my vault

>>149887301
>Why did Far Harbour have a problem with the CoA?
BEcuase the Harbor men are decendants ofl ocal fishermen who survived the war, and after spending so much time with only themselves on the island they have developed a superiority complex that the Island is basically their god given right, and they view the synths are trespassers.

>Why did Acadia have a problem with Far Harbour and want to missile them despite living 5 minutes up the road, presumably within destructive range of the weapons?
They didn't?

DiMA even outright tells you he wants to PREVENT that from happening,

>Why didn't DimA seek peace instead of weird arms race crap?
He did? He never strated any arms race crap. In fact, you are epxlcitly told durig his memory sequence stuff that he HID the nuclear launch key so the Children of Atom couldn't use it, either on themselves or anyone else.

>Why and how did Dima fuck up enough to let the CoA overtake his control base thing?
He gave them the base because at the time they were led by Confessor Martin, a much more peaceful man.


Seriously, did you play the DLC at all? everything you said it point blank spoonfed to you in unavoidable conversations

>>149886861
>>149886505
huh, okay then.

>>149886739
>>149887079
In FO1, wasn't another reason Bottlecaps were chosen was by the HUB merchants group and because of something about the value of purified water?

I feel caps are a bit silly because Pre-war Money is going to still be backed by vending machines and pre-war merchant robots.

Sure, vending machines can be broken into, but also merchants will find them as easy means of storing goods for people to purchase, and pre-war robots can be... Resistant to simply being 'broken into'.

>>149887545
Supermutants have a much longer lifespan

>>149887345
Yeah.

If the Master won then he would have been dipping people nonstop. By the time the Enclave did anything they would be out numbered 10 to 1.

Probably. Guess it depends on the number of supers like the Lieutenant.

>>149887590
>because 4 basically doesn't have a theme
Yes it does, the theme is that you can't turn back time, that you are stuck in the world you are in, regardless of if its shitty, and all you can do is just to move forward and try to make the future better.

>>149887079
>for the same reason countless cultures across the world, going back thousands of years, that never had any contact with each other, all used gold as a means of currency.

Actually, no, they didn't. It was based on trade and cultural exchanges that the world started using coins.

>>149887497
This shit happens way too often. I feel like my bullets keep missing even when I'm dead on.

>>149887791
>Actually, no, they didn't. It was based on trade and cultural exchanges that the world started using coins.
I never mentioned coins you twit

>>149887734
OK, if we take that as a given, then how is Far Harbour linked?

>>149887603
Ingame merchants all accept stacks of pre-war money with an equivalent value in caps. Perhaps it is still used, but just to a lesser degree?

>>149887603
A lot of prewar money burnt up in the bombs or during raids and shit.

Bottle caps are plentiful, coin sized, and made of metal. Also robots at nuka cola factories continue to make them and shit where as you can no longer print pre war money.

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>>149887819
Wouldn't be much of a problem but VATS seems to have suffered in the upgrade to slow mo.

>>149886721

top kek

I had seen a slight part of the video before, but this is the first time I watch it full.

>>149887198

Not the same Desert Rangers, though.

>tfw Wasteland 2 is shit

>>149888020
>I had seen a slight part of the video before
I just made this using my own custom capture footage. Both glad to know I'm not alone and horrified that this is reproducible.

>>149887962
I think the problem is that vats seems to apply the accuracy to all your bullets at once, so a 50% shot with a shotgun is a 50% chance to miss with all your bullets, even if you are only 5 meters away from the enemy.

>>149887958
Is it canonical that pre-war robots are still manufacturing and distributing nuka-cola, sunset sarsaparilla, vim et cetera? I often wonder how a nuka-cola machine 2 minutes' walk from diamond city can have 2 quantums, a cherry and a nuka in it despite this being worth a total of about 200 caps, this being 220 years after the bombs hit.

>>149887904
>OK, if we take that as a given, then how is Far Harbour linked?
It related to several of the secondary themes of Fallout 4, including what defines humanity, and is artificial life sentient.

It also deals wit hthe fact that both the synths and CoA are basically here to stay, and the fog has progressed to the point they NEED the synths and their fog condensers to stay alive.

You have to bring them out of the past to accept their current situation.

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>>149886861

Jesus, I thought this was awful fanfiction, but turns out it's an actual loading screen.

Once again, Bethesda completely disregards lore. The Pip-Boy mascot was the PIP-BOY, not the fucking Vault Boy.

>>149887651
Not if you kill them.

>>149888238
the "Pipboy" was basically removed from canon in Fallout 2.

Also, the loading screen doesnt say the pipboy mascot was the Vault boy, only that they used the vault boy to advertise the pipboy alongside the Vaults.

stop trying to make shit up where it doesn't exist.

>>149888238
It's just fucking painful watching bethesda methodically rape and massacre early game lore. It's almost like... could it be... that they've never played the original games...

>>149888186
Shotguns fire pellets, not bullets. Idiot. Get the fuck out of here.

>>149888020
>Not the same Desert Rangers, though.
They are, though.

>yfw Wasteland 2 is one of the greatest games to come out this decade and is exactly what Fallout would've been now if Van Buren had worked out

>>149887851
There is literally no reason for the East Coast to use bottle caps. Bottle caps were agreed among THE HUB MERCHANTS.
The price of bottlecaps in the West is backed by the water of The Hub merchants.

There is NO ONE and NOTHING backing the bottlecaps in the East.

>>149888196
We see the robots still working in New Vegas at the sunset sarsaparilla place.

And destroy them.

>>149888402
>yfw Wasteland 2 is one of the greatest games to come out this decade
Besides the fact that most of the people who helped get it made hated it for not being good at all.

>and is exactly what Fallout would've been now if Van Buren had worked out
an entierly niche game that played terribly and only like 1% of the gaming population knew about?

>>149888164

Weird, I could swear I saw the ending to your video, though for some reason I remember there being something like "Eventually I restarted the game and the problem was still there".

Fucking creepy.

>>149888443
>There is NO ONE and NOTHING backing the bottlecaps in the East.
OFC not, backed currency is a fialed idea, theres a reason why we don't have a backed currency today.

All that proves is that the people o nthe east coast were smart enough to avoid the same mistakes of the past, whereas the west idiotically, and mindlessly, delved right back into it, and got bit in the ass in the time of NV when it all came tumbling down

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"Dude, that chick ain't no bummer!"

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>Mole rat disease supersedes any and all medication icons.
>Already cured Austin
>No debug menu on PS4 to remove it

>>149888305
Humans can't reproduce if they're dead, either.

Also, has there been kid ghouls? Do they still grow and mature?

>>149888390
>these mental gymnastics

Are you seriously, seriously actually trying to claim that that loading screen references a 'Vault boy' that is seperate from the pip-boy who is present on the perk screen? Why would you think that? Every single fucking function in the pip-boy has an image of the vault boy, who IS pip-boy.

I can't believe you're trying to argue that Bethesda's vault boy and the pip-boy that has dominated the entire series are two seperate entities.

>>149888706
>PS4
lmao

>>149888757
>Also, has there been kid ghouls? Do they still grow and mature?
the only ghoul kids we have seen have not aged or devloped after being ghoulified.

There have been several people who are ghouls, and a son of another ghoul, but both were human before the war, and got ghoulified when the war happened.

>>149888706
You have to not get hit the entire quest and not let your companion get hit. Also, make sure no NPCs follow you down there and don't wake up the protectoron, if you do, it will get bitten and the disease will magically transfer itself to you.

You just have to savescum hard, use vats and your strongest ranged weapons, and savescum harder. It's complete bullshit and is yet another reason you should be playing on PC.

>>149888629
The reason why we have fiat currency is because we have governments, regularisation and laws.
And where is that in the East Coast?

>>149888797
>pip-boy who is present on the perk screen
The person o nthe perk screen isnt the pipboy, its the Vaultboy.

Bethesda even said so when making Fallout 3 that the Vault boy on the perks is not their version of the Pipboy.

>>149888196
I remember a conversation or terminal in fo3 or nv explaining that robots still produce nuka cola and refill the vending machines periodically.

Which is strange because you would think the restock bot would get raided for his cap supply and whatnot.

>>149888985
>And where is that in the East Coast?
Besides the fact that nearly all trade in the major wastelands we have seen so far has been controlled by a single individual, or a small group of individuals, who could easily force the use of caps?

>>149888706
lmao that's what you get for buying a console you industry-killing cancerous fuck
also what you get for buying fallout 4

>>149888985
I don't think Bethesda can handle trying to make a barter system without something that determines value

>>149889174
Hello Coldsteel. How goes the edging?

>>149889184
this is actually one of the stated reasons that the Fallout 1 devs introduced caps as a mechanic, they found that people didn't get a pure barter system.

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Someone explain to me how weapons and hundred of items are stored in a pioboy? Are they using shrink ray storage packets? Or what the fuck gives? Theres no excuse for not having a backpack...

>>149889287
Pip-boy*

>>149887603
Bottle Caps have nothing inherently linking them to water. The merchants made caps a representative currency linked to water because it was the be resource to link it to. Which worked out fine and hell the NCR was able to switch to a gold standard easily because of this right up till the BoS blew up all their gold.

>>149888951
>not let your companion get hit. Also, make sure no NPCs follow you down there and don't wake up the protectoron, if you do, it will get bitten and the disease will magically transfer itself to you.
What the FUCK

>>149889287
Someone explain to me why this autist chose to wait until Fallout 4 to complain about this.

>>149889287
who says the tiems are stored in the pipboy themselves?

We clearly see when using holotapes that the p[ayer pulls them out from somewhere else and then put them into the holotape slot in the pipboy.

So the pipboy is tracking things not even in it

>>149889287
It's an organizer program. You carry the shit, the pipboy just keeps an inventory of your shit for you.

>>149889475
Ive been wondering since fallout 3 anon, fallout 1 and 2 i thought it may have been a graphics limitation...

>>149889276
It actually is very difficult, because different people value things differently. It would not work in a game

>>149887590
The theme is "Why focus on writing when this is a shooting game?"

>>149889428
I always thought Caps became standard because they were high-grade aluminum and one of the more valuable materials out there, but by FO4 if that was the case cake pans and TV dinner trays would be bars of gold.

The whole system is rather... patrician... for such a savage place. Placing incredible value on a niche piece of garbage when water and food are difficult to come by seems like weird kind of arrogant snobbishness.

Could I make a merchant that doesn't accept caps or carry caps? From a community that uses ammo as currency.

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>>149889590
But where??? Where the fuck do i hold 250 pounds of shit??? It has to be either inside the pipboy or in the players asscrack.

>>149889453
Savescum hard. It's bullshit, but it doesn't actually take that long if you're decent. Jet helps also, or psychojet, to kill mole rats nigh on instantly as they appear.

Also make use of crates, chairs, boxes etc to get elevation on the little fuckers, then they will have a hard time biting you. use vats. A lot.

And remember, no NPCs.

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>>149888390

Ummm, he is still there.

>only that they used the vault boy to advertise the pipboy alongside the Vaults.

Except Pip-Boy is literally removed from everywhere in Fallout. Vault Boy has now become Pip-Boy, it has replaced him entirely.

>>149888391

Todd would never do that... right?

>>149888402

They aren't, bro. Different lore.

Wasteland 2 is pretty shit, it's exactly what Fallout would not have been if Van Buren had worked out. It's got too much unavoidable combat, it's a squad based game meaning your build matters little since you can have plenty of companions with plenty of different builds to tackle almost any obstacle at one time, and the humor is unlike Fallout's.

>>149889632
You'd only have to program dynamic algorithms that assign custom values to each item depending on the subject, for instance a farmer might value some corn as X, and some bullets as 2X, since he's got plenty of corn but no bullets, and so on. If fucking STALKER managed to have a sorta working economy that changed prices depending on availability of items and shit, I'm sure that a AAA dev could spare the manpower to code that shit in.

>>149889762
>cake pans and TV dinner trays would be bars of gold.
>implying they aren't

Have you ever tried buying an aluminum shipment in Fo4?

>>149889762
> Placing incredible value on a niche piece of garbage when water and food are difficult to come by
Except water and food ARENT difficult to come by.

Hell, Diamond City is nearly self sufficient because they have an entire farm + brahmin raising system going on.

Not to mention farms like the Abernathys, the Finches, the Warwicks, The Slog, all of whom make food and sell it to the various towns.

>>149889863
It's honestly bullshit that you can carry more than a rifel and a sidearm. It just kills immersion.

>>149889863
magic

>>149889965
This is why the repair mechanic from new vegas was so fucking nessecary...

>>149889863
>in the players asscrack
There's your answer. Now go away.

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>>149889453
That's why I use the bug and cure myself while talking to the doctor

>>149889762
I think it's a matter of convenience. Having a currency, even if it's intrinsically worthless, allows for exchanges of complex value to take place. For example, selling a few things to someone, but only buying a couple bottles of water or a soda back - caps allow for the difference of value to also be trasferred.

Money in real life is a bit like this. It's a promise to a bank to grant that amount of value of goods or services, nothing more. Paper notes, numbers on a screen or coins made from garbage metals aren't worth much. It's their societal value that makes them money.

>>149889149
Fiat currency needs a strong government or backing in order to have a value.

There is none of that in the East Coast.
No Hub, no government, no anything.
People just got out of the Vault and said "hey, maybe we should use bottlecaps because THE OLDER GAMES USED BOTTLECAPS!".

It would be completely alright for them to use bottlecaps if there was a centralised trading in the East Coast that used bottlecaps as currency (even as fiat) just like the Hub does, but there isn't.

>>149888757
>Also, has there been kid ghouls? Do they still grow and mature?
This was actually going to be a major plot point in Van Buren, with a Ghoul eugenist faction attempting to increase fertility to further themselves as a species (supposedly the rate of conception is 2%). At one point, the player would be able to romance and possibly impregnate a half-ghoul

>>149890043
Repair? Are you thinking that it enforces players to eradicate useless guns from their inventory to fix broken ones?

>>149889276
Still, caps don't have a reason to be on the East Coast. It's a minor thing, but that will always be why I take Bethesda's Fallout less seriously

>>149889920
>stalker
>Expecting decadent western developers to equal slav dev magic

>>149889762
Wastelanders put a lot of value on Caps because they're incredibly good at being a currency.

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Do NPCs use the turrets on the vertyberts? Could it be possible to mount a turret on the ground or in a guard post the same way, something that can be sat in/stood behind and operated like a minigun turret?

What about just making the vertibird have a different kind of turret? Like a gattling laser, gauss rifle or flamethrower?

>>149890120
>Fiat currency needs a strong government or backing in order to have a value.
No it doesn't, it just needs people making the basic conclusion of
>"hey barter systems don't work when it comes to large scale trading, so we need something to act as currency, what should we use?"

and then someone else going
>"how about these bottle caps?!"

And, unlike the West caost whic hwe know got largely bombed back to the stone age, we know from Fallout 3 and 4 that settlements with established trade routes had sprung up so soon after the war that some people didn't know what ghouls were.

All the backstory behind the traders coming up with caps as a currency is nearly 200 years old by the time Fallout 3/4 begin

I kind of want to watch someone play all the Fallout games in release order for the first time with little to no knowledge of the series at whole, just to see how their opinions would form and change

>>149890303
I stopped taking Bethesdas Fallouts seriously the second I got abducted by aliens.

>>149889952
>Farms and such
Got me to thinking. Do you think Fallout would be more nightmare mode if a future game took place immediately after the bombs dropped. Pockets of radiation so intense it could turn the pc into a ghoul near instantly, food/water actually being hard to come by. Competition from other survivors. Would animals be more hardcore or less due to the radiation?

>>149890275
Yes it solves the inventory overload, and gives you something to do with those worthless guns that fall from every single enemy. Realisticallly in new vegas you had maybe 1 or 2 weapons you actually used. The rest were scrapped for repairs or in your safe in your room.

>>149890303
For me it was the super mutants.
Fo3 was okay since they came from a different vault and were different from unity mutants.

But the commonwealth has them too because "why the fuck not?"

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Was Dogmeat traveling with Preston's group from Quincy? Mama Murphy is the only one of the five who acknowledges his presence so I just figured she knew about him because of the Sight. Also the log in Corvega about the raiders spotting Preston's group makes no mention of a dog.

>>149890416
>Do NPCs use the turrets on the vertyberts?
Yes, in fact, I thing vertibirds are programmed to not use their main guns until the minigunner is killed.

>>149889952
Maybe in the Commonwealth and the NCR but the capital wasteland made it seem like drinking water and food was a big deal.

Kinda rustles my jimmies that in NV they played it as though Project Purity was a national success and all water was now clean, only to make all water RIDICULOUSLY toxic without Aquaboy/girl in FO4.

>>149890097
That really only came about after Nixon IIRC. Older currency was mainly based on or made out of precious metal, any other system is basically cashing "the theory that your country can protect the value of it's currency" which is moot when you don't live in a particular country.

Under Lucius Cornelius Sulla, Rome DID once have a similar system in which they printed a bunch of Denarii out of lead and dispersed them without anyone's knowledge so no one could tell the real from the fake, but that was still because Rome was good at protecting it's own interests.

>>149890414
That's a bit causative.

Have you guys seen Fallout Revelation on jewtube?

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>>149889863

Fallout just isn't tailored for realistic carry weights.

I play NV and my carry weight, at 4 Strength, is limited to 90lbs. Is it realistic? No. But I do feel better about myself. Having a carry weight of over 200 feels like I'm cheating.

>>149890516
Common wealth has them because the institute experiments

>>149890461
They'd probably play FO1 for five minutes and then get frustrated and quit.

>>149888629
>implying a currency backed by water doesn't make sense in a desert
Makes it easy for people to pay for their most valuable commodity.
Anyways, you are sort of right, since the West Coaxt hasn't used bottle caps since Fallout 2.

>>149890520
>Was Dogmeat traveling with Preston's group from Quincy?
No

> Mama Murphy is the only one of the five who acknowledges his presence so I just figured she knew about him because of the Sight.
This is why she knew who he was.

Also, from what we know from Nick, dogmeat is apparently well known in the commonwealth in general.

>>149890496
Yeah that's kind of true. It was only if you were a complete monster with 7+ strength and carry perks that you'd carry more than 2-4 weapons at once. Generally in NV I would take the Q35 Matter Modulator because it was easily reached early on, and then maybe a submachine gun and a pistol of some description. Rarely much more or significantly bigger unless I was doing Deathclaw hideouts or something.

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>mfw 48 pipe pistols in inventory
>20 of every raider armor piece
>you are overencumbered
FUCK THIS FUCKING GAME FUCK YOU TODD

>>149890303
The East Coast isn't in an isolated bubble. There are multiple instances of persons and groups moving around the the former country. hell there's probably trade routes between the west and east coasts and everywhere inbetween.

>>149890627
That's a fuck of a lot of Super Mutants just to be coming from 'Tute rejects. It made sense in 3 because they had access to their own FEV and were actively kidnapping people to turn them, but the Commonwealth muties don't have FEV, so ALL of them have to be coming form the Institute.

>>149890461
I miss the dark tones of fo1.

The Master gave me literal chills.

Enclave, Legion, and Institute cant begin to compare imo.

>>149890626
>Is it realistic? No
THEN WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO IT
IT RUINS IMMERSION, IS CASUAL AS FUCK AND ISNT REALISTIC IN THE SLIGHTEST

WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU STORING 90lbs OF SHIT

>>149890603
>Kinda rustles my jimmies that in NV they played it as though Project Purity was a national success and all water was now clean
No they didn't.

they made it pretty clear in NV that House deflecting 90% of the nukes heading to Vegas was the reason why the water was clean.

They never made mention of Project Purity, and James and Li in Fallout 3 outright tell you that Project Purity WILL NOT clean all the water, it will ONLY clean the water of the tide basin pool.

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Diamond City doesn't even really look like Fenway Park. that kind of irritates me. Even from the outside it doesn't look remotely similar

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>watching some random Fallout videos
>recommended video: "Fallout 4: How to Start Vault TEC Workshop DLC (Walkthrough Guide)"
>30k views

>>149890946
It's a fucking video game. Do you think the rest of Boston looks EXACTLY like real life?

>>149890603
True, it's hard to see where the logic is in caps having a set value. But one cap seems to be equal to one bullet, and ten to fifteen caps seems to equal a common soda or a bottle of water, apart from on survival in fallout 4 where water is ludicrously expensive for some reason.

So it does seem that somehow, the value of a cap is set. This might also have to do with the prevalance of pre-war vending machines, like someone else said, or it might relate to the number of nuka colas, sunset sarsparillas, vims et al produced every month by prewar robots. We just don't really know and have to accept at face value that this primitive economy of exchange has an implicit trust system.

>>149890728
>Overencumbered
>Companion can't carry any more
>Realize I'm rich af anyways
>drop 2000 purified water

>>149884683
>mfw I'm literally playing off this idea for something I'm working on

>>149891001
they made a big deal about it, it should at least look remotely similar. I mean fuck, you don't even really see the Green Monster

Am i the only one who loves the eclectic 40's-60's vibe? Also am i the only one wishing for a new bioshock game? Or that fallout had more horror vibes like bioshock? I love both series

>>149890432
>No, it doesn't
It literally does. Modern fiat currency is valued based on the strength of the government, it still holds value outside of the country because of laws and regularisation.

Ancient fiat currency was valued based on the word of the leader, and it had no value at all outside this leader's dominion. If you got a Chao and went to Bohemia to try and use the Chao as currency, you'd have nothing.

Bottlecaps have no reason to have a widespread value in the East Coast. And it is even a stretch to say that they started using because some people traded with the West Coast since the Middle-east of the US is a hellhole and barely anyone travels that far to have an active trading line in order for the East Coast to use bottlecaps.

Just face it, Bethesda added bottlecaps to the East Coast because MUH BRAND RECOGNITION. Same as the SMs in the East Coast and whatnot.

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>>149891048
>Overencumbered
>Companion can't carry any more
>drop 2000 purified water
>tell companion to pick it all up
>he does

>>149891071
Not him, but they made it pretty similar, both the Nuka cola sign and the Mass fusion signs sit in the same spots as the famous Coca Cola and citgo signs sit on Fenway, they even have the famous ONE red seat in Fenway where the furthest ball ever hit landed

>>149890627
I've never liked that explanation. If the Institute experimented with FEV, that would account for maybe a dozen, two dozen super mutants at most. However, we can see that there are possibly hundreds of super mutants around.

Also, it makes no sense from an ethical standpoint. The Institute canceled their cyborg research because it was "unethical" and "not the direction humanity needs to go" yet kidnapping people by the apparent hundreds to forcefully mutate them is fine and dandy.

>>149891071
>they made a big deal about it
Who did?
>it should at least look remotely simila
It does, in that it looks like a baseball stadium.
I'm guessing you're from Boston and that's why you're so bothered by it. If they did a Baltimore Fallout I personally wouldn't give a shit whether they rendered the water in the harbor the right shade of brown.

>>149891190
>The Institute canceled their cyborg research because it was "unethical" and "not the direction humanity needs to go"
You forget, the Institute sees everyone on the surface as dead already.

The people on the surface are not "humanity" to the people of the Institute.

>>149891190
Keep in mind that the institute is also fucking retarded, so there's that too.

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If I have a complaint for Fallout 4 (aside from ""it just works") it's that enemies either die in a single shot, or soak up so much damage, even on Very Easy, that the combat simply loses any urgency or weight

>>149891189
Funny thing about that, It's not really the farthest hit ball, and nobody actually knows how far it was hit, because the measured the point AFTER the ball stopped moving

What was the exact moment you decided you were going to murder Shaun?

>>149891479
how can you be THIS bad at the game?

JaneBod > CBBE

>>149891582
>no weight triangle

>>149891519
When a spooky old man holding what looked like my son came out trying to ostensibly give the "we're on your side" speech to me.

Ended up redecorating those cleanroom walls before he'd gotten two words out.

My theory is that supermutants are the effects of radiation, similar to ghouls. Only difference being their cells adapted to it, and the ghoul cells rejected it and the ghouls body was torn apart. Similar to super heroes adapting to radioactive exposure. Its a make or break scenario in my eyes. The whole fev thing feels forced and never made much sense seeing how many super mutants there are.

Tldr:
>super mutants are the same as ghouls
>super mutants adapted to the radiation
>ghouls bodies couldnt handle it and rejected it

Are there any good clothes that let the aerola peak out without exposing the nipple? I have a huge thing for aerola slip, but bodysliding my girls to have massive aerolas is useless because every outfit is built to keep them covered anyway.

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>>149891519
>make robot that looks and feels just like a human
>has not made any cute synth maids

>>149891758
If there were some conceivable way that the muties could be getting their hands on FEV to turn more people themselves, that would clear the whole issue up.

https://youtu.be/RKNNKhS80JA

He will forever be missed... ;`^(

>>149890780
Right, but whereas we know Hub traders promoted the bottle cap as representing a certain amount of water, there's no given reason for them to be used as currency anywhere on the West Coast.

Which is stupid and frustrating

>>149891758
>The whole fev thing feels forced and never made much sense seeing how many super mutants there are.
How so?

The Institute got FEV over 100 years ago, and has been mutating people like clockwork ever since

Hell, the Institute got FEV in 2178, and by 2180, they had mutated enough people with FEV that a super mutant horde could attack Diamond City.

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>>149891758
Literally no.

>>149890792
This is true.
It should also be worth noting that the Institute's FEV experiments have been discontinued since before the SS woke up from cryosleep. Either they've been dipping Wastelanders by the thousands every day for 100+ years (which is unlikely given the size of their FEV lab), or there's something we're missing. In any case, there shouldn't be nearly as many as there are.

What do you think Strong was like as a human before he got FEV'd?

>>149891560
What was I doing wrong?

>>149892037
> (which is unlikely given the size of their FEV lab)
You are aware that the games are massively scaled down?

Do you really think theres only like 10 bedrooms in the whole Institute or something?

>>149891818
Reminder that shaun steered the institute away from human advancement, biological immortality and weaponry.

Instead he got them to make synths that represent normal humans (often black men for some reason) for no other conceivable reason than severe autism. He didn't even have the basic human curiosity to make sex dolls, it seems, nor did it cross his mind to stop synths from having the desire to be free, though he demonstrably can put this limitation in place.

>>149892106
>it's another in game mechanics = canon episode

>>149890872

I know this is bait, but I'll give an honest answer: because it makes the game far more challenging, without making it an absolute bore.

I already spent 12 hours before getting to Nipton, imagine how much time I would have spent if I couldn't get enough shit on my back to sell and make some caps.

>>149892167
>Instead he got them to make synths that represent normal humans (often black men for some reason) for no other conceivable reason than severe autism.
Shaun had nothing to do with that. Gen 3 synths were being made when he was literally only 3 years old.

>nor did it cross his mind to stop synths from having the desire to be free, though he demonstrably can put this limitation in place.
Except he can't, and its outright stated that all attempt to do so have failed.

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>>149892167
I don't fucking understand it
>We want to improve humanity
>By creating machines that look and act human and subjugating them into slavery

>>149891853
Tbh i don't think they are that intelligent, there was another theory going around that super mutants were the result of cannibals eating ghoul meat and eventually human meat. The radiation mutated their cells into a superhuman beast.
>>149891937
Unless the institute went topside and bombed cities after the war with an FEV virus I don't see that happening. They aren't very militaristic like the BoS. Chances are only a few supermutants would have been made and probably kept in containment for studies.

>>149892167
>for no other conceivable reason than severe autism

Hmm. Actually, it might be issues with not seeing his parents. He's trying to spread what are effectively his "children" out across the wastes, giving his "family" a chance to help the institute.

>>149892047
Raider lord

Why didnt the Institute just put a lifespan on synths a few years past their inception date? Why not just add a killswitch?
Dont they only get emotions after a certain amount of time?

>>149892282
Yeah I thought the plan was "humanity sucks, make better humans and give them the earth."

>>149892298
>Chances are only a few supermutants would have been made and probably kept in containment for studies.
Uhh no, its outright stated in the FEV experiment holotapes that the Institute was bringing people in by the dozens constantly.

>>149892242
You fucking wouldn't be able to do that in real life so why should you in the game? It's a fucking immersion ruiner. You don't deserve those fucking caps if you have to shove them in a magic asshole to carry them.

>>149892364
>Dont they only get emotions after a certain amount of time?
No

>Why didnt the Institute just put a lifespan on synths a few years past their inception date? Why not just add a killswitch?
BEcuase that would be a massive waste of reosurces to constantly have to make more gen 3's when they could just make them biologically immortal, like they are, and try to find out whats caused them to gain true sentience and stop that.

>>149892486
You also wouldn't be able to fight giant mutated bugs in real life, or get turned into a walking immortal corpse, or get better at lockpicking by running around shooting things, or get your brain removed from your body and replaced with tesla coils. Video games aren't real life.

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>>149892383
Judging by the Institute's original logo and motto, I think that's what the founders at CIT initially wanted...they just got lost somewhere along the line.

>>149892392
Will we ever get a Bethesda game that DOESNT have Super Mutants?

>>149892167

What's the point of making Synths in the first place? They didn't seem to want to use Synths as a more refined version of a Robobrain without the whole gradually going insane thing, and they pretty much just used Synths as slave labor and as security units even though Gen 1 & 2 synths get chewed up by military-grade robots.

It's like they wanted to do the whole "Mankind Redefined" thing, but didn't actually think it through. They just made really high-tech slave labor.

>>149892542
Are synths affected by radiation and/or human sicknesses?

Do synths age? Nat is a synth so I presume yes.

>>149891935
because again, bottle caps make for an excellent currency. They're the right combination of rare but not too rare, hard to counterfeit, durable, and easily recognizable. There is a reason pretty much everyone in the history of mankind who made it to a half decent level of civilization used gold as a currency.

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>tfw vore mod is live

>>149892662
>What's the point of making Synths in the first place?
The point of synths is to create an effectively immortal workforce that required no human supervision so that actual humans can spend 100% of their time doing whatever they want.

Gen 1/2 synths are known for being flawed, for breaing down all the time, and doing stupid shit like walking into walls.

Gen 3's on the other hand are immune to age, radiation, and immune from obesity, and are close to being immune from disease.

If they could remove the "free will" shit, they would have the perfect labor force that would out perform any and all of the pre-war robots.

>>149892678
Valentine says "Radiation ain't a problem for me" when you ask to take him to the glowing sea, and he later states "I don't need to drink or sleep or any of that but if you need to you do it."

as for Gen 3s... The guys in the robotics lab say they are immune to all illnesses and don't need to eat or sleep, but whatsherface with the grey hair from the railroad eats drinks and sleeps. As for age, it's anyone's guess. It's stated that Kellogg's extended lifespan was a one-time thing they never really did again.

I wish someone made a mod to replace all of the shitty pipe weapons in fallout 4 with 9mm weapons, beretta, greasegun, etc.

>>149892678
Synths dont age. Its a problem with the Shaun synth, he's an eternal shota.
Nat is a synth but Piper doesnt notice it because she abandons her in Diamond City for so long

>>149892734
I get your argument, but I still see it as a sign of Bethesda's laziness/comic approach to Fallout in general.

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>>149892678
>Are synths affected by radiation and/or human sicknesses?

Not sure about diseases. There's a doctor in the institute who injects a Synth with a medication and tells her to report any negative side-effects back to him, so Synths can be affected by certain drugs. But until we know exactly how Synth cells work, it's kind of a grey area.

>>149892960
Kellog isnt a synth, his extended lifespan is part of their human enhancement program that Shaun cancelled. Shaun cancels it specifically because he thinks it what made Kellogg violently insane and kill his dad.

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When are we going to get a new trailer for Nuka World? I want to get disappointed as soon as possible.

>>149892734
They used gold as currency because of trading with another cultures, Chinese started using gold because of trading with another cultures, English started using gold because of trading with another cultures.
Hell, Europe only used gold as standard currency for years because of the Byzantine.

What is your argument again?
There is no reason for the East Coast to use bottlecaps and comparing it to gold is just retarded.

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I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like this.

>>149893089
Not him but, to be fair, when Fallout Tactic's came out its "new" currency was ring pulls, aka the soda can equivalent of bottle caps.

Its basically become one of those things like how near every Final Fantasy game features crystals, airships, and a mechanic named Cid

>we didn't want to see Terminator-style robots, we wanted to see Robbie The Robot style robots, we wanted to see Forbidden Planet style raygun
>-Tim Cain

Then came Bethesda and put Terminator-style robots. Ay.

>>149893281
>fending off a super-sledge with a wooden stick

Bravo, Todd.

>>149892662
For construction, drilling deeper underground, and maid like service. Gen 1 and Gen 2 are said to walk in circles and trip over things easily even though in game they are literally reskinned humans so this never happens. A Mr. Handy could do half of what the institute needs.

>>149893213
>Shaun cancels it specifically because he thinks it what made Kellogg violently insane and kill his dad.
No, he cancelled it because he saw that the other members of the Institute were growing jelly of Kellogg's advanced lifespan, and didn't care about the other benefits cybernetics could provide such as increased strength, and speed.

Kellogg was already a violent psychopath before The Institute recruited him, him living so long just made him even more ruthless.

>>149893272
And why did the first dumbass fucking monkey decide to use gold? Because of the god damn reasons I listed.

>>149893464
>A Mr. Handy could do half of what the institute needs.
While also
>breaking down constantly.
>needing to be refueled all the time.
>getting stuck in logic loops and continuing tasks long after they were useful, as we see with Codsworth, ad all the robots at Greygarden.

All of which Gen 3's don't suffer from

Hey /fog/, has anyone done testing for how much luck it will take to get to 1 shot crit charging while using a lucky weapon?
I am currently at only 19 luck and I am almost getting a 2 shot charge with lucky weapons, something that with a normal gun shoul take around 30 luck
I have no idea how it calculates the 15% it claims as it appears to be closer to 30%-40%

>>149893468
I'M pretty sure him living so long is actually just a plot concession so they could go "SURPRISE, I'M YOUR SON." As if no one saw that coming.

>>149892678
Oh boy here we go again.

*clears throat*

The game is pretty inconsistent about Synth biology, but the general consensus is they're pretty much indistinguishable from natural-born humans (DiMA, the Brotherhood and Dr. Chambers state in separate instances that there is no medical test to tell if someone is a Synth without killing them). They eat, they sleep, they shit...though, one Institute scientist claims they don't have to, or can at least be conditioned to last longer without doing so.

We don't know if Synths age, but Danse was presumably "younger" when he joined up the Brotherhood (~10 years ago), and Synth!Avery's been around forever (at least 40 years) and has shown signs of age.

>>149893213
Makes sense, but it's still a fucking shame that we missed out on the opportunity for cybernetics in-game. Shit, every other Fallout game- I think with the exception of Fallout 1 and Tactics- has had the player be able to modify themselves- the sub-dermal combat mods in Fo2, Fallout 3's VATS enhancer thing, and NV's mods+OWB. So why don't we get them in Fallout 4, story reasons aside?

>>149893640
I think you needed around 63 luck to charge a regular weapon with 1 shot.

>>149893643
> As if no one saw that coming.
You would be surprised.

I still see people to this day asking if Father is REALLY Shaun because "Shaun" was a kid in that flashback with Kellogg at Diamond City.

People are fucking stupid.

>>149893674
> and Synth!Avery's been around forever (at least 40 years) and has shown signs of age.
Synth Avery only showed up like 10 years ago or so.

Hooooly shit finally playing Far Harbor

the fuck do i kill this mirelurk queen with?

>>149893468
But Shaun writes he didnt care at all about the petty jealousies of the others.

>I still regret eliminating that project, but I know where it would have led us. Walker was never shy about his goals, and too many others were starting to listen. In the end, I believe I was justified. The Institute is about preserving humanity, not some bizarre amalgamation of biology and technology.

Shaun is transphobic

>>149893287
Fallout 2 used NCR gold-backed coins (one quest has you uncover a "treasure" of 2000 bottlecaps only to disregard them as valueless), and NV had its multi currency system. Tactics was a bit weak in that regard, given that the MWBoS could easily have... a credit-backed digital currency or something.

>>149893948
Your explosive combat shotgun, which you farmed in the base game months ago.

>>149893983
>But Shaun writes he didnt care at all about the petty jealousies of the others.
No, he said
"let others have their petty jalousies."
Not that he didn't care about them.

>>149893554
Because it was rare and prettier and easy to be processed in another things because of the low melting point.
In fact, gold standards even declined when the Byzantine Empire declined and people started using silver for currency instead of gold.

Go learn some fucking history.

>>149893782
Yeah, I can read a pastebin/wiki page fine.
I want to know when you will reach that threshold with the lucky legendary mod on your weapon as it increases the amout of charge you get.
If no one knows I will just test it myself

>>149893127
>tfw this hack will never do incest with full penetration

>>149891479
What, you don't like the fact that Dino can survive 2 MIRV shots?

Which Quests in the Fallout games have the best names?

I like names like:
>Red Rockets Glare
>That Lucky Old Sun
>The Nuclear Option
>The American Dream
>Volare!
>For Auld Lang Syne

>>149892960
>>149893674

Don't forget, Curie's body was on life support prior to the brain upload. She talks about needing to eat/sleep/breathe/brush her teeth and complains of experiencing adverse effects for not doing so.

>>149894249
I'd say most of the New Vegas ones since they're based on old-timey song names.

>>149893637
>Codsworth, and all the robots at Greygarden.
Codsworth had nothing better to do than to just wait, and could refuel and maintain himself for 200 years straight.
The robots at graygarden were still useful. The plants needed them to maintain and that they did, again for 200 years straight.
Gen3 synth farmers would revolt in 20 years if they all didnt run away.

>>149894324
Not him, but thats why i hated most of the NV quest names.

The joke is funny 3 or 4 times a game, but every other quest it gets old

>>149893931
Huh. Must have missed that one...
Gonna have to check my sources

>>149894343
>The robots at graygarden were still useful. The plants needed them to maintain and that they did, again for 200 years straight.
Excpt that entire thing was pointless as they were growing plants for literally no one.

>Codsworth had nothing better to do than to just wait, and could refuel and maintain himself for 200 years straight.
Which is eactly the problem, he can't move onto a new task without being told to. In any large scale construction project mr Handy robots are massive pain that need to be updated constantly with new orders because they simply CANNOT function without orders.

>>149894402

>The joke

It wasn't meant to be a joke, it's mean to be a running theme.

>>149894402
It's not supposed to be funny, dumbass. Is everything a meme to you?

>>149894424
Several NPCs mention that Avery "went to the mainland" for years and only came back recently.

I don't recall if they give a specific timeframe for how long ago she came back, but she hasn't been back for decades or anything, its a fairly recent return of a few years.

>>149894402
It is not meant to be a joke, you fucking autism.

>>149894058
He also wrote "Kellogg is a living testament to the ingenuity and superiority of the Institute."
Them being jealous of his enhanced life expectancy is not a logical reason for rejecting the program. The institute could simply further develop it and pass it out to everyone. Shaun himself is on his deathbed dying of cancer. It shows a lot how he rejects human cybernetics at a time when he most needs it.
His diary gives the best explanation. He simply doesnt consider transcended humans as people.

>>149894775
>Them being jealous of his enhanced life expectancy is not a logical reason for rejecting the program.
Yes it is, because , as he states, he knew people only wanted it to live longer, and didn't care about all the other possible benefits.

He saw they weren't going to use it properly, and canned it before it ever became a problem.

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>bulding random stuff in my vault
>notice some of my dwellers walking in a hallway nearby
>decide to check where they are going
>11 people are actually in that hallway already
>they are all walking towards one corner of my reactor room
>now they are all just standing there

Can you remove the right of assembly in your vault? I don't trust them. I might need to have them all executed in my vault arena.

>>149894343
This really kind of undermines the whole game. Bethesda needs to stop their concept-art driven approach to video games and actually draft out a fucking story for once.

Fallout 4 was an opportunity for Bethesda to prove they can write worth a damn. With the major inspiration being Blade Runner, you'd figure they would write some pretty intricate, layered plots, with maybe a few questions about machine sentience to give the player something to muddle over.

Instead, Bethesda did what they do with Fallout: spend half of the dev time placing skeletons in implied sexual positions.

>>149894775
> It shows a lot how he rejects human cybernetics at a time when he most needs it.
Uhh, becoming a cyborg isnt going to magically cure the cancer eating away at your organic bits you idiot.

Cybernetics wouldn't have saved Shaun by any means.

>>149894156
What happens if you take a Fat Man with "Fires an additional projectile" and modify it with an MIRV. Does it fire 6 or 10?

WAIFU POLL

http://www.strawpoll.me/10758152

>>149895412
>with maybe a few questions about machine sentience to give the player something to muddle over.
Literally the entire Institute/Railraod war is behind this idea.

>>149895469
Twice as many as the regular spread. There is a fixed one in the base game already with 2 shot.

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>>149894775
>"The Institute is about preserving humanity, not some bizarre amalgamation of biology and technology."
>Mankind "Redefined"

>>149880856
What's wrong with bulky armor?

What are you, a child?

>>149895643
>Mankind "Redefined"
Redefining how they live, how what they are biologically.

>>149895450
>liver has cancer
>replace it with synth liver

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>>149890604

https://youtu.be/8eYWWjONN50

>>149895772
Yeah, thats
A. not how synths work
B. not how cybernetics work
In Fallout

And what if he had brain cancer? Hes just fucked then.

>>149895768
Then what's the point of Synths, at all? Personally I think it's more like >>149892643 put it

is a mod with MGS style head bandanas with physics on the tied ends?

>>149895908
>Yeah, thats
>A. not how synths work
>B. not how cybernetics work
>In Fallout

Kek, for a second I thought you were doing a Fallout 4 dialogue system joke there.

Not that guy, by the way.

>>149895827
>Eats Coast enclave armor on the west coast
>Autumn's speech being heard on the west coast
>AYYLAMOS are part of the plot

shit/shit

>Its another "The Concept of Synths in the Fallout Context is Retarded" episode.

>>149896074
>its another "people don't understand anything beyond one dimensional I HATE EVERYTHING! or I LIKE EVERYTHING! plot lines episode:

>>149896074
I'm not a fan of synths because they feel more Blade Runner levels of cyberpunk than Atompunk. Bethesda seems to have been set on making Fallout as 50s as possible, yet they inject it with themes and popular fantasy topics from the 80s.

>>149896361
>he hasn't seen the 1927 metropolis film

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>>149882574
>>149882615

the re imagining made by a drawfag using fallout 4 art, looks far miles better

i would be happy if someone manages to port that beauty

>>149894249
Nothin' But a Hound Dog is the epitome of a perfect quest name.

>>149896074
The Institute is retarded period.

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