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little known fun-fact:
shield-bearers are like annoying little harmless attention-seeking pets when all their friends are dead

And I still didn't get jack fucking shit good from all the 100% of the weapon crates on that map.

>Just got javelin on my Fencer
I am so fucking fast, holy shit.
Is it actually useful as a weapon though?
Doesn't really seem to be doing shit to the bugs.

Looking for people to play with, Just started playing today and this game is awesome. None of my friends play this though. From europe btw.

steamid= solid_snake457

>>149818967
Fuck off Lucifer, you piece of shit.

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>when you survive a blast from the genocide gun

>>149819259
>Is it actually useful as a weapon though?
No.

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>bombing plan D

>>149819731
psst.

hey buddy.

It goes up to F.

>>149820128

My body is not prepared then. I must admit having dabbled in wing diver I do like the sort of DPS she can put out but its not the same as bringing down the hammer of the emperor upon these tyra- I mean giant insects.

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>mfw dragons

>>149820319
Since you have D, here's the low-down on E and F.

E: Hardest 73-89 / Inferno 38-89
F: Inferno 61-89

>>149820319
>>149820461
Oh, and because I'm a fun guy like that
D: 1100.0 5400 10 20×4 Aircraft
E: 8700.0 5400 10 10×1 Aircraft
F: 4400.0 5400 10 10×4 Aircraft

>>149819259
>Is it actually useful as a weapon though?
Not unless you dual wield it.

Anyone mind carrying my bitch ass through some inferno weapon farming? I have a decent amount of WD health but I can't make any more solo progress without something shootier then the 50-ish range guns I'm carrying now

>>149820461
>>149820618

GLORIOUS

How can other classes compete? (hint: they do not)

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>>149820373
>dragons fire attack does damage far outside the area where the flames hit

You can't actually reflect the spider's bullets.

And the ants are resistant to their own acid.

>Air Force as Fencer
>Dash cancelling everywhere and using spinebreaker
>Eventually get completely swarmed and die.

There's got to be a better way. What Fencer weapon categories are good?

>>149822758
Shields and artillery are good.

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>>149822758
'AVIN A LIL PROBLEM?
AINT NUFFIN' MO' DAKKA ISNT SOLVIN'

>Be farting around in the Hard-tier Vegulta
>Bunnyhopping to the next horde, hit A while in midair
>Turns out you get an extra 4-5 seconds of flight time from the jets after the initial jump burst

Neat

To save our mother Earth from any alien attack!

>>149823819
From vicious giant insects that have once again come back!

How do I chat in the lobby?

>>149826226
T

>>149826226
T. If the host hasn't turned it off.

>>149819731
>warzone 2100

Holy shit, I loved this fucking game. I want to see it remade, exactly the same but with updated visuals, steam integration, etc.

>>149819292
pls respond

anyone

>Lunostar

MUH DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK

>>149830042
Sorry, just got rekt. Not in the mood to play.

>>149830042

Gimme 15 minutes and I can jump in a game

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Okay, soldiers, time for a test.
You found yourself a nice girl, and you fancy declaring your flame to her. Unfortunately, she raises bugs and love them.

What to do you?
[] Shoot her down.
[] Incinerate her.
[] Pummel her.
[] Call an artillery strike at her house.

>>149831651
>[x]All of the above

>>149831716
That's the good answer. Congratulation, son, you're promoted!

>>149831651
[x]pound her with Balam

>tfw EDF recruit
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxDKd48FOHE

>>149830042
>>149830843

Okay either you fucked up your own profile link or you don't exist. Either way, I can't play with you

>>149830042
I'm wagecucking in america sorry maybe tomorrow
Also >Tfw taking a shit on the clock
Take that manager

>>149832496
>taking a shit
>not leaving one instead
Gross.

>>149831651
How do you think the invasion in 4.1 started?
[x] all of the above

>>149832676
Why do the ravager even want the Earth? They kill everyone, so they don't want slaves or genetic material or biomass, they destroy everything, so they don't want gold, water, food or any ressources, and their giant insects are most likely ruining Earth's ecosystem, so they don't want to colonize it either.

>>149833492
Dunno, and honestly, don't care. I like them more not knowing how or why they do the crazy shit they do

>>149833617
If you don't understand why they're attacking, you'll never be able to win the war. You may win a battle, but they'll come back. And again. And again.

>>149833861
And so will the EDF.

The giant insects may have evolved in 8 years, but the EDF's technology has also evolved!

>>149833492
They want some place to keep all their cool bugs.

>>149834169
And yet, at the end of 4.1, mankind kinda lost the war.

>>149834170
Any PSNiggers up for farming Machine Party on Inferno in a couple hours?

I actually prefer Insect Armaggedon over 4.1.

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>>149834630
Shit, didn't mean to reply.

>>149833492
Space Vikings
Raid and pillage, just because they can
Not for gain
But for a glorious death

>>149834945
>for a glorious death
>they never fight deirectly
>send altered native lifeforms and robots

>>149835052
They're waiting for you to fight your way to the final boss.
They just have a LOT of minions.

I'm a bit tired of playing Fencer.
What other class should I start levelling up? Ranger?

>>149835407
Air Raider.

>>149835407
Air raider
Vehicles are fun

>>149834823
I forgive you. I don't even own 4.1.

>>149834641
>I prefer apples over oranges

I respect your opinion bro. But only if you beat IA on inferno.

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>>149834823
Don't answer the attention whore.

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>>149835736

>>149836031
I DID NOT MEAN TO

>>149836095
What? I own 2025 and am currently playing the Vita game. I also owned 2017 back when I had a 360. I will get to 4.1 eventually.

>>149836176
YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO EDF TO ANSWER THAT ATTENTION WHORE

>>149836425
I bet you're going to play wing diver

How much more vidya would you play if you weren't spending time in multiple threads

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>>149836557
SIR, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN, SIR

>>149836859
I tend to play ranger, actually.

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>>149836867
YOU BETTER

>>149836859
What if the next step in the EDF series was you taking the fight to the ravagers?
At some point one of the TOP SCIENTISTS is going to piece together how ravagers accomplish space travel thanks to the endless amount of wreckage and data the EDF has

>>149837120
That trip code is different.

>>149837167
They should just recruit XCOM scientists.

>>149837314
Yeah, Lucifer changed it because the old one got cracked. Now that attention whore is using a secured tripcode and pretends he never used any other trip.

>>149837167
>What if the next step in the EDF series was you taking the fight to the ravagers?

That would be a bit of fun note to end the series on. Doing it before the end probably wouldn't work though.

>>149837416
I have used the same secure trip since DaS1 launched. Feel free to check the archives if you don't believe me.

>get off work
>have two days off to play EDF
>smash a cockroach on the way out the door
It is time comrades

What's the combined rate of fire from two Javelin Catapults? I only just thought about this so I could try eyeballing the ammo counter when I get home, but I could also just ask. From what I remember of the sound it seems like in the range of 600 - 800 RPM?

Can't wait to find a double catapult one of these days.

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>first red hornets
>now red dragons

>>149839687
Stay strong brother
EDF

>>149839687
Is there any reason to use javelin for dash cancel instead of a shield?

>>149841160
It's much faster

>>149841160
If you use a melee weapon to attack you're technically cancelling at the same time. Shields and catapults are good for traveling but you need to kill things too.

Hopefully someone here can help me out. I've been playing 4.1 for a while now and noticed that while my other classes are slowly gaining armor, my Wing Diver was still at 150. I spent a few missions farming armor crates but was still at 150. Then I checked the battle log or records screen or whatever and discovered that it is meant to have 192 armor at this point, yet in-game and on the equip screen it's still stuck at 150. This is all in single player and not happening with other classes, is there something I'm missing or have I encountered some sort of glitch?

>>149844156
Adjust armor value in class loadout. Just hix maximum or adjust manually.

>>149844474
That did the trick. Odd that I never needed to do that with the other classes.

>>149821987
wtf are you talking about, I kill ants and spiders with their own juices all the time.

In fact on Hardest and Inferno it's the best way to kill the Mutants, with a Fencer's shield.

>played Crimson for the first time
YOU WANNA LIVE FOREVER INTENSIFIES

"Giant insects are flying?!"
"NOTHING WILL SURPRISE ME AGAIN"

Best line

>>149844156
You may have entered that screen once to check it out and unwittingly selected the option to lock your armor there. The max armor option should always update automatically.

E

D

F

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Can somebody please help me with this fucking mission? I've been stuck on it for days, even on normal pubs are simply too retarded.

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>>149851284
>>149851436
>>149851516
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!
!

>>149839380
How do you use a Catapult properly?

>>149852028
You use it for dash canceling and nothing more. Don't listen to the morons who pretend it's viable as an offensive weapon on anything beyond Normal.

>>149852028
Look at ground to fire forward, only rely on them in tunnels.

Actually looking at the weapons list again, the catapults are listed as having a fire rate of 20.0 (1200 RPM). If that's the fire rate for each catapult when fired together, then the twin catapult should be doing 20 * 2 * 90 * 2 = 7200 DPS. Seems nice even if it's half that amount, but the fencer has to be stationary and you have to look at the ground for it to work.

>Fencer
>Farming Crimson
>Everyone dies on the last phase and it ends with me dashing, kiting and rescuing everything for 10 minutes straight.

My shift key is going to break at this rate.

If I'm farming Mission 32 Inferno as a wing diver, what should I use on the Queen besides Idunn? Thunder shotgun? Thunder sniper? Reflectron?

Also is the Reflectron V or D better?

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>>149820373
>tfw dragon grabs you through the wall

>>149855438
If you have the Thunder Sniper 40, use it.

I'm trying to do split-screen on PC, have a controller plugged in that my PC recognizes. How the hell do I get the game to recognize the controller for player 2? I'm stuck at Player 2 Press Start, I've pressed every button on my controller and nothing works. Do I need to bind buttons to my controller in the game first? If so, how?

>>149858089
Your friend will just have to use a keyboard and mouse.

>>149858089
>use keyboard to start game (player one)
>start bro-op
>games asks you to press start
>press start on controller
>success!

When changing loadout, you can only use the input device that corresponds to the correct character, ie, controller cannot do anything while inside player 1's equipment menu, and visa versa.

controller and kbm have separate menus, too, that are not useable by other people, and custom settings! Player 2 counts as it's own profile, it just shares all your loot and achievements.

Word of caution: weapon crates are not shared (for obvious reasons) and the character that picks them up, gets it.

>>149858538
>Player 2 counts as it's own profile, it just shares all your loot and achievements.
>weapon crates are not shared
I don't understand how these two statements are compatible. Is Player 2 a cloned set of characters on creation that will operate separately from then on?

>>149858538
>games asks you to press start
>press start on controller
>success!

What part of "I've pressed every button on my controller and nothing works" did you not understand?

>>149847282
"Balam pilot, accelerate your mass to increase the force of the impact."
"JUST PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE!"

>>149858089
What kind of controller are you using? If its not a Microsoft controller (like Dualshocks), you may have to use 3rd party drivers / emulators to make it run like a 360 pad. If you already did that, did you run it before opening Steam?

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SATELLITE
BLASTER

Killing those red drones with a Grape was suffering

>>149837416
>pretends he never used any other trip
Likea clockwork.

gosh, just torrented this game and its so much fun, why it has to be so expensive?

>>149860653
Because it's new, dug.

You know, if EDF wasn't so over-the-top, it would be pretty nightmarish.
>one army that's in charge of the whole Earth, has excellent PR, and don't answer to anyone
>could theorically pull a coup and take over the world
>giant insect that defy logic and common sense, and can probably empty entire cities in a few minutes
>high mortality rate among the EDF, even during victories

>>149861156
There is a reason why the most common conversation amongst EDF troops is "Why did you join the EDF?".

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>>149861330
I blame EDF's PR. The trailers for 4.1 are hilarious. Just watching them makes you want to murder some bugs.

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>trying to get weapon drops on Crimson on Hardest

>getting nothing but weapons at level 10 and under

So I missed the sale. Are there any safe places to buy a key for cheaper?

>>149860135
Holy fuck, I figured it out. Had to change the name of the dll on my emulator for the game to recognize my GCN controller as a 360 controller.

>grinding late levels as Air Raider
>all I want is the fucking Balam Type-B
>days of grinding later
>get every other available unlock within the bracket BUT the Balam Type-B and the Skytrap Wire 12W

T-thanks

>>149862369
Glad I could help. The first shitpost was me until I realized that it could have been a genuine unrecognized controller problem.

GCN pad? Unusual for PC play but whatever floats your boat.

>>149862004
>Hardest
Machine Party on Inferno is usually better tbqh

Why does this game love and hate air raider so much?

>Regularly Bro it up with different artillery teams and your vehicle drop girl
>Entire mission dedicated to them getting their shit fucked

>Give tons of cool airstrikes
>Main threat late game is just a bunch of hexagons that exist solely to cuck airstrikes.

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>Grom SS

>>149862459
I'd rather use a 360 pad for a shooter, but I don't have the required adapter for it. I do have one for my GCN controller from when I used to play PSO Blue Burst, I got too used to playing PSO with a GCN controller so when I transitioned to PC, I picked up an adapter to continue using a GCN controller.

Still looking for people to play with. And yes I did fuck up my profile link earlier in this thread.

This is my real steam id: solidsnake_457

>>149863225
Don't forget all the fucking cool toys they get that are worthless.

Roller bombs and assault beetles that you actively need to watch to see when they're under/attached to enemies, and then they do shit damage anyway (assault beetles also frequently attach to allies if you're not careful).
The claymores that do shit damage, for all the standing around you'll never be doing.
The sentry guns which burn all of their ammo firing at shit through walls and also do shit damage.
The barriers to stop projectiles for all the standing around you'll never be doing.
Extremely limited use heal guns.
Guard/Power posts to buff allies who are never close enough to benefit.

Honestly they need to be able to have a Limpet gun slot, 2 equipment slots, and then a vehicle slot. And even with 2 equipment slots, they'll always be airstrikes or arty because everything else is so god awful.

I only play the class so I can drive a tank or walker around killing bugs.

>>149863636
I forgot to mention, for all those cool toys, you also need to stand around uselessly for 45 seconds on most of them to reload them.

>>149863636
>The barriers to stop projectiles for all the standing around you'll never be doing.
>Guard/Power posts to buff allies who are never close enough to benefit.
>implying
Get good teammates.

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>>149863636
>bringing buff posts
>not bringing superior buff guns instead

>>149863636
The class could be improved by unlocking the equipment cooldowns like holstered Wing Diver weapons.

A lot of other things on the list are more of a coordination problem. They'll work well when the team is committed to stand their ground and win through firepower. A portable bunker and plasma chargers will help a team of Monster Divers with any of the rapid fire crowd control weapons to do a lot of work.

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>get into this game
>play SP on hard, go for the ranger class
>its too easy
>play on the next difficulty level
>cant kill shit, die swarmed

>>149864797
Welcome to EDF, scrub.

how much % off was steam sale? any of you soldiers bought it from resellers like g2a or kinguin? thats probably my best bet for decent price

>>149866098
Kinguin is fine. Just do it.

>>149866234
going to hit the town and put some cash on my account. fun incoming

>Thunder Bow 30
>Charge Phase 3 Inferno
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR

I'm playing mission 10 on hard as a ranger. What weapons do you recommend? These flying SHITS are raping me.

>>149866959
Air Force mission? I did it with a rifle, wasnt too hard but had to stay on the move while taking advantage of the enviroments, particulary the bridges.

>>149867172
After the "big nuke cannon explosion thingie" there are like litteraly like 100 flying aliens around me swarming me. I tried hiding under a bridge but I lasted about 1 minute, they just wittle down my health. MY armor is about 250 btw and I'm using a shotgun to one shot them...

>>149867282
Use quick homing missiles and just spam them in the air while running away.

>>149867282
I gathered both AI squads and moved below the bridge. I think I've found a pattern to avoid their shots so I never went below 150HP (out of 220) but cant remember how it was.

Fuck off tripfag. You don't even play the game.

>>149867537
>>149867360
I ended up hiding under the bridge with a shotgun in the reverser to keep healing myself. Got pretty hectic in the end when the fucking bridge collapsed but I managed to survive. Too bad I wasn't fast enough to collect all those drops. Also I don't think I have a quick homing missile. On that subject, are the missile launchers any good? They seem to be too slow to be actually usefull.

>>149867792
The fast ones are really good. Things like the air tortoise are not.

>>149867792
People say they're good to deal with the flying shits but I dont know, I've always found myself more comfortable with an assault rifle and a rocket launcher. I had the MLRA-30 for the mission10 but ended up switching to the assault rifle because it wasnt killing fast enough.
Im on the mission 15 though, so I dont know if that'll change eventually.

Are there traitors in the EDF? The NPCs love walking in front of me while i'm firing off artillery which leads to rockets exploding in my face.

>>149868201
Yeah. Some Wing Divers are scum fuckers who love to stand in front of you and then blame you for the friendly fire.

>J3 sniper rifle
Am I cheating?
Because it feels like I'm cheating.

>>149869031
You won't feel like that when you'll be surrounded by spiders.

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>start a mission with the acid gun just to see what its like
>im expecting it to be stupid funny piece of shit
>mfw im melting bugs left and right

>>149869428
Shit I'm starting a Ranger right now.

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>>149869428

You should see the vegalta fireghost - twin fucking flamethrowers. Playing crimson with it will have the tide break against you.

>>149818149
On the EDF weapon website what des PTFP and TTFP means?

>>149872842
I believe it's straight DPS, and DPS factoring in reload time.

>>149855347
The key is to send out one bait near the mountains so all ants converge on him, then have him lead them into a kill zone on the sand

>>149873386
Is there a bait item?

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>>149861156
Mortality rate be damned if the world was ending to giant insects and robots I'm not going down hiding in some hole
Give me a gun and I'll take as many as I can with me
E D F
E D F

>>149873508
Yeah. In the lobby you set your class to Fencer or Wing Diver.

Are there any cheat engine scripts out there which automatically pick up weapons/armour crates for you? Don't wanna cheat but picking up crates isn't blowing up aliens so I cba

>>149873625
And you don't aggro more insects by being one or the other.


Or so I say, but I never actually bothered checking how the AI works in this game. I know they usually start by attacking civilians, then NPCs EDF, and then you.

>>149873615
Watch the Depth Crawler trailer on Youtube.

>>149873734
>dont wanna cheat
>but i wanna cheat

LUL

>>149873734
Play online and have someone else do it for you.

>>149873807
I don't want to boost my armour/weapons up with the scripts
I do want the drops you get legit but don't want to farm them. I was hoping there is a cheat which picks them up for you.

I hope that's more clearer for you!

>>149873508
You ARE the bait son
Run out there and wave that tasty human arm, then run like hell back

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>>149873991
>asking a fencer to run
Good one m8

Even with Dash Cancel, you get rekt.

>>149874114
Javelin Catapult makes you sanic fast. Not sure if you can outrun black ants on Inferno though.

>>149863636
You're going to fucking NEED the barriers for the mission where you fight three Argos at the same time.

>>149875235
>black ants
Please no. Red ants are already a pain in the ass.

What's the best mission for a nub Ranger to farm?

>>149877082
Health or weapons?

Takedown on easy is fairly good for farming health; clear out some buildings, let the ants come to you. Weapons you probably want to get something better than the starter guns (just play a couple hard missions) then run Mission 2 to get some level 40-ish guns. Those will carry you through Normal with ease and mostly through Hard. Volcano B10 is fantastic if prone to friendly fire.

>>149878110
Mission 2 inferno, right?

>>149878240
Yeah. It's two faves of black ants and they'll spend most their time shitting acid on civilians. Just stand back and use a launcher/sniper. Don't get ballsy and rifle them unless you have to; at sub-500 health you won't survive being bitten. Weapons to look out for are the Volcano B10, Stingray M4, Five Card XB and AF19 or 20.

I don't mind grinding for weapons, but fuck the armor grinding is horrible.

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/23530/

Anyone played this? Is it good? I want to get my friends into EDF but they won't drop 50 bucks on 4.1.

>>149879157
It has way less weapons than 4.1 but is also way less tedious. All armor drops are replaced by a level who depends from your score.

And heavy armour isn't a pain in the ass to play and have a very good shield.

>>149879024
God I hate grinding armor, wing diver especially. But for Inferno it becomes necessary to some degree, and I needed a HP boost just to survive the final mission solo

>>149879157
Insect Armageddon is garbage. It was made by a different team, has 45 missions total across three difficulties (4.1 has ninety missions PER difficulty, and five difficulties), the scale is much smaller and the weapons feel like goddamn pea shooters. Also you can't shoot out of bounds where enemies like to fuck off and hide.

>>149879157
It's on G2A for like 28 bux if you don't particularly mind seond-hand.

>>149879157
Insect Armaggedon is way better.
The enemies don't leave corpses behind, the grinding is way reduced, the radio briefing are hilarious (especially the part when they use High schoolers to translate Japanese), the class are vastly different, and fencers don't suck ass being slow constantly.
But there's no dash cancelling.

>>149878660
I have the Stingray M4 and the Five Card XA. Time to git grindan then.

>>149859073
Player 2 has it's own settings like sensitivity, screen shake and loadout.

Weapon crates are not shared between the two characters because that would be cheating.
>pick up 10 crates
>get 20 weapons

>>149859265
Maybe you're just using a dead controller or unaware that playstation controllers don't work on windows without third party drivers. It 100% reliably works for me.

>>149879157
Insect Armageddon is the DmC equivalent for EDF

>>149879157
It's good, but it's like a lite version of EDF. Pretty good as an introduction, but you won't sink that many hours in.

>>149879626
Hold out for the Five Card XB. It's considerably stronger, has 4 times the range and the shots ricochet, making it hilarious in underground levels.

>flamethrower has recoil
What.

>>149880135
It ejects fuel at high pressure.

>mission 16
>Fencer
This is legitimately impossible.

>>149873940
Still a bit confused that you dont want to cheat but at the same time do want to, can you clear it up for me a little more please?

>>149881728
He wants to cheat in a way he feels like he's not cheating.

>>149880135
Ever turned up the garden hose all the way? Now imagine a firehose shooting a much heavier, thicker fluid

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>>149882271
>Now imagine a firehose shooting a much heavier, thicker fluid
I do that everyday. Sometimes even more than once a day, when I'm bored.

come play some multi

http://steamcommunity.com/id/honkotron

us east

>join a group of 3 players
>fencer kills me twice with explosives to the back even though I'm standing still, hits another player too
>fencer walks into field of blue blinking timed detonation grenades
>other ranger runs in front of me while I'm firing stingrays
>they kick me

OK.

>joins a server
>everyone is using the microphone
>tell them I'm muting them because I can't hear shit
>they start shittalking me
>kick me
Okay faggot.

>>149883359
I think some people don't realize how loud the game is because I run into so many people on their mics who sound like the fucking Pyro and you need near-dead silence to understand them. TURN UP YOUR MIC VOLUMES, FAGGOTS

>>149883571
Some people need to turn them down instead.
>join server
>hear keyboard typing and heavy breathing
>game starts
>breathing intensifies

>>149883685
Or that happens, yes. Or people who have the game sounds coming through their mic. One game I could hear everything in game twice because some random's mic was so loud, and he adamantly ignored us asking him to turn it off. Kinda annoying you can only mute people from the room menu and not during missions.

>>149884017
Or that they feel insulted when you tell them you're muting them.

>>149883571
>>149883685
>>149884017

How do you adjust in-game mic volume and turn it off? I've seen people have theirs set to off but I can't find the option.

>>149884209
Game doesn't have an option for adjusting mic volume at all; they can be disabled in room settings but I think that's a host-only thing. Muting anyone can do.

>>149884209
When you're in the looby, go on the faggot's ID, press Enter, pick "mute", press Enter.

>>149884308
>>149884367
But sometimes people join in and their player card says VOICE: OFF. Is that the game failing to detect any active mics, or a toggle in a menu somewhere?

>>149884453
Because there's no mic.

>>149884453
I'm honestly not sure. My mic has its own mute button if I want to turn off mine, so Im not sure how to mess with it in the game settings

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Welcome to mission 94, most of the larger enemies are inactive until you get near them, the drones don't respawn until the Fortress starts moving, and you can see all of the enemies a mile away.

The most effective strategy is to sit back with a couple of snipers and pick off the transport ships while everyone else holds the enemies at bay, which honestly isn't hard so long as the Deroits and the Hectors aren't aggro'd

The LEAST effective strategy is FLYING INTO THE TRANSPORTS and waiting for it to open, all the while aggroing everything on the way and leaving the Air Raider and Ranger to fix everything for you

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>>149885210
I'm helping!

>>149885210
I swear that's the fucking third all out attack the ravager pull out already.

You know what I really love about this game? That it sometimes tries to give you semi-realistic things alongside all the craziness. I just had the chance to try out the helicopters for the first time and they pretty much handle exactly how a real heli would handle and even takes its sweet time to rev up and lift off like it should. I have experience with Planetside 2 ESFs so the controls came to me naturally, though its obviously a lot more sluggish.

The animations are all exceptional for such a budget game too. Even the reload animations, while not stellar, do not suffer from the usual high-speed "hands operating air" syndrome that a lot of game with these many weapons suffer from.

>>149879024
It is really time to use Cheat Engine at this point.

I've already started. Fixed 60 armor and 40 weapon crates per mission; not too much but not too little either. It's so much fun to actually play the mission rather than run around collecting boxes.

>>149887787
Thisi s why Insect Armaggedon is superior. You don't have to grind the armor.

>>149887942
Apart from where it's the worse game in literally every other respect, sure.

>>149888017
Geez, we get it, you're mad because it wasn't developped by your superior proud japanese master.
Calm down.

>when you call in 4 balams

>whan a balam is summoned and the pilot get cocky and dies instantly

>>149888334
It is flat-out a worse game, and nobody is coming to this general because they're playing it.

Now the grind in 4.1 is fucking abysmal -jap games in general love having awful RNG for reasons I don't understand- and I have been trying to get the Monster-S to drop for TWO DAYS and it is not fucking happening. I hate that as much as anyone, but IA is not "superior" because there is ONE thing it has over 4.1.

>>149889002
Geez, I get it, w all get it, you're paid to shill 4.1, you can stop spamming now.

>>149889002
>less grindy
>80% cheaper
>not weebshit
Meanwhile I didn't hear a single IA flaw or 4.1 Advantage come from you. 3 > 0, therefore IA > 4.1

Just obtained the Stampede M2. It's an artillery barrage in your pocket!

What are some decent mid game weapons for WD?
I've been rolling with a laser chainsaw and an Idunn-D so far for most of the missions but I kinda want to switch it up.

>>149890905
Use Idunn-D and Laser Chainsaw then.

>>149890357
AI cons :
>heavy armour is easier to use, shield is automatic and regens constantly instead of being reloaded only when it's dead
>many missiles launchers don't require manual lock on and can be spammed
>tunnel exits have less HP but cannot be destroyed for good until you plant a charge on it, which requires more strategy than just shooting it until it dies
>reviving teammate is free but requires time, ranger require less time making it less tedious to revive everyone
>no armor grinding
>your characters actually respond to Ops and Intel
>civilians don't get in the way and are way less annoying
>if you pick health kits while having your health full, you get "armor boost" which counts as a second health bar
>you can fasten the reload by hitting the reload button twice
>anyone can jump OR roll, there are two separate buttons
>monsters bodies aren't persistent and don't block bullets
>only one reskin : normal/robotic instead of 4.1's normal/red/black/silver/gold

AI's flaws:
>no woman except for Ops, it's a sausage fest
>heavy armor has two weapons instead of four, and can't reflect
>only 9 level compared to 4.1's 90
>stil a grindfest to unlock the higher levels even if it's less tedious
>enemies cannot grab you
>you don't have any melee weapons
>heavy armour has a move that gives them a lot of invulnerability frames and is OP
>all hectors and giant queens are completely invulnerable until you hit them in their weak points unlike 4.1 where you can just shoot them anywhere
>you die at the end
>it's 2casual4us

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>still no medieval mod

What is that EDF song inspired by again ?

>>149893307
Ain't it a birthday song?

>>149893307
battle hymn of the republic?

Uh, so is the City of Horror mission supposed to be nigh impossible to beat for the Air Raider by himself? There's no way to earn the credits to call down something like the Balam B and so ammunition for the only cheap vehicle you can call down will have nowhere near enough ammo for them all.

>>149897541
It will have enough ammo to kill enemies required to call down the next vehicle.

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>>149898123
>City of Horror
>Calling down vehicles

I'd just stick to something that can tank a few hits but can last a long while since you only get 1.

Might want to bring a skytrap for this one. Keep those NPCs close and try to protect them.

>>149889580
Geez, I get it, you're a fucking retard.

>>149899769
Why is this man's hair forming a hat and changing color?

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>every single grunt line is a cliche death flag

>>149900249
"Making promises like 'after this battle, I'm getting married!' will just leave you dead."

>>149900249
>every fucking line is a cliché
>"You killed my men! You'll pay for thi-"

>>149900249
"Steak for dinner tonight!"

>>149900505
Chie, do you know any other word that starts with F?

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>>149901572
Uhmmm... Fsteak?

>>149902007
Excellent! All together now!

>>149885210
>sit back with a couple of snipers

???

Play it like an MMO. One by one. You don't need to be a pussy ass shit everytime it's a transport level. I carried a Fencer with my Wing Diver by just circling around.

Do you guys use controller or M+KB?

>>149905146
I use a wheel.

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>>149905146
Yes.

>>149905363
my nigga

I want a thick and juicy steak.

>>149908063
I'll protect you with my life, commander!

>>149855872

>farming Charge 3 for days
>literally nothing else new can drop except the Thunder Sniper 40
>still don't have it

>>149905363
How is that anyway? Any reason to use it over an XBone or PS4 controller?

>>149822758
> Equip dual UT1 miniguns
> laugh maniacally as you unload 1800 rounds into a swarm of aliens before you even need to reload

>>149912862
You'll be glad to hear that that particular series goes up to UT3 and is 4x stronger than UT1.

>>149913120
Eh, I said UT1 though because it was the easiest to unlock. You can easily grind for it on missions 2-3 which are piss easy on hard

>>149913120
>shit you'll never get to use because Fencers in Hardest/Inferno are useless and Rangers/Wing Divers/Air Raiders are 10x more useful.

>>149913743
76-89 or 40-89, shouldn't be too difficult, anon.

>>149912790
I still have a X360 controller and fall back to it every once in a while depending on the game, but for the most part and save from a few little annoying details it's surprisingly good, IF you enjoy customization that is.
Third person games work like a charm when you get used to trackpad+gyro combo, I wouldn't play a "more serious" RTS or a FPS with it though.

>>149913743
>fencers useless in inferno
maybe you should just stick to ranger anon
if you can't reflect orange ant poop shotguns or dodge crimson charges while jousting giant insects then it's just not the class for u

crack to let us pirates play MP WHEN

>>149914602
>Rangers/Wing Divers/Air Raiders are 10x more useful.

>MP mission 96
>There's 3 hives and like 4 tunnel exits
>6 hectors and 40 drones flying around

How the fuck are you supposed to beat it? We can get to the part where everything is dead except the hives and tunnel exits but as soon as we shoot one we aggro everything on the map and die,

>>149914973
7-10k dps is something that ranger could never hope to achieve

What's a good ranger setup? Like what are the best weapons to use?

There are really no "best in slot" weapons. snipers shotguns and homing missiles for anti air. automatic weapons and grenades for ant swarms, sniper rifle for crimson/dark crimson ants I guess. Shotguns too. Prominence or sniper rifles, maybe dumbfire rockets for big tough tanky enemies. Sniper rifle for death queen. There's not really a "this weapon kills all enemies better than any other weapon" in the game

> Unlock BM03 FW for air raider
> Try it out on the mission where you're fighting red ants on the beach and the mission right after that
> Massive boner while burning bugs left and right while wading through corpses

I AM A SEXY FLAME THROWING GOD OF WAR

>>149918059
I like using an AR and a Rocket with Zoom.

Is there any real downside to the Ranger by comparison to the other classes?

Feels like they're pretty tanky and their weapons hit pretty hard regardless of what you pick. Alot more than most of the Fencer weapons anyway.

>>149921418
Rangers are generic and arguably the slowest of all the classes.

They're hella fun though.

>>149921418
>can't fly and get sick chain lightning AOEs that cut around corners and aoe through entire swarms and carry your entire team with MLG evasion+dropship assassinating skills.
>can't shield and get sick nasty DPS, can't go fast with dash cancels. Can't be cool AF and MLG pro 420 noscope jousting lance fencer who reflects projectiles on a whim
>can't be a cool guy and drive all the vehicles. Can't be a cool guy and summon satellite laser attacks or airstrikes that level the entire city. Can't be a cool teamplayer and bring all the offense/defense/healing beacons and walls.

>>149921418
They're versatile.

Which means they can't tank like the Fencer, can't support like the Air Raider, and can't go super sonic like the Air Diver.

>>149921418
The weapons I like the most for Rangers are shotguns with tight spreads (for focused killing power), rocket launchers (nice to have a good explosive blast that flies in a straight line) and fire pillar grenade launchers (perfect for tight corridors in underground missions).

So I've farmed out Inferno 2 as Ranger, where should I farm next?

>>149922546
try progressing through the levels on hard first. With item limitations those inferno weapons won't help you get good.

>>149922546
Crimson.

Who else watching Starship Troopers whilst waiting for their buddies to get back from work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGHCoVzqtk

>>149921418
>>149921803
>>149922131

>Get the MLRA-TW 73-89 Hard, 07-89 Hardest, 01-89 Inferno
>20x 0.1s lockon for 2x100dmg with a reload of 1.7 seconds

Ranger has some choice weapon selections, 'specially the Special segment.

>>149923653
What an anti-air beast.

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>summon Depth Crawler after previous one gets destroyed
>mid fight, in some shit
>it appears on the roof of the tunnel

>>149922546
If you're

>>149877082
>>149878240
Then just have some fun running the game on Normal/Hard for now and stack up some armor. Farming anything more worthwhile will need stacking up at least some HP so you can delve into the later Inferno levels

>>149924107
Do you drop more crates in normal and hard or can you grind armor in easy mode?

>>149922546
81 or 91.

>>149924824
drop rates are the same, weapon loot drops FROM crates are level/difficulty based

>>149924926
So I can farm armour in easy Crimson. Good to know.


Ha, but the weapons are limited.

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Is there any way to retrieve crates from deep water?

>>149925457
Depth Crawler.
I think.

>>149925043
Yeah, farm Inferno for weapons, Easy for armor. The mission Takedown (12 or 13) has three dropships dropping only black ants. Bring a launcher to clear out some buildings, kill the AI and the ants will swarm to you constantly. You'll get armor drops for as long as you can be bothered farming.

>>149925457
Get into any vehicle.

>>149926007
>Any vehicle
I know you're bullshitting because I tried that shit with a tank. Blew up almost immediately after going under..

>>149925897

If you want to be a huge faggot you can go to an Easy level with nests, clear out everything but one nest, position yourself with a high level weapon with a short reload time (or that can otherwise sustain constant fire indefinitely), and just AFK spawn camp for hours with a weight on the fire button.

just realize when you farm for weapons it's only rly useful on whatever difficulty you're farming for. If you skip straight to inferno you'll blow chunks at normal/hard/very hard cuz you won't have items that are allowed on those difficulties. Just play through the game on hard/very hard before inferno so you get some armor up and dont burn out by actually having fun

>>149927360
esp. considering there's rly nothing on inferno worth rushing for

>>149927360
>>149927789
Footnote: Level restrictions are -not- enabled on Single Player.

Pro: any weapon at any difficulty rate usable
Con: Mission Progress is separate in SP/MP

>>149928092
>Con: Mission Progress is separate in SP/MP
FUCK

>>149927360
Inferno doesn't drop only inferno-tier weapons, you will get weapons suited for the lower difficulties at the same time. Also, Single-player has no weapon/armor limits, so you can pick up some inferno weapons and use them to stomp your way through Normal and Hard.

>>149915573
run back as quick as you can. Kill all the drones and hectors. Then once you get a calm moment engage one hive. Kill the bugs and when that hive is dead, move on to the next.

That was how my team did it. 2 engaged the hive while 2 guarded.

POST WEBMS

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Dear Rangers

I immensely love you if you focus on oneshotting flying drones and leaving me to focus on the ground shit

makes my job as fencer a lot fucking easier

>>149928092
Seriously, I really don't like that you can't toggle restrictions, say you play online a shitton and wanna do offline cozy like on your own without cheese who fucking knows what item levels are at what difficulties/levels. 4 real

>>149837167
The shit part about that is,
how are they going to counterattack in a relatively decent time when by mission 60 earth already lost 60% of it's population.

>>149934218
you unlock restrictions

>>149881728
He wants to cheat but he wants to work for it semi-legit instead of just setting everything to 9999. I wouldn't mind farming for crates but the running to each drop takes 5ever especially as a ranger with only dodge rolls so I understand the desire for automation.

Now stop being a faggot.

>>149937030
I think he's saying that he wants restrictions in the offline mode as well.

EDF has a good chance if they start putting Wing Diver weapons on ground infantry and vehicles.

>mfw battle tanks with Gungnir main gun, pintle-mounted Idunn-FF, Rapiers in place of smoke launchers

>>149936827
Load the remaining population on colony ships and go after the fuckers.

>>149938264
If we had the Fencers dual-wielding Ranger guns, they'd be wrecking shit left and right.

>>149938439
I'd play that game inb4 it turns out to be like R-Type's Bydo shenanigans

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>>149933568
>playing a Fencer, unironically

>>149938564
Speaking of Ranger guns, why do we not have vehicles making use of the crazy "Uses too much power to practically use on an infantry unit" energy weapons, like the Plasma Bombers or Fusion Blasters?

>>149936827
Arm the remaining population with genocide guns.

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hi!

>>149938912
Really, all the EDF would need to win is to have all of their units as well-equipped as the player.

Omega Team seemed to handle themselves as well as Storm team, what with their reloadable fusion guns.

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>>149939116
FUCK YOU

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>>149939116

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>>149939116

>mfw

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>>149939116

AIR RAID BANZAI

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>>149862424
FINALLY

So I heard that Steam version is region-locked to whatever you set your "download" zone to? is that correct?
Will I be fucked if I select any USA or Japan as an Euro? seems like most shit is client-side isn't it.

How are you supposed to beat mission 16 as a Ranger, it's impossible not to get completely swarmed

>>149942938
fix bayonets

>>149938564
If we had Fencers carrying WD plasma generators (what the hell is powering the Fencer armor and their thrusters then?) which they should be easily able to considering the size of their weapons, the Ravagers wouldn't stand a chance. Diver weapons are already designed to be lightweight and be energy-based to remove the burden of ammo; doesn't this mean that Fencers should be able to easily carry twin Monsters and 4x to 6x generators, all self contained? Or be capable of properly using and aiming the particle guns since they don't need to fly while having enough generators to fire indefinitely?

EDF 2050: Revengeance should just recombine the classes once again into some super powered monster.

>>149837416
>They should just recruit XCOM scientists.

Which universe's?

The ones that LOST the fucking war against the Ethereals, or the ones that let the sectoids and humans fuck each other, thereby losing the real war?

>>149944087
Pretty sure the excuse is that WDs are psychics and the plasma gens require a psychic to use. And apparently only girls can be psychic.

So clearly the answer is female Fencers

>>149944087
>>149945786
Most homing weapons detail about a Mind-Link, so I suppose the bullshit-fi is some sort of 'inherent natural prowess' that females have, coupled with their lithe form making them exceed in maneuverabiliwhatdsivb I don't even know.

>>149945480
Two different canons, and it wasn't the scientists fault. The first new invasion ramped up too fast for them to keep up, but technically they were still capable of reverse engineering alien tech at ridiculously fast speeds.

EDF has had the better part of a decade. All they had to show for it is Balam, which didn't work properly and couldn't do what it was designed to do. They were lucky that Balams could be made to punch things that were weak to punching by pure coincidence.

Oh, and Wing Divers and Fencers. At least they got those right. Sort of. Rangers have a base health of 200, Fencers 250. Great armor you got there.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CFz-X5Z3vs

Cast in the name of God
[YE NOT GUILTY]

>>149945786
>>149945917
What we need are Armored Cores with transparent cockpits in which the girls float naked.

I made an easily configurable .bat and .vbs file that you use to automatically back up you save on game run so you can unfuck it later with zero issues. It's even set to autorun the game everytime it's run so you can just play and not worry about your backups.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2qPyAqxjpcmbHFndVl1TTlhbjQ/view?usp=sharing

The readme explains how to set up.

>>149946131
Rangers are super hardcore though. The weight of all that power armor and shit adds 50 armor, which means a baseline EDF soldier is 4 times tougher than a power suit.

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>>149946823
It's so beautiful

>>149946823
Can you actually add custom lines like that, or is just editing?

>>149945917

Only the WD homing weapons are said to be mind-linked, and they all blow ass anyways

>>149947805
You can add custom lines, but only text

>>149948148
Ah, that's still really cool, though, didn't know about that.

>>149945480
The one that can make groundbreaking discoveries in DAYS.

>>149945786
I thought that the psionic link had more to do with their flight and homing weapons, not the plasma generators.

Either way, why hasn't the WD's psionic link stuff been harnessed for better flying vehicles?

>flying lightweight balam
>jump off a fucking skyscraper and drop kick a kaiju
FUND IT

>>149949852
Because Balams can't fly.

But that brings up a decent point. Why not use the psi link to control the Balams more effectively? And use more Ravager tech to make them lighter and faster? And enough thrusters to fly around like a Vegalta? And enough guns for a truly balanced super robot?

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>>149950137
Fund it

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What I want to know about EDF scientists is why they fucked up so hard on the BM03 heavy cannon mech. Like I can get the slow movement speed but god damn that torso twist haha niggas what you even thinking damn son

>>149950354
GIANT FLYING INSECTS?
THEYRE ADVANCING FASTER THAN SCIENCE

>>149950354
EVOLUTION FASTER THAN HUMAN WISDOM IS IMPOSSIBLE

I wonder if everything sounds as ridiculous in Japanese as it is in English

>>149950557

I've played enough English localized games to know Japanese games are full of western memes.

>grabbed by ant as Air Raider
>no escape, no way to break free, certain death unless an ally kills it

This is pretty fucking suffering

>>149951023
If you're gonna die, might as well go out with a bang

>>149951023
>not designating a whale strike to destroy yourself and everything around you

>>149951023
>not bringing C30 to ensure a quick death

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> M 29
> Oh boy look at the preview shot and description, this is going to be like that fucking awful downtown mission with nothing but Hectors again
> Launch mission
> HOLY FUCK EXPLOSIONS EVERYWHERE
> FUCK WE GOT TANKS AND INFANTRY STORMING ACROSS THIS HUGE OPEN FIELD TOWARDS THESE FUCKS
> SHIT SHIELD MOTHER FUCKERS GOTTA PUNCH THROUGH
> MECH DESTROYED GOTTA CONTINUE THE FIGHT ON FOOT
> LIMPET BALLS EVERYWHERE
> MOTHER FUCKERS BE DROPPING LEFT AND RIGHT
> RANGERS GOT SWARMED BY ANTS GOTTA NUKE EM IT'S TOO LATE IT'S WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE WANTED

fucking best mission in the game so far

>>149905317
a couple hours late, but is the bike even slightly controllable with it?

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>>149944087

>EDF 2050: Revengeance should just recombine the classes once again into some super powered monster.

>EDF:2050
>aliens are back again, with alot more bug types and kaiju
>all classes are now in power armor

>rangers get mobility power armor that lets them jump high and slide dash like megaman

>Air Raiders have transforming power armor that lets them run aorund normally and than transforms into a motorcycle letting them drive around at high speeds while able to fire their weapons directly forward as they are mounted to the bike in bike mode. Also lots of transforming robutts to get dropped in for you to pilot.

>Wing Divers given special aerial power armor that uses thrust vectoring for fast movements like jumping take offs and quick dives, or barrel rolling, etc

>Fencers even more heavy hitting, and now physically larger than other classes, essentially a small mech suit that lets them field 4 weapons at once. Able to use boosters to slide/skate around on the ground and do quick thruster boost hops/dodges. Two arm weapons, and 2 shoulder weapons. We Armored Core now. Only 2 weapons can be fired at any given time while retaining normal movement, but all 4 can be fired at once if the fencer goes into lockdown mode and plants their feet to the ground with anchoring spikes that prevent them from moving and basically makes them a turret.

>to compensate for all classes being very mobile and powerful, all bugs are strong and fast as fuck

>>149952494
>fencers just control like mechs from armored core 1
Time played: 919472919 hours

>>149952494
Rangers: Master Chief
Air Raiders: Mospeada
Wing Divers: Macross Valkyries
Fencer: Tank-leg ACs

I like it.

>>149951674
>so far
You aint seen nothing yet, anon.

>>149951674
Mission 23 was great bro, especially with a Balam

>>149951023
Caesar/Skytrap Wire

>>149953945
Tank legs are not what you think they are.

>>149952494
Boost hopping is specifically for energy conservation though. No point unless the Fencer has a power bar for energy weapons. What would best help them without being overpowered would be to remove the speed restrictions on some weapons like gatling guns and allow them to move normally like autocannons (the one reason why I actually like the Galleons).

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What I would really like to see is Storm Team having the 4 classic classes in new powered armor, but all the other regular teams have to use the old 2025 equipment. Their equipment starts further down the line (like AF14 -> AF99) and upgrades slowly as missions go on.

The catch is that the player in 2050 starts out as a no-name soldier who has to earn his place in Storm Team about 1/3rd through the campaign.

I just started playing and was wondering if air raider vehicles get better later. Right now they feel super clunky and not really worth using, but I like the idea of calling in air strikes and driving stuff

>>149957798
Vehicles at the beginning are going to feel clunky because they are. Later on vehicles handle much much better