/dsg/ - Souls General

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I find dark souls 2 better than 1, i had more fun on it.

doing my best

>>149717348
What if my favourite knight is Gough?

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Cross-posting:

>>149717161
Great weapons are not so great because of a lack of poise. That is what balanced them out in previous games.

>>149717228
Who published the game doesn't directly effect my gameplay experience, but what is actually in the game does. So no, I don't care about publisher pressure. That same pressure was put on DaS3, and you can really see that when you compare it to BB. However, DaS3 is still competent, and you don't have volcanoes hidden in the sky.

>>149717348
>People that like Arty are Edgy
>People that like Smo are fat losers
>People that like Orn are bros
FTFY

>>149717727
It means you're gay

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Mommy Rosaria! I love her lots and lots!

>>149717781
Shut up unless you can dig/draw/write us up some Rosaria /ss/

Who's ready for a Londor DLC?

>>149717781
can it, ringfinger.

>>149717161
It's a natural thing like we said some threats ago, they'll always be reactive since they're the slow and punishing sort, which means that their ability to win or lose never depends on your, but rather, your opponent's (lack of) skill.

>>149717397
>Ivory King was so alpha he fucked that spawn of evil into being a good natured person with good intentions

I hate this game

I hate that str weapons are an afterthought, underpowered and overnerfed, with retarded limitations
I hate that katanas are overpower since the first fucking game. That running attack was broken since its first installation and they NEVER fixed it.
I hate that buffs still are flat instead of % giving even more of an advantage to fast weapons
I hate that bamco has to pander to its baby new target audience that needs protection from invaders, and retards willingly chose to protect those people as "sunbros", also knows as fucking babysitters
I hate that from will never push the better parts of the game, like the rivalry between reds and blues, instead, it's more redditsun pandering
I hate that they made sure reds and their covenants are completely useless and have all disadvantages possible.

I hate that this game is SO close to being really fucking good, but it can't because this new generation of "gamers" is made entirely of entitled babies.

Yes I'm mad.

>use an UGS or UGA
>target is left with a tiny sliver of heatlh while you go into negative stamina

>>149718481
>makes a post acting entitled as fuck
>complains about entitlement

Lol, wut?

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>>149717571

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>>149718481
are you talking about das3? I have yet to play it.

>>149718481

Agreed on all other points except:

>I hate that katanas are overpower since the first fucking game. That running attack was broken since its first installation and they NEVER fixed it.

Katanas are actually the most balanced they've been in a Souls games here imo, the only really OP attack they have is the running attack which is pretty predictable and has little range outside of the washing pole. Though the fact that Katanas aren't very terrific outside of this running attack and their AR and speed being lacking compared to straight swords/curved swords, people just gravitate to the WP instead. And if you have a 100% physical defense shield you can shut that down even without proper spacing unless they're using a Deep version for some reason.

>>149718650
>expecting a game's sequels to be better and for the developer to learn from mistakes is entitlement

>>149718640
>they just run away and heal and you can do literally nothing to stop them

>>149718802
No, but whining that they are pandering to other people instead of pandering to you is.

>>149718750
Just because straight swords are also overpowered doesn't mean katanas aren't. They have almost no recovery frames and while the running attack is predicable, it's easily spammable and impossible to punish without a curved or ss.

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>>149717571

>>149718481
Co-op has been in the games since Demon's Souls.
>BWAAAA Sunbros
It's pretty much the most lore important covenant since they help people to become kindling

>muh reds vs blues
If there wasn't hosts needing protection there would be no fucking need for the blue covenant. Noone in Dark Souls 1 sins other than by invading and invaders often hide behind killed bosses so Darkmoons get no pvp.

>>149717571
fpwp

>>149717781
Only cutie in DS3 is the Fire Keeper.

>>149719262
>If there wasn't hosts needing protection there would be no fucking need for the blue covenant.
Blueberries would get way more action if a) the covenant summoning wasn't completely broken and b) they weren't just the element turning it from a 3v1 to a 4v1.

>Noone in Dark Souls 1 sins other than by invading and invaders often hide behind killed bosses so Darkmoons get no pvp.
Easy fix, let Darkmoons invade even when an invader has killed the boss.

DLC WHEN

>>149719642
>Firekeeper and Karla

Fix'd that for you

>>149719650
>Easy fix, let Darkmoons invade even when an invader has killed the boss.
Nah, that's stupid. I would often kill a boss to invade in an area because otherwise, I would constantly get a fog wall which would end up being a failed invasion. All it succeeded in doing was waste my time.

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>>149719642
That's one hot ass shit opinion right there famalam

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>>149718481

G E T
O
O
D

S H I T T E R

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8 Loyce souls down, only 32 more to go...

>>149719262
Yellows should not be allowed to interact with Reds. They are supposed to be PvE cooperation, not no ganks.

The ones that should help the host against reds are blues. That's their only reason to exist: To hunt reds. Good job making them useless because a yellow is way better in every way possible.

>>149719642
Incorrect. Every girl in DaS3 is a cutie. Even the Evangelists! Look at that happy little smile.

>>149719891
Then From should fix their garbage netcode. It would be a constant cycle of invaders trying to invade hosts, regaining their humanity, then Darkmoons invading sinners and killing them.

>>149719907
i LOVE this epic meme!

LE GIANT DAD xDDD drop the bass canonn :--D
do I fit in yet?

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>>149719907
SL?

Do people actually say "git gud" while posting Giantdad unironically? I really hope not.

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>Darkmoon queue times

>>149719731
>Karla has been kept prisoner for god knows how long
>she's been wearing those same pants for presumably all that time presumably without panties too
>even the item description notes that they're stinky
>Champion of Ash could probably pass out from sniffing those pants at the crotch

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>>149720087
Thanks bro!

Be sure to like and subscribe for more EPIC Dark Souls Memes :^)

>>149720141
387

>>149720213
If you lost to a Giant Dad then you really do need to get good. The Zwei is terrible.

>>149720406
>387
noob.

>>149719960
That would make invasions even stupider and segment the pvp in an even more retarded fashion.

>>149719960
I think:
>Reds should only be lightly nerfed
>Blues should only be lightly nerfed
>Whites and golds should be more nerfed the more of them you summon (something like the host has to share his whole stack of estus between his summons)
>You can't summon whites/golds as a Way of Blue adherent

In an ideal world this would mean people can either choose between playing through the level with their nerfed phantoms, and having their help in both PvE and PvP against a strong invader, or they can play through a level on their own but if they get invaded then a strong blue will come to the rescue.

Sadly in reality people would probably always opt for having their whites/golds over blue sentinels.


I also think friendly fire shouldn't be turned on automatically for invaders of the same covenant. So reds can't hurt each other, purples can't hurt each other, oranges can't hurt each other, but they can hurt invaders from other covenants. A host should be able to use an item which turns on friendly fire for invaders, but also for him and his own phantoms.

>>149720702
Nah, the only thing that needs changes is that the dried finger should disable seeds. That's it.

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>>149720839
>the only thing
That won't fix the problem.

>>149720702
I wouldn't be nearly as salty about the whole invasion situation if invaders didn't lose souls and you could get at least the same soul reward as the other way around.

I made a sorc char earlier only to find out exactly how garbage a sorc start is, and respec'd to quality.

When should a sorc make the switch back to spells? 40 int 30 attunement?

>>149719956

You need 50 overall, not 40.

>Irithyll dogs

>>149720941
It fixes the only problem there is with the game. The rest of your complaints is just you being a casual and wanting the game to change instead of getting good yourself.

That's the problem with casuals, like yourself, you were raised on games that held your hand and constantly told you how great you were while doing everything for you. Now that you are faced with a real game, it's kicking your ass, and you don't know how to process that in the face of thinking you were some kind of gaming god after all those casual game butt-pats.

>>149721470
Is this bait?

>>149721451
You can easily lure out and fight one at a time. Pyromancy also makes them trivial.

>>149721578
Wolnir was like Deacons for me. Not so much cool, but definitely impressive. Despite the fight itself not being too great, I still love Wolnir for the presentation and atmosphere. Deacons just win out a little over him.

Fuck off, Lucy. Souls games aren't really all that special if you take away invasion, and DaS3 just makes invasion unfun 90% of the time.

>>149721720
No, and pretending it is won't make it any less true.

>>149719960
>Yellows should not be allowed to interact with Reds. They are supposed to be PvE cooperation, not no ganks.
This has to be the dumbest shit I've ever read. So do the summons just stand there while the host gets raped by a red?

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>>149720384
Thanks for helping me imagine smelling my waifu's musk anon

>>149721470
3 humans against one with the same if not better stats and equipment isn't just "git gud", you retard. There's challenging and then there's unfair.

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>>149721430
fuck

>>149721798
Yes, it is bait. Carry on.

>>149721830
oh, the poor host getting raped by the red with 30% less life, less estus, probably seeded and in a risk of getting ganked with a blue

let's protect the poor host

>>149721470
>projecting this much
You have no idea what games I play. You can't ignore the problems just by saying "getting good". The invasions in DS3 are not that fun. FCs are in a pretty good spot to mess around with; but the core of the souls series for me has always been invasions. DS3 just doesn't have good invasions it is almost always a gank fest.

>>149721939
This isn't even about the host anymore. But you'd be harming summoning horribly. Do you know how annoying it would feel to just watch your host die to a red?
I swear to christ you invaders are so entitled. The system isn't perfect, and it needs some changes, but stopping summons from attacking invaders is just dumb.

>>149721780
I'm enjoying invasions more recently. Invading the same area over and over, getting used to the area, learning what sort of equipment and strategies people are going to be using at that stage of the game, makes you way more likely to win invasions, even against ganks. It's also important to realise that people who need to play through the game with two phantoms and a blue are tremendous fucking pussies and sometimes a little mindless aggression is what you need.

Of course, I've got characters devoted entirely to certain themes and invading certain areas, so if you've got a more general character you want to invade more casually on, you can't really benefit from my autistic strategies.

The whole point of being in body/human form in Demon's and Dark 1 was that you risk being invaded for the reward of extra health, being able to summon, kindle, get neat screenshake effects on your weapons, etc.

In Dark 3, there is virtually no risk as an embered host. Summoning makes the PvE trivial without any tradeoff.

>>149722162
>human form
>extra health

>>149722276
>Demon's and Dark 1

So, how am I supposed to land the Dark Hand? It doesn't even have hyper armour to make up for that fucking windup

>>149722162
Being able to ember anywhere is a mistake. You should only be able to do it at bonfires. There's nothing stopping a host from going through the whole level unembered and then just summoning some fucks at the boss.

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>>149722081
hello newfriend go back to minecraft

>>149722162
In Demon's invaders had a bit more of a chance in that they could grass as much as the host and the phantoms. They also get the foe's ring meaning they could do more damage. I would quite like a similar ring to that I think.

>>149722010
>The invasions in DS3 are not that fun.
Stopped reading right there. Fun is subjective, casual. You not finding it fun because it doesn't hold your hand, doesn't mean we all think it is lacking in fun.

>>149722418

I think it'd be better if that effect were just baked into being a red invader. While also leaving red signs as is, of course.

>>149722415
Epic. I'm not the one demanding that they remove all challenge for invaders.

So are we all in agreement that ds3 js literally groundhog day tier, and that linking the fire only resets to the beginning of the game and that letting the fire end is the Canon ending?

>>149722374
I agree. Demon's offsets this by making eye stones both difficult to obtain, and have the caveat that you're also pushing your tendency closer to black.

>>149722418
DeS maybe gives the invaders a bit too much advantage.

>>149722548
>fun is subjective
>goes on to tell someone else about why they're wrong about fun

>>149722629
>DeS maybe gives the invaders a bit too much advantage.
Kinda. I think it's balanced if the person has summons, but it is true that an invader against a solo host has more advantages.

>>149722162
You do realise the only difference between summoning two people in 1 or 3 is that since 1's netcode was shit, it was much harder to, but getting three fuckbuddies at a bonfire was just as easy.

>>149722081
Invaders really are delusional if they think they were really meant to be eaual to the hosts.

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>mfw people are using Symbols of Avarice to farm loyce souls without realizing the difference between dropped items and souls

>>149722585
if my host dies to a red he sucks, it's his fault. If the red is an asshole then I will step in, if host wants to duel I'll let him. It's darksouls not casual souls.

>>149722956
>Invaders are disadvantaged to the host in all these ways
>that may be a bit much, let's make a few of these more fair
>FUCKING ENTITLED INVADERS YOU WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE EQUAL OR A THREAT I JUST WANT TO PVE BUT ALSO GET CARRIED BY MY BUDDIES SO I CAN'T JUST GO OFFLINE

>>149723057
It's definitely casual souls right now.

>>149722641
Holy shit, you're retarded.

>>149722897
Except in DaS there were no passworded phantoms (and both parties could twink), phantoms didn't have better healing than invaders, healing was actually punishable, etc.

>>149723153
I haven't played DaS3 yet, so if that's the current discussion then that sucks. Luckily I still have previous titles.

http://challonge.com/tryhardmetainvitational

>cestial
>rendal
>brexitsword
that's all das3 has to offer

>>149723501
>Bonus $100 if the Champion wins without using: Carthus Curved Sword, Estoc, Washing Pole, Garygoyle Flame Spear, Gotthard's Twin Swords, Dark Sword
Did anyone attempt this?

>>149723117
I never summoned or co-oped in DS3 and all of my online interaction in 3 was invasions. That said I wasn't a very good invader either but I think that crippling co-opers by not allowing sunbros to touch the host is too excessive and most of the critique from reds makes it sound like they expect the host play by their arbitrary rules on what's considered "fair".

I think that invaders should get better rewards for beating a host that has multiple phantoms like toss them a slab or an item allowing one extra reapect or something.

>>149723592
It's gonna happen soon. I'm pretty sure Baobao will try to go with just RHH but he won't be able to beat WP with it and just switch to his original combo.

>mfw lucerne is not mentioned

>>149723501
>tryhard meta
>rewards on the line for not using meta weapons

???

>>149723501
>>149723592
I'm stupid.

>>149723643
Not that guy, I think preventing sunbros from hurting reds is silly and there are far more issues that could be fixed with good solutions.

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what would happen if him and bed of chaos fucked ?

>>149723153
Oh please, DaS2 was the true Casual Souls.

>>149722757

In DeS it depended a lot on the character of the invader. If it was someone who was just invading to get their body back in the process of playing through, that person had no particular advantage over the host; any grass lost was lost forever (and thus maybe not worth risking), weapons wouldn't necessarily be better, and they could easily lack the Foe ring. But if it was someone who was a dedicated invader, that person was nigh unstoppable, because not only would they have terrifying damage output and every other tool they wanted, they would also probably have endless stacks of grass and no particular reason to conserve them.

It's pretty clear which one of these invaders From hadn't planned on people wanting to be.

>>149723712
he knows not using those weapons are basically a DQ, so he's basically baiting people into losing

>>149723690
black knight shield rhh is pretty fucking strong when used ultra passively even against wp given that wp has no way of countering shields unless someone is running a dark version

>>149723731
The Profaned Flame

>>149723783
Wouldn't that have been easy to fix by simply disallowing invasions in Body form?

>>149723252
>no password
Passwords are a good thing, they finally make it easier to play with friends if you want. The only issue is that From can't into downscaling.

>Twinking
Goes both ways, was wrong when either party did it given how unreal the advantages can get

>phantoms didn't have better healing than invaders

False, depends on how much either side had farmed, but assuming equal amounts, phantoms had the hosts estus and team miracles

>healing was actually punishable
Try to punish healing in a 3v1, you'll be lucky if you can get the backstab in without dying

People are only now realising how 3v1s are unfair because they hardly ran into them (and that's not because From trying to stop them from happening). But guess what, it's the way the player wanted to play, now you can either stop bitching and fight or BC out like we all do, or leave the game.

>>149723783
I think from knew that some invaders were going to optimise, otherwise things like the foe's ring wouldn't be in the game. I just think they didn't expect most people to dedicate themselves so hard to it.
And obviously, I don't think they thought things like the scraping spear and stormruler through too hard.

>>149723783
You forgot the
>Scraping spear monk headwrap invader

>>149723770
That was BloodBorne.

>>149723501
Who's the guy called Trusty Patches?

>tfw Winged spear wins tournament

>Demon's Souls
FUCK I'M BEING INVADED GOD HELP ME
>Dark Souls
Shit I got invaded
>Dark Souls 2
I got invaded! Finally!
>Dark Souls 3
Got invaded. Big deal, there's a bonfire close to me, my summons will protect me, I have more estus and HP and the invader and probably better upgraded weapons than him. If everything goes wrong, I'll seed my world and keep summoning whites forever no matter how mine times the red kills them. If he ever gets close to me I spam roll.

>>149723887

That's already the case as I recall.

>>149723861
Dark WP does 43 damage against BKSh. It's no use at all and you can fuck up and commit on a R1, getting out traded and since the stun on RHH is ridiculous, you'll get combo'd regardless of trade. Weapon of choice against shields is Card Captor, but since scott banned rouge/weapon buffs, not even that can deal with it correctly now. He's promoting even more passive play without knowing.

>>149724087
A pretty good player that mains daggers and longswords.

>>149723998
How so?

>>149723890
I'm not saying 3v1s in DaS were fair, it's just they were less unfair and FAR less common, yeah. Most invasions in DaS3 have you pitted against a 3v1 with all of the disadvantages that would be appropriate for a 1v1 with blue backup. Sure, you can BC out, but that's a big waste of time and cracked orbs when you're trying to get that first tongue.

>>149724151
does he stream?

>>149724171
>spam heal
>spam dodge
>wait for easy parry

>>149724115
Between Dark Souls 2 and 3 I'm just happy that infinite use invasion items are back. And hosts having the advantage technically means more of them stay Embered whenever possible.

>>149724115
Everything you said about ds3 applies to ds2 as well with the exception of never getting invaded in the first place.
Fuck Tanimura and his influence, why the hell Miyazaki brought him as co-director in ds3.

>>149724275
Don't think so. Never seen him before. He uses glaives also, mainly gundyr.

>>149724145
Oh, you're right. I guess the effects on tendency wouldn't matter if you've already cleared the area anyways, so you don't need to Nexus suicide.

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>>149724174
Assuming they don't seed, a 3v1 in DaS3 is actually pretty fun as the invader, and it drives you to play as invasions were meant to be played, rather than just a glorified duel against non-PvP-ready players.

>>149724281
You can parry heals in BB

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>>149724281
>spam heal
>get parried

>try to dodge spam
>each dodge has a good amount of recovery frames making it easy as fuck to catch you

>try to parry fish
>get fucked by jump attacks and delayed r2s

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every fucking time

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Can anyone sum up the complaints for pvp in DaS3. Not whether you agree with them, just the general concerns.

I've played over a thousand hours in souls games spanning from DeS, just too poor to afford Das3 still. I will eventually get it but I want to conceptualize how it is vs previous games, of course I'll draw my own conclusions after playing it.

>>149724617
>spam guns
>???

What kind of PvE and PvP you're wanting/expecting from the DLC?
I mean, they aren't probably going to do major balance changes to the existing covenants but maybe shake things up by adding a new one or something.

>>149718640
This, without fail, is why I die 80% of the time I'm playing this game

>>149724693
I don't really have any issues with dueling, it's just that 3v1s are far too stacked against the invader and it's almost all you ever see while invading, for some reason.

Well, I know the reason, it's because they made squads have a higher priority to be invaded. You never get fucking invaded as a solo host unless you use a finger. Why did they do this? Who knows.

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>>149724673

>>149724617
>try to parry fish
>get fucked by jump attacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_kGrnxuVgs

>>149725030
I fought that guy before several times. He couldn't outkatana my WP.

>>149721430
>You need 50 overall, not 40.
https://vine.co/v/hVrXYYQIKwP

>>149724989
>it's just that 3v1s are far too stacked against the invader
Only when a seed is involved. Otherwise, you can use enemies and the environment to your advantage and things even out. Stop just rushing the host and his phantoms.

>>149725052
Bullets are limited, just block them or dodge them until they run out, then steam roll them. You can also just use attacks that can't be parried.

>>149724174
>waste of cracked orbs
This isn't 1 or 2, you can get the red eye orb in under an hour if you rush for it, two tops if you decide to take your time. You can even kill Leonhard and rush for it even faster if you don't care about his quest.
The only thing making 3v1s less unfair is the lack of seed in 1, which is harmful for 2 and 3, but is an invaluable tool for solo hosts and should simply be tweaked. 1v1 in a seeded world or 3v1 in a non seeded one are good fights. I only BC if there's a seed and phantoms together, or if they cleared the whole level.

3v1s are only more common now because better netcode, you'll notice that if you try to summon or get invaded most signs vanish/give the unable to summon phantom message.

>>149724693
For invasions I often see:
Invaders being outnumbered too often (I blame this on the community, not the game, prioritising these worlds has been debunked, it's simply that many solo hosts put themselves in an uninvadable state)
>lowered estus and HP for invaders
>seed being too common

General:
>estus is too fast and you can walk during it (by fast I mean you can drink and dodge a backstab while drinking)
>rolls are too strong
>smaller fast weapons being better than the rest, even more so than in other games, the number of great PvP weapons is small
>low number of builds, caused by various factors, such as low softcaps, making high level builds just go quality because no other options, very demanding caster builds, that need 3 ring slots and far more stat investment than melee ones, useless Vit dump stat since armor isn't strong enough
>some covenants have very bad chances of getting summoned (don't worry, the only good reward from them is a 2 Att slot ring)
>lack of a proper arena, which mad all the duel fags hog a very, very good invasion area, making you often find fight clubs when you want to invade there

I think there might be more, maybe too specific, but that's from the top of my head.

>>149724673
To be fair, with that HP, you should already know how bad his phantom range was and rolled accordindly.

>>149725816
>prioritising these worlds has been debunked
Bull fucking shit.

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the dark lord has risen

bonzi buddy 2.0

SL1

2 dark hands

ready to deep your shit up

>>149726076
>level 1
idiot

>>149725963
I had already given up by that point. 3 hits of a katana is 700 damage, 2 hits of my UGS is 700 damage also. But landing my 2 hits is so much hard, and I thought the first hit guaranteed the second, but that seems to not work with all UGS.

Of course eventually I'll managed to get gud with the UGS, it's a slow process, like I can win against everything with GAs and CGSs. But today I got my ass handed to me.

>want to make a cute witchfu character
>know how to get Firekeeper coat and all the other stuff I need quickly
>remember that to get the witch hat I need to wait until the game is half over

Fuck

>>149725816
>Lack of a good arena
Please, please, please From, don't re-introduce arenafaggotry! It was like one of the good things in DS3 that invasions were back to form instead of pandering to the Street Fighter audience.

>>149726286
What's wrong with adding an area? We already have full orbs in DaS3 so an arena would not be as shit as it was in DaS2

>>149726269
Just use an Undead villager hat or arrange a trade.

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>no steel set

why live

>>149726454
>just use the undead villager hat

That's actually pretty smart anon, thanks

>>149726465
>no fluted set
REEEEEEEEEE

>>149725983
Some guys ran a few tests, I can search for you if you want. Basically, here's what happens. Every character starts tagged for being invaded, which will happen if they ember.

As soon as they get their first invasion, win or lose, they lose this tag and cannot be invaded anymore, even embered. There are only two ways of getting the tag back: finger, which leaves it active as long as the host has fingered himself, or using online functions, be they invading or summoning phantoms.
The result this gives us is that there are a bunch of hosts out there who are playing the game completly solo but online, and they only interact through messages or ghosts. It's not that From made it worse, it's that the community proved they are a bunch of faggots.

>>149726286
Oh, trust me, I hate this as much as you do, but did you look at post pontiff? It's an amazing invasion area, the deacons and SKs being among the best mobs to help and invader in the game, but if you ever used the orb there you know half the time the host just runs to his faggy arena and sits on his ass there or you find a fight club, all this because there's nowhere better to send this cancer to. If there was an arena, there'd be no signs everywhere at pontiff and your invasions there would be, you know, actual invasions.

>>149726415
The arena should be thematically fitting to the game world, then. And even if it was, designing the pvp arena is effort that's taking away from the development of single player content.

>>149726678
>There are only two ways of getting the tag back: finger, which leaves it active as long as the host has fingered himself, or using online functions, be they invading or summoning phantoms.
>It's not that From made it worse
Erm, they did, then. DaS had an invasion timer and the finger simply bypassed it.

>>149726269
Want me to drop it?

Heya guys

What the fuck is Deep and what the fuck is the Age of Deep Waters? Im assuming Deep is the Abyss and the Age of Deep Waters is a reference to Bloodborne? Could I be wrong or no?

>>149726253
how so

i transferred the two dark hands from other characters, no weapons upgraded on this char, the dark hands count as +0.

the hands get 276 AR at SL1, deprived-- they literally 3-shot anyone.

you can invade upward all the way to SL21, and you'll only run into people w/ +2 weapons max. it's incredibly fun.

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>>149726678
>There are only two ways of getting the tag back: finger, which leaves it active as long as the host has fingered himself, or using online functions, be they invading or summoning phantoms.

Fuck. I'm always wondering why I don't get invaded more and this is why.

Why didn't they just leave in the timer?

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>>149726454
I just used the worker hat.

>>149726773
Not if they have different people working on it.

>>149726798
Nah, it's alright, I'll just use a villager hat for the mean time

>>149726670
The Burial Knight stuff is pretty close to a Fluted Set.

Any news on the first DaS3 DLC yet? Any chances they'll show a trailer at TGS in 3 weeks?

>>149726807
I think the Deep is corrupted Ash Lake

>>149726992
Not really

>>149726791
I mean that, if a player doesn't want to play with others, but wants to play online, they aren't forced to interact with people, which is a good thing. The only bad thing is that we took too long to find out as >>149726862 shows, some people are cluelessly playing without knowing. I suspect they'll take this out when the game gets in DaS's player range or something, but tons of people played DaS3 solo and without further interaction.

>>149726807
The deep is ur mom's vajayjay

>>149726992
That's what I mean, but you can't get it without invalidating your data since it's cut content, right?

>>149727120
>if a player doesn't want to play with others, but wants to play online
???

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>>149726884
>that face

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>>149726678
So this is actually like BB's system only without any ability for invader to stack any advantages, huh.

>>149723501
god i want to see baobao vs oro again

that das2 video of them is too good

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>>149727174
haters gonna hate

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>>149726773
The arena was placed in an area of the world that was set up as a place for prisoners to fight to the death, hence the undead bosses in that region, granted the overall world design of DaS2 is my least favorite element of the game.

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>using great weapons
>target is left with a sliver of health

I swear to god this shit is hardcoded

>>149727206
BB actually has the advantage of at least offering 2 areas where the bell maidens are there by default so you can actually invade solo people

>>149727394

This is why off-handing a crossbow with a great weapon is practically required.

Is there a CE script that would allow me to place summon signs ANYWHERE? I want to do bitch-ass shenanigans.

>>149727620
no fuck off

>>149727153
You might want to simply see messages or ghosts, who knows. I invaded as soon as I got the orb so it didn't affect me.

>>149727206
Kind of, it's slightly more freeing since you can be solo invaded as soon as you use the orb and I think you can still be area invaded by covenants, giving two areas that'd be somewhat similar to the bell maiden ones, but I'm not sure about the last part.

>>149726807
>I'm assuming Deep is the Abyss
Might be. Deep weapons do Dark damage. What we do know is that Aldritch discovered it andcrealized that that shit was fucking wack. Maybe the Deep has a connection to the black monolith that's in the Deacons boss room and that's how we access the Deep DLC.

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>>149727474
I didn't want to do that but honestly I feel like it's not even an option.

For Cornyx's set to spawn does the summon for Old Demon need to survive the fight?

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>>149727423
Not like invading solo players mattered much there. No seed + chalice gems + inability to quickly summon backup allowed to rape entire coop teams very fast.

Why the fuck it was impossible to at least implement resummon lock in DS3 is beyond me.

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>>149727394
>>149727474
This, I forced myself to pick up a bow for UGS in DaS2 for roughly the same reason, players change their playstyle and patterns when low on health making a surprise bow attack a great finisher.

Even though I hate bows and think they're pussy shit, magic all the way.

>>149727743
That is just Aldrich's coffin.

>>149727776
Yes. Get Tsorig if it's NG only since he helps far more than her.

>>149727725
>You might want to simply see messages or ghosts, who knows.
You don't have to be embered for that.

>>149727801
It's balanced in BB because of how agressive oriented the game is.

The main vantage of hosts in Dark Souls is that if they decide to turtle your chances of winning are extremely slim.

>>149727761
>they didn't jump down for a plunging attack

What in the fuck?

>>149727867
If she dies can I bone out/die to resummon her for another try?

>>149727801
What if they changed summons so to summon you and to go through the prayer gesture. As in, summoning did the gesture, and only went through when you completed it.

Summon locks, on the other hand, would just be BS.

>>149728000
I thought they were going to spam R1 with ss as soon as I reached up.

>>149728041
Yee

>>149722139
>PS4

>>149727920
You might want the health advantage. For some reason From decided to balanced the game around hosts being embered for most fights, as opposed to DeS or DaS2 where even with the health loss going through areas was perfectly fine.
Given how many embers they vomit at you, I was embered the whole game.

>>149728120
That's actually a good alternative, I suppose locking the player as they reach for the sign would be very good, since if they're using summons in a non-ganking way/summoning opponents they'll be in a safe position anyway.

I don't know if it was posted before, but there is a new video by the Pruld.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzJDimvPW1Y

>>149728485
fuck off shill

>>149728485
At some point he lost his italian mind

>>149728120
I can't believe you actually posted something sensible.

This would be specially cool if being R1'd while in "summon pray" position triggered a special riposte animation, like the coffin one.

>>149728417
>that trek from Cleansing Chapel to your first bonfire shortcut
That extra embered health really came in handy.

>>149728592
It's based on a niggers dancing video, it kinda loses the charm after you know that.

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>>149728598
>special animation
>at the end of it, something similar to "no way" plays (cancelable)

What if you could be hit while knocked down by other players? Would this make great weapons effective?

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>>149717921
>Be a little Way of White choir boy
>Petite, pale and effeminate, with long soft hair and big, innocent eyes
>One day pretty ladies from the Cathedral of the Deep come to your church
>Explain that they need more good, devout boys and girls to help contain the horrors of the Deep in far off Lothric
>You're scared, but eager to help the cause and excited at the prospect of meeting Saint Aldrich, Lady of the Deep, and agree to go
>You and other little choir boys, nuns and monks in training and pageboys and girls are taken by nice ladies to carriages
>The journey's long, but you're sure you can endure it
>But the nice ladies don't seem so nice a little while into the trip
>Start saying mean things to you and the other children
>Start hitting you too
>Telling you you're dirty and need to be cleaned
>One night you're crying yourself to sleep in the cold, rickety, cage like cariage
>One of the ladies climbs in
>Lies down behind you and wraps her arms around you, pulling you tight against her thicc body
>You start to calm down at the surprising show of tenderness
>She's warm and soft
>Then she starts touching you
>You barely know about perverted things at your age - only enough to know that your vows of chastity mean this isn't allowed
>Start crying again and trying to get her to stop
>She beats you until your Tears of Denial cease
>Resumes touching
>Orgasm for the first time in your life, scared and confused as your little feminine penis spurts into her hand
>Fall asleep from exhaustion, still clutched to the much larger, stronger lady
>
>
>Eventually make it to the Cathedral of the Deep
>Haven't been molested since that one terrifying night
>You and the other dirty, ruffled children are shepherded into the gigantic building
>None of you know what to expect - don't know if the deacons will be kinder than the evangelists who brought you here, or if they're even worse
>Evangelists and deacons lead you to baths
>Strip you

>>149729025
Not really, seeing as people compulsively mash B to get up earlier anyways.

>>149728747
That is the only inter-bonfire run in Ds3 that is even close to the gauntlets in DeS and Ds1

>>149729025
Make it so you can't immediately roll out of being knocked down

One of the biggest reasons rolls are op this time round

>>149720141

SL 99 BANDIT

48 VIT

66 END

12 ATT

16 STR

10 DEX

WHAT ARE YOU, CASUL?

GIANTS
GIANTS
GIANTS

BECOME UNSTOPPABLE

Does anyone have that colored Felicia the Brave fanart where she's just chilling in the Amana next to someone wear Desert Sorceress?

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>>149729092
>You're all so used to the ladies' inappropriate touching and abuse now that you don't even care about being naked in front of each other
>Washed down for the first time in a while
>Told you are being prepared to meet Lady Aldrich
>You're hopeful
>Surely the revered Lady Aldrich will be kind to you
>You and the other children are lead through the cathedral - still naked
>Fear starts spreading through you all again
>No one wants to meet Aldrich naked
>Worried that she'll do lewd things to you too
>Brought to a great chamber
>Evangelists and deacons tell you that you are blessed to meet Aldrich
>Lady Aldrich is there
>A gigantic, pulsating, vaguely feminine mass of black sludge
>Other children start screaming and crying
>They're being grabbed by deacons and evangelists
>Being thrown into the bubbling, twitching slime
>Howling in fear as the sludge pokes at their private places and flows over and into them
>Watch your friends being fed to the sludge, tears streaming down your face, paralysed in fear
>Snap out of it
>Turn
>Run
>Evangelists and deacons grabbing at you
>Flee down a side passage
>Vanish into a series of cloisters and corridors

>>149729109
Dungeon as well.

>>149729150
That has nothing to do with why rolls are OP

>>149720213

It's entirely ironic. Giant Dad is a joke build.

>>149729287
moar

>>149729092
>She beats you until your Tears of Denial cease
creasing

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>>149729287
>Emerge into a quiet part of the cathedral
>A little dusty here
>Soft red carpets and hangings everywhere
>Creep about, still naked and terrified
>Head through a large door
>Room full of what look like gently swinging cribs
>Big bed at the end
>Someone lying on it
>A big lady
>About to run again, worried that you've been found
>But you feel very calm
>Lady doesn't look like an evangelist actually
>Something about her is very soothing
>Stumble towards her, doing your best to cover your flat little chest and tiny peepee with your hands
>She watches you from behind a curtain of black hair
>Reaches out her hands to you when you get closer
>Reach out to her
>She picks you up
>Lifts you onto the bed
>Pulls you onto her lap
>She's soft
>She smells nice
>Feel safe for the first time in a while
>Remember why that is
>Start crying again
>Shaking and trembling, remembering the abuse, remembering seeing your friends swallowed into the horrifying sludge
>She presses your head to her chest
>Doesn't say anything but makes mollifying, cooing noises
>Wraps her arms around yourselves
>You're completely surrounded by her warm embrace - she's huge, even bigger than the mean ladies
>Like one of the gods you've spent your life learning about
>Starts rocking you
>Lets you cry yourself quiet
>Resting your head on her chest, the top of her loose blouse is pulled down
>Your face is resting on her big, soft boobies
>She puts a hand on your head, manoeuvres it about
>Pushes your lips against one of her big, dark, puffy nipples
>Desperate for comfort you part your lips, almost instinctively
>Start sucking
>Her other hand slips down between your slender little legs
>Starts touching you
>But its gentler and softer than when the mean lady did it
>Feels nice
>You fall asleep in her embrace, her nipple in your mouth, one hand stroking your hair and another stroking your penis

well that was a fucking autistic endeavour im sure i'll regret shortly

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>>149729451
fag

egg

>>149729331
nah not really the dungeon has a bunch of shortcuts, that first run in cathedral is just to the first shortcut. And dungeon is just easier cause there's not a millon things that will chase you until you die

>>149729504
fuck off eingyi

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>>149729092
>>149729287
>>149729451

>>149729504
food

>>149729634
agree

>>149729578
not me

>>149721861

Wtf dude

>guy writing literal child porn with vore inside of it
>but nobody writing gay fanfiction about twins
oh come on he literally rides his big brothers back around and it says "but Lorian wished it this way" on some item description involving him

>>149723867

LORE FUCKING CONFIRMED.

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>realize the sludge pits in the cathedral are actually colossal amounts of giant shit pooled up
>realize that the slimes have probably been crawling in and out of its anus for years

>>149726076

PRAISE THE UNHOLY ONE

\ O /
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>UGS are 20% faster
>Greataxes get unique a moveset each, no more overhead attacks all around
>Greathammers have HA during the whole animation
>CurvedGreatSs and GreatSs can't be parried when two handed
>UGS, GA and GH can't be parried.
>WAs can't be parried.
>all great weapons running attacks have lingering hitboxes
>SSs consume 30% more stamina
>all katana running attacks are horizontal slashes instead of pokes
>all weapon buffs are % instead of flat
>STR gives you a bit of Equip Load and HP (not much)
>Att gives way more slots and FP
>make all softcaps be 60
>make so 60/14 and 16/60 are better than 40/40 (str/dex)
>all weapons can be infused and buffed (and get balanced around this), even shields, catalysts and the torch. No fucking exceptions

About WAs:
>Blind Spot faster, stronger and has iframes
>Quickstep way faster, but has way less iframes
>Shield Splitter twice as fast, trigger riposte animation on shields
>Stomp is twice as fast
>War Cry lasts twice as much, whole improved moveset is cancelable
>GH's perseverance knows down people who are close

Here. I just fixed PvP

>>149730353
>>149726076
samefag

>>149726807
The Deep is an excuse for me to write literal child porn with vore inside of it

Na I think it's to Death as the Abyss is to Dark or Chaos is to Life. Death is a very prevalent in the world of Dark Souls so it could be 'the chains that bind this world' or 'the world's bedrock.' The Deep was once peaceful but became full of monstrosities - Death is seen as something very calm and peaceful by some people, but in the world of Dark Souls it's been fucked up by stuff like the Undead Curse and it's been corrupted into something terrifying, full of strange monstrosities. The creatures inhabiting it are shit like insects that eat flesh and maggots, stuff you'd expect to find in a rotting corpse, and the gigantic wolf spider things are covered in skulls. Plus, the wolf spiders can inflict you with curse, as can the magic of the Deacons in their boss fight - and curse is a status with a skull for an icon which inflicts sudden Death. Plus, the Deep is associated with water, the anathema of fire - whch is closely tied to Life in the series.

Whatever corrupted Death into Deep is probably linked to Dark too, seing as darkness is consistently refered to when talking about the Deep, Deep infusion and Deep spells do dark damage, and Aldrich counts as an abyssal creature.


>>149729885
Sorry my friend but you will have to find someone else to greentext out low quality porn of those femboys being gay together
I'm into femboys big time, but only when they're cute and straight and being abused by women.
My head canon is that the Dancer was heading into Lothric castle so she could rape some of that crippled and vulnerable femboy dick

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Was the broken archstone ever explained?

>>149730768
yes its broken

>>149730768
Here be giants.

>>149730026
>125
lol what are you gonna do with that, fight cheaters in the forest all day? sounds like a lot of not fun

>>149730768
It leads to DaS1.

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>>149730768

>>149730768

Snow area, northern lands of giants.

Ran out of time.

>>149730960
No, my gank hunter in the forest was level 70.

>>149730647
Please write some Dancer beating Lorian then raping his brother

>>149730430
You can make all the changes in the world and it'll still be a pile of shit with this 360 degree phantom range death sphere online

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>>149729613
Could it be...?

>>149730768
>mfw DeS is the second most complete and polished game after BB and they STILL ran out of time and have cut content

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>Want to use the Pike (DS1)
>It weighs double most other spears, including the Demon Meme Spear, and only has 10 more AR at 50/50 than the Winged Spear

>>149731284
I honestly thought Eygon was a dragon the first time I saw him

>>149731461
Do you have any idea how overpowered a spear as long as the pike is?

>>149731576
Yes, and it's still pretty damn good as is.

I just wish it wasn't as heavy as the fucking Dragonslayer Spear.

>>149729092
>>149729287
>>149729451
I didn't ask for this boner

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First time playing Dark Souls and I'm on Dark Souls 1. It says my armor is degrading and my weapon is at risk, and I'm at the bonfire before you fight the first boss. (Killed boss already, but went back for loots)

Should I be worried about fixing my armor and weapons, and if so, how do I do it?

>>149718724
Well dont take that faggits word for it. Its a great game.

>>149731447
But why did they even bother leaving the arch stone there?

My first playthrough of DeS, I was expecting it to be a secret or bonus level and was I pretty dissapointed after I looked it up online and couldn't find it

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>>149731284
>>149729613
To this day I still don't understand what those stones are supposed to be

>>149731810
Do you mean the tutorial boss? I hope not. If you mean the bonfire before Taurus Demon, then you find the merchant nearby and he sells a repair kit.

>>149731810
Repair at blacksmiths until you buy repair box
Broken and at risk weapons do poopy damage

>>149731986

They're literally just wood carvings Gough carved up that he put words of his in.

>>149731986
Gough carved them from archtree wood. There's a mountain of them next to where he sits atop the tower.

>>149731187
Maybe tomorrow, it's real late now.
Also how do the Dancer, Lorian and Lothric all compare size wise? I like a bit of size difference but don't know if I want to be doing full on giantess here.

>>149731779
Don't worry my friend, I'm giving them away free! On the house! :^)

>>149731986
The markings on all of them look kind of like faces when you look at them right. Not really see how you're supposed to look at the thank you carving though.

>>149732082
>>149731986
you can see him carving them in the das1 dlc

>>149731810
You stayed in the undead asylum long enough for your shit to get broken?

>>149731810
Yes, always pay attention to durability, esp. with weapons. Weapon damage is severely lowered when the weapon is at risk.

Some merchants sell repair powder to fix it, or certain weaponsmiths will fix them too. For souls, of course.

>>149732009
Taurus Demon. And what if said merchant is dead?

>>149732082
>>149732123
I meant the carvings themselves. What are they? Letters? The description say faces, but I can't see a face in them.

>>149731875
I'm pretty disappointed that you have to ask such stupid questions

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>>149731986
Emoting faces carved into wood, the hollowed interior makes a specific sound when broken.

>>149732186
You guide reading shitter.

>>149732194
You might actually have autism.

what weapon has the most hyperarmor?

it's the only way to win

>>149732082
if archwood is so magical and has the ability to have powers just by being shaped into something, why has nobody made any weapons, armor, or golems out of it? Only 3 things made of archwood exist.

>>149732214
Shit, I can't see them. It looks like nothing to me

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>>149732214
another such example

>>149732291
What no

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>>149732186
>what if said merchant is dead

>>149731447
Has any cut content been found for BB? I know because it's a PS4 game it's much harder to delve into the files and find shit, but I haven't heard about any interesting cut content or forgotten files like, say, Artorias' cut dialogue or Oscar's quest line.

Also man, DeS is pretty polished and finished, but the amount of stuff that potentially could have been in that they were forced to leave out is a shame.
>A whole other world
>As many levels for every world as Boletarian palace has

>>149732283
>You guide reading shitter.

What? I just went exploring and killed him cuz I could. But, now I apparently need him to repair my armor.

Am I fucked?

>>149732291
the Champions Epee Rapier

>>149732291
You want a weapon like a straight sword if you want to be OP. No stamina consumption, hits greatswords before hyper armour activates, and does decent damage

>>149732607
So you're just retarded. There's a blacksmith accessible straight from Firelink Shrine if you look hard enough. Hint: 2spooky.

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>>149732416

>>149732512
...should I just make a new character?

if i host FC in 15 minutes will boyfriends come?

>>149732717
Now I see this one.

Thanks god Gough was a great archer, because he is terrible at carving.

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>>149732516
If we had a way to get into the ps4's infrastructure we'd find out. It's taken years just to start on the ps3 recently.

>>149724673
NOTHING

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>engaged in jolly co-op
>singing loudly like an idiot directly into the mic
>realize there is no push to talk
>mfw

>>149732825
he's blind you asshole

>>149732825
He's fucking blind.

>>149732858
haha

>>149732898
>>149732867
He actually isn't :^)

>>149732825
Holy shit dude, not cool. He's fucking blind.

>>149732814

No, but girlfriends might.

>>149732814
Only if you give me 5 scale titanites

>>149732898
he actually wasn't

>>149732825
Give him a break man, he's blind

What weapon should I use for a Dark Spellsword? Looking at the wiki nothing seems to get super scaling when Dark infused.

>>149732814
will you give me a kissu

>>149732731
No.
You can still get the repair box from the blacksmith -unless you were idiotic enough to kill him as well.

I honestly wish people like you would lurk for a while before posting.

>>149732962
this is a no gf zone

>>149732964
ok i will

>>149732937
>>149732971
Okay, his helmet makes him blind. Try to carve something blindfolded.

>>149733081
I have multiple times, I've even made a sculpture of the smelter demon from ds2(not blindfolded though)

>>149733068
only if you beat me in bf combat

>>149733191
Post it, faggot

>>149733251
no

>sit my ass at woods with finger + WoB
>wait for blues to arrive
>judged their looks + weapons
>if I like them, help with enemies
>if not, BC them out
>if they take too long, bait invaders into the swamp with obscuring then, return to woods without being found

>>149733076
I'm just asking for advice, since this is my first time playing. Calm your tits about your secret internet club.

>>149733320
I figured you were a liar

>>149733376
Why would you ever meet and kill an NPC for no reason?

>>149733390
no

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>>149732698
I assume this is where it gets spooky?

>>149732814
which boyfriend

>>149733472
because a tale of 2 adventurers

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>>149732903
high probability he's in here too, maybe he'll listen to my mixtape

>>149733376
Why don't you grow a fucking brain and not kill NPC's, and then beg for help

>>149733560

>>>>/v/

>>149733472
Because this is my first time playing Dark Souls, I didn't realize they didn't spawn back.

>>149733560
>he kills Ingward and rams his head against 4 kings
This is how darkwraiths happen.

>>149733608
all bfs are welcome

>>149733615
at least you're having fun with the game. I can't anymore. The only ounce of fun I get is when I abuse overpowered weapons to kill shitters at pontiffs arena and point down at their corpses because I like to imagine they're fuming with rage.

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>>149733376
>go to store
>look around
>smash everything in the store
>beat up the clerk
>get banned from the store
>yell at people entering the store asking how to buy items

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>>149733472
>>149733808
>First time playing Dark Souls
>Discover stairs down to Undead Merchant
>Emerge onto balcony
>See a hollow!
>Oh fuck I'll get him before he gets me!
>Attack
>oh wait no fuck fuck its an npc
>Unable to peruse his wares until I find Oswald later

>>149733645
I was asking about Armor degrading, and then the conversation turned to the merchant, who I killed. I wasn't begging for help because I killed someone.

Why are you getting so autistic over a question?

>>149733864
Because you're a fucking retard, that's why

What is the fastest crossbow?

>>149733858
>attacking everything that you see

if it's not targetable, doesn't run up to you or raise a shield when you approach, why would you attack it.

>>149733472
>weapon ahead therefore try attacking

>>149733472
He drops the uchi

which means he's a dirty guide reader

>>149733864
>I wasn't begging for help

Good.
Stop posting then.

Why is there no great xbow like marvelous chester has in his concept art?

Fucking K Team

>>149734325
it's the snoipa crossbow in ds1

>>149734019
there's no fastest

>>149734197
>>149733959
Why does me posting trigger you so much?

Also, thanks to the anon who helped, my stuff is repaired now.

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>tfw the first Black Knight in undead burg drops the BKS and makes your run infinitely easier.

FC where?

>>149734059
Because I was new to the game, almost literally everything so far had attacked me, and this thing looked exactly like the other things that had been attacking me.

This was literally years ago though, anon. I've learnt my lesson since then. In fact, I don't think I've ever attacked anything before it attacked me in any Dark Souls game since then, just in case it was friendly.

>>149734553
In my heart

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>>149734553
>wanting one