/domg/ - Dominions General

ded like bats is gonna be.

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>>149696143
God bless.

>>149696143
suuuuuuuuuuure.

>>149696143
I hope Oceania/Atlantis/TNN are on their way to save you (and all of us) from the batmageddon.

Abysia, if you hear this, you can reach bats from the cave. They didn't take Cold 3 like some fools, and every sane person should give you a wide berth so you can shove some Burning Ones up bat ass.

>>149696840

i asked people to hire me to rush dangerous blood nations.
i reiceived no gold, zero fucking incentives, so why would i try to defeat the strongest(lanka built against me, bats can gameover me because i have mapmove 1 and he has flying map move 3) nations out there when i can eat some mediocre neighbour ?
do you really expect me to move my precious sacreds 6-7 turns away from my cap to conquer provinces i will never be able to keep?

>>149697301
I presume by mediocre neighbor you mean C'tis or Machaka? Hinnom can cause you issues, Lanka (as you said) built against you, so those would be the two best options.

I'm sure you can kill the Africa nations before bat's get to Ozzies. And it's Flatus Bats too, so not exactly some strategical genius.

Noob here, what does it mean when I take an indie province and there's already a site there discovered?

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>>149697301
>hire me
What are you, a mercenary band ? Can I get you for 3 months ?

>>149698186

It means there was already a site there that doesn't need searched to find. Sites are generated at game start. A majority need searched out in order to find them, but there are some that are always revealed.

Sites are generally always in effect, even if you haven't found them yet. This means if you expand into a province with no dominion, and notice that it has unusual scales, you can frequently use that to narrow down the location of a site. The mod inspector lets you filter sites by their effects on scales.

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>>149698186
>>149698545
Anyone with a possible site can use this as a reference. I suppose it's not outdated.
>Sites are generally always in effect
Except for the sweet sweet gems

>>149698186

nothing in particular aside for the fact it's there.

many sites can be added by events ( that can happen to indipendents too). press i to read event history of the province.Some sites have events linked to them ( for example mist covered highlands sometimes get swarmed by air mages).

Many sites require no magical path to discover. They are "free"!

>>149698191
well more or less.

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>>149696143
How can you save the world from bats, if you can't even save yourself?

>>149699034
Speaking of staling, can frosty giants and chinks do their turns ? At least the chinks, giants can fuck off back where they came from.

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>>149699256
We'll find out in 2 hours I guess.

Right. Still looking for an MA Arco sub. Our current one is apparently having trouble looking at Barbarians because something something sprites are fucked(?).

Might be a Summod error common to everyone, but I'm not 100% on that.

Arco, if you could provide further detail and the exact error message that'd likely help getting you sorted out. I need to collapse now, but I'll get to responses tomorrow morning, if you reply to this post. Have extended the timer again so you can avoid staling until we work out what the hell's going on.

>tfw thread always has 3 Death scales

>>149700187
can i have more info about the game? how many times did arco stale?

>>149701723
0.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ForAFistfulOfDeathgems

>>149701723
0, it's turn 2, there's an error.

>>149692702
If that's worth it then tribless lictors better be the best goddamn unit in the game.

>>149701671
It died due to being past bump limit
>>149702372
It's a lot easier to empower if you're not in summod.

>>149702372
yes, you need to empower your mage. unfortunatel it's gonna take a while in summod ermor.

you could also go for construction 4 and craft yourself a skull staff, which given the delayed D gems gain of summod it might be worth it.

it's not worth it to summon multiple spectator( u guess one would be fine) to research faster, i'd rather empower. run math to discover what's faster and by how much.

>>149702576
I was talking about this thread (and the general in general) being dead, when I posted that it was on page 10.

>>149702761
Autosaging?

>>149702651
Spectators are better researchers for gem cost at Mag 3

>>149704163
i am happy for better researchers, but i really want badass mages that do something more than skelespam eventually.

>>149704260
>eventually
Then be fine with not having them till you get a skull staff at const 4.

>>149704163
sorry, they're as good*
12-12 and 20-20

Spectators also really aren't useless in combat by any stretch. Obviously dusk elders are awesome, and you want as many of them as possible, but spectators are perfectly serviceable as shadowblasters and sneaky raiders if you need that.

>>149700187
How do you sub into a game?

>>149700187
Its not common to everyone. I've seen it exactly one other time, and it was fixed by redownloading the .tga in question.

>>149703914
No anon, something even worse.

Inactivity.

>>149704945
you talk to the admin and you privately give him your email. he will do the magic for you and you will receive the turn by email.

>>149704945

Basically provide an email address, and the admin can tell llamaserver to send you the turns instead of the original player.

>>149704945
The admin changes the player's e-mail to yours.

Anyways, it might be worth having Arco send the turnfile to sum1 or Lambert if either of them aren't in the game so that they can see if they can replicate the problem

>>149705416
I'm in the game, but pinky-promise not to cheat. Sy is also pretty good at sorting this stuff.
>Lamb

>>149697301
So if I change my turn right now and send you an anonymous donation of all my gold you will deal with the batman?

>>149705982
Only for 3 turns, then you have to rebid.

At least I think that's how it goes.

>>149705537
>Sy
Also in the game, actually.

>>149705982
depending on how fucking big it is. i would like to discuss it or i will be forced to return it if it's not enough.

>>149707606
Others might be interested in throwing money into the pot if Mictlan is short.

>>149708091
No

>>149708198
>ForAFistfulOfDeathgems Ermor
You're abysia?

>>149708545
No

Long time no see guys! I have some Great News! Next turn, there will be a Tournament! I know what you are all thinking, 'how could he pay for such a big event, so fast?' Well, it is because I am good with gems, and I know how to run an economy right. I don't need reimbursement, I just want everyone to have a good time and see a great show.

If you really want to though, I will gladly accept donations to the Trump campaign for a safer nation. Make Oeridia Great Again!

>>149710126
I figured as much. Thought it was weird that he was replying to me

>>149710441
What nation are you?

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>>149697301
You should probably get in contact with the good monkeys.

Welp.
>get back to hotel
>35 minutes left for the turn because the fagmin didn't extend it at all
>shitshithit
>30 minutes of intensive unit moving and mage scripting
>image related happens
This I what you get for having friends. I'm really mad right now with the game.

This plus the fagmin not extending it enough even if I aked for it makes me really want to go AI.

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For a communion nation, Maverni sure lacks good astral pretender options

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>>149714905
I'm retarded enough to forget the image.

>>149714998
Given that you took a picture of your screen with a camera forgetting the image is probably the least of your worries

>>149715171
It's a Mac running Windows. Is there a way to printscreen here? Because I couldn't find the way.

>>149713740
He's bats, lording it over the world since he got to eat 1/2 of Abysia/Agartha/Ulm for free, along with all of Mictlan/C'tis.

>That point when you're more than 100 gems ahead of the next highest dude. And winning on all other counts as well.

Thankfully, domg couldn't stop a snowball to save its life.

>>149715343
I am not Lording, I am acting Presidential. You also seem to have some facts wrong. I only got 1/3 of Ulm and Agartha, and Lanka was the one that got all but 3 of Abysia's provinces. I am absolutely ahead of just about everything though, as the future elected leader of Oeridia should be.

You shouldn't be so modest Lanklinton, you have nearly 70 gems over the 3rd highest person at last check (not including your blood slave income) and have been free to eat at least one of your 'allies' against me with no retaliation. your shilling and calls for war have no traction. I work with others to help them using the wealth that I made with successful management practices, where you threaten war on people that are late on a single payment or that don't follow your direction. Yes, I still remember your words about Fomoria and about the late Pangaea. Your narrative is falling apart.

>>149714067
They went AI. I assume that is what the message is about.

>>149707606
I will give you 2000 gold a turn for 3 turns till you deal with the bats. You are being paid to do the right thing

>>149716795
A. if that were me, I would have cited the actual numbers you were ahead of me (which is well in excess of 100 gems, closer to 200 gems - from the other side - if we count the gain you get from Forge of the Ancients)
B. I took 6 Abysian provinces, counting capital. He only had 9 (unless someone else took them, wasn't paying attention to that). So 1/3 of Abysia would be more accurate than 1/2.
C. Most importantly, I'm more or less just waiting for you to cap the thrones and win (and maybe kill TC in 2 turns - not 2 turns from now, but like, actually just take 2 turns to kill him). I don't really have time for it, and I know how this script plays - I played the same part in All Yesterdays as Agartha. No point in spending hours scripting to stop the inevitable, just like in All Yesterdays where people sat and watched me win, they'll do the same here for you.

Also, allying with someone, and then chainstalling -> going AI makes you a pretty shit ally. And like in every memegame, I've only ever fought stalers and AIs, cause that's how you win. I just got unlucky on the placement, and wasn't next to as many.

Hey, can I get Helheim on the line in /Van/? We need to talk.

>>149718063
>2000 gold a turn for 3 turns till you deal with bats

so you are saying 6000 gold?
and how much do you want me to deal with them?

be a bit more clear because you are trying to tell me i should drag 20 of my map move 1 sacreds through 8 provinces, one of which is a tier 2 throne, to inflict damage on bats. i can do it, but i don't know how it will end up

>>149719287
I mean look at it this way, he's buying the sacreds, right? And probably the army units to, cause man is 6000 gold a lot.

Also, congrats to Mictlan. You survived longer than the last Mictlan did.

ForAFistfulOfDeathgems admin are you here?
Are you trying to find a replacement or will you let Arcoscephale go AI?

>>149718973
Unless you lost a significant number of sites over the last few turns, you should not have fallen so far behind in gems. You also should try harder when trying to fool the guy that had Eyes of God up when talking about how many provinces you got from someone. It is not my fault that only people that choose to stale and AI want to side with you, seems you end up with a lot of low-energy people.

I also put forward that the first nation I ever came up at odds against in Memegeddon was a nation that had not staled, and had not AI'ed. Mictlan. A nation that many people cite as a nation that no one wants to play against. I listened to the voices of the masses and helped them make a better Oeridia. A nation with strong sacreds that was a real threat to the safety of many should they have been left alive.

>>149719287
By deal with I mean DEAL WITH.

>>149719698
I'm relatively new, how'd the last me do?

>>149719516
In this game? Honestly, not really. Everyone is going to have gorillions of gold to spare even after building a fort in every single province.

If you are honestly able to spend all of your gold, something has gone wrong somewhere.

>>149719516
not the right way to look at it sir.
My sacreds are the only good thing i have, just paying their gold cost isn't enough: 2 turns of my cap sacreds are life to me.
6000 gold is clearly more than their gold cost, but the gigantic lenght of land i will have to cross makes me wonder if there is enough worth in the offer. perhaps with other indipendent donors i will move my ass.

>>149720504
You can spend it all to build 1 resource units, even if your race doesn't have any you can buy indies.

For example building shamblers to capture water provinces quickly as a land nation.

>>149719836
Your own admission to me was that you had 497 gems per turn, with Forge of the Ancients being worth 70-100 or so. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm not even at 400 gems yet.

And your fight with Mictlan was a brutal beating, not really a fight. The only fight this entire game that happened was the Anti-Ermor coalition. And man, isn't it sad that people in MemegeddonIII - an EA game - are better at joining hands against Ermor than the players in ErmorOP.

Also, loaded an old file real quick. I took 7 from Aby, and you only took 2.

>>149696840
How the fuck do i reach him

>>149705052
I downloaded both the .tga and the entire mod anew. Hell I even downloaded the turn anew.

>>149720446
The last you died to Arco. After literally years upon years of fighting. It was a strict 1v1 too: Ulm fought Marverni, Helheim fought Sauro, and Ermor fought Therados. The latter nation was the successful one.
>>149720504
Mind blasters say hi. 0 Gold every turn baby.
>>149720581
You have blood, slightly above Sauro tier. Your flail infantry are 6 atk/square and only 4 enc, making them one of the best recruitable units (after revelers, and alongside deep one spearman). Also, summod adds Magma Children to Abysia as well.

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>>149700187
Heres a screenshot I have no idea.

>>149720897
There's an underground route you can take to strike at the Batman, which involves going to the offworld place first. Very janky. Also a throne in the way.

>>149721357
https://github.com/sum1won/summod/blob/master/summod/barbarian%20B%201.tga

>>149721357
hol' up

I might have a solution

>>149721185
Have you checked if you somehow don't have read access to the file?

>>149721827
Not even sure how Id do that.

>>149721670
yeah, no, that's not the problem. It's a typo in the mod -

#spr1 "./summod/barbarian 1.tga"
#spr2 "summod/barbarian 2.tga"

See the difference?

>>149722001
The easiest way would be to run the game as administrator/super user and see if you get the same error.

>>149722048
Actually, no, this shouldn't be causing his issue.

>>149721327
>Your flail infantry are 6 atk/square and only 4 enc, making them one of the best recruitable units (after revelers, and alongside deep one spearman).
Flails don't do particularly good damage. 16 blunt damage (20 with a strength buff) is not very impressive. Plus the price per Abysian is very high compared to other units.

They're decent, but I'd rank them a lot worse than third-best recruitable unit.

>>149722048
both should mean the same thing if I'm not mistaken.

./ means current directory.

>>149720581
Holy shit do you want me to cup your balls while I gargle? I get that's it's a big strategy change but would you really rather deal with bats later? I'm taking my gold elsewhere

>>149722698
Give me an example of something better, sacreds not counting. I already used Revelers and Deep One Spearman as well.

And EA only, cause I'd put Chuds, and likely some other crap, well above them too.

So as you all know I'll be wanting all the caves and none of you(a few nations aside) will really have a chance of holding them if I attack. However I do not desire war with the whole of the surface world and thus will purchase any neighboring cave provinces for 2.5 turns worth of their income. Sounds good?

>>149722141
running as administrator causes the same error.

>>149725431
You should let Abysia swing left to attack Bats before taking the caves. Especially considering Xibalba is the one nation that, with these settings, can spank you right out of the caves if he wanted to.

>tfw you spend 2 hours scripting your armies

I hate lategame.

>>149725431
>Hey, let's just let Agartha become Super Agartha
>Like what happened last time
>Who won last time, again?

Ima fight you.

>>149727724
I didn't become super Agartha by taking the caves though, I barely bothered with those at all.

I conquered Asia baby. All of Asia. +7 troops OP.

>>149723143
Just from EA? Well, there's not quite as large a selection but here's a few I found.

Steel Maidens, Falcioneers, Jaguar Warriors, Guhyaka.

>sacreds not counting
If they're not cap-only, why shouldn't they count?

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>>149714905
>>149714998
Did you script shit or did you not?

Because you didn't stale this turn.

>>149728836
Have you not *seen* these settings. Under normal circumstances, yeah, sure. But under 300% shit (but not holy points), they take a huge hit.

Falchioneers are cold blooded, and take a huge hit imo. I totally forgot about Steel Maidens though, which I agree fully on.
Guhyaka don't much matter anymore anyway: RIP Kailasa, free food for the Lanka.

PC just shat itself, need an AI or sub plox

>>149719070
online

Where's everyone from?
Canada here.

>>149730358
>Have you not *seen* these settings. Under normal circumstances, yeah, sure.
I thought we were talking about normal circumstances.

I've got no idea how 300% settings tends to play. I would have thought it'd be more mage-heavy than normal games, rather than people spamming large numbers of troops.

>Falchioneers are cold blooded, and take a huge hit imo.
Cold blooded sucks, but they're better in a lot of other ways. Slashing damage rather than bludgeoning, higher damage, a defense score which isn't complete shit, MM2, and much cheaper.

They suffer from a lack of native mages to buff them, but Abysia's troops have the same problem.

>>149732645
3rd world.

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Dear Yomi, while I agree that a ceasefire makes sense, especially for you considering how bad burds are kicking your ass. I'm not going to let up, because last time I sat by this shit happened. RIP SansMemes burds, you were too good for all of us.

>>149732902
It is more mage heavy, but having solid troops is also a huge boon. For falchioneers vs the flail guys though:

16 vs 17 damage (falchion wins, slash besides)
10(12) vs 11 atk (close to even here, flail better vs shields, falchion otherwise wins)
But the flail guys have less enc (by 2) more HP (by 4), more prot (by 3), along with darkvision 50% and massive fire resistance for firestorm, along with a heat aura. They do cost 20 vs 13, and 26 res vs 19 though, but I'd still rather have them.

>>149733369
Are those Dai Oni thugs going ham?

>>149733551
Yup, they straight thugging on these streets.

>>149733369
Continuing war from you ain't so bad. From what I hear Arco is pushing you from the south. So you and Caelum have your vast armies arrayed against me while your borders are weak elsewhere and someone stretches from far left of the map to middle right.

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>>149719698
Thx bae. We gon kill bats.

>>149733834
That stack with the 4 Dai Oni's is pretty scary don't get me wrong, but you're down to 8 provinces. Hoping on someone to distract us before we wipe you out isn't exactly a solid plan.

>>149734510
Its more by you both fighting me I've tied you both down from stopping bigger powers from winning. I'll die for sure but so will you guys at this current rate.

>>149733418
>But the flail guys have less enc (by 2)
I guess that's a summod change, since I'm seeing both at 6.

4 vs 6 isn't a big deal on expendable melee units, they'll be dead by the time it gets anywhere near critical anyway.

>more HP (by 4)
Per gold the falcioneers have more hp.

>more prot (by 3), and massive fire resistance for firestorm, along with a heat aura.
None of those are going to matter once lategame buffs are out (which is what I figured you were talking about since you mentioned revelers and deep ones - neither are top-tier troops without buffs).

Protection in particular is more than balanced out by their 4 defense skill, unless summod has also improved that.

>along with darkvision 50%
Yeah, I suppose that'd do it. Effectively having +3 att/def is a pretty big buff, though darkness can be countered.

I'm cooking

I'm almost done cooking.

I just ate a sammich.

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>>149746401

Thread demands Memes!

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Thread's dead, baby.

Thread's dead.

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Reminder that I proposed a united Africa

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>>149749795
And Arco what are your intentions on the sea/mediterranean? If you really want (132) that doesn't really crimp my plans. Depending on whether or not Machaka doubles down on this invasion I might be busy in Africa for a while.

>>149734883

I'm not really actively fighting you actually. I mean your initial push had me on the ropes I must say, but now that I've pushed you back to status quo I've been concentrating on getting my research and gem production into overdrive.

Also, I've scouted the map and Agartha is the least of our worries. Hinnom and Ermor are fucking massive, probably because they had the whole southern half of the map all to themselves while the rest of us have all been cramped up up here.

>>149749795
>>149749928
Why do you have so many spearmen?

>>149752434
They support the elephants

>>149752471
Right, but you need relatively few to do that. You've got 48, which means you actually chose to buy them.

>>149752552
I like their little javelins

>>149749795

Why do our neighbors have to be such shitters? I wanted a united America, you wanted a united Africa, but no, our neighbors just wouldn't have it no matter what...

>>149752848
awwww poor little flappy bat.


>>149749795
awww. poor little Bery, he just asked all his neighbours to gift him a couple of provinces from their capcircle and they didn't want to give him shit for free. how unfair!

>>149730326
I checked the new turn in my friend's house, then sent mine 2 days after that from a different computer.
It seems like when he sent his turn, he ws using my key for some reason and i got that "orders not executed" thing.

Okay, Arco's weird errors appear to be unresolved, so I guess we'll go ahead with the sub? Sorry Arco. From what I've seen, all of the stuff I'd have tried for resolving this has already been suggested.

>>149719804
If there's someone willing to sub in, I'd definitely prefer that to a turn two AI.

>>149753695
I think it's worth having at least one other person take a look at the turn before subbing them, since then we'll see if it's a mod problem or a local one

>>149753873

True, that. Arco, could you send your .trn to, uh. Sum1, I guess? His mod that's causing it, so he's likely the best shot.

Would do it myself but I dunno what your email is, so that'd be functionally the same as subbing you out anyway.

I'm cooked.

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>page 10

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>spend an hour scripting
>lose horribly

>>149759074
What game?

>>149759074
Post battle screenshots

>>149759240
Eh no point. In came down to relying on Solar brilliance against Umbrals. High MR + life drain meant it literally did nothing

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>>149759962
battle screens are fun anyway though. I wish people posted more of them.

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>>149760342
Sometimes you have to appreciate the little things in life

>>149762626
>win defense roll
>teleports behind elephant
>hit him twice with daggers
>one crit and one exploding dice
>elephant commander fails more roll
>assassin wins

totally possible.

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>>149762775

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how much fun should i have as a noob if i joined a multplayer?

>>149763430
Plenty, as long as you don't take losing as horribly unfun. The basic premise of having about a dozen players means only 1/12th will win, enjoy the fighting for that's what the game is about.

>>149763430
Lots. You go from scrub to average /domg/ skill pretty quickly. The game really shines once you're at the point where you understand it enough to start throwing together original ideas to fight people.

>>149763430
About zro, I guess, who knows what's turns you on.
I doubt that being beaten like a rug will contibute to your enjoyment of the game. Moreover noobs usually failing the games, since they are an easy prey, so average player can win the game just by bulling scrubs.
Play at least 6 month in single player, get a graspon the game, and then have fun in MP.

>>149765127
>>149763430
6 months in single player? Are you autistic? Is that how you started playing this game? What sane fucking person spends 6 months playing a single player game vs AI when the multiplayer version is totally different?

This game is really not as complex as this guy is trying to make it seem, and since games go on for so long you have plenty of time to learn as you play. You'll lose, but the point is to have fun, so just go in with the right mentality and you'll be fine.

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>>149765310
>not knowing about 6 months meme

>>149765127

>Single player experience
>Contributing to gitting gud

Fair enough, practice expansion until you can get twelve+ provinces and a fort under construction by Early Spring of year 2, but that's about the extent it can help.

>>149765310
I have played in SP 5 years t the very least. In both dom3 and dom4. And only then I kinda tired and start MP.
The most enjoyable part of this game is lore and learning about different nations. You can easily be consumed by it for 6-12 months. That is how I love this game. And the scrubs who just jumps straight in MP are capable only to ruin the game.
I don't care where will you learn about the game, but DON'T FUCKING DO IT in the MP-game I am in.

>>149765127
>6 months of singleplayer

fuck off, i don't agree with you.Single player becomes worthless and boring 2 games past the tutorial.

>>149763430
play few single player games then join a multiplayer play by email game as a nation you like.
ask here for advice on pretender creation.Test your expansion phase multiple times in single player.
There is plenty of fun to be had and as soon as you start losing you will join another game.

I won my first multiplayer games because i love to practice /domg/ favourite sport: bullying and rushing other noob or weak players. You can do that too.But even when i lost early no biggie. it's still fun.

The first war should come at turn 15 or later, which means you have 2 weeks to learn how the hell you are supposed to win your first multiplayer war as a certain nation. The only thing you need to know before joining the game is how to expand with the nation and how to create a not terrible god for it.

>>149765692
>Single player becomes worthless and boring 2 games past the tutorial.
A scrub at it's finest.
You are not autistic enough to like this game. Fuck off and play something like Dota2 on your way back.

>>149765382
A new player wanting advice is not the right time for memes.

>>149765762
>i like clearing the awesome 400 militia stacks that impossible AI keeps shitting out after failing to expand.

what about no?
my nation is never given the chance to shine or do anything against AI, because it's all worthless.

>>149766204
have you tried not playing riley?

>>149766251
i tried playing all sorts of nations against hard and impossible AI, with AInoREC enabled, and it never felt good in any possible way.

>>149764684
average /domg/ skill = scrub level desu

>>149753695
Just sub me in gonna be at work for 10 hours

>>149766409
I was really surprised at how little time it took to become competitive with the rest of /domg/ after starting multiplayer.

>>149754147
Send me sum1s email and I'll send him the turn all the same

>>149766454
>>149767238

Dunno his email off the top of my head, but he usually lurks in thread, so he should be able to supply you appropriate contact details when he shows up.

But alright, will get you subbed out.

Anyone like to step in? If so just drop a suitable email in thread and I'll get you swapped in. Would handle this over steam, but I'm at work at the moment and shouldn't really be in thread.

Have there been any natgen games lately? I remember the Scrubgen ones were a blast.

How's the population of this thread? Haven't been here in a long while, are we still having regular PBEMs?

>>149768604
Of course we do. Why would we make these threads otherwise?

>>149768604

Yep! Wanna sub in for MA Arco? It's turn 2 but he's having weird mod errors. No stales.

Just came back after a long absence myself.

AGARTHA YOU CUNT YOU BETTER NOT STALE AGAIN.

>>149769602
Maybe it's Rejakor. He died or something and staled in 3+ games or so.

>>149768604
47 IPs. That isn't too bad. There are at least half a dozen /domg/ games going right now I think.

>>149769602
why would he not stale?

he has nothing to input into his game, he is just waiting for his units to break the fort so he could reconquer his cap, everything should already be scripted from the last battle.

>>149769865

WHAT IF HE BREAKS THE WALLS AND HE DOESNT KNOW?

>>149769795
The general can go up to 80+ IPs which is on the level with typical /vg/ threads.

>>149769865
How about not being a dickwad and making people wait the entire time when he can just open it up, hit end, and upload it?

>>149770116

uh i don't know. i guess many people would be a dick in his position and there are still 3 players that have to upload their turn within 3 hours, so it's not like he's actually wasting anyone time.It was just an hypothesis.

>>149769959
you can still open your turn and check even if you stale.

>>149765762
Huh, I played about 1-2 games vs the AI before hopping into multiplayer, and I suppose a few joking scrims with a more experience player (where he guided me along as part of the same disciple team vs AIs, or against each other alongside a bunch of other AIs - who only wanted to attack him btw).

I'm still struggling to maintain a 50% winrate, so I guess I'm not that gud though.

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>>149770303
>you can still open your turn and check even if you stale.

Why not take an extra 5 seconds to submit the turn then?

>>149771597
>50 % winrate
>not at least decent.

Right. The turn's hosting in like four hours. If I don't have a sub by then I'm just gonna have to get Arco set AI. If you want it, speak now or forever hold your peace.

I can hop on Steam in a couple hours once I get back from work to take an email addy, if you're not keen on posting it in thread I just use a burner, myself, but is fair enough. Either way, lemmie know now so I can plan accordingly.

>>149774312
i guess i could sub.

>>149774952

Cool. I'll be home in maybe two and a half hours and hit the steamgroup chat to get your email addy off you and the turn resent.

If I made a mod that removed the cap-only tags from all units except sacred troops since that would just turn the whole thing into blessrush: the game, would this cause any serious balance issues (as in, more serious than the balance issues in the regular game)? And if I started a game using that mod, would you join it?

I always hate playing nations where all the good mages are cap-only, so using a mod like that would be quite interesting to me. The only real problem I see right away is that it gives different nations a different boost. Heavily cap-dependent nations would become significantly stronger, while nations that already have great mages outside of their cap wouldn't really change.

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DO TURNS RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>149776649
many many nations are overhelmingly held back by cap-only mages, so it would be really balance-changing, especially for games bigger than 4-5 players, where StR cap-only struggle more.Tienchi EA would be a great nation for example.

but i don't think it would actually *break* things, especially if you build it ontop of summod which nerfs xibalba ( which ha a caponly onaqui in EA).

i would suggest to mod only commanders and not units at all.

>>149776649
There is no such thing as a cap only tag.

>>149777641
>hurr
I know the actual tag is that they require a specific site to be recruited which spawns in your capital, but simply calling it cap-only is much simpler.

>>149776649
Maybe implement that change for Sirrushes then they might see use

>>149778512
>wanting to spend even more gold for a unit that no one wants.

thanks no.
even with crazy bless i would not recruit them in a relevant quantity.

HOT GLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>149771597
I have played 5 years in SP and 1,5+ years in MP, and my winrate is 57% (PBEM only, though).
So suck it, Sy, but you are probably better then me in overall, though.

>>149776924
Ok this is probably a stupid question, but how do you remove a tag from an existing entry? Is there a specific command or do you just have to recreate it without the tag?

>>149779137

There's no unit modding involved. You need to add the unit ID to the nation's recruitable list and remove it from the cap-site's recruitable list.

>>149778865
That wasn't me.

>>149779137
>#clearsites
>Clears all start sites for this nation.
>#clear
>Clears the attributes of the selected magic site.

>>149779385
>remove it from the cap-site's recruitable list
That's what I mean. Is there any way to just remove only the recruitment thing, or do I just need to clear the whole thing and manually add back the stuff that isn't related to recruitment (like gems), like what >>149779423 suggests.

Man, it would be really bad if someone dispelled thetis' blessing whilst TC and Caelum both have huge armies sitting in underwater provinces.
Just a thought.
:^)

>>149779527

Generally for modifying existing assets you do need to clear them completely and recreate the bits you don't want to change. There are a few exceptions to this (mostly cases where you're modifying an attribute that has only one per thing-you-mod), but for recruitment it's definitely gonna be a matter of clear and readd gem gen.

>>149779527
can't you just add the units to the normally recruitable in cap stuff to the nation and leave sites alone?

>>149779850
All right, I guess I'll do that then.

>>149779867
Wouldn't that put the unit on your recruitment list twice?

It wouldn't be a big issue, but it looks sloppy.

>>149780028
I just tested it and it looks like there aren't any duplicates.

That makes things a lot easier.

>>149771597
>50% winrate

In a game where the average match is 10+ players and only 1 person can win, 50% is good. Quit with the false modesty, it just makes you look like a prat.

50% winrate is massive, you stupid fucks need to understand it's not a 1v1 game.

If you win a game, it means you won against 10+ people, if you lose a game it means you lost against 1. Basically if every PBEM has an average of 10 players, the equivalent of 50% winrate for Dom4 is 10%.

>>149781874
>>149782081
50% is still well above average, but 10% includes the staling trash

>>149771597
>I'm still struggling to maintain a 50% winrate,
It's bullshit and you know it.

List your games played/won.

>>149782315
Sorry, but it will deanon me.

>>149782473
More like uncover your bullshit.

Carry on, faggot.

>>149782568
Don't force me, you'll become blind in awe.

>>149782909
Just die already, Rejakor. Your staling is unbearable.

>>149782909
If you're games are already in the spreadsheet, then you can't have played very many.

>>149783007
Rejakor has a fairly low winrate because he actually has played a lot of games. I'd consider him much better than someone that won 2/3 newb games

>>149783138
Better at staling maybe.

>>149762775
psh, nothing personnel kid.

>>149782315
Won 4 so far, probably gonna win 4 more pretty soon.
Only lost 3 so far, but 2 more losses are pretty much inevitable. I'd have gone AI if I didn't have a moral obligation to be as obnoxious as possible to the guy who fucker me over.

>>149782909
$5 It's nick.

>>149752848
I didn't choose the meme life. The meme life chose me.

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Does Lychantropos Amulet, force the commander to go berserk as soon as he enter combat?

I think I fucked up, I put it on one of my wraith lord thugs.

>>149774952

Right. I'm home. Hop on /v/anheim and I'll get you subbed in.

>>149784230
You done fucked up.

>>149784230

They're permanent-berserk, yes.

>>149784143

If you wanted to meme, you should've taken 4 blesses and allied up with me to make everyone's life living hell. You chose the path of mediocrity, you and your dragon with growth and order scales.

Is there any /domg/ PBEM open right now?

>>149785268
ForAFistfulOfDeathgems needs a replacement for Arcoscephale, he hasn't staled but can't do turn 2 because of an error with summod.

>>149784230

Hey, look on the bright side, now you have an ethereal werewolf.

>>149786750
That's not how it works anon

Reminder that memegiants and china abandoned the game and now we'll have to wait for their asses every day.

>>149786750
Yeah, he's doing well and got Lightning reflexes as heroic ability. Still it would be nice if he could cast a few spells.

>>149785268
>>149785769
Nevermind, just got a new turn so either the problem is solved or there's already someone subbing in for Arco.

>>149787087
Well this game is off to a wonderful start.
>takes up a slot to spam for a shitty imageboard
>gets laughed at
>stales
I am disappoint

What's the deal with China?

>>149784230
If the wraithlord dies in your dominion, he should lose the item.

>>149787783
Strategic suicide

>>149787860
Is there a problem it doesn't solve?

>>149787712
Well he did mention he was invited to the game by someone from here.

Could be his partner in crime.

Fomoria are you online? Can we talk in the steam chat?

>>149787931
He was invited here to die to elves, it was a prank bro.

>>149787929
I'll let you know when I find one it doesn't

Given the memesettings, giants would actually be able to build a sizable number of their sacreds whereas usually they'd get only a few per turn. Elves have no built in frost resistance, so the giants should be able to beat even vanhere in a brawl if he can actually catch them.

Who would be up for Scrubgen III or whatever number we're on now?

>>149789761
I'd be up for another cataclysm game, actually.

>>149790171
scrubgen > scrubaclysm

>>149789761
I'm always up for fucking around in Nationgen.

>>149790171
>>149791090
>>149791180
Well I'll try to get one going tomorrow morning then (it's 20:00 here now). Going to vet the nations a bit so we don't get another Scrubgen 1 with the Fomorian giants.
Any mods? I took a pretty long break after doing Scrubgen 1 and 2, back then it was just Worthy Heroes as a must, with /domg/mod as a popular optional (both of which should be mostly useless with natgen anyway).

If someone else has time to vet nations and wants to host it before tomorrow, feel free. Also what number would Scrubgen be at by now anyway? Last I saw was a Scrubgen 3.

>>149791830
Summod has lots of non-national changes, and due to nationgen now having national spells from vanilla randomly chosen for nations it will help in that regard as well.

Last Natgen was a flop, with most players still playing now out of bitter hatred for each other and the game in general.

Would you be open to people generating their own nations, and givng you codes?

>>149791830
Worthy Heroes is pointless with Natgen since it only uses non-standard heroes anyway.

You should probably add Summod though. The nation changes don't matter, but the spell changes are cool and somewhat make up for the lack of national spells in Natgen games..

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>>149791830
>Going to vet the nations a bit so we don't get another Scrubgen 1 with the Fomorian giants.

Oh! I think that was me, actually. I recall I owned like half the map and then spent 20+ turns summoning shitloads of things which then all died to a Seraph trap casting Unravelling. Killed an elemental royalty with 21 MR as well.

Fun game. I'm always up for fucking around with natgen.

>>149792447
>most players still playing now out of bitter hatred for each other and the game in general.
That's every late game in a nutshell (except for ones where the players were playing out of affection for each other and meming about their losses)

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I had a lot of fun in Scrubgen II as well.

>>149792551
Yeah, I wanna try new tarrasque

>>149792447
>>149792551
Summod it is. I'll determine the map once the game is open and I see how many players will be in it.

>Last Natgen was a flop, with most players still playing now out of bitter hatred for each other and the game in general.

Why was it such a disaster? Just wondering so I don't make that mistake too. Bad nation batch?

>Would you be open to people generating their own nations, and givng you codes?

Normally I'd lean towards a no since it kinda takes away the random factor of it as players can just gen over and over until they get more or less exactly what they want, and I'd gen a pretty large batch anyway so there would be 30-40 nations (there is some limit past which it crashes the game, or at least used to, but I don't remember exactly how much). However, if the majority want it, I don't see why not.

>>149792890
I was your southern neighbor who made the mistake of not rushing you early on. I had very strong troops but I waited too long and your giants got all those juicy spells. Well that and the assholes could sail, which was really annoying as I was mostly coastal.

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>>149793246
>Elves
>Birds
>Communions
>Magic Boost: 5

>>149793296
I believe 50 is the upper limit.

>>149793296
Don't let people generate their own nations, that would be dumb

>>149793689
It would be neat if players had an opportunity to write fluff for their nation if they wanted to, though.

>>149793910
Wasn't there someone who was going to do a game like that a while back?

>>149793910

I know that's how some of the early ones were done.

>>149794037
It died due to the natgen update.

>>149793296

The nations need to be better curated than they were. No way some human swordsmen with deathpower compete with doublewielding plate minotaurs with reanimation.

>>149793910
>10 years to start up because serial stalers must have the perfect backstory but at the same time won't work on it

As long as people are quick about it don't see why not.

Yeah, I'm not at all down with people generating their own. Someone tried doing that on dom3mods and nerds spent literally weeks brewing up the perfect nations and it looked really dumb

>>149793689
>>149793910
>>149794078
>>149794465
Well seems most don't want it so it won't be in. Writing your own fluff would be fine though, don't see why not.

>>149794148
It's amazing Scrubgen 1 and 2 worked relatively well (rather, most had something broken to fight the opponent's broken stuff) considering I barely even vetted them properly. Sadly there is always a chance of something going wrong, there is no real way to consider all the variables for 20+ nations unless someone got a lot of time on his hands. At the same time, you don't want to just squash everything so there are no outstanding gens and everything is bland.

>>149794220
Sure, you can have a deadline for sending the mod modified with fluff, if you don't then the original will be used.

>>149795004
How does selection work? Are we just going to get basic descriptions and then the generation codes after we select or something else?

>>149795242
The easiest way is simply uploading the mod so players can load it in the inspector.

>>149795242
He chooses a bunch of nations and posts the mod. Everyone downloads the mod, flips through all the nations, and submits pretenders for the nations they want. It's generally been first-come, first-served, but if anyone spots something egregious about any of the nations they might be removed.

Also I assume everyone wants MA as usual, correct?


>>149795242
I'll gen and slightly modify batches until I get one that is both interesting and not completely broken, then upload it somewhere (vola probably), so everyone can download them and try the nations for themselves or do whatever they want with them, and also make the pretender.

>>149795532
We could do EA for more sites and indy mages, but I'm ambivalent

>>149795875
I'll start doing the genning tomorrow anyway since I don't have time tonight, I'll default to MA since it's usually the most played one but if people want EA or LA I'll gen that.

>>149796241
Can we suggest codes?

TheNewCool is over. Meme games should always end in a meme, like this one did.

This game started up with Agartha, Abysia, R'lyeh, Jomon, Marignon, Patala, Bogarus, Ragha and Man.
I came here at around turn 15-20, can't really remember.
When I arrived, both Agartha and Jomon were big and powerful. And then they started fighting.

After some defeats that I couldn't se, Jomon left the game, making me able to eat his underwater provinces.
Ragha was eating Man, as I remember, and Patala was objctively doing nothing.

Then, I talked to some of the remaining nations to know what did they think about the current state of the world.
Abysia and Ragha were the only ones who actually answered me, while Patala and Bogarus didn't.

Ragha agreed on attacking Agartha, and even if Abysia didn't really want to, he agreed that he was the biggest one.

Ragha was the second power at that moment, so Abysia and me ended up deciding that we were going to wait for Agartha and Ragha to clash before going into the battle.


Marignon got attacked by Ragha, and there was nothing he could do to fight back.
So he got eaten.

Then Agartha came closer to him, and even if I can't really remember it all perfectly, Agartha stomped a big non-mage-supported Zhayedans stack with a real fog warriors + Army of gold army (Can't remember which turn was this, but probably somewhere between 40 and 60).

While this happened, Patala (who was most likely sending blank turns) went AI and started attacking me and then Abysia. We killed him and I got his cap.

Before going on, I should mention that this game didn't have thrones, the VP were the caps and we needed 5 to win.

So while we fought AI Patala, Agartha got rid of every meaningful army of Ragha and captured Marignon. Then Ragha retreated back to his two capitals.

After that, Agartha got Bogarus too, which made him have 4 VPs.

>>149796781
Abysia and me were a bit scared, but for some reason I thought Ragha could defend his forts or at least hold on for a little, while R'lyeh and Patala weren't accessible at all for Agartha (Patala was in a peninsula close to my capital).

While that happened, I got into high Astral magic, and casted mother oak and stellar focus, and Nexus some time after that (can't remember exactly when).
Then empowered my astral caster to be able to cast wish and started wishing for gems. Also started constructing and gearing golems.
I think Abysia had Blood Vortex and pyre so we had all the global slots and were confident on ourselves.
Also Abyia was going full late game demon mode.


So we were basically doing nothing other than waiting and gathering power.

Then Agartha suddenly moved into Man with a really big stack, for sure big enough to breach it in one turn. I wasn't really focusing on their Land business, so I didn't expect that. Abysia didn't expect it too. He was using Flying boat and lots of flying boots on his mages.

So there was this guy about to storm and get his last VP to win, while neither Abysia or me had any troops close there.

Abysia and me talked to each other, both of us scared that he was going to end the game.

Honestly I wasn't sure about if I should really fight Agartha or just let him win, but after doing literally nothing all game long, I felt like I had to try (I totally came to regret this a lot of turns after that).

So I teleported all of my astral mages, my 3 queens of elemental air, and 4 faerie queen.
Together with 11 full geared golems and a Starspawn with enough boosters to cast Army of gold.

It was a really big and impressive battle while I destroyed all of his stuff but a single commander and an eagle, then my remaining mages retreated and my golems dissolved into dust. I lost all of my queens and golems in there, and Agartha lost a lot of unique artifacts and important mages.

>>149796894
I knew I could recover from it via wishing for gems and waiting, but it was going to be harder for him.

But the main problem was that Abysia literally walked in with a not-so-big army with no real army buffs and killed the last mage and eagle in there.

So Agartha and me lost LOTS of stuff while Abysia lost nothing, pushing Abysia to the lead position of the game.


Abysia managed to Domkill and eat Ragha while I was recovering. I got my queens back plus earth kings and water queens. Then I think i got a Fire king aswell.

While i was doing that, Abysia ate a lot of Agartha's lands and then casted AC.

It was really annoying for me and I asked him why was he making me attack him. He told me he just wanted to try something and was going to end AC soon. I couldn't believe it at all, and was a bit mad for not being able to wish anymore.

Some turns after that, Abysia teleported Ashmedai into a Agartha's province and suicided him, getting rid of AC. It was pretty hilarious.

Agartha lost his last big army and retreated to Jomon and Agartha to fortify.

Abysia ate almost everything and templed it up, while also building a lot of forts.
And this is when he started domkilling the world.

I think then he casted Blood vortex again, overcasting it even more. And then casted looming hell. I lost Arcane focus and he lost his own pyre in there.

>>149797031
Abysia was really powerful and had a big stack with about 350 storm demons and 250 devils, leaded by 3 units ( a helliophagus, Pazuzu and Geryon).
I told Agartha my plan to get rid of it, and we tried it.
We got the only province next to it which was Abysia's, I wished for Pazuzu and spammed mindhunt, while Agartha spammed Earth attacks.
My testing revealed that Geryon couldnt be killed by earth attack, but the helliophagus could be killed by it.
Mind hunt managed to kill Geryon, and the helliophagus died to erf elementals. Then a scout attacked and 600 demons retreated into oblivion.


After losing that many demons, Abysia was again able to be fought by me.

I started moving from every side to take Abysia's 3 VPs (I had 2 at that point, so those 3 were enough to win).
I had 3 big armies, all of them mage-supported with mass regen + army of gold + fog warriors + will of fates, but they were basically chaff plus some mages.

Then AC came up again.


Man was the closest cap. Using my wished telkhines to mage-support even further.
I really expected a fight in there, so I geared 3 starspawns to cast Master Enslave at turn 1 with 4 penetration.

But nothing happened, he just let me capture it doing nothing to protect it.

At this point I think AC went down again, and Wrath of the god came in. It was so annoying, since aroun 500 of my units were being hit per turn, and around 150 being killed. It was really fucking me up because my prophets were at 5 hp since almost all of my provincs had Abysia's dominion, and Wrath killed them easily.

I managed to get to Ragha, where I lost a SC wearing Aegis and felt so depressed.
I was about to be domkilled, and talked to Agartha a lot of times about how I would have let him win if I knew I was going to get that much cancer.


In militar power I was the strongest by far, but Abysia kept on avoiding fights (even if I had to script them for more than 40 minutes every fucking turn).

>>149797168
But who cares about power when you are about to get killed via dominion? It felt really really annoying and unfun.
Abysia didn't want to end the game, so I had to keep on playing.

I managed to successfully storm Man and the same turn I did, AC got casted AGAIN.
I needed Abysia but was about to perish, so I teleported all of my mages everywhere into Abysia's cap. Most of them with water bottles to be more likely to survive horrors.

I also Astral travelled and Stygian pathed into there.
The first turn I did, I met a EQ trap of 3 casters, and killed them losing near to no units. Will of fates on turn 0 is so fucking great.

The literal turn after that, AC went down AGAIN (I was told that Abysia teleported his caster and lost it in there).

So the first turn I appeared in Abysia, I managed to siege it down a little, but while losing 150 units a turn and some mages (lost my will of fates sword Squid even if he had 26hp), I was unable to siege it down anymore after that.
Also Abysia was very likely summoning stuff inside of it.

I had 3-4 turns left to die and couldn't nail it, it was over.


Then Agartha told both of us that he was going to demolish all of his forts one by one to get rid of the stall the game was suffering.
Then both Abysia and me prepared to fight in Marignon. I had to forge 3 Arcane lens to be able to get my stuff Astral traveled into there.
The last turn it was the turn to teleport everything, with Marignon already nude.


I teleported into there mages able to cast every single buff plus enough lamias and chaff to kill anything.
He teleported some stuff too and lots of blood slaves. But I got it down.


From the moment the invaders arrived, breathed our air, ate and drank, they were doomed. They were undone, destroyed, after all of man's weapons and devices had failed, by the tiniest creatures that God in his wisdom put upon this earth: seven Pen5 Master friendship casters.

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>fagmin didn't extend at all

you asked for 6 hours, you got 6 hours. if you needed more should have asked me

>>149797303
I'm sorry but for reasons I can't post the graphs.
Could someone do it for me? I can send you the trn of the turn.

>>149797978
I'm pretty sure I asked for 24 hours at least. It was in the previous thread and it sems like you did see.
Anyway it's mostly my fault, but you didn't help much.

>>149797978
He's probably just salty because he's losing to Lemuria, disregard that.

>>149798385
This.
In spain we call this EL BUTTO HURTO.

>>149798360
>Can't post the graphs
Put it in windowed mode, open snipping tools, and then select the area you want.

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<Casts summon der gutter admin>

>>149798360
I actually only saw the steam message you sent me at 4am EST, hence the stall in VD. Bad timing for everyone all around. Leave the EU

recipe for a better nationgen game:

-bake the mod yourself and upload it, everyone look at it and picks a nation, first come first serve.
-the chance of people quitting is pretty high. having a steam thread with names on and having subs ready would be a plus, but only people realizing that they can have fun even without winning can save the game from becoming an AIfest.
-create 3x nations than players
-there is no need for maximum broken sacreds
-tell everyone that during the first 2 days you might ban a nation if everyone thinks it's broken. i had terminator-like encumbrance 0 sacreds with 18 protection,35 hp, 5 of each res once.
-surprisingly not everyone wants to play as hoburgs
-no matter at least one person will still quit when they discover their sacred bone giant cavalry is actually shit. deal with it.
-good comunication and diplomacy is how players can handle strong nations.

>>149799758
>-good comunication and diplomacy is how players can handle strong nations.
They say this about Ermor too

>>149799758
That's pretty good, nothing to add, just admin please read that.

>>149799758
add one more to the list
-don't get so lazy about making the game and generating it that a new release invalidates it all

Extending for finding a sub for ULM, as he's in a good position and the recent AI of Bogarus for our harmony and contentment makes me leery of making a good positioned nation AI.

>>149799876
ermor can't easily be shut down because they produce units when their cap is sieged and have 100 death gems to spend from their earliest turns and you are going to lose if you can't make supply items turn 9 when you also need evocation 3.

as far as i know nationgen doesn't make nations with more than 6 gems in capital, interesting summons, domkill, a lot of freespawn.

Is the in-game tutorial worth going through?

How do I get my friend into this? He recieved my copy through Steam earlier and he's eager to play so we're going to do some multiplayer tomorrow.

So; Best way for him to learn? Just walk him through the basics while we play, and refer to the manual at times? Should I have him pick one of the beginner factions? And which *Age is best to start in for a newcomer? Hell, I'm new-ish too but I have some faint grasp on the game atleast.

>>149800625

I have generally found setting up a blitz against AIs with you and a buddy as a Pretender/Disciple is useful for teaching basics.

After that you can move on to duels or whatever, but the pretender/disciple thing lets you look at what they're up to without you having to stand over their shoulder.

>>149800625
Do a disciple game, something fairly basic with him as MA Ulm and disciple, pick a nation with generally scales as the pretender, let him make whatever as his mini-pretender.

However if there's a nation he actively wants to play, go for that in general

>>149800527
i'd say yes.

the alternative is picking an easy nation like Abysia or pangea and play it against normal AI, reading the manual when you want to understand how stuff work.
the manual is enormous but most of it is detailed stat of every unit, you just need to know about how combat, forts, gold and turn order work

>>149800625
If he likes videos then show him a let's play from youtube or wherever.

Fomoria will let him do the most stuff with one nation (Elves! Giants! Cloud trapeze! Thugs! Super-fighters! Battle-field killing spells! Evocation spam! Elemental spam! Sailing! Under-da-sea combat!) and it also relies on relatively few different paths to do all of that.

>>149800895
>>149800908
>>149800994

Alright, thanks. How much of a chore is it to play via direct connect? We'll be playing for a little while so we won't do e-mails.

>>149802020
Not much, it's fairly simple, just have a look at setting it up once before you try it whilst he's there

>>149802020
real easy, you can either port forward or use a program like hamachi/evolve/etc.

>>149801476
I don't think that's a good approach at teaching new people how to play. Isn't it better to start with a nation who can only do a couple of things so he can learn those properly first?

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>>149802771
Does gameranger work?

>>149803272
No idea, probably.

>>149803012
Not really. Fomoria doesn't require any specific pretender to do all of that, so any time he wants to try those things out he just kinda can.

>>149803367
Just checked their supported list, apparently only Dominions 1 and 2 are supported.

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For whichever of you was talking about The Great Ordeal a few threads back (I was on vacation and only saw the post and didn't feel like typing a long ass reply on my phone), here's my opinion:

Obviously, do not continue reading if you haven't read TGO or at the very least the excerpts Bakker released earlier.


1. The Momemn arc and it's semi-resolution(?) was terrible, but I admit that I hate pretty much all of the Momemn-involved characters. The way that the White-Luck Warrior was stopped was absolutely lame as fuck, and the way that Kellhus just literally *teleports behind you*, pssshhh nothin personnel kid to Fanayal and crew was also pretty fucking lame. Overall this makes me very worried about how things are going to end, but I will at least give Bakker the benefit of the doubt since we still have another book.
2. The Ishterebinth chapters were rad as fuck, and far and away the best part of the book. They actually succeeded in taking a character that I previously hated (Sorweel) and making him one of my favorite characters.
3. The Akka/Mim chapters were great, and I was surprised that the seemingly-obvious story (they find the Heron Spear in Ishual) was something Bakker didn't go for. I was disappointed that we didn't get more from Koringhus, but maybe the Dunyain kid (Kellhus' grandson) will have a big role to play. The Cnaiur reveal was pretty mind-blowing to me.
4. The Dagliash resolution was pretty cool, and leaves a ton of possibilities open about what's going to happen to the Ordeal. The return of Kellhus PoV together with confirmation that the Consult are 100% right about damnation was pretty awesome. Also, the revelation that Kellhus does in fact have visions where the No-God seemingly talks to him (recall the vision he had while on the Circumfix way back in TWP) and the visions are what told him to kill his father was pretty interesting.

Overall I was pretty happy with it, and I'm now mega hyped for The Unholy Consult.

"The world is covered by a blanket of utter darkness. All living beings must use torches to see even a few feet in front of themselves. Undead, Demons and blind beings are unaffected by the darkness. All provinces except caves and deep seas have their income and resources reduced by 90 percent. During the perpetual night, forces of darkness and roaming shades will attack enemy provinces. The spell lasts until someone dispels it or the caster dies."

How is this balanced?

Also what's the spell that causes people to age super fast?

>>149805086

>How is this balanced?

It's Alt 9, nigger.

>Also what's the spell that causes people to age super fast?

Burden of Time, buddy.

>>149805086
it's "balanced" by making yourself the target that must be taken down, while also suffering from its drawbacks.

also everyone should have recruited and built enough stuff by that time and desertation will come slowly, gradually.

gem economy is the more important than gold at that point and also you have to spend a lot of gems into that global and perhaps even a god design ( or even more gems for artifact boosters).

>>149805086
>How is this balanced?
Because it's very hard to put up, and requires very good planning to prevent other people from bringing it down quickly.

It's supposed to end games if you use it right.

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>>149805086
>he doesn't know

Also it's balanced by the fact that you put a very big "Kick Me" sign on your ass.

>>149805817

Honestly, only four of those can be considered game winners. And maybe six or seven are drop-everything-and-kill-that-guy tier. Celestial Rainbow, Torgin, Wrath of God and Eyes of God are entirely possible to completely ignore with minimal world impact.

>>149800953
How long would you estimate it takes for someone to get accustomed to the game?

>>149806978
>Celestial Rainbow
It's a free dome on every province in your dominion that stacks with additional domes that you might have on key provinces and guaranteed gold events. It won't end the game on it's own but it's pretty fucking fantastic.

>>149799758
>-bake the mod yourself and upload it, everyone look at it and picks a nation, first come first serve.
>-the chance of people quitting is pretty high. having a steam thread with names on and having subs ready would be a plus, but only people realizing that they can have fun even without winning can save the game from becoming an AIfest.
>-create 3x nations than players
>-there is no need for maximum broken sacreds

Already doing this. As for the names, there will be a Steam group thread where people can reserve it, I'll also update the thread with all the already reserved nations so people can reserve them here too if they don't like Steam. If someone doesn't reserve it, he can still drop in his pretender but there is no guarantee he gets it until the pretender has been sent and received.

>-there is no need for maximum broken sacreds
>-surprisingly not everyone wants to play as hoburgs
>-no matter at least one person will still quit when they discover their sacred bone giant cavalry is actually shit. deal with it.
>-good comunication and diplomacy is how players can handle strong nations.

Not sure on the sacred slider, wasn't there last time I made a Scrubgen, but I'm gonna guess it should stay at default, yes?


>-tell everyone that during the first 2 days you might ban a nation if everyone thinks it's broken. i had terminator-like encumbrance 0 sacreds with 18 protection,35 hp, 5 of each res once.

This won't happen unless it's an extreme case. I'll vet them so no super OP shit should get through (hopefully), some nations will be stronger and some weaker but there shouldn't be any nations recruiting the equivalent of Seraphs in their forts. Also it would always be preferable if the player simply gets ganged up on, since we all get the mod, everyone can check what their neighbors are like.

>>149805817
>Not Gift of "the Mustard Tastes Better" Nature's Bounty
It literally doubles your gold income. For most nations, that's better than any gen gem by far

>>149792447
I'll have you know that I subbed into that game only because of my bitter hatred of it. I have only grown to dislike the game more as time goes on. The only joy I find is the alternating 30 feathers and 30 lightless lanterns I send to Gyth every turn, like some sort of twisted hacky-sack game we play with each other while we slowly bleed each other dry. 10/10, would smite my own pretender if it wasn't immortal.

>>149807293

Oh it's not BAD TO HAVE, sure, but it's not a game changer in the way Nexus or Utterdark or Corruption are. Those can (and have) completely turned the tide of games.

>>149808039
Yeah, fair. I don't think anyone would contest that those three are the strongest by far.

>>149808458

Fairly sure Gift of Health is top three and can win games alone.

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>>149805817

>no mention of vengeful waters

cmon now

>>149808458

Honestly, the main problem with Rainbow is Evo9. By the time you can cast it, the global list is already gonna be full, and while it's nice, it's not nice enough to throw hundreds of gems of overcast at to make sure it sticks.

>>149808881
What the fuck is that picture?

>>149808795
I'd say it's more situational, similar to Vengeful Waters. You need to have good dompush and the kind of troop and mage lineup that can take good advantage out of increased health, but if you do, it can be used to great effect.

>>149778865
>Having a lower winrate than malakal

>>149808795

In combination with Tarts, sure. Otherwise it's just a great buff for defending your dominion. You really can't guarantee an offensive war is gonna take place in friendly dom.

>>149808881
it used to be mandatory, but the nerf makes it highly situational now

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>>149808881

>post image
>image is one i've never seen before and is nowhere on my computer

>>149809596

VW was nerfed?

>>149810741

Somewhere in the Sims general, someone is very confused about what this water elemental crap is about.

>>149810893
used to always be big size elementals, but a few months back it got nerfed so size of the elemental was dependent on dominion and being on land/sea/terrain type/etc. Now it's a great defensive tool but no longer a spell that basically lets you domkill and assassin kill the world

>>149810741
That's the old image switch issue.

Your image is probably in the Sims general or something.

>>149811147
sadly not
>>149808882

>>149811147
>>149811085
Nope, I just checked, they got the same image.

How bizarre.

>>149811409
>>149811402
Try uploading it again. I've seen it mess around with 3 images sometimes.

>>149811104
It's % chance based on dominion, size based on province type

>>149805817

since when was wild hunt good? it always seemed pretty trash to me.

>>149814267
It is. It can kill some mage priests and whatever, but it has relatively few attacks each turn

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didn't expect that

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>>149814491

>>149814491
Please explain how this happeninged. Also, please explain why someone brings an awake fountain

>>149816794
if I Had to guess this Dryad had bezerker equipment on her so she never runs from a fight and literally bowed down the blood fountain. if the fountain was just a B9 then it really has no way to fight back if he didn't keep slaves on it

>>149817026
It would cast leeching touch and kill the dryad. I know this because I have had this scenario occur before.

I enjoy Der_Götterdämmerung so far. It's interesting.

By the way how far have the bat's spread?

>>149816794
>awake fountain
What? It was imprisoned.

>Please explain how this happeninged
Fountain had nothing useful to cast, swarm bugs slowly brought it down with AN attacks.

>>149817286
I haven't got any useful spells researched for it, all my research so far has gone into stuff for my national mages to cast. If I had leeching touch it'd have won, I think.

>>149817286
>Blood 3
Doubt Marv has that yet

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>>149814491
I did expect that, and was hoping it wouldn't happen before I managed to get blood 3.

At least I won a fight.

>>149818834
Serious question - how did Pan fuck that up? That looks like an easy win for them

>>149819038
I'd assume that was storming, so unbuffered revelers being held at the gate too long.

>>149819938
>unbuffered
Yeah, see, that's the thing. There's no way he doesn't have enough mages to buff them and then also provide other support.

>>149820110
If he hadn't fucked up he would have won, that's just my assumptions as to how he fucked up.

>>149819038
Yeah, he literally has more Marverni mages than Marverni does

>>149819038
No buffs on his revelers, aside from army of giants.

I had 25 PD so my forces were a bit larger than the battle result shows (81 more troops if I count right), and lots of my troops had ranged weapons, either javelins or slings.

While the revelers were busy killing the boars my troops got a few rounds to throw their ranged weapons. That did a lot of damage, and was apparently enough to let my troops barely pull off a win once the revelers finished with the boars.

I'm quite surprised at the result too.

>>149819938
Nope, field battle.

Revelers kill the shit out of my troops even without buffs, sadly.

>todger finally got banned
now what?

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This month on "who's cap is it anway" we have the monkey masters of the south, Lanka!

>>149769865
Cause his units sieging his cap are dead. The bird people have come and broken both of our armies. I'm actually calling for a coalition against the bird people who I believe will soon have 3 caps under their birdy belt.