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>Official Website
https://playoverwatch.com

>The Oversheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/

>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki

>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/0HaMLiu7

>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://overbuff.com/

>Competitive Info
http://gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://over.gg/

>Overwatch DPS Sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D4jOtaosiZoM2VA9IjRRPaiMbTTZtPrD1d8mK23DPa0
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Reminder

Tracer needs a buff
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>>149888385
I want to be that ice droid
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What's the best menu background and why is it D.Va on Hanamura?
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Post Reaper
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Soldier 76 is like a mixture of Captain America and the Winter Soldier.
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>>149888385
Why isn't there a ginger hero?
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Bastion is cute
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>>149888385
I want to ram my dick into Mercy's vagina
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>>149888542
Just a little more range or damage. Pls blizzard.
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buff all defense heroes
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>>149888606
Just my theory on the subject, but the colors of the game would make it so that you're really easy to get headshot'd in most areas of most maps.
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>>149888667
Give her the quake lg.
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D.va LM should do more damage
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>>149888601
So the times Buckey was Captain America?
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>>149888482
If you have something to say then say it instead of greentexting like everyone will magically understand what you're implying.
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I know Reaper's death blossom reaches above him even though the animation doesn't look like it, but does it go below him? If I'm jumping down on people should I be hitting q in the air and get damage in or when I hit the ground so I don't waste time
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>>149888725
make his head big and make him immune to headshots. he can be a new tank absorbing damage with his head
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>>149888385
Praise fucking Kek
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Mercy!
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How do I post a topic on the official forums?
I made an account and a battletag but it keeps telling me I can't start a new topic without a battletag, even after I made one.
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>solo q for comp
>5man group + me
>think this is promising
>a minute into the match one of them quits
>they all slowly quit leaving just me
>lose half a rank
>"Okay whatever, just got unlucky"
>solo q again
>make picks
>someone picked Mercy
>only tank is D.va, so go Zarya
>Mercy switches to DPS before the round starts
>switch to Lucio so we have a healer
>Mercy switches back to Mercy
>switch back to Zarya
>round starts
>Mercy switches to DPS again
>go back and swap to Mercy myself
>proceed to get picked off for the entire rest of the match by the enemy teams Reaper that people let pass by every fucking time
>lose half a rank
>mfw
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Protect Mei
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>>149887664
>when this game's rankings are not based on skill

OK, let's stop this pushing off responsibility bullshit right now, because it's rampant in this community.

First and foremost, you can group up, doing away with all of your "lottery" complaints

Second, people that are ranked near you are not infinitely shittier than you. This fiction seriously needs to stop. I have yet to meet a person over rank 60 that is total crap at the game.

So the rankings DO correlate with skill, though they're not exact. I challenge you to find somebody who is sitting 75+ right now that doesn't deserve whatever shitty reward blizzard has cooked up. It's just not you, sucks, but hey, Michael Jordan lost games too. Or maybe JUST MAYBE, you're not fucking Michael Jordan.

That being said, the highest variance in skill happens between 65 and 70 imo (and in 45-53ish, but we won't get into that). If you are 70 or higher, and get placed in a team of high 50s/low 60s against a team of mid-low 60s, the game is ENTIRELY winnable. The rest of your team is likely has comparable skill to the other.

And stop blaming coin flips. If you are that high in rank, you play a shitton, and they will even out over time.
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>Going Whole Hog while nano boosted
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>Always main support/reinhardt because I think i'm a baby bitch who can't aim.
>Realize I'm just gambling away my wins because no matter how many 4 man rezzes I give a shit team they still won't be able to push the enemy off the point.

>Decide to main genji for a week
>A few of the matches are completely abysmal, but I'm getting better at aim and picking fights
>The gamesense I learned from playing mercy and reinhardt so much pays off and I'm able to constantly score kills
>Get complimented left and right for being a good genji. People notice me more in three days of playing an offense hero than an entire month of playing support/tank
>Start winning games noticeably more than I used to

After friday I'm gonna take it to comp. It feels good, /owg/.
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>>149889075
>>solo q for comp
Should have stopped right there. You only got yourself to blame
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>>149889121
Go away, Kaplan.
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The best highlight intro is random
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>tfw King's Row is broken for me

Got it twice in a row and loaded into black twice with no penalty.

How fucked am I?

People are getting angry as fuck and recognizing my name now. I checked the forums and no one knows a good fix.
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>>149888587
>gif

get with the times grampa
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>>149888990
I want to rape Mercy
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>>149888601
And old Clint Eastwood

>>149889396
Nice cropping skills
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>>149888587
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>get placed at 57

thats not bad is it?
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Am I a shitty person for running Torbjörn on attack in 60+ skill ranking competitive matches?

I'm on PC.

I play in a pre-made, and we usually win.
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>>149889396
>cannot crop
>censors names but not the chat
>botnet like skype and chrome
>full height taskbar with large icons only, no text
>ie and wmp pinned
>antivirus

typical tripfag.
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>>149889719
You missed the hell that is 50 and below so yeah
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Post YFW you get a useless Widow or Hanzo main on your team in every ranked match that refuses to switch
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>>149888587
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>>149889732
Torb is shit

The hero itself isn't that bad but the turret is so worthless

You could just play roadhog and do the same kind of thing except way better
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>Play Genji on quick play
>30 seconds until we Attack
>A player asks me to show off my Genji butt
>At that point everyone on my team was staring at me
>gets awkward
>A Mercy even started teabagging me when I started to run away from my team

Should I feel violated?
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>play Genji and pretend to be a Jap
>absolutely wreck the enemy team
>they start raging at me tell me to stay in my own servers
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It's gold gun per skin or per hero?
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>game has auto balancing built in
>if you solo queue and are not on blizzard white list of streamers and mlg players
>your damage get reduced and your damage received is increased

It's LoL/Smite all over again.

Gotta make sure the games fair guys!
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>still no summer skins
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>>149889896
You fucking deserved it, Genji shitter
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WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING DEFENSE HEROES ARE BAD?

EXPLAIN YOUR BALANCE OVERTARDS
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>>149889986
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>>149889974
Hero.
>>149890005
They'll come out Soonâ„¢
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>>149889732
I have literally never lost a game in comp or quick play when I pick torb on payload attack.

The second you put the turret on the cart everyone turns into some kind of blithering retard and dies to it. It's hilarious.
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>been away for a few days
>come back to a patch
>download it and go into the game
>fire up practice range first to test to see if everything is okay
>practice range itself takes forever to load
>pick a hero
>black screen for a long time before loading into no hud
>this is what I look like

So how did Blizzard break the game this time?
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>>149890080
Because they have an overall lower performance then most other heroes or have very niche uses, meanwhile most other heroes are pretty utilitarian.
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>>149890080
They just are. They have less damage and less mobility than offensive heros and offer nothing in return. Plus lack of mobility works very poorly in some game types specifically koth.
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>>149889986
>>your damage get reduced and your damage received is increased
No. However you do get kicked out of a group if you win after the match
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>>149889787
Yeah but the thing about Widow is she got a GREAT ASS
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>>149890219
True
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At what temps should I worry about my graphics card?
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is it true that changing your reticle can affect gameplay?
my friend swore that changing his reticle to green + made him much better at playing Genji and Zenyatta
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>nobody on my team picks support
>pick mercy
>do pretty good
>we should easily be able to beat them
>on attack my team can't get it into their head if they all flank different directions there's no way to res them so far apart
>they keep doing it despite everyone using "group up"


maybe if i charge in 1v6 over and over it will work once xD
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>>149890005
Summer skins is the 4th worst OW meme.
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>>149890316
Is it wrong that I camp with Widows and stare at their ass? Meanwhile, the point is getting captured.
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>Buff Winston's shield

>Let Blueberry quickscope

>Make Junkrat's tire sanic fast and deploy quicker, increase speed on his projectiles

>Make Tobjorn's turret less awful

>Make bastion less awful (He's going to have to have some mobility while firing in order to do this)

>Rework Symmetra so she isn't Teleporter: The Character

>Make Mei walls transparent so your team can shoot through them but still keep enemies from passing through them
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>>149890165
Literally just you.
Get a new T1000, dude.
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>>149890080
People always look at what the pros play and use that to determine what's good and what's bad. I still see every defense used pretty regularly in quickplay and ~50 comp matches and they do just fine.
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>>149890335
10 degrees Celsius. If it's that low your computer is probably off
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>>149890384
maybe you should have picked a different support that works better with a team that is spread out and flanking.
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>>149889763
50-60 is the real hell. Players are so garbage sub 50 it's hilariously easy to carry teams. I carry all my casual friends to 55+ easy. 50-60 people are sometimes decent at combat so you can't always mop the floor with them solo but everyone is retarded at compositions and tactics.
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>>149890080
Mei doesn't do any damage
Hanzo and Widow can't contest a point
Bastion is far too easily countered and will always be the first target to get shot at
Torb's turret isn't worth much outside his ult, although his alt fire and the armour packs are decent
Junkrat is actually okay because he can deal strong damage and has neat abilities
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>>149889874

I disagree with this.
He's not good in every situation, I'll admit that. But his turret is definitely not useless. If you place it in a decent spot it can really help support your team.

>>149890138
Yea, I like having a Reinhardt use his shield to cover it on the payload and watch as it just racks up the kills and damage. it just frees me up to do shit like kill flankers or put out more forward damage.
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>when you round a corner and see a Genji for a split second before he fucking instakills you with all 3 shurikens into your head
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>>149890374
Do you seriously believe changing the color of your reticle will make you better you dumb fuck?
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>>149889874
the turret's only good if your team is also good. molten core is a decent cockblock for flankers
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>>149890335
Quick google search says 110-120 but that probably depends on your card.
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>>149890491

I just don't understand wtf could have possibly changed to make Overwatch have issues like this. Every other game and whatnot is working as usual and is absolutely peachy.
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somebody post lucios solo killing offense heroes
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>>149876202

Good old average anas eh?

Speaking of consoles, outside of the very rare ragemail, is it just me or do consoles have less saltier players than PC?
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>Went into ranked solo queue and ended up starting with rank 50

>cant get above rank 57 no matter how hard I try

Anyone want to join me? My name is KriegerZero and I want friends.
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>>149889874
>You could play Roadhog and deprive your team a tank
>You could play Roadhog and give enemies free ults

The point of playing Torb is to cut off key points and be a nuisance. Roadpig has other uses.
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team??

team???

team???

fuck you
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>>149890694
>playing pre-patch Zenyatta
>dying as Tracer
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>>149890673
I can tell from your reply that you've never experienced the hell that is the low 40s in comp.
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>>149890754
i got one, bad quality because shitty pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lUGDwPv56g
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seriously what's the point of Symmetra? her entire kit looks like it was made to annoy people and kill literal newbies and retards
ult is fucking garbage, might as well ressurect people instantly rather than making a massive towering teleporter that can be abused by the other team

i cringe whenever i see someone pick her, might as well get a widow waifufag because her ult is actually decent
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>>149890673
>Mei doesn't do any damage
>Hanzo and Widow can't contest a point
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>>149890673
Well the turret the way I see it, is there to supplement torb, if you put it in a good spot it will force at least one enemy to divert to take care of it, because you don't stick it with your team, then you can jump in and help your team with torbs nice attack kit and armor drops.
Most Torbs seem to want to run him as a Turret the character though.
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Why is Junkrat not Irish?
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>>149890835
Region?
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I don't get how this is the only game that makes me rage so much it just feels like if you solo que you just get fucked no matter what and are never put into a decent team
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>>149890862
I figured it'd be implied enough that if a genji landed 3 shurikens into your head he'll immediately follow up with melee+dash which kills 200 health characters
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>>149890969
NA
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Lucio needs a buff to be honest. To weak at the moment. Needs 50 more health imo.
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>our team - all level 70 or above
>enemy team - 4 130+, 1 200+

thanks for the balanced matchmaking blizz :^)
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>>149890468
>>Make Mei walls transparent so your team can shoot through them but still keep enemies from passing through them
No, that'd be retarded. If anything the wall needs to be wider.
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>>149890926
Once you stop being a rank 20 shiteater with less than ten hours of total gametime, you'll know.
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>>149891087
>implying level matters
I've seen 400+ nigs with a MMR of 40-
Git gud
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>>149891067

I think Lucio is fine the way he is. He already is surprisingly sturdy as he is.
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>>149888542
She's already extremely good for competent players that dedicate themselves to making mercy's life a living hell
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>tfw someone solo ults you but you still kill them
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>>149891067
>Literally the best support in the game
>A good one is hard to hit, using Amped Speed + Infinite Wallride when in danger
>Too weak
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>>149891017
I'm at work right now, but you can add me Sini#11234, I'll be home in 5 hours.

I'll accept once I get home, if I accept before that it means my brother got into my PC again.
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>>149891067
Lucio should have 150 health
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>>149891067

>>149890945
I get so annoyed seeing people do this, just babysitting a turret, or trying to place it and upgrade it in the middle of a fight. Best use I've seen is a Torb come in drop the turret just to add slight damage then run around shotgunning bitches.
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>>149890926
Her Ult could be so good but it's way too fucking easy to find. And I will never understand why she's a support character, when she fits so much better into defense.
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>>149891121
How about if whenever you built a wall every lucio player on the server would have to transfer 50 credits to your account to help you build it
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>>149891008
>I figured it'd be implied enough
Anon...

>>149891067
His ultimate should also cause damage to enemies and knock them back.
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>>149890915
you must be incredibly shitty for that to count as a highlight
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>>149890190
>Less mobility
Hanzo has wall-run, Mei has ice walls, Junkrat has the mine, WM has the grappling hook.

They have the damage too, problem is it's situational damage. That's their biggest problem, they're created for situations - area control - but when there are heroes who can control an area by outright kills, it nullifies the need for a "defence" category.

McCree's Ult alone is one of the best area denial Ults int he game, Reaper's Ult also functions similarly.

I think Defence heroes should just counter offence heroes harder without raising their damage values. If anything, the ease of their damage application that frustrates in lower level play comes from that crutch to help them deal damage outside of situations. Imagine if Junkrat would only deal respectable damage on direct hits or had slower reloads to discourage spamming, his damage would be laughable. Bastion dealing less damage or having wind-up time would see him killed before he'd kill anyone else.
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Has anyone got a picture of the different ranked icons?

I never even noticed they changed with levels, it seems like they differ every 5.
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>>149891408
yes
i posted what the man/woman/xe wanted
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>>149891259
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Looking for a bf to buy me videogams and carries me to rank 70

http://steamcommunity.com/id/benzosexual/
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>>149890908
My low/high is 61-72, so no I haven't

>>149890931
Mei is an ok anti-flanker, but there are far better options.
She's good at stalling, I'll give her that, but when faced vs more than one enemy she'll have a rough time actually killing anyone.
All Hanzo has is his bullshit scatter arrow and Widow has a poor SMG, the reason everyone hates having Hanzo/Widow teammates is because 99% of them are complete deadweight, that can't push or defend a siege properly.

>>149890945
I stick turrets hidden on the point to alert me and my team of flankers, there's no point putting it on the frontline because it just gets shot down instantly.
The good thing about having a hidden turret is that if they make a siege, they probably don't know about it until it starts shooting them, doing a lot more damage than a turret in clear view to get shot down. Plus when it's getting destroyed you can activate Molten Core to push them back and at least save the turret for the meantime.

But yeah, the turret is secondary, his gun and being on the frontline collecting scrap for armour is good enough, it does it's job.
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>>149890374
It can if you're having trouble contrasting the current reticle from the background. If not, then the color probably won't do much.
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>Winston's bubble is one of the worst abilities in the game

>Dva's matrix is directional and used best reactively rather than passively

>Roadhog has no shield and is barely a tank

>Zarya can only protect herself and one other person very briefly

WHY IS RIEN THE ONLY TANK CAPABLE OF TANKING SHIT

BUFF WINSTON'S SHITTY TINFOIL SHIELD REEEEE
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> Breaking through four torb hanamura defense through GERMAN ENGINEERING and teamwork
Ohhh yes
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>>149890374
sort of
green crosshairs are standard in fps games because it's one of the more visible colors, but the difference isn't THAT big
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>>149891673
Because Rein is the only team-oriented, main frontline tank.

I kind of hope the next hero they add is either a good Defence hero along with a Defence heroes balance update, or a frontline tank like Rein.

Winston's fine, at best the bubble could use another 100 HP.
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>>149891673
>>roadhog is barely a tank
>takes at least 900 HP to take down unless you kill him before he runs off to take his inhaler
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>reached rank 70
>people still don't know to focus mercy
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>>149891673
Zarya's job is to protect your ass while you run from a tight situation while powering her rape cannon.

Although I agree with Winston's bubble that it complete garbage, you can break it by just whispering to it.
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>>149891601
>99% of Hanzo/Widow teammates are deadweight

EXACTLY. A 76 or 2nd Tank or really anything else that actually gets on the goddamn point is way more valuable to me than some retard that thinks he's a god because he played 50 hours of CSGO before.
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>>149891717
>Not D.va Rushing Japland.
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>>149890080
The category should be 'niche' instead of 'defense'.
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>>149891717

>Not lobbing nukes and australians when pubbies try to pull that shit

Tobjorn is such a strange character. His turret has a cooldown and upgrades like it's a strong thing you want to keep alive but behaves like a mini-sentry. Torb himself is fine. Super shotgun the shit out of most of the cast.
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>>149891518
Go back to r9k
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What's up with the menu? My gpu is so loud like it's fucking dying and then ingame it returns back to normal
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>>149888542
No she doesn't you retard.
She's good at getting kills and getting out alive.
That's all she does, and she does it well. No need for a buff.
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>>149891673
'Tank' just means difficult to kill and can shrug off strong attacks, like a urm..tank.

Its not the same as the MMO term Tank which is a Sword and Board aggro taker who keeps everyone safe.
They all server different purposes.

Roadhog can stay in a fight for a really long time.
D.va shuts down ults and can contest mobile heroes.
Rein is strong for breaking through choke holds due to his large barrier.
Zarya is good for shutting down debuff heroes, staying in the fight a long time, and saving people caught out, as well having the strongest ult in the game.
Winston is good for reporting people who pick him
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>>149891673
Winstons shield is balanced around the days when people ran 2x winston and shit

now you can't stack up shields its pretty bad
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>>149890374
It depends whether you use it or not. If you ever actually look at your crosshairs and use them to aim then having them more visible helps, especially in a game with as much visual clutter as this one.
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>>149892104
>Winston is good for reporting people who pick him
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>>149891892
I don't understand it, I'm almost positive a lot of players that got to rank ~70~ did it on a lucky streak, players still consistently die to dumb shit, run off alone, feed ults, can't prioritize etc.

I got a friend 10-0 in placements and they ranked 75, they quit because they don't want to drop anymore, fresh level 25 who doesn't know how to play
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>>149892272

>People are so used to double monkey aggro strat that the notion of buffing single winston is appalling to them
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>>149892284
Your friend sounds like a smart guy. He quit while he was ahead
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>>149890080
Only at high levels of play. They're pubstompers. I don't know how Blizz can balance def heroes without making them stomp pubs even harder just to be even usable in pro play. Take Beta Bastion(casual destroyer) and pre-nerf Widow(sniped everyone) for example.
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>>149890374
A little bit I guess, I set mine to pink to it stands out a bit more than white.

But its not going to give you skill ranks or anything, you might go from high 35% accuracy to low 36% at best because in one or two situations its slightly more helpful focus.
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>>149892386
>People also realize qp would become more of a shitshow
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>>149889719
Only matters if you hold it. Some reason how they calculate placements is way off how they calculate the matches
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FIRE IN THE HOLE
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guess rank.

all 3 lost on coin flip defense btw, what a great system!
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>>149891673
>Winston's bubble is one of the worst abilities in the game
It's mostly for personal use because he's supposed to be jumping all over the place but even then it's still pretty bad.

>Dva's matrix is directional and used best reactively rather than passively
So is Reinhardt's and his isn't really passive either.
Only passive multidirectional shield in the game is Zarya's and Winston's.

>Roadhog has no shield and is barely a tank
You shouldn't have said that, Anon.
Now you're going to have all the angry pig cock suckers bitching to you how OP he is and how good his self heal is.

He's really meant to be used in conjugation with another tank, he's very good and basically only kill-able through ultimates when he has Zarya or Reinhardt shielding him.

>Zarya can only protect herself and one other person very briefly
Yes, very briefly but quite often really and she has the ability to shield people from big threats from all directions plus her shield breaking is no big deal and only means she gets more power for another thing that she has uniquely to her which is the ability to output very, very good damage while shielding people and she also has her 200 passive healing HP.

>WHY IS RIEN THE ONLY TANK CAPABLE OF TANKING SHIT
He's not, D. Va and Zarya are also very good shielders who aren't slowed down by their shields or have to deal with their shield's HP.

Not only that but these characters can even shield from a range, unlike Reinhardt who needs everybody to stay behind him.
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>>149892505

>QP
>Mattering

Double Zarya is still retarded.
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>>149892528
>stopping junk rat tire with genji shift
>sweatingmei.jpg
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>>149892450
How are they pubstompers, they don't win pubs and half of them never get picked.

I can't even remember the last time I saw Bastion or Mei.
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Ok, if you're 76 and you get jumped on by the stupid fucking monkey is there anything at all that you can do? Assume your team is off playing bejewelled or whatever it is they do.
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>>149892685
100
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>>149892685
I had the same, and got 57
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>>149892816
Place your healing field and go for headshots?
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>>149892505
QP shouldn't factor into balancing at all.

Balancing should be focused on 65+ pubs.
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>>149892816
drop heal, hit everything to the head and shoot rocket.
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>>149892816
Drop biotics and shoot
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Can somebody post Ana banan for me? kplsthx
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>join game
>nobody picks support
>guess I will
>watch my junkrat walk up to 4 people and die 30 sec into the round
>watch my soldier try to 1v1 a roadhog in hook range and die right after
>can't do shit cuz I picked a useless healing retard

hmm really makes u think..
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Is there a worse feeling than

FIRE AT WILL

>four defenseless squishies in ult
>need to reload at the same time
>only person besides the zarya who fired it
>they all get away and they wipe you right after

REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149888542
Maybe reduce her spread a touch, but that's all
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>>149892983
I gotchu senpai
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>>149892931
>>149892953
>>149892975
Can you actually win this dps race though?

Assume you have to reload at some point because you always have to.
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>>149889874
Torbs turret doesn't fuck up, has 100% accuracy and can be replaced immediately after its destroyed instead of having to wait 10 seconds to walk back from base. No other character or skill creates such a reliable threat on such a large area as that shit little turret.
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How do we fix competitive so someone leaving doesn't entirely fuck you over? No points lost/gained if you keep playing till the end whether you lost or won, leaving early would still lose them
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>>149890080
reddit said it best
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/4uq2ui/every_defense_hero_is_terrible/
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just outhealed a lucio trying out zenyatta for the first time this patch
was he just bad or did zenyatta get heal buffs?
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>>149893048
Do yourself and your team a favor by playing Winston.
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>playing Zen
>peeking from behind a wall to throw mah balls out and discord people
>teammate Roadhog and Zarya in front of me, Soldier 76 too
>somehow enemy Roadhog chain that wasn't even intended for me manages to thread the fucking needle and hit me
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>>149893134
It's winnable but you have to hit your shots, if you have to reload your probably dead.
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>try comp
>two 3 men on my team
>no one picks support
>pick lucio
>widow instalocker starts telling to switch to reinhardt
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>>149893048
>Waste the strongest ult in the game
>Blame team

nice la
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so what's the next hero going to be? a viable defense hero? a new flanker?
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>>149893105
you little cheeky cunt
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>>149893358
I don't understand the need to add new heroes
The game is gonna get oversaturated and be imposible to balance
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So what the hell is this scheduled maintenance? I want my skins NOW
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>spend all morning playing
>nothing but payload and capture
I just want to play some KOTH, it's the best game mode. The exhilaration of playing Lucio on Market Night is like a drug.
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>>149893451
of course
they'll still add new heroes though
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FACK MCCREE NERF DIS SHIT
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>literally every facet of Genji is broken and overpowered
>but blizzard won't change it because "muh skill ceiling!"

Feels bad.
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>>149893358
Genji with permant Dragonblade and extra 300 HP.
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>>149893202
I'd say stricter punishment/bans for leavers.
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>>149893562
That data is before the most recent patch, doofus.
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>>149893451
t. FPS babby
go fuck urself and take ur shitty genre with you on the way out faggot
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OH SHT THEYU ADDED THE SKINS EVERYOJNE RESTART YR CLINET
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>>149893562
Did you just sleep for 4 days?
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>>149893358
If you didn't live under a rock you'd know it's a stealth hero.

>>149893451
For the game to not die.
But on their defense, the game woulds still be unbalanced no matter what they did.
It's Blizzard.

>>149893563
Somebody's sad because they're bad.
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>>149893241
Dude did you just...
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>>149893358
I think they should fix the current heroes.

Trob Mei Junkrat Bastion Hanzo Winston Symettra Widow all need buffs.
Pharah is shit but I think thats because popular heroes shit on her.
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>>149893563
Only thing broken about him is Dragonblade - only Swift Strike kills should reset Swift Strike's cooldown. But you can just hit people with your ult for 120 and get the CD reset. It's stupid.
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>>149891601
>but when faced vs more than one enemy

Almost any combination of characters in a 2 v 1 matchup is going to result in the 1 having a disadvantage. You can't say she's bad because she can't handle getting double teamed well. Honestly because of the stall thing she handles it better than most as she can actually survive it.
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>low health
>stand next to Zen/Ana and spam "I need healing!"
>they don't fucking heal

I hate these assholes.
>>
>queue with low rank friends
>get ez games
>be one of the highest ranked players in the game

LOL
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>>149890080
Well there's 2 turrets and 2 snipers and a fucking mei, they're all absolutely useless. Widow was good but nerfed, rest is just super situational trash that isn't good at all u nless you cheese hard.


They're all shit
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>>149893778
The duration of the Ult is too long. Between faster movespeed, massive swing arcs and near-guarantee of a dash being off-cd, he doesn't the duration get around. Deflect should be at the expense of the Ult, not as a bonus.

So often I'll see Genjis kill four people and still waggle around with their sword out, looking for the 5th kill. That's a clear sign of an Ult that lasts too long.
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>attack
>someone instalocks widow
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>>149893837
>hear I NEED HEALING
>look all over the place for them
>they were behind me the whole time

wtf dude just stand in front of me
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>>149891259
>Reaper tries to solo ult me while I'm Lucio
>Push him away and spam the "Why are you so angry?" voice line while I kill him from a distance
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>>149893296
That happens to me far too often. I'm thankful discord orb allows me sight of the target so I can hide behind fat ass tanks and just focus on hitting the target. It's awful when your tanks are shitty and just drop their shields or move suddenly for no reason.
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Buff the blueberry
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>>149893976
Question, can the enemy actually hear your voice lines?
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>>149893972
>attack
>you have 3 snipers
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Roadhog needs a buff to be honest. He doesn't have protection capabilities like the other tanks. Half of his health should be armour. He's too weak at the moment.
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>>149890459
Yes, just fap before you play to get it out of your system. Preferably to the character you want to play
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>>149893976
>Reaper jumps into the team and ults
>DEFENCE MATRIX ACTIVATED

cucked him good
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>>149891673
Funny enough, winston's shield had 1000hp before it got nerfed to 600
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>>149894083
Yes they can
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>>149888385
people like this need shot
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>>149892685
Had the same and got 51, even though I had at least 3 gold medals in almost all of my games.
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will defense heroes be fixed before season 2?
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>>149893773
Pharah gets shit on because she has 200hp of regular health and her rockets do fuck all splash damage. You have to thread the needle to really hit anybody on the clusterfuck maps and hope they are too incompetent to fight back.

I don't entirely understand why she's supposed to counter Junkrat other than superior mobility (only because she can fly). Because as a person whose most spent time is trash mouse I could always counter her with ease.

>shoot her once or twice with M1
>throw a mine to finish her off

His vertical aiming is actually easy to get used to in my opinion.
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>join game
>both team push the payload to the end (woah so hard xd)
>then coinflip
>lose

wow nice game!!!! :) how competitive!!!
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>>149894097
That would change literally nothing.
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>>149894076
Never
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>>149893702
made me check
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Winston needs a damage buff to be honest. He's too weak at the moment. His weapon should get a 25% damage buff imo.
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anybody wanna play ranked with me?
i have no friends..
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>instant cast 5 sec invulnerability that is NOT AN ULT and can be cancelled at any time
>250 hp
>can be a sniper with 70 damage projectiles
THANKS FOR A BALANCED HERO
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Cheers luv!
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>>149891518
(Re)consider ending your miserable existance
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>>149894138
Or alternatively.

>Reaper jumps into your team while ulting
>Gets a quad-kill
>HELDEN STERBEN NICHT

Cucked him for his potg too
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>>149894391
Having people solo ult me as Zen just to get me off the point is the best feeling
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>>149892685
>went 7-3 as well
>two of the losses had leavers on my team
>got placed at 64

Guess it worked out after all.
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>>149894391
how fucking bad are you
if anything mei is underpowered after the projectile nerf
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>>149893834
>Almost any combination of characters in a 2 v 1 matchup is going to result in the 1 having a disadvantage
Yeah no shit, but the 1 can still win with most characters
Unless it's someone with a peashooter like Lucio, most characters have the potential to win a 1 v 2, Mei really doesn't fall into this at all unless the the other team are full of clowns
Most likely thing will happen is she'll try and freeze one of them, go into her icecube because the other is shooting her in the ass and then wall them out as she scampers off for help
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>>149894375
>enemy has armor
>each tick goes from dealing 3 dmg to fucking 1
>1 dmg per tick

D.va and reinhardt just negate winston entirely
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>>149894426
>it's an enumbe gets a lucky ult and thinks he's hot shit episode
>>
Heroes that need a buff:

Mei
Roadhog
Winston
Lucio
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>40% winrate with offense heroes
>30% with soldier

I know I'm shit at this game, but sometimes my team needs more attacking and I never feel like I'm pulling any weight.My competitive rank is 32, and seems to be where I'm supposed to be.

Is there anything in particular that I'm just doing completely wrong?
youtu be/WG-ckvP3QB8
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>>149894540
Are you by any means rank 20?
>>
when im zenyatta am i supposed to be up close so i can kill shit without worrying about the slow projectile or am i supposed to be at a distance supporting the party with discord and heals?
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>>149894592
Does monkey dicks and jet set radio future really need buffs? They are the epitome of balance imo.
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>>149894592
>Roadhog

Good fucking joke
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>>149894391
>can heal herself during invulnerability
>can stall a point for more than 10 seconds by herself with invul + wall as her teammates come in to distract you so she freezes you and headshots your face

She's so annoying I hate her. Slows an already slow game even more
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>>149894592
>Roadhog
>Lucio

Now this is some weak ass bait
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>>149894525
>just ignore her lol
my favorite meme
>>
Who do you blame when you get stomped?
>>
Lol at this defense heroes suck meme. You faggots really just rapid fire spew whatever the fuck you read twice, don't you.
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>>149894681
70
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>>149894601
>that aim
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YOU'RE LOSING?

JUST PICK TRACER LMAO
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>>149894770
Nobody because I know when I'm fucking up
Unless I'm dead and I see some chucklefuck standing outside the point on overtime that can't bother to walk two steps to contest, then I blame him
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>>149892826
>>149892851
>>149894252
>>149894497
got placed at 68.
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>>149894592
>3/4 of my hook deaths were when it passed through geometry on the hog's screen
>buff
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>>149894097
Hook should reset on kill :^)
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>>149894770
I play mostly tank/support so usually the idiots that don't know how to play good dps heroes like Gengu or McCheese
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>>149894770
I always blame myself. I could have done better! Then the next time I'm getting steamrolled I go mei and put a wall so the enemy team stops being together and spreads out while I tell a dude to go bastion so he melts anyone cocky and dumb enough to stay waiting for the wall to end
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>>149894770
My team.

It's always my team's fault.
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>>149894927
Good shit
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>bouncing between 55 and 56 for like three days straight

I can't even feel anymore.
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>>149894097
Eat shit retard
Your ability to insta kill half the cast means you don't get armor

Fuck right off and I'm glad most of you people aren't in charge of balance
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>>149894601
your aim is fucking abysmal, if you can't deal constant damage on a roadhog with those fuckhuge hitboxes at midrange you should just stop playing hitscans entirely
your movement also indicates you have no gamesense or even any idea what you're doing, you just move a bit within a small area, and you never use sprint, not even to run away

is this your first FPS? if it is, just keep playing and trying your hardest and you'll git gud eventually. will take a while though. also watch pro matches on twitch if you want to see how you should be playing.
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>>149894770
5 prestiges on the enemy team, while there's 0 on mine + levels 15 and 22
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>>149894390
If you're NA my name is KriegerZero#11604
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>>149894592
No, but seriously.
Heroes that need a buff:

>Junkrat
>Winston (smol buff)
>Torbjorn
>Widowmaker
>Mercy (smol buff)
>Symmetra (big buff)

Heroes that need major changes or an entire rework:

>Hanzo
>Bastion
>Mei

Heroes that need actual fucking thought into their changes (like seriously, actually play this game or listen to somebody who does):

>McCree
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>>149895115
>Junkrat

How about not
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>>149894781
Before the "defense heroes suck" meme was going around I always felt that defense heroes were lacking other then junkrat and widow. The other heroes are all really niche. You can't tell me that when you are on defense and you see the mei/hanzo picks you question the integrity of your team mates.
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>OT
>Everyone is dead except a D.Va, they're .2M from the point and their team is almost to the point
>D.Va runs off the payload to kill a mercy
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>hook the same Genji 5+ times in one game
>doesn't die
>hook the same Soldier 5+ times in one game
>dies every time
Is the hook+shot based on connection or something?
I swear this happens all the fucking time, if you don't manage to kill someone once they always get away.
Same happens if you're getting hooked, Roadhog A will kill you 100% of the time with a hook and shot, but Roadhog B will always leave you with like half your health and you can escape.
20 tick doesn't help probably but I swear it's to do with connection because the situations seem unique to each player and stay constant.
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>>149895115
I think Junkrat is fine and sym only needs a small buff with widow, but i agree with everytghing else
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>>149894770
Blizzard
>>
How would you balance winston to be viable, but not a necessity like D.va/Zarya are right now?
Make his shield take reduced damage and slow down enemies that walk into it Mei-style?
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>>149895040
I played CoD on console a few years ago with my brother, and that's my history with FPS
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>>149894601
get better aim and aim for the head

get a big mousepad and a good mouse and switch to low sens
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>>149895119
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>>149894601
also, what dpi/sensitivity are you using?
>>
>prepare to attack
>hanzo, ana and widow all instalocked
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>>149895115
Looks like a solid list. Can't wait to see how Blizz will completely ignore all those in favor of adding new heroes.
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>>149894770
ME BOOGA
TEAM BOOGA
WE'RE ALL BOOGAS NOW
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>>149894770
low levels/50 rank
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>>149895263
Up dps by 20% and call it a day. Or give him more 'ammo' before needing to reload and lower jump time by a have second
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You want to rank up?
Too bad haha.
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>>149895207
doesn't genji have a smaller hitbox?
could be it
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>>149895291
400/15
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>>149895396
>season high 51

You better be new
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>>149893942
>Rank 89 against players almost 30 ranks below him
this matchmaking is horrendous, There shouldn't be a player with 20+ ranks higher than the average.
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>>149895432
change your dpi to 800 and your sensitivity to 4
don't fucking question it, just do it
if your mousepad is too small buy a bigger one
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>>149894540
>yeah no shit, but the 1 can still win with most characters

Ok, so you're saying that you agree that most characters are at a disadvantage when outnumbered, but disagree in that you believe Mei is the only one that has 0 chance of winning.

A) it doesn't fucking matter because in 19/20 scenarios that solo guy is going to get gutted
B) if you win getting ganged up on, it's either because you're very good or they were both fucking retarded. In which case your hero selection had nothing to do with it provided you aren't a support character.
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>>149894097
>Half the damage one of his counters deals for 50% of his health
>>
Currently using an $8 walmart wired mouse but I feel like I have constant issues tracking people (always a little behind etc.) so maybe I should turn up my game sensitivity or buy a new mouse?

Don't wanna drop 60 bucks on a mouse but I don't see myself getting past 65 with the current issue tracking
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>>149895396
>friend wins a 5v6 as zarya where his teammate dc'd right away
>gets this
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>High level games on Assault

Defence heroes need buffing these always go on forever.
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>>149895206
Nice
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>>149895396
>this happens to me
>whatever
>queue up next game
>getting our ass stomped, theyre the underdogs
>fuck going to derank or some shit FUCK
>one of them disconnects
>they all start to
>get a free win and rank up
EZ
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How do I git gud so people will want to play with me?
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>>149895410
just checked the wiki (i know wikis aren't reliable, but still) and that does seem to be the case, genji has a small as fuck hitbox, smaller than the scrap guns scatter.
Maybe right click would actually deal more damage.
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>>149895698
Can you stop spamming your shitty LOL DEFENSE HEROES NEED BUFFING meme and go away?
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>>149895619
Get an Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 off ebay. Best cheap mouse. Best overall mouse.
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>>149895207
Didn't know I would ever have to say this to a pigplayer, but here we go I guess:
Learn how to fucking aim.
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>>149891404
>His ultimate should also cause damage to enemies and knock them back.
The whole point of Lucio's ult is to wait until the enemy tries to rush you and you cuck them royally with a billion health, pushing them back would be pointless because the added health would've regenerated by the time they've come back
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>>149894770
either the matchmaking or 20 tick
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>>149895601
>but disagree in that you believe Mei is the only one that has 0 chance of winning.
No, I was saying she has a very low chance, much like a player like Lucio

>A) it doesn't fucking matter because in 19/20 scenarios that solo guy is going to get gutted
Not really, seeing as there are a good bunch of heroes that can easily win 2 vs 1 battles such as Reaper
>B) if you win getting ganged up on, it's either because you're very good or they were both fucking retarded. In which case your hero selection had nothing
This couldn't be any more wrong, 9 times out of ten if you win a 1 vs 2 it's because of hero selection
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>>149895796
Kill yourself autist this is my second post in this thread, the other was about cucking Reaper.
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Will there ever be a tank with a small hitbox?
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>feel like my team isn't doing much but don't really say anything all game, just doing whatever i can, intercepting a few ults
>see this at the end of the game

low 60s are true hell
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>experience rank 64 for a brief moment only to be down to 57 by the end of the night

I want to die anons.
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>>149895778
Right click only does 50 damage before it turns to Flak, I think.
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>>149895190
>>149895228
Junkrat's too situational and too inconsistent with his damage, in my opinion.
He could easily be as viable as any mid range DPS.

>>149895263
One second less cooldown on both of his abilities but cooldown for jump only starts when he lands.
Barrier stays until it's broken or another one is put down.
Barrier has 700 HP.
Maybe remove the Socker Boppers from his hands when he ults so he can actually do something besides push people around.

He doesn't need any gimmicks, he's perfectly fine for harassing the enemy and causing chaos.

>>149896009
It was a joke, friend.
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>>149895591
the space I have to use is too small for a large mousepad
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>>149895410
Sorry that was a bad way of putting it, I should have said Genji A and Genji B
What I meant was it's always the same players you hook and don't kill, regardless of hero, it's like they are a split second ahead of you and can jump off JUST before you get the sweet spot
And same for getting hooked, I was playing QP with two Roadhogs on the other team. Roadhog A would always kill me with the hook but the other one never did it once because I managed to get away somehow

>>149895917
>player A lands it front of you
>shoot directly at him
>doesn't die
>do the exact same with player B
>he dies
>this same thing happens with the two players throughout the entire game
haha my aim must just get worst when hooking player A, you're right
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>>149896242
are u the dubu poster in /kpg/
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>>149896242
>dva
>47%

What the fuck
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>>149890017
>WAH SOMEONE IS GOOD AT A HIGH SKILL CAP HERO AND IS BETTER THAN ME WAH UR A SHITTER
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Post overwatch playtime music playlists
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>>149896050
You're literally retarded and place too much value in counters.
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>>149896219
Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of a tank?
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>>149896445
Don't have one but I'll switch this on sometimes while playing Lucio. Channel the beats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGA4PilHdr0
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>>149896304
How is his damage inconsistant? If he hits, you take a lot of damage and he has a trap and a mine he doesnt even take damage from. Hes extremely consistant in damage and racks it up disgustingly fast. He has a large ammo count and a pretty quick reload. Hes definitely fine where he is.
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>>149895525
I'm not new, just bad at the game.
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>>149896331
if you have less than 40cm to move your mouse horizontally then just give up on aiming and play other heroes
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>>149896540
>5
>large ammo count
???
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Muh ulti m8 is ready
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How bad do your teammates have to be to let a Torbjörn have 2 gold 1 silver in KotH?
Shouldn't they feel ashamed?
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>Farah's fall speed increased by 20%
>Roadhog's self heal is now interrupted by large hits
>Genji can no longer double jump while his dash is on cooldown
>Widowmaker's zoom animation is now 15% faster
>Zenyatta's base speed increased by 10% and his ultimate's speed boost reduced by half
>Junkrat's steel trap now launches slightly further
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>muh hana song
Blizzard stealing again from fan made videos?
Jews really have no creativity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfVHzzcGOuE
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>>149895619
Buy a new mouse. A good gaming mouse is mandatory for fps. Make sure you get one with a perfect sensor.
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>>149896529
Jet Set Radio? Nice.
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>>149894601
As mentioned already, your aim is lacking. However, your positioning is also really bad. With S76 you'll want to be on high ground most of the time. At the start of the game, you should've been on top of the bridge thing, not under it or in front of their spawn. Once they get the first checkpoint, you might want to move to the top platform over the second checkpoint. Once they take the second checkpoint, go on top of the spaceship, etc. etc.

You also have to keep in mind that once they take certain checkpoints, their spawn will move forward. Like when they took the second checkpoint, you kept fighting in front of the gate. Their spawn is right there, so they'll have a massive advantage. Instead, you should've ran as soon as you saw the checkpoint was lost and gotten on top of the ship.
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>>149896750
>shitty balance changes post #104244553
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>>149896725
not as ashamed as the guy playing torb in KOTH
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Allow me to enlighten you as to how we fix Genji in two simple steps.

1 - M2 RoF lowered
2 - Double jump has a cooldown.

That's all you need to do. No cd on double jump is part of the reason why Genji can just effortlessly slaughter people with his ult, because he's hoping around with increased movement speed while swinging around a tree trunk.
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>>149896009
I wish it had a secondary effect of some sort.

Increased effect based on height you did the animation from

Or damage to a target you drop the beat onto.
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>play ranked
>game 1
>retarded team that has a tantrum when given advice such as 'please dont use winston when they have a rank 80 reaper'
>lose with gold elims and damage and 2 deaths

>game 2
>exact same shit

>game 3
>facing a stack of 75+ pro players with a team that's all rank 65 or lower

ranked sure is fair and fun!
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>>149896643
If you cant kill a character when you have 5 easy to use and powerful grenades with a fast reload i dont know what to tell you.
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>>149894601
Buy it for pc lad.
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>>149896902
You can nerf Genji after tanks are nerfed.

Offensive heroes are supposed to be good at killing people.
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>>149896690
a shame it's the most underwhelming ult in da game
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>Winston deals 70 DPS (Up from 55 DPS)

>Still the worst DPS in the game
>Still effectively unable to hurt anything with armor
>Reaper still wins 100% of the time
>Roadhog still wins 100% of the time
>Still unable to fight tanks
>This only results in one second quicker TTK on most of the cast
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>team gets spawn camped at 57 average

Just kill me.
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>>149896902
The problem with Genji's ult is that his melee range is about from here to the sun.
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>>149897121
Thats good balance then.
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someone tell me how this makes sense/is a fair system:

>play defense
>manage to hold the last point until overtime, 0 m and 0 second remaining
>switch attack
>take last point with over 5 minutes remaining - we completely dominated them
>coin flip defense and lose

?????????
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>>149896219
loli tank when?
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>>149897121
I don't know how that's an improvement.
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>TFW for every couple of stomps (losing and winning) there comes an equal fun match

I always remain hopeful for these equal matches coming up
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>>149897197
Coin flip is gone next season. It doesn't make sense, but we deal with it for now.
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>>149897197
It doesn't make sense, which is why they're getting rid of sudden death next season.
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>>149897192
>>149897280

Which is why that suggestion is solid. His damage is so shit he can't kill the squishies fast enough even though that's in his job description.

That makes Lucio and Soldier unable to laugh and heal tank his damage. It makes 200 health classes much easier to kill (It's still fucking slow) while also making Winston charge his ult faster.
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>>149897043
this is a PC
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Reminder that Mercy was made for loving
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>>149897425
It really looks like you're using a controller.
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I'm starting to get worried about how much my roomate is husbandoing McCree.

She left a match yesterday because someone used his thanks response and hearing him say "Thank ya kindly" made her cry from happiness.
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>start game
>first match, hollywood, we can't contest the point and lose
>second match, route 66, we can't reach the first checkpoint and lose

Jesus Christ, how is this even possible? Time to drop some ranks I see.
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>>149895006
thanks m80, is now 69 and hoping for 70 tonight.

all solo, I'm almost proud!
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>>149897175

That's true, but the fact that he can jump around like a ferret on crack doesn't help matters.
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>>149897607
>aiming at a jumping target in this slow-ass game is haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard
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>tfw had a dream of Tracer getting mindbroken by Reaper and turning bad
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>>149897715
You're retarded dude
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>set settings to low
>get 180-200FPS
>start doing better
>set them back to high
>getting 120-140FPS
>start doing worse
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Is Soldier 76 Big Boss
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>>149897354
>>149897371
okay, that's good. I guess they don't want to change such a big rule this late in the season, kinda makes sense.

but damn, I don't understand how a seemingly very competent development team came up with that system in the first place. competitive should never be left up to chance, that's the whole point...
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>>149897715
It is when he's jumping around you. Hitting Genji when he's fucking with someone else isn't the problem.
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>>149897715
Ah yes, the typical "JUST SHOOT HIM" strawman

End your life retard
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>>149896540
RED HOT OPINIONS:

Well his explosion radius is a bit small, his grenades a bit wonky to aim and on a timer, his ammo pool could be bit bigger and his fire rate a tiny bit faster.

His trap is situational, honestly, and his mine is the only thing I consider to be exceptionally good about him.
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>>149897804
Yup. I got coinflip defense on 5 games yesterday. It's shitty.
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>>149897146
>play Lucio or Tracer
>Sneak to the objective at lightning speed
>force enemy to play the objective
>free the spawn and maybe the first choke
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>>149897715
He can double jump and his dash recharges on kill, he can also scale walls quickly.

He is hard to hit because he's faster than most of the slow ass heroes.

His deflect also punishes you for shooting at him and gives him a window to go heal even if you're pursuing him.
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>>149892685
i had worse but ended up at 56
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when does the season end?
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>route 66
>lvl 29 rank 52 guy
>picks symmeetra
>doesnt get up a teleporter
>half way through the map he puts up a teleporter, it dies instantly and he changes to....
>HANZO
>spams need healing when my orb is on our reinhardt
>switches to bastion on the last point
>does nothing pretty much all game

higher level requirement when
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ana shouldn't count as a sniper for call outs. other snipers one shot you, ana ignores you and heals her team or pokes you for 80.
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So how is Genji now anyways? Is he better now?
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>>149894601

My aim is not very good either and I'm generally shit at FPS games but what's been helping me is taking just a second longer to aim. It might be tense in a high energy game like Overwatch but taking that extra second means you're probably going to be aiming better than the guy you're fighting who might just be spamming like he has aspergers, especially at rank 32.
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>>149893562
I don't get how zenyatta replaces mercy. Mercy heals much more and has a much better ult while zenyatta is basically a dps character. Why don't teams play with all 3 and have zenyatta replace a dps instead?
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>flip coin hasn't been patched out

What the fuck? It always ends in a predictable outcome
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Do turrets target other turrets?
I know Symmetra's can destroy traps/ RIPTIRE but say if two Torbs place their turrets next to each other, do they target each other or the enemy Torb?
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>>149898130
She should.
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>>149898189
Because Zen's ult is trash compared to stronger DPS heroes
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>>149896529
very creative
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>>149888542
>Trasher mains unironically believe this
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D.va needs a buff
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>>149898207
They aren't taking it out until season 2

Because fuck you, we're Blizzard you'll paly our gay E rated TF2 ripoff no matter what >:}
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>>149898189
>mercy
>either heal one teammate or damage boost him by 30%
>dies fast because a lot of heroes can kill you easily


>zenyatta
>slightly less heal per seconds, can switch faster than mercy
>orb of discord on enemy
>50% damage boost for the whole team
>can do damage while both
>ult is basically your team becoming invincible against pretty much anything but dva or tracer ult
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>>149895207
genji, lucio, and tracer have lighter physics than all other charcters, thus they get pulled closer to you and sometimes behind.

Try taking a step back after pulling them before shooting.
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>get into a game against a well known streamer with thousands of viewers
>we are on opposite team and my teammate doesn't do shit, just spams "hello" emote and gets killed all the time

I want to curbstomp these people.
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>>149898407

>Can't play Winston anymore because of how badly he gets wrecked by all that armor

>Have to play Zarya 24/7 to melt the obligitory perma-matrix Dewrito

I fucking hate it.
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>Mercy is trash tier now.

Really I'm sad because I liked her.
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>>149897904
How much hand holding you you need? Junkrat is the easiest, safest, and most consistant m1 hero in the entire game. He has a good healthpool, ok mobility, and great damage. The only thing thats bad is his weakness on hitting on verticals(which currently there are very few that he cant lay into) and that if you miss that his grenades last a few bounces(which help increase his range on a flat or if hes elevated.

If you think he needs any buff at all you need to get good because rat is a decent low skill cieling character, and one of 2 defense characters that can be useful at any rank level.
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>"I am becoming one, with the objective"

Fucking hell, Zenyatta best hero
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>>149898575
Huh
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>>149898571
those shitty ass machineguns should do more damage and slow enemies hit
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>>149897934
It was at second checkpoint of Gib attack. Nowhere to sneak when the payload is right there as well.
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>>149898103
We haven't been given any dates afaik, but comp seasons will follow actual seasons.
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>>149898231
yes
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What rank is considered 'good' on competitive?
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>2 minute to attack
>team just stand at the chokepoint not moving despite me speedboosting and running in
>3 minutes to defend
>Mercy dies within ten seconds and everyone is just doing their own thing getting singled out one by one
Fucking hell I hate pubbies
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>>149898784
at least 60 probably closer to 70 unless you wanna get shit on by others
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>>149898103
august 18
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>>149898575
I like it because the trade into res dynamic was really shit.
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>>149898784
80 or higher
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>>149898575

>Give a character an absurdly powerful ultimate that changes the dynamic of the meta entirely

>Have to constantly chip away at it because it's so fundamentally necessary to win

>Left with shit hero with still good ability

Welcome to Symmetra town.
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>>149898784
Over 70 is good in my book.
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>>149896242
>>149896365
Shooting Reinhardt's shield all day.
Notice how high the dealt damage is compared to Zenyatta's healing and Rein's damage blocked.
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>>149898418
>slightly less heal per seconds

Zenyatta heals almost half as much as Mercy.
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>>149898905
>>149898935
>tfw 69

w-will I make it bros?
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>>149897280
well, i mean, at least mercy won't out-heal his DPS.
I had people throw god-mode accusations at lower ranks of competitive because they didn't notice me healing the person they tried to gorilla
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>>149898784
Winning.
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>>149898784
Above 60 is the top 10% of players so probably 60.
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>>149898907

>TFW Blizzard actually nerfed her turrets on console. The absolute madmen!
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>>149898784
People say 60 but i have not noticed any difference in skill betweem 50 and 70.
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i've played route 66 5 out of 6 games today
the other one was dorado which is the same type of map

fuck me
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>>149898784
>tfw 50 and stuck here
Ill just wait till next season. Doing you're placement matches is so much easier than actually playing it's stupid.
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>>149897489
my only FPS experience was with a console so that's probably why
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>>149888542
as a tracer player

no she fucking doesn't maybe a bit of an arc buff on the pulse bomb but that's a stretch
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>>149896987
> the only time my team took point was after I solo killed their zenyatta, telelported up, dropped down for a double kill death blossom, dueled their reaper and won, then finished off their winston still on point.
I had gold damage and eliminations.
Potg went to their winston for his sick double knockoff kill
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>play roadhog for the second time at level 115
>4 golds 1 silver

Fun.
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>>149898784
I'd say 65.

That's when you notice a sharp increase in coordination.

Its also when KotH is the only competitive mode because the other 2 attacking always wins and you just end up with a coinflip.
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>>149894248
i play frequently with a guy who called his btag Lúcio, he's actually REALLY fucking good
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Did anyone else notice this?
If you play during the day (2-7pm) ranked is extremely easy as soloq and you often rank up with ease, while late night (22pm-2am) the enemies are often a lot better and premades.

Is it because of all the kids playing during the day?
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>>149899390
>maining a character that works by passively existing

jesus. at least mercy requires you to hold down m1.
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>Hanzo and Genji mainer on my team that insta-locks hanzo before the mission start.
>check his profile.
>35 hours on Hanzo.
>check winrate.
>52% winrate on Hanzo.

This was on attack side of Dorado by the way, also disconnected immediately.

Is it me /owg/ or does that mean you're a shit player with those kinds of statistics?
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How to beat 5 dvas 1 lucio
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>>149899438
All the normies play during the day.

At night it's all neets.
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Most underwhelming hero in the game:
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>play roadhog
>good hook accuracy
>90% of the time the follow-up shot doesn't get the kill

Is there a trick? am I aiming at the wrong part of their body or something?
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>Slav industries
>we cap first handily
>playing reaper
>we have a zarya
>has ult up for 70% of match
>never uses it even though me and Ana have told her we have our ults up and have grouped up with her
>30 seconds left
>pops ult after harambe throws down a shield
>mfw
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>>149898706
D.va should fly infinitely while shooting and be in invincible mode as well t b h
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>>149899438
At night only the people who actually care about the game play it.
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>Zarya's ult is still considered balanced.
Fucking hell.
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>need to git gud at fucking ana to not be letting my team down

mercy buffs when
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>>149898575
She can revive a whole team and fucj up the other team's effort, she's still great for making the other useleslly expend their ults in an attempt to push
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>>149899525
windowlicker
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>>149899716
>use zaryas ult
>completely countered by enemy zen or d.va

not saying her ult is bad but if anything the d.va and zen buffs made her ult less useful.
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>>149899532
I've read that a lot of roadhog mains uses a macro, so after your hook you immediately shoot and melee
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>>149897525
Third loss in a row, got stomped on Nepal.
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>>149899716
what's the matter, your apm not good enough to eat it?
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>4 minutes of shit flinging.
>1 minute of team fighting with ults.
Blizzard need to fix this game desu.
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How's my driving?

Dial 1-800-get-rekt
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>>149899841
>macro
Thanks for replying kid but stop using words you don't understand, okay?
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>>149895119
Level 98. I'm not sure if I'm lucky or not but I have a lot of what I consider to be the best skin for some characters. The X next to Stonehardt means I'm saving up to buy.
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We fucking did it boys, all soloqueue, placed at 48, dropped down to 45, climbed back up.

Now to try for 70
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>>149899153
>i have not noticed any difference in skill betweem 50 and 70
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How do you identify an aim bot? I've had a couple of people whip around and lock onto me instantly, and I've noticed jerky movements on kill cams that look more like snap-precision aiming than twitch reflexes.

>tfw you hate cheaters but you don't want to get an innocent person in trouble
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>>149899974
How did you fail to understand that anons post?
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>>149898601
>and one of 2 defense characters that can be useful at any rank level.
But not any more useful than any other hero outside of Defense barring Symmetra.
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>pop zenyatta ulti
>people run back
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>>149894770

Myself.
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>>149900045
>people still don't switch
>people still don't focus mercy
>attack torbjorn
Same shit as always.
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>>149900085
Report everything

who cares
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Why

I feel offended just opening it
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>>149900103
chase them, nigga. you're not a racecar for nothing.
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>spend entire morning wrecking shit in qp
>suddenly put on team with 20s and 30s
>can't carry anymore
>lose 8 matches in a row
T-t-thanks blizzard. I love being 45 ranks higher then the rest of my team.
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Just remove medals Blizzard.

>I'm playing Widow on Attack but I have gold in team damage from hitting Rein's shield.
>I'm h-helping guys.
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>>149900085
What's going on in that image? Omnic crisis?
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>>149899514
Welp, I knew there were no counters.
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>>149900085
Just report them, in the comment field explain why do you think they are cheating. Blizzard will determine if they were cheating or not.
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>>149899539
>Coordinate ults
>We kill the enemy team
>Except for Mercy
>Fucking Mercy
>"Helden sterben nicht!"
>Get fucking obliterated by the resurrected team

Maybe Zarya player was waiting for the enemy Support to be dead, and that's like the Reaper and other flankers job.
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I want Widowmaker to fuck me with her 18" cock.
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>>149899532
hold m1 pressed down while the chain pulls the target in and while shooting press meele.
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Anyone feel like 76 is underwhelming if you don't have ult?

It's like saddening, it feels like after the nerfs that killing people at his favorite mid range is a potshot fest. Why play soldier if you can play McREE at mid range or Reaper at close range and be more effective.

Who /dad/ here?
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Just played 5 hours straight of quick play after doing nothing but competitive since it came out.

Why is everyone so fucking bad?
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>>149900045
I am rank 61 and, aim wise, I don't see much of a difference from 50-60. People just understand team comps. I guess you can call that skill but I am thinking at high 60s you can see the people with the aim-bot level aim.
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>>149900182
>seeing Mercy at all after the Zen buff and addition of Ana
It's like your team telling you "We really should just lose"

Mercy is fucking garbage right now.
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>finally try out competitive
>tryharding to the max - I'm nauseous and shaking after every match
>manages 9-1 win
>places 69
>immediately exits the game, go to the toilet and throw up

what the fuck is wrong with me?
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>yay, two purples in a box
>two 150 coin drops

Why is this allowed?
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>>149888542
She got one when they made it so mccree couldn't incinerate her with one FtH round, and when Winston became the weakest tank.

She is stronger than she was at launch and she was pretty fucking strong at launch.
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>>149900294
because quickplay doesn't give a shit about balanced games and would rather give you quick queue times.
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Christ not even LoL had this amount of alienation to a entire class in the game

Sort your shit out and stop balancing for low tier play, shitters deserve to have to get mad at characters they perceive as overpowered because no one should listen to their delusions, they are bad because they are bad
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>>149900207
yeah ill fucking chase my team away from the payload while the team just watches us
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Anyone else having a problem where literally none of their friends play this any more?

Out of all my friends (9) I'm basically the only one who paced himself instead of playing 4 hours straight daily for weeks.

I still really enjoy it but only one of them plays it and he only plays like twice a week for an hour or two at most.
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>>149891243
>>149888667
>>149892095
>>149893101
>>149898359
Have you tried killing Zenyatta during this patch as Tracer? Unless you land 100% of your shots he lives. And he only has to land 2 shots to kill you.
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>>149900294
Quick play legitimately makes me more mad than competitive because it's easy as fuck to do cheesy shit in quick play that gets shut down fast in competitive because people actually coordinate

good luck wrangling QP teammates to breach double torb/symmetra
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>>149900281
76 is fine. Honestly I don't even really like his ult that much. Although they should revert the spread change and just make it so it can't be abused by macros.
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>>149900281
>hero known for his precision DPS no longer has precision
It sucks and should be reverted. The only real "problem" about him was his burst with helix rockets, maybe slower their travel speed slightly.
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>>149900390
>Hog
>D tier.
no no not even this list is fucking awful, Roadhog will ALWAYS be top tier.
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>>149900261
>big icy cock
World's best popsicle.
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>>149900281
76 is more flexible and has greater utility than Reaper and McCree. Also with the new falloff nerf for McCree Soldier has the edge at longer ranges again.

It's a matter of deciding between having high damage at close range, high damage at mid range, or medium damage at all ranges with a burst ability.
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>>149900261
>>149900489
Wouldn't she be limp all the time?
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>>149900351
Mercy is still very good in sudden death, you only get 1 ult but with how short it is that's all you need and it's a fucking powerful one
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>>149900440
Normalfags, gentlemen.

Are you afraid to go to the toilet alone too?
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>>149900182
this shit still happen from time to time, but up from around 70 that's only a fraction of the games.
which you would know if you'd actually play at this level.
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>>149900484
With Zenyatta on almost every team he makes hog cry, pair that with him being a battery even for characters like Lucio, Hog is entirely situational and unfavorable
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>>149900440
used to play with 6 people premades every day
no one plays anymore
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Blizzard needs to just delete McCree. They obviously are not competent enough to be able to deal with him.
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>>149900442
>go near hero that effectively halves your already-meager max HP
>"wow tracer is shit!"
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>>149900085
The current public aimbot that goes around is not detectable by blizzard. what it basically does it grabs the healthbar and aims at it with a x/y offset.
In order for it to work they need to hit you first without the aimbot, so your healthbar appeas. After that you're basically a dead man.
I tried the hack myself and with the right offset I kill 150-200hp targets with 1 magazine.
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>>149900390

>Roadhog and Tracer in D tier

I can understand the rest but why them?
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>>149900650
Zenyatta shits on any tanks because Discord Orb is the dumbest mechanic in the fucking game.

Lets not start on how he counters 90 percent of ults either but you know just Blizzard things.
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>>149900650
Hog being a battery charge for enemy ults really is his biggest flaw. Other tanks can mitigate damage with shields so that the enemy doesn't get ult charge but roadhog just takes bullets to the face all day.
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>>149900650
>>149900484
At the highest level of play Hog is going to suffer because other classes do what he does better when everyone is skilled.

Below SR70 Hog is very powerful because a mediocre hog is going to be able to shut down a mediocre Tracer or Genji whereas the same player likely couldn't kill them at all without the hook.
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>>149900748
Roadhog is a liability aginst a coordinated team and will just give enemies ults faster

Tracer is just a bad Genji
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>>149900390
I thought d.va would be higher.
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>>149899525
Tracer.

The first time I played her I was stunned by how she just wasn't fast. I fully expected her to be as fast as she is with Lucio aura.
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>>149900748

Ah crap >>149900650 just answered this.

Funny how a couple of tweaks made Zenyatta A tier as fuck.
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>>149900390
>tfw constantly having to move through heroes because of unstable meta and bad balancing attempts
I thought the whole point of this casual shit game was to have fun but who can have fun when the characters you enjoy gets nerfed to shit and you have to pick up another set of characters to keep up with the competition?
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>>149900305
aim is just one part of the whole puzzle, it's more about comps and even more about coordination. Strictly saying you'd just need one or two people on a team that are good at aiming and even then it gets trumped by better coordination.
personally I'd say in mid/high 60s you'll notice the games will be significantly better in these regards and game quality overall.
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>>149900390
Defense heroes will never get buffed because of the tears and salt that pre-nerf Widow mined from pros and casuals. It sucks that an entire class of heroes are useless in tournaments.
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>>149892983
Better late than never.
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>>149900036
How many games played?
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>>149893245
The lucio was terrible or else your team didn't need much healing aka curb stompin sum pubs and he decided to focus on speed buff because you were there. So somewhere between dogshit and above average.

Other option was that he wasn't playing Lucio the whole match.
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>>149895263
Winston is still consistently one of the most popular tanks in high-level competitive despite Twinston getting banned
That being said, rebuffing his shield to 1000 or giving him a reset for jump-pack when scoring a kill would improve his use for the majority of playerbase
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>>149900440
>>149900656
The game is an unbalanced clusterfuck that punishes you constantly in a variety of ways just for playing.

It's really not all that fun right now most of the time. Their "balance patches" just keep fucking up the game and making certain heroes useless which is an obvious reoccurring problem with Blizzard.
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So why the fuck does competitive KOTH need to have possible five fucking matches? That mode can already drag forever in QP, even with the removed overtime. Didn't they wanted fast battles?
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>>149900898
>MUH META
Unless you're above SR70 the meta regarding anyone but supports doesn't matter.

Pharah and Tracer are objectively two of the least effective picks at the moment but that doesn't seem to be stopping >>149899968
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>>149901048
he played lucio at least one round, might've been ana the other
i played zen 1 round
i keep outhealing lucios though
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>>149893453
>WARNING PROPELLER
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>>149901062
A big reason I don't even bother with competitive is the match length. I don't really want to sit down and play a single 30+ minute competitive match when I can do 3 QP matches instead.
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>>149900390
>Sort your shit out and stop balancing for low tier play,
What kind of fucking crack have you been smoking? Blizzard devs have been balancing based on high skill/professional meta. If Blizzard balanced based on low-tier pubs we would've seen a Bastion nerf during the Open Beta and Pharah with some retarded amount of armor added to her HP.
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>>149900356
Ladder anxiety. You'll get over it after a string of coin flips and realising that your rank doesn't actually reflect your skill.
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>>149900970
No, defense heros will never be buffed because of shitters being unable to adapt and switch heros and will just brute force with the first character they picked in the game

Why Blizz listens to players who don't get the fundamentals of the game is just beyond me
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>>149898189
Because killing man dead is a million times better for the team then fluffing cocks.

Heal whores blown the fuck out.
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>>149900738
Yes, because no other hero has this problem.

When you have 200hp you can deal with him with all heroes.

Tracer is the only hero to constantly get fucked with every patch.
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Is MOONMOON one of us, /owg/?
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>>149901114
>Unless you're above SR70
So do I stop reading there? Hahahaha.
I just want to play Mercy and Torbjorn.
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>It's a /pol/ on my team episode
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>>149901304
You can't get over ladder anxiety.
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>>149900390

The problem is the opposite. Kaplan is absolutely obsessed with making Overwatch THE competitve esport game, so much so that Blizz is making retarded pandering decisions.
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>>149899438
I typically playing around 11pm-3am my time and the matches are usually good matches, sometimes really close ones but end up being fun overall

Better than steamroll or be steamrolled that I usually get during the day
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>>149901425
>thinks "le" is a 4chan meme
I want newfags to leave.
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>>149901301
If that was the case then most of the defense class would have been buffed as they have been shit tier since the game was released

The only defense hero who is the exception was pre-nerf Widow, who was overnerfed to shit tier
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>>149895591
I halved my sensitivity and it felt easier to track people I got my cursor on, when I could get it on them. It's pretty hard to adjust in my old age.
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>>149900751
Tanks are a dumber mechanic than discord. Hell tanks make discord a necessity.
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>>149901472
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>>149901553
Tanks are alright, the bigger problem is lack of counters. Besides zen and reaper there really isn't anything.
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>>149901515
How so?
They treat Mcree like their fave child but neglect almost everyone else

The thick fucker can't think balancing one hero at a time as slowly as possible will make it THE competitive game
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Why is DVA allowed to ult when you kill her mech fuck off Blizzard with your absolute fucking garbage balancing.
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>>149900390
>Zenyatta is now core

You made it champ
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>>149901735
It wasn't a big deal when her ult could kill her and was easily avoidable. It's pretty bullshit now though. Then again D.va in general is overpowered bullshit now.
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>>149901459
>I just want to play Mercy and Torbjorn
There's always Quick Play

Mercy will probably get a buff soon, but Torbjorn will always be garbage from now on regardless of platform.
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>>149901641
>Besides zen and reaper there really isn't anything.
How about firing at them outside of their effective range or focus firing them along with your team because they're huge as fuck and take every shot you hit them with?
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>>149901641
Roadhog, kind of.
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>>149898575
Zen makes not dying easy with stupid dps. Mercy needs a weapon (a life sucker or something) dedicated healers with no offense are a failed design
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>>149901301
>Blizzard devs have been balancing based on high skill/professional meta

Is this trolling?

Bastion has had nothing since release and is dogshit.
Mei got a minor ult charge rate buff but thats not even close to enough.
Trob has got nothing.
Hanzo actually got nerfed.

Why?
Because all these are low level pub stompers.
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>>149901546
Extremely low sens will feel weird at first but you'll get used to it. It makes it much easier to aim accurately.
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>>149900254
Dude, zen and ana had already popped ults, we were waiting on zarya to pull in all the tracers zipping around like wasps
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>In a game where DEFENSE and TANKS are separate classes people are surprised when one class clearly shits on the other

Hey guys, how about a new class, we will call it KINDA ATTACKY, they will just be shitter versions of attack heros
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>>149901870
Because you don't do any damage outside their effective range.

Damage falloff for everyone!
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>>149901945
Why do that when most tanks are better attackers than the offense already
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>>149901865
>There's always Quick Play
Call me what you will but I want golden gun points.

Even though they're actually pretty worthless since they keep making all these changes and you really don't know when or where the character you spent those points on will end up and if there will be any reason to use them tomorrow.
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>>149901945
Daily reminder that this ""problem"" goes away if you remove the labels.
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>>149901945
There is a difference between defense and a tank though.
Tank is just a damage sponge, while defense heroes are about keeping the enemy at range or lock them out of certain positions.
None of the defense heroes are tanks and suck at attack, meanwhile tanks can be played at offense and defense and have their own niche.
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>>149901940
Well, it's Zarya's fault there then.

But also lack of voice coordination, assuming there wasn't voice chat.
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>>149901945
The concept behind defense heros is okay their balance is just fucked. They're mostly low mobility heros with utility tradeoffs
bastion- stationary but highest raw dps in the game
mei - tanky for defending points, wall for keeping enemies out and a slow
junkrat - area denial and traps for detecting enemies
hanzo/widow - high damage at a theoretical lower risk
torb - low mobility, setup time, but with a turret for defending points and killing high mobility characters

the problem is they all just fucking suck in practice and in some game modes low mobility just doesn't work. They're just really hard to balance due to their inherent flaws.
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>>149901903
Mercy's offensive ability is her damage boost.

Unfortunately it's a bit too weak at the moment. They tried buffing it to 50% like Zen's orb but that made it way too strong since it's like placing Zen's orb on the entire enemy team. Winston with a 50% Mercy buff is godlike.
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>>149902198
But that's besides the point
The 7 worst heros in the game are all defense heros (yes Symm is a defense hero)

That is no coincidence
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>>149902378
Because 'defense' really just means 'niche'.
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>>149902360
>Winston with a 50% Mercy buff is godlike.
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>>149902378
Symmetra is not a defense hero just because you say it is, try not being retarded to skew your opinion
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>>149902360
That's great expect Zen debuffs and kills on his own. Bitch needs a real weapon
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>>149901425
>Using any Roadhog skin but Pigpen
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>>149894770
the fucking retard ana player who has no idea how to heal
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>>149894545

His weapon should ignore armor like Zarya does.
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am i the only one that thinks reinhardt is the stupidest character in the game?
>insane melee swing
>stupid fucking shield that makes him mandatory in every lineup
>oneshot charge
>fast charging ulti that can kill the entire team
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>>149900281
>1v1 against another dad
>I jump while shooting
>he doesn't always win when this conditions happen

Feels good to outplay other dads
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>>149901534
You wanna know why Defense heroes are bad?
They suck at dealing with mobile targets. They're meant to hinder or completely halt a traditional "push" that's lead by tanks. Which is fine and all, but since all of them lack reliable ways to get out of area (except for Widowmaker) and all have shitty HP, all defense heroes becomes dead weight against competent teams in the long run.

>>149901921
Yes cause those heroes aren't even that useful at high level except for the occasional Torbjorn defense on a defense point.

If Blizzard balanced for low-level they would be nerfing shitty pubstomp heroes like Roadhog, Torbjorn (nobody fucking cares about consoles), and Bastion because retards can't deal with them. Look at these winrates for competitive - keep in mind that the majority of players are mediocre at the game.
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>McCree has the best skins and is the coolest character
>You can't play him because Tracers and Genjis shit on you

IT HURTS
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>>149902631
Rein is great, but he isn't overpowered. If anything his low mobility has made him a less-popular tank in high level play. He's probably one of the better designed heros in terms of balance in stengths/weaknesses.
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>>149902727
Did you try pressing E?
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>>149901425
Dude is kind of annoying but people like him so thats cool i guess
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>>149902489
>Area denial turrets
>Close range DOT M1
>Slow moving high damage M2
>Teleporter for people to get to the point faster
>Only works on defense

BUT SHE GIVES PEOPLE 25 SHIELDS

Fuck
OFF
Her entire kit revolves around hunkering down in a area and defending it
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>Character that need small buffs

Monkey
Junkrat
Widowmaker
Mei

>Characters that need big buffs

Bowman
Trombone

>Characters with issues intrinsic to their design which should constitute a rework

Symmetra
Bastion
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>>149902727
>aim for the head
>click
>if enemy is close, press E, then aim for the head, then click
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>>149902663
Junkrat is good against Tracer and Genji

Well maybe not good, but he isn't helpless against them
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>play Zen
>die with 98% ult charge
>watch team die horribly to something my ult could have prevented while hovering back

This happens way too often. Or I get hammered down and the Rein goes for me first.
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>>149902847
toblerone definitely doesn't need big buffs. He still has one of the best ults in the game. He's just situational and mildly weak for what he's supposed to do. Big buffs would easily make him a monster.
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>>149902631
I think Earth Shatter is a really strong ultimate because it activates almost instantly if Reinhardt is standing on the ground and has insane range. Almost too strong.

Other than that, he's fine.
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is there a simple way to clear hero gallery unlocks without clicking through each one?
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>>149902954
Press E and LMB.
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>tfw rank 73
>still feel like i'm fucking shit
>actually can't wait for the next season so i don't have to be constantly anxious when playing competitive
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>>149902781
>>149902881
I always miss my flashbangs against Tracer and Genji and if I do that I am fucked unless I have pro aim which I don't
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>nerf Zenyatta's Orb of Discord to 30%
>do something about Lucio basically being a necessity
There, done.
>>
Anyone else do the following

>have a great match stay in
>as soon as some bullshit starts to happen
>take it slow and try a few different things
>then suddenly nothing but bullshit happens
>proceed to quit every match until you get -75%
>matches start acting normal again
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How do people hit anything with genji's weapon? Do you use the left click or the right click more often?
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>>149903020
The range on earth shatter is a bit absurd. It occasionally catches me off guard with how far it reaches.
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>loot box
>ooh legendary
>its gold

FUCK
come on blizzard
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>>149903020
I think his ult is balancedb y the fact that, even if that fucking bastion is right in front of you the nsoe small fuckign corner that doesn't obstruct your view somehow prevents said fucking bastion from getting knocked down FUCK
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they should just rename the defense heroes category to "specialists" or "situational heroes" so new players don't get confused and think that they're actually supposed to be used on defense
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>>149901425
Le was a reddit thing you collosul faggot.
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>That guy who picks Symmetra and doesnt switch after losing the first point
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>Forsen climbed from 58 to 70 solo queue in one day

How is he so good
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>>149903097
LMB for long range poke, RMB for close range targets. If they're low enough all-in with a dash and go for the kill/reset
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>>149903240
what heroes did he play
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>anubis
>enemy team picks useful heroes on defense
>doesn't rush out and die one by one when we are capping the second point
>my team instalocks genji phara mcree torb reaper on defense
>when they have 5 people on the second point teammates rush out one by one and we get rolled

Every.

Fucking.

Time.
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>>149903159
You would preferred a legendary you would literally never use?

At least you can spend dem shekels on what you actually want.
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>>149902356
Bastion probably needs a rework.

Mei isn't too hard to buff I think, being near the wall should apply slow, but not freeze. Imagine sticking a wall down the middle of a choke point parallel to an enemy team as they advance, and maybe buff her alt fire rate of fire slightly.

Junkrat I think is almost good, I'm not too sure what to change on him though. Maybe just make him faster?
Or rework his Mine to be similar to demoman sticky Grenades, so you can set up multiple at once, though since OW map design is so bad I don't think that would work because you can just mine and teamwipe people in the predictable 'THIS IS YOUR ONLY ENTRY POINT' places.

Hanzo I have no clue what to do with.

Widow probably should get her damage nerf reverted and charge time nerfed instead, it was a dumb change, especially since Zenyetta ended up getting the hp boost so only tracer is in 1 shot range now.
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>>149903240
he used to be an sc2 semipro so i'm not surprised he's actually decent at video games.
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>>149903159
legendary gold is the best legendary drop there is you retard
if you got a skin there would be a very good chance that it would be something you don't want
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>>149903064
So because you are shit, you think the character needs a buff against heroes he already hard counters.
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>>149903159
literally the best legendary drop. Would you rather have a duplicate skin or cybergoth zarya or some shit you didn't want?
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>>149903037

No but when you open a loot box click on everything and it won't show up as new afterwards.
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>>149903240
he's not

he has bad aiming and no game sense
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>>149902996
They just need to make his armor packs easier to give out and maybe not make his gun fire stupidly
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>>149903159
>half the legendary skin of your own goddamn choice
>this is a bad thing
Kill yourself you ungrateful dumb fuck.
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>>149903097
Left click at far range
Right click at close range
Do the combo a lot
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>>149903295
I would prefer a nice legendary.
But you make a fair point. I've only gotten shit legendaries so far lol
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>>149903215
>that guy who pick symmetra at first point at numbani and never puts any turrets on the fist-car thing
Is it so hard to jump down and panic-place them there?
the slow-down the turrets give is actually useful there
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>>149901009
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>>149903434

I put mine near the point because I know all you idiots rushing forward are going to die and I'm going to need to bide time while you all walk back to the point.
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>>149903335
I didn't say he needs buffs. If anything Tracer and Genji need to be toned down. If McCree is supposed to be their hard counter but isn't then that is a problem.
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>>149903215

>Symmetras who do this

When will they learn?
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>>149903215
Symm works well on inbetween points, if played well and you know where to put the portal.

Hell now with Ana boost, she works damn well for cleaning out the payload from red niggers.
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>>149902631
Winston's dumber.

Jump on any non-tank who isn't getting healed and they're dead eventually. He's just a heap of dead hp. The worst part about him is that that's not useless.
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>>149903159
>Legendary Blue Blue Grey
>Coin/Coin/Dupe/Voice

Greatest chest ever basically 800 coins.

Not sure why you'd want some shitty skin you'd never use over gold.
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>>149903587
No, she doesn't.
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Why did McCree leave Overwatch? I thought he was the prodigy or some shit
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Did servers just crash?
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>about to win
>LOST CONNECTION TO GAME SERVER
FUCK YOU
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Which role should I play in solo queue competitive mode? If I have to play tank, which tank should I pick?
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>be dead
>full HP McCree rolls up to Mercy
>flashbangs her
>misses the headshot
>tries to FOTH
>she kills him
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>>149903702
because overwatch was dissolved due to being shady and dealing with assassinations and stuff.
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WTF this game is making me so mad with these DC's, FIX IT BLIZZ GOD DAMN IT
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>>149903719
whatever your team needs

tank pick is also situational but if you only want to play 1 reinhardt is always solid. D.va is also overpowered if you're good.
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>>149903719
DVa, Zarya or Roadhog. If you know your team uses your shield, Reinhardt.
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>>149903719
Question 1: Dva
Question 2: Dva
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So I just noticed that D.Va's Junker skin has a mini Roadhog hook attached to the back, which means in hindsight that it's probably a skin referencing the Australian Junker faction that Roadhog and Junkrat are/were a part of. I feel dumb for not making this connection earlier.
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>>149903719
Roadhog or Zarya

Reinhardt sucks with shitters on your team
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>our reinhardt ultis into enemy reinhardt barrier
>game is now lost
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When my team have someone rage quitting every 20 second, there might be a slight something wrong with the ingame team balancing

>inb4 Git gud scrub xD
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>>149903683
Zero reasons, zero evidence, whoops how do I even dare to disagree with your hot opinions?

Maybe when you stop being a rank 20 mouthbreather and stop playing with incompetent faggots, you'll learn how good is she.

Until then, keep lying to yourself, and don't spend this (you) all at once.
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>another derank because of the servers crashing

wew
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>>149903240
EU players are bad compared to NA.

An EU player in the 70s is comparable to an NA player in the 60s.
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>>149891335
>Lucio
>not Reaper

You had one job.
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>>149903942
>playing comp during maintenance
wew
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>be reinhardt
>barely using my shield because I'm killing the entire enemy team

feels good, man.
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>>149903886
you sure its rage quits and not server problems dropping players?
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>>149904012
>4pm on a thursday
>maintenance
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>>149902727
>can use mccree but dont like any of his skins because of the gay mustache
>>
TRACER IS A CANCER
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>>149904084
>4pm
Blizzard is based in California. It's 1pm right now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUyoOUUE4YE

Ranked in a nutshell.
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>>149903996
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I've been reluctant to play Reaper just because he's such a fucking edgelord character, but I'm starting to realise, he's fucking fun.
Sneaking around dropping down on people with ult feels great man. Also, meatshots for days.
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>>149904084
There was a short maintenance between 8AM and 10AM PDT.
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>>149904012
The maintenance was over 10am PDT
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Daily Reminder Genji mains are the worst part of the community and that genji unironically needs a longer cool down on his Q.

>skirts edge of area throwing 1000 folded stars
>if not retarded gets ult in a minute or less
>rinse and repeat
wow such high skill
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>>149904229
League players are cancer.
>>
>baiting a Genji till he yell into the mic as Lucio


Can always tell big egos when you call them a shitter and they start throwing out how many gold medals they have. Well done, you lost a match with 4 gold medals because you play peekaboo with throwing stars
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>that moment when you pre hook a tracer main
i sometimes wonder if they're mashing right click or they give up
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>>149904196
not as bad as gengi
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>there are loreshitters in this very thread
Omg fuck off
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>>149903558
>Tracer needs to be toned down
>McCree can 1 shot her and she needs toned down
GO TO FUCKING HELL YOU COCK SUCKING LITTLE BITCH, I HOPE YOUR GOD DAMN FAMILY GETS RUN OVER BY A DAMN FRENCH TERRORIST TRUCK!
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so now that mcree got nerfed again can we get a d.va and gengi nerf and the game will be alright?
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>>149904336
>4 gold medals
>shitter

lol
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so what is the extra currency for? is it a future thing?
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>>149904312
>No support heroes
>Already have 3 dps heroes
>Roadhog and Dva as off-tanks

last guy locks in Genji
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>>149904389
>>149904449
>he can 1 shot her
>when she gets to melee range
>and doesnt bait out flashbang
>or presses jump making the HS way harder

yeah.. wow what a HARD counter that is!
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do people actually think this is funny?
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>>149904336
oh the irony
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>>149904624
Blinging out your weapons
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this meta fucking sucks
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>play on Koth
>Team shit talks us when they are 2-0
>We win 3-2


SALT RAINS FROM ABOVE
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>>149904652
bastion mains ruining everything
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>>149904591
Please do not nerf naruto

On basis of being too much fun
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>>149904652
Now it's better to play just comp because in QP you always get shitters like this.
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>>149904591
dva is literally okay, 100% hard countered by roadpig, only thing id change is stop the field from eating ults, its not fun for the new guy who doesnt realize
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Why are people so salty in Quickplay? It's goddamn Quickplay, not Competitive.
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>>149904651
the most clutch of Zarya shields
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>>149904652
>not playing comp

retard
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>>149904686
Don't worry they'll add more heroes instead of fixing the ones we already have
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>>149900226
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>>149904835
>the only thing i'd change is one of her greatest strengths
>okay
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>>149904651
This

She can run circles around him outside of flash range to the point where even top tier aimers cant hit her, or she can easily bait flashbang

Even Roadhog does better
>>
for my past 2 wins, I gained a whole level of XP each time. Has my MMR increased or was something patched? I usually get somewhere between half a level and a third
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>>149903996
Is there any fps that the US has beaten Europe at?
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>>149904434
>unironically using OMG

How about you fuck off you normie cancer
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Rein needs to build up ult when blocking damage.
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For Harambe.
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>>149905031
Rank xp is extremely arbitrary
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>>149904674
when someone trys barking orders into the mike as Genji or Hanzo i become toxic as shit
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>>149904651
>McCree can 2 shot body with a bunch her
>1 shot her with flash bang
>only requires to hit her 1 time if shes at 80% hp
come the fuck on faggot, get gud.
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>>149904652
>daily Quick Play whine
Comp has1 hero only. Why do you care so much about picks what in QP?
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>some kid gets buttblasted in a match and starts threatening to murder everyone's families

The fucking autism in this game lol holy shit
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>>149905110
>only plays unranked in dota
>only plays unranked in OW

How have you not killed yourself already
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>>149905031
you gain/lose more xp when on streaks
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>>149905105
Why? Rein is fine as he is. Your change would make him OP as fuck
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>>149905019
>run circles out of flash range

And wow, doing 1.5 damage to you. Sooo much hurt.

Seriously, how fucking bad are you to get killed by someone you hard counter? two shots faggot its' all it takes. 5 meters is melee range, her drop off is 10. His flash bange has a range of 5 meters when thrown with a two meter radius. You are literally push her out of her max damage range with it.
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>>149904651
Genji shits on McCree even more since the falloff
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>>149904686
>everyone except the two Reinhardts playing fun heroes

They should add in portable shield generators that anyone can use or something so the Reinhardt players can have fun too.
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>>149904686
I'm actually surprised Mercy isn't part of the Holy Trinity anymore. I thought we would always see a Lucio + Reinhardt + Mercy core on every team but nope.

If you want to bitch at Meta, bitch about how Lucio is going to always be on a team.
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>>149905289
If you aren't playing aggro rein, it takes forever to build your ult. And other heroes get ult charge when self healing (Roadhog gets about 20% if he heals 300 HP).
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>>149897795
>playing Overwatch on anything but Low

You do know that there is scenery that just straight up disappears when you lower your graphic settings, right?
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>>149905218

FPS games tend to attract tards so I am not surprised.
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>>149905340
Hard counter implies an 80-20 Advantage

McCree just has one ability that gives him a decent chance of killing them. If he misses it he is fucked

Winston is closer to a hard counter
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>>149905289
>Healers can build up ult by, well, healing
>Self healers can do the same
>Nothing for blocking

I don't know if Symmetra giving shields or Toblerone giving armor gives you ult, I haven't noticed, and I play Toblerone on defense sometimes.
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>>149905389
The fact he has so much god damn sustain is annoying as all fuck.

The faggot literally out heals Tracer.
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>>149904835
>i can no longer kill the enemy team by pressing q
How terrible.
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>>149905389
I can't imagine what they could do to lucio to balance him without making him complete shit. lowered healing would make him pretty weak. Higher cooldowns on his AMP IT UP might be a decent fix.
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>playing winston
>mfw I spot the enemy mercy alone and unprotected
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>>149905389
No. Speed aura is literally what makes this game fun.

The only way I'll accept Lucio nerfs is if they buff everyone's speed across the board.
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>>149905479
>Winston
>hard counter Tracer
>Doesn't understand it only takes 2 shots to kill Tracer as McCree
Look faggot, I get that you are bad, but McClick hard counters Tracer everytime, Just because you are garbage and can't aim doesn't mean he doesn't hard counter her.

And Winston does not hard counter Tracker. Tracer actually hard counters Winston and has for a long time, Because she can headshot the living fuck out of him and he can't touch her.
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Best Reaper skin?

Nevermore or mexican legendaries?
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>>149905525
They should nerf the damage on his weapon. That would make him more team dependent as well as stopping Lucios from being able to solo shitters.
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>Playing 2CP
>That one fuck that thinks its a good fucking idea to stand at the enemy spawn at the start of the round
>They die instantly
>get rolled cause 5v6
>Lose first point

WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN EVERY FUCKING TIME, doesn't matter how much I tell them to group up or get back with the team they think they can get an extra 1% ult charge or some shit and get caught out every fucking time, so tired of losing games like this
>>
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>>149905525
Lower his self healing by 1/3. That would balance him perfectly.
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>>149904591
Rank 69 dva player here, I'll give you the hot shit tips dva players don't want you to know.

Pick one of these heroes and click on her from long range.

Ana.
Zenyetta.

Or pick Roadhog and do Roadhog things.

Also she's basically as dogshit as she used to be if Defence Matrix is down or at low charge, if shes had it up a bit you can start to play more aggressively on her because its recharge rate is so fucking slow.

At least these are my biggest issues, also getting cornered by Rein but thats mostly down to your own misplay.
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>>149905240
>keeping track of someone you don't know.
>calls others a faggot.
Anon...
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>>149905758
nervermore/plague doctor

combine it with executioner highlight for maximum edge
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>>149905758
white
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>>149905758
Mexican because you get a cool sombrero and guitar
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>>149905669
Look I like to talk up my aim as much as the next guy but mccree vs tracer is maybe 60/40 at best.

Please stop saying the words 'hard counter'.
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>>149905818
that's actually a pretty good idea. with his high mobility and small hitbox he's hard as fuck to take out as it is. Lowering his self healing would make it easier to chip him down.
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>>149905197
>McCree can 2 shot body with a bunch her
good job she has the smallest frame in the entire game then isn't it?

>1 shot her with flash bang
Literally read what I wrote.

>only requires to hit her 1 time if shes at 80% hp

a headshot.

on the smallest, fastest hero in the game.
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How much damage should I aim for every match? I think my average is around 10k and highest has been 22k
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>>149905793
his damage is not significant

i'd increase the boop CD by 3 seconds so that he is not as survivable against someone jumping on him
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>>149905895
You don't understand what hard counter means clearly.

McClick is the hard counter for Tracer. Deal with it faggot, get good and stop bitching about literally the weakest character in the game right now next to Pharah.
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>>149905968
Aim to win instead
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>>149905850
lelouch is a faggot on every board
how new are you
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>>149905808
don't dump your hand turn 1
you'll regret it
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>Backpedaling away from someone
>Randomly get stuck on a bench/dumpster/car

wew
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>>149905389
I think he needs a longer cooldown on his amp or a slower ult charge rate.

I don't think you reduce any of his values.
Longer CD on his Alt fire wouldn't be too bad either since it mostly impacts KotH maps where hes really fucking strong.
>>
>try using the melee button as reinhardt
>nothing happens

I guess it makes sense, but I was pretty surprised the other day when I found out after 9 hours of reinhardt play.
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>>149906001
You don't understand what hard counter means clearly.
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>>149905669
McCree maybe hard counters Reaper at rank 70+.

But nothing counters he below rank 70. and that's a problem.
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Reminder that McCree's flashbang+fan needs to be 100% guaranteed kill on squishies for it to be viable

headshot is still better
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>>149905968
why the fuck do you care? not all damage is equal. just try to win

you are as stupid as people who care about accuracy %
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>>149904652
What's the point of playing quick play if you don't want to dick around and/or train with your worst characters?
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>>149905936
>smallest frame

This is how I can tell you are a baddy, bads like yourself don't have the right to suggest balances.

Tracer right now is easy as fuck to counter. And Even a very good Tracer can be shut out by having a bad team. Unlick McClick who is able to steam roll on his own.
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>>149904854
>zen killed himself
???
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>>149891974
But muh quickscopr noskill bodyshots!
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>>149906001
I am not him but no he isnt a hard counter hes a soft counter. A hard counter is one where there is very little reason for the other person to stand a chance, like winston and widow, mei and dva, and roadhog and any squishy. McCree is just as like to die from tracer as is vice versa. It probably is a 60/40 or a little better, but it is not a hard counter.
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>>149905110
>solo quick play

i'm so sorry..

>>149906070
woops I meant to say Tracer not Reaper lmao. McCree fucks Reaper at most ranks.

>>149906137
>Tracer right now is easy as fuck to counter.

name 1 counter. Seeing how I, and a lot of others don't think McCree counters her.

>And Even a very good Tracer can be shut out by having a bad team

what lmao?

>>149906141
Nah I killed him 2nd, but the animation hadn't finished on the kill feed
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>>149906137
>no mobility
>hitscan
>steamrolling anything
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>>149906204
>Just as likely to die
Except no.

The only time a Tracer will have a chance against a McCree is pointblank range, and that is if he somehow misses both of his shots. or 1 of his shots.

Even if she lands all headshots McClick will kill her first.
>>
I REALLY WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP PLAYING TORB ON MY TEAM
>>
I wonder if ana + lucio will become more popular in the competitive scene. It's a crazy strong healing combo and Ana's ult is broken as fuck in the current meta.
>>
>Queue ranked
>Lost connection to game server

Thanks Blizzard :^)
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>>149906331
No.
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>>149906279
?

hitscan is always strictly an advantage
>>
how is blizzard still so incompetent
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>>149906279
>2 shots most heroes
>1 shots all base heroes with Zenyatta around

Just because you can't aim, doesn't mean hes not overpowered as fuck.

>>149906415
>I'm just going to ignore all stats and say no
>because I'm a complete shitter, I find its not fair unless I have 100% advantage over the weakest characters in the game
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>>149890701
placebo effect.
>>
>my team decides to pick the lowerst trash tier heroes in MY game

I lub dis gaem fug :DDD
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>>149906457
could be worse, look at the last tf2 update
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>>149906331
>and that is if he somehow misses both of his shots. or 1 of his shots.

Which is very likely unless you are against rank 70+.

>>149906446
not him.

but not ALWAYS.
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>>149906398

Zen still does more than Ana, discord is broken and his ult is a direct counter to half of the enemy teams ults.

If you have a Lucio you already have your initiation for the whole team, an Ana ult for one person ontop of that isn't worth dropping Zen for.
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Yeah, fuck this. I keep getting DC'd every fucking time now.
Time to take a break from this shitty game.
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>>149906474
>>149906331
>only time tracer has an advantage is when shes in range
>you can pick her off out of it :)
Every characyer can pick her off out of her range but that doesnt make them hard counters.

McCree gets 2 shots to kill her. If he misses he loses. He has the advantage but that doesnt mean its a hard counter.
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>>149906474
Of course I'm going to ignore all the stats you don't have. You're the one saying either of these two has a 100% advantage over the other. Are you high?

>>149906446
You're forgetting that you can't shoot through Reinhardt shields.
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>>149906590
>Let's balance the game for shit people
>this way 70+ have an even easier time
This is whats wrong with you faggots. You think balancing the game for shitters makes the game fair.

It doesn't, you balance a game based on the very best, not the very worst.
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Reminder if you play anything other than these heroes you need to uninstall
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>>149906013
that's a lie and you know it.
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>>149906727
add zarya and remove pharah and you have yourself a good list
>>
>added 150 people from the /owg/ ID list
>nobody online

LMAO
>>
>>149906727
>76 over tracer
>no Zarya

Add those 2 and u hit the hammer on the head
>>
Is anyone else getting server disconnects?
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>>149903996
>EU players are bad compared to NA.
>Because I said so!
>An EU player in the 70s is comparable to an NA player in the 60s.
>Because I said so!
I hope the EU community isn't just full of beta fuck bois like you.
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Do you guys like my gf's Dva cosplay?
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>>149906716
>This is whats wrong with you faggots. You think balancing the game for shitters makes the game fair.

You can change her to be counterable at lower ranks and still used at high ranks retard.

>It doesn't, you balance a game based on the very best, not the very worst.

I agree. But that doesn't mean you can't rework around both high and low level so that lower ranks aren't getting ass fucked.

Also the rank 70 is like the 3rd top percentile of players.

I don't give a shit if the top 3% of players can counter Tracer and the 97% has to get fucked by her.

Then the hero isn't a 'hard counter' moron.
>>
>>149906775
>Responding to low tier bait

End yourself
>>
>>149906780
>>149906780
>>149906780
>>149906780
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>>149906837
Not like the list is purged or anything
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>>149906727
>no Genji
>Pharah at all
>no Zarya
>Roadhog at all
>no Zarya
>Mercy at all
>no Zenyatta
Nice meme.
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>defending Hanamura
>everyone at the chokepoint except two people
>our Lucio runs up to their door alone and dies within a second
>Reaper tries to wait for them to get a kill from behind but gets the same treatment
>this is a rank 70 game
Why the fuck man
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>>149906727
>muh meta meme >>>> enjoying the game

If you could grab a rope and off yourself, that would be great. Ask your other MUH META/MUH HARD COUNTER buddies to join you, too.
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>>149904327
he hasn't played league in like a year
>>
>>149906864

Nice jewnose I rate 10/10
>>
>>149905218
Was he playing Reaper?
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>>149903996
>best team in the game that is on a winstreak of like 50 matches already is 5 europeans + 1 token burger
nice dominance ameritards
>>
>>149906929
shows up fine to me
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>>149905818
This so much,I abuse him too.He is just insane the fact is he literally never dies.Except maybe he gets ambushed alone,but you still have a knockback and can switch auras to speed away.

If you are constantly near 3-5,at best 4-5,you will win the game mostly alone with purehealing.And if you are low you can just run around a corner and aura yourself for a second.

The only thing really dangerous things are 1v1 and ult combos(which some you can outplay with your ult).

Just lower the selfheal and he should be ok,so he dies easier.
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>>149906727
>Pharah
>Viable after the last 2 patches
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>>149906957
It's not even a meta list.
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someone post zenyatta stats
need to compare
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>>149906042
>indoors, almost dead, followed by some fuck trying to finish me off
>jump over table to get the big healthpack
>get stuck on the back of a chair, get killed
>my dead body now sits on that chair right next to the health pack
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>>149899524
>normies play during the day
>normies don't have jobs

No.
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>guy in chat calls me a shit healer
>get a card at the end for 43% of team damage healed
Is there any better feeling?
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>>149907129
>during the day (2-7pm)
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>>149907087
Just use MOW and go to the hero pages:

http://masteroverwatch.com/heroes/18-zenyatta
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Was mid 50s, had a killer losing streak, now 48. Haven't played in days (medical shit). Have mic, will be sociable. In NA.Come play with me?

Virgil#1666
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>>149900098
because a macro wouldn't help in that situation, you literally just hold left click.
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>>149906001
>>149906204
>>149906331
>>149906675
McMeme main here.If you are at range you can snipe her down.But if you are in 1v1 with a good tracer will have the upper hand.You have 3 jumps to dodge the flash,if the flash lands you are most likely dead when he shoots you in the head.

Or he stands right infront of you to hit the whole fan.If a tracer has every cooldown and is at full life,she has the upper hand.But if she is damaged you maybe can land a headshot and she pops instant,otherwise your chanches are slim except you hit the flash.
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>Play comp
>Dominate Dorado Attack - 4 Golds
>Get kicked by Blizzard's absolute shit servers
>Stats reset
>Come back into them winning
>lose coin flip
>teammates leave one by one saying fuck coin flips
>lose
>because lol no stats lose a full rank after match

Yeah I'm fucking done with competitive.
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>>149906727
>No Genji
>No Zayra
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>keep getting hooked and stunned through my deflects
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>>149906043
Lucio is played more for no other reason than he has more survivability than the other supports. The point of his alt fire is not the KotH maps (though that certainly is nice), it that he can push people away to pronlong fights which gives him time to either outlast his opponent, to allow his teamamtes to (hopefully) come assist), or to just run away.

Mercy has some with her ability to fly to teammates, but that isn't always useful.

Zen has jack shit.

Ana can get lucky and land a sleep dart which just lets her run away or get a kill in very specific conditions.

Sym...can be addressed by Blizz soon with any luck.

In short, don't fuck with his alt fire, I'm sure as (I assume) a non-support playing person, you will not enjoy the meta/community afterwards.
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>>149890835
I'll add you tomorrow. Name is AtlasAbove.
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>pro overwatch
>accidentally kill yourself
>lose your team the game

LOL
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So June had Comp, July had Ana
August should be a new feature and we'll have a new character by September/ October right?
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>>149908986
New maps
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Why does people never heal Torbjorn?
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>finally get play of the match as zen
>it's a sub 1k transcendance
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>>149891867
He can't block damage in any way. The other tanks all take much longer to kill
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>>149895115
>Widow
>Buff

She's still overpowered
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>play Zenyatta
>my entire team clump up around the payload as the enemy contest it right before checkpoint
>enemy Genji becomes the dragon
>I pop Transcendence
>then I watch as my team scatter in every direction to flee from Genji
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