/fog/ Fallout General

>>149715312
drop guns and store them in the workshop if you need more building allowance.

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Post asses that need dog cock.

>>149715678
This.... This is what I wanted to type/say.

So that one kid with the dad is like a crossdresser, right?
I want to know who's dad I just punched to death.

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>>149715678
Does the stuff you carry on your person actually take away from your building capacity?

>>149716287
No.

>>149716287
No.

Items on the floor do, and since you can drop shit and store it indefinitely, it adds more allowance for shit to be built.

This is settlement glitches 101 anon.

>>149716465
I never actually bothered building anything big before so I never knew.

The more you know.

>>149716550
The more heavy the weapon is, the more you get back. Storing/scrapping a sledgehammer gives back more than doing the same to a combat knife.

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>place a mine on a gunner lift with the intention of sending it up as a trap
>mine clips through and elevator keeps rising

Is anyone actually building in the vault? It's so much bigger than Spectacle Island.

>>149716793
i did

>>149716793
I only build in the big main room. Only thing I build i the caves was a generator for the big water pump.

>>149716750
It worked in Duke Nukem

>>149716793
I am. Currently stuck in the autism hell that is 'optimizing' space used.

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>Let's build a vault power conduit to get power to the entrance area of the vault!
>won't attach to any wall there

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>building vault thinking it looks pre cool
>go search up what others made
>full blown vaults with dozens of different kinds of rooms, junk items everywhere, furniture and vault dwellers everywhere

I'm not creative enough for this and it feels like I'm cheating by taking notes from other builders.

>>149717149
you dont need to build one anywhere in the vault entrace to get power these, so long as you build one in the first possibly build space you will get power

>>149717149
Which part are you talking about? The Vault vault or the buildable vault door?

>>149716793
Is it as FPS breaking as the Institute?

>>149717356
Right behind the big main vault door in the entrance area.

>>149717505
As long as vault pieces are connected, you don't have to use any wires or conduits, they transfer power though themselves. To actually get power, you put a vault conduit on a vault wall and go from there.

>>149717334
Just tell yourself that they cheated with mods or console commands while your vault is build legit.

Even though they probably didn't cheat

>>149717646
How many blocks do the conduits reach for?

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>>149717656
I just want to start over and rebuild a Vault from FO 1 or 2 :(

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>>149717714
About 3 blocks.

>>149717334

Mimicry is the sincerest form of flattery, anon.

I too am an uncreative. I look at other people's settlements for inspirations after I exhaust my ideas.

If it helps, try to think of a purpose for your vault. Why is it there? What kind of people live in there? What faction does your protag belong to, and how would the vault be useful to them? Why would people live in a vault? What kind of people does your protag allow into the vault?Those sort of questions.

Also, designing one really detailed room and branching out from there can sometimes help.

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Fallout Resurrection is pretty fly homie. Some of the Enclave fags here would jizz over this faction.

Build a vault.. there's no hydroponics tables or equipment

..guess there's always mods

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>>149717683

>>149718039
I thought there were planters

>>149717996
Sometimes just building aimlessly can help when inspiration strikes too.

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IT'S A SIGN!

>>149717992
gaaaaaaaaaaaaay

you can combine room and atrium squares, its just tricky

I have a diner/rec room area

>>149717992
easier to build power lines on the roof

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They should have just made the power of your super generator flow through all your vault tec pieces.

>build big room with lots of lights
>lights in the middle of it have no power

>>149718642
It does.

I should buy this piece of shit DLC, because many mods are going to use shite from it.

>>149718642
I thought that was the point, I swear they advertised it like that in the promo video
vault walls not having internal wiring conduits is silly

maybe it's just bugged and they can't be bothered to fix it

>>149716658
Oh thats neat. Time to mass produce heavy weapons for this sole purpose.

>>149718738
might wanna hold off for now. I can't even get into the Vault when using mods.

>>149718729
Only on the walls though and even that just allows you to build a conduit everywhere you want. If you build your light signs in the hallway, they won't have any power unless your conduit is near them.

>>149718738
>buying the dlc seperate

>>149719142
No man.... I am a Sea Raider.......... Harrrr....

Can your vault get attacked? If it can, it will probably be the weirdest settlement to defend.

>>149719401
yes, i had mine attacked by Gunners.

They mostly come in from the main entrance though

Maxwell's World never

Scrapping my piece of shit vault and remaking Vault 13. Wish me luck bros

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I'm out of Vegas, going to to meet based Caesar in my first Legion playthrough.

So far I've been RP pretty good, outright dismissing House's attempts to make me his puppet, and murdering Benny in cold blood after he offended me by implying a VIP suite makes up for him shooting me in the head.

Also haven't done drugs, alcohol, or fucked whores.

>>149719606
>narrow hallway with 3 rooms on each side of it, an elevator at the back and on the far right an armory

what's everyone favorite legendary armor effects to use?

>>149719401
Mine also got attacked by gunners. Not all of them came from the front door i think.

>>149719595
Honestly I still think I can get it out before Nuka World. Though it'll be pretty close.

>>149719715
VATS Enhanced stacking.

>>149719840
So you realize that MW will never stop being compared to Nuka World right

>>149719840
I'm gonna laugh if you get it out like 3 days before, then Nuka Worlds comes out, and some clickbait game "journalism" site tries to make the claim that BEthesda stole your mod.

>>149719707
>IT'S GOTTA BE THE BIGGEST VAULT YOU CAN POSSIBLY MAKE JUST MAKE EVERYTHING MAKE IT HUGE AND BIG AND GIGANTIC OR ELSE IT'S NOT A VAULT

What's your problem? It's just a neat thing I want to make. The DLC itself is fucking useless so why not build what you want?

>>149719982
At this point Maxwell's World looks better, if smaller.

Got a bug, game won't fill bottles in survival. I hit R to fill bottle, sound bite plays, but no purified waters are added to my inventory. Uninstalled all mods and problem persists. Any ideas?

>>149718016
It is pretty good indeed.
Surprising how some Czech fans manage to make a better Fallout than Bethesda.

>>149719982
Nuka World will never let you fight ghoul clowns or fight a merry-go-round, so I'm not too worried.

>>149720081
>The DLC itself is fucking useless
Not him, but I would disgaree.

UI would disagree about any of the workshop DLC being useless.

Though I do believe they should have sold it it as one larger DLC, instead of three smaller ones

>>149717683

That's really the best you've got, huh?

>>149720231
Can you name three actual useful things to come out of this that you can apply to the base Fallout game?

>>149720230
How big will the mod itself be in terms of sidequests and content

>>149720320
buildable arenas, buildable manufacturing facilities, and tons of new shit in general like traps, ways to control lights and turrets, all of these could be applied to the base Fallout game to make hacking into raider computers to reprogram their robots and shit farm ore interesting.

>>149720348
There's some little stuff. There's three minigames, three quests to get uncursed versions of the weapons, and a few little side things to get some smaller rewards and resources.
The main quest you could see being played through on my stream, it's about the size of Dead Money, but there's a bunch of side content and dungeons you can do to get better endings.
In truth, it's big, but not that big. Wheels of Lull is definitely bigger for sure.

>>149720492
We're talking about the Vault-Tec workshop.

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l-lewd

>>149720492
I've never actually used the consoles in any of my settlements, do they actually let you control turrets in some way?

>>149720627

what mod is that?

>>149720563
ohh, well shit like buildable vault pieces for one, news ways to manage power distribution across settlements, tons of new clean versions of furniture, new kinds of guard posts, new items that give you temporary SPECIAL boosts. lots of the new workshop can be applied to other settlements and shit from the base game.

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>>149720627

>>149720107
I think Nuka World will be good if you want to play a raider.
And Maxwell's World will be good if you want to be spooked and have a decent story.

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Just got to play vault dlc.

When I make the bike generator and hook up a terminal, the terminal is stuck on the "initializing" text line and just sits there indefinitely.

Anyone have a similar problem?

>>149720710
contraptions dlc
the bunny suit is on the nexus

>>149720230
What about the story and writing?

>>149720816
>Trainwiz
>decent story
has never happened.

His shit is fun in a memey kinda way, but story is always low tier garbage.

>>149720829
I mean, Nuka World seems to be "become the raider king". Maxwell's World is "try and escape a park controlled by undead Walt Disney and his skeleton army."

>>149720756
>new buildable items

Still waiting on those two more useful things.

>>149720902
Hi darren, I thought you quit?

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>>149715984

NORA WAS MADE FOR DOG COCK

>>149721063
>anyone who doesn't like Trainwiz is darren
ohh please.

>>149721024

>le durr XD upboat

>>149720902
The stream of it looked to be quite good, and Wheels of Lull was great.

>>149721174
>and Wheels of Lull was great.
Sure... if you like memey shit that tries to suck Kirkbride's cock hard without actually understanding why people like Kirkbride, combined with god-awful and grating VA work.

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>>149721167
What are you fucking talking about? I say the workshop is useless, you say it isn't, I say prove how it isn't and you give a bunch of points from a completely different DLC.

>>149721313
Do you just say words and hope they mean something?

>>149721423
No, thats what WoL was.

Trainwiz mods are like playing a decent version of Borderlands.

Its the same sort of dumb
>FOR LE COOL!
kind of shit, just not as poorly done.

Its fun, but that doesn't mean its well written by any measure.

>>149720935
Worried Disney is going to sue you?

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>>149721553
No. Maxwell's parallels to Disney are clear, but not actually infringing in any way.

He's the entertainment mogul with a lot of cartoon characters under his control who liked making people happy and spent tons of money making a big amusement park that had a train. That's the basic similarities and more or less that's where it ends.

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>>149721931

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>>149721931
>skeleton in dress
>still has the tittehs
nice touch

>>149722294
Tried to make the thing fully skeletal, but due to how armor works, I can't. I'd have to change all the suits and dresses to be fully skeletal.
I think them being half-flesh half-skeletal works well enough anyway. People seemed creeped out by it.

>>149721931
Should have skeleton children as well. It'd be weird if the park didn't have any.

>>149722646
The skeleton suit doesn't work like that unfortunately. Buffscale might be able to scale one, but it's not a priority at the moment.

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Will Bethesda ever stop using the godawful Gamebryo (or "Creation Kit" as they call it now)?

>>149722856
>le gamebryo is bad meme

>>149722856
IT

>>149722856
Will Unreal stop using the same engine they have been using for 20 years?

Will MOST game engines finally remove the game code literally codes from DOOM that is still used all the time today?

No, because it works.

>>149722856
There is nothing actually wrong with Gamebryo, and switching to a new engine wouldn't magically fix those issues.
Maybe they should, just so retards like you would stop blaming things on the engine and start blaming things on Bethesda when the exact same issues occur.

>>149723141
There might be even more problems, Bethesda's actually familiar with Gamebryo.

>>149723436
As much shit as we give BEthesda, they have gotten significantly better the last few games.

Oblivion and Fallout 3 were habitual for crashing every 2-3 hours like clockwork even when fully patched.

Skyrim and Fallout 4 on the other hand
-Zero CTDs
-Zero broken quests(at least broken in a way that I noticed)
-No save game corruptions yet
-No instances of enemies getting half cuaght in the terrain like happened ALL THE FUCKING TIME with Fallout 3 and NV

At worst, I've had minor bugs like dragons flying backwords for a week or two, and settlers not equipping their god damn pipboys.

Compare that to Daggerfall which was so broken even BEthesda admitted it was unfixiable, and yeah, they have gotten miles better

>>149723684
Yeah, each iteration has improved, especially in under-the-hood stuff. So there's many little quality of life stuff like in Papyrus and the CK for example, that makes it much better to mod with than Skyrim.

>>149722856
Gamebryo isn't bad. Bethesda is just bad at using it.

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>>149723141
I'd really like to see a Fallout with Fox Engine. It is silky smooth while allowing great graphics.
Meanwhile, we have the unoptimized piece of shit Gamebryo where everything looks like shit and runs like shit.

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>>149723684

atleast its now possible to fix daggerfall

>dfworkshop.net

>>149723974
>assets and shaders are determined by the engine
Now you just sound retarded.

>>149724049
>the level of autism needed to make that
Please tell me it was the japs who made that?

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>>149723914
Fatty.

>>149723969
I would argue that its not even that BEthesda is bad at using it.

The single biggest problem with Bethesda game is their size.

Bethesda games have the scale of something like GTA, or a small MMO, but usually have far more interactivity with the world then either of those games usually allow, with players being able to pick up every piece of cabbage or mutfruit in the game world.

Have you ever seen an MMO at launch? They are buggy pieces of shit that are beyond poorly optimized, every fucking time.

Even fairly basic games like GTA are known for bizzare bugs like enitre parts of the map disappearing into voids and shit.

The simple fact of the matter is, when you make a game that large, theres no way its NOT going to be mountain of bugs and poorly optimized features.

To be perfectly honest, its actually kinda surprising how NOT buggy Bethesda games are compared to game of equal size and interaction

>>149724102
Well, yeah. Creation Engine is unoptimized and Bethesda isn't competent enough to optimise it.
So it plays a role in how the game is.

Sure, it is more stable than it was, but it is still light years behind other engines in terms of optimisation.
Better optimisation allows for better graphics and more content in game.

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>>149724236

As if.

>>149724486
>better interactivity
>YOU CAN MOVE CLUTTER!

Lel.

>>149724683
>Better optimisation allows for better graphics and more content in game.
This is such a naive view on how games works its painful.

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How is this hipster fuck such a dreamboat?

bethesda will never hire more than 100 people to fox that shit

Even if zenmiax has id and the guy who created the cryengine

>>149724842
>dreamboat
>looks like some guy who would lure kids into the bad of his unmarked white van
>writes even worse then Avellone

>>149724842
No homo, but I wouldn't mind making out with Sawyer, he's cute and a great developer.

>>149724683
>Optimization
>Meaning anything for graphics and content

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>>149724695
FAT FUCKING FACE

Why wont any of the vault pieces snap together?
Why is the only floor option in atrium and nothing but atrium items snap to it?
Why does everything use so much rubber?

nice if semi function vault dlc..

NO FUCKING VAULT ELEVATORS!

seriously why even do this

those janky ones are only good for freight

>>149725152
Which vault pieces are you talking about?

>>149724842
>He also wrote and performed several songs for Fallout: New Vegas: "Cobwebs and Rainbows," "Home on the Wastes," "New Vegas Valley," and "Streets of New Reno."

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>>149724961
He's no match for Todd, is he?

>>149725152
you can snap atrium and room pieces, just involves placing and deleting pieces

>>149725232
>>149725339

Trying to connect overseer walls to atrium walls but nothing is working for me, am i doing something wrong?

>>149724836
Not at all.
Reason why MGSV looked great and ran smooth was the engine.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-mgs5-fox-engine

If Bethesda optimised shit, we could have a lighter game that looked better.
Of course it wouldn't have more content because we're talking about Bethesda, but a good developer sure could use the better optimisation to improve and expand the game content without worrying about awful system reqs and the like.

>>149725439
hard to explain.. build them.. together, sometimes ceilings fuck it up

>>149725509
that game, ugh.. could have been so much more,

also Kojima please stop writing the plot for your games

>>149725713
Damn, alright ill keep working with it

>>149725121
The bikini doesn't match the rest of the look.

>>149723684

Skyrim was only a step up from Oblivion performance wise and aesthetically.

Oblivion was a much better game.

>>149725713

Kojimas problem isn't that he is a hack writer. It's that now he's been surrounded by yes men who wont call him on his shit. People like Kojima have a lot of ideas, but not all of them are gold plated.
And without the polish that comes from a good and respected team, those ideas don't translate very well into media.

Probably grasping at straws here but when listening to vault 88 emergency broadcast they threw a code out at the last bit. Reminded me of the synth designation code.

More I thought about it there really is no reason for the SS to go out there. Why would they help vault tec and to a lesser extent some ghoul bitch who just wants to fuck with people?

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>>149725934
meh, It was the trashiest one I could find. But if you know of a trashier one I'd love to see it.

Not like I make my characters in my game wear swimwear all the time, Unlike a certain "modder" that frequents this general.

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Stay safe out there, stalkers.

>>149726215
You can straight up tell her that you hate vault tech, only came because you were curious and wanted inside and tell her to fuck off.

>>149723684
>-No instances of enemies getting half cuaght in the terrain like happened ALL THE FUCKING TIME with Fallout 3 and NV

Are you joking?
That shit happens ALL the time in 4. I've seen it multiple times in every playthrough with literally every conceivable enemy.

What can elevators snap to in Vault-Tec? This shit is retarded, it's all prefabs, no fucking floors and roofs.

I assigned settlers to vault 88 but can't find them and using the bell didn't turn them up, ideas?

>>149727170
Did the population number actually go up?

If it did, I can imagine that they might wander away down into the infinite tunnels of the vault.

I had that problem on Spectacle Island, some settlers just decided to hang out on the far side and when I rang the bell they'd take so long that closer people would start to leave before the far ones even arrived.

>>149727170
Did you wait at all or did you just ring the bell?

>>149727170
Use the siren, it gets them to run.

>>149726535
Anyone?

>>149725152
To connect the atrium to something else you have to build a doorway, then connect a doorway from another room type to that doorway.

each doorway is only half of the actual doorway, one half from each room type you are connecting

>>149727849
atrium floors, but we really need proper vault elevators.. like the ones IN EVERY OTHER VAULT

>>149727891
Oh, i was only making one doorway, so i actually need two? one on each side?

>>149727972

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11977/?

try this?

>>149727972
elevators in vaults are used to hide loading screens, IIRC, they dont actually function, which is likely why they aren't buildable.

>>149728108
yes, you need a doorway on each side.

Each doorway piece is only THAT SIDE of the doorway, you need two doorways ot make a full door

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FoG needs more thick women.

>>149728276
Wow, i feel really stupid, thank you so much anon.

>>149728470
Don't feel that way, I had the same problem for like 20-30 minutes before I JUST tried and found thats how to do it

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>>149728342
there are other, better places for such things

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>>149728662
Nobody wants a Vault Tec Sales Rep with over 200 years of experience!

>>149728642

JUST

>>149728342
but we do
hydra the raider

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>>149728342
Sure, go post some

new dolphin porn when?

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>>149728851
Someone actually remembers my name.

Thanks.

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>>149728970
Sure

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>>149724842

Can settlers path through the new vault door? Having trouble getting Danse to path through

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>>149728342

>>149730097
Can you order a settler to open or close it?

>>149730458
I can have them toggle it, but they don't want to walk through.

>>149730684
Can you order them to the other side of the door?

>>149730774
I can order them to Go to the other side but they will not path through the door. They either run into a nearby wall or walk up to the door and shuffle in front of it, but won't walk through.

>>149730973
Just asked my brother and he couldn't get them to go through either...seems like a pretty big oversight.

>>149730973
Hey.. It Just works

What exactly do overseer items connect to? cant get them to connect to doorcaps or anything besides themselves

>>149731443
If you make an overseer office with a single door, that door has to connect to another door, specifically one with that door endcap either prebuilt into it or from the end of the domestic/utility section. Same thing with atrium doors.

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>>149728342
Okay

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what piece fits in the gaps?

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>>149731573
I have double doors, they just arent snapping to them

>>149731738
none silly!

>>149731824
Make the overseer door the last part to complete the doorway.

>Download the AnyModAnyWeapon mod

>It's a fucking godawful amateurhour smorgish board of trash with no sense given to logical weapon mod allowances.


FFS.

>>149732629
It's called any mod any weapon for a god damn reason you illiterate fucking troglodyte

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>>149728342

>>149733105
>next to a large body of water
>still crusted in filth
That's pretty grody honestly.

>>149733105
That cuts gonna get infected being that dirty.

>>149732629
>make sick ass weapon with that mod
>JUST fuck my shit up tier in first person

>>149733062

Within reason, you spastic oniontwat.

holy fuck.

>>149733316
And the name of the mod makes no fucking claims about being reasonable,

>>149733295

It wouldn't suck so bad if at the very least there was an attempt made to insure the fucking sights & shit are aligned.

That's where I take the biggest issue.

Great alternative sights don't align on a given weapon, despite the weapon having the right length.

/k/lanking intensifies.

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>>149733294
That's a scar. The cut's on the tummy, my dude.

>>149731738
there's also no roof pieces that snap into place inbetween the atrium sides

>>149733458

>gotta show off my sexy c-section

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>>149733458
I think I ment to say scar, the heat here is fucking with me badly.

>>149733901

c-sections aren't that high up, you dummy

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Are we posting raider girls?

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>>149733918
iktf

For some reason my room is the hottest in the house. And no AC really makes me feel like I'm living in an oven.

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>>149734316
You win. You are the THICCest on /fog/

Congratulations.

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>>149734328

>tfw 110+ degrees with no proper AC

>>149734316
Keep your fat to yourself

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>>149734498
I don't know how I should feel about that.
>>149734619
Nah.

>>149734839
Post ass and feet

>>149734328
I know that feel, I'd kill for some humidity over dry heat anyday.

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>>149734839
Just realized somebody else is using Cross Cybernetics. I feel happy.

>>149734328
How is the humidity? 50% at my place, if it gets any higher at my place I'd be be better off dropping my PC in the bathtub.

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>>149735326
70% here where I am.

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>>149735290

He needs to come back and update his mods

>>149735326
>>149735525

You lucky niggers.

>11pm EST
>76 Degrees
>Real Temp 83
>Fucking 77% humidity.
>Can feel it on my fucking skin.

>>149735525
I'm surprised you haven't drowned

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>>149735290
Teched-out heavies that look like they're wearing part of the junkyard they crawled out of is where it's at.

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>>149733105
>Water takes up most of the map
>Can make water purifiers and industrial sized water purifiers
>Soap in the game
>Detergent and other cleaners
>Character is dirty

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>>149735728
On the Internet, no one knows you are wearing scuba gear.

>>149735928
>Water takes up most of the map
Like 1/3 at most

>>149734316
>>149734839
>>149735846
Is that you, CA?

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>>149735928
She has access to showers, but is always to busy running around the commonwealth high off her ass and eating people to bother using them.

>>149736079
I keep hearing about "CA" but no one ever says what it means

THE PEOPLE OF FAR HARBOR

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>>149735931
Post Scuba gear

What lights have you found that work for the inside of vaults? Currently mine is just spooky dark everywhere.

Windows 10 is 23% downloaded

>hold me /fog/, I'm scared

>>149736456
>windows 10
enjoy your spyware botnet

>>149736456
dude, why?

I haven't seen the 40Kiddies around lately. Are they gone?

>>149736568

Everyone's gone Tbh

>>149728970
sauce or who she is for "future research"?

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>>149736606
But why? D-Don't they like my game?

>>149736568
They finally went back to Tumblr

>>149736495
my FREE spyware botnet

>>149736536
because ever since ripping windows 95 out of my second PC and trying to put 3.11 back I've fought every upgrade and eventually you're just fucked and have no choice. so wth.

besides native linux client running in windows
>yummy

As much as I shat on the
>THE MINUTEMEN WILL BECOME THE NEXT NCR!
Meme for being retarded, the fact they now have access to vault-technology might actually change my mind

>Controll tons of settlements across the wastes
>Including Bunker hill, the trade center of the Commonwealth
>If they defeat The Institute, Diamond City, the largest city in New England, starts flying their flags in support
>Can establish trade by boat to places 200 miles away like Far Harbor
>Have access to their own Vault + Vault-Tec technologies.
They are getting pretty powerful DESU SENPAI

>>149736786
luckily they have you since preston is a spinless cuck

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>>149736568
>>149736735

the 16 years old samefag who believes that 40k belongs to 4chan, but he doesn't know of the existence of /tg/ sacred wiki.... and that 40k was always here since 4chan was born

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>>149736995
>samefag

But anyway, glad to know you guys are still lurking.

>>149736995
ALL THIS HERESY!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEGo41443iI

>>149737143
That's incredibly easy to edit into anything you want. Don't even need PS open.

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>>149737143

what did he mean by this

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>>149735697
>>149735326
>90 during daytime
>90-100% humidity
>this is normal weather where i live

>>149737501
>90-100% humidity
Do you have scuba gear or some shit?

that is LITERALLY underwater

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>>149737501
wtf are you a fish?

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>>149737463
I was going to say that that is weak bait. but then I saw >>149737487

>mfw

Good job editing but I am not the samefag

>>149737487
he's just the samefag spammer trying to bait and say that 40k comes from tumblr

just report him, the janny hates when someone shittalks about 40k

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>/fog/ dead
>nexus mods stagnate
>last DLC on the way

Is this the end? Are we just going split and revert to playing Skyrim and New Vegas now?

So out of the "big 5" wasteland areas of the east coast we have already seen The Captial Wasteland, The Pitt, and the Commonwealth, leaving only Ronto and the broken Banks.

Do you think Bethesda will go into Canada next, or go into the south?

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Fuck, I'm starting to regret this Legion playthrough. I feel like the only way to convincingly play a Legionnaire is to roleplay a savage murderer.

Why the fuck are Legionnaires so savage when the Legion is supposed to bring about civilization?

Does closing the vault door do jack shit since there's apparently other entrances?

>>149738496
Whatever face mod you're using is awful.

>>149738396
There's plenty of history in the north east left to utilize, not like they really have to go to canada.

That said I would fancy a Fallout set in the South. Seems like it would be fun.

>>149738496

>Why the fuck are Legionnaires so savage when the Legion is supposed to bring about civilization?

>he believed the meme

>>149738396
South, next TES will also be in southern Tamriel.

>>149738496
>the Legion is supposed to bring about civilization?
Look at this brainwashed skirt bearer.

So I was visiting Abernathy Farms for the first time, about 100 hrs in, when a vertibird shows up and starts laying into poor Lucy (and me). I saved before attacking it (though Nick got some shots in), and we dropped it right away. I'm wondering if this is some kind of glitch, or if I should worry about pissing off the Brotherhood because I technically attacked them. Or is it canon that the brotherhood attacks non-aligned settlements? I'm on the BOS quest Shadow of Steel.

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>>149738496
>Legion
>ever

Independent is the true NV ending

>>149738689
>There's plenty of history in the north east left to utilize
Given how Bethesda has repeatedly treated cities like Philly and NYC as being not a big deal post-war, I don't think they have any intention of going to them.

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>>149738684

NVR3. This is the .esm version. Though I agree vanilla Caesar has a "wise" charm these don't have.

>>149738705
>>149738717

Caesar truly wants the well being of the wasteland, right?

r-right?

>>149739029

Caesar just wants to crush his enemies, see them driven before him, and hear the lamentations of their women

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>>149739231

CAESAR-KUN WOULD NEVER LIE TO ME.

>>149738496
The Legion is a military dictatorship.

They only strike the scum. They literally never killed an innocent person.

>>149738352
>Implying I ever played skyrim
I only ever completed enough of oblivion to end up a vampire and vampirism sucks in that game without mods to be able to attack people instead of sneaking around at night

>>149740279
>forged from the remains of conquered tribes who most likely only killed when they had to or in self defense/warring with other tribes
this is what legionfags believe

>>149740390
>bringing unity to a bunch of savages is bad now
This is what YesCucks believe.

I'm not even a Legionfag, I prefer the NCR, but the Legion is literally not that bad.

>>149740390
Vampirism was only made good in Skyrim with Dawnguard. Only thing Dawngaurd was good for.

Fuck werewolves.

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Reminder that TANDI A QT! A QT!

so is sexmod out yet

Is Vanilla Survival mode not meant to be fucking played?

I'm having a helluva time just getting started with an Alternate life mod.

>Legendary Mr Gutsy
>I've started as a Mercenary with Metal armor
>One round from his damn gun TKOs me.

>>149741275
depends where you start

some areas have minimum levels or densely packed enemies which you need to be outfitted for. if you can grind your way up to level 10 or so, it's less of an issue. by level 15 you should be able to take on pretty much anything, or live long enough to run away from it.

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>>149741275
Alternate start is a bit of a dice roll when it comes to bad spawns like that. Once you've gotten a game started that doesn't kill you quickly, you really need to be as observant as possible. Stumbling onto shit in the early game tends to end with you reloading.

Do pipboys do anything for settlers or is it just an accessory?

>>149742165
As far as I am aware its just an accessory

>>149742141
>dem hips

>>149740494
>I'm not even a Legionfag, I prefer the NCR, but the Legion is literally not that bad.

The Legion is awful because it's built around a Strong Man.

NCR was fine after Tandi died, and will be fine after Kimball dies, and Okefenokee after him, and so on. The Legion isn't fine after Kaisar dies unless the almighty Courier steps in.

Did Buff ever finish that hair mod

>Legion
>Big muscle men
>Wear skirts
>Take spears from behind

Wew

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>>149741854
>>149742141

>Got Mutant Overhaul installed
>Mercenary start
>At that insane asylum
>Seems innocious enough
>I'm way the fuck aways from Diamond City

>Cross the river
>Ambushed by OHK mutant hound
>Reload
>Head off somewhere else
>Get near a trailer out in the middle of fucking nowhere
>Sneak around the side
>Goddamned Sentry Bot comes on line
>Reload
>Some kinda sink hole
>Go down in it, paranoid about whats in it
>Goddamn Legendary Deathclaw comes screaming out of a Cargo Container.

Jaysus.

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Wow, that's a tough waifu!

>>149742958

Atleast fix her fucking forehead so she doesn't look so unnatural.

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>>149743121
Does this guy look unnatural to you, bozo?

>>149743284
Literally who

>>149743121
that's his whole gimmick, lad

>>149715447
Hey fog, if you honestly were rebuilding the Minutemen, how would you set it up? Would it be Not! Arizona Rangers? CL? Would you make it another raider clan like Talon and Gunners?
What would you do with Preston? Sarge? Ronnie Shaw?
I'm having writer's block and id like some input, thanks.

>>149738496
>>149740279
>>149740390
>>149740494
>>149742586
Can I just share then:

>NCR
Decent, not the best but alot better than Caesar's Legion
>House
IMO is the best since he has a long term plan and goal to make New Vegas a long lasting and prosperous civilization with open trade and fair border laws, IMO atleast.
>Yes Man
Not a very good endgame if you ask me. Vegas being ruled by questionable robot who may or may not be secretly evil. While the Courier himself/herself has zero experience in being a leader for a civilization. He/She can have 10/10 charisma and intelligence, but I doubt he/she ever has what it takes to really lead lands and large amounts of people that are not companions.
>The Legion
Just pretty much the worst, they're not even a good Roman Legion. A cheap imitation of good 'ol Rome.

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>>149743416
>Doesn't know Frank Vincent
What's the matter, you gettin' fuckin' fresh?

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Thread I'm thirsty, thirsty for pics of characters in good suits or in the silver shroud costume. Please?

>>149743832
You look at Caesars legion wrong, which I did until recently.
They're a take on Caesar's legion, Legio X, Equistris, which is Latin for horse.
They're physically based off Roman concepts but in all but name their culture is steppe people, also known as the horse people, the Huns, Mongols, Etc.
A thinly veiled pun surrounded by irony, considering late imperial armies were literally tribes of barbarians selling service to Rome.

>>149743729
As an ally and partner to the Institute that is undergoing internal reformations under a director who is much more capable of herding scientists around and bent on improving relations with the Commonwealth. The Minutemen would be left to act as they normally would, but with the benefit of institute resources to improve their wargear and training.

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>>149744037

>>149743729

Preston: Shot
Ronnie: Shot
Sarge: Dismantled for scrap|

Minute Men would be re-purposed into a real paramilitary outfit. Not as some silly defense force for a fucking wild wasteland, but instead do what a military is meant to do. Wage war. Conquer.

The only way to tame a land is through violence and bloodshed. And in that bloodshed, independence can be born again.

>>149744224
I need specifics, what would they get? Would you say, make Preston the Northern Common Sherriff based out of Sanctuary?

>>149744302

Careful, you might cut yourself with that edge

>>149742141
Those hips are hilariously awful. It's like you just set the slider to 100, did some work on the abdomen and thought it was good enough.

>>149744302
I dunno, shooting your vets is bad for morale, just ask Stalin.
Just another raider clan sounds boring, but thanks for the reply.

>>149744412

Yeah I guess the founding fathers were pretty edgy, huh

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So what do you guys think of Vault DLC?

I'm enjoying it purely because of the amount of stuff you can scrap and putting together all the vault pieces is nice and clean. F4 should've just been a settlement based spinoff t b h

>>149744472
>bloodshed
Nigga Washington killed more Americans with nonexistent supply lines than redcoats did with bullets.

>>149744454

Preston and Ronnie don't have the stones to do what is needed to be done.

How are we supposed to make the common wealth safe by spreading our untrained farmers so thin doing menial tasks for other farmers?
The minutemen need to dig in, train soldiers, and and actually fight.

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>>149743729
Instead of being a historical re-enactment group, I would tie their beginning to national guard and army stationed in the Commonwealth.

One group focused on trying to protect the civilian population in exchange for resources and recruits, the other became the Gunners.

The split is why these two heavily armed groups were at each others throats.

Make them look more like a proper, 'modern' military group.

>>149744079
Yeah I get Caesar's Legion is OBVIOUSLY based off of Ancient Rome in general. What I mean by them being the worse is not entirely being Roman cosplayers, but just them being shitty backwards people.

So again; NCR= Not the best, but just decent enough to be with. House= The best 'cause just see >>149743832

Yes Man= Again, see >>149743832

Legion= Just plain bad shitty people, more like raiders in glorified armor and slightly better hierarchy

>>149744693
>train soldiers
Mate you want to shoot the only people aside from you that can train the shits because you don't agree with them.

>>149744319
Minutemen be provided with hybrid tech rifles that incorporate traits of both institute laser weaponry and the laser musket's ability to charge up shots. Everyone would get at least a breastplate painted in Minutemen colors and anyone who leads a local detachment of Minutemen, who will now be selected more carefully, will get an emergency teleporter beacon that will call for Institute reinforcements.

>>149744768

They can train the farmers to be obedient white knights who can shoot gay crank-lasers and die. Neither of them now what the fuck a soldier is.

Also, they wouldn't agree with me. Big difference.

>>149744750
No, no, I'm not asking you to re-write them from the ground up, I'm asking you what you would start doing right after retaking the Castle and actually having more than Preston & Co. at your call.

>>149744753
I'm not the lad you're replying to, calm down and realize that when you call things that weren't supposed to be near imitations of rome cheap imitations I get the feeling you misunderstood them.

>>149744836
Would you keep Preston in any position of relevance? Ronnie?

>>149745004
>I NEEED AN ECHO CHAMBER
Kek.

>>149743729
Sarge?

>>149745246
Sentry Bot in the Castle, went rogue, had to kill him
would you rebuild him?

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It

just

works

>>149745209
Preston and Ronnie would stay as they were. See no reason to kick them from their positions.

>>149745209
>>I NEEED AN ECHO CHAMBER
>Kek.

I don't need an echo-chamber, but I also don't need two faggots who not only accepted me into a position of power, but placed me there, suddenly start undermining my authority because I hurt their feelies when I shift focus away from protecting pure innocent wasteland farmers and towards building an actual military so we can start actually doing something worthwhile.

They'd be nothing but an obstacle.

>>149743729
>>149743729
Their goal should be to consolidate the regular people like farmers and whatever into a single location (or a few close locations), not try to defend 130485393 shitty pieces of land in the middle of nowhere

Imagine the Castle, but bigger and fully staffed with people who just want to live their life peacefully, but trained to defend their new home

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>>149743729
>>149744224
>>149744319
>>149744836
>>149745621
Don't ya just love it when people in like comment sections, tumblr and 4chan are capable of thinking and making of a much better story and endgame than Bethesda themselves.

>>149745532
Eh, I feel like Preston has potential but isn't ready to be anything approaching second in command. I'd keep him as say, a Sheriff or just one of our regional leaders. Ronnie would probably keep an unofficial yet official advisor position with no really relevant political power.

>>149745595
Mate, I don't really care, just another raider gang is more boring than what I was planning on writing.

>>149745621
I like this, but at the same time I think they should have locations like the castle (EG, Sanctuary Hills, Bunker Hill, and Egret Marina) spread out as consolidation points. I don't want them to be like the CW BoS and just fall back from actual strongpoints because of political agendas.

>>149745923
I'm just an innocent writefaggot trying to get some discussion going without turning it into a shitstorm man, live and let die.

>>149745923
everyone you quoted has had terrible ideas though.

>>149745947
Why not have fortified locations with settlements about, then when you're ready to expand territory, fortify the settlements closest to the area and make new settlements ones around.

>>149745947
Yeah that works, Castle is their main base but they could have some Minutemen outposts and that could tie into the artillery fire, covering more area.

But the way they're completely spread out in the game really bugs me. I get why from a gameplay standpoint but in terms of story/immersion it's retarded. They don't have magical fast travel in the "real" Fallout, so the idea of rushing across the entire Commonwealth to defend some shitty farm is retarded.

Do settlers randomly die?

Was clearing the vault caves when I noticed I was missing a person. Wasn't until I checked the sleeping quarters til I found the culprit.

Was one of the original three, blonde guy, just dead in bed.

Doubt it was an enemy. No blood, all limbs intact, and everyone else was fine.

Could it be from the drinks I developed?

>>149745947
>Mate, I don't really care, just another raider gang is more boring than what I was planning on writing.

It's not a raider gang, you dull twit. It's an American military, led by an American soldier. It's the fucking continental army, no longer a civilian militia. The only thing that it's missing is a congress.

This would be a raider gang like the real continental army was a terrorist organization.

>Barstow's fingers when she's typing

Fuck

>>149746307
>They don't have magical fast travel in the "real" Fallout, so the idea of rushing across the entire Commonwealth to defend some shitty farm is retarded.
So the ideas that the real world minutemen worked on are retarded?

>>149746325
Which drink did you go with?

>>149745209
>No, no, I'm not asking you to re-write them from the ground up, I'm asking you what you would start doing right after retaking the Castle and actually having more than Preston & Co. at your call.

Stepping into the shoes of a pre-war soldier, start training. Divide forces into ground and air, capture Vertibirds from Gunners to provide for the limited air support.

Split ground forces into peacekeeping, reconnaissance, engineering, logistics and infantry to start. Peacekeepers sit in affiliated settlements with a radio to call for support, handle local issues like a policeman. Recon are scouts, keeping an eye on threats and possible threats. Engineering build and maintain shit, from weapons, to primitive fortifications. Logistics hand supply lines for both the Minutemen and affiliated settlements, work with local traders as required. Infantry are bodies with weapons that keep the other groups protected and push back against organized threats.

Air force is there to provide support, recon and to drop off special forces where they are needed.

>>149746372
The real world minutemen defended against super mutant suiciders?

>hey minutemen can you come save u-KABOOM

>>149746338

That's what all the raiders tell themselves

>>149746404
Mood booster.

>>149746478
>capture Vertibirds from Gunners
So capture vertibirds from the Gunners, who captured them from the BoS?

Unless you delcare open war on the BoS, the BoS is going to want those back.

>>149746213
That's kind of what I meant, the settlement system on a smaller, more focused scale, with actual trouble points and actual strongpoints getting the attention, leaving room for fetch and radiant quests/defending settlements, but with less of a "I'm the only competent one"
>>149746307
I mean the MM aren't a permanent org at that point, but yeah I completely understand. My castle is full of settlers and I have 3 minutemen.

>>149746372
I mean, yeah, they kinda were only relevant for a short period of time in a very specific kind of warfront.

>>149746338
But the Continental army -was- a terrorist org. by modern standards, it was just -our- terrorist org.

>>149746478
>>149746565
It's completely possible to negotiate with the BoS in the CW, and a unified MM would probably make them pause just half a second before they jumped in.

>>149746539

No it isn't, what the fuck.

Raiders tell themselves they want chems and caps. What fucking raiders want to rebuild the American Military?

Sorry I want to shoot your girlfriend Preston because he's a pussy.

>>149746646
>It's completely possible to negotiate with the BoS in the CW, and a unified MM would probably make them pause just half a second before they jumped in.
No, a unified MM would not, because the MM are still a bunch of simple farmers.

Maybe if the BoS had come like two decades after the MM had become this military force you propose, but immediately after the events of the MQ?

Na.

The BoS defeated the armies of the Capital Wasteland Super Mutants, and the Enclave.

The MM would get smashed.

>>149746662
>denial
Mate, you just want to become Not! raiders, like Talon Company, or the Gunners.
Tho I guess we could get away with a cheap BoS ripoff.

>>149746565
>>149746646
Gunners have their own vertibirds in a couple of locations

>>149746646
>But the Continental army -was- a terrorist org. by modern standards, it was just -our- terrorist org.

>terrorist organization with a functional congress, a civilian represented government with elected leadership, ethical means of economic growth, and lands they cultivated themselves.

Sure thing. People standing up and taking whats theirs isn't terrorism just because it challenges the global elite.

>>149746795
Gunners only get vertibirds after the BoS show up, and since they don't have them before then, and we can see gunners attempting to steal them, its pretty safe to assume all of them are stolen.

>>149746771

No vision at all.

None of those factions want to rebuild the world.
This would be more in line with the Enclave, just not without all the bigotry and shadows.

>>149746325
There might be synths in your settlement who are killing them.

>>149746978
Ehh, debateable.

The BoS don't want to help rebuild the world themselves, but they do want to help the people of the wasteland have a more secure state of living, which indirectly fuels that.

>>149746909
Gunners attempt to steal BoS vertibirds because they can fly them.

They have their own Vertibird attack teams, 4 Gunners and some dogs that they drop off.